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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I was thinking, as we were talking about paganism,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a game, the college game, many many years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>six degrees of separate separation, or six degrees of Kevin Bacon,

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<v Speaker 2>where you would you would sit there and you would

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<v Speaker 2>name a person, and you try and see how many

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<v Speaker 2>times you could get, you know, or name a person

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<v Speaker 2>if you could get within six tries or six movies

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<v Speaker 2>back to Kevin Bacon. So you'd name an actor and

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<v Speaker 2>you'd say Tom Cruise, Well, Tom Cruise was in this

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<v Speaker 2>with so and so, and that was and then so

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<v Speaker 2>and so was in this with so and so, and ultimately,

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<v Speaker 2>within six tries you'd get back mathematically to a movie

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<v Speaker 2>that Kevin Bacon was in. Well, it's almost six degrees

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<v Speaker 2>of paganism, because no matter where you go or what

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<v Speaker 2>direction you run in, you can be brought back to

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<v Speaker 2>paganism even in the things you're comfortable with. As we're

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<v Speaker 2>limited on time, we can only talk so much, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>during during phone calls and stuff like that. But as

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking and the mention of Christmas and goes, well,

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<v Speaker 2>that's Christmas, and they celebrated and the wise men. Unfortunately

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<v Speaker 2>we had to go to a break. But you think

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<v Speaker 2>about the concept of the wise men. The wise men

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<v Speaker 2>were the magi, they were pagan astrologers, and yet people

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<v Speaker 2>have those on cards and everything like that, and during

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<v Speaker 2>the holidays and even see shirts saying wise men still

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<v Speaker 2>follow him today with a picture of me on it,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, either on the cross or something like that,

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<v Speaker 2>and things like this. You'd be surprised how much it

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<v Speaker 2>is it has infiltrated, not on its own, but willingly

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<v Speaker 2>buy different groups or leaders like Constantine and the like

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<v Speaker 2>that had shaved off as much of it as they

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<v Speaker 2>could and then applied the others so that there was

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<v Speaker 2>comfort level in its growth. As a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 2>Christianity can be argued by historians at least I might

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<v Speaker 2>have a different thought, but that a lot of that

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<v Speaker 2>is what propelled Christianity, you know, Rome, Constantine changing Rome

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<v Speaker 2>and their national religion and belief system. At first, it

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<v Speaker 2>was opening it up to all beliefs, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>more of a okay, listen, you're not going to be

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<v Speaker 2>persecuted for being Christian anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the first thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And then slowly he started opening that up and then

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<v Speaker 2>he started saying, well, no, paganism's a problem, and we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to start not just allowing everything, but now putting

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<v Speaker 2>paganism down. And through the process of the years and

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<v Speaker 2>so on, came to a point where he says, now

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<v Speaker 2>Christianity's mandatory.

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<v Speaker 1>In ways, and then you've.

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<v Speaker 2>Got people going okay, well then I'm just gonna take

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<v Speaker 2>this with me, or this with me, or this with me.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that always work?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely not. Are there systems that are polluted and perverted

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<v Speaker 2>because they've brought things into Christianity. Absolutely, But that's where

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<v Speaker 2>discernment comes from. And my purpose for bringing these things

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<v Speaker 2>up and pointing them out is even the word holy

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<v Speaker 2>day has been muted to holiday, and there are things

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<v Speaker 2>like blessings and the term holy itself that really date

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<v Speaker 2>very far back, pre dating Christianity. And if you start

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<v Speaker 2>just throwing the baby out with the bathwater, you have problems.

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<v Speaker 2>The bath water is dirty, the baby is clean, and

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<v Speaker 2>you need to look around and see how these things

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<v Speaker 2>are interacting in your life. If they are neutral or

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<v Speaker 2>can be neutralized, then that's fine. If they're infiltrated by

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<v Speaker 2>way of someone with an agenda or something or these

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<v Speaker 2>types of things, then yes, you are to defend yourself

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<v Speaker 2>and your faith against those kinds of interruptions. But many

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<v Speaker 2>of these things from thousands of years of filtering have

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<v Speaker 2>become benign. You know, the practices that these things once

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<v Speaker 2>held have nothing to do with it. A child is

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<v Speaker 2>not running around in a costume of their favorite superhero

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<v Speaker 2>thinking that they are warding off demons and spirits and

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<v Speaker 2>ghosts as they dance around a bonfire. It's simply them

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<v Speaker 2>trying to get candy and dressing up. When it says

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<v Speaker 2>in scripture that you are created in the image of God,

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<v Speaker 2>some argue that that is that you have intellect, will,

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<v Speaker 2>and emotion. Others would say that your very creativity and

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<v Speaker 2>the desire to be creative or create and to build

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<v Speaker 2>devil himself, who wishes to to destroy. So when you

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<v Speaker 2>find children having a desire to create or be creative,

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<v Speaker 2>it is something that should be encouraged. Others will look

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<v Speaker 2>at Halloween and the concept of death in Mayhem and say, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 2>it deals with the death or death or skeletons. And

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<v Speaker 2>I've always appreciated the look of our brothers and sisters

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<v Speaker 2>that have cultures rooted in in Mexico and their understanding

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<v Speaker 2>or they're at peace with the concept of death, and

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<v Speaker 2>they celebrate the Day of the Dead, not as something

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<v Speaker 2>that worships the dead, but as something it's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like All Saints Day, where it's a time to look

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<v Speaker 2>back on those from your family that have passed on

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<v Speaker 2>and to celebrate their life. But it's done with imageries,

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<v Speaker 2>the imagery of skulls, and you know, people get confused,

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<v Speaker 2>what is this about? Is it's it looks dark and sinister,

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<v Speaker 2>and really it's not. It's about life. Even the place

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<v Speaker 2>where I died, Golgatha, is the place of the skull.

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<v Speaker 2>Christians are taught not to fear he who can kill

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<v Speaker 2>the flesh, but he who can kill the spirit, or both,

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<v Speaker 2>and so the concept of combating the fear of death

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<v Speaker 2>is a scriptural one. Though I walk through the valley

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<v Speaker 2>of the shadow of death, I show fear no evil,

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<v Speaker 2>and that kind of attitude can be healthy and productive. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>as an adult, you need to have discernment in all

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<v Speaker 2>things and apply it to your life and the life

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<v Speaker 2>of your children absolutely and find where that line is

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<v Speaker 2>for you and how you would want to practice something

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<v Speaker 2>like this. But I will tell you that when you

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<v Speaker 2>when you kind of sequester a child from something that's

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<v Speaker 2>going on in the world and it's not explained properly,

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<v Speaker 2>or it's just well that has demonic roots, a kid

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't even know what a pagan is or any of

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<v Speaker 2>those things, then you end up cutting off much more

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<v Speaker 2>than you think you are because environmentalism. Yes, on one side,

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<v Speaker 2>world that God has given. But on the other side,

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<v Speaker 2>early pagans were worshiping and taking care of the world.

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<v Speaker 2>So is it about taking care of the world that's

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<v Speaker 2>good or bad? Or is it about why you're taking

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<v Speaker 2>care of the world and to who that glory goes?

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<v Speaker 2>These are the things that I think are lost in

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<v Speaker 2>these battles of well, it's just bad or it's just good.

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<v Speaker 2>God is just good. And there are a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>Christian liberty and a lot of battling that went on

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<v Speaker 2>in the Church of Corinth, And oh, should I eat

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<v Speaker 2>this if it was given to idols or sacrifice to idols?

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<v Speaker 2>Should I do this? And in many cases it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>eat what you want. If it glorifies God, you're fine.

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<v Speaker 2>And then on some cases, if there's somebody who's going

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<v Speaker 2>to stumble by the very fact that you're doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't want to cause the lesser minded, as Scripture says,

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<v Speaker 2>or those that know less, to fall, but you also

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<v Speaker 2>want to educate them. In educating them, then they won't

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<v Speaker 2>stumble on the smaller stones. They'll see the bigger picture.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's my only hope here. It's not to champion

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<v Speaker 2>a particular holiday or to tear another holiday down. It's

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<v Speaker 2>to be reasonable, partially because if when you're reasonable, others

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<v Speaker 2>will see you're reasonable, and they'll believe what you say

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<v Speaker 2>about your faith and about God if they're non believers,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're unreasonable.

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<v Speaker 1>They will reject what you.

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<v Speaker 2>Say and what you do and your belief God. Rebecca,

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, I was wondering if you're tell me what your

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts are on the way man seems to be destroying

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<v Speaker 1>the earth and the skies and the oceans. Well, make

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<v Speaker 1>no mistake about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it gets politicized and it seems wrongly so

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<v Speaker 2>that to become a political issue. And I know that

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<v Speaker 2>there's different pundits from different sides going, oh, well, you

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<v Speaker 2>know such and such wants this, or so and so

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<v Speaker 2>wants that. But Scripture is very clear. Scripture talks about

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<v Speaker 2>the importance and the beauty of creation and how humans

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<v Speaker 2>have stewartship over it. And the term stewartship is very

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<v Speaker 2>specific in the sense that you're there to take care

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<v Speaker 2>of it. And so does that mean that you should

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<v Speaker 2>cease doing anything that deals with production or anything. No,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not about that. But taking care of the earth

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<v Speaker 2>is part of the commission of God throughout the entirety

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<v Speaker 2>of Scripture, and the balance there you have to understand

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<v Speaker 2>as to how to do that in a way to

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<v Speaker 2>leave the smallest print and damage on the earth as

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<v Speaker 2>you exist on it, so that others can exist on

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<v Speaker 2>it as well. And both sides politicize it in a

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<v Speaker 2>way that I think is vulgar and upsetting. One group

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<v Speaker 2>plays the heartstrings and manipulate science to get their point

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<v Speaker 2>and the other does the same thing in the other direction.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you.

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<v Speaker 2>Scrape all the politics off it, God says you should

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<v Speaker 2>take care of the animals. That doesn't mean that you

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<v Speaker 2>can't eat them. Strangely enough, so likewise, God says to

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<v Speaker 2>be a good steward or take care of the planet.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't mean that you can't use its resources, but

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<v Speaker 2>you have to be reasonable in doing those things. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think the Bible is very clear in that, Rebecca,

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<v Speaker 2>And there's a balance there. A lot of the pollution

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<v Speaker 2>that comes from greed and people wanting to make something

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<v Speaker 2>cheaper and faster and all this stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a problem.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a problem, But in a capitalistic society, the United

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<v Speaker 2>States is governed by the Constitution, not by the Bible.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think the individual Christian should be governed governed

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<v Speaker 2>by a scripture. And know that as an individual, if

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<v Speaker 2>they own companies or if they go out and use products,

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<v Speaker 2>that they should be aware of how these products are,

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<v Speaker 2>the things they're doing affect the world around them, and

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<v Speaker 2>if it may lay harm to someone else, and these

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<v Speaker 2>types of things. You've got to keep it all in balance.

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<v Speaker 2>And unfortunately politics doesn't bring much balance. So steer away

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<v Speaker 2>from the political talk about it and just know that

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<v Speaker 2>you've got to be sensible. You're not going to throw

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<v Speaker 2>trash or garbage on the ground, don't put it into

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<v Speaker 2>the air, don't put it into the water. James, Welcome

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<v Speaker 2>to the Jesus Christ Show. Yes, Hi, James, I'm well, sir, quickly,

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<v Speaker 2>we only have it a moment a moment or so here, okay, help, Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just wondering, why should we, you know, promote

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<v Speaker 3>those evil holidays and give it a bad example to

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<v Speaker 3>the kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, I think that's a legitimate question. What would

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<v Speaker 2>you say about the Halloween holiday, which really is a

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<v Speaker 2>derivative of a Christian holiday, All Saints Day, and not

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily sow in the Celtic festival which preceded them, But

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<v Speaker 2>it is more mutation of All Saints Day and All

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<v Speaker 2>Hallows Eve, which came from the Christians. So what part

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<v Speaker 2>of Halloween do you find to be evil?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's in the night, and everybody studies who whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,

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<v Speaker 3>whoa whoa.

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<v Speaker 1>Why would why would be in the night? Why would

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<v Speaker 1>something be in the night be evil?

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<v Speaker 3>Because that's when evil people celebrate, you know, So.

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<v Speaker 2>If you not necessarily, there were many pagan rituals that

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<v Speaker 2>were in the morning. So if you go to church

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<v Speaker 2>at night, that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Evil, no necessary okay, So anything you do at night.

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<v Speaker 3>Is evil, not necessarily.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So why is it evil in this case?

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<v Speaker 3>Because of all this evil masks and.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so what would be an evil mask?

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<v Speaker 3>yourself all these evil masks they're weorrying, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, are there not some non evil masks?

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<v Speaker 3>Very few?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, but there are some few. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're saying if they wear an evil mask and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe go out at dusk before it gets too dark,

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<v Speaker 3>No, but the whole point is that pretty much we're following,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, taking holidays.

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<v Speaker 2>No, actually, it's not anymore. That's that's the true point,

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<v Speaker 2>is that it's not anymore. And if anything, if you

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<v Speaker 2>could imagine an old, decayed building that was used as

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<v Speaker 2>a as a you know, selling crack or something James,

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<v Speaker 2>that has been repainted and refixed up to be something

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<v Speaker 2>that is more productive and better, then that should be honored.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not about what it used to be, it's about

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<v Speaker 2>what it can become. And that that really is on

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<v Speaker 2>the shoulders of the Christian parent to direct their children

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<v Speaker 2>in a proper way. But really saying because that night

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<v Speaker 2>is silly or because they're evil masks, you can change

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<v Speaker 2>the evil mask things, and certainly not everything at night

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<v Speaker 2>is evil. Dennis, Welcome to Jesus Christ show. Hi Dennis,

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<v Speaker 2>how can I help you?

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<v Speaker 4>I'll just listen to them other two callers there about

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<v Speaker 4>Halloween there, Yes, sir, I wouldn't think that anybody would

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<v Speaker 4>really think of it as being evil unless they worship

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<v Speaker 4>it as evil. I look at it as fictional and

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<v Speaker 4>fictional characters just like anything else, and fun for the kids.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, unless you worship them and them evil, if

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<v Speaker 4>they think they're evil, the mask and whatever that would

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<v Speaker 4>like say, ghost in goblins. I don't believe in ghost

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<v Speaker 4>and goblins and whiches and stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>Like that anyway.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, no, he worshiped them and put them before God.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just a holiday for the kids.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that is well said.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's a lot of people that see it

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<v Speaker 2>for something that it's not, or that it was once,

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<v Speaker 2>But it doesn't involve those things. And truly it lands

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<v Speaker 2>on the parents to make the decision in the life

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<v Speaker 1>But be careful.

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<v Speaker 2>There are things we say on the program often that

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<v Speaker 2>there are wounds you bandage and wounds you amputate so

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't pervert the rest of the body. And there

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<v Speaker 2>are some things you want to cut from your life

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<v Speaker 2>possibly and say, well, we don't want this, we don't

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<v Speaker 2>want that. But there's also things that you can rebrand

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<v Speaker 2>or structure in a way that are fun and healthy

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<v Speaker 2>and it can have a good time. And I speak

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<v Speaker 2>to many many Christians, and inevitably you ask them and

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<v Speaker 2>they say, well, I just don't want to do them

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<v Speaker 2>in a child, And I say, well, were you brought up

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<v Speaker 2>in a Christian household? Yes, but my parents let us

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<v Speaker 2>celebrate it. And how long have you been worshiping the devil? Now,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not necessarily the way the path goes. And you

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<v Speaker 2>want to protect your children to the best of your ability,

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<v Speaker 2>but also keep in mind that if you're oversensitive on

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<v Speaker 2>things that are benign or neutral, or that you can

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<v Speaker 2>you can put an understanding of Christianity on it, then

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes it confuses and causes great rebellion. And that's not

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<v Speaker 2>to say to be lukewarm and wishy washy without bringing

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<v Speaker 1>It's not my point.

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<v Speaker 2>The point is that makes sure that the things that

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<v Speaker 2>a good case for it, and that it's understood across

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<v Speaker 2>the board. Otherwise, truly, as they get older, and start

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<v Speaker 2>doing their own research search and seeing that there's all

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<v Speaker 2>kinds of things in your home that have pagan origin

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<v Speaker 2>and customs and things like that. Then and then I'll

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<v Speaker 2>start turning it back on you, and of course that'll

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<v Speaker 2>be a problem. Paul, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello.

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<v Speaker 5>I live in rural West Virginia, and my neighbors down

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<v Speaker 5>the down the road for me are kind of like

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<v Speaker 5>my second family. And it's a married couple with two

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<v Speaker 5>dispautiful young girls eight and ten. And the wife laughed,

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<v Speaker 5>I guess about six or seven weeks ago, and I've

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<v Speaker 5>kind of been his third ear and you know, his support.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm spending a lot of time down there now.

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<v Speaker 5>And the other day there there are two dogs killed

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<v Speaker 5>one of their cats, and and and and my friend

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<v Speaker 5>and his girls are just just getting devastated. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I said, man, evil is just coming in

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<v Speaker 5>and ripping his family apart. And and I offered, give

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<v Speaker 5>me your gun and I'll put the two dogs down. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I wouldn't do it in front of his girls,

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<v Speaker 5>but you know I would put the dogs down because

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, they're they just destroyed something that they loved

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<v Speaker 5>and on top of that, they lost their mom. And

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<v Speaker 5>I was wondering, if you give me any words of

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<v Speaker 5>encouragement that I could share with these people and bring

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<v Speaker 5>up back into their heart.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'll tell you won't do it causing more destruction.

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<v Speaker 5>Will not.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know that when you see people in pain,

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<v Speaker 2>that the desire, Paul is is to defend them in

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<v Speaker 2>that sense. And this is not the type of pain

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<v Speaker 2>that you can defend. This is the type of pain

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<v Speaker 2>that you work through. Proverbs twelve twenty five says anxiety

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<v Speaker 2>in a man's heart weighs it down, but an encouraging

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<v Speaker 2>word makes it glad. And that doesn't mean going out

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<v Speaker 2>and killing things or destroying you know, God's creatures is

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<v Speaker 2>going to bring beauty just because there was pain that

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<v Speaker 2>was brought by them and the dogs didn't know they

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<v Speaker 2>were bringing pain on anyone. And in this particular case,

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<v Speaker 2>what these people need is time to express themselves, time

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<v Speaker 2>to feel their pain, and somebody who cares. And you

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<v Speaker 2>seem to be that person. You seem to be someone

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<v Speaker 2>who genuinely loves I can hear it in your voice

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<v Speaker 2>and cares for them, and right now they need that

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<v Speaker 2>somebody just to love them and be with them. Bring

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<v Speaker 2>beauty not destruction. Make a meal, share a meal, spend time.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen above all, listen and let them speak. Because people

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<v Speaker 2>run from people who've gone through tragedy.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't run.

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. Hi, Hi, Charlie.

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<v Speaker 2>How can I help you?

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<v Speaker 6>I I just had a question about, like, how do

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<v Speaker 6>I give glory to God in the like everyday simple

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<v Speaker 6>things in life, like going to a movie with friends

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<v Speaker 6>or mowing the grass or everything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, well, there's it really comes down to.

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<v Speaker 2>If you hear a child talk about their parents and

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<v Speaker 2>you ask that child what you know, would you give

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<v Speaker 2>your life for your parent? They'd say yes. But you

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<v Speaker 2>asked that same child if they'll mow the lawn or

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<v Speaker 2>do the dishes, and they'll go, ah, I don't want to.

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<v Speaker 2>And Christians do this sometimes too. It's like you would

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<v Speaker 2>lay down your life for your God if necessary, but

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<v Speaker 2>you won't live your life for God. And that means

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<v Speaker 2>every little boring thing your parents don't want to be

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<v Speaker 2>you to be at their foot every ten seconds going Gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>you're the greatest parents in the whole white world.

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<v Speaker 1>I love you.

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<v Speaker 2>They want you expressing that in the things that you do,

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<v Speaker 2>And God wants the same thing. Yes, God wants you

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<v Speaker 2>to worship him. God wants you in church. God wants

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<v Speaker 2>you to pray. God wants you to do all those

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<v Speaker 2>things that have become religious in nature.

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<v Speaker 1>But truly, God wants you to.

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<v Speaker 2>Live a life that is filled every single day with creativity,

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<v Speaker 2>with exploration, with curiosity. And for instance, it says in

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<v Speaker 2>Scripture to pray without ceasing, and truly it's it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>mean NonStop like a mantra.

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<v Speaker 1>It means kind of like an incessant cough.

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<v Speaker 2>It means always be in that state of knowing that

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<v Speaker 2>God is there and that you're thinking about God. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's kind of what you do with everything. And if

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<v Speaker 2>you partake in something Charlie where you feel like how

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<v Speaker 2>can I bring God into this and it doesn't quite work,

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<v Speaker 2>then maybe that's something that you want to not do

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yes, I had a question about like what about

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<v Speaker 7>like going to see like scary movies, Like to me,

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<v Speaker 7>but like, is it not giving glory to God?

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<v Speaker 6>Like if I were to go see like a scary movie.

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<v Speaker 2>There are many scary parts to scripture, and I know

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<v Speaker 2>that movies picked.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, angels and demons as.

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<v Speaker 2>Particular types of creatures, but if you saw a good angel,

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<v Speaker 2>it would creep you out at first. The concept it's

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<v Speaker 2>not the single pair of wings. Some angels have multiple

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<v Speaker 2>pairs of wings on their feet, on their shoulders, on

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<v Speaker 2>their backs, and there are things that would be quite frightening.

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<v Speaker 2>As a matter of fact, there are times in scripture

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<v Speaker 2>where people were frightened of good angels or godly experiences.

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<v Speaker 2>If you put scripture on camera and on film in

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<v Speaker 2>a very articulate and legitimate way, there would be horrible

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<v Speaker 2>sex scenes, there would be horrible scenes of violence, there

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<v Speaker 2>would be scary things, there would be exciting things. So

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<v Speaker 2>really it's not about those things. In general. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>whole psychology that surrounds the concept of fear and why

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<v Speaker 2>people like to be afraid and get scared when that's

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<v Speaker 2>why they go on roller coasters. A scary movie, within reason,

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<v Speaker 2>is no different than going on a roller coaster. Or

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<v Speaker 2>experiencing something else that would give you a thrill, But

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<v Speaker 2>it's the context of what's being done. And the divider

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<v Speaker 2>really is if something's prescribing you to do something bad,

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<v Speaker 2>then you're not a part of it. But if something

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<v Speaker 2>is describing something bad, then that's just a description of

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<v Speaker 2>things that are taking place, or something that is causing

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<v Speaker 2>you to think about the way the world works, or

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<v Speaker 2>things like that. So different people go see them for

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<v Speaker 2>different reasons. Some people see them because they're movie buffs.

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<v Speaker 2>Then they're fascinated by the concept of special effects or

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<v Speaker 2>the storyline, or they like the thrill of not knowing

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<v Speaker 2>what's coming next. But you could say that about a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of things that, you know, some people would think

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<v Speaker 2>are benign. You know, some people think of Stephen King

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<v Speaker 2>novels okay, but Freddy Krueger movie is not, or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and go back and forth in these concepts. Having said that, Charlie,

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<v Speaker 2>there are some things that really focus and are done

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<v Speaker 2>And in that case, I would use great discernment as

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<v Speaker 2>where that line is for you, Because like many things,

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<v Speaker 2>for everyone. Don't murder, don't steal, these types of things,

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<v Speaker 2>and then there are ones that are specifically for you.

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<v Speaker 2>For the alcoholic, they can't drink period. That becomes a

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<v Speaker 2>new commandment in their life, because any drinking becomes a sin,

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<v Speaker 2>whereas someone who's having wine with dinner or something, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not necessarily a sin. So with you, you may have a

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<v Speaker 2>tolerance for certain films because you like the genre, whereas

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<v Speaker 2>for someone else it could be a problem because of

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<v Speaker 2>tendencies in their life or things that excite them in

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<v Speaker 2>a way that shouldn't, or things like that. And you

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<v Speaker 2>have to just be honest with yourself as to why

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<v Speaker 2>why you explore those things or why you're curious about them.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you a horror fan?

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<v Speaker 7>Buff I am? I.

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<v Speaker 6>I just I like to watch them with my friends

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<v Speaker 6>and we like to laugh at some of the scenes,

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<v Speaker 6>and it's just it's just kind of amusing, and it's

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<v Speaker 6>not I don't ever really get scared by them. But

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<v Speaker 6>I have a friend who thinks that it's it's glorifying satan,

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<v Speaker 6>and I just don't know if that's.

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<v Speaker 3>True or not.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, some may be, and that's that's a decision you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have to make as you look at them. There

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<v Speaker 2>have been some. Now I don't think they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>throw you into the arms of the devil if you're

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<v Speaker 2>a Christian and that is that is your faith, and

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<v Speaker 2>on the contrary, it may make you run closer to God.

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<v Speaker 2>But these things are our judgment calls on your own

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<v Speaker 2>to say all things that deal with violence or ugliness

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<v Speaker 2>or different spirituality are bad would really put you know,

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<v Speaker 2>everything aside.

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<v Speaker 1>Think about the.

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<v Speaker 2>Christian police officer who is in crime scene investigations that

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<v Speaker 2>ask to come on actual scenes of these things every

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<v Speaker 2>day or see even ritualistic killings or things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that mean that.

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<v Speaker 2>They would cut that out of their job and say

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<v Speaker 2>I can't go on those. It depends what the purpose

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<v Speaker 2>of these things are and as to where they are

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<v Speaker 2>and if you're using them for good and how you're

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<v Speaker 2>applying them. If you think that it's something that's become

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<v Speaker 2>to you know, it's kind of a rite of passage.

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<v Speaker 1>Passage for men.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of them see these things and kind of

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of gallows humor and laugh fit the things

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<v Speaker 2>that are. They're nut sends to build a thick skin

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<v Speaker 2>and to establish yourself into manhood and things like that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of the part of the warrior process.

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<v Speaker 1>And that can be fine.

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<v Speaker 2>If it becomes an infatuation or something, you know that

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<v Speaker 2>you're the that you're getting just totally caught up into macabre,

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<v Speaker 2>then you've got to check yourself a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Fair enough. Yeah, you're very welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't mean that every single thing that deals with

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<v Speaker 2>the macab or oh my gosh, I'm throwing out all

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<v Speaker 2>my Tim Burton stuff, or any of these things. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just it's not fair to the concept of of different

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<v Speaker 2>types of literature and art and filmmaking. There is many

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<v Speaker 2>types of art, paintings or otherwise that could be considered

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<v Speaker 2>macob that are quite brilliant and wonderful and insightful. And

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<v Speaker 2>that goes for movies as well. But you have to

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<v Speaker 2>use the discernment. If it starts to be come a thing,

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<v Speaker 2>then maybe you should check it, check yourself every once

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<v Speaker 2>in a while and be introspective about it, pray on

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<v Speaker 2>it and think that way, Ah, discernment. Isn't it just

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<v Speaker 2>easier to just say no to everything one of my

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<v Speaker 2>pet peeves, if you will, is the concept of zero tolerance.

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<v Speaker 2>You see this a lot in schools, so that a

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<v Speaker 2>child that brings an aspirin to school is considered as

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<v Speaker 2>big of a problem as someone who brings illicit drugs marijuana, whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>it might be, cocaine, but they're all drugs. Even though

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<v Speaker 2>it's aspirin, everyone gets expelled. So that kind of concept

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<v Speaker 2>of all or nothing, that it really points to laziness

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<v Speaker 2>than it does anything else. And if if you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to be lazy in your faith and not use discernment,

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<v Speaker 2>then why did God put you here and give you

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<v Speaker 2>the tools like scripture and prayer and say things like

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<v Speaker 2>there is wisdom in a multitude of council so the

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<v Speaker 2>people around you to get insight if you're just supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to go, okay, not doing this ever? Are there not

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<v Speaker 2>doing this ever?

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<v Speaker 1>Type things?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure there are. But even the Ten commandments you talk

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<v Speaker 2>about thou shalt not murder, thou shalt not kill, because

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<v Speaker 2>if you're in law enforcement or military or things like that,

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<v Speaker 2>that could become an issue. And you know, not bear

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<v Speaker 2>false witness. However, if you're a Christian in nineteen forties

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<v Speaker 2>Germany and the Naziss comes to your door and asks

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<v Speaker 2>if there's Jews in your floorboard.

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<v Speaker 1>Being hidden? You say no.

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<v Speaker 2>So the the context is very important and the purpose

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<v Speaker 2>in which you do things, and that has to be

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<v Speaker 2>part of your decision making. If you just throw out

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<v Speaker 2>all your skills of decision making, that just becomes spiritually.

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<v Speaker 1>Lazy.

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<v Speaker 2>You're just looking for a reason not to have to

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<v Speaker 2>practice your faith, not to have to apply your understanding

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<v Speaker 2>and scripture. Well, you know what, if I don't just

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<v Speaker 2>cut it out now, I have to read scripture and

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<v Speaker 2>really understand things and know whether this is right or

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<v Speaker 2>wrong in this context, and it just takes too much effort.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just going to say no.

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<v Speaker 2>And that kind of spiritual laziness is permeating the church

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<v Speaker 2>in a way that the concept of being a sheep

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<v Speaker 2>becomes the negative or the pejorative of being a sheep

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<v Speaker 2>and just stupid and doing whatever. Whoever in front of

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<v Speaker 2>you says, that's not the purpose. The concept of sheeps

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<v Speaker 2>in scripture is to show the purity and the kindness

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<v Speaker 2>and the simplicity of following your Master. But doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 2>you do that in everything you do at church, and

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<v Speaker 2>all of those things and I want you to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to think through things and use that brain in

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<v Speaker 2>the top of your body.

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<v Speaker 1>KFI AM six forty on demand
