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Speaker 1: This is pet Life Radio. Let's talk pets. Welcome to

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animal rights on pet Life Radio. I'm so glad you're

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joining us. This is the host Tim Wink, of course,

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and we got the wonderful doctor Kevin Lynch coming on

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the show. Kevin has written the lace book Off the Leash,

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tells from a lifetime of healing pets and wonder So

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we're going to talk to doctor Lynch a little bit

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about the book and some of the stories, and obviously

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fifty years of practice in venarian medicine and care, so

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we're gore talking about that, and then of course we'll

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pick a brain about writing the book. How superduper easy

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it was to go through fifty years of stories and

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pick a handful of.

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Speaker 2: Them for us to read.

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Speaker 1: So I'm sure it was really easy to do. Sarcasm

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attached of course, unintended. That's it.

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Speaker 3: Thank you too for having me on. It's wonderful to

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be with you, and I'm looking forward to the adventure absolutely.

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we'll talk a little bit more with or more detail

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with doctor Kevin Lynch for the book Off the Leash.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Animal Rights on pet Life Radio. Joining

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me now is a veterinarian superstar fifty years plus and

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obviously the author of the latest book Off the Leash,

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Tells from a lifetime of healing pets in Wonder, Chris.

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We're talking to doctor Kevin Lynch. Doctor Lynch, welcome the show.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Tim, Thank you for having me. Not so

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much as superstar, maybe one of the lesser saints. But

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I'm not too sure about that that I go, look

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fifty years, you know, you get some mantle of sophistication.

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Speaker 1: I guess absolutely. I mean, that's a big kudos to you,

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thanks for helping out so many different animals and taking

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care of all of our beautiful creatures. Privilege. So the book.

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So I'm sure you just had an epiphany one day saying, hey,

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I need to take fifty years of lifetime and veterinarian

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here and write a few stories down. The book's called

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Off the Leash. Tell us a little bit about the

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book and how it came about.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's the journey for many veterinars that you

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recall things that are significant in your practice life, the

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poignant episodes, the sad episodes, the incredibly funny episodes, the

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things that make you scratch your head. But for myself,

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it was a reflection of an awareness that all of

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these stories have a common thread, and that common thread

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is the animal bond. The bond for myself personally not

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only forms with animals, but with the families that I'm

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graced with coming through my doors with their pets. And

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that's a really powerful notion in my mind and my

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practice has evolved to always have that sentiment of trust

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and that sentiment of bonding to both ends of the leash.

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Like I say in the book, is love at both

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ends of the leash. And I don't know if every

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veterinarian shares that, but I like to think that they do.

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For me, it's super important to have that bond exist,

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nurture it so that when I see a pet, it's

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six weeks of age and they I'll see them at

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seventeen eighteen years of age. I've been part of that

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journey with them. And that's so so important in my

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life as a venarian.

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Speaker 1: And you know, and that's powerful too. And I love

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how you said that because it's absolutely true because through

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the hardships, the heartaches and all the beautiful things that

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energies of both the animal and the human companion. Absolutely,

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that's a juggling act and it's.

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Speaker 3: You know, you're not trained when you go to ved school.

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knowing a little bit about parts and service. You know

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the anatomy, you know the drug therapy, you know what

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rudimentary skills and surgery that develop well after you get

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your diploma. But the psychology of practicing and nurturing animals

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own science. Many times, and I've said this in the

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book as well. Many times an answer will come out

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of a part of the room where a little kid sit.

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he chewed that doll leg two weeks ago, you know,

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and you develop a raid off for interaction, and it's

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so important to get that right. I wish they had

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emphasized more of this, and I think it's working its

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way into coursework in veterinary medicine, but training people to

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be aware of senses and innuendo and things that are

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half said, it's important to embellish agnosta capability, incredibly important

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to be an asker of questions. When I'm examining an animal,

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I'm examining that animal, asking it questions with my hands,

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with my sense of smell and hearing, but I'm also

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engaged in a conversation with the owner. Those two conversations

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are simultaneous, and you've really got to be careful to

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pick up bits and pieces from each of them that

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will help you ultimately help the animal. Not an easy art,

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and it develops over a period of time. I think

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a big dose of empathy and a big dose of

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compassion is so much part of that capability. I wish

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they taught that in VET school. I wish I had

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that that day I left the Cornell with my diploma

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because it's a real insight into how to deal with

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ventory medicine. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, and how things have changed over the years. You know,

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not only from the venory and the science side of things.

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and forties or even into the early two thousands are

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now available from us. Absolutely science standpoint, but the compassion,

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like you had mentioned how we treat our animals. You know,

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in the early days, we worked on the farms and

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our animals were a utility, you know, something that we

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kept healthy long enough to help us do our job

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and make put bread on the table. To now there

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are children, you know.

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Speaker 3: The family members and are absolutely correct, and you know

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the evolution of who they are in our life has

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just been an amazing thing for me to witness from

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the time I knocked on a venarian's door when I

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was thirteen and said, I'd like to work here. You

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don't have to pay me it because I want to

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be a veterinarian, you know, only anything. And the guy

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bit and said, come in here. We'll see about that.

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that hung around for six months before it was even

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offered any kind of true work in the hospital. But

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my god, there have been people in my life that

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have just always seem to be there at the right moment,

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and it's almost as if it was the pre planning

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of it all was something so so important. But the bond,

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the bond between pets, their owners and myself, that's the

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core of what I do. We like to say on

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the YouTube channel I have called a pet mindset. We

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empower pet parents to protect the bond. And it's that

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bond that's evolved over time as well. They have become

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more and more significant in people's lives. It also it

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demands that people are the best pet parents they can be,

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because as medicine has gotten more and more sophisticated. It's

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gotten more and more expensive to have a pet, So

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that notion of prevention, that notion of protection, of daily

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awareness of where your pet is as you would any

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child in the family, is paramountally important. It's just become

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more evident to me. And that's what the book is about.

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The book is about protecting that bond. And the story

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is sure they have entertainment value, they're interesting, but the

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main message is protect the bond. I love it.

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Speaker 1: I love that. I fully believe in that, and I

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fully believe that every day that bond grows and you

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have to help it grow, help it nurture and have

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a great lifetime with your pets. So I agree with

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that wholeheartedly. So these stories and Off the Leash obviously

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is your history, your lifetime that's still still cooking along.

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Pretty good tell us about how you sort through because

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I can imagine when I when I first put my book,

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first book out, Wagging Tails. It was right when I

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started working full time with animals, and it was it

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wasn't easy, but it was a process where Okay, I

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had a nice collection of stories, I could put it

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into a book. But you've got a huge collection and

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a huge collection that's up here in your mind and

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in your heart. How do you weed through that to determine, okay,

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to get this message across about building that bond and

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that lifetime bond. Which messages or which stories are going

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to get that message pushed through.

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Speaker 3: I wish I could say there was an absolute science

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to it. I you know, when you start thinking about

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something of this sort, the message has to follow a chronologue.

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my first dead animal and being so upset that the

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loss of a sparrow, a small sparrow, that I ran

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in my cupped hands up three flights of steps in

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an apartment building in Brooklyn and asked my mom to

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mike alive again. And she shook her head and held

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me in that motherly embrace that only moms can give

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their kids and said, Keviny's gone. And it not only

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was the loss of that animal, but it was everything

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around us seemed to be diminished. There was just a

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reduction in the world for me, that this life was

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no longer going to be part of the landscape. And

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that started the journey when I that's the very first

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story in the book, and I have to think chronologically

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to organize my thoughts. There are as funny you should say, well,

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buzzing up in your head because there are stories that

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are not in a book that maybe a sequel will

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be down the line. For me, I certainly think aloe

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lines of how the core message of who these animals

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are in our lives and why was this so important

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veterinarian to protect life. And my whole journey has been

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that same notion that these are valuable creatures and they're important,

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and I think the world needs a heavy dose, a

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heavy dose of that type of compassion for things that

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are valuable because they just are in the world. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, I think that's a good message across the board,

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especially with their animals. So today, yeah, well, I applaud

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you for that. You know, most kids will either a

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say they want to be a professional baseball player when

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when they're me and then I realize I don't have

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nearly enough talent. I did, Okay, not that great, But

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you know I hear time and time again youngsters that

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want to be veterinarians but they get discouraged because there's

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these things. It's hard work. You have to study, you

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have to learn the science behind it, and even more so,

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you have to have I think people around you they

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are compassionate, as the theme goes, to help you.

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Speaker 3: Along without a doubt. And you know, the two people

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I work with every day, two veterinarians came to me

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and that's why I never forgot my own experience as

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a young man. They came to me in the tenth

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grade and volunteered shadowed me for a couple of days.

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of the week. They're there and they're veterinarians. They share

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that in their hearts and minds. They share that same

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place where compassion and being a good steward of the

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animal community is so so important. And you know, good

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business entails being mindful of so many things, but one

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of the real tenants of a good business is to

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be be that caretaker in what I do. And if

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you can, if you can have a young veterinarian accomplish

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that type of mindset early in their career, they can

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be a superstar. I'm still a journeyman. I'm still learning

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that's what I call it practice, right, that's it. You know,

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I'm still in the learning phase, but that sense of

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compassion is so so important.

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Speaker 1: Right, And I think it's fantastic. You surround yourself with

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very talented people and very compassionate people, and you identified

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that early on, and I could see that you nurtured

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these steps almost seem to be sometimes planned out in

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a way that and I don't want to wear too

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much on my sleeve of my own personal beliefs, but

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it's just been an incredible journey. I've always been as

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a kid, I was a very geeky kid. I was

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always interested in how things work. I surround myself with

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machinery today that's just state of the art. The other

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day I took a rug out with an endoscope on

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a dog pieces of chewed up rugging that would have

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had anybody else's hands, necessitated opening the dog up surgically,

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and I sent a home dog home in three hours

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rather than three days. That's a win. That's it. That's

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you know, that's incredible benefit of the technology today. I

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love to do my majority of my work with the

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ultrasound machine. It's a modality that was never there. Years ago,

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we had X ray's that were all well and good.

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But now I can look inside an organ and see

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what's its function is about. I do laser surgery. It's

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like Star Wars. I can take out a tumor without bleeding,

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pain swelling. And you know, I even wear the Obi

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wan Kenobi hood.

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Speaker 1: No I don't, you should?

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Speaker 3: You should. That's the talking about the sophistication of vendor

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and medicine today versus years ago that you alluded to.

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It's wonderful. But if I can prevent those problems from

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happening by educating people, by making them take notice early

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on in the disease process, that's a real win. That's

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a real win. And that's what that's what my mind

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and heart are about.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, I love it. I love it. Yeah, we were

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just speaking last night. I've got a is Schnauzer who's

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going to be fourteen this year. And when we had

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her as a puppy, she tried climbing up these stairs

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and when the legs missed and fractured her knee. Now

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she recovered brilliantly. We had a great surgeon and everything

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was good and she's good as new today. But even

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things that I learned through that that I didn't know

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through having other animals in my lifetime, things like cold

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laser therapy after surgery for healing purposes.

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Speaker 3: Therapy lasers wonderful tool. They were amazing things. There's light

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therapy today. We do PRP Playlettridge plasma therapy and practice.

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I do infuse stem cells derived from body fat, abdominal fat.

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We take forty grands of abdominal fat, turned it into

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millions of stem cells, put it back into the patient

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as a graft of self and it does no harm

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that they don't react to it because it's their own cells.

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And you see these miracles of arthritic improvement, allergy reduction,

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other thing that are not even associated with the intent

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that you put it in get better reduction in the

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amount of insulin, and animal gets because the pancreas is functioning.

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It's remarkable today and the sophistication of veterinary medicine is

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on a par with huan medicine. But I like to

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believe that prevention is still the mainstay of keeping animals.

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Speaker 1: Well, yep, absolutely, yep, I agree with that whole. Harley

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was told a friend the other day, it's like you,

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I always use the terminology. You pay for it now

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or pay for it later.

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Speaker 3: That's life.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's very true. You know, keep it maintain and

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it's gonna last a lot longer and you're not gonna

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fay as much in the end. So I like it.

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I like that for sure. We're going to come to

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a commercial break real quick. We'll come back and chat

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a little bit further with doctor Kevin Lynch and talk

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to him about his book Off the Leash, Tills from

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a Lifetime of Healing Pets and wonder So everybody hang tight,

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well beack. After this commercial break. You're listening to Animal

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to go down. Then I took him into the vet

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to him checked out, and then there was no signs

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at all inside.

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Speaker 1: My cat had issues that developed in his eight and

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three months later, my ven airing said let's go ahead

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I've got a labrador. You could hardly lift yourself up

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off the floor. The treatment list came to therapy. That's

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when I said this could be the ticket. About three

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weeks you could tell she was very alert. She was

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going on buy my lock and she is just like

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Speaker 5: Let's talk pets on Petlife Radio dot com.

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Speaker 1: Now, welcome back to animal rights on pet Life Radio.

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I'm telling you our conversation with author and doctor Kevin

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lynch vetinaran practice, fifty years in service and all the

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wonderful things that he's learned throughout the years, and he's

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put all the best stories, or at least phase one

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of the best stories in the book Off the Leash Now,

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Doctor Lynch, we talked a little about veterinary medicine and

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what it takes today. One thing that popped in my

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mind my for good or bad, my dogs in particular.

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Cats have been included in this too, but dogs in particular.

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We have had a series of specialists, everything from neurological

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to skeletal, to gi track to you name it. We

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have our main general practice titioner. Early on, we had

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a vet that just did the shots because he's right

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around the corner. He's really good, but he was right

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around the corner. So we had this whole host of

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veterinarians and they were all fantastic in their own right,

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but they also had their own personalities, their own way

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of going about doing that, and their own way of

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having compassion as we talked about, or maybe not as

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great a compassion. How would you say a novice, a

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first time pet owner, or one that is having some

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challenges with their animals, How did they swort through all that?

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How do they know, Okay, what is the best specialist

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to go to and when should I do that? Fear

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to what my general practitioner can do.

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Speaker 3: You know, you just described the whole evolution of venary

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medicine quite aptly. I always hope people if you're going

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to get a PET, and I've spoken to people not

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in my immediate area but well out of the area,

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or former clients that move out of state, I think

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the best thing to do is word of mouth in

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the neighborhood. Who's got that quality, who understands you, who

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seems to listen the best. Many veterinarians are trained on

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a level today that is just excellent. Vetering colleges are

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so adaptive to producing a great product at the end.

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But I still always tell people, if you're going to

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get a PET, if I have the privilege of seeing

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you myself, I'm going to be every bit as much

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doctor Lynch as I can. But talk to people in

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your neighborhood first and see who's doing the most credible job,

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and you'll get It's almost like taking a poll. And

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I don't think that's unfair. I think that's very wise,

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because there's more to medicine than just an injection or

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a scalpel blade or a pill off the shelf. There's

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a lot of intuition, there's a lot of listening, and

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people that have that talent. I think are more adept

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at the craft and more adept veterinarians are. The instance

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of going to specialists. That is something today that we

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lived with and it was never available years ago. In

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my own practice life. The first few years, I can

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remember getting up in the middle of the night and

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doing a cesarean section with nothing more than the owner's

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help and delivering puppies and getting them into the world

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because there were no specialty clinics around, or emergency clinics

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around the area was just so isolated on the eastern

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end of Long Island. The nearest center for venory medicine

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was the Animal Medical Center in New York City, sixty

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five miles away. Many times people couldn't even make that journey,

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So I kind of bit my teeth on the raw

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end of veterinary medicine in those days. But today it's

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a whole different world. There were specialties for everything, and

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God bless it that these people are good at what

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they do. I'm a forever student. When I speak to

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a specialist, I'm going to talk about that case, but

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if I could get another minute and a half out

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of them on something else that I need to know,

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you bet. I'm going to ask a question, and it's

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remarkable how people love to be teachers at every level.

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Design so always humans, but these specialists are just so

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gracious and imparting knowledge, even when the case is not

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something that they're addressing that I might have referred them to.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't call it a struggle for my thought pattern,

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but it seems like as the years gone by, and

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as we said, more and more specialists have gotten into play.

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And this is for human menaces as well, but in

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veterinarian care in particular, everybody seems to be focused on

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specialty more so, maybe even than general care. But trying

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to find that right person in how to sort through

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all that that is, it's a lot like sorting through

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animal nutrition.

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Speaker 3: You know you want to get you want to get

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really confused. Go down throad today. You know pipple's bad,

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this is good. Make them make him a homemade dies. No,

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don't do that. Don't add fats. You're in too much fat.

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It's it's confusing for us.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: One of the areas I will say to you that

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really has become important in my life in so far

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as prevention, is dental care for animals and course of that,

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I actually was so frustrated with seeing repetitive animals coming

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in with severe dental disease over the years. I actually

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and it was the intent to solve a problem, not

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invent the product. But I invented a product called a

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plaquegone device, which is a microfiber system to remove plaque

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from teeth before it hardens into tatter, pain free, Very

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good at what it does, fear free for the animal.

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But the reason why I bring that up is that's

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to me a step ahead of having to refer an

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animal to a specialist for severe advanced periodental disease, or

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even having an animal that necessitates anesthesia to have teeth pulled,

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when teeth cleaned, If we can produce a system and

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a daily cleaning and our daily awareness of oral health,

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you better believe people will look at everything else down

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the line. I called dental disease the tip of the

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iceberg medical iceberg, But so many other organs are targets

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because of dental disease. But when you're examining a pet's mouth,

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dog cap, you're also looking at the rest of their body.

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You're looking for changes, and it's those changes that can

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represent illness in some cases it's amazing. I get people

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in the office. I happen to be looking in his

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mouth dock and I fell this lump in his neck,

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or he was whining on the back leg when I

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steadied him to look at in his mouth to see

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what his teeth were about teaching people that awareness and

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this is also in the book the home health exam

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that I described in the book, how does an owner

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do a home health exam? Not to train them as veterinarians,

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but to make them the better pet parent by inculcating

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awareness where that pets body is. That's so important, and

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that we'll talk about specialists. We talk about the incredible

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sophistication of medicine. If we can bring it back, dial

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it back down to a simple examine of your examination

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of your animal at home, you can oftentimes avoid very

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difficult problems.

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Speaker 6: Nice.

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 1: Quick exam. Spend more time with your animal.

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is all well and good, but look at their body

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like you would a child. That's important. That's fulfilling that

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circle of them being family members. Okay, we're going to

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look at you on a daily basis, as if you

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know we're examining the troops where we're going to send

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you off into the art, into your world, knowing that

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everything is working. There's no pain in your ears, there's

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no discharge in your eyes, your skin and hair coat

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are fine, there's no swellings that weren't there yesterday. You're

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not whimpering because I touched you in a way that

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I've done a thousand times before, but it's producing pain.

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All of that, all of that is an awareness factor,

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and to me, that's so important to teach people right

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from the get go. When that puppy or kid in

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is six or eight weeks of age, they've got to

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start looking, they've got to start becoming aware of who

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these other family members are. Love it.

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Speaker 1: I love a good message. Well, doctor Lynch, where can

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people find out more about you and the book off

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the leash and learn as much as they can.

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Speaker 3: While we have the two answers there? The pet Mindset

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channel on YouTube is a discussion forum for a lot

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of people in the world and I love doing it. Also,

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you can find out about the book or the dental

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device at doctor Kevin Lynch dot com. And we just

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try to do things that are helpful for families and hopefully,

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hopefully that's the message I'm bringing to the table.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, we're doing a great job. We'll definitely get those

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avenues posted so people can continue to learn and continue

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to build that great bond with their animals.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for that, everybody.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you pick up a copy of the book

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Off the Leash Tells from a Lifetime of Healing Pets

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and wonder by doctor Kevin Lynch. So thanks for coming

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on the show today. We appreciate learning a lot as always,

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these stories are fantastic and always continuing to learn right.

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Speaker 3: This has been a total privilege and a pleasure tonight.

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Thank you very much, my pleasure.

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Speaker 1: Well, we're coming in the show today. I want to

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thank everyone for listening to Animal Rights on pet Life Radio.

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I want to thank the producers and sponsors for making

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this show possible. If you have any questions, comments ideas

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for the show, drop us a line. You can go

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to pet life radio dot com. We'll be glad to

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answer your questions, entertain your comments, and bring on the

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people you want to hear from most And while you're there,

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checking out all the other wonderful shows at petlife Radio

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dot com. So until next time, write a great story

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about the animals in your life, and who knows, you

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may be the next guest and animal rights pet Life

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Radio have a great day.

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Speaker 5: Let's talk pets every week on demand only on pet

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life Radio dot com.

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