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<v Speaker 1>You have to love the laugh. Welcome back to Eve

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Radio. It is May the twenty first, twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>How quickly Derby has passed. Welcome back to the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, hump Day is Wednesday, as everyone knows if

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<v Speaker 1>you have a regular job. I haven't had a regular

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<v Speaker 1>job in a long, long time, so most of the

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<v Speaker 1>days are all the same. Sometimes Thursday is my vacation day.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes it's Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>You just never know.

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<v Speaker 1>But for people that do work Monday through Friday, it

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<v Speaker 1>is hump day. You're almost pass halfway there. But you

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<v Speaker 1>got to work today. Give your employers, give them a

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<v Speaker 1>little work today. Make them say, God, Lee, what a

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<v Speaker 1>great day. My employees were just so good. Give them

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<v Speaker 1>a great day's work.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we got my younger son on another line.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's bring him on, Shannon, And how are you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing great this morning. I'm still trying to figure

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<v Speaker 3>out what you over. You're talking about saying good morning

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<v Speaker 3>to our service workers. You're talking about the people right

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<v Speaker 3>now that are doing the lawn outside of our us.

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<v Speaker 3>As Blad would say, you know, yeah, a palace.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, bland It's crazy. Everyone understands that Blanding is crazy. No,

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<v Speaker 1>we're just talking about people in general that work, and

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<v Speaker 1>we all work. Punch the clock anyway, phone numbers five zero, two,

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<v Speaker 1>five seven, one, seventy nine hundred, and we do have

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<v Speaker 1>people that punch the clock. You have to be there

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<v Speaker 1>at eight o'clock. You should be scurrying around getting ready

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<v Speaker 1>to leave so that you don't have to rush. Beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>day outside. We don't have the issues that we had yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, let's just think about the people that our

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<v Speaker 1>last Friday and Saturday was just devastating. So let's just

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<v Speaker 1>make sure we think about the Paduca Tillman area and

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<v Speaker 1>all the areas that were affected by the tornadoes. I mean, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky has really been hit these last three or four years.

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<v Speaker 1>We have gotten everything. So we just want to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that we keep them in our prayers.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's what we have.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna though it to you for national news, but

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<v Speaker 1>I first and foremost have to I picked up you great,

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<v Speaker 1>gave me the p I looked at it and I

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<v Speaker 1>see down at the bottom. One of the nicest horse

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<v Speaker 1>trainers there was, Larry de Merritt died at seventy five,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was on the show last year, nice as

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<v Speaker 1>gentleman from the Bahamas, had worked his way up to

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<v Speaker 1>where he had a Kentucky Derby contender West Saratoga in

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<v Speaker 1>twelfth and the twenty twenty four Kentucky Derby, and he

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<v Speaker 1>passed from complications of the cancer that he has had

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<v Speaker 1>that he has been fighting from cardiac arrests.

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<v Speaker 2>I just wanted to make sure I got that out.

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<v Speaker 1>But now, Anthony, I'm going to throw it to you

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<v Speaker 1>before we bring on my one and only I call

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<v Speaker 1>him Big Hard. Everyone else knows him. Has Rodney McCrae,

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<v Speaker 1>tenyure veteran in the NBA, played in NBA Finals, which

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to talk about and his experiences because Anthony,

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<v Speaker 1>so many of the players are crying now about too

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<v Speaker 1>many games, not enough time, all the excuses that we're hearing.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to bring on a person that who has

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<v Speaker 1>experienced it, who has played every game of a season

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<v Speaker 1>six times. I mean, guys, he didn't miss I just

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<v Speaker 1>want you all to know you talk about a person

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<v Speaker 1>that was reliable. That's Ridney McCrae, without a doubt. So

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<v Speaker 1>we'll have him on after the seven to fifteen breaks.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm throwing it to you, Anthony, let's get some

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<v Speaker 1>national news in before we take some calls.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, of course, obviously we got tons of We got

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<v Speaker 3>so many events going on in sports, it's it's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 3>It's almost hard to keep up with. I know that

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<v Speaker 3>one of the first things we do want to get

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<v Speaker 3>into is obviously SEC and ACC baseball. Most conferences are

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<v Speaker 3>going into their postseason. But we had a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>losses going through the state of Kentucky. Obviously Kentucky got

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<v Speaker 3>up there last night in the SEC tournament first round

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<v Speaker 3>Oklahoma five to one, and our Cardinals got upset in

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<v Speaker 3>the first round the ACC Tournament to Pittsburgh thirteen to eleven.

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<v Speaker 3>They didn't make a comeback because they were down like

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<v Speaker 3>eight to one at one point, So I'm surprised it

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<v Speaker 3>was even that close.

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<v Speaker 4>But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember when you and Oo had Will Smith used

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<v Speaker 3>to be and we were trying to go to the

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<v Speaker 3>super Regionals. Now we're struggling, got the first.

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<v Speaker 4>Round of a SEC tournament.

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<v Speaker 3>It's twenty How it's worth it. It goes in waves

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<v Speaker 3>of roller coasters. Because I even went to the games

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<v Speaker 3>we were hosting the super Regionals, and I was I

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<v Speaker 3>used to love going to watch and play, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and it happens. Every team goes through stretches where they're

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<v Speaker 3>really good and players started graduating. It's almost kind of

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<v Speaker 3>a rebuild and restart, and you know, I think that's

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<v Speaker 3>one of the phases that Louisville's going through right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Even Kentucky as well in baseball, and we've seen it

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<v Speaker 3>in basketball too, So you know, baseball is not the

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<v Speaker 3>only sport we've seen it in.

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<v Speaker 4>Kentucky was really good baseball.

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<v Speaker 1>But Atney last year, Kentucky was really good, and truly

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<v Speaker 1>they were Oklahoma. Oklahoma was thirty four and nineteen Anthony.

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<v Speaker 1>That wasn't an upset. Oklahoma was a better team. Kentucky

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<v Speaker 1>was twenty four, twenty nine and twenty four. Now Louisville's

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<v Speaker 1>was an upset. Pittsburgh that they were twenty eight and

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six. Louislle was thirty five and twenty one. People

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<v Speaker 1>expected Louisvillo to beat Pittsburgh the Oklahoma game. People expected

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<v Speaker 1>Oklahoma Kentucky had beaten them, but it wasn't expected yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm gonna tell you what a show you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>The drought louis was going through a drought.

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<v Speaker 2>You're right.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Will Smith, who lives down the street from

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<v Speaker 1>us in Martin's neighborhood. When he's here in the summer,

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<v Speaker 1>a KC D boy. We all know about the Dodgers

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<v Speaker 1>World's champion, but Anthony, gosh, coach McDonald's making a ton

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<v Speaker 1>of money. We did a show on it. We didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone did put it in the paper, Anthony, so all

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<v Speaker 1>I was doing was reading from the paper. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>go in research at this time. I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>be the negative person, downer Jerry.

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<v Speaker 4>That was not me.

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<v Speaker 1>He makes a ton of money in the staff, makes

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of money, Anthony. To be losing in the

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<v Speaker 1>first round of the ACC tournament and it's been about

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<v Speaker 1>a four or five year stretch, something is going to

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<v Speaker 1>have to give it. Louisville, hopefully they'll still get into

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<v Speaker 1>College World Series. Both teams were Anthony, Louisll's got to

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<v Speaker 1>do something this year, period, point blank. I mean, either

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<v Speaker 1>coach McDonald has to take a pay cut, they can't

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<v Speaker 1>afford the ating their and he made boatload of money,

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<v Speaker 1>or or he had to find a different venue. But

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<v Speaker 1>something has happened because there's just too many seasons like this.

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<v Speaker 2>Now Anthony to work.

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<v Speaker 1>Louis was just falling apart at the end, so we

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<v Speaker 1>had to wait and see what else we got going

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<v Speaker 1>on in national news.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but obviously we did have our first round of

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<v Speaker 3>the NBA playoffs too. Obviously we had the Western Conference

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<v Speaker 3>Finals go on last night, and it was we ro out.

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<v Speaker 3>The first half wasn't but the second half. I woke

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<v Speaker 3>up and I didn't expect the score to be that bad.

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<v Speaker 3>The Timberwolves were up in the first half about two.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they were all bout two. If I was,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not, No, there were about four. They're by four

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<v Speaker 3>in the first half, forty eight to forty four, got

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<v Speaker 3>out scored seventy to forty in the second half. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>to lose, to lose by twenty six.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeez, Randa is the only reason they were leading at halftime.

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<v Speaker 1>He carried I mean carried the Timberwolves. That's the only

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<v Speaker 1>reason Randa was playing the lights out in the first half.

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<v Speaker 1>He carried them. Only reason after that, Uh, it was Well,

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<v Speaker 1>here's the problem I have with Anthony Edwards. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he had a little sprained angle, but he came back

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<v Speaker 1>from that and he played. He played okay in the

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<v Speaker 1>second half, and he even said it himself. There's no

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<v Speaker 1>way in the Western Conference Finals he can go five

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<v Speaker 1>for thirteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, there's no way.

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<v Speaker 1>He has to. He is the best player. He has

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<v Speaker 1>to try to create for others. He has to create tempo.

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<v Speaker 1>He has to force the action. That's what Minnesota needs.

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<v Speaker 1>Shake gild Is Alexander. I think he was three for thirteen,

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<v Speaker 1>two for thirteen at halftime, Anthony, but the kid continued

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<v Speaker 1>to push, got me and to be in ten for

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seven over four from the three eleven for fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>But Anthony, his team needs him to he thirty one

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<v Speaker 1>is thirty one and Anthony Edwards.

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<v Speaker 2>I guarantee you the next time they play.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's going, He's going, that's a nasty thirty one

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<v Speaker 3>thirty one.

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<v Speaker 4>It is. No.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't agree with that and be like thirty one,

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<v Speaker 3>he's crust. She's twenty seven times.

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<v Speaker 2>You better have thirty shit, No, I agree. But here's

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<v Speaker 2>the deal, Anthony.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with that, But when you are the best player, Anthony,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to take the responsibility.

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<v Speaker 2>Got me two.

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<v Speaker 1>Put it on the line to where at least you're

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<v Speaker 1>able to say, hey, he was ten for twenty seven. Anthony,

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<v Speaker 1>that means he put it on the line. My man

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<v Speaker 1>aunt Man five for thirteen. Any he didn't put on

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<v Speaker 1>the line, Anney, he knows he didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't put it in.

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<v Speaker 4>Didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>But you can't put all that blame on an You

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<v Speaker 3>can't put all the blame on the nose. You gotta look.

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<v Speaker 3>You gotta look at the supporting cast. Look at the

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<v Speaker 3>porting cast. Outside of Randall, Jane McDaniels seven points, three

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<v Speaker 3>for five, Rudy Gobert three two points, one for three,

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<v Speaker 3>Mike Conley two for eight, seven points, nobody else scored

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<v Speaker 3>double figures except for Edwards and Randalls. And Edwards was

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<v Speaker 3>out for like an entire core because he rolled his ankle.

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<v Speaker 3>If you look at the thunder supporting cast, hol Room

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<v Speaker 3>is six or nine fifteen points, Jaylen Williams seb for

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<v Speaker 3>eighteen nineteen points, Hardenstein six freight for twelve points. They

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<v Speaker 3>have four. He had three other players in double figures,

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<v Speaker 3>and he had a bench supporting cast that had almost

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<v Speaker 3>probably you know, four or five people that could have

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<v Speaker 3>scored double figures.

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<v Speaker 4>There are short five pointed two seven eight difference.

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<v Speaker 3>And I hate to say it, Why did I choose

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<v Speaker 3>Why did I choose okay See?

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<v Speaker 1>And they've got a better team now, that's all.

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<v Speaker 2>I said.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay See in Cleveland, and I picked okay C to

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<v Speaker 1>win it.

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<v Speaker 2>They have a better team.

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<v Speaker 3>Athony top Okay, they should win it off realistic, But

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<v Speaker 3>I hate to say it, and I would say I

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<v Speaker 3>feel I can't say. I say. I feel bad for

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<v Speaker 3>Anthony Edwards. He technically plays the two guard for him,

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<v Speaker 3>but he doesn't have a real point and he's not

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<v Speaker 3>a point either. He has to developed into that role

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<v Speaker 3>or the timber Wis have to go out and get

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<v Speaker 3>a real one.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>They do have Dillinghams, who was a young and upcomer.

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<v Speaker 3>They have Karen Shannon junior that has a chance. They

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<v Speaker 3>have two young guys. They have an opportunity twenty three

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<v Speaker 3>minutes and seven points with only one foule. He's one.

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<v Speaker 3>He's just too old to play that long and he's

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<v Speaker 2>He kind of had a great career, but yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>he's just and he's old.

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<v Speaker 3>He's done now, he said, he said he doesn't have

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of time less, so he was trying to

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<v Speaker 3>win a championship. But I don't think it's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the deal, though, Anthony Cason Wallace, I never, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna get to break. We got Ridney on hold.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna bring him on after the break. I never,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna let Rodney answer all these questions. Cason

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<v Speaker 1>Wallace from University of Kentucky thirty three minutes and he

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<v Speaker 1>only shot it three times, seven assists. But what is

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<v Speaker 1>his reason out there? He's out there to guard ant man,

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<v Speaker 1>and he guards and man. That boy is much better

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<v Speaker 1>than I everets he doesn't. He just didn't play this

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<v Speaker 1>way in college defensively. So anyway, we're gonna get to break.

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<v Speaker 1>We got the one and only big Heart on the line.

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<v Speaker 1>Rodney m all the information to see the most unselfish

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<v Speaker 1>teammate would pass it to Marty Pulliam before he would

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<v Speaker 1>shoot the ball. Is the one and only Ridney McCrae.

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<v Speaker 1>After the break, Welcome back to Eve's Sports Radio. As

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna introduce Shannon. Please bring on the one and

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<v Speaker 1>only Rodney McCrae to Eve Sports Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Big Heart, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 4>Good morning, Good morning, how you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, Rodney, you don't have to be the calm Rodney.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody knows you can come on and say what's up, Eve.

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<v Speaker 4>It's earlier in the morning down here.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Understand Rodney my youngest son. So you got to understand, Anthony.

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<v Speaker 1>Rodney would throw the ball into me ninety and iverson

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<v Speaker 1>the time he took the ball out of bounce Coach

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<v Speaker 1>Crumb and he'd throw it in. And if I made

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<v Speaker 1>a mistake, Rider, I turned it over. I just looked

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<v Speaker 1>back and he'd be giving me this eye, Anthony. He'd

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<v Speaker 1>just be staring at me, like, wait to the door

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<v Speaker 1>room tonight.

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<v Speaker 4>We're gonna talk about that.

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<v Speaker 5>Wait to the door, It writes in locker Room the

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<v Speaker 5>good old days.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what I want people to know about Rodney mccrade

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<v Speaker 1>before I introduce this man correctly, because we're gonna talk

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<v Speaker 1>about NBA players and time management, not playing. But Rodney's

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<v Speaker 1>first year nineteen eighty three eighty four, he played seventy

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<v Speaker 1>nine games. There's only eighty two regular season Anthony. His

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<v Speaker 1>second season, he played eighty two games out of eighty two.

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<v Speaker 1>His third season, Anthony, he played eighty two games out

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<v Speaker 1>of eighty two. His fourth season, Anthony, he played eighty

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<v Speaker 1>one games out of eighty two. His fifth season, Anthony,

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<v Speaker 1>he played eighty one out eighty two. I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to say anymore. I really don't have to introduce Olympia

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty. People don't even know that National champion Night

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen eighty played in the finals of the NBA nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>eighty six against thee Larry Bird, which we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about, came from a phenomenal high school team, Mount Vernon.

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<v Speaker 1>Great parents. I mean, Anthony Rdy came up the way

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<v Speaker 1>you came up. His daddy didn't play. That's all their hard.

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<v Speaker 1>Your father didn't play, did he.

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<v Speaker 4>Ridney, No, No, no, not at all. I don't all

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<v Speaker 4>tough lessons learned, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what happened, Rodney, But we had real parents.

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<v Speaker 1>Frank didn't play. Your dad did not play. I knew

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<v Speaker 1>your father, boy, they were the best of friends. But

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<v Speaker 1>because they had control of their kids, we knew we

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<v Speaker 1>did wrong things, Rightney, You know we did everybody's bad.

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<v Speaker 1>I tell people that, but we knew when we were

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<v Speaker 1>doing wrong. Now today I don't know if the parents

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<v Speaker 1>know what the kids do wrong. But that's a whole

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<v Speaker 1>different subject, right, But you got great parents. Your mother

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<v Speaker 1>still living? Oh, how she doing right? How's your mom doing?

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<v Speaker 4>Pretty good? Pretty good? Getting up there in age a

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<v Speaker 4>little you know, memory losslor here and there. So she's

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<v Speaker 4>hanging in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, my mom's ninety five, lives with me, Rodney, And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I understand. So Scooter and I talk about

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<v Speaker 1>it all the time, and everyone knows that Rodney's the

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<v Speaker 1>younger brother. He didn't act that way of Scooter. Rodney's

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<v Speaker 1>the younger brother of the great Scooter McCrae.

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<v Speaker 2>Rodney. We had a ball at Frankie's wedding.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god, Scooter, Wilie and I you talking about acting up.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness. I've got to get the tape. I

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<v Speaker 1>know Terryll was taping it. I've got to get it

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<v Speaker 1>because I got.

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<v Speaker 2>To post it. We brought back the eighties, Rodney.

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<v Speaker 5>We brought back the eighties, brother and we had a ball.

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<v Speaker 2>Monica Smith, Derek's wife. We had so much fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, I don't know if it was Frankie's wedding or

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen eighty Miller Hall reunion, but we had a

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<v Speaker 1>great time.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm telling you we.

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<v Speaker 2>Did.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, rod here's the deal, and I'm gonna let

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony start, because a lot of people don't know about

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<v Speaker 1>your Olympics experience. So Anthony start, get Rodney first with

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<v Speaker 1>our first question.

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<v Speaker 2>The other day.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so this is this is actually the news to me.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know that you're technically a part of the Olympics,

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<v Speaker 3>but the one that got withdrew of the one in

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen eighty, if that's if I'm not wrong on the

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<v Speaker 3>year there you got told us about that because I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't even know that.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, my experience with the Olympic came from gosh, they

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<v Speaker 4>probably the trial declined the invitation, and the real reason

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<v Speaker 4>I got invitation was the success that we had at

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<v Speaker 4>the University of Louisville, of course, of winning the national championship.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm thinking that they are going to invite a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of guys from you know, championship team, which they

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<v Speaker 4>did myself and Derek Smith, and I'm sure they invited

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<v Speaker 4>of Louisville living legend Griff, but he was, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>paying for the next level was the next career countae

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<v Speaker 4>of you know, playing in the NBA. So of course

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<v Speaker 4>when I went down there, confident, proud, happy, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>coming off national championship. But it was another challenge for

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<v Speaker 4>me to go out there and play against It had

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<v Speaker 4>about two hundred, you know, all the players down there,

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<v Speaker 4>and went down there and just you know, stuck to

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<v Speaker 4>my value to kind of, you know, play with the fundamentals,

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<v Speaker 4>making the right plays, doing what I knew I could

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<v Speaker 4>go out there, and uh it gave me opportunity to

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<v Speaker 4>make the team, along with a couple of guys that

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<v Speaker 4>I got a chance to play with later on in

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<v Speaker 4>the NBA. So it was a great experience. We would

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<v Speaker 4>have loved to go on to the the Olympics, but unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 4>deal with things going on in the world that the

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<v Speaker 4>President decided that we wouldn't participate. Uh So when they

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<v Speaker 4>talk about Olympians, I'm proud that I made the team,

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<v Speaker 4>but of course we didn't get a chance to compete.

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<v Speaker 1>Runney yor did play. Though you all played exhibition games.

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<v Speaker 1>Who did you all play against and who we called.

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<v Speaker 4>It the gold medal games. We played against NBA players.

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<v Speaker 4>We played against a group of guys who made their

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<v Speaker 4>home in Los Angeles, We played in New York, we

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<v Speaker 4>played we played about five or six games against NBA

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<v Speaker 4>players and it was great experience to you know, play

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<v Speaker 4>against guys that were, you know, playing in the NBA. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>talking about high level guys that kept themselves in shape

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<v Speaker 4>and they you know it. You know, it was eye opener.

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<v Speaker 4>We had a pretty good team, confident guys who who

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<v Speaker 4>you know, believed in their themselves, and we we wind

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<v Speaker 4>up winning five our mom in games. It was I know,

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<v Speaker 4>we only had lost one game out about about five games.

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<v Speaker 4>So it was a taste of something that he thought

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<v Speaker 4>about it sometimes, like, hey, it's going to have to

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<v Speaker 4>you know, you're going to be better, get better between

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<v Speaker 4>now and your time when you graduate college if you

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<v Speaker 4>want to play at this level. So it was a

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<v Speaker 4>great experience to see that at a young age experience.

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<v Speaker 2>It tell me something you stepped in.

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<v Speaker 1>You always kind of set between Scooter and had in

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<v Speaker 1>the locker room at Old fair Grounds and you were

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<v Speaker 1>a little upset that you didn't get in that first.

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<v Speaker 2>Game, and Scooter looked that.

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<v Speaker 5>You said, what are you mad about, Rodney, And you

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<v Speaker 5>were like, I didn't play it.

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<v Speaker 1>Scooter said, you didn't expect to play.

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<v Speaker 4>I tell that story all the time. Well, uh, you

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<v Speaker 4>know when you're playing in high school and you're and

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<v Speaker 4>you're you know, you're playing you don't really practice that much.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just be you know, Frank, so you know, you

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<v Speaker 4>you play the game, so not really understanding well for

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<v Speaker 4>me at that age, the preparation part of the game.

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<v Speaker 4>And and you know, we used to have those scrimmages

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<v Speaker 4>that we all look forward to after just practicing for

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<v Speaker 4>weeks without you know, you know, breaking up and get

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<v Speaker 4>a chance to just go up and down. And I

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<v Speaker 4>had a little success, and you know, the scrimmages and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm all excited. Seasons getting ready to start and first

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<v Speaker 4>game coming out. You remember, like it was yesterday we

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<v Speaker 4>played South Alabama. Was a nip and tuck game. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>co I would look down there at the bench and

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<v Speaker 4>I looked back down there at him. I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>get ready call my name, like come on, and first

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<v Speaker 4>half to him line, I was like, okay, all right,

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<v Speaker 4>he don't want to get a freshman a chance to play.

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<v Speaker 4>S second half come and the buzzer goes off, and

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<v Speaker 4>of course I'm happy it was a nipp and tug game.

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<v Speaker 4>But then the selfishness comes in, like I can't believe right,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, I ain't get a chance to play,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, Randy, our team manager guys taking uniform

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<v Speaker 4>off and throw them, throw it in the middle of

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<v Speaker 4>the room, you know, so you can collect them and

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<v Speaker 4>you know, wash him getting ready for the next game.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm taking my shocks off in the uniform, all

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<v Speaker 4>mumbling in myself like you ain't really got to watch

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<v Speaker 4>just you know, hang it up on the hangar, don't

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<v Speaker 4>even watch it. So I'm sitting there mumbling, and you

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<v Speaker 4>as good as you hear him talking to me. He's like,

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<v Speaker 2>Man?

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<v Speaker 4>I can't believe. I ain't get it. Man, I did

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<v Speaker 4>work in them scrimmagers. I just like, really, I said, yeah, really.

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<v Speaker 4>She was like, he thought you was gonna get some

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<v Speaker 4>place time. I said, yeah, I played well in the scrimmagers.

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<v Speaker 4>He was like, it's not about that, It's about preparation.

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<v Speaker 4>How do you You don't even work hard in practice,

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<v Speaker 4>because y'all was giving me that too during practice. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>even the coaches coach Oh said, would be like, come on, man,

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<v Speaker 4>when we ran that mile, come on, keep up with me.

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<v Speaker 4>I bet you I could beat you. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>I bet you can too, because you wanted and you

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<v Speaker 4>I wasn't getting it between the as at that time.

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<v Speaker 4>So I was like, you know, you never was. It's

424
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<v Speaker 4>just it.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember, like yesterday Anthony Rodney would not want to practice.

426
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<v Speaker 1>He didn't like practicing. He didn't He wasn't an issue,

427
00:21:56.400 --> 00:21:59.640
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't a negative. He just didn't practice hard. Now, Anthony,

428
00:21:59.680 --> 00:22:02.039
<v Speaker 1>we had scrimmage games to where we would go around

429
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<v Speaker 1>the state and we would play amongst ourselves and it's

430
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<v Speaker 1>quae scrimmages and Bill Olson, Rodney and I are on

431
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<v Speaker 1>the second team. I had not earned a starting job

432
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<v Speaker 1>yet this my sophomore year. Bill Olson, we're doing work.

433
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<v Speaker 2>We're killing them.

434
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<v Speaker 1>Bill Olson looked at Darryl Wiley, Derek Scooter and said, y'all,

435
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<v Speaker 1>let no scrubs Anthony.

436
00:22:21.039 --> 00:22:23.359
<v Speaker 2>He says he didn't say it, but Rodney, you know

437
00:22:23.440 --> 00:22:25.359
<v Speaker 2>he said it. We said scrubs.

438
00:22:27.000 --> 00:22:29.880
<v Speaker 1>We looked at each other, said scrubbs, Anthony. We were

439
00:22:29.880 --> 00:22:33.480
<v Speaker 1>doing work, right. So Rodney doesn't get in. I earned

440
00:22:33.480 --> 00:22:35.720
<v Speaker 1>a starting job the last week, Anthony. I don't get

441
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<v Speaker 1>a certain job to the last week. I'm off sophomore season,

442
00:22:39.160 --> 00:22:41.119
<v Speaker 1>and right now I never forget it. I had sixteen

443
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<v Speaker 1>points against South Alabama. I was like, sure, maybe I

444
00:22:43.519 --> 00:22:45.160
<v Speaker 1>can earn this job and he'll leave me alone for

445
00:22:45.200 --> 00:22:47.319
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the year. But Roddy didn't get in,

446
00:22:47.599 --> 00:22:50.400
<v Speaker 1>and Scooter, his brother and Anthony tell you, we are

447
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<v Speaker 1>you serious, says you don't work hard enough for practice

448
00:22:53.000 --> 00:22:55.039
<v Speaker 1>to get in Rodney, we don't have that anymore.

449
00:22:55.359 --> 00:22:57.799
<v Speaker 2>See, there are no more Scooters. That's his brother.

450
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<v Speaker 1>Today brothers would be saying, hey man, this and right,

451
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<v Speaker 1>we got to get out of here. He mistreated you.

452
00:23:03.880 --> 00:23:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Scooter said, what's wrong with you? You don't practice hard enough.

453
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<v Speaker 1>Those days are done, Anthony. There are no more Scooters.

454
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<v Speaker 1>He was very unselfish, Anthony Riody, most unselfish superstar you

455
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<v Speaker 1>ever see.

456
00:23:15.079 --> 00:23:16.359
<v Speaker 2>I scored all my points. Right.

457
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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you, man, because you know you made me

458
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<v Speaker 1>look good. I had great teammates. I had great teammates.

459
00:23:24.039 --> 00:23:26.640
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you, Anthony. Right in and I broke all

460
00:23:26.640 --> 00:23:30.039
<v Speaker 1>the team's presses. Whatever was anything. We had to get

461
00:23:30.079 --> 00:23:32.480
<v Speaker 1>the ball up, get the ball in bounds. Coach Crumb

462
00:23:32.519 --> 00:23:34.039
<v Speaker 1>put it on us. And if we messed it up,

463
00:23:34.079 --> 00:23:36.599
<v Speaker 1>but did we hear it? I'm telling you Roddney was

464
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<v Speaker 1>a point center in college. Now, right before we go

465
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<v Speaker 1>to break, I want you to talk about the last

466
00:23:42.720 --> 00:23:46.119
<v Speaker 1>thing we're touching college. When Scooter goes down at Tennessee

467
00:23:46.720 --> 00:23:50.079
<v Speaker 1>and you do step in his freshman year and lead

468
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<v Speaker 1>us to a national championship.

469
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<v Speaker 2>What was the switch, Anthony Rodney? What made you change.

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<v Speaker 4>The switch when he when he got hurt in the

471
00:24:00.960 --> 00:24:04.440
<v Speaker 4>States kick? Then I was more worried about it. The

472
00:24:04.519 --> 00:24:07.839
<v Speaker 4>game of Tennessee is is he okay? Is he gonna

473
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<v Speaker 4>be all right? And you know, Coach Houston and UH,

474
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<v Speaker 4>Coach Crumb, the whole coaching staff and you guys called

475
00:24:14.960 --> 00:24:17.160
<v Speaker 4>me in and said, hey, he's gonna be all right.

476
00:24:17.240 --> 00:24:20.240
<v Speaker 4>Let the medical staff take care of him. We need you,

477
00:24:20.240 --> 00:24:22.359
<v Speaker 4>you know, get in the game. And I'm like who,

478
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<v Speaker 4>me like, yeah you because you know, we get ready

479
00:24:26.599 --> 00:24:29.960
<v Speaker 4>to play. We play in Tennessee at Tennessee with Reggie

480
00:24:30.079 --> 00:24:34.880
<v Speaker 4>Johnson all American and uh, I go in the game

481
00:24:35.039 --> 00:24:36.839
<v Speaker 4>and you know it's a nip and tuck game. We

482
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<v Speaker 4>win the game, and I'm just thinking about all the

483
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<v Speaker 4>the practice, all the fundamentals, all the things that I've

484
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<v Speaker 4>learned up to that point, and what I've learned so

485
00:24:48.240 --> 00:24:51.000
<v Speaker 4>far at the University of Louisville, just you know, go

486
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<v Speaker 4>out there and you know, play good defense. Know this

487
00:24:54.519 --> 00:24:57.519
<v Speaker 4>guy as a senior, this team is good. We are

488
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<v Speaker 4>on the road. But I was so confident and our

489
00:25:00.960 --> 00:25:03.960
<v Speaker 4>guys because I know the kind of work that we

490
00:25:04.039 --> 00:25:07.880
<v Speaker 4>had put in in practice, We had senior leadership, We

491
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<v Speaker 4>had you guys sophomore I thought, with the best sophomore

492
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<v Speaker 4>group really in the country, because you guys are the

493
00:25:16.240 --> 00:25:19.640
<v Speaker 4>number one recruiting class the year before. So you know,

494
00:25:20.079 --> 00:25:23.440
<v Speaker 4>we went out there and got that w and we

495
00:25:23.519 --> 00:25:26.480
<v Speaker 4>came back home and both Krunk called me in the

496
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<v Speaker 4>office and you know, talked, sent me down and said,

497
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<v Speaker 4>you know, school's going to be out for the rest

498
00:25:31.119 --> 00:25:34.519
<v Speaker 4>of the year. We need you to step up and

499
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<v Speaker 4>be the player that we think you could be. But

500
00:25:38.920 --> 00:25:42.279
<v Speaker 4>it's got to start with your practice habits. And when

501
00:25:42.279 --> 00:25:47.640
<v Speaker 4>I walked out that his office, that was the turning

502
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<v Speaker 4>point not only in my career on the start of

503
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<v Speaker 4>my career at the University of Louisville, but I carried

504
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<v Speaker 4>that that conversation with me until I retired in ninety

505
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<v Speaker 4>two ninety three, that I was going to be physically

506
00:26:02.799 --> 00:26:06.440
<v Speaker 4>in shape, whether the season was going on. I just

507
00:26:06.519 --> 00:26:11.079
<v Speaker 4>kept myself in good condition year round, and when I

508
00:26:11.200 --> 00:26:17.559
<v Speaker 4>experienced things coming more easily on the court as I

509
00:26:17.599 --> 00:26:20.039
<v Speaker 4>got in better shape, I was like, Wow, I can't

510
00:26:20.039 --> 00:26:24.720
<v Speaker 4>believe I did that. It's not you know, it's not hard,

511
00:26:24.799 --> 00:26:28.000
<v Speaker 4>it's just coming natural. And just the light switch came

512
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<v Speaker 4>on and then you know, we went on that magical run.

513
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<v Speaker 4>And the team we had it was just so strong

514
00:26:36.160 --> 00:26:39.759
<v Speaker 4>with very good players that if you were having a

515
00:26:39.759 --> 00:26:42.319
<v Speaker 4>good game, having a bad game and you got substitute,

516
00:26:42.359 --> 00:26:44.079
<v Speaker 4>it was our chance that you might not get a

517
00:26:44.119 --> 00:26:48.400
<v Speaker 4>chance to get back in that game. And how deep

518
00:26:48.480 --> 00:26:55.480
<v Speaker 4>we were and it just built the confidence up and

519
00:26:55.480 --> 00:26:58.279
<v Speaker 4>and me with our team, we had a lot of

520
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<v Speaker 4>guys that went on to play at the next level,

521
00:27:00.359 --> 00:27:03.240
<v Speaker 4>and it was because of the brotherhood that we pushed

522
00:27:03.279 --> 00:27:06.799
<v Speaker 4>each other. We could talk to each other and we

523
00:27:06.880 --> 00:27:11.480
<v Speaker 4>thought that you had more to give and you might

524
00:27:11.519 --> 00:27:14.480
<v Speaker 4>be going through things because it's more than just what

525
00:27:14.519 --> 00:27:17.000
<v Speaker 4>you do on the court. It's you know, being a

526
00:27:17.039 --> 00:27:20.440
<v Speaker 4>family off the court, hanging out together and just it

527
00:27:20.599 --> 00:27:23.279
<v Speaker 4>just brings the best s oide of you, I believe

528
00:27:24.119 --> 00:27:27.720
<v Speaker 4>on the court. So it all started when you know,

529
00:27:27.880 --> 00:27:31.680
<v Speaker 4>got there Uniersha Louisville, and uh, you know, with you

530
00:27:31.839 --> 00:27:34.799
<v Speaker 4>guys at a young age, and we just became a

531
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<v Speaker 4>family and a successful family for the three years we

532
00:27:38.119 --> 00:27:41.039
<v Speaker 4>played together and the four years that I was there.

533
00:27:41.720 --> 00:27:44.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Rodney went to three final fours, you all, I

534
00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:46.920
<v Speaker 1>went to two and then us read Rodney, you'd have

535
00:27:46.920 --> 00:27:48.559
<v Speaker 1>gone to four in a row. People don't know how

536
00:27:48.559 --> 00:27:52.079
<v Speaker 1>good we were and how strong mentally were in Anthony

537
00:27:52.200 --> 00:27:54.200
<v Speaker 1>and Rodney's talking to you all about we could talk

538
00:27:54.240 --> 00:27:56.519
<v Speaker 1>to each other and we weren't always hugging and kissing.

539
00:27:56.799 --> 00:27:58.480
<v Speaker 2>We'll tell each other, you got to pick it up,

540
00:27:58.880 --> 00:28:00.480
<v Speaker 2>get your game going, let's go.

541
00:28:00.680 --> 00:28:03.599
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't oh, you know, we're all the coach is wrong,

542
00:28:03.720 --> 00:28:04.960
<v Speaker 1>and it was none of that.

543
00:28:05.119 --> 00:28:07.000
<v Speaker 2>It was the truth. We used to tell each other

544
00:28:07.480 --> 00:28:08.000
<v Speaker 2>the truth.

545
00:28:08.039 --> 00:28:11.440
<v Speaker 1>We had truthful conversations, and our team was really Rodney,

546
00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:13.000
<v Speaker 1>we were really, really good.

547
00:28:13.279 --> 00:28:14.559
<v Speaker 2>Right, we gotta get to our first break.

548
00:28:14.599 --> 00:28:17.279
<v Speaker 1>When we come back, we're gonna jump into a league

549
00:28:17.279 --> 00:28:19.480
<v Speaker 1>that you played in for ten years at a very

550
00:28:19.519 --> 00:28:22.480
<v Speaker 1>high level. And like I said, I counted Rodney's first

551
00:28:22.480 --> 00:28:26.359
<v Speaker 1>five seasons. Rodney yam is five games and five seasons,

552
00:28:26.359 --> 00:28:29.599
<v Speaker 1>and you got people crying about playing too many games,

553
00:28:30.119 --> 00:28:30.880
<v Speaker 1>and I'm gonna talk to.

554
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<v Speaker 2>You about that after the break. This is EVE Sports Radio.

555
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<v Speaker 1>We have the one and only, my opinion, top three

556
00:28:37.400 --> 00:28:40.160
<v Speaker 1>best player ever to play at University of LOUISVIO because

557
00:28:40.240 --> 00:28:43.799
<v Speaker 1>the multi talented five four, three two one, he could

558
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<v Speaker 1>play all five positions. Rodney McCrae will be back with

559
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<v Speaker 1>us after the break. Welcome back to EVE Sports Radio

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<v Speaker 1>at seven forty one. Of course, it's the twenty first

561
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<v Speaker 1>of May. We have the Rodney McCrae University of Louisville,

562
00:28:55.559 --> 00:28:59.960
<v Speaker 1>great Houston Rocket, great NBA champion with the Chicago Bulls.

563
00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:03.880
<v Speaker 1>There's nothing that Rodney did not accomplish in this Olympian

564
00:29:04.079 --> 00:29:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Everything that could be accomplished basketball wise, Rodney McCrae accomplished,

565
00:29:08.960 --> 00:29:10.079
<v Speaker 1>and that's Rodney.

566
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<v Speaker 2>It's a heckler an accomplishment.

567
00:29:11.359 --> 00:29:13.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna lie to you, but quick story before

568
00:29:13.359 --> 00:29:16.079
<v Speaker 1>I thought to you for the next ten minutes, Anthony,

569
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<v Speaker 1>I'm living in Dallas, Texas, working working five days a week,

570
00:29:19.160 --> 00:29:21.759
<v Speaker 1>not working too hard, but working, and I would go

571
00:29:21.799 --> 00:29:24.680
<v Speaker 1>almost every other weekend to Houston to either watch Houston

572
00:29:24.680 --> 00:29:26.839
<v Speaker 1>play during the winter or in the summertime.

573
00:29:27.079 --> 00:29:28.480
<v Speaker 2>I would go and hang out with.

574
00:29:28.480 --> 00:29:31.640
<v Speaker 1>Roddy and we'd always it was always Anthony wrapped around

575
00:29:31.640 --> 00:29:36.039
<v Speaker 1>a workout we did. That was just who we were. Anthony.

576
00:29:36.079 --> 00:29:38.160
<v Speaker 1>It was probably nineteen eighty seven. I'd been out of

577
00:29:38.160 --> 00:29:39.480
<v Speaker 1>the league or a year or two, had just come

578
00:29:39.480 --> 00:29:42.000
<v Speaker 1>back from the Philippines, and you know, I'm still I'm

579
00:29:42.039 --> 00:29:42.960
<v Speaker 1>in good shape, Anthony.

580
00:29:43.519 --> 00:29:45.359
<v Speaker 2>Rodney says, let's go to the track. Guys.

581
00:29:45.400 --> 00:29:47.000
<v Speaker 1>I want you to know, we're talking about Houston in

582
00:29:47.000 --> 00:29:51.319
<v Speaker 1>the summertime. Let's go to the track. Let's exercise Rodney.

583
00:29:51.319 --> 00:29:53.680
<v Speaker 1>He's Rodney six seven, two thirty.

584
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<v Speaker 2>Anthony.

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00:29:54.240 --> 00:29:57.000
<v Speaker 1>You know I'm still one eighty, in good shape. And

586
00:29:57.119 --> 00:29:59.839
<v Speaker 1>he beats me in a foot race. That's what I quit.

587
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:02.440
<v Speaker 1>He took his Whisper CD and left and went home.

588
00:30:05.839 --> 00:30:07.400
<v Speaker 1>And Anny, I can pick him up, put him down.

589
00:30:07.400 --> 00:30:09.440
<v Speaker 1>Don't get it twisted. I could pick him up. I

590
00:30:09.440 --> 00:30:11.119
<v Speaker 1>never lost a race at Louisville, right, and he never

591
00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:13.160
<v Speaker 1>while he tried to give he never, I never lost one.

592
00:30:13.559 --> 00:30:16.559
<v Speaker 1>But Rodney got me. I said, I'm done. He retired me.

593
00:30:17.000 --> 00:30:19.559
<v Speaker 1>I said, that's when I knew this boy is a superstar.

594
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<v Speaker 1>Talk about preparation that you've done with your body and

595
00:30:22.839 --> 00:30:26.400
<v Speaker 1>these NBA player's mindsets of not wanting to play. Rightney,

596
00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:29.400
<v Speaker 1>you missed five games in five years, what do you think.

597
00:30:29.640 --> 00:30:31.480
<v Speaker 1>You're a great person to tell us what's going on?

598
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<v Speaker 4>Well for me, And during that era, I thought that

599
00:30:39.000 --> 00:30:42.720
<v Speaker 4>everybody in the league goal was to play all eighty

600
00:30:42.759 --> 00:30:45.279
<v Speaker 4>two games. I know that that's what my goal was.

601
00:30:46.160 --> 00:30:49.240
<v Speaker 4>And you know, back in the early eighties and even

602
00:30:49.279 --> 00:30:52.880
<v Speaker 4>at the University of Loisville, we didn't have a strength

603
00:30:52.880 --> 00:30:55.519
<v Speaker 4>and conditioning program. You remember, we used to go to

604
00:30:55.599 --> 00:30:59.599
<v Speaker 4>the track on our own. We had the little universal

605
00:31:00.440 --> 00:31:04.279
<v Speaker 4>weight system that had the different stations on one machine.

606
00:31:04.559 --> 00:31:09.039
<v Speaker 4>So never really was in into the weightlifting that these

607
00:31:09.079 --> 00:31:12.519
<v Speaker 4>guys are a lot of them are pretty much all

608
00:31:12.519 --> 00:31:15.160
<v Speaker 4>of them are doing now with strength and conditioning coaches.

609
00:31:15.240 --> 00:31:20.400
<v Speaker 4>So I did just just simple push ups, did the

610
00:31:20.480 --> 00:31:23.960
<v Speaker 4>sit ups, did the dips. Didn't want to get bulky.

611
00:31:24.519 --> 00:31:26.799
<v Speaker 4>But I did a lot of running. I did a

612
00:31:26.839 --> 00:31:30.559
<v Speaker 4>lot of basketball playing just the normal things.

613
00:31:30.599 --> 00:31:31.640
<v Speaker 2>But I.

614
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<v Speaker 4>Kept true to anytime I played, whether it was back

615
00:31:36.720 --> 00:31:39.480
<v Speaker 4>in u of L in the summer time against the

616
00:31:39.519 --> 00:31:44.200
<v Speaker 4>current U of L players or you some of the

617
00:31:44.240 --> 00:31:46.440
<v Speaker 4>former players before us would come out there and play.

618
00:31:46.519 --> 00:31:52.519
<v Speaker 4>But always pride of myself on keeping the fundamentals, not

619
00:31:52.519 --> 00:31:55.759
<v Speaker 4>getting into bad habits because you know season you're just

620
00:31:55.759 --> 00:31:58.839
<v Speaker 4>playing for fun. You're out there just staying in condition.

621
00:31:59.000 --> 00:32:02.640
<v Speaker 4>You can get some pick up bad habits. So you

622
00:32:02.680 --> 00:32:06.319
<v Speaker 4>know you're playing against left handed, you're sending them right,

623
00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:08.880
<v Speaker 4>you're not letting them go based on the stuff that

624
00:32:08.920 --> 00:32:12.519
<v Speaker 4>we work on in training camp. So but conditioning wise,

625
00:32:12.559 --> 00:32:16.480
<v Speaker 4>it was just we talked about my experience as you

626
00:32:16.920 --> 00:32:21.720
<v Speaker 4>not wanting the practice to just enjoying practice really more

627
00:32:21.759 --> 00:32:25.519
<v Speaker 4>than the games. Because if you can you have success

628
00:32:25.599 --> 00:32:29.359
<v Speaker 4>running your sets, doing things in practice, when everybody in

629
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<v Speaker 4>the gym when we call to play, you know what

630
00:32:31.279 --> 00:32:33.799
<v Speaker 4>the player is coming in a lot of guys play play,

631
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<v Speaker 4>so you kind of you know, like I said, you

632
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<v Speaker 4>have success in practice, you can running and practice you

633
00:32:41.799 --> 00:32:44.559
<v Speaker 4>should be able to run it in the game. But physically,

634
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<v Speaker 4>I just love to work out once I got it

635
00:32:47.319 --> 00:32:51.079
<v Speaker 4>between the ears, and I just you know, you got

636
00:32:51.079 --> 00:32:53.039
<v Speaker 4>a new group of guys coming in because it's a

637
00:32:53.119 --> 00:32:56.440
<v Speaker 4>draft training camp and you got to go each year

638
00:32:56.480 --> 00:33:00.720
<v Speaker 4>for me establish yourself that I'm ready to go day one.

639
00:33:01.559 --> 00:33:05.839
<v Speaker 4>If we were called the player game or October first

640
00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:08.759
<v Speaker 4>or fifteen, whenever training camp started, I was I was

641
00:33:08.799 --> 00:33:11.440
<v Speaker 4>ready to go in game shape in game one. So

642
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<v Speaker 4>I just, you know, as always my mindset that somebody

643
00:33:16.079 --> 00:33:18.319
<v Speaker 4>next year is going to try to, you know, get

644
00:33:18.359 --> 00:33:21.400
<v Speaker 4>you the minutes or get your job. So I just,

645
00:33:21.880 --> 00:33:25.119
<v Speaker 4>you know, love to compete, love to be prepared for

646
00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:28.839
<v Speaker 4>the task at hand, and after experience that first year

647
00:33:28.839 --> 00:33:32.240
<v Speaker 4>in the league that you had no other choice because

648
00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:36.079
<v Speaker 4>the league was tough. That position that I played when

649
00:33:36.119 --> 00:33:38.640
<v Speaker 4>I came into the league, the three spot, and you

650
00:33:38.720 --> 00:33:41.119
<v Speaker 4>looked up at the top league scorers in the league,

651
00:33:41.200 --> 00:33:43.599
<v Speaker 4>it was a bunch of guys that played the three man.

652
00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:46.599
<v Speaker 4>So you really didn't have any nights off, and you couldn't,

653
00:33:47.000 --> 00:33:51.839
<v Speaker 4>you know, you had to be here physically fit year round.

654
00:33:52.039 --> 00:33:55.359
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that's Larry Bird. You had to match up

655
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<v Speaker 1>with Larry And how was that just playing against lay

656
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<v Speaker 1>Bird in the files?

657
00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:00.680
<v Speaker 2>Right?

658
00:34:02.640 --> 00:34:05.640
<v Speaker 4>It was when we when we beat the Lakers. I

659
00:34:05.720 --> 00:34:10.159
<v Speaker 4>remember traveling back and Coach Fitch he would always have

660
00:34:10.280 --> 00:34:14.360
<v Speaker 4>that seat next to him available because when they opened

661
00:34:14.440 --> 00:34:18.519
<v Speaker 4>up the jetway, guys forgot what seat Simon they had.

662
00:34:18.920 --> 00:34:21.360
<v Speaker 4>You come in, you're looking at it, You're sitting in

663
00:34:21.400 --> 00:34:25.320
<v Speaker 4>my seat and there's only one seat left. But coaches

664
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<v Speaker 4>like right now, come on back here and we need

665
00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:32.840
<v Speaker 4>to talk. So we were just talking basketball where we

666
00:34:32.880 --> 00:34:37.440
<v Speaker 4>had just accomplished, and he was like, you know, in

667
00:34:37.559 --> 00:34:40.360
<v Speaker 4>order for us to have a chance that I was

668
00:34:41.400 --> 00:34:46.559
<v Speaker 4>gonna have to do some things in this series. Of course,

669
00:34:46.599 --> 00:34:48.639
<v Speaker 4>it was gonna be a tall task. I knew it.

670
00:34:49.880 --> 00:34:53.280
<v Speaker 4>You knew it. Anybody didn't follow it. The basketball knew it.

671
00:34:53.559 --> 00:34:58.079
<v Speaker 4>For the Celtics during that time. I didn't know until

672
00:34:58.239 --> 00:35:00.559
<v Speaker 4>years later that they regard that team as the best

673
00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:05.719
<v Speaker 4>Celtic team of all time. But Larry Bird, everything you

674
00:35:05.800 --> 00:35:08.559
<v Speaker 4>hear about him in these thirty for thirties you see

675
00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:13.480
<v Speaker 4>clips and stuff, was all that answer, and you know,

676
00:35:13.519 --> 00:35:16.880
<v Speaker 4>you get the things I just can't understand. He's slow,

677
00:35:16.960 --> 00:35:20.320
<v Speaker 4>he can't jump, he can't do this. He's just a

678
00:35:20.360 --> 00:35:25.400
<v Speaker 4>ballplayer that understood the game. If he got a separation,

679
00:35:25.719 --> 00:35:27.480
<v Speaker 4>I don't care. If it was having a step on

680
00:35:27.559 --> 00:35:29.880
<v Speaker 4>you and he got that ball, you get pretty much

681
00:35:29.920 --> 00:35:33.639
<v Speaker 4>counted in. My focus was playing against him. He's gonna

682
00:35:33.639 --> 00:35:35.800
<v Speaker 4>make shots, he's gonna he's gonna get his you know

683
00:35:35.840 --> 00:35:37.960
<v Speaker 4>how we called it. He's gonna get his. But you

684
00:35:38.000 --> 00:35:40.920
<v Speaker 4>can't get frustrated. You just gotta do the best you

685
00:35:40.960 --> 00:35:44.280
<v Speaker 4>can you're not gonna get any help, especially when you

686
00:35:44.400 --> 00:35:47.400
<v Speaker 4>got a LaJuan having the guard, Parish, you got Ralph

687
00:35:47.480 --> 00:35:52.760
<v Speaker 4>having the guard, Kevin McHale, everybody, You're not gonna get

688
00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:55.440
<v Speaker 4>no help. But you know, when we played in the

689
00:35:55.440 --> 00:35:59.679
<v Speaker 4>finals in eighty six, the guy who hurt us was

690
00:35:59.760 --> 00:36:04.239
<v Speaker 4>though Walton. Bill Walton came in and you know that

691
00:36:04.400 --> 00:36:07.920
<v Speaker 4>was two three to two series. In order for us

692
00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:10.280
<v Speaker 4>to have a shot, we needed to win all three

693
00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:13.719
<v Speaker 4>games back here. We went down two, came back home.

694
00:36:13.800 --> 00:36:16.880
<v Speaker 4>We won the first game. The second game we made

695
00:36:16.920 --> 00:36:20.159
<v Speaker 4>a mistake, and when you're playing against teams like Boston,

696
00:36:21.199 --> 00:36:23.679
<v Speaker 4>you can't make mistakes. We made a mistake in the end,

697
00:36:23.920 --> 00:36:26.440
<v Speaker 4>uh where we talked about how we were gonna play

698
00:36:26.440 --> 00:36:30.960
<v Speaker 4>the pick and roll and we got caught. Uh. I

699
00:36:31.079 --> 00:36:33.679
<v Speaker 4>was part of it, myself and elidge On. We got

700
00:36:33.719 --> 00:36:37.519
<v Speaker 4>caught on a switch and we were both to switch

701
00:36:37.559 --> 00:36:42.559
<v Speaker 4>and we didn't and Berg got loose and hit a

702
00:36:43.039 --> 00:36:47.159
<v Speaker 4>hit a jumper and we lost game four. We won

703
00:36:47.239 --> 00:36:49.559
<v Speaker 4>game five and we were back to Boston. And you

704
00:36:49.559 --> 00:36:51.840
<v Speaker 4>know what happened when you when you go to Boston,

705
00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:54.039
<v Speaker 4>you got to play near perfect game just to even

706
00:36:54.039 --> 00:36:58.559
<v Speaker 4>have a chance to win. And but it was the

707
00:36:58.679 --> 00:37:03.599
<v Speaker 4>experience that you know, growing up and watching NBA. I

708
00:37:04.079 --> 00:37:05.840
<v Speaker 4>would say to myself, and I'm sure a lot of

709
00:37:05.880 --> 00:37:08.719
<v Speaker 4>other people would say, why is it always the Celtics

710
00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:11.880
<v Speaker 4>in the Lakers. I'd like to see somebody else in there,

711
00:37:12.039 --> 00:37:16.639
<v Speaker 4>you know, than these two teams. But what it took

712
00:37:16.679 --> 00:37:19.840
<v Speaker 4>to get to the finals three rounds? You know, you

713
00:37:19.960 --> 00:37:22.920
<v Speaker 4>got the three out of five the first year back

714
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:24.760
<v Speaker 4>then it was three out of five. Then you play

715
00:37:24.840 --> 00:37:27.480
<v Speaker 4>the second round and then you go to the Western

716
00:37:27.519 --> 00:37:30.880
<v Speaker 4>Conference final and then you got the finals. And I

717
00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:33.679
<v Speaker 4>was like, wait oooh. I was like, you have to

718
00:37:33.719 --> 00:37:37.840
<v Speaker 4>be a really really good team to be able to

719
00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:40.360
<v Speaker 4>do this year in the year out. So it's just

720
00:37:40.840 --> 00:37:45.119
<v Speaker 4>the respect factor just hit you like a the Celtics,

721
00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:48.679
<v Speaker 4>the Lakers, you know, later on the Bulls, the Pistons,

722
00:37:48.760 --> 00:37:53.320
<v Speaker 4>these guys that win championships, multiple championships. What it takes

723
00:37:53.360 --> 00:37:57.239
<v Speaker 4>to get to the championship. It's grinded, it's grinding, and

724
00:37:57.400 --> 00:38:01.559
<v Speaker 4>you have to, you know, take care of yourself off

725
00:38:01.599 --> 00:38:04.400
<v Speaker 4>the court. You know, you have to sacrifice. So you know,

726
00:38:04.679 --> 00:38:09.119
<v Speaker 4>people will look at the money that's out there that

727
00:38:09.199 --> 00:38:11.719
<v Speaker 4>you get paid, but we put in a lot of work.

728
00:38:11.800 --> 00:38:13.360
<v Speaker 4>We have to. You know, we do a lot of

729
00:38:13.400 --> 00:38:17.760
<v Speaker 4>damage to our bodies, but we stury rewarding. We didn't

730
00:38:17.800 --> 00:38:20.400
<v Speaker 4>know it at the time, but look at all of us.

731
00:38:20.440 --> 00:38:23.039
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I got hit replacement. I need knee replacement.

732
00:38:23.079 --> 00:38:26.280
<v Speaker 4>I need my other hip replace. I just got that news,

733
00:38:26.480 --> 00:38:29.840
<v Speaker 4>you know, last week. So we put a strain on

734
00:38:29.880 --> 00:38:31.400
<v Speaker 4>our bodies. Man, we did.

735
00:38:31.480 --> 00:38:33.440
<v Speaker 1>I've had both my hips and one knee. We did,

736
00:38:33.480 --> 00:38:36.400
<v Speaker 1>but we loved it. Anthney, go ahead, that's Rodney the

737
00:38:36.480 --> 00:38:38.480
<v Speaker 1>last question the other day. I need to I want

738
00:38:38.519 --> 00:38:39.519
<v Speaker 1>to hear his opinion on this.

739
00:38:40.719 --> 00:38:40.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

740
00:38:41.000 --> 00:38:43.920
<v Speaker 3>So I'm just gonna pull some of the stats, even

741
00:38:43.920 --> 00:38:45.880
<v Speaker 3>from your own career. So you paid seven hundred and

742
00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:49.039
<v Speaker 3>sixty eight games in the ten season span. You appeared

743
00:38:49.079 --> 00:38:52.280
<v Speaker 3>in pretty much ninety four percent of your games throughout

744
00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:54.800
<v Speaker 3>your entire career. And something that we brought up is

745
00:38:54.800 --> 00:38:57.119
<v Speaker 3>that Aaron Gordon complained about in an interview once they

746
00:38:57.159 --> 00:38:59.880
<v Speaker 3>lost in their Game seven to Minnesota that they needed

747
00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:02.679
<v Speaker 3>or breaks in between games because they're too tired and fatigued,

748
00:39:03.119 --> 00:39:05.880
<v Speaker 3>and that the competitive scoring and the gas and scoring

749
00:39:05.880 --> 00:39:08.039
<v Speaker 3>would be a lot better. But I know in your area,

750
00:39:08.119 --> 00:39:10.320
<v Speaker 3>y'all didn't have these giant breaks in between games like

751
00:39:10.360 --> 00:39:12.599
<v Speaker 3>they do now two or three games in between each one.

752
00:39:13.360 --> 00:39:15.239
<v Speaker 3>So we're just trying to figure out what's your thought

753
00:39:15.320 --> 00:39:17.519
<v Speaker 3>is on that of what Aaron Gordon said his interview

754
00:39:17.639 --> 00:39:18.639
<v Speaker 3>just about a week ago.

755
00:39:20.320 --> 00:39:23.360
<v Speaker 4>Well you know this, you know, I don't know and

756
00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:28.400
<v Speaker 4>working today game or what I do know is they

757
00:39:28.440 --> 00:39:34.000
<v Speaker 4>get a lot of time off when we travel. We

758
00:39:34.119 --> 00:39:39.880
<v Speaker 4>travel commercial. I played ten years, nine years we traveled commercially.

759
00:39:39.880 --> 00:39:43.360
<v Speaker 4>It wasn't until I got to Chicago that I experienced

760
00:39:43.760 --> 00:39:47.760
<v Speaker 4>charter and I found that out when the first road

761
00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:49.639
<v Speaker 4>trip I was talking to one of the guys. I

762
00:39:49.679 --> 00:39:53.199
<v Speaker 4>was like, Okay, where do we park at Ohio Airport?

763
00:39:53.440 --> 00:39:57.000
<v Speaker 4>And DJ Hosson looked at me like, come on, rob

764
00:39:57.760 --> 00:40:00.800
<v Speaker 4>we trust we go around the backside. We we parked

765
00:40:00.840 --> 00:40:02.840
<v Speaker 4>our car, they take us out to the plane. I

766
00:40:02.920 --> 00:40:06.840
<v Speaker 4>was like, really like yeah, man. He looked at me

767
00:40:06.960 --> 00:40:10.559
<v Speaker 4>like that what championship championship teams do, right.

768
00:40:10.679 --> 00:40:14.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I hate to run, Rodney, We're done. I

769
00:40:14.400 --> 00:40:18.119
<v Speaker 1>can't believe it, Rodney. I gotta get you back, Rodney.

770
00:40:18.159 --> 00:40:18.400
<v Speaker 2>Love you.

771
00:40:18.559 --> 00:40:21.159
<v Speaker 1>Most consistent brother you'll ever meet in your life is

772
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<v Speaker 1>Ridney McCrae e Sports Radio. You'll have a fantastic day.

773
00:40:25.239 --> 00:40:27.559
<v Speaker 1>God will, and I'll be back tomorrow. Bye bye,
