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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Big Blue Insider. Dicka Abrielle with you Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>the eve of game day, and it's kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>Saggi Friday. Maybe a Sagi Saturday as well might not

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<v Speaker 1>be a bad thing for the Wildcats. We all remember

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<v Speaker 1>what happened last time Kentucky played Georgia in the rain

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<v Speaker 1>that was down there in Athens. That was the Lynn

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<v Speaker 1>Boden season, as has come to be called, when he

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<v Speaker 1>was pressed into service as a QB. And it seemed

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<v Speaker 1>maybe not that South Carolina game where he took over

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<v Speaker 1>late and showed what he was about to do, but

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<v Speaker 1>seemed like every game after that was rain. And it

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<v Speaker 1>certainly helped the Wildcats because any team that was inclined

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<v Speaker 1>to throw the ball had to think twice about it

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<v Speaker 1>because remember, it wasn't just rain, it was a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of rain, and for whatever reason, it didn't slow the

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky running attack, not just Lynn Bowden but anybody else

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<v Speaker 1>who ran the football. So now the Belk ball, gorgeous day,

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<v Speaker 1>bright sunshine, crisp weather, and what happened, Well, Bowden got

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<v Speaker 1>his yards on the ground, but then he wins the

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<v Speaker 1>game with a touchdown pass. But I don't think that

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<v Speaker 1>happens on Saturday. I think that Georgia is going to

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<v Speaker 1>come in ready to go, no matter what the weather.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Kentucky will be more ready than it was

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<v Speaker 1>last week. But it might not matter. George is just

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<v Speaker 1>really really good, as you know. So coming up tonight

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<v Speaker 1>we'll hear from Mark Stoops that comes up after our

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<v Speaker 1>first break justin Rowland, Have Cats Illustrated? Will join us.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get his take not just on Kentucky football, but

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<v Speaker 1>on recruiting as well. For basketball. Things have gone well

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<v Speaker 1>for Mark Pope and company. Hallie DeVore from WTVQ to

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<v Speaker 1>new home for SEC football will join us as well.

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<v Speaker 1>She is often at practice conducting interviews with not just

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<v Speaker 1>Stoops but players, and she also was an athlete at

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<v Speaker 1>Northwestern ran track and cross country and in the Pac

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<v Speaker 1>twelve I'm sorry, in the Pac ten which is now

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<v Speaker 1>the Pac twe well as well as the Back ten.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of those Pac twelve teams umed up in the

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<v Speaker 1>Big ten. She did not have to travel the way

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<v Speaker 1>these kids now will have to travel in the Pac ten,

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<v Speaker 1>So I will ask her about that. We'll look back

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<v Speaker 1>on the week and Heroes, fools and Flakes a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit later on. But I want to start with football,

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<v Speaker 1>not college football today, but the pro game, because two

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<v Speaker 1>at Toungue Boloa last night took another wicked shot and

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<v Speaker 1>has been sidelined with a concussion. By coincidence, I was

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<v Speaker 1>in Cincinnati the night that he went down against the Bengals,

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<v Speaker 1>and another odd coincidence, some weeks later, we all know

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<v Speaker 1>what happened Damar Hamlin, who nearly lost his life on

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals playing field. But you know that story. He's

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<v Speaker 1>come all the way back to play football. And not

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<v Speaker 1>only that, he was the guy who tackled tu when

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<v Speaker 1>Tungue of Olio went down with a concussion. It looked

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<v Speaker 1>like a routine tackle, but when you look at the

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<v Speaker 1>slow and it was not Hamlin delivering a helmet to

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<v Speaker 1>helmet blow. It was Tongue of Aloa hitting Hamlin as

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<v Speaker 1>they went down, kind of banged his helmet off Hamlin's chest.

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<v Speaker 1>So he goes down with another concussion, and now the

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<v Speaker 1>discussion is should he keep playing football? Because remember now

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<v Speaker 1>that concussion at Cincinnati last year that had him down

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<v Speaker 1>on the field for quite a while and sideline for

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<v Speaker 1>a while was not his first, but they kind of

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<v Speaker 1>overlooked the first one that year. He had gone down

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<v Speaker 1>in a game earlier, and when he got up, was wobbly,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know where he was, started to walk to the

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<v Speaker 1>wrong huddle, and yet he was cleared by doctors on

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<v Speaker 1>the sideline and they sent him back in. I am

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<v Speaker 1>not an expert, but I've talked to several medical people

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<v Speaker 1>through the years and read things and heard things. This

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<v Speaker 1>much I know about concussions. If you have won one,

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<v Speaker 1>the next one comes just a little easier, and the

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<v Speaker 1>one after that, and God help you the one after that.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's been described to me as a bruise to

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<v Speaker 1>your brain, and in some corners they say you never

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<v Speaker 1>fully recover. And now, of course all the research about

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<v Speaker 1>CTE players taking their own lives, and just recently, the

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<v Speaker 1>widow of Guy Morris, Jackie Morris, posted about the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that Guimo donated his brain to research. And of course

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<v Speaker 1>Guimo late had Alzheimer's late in his life and they

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<v Speaker 1>examined his brain and he had quite a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>evidence of CTE. So this is just a terrible development

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<v Speaker 1>in pro football through the years. I think some of

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<v Speaker 1>it is the fact that they're better at diagnosing it.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in the day they would laugh it off and

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<v Speaker 1>a guy got his belt wrung. Also, the helmets are

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<v Speaker 1>so much better now, so guys can turn them the

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<v Speaker 1>missiles and not think twice about it. But something's got

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<v Speaker 1>to give, and far too often it's the brain. And

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<v Speaker 1>on ESPN this morning, Bart Scott, who was an NFL linebacker,

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<v Speaker 1>played for eleven years but hunging up a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>early because of symptoms he experienced after yet another concussion.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, finally the worries just took over and he

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<v Speaker 1>had to step down for the good of his health.

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<v Speaker 1>But he said, it's just not easy.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody think I retired because my toe right, I had

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<v Speaker 2>reconstructuring surgery on my toe and I left, But really

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<v Speaker 2>it was because, like I started seeing spots and lights,

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<v Speaker 2>I had light sensitivity. I never really shared this with anybody,

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<v Speaker 2>but I feel inclined to do this in this intimate,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, setting that we have, and I didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>what to do, and I was like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>it's time to fold it up. And you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>about the people that's around tool, right, because it's hard

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<v Speaker 2>for him not to make an emotional decision. That's why

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<v Speaker 2>you put people around you, your team that you trust

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<v Speaker 2>with your life and to make lifelong decisions, and you

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<v Speaker 2>give them the information and then you come together and

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<v Speaker 2>you make a collective decision because it can't be a decision.

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<v Speaker 2>And sometimes you know, I regret that I walked away,

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<v Speaker 2>and sometimes you know because.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to live with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you know, leaving a game that you've dedicated your

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<v Speaker 2>entire life to is like a death. I tell people

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<v Speaker 2>all the top mornings have two dogs, right, and you

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what to do. You wake up the next

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<v Speaker 2>day and you're thirty years old, you're twenty years old,

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<v Speaker 2>and you don't know what you want to do with

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of your life. And everything that you have

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<v Speaker 2>done has been defined by being a football player. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's not who you are, it's what you do. But

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<v Speaker 2>all the laws and everything that we've learned and all

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<v Speaker 2>the best qualities of us will learn on the football field,

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<v Speaker 2>how to work with others, how to be accountable, and

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<v Speaker 2>now you're not a part of that. And it's the

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<v Speaker 2>loneliest feeling in the world. That's why we see guys

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<v Speaker 2>and we don't know why guys commit suicide, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>that lonely feeling of being not around anybody and feel

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<v Speaker 2>like you have no worth.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine after you make a decision like that

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<v Speaker 1>and you leave football. Now, I'm retired from the daily

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<v Speaker 1>life of WKYT. But when I retired, I was able

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<v Speaker 1>to move into or keep doing other things like this

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<v Speaker 1>radio show and the SEC network and the UK network.

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<v Speaker 1>But I never had to just stop Cold Turkey, so

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't imagine what it's like, as Bart Scott said,

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<v Speaker 1>to wake up the next day and feel like you

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<v Speaker 1>have no worth. I don't think I would have even

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<v Speaker 1>if I had none of these other projects going, simply

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<v Speaker 1>because I was in television for thirty five years. I

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<v Speaker 1>had had my pill and I don't care who you are.

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<v Speaker 1>As a pro athlete, your career is very likely never

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<v Speaker 1>as long as you hope it would be, because you're

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<v Speaker 1>living a dream. Not saying I wasn't in TV, but

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<v Speaker 1>everything has its ups and downs. But when you're a

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<v Speaker 1>pro football player, you are one of the best in

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<v Speaker 1>the world and you're making great money. You're living the

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<v Speaker 1>life something you dreamed of your entire life, and boom,

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<v Speaker 1>you give it up. And not only do you give

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<v Speaker 1>it up, and I'm sure Bart Scott felt like it

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<v Speaker 1>was taken away from him, and if Tua has to

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<v Speaker 1>hang it up, which you know what, he probably should.

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<v Speaker 1>It's easy for me to say he's set for life financially,

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<v Speaker 1>but still he's got to feel like the game is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be taken away from him, but for the

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<v Speaker 1>sake of himself his family. I don't know what his

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<v Speaker 1>family situation's like, but I guarantee he's not alone in

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<v Speaker 1>life right now. It's just too dangerous. And you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>if you know anything about him, and I've read about him,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never met the man, but he is incredibly well liked.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, after last night's game the Bills beat the Dolphins,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what Josh Allen said on Amazon Primes broadcast.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I think if you know too outside of football,

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<v Speaker 4>like you do, like I do, you can't help but

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<v Speaker 4>feel for him. He is in a great football player,

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<v Speaker 4>but he's an even greater human being. He's one of

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<v Speaker 4>the best humans on the planet. You know, I got

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of love for him, and I'm just praying

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<v Speaker 4>for him and his family and hoping everything's okay. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it's tough, man. This is this game of football that

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<v Speaker 4>we play. It's got it ties and it's got its lows,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's definitely one of the lows.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's Bill's quarterback. Josh Allen on Amazon Prime Sticking

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<v Speaker 1>with a TV. We talked a little bit this week

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<v Speaker 1>about Tom Brady's debut, and again it was you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody said the same thing about it. Paul fine

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<v Speaker 1>Baum destroyed him by praising when he was praising Nick Saban,

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<v Speaker 1>And of course fine Bomb'm a huge fan of Saban

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<v Speaker 1>in Alabama, so you expect him to be a complimentary

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<v Speaker 1>of Saban, and he did so at the expense of Brady.

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<v Speaker 1>He talked about Saban, called him analytical and precise on

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<v Speaker 1>ESPN's College Game Day show, and he talked about Tom

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<v Speaker 1>Brady and said he had to watch him stumble, fumble

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<v Speaker 1>and waste the audience's time, but Hackney cliches and tempered

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<v Speaker 1>comments when good, well founded experience and opinion would suffice

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<v Speaker 1>has been fascinating. He said, I don't think Nick Saban

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<v Speaker 1>could be off to a better start, and that's true,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not fair. And I don't know fine Bomb

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<v Speaker 1>at all. I mean, I respect his work, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>always agree with him, and I don't agree with him here.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he's right, Sabin was better than Brady. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's apples and pineapples. What was Sabin doing and he

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<v Speaker 1>was really good? What was he doing? I'm watching him

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<v Speaker 1>and I realized, he's breaking down film. He's coaching us,

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<v Speaker 1>he's coaching the guys on the set, he's coaching the audience.

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<v Speaker 1>Why because that's what he's good at. That's what he's

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<v Speaker 1>done his entire career. He was, as they say, breaking

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<v Speaker 1>down film. It's video, I know, but he was breaking

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<v Speaker 1>down film. And he's a good talker. He's been interviewed

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<v Speaker 1>a thousand times, a million times, as says Brady. But

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<v Speaker 1>what was Brady doing. Brady was generating original thought and

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<v Speaker 1>reacting and responding live on the air. If Brady had

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<v Speaker 1>been standing up in front of a whiteboard or had

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<v Speaker 1>been preparing, you know, since Friday to talk about certain

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<v Speaker 1>plays on VITI, you don't think Saban rehearsed. Of course

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<v Speaker 1>he did. He prepared, so did Brady, but he prepared

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<v Speaker 1>by doing practice games. But what he was doing was

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<v Speaker 1>But now if you're the person breaking it down and

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<v Speaker 1>hackneyed cliche, which no one should ever do. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>that way too many times. Brady's gonna get better. Will

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<v Speaker 1>he be great? I don't know. John Madden wasn't great

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<v Speaker 1>when he started. He's considered one of the all time best.

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<v Speaker 1>He was unique, So really unfair, I think a fine

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<v Speaker 1>baumb because Brady and Saban were doing two entirely different jobs. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Saban maybe he could sit down in a booth and

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<v Speaker 1>A little bit later, justin Roland here on six thirty WLAP.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back coming up in just a few minutes, justin

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<v Speaker 1>Rowland of Cats Illustrated. We'll talk Kentucky football and basketball recruiting,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course it's Kentucky Georgia coming up tomorrow night,

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<v Speaker 1>a game you will hear right here on six thirty WLAP.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll open with our celebrity broadcaster, let's call him that,

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<v Speaker 1>Rich Brooks will open the broadcast, as we have had

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Ransdell in week number one, Jojo Kemp opened up

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<v Speaker 1>last week's broadcast and Rich Brooks, who we heard from

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<v Speaker 1>last night on the show. Two of his teams beat

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<v Speaker 1>those Georgia Bulldogs, including twenty oh six when the Wildcats

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<v Speaker 1>Jeremy Jarman, and Logan Stenberg with our pregame coverage as

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<v Speaker 1>Mark stoop sends his team out after another really good

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<v Speaker 1>Georgia ball club and Stoops was talking in practice after

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<v Speaker 1>practice just yesterday about the fact that they went back

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<v Speaker 1>to work this week. They just tried to clean things

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<v Speaker 1>and really hone in on some things that the Wildcats

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<v Speaker 1>let get away last week. They got to nail it

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<v Speaker 5>Practice is practice. We have to be able to carry

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<v Speaker 5>that over to the field. Therefore, you have to watch

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<v Speaker 5>that we can handle what we're bringing to the game plan,

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<v Speaker 5>and the players have that focus, you know, throughout the

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<v Speaker 5>week to understand what we're trying to get accomplished and why,

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, hopefully we'll make some growth in that area.

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<v Speaker 1>You might recall an opening night a two quarters plus

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky scored thirty one, held USM scoreless, but it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>and according to Stoops, a lot of it was pre

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<v Speaker 5>We can't make growth if we're just worrying about, you

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<v Speaker 5>know what the pre snap you know, I mean we

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<v Speaker 5>be you know, too consumed with that to not be

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<v Speaker 5>able to execute. And I thought that was, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>that was an issue last week. And we'll improve as

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<v Speaker 5>year goes on and as they get more comfortable, because

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<v Speaker 5>of things that are used to and then you throw

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<v Speaker 1>And again, they may be a lot better this week,

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<v Speaker 1>but it may not show on the scoreboard. We heard

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<v Speaker 1>from Brock Vandergrift, the former Georgia Bulldog yesterday and of

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<v Speaker 1>course on the defensive side, Jamon Johnson, a former Georgia Bulldog,

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<v Speaker 1>and naturally the media gravitated to him as well as Brock.

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<v Speaker 1>Talking about going up against his former teammates, he said

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<v Speaker 1>he still communicates with him. He said a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>times he goes back to Georgia, back to Athens when

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<v Speaker 1>he asks free time to be with his guys. But

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't really feel like he has to go out and

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<v Speaker 1>prove anything to his former teammates. He just wants to

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<v Speaker 1>go out and play, play hard and win. And Stoops

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I already deal didn't prove myself ready, but I

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<v Speaker 6>don't think of it like that. It's just another game

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<v Speaker 6>to get better. Another game. Try to win the ball

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<v Speaker 6>game another game while they didn't play, man, just playball,

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<v Speaker 6>do your job and play as hard as you can.

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<v Speaker 6>Pay it to one hundred percent and at the game,

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<v Speaker 7>Man.

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<v Speaker 6>It ain't nothing you can do. Last week was last week,

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<v Speaker 5>He's just a ballplayer, you know. I've said that his

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<v Speaker 5>puts his head down and plays football. You know, he

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<v Speaker 1>Ball, basic football. But you gotta think there'll be a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit extra when both Vandergriff and Pops they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really like to be called Pops anymore, but Johnson come

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<v Speaker 1>out and to see those Georgia Bulldogs and the Silver

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<v Speaker 1>before kickoff. So you'll see it tomorrow. You're here tomorrow

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<v Speaker 1>off seven thirty five thirty broadcast time here on the

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<v Speaker 1>UK Sports Network. Belated Happy Birthday to Mark Pope, the

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<v Speaker 1>UK basketball coach. His birthday was actually a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>days ago. A happy birthday today to my brother Charlie.

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<v Speaker 1>Yesterday was my sister Peggy's birthday, so big week for birthdays.

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<v Speaker 1>I got one coming up soon, but we thought we

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<v Speaker 1>would go back and revisit a moment from when Stoops

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<v Speaker 1>it was catch classic put up video of Mark Pope

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<v Speaker 1>hitting the free throws that basically locked down the win

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<v Speaker 1>over Syracuse. This is the CBS Sports audio as Jim

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<v Speaker 1>hear Jim Nance from nineteen ninety six as Mark Pope

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<v Speaker 1>hit the two biggest free throws of his life to

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<v Speaker 1>help the Wildcats nail down and win over Syracuse in

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<v Speaker 8>Now those people in Kentucky and really starts to feel it,

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<v Speaker 8>the great support they have for their basketball team and

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<v Speaker 1>For so many years.

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<v Speaker 8>Pope first though seventeen fouls in Syracuse as a critical

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<v Speaker 8>one on one. The problem is who will Syracuse have

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<v Speaker 8>as it's got to guy at the other end, Hope,

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<v Speaker 8>who was a Rhodes Scholar candidate and the former Pac

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<v Speaker 9>Of Washington.

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<v Speaker 8>SPATA don with a salute and Kentucky up seven with

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<v Speaker 1>And I asked Mark Pope about that. You might recall

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<v Speaker 1>I asked him about that moment during the interviews that

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<v Speaker 1>the story about what was going through his mind when

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<v Speaker 1>he hit those shots. And you told me, I knew

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<v Speaker 1>if I didn't hit those free throws, I could never

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<v Speaker 1>come back to Kentucky again. Here you are, But how

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<v Speaker 1>much is being a part of that championship team going

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<v Speaker 10>So we have time, can I tell this story? So, so, guys,

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<v Speaker 10>we're playing Syracuse to the National Championship, right and there's

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<v Speaker 3>And really, the.

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<v Speaker 10>Only meaningful play that I made in my entire I

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<v Speaker 3>The only meaningful player made my.

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<v Speaker 10>Entire career Syracuse pushing the ball down the floor and

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<v Speaker 10>I kind of trip and fall into a pass and

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<v Speaker 10>deflected and they give me a foul. And so that's

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<v Speaker 10>how good I was so so it happened right down

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<v Speaker 10>there in the meadowlands. But that's why on the court,

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<v Speaker 10>and I started walking from there to the free throw line.

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<v Speaker 10>I don't know, it's fifty seconds. Someone looking up, there's

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<v Speaker 10>maybe up five. And there was only one thought.

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<v Speaker 3>This is, honestly the truth.

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<v Speaker 10>I wasn't thinking about form or team or celebration or score.

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<v Speaker 5>I literally was walking and.

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<v Speaker 10>I promised, this is your shoe. The only thought that

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<v Speaker 10>came into my mind was if I don't make this,

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<v Speaker 10>they are going to kill me. And who won't want that.

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<v Speaker 10>That's why we're here, guys, That's what we do, So

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<v Speaker 10>that's that's important.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course he was referring to the guys as

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<v Speaker 1>former teammates and former wild Cats in general. They were

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<v Speaker 1>Not really, but that's what kind of pressure you put

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<v Speaker 1>after practice every day would shoot free throws, telling himself,

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<v Speaker 1>for the big trophy. Things like that, and when he

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<v Speaker 1>So young, Still just a kid, all right? When we

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<v Speaker 1>welcome back to the Big Moonsider joining us now in

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<v Speaker 1>a celebrity hotline. Justin Rowland of Cat Illustrated Between work

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<v Speaker 1>and kids and all. We having a chance to chat

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<v Speaker 1>with Justin for a while. How are you, sir?

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<v Speaker 7>I'm great, Dick always a player here to come on, man,

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<v Speaker 7>talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>Today we do, indeed, both football and basketball, because recruiting

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<v Speaker 1>But let us first talk about the tough one Kentucky

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<v Speaker 1>Georgia tomorrow. Georgia is really good, Kentucky is struggling. I mean,

419
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<v Speaker 1>what has to happen tomorrow for Mark Stoops to at

420
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<v Speaker 1>least call Saturday something of a success because it's gonna

421
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<v Speaker 1>be tough.

422
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<v Speaker 7>Yeah. I mean, I think what fans should do is

423
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<v Speaker 7>to separate last week from this week. You know, you

424
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<v Speaker 7>hope that performance you saw last week against South Carolina

425
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<v Speaker 7>was a one off, but you might not know because

426
00:23:13.160 --> 00:23:16.720
<v Speaker 7>Georgia can do terrible things to just about anybody, and

427
00:23:17.000 --> 00:23:19.279
<v Speaker 7>they have so many ways to attack you. So I

428
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<v Speaker 7>would say, if Kentucky can make Georgia sweat, if they

429
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<v Speaker 7>can make it somewhat respectable going into the second half,

430
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<v Speaker 7>if they could maybe put a touchdown drive together. I mean,

431
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<v Speaker 7>these are things that not everybody does. And Clinston had

432
00:23:32.079 --> 00:23:33.759
<v Speaker 7>three points, and Clinston could turn off to be a

433
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<v Speaker 7>really good team. So you got to look for success

434
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<v Speaker 7>on different levels against a team like this.

435
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<v Speaker 1>Well, what has to happen if you're Kentucky to make

436
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<v Speaker 1>that happen.

437
00:23:42.359 --> 00:23:44.400
<v Speaker 7>But they got a block better upfront. That's that's a

438
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<v Speaker 7>big part of it. Here's a hard thing I think

439
00:23:47.039 --> 00:23:49.839
<v Speaker 7>when when you're bush Handen and you're looking at how

440
00:23:49.880 --> 00:23:52.400
<v Speaker 7>do I attack this Georgia defense. Even if you had

441
00:23:52.480 --> 00:23:55.759
<v Speaker 7>a great offensive line, it's still going to be an

442
00:23:55.799 --> 00:23:58.799
<v Speaker 7>extremely difficult team to move the ball again, And when

443
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<v Speaker 7>you look at how those tackles and those guards didn't

444
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<v Speaker 7>hold up in pass protection last week, you've got to

445
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<v Speaker 7>figure they're going to be holding back a lot of

446
00:24:05.759 --> 00:24:08.359
<v Speaker 7>tight ends, a lot of back to block and to

447
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<v Speaker 7>protect van Neigrifts. Because that went off the rails and

448
00:24:11.640 --> 00:24:13.839
<v Speaker 7>so it's going to be hard to get open. I think, fuck,

449
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<v Speaker 7>he's going to have to run the ball, Run the ball,

450
00:24:15.960 --> 00:24:18.519
<v Speaker 7>run the ball. A couple of these old fashioned Scoots

451
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<v Speaker 7>Kirby games where it was just kind of a slug fest,

452
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<v Speaker 7>it seemed to fit fourteen to three, twenty one to nothing.

453
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<v Speaker 7>That's kind of probably what you're hoping as opposed to

454
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<v Speaker 7>Carson Beck, you know, throwing for three hundred and fifty

455
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<v Speaker 7>yards in five touchdowns, what he can do against anybodys.

456
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<v Speaker 7>So maybe it'll be a game that's played closer to

457
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<v Speaker 7>the des by by both teams. I think a lot

458
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<v Speaker 7>of Georgia few people are expecting Kirby to play this

459
00:24:39.920 --> 00:24:42.039
<v Speaker 7>and closer to the fest, so that in of itself

460
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<v Speaker 7>would make it a little more respectful.

461
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<v Speaker 1>Leason, why do you think they expect Kirby just to

462
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<v Speaker 1>kind of hide things from people?

463
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<v Speaker 7>Well, the weather, the weather's been up in the air.

464
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<v Speaker 7>You're going on the road in your first SEC road game,

465
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<v Speaker 7>and you just look at how Georgia has played in

466
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<v Speaker 7>Lexington in the past. It's not a game where they

467
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<v Speaker 7>go in and they try to sling the ball around

468
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<v Speaker 7>the yard. Kirby has always had a lot of respect

469
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<v Speaker 7>for Kentucky's physicality under Mark Stoops, and I think he

470
00:25:10.519 --> 00:25:12.880
<v Speaker 7>just knows he doesn't have to show a lot. That's

471
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<v Speaker 7>not knock on Kentucky, but Kentucky Understoops has tried to

472
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<v Speaker 7>basically beat Georgia light. And you don't beat Georgia by

473
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<v Speaker 7>being Georgia light. And that's kind of the opposite situation

474
00:25:23.039 --> 00:25:25.759
<v Speaker 7>that George has had against Alabama. Georgia has tried to

475
00:25:25.839 --> 00:25:29.039
<v Speaker 7>do Alabama better than Alabama's done Alabama if they haven't

476
00:25:29.039 --> 00:25:33.440
<v Speaker 7>often had success doing that. But you know it both

477
00:25:33.440 --> 00:25:35.160
<v Speaker 7>seems to commit to running the ball. It could be

478
00:25:35.319 --> 00:25:36.279
<v Speaker 7>a more interesting game.

479
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<v Speaker 1>Can I assume you sat with Dismay watching last week?

480
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that was a total shock to I got

481
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<v Speaker 1>to think justin it was a surprise to South Carolina

482
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<v Speaker 1>people because I know some folks who on the South

483
00:25:49.440 --> 00:25:54.680
<v Speaker 1>Carolina side, fans and media included, who expected Kentucky to win,

484
00:25:55.440 --> 00:25:57.519
<v Speaker 1>maybe not in a blowout, but win handily. And it

485
00:25:57.599 --> 00:25:59.359
<v Speaker 1>was exact opposite.

486
00:26:00.039 --> 00:26:02.680
<v Speaker 7>Sownth Carolina has some real dudes on that front. So

487
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<v Speaker 7>I mean, here's a hard thing. They might get to

488
00:26:05.160 --> 00:26:06.920
<v Speaker 7>the end the season only have five or six wins.

489
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<v Speaker 7>We don't know, but we know they have a lot

490
00:26:09.880 --> 00:26:12.880
<v Speaker 7>of athletes on their front seven. And knowing what we

491
00:26:12.880 --> 00:26:15.960
<v Speaker 7>know about Kentucky's offensive line, now the questions that we

492
00:26:16.039 --> 00:26:18.599
<v Speaker 7>now have, you can see how that matchup would dip

493
00:26:18.640 --> 00:26:21.160
<v Speaker 7>it in that direction, but they can really get after it.

494
00:26:21.200 --> 00:26:23.319
<v Speaker 7>And you see how Beamer has recruited and how you

495
00:26:23.400 --> 00:26:27.240
<v Speaker 7>recruit the qortal not just Dylan Stewart the freshman, but

496
00:26:27.319 --> 00:26:31.480
<v Speaker 7>also Kyle Kinnard and those defensive tackles that came back.

497
00:26:31.559 --> 00:26:35.160
<v Speaker 7>It was a bad matchup for Kentucky and there's probably

498
00:26:35.200 --> 00:26:36.960
<v Speaker 7>some things they could have done differently as well. They

499
00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:39.160
<v Speaker 7>could have got to the run that the one quarter

500
00:26:39.200 --> 00:26:42.200
<v Speaker 7>they ran nineteen times and passed once. The second quarter

501
00:26:42.240 --> 00:26:45.519
<v Speaker 7>they won sixty three. So be interesting to see if

502
00:26:45.519 --> 00:26:48.279
<v Speaker 7>the offensive line continues to regguling pass protection and SUPs

503
00:26:48.279 --> 00:26:49.799
<v Speaker 7>has to think about maybe going back to the old

504
00:26:49.839 --> 00:26:50.559
<v Speaker 7>Lady Grant proach.

505
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<v Speaker 1>Well, you are right and that South Caroline has got dues,

506
00:26:53.400 --> 00:26:57.720
<v Speaker 1>But buddy, in the SEC, everybody's got dues. Right, What

507
00:26:57.759 --> 00:27:01.359
<v Speaker 1>did we learn about the old line Saturday that maybe

508
00:27:01.359 --> 00:27:02.440
<v Speaker 1>we didn't know going in?

509
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<v Speaker 7>I mean, the problem is like you could see South

510
00:27:06.920 --> 00:27:10.759
<v Speaker 7>Carolina identify weaknesses in real time and attack those weaknesses,

511
00:27:10.799 --> 00:27:13.039
<v Speaker 7>and Kentucky did not have the number of answers to

512
00:27:13.079 --> 00:27:15.240
<v Speaker 7>counter that. So when Infty Crease is in the game,

513
00:27:15.240 --> 00:27:19.480
<v Speaker 7>it tackle Dylan Ray in the game, they overloaded that side.

514
00:27:20.200 --> 00:27:22.759
<v Speaker 7>Prese struggled in pass protection, and then they had three

515
00:27:22.839 --> 00:27:27.079
<v Speaker 7>guys blocking to protect Vandergris right side, and Dylan Stewart,

516
00:27:27.079 --> 00:27:29.160
<v Speaker 7>the freshman, still chases him down out of the pocket

517
00:27:29.240 --> 00:27:32.920
<v Speaker 7>court to the solway. So they've got to roll the pocket.

518
00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:36.880
<v Speaker 7>They have to identify the one or two real trouble

519
00:27:36.920 --> 00:27:40.119
<v Speaker 7>spots and just compensate for that. The problem is against Georgia,

520
00:27:40.119 --> 00:27:42.799
<v Speaker 7>when you start leaving extra guys back to block, it

521
00:27:42.920 --> 00:27:45.160
<v Speaker 7>was almost impossible to find open field to throw to.

522
00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:47.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, we keep looking back on the Big Blue Wall,

523
00:27:48.680 --> 00:27:53.279
<v Speaker 1>and that was in three out of five spots NFL ready,

524
00:27:53.319 --> 00:27:55.880
<v Speaker 1>and the other two guys at least were in NFL camps.

525
00:27:56.200 --> 00:27:59.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm wondering, Justin, is an unfair of us to expect

526
00:28:00.039 --> 00:28:03.759
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky to play back to that level because that was

527
00:28:03.799 --> 00:28:08.799
<v Speaker 1>almost unpreceded. Unprecedented when it comes to a Kentucky offensive line,

528
00:28:08.839 --> 00:28:09.440
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean.

529
00:28:10.880 --> 00:28:14.680
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, the state hasn't produced the number of offensive linemen

530
00:28:14.720 --> 00:28:19.319
<v Speaker 7>that you wanted it to capitalize on that success, because

531
00:28:19.359 --> 00:28:22.440
<v Speaker 7>then Ohio State gets Ryan Day and they start recruiting

532
00:28:22.440 --> 00:28:24.960
<v Speaker 7>Ohio more, taking more Ohio linemen. This is the same

533
00:28:25.000 --> 00:28:28.160
<v Speaker 7>time Jim Harbaugh is that Michigan taken more Ohio linemen

534
00:28:29.000 --> 00:28:31.880
<v Speaker 7>and Tennessee is on the come up, and so recruiting

535
00:28:31.920 --> 00:28:34.559
<v Speaker 7>there gets harder. It's just a convergence of circumstances. And

536
00:28:34.599 --> 00:28:37.839
<v Speaker 7>also so many offensive line coaches in a short period

537
00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:40.880
<v Speaker 7>of time, so much offensive coordinator turnover. It's the nil

538
00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:44.920
<v Speaker 7>Portal era, so continuity development has just been lacking. My

539
00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:47.680
<v Speaker 7>opinion is the line should have been better than it

540
00:28:47.759 --> 00:28:50.319
<v Speaker 7>was last week. For sure, no question that can't happen.

541
00:28:50.960 --> 00:28:54.559
<v Speaker 7>But I wonder if they went into this season resting

542
00:28:54.599 --> 00:28:57.680
<v Speaker 7>on their laurels a little bit. I'm not singling guys out,

543
00:28:57.720 --> 00:29:00.640
<v Speaker 7>but thinking that they were good in certain when they

544
00:29:00.680 --> 00:29:03.319
<v Speaker 7>were really just kind of mad. I mean, Jagger has

545
00:29:03.359 --> 00:29:06.400
<v Speaker 7>had bright moments, but he has struggled. I think Jalen Farmer,

546
00:29:06.440 --> 00:29:08.599
<v Speaker 7>they expected to come in and be a great sec

547
00:29:08.759 --> 00:29:10.640
<v Speaker 7>starting guard, but he had never been that before. And

548
00:29:10.720 --> 00:29:13.880
<v Speaker 7>Gerald Mincy had starting experience, but he wasn't going to

549
00:29:13.880 --> 00:29:15.759
<v Speaker 7>be a starter at Tennessee. Or Florida, where he had

550
00:29:15.799 --> 00:29:20.519
<v Speaker 7>previously been. So you see, it's really hard to rebuild

551
00:29:20.559 --> 00:29:23.559
<v Speaker 7>an offensive line if you get bad on the offensive one,

552
00:29:23.640 --> 00:29:27.079
<v Speaker 7>it's really hard to do. And so they're trying trying

553
00:29:27.079 --> 00:29:27.920
<v Speaker 7>to dig out of that hole.

554
00:29:28.640 --> 00:29:30.759
<v Speaker 1>Well, you go back to where I think it all started,

555
00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:33.200
<v Speaker 1>when they moved Bunchie over to guard. They put Drake

556
00:29:33.240 --> 00:29:37.079
<v Speaker 1>into starting job at center. He's local, Bunchie was a

557
00:29:37.160 --> 00:29:39.279
<v Speaker 1>nice player. I don't know that anybody expected him to

558
00:29:39.279 --> 00:29:43.799
<v Speaker 1>be an All American And Drake became an SEC center

559
00:29:43.799 --> 00:29:47.240
<v Speaker 1>as good as anybody in the league. So, yeah, they've

560
00:29:47.319 --> 00:29:49.880
<v Speaker 1>just got to dig those guys up. And it's easier

561
00:29:49.880 --> 00:29:52.200
<v Speaker 1>said than done, isn't it. You know about recruiting as

562
00:29:52.200 --> 00:29:55.799
<v Speaker 1>well as anybody.

563
00:29:53.839 --> 00:29:55.640
<v Speaker 7>Let's say a lot of this you just don't know

564
00:29:55.799 --> 00:29:57.440
<v Speaker 7>how it's going to play out until you see it.

565
00:29:57.480 --> 00:29:59.119
<v Speaker 7>Like who knew Luke Luke Cortner is going to be

566
00:29:59.160 --> 00:30:02.160
<v Speaker 7>a second round pick? Yeah, yes, moving over and Eric

567
00:30:02.200 --> 00:30:04.759
<v Speaker 7>Wolford moved in there. That was Eric Wolford who took

568
00:30:04.880 --> 00:30:07.119
<v Speaker 7>kind of the guy who was lesser Nolim than Drake

569
00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:09.640
<v Speaker 7>Jackson and Landon Young and turned him into a second

570
00:30:09.720 --> 00:30:12.400
<v Speaker 7>round pick after one season at center, so Wolford has

571
00:30:12.400 --> 00:30:17.920
<v Speaker 7>the track record of building an offensive line. But I

572
00:30:17.960 --> 00:30:20.359
<v Speaker 7>guess the promising thing is there are some younger guys

573
00:30:20.400 --> 00:30:22.440
<v Speaker 7>they seem excited about. They seem to think that if

574
00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:26.079
<v Speaker 7>Amfony Creast can stop leaning in pass protection, then he

575
00:30:26.119 --> 00:30:27.880
<v Speaker 7>can be a really nice big body for him. And

576
00:30:27.920 --> 00:30:31.200
<v Speaker 7>Malachi Woods looks a lot more ready than he was

577
00:30:31.240 --> 00:30:33.400
<v Speaker 7>when he got to Kentucky and have a Selm and

578
00:30:33.519 --> 00:30:36.839
<v Speaker 7>somebody who could provide depth on the interior. But it's

579
00:30:36.880 --> 00:30:40.160
<v Speaker 7>just like you're moving at a glacial page when you're

580
00:30:40.160 --> 00:30:43.119
<v Speaker 7>developing offensive lineman. You're talking about guys that need to

581
00:30:43.400 --> 00:30:45.880
<v Speaker 7>need to develop for like one, two, even three years

582
00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:47.119
<v Speaker 7>sometimes before they're ready.

583
00:30:47.480 --> 00:30:49.720
<v Speaker 1>Justin Rowland, as my guess, we'll come back and talk

584
00:30:49.759 --> 00:30:53.480
<v Speaker 1>about Kentucky recruiting on the basketball side. On the other

585
00:30:53.519 --> 00:30:56.319
<v Speaker 1>side of the break here we're talking with Justin Rowland

586
00:30:56.319 --> 00:31:00.759
<v Speaker 1>of Cats Illustrated and the basketball Wildcats. That season's coming

587
00:31:00.799 --> 00:31:03.680
<v Speaker 1>out as fast, but recruiting season has been good to

588
00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:07.240
<v Speaker 1>the Wildcats. How a huge It's kind of an obvious question,

589
00:31:07.319 --> 00:31:10.720
<v Speaker 1>but getting Jasper Johnson getting the local not just that,

590
00:31:11.599 --> 00:31:14.720
<v Speaker 1>Justin but turning him around apparently was heading for either

591
00:31:14.720 --> 00:31:17.240
<v Speaker 1>Alabama or North Carolina, depending on who you're talking to.

592
00:31:17.359 --> 00:31:19.519
<v Speaker 1>But that makes it even bigger, doesn't it.

593
00:31:20.559 --> 00:31:23.079
<v Speaker 7>It does, And you know, somebody could look at this

594
00:31:23.160 --> 00:31:26.559
<v Speaker 7>and say, well, he's a kid from the state, and

595
00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:28.519
<v Speaker 7>so of course he should go to Kentucky right on

596
00:31:28.519 --> 00:31:30.920
<v Speaker 7>the heels of Keller. But if you think about it

597
00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:35.400
<v Speaker 7>another way, kind of what Pope is selling at Kentucky

598
00:31:35.640 --> 00:31:37.759
<v Speaker 7>is what like Nate Oaks is kind of already doing

599
00:31:38.039 --> 00:31:40.599
<v Speaker 7>at Alabama. Yeah, so there is kind of a leap

600
00:31:40.640 --> 00:31:43.240
<v Speaker 7>of faith on Jasper's part to say, yeah, I think

601
00:31:43.319 --> 00:31:45.880
<v Speaker 7>I believe in what Mark Pope is saying, and I'm

602
00:31:46.000 --> 00:31:47.599
<v Speaker 7>entrusted in my future to him when I've got one

603
00:31:47.680 --> 00:31:49.319
<v Speaker 7>or two years to springboard where i want to be.

604
00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:52.160
<v Speaker 7>And so I obviously locked him down. That was big time.

605
00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:54.079
<v Speaker 7>I don't know if he's a guy you want to

606
00:31:54.119 --> 00:31:57.000
<v Speaker 7>like hand the keys to and be the guy right away,

607
00:31:57.039 --> 00:31:59.319
<v Speaker 7>but I don't think that's the era we're in at

608
00:31:59.359 --> 00:32:01.559
<v Speaker 7>Kentucky right now. So you can keep him in the

609
00:32:01.599 --> 00:32:03.359
<v Speaker 7>program for a couple of years. He could be a

610
00:32:03.400 --> 00:32:04.359
<v Speaker 7>great offensive peace one.

611
00:32:04.480 --> 00:32:06.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't think we've talked about Malachai Moreno, since you

612
00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:10.119
<v Speaker 1>and I chatted last and again, another great get local

613
00:32:10.559 --> 00:32:12.559
<v Speaker 1>and a big who's going to take a little more time.

614
00:32:12.559 --> 00:32:15.799
<v Speaker 1>But he's he's probably more skilled than people think, isn't he.

615
00:32:17.079 --> 00:32:19.319
<v Speaker 7>I think so? I think he's skilled. You can make

616
00:32:19.359 --> 00:32:21.519
<v Speaker 7>the case he's one of the best centers in the

617
00:32:21.559 --> 00:32:24.319
<v Speaker 7>class and he's got length and his skill set. When

618
00:32:24.359 --> 00:32:27.240
<v Speaker 7>you when you think about how he could develop, seems

619
00:32:27.240 --> 00:32:29.359
<v Speaker 7>like he could be a great fit for what Pope

620
00:32:29.400 --> 00:32:33.599
<v Speaker 7>wants to do with the passing and whatnot. So Pope

621
00:32:33.640 --> 00:32:35.839
<v Speaker 7>came in talking about a new approach, a new era,

622
00:32:35.880 --> 00:32:38.200
<v Speaker 7>and it seems like with his class, that's exactly what

623
00:32:38.240 --> 00:32:41.759
<v Speaker 7>he's doing. Maybe not the top five, top ten players,

624
00:32:41.799 --> 00:32:43.759
<v Speaker 7>but those guys aren't going to final fours. It's the

625
00:32:44.319 --> 00:32:47.240
<v Speaker 7>high four star low five stars that stick around and

626
00:32:47.279 --> 00:32:50.920
<v Speaker 7>stick around and developed and maybe don't hit right away,

627
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<v Speaker 7>but you get the payoff later on. That's that's kind

628
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<v Speaker 7>of what Pope is loading up on right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Timing is everything in sports. We all know that Pope

630
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<v Speaker 1>comes in pledges to build the program a certain way,

631
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<v Speaker 1>and right out of the shoot justin he's able to

632
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<v Speaker 1>snag two locals. I don't know how long they'll be here,

633
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<v Speaker 1>but there's a chance that they can help him with

634
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<v Speaker 1>a foundation at his program. I mean, he worked his

635
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<v Speaker 1>tail off to get both of them because it looked

636
00:33:20.680 --> 00:33:22.640
<v Speaker 1>like Malachi was going to go to Indiana for a

637
00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:25.319
<v Speaker 1>while and then that changed and we all we just

638
00:33:25.359 --> 00:33:29.720
<v Speaker 1>talked about Jasper Johnson. But they can just throw some

639
00:33:29.799 --> 00:33:32.119
<v Speaker 1>wins together on the court. So far, so good.

640
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<v Speaker 7>He's pressing the right buttons so far. Like I think

641
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<v Speaker 7>the most encouraging thing is when you would hear Mark

642
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<v Speaker 7>Pope particulate his vision for the program to plan and

643
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<v Speaker 7>how he would want it to come together. I think

644
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<v Speaker 7>it's pretty much come together like that, just in terms

645
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<v Speaker 7>of I mean, he was able to put together a

646
00:33:48.279 --> 00:33:51.119
<v Speaker 7>full roster in one off season, and we don't know

647
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<v Speaker 7>if they're going to be good enough to make a run,

648
00:33:53.359 --> 00:33:57.759
<v Speaker 7>but on the surface, ostensibly it looks like a really interesting, tough,

649
00:33:57.960 --> 00:34:00.960
<v Speaker 7>extremely experienced team. So you got you're going to be

650
00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:03.960
<v Speaker 7>extremely experienced. You're going to be getting back to that

651
00:34:04.039 --> 00:34:06.440
<v Speaker 7>defensive greatness. You would imagine they should be able to

652
00:34:06.440 --> 00:34:09.760
<v Speaker 7>bank that. They're getting local kids. They're talking about Saris

653
00:34:09.800 --> 00:34:13.559
<v Speaker 7>really the inverse of the Caliperi era. So far, so far,

654
00:34:13.639 --> 00:34:15.480
<v Speaker 7>so it'll be interesting to see year one. We'll have

655
00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:18.360
<v Speaker 7>more to talk about. But I think this team is interesting.

656
00:34:18.440 --> 00:34:21.039
<v Speaker 7>You know, we've seen college basketball teams make deep runs

657
00:34:21.039 --> 00:34:23.519
<v Speaker 7>that you never would have pegged before that. And if

658
00:34:23.559 --> 00:34:25.639
<v Speaker 7>you can play great defense, and if you can knock

659
00:34:25.679 --> 00:34:27.800
<v Speaker 7>down outside shots, you're going to be a dangerous team.

660
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<v Speaker 7>In March a.

661
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<v Speaker 1>Couple more minutes with Justin Rowland of the Rivals Network,

662
00:34:31.719 --> 00:34:34.559
<v Speaker 1>I have not seen one nano second of practice. I

663
00:34:34.559 --> 00:34:37.360
<v Speaker 1>have no idea what's going on over there. I have

664
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<v Speaker 1>talked to somebody who said that the question is, how's

665
00:34:41.760 --> 00:34:45.039
<v Speaker 1>this team going to score? Other than Jackson Robinson, where

666
00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:47.719
<v Speaker 1>will the point production come from? Do you think that's

667
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<v Speaker 1>going to be a source of concern.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, that's my concern. When I just looked at the

669
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<v Speaker 7>roster myself, the first thing that jumps out is how

670
00:34:57.760 --> 00:35:01.519
<v Speaker 7>great of an offensive back court is Frista and Lamathaller.

671
00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:04.360
<v Speaker 7>I'm not saying it's a bad offense at that court,

672
00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:08.920
<v Speaker 7>but is that the kind of offensive punch, scoring punch

673
00:35:08.960 --> 00:35:10.719
<v Speaker 7>in the back court that is going to power a

674
00:35:10.760 --> 00:35:12.800
<v Speaker 7>team to the Final four? Well, Butler has done it.

675
00:35:12.880 --> 00:35:16.239
<v Speaker 7>Butler has already done it, so we know that it's possible.

676
00:35:16.320 --> 00:35:18.880
<v Speaker 7>But that's the only question. I mean, defense isn't a question.

677
00:35:19.159 --> 00:35:21.320
<v Speaker 7>Shooting is not a question. Passing is not a question.

678
00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:23.400
<v Speaker 7>For me, It's how much punch are they going to

679
00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:24.320
<v Speaker 7>get from that back court?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because Butler is not known as an offensive guy, right,

681
00:35:27.719 --> 00:35:29.039
<v Speaker 1>I mean it was more about defense.

682
00:35:29.159 --> 00:35:31.559
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, you can score on the double figures, but he's

683
00:35:31.559 --> 00:35:32.920
<v Speaker 7>not going to be somebody you rely on to get

684
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<v Speaker 7>twenty five.

685
00:35:35.280 --> 00:35:37.360
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's funny. I'm sure you've been the same

686
00:35:37.360 --> 00:35:42.079
<v Speaker 1>way talking to people about their expectations for this basketball season.

687
00:35:42.159 --> 00:35:45.760
<v Speaker 1>Of course, you cover Kentucky basketball, so you know that

688
00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:47.880
<v Speaker 1>that's a word that flies out the window, or at

689
00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:51.800
<v Speaker 1>least blows up as a season draws near. At first,

690
00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:53.719
<v Speaker 1>I talk with people about if we could just get

691
00:35:53.760 --> 00:35:56.920
<v Speaker 1>to the tournament or just win a tournament game, and

692
00:35:56.960 --> 00:35:58.880
<v Speaker 1>you know how that's going to morph into we got

693
00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:01.320
<v Speaker 1>to make a run at the final four. But that's

694
00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:04.760
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky basketball, right that is.

695
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<v Speaker 7>I do think it's it's set up to be a

696
00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:11.039
<v Speaker 7>little more reasonable in Pope's early tenure because they have

697
00:36:11.119 --> 00:36:16.199
<v Speaker 7>gone a few years without having real tournament success. Because

698
00:36:16.280 --> 00:36:18.920
<v Speaker 7>I think people understood he had to build an entire

699
00:36:18.960 --> 00:36:21.480
<v Speaker 7>team in one offseason. But also, you know, in the

700
00:36:21.519 --> 00:36:24.119
<v Speaker 7>past when Kentucky wouldn't be like the top dog in

701
00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:26.079
<v Speaker 7>the SEC. There'd be a lot of side eye in

702
00:36:26.079 --> 00:36:30.840
<v Speaker 7>that direction. I feel like people know Alabama is the

703
00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:33.000
<v Speaker 7>team to be on paper in the SEC.

704
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

705
00:36:33.440 --> 00:36:37.119
<v Speaker 7>People, they're just kind of going in. There's no there's

706
00:36:37.159 --> 00:36:41.480
<v Speaker 7>no delusion that Kentucky is who everybody expects to dominate.

707
00:36:41.480 --> 00:36:44.400
<v Speaker 7>They're not. This is a different setup in the SEC now.

708
00:36:44.480 --> 00:36:47.119
<v Speaker 7>So fans are still going to get mad with losses,

709
00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:49.920
<v Speaker 7>but I think they understand that this is not your

710
00:36:49.960 --> 00:36:51.760
<v Speaker 7>grandfather's SEC basketball now.

711
00:36:51.800 --> 00:36:54.320
<v Speaker 1>And I keep reminding people as well who have question

712
00:36:54.400 --> 00:36:57.480
<v Speaker 1>marks about Pope and his postseason record, which is legit.

713
00:36:58.320 --> 00:37:00.639
<v Speaker 1>But what is also legit is what he did at

714
00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:04.800
<v Speaker 1>other programs at Utah Valley State. Brought them, you know,

715
00:37:05.639 --> 00:37:08.199
<v Speaker 1>beyond where they had been and a'd brig him young

716
00:37:08.320 --> 00:37:13.360
<v Speaker 1>same thing. I mean, he built good programs there without

717
00:37:13.639 --> 00:37:16.880
<v Speaker 1>the resources. Clearly he has a Kentucky.

718
00:37:16.559 --> 00:37:21.280
<v Speaker 7>Right, true, very true. I mean, what was Roy Williams's

719
00:37:21.320 --> 00:37:24.119
<v Speaker 7>resume before he got the head coaching job at Kansas. Yeah,

720
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<v Speaker 7>And I mean and Mark Pope has more head coaching

721
00:37:26.800 --> 00:37:29.480
<v Speaker 7>experience than him going to Kentucky. And the flip side

722
00:37:29.480 --> 00:37:31.960
<v Speaker 7>of not having the tournament success, although I don't think

723
00:37:31.960 --> 00:37:35.039
<v Speaker 7>you really could have expected too much at the stops

724
00:37:35.079 --> 00:37:37.840
<v Speaker 7>that he was at previously. The flip side is he

725
00:37:37.920 --> 00:37:40.599
<v Speaker 7>hasn't proven that he has any kind of bad track

726
00:37:40.639 --> 00:37:44.440
<v Speaker 7>record in Mark. I mean, you know that's true, he hasn't.

727
00:37:44.519 --> 00:37:46.960
<v Speaker 7>But you really think about it, how many coaches out

728
00:37:47.000 --> 00:37:50.719
<v Speaker 7>there have the kind of tournament resume that Kentucky fans

729
00:37:50.800 --> 00:37:53.719
<v Speaker 7>aren't going to poke hold if they hired Bill self.

730
00:37:53.719 --> 00:37:55.559
<v Speaker 7>You could talk about the two titles, or you could

731
00:37:55.559 --> 00:37:57.920
<v Speaker 7>talk about the twenty twenty five years and how many

732
00:37:57.920 --> 00:38:01.480
<v Speaker 7>early Extasy had and he's splitting the cares there, but

733
00:38:01.599 --> 00:38:04.119
<v Speaker 7>the tournament is just such a crap shoot. It's really

734
00:38:04.159 --> 00:38:06.800
<v Speaker 7>just about getting the right coach in the right players.

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<v Speaker 1>You never want to see your two c lose to

736
00:38:09.079 --> 00:38:14.159
<v Speaker 1>a fifteen, But even Mike Krzyzewski had a two seed

737
00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:17.039
<v Speaker 1>lose to a fifteen. For the longest time, it didn't happen.

738
00:38:17.079 --> 00:38:19.920
<v Speaker 1>Then it only happened four times, and believe it or not,

739
00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:22.519
<v Speaker 1>I was at two of those games, and then there

740
00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:24.960
<v Speaker 1>was that lull, and then it seems like every other year.

741
00:38:25.039 --> 00:38:28.519
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, you're right about that. Justin Roland, of course,

742
00:38:28.679 --> 00:38:32.679
<v Speaker 1>we're a long time coverage of Kentucky. You can find

743
00:38:32.760 --> 00:38:35.119
<v Speaker 1>him on Twitter or x whatever you'd like to call

744
00:38:35.159 --> 00:38:39.199
<v Speaker 1>it at Roland Rivals. Thank you, sir, and stay dry,

745
00:38:39.280 --> 00:38:41.039
<v Speaker 1>stay safe, and we'll talk to you down the road.

746
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<v Speaker 7>Much appreciated it. Thank you.

747
00:38:44.400 --> 00:38:47.000
<v Speaker 1>Up next to Hallie DeVore and our number two. She

748
00:38:47.159 --> 00:38:50.920
<v Speaker 1>is a reporter anchor for WTVQ channel thirty six, which

749
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<v Speaker 1>is as odd as it sounds, the new home ABC

750
00:38:54.679 --> 00:38:57.880
<v Speaker 1>for SEC football. So we'll talk to Halle. We'll also

751
00:38:58.000 --> 00:38:59.880
<v Speaker 1>look back at some of the other odd balls to

752
00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:02.400
<v Speaker 1>from the week in a preview of the Wildcat Whip

753
00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:05.199
<v Speaker 1>if you haven't heard it already with Tom Leech McCarrel.

754
00:39:05.360 --> 00:39:38.960
<v Speaker 1>That's next on six thirty WLAP. Welcome back to the

755
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<v Speaker 1>Big Blue Sider joining us now. You see your work

756
00:39:41.280 --> 00:39:45.599
<v Speaker 1>on WTVQ reporter anchor Hallie DeVore. Hallie, you were anchoring

757
00:39:45.719 --> 00:39:48.559
<v Speaker 1>last week, and I know that when you arrived at

758
00:39:48.639 --> 00:39:52.599
<v Speaker 1>work on Saturday, I'm thinking you weren't prepared to type

759
00:39:52.599 --> 00:39:55.920
<v Speaker 1>out scripts a out of South Carolina blowout. I mean,

760
00:39:55.960 --> 00:39:58.880
<v Speaker 1>and you've you've interviewed players, You've been to the Stoops

761
00:39:58.920 --> 00:40:02.199
<v Speaker 1>press conferences. I know you were about a surprise as

762
00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:03.320
<v Speaker 1>the rest of us weren't you.

763
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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, that's one of those games where you're putting in

764
00:40:06.880 --> 00:40:10.599
<v Speaker 11>the rundown times for highlights and you're putting about a minute,

765
00:40:10.599 --> 00:40:13.679
<v Speaker 11>thirty minute, forty long highlights and then you've got to

766
00:40:13.719 --> 00:40:17.719
<v Speaker 11>readjust everything down to forty five seconds because there's just

767
00:40:17.760 --> 00:40:21.519
<v Speaker 11>not many Kentucky highlights the show, and you know, you

768
00:40:21.519 --> 00:40:24.239
<v Speaker 11>don't want to show field goals. That's just not not

769
00:40:24.440 --> 00:40:29.679
<v Speaker 11>very exciting. So definitely a really disappointing week for Kentucky

770
00:40:29.840 --> 00:40:32.519
<v Speaker 11>and unfortunately it just does not get easier this week

771
00:40:32.599 --> 00:40:33.440
<v Speaker 11>with Georgia.

772
00:40:33.559 --> 00:40:36.079
<v Speaker 1>No, and again you've you've talked to some people this

773
00:40:36.159 --> 00:40:39.119
<v Speaker 1>week that that's the toughest part of all of this,

774
00:40:39.320 --> 00:40:42.760
<v Speaker 1>I think is you know, in Stoop's talk yesterday about

775
00:40:42.880 --> 00:40:44.639
<v Speaker 1>they knew what they had to work on, he felt

776
00:40:44.639 --> 00:40:46.960
<v Speaker 1>like they had a good week of practice. Hollie, they

777
00:40:47.039 --> 00:40:49.559
<v Speaker 1>might play twice as well as they played last week

778
00:40:49.599 --> 00:40:51.639
<v Speaker 1>and it might not show up on the scoreboard. Right.

779
00:40:53.079 --> 00:40:56.079
<v Speaker 11>No, Georgia is just I mean, they're the number one

780
00:40:56.079 --> 00:40:58.519
<v Speaker 11>team in the country and for better for worse, UK

781
00:40:58.719 --> 00:41:02.239
<v Speaker 11>gets to play them really early on. Something that you

782
00:41:02.280 --> 00:41:05.360
<v Speaker 11>know Stoops and Bush have been talking about this whole

783
00:41:05.400 --> 00:41:08.880
<v Speaker 11>week is executing and This is kind of the last

784
00:41:08.880 --> 00:41:11.679
<v Speaker 11>week that I think they get to use that word.

785
00:41:11.679 --> 00:41:13.360
<v Speaker 11>They've been saying the first two weeks. You know, we

786
00:41:13.440 --> 00:41:16.880
<v Speaker 11>just need to work on executing better, executing better. This

787
00:41:16.960 --> 00:41:20.079
<v Speaker 11>is when you have to actually start following through with

788
00:41:20.159 --> 00:41:23.360
<v Speaker 11>that or find another reason that things need to get better.

789
00:41:23.440 --> 00:41:28.679
<v Speaker 11>But Georgia really strong defense, really strong offense last week.

790
00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:33.400
<v Speaker 11>Kentucky really struggled in the past game. And maybe Georgia's

791
00:41:33.960 --> 00:41:37.360
<v Speaker 11>pass defense or George's run defense is a little better

792
00:41:37.400 --> 00:41:40.679
<v Speaker 11>than their pass defense. Excuse me. So I think that

793
00:41:40.760 --> 00:41:42.880
<v Speaker 11>this week, as hard as it's going to be, Kentucky

794
00:41:43.320 --> 00:41:45.159
<v Speaker 11>and Stoops has been saying that they have to make

795
00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:49.559
<v Speaker 11>explosive plays or else, this is going to be somehow

796
00:41:49.559 --> 00:41:51.239
<v Speaker 11>worse than last week, and fans are going to start

797
00:41:51.280 --> 00:41:51.960
<v Speaker 11>leaving you halftime.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to bring that up. Not only do

799
00:41:53.840 --> 00:41:56.280
<v Speaker 1>they have to make explosive plays, they got to stop

800
00:41:56.320 --> 00:41:59.440
<v Speaker 1>them as well. And that was something Brad White talked about.

801
00:41:59.719 --> 00:42:03.400
<v Speaker 1>The first thing he talked about on media day was

802
00:42:03.639 --> 00:42:06.840
<v Speaker 1>getting off the field on third down and not giving

803
00:42:06.880 --> 00:42:11.079
<v Speaker 1>up explosive plays, especially on third down. And boy, Georgia

804
00:42:11.119 --> 00:42:12.400
<v Speaker 1>is quite capable, isn't it.

805
00:42:13.559 --> 00:42:16.119
<v Speaker 11>Georgia is quite capable. I mean, they have Carson Beck,

806
00:42:16.159 --> 00:42:20.639
<v Speaker 11>who's arguably the best quarterback. One thing that Kentucky's defense

807
00:42:20.760 --> 00:42:23.679
<v Speaker 11>does have, which is not much, but this is Georgia's

808
00:42:23.679 --> 00:42:27.199
<v Speaker 11>first SEC matchup, so Kentucky might have a little bit

809
00:42:27.199 --> 00:42:30.280
<v Speaker 11>of the upperhand there, having just played South Carolina, who's

810
00:42:30.519 --> 00:42:34.159
<v Speaker 11>arguably a better team than Tennessee Tech, and so UK

811
00:42:34.280 --> 00:42:37.039
<v Speaker 11>defense is also probably the best that Georgia will have

812
00:42:37.119 --> 00:42:40.679
<v Speaker 11>seen so far. Kentucky doesn't have a bad defense. They're

813
00:42:40.760 --> 00:42:43.679
<v Speaker 11>number eight in the country according to NCAA and Georgia's

814
00:42:43.760 --> 00:42:48.960
<v Speaker 11>number five. So Kentucky's defense has to get stopped. But that,

815
00:42:49.119 --> 00:42:50.920
<v Speaker 11>like I was just saying, the offense has to help

816
00:42:50.960 --> 00:42:54.519
<v Speaker 11>them out because last week the defense, the defense didn't

817
00:42:54.559 --> 00:42:57.360
<v Speaker 11>play bad. They just had a couple blown coverages that

818
00:42:57.599 --> 00:43:02.320
<v Speaker 11>unfortunately resulted in big plays or but the defense overall

819
00:43:02.400 --> 00:43:05.639
<v Speaker 11>plays you know pretty well. It's the offense just has

820
00:43:05.679 --> 00:43:06.239
<v Speaker 11>to match that.

821
00:43:06.760 --> 00:43:10.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and they've got so many great athletes Georgia does.

822
00:43:11.000 --> 00:43:14.760
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky has its share as well. But you know, having

823
00:43:14.800 --> 00:43:16.760
<v Speaker 1>as you know, I've covered this program for a long time,

824
00:43:16.800 --> 00:43:19.320
<v Speaker 1>and what Mark Stoops and Vince Maryland staff have done

825
00:43:20.079 --> 00:43:23.239
<v Speaker 1>is bring in more talented players than they've had in

826
00:43:23.239 --> 00:43:26.880
<v Speaker 1>the past. In other words, depth. But even if they

827
00:43:26.880 --> 00:43:29.159
<v Speaker 1>have a four star, the next man up might be

828
00:43:29.639 --> 00:43:32.480
<v Speaker 1>a three or a two, whereas Georgia just runs four

829
00:43:32.519 --> 00:43:36.000
<v Speaker 1>and five after four and five. That's why Pop Johnson's here,

830
00:43:36.039 --> 00:43:38.480
<v Speaker 1>That's why Brock vandergriff is here. But it's tough to

831
00:43:38.960 --> 00:43:42.360
<v Speaker 1>it's tough to challenge that, isn't it exactly?

832
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<v Speaker 11>And I think that against really strong players like that,

833
00:43:48.199 --> 00:43:50.000
<v Speaker 11>that can't be the focus. You just have to look

834
00:43:50.039 --> 00:43:54.239
<v Speaker 11>at as an overall offense, as an overall defense. Someone

835
00:43:54.239 --> 00:43:56.239
<v Speaker 11>that stood out to me last week for Georgia was

836
00:43:56.320 --> 00:44:00.320
<v Speaker 11>Nate Frazier. Uh. He had one hundred and ten hundred

837
00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:04.800
<v Speaker 11>and eleven yards seventeen carries. So that's something that you know,

838
00:44:04.960 --> 00:44:08.480
<v Speaker 11>Kentucky's run defenses is really rush defense is really going

839
00:44:08.559 --> 00:44:09.840
<v Speaker 11>to have to look out for because he had a

840
00:44:09.840 --> 00:44:12.440
<v Speaker 11>really strong performance last week and he's just a true freshman.

841
00:44:12.800 --> 00:44:16.679
<v Speaker 1>Oh Man, how did you think Kentucky fared against South

842
00:44:16.719 --> 00:44:18.599
<v Speaker 1>Carolina's true freshman quarterback?

843
00:44:20.679 --> 00:44:20.960
<v Speaker 3>Wow?

844
00:44:21.079 --> 00:44:24.199
<v Speaker 11>He That is the hard question because he is just talented.

845
00:44:24.280 --> 00:44:28.119
<v Speaker 11>You watch him, he understands, you know, how to scramble.

846
00:44:28.159 --> 00:44:31.280
<v Speaker 11>He looked really strong and he like you said it

847
00:44:31.320 --> 00:44:35.480
<v Speaker 11>was he took advantage of blown coverage. So this week

848
00:44:35.800 --> 00:44:39.559
<v Speaker 11>Kentucky's deep that has to be the focus is you know,

849
00:44:39.719 --> 00:44:41.480
<v Speaker 11>you don't want to walk out of that game being like, man,

850
00:44:41.480 --> 00:44:43.360
<v Speaker 11>we've played really trying defense, but just a couple of

851
00:44:43.360 --> 00:44:46.519
<v Speaker 11>blown coverages. You have to tighten up, you know, in

852
00:44:46.559 --> 00:44:49.400
<v Speaker 11>your secondary or else it could. You kind of proved

853
00:44:49.400 --> 00:44:52.519
<v Speaker 11>it last week. Even someone that freshman quarterback can see

854
00:44:52.519 --> 00:44:54.719
<v Speaker 11>and take advantage of that. In the SEC. It's not

855
00:44:54.880 --> 00:44:58.599
<v Speaker 11>something that you know, this is the SEC. Your quarterbacks

856
00:44:58.599 --> 00:44:59.599
<v Speaker 11>are going to be able to do that.

857
00:45:00.719 --> 00:45:03.800
<v Speaker 1>We're talking to Halle Devor of WTVQ, which of course

858
00:45:03.880 --> 00:45:09.239
<v Speaker 1>now as SEC football thanks to ABC. You know, it

859
00:45:09.360 --> 00:45:13.119
<v Speaker 1>was unfortunate as well as you know that College Game

860
00:45:13.239 --> 00:45:15.599
<v Speaker 1>Day this is ESPN part of the ABC family. But

861
00:45:16.199 --> 00:45:18.880
<v Speaker 1>College Game Day would have been here if the Wildcats

862
00:45:19.280 --> 00:45:22.039
<v Speaker 1>had beaten South Carolina. That would have been a great

863
00:45:22.119 --> 00:45:25.559
<v Speaker 1>hit for Kentucky football. Now the SEC show here one

864
00:45:25.599 --> 00:45:29.000
<v Speaker 1>week and then College Game Day the next. Boy, that

865
00:45:29.119 --> 00:45:32.480
<v Speaker 1>what it might have done for Kentucky recruiting. It's going

866
00:45:32.519 --> 00:45:34.400
<v Speaker 1>to take a while to recover from that, isn't it.

867
00:45:35.800 --> 00:45:38.800
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, And the fact that they're heading down to South

868
00:45:38.840 --> 00:45:42.880
<v Speaker 11>Carolina too, which is just kind of a slap in

869
00:45:42.920 --> 00:45:46.719
<v Speaker 11>the face another it does hurt recruiting, But at the

870
00:45:46.800 --> 00:45:50.119
<v Speaker 11>same time, I do believe that there are bigger issues

871
00:45:50.159 --> 00:45:54.320
<v Speaker 11>than you know, billion College Game Day or cc Nations

872
00:45:54.320 --> 00:45:56.840
<v Speaker 11>stuff like that. That's just an added bonus and a

873
00:45:56.920 --> 00:46:03.400
<v Speaker 11>time to show off. But I don't think that. Something

874
00:46:03.440 --> 00:46:06.199
<v Speaker 11>that did stand out to me though, was I read

875
00:46:06.239 --> 00:46:09.960
<v Speaker 11>somewhere that Kentucky was being filmed as part of maybe

876
00:46:09.960 --> 00:46:13.480
<v Speaker 11>an sec Netflix show or something like that, and I

877
00:46:13.559 --> 00:46:16.000
<v Speaker 11>read that there were crews in town last week. And

878
00:46:16.039 --> 00:46:20.559
<v Speaker 11>that's a killer because Netflix and those kind of documentaries

879
00:46:20.639 --> 00:46:23.639
<v Speaker 11>are really really popular right now, especially with you know,

880
00:46:24.800 --> 00:46:29.360
<v Speaker 11>documentaries like Quarterback Receiver. The football fans are really into

881
00:46:29.400 --> 00:46:32.920
<v Speaker 11>and this might kind of be the first college football

882
00:46:33.119 --> 00:46:36.800
<v Speaker 11>one of those documentaries on Netflix, and that's a killer

883
00:46:36.840 --> 00:46:39.440
<v Speaker 11>because that's so permanent. I mean, College Game Day changes

884
00:46:39.480 --> 00:46:43.199
<v Speaker 11>every week, at sc Nation changes every week. A documentary

885
00:46:43.280 --> 00:46:45.559
<v Speaker 11>on Netflix is something that sticks around for a while

886
00:46:45.639 --> 00:46:47.880
<v Speaker 11>and that people talk about, people watch. So I actually

887
00:46:47.880 --> 00:46:50.199
<v Speaker 11>think that that probably was a little more of a

888
00:46:50.280 --> 00:46:52.320
<v Speaker 11>killer if crews were in town for that last week

889
00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:54.559
<v Speaker 11>and that was the unfortunate game they captured.

890
00:46:54.880 --> 00:46:57.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think you're right about that, and you're right

891
00:46:57.679 --> 00:47:02.480
<v Speaker 1>it is forever. Although with the SEC is in charge

892
00:47:02.480 --> 00:47:05.159
<v Speaker 1>of the production, they're not going to show one of

893
00:47:05.159 --> 00:47:09.039
<v Speaker 1>their teams in a particularly harsh light. But if the

894
00:47:09.039 --> 00:47:12.440
<v Speaker 1>production company has the green light, you know, they may

895
00:47:12.480 --> 00:47:15.000
<v Speaker 1>not hold back. I mean, it was, as Rich Brooks said,

896
00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:20.679
<v Speaker 1>the former coach, complete all systems shut down. And you know,

897
00:47:20.840 --> 00:47:24.119
<v Speaker 1>boy Mark Stoops, you saw the video of him postgame,

898
00:47:24.159 --> 00:47:26.079
<v Speaker 1>and of course he was up with us in the

899
00:47:26.119 --> 00:47:31.920
<v Speaker 1>interview room on his radio show. You talk about bewildered, confused, dejected.

900
00:47:31.920 --> 00:47:33.920
<v Speaker 1>You kind of run out of adjectives for him, don't you.

901
00:47:35.280 --> 00:47:40.639
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, he he used the word embarrassed, which really tough.

902
00:47:40.679 --> 00:47:43.559
<v Speaker 11>And if you're honest, you look at that just on

903
00:47:43.639 --> 00:47:46.440
<v Speaker 11>all cylinders and you can see where the staff is

904
00:47:46.440 --> 00:47:49.320
<v Speaker 11>coming from. And he took a lot of accountability, which

905
00:47:49.320 --> 00:47:53.840
<v Speaker 11>he always does that it was kind of a group effort. Obviously,

906
00:47:53.880 --> 00:47:56.719
<v Speaker 11>he took a lot of responsibility for you know, the

907
00:47:56.760 --> 00:48:01.559
<v Speaker 11>fourth and one call and that decision. So he does

908
00:48:01.639 --> 00:48:04.679
<v Speaker 11>jainly believe that it is an all around staff offense

909
00:48:04.800 --> 00:48:09.760
<v Speaker 11>and defense collective efforts that needs to get better. But yeah,

910
00:48:09.800 --> 00:48:11.840
<v Speaker 11>and that was just a really tough game and I

911
00:48:11.840 --> 00:48:15.400
<v Speaker 11>think as harsh as the word embarrassing is that that

912
00:48:15.559 --> 00:48:18.199
<v Speaker 11>is probably accurate. I think a lot of the fans

913
00:48:18.199 --> 00:48:21.280
<v Speaker 11>walked out of that game. You know, even though your

914
00:48:21.320 --> 00:48:24.480
<v Speaker 11>first opponent, Southern Myth, not one of the strongest teams,

915
00:48:24.760 --> 00:48:26.920
<v Speaker 11>you looked at that performance and it gave you a

916
00:48:26.920 --> 00:48:29.599
<v Speaker 11>lot more hope and you would think even with another

917
00:48:30.239 --> 00:48:32.400
<v Speaker 11>loss for the third year in a road to South Carolina,

918
00:48:33.239 --> 00:48:35.599
<v Speaker 11>it wouldn't have been that bad. It would have been

919
00:48:35.599 --> 00:48:37.800
<v Speaker 11>just a more competitive game where fans would have walked

920
00:48:37.800 --> 00:48:40.760
<v Speaker 11>out being like, dang, you know, a one possession game,

921
00:48:40.840 --> 00:48:42.800
<v Speaker 11>like we're so close, we have a lot to look

922
00:48:42.840 --> 00:48:45.840
<v Speaker 11>forward to, And instead fans are walking out being like,

923
00:48:46.000 --> 00:48:49.920
<v Speaker 11>what on earth? This team looked terrible? And that's not

924
00:48:49.920 --> 00:48:52.239
<v Speaker 11>what you want your team saying. They when they say

925
00:48:52.280 --> 00:48:54.440
<v Speaker 11>the biggest improvement is from week one to week two,

926
00:48:54.480 --> 00:48:55.760
<v Speaker 11>that's not what you want your fans saying.

927
00:48:55.880 --> 00:49:00.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Hallie Devor, my guest reporter Rancor from WTVQ Home

928
00:49:00.480 --> 00:49:03.280
<v Speaker 1>Now of SEC Football. We'll come back with more just

929
00:49:03.280 --> 00:49:05.159
<v Speaker 1>a minute here on the Big Blue and Sider six

930
00:49:05.320 --> 00:49:09.480
<v Speaker 1>thirty WLAP. Welcome back. We're talking with Hallie DeVore of WTVQ,

931
00:49:09.599 --> 00:49:14.119
<v Speaker 1>a reporter anchor covers the Wildcats, and I want to

932
00:49:14.119 --> 00:49:17.119
<v Speaker 1>ask you though about your college career in that you

933
00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:20.440
<v Speaker 1>came from Northwestern and I think you graduated what twenty

934
00:49:20.519 --> 00:49:22.480
<v Speaker 1>two to twenty three something like that.

935
00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:25.760
<v Speaker 11>Yes, I graduated in twenty twenty three.

936
00:49:25.840 --> 00:49:29.039
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you were there when Northwestern played Kentucky

937
00:49:29.480 --> 00:49:31.960
<v Speaker 1>in the Music City Bowl. Did that predate you in college?

938
00:49:32.039 --> 00:49:34.480
<v Speaker 11>No, I did not know too much about that game.

939
00:49:34.559 --> 00:49:36.800
<v Speaker 11>It did predate my time at Northwestern, but I do

940
00:49:36.880 --> 00:49:39.599
<v Speaker 11>know about the matchup and the two teams based off.

941
00:49:39.960 --> 00:49:43.840
<v Speaker 1>It's interesting to me because I always held up Northwestern

942
00:49:44.199 --> 00:49:49.199
<v Speaker 1>when Kentucky was struggling so much in football, and people

943
00:49:49.239 --> 00:49:51.440
<v Speaker 1>would look at this team or that, and I would say, no,

944
00:49:51.519 --> 00:49:54.239
<v Speaker 1>I think the team to look at as a team,

945
00:49:54.280 --> 00:49:58.440
<v Speaker 1>the closest one to me was Northwestern and maybe Vandy.

946
00:49:58.480 --> 00:50:01.000
<v Speaker 1>But I said, you know what, Northwestern. I guess I

947
00:50:01.199 --> 00:50:04.000
<v Speaker 1>talked about Northwestern because at times they were having success,

948
00:50:04.719 --> 00:50:08.440
<v Speaker 1>and I said, you know, with their academic standards, if

949
00:50:08.440 --> 00:50:12.480
<v Speaker 1>they can have success with football, why can't Kentucky. You know,

950
00:50:12.519 --> 00:50:15.880
<v Speaker 1>it comes back to recruiting getting athletes there. I don't

951
00:50:15.880 --> 00:50:19.320
<v Speaker 1>remember how football was when you were at Northwestern. Was

952
00:50:19.599 --> 00:50:21.920
<v Speaker 1>did you have much success when when you were a

953
00:50:21.920 --> 00:50:22.920
<v Speaker 1>student athlete there.

954
00:50:24.639 --> 00:50:27.480
<v Speaker 11>Oh, that was just so heartbreaking for me because I'm

955
00:50:27.480 --> 00:50:30.519
<v Speaker 11>a huge football fan, so it was a bummer. Art

956
00:50:31.159 --> 00:50:34.880
<v Speaker 11>The year before I started at Northwestern, so I believe

957
00:50:35.000 --> 00:50:39.880
<v Speaker 11>twenty nineteen, Northwestern was in the Big Ten Championship versus

958
00:50:39.880 --> 00:50:43.239
<v Speaker 11>Ohio State, and I had so much hope. I was like,

959
00:50:43.280 --> 00:50:46.079
<v Speaker 11>this is so exciting. We lost to Ohio State. We

960
00:50:46.159 --> 00:50:48.320
<v Speaker 11>did two years in a row my time or two

961
00:50:48.400 --> 00:50:51.360
<v Speaker 11>years in my time there, but I was like, wow, like,

962
00:50:51.400 --> 00:50:54.679
<v Speaker 11>we're in the Big Ten Championship, Like what an accomplishment

963
00:50:54.719 --> 00:50:57.280
<v Speaker 11>and obviously different with you know, Big and West and that,

964
00:50:57.440 --> 00:51:03.159
<v Speaker 11>how that's being alleged who's playing who? And then sophomore

965
00:51:03.239 --> 00:51:07.320
<v Speaker 11>year was COVID or no. Sorry, my freshman year, I

966
00:51:07.400 --> 00:51:11.760
<v Speaker 11>don't know what happened, but if they were terrible, terrible year.

967
00:51:11.800 --> 00:51:14.519
<v Speaker 11>And then my sophomore year they were really good again

968
00:51:14.519 --> 00:51:16.639
<v Speaker 11>and they were in the Big Ten Championship versus Ohio

969
00:51:16.719 --> 00:51:19.440
<v Speaker 11>Speed again and we lost again, but it was COVID,

970
00:51:19.519 --> 00:51:22.760
<v Speaker 11>so nobody could go to the games. And then my

971
00:51:22.920 --> 00:51:27.679
<v Speaker 11>junior and senior year were extremely rough. And then obviously

972
00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:32.199
<v Speaker 11>last year, everything with Pa Fitzgerald and amazing allegations, and

973
00:51:32.880 --> 00:51:34.960
<v Speaker 11>now there's a new head coach and this year there's

974
00:51:35.039 --> 00:51:39.039
<v Speaker 11>a new stadium on the Lake Front with kind of

975
00:51:39.119 --> 00:51:44.360
<v Speaker 11>random seating because they're redoing Ryan Field. So they they're

976
00:51:44.360 --> 00:51:46.880
<v Speaker 11>a weird program because they've had a lot of success,

977
00:51:47.039 --> 00:51:50.440
<v Speaker 11>but it hasn't been consistent success. And that's kind of

978
00:51:50.440 --> 00:51:53.760
<v Speaker 11>where that Northwestern Kentucky differ a little bit because you

979
00:51:53.800 --> 00:51:57.400
<v Speaker 11>could say that, you know, Kentucky, well, they haven't had

980
00:51:58.000 --> 00:52:02.480
<v Speaker 11>you know, SEC champion after actually Chet, neither of Northwestern.

981
00:52:02.519 --> 00:52:04.679
<v Speaker 11>But you can look at Kentucky, you know, wow, they've

982
00:52:04.679 --> 00:52:08.719
<v Speaker 11>been to eight fool games in a row. That's consistency

983
00:52:08.760 --> 00:52:12.440
<v Speaker 11>and that's something that that Northwestern is lacking and hopefully

984
00:52:12.679 --> 00:52:14.440
<v Speaker 11>throw on the up and up as far as making

985
00:52:14.480 --> 00:52:16.400
<v Speaker 11>things a little more year to year.

986
00:52:17.079 --> 00:52:19.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean that Music City Bowl was a really

987
00:52:19.519 --> 00:52:22.519
<v Speaker 1>entertaining game. Northwestern wins at twenty four to twenty three.

988
00:52:22.960 --> 00:52:25.760
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky throwing into the end zone for a two point

989
00:52:25.800 --> 00:52:30.360
<v Speaker 1>conversion with no time left on the clock basically and

990
00:52:30.440 --> 00:52:32.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, and missed it by you know, if the

991
00:52:32.840 --> 00:52:34.920
<v Speaker 1>ball was on the left side of the receiver instead

992
00:52:34.920 --> 00:52:37.519
<v Speaker 1>of the right side, that kind of thing. Northwestern made

993
00:52:37.519 --> 00:52:41.079
<v Speaker 1>a defensive play but Stephen Johnson was just had become

994
00:52:41.159 --> 00:52:45.679
<v Speaker 1>just this mythical figure for Kentucky at quarterback and somehow

995
00:52:45.719 --> 00:52:48.719
<v Speaker 1>got the Wildcats to that ball game. But Northwestern net

996
00:52:48.760 --> 00:52:52.159
<v Speaker 1>year finished ten to three and just looked like, oh yeah,

997
00:52:52.199 --> 00:52:55.719
<v Speaker 1>it was going to remain a credible, credible program. But

998
00:52:55.800 --> 00:52:59.119
<v Speaker 1>as you said, here comes COVID, then the hazing allegations

999
00:52:59.159 --> 00:53:02.159
<v Speaker 1>and all that, so it had to be just really,

1000
00:53:02.559 --> 00:53:05.800
<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine what it's like to see your your team,

1001
00:53:05.880 --> 00:53:08.760
<v Speaker 1>like you said, a year or two later, get to

1002
00:53:08.800 --> 00:53:12.920
<v Speaker 1>the conference championship game, which Kentucky is still waiting to do.

1003
00:53:14.079 --> 00:53:17.320
<v Speaker 1>And now don't you think it's I keep saying, Hallie,

1004
00:53:17.599 --> 00:53:21.679
<v Speaker 1>it's going to be more challenging to get to Atlanta

1005
00:53:22.519 --> 00:53:25.119
<v Speaker 1>than it will be to get to the College Football Playoff,

1006
00:53:25.159 --> 00:53:25.760
<v Speaker 1>don't you think?

1007
00:53:26.440 --> 00:53:32.079
<v Speaker 11>Yes, yes, oh yeah, the SEC is just the best

1008
00:53:32.119 --> 00:53:35.440
<v Speaker 11>conference in college football almost not even arguably. If you

1009
00:53:35.480 --> 00:53:38.880
<v Speaker 11>look at who's just who Kentucky has to play this year,

1010
00:53:39.480 --> 00:53:42.400
<v Speaker 11>it's it's daunting. So and you kind of look at

1011
00:53:42.440 --> 00:53:46.000
<v Speaker 11>it for better or for worse, because it's gonna force

1012
00:53:46.039 --> 00:53:50.119
<v Speaker 11>a lot of improvement on Kentucky's behalf. But you know,

1013
00:53:50.440 --> 00:53:53.639
<v Speaker 11>you also want to be a contender for your fans,

1014
00:53:53.800 --> 00:53:56.679
<v Speaker 11>for your fan base to want to come out and

1015
00:53:56.719 --> 00:53:59.599
<v Speaker 11>watch games, and if you're just getting be over and

1016
00:53:59.679 --> 00:54:02.480
<v Speaker 11>over in the SEC, that's not, you know, a very

1017
00:54:03.119 --> 00:54:05.760
<v Speaker 11>docing thing to come and watch. So they have a

1018
00:54:05.800 --> 00:54:07.400
<v Speaker 11>lot of challenges.

1019
00:54:08.320 --> 00:54:08.519
<v Speaker 7>You know.

1020
00:54:09.039 --> 00:54:11.760
<v Speaker 11>And it starts this week with number one Georgia. And

1021
00:54:11.840 --> 00:54:16.199
<v Speaker 11>I think that honestly, you know, that's the goal is

1022
00:54:16.239 --> 00:54:19.159
<v Speaker 11>to get to SEC champions just win se championships, make

1023
00:54:19.199 --> 00:54:23.320
<v Speaker 11>it to the college football playoffs. But I've noticed a

1024
00:54:23.360 --> 00:54:26.199
<v Speaker 11>trend where it's almost if the game is competitive, like

1025
00:54:26.280 --> 00:54:29.039
<v Speaker 11>you know, Northwestern Kentucky for example. Obviously I know that

1026
00:54:29.119 --> 00:54:32.239
<v Speaker 11>was a heartbreaking loss by one point for Kentucky, but

1027
00:54:32.360 --> 00:54:34.559
<v Speaker 11>you look back at that game and at least you're

1028
00:54:34.599 --> 00:54:37.000
<v Speaker 11>not saying, oh my goodness, we got killed, like that

1029
00:54:37.119 --> 00:54:39.280
<v Speaker 11>was an entertaining game. Fans were there until the fourth

1030
00:54:39.360 --> 00:54:42.039
<v Speaker 11>quarter on their toes. They put up a fight. It

1031
00:54:42.079 --> 00:54:44.440
<v Speaker 11>was a matter of points. And I think if you can,

1032
00:54:44.480 --> 00:54:47.760
<v Speaker 11>even in the SEC, get to a point where that's

1033
00:54:47.840 --> 00:54:51.119
<v Speaker 11>the case, it's it's a matter of you know, it's

1034
00:54:51.119 --> 00:54:55.239
<v Speaker 11>a one possession game or something like that, that just

1035
00:54:55.519 --> 00:54:57.840
<v Speaker 11>leads a lot more hope and a lot more confidence

1036
00:54:58.400 --> 00:55:01.039
<v Speaker 11>versus you know, getting killed every single week.

1037
00:55:01.079 --> 00:55:03.599
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, well I mentioned you were a student athlete.

1038
00:55:03.679 --> 00:55:08.599
<v Speaker 1>You ran track, right and cross country? Yeah, what was

1039
00:55:08.639 --> 00:55:11.480
<v Speaker 1>your what was your event in track?

1040
00:55:13.039 --> 00:55:16.199
<v Speaker 11>For track? I ran the fifteen hundred, which is like

1041
00:55:16.519 --> 00:55:17.800
<v Speaker 11>just one hundred yards short.

1042
00:55:17.599 --> 00:55:18.039
<v Speaker 4>Of a mile.

1043
00:55:18.199 --> 00:55:22.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so distance. I bring it up because you were

1044
00:55:22.199 --> 00:55:24.840
<v Speaker 1>an athlete in the Big Ten and as we all

1045
00:55:24.880 --> 00:55:28.320
<v Speaker 1>know now, the Big Ten has expanded to ridiculous proportions.

1046
00:55:28.719 --> 00:55:33.159
<v Speaker 1>Really the SEC probably has as well, but more ridiculous geographically.

1047
00:55:33.800 --> 00:55:35.920
<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine and that you didn't have to deal

1048
00:55:35.920 --> 00:55:39.039
<v Speaker 1>with this, but can you imagine what it would have

1049
00:55:39.039 --> 00:55:41.639
<v Speaker 1>been like. And you guys were just basically traveling from

1050
00:55:41.719 --> 00:55:45.480
<v Speaker 1>Chicago in the middle of the country, but now you're

1051
00:55:45.480 --> 00:55:48.960
<v Speaker 1>going to have teams going coast to coast to compete.

1052
00:55:48.960 --> 00:55:53.440
<v Speaker 1>You would have had to run against an at Southern

1053
00:55:53.480 --> 00:55:57.920
<v Speaker 1>col UCLA, Washington up in Seattle, that kind of thing.

1054
00:55:58.519 --> 00:56:01.480
<v Speaker 1>And it's almost as though allley that the powers would

1055
00:56:01.519 --> 00:56:06.480
<v Speaker 1>be couldn't care less about athletes and anything with football,

1056
00:56:06.519 --> 00:56:07.039
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean.

1057
00:56:08.400 --> 00:56:11.480
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, this is don't even get me started on this topic. Actually,

1058
00:56:11.480 --> 00:56:15.079
<v Speaker 11>because I'm from Oregon, so you know, my family grew

1059
00:56:15.119 --> 00:56:17.880
<v Speaker 11>up Big Duck fans as well, so this is like

1060
00:56:18.039 --> 00:56:21.920
<v Speaker 11>so weird to see Oregon not be in the Pact

1061
00:56:21.920 --> 00:56:25.079
<v Speaker 11>twelve Like that just is so like tattooed into my brain,

1062
00:56:25.760 --> 00:56:28.800
<v Speaker 11>and especially joining the conference that I competed in collegiately,

1063
00:56:28.880 --> 00:56:31.159
<v Speaker 11>like I would I'd actually would love to have raced

1064
00:56:31.199 --> 00:56:35.239
<v Speaker 11>against Oregon. I'd running wise. They have a really strong program,

1065
00:56:35.320 --> 00:56:37.559
<v Speaker 11>and I'm I'm a big fan of their athletic programs.

1066
00:56:37.599 --> 00:56:40.920
<v Speaker 11>But do I think that's the best idea? Literally not

1067
00:56:41.039 --> 00:56:45.079
<v Speaker 11>at all. I don't understand the logic behind that whatsoever.

1068
00:56:45.519 --> 00:56:49.719
<v Speaker 11>Obviously for sports like football, you know, it's a business.

1069
00:56:49.760 --> 00:56:53.440
<v Speaker 11>I do understand that, But I was in the athletic community.

1070
00:56:53.440 --> 00:56:55.880
<v Speaker 11>I have a lot of friends that were on the

1071
00:56:55.960 --> 00:56:59.079
<v Speaker 11>women's soccer team, on the women's field hockey team, on

1072
00:56:59.119 --> 00:57:02.920
<v Speaker 11>the women's basketball teams that travel a lot more than

1073
00:57:03.000 --> 00:57:07.119
<v Speaker 11>just once a week to play these games. Who's you know,

1074
00:57:07.400 --> 00:57:10.280
<v Speaker 11>just with the travel schedule in previous years in the

1075
00:57:10.320 --> 00:57:13.199
<v Speaker 11>Big Ten, you know, going to Iowa, it was a hassle.

1076
00:57:13.280 --> 00:57:15.320
<v Speaker 11>To go to Penn State or go to Maryland or

1077
00:57:15.400 --> 00:57:17.519
<v Speaker 11>Rutgers or somewhere. You had to get on a flight

1078
00:57:17.559 --> 00:57:20.039
<v Speaker 11>for like two hours. That was a hassle in the

1079
00:57:20.039 --> 00:57:24.079
<v Speaker 11>middle of the week as far as exams, and you

1080
00:57:24.119 --> 00:57:27.320
<v Speaker 11>know you're leaving on Wednesday, coming back Thursday, leaving Saturday,

1081
00:57:27.320 --> 00:57:30.079
<v Speaker 11>coming back month like that already is a hassle. So

1082
00:57:30.159 --> 00:57:34.679
<v Speaker 11>I can truly not imagine for teams like that, how

1083
00:57:35.679 --> 00:57:38.039
<v Speaker 11>getting out to like Oregon is a flight And I

1084
00:57:38.280 --> 00:57:41.760
<v Speaker 11>made that plight once every Christmas, you know, and it is.

1085
00:57:41.920 --> 00:57:43.440
<v Speaker 11>It's not an easy place to go. It's about a

1086
00:57:43.480 --> 00:57:45.920
<v Speaker 11>five and a half hour flight, and to have to

1087
00:57:46.000 --> 00:57:48.199
<v Speaker 11>do that and come back and then maybe two days

1088
00:57:48.280 --> 00:57:50.280
<v Speaker 11>later fly out to Maryland on the other side of

1089
00:57:50.280 --> 00:57:55.679
<v Speaker 11>the country is just ridiculous for any other sport other

1090
00:57:55.719 --> 00:57:58.519
<v Speaker 11>than football or maybe even running, for example, you don't

1091
00:57:59.079 --> 00:58:02.239
<v Speaker 11>for cross country. You compete like five times in a season.

1092
00:58:02.360 --> 00:58:04.719
<v Speaker 11>It's not much. Yeah, so that's not a big deal,

1093
00:58:04.800 --> 00:58:07.000
<v Speaker 11>but it is difficult because I don't think they took

1094
00:58:07.039 --> 00:58:10.800
<v Speaker 11>into account how that would affect a lot of other sports.

1095
00:58:10.840 --> 00:58:12.400
<v Speaker 11>And while it's going to be great to watch on

1096
00:58:12.440 --> 00:58:15.039
<v Speaker 11>the TV, you know, mental health and stuff like that

1097
00:58:15.199 --> 00:58:17.800
<v Speaker 11>is so huge right now, especially in student athletes, and

1098
00:58:18.360 --> 00:58:20.400
<v Speaker 11>we're seeing a lot of movement behind that, and I

1099
00:58:20.440 --> 00:58:24.760
<v Speaker 11>just hope that this doesn't cause bigger issues because that's

1100
00:58:24.840 --> 00:58:26.440
<v Speaker 11>just us A lot of travel.

1101
00:58:27.360 --> 00:58:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And you know what's interesting as well. I'm not

1102
00:58:30.119 --> 00:58:32.079
<v Speaker 1>one of the media people who kind of rolls his

1103
00:58:32.159 --> 00:58:35.199
<v Speaker 1>eyes about student athletes. I know a lot of people

1104
00:58:35.199 --> 00:58:38.599
<v Speaker 1>who do. But I also know that too many people

1105
00:58:38.599 --> 00:58:40.360
<v Speaker 1>in our line of work think of the kids who

1106
00:58:40.400 --> 00:58:42.280
<v Speaker 1>are only of the kids that are going to go

1107
00:58:42.400 --> 00:58:46.199
<v Speaker 1>pro and that's like less than two percent when you

1108
00:58:46.239 --> 00:58:49.960
<v Speaker 1>break it all down, so most of you all you

1109
00:58:50.039 --> 00:58:52.840
<v Speaker 1>got to go to class, especially a place like Northwestern,

1110
00:58:53.239 --> 00:58:57.280
<v Speaker 1>and the people who are making these decisions, they're fond

1111
00:58:57.320 --> 00:59:00.800
<v Speaker 1>of and stubborn about using the term student athlete. And

1112
00:59:00.800 --> 00:59:04.119
<v Speaker 1>that's fine, but make it stand up, you know what

1113
00:59:04.159 --> 00:59:07.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean. Nobody used that term when they were talking about, Yes,

1114
00:59:07.960 --> 00:59:12.920
<v Speaker 1>Rutgers will play against Southern Cal in whatever sport. However

1115
00:59:12.960 --> 00:59:16.079
<v Speaker 1>many times a year. You know, they never use the

1116
00:59:16.159 --> 00:59:17.559
<v Speaker 1>term student athlete, do they?

1117
00:59:19.079 --> 00:59:21.199
<v Speaker 11>No, they don't, And that is hard because that is

1118
00:59:21.199 --> 00:59:23.159
<v Speaker 11>truly what they are. I mean, if you anyone thinks

1119
00:59:23.199 --> 00:59:25.880
<v Speaker 11>back to their time at college, you know most people

1120
00:59:25.920 --> 00:59:29.559
<v Speaker 11>and how much energy and time they put into studying it,

1121
00:59:29.960 --> 00:59:32.119
<v Speaker 11>and not at all to say that a student athlete's

1122
00:59:32.159 --> 00:59:36.760
<v Speaker 11>life is more difficult. I genuinely do believe that everyone

1123
00:59:36.800 --> 00:59:39.039
<v Speaker 11>has a bunch of stuff going on that you balance,

1124
00:59:39.079 --> 00:59:46.239
<v Speaker 11>whether it's extracurriculars, studying athletics, club athletics. But for student athletes,

1125
00:59:46.280 --> 00:59:51.079
<v Speaker 11>there is a huge emphasis on time management and depending

1126
00:59:51.119 --> 00:59:55.199
<v Speaker 11>on your load, like they're at some point, some things

1127
00:59:55.280 --> 00:59:57.519
<v Speaker 11>have to give, and sometimes with the pressure of being

1128
00:59:57.519 --> 01:00:02.800
<v Speaker 11>a student athlete, unfortunately what gives usually first is school

1129
01:00:03.000 --> 01:00:06.800
<v Speaker 11>because you're, you know, under all this pressure, you know

1130
01:00:06.880 --> 01:00:09.320
<v Speaker 11>from the SEC or something to go and win this

1131
01:00:09.360 --> 01:00:12.760
<v Speaker 11>football game and this you know, week matters so much

1132
01:00:12.880 --> 01:00:16.400
<v Speaker 11>ball lah that you know maybe you're not going to

1133
01:00:16.480 --> 01:00:17.840
<v Speaker 11>go pro, but you're like, all right, we got to

1134
01:00:17.840 --> 01:00:20.039
<v Speaker 11>win this game, and your focus this isn't as much

1135
01:00:20.039 --> 01:00:24.440
<v Speaker 11>on school that week. But again for football, probably not

1136
01:00:24.679 --> 01:00:27.639
<v Speaker 11>as big of a difference because you're traveling once a week.

1137
01:00:27.719 --> 01:00:31.000
<v Speaker 11>Some weeks you're home. Well, really, I think is going

1138
01:00:31.079 --> 01:00:35.639
<v Speaker 11>to be a big issue is something like baseball, because

1139
01:00:35.679 --> 01:00:38.760
<v Speaker 11>a lot of baseball players don't go pro and have

1140
01:00:38.880 --> 01:00:42.280
<v Speaker 11>that same kind of mindset or softball, and they travel

1141
01:00:42.559 --> 01:00:45.920
<v Speaker 11>so much for days in a row. And so this

1142
01:00:45.960 --> 01:00:48.000
<v Speaker 11>will be kind of the first year that I would

1143
01:00:48.039 --> 01:00:51.159
<v Speaker 11>be actually really curious to have some sort of like

1144
01:00:51.280 --> 01:00:54.840
<v Speaker 11>study this year to just see how their academics compare

1145
01:00:55.400 --> 01:00:58.000
<v Speaker 11>to last year. Not saying it can't be done, but

1146
01:00:58.079 --> 01:01:00.679
<v Speaker 11>I've been there. Like studying on the road and on

1147
01:01:00.800 --> 01:01:03.880
<v Speaker 11>a bus and in a hotel is just so different.

1148
01:01:03.920 --> 01:01:06.559
<v Speaker 11>You're so distracted if you're at the same time you

1149
01:01:06.639 --> 01:01:09.199
<v Speaker 11>are out there with all of your friends and your teammates.

1150
01:01:09.679 --> 01:01:13.480
<v Speaker 11>It doesn't feel like a studious environment. You're any test,

1151
01:01:13.519 --> 01:01:16.000
<v Speaker 11>you're taking our procters by your coach. It's just a

1152
01:01:16.039 --> 01:01:20.039
<v Speaker 11>different environment. So for something like baseball or softball for

1153
01:01:20.199 --> 01:01:22.960
<v Speaker 11>days on end, I would be really interested to see

1154
01:01:23.000 --> 01:01:27.199
<v Speaker 11>how that affects academics long term, and then maybe how

1155
01:01:27.239 --> 01:01:31.559
<v Speaker 11>that might reaffect conference alignment later on.

1156
01:01:31.760 --> 01:01:36.039
<v Speaker 1>Yep, Hallie Devora is a reporter anchored WDTVQ and she'll

1157
01:01:36.079 --> 01:01:39.000
<v Speaker 1>be covering all kinds of stuff this weekend, including the

1158
01:01:39.079 --> 01:01:41.760
<v Speaker 1>cats in the Georgia Bulldox. Thanks so much, see you

1159
01:01:41.760 --> 01:01:42.239
<v Speaker 1>next time.

1160
01:01:42.400 --> 01:01:43.199
<v Speaker 11>Thank you so much.

1161
01:01:43.639 --> 01:01:45.280
<v Speaker 1>Well, come back and take a look at a busy

1162
01:01:45.320 --> 01:01:47.519
<v Speaker 1>week a little bit later on Heroes, Fools and Flakes

1163
01:01:47.519 --> 01:01:50.800
<v Speaker 1>on The Big Blue Sider six thirty WLAP Welcome back

1164
01:01:50.800 --> 01:01:53.719
<v Speaker 1>to the Big Blue Insider. Happy birthday. As I mentioned

1165
01:01:53.760 --> 01:01:57.639
<v Speaker 1>to my brother today, my sister yesterday, mine Sunday, I

1166
01:01:57.679 --> 01:02:02.079
<v Speaker 1>share a birthday with Dan Marino former Dolphins QB and

1167
01:02:02.199 --> 01:02:07.119
<v Speaker 1>my sister shared a birthday with Sydney Sweeney yesterday. My

1168
01:02:07.360 --> 01:02:11.280
<v Speaker 1>brother shares a birthday today with, among other people, John Shelby.

1169
01:02:11.320 --> 01:02:15.840
<v Speaker 1>That's right, t Bone Shelby of Lexington, who played for

1170
01:02:16.039 --> 01:02:19.440
<v Speaker 1>three different teams in the Big Leagues. He played for

1171
01:02:19.519 --> 01:02:25.039
<v Speaker 1>the Orioles, the Tigers, and the Dodgers, and not a

1172
01:02:25.079 --> 01:02:28.679
<v Speaker 1>superstar player, but he played in more than a thousand games,

1173
01:02:29.400 --> 01:02:34.039
<v Speaker 1>had more than three thousand at bats seventy home runs.

1174
01:02:34.639 --> 01:02:39.239
<v Speaker 1>But most importantly he won two World Series, one of

1175
01:02:39.280 --> 01:02:43.079
<v Speaker 1>the Orioles, one with the Dodgers. So t Bone Shelby,

1176
01:02:43.079 --> 01:02:48.320
<v Speaker 1>whose sons all played at Kentucky. Happy birthday to t Bone,

1177
01:02:48.320 --> 01:02:53.039
<v Speaker 1>the Shelby family. Great family, and of course we always

1178
01:02:53.079 --> 01:02:56.719
<v Speaker 1>called them the first family of baseball here in Lexington.

1179
01:02:56.800 --> 01:03:01.000
<v Speaker 1>So happiest to Happy birthdays to John Shelby. Also on

1180
01:03:01.039 --> 01:03:05.119
<v Speaker 1>this date, it's a big date. Nineteen seventy three, ABC

1181
01:03:05.239 --> 01:03:10.199
<v Speaker 1>announced it obtained TV rights for the nineteen seventy six Olympics,

1182
01:03:10.199 --> 01:03:14.880
<v Speaker 1>putting Rune Arledge in charge of the coverage and television

1183
01:03:14.960 --> 01:03:19.000
<v Speaker 1>change forever. That's where up Close and Personal was born.

1184
01:03:20.159 --> 01:03:25.800
<v Speaker 1>And I don't care who's had the game since then, ABC, NBC, CBS,

1185
01:03:26.320 --> 01:03:28.079
<v Speaker 1>I forgive me, I don't know if Fox has ever

1186
01:03:28.119 --> 01:03:31.639
<v Speaker 1>had it. ESPN's got a lot of stuff. But they

1187
01:03:31.679 --> 01:03:34.000
<v Speaker 1>set the standard because it used to be, of course,

1188
01:03:34.159 --> 01:03:38.679
<v Speaker 1>just showing the competition. ABC turned the camera around away

1189
01:03:39.280 --> 01:03:43.480
<v Speaker 1>from the playing surface and began to concentrate more as

1190
01:03:43.599 --> 01:03:48.519
<v Speaker 1>much on the athletes and their personalities themselves, and again

1191
01:03:48.639 --> 01:03:51.599
<v Speaker 1>set the new standard. And they still live by that standard.

1192
01:03:51.719 --> 01:03:56.280
<v Speaker 1>Any network that has the games now. They started at

1193
01:03:56.280 --> 01:03:59.119
<v Speaker 1>ABC back in seventy three when they got the rights

1194
01:03:59.400 --> 01:04:02.920
<v Speaker 1>for the seventy six Olympics and immediately began working on

1195
01:04:03.000 --> 01:04:07.199
<v Speaker 1>those games. Here's a huge one also in nineteen seventy three,

1196
01:04:07.480 --> 01:04:12.239
<v Speaker 1>US Congress passes and sends a bill to Nixon and

1197
01:04:12.280 --> 01:04:17.760
<v Speaker 1>he signs it. Big football fan lifting NFL Football's television

1198
01:04:17.880 --> 01:04:22.639
<v Speaker 1>blackout of sold out games. Can you imagine back in

1199
01:04:22.679 --> 01:04:25.159
<v Speaker 1>the day. And people still deal with blackouts now and then,

1200
01:04:26.000 --> 01:04:28.760
<v Speaker 1>but back then, even if your game, local game was

1201
01:04:28.800 --> 01:04:32.639
<v Speaker 1>sold out, it was blacked out in your area. Not

1202
01:04:32.800 --> 01:04:36.079
<v Speaker 1>a popular rule, but they had the right president in

1203
01:04:36.159 --> 01:04:39.719
<v Speaker 1>office all right. Earlier this week, in fact, it was yesterday,

1204
01:04:39.760 --> 01:04:42.559
<v Speaker 1>Tom Lee, chip cor and I got together south of

1205
01:04:42.559 --> 01:04:47.119
<v Speaker 1>Wrigley over on Southland Drive. If you like ballpark style

1206
01:04:47.239 --> 01:04:50.840
<v Speaker 1>hot dogs, chili dogs, Italian sausage, they got a great

1207
01:04:50.920 --> 01:04:54.440
<v Speaker 1>chicken palm sandwich. Try south of Wrigley. Go look for

1208
01:04:54.519 --> 01:04:58.039
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky ol Kentucky Chocolates, and then just slide on down

1209
01:04:58.480 --> 01:05:01.039
<v Speaker 1>in the parking lot and they're South Wriggley right there.

1210
01:05:01.480 --> 01:05:01.559
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

1211
01:05:01.760 --> 01:05:06.400
<v Speaker 1>We tape the Wildcat whip at South the Wrigley and

1212
01:05:06.480 --> 01:05:08.079
<v Speaker 1>Tom and Jeff and I got to get her to

1213
01:05:08.119 --> 01:05:11.719
<v Speaker 1>talk first of all about food, but then about the

1214
01:05:11.760 --> 01:05:12.920
<v Speaker 1>football Wildcats.

1215
01:05:13.039 --> 01:05:15.119
<v Speaker 3>I got to remember getting at Wriggley Field one time

1216
01:05:15.159 --> 01:05:17.880
<v Speaker 3>an Italian sausage peppers and on your and you can

1217
01:05:17.880 --> 01:05:18.360
<v Speaker 3>get that here.

1218
01:05:18.679 --> 01:05:19.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1219
01:05:19.079 --> 01:05:22.239
<v Speaker 12>Look, the key the key to any great sandwich wherever,

1220
01:05:22.320 --> 01:05:24.440
<v Speaker 12>you don't care where you is the bread. Yeah, if

1221
01:05:24.519 --> 01:05:26.719
<v Speaker 12>you got good bread, that's half the battle.

1222
01:05:26.800 --> 01:05:29.320
<v Speaker 1>They got it here at South there Wriggley. It's not

1223
01:05:29.360 --> 01:05:32.840
<v Speaker 1>gonna be easy for the Wildcats Saturday. But we all

1224
01:05:32.880 --> 01:05:35.199
<v Speaker 1>know that it's a bit of an understatement. Yes, thank

1225
01:05:35.239 --> 01:05:37.800
<v Speaker 1>you very much. Well, I have covered football for a while,

1226
01:05:39.000 --> 01:05:41.320
<v Speaker 1>but and I've said it a week on my show.

1227
01:05:41.320 --> 01:05:43.679
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure we have to. And Jeff, you or you've

1228
01:05:43.719 --> 01:05:47.480
<v Speaker 1>been there players are resilient, and on top of that,

1229
01:05:47.519 --> 01:05:49.320
<v Speaker 1>they don't have any choice. They got to look at

1230
01:05:49.400 --> 01:05:51.800
<v Speaker 1>They can't dwell on what happened last week.

1231
01:05:51.920 --> 01:05:54.000
<v Speaker 3>And you can get embarrassed when you're playing a team

1232
01:05:54.039 --> 01:05:56.239
<v Speaker 3>like this if you go you know, if you're kind

1233
01:05:56.280 --> 01:05:58.480
<v Speaker 3>of licking your wounds, so to speak. I always point

1234
01:05:58.519 --> 01:06:01.159
<v Speaker 3>this out when it's when it's a situation like this,

1235
01:06:02.760 --> 01:06:04.440
<v Speaker 3>it's the craziest set of scores. I don't know if

1236
01:06:04.440 --> 01:06:06.360
<v Speaker 3>the three of us have talked about this before. You

1237
01:06:06.400 --> 01:06:09.840
<v Speaker 3>go back to and Kentucky had guys like Joe Fettersfield,

1238
01:06:09.880 --> 01:06:12.519
<v Speaker 3>Frankle Master of the team, Houston Hog, I think maybe

1239
01:06:12.559 --> 01:06:15.840
<v Speaker 3>Wilver Hackett. I think it was nineteen sixty nine. They

1240
01:06:16.039 --> 01:06:19.719
<v Speaker 3>opened the season on regional TV against Indiana, being on

1241
01:06:19.800 --> 01:06:21.840
<v Speaker 3>TV big deal, hadn't been on the TV for years.

1242
01:06:22.000 --> 01:06:25.360
<v Speaker 3>Lose fifty eight to thirty to Indiana in the first game.

1243
01:06:25.760 --> 01:06:28.599
<v Speaker 3>Next week, Archie Manning and Ole Miss come to town,

1244
01:06:28.800 --> 01:06:30.599
<v Speaker 3>an Ole Miss team that would go on to win

1245
01:06:30.679 --> 01:06:33.599
<v Speaker 3>the Sugar Bowl, and Kentucky beat some ten to nine.

1246
01:06:33.920 --> 01:06:37.440
<v Speaker 3>That makes no sense fifty eight to Indiana, nine to

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01:06:37.519 --> 01:06:41.079
<v Speaker 3>Archie Manning and Old Miss. So if those two sets

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<v Speaker 3>of scores could once have happened in the history of

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01:06:43.519 --> 01:06:45.800
<v Speaker 3>the world. Then you hang your hat on.

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01:06:45.800 --> 01:06:47.960
<v Speaker 12>Hope with a Phil Grier interception.

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01:06:48.239 --> 01:06:51.119
<v Speaker 3>Oh really off a batting you know what.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember delivering newspapers listening to that Indiana game, and

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01:06:56.119 --> 01:06:59.480
<v Speaker 1>it was so exciting, but I kept thinking, when is

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01:06:59.480 --> 01:07:01.679
<v Speaker 1>it going to stay? When are they gonna stop Indiana

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01:07:01.719 --> 01:07:04.119
<v Speaker 1>from scoring? Because Kentucky was scaring all right, and then

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01:07:04.559 --> 01:07:06.000
<v Speaker 1>here come the Hoosiers. I'm like, God, come on.

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<v Speaker 3>And Indiana was good in those days. Yeah, they were

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01:07:07.880 --> 01:07:09.519
<v Speaker 3>about two years removed from one of the Rose Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>But then I read about I was I didn't come

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01:07:12.039 --> 01:07:14.119
<v Speaker 1>to a Kentucky football game till I was in college,

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01:07:14.400 --> 01:07:16.679
<v Speaker 1>but then read about what happened next week. It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's start with what happened last week. Obviously, Uh, Jeff,

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01:07:22.079 --> 01:07:24.119
<v Speaker 1>you always mentioned you talk about it in the post

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01:07:24.199 --> 01:07:28.079
<v Speaker 1>game set the edge South Carolina owned, the edge, didn't.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, and you know, Tom and I were just talking

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01:07:29.760 --> 01:07:32.159
<v Speaker 12>a little bit about it. And there were plays where

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01:07:32.360 --> 01:07:35.280
<v Speaker 12>Kentucky used a tight end and a back to chip.

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<v Speaker 12>What what a chip is is so the tight end

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01:07:38.000 --> 01:07:40.559
<v Speaker 12>is gonna go out, but before he does, he slams

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01:07:40.599 --> 01:07:43.679
<v Speaker 12>into that defensive end. And then the back steps up

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01:07:43.760 --> 01:07:46.840
<v Speaker 12>like you know, and like he's gonna buck slams into

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01:07:46.960 --> 01:07:50.199
<v Speaker 12>him and then he takes off. So the tackle is

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01:07:50.239 --> 01:07:52.000
<v Speaker 12>engaged with him and the other guy's come up on

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01:07:52.039 --> 01:07:54.719
<v Speaker 12>whack him a couple of times, and it's supposed to

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01:07:54.760 --> 01:07:57.719
<v Speaker 12>slow him down, and you know, but there were times

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01:07:57.719 --> 01:07:58.960
<v Speaker 12>when that, especially the fresh.

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01:07:58.800 --> 01:07:59.920
<v Speaker 3>Ball, went right through three guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you can hear the entire Wildcat Whip on my

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01:08:04.320 --> 01:08:07.679
<v Speaker 1>Facebook page. I believe Tom has shared it on his.

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01:08:08.000 --> 01:08:10.559
<v Speaker 1>Also you can go to x or Twitter and hear

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01:08:10.599 --> 01:08:13.920
<v Speaker 1>it via the UK Sports Network. But it's just basically

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01:08:14.440 --> 01:08:17.399
<v Speaker 1>an extended version of the conversation that Tom and Jeff

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01:08:17.439 --> 01:08:20.359
<v Speaker 1>and I have pregame that's only a couple of minutes long.

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01:08:20.680 --> 01:08:23.159
<v Speaker 1>So we thought we would get together each week before

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01:08:23.199 --> 01:08:26.159
<v Speaker 1>the game, before the broadcast and share with you an

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01:08:26.159 --> 01:08:29.319
<v Speaker 1>extended version of our thoughts. We call it, of course,

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01:08:29.399 --> 01:08:34.319
<v Speaker 1>the Wildcat Whip. I mentioned earlier that Paul Finebaum did

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01:08:34.359 --> 01:08:37.279
<v Speaker 1>not have a lot of use for Tom Brady's debut.

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01:08:37.399 --> 01:08:40.159
<v Speaker 1>He compared it to Nick Saban's and again, they were

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01:08:40.199 --> 01:08:44.319
<v Speaker 1>doing totally different jobs. And Saban, who has spoken to

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01:08:44.840 --> 01:08:48.479
<v Speaker 1>hundreds and thousands of football players breaking down video it's

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01:08:48.520 --> 01:08:51.640
<v Speaker 1>exactly what he did for ESPN, and as you might expect,

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01:08:51.640 --> 01:08:54.359
<v Speaker 1>he did a great job. What impressed me the most, though,

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01:08:54.399 --> 01:08:57.520
<v Speaker 1>was he seemed very comfortable doing it, very at ease

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01:08:57.600 --> 01:09:00.439
<v Speaker 1>for a guy who at times has sparred with him media.

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01:09:00.960 --> 01:09:03.640
<v Speaker 1>But he's a team player, clearly. I mean that's why

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01:09:03.720 --> 01:09:07.920
<v Speaker 1>quick coaching, because players have become anything but team players.

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01:09:07.920 --> 01:09:11.199
<v Speaker 1>Some guys in this day of nil When players came

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01:09:11.239 --> 01:09:13.680
<v Speaker 1>to him at the end of his last season with

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<v Speaker 1>their hands out looking for even more money, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm out and became a broadcaster. And he's a good one,

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01:09:19.479 --> 01:09:22.399
<v Speaker 1>and Brady probably will become a good one. He's got

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01:09:22.399 --> 01:09:24.239
<v Speaker 1>a good sense of humor. That's a good start, and

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01:09:24.319 --> 01:09:27.399
<v Speaker 1>obviously knows the game. But somebody else who weighed in

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01:09:27.479 --> 01:09:31.880
<v Speaker 1>on it, Jim Nance, one of the deans of sportscasting

1306
01:09:32.159 --> 01:09:35.039
<v Speaker 1>and of course has done games for CBS forever, did

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01:09:35.039 --> 01:09:38.119
<v Speaker 1>not see Brady's game because he was working at the

1308
01:09:38.159 --> 01:09:43.199
<v Speaker 1>same time. But he is. He knows Brady well. He's

1309
01:09:43.239 --> 01:09:47.680
<v Speaker 1>been in countless pregame meetings with him, regular season, playoffs,

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01:09:47.760 --> 01:09:51.119
<v Speaker 1>super Bowl. He knows how smart the guy is. And

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01:09:51.479 --> 01:09:54.600
<v Speaker 1>Brady said he believed, or rather Nance said he believes

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01:09:54.640 --> 01:09:57.000
<v Speaker 1>Brady will be fine. Just give him time.

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<v Speaker 9>I would have liked to have heard it, but I'm

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01:09:59.760 --> 01:10:01.960
<v Speaker 9>gonna forward to hearing him down the road. I'll hear

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01:10:02.039 --> 01:10:03.680
<v Speaker 9>him this week, in fact, because I've got the late game,

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01:10:03.720 --> 01:10:05.920
<v Speaker 9>he's going to be up early. I've talked to Tom

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01:10:05.960 --> 01:10:10.399
<v Speaker 9>a lot leading into this season, and he has called

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01:10:10.399 --> 01:10:13.840
<v Speaker 9>on many broadcasters to get their insights into what it's

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01:10:13.920 --> 01:10:16.239
<v Speaker 9>like in the booth, how to prepare, how fast the

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01:10:16.279 --> 01:10:19.199
<v Speaker 9>game moves. So I know he's going to be really

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01:10:19.199 --> 01:10:21.119
<v Speaker 9>good at this. I don't have any doubt, and I'm

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01:10:21.159 --> 01:10:23.720
<v Speaker 9>certainly not going to make any judgments without having seen him.

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01:10:23.880 --> 01:10:25.760
<v Speaker 9>And even if I did see him, which I didn't,

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01:10:26.319 --> 01:10:30.239
<v Speaker 9>I wouldn't draw any conclusions after one game. Tom Brady

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01:10:30.960 --> 01:10:32.680
<v Speaker 9>will will be very good at this.

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<v Speaker 1>I think so. But he will remain a lightning rod.

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01:10:35.800 --> 01:10:39.680
<v Speaker 1>He will remain a target. He will be the subject

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01:10:39.760 --> 01:10:44.119
<v Speaker 1>of critics every week, and unfortunately, I think it won't

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01:10:44.159 --> 01:10:47.079
<v Speaker 1>be a situation where we check out and then come

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01:10:47.119 --> 01:10:49.159
<v Speaker 1>back and check on him later. I think that there

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01:10:49.159 --> 01:10:52.159
<v Speaker 1>are going to be people posting every week why because

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01:10:52.159 --> 01:10:54.880
<v Speaker 1>he's Tom Brady and because they paid him in an

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01:10:54.880 --> 01:10:59.560
<v Speaker 1>insane amount of money, but just if you're not interested

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01:10:59.600 --> 01:11:01.920
<v Speaker 1>in this or he look away, I'm not going to

1335
01:11:02.039 --> 01:11:04.520
<v Speaker 1>harp on it, but I'll come back later in the

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01:11:04.600 --> 01:11:06.960
<v Speaker 1>year and try to figure out if the guy has

1337
01:11:07.000 --> 01:11:09.600
<v Speaker 1>gotten any better. But as I said the other day,

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01:11:10.239 --> 01:11:13.359
<v Speaker 1>none of us in this line of work we'll put

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01:11:13.439 --> 01:11:16.279
<v Speaker 1>the first time we're on the air. I'm sure Saban's

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01:11:16.279 --> 01:11:19.319
<v Speaker 1>critical of himself, but he had a great debut, as

1341
01:11:19.359 --> 01:11:23.000
<v Speaker 1>did Tony Romo. But ninety nine percent of us, we'll

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01:11:23.000 --> 01:11:25.600
<v Speaker 1>tell you that the first time we tried whatever it

1343
01:11:25.720 --> 01:11:29.760
<v Speaker 1>is we're doing as broadcasters, we stunk. But that's how

1344
01:11:29.760 --> 01:11:33.239
<v Speaker 1>you get better. I mean, when I was doing scripted sportscast,

1345
01:11:33.359 --> 01:11:35.520
<v Speaker 1>I knew I wasn't any good at it, and so

1346
01:11:35.920 --> 01:11:40.880
<v Speaker 1>a guy in the business recognized something in me and said,

1347
01:11:40.920 --> 01:11:43.600
<v Speaker 1>bring me some scripts, and he tore them to shreds

1348
01:11:43.640 --> 01:11:46.079
<v Speaker 1>and went over them with me. Made me feel like

1349
01:11:46.119 --> 01:11:48.840
<v Speaker 1>I was about eight inches high. But he told me

1350
01:11:48.880 --> 01:11:51.800
<v Speaker 1>specifically what to do and how to get better, and

1351
01:11:52.079 --> 01:11:54.039
<v Speaker 1>I know I did. I don't know how good I got,

1352
01:11:54.800 --> 01:11:57.239
<v Speaker 1>but I know I got better. Same thing with play

1353
01:11:57.239 --> 01:11:59.760
<v Speaker 1>by play. Van Vance was a great mentor to me

1354
01:11:59.800 --> 01:12:03.199
<v Speaker 1>over in Louisville and growing up listening to and then

1355
01:12:03.239 --> 01:12:06.960
<v Speaker 1>working with Kayle Lefford, you can't help but get better.

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01:12:07.800 --> 01:12:10.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if Brady, with all the ball he

1357
01:12:10.840 --> 01:12:15.800
<v Speaker 1>has played, has ever spent much time paying attention to

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01:12:15.920 --> 01:12:21.279
<v Speaker 1>people that he admires doing the gay job he's trying

1359
01:12:21.319 --> 01:12:24.720
<v Speaker 1>to do now, I hope in preparing for this, I

1360
01:12:24.720 --> 01:12:27.920
<v Speaker 1>know he's talked to a lot of guys, but the

1361
01:12:27.960 --> 01:12:30.520
<v Speaker 1>best thing he could do is go back and listen

1362
01:12:31.079 --> 01:12:36.199
<v Speaker 1>to different analysts and figure out why he likes them.

1363
01:12:36.239 --> 01:12:38.439
<v Speaker 1>What did they do, how do they say it? Don't

1364
01:12:38.479 --> 01:12:43.359
<v Speaker 1>steal from them, but use them as an example, and

1365
01:12:43.399 --> 01:12:45.720
<v Speaker 1>if he's as smart as I think he is, I

1366
01:12:45.840 --> 01:12:49.680
<v Speaker 1>believe he will indeed do that. Up next, Heroes Fools

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01:12:49.680 --> 01:12:52.560
<v Speaker 1>and Flakes on the Big Blue Insiders six thirty WLAP

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back, final segment of our program, and a reminder

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01:12:55.680 --> 01:13:00.640
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky Football Kickoff seven thirty five thirty pregame Christy and

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01:13:00.760 --> 01:13:03.880
<v Speaker 1>Jeremy and Logan and Jeff and Tom and I will

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01:13:03.920 --> 01:13:07.399
<v Speaker 1>have the call for youa Kentucky taking on those Georgia Bulldogs.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple other notes for it before we get the

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01:13:09.479 --> 01:13:13.640
<v Speaker 1>Heroes Fools in Flakes. Aja Wilson breaking the WNBA single

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01:13:13.720 --> 01:13:16.720
<v Speaker 1>season scoring record and there are more records in front

1375
01:13:16.760 --> 01:13:20.199
<v Speaker 1>of her. But it is quite the conundrum if you're

1376
01:13:20.279 --> 01:13:25.960
<v Speaker 1>voting for MVP Caitlin Clark and Asia Wilson. They both

1377
01:13:26.039 --> 01:13:29.439
<v Speaker 1>keep breaking records and setting new marks and new standards.

1378
01:13:29.439 --> 01:13:31.840
<v Speaker 1>You could make the argument that Wilson's been a little

1379
01:13:31.840 --> 01:13:35.920
<v Speaker 1>more consistent, but Caitlin Clark Man, the thing she has

1380
01:13:35.960 --> 01:13:40.800
<v Speaker 1>done since that snub by the Olympic team has torn

1381
01:13:40.880 --> 01:13:43.079
<v Speaker 1>that league up. And if you're talking about the MVP

1382
01:13:43.439 --> 01:13:48.039
<v Speaker 1>in the league, who's more important to her team? Well,

1383
01:13:48.079 --> 01:13:51.159
<v Speaker 1>who's more important than Asia Wilson to her team? Again,

1384
01:13:51.199 --> 01:13:53.439
<v Speaker 1>I could see them sharing the award. I really could

1385
01:13:53.960 --> 01:13:55.520
<v Speaker 1>the MVP. I don't know if they'll do that. I

1386
01:13:55.520 --> 01:13:57.680
<v Speaker 1>don't know if they're allowed to do that, but I

1387
01:13:57.720 --> 01:14:01.159
<v Speaker 1>could see it happening. Couple of other NBA are NFL notes. Rather,

1388
01:14:01.640 --> 01:14:05.079
<v Speaker 1>the Bengals are looking at a rough start because they

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01:14:05.119 --> 01:14:09.239
<v Speaker 1>play at Kansas City on Sunday and they may be

1390
01:14:09.319 --> 01:14:11.560
<v Speaker 1>looking at another zero to two start. And I say

1391
01:14:11.560 --> 01:14:14.800
<v Speaker 1>another because the Bengals in the first two weeks of

1392
01:14:14.840 --> 01:14:20.119
<v Speaker 1>the season under Zach Taylor are one in ten. Joe

1393
01:14:20.119 --> 01:14:24.159
<v Speaker 1>Burrow himself is one in three, and Burrow, of course

1394
01:14:24.239 --> 01:14:28.279
<v Speaker 1>had the wrist surgery in the off season, ligament damage,

1395
01:14:29.000 --> 01:14:31.680
<v Speaker 1>and people who watch such things say that they thought

1396
01:14:31.720 --> 01:14:33.920
<v Speaker 1>he was flexing his wrist in a kind of a

1397
01:14:33.920 --> 01:14:38.079
<v Speaker 1>weird way. Maybe he's still hurting. Burrow has said, no,

1398
01:14:38.319 --> 01:14:40.880
<v Speaker 1>that's because of the surgery and I'm just trying to

1399
01:14:40.960 --> 01:14:44.239
<v Speaker 1>keep it mobile and that's what you do. So keep

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01:14:44.239 --> 01:14:47.159
<v Speaker 1>an eye on them Bengals out in Kansas City. I

1401
01:14:47.199 --> 01:14:50.760
<v Speaker 1>know you will. My Packers probably without Jordan Love for

1402
01:14:50.800 --> 01:14:53.279
<v Speaker 1>the next few weeks. But then made Lafloor, the coach

1403
01:14:53.279 --> 01:14:56.039
<v Speaker 1>says the door is open for him playing. You talk

1404
01:14:56.079 --> 01:14:59.199
<v Speaker 1>about a mixed message. No, it's gonna be Malik Willis

1405
01:14:59.279 --> 01:15:01.079
<v Speaker 1>and it's not gonna to be good with all due

1406
01:15:01.079 --> 01:15:05.359
<v Speaker 1>respect in my opinion. All right, our hero tonight, as

1407
01:15:05.359 --> 01:15:08.520
<v Speaker 1>we go to heroes, fools and flakes, I'm going old school.

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01:15:08.560 --> 01:15:12.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm going back to twenty oh six. Trevard Linley got

1409
01:15:12.199 --> 01:15:14.920
<v Speaker 1>the interception. Now wasn't the only play. It wasn't the

1410
01:15:14.960 --> 01:15:17.359
<v Speaker 1>only big play. I heard Rich Brooks talk about that

1411
01:15:17.760 --> 01:15:20.479
<v Speaker 1>last night on the show. They made so many big

1412
01:15:20.520 --> 01:15:24.560
<v Speaker 1>plays in that game. Roger Williams with an interception at

1413
01:15:24.560 --> 01:15:27.359
<v Speaker 1>the end of the first half, tipped by Trevard Lindley

1414
01:15:27.640 --> 01:15:31.439
<v Speaker 1>Tony Dixon with a huge effort that ended up with

1415
01:15:31.479 --> 01:15:33.720
<v Speaker 1>the game winning touchdown. He carried the ball in almost

1416
01:15:33.760 --> 01:15:37.479
<v Speaker 1>every play, including a touchdown they put the Lolcats ahead.

1417
01:15:37.760 --> 01:15:41.640
<v Speaker 1>Were good, but Trevard Lindley had the signature play at

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01:15:41.640 --> 01:15:45.119
<v Speaker 1>the end, the interception that locked up the win off

1419
01:15:45.119 --> 01:15:48.960
<v Speaker 1>a freshman quarterback named Matthew Stafford. Victory number six sent

1420
01:15:49.039 --> 01:15:52.439
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky to a bowl game and brought the goalpost down.

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01:15:53.199 --> 01:15:56.319
<v Speaker 13>Stafford retreats plenty of time out the protections breaking down,

1422
01:15:56.319 --> 01:16:09.760
<v Speaker 13>he slides right, he throws.

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01:16:04.920 --> 01:16:07.359
<v Speaker 1>And that was fun, And so was going to the

1424
01:16:07.399 --> 01:16:10.520
<v Speaker 1>bowl game and covering Kentucky's upset of Clemson. It all

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01:16:10.640 --> 01:16:14.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of ran together in twenty oh six. Our Full Tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure the guy's name Our Full Tonight. There's

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01:16:19.119 --> 01:16:21.359
<v Speaker 1>a couple of them. One of them is a suspect

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01:16:21.359 --> 01:16:24.239
<v Speaker 1>that hit and run crash arrest of Thursday night. He

1429
01:16:24.319 --> 01:16:27.800
<v Speaker 1>drove his truck onto the playing field at Fulsom Field

1430
01:16:28.279 --> 01:16:32.680
<v Speaker 1>at the University of Colorado running away from police. Carl

1431
01:16:32.880 --> 01:16:38.520
<v Speaker 1>Haglund from Massachusetts found his way somehow in his truck

1432
01:16:38.880 --> 01:16:42.520
<v Speaker 1>onto the playing field. So maybe the fool also is

1433
01:16:42.520 --> 01:16:44.319
<v Speaker 1>a guy who's supposed to lock the gate there. I

1434
01:16:44.319 --> 01:16:48.840
<v Speaker 1>don't know. But also really the bigger fool is Derek Bender,

1435
01:16:48.880 --> 01:16:52.760
<v Speaker 1>a minor league catcher with the Minnesota Twins, released Thursday

1436
01:16:53.279 --> 01:16:57.279
<v Speaker 1>after according to sources, he told opposing hitters the types

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01:16:57.319 --> 01:17:00.600
<v Speaker 1>of pitches that were coming to the plate during bats

1438
01:17:00.640 --> 01:17:03.920
<v Speaker 1>in the game last week, which eliminated his team from

1439
01:17:03.960 --> 01:17:07.720
<v Speaker 1>playoff contention. This is reported by ESPN six round draft

1440
01:17:07.720 --> 01:17:12.760
<v Speaker 1>pick out of Coastal Carolina. He supposedly wanted the season

1441
01:17:12.960 --> 01:17:18.000
<v Speaker 1>over and so he was telling opposing batters the specific

1442
01:17:18.119 --> 01:17:22.039
<v Speaker 1>pitches being thrown by the starter, Ross Dunn. They found

1443
01:17:22.039 --> 01:17:25.279
<v Speaker 1>out about it after the facts, so they cut the guy,

1444
01:17:25.399 --> 01:17:29.640
<v Speaker 1>and why not. He's done, he won't play professional baseball again.

1445
01:17:30.119 --> 01:17:33.520
<v Speaker 1>And our flake, well, this is just playing weird ray Gun,

1446
01:17:33.880 --> 01:17:38.640
<v Speaker 1>the viral Australian Olympic breakdancer. She was ranked number one

1447
01:17:38.680 --> 01:17:41.279
<v Speaker 1>in the world by the sport and I used that loosely,

1448
01:17:41.800 --> 01:17:46.399
<v Speaker 1>the sports governing body. They said that she earned the

1449
01:17:46.439 --> 01:17:49.920
<v Speaker 1>top spot after she came in first at the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three Oceania Continental Championships. I don't really have a

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<v Speaker 1>dog in this fight, but I got to tell you

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<v Speaker 1>after saying what she did at the I think that

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<v Speaker 1>they probably haven't ranked anybody since those Oceania Continental championships

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<v Speaker 1>because man, what she did in the Olympics was pretty flaky.

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<v Speaker 1>That's going to do it. Thanks to my guest justin Rowland,

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<v Speaker 1>Hallie DeVore that said good night from the garage and

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<v Speaker 1>Alexi Dion.

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<v Speaker 10>I wasn't thinking about form or team, or celebration or score.

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<v Speaker 5>I literally was walking.

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<v Speaker 10>And I promise this is your true The only thought

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<v Speaker 10>that came in my mind was if I don't make this,

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<v Speaker 10>they are going.

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<v Speaker 12>To kill me.

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<v Speaker 3>Sand
