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in Gaza City. We knew this was coming for a while,
mainly because the Israeli said, we're going to invade Gaza City,
which is one of the last strongholds for Hamas. And
this from the Jerusalem Post that reports the IDF will
intensify its activity in Gaza City until Hamas agree to
end the war on Israel's terms. This is according to
the Defense Minister Israel katz. He added that Israel has
issued an evacuation noticed to a multi story terror building
in Gaza City. Update it's leveled. It was a high
rise building and the video has been released. Took three
hits and it collapsed. The IDF distributed evacuation leaflets for
the Radwuan neighborhood in Gaza City, according to Channel twelve. Meanwhile, Hamas,
knowing that the strike was coming because Israel gave them
like an hour heads up on it. Knowing that the
strike was coming, Hamas released videos of more hostages. Just
step back and think about why they would do such
a thing. Why would Hamas do that. They are trying
to stop the invasion of Gaza City. They don't want
Israeli forces to invade it and to kill all the
Hamas Holas, so they say, hey, hey, hey, if you
try to do anything here, we still got a couple
of your guys alive in here, and we're totally gonna
put them like right in front of us. So if
we die, they die. Knowing that Israelis try to save
all of the hostages and try to, as is their faith,
to bring back all of the bodies. That's sort of
their national creed, and Hamas uses this against them. This
is why they can murder all of the hostages and
still hold the bodies for ransom, essentially because the Israelis
want the bodies back. Hamas knows this, and so they
can keep a couple alive kill everybody else like they
did with the Beebus family, mother and two infant children
that were beaten and strangled to death, and then their
bodies put into boxes, brought out for a mass public celebration,
very well attended, candy being distributed among all of the Gosins,
songs being sung, everybody very happy at the dead Jews.
And so that's how they use the Israeli morality against them.
They weaponize that against them. So they released another video
of a man named Guy Gilboa Delal, as well as
another hostage. However, that second hostages family requested that he
not be named so far. Hamas wrote on their telegram
channel where they published the videos, quote time is running out.
In the video, Gilboa Delal said that he couldn't believe
he was still alive after twenty two months of war,
and that he was being held in Gaza City. He
stated that he and the remaining hostages would remain in
Gaza City during the upcoming IDF operation and that Hamas
would move them to wherever the IDF operates. Right, think
about who Israel is fighting. What do you do if
you've got an enemy that refuses to surrender, refuses to
stop killing innocent civilians on your side and puts hostages
your kidnapped people, civilians that were dancing at a party,
and puts them in front of their enemy forces, puts
them anywhere your soldiers go in to try to fight Hamas.
How do you fight that? Like, this is the thing
I have never understood from the anti israel people or
the pro Hamas people, or whoever you want to frame
you at this point, I'd like, I don't care. I've
been very clear about this from the very beginning. There's
nothing you can say to me that is in defense
of the anti Israeli position, that's in defense of Hamas,
Like I am immune to these arguments. Maybe that's a
bit of a maybe that's a bit of a blind spot,
but no, I saw October seventh, and I have no
use or need to hear any of your excuses for
this any longer. I've been watching this, and I've been
doing a lot of research and reading for the last
twenty four years, since nine to eleven. So I have
a pretty clear idea. I have moral clarity on who
the enemy is, and you may not. That's fine, until
it won't be for you, But I do, and so no,
I don't have any any tolerance for the arguments of
how you're supposed to fight this kind of barbarism that
Hamas is displaying. And by the way, what Hamas is
displaying is the barbarism of Isis and al Qaida, and
all of that barbarism is doctrinal or doctrinyl. If that's
how you prefer the pronunciation, I don't. But like these stories,
they are animated by the stories of their ideology. Right,
these methods and tactics have been employed since around five
or six hundred AD. Right, it's not new. It just
repeats over and over and over and over and over again.
The slaughtering, the raping, the hostage taking, the sex, slaving,
all of it. It's the same, over and over and
over again. There's been no reformation in this ideology. Okay,
so uh, how do you how do you expect Israel
to go in try to get its hostages back with
an enemy that believes the murder of every Jew is
the way that they prove Allah loves them. How do
you do that? They don't care. It's not that like
the Israelis would have been prior to October seventh, they
would have accepted a two state solution they kept negotiating
for it for decades. But the Gazans do not want that.
The West Bankers do not want that. They do not
want two states. They want one state controlled by them,
where they can then eradicate all of the Jews, because
the Jews kicked their asses many times since they got
their own country. And that's the catastrophe, or as they
call it, the knakba. And they have Westerners condensed that
this meant that, oh, we lost our land. Oh it's
the catastrophe. The catastrophe was that second class citizens, not
even the dogs, the Jewish dogs, the second class people.
They weren't even allowed to own property, and they beat us.
That's the catastrophe. That means Allah doesn't like them, or
something like it. They've got to now fix this, and
they've been endeavoring to do so. So Israel began their
operations about two weeks ago actually with planes and tanks
pounding sort of the outskirts of Gaza City, taking out buildings.
And they said they're going to go on with this
offensive look. And I can tell you right now, like
the Israelis really don't care what the rest of the
world says. They really don't That's every impression I get
of this is that the Israelis don't care about world opinion.
They do care about American administration opinion, and right now
they've got Donald Trump in the White House, so gloves
are off for them. They don't care. And the reason
they don't care is, like, honestly, why should they care.
You think Israelis care very much about what the Europeans think,
what they're about, what they're doing. I don't you know why,
Because the Europeans were part of the whole Holocaust. They
didn't protect the Jews. So the Jews are going to
protect themselves. And you guys can take every seat. Please
just go ahead and have a seat, Just take them all.
That's my impression on it. But I'm not a Israeli,
so I don't know. That's just my impression on it.
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the phones and sure we'll talk with Kevin. Welcome to
the program. Hello Kevin, I.
Speaker 2: Appreciate you taking my call. Sure, I just wanted to
ask you, well, First of all, listen to all the time,
agree with ninety five percent of what you say almost
every time, and I wanted to ask you that.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 2: First of all, let me be very clear. I know
you're very passionate about this and so on.
Speaker 4: I too.
Speaker 2: Israel has a right to exists as a nation. They
have a right to defend themselves. In fact, I don't
think the United States is quite doing.
Speaker 5: Enough to support Israel.
Speaker 2: But what I wanted my question to you was you
had mentioned this before about how the one option was
to flood the zone with food. And just because I
think you had mentioned that's kind of the currency at
least from the information from Israel that we're getting, correct,
that was one of.
Speaker 1: The well before they before Israel did the humanity or
before they did the blockade, right where they had done
the calculation that already enough food has gone in to
last I think it was like six months or five
months or something like that. So then they said, okay,
now we're going to lock down the food in order
to try to get Hamas to negotiate, and they thought
that would give them a window, and of course it
did not. Hamas did not because they kept playing this
game of believing that Hamas was not trying to kill
its own citizens.
Speaker 5: And they are, Yeah they will.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, they're ruthless, a bunch of folks. They
need to be completely lighted off of it. I agree
on that. My biggest thing is the optics because it
cast the Jews and really in a bad light. You know,
all the Thompson just the news beats it to death
how much people are starving over there, and there may
be something, you know, the truth A lot of times
lives somewhere in the middle. There may be a lot
of starvation going over there, maybe not as bad as
the news would like to tell us, but in the
same vein, if if Israel were to because gusus strip's
nice and long, you can set up food distribution centers
along that outer coast that faces Israel, wouldn't even have
to paste or anything. You basically just flood the zone
with food and what would call like devaluing the currency. Yeah,
quote unquote current right, that was.
Speaker 1: One of the ideas that was pitched. Rather than have
done what they did and make food more scarce, they
what they could have done was to, yeah, flood the
zone and that would devalue food as a currency. But
the idea there again is that that that would have
been something that would have been able to uh to
get Hamas to the bargaining table. But Hamas has no
interest in bargaining.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, I agree. Yeah, they're they're they're in
it because they're they're about to be wiped off the
face of the earth. So I agree with that.
Speaker 1: Well, they and more it's more than that they like
this is their entry into into heaven. So like this there,
it's a win win for them and for all of
the people in their minds, for all of people at Gaza,
for all Muslims, Like this is what they're supposed to
be doing. They're supposed to be wiping out the Jews
and anybody who dies in that cause, yes you're dead,
that stinks, but you're going to heaven where you're going
to be a martyr. So I win. Yeah, So either
I win here on the ground and I get to
rule with an iron fist and subjugate all of the
infidels or the Kaffirs or whatever, like, I get to
impose my will. But if I don't, well then I'm
still in heaven. So it's win win.
Speaker 2: Sure, I was talking about like the Zelots, like you've
got those Zelots that feel that way, but and even
a lot of the Godens because they've it's been indoctrinated
into the children that you know, Israel along those lines
for so many generations.
Speaker 1: By the way, it's not just Israel, it's Jews and
Christians and everybody who is not Muslim.
Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, I was focusing just on h Yeah,
conflict is all of us. Yeah for sure, Yeah, they
hate everybody pretty much is not Muslim. But what I
was getting at was when they flood the Zign, it
gives a better optic also too, they can't have the excuse, well,
you're starving our people, even though it's not Israel doing it.
They have you basically take away the currency because if
you've got a Hamas fighter, he's well, you're paying me
in this food that I got five hundred pounds of
food for my family. You take away their power to
control the people, because that's what they're using that now,
is right, and that.
Speaker 1: Was the but that was a tactic that could have
been employed six months ago. Eight months ago. We're past
that now because remember, tactics changed during war. Each side
is always readjusting and you know, adopting new I mean,
look at the Russia Ukraine war, right, Like they're now
using drones at a scale we have never seen before.
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of articles about that. It's amazing
the US is actually learning from the Ukrainian war. Lots
of great Well it's good and bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean everybody is they weren't, yeah, absolutely, Like
this is what this is going to be, the modern
iteration warfare with you know, cheap drones with armaments on
them and just bombing and bombing and bombing and bombing
and taking out all of these defense systems and then
you don't even have to worry about having an air force,
you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Even the new Abrams tank, the X that
they're they're coming out, is going to be specifically designed
with drone air support is going to have its own
air force. So cool me.
Speaker 3: I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Was just a yeah, I just hate that the appearance
that the media is giving to Israel right now, that
it just cast them in a bad light. And I
hate no.
Speaker 1: Look, I agree israel Is, uh, they are doing an
awful job at the at the propaganda war right at
that element of this war, they're not doing a very
good job of it.
Speaker 5: There.
Speaker 1: I heard somebody say that they should be out doing
a daily press conference in English every single day, and
they're just but they're just not. And I think it
goes to what I mentioned before the break there, which
was that is the the Israelis don't care any like
the government, the the politicians, where they don't care what
the rest of the world thinks because they're not going
to be relying on the rest of the world for
their own survival because every time they've relied on some
other group of people to protect them, they've been slaughtered
and they're just done with it.
Speaker 2: So that even what the Bible says, I don't know
if you know that or not, but every time in
the scriptures and the Old Testament when Israel went to
outside powers, God stopped blessing them, you know that, Like
every time they went to Egypt to for support to
fight against I think it was the Philistines or something.
Speaker 1: Nero.
Speaker 2: That might not be right, but anyway, God said, uh,
and so he cursed them. So yeah, I see where
it comes from.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got you, Kevin. I appreciate the call.
Speaker 5: Man. All right, good a weekend, you too.
Speaker 1: Take care. The Israeli has approved a plan last month
to go into Gaza City to seize control of it.
They've begun filling up some of these tunnels in areas
they've captured. They're filling them with concrete, just pumping concrete
into all the tunnels to shut them down, which is,
if you just step back and think about it for
a moment, like the most impressive thing that the Arabs
in Gaza. I'm starting to move away from this whole
idea like they're Palestinians like they're Arabs and they live
in Gaza. Okay, the most incredible thing, impressive thing they
have ever built was four hundred and fifty miles of
tunnels in order to lure Jews into them to murder them.
That's there, that end, and they have now given us
a different idea of what urban warfare is going to
look like. And that's why they have to be defeated,
because if these tactics work, these tactics will be employed everywhere.
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and chat with Pete. Hello Pete, welcome to the show.
Hey Pete, Hey, great name, by the way.
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is a high cast. Doil Pete. But this
thing about drones we just had the Navy developed an
entire class of ships called the Watoral combat ships for
close to the shore operations. And yet when the Houties
were getting a little rambunctious several months ago, we sent
aircraft carriers and the Houti sent five hundred dollars drones
against multi billion dollar aircraft carriers. We the Watoral class
of ships is supposed to be close to the shore,
could go on the attack. To this, to that the
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military projects are being wiped out by five hundred thousand
and two thousand dollars drones.
Speaker 1: Sure, well, well, I think that there's a there is
a place for the aircraft carriers. Like if you if
you don't want to get your your all your material
up to the shoreline, for example, if you want to
if you want to stay you know, two hundred miles
out to see and be able to launch strikes on
targets and then soften that up and then you know,
going closer if you needed to, which we did not.
So I think there's a place for it. But there's
no doubt. Yeah, I mean, the technology is definitely changing
the face of warfare. No doubt about it, right, Yeah.
Speaker 5: And the next point, the next point about the drones, people,
what when Ukraine sent all those drones into Russia and
some of those drones were way far east, several hundred,
if not thousands of miles, Russia didn't see that coming.
We have, we have a whole bunch of farmland that's
been purchased by Chinese and you know what, they're close.
Speaker 1: To military installations.
Speaker 5: Yep, that's right. Yeah, nobody seems nobody seems to be
concerned about it.
Speaker 1: No, there, Well, I'm concerned about it. There are some
state lawmakers who have been trying to run bills that
there are some bills in Congress as well to ban
that kind of foreign ownership of farmland near military installations.
So yeah, i'd agree. My view on China is that
they are an adversary. They are they are an enemy,
and we would not be trading like we do right
now with China, with the Soviet Union. We would not
be allowing the Soviet Russians to buy up a whole
bunch of our farm land. We wouldn't let them buy
anything in our country. I don't know why, Well, I
do know why. It's the money people are hooked on
the money. And what I want to believe is that
the things that I am seeing is that. And I
don't know if it's true, but if it is true,
it would make a little bit of sense that some
of the moves that we are seeing from the administration,
whether it's moving boats and such down into South and
Central America, you know, taking out the Narco terrorist boat
the other day, like, some of these movements I think
are positioning for what I think some people believe is coming,
which is the ad which is open World War three.
It goes hot.
Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, I think that's fine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I don't want that. And that's why
I think it's important for Israel to succeed, because we
want somebody in that region of the world that is
able to put the region on lockdown so we don't
have to, you know, agreed.
Speaker 5: Well, you know the thing is, all of these things
that you and I worry about. You sit here sometimes
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this way and we're not, And and for for a
brief moment there, you think I'm losing my mind. How come?
How come nobody else thinks this? There's another fellow who
is on podcasts now, Uh, he has this line, I'm
not a conspiracy theorist, I'm a conspiracy analyst.
Speaker 1: Well who is? You know, what is it Alex Jones,
because he's.
Speaker 5: No, it's it's it's it's this guy Lionel. He used
to be on all that talk.
Speaker 1: I remember Lionel.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And you know, you know he has
such a way with words. I listen to him just
to find new words I've never heard of. However, he
is a thinker and he puts some things out there.
But I love that line, I'm not a conspiracy theorist,
I'm a conspiracy analyst.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think is it Lionel also like a rape
jing leftist lawyer.
Speaker 5: He's a lawyer. I don't know that he's raging left him?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he was years ago when I when
I heard him, he was on one of our sister stations,
which was a progressive pieces.
Speaker 5: He's probably he's you know, spend a few minutes with him,
he's come over.
Speaker 1: Oh, I mean that's possible.
Speaker 5: And his wife runs a huge, huge group for sexually
abused children and whatnot. It's a whole another thing, okay,
And I've seen a picture him and his wife sitting
with our standing with Trump at the Resolute Desk, so
I think he's found interesting.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Well, I mean, like I said, last
time I heard him was years ago, probably a decade ago. Pete,
I appreciate the call, sir. Yeah, have a great weekend, yes, sir,
all right, take care. This just in Reuter's reporting that
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chat with who's this David? Welcome to the program. Hello David, David,
Hey Pete.
Speaker 3: I really enjoy your show. You you're great, well.
Speaker 1: Thanks, I appreciate it. What's up?
Speaker 3: I got a question for you. Everybody's dancing around the edge,
but no one will say. What in the world is
wrong with the Palestinians. I mean Lebanon doesn't want them,
Syria doesn't want them, Jordan doesn't want them. I mean
Egypt won't have them. What is going on? By eleven,
I'm Jordan. Well there's Egypt.
Speaker 1: I can tell you there are two. There are two reasons. Basically,
one is that I'm not sure if you're aware of
this or not, but quote unquote, the Palestinians have gotten
themselves a bit of a reputation of being troublemakers no
matter where they end up, and so some of these
other countries do not want that kind of trouble to
be brewing in their borders, right. They don't want the
heat from that. So that's part of it. But the
other part of it is that they are seen as
the cause as an Islamic cause to be sacrificed in
order to beat the Jews, because like, if you can't
even beat the Jews, which again, in Islamic ideology, the
Jews are like sub humans, like you don't even they're dogs,
and they don't own property, they don't get to vote,
they don't have any of the rights that the Muslims have.
They are the non believers. And so that's the first step.
So if you can't even get them under control, the Jews,
and you're losing wars to them, then you're not going
to be able to usher in the second coming. So
you've got to be able to show your ability to
wipe them out. And so we have to use them
as this cause for the larger Islamic project.
Speaker 3: But that's hypocritical because no one's won a war with
them in the last six decades.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but this time it'll be different. Yeah, this time
it'll be different. I mean, that's but seriously, like that's
what they that's what they believe. That's what Iran was
working for, right, that's their ring of fire strategy where
they funded all of these proxies Islamic jihad. Uh you
know hesbala as well as Hamas, and you keep funding
all of these terrorist proxies and you you ring ring
Israel with all of these militias who then launch all
at once and attack on Israel. That and that was
the plan. Hamas just went early, they went. They they
jumped the gun on October seventh.
Speaker 3: And the definition of crazy is doing the same thing
over and over again and expecting different results.
Speaker 1: Well, but that's but again, as I said earlier, they've
got this is a win win for them, right because
this is the way that they get to test to
see if Allah is on their side and is happy
with them. And if they die doesn't matter because they
will then end up in heaven anyway.
Speaker 3: They'll be martyred and get to subjugate women, right.
Speaker 1: Well, they get the seventy two virgins, which is actually
the stuff about the seventy two versions is very odd.
They're always described as like these fair skinned women that
are like these sexual demigods or whatever that can just
have sex all the time, forever and ever and ever.
It is a very patriarchical ideology everything. I mean, if
you think about it at the time that it was
you know, conjured up, who were you trying to attract
You're trying to raise up these armies to murder all
the non believers, so you promise them sex with all
the women in you know, in the afterlife and everything else,
and sex with all the sex slaves, and you get to,
you know, murder a bunch of people in the meantime
and become rich working for the Califate. So like these
were all the things. So it's a very male centric ideology.
Speaker 3: It's the twenty first century. When are they going to
come and join us?
Speaker 1: No? They to, a lot of them. They don't want to.
That's it. They don't want to. I appreciate the call, David,
have a great weekend. I don't know what. Let's see.
We'll talk to Keith next. Hello, Keith, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 4: Good afterday.
Speaker 1: What's up? Uh?
Speaker 4: Didn't all the troubles in a Lebanon crank up in
the seventies when they allowed a bunch of Palestinian refugees
to move in there.
Speaker 1: I think that might be part of the problem. Yes,
as I said, they've got a bit of a bad
reputation in the neighborhood for this sort of stuff, but
at all But really, I mean the Iranian proxies has
Bala and all of that. I mean Iran when the
Shaw fell and Iron took over, Like that's really when
this stuff started amping up with the proxies.
Speaker 4: Oh, I remember something in college about that part of
the course about the difference between the Shia and the
Sunni and the Iran and Iraq are the only two
majority Shia Muslim countries in the world.
Speaker 1: And well Iran is Iraq was governed by the Shia,
but they were a minority, and that was that was
really that. I think that was the bizarre point. Or
maybe they were governed by the Sunni and they were
the minority. You may be right, they may have both
been shea but then they fought each other right for
years in the Iran Iraq War.
Speaker 4: So the Baptists our Baptist whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Bathist not Baptists, the Bathist.
Speaker 5: No, my dad was Baptist.
Speaker 4: My mother was raised in Libya though, Ah.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, so what what were what were her views
on on these issues?
Speaker 4: Well, she was born back when it was an Italian
colony and raised there until the fifties and got thrown
out her her whole family did. Basically her views on
the thing here's a good example. My father was in
the service in nineteen sixty seven. He was in Vietnam.
We were stationed in Minnesota. Walter Cronkitke comes on the
news and says peace has been declared. And I thought, oh, cool,
Pop's coming home. And she said, no, that's the Jews
in the Arabs and they're not done fighting. Nobody done
fighting when Jesus comes back.
Speaker 1: Well, there's probably more truth to that than she knew
at the time. I appreciate the call, Keith, Thank you sir.
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