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<v Speaker 1>Hello everybody, and welcome to another episode of JavaScript Jabber

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<v Speaker 1>not JavaScript. This isn't Star Wars JavaScript of the VV.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Steve Edwards. I am the host with

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<v Speaker 1>the most Today with me on the panel, we have

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Shapiro, Hey.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, coming from the lockdown Tel Aviv. Inside the lockdown

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<v Speaker 2>israel A j O'Neill, Yo yo.

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<v Speaker 3>Yo, coming at you live from the sunny woodlands of

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<v Speaker 3>Virginia with wood chips and places I didn't even know

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<v Speaker 3>I had.

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<v Speaker 1>And with us today our special guest is Mrod Stern.

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<v Speaker 1>How you doing, Marod, I'm fine.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>Good our praysure to have you. So to start out,

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<v Speaker 1>once you give us a little introduction, just brief a

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<v Speaker 1>bit about yourself, what you do while you're famous, and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll go from there.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I'm not famous. I'm a father of four and

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<v Speaker 4>it's a crazy there in all the time, but now

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<v Speaker 4>in the lockdown because of the coronavirus, it's even more crazier.

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<v Speaker 4>It's crazier. I'm at the Global Death Communities manager atwiks

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<v Speaker 4>dot Com. I love blogging, I love to take part

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<v Speaker 4>in the communities, and I really love everything related to branding.

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<v Speaker 4>Especially personal branding, which.

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<v Speaker 1>Is exactly what we're going to talk about today. So

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<v Speaker 1>why don't we dive right into the topic, and I

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<v Speaker 1>guess give us a description of what you mean by

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<v Speaker 1>the term personal branding.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So basically I think that personal branding the same

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<v Speaker 4>as branding. It's what comes up on your mind when

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<v Speaker 4>you actually think about someone or some company. What's the

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<v Speaker 4>first thing that you associate with it. Sometimes when I

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<v Speaker 4>speak with people about that subject, we came into a

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<v Speaker 4>conclusion that our mind is like working with Google search engine.

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<v Speaker 4>You put in a term, a name, or a company

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<v Speaker 4>or whatever you want, and there's like a few results

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<v Speaker 4>and when you give the name, for example, Dan shapiir Uh,

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<v Speaker 4>it's I hope it's okay to take you in a

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<v Speaker 4>So what pops into my mind is performance. Now, dance

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<v Speaker 4>is a lot more than just someone who takes part

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<v Speaker 4>in the performance world. Very high skill developers is much

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<v Speaker 4>more than that. But the things that Dan is doing

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<v Speaker 4>online offline, and we can take it because it's it's

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<v Speaker 4>super interesting to talk about it, but the things he

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<v Speaker 4>do actually brings him closer and closer to the term performance.

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<v Speaker 4>So the same goes with huge companies and the same

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<v Speaker 4>goes with personnel people.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, when you're talking about personal branding and the people

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<v Speaker 1>that we want to talk about who this is relevant to,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not talking about everybody Joe blow off the street,

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<v Speaker 1>are we? Or are you thinking more of people in

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<v Speaker 1>the technic specifically in the technological world or maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>sports world who are trying to sell things. What subset

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<v Speaker 1>of people do you think this personal branding is important for?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, so, actually I think it's important to everyone. Everyone

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<v Speaker 4>can benefit from putting attention into their personal brand and

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<v Speaker 4>doing stuff. And we'll talk about what stuff is, but

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<v Speaker 4>doing more to promote their name and to get it

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<v Speaker 4>closer to the terms, the professional terms that they want

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<v Speaker 4>to be associated with. In my daily work, I work

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<v Speaker 4>closely with developers, so I can or maybe I know

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<v Speaker 4>more about doing those stuff and actually having your aim

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<v Speaker 4>build up in the developers community, what's related to open

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<v Speaker 4>source contribution, meetups, events, podcasting. Just as you do, I

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<v Speaker 4>do get the opportunity when I'm asked to to speak

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<v Speaker 4>with small business owners and you see that personal branding

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<v Speaker 4>is also.

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<v Speaker 5>Very value to them. But in different world, in.

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<v Speaker 4>The world of customers and products and things like that.

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<v Speaker 4>When you talk about the world of technology, from JavaScript

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<v Speaker 4>to Skaala to funton and end and mobile and all

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<v Speaker 4>things technology. It's it's a bit different. I think that

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<v Speaker 4>it's different with platforms. For example, we see that Twitter

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<v Speaker 4>is super important for developer. Twitter is the place today.

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<v Speaker 4>When you, for example, compare it with Facebook, you see

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<v Speaker 4>that Twitter is the place where developers talk within themselves

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<v Speaker 4>and brings up all kinds of technology issues and engineering

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<v Speaker 4>insights on that platform. So there are all kinds of differences.

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<v Speaker 4>And actually this is the place that I love because

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<v Speaker 4>I love technology. A word about myself. I'm not a developer.

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<v Speaker 4>I learned to develop, but I wouldn't hire me as

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<v Speaker 4>a developer. But because I learned development myself, I do

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<v Speaker 4>know the terms, so I know to talk with developers

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<v Speaker 4>and actually bringing or crossing the gap between branding and

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<v Speaker 4>maybe say a bit of marketing themselves and their world

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<v Speaker 4>of engineering.

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<v Speaker 1>So when we're talking about brands and personal branding, what

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<v Speaker 1>examples come to your mind of good brands or examples

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<v Speaker 1>where branding has really worked well, whether maybe it's large

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<v Speaker 4>Well when we talked about brands, and here's another important

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<v Speaker 4>issue about effort, because I think that many listeners will say,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't care about my personal branding. I have skills

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<v Speaker 4>that I are very high demand in the industry, and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm all good and I don't need that. But if

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<v Speaker 4>you take into account the amount of effort, time consuming

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<v Speaker 4>and money spent of huge brands like Apple, Nike, or

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<v Speaker 4>Coca Cola, you'll see that they never stop. They never

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<v Speaker 4>stop promoting themselves and investing in their brand. And if

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<v Speaker 4>you can ask me, I'll say, I'll never forget the

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<v Speaker 4>Apple brand whatever, I never forget it. I use their products,

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<v Speaker 4>I like the brand. I never forget it. But it

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't matter. They keep on spending so much effort on branding.

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<v Speaker 4>So you must stop and ask yourself, if those huge

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<v Speaker 4>brands are not stopping investing in it, what us the

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<v Speaker 4>people are not getting. And I think that the same

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<v Speaker 4>as big brands, small brands or personal brands are super

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<v Speaker 4>important because at the end, I think we have some

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<v Speaker 4>kind of value in the industry. We can be super

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<v Speaker 4>good at what we're doing and bring value. But I

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<v Speaker 4>think that at the end, you need people to know

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<v Speaker 4>about it. You need more people to know about it.

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<v Speaker 4>And if I think about all kinds of examples, so

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<v Speaker 4>you can see people like Dana Vamov, for example, and

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<v Speaker 4>I like bringing this example to my peers and to.

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<v Speaker 5>Developers that I work.

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<v Speaker 4>With, because Dana Bramov, if I'm not mistaken, today, has

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<v Speaker 4>something like two hundred and forty thousand followers on Twitter,

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<v Speaker 4>and things that he says, for example, are making a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of noise and people respond and follow him for

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<v Speaker 4>a reason. But he never you know, he wasn't born

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<v Speaker 4>Dan Obamov and got that Twitter account and all his

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<v Speaker 4>assets that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh he was born he was I can interject he

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<v Speaker 2>was born Dan. Yes, yes, he was born at Dan

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<v Speaker 2>at Twitter. That's for sure true.

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<v Speaker 4>So so it's a journey and it takes time. He's

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<v Speaker 4>a good example of the things that he's doing and

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<v Speaker 4>how he's building building it. I do think that, you

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<v Speaker 4>know what, I do have an example that will also

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<v Speaker 4>illustrate an obstacle that they see.

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<v Speaker 2>Interject before you give that example. I really what you're

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<v Speaker 2>saying really resonates with me because as we know, as

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<v Speaker 2>we all know, this is being recorded in the beginning

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<v Speaker 2>of April, and this is a very problematic time all

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<v Speaker 2>around the world with the whole coronavirus thing. And I

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<v Speaker 2>keep seeing on Twitter people who I never expected to

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<v Speaker 2>see in this kind of a position tweeting out that

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<v Speaker 2>they've lost their job and are looking for employment. It's

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<v Speaker 2>certainly not an easy period for anybody, but having to

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<v Speaker 2>face unemployment on top of everything else is certainly a

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<v Speaker 2>big deal. And undoubtedly when you have a more significant brand,

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<v Speaker 2>personal brand, it becomes much easier for you to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to land your next position or get hired again.

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<v Speaker 2>And like you said, just the fact that you know

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<v Speaker 2>that you are good at what you do might have

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<v Speaker 2>been sufficient let's let's say even two or three months ago,

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<v Speaker 2>but all of a sudden today it may not be

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<v Speaker 2>sufficient because you know, if you if nobody outside your

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<v Speaker 2>company knows who you are, what you can do, what

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<v Speaker 2>you're capable of, then it's going to be much more

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<v Speaker 2>difficult for you to find your next your next job,

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<v Speaker 2>your next position. On the other hand, if you can

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<v Speaker 2>tweet out that you know you're looking for a job,

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<v Speaker 2>and a lot of people know you and will retreat

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<v Speaker 2>your tweet, and people are out there will say, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I heard about this guy. He's really good.

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<v Speaker 4>You should hire him.

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<v Speaker 2>And so there are positions out there, but they're just

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<v Speaker 2>more difficult to get to so I think we're definitely

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<v Speaker 2>now experiencing the importance of having this recognized, recognizable brand

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<v Speaker 2>and a good brand associated with yourself.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually, this is a great comment, and I do want

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<v Speaker 4>to elaborate with two things that I've come across in

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<v Speaker 4>my life. One was when I worked in a company,

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<v Speaker 4>not the company that I worked today, and there was

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<v Speaker 4>a period where there started firing people globally. One of

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<v Speaker 4>the things that people started doing was to address me,

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<v Speaker 4>come to me and ask me to sit with them

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<v Speaker 4>and work on their LinkedIn account, especially, but on their

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<v Speaker 4>you know, other digital assets, in writing and so on.

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<v Speaker 4>And I remember that I was so frustrated saying them, look,

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<v Speaker 4>I'll help you whatever you need. But I was so

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<v Speaker 4>frustrated because the time to start working on those things

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<v Speaker 4>is not in emergency emergency time, not once you need

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<v Speaker 4>to land a job you start working on those stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>That's it's it's never too late, right, But that's not

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<v Speaker 4>the time. It should come when you're where you're doing okay,

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<v Speaker 4>and it should come when you enjoy that, enjoy the journey,

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<v Speaker 4>enjoy sharing your stuff. And we will talk about it too.

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<v Speaker 4>But this is one thing that I wanted to share,

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<v Speaker 4>and another one that when you talked about being more

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<v Speaker 4>valuable as someone who is potentially can can join your company.

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<v Speaker 4>That's one another thought. Another side of personal branding which

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<v Speaker 4>I saw lately was that the things you do outside,

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<v Speaker 4>the things you share externally, the brand that you build

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<v Speaker 4>for yourself, can also raise your value within the company.

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<v Speaker 4>We have a developer that was he has his own

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<v Speaker 4>open source project and he was mentioned on Jess Weekly twice.

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<v Speaker 4>By the way, Dan Shapier was mentioned on Jess Weekly also,

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<v Speaker 4>But it's not done, Shapelle, and.

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to make me blush very significantly before this

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<v Speaker 2>is over. Let's let's take it. Let's use example to

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<v Speaker 2>other people.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it's I said, it's it's someone else. You also, well, you,

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<v Speaker 4>you were also mentioned on that newsletter. But but I'm

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<v Speaker 4>referring to someone else. And he told me that one

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<v Speaker 4>of his team members wasn't aware of the things that

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<v Speaker 4>he's doing on the community of open source and contributing.

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<v Speaker 4>And then he read his name, his size, name of

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<v Speaker 4>his team member on Jess Weekly and he was astonished.

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<v Speaker 4>He was amazed to see his name and he said, Wow,

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<v Speaker 4>I can't believe you're you're being manage here. So what

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<v Speaker 4>happened is inside his team it was now considered to

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<v Speaker 4>be a star because he was mentioned. So you see

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<v Speaker 4>that it's two side. It has the external side. Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>people know you outside your company. It might help you

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<v Speaker 4>in the future, it might not, but it's also bring

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<v Speaker 4>more weight to your presence within the company you already in,

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<v Speaker 4>which is cool, super cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we've done a pretty good job of establishing

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<v Speaker 1>what personal branding is and why you would want to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. So let's move on to the how. So

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<v Speaker 4>point in just having the time to sit down and

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<v Speaker 4>and you can assemble the things or the territory that

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<v Speaker 5>What do they do? Are the writing?

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<v Speaker 4>it's not rocket science. It's a lot of attention so

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<v Speaker 5>It's a journey.

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<v Speaker 4>it's always about doing, and it's also about really giving

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<v Speaker 4>else in a different industry. So the more you accurate

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<v Speaker 4>with the mapping, the more accurate value that you can

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<v Speaker 4>bring to the table. Now, bringing that value is based

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<v Speaker 4>looking at platforms, I'll take a step back and say,

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<v Speaker 4>let's talk about content at the end. Platform is a platform.

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<v Speaker 4>to the industry, the things that you know, learn and

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<v Speaker 4>can be an open source project, it can be a usert,

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<v Speaker 4>it's really everything, and it can be tweeted and it

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<v Speaker 4>can be shared on LinkedIn. But it's about the content.

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<v Speaker 4>It's about good content. And you know, this is a

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<v Speaker 4>very interesting point about content and doing for developers. One.

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<v Speaker 4>The web is sometimes sadly for really bad things, and

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<v Speaker 4>when developers, yes, yes, actually it is. But when developers

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<v Speaker 4>Point one point two that I keep hearing when I

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody knows what I know, and it's strong. Developers came

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<v Speaker 4>Valuable knowledge and you should express it and not stop

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<v Speaker 3>So I want to bring up an example. I think

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<v Speaker 3>So you go to learn how to do something and

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<v Speaker 3>Let's say that that were the case something like that,

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<v Speaker 3>there except for the thing that if you're reading the document,

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<v Speaker 3>And then when you finally figure it out, it's something

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<v Speaker 3>paste two lines, and so then you don't document it either,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. But the person who finally does, the person

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<v Speaker 3>So, yeah, there's three pieces of content I've had like that.

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<v Speaker 3>to more than one blog post to get information. If

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<v Speaker 2>If I can add to that. And it's a point

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of addresses the two points that Murad brought

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<v Speaker 6>Other people know it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think the way that you can hit both

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<v Speaker 2>of document their journey. And like you said, even they

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<v Speaker 3>Simplest way to do it, because there's the whole yak shaving, like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>do this. It's not good for branding necessarily, but you

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<v Speaker 3>you could host that on GitHub pages and you could

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<v Speaker 6>So effect you are building.

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<v Speaker 2>Your brand even if you know you're not stopped in

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<v Speaker 4>It's not about being famous. It's more about the journey.

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<v Speaker 4>Being famous, you might get that, but it's not. It

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but you want you want that impression. You want

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<v Speaker 6>You know. It's the impressions over time.

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<v Speaker 4>It's about really helping others and really bringing value to

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<v Speaker 4>the table. And one of the results is yes, they

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<v Speaker 4>will maybe remember you or stuff like that, because you

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<v Speaker 4>never know who reads your stuff. I'll give you an example.

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<v Speaker 4>When I was four years back younger, I found a

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<v Speaker 4>data security flaws in Israeli ro Rove cove is a

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<v Speaker 4>ticket that you go on train and buses with it,

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<v Speaker 4>and I found that if you do some things with it,

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<v Speaker 4>you can find the owner's I D six latest trips

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<v Speaker 4>that he or she done, where he or she lives,

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<v Speaker 4>and stuff like that. And I was in a set

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<v Speaker 4>of mind of if I managed to do that and

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<v Speaker 4>get that information using this and that everybody could do that.

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<v Speaker 4>But even so I was passionate enough to sit down

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<v Speaker 4>and write about experience with this lovecome this ticket and

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<v Speaker 4>from here and there. Two days after that, I was

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<v Speaker 4>approached by one of our leading news sites and they

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<v Speaker 4>asked to actually take that piece and publish it on

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<v Speaker 4>their site, the news site. And two days after that,

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<v Speaker 4>the government has actually assembled an emergency discussion about that ticket,

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<v Speaker 4>just because I documented what I did and what the

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<v Speaker 4>information I was able to take out and shouldn't. So

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<v Speaker 4>you never know who see what the things that you

447
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<v Speaker 4>publish up there. You never know. And sometimes you managed

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<v Speaker 4>to create an impact, and it's far better than being

449
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<v Speaker 4>famous or whatever, because you actually made something happened for

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<v Speaker 4>the best, for the good. So I think maybe that

451
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<v Speaker 4>should be some kind of a goal, making an impact,

452
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<v Speaker 4>because you actually change something that otherwise you thought unreachable.

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<v Speaker 4>That's another angle to all kinds of doing online stuff

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<v Speaker 4>and working on your personal brand. And another angle that

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<v Speaker 4>I think we should cover is that taking an active

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<v Speaker 4>part in your brand and building your brand and your

457
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<v Speaker 4>voice and being a prominent voice actually works on your

458
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<v Speaker 4>soft skills. Every developer. Good developers got really good art skills.

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<v Speaker 4>They know how to code, they know to build apps

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<v Speaker 4>and so on. But soft skills the way that you

461
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<v Speaker 4>can communicate your ideas, the way that you can express

462
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<v Speaker 4>the things you want to express, convincing, leading our stuff

463
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<v Speaker 4>that are super important, super import and by sitting down

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<v Speaker 4>and actually writing an article, for example, you actually work

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<v Speaker 4>and craft your writing skills. Maybe at the beginning it's

466
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<v Speaker 4>a bit hard, but the more you practice, the more

467
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<v Speaker 4>you publish, the more you read other stuff, you actually

468
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<v Speaker 4>work on your soft skills. And again, if we talk

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<v Speaker 4>about your personal value, what you bring to the table,

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<v Speaker 4>you actually bring more value to your organization. Another great

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<v Speaker 4>soft skills that you can think about is the way

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<v Speaker 4>to communicate with people and actually expand your networking, the

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<v Speaker 4>way that you can reach out and make partnerships and

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<v Speaker 4>do things together with different organizations and maybe government offices

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<v Speaker 4>and whatever. The word is huge. The more you practice,

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<v Speaker 4>the more your name is well, more familiar what you do,

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<v Speaker 4>and more people trust you. And this is another angle.

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<v Speaker 4>When someone is being consist and keep on bringing value

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<v Speaker 4>to the discussion, whatever the industry, the topics and so on,

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<v Speaker 4>he's being more trusted. And when you bring all this

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<v Speaker 4>into account, you can make more impact, you actually being

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<v Speaker 4>more valuable to the place you're part of.

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<v Speaker 1>Going back to what we were talking about famous, I

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<v Speaker 1>think the good example that comes to mind is you

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<v Speaker 1>want to be famous, as you were saying, maurd about

486
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<v Speaker 1>doing something and providing information, providing helpful things as compared

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<v Speaker 1>to being famous like the Kardashians. Let's for saying, it

488
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<v Speaker 1>comes to mind, you know, they're famous for what for

489
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<v Speaker 1>being famous? I mean, yeah, they're pretty, but they're just

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<v Speaker 1>famous for being famous as compared to your example Murada

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Abramarb or what comes to mind for me as

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<v Speaker 1>Eric hanschat a West boss of Scott Tlensky, people who

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<v Speaker 1>put out stuff that's informational and helped people do their jobs.

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<v Speaker 2>So but to touch on that it can be intimidating,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, especially when somebody is starting out is saying like,

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<v Speaker 2>what what is the likelihood of me becoming another west

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<v Speaker 2>Boss or or another Dana Brahmov or whatever. And first

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<v Speaker 2>of all, of like what said at the beginning, they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't start out that way. They got to that point

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<v Speaker 2>by working hard and putting out a lot of useful content.

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<v Speaker 2>But the other point is that you don't necessarily need

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<v Speaker 2>to get that far. What I like to think about

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<v Speaker 2>is the fact that, you know, in the past, when

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking about my parents' generation, they spent their entire

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<v Speaker 2>career often within a single organization at at you know,

506
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<v Speaker 2>they they started working there, they worked there all the

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<v Speaker 2>way to retirement, and that was that. And these days

508
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<v Speaker 2>people switch jobs every three years, two years, four years.

509
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<v Speaker 2>So and when you're switching job, you keep on selling

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<v Speaker 2>yourself again and again. And if you've got a good

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<v Speaker 2>brand going for you, better than the average, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>have to be a West Boss level brand, it just

513
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<v Speaker 2>needs to be better than the average, then effectively you've

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<v Speaker 2>done marketing for yourself. So you're not just coming in

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<v Speaker 2>as a salesperson trying to sell some product that nobody's

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<v Speaker 2>seen before, because they know you're meeting them and they've

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<v Speaker 2>never heard of you before. That meeting. Now you've done

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<v Speaker 2>some marketing in advance of the selling process, and in

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<v Speaker 2>the same way that this works for companies and for products,

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<v Speaker 2>it works for your benefit. And even having a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of marketing goes a long way than having no

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<v Speaker 2>marketing at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So I think let's go back down the route

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<v Speaker 1>we started to go a little while ago and we

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<v Speaker 1>got back off. Do we well? First of all, let

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<v Speaker 1>me put it this way, Murad, is there anything we

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<v Speaker 1>want to cover as part of the why and what

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<v Speaker 1>you want to show share and the benefits of it?

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<v Speaker 1>And we covered everything there.

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<v Speaker 4>I think we did.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so let's talk. Let's get back to how so

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<v Speaker 1>you've mentioned before, you know the popular ones. I think

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<v Speaker 1>the obvious ones are blogs, Twitter, maybe YouTube videos. You

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about those in any more detail, particular

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<v Speaker 1>method for utilizing those platforms.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay? Sure. So at the beginning, let's split let's split

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<v Speaker 4>it into two, the online and the offline. Basically, it's

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<v Speaker 4>easier to start with the online, but we shouldn't ignore

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<v Speaker 4>the offline. And I'll talk about it in a second

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<v Speaker 4>regarding online, and you can start with the mindset whatever

541
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<v Speaker 4>I learned. If it's valuable enough, let's share it. One

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<v Speaker 4>of the great stuff about being part of the high

543
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<v Speaker 4>tech industry is that we must learn as a daily habits.

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<v Speaker 4>We every day we must learn selfie, we read technical blogs,

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<v Speaker 4>we go and actually get updates about all kinds of

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<v Speaker 4>development issues and bugs and updates that are going on.

547
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<v Speaker 4>We need to keep ourselves really up to date learning

548
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<v Speaker 4>all day learning. And if you just put yourself in

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<v Speaker 4>a mindset of learning and actually feeling that you learn,

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<v Speaker 4>being presents as you learn, and understanding that what you

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<v Speaker 4>do now when you sit down and read your Twitter feed,

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<v Speaker 4>when you read this article, is that you are learning.

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<v Speaker 4>You can easily and very fast create mini content. What

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<v Speaker 4>my two cents about that I just read this. Here's

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<v Speaker 4>my two cents. That can be a tweet, that can

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<v Speaker 4>be a very short blog post, but I'm taking it

557
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<v Speaker 4>things that is happening anyway, like reading something professional and

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<v Speaker 4>actually me chewing it and giving it back with my

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<v Speaker 4>point of view. So this is one thing that we

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<v Speaker 4>should start with. I really recommend any.

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<v Speaker 5>Developer to check and you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Like cleaning and removing dust from his or her LinkedIn

563
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<v Speaker 4>account and Twitter account, because at the end, when someone

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<v Speaker 4>is searching your name, he or she will find your

565
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<v Speaker 4>digital assets. So whatever is out there, make sure that

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<v Speaker 4>it's look good. It shouldn't you know, it might be

567
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<v Speaker 4>not super active or maybe not active, but it looks

568
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<v Speaker 4>okay and reflect what you do. So this is another

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<v Speaker 4>thing that you should take into account. And then you

570
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<v Speaker 4>can take a step deeper. You can say, okay, after

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<v Speaker 4>mapping and we talked about mapping, and here's my territory,

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<v Speaker 4>this is the things that I want to talk about.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's the thought leaders that I should follow and see

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<v Speaker 4>what they these guys are doing.

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<v Speaker 5>Now we really want to take.

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<v Speaker 4>A step deeper and start creating content that reflect my

577
00:37:10.840 --> 00:37:15.559
<v Speaker 4>understanding in that in that industry. So then you can consider.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe open up a blog or.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe just start, you know, tweeting more often, but make

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<v Speaker 4>sure that your tweets are being more and more about

581
00:37:28.280 --> 00:37:32.639
<v Speaker 4>those topics you might want to consider. I don't know,

582
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<v Speaker 4>podcasting and somethings. Podcasting and writing a blog post are

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<v Speaker 4>making people frighten because it looks so time consuming and

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<v Speaker 4>things that only the greatest know how to do. But

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<v Speaker 4>that's not true. You need to just sit down and

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<v Speaker 4>do that and feel really comfortable with both the top

587
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<v Speaker 4>that you want to talk about and the platform that

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<v Speaker 4>you want to use, if it's writing or talking about it,

589
00:38:07.079 --> 00:38:11.599
<v Speaker 4>or making videos or just you know, contributing code and

590
00:38:11.679 --> 00:38:14.920
<v Speaker 4>to get up and stuff like that. This is the

591
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<v Speaker 4>online This is everything that you can do right now.

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<v Speaker 4>But in order to do you know, like three hundred

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<v Speaker 4>and sixty degrees of building your brand and making a

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<v Speaker 4>prominent voice in the industry, you should also consider doing

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<v Speaker 4>things offline, for example, meetups working on forty five one

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<v Speaker 4>hour talk that you can deliver in front of an

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<v Speaker 4>audience when it's allowed. Now we're in a period of

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<v Speaker 4>time that you know, because of the coronavirus, we can't

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<v Speaker 4>do that, but we can do online meetups. Again, it's

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<v Speaker 4>a talk. It's a talk by you about the subject

601
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<v Speaker 4>that you passionate about and you want to share your

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<v Speaker 4>insight with others. And that's that's great because you actually

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<v Speaker 4>create content. The content is your insights, is your talk.

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<v Speaker 4>It's also your PowerPoint or whatever app that use. But

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<v Speaker 4>then you can share it online on slideshair and stuff

606
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<v Speaker 4>like that. So you have a talk, and I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know many meetups that I know are also doing video

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<v Speaker 4>of the talks. So when you go up on stage,

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<v Speaker 4>and many people don't like to do that. Again, it's

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<v Speaker 4>more about the soft skills and the courage to go

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<v Speaker 4>up and say here's what I know and I can

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<v Speaker 4>share that with you, And many people are finding to

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<v Speaker 4>do that and talk you know, public speaking. But taking

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<v Speaker 4>that step and going up on stage and making you

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<v Speaker 4>know or working on the skills of public speaking actually empowers.

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<v Speaker 5>You a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>So offline and online are basically working together. And you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I can see many meetups where someone is going up

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<v Speaker 4>on stage and then people in the audience are tweeting

620
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<v Speaker 4>about him or her and about the things they talk about,

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<v Speaker 4>and there you can see how the offline and actual

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<v Speaker 4>event is being discussed online. And if the Twitter account

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<v Speaker 4>of the presenter is strong enough and people aware of it,

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<v Speaker 4>so they tag him or her, so the discussion can

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<v Speaker 4>go and get stronger online and actually close that circle

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<v Speaker 4>and making it more empowered. So if we talk about

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<v Speaker 4>starting I would start with scheduling time because we're super

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<v Speaker 4>busy and time is something that we've missed. So scheduling

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<v Speaker 4>forty five minutes one hour, maybe a week at the

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<v Speaker 4>beginning at least. Then start mapping what I want to

631
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<v Speaker 4>talk about, who are the thought leaders in my industry.

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<v Speaker 4>I would even add what are the spatial dates in

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<v Speaker 4>my industry? All kinds of software that were released in

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<v Speaker 4>that date, so I can talk about it when it's relevant.

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<v Speaker 4>And events, of course, if there are global events that

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<v Speaker 4>are related to my industry, you want to be part

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<v Speaker 4>of it. But begin with.

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<v Speaker 5>Mapping because then you know where you're going.

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<v Speaker 4>And what are the stakeholders that you should engage with.

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<v Speaker 4>And then it's actually sitting and understanding how you want

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<v Speaker 4>to express your ideas, how do you want to engage

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<v Speaker 4>with your audience, and how do you want and where

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<v Speaker 4>you want to build your audience, and understand that whatever

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<v Speaker 4>you choose, you are not going to break the internet

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<v Speaker 4>at the beginning, because it's a journey. And at the

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<v Speaker 4>beginning you might feel that you talk to a wall

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<v Speaker 4>and no one answer you and no one cares about

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<v Speaker 4>what you do. But that's not true because everything you

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<v Speaker 4>do has some kind of impact and you never know

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<v Speaker 4>who looks and read the stuff you do, and step

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<v Speaker 4>by step you build your audience, you build up the

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<v Speaker 4>people seem in oar mind like you that at the

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<v Speaker 4>end you can give value and you can get value

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<v Speaker 4>from your activities, and you know what, you can even

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<v Speaker 4>enjoy it because one of the things that when I

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<v Speaker 4>talk with developers that comes up is that you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you can sit down on your desk and code all

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<v Speaker 4>day long and do a great job, that's for sure,

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<v Speaker 4>But having or taking an active part in the community

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<v Speaker 4>sometimes bring up all kinds of invitation of taking part

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<v Speaker 4>in I don't know, some conference abroad where they want

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<v Speaker 4>you to talk, so you fly there and you add

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<v Speaker 4>actually go up on stage and you present your company.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a huge win for your company, not just for you,

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<v Speaker 4>and it actually brings spice to your career, to your

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<v Speaker 4>daily coding routine. So it's actually another cool stuff as

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<v Speaker 4>not just you know, as I pointed the famous which

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<v Speaker 4>I'm against, it's also another great aspect of these activities.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing about content that I want to bring up

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<v Speaker 1>that I don't think has been mentioned, and I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>it come up recently as being fairly prevalent is owning

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<v Speaker 1>your content. The particular use case that comes to mind

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<v Speaker 1>is blogging on something like Medium. So I know, when

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<v Speaker 1>Medium first came out, it's really popular and everybody's saying

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<v Speaker 1>blog on Medium, blog on Medium. Your content's that much

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<v Speaker 1>more visible, and so on and so forth. So then

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<v Speaker 1>medium starts adding requirements. You know, they want you to

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<v Speaker 1>sign up for a membership to be able to read this,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's various limitations. So all of a sudden, I

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<v Speaker 1>started seeing a lot more people saying, maybe we shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be blogging on media. Maybe you should own your own content,

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<v Speaker 1>put it on your own blog that you have hosted,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's you know, something a static site generator and

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<v Speaker 1>get hub pages, or you know, whatever the case may be.

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<v Speaker 3>And mediums started I don't know if they're still doing this,

686
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<v Speaker 3>but they were at least testing this where super popular

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<v Speaker 3>people on Medium that posted content they got lots of views.

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<v Speaker 3>They made paid content, so they'd show you the first

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<v Speaker 3>paragraph and be like, okay, you've watch you've you've watched

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<v Speaker 3>five of five popular exactly yes views this month.

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<v Speaker 6>Now you need to subscribe to view more.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, It's like it's a company that is taking the

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<v Speaker 3>content you produce for free and monetizing it exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that's pretty important too. I know one

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<v Speaker 1>platform that I've seen used and I've heard about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've started using myself as dev dot two dev

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<v Speaker 1>dot t O and one of the cool things I

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<v Speaker 1>just started blogging that I put a blog post on

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<v Speaker 1>there I think last week or something like that, is

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<v Speaker 1>they allow you to say, okay, this is a canonical

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<v Speaker 1>link for my blog post, and you could point it

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<v Speaker 1>to your own platform. So I'm just curious to see

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<v Speaker 1>more what your experiences or thoughts on content ownership.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I'm not going to dip into this platform or

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<v Speaker 4>another platform, because I think that platforms go up and down,

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<v Speaker 4>and there's trends in that and this. I think that

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<v Speaker 4>whatever you do, and again, without you know, talking legally,

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<v Speaker 4>the things that you publish are mostly or your content.

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<v Speaker 4>This is something that you write. And again I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>super familiar with the things you said about medium. If

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<v Speaker 4>it's theirs or yours, and I wouldn't you know what,

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<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't even think about it at the beginning of

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<v Speaker 4>my journey. I would just start doing and start writing

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<v Speaker 4>and start publishing. I think it's I hope it's answered

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<v Speaker 4>the question.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to agree with Morad on this. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that obviously, if you find yourself to be a regular

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<v Speaker 2>blogger and you blog day in, day out, and you're

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<v Speaker 2>starting to get the following, then it's then it might

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<v Speaker 2>be definitely worthwhile to like think about where you want

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<v Speaker 2>your content to reside and stuff like that, But at

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<v Speaker 2>the very beginning, I think it's more important than anything

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<v Speaker 2>else is just to get your content out there. And

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<v Speaker 2>if that literally means just finding the easiest platform to

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<v Speaker 2>use for you, then just go for it. Anything is

726
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<v Speaker 2>better than just procrastinating.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and you know what, there's even one thing that

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<v Speaker 4>no one can take from you, and that's the skills

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<v Speaker 4>that you developed during the process. I can tell you

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<v Speaker 4>on my free time when I have some I like

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<v Speaker 4>managing my Telegram John. I have a channel on Telegram.

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<v Speaker 4>It almost had two thousand subscribers, and I usually update

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<v Speaker 4>there on all kinds of technology news and stuff like that. Actually,

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<v Speaker 4>it's a very interesting story of how I build it.

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<v Speaker 4>It was built because a visit of GitHub in Israel,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's a different story anyway. In order to promote

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<v Speaker 4>my channel, I wanted to create video that actually sums

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<v Speaker 4>up the latest updates that I've published, and for me,

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<v Speaker 4>video editing was magic. I looked at YouTube and I

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<v Speaker 4>saw videos and it was like black box. I couldn't

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<v Speaker 4>understand how people provide this amazing stuff. The sounds effect

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<v Speaker 4>and the transitions and the lightning and everything. I was

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<v Speaker 4>amazed and it was a magic to me and something

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<v Speaker 4>that I really wanted to crack down. So I sat

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<v Speaker 4>down and learned video editing. Super not related to what

746
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<v Speaker 4>I do on my daily job, but I sat down

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<v Speaker 4>and learn it another It's not soft skills, it's just knowledge.

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<v Speaker 4>But it made me think in another way of how

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<v Speaker 4>presenting my ideas, summarize things that I did, and so on,

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<v Speaker 4>and marketing my telegram channel. It was, you know, a

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<v Speaker 4>step that I took, pure learning. And when I look

752
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<v Speaker 4>at it today, when I know video editing and the

753
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<v Speaker 4>magic is no magic at all, I see through. And

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<v Speaker 4>when I do my job, my daily job, and I

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<v Speaker 4>have my video person who is responsible to all kinds

756
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<v Speaker 4>of content video that we have and so on, I

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<v Speaker 4>know how to talk with him. I know what to

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<v Speaker 4>demand from him, I know what he's doing, and then

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<v Speaker 4>I can really you know, communicate and get a better

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<v Speaker 4>product and content for my daily job and what I do.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's so great to take an active step, an

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<v Speaker 4>active point of view and understanding of cracking and learning

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<v Speaker 4>whatever you can and writing down, you know, just sit

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<v Speaker 4>down and look at well known blog posts and ask yourself, Wow,

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<v Speaker 4>how he or she did that? So many shares, so

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<v Speaker 4>many comments.

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<v Speaker 5>I can never do that.

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<v Speaker 4>That's crazy, but it's not. It's just sitting down and

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<v Speaker 4>learning and breaking the magic until you own it. And

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<v Speaker 4>from soft skill to heart skills, we always on the

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<v Speaker 4>learning path. The moment we know, the more we I

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<v Speaker 4>think can bring to the table and have more value

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<v Speaker 4>and so on. My point is that I wouldn't consider

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<v Speaker 4>this is a content that is mine or not just

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<v Speaker 4>sit down and start, because the starting point is the

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<v Speaker 4>the point where great stuff can happen regarding the things

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<v Speaker 4>that you know how to do and deal with.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're getting close to the end of our time here.

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<v Speaker 1>So before we moved the pics, is there anything else

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<v Speaker 1>we're missing you want to cover real quick, Moron or

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<v Speaker 1>anybody else?

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<v Speaker 4>You know what, I'll just mention that one of the

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<v Speaker 4>great stuff that I heard, and it really sit down

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<v Speaker 4>good with what we've talked about, was when President Barack Obama,

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<v Speaker 4>former President of the United States, Barack Obama, he said

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<v Speaker 4>in one of his video and promoting I think it

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<v Speaker 4>was Hour of the Code or Hour of Code. It

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<v Speaker 4>was initiative of teaching kids to code and in that video,

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<v Speaker 4>he was addressing kids and teenagers and he asked them

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<v Speaker 4>to be in the sake set of mind of being

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<v Speaker 4>active and not passive. He said, don't play something like,

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<v Speaker 4>don't play with the app, create the app. And I

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<v Speaker 4>think that it's so deep and when we talk and

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<v Speaker 4>if I try to sum up everything we talked about

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<v Speaker 4>personal branding and being active and being a prominent voice

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<v Speaker 4>in your industry, it's about state of mind of actually

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<v Speaker 4>being active and creating and not just consuming content. That's

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<v Speaker 4>a point that I really like.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, cool, Yeah, we've got the link here, so we'll

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<v Speaker 1>make sure and drop that into the show notes so

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<v Speaker 1>everybody can see that video.
