WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.920 --> 00:00:04.280 It's nice time with Dan Ray. I'm going you beasy 2 00:00:04.679 --> 00:00:06.280 Boston News Radio, all. 3 00:00:06.280 --> 00:00:10.759 Right now, thanks a lot appreciated. Dad is often doing 4 00:00:10.800 --> 00:00:14.000 a little football action special. Thanks to our entertainment guru 5 00:00:14.039 --> 00:00:17.199 Cooper Lawrence for joining us. Also early in the program, 6 00:00:17.760 --> 00:00:22.600 Joe Lopino Esposito attorney talking about the TikTok man and 7 00:00:22.800 --> 00:00:27.199 our next guest, my good friend from the coast, Tanya Ray, 8 00:00:27.320 --> 00:00:31.559 Fox Ladies and gentleman of Fox Sports. I do want 9 00:00:31.559 --> 00:00:33.799 to get her thoughts on TikTok because she is that's 10 00:00:33.840 --> 00:00:34.679 a big deal for her. 11 00:00:34.799 --> 00:00:36.640 It's weird gonna be But if for. 12 00:00:36.600 --> 00:00:39.799 The next forty eight hours follow Tanya Fox on TikTok, 13 00:00:39.880 --> 00:00:40.640 That's what I'm telling you. 14 00:00:40.679 --> 00:00:42.799 Do it now? Fox? How you holding up? 15 00:00:44.000 --> 00:00:44.159 Oh? 16 00:00:44.200 --> 00:00:47.000 You know, I'm hanging in there. I'm doing just about 17 00:00:47.000 --> 00:00:50.039 as well as like a one hundred million other Americans 18 00:00:50.039 --> 00:00:50.560 at this point. 19 00:00:50.600 --> 00:00:53.439 But you know, so, what's you have to say? I 20 00:00:53.479 --> 00:00:53.960 love you, man. 21 00:00:54.000 --> 00:00:58.240 You still have the same attitude you always have. What's 22 00:00:58.280 --> 00:01:02.159 it like out there? I mean you guys, you Santa Monica. 23 00:01:02.560 --> 00:01:05.200 I used to being I'm over like a little bit 24 00:01:05.239 --> 00:01:07.959 further south, actually closer to lax which works out really 25 00:01:08.000 --> 00:01:10.000 well for me, but we're in the safe zone from 26 00:01:10.079 --> 00:01:12.439 any of the fires and things like that. Just really 27 00:01:12.680 --> 00:01:15.760 bad air quality. But otherwise, you know, it's taking a 28 00:01:15.760 --> 00:01:18.560 few years off of my life. But you know, I live, 29 00:01:18.640 --> 00:01:20.480 I mean live near the Pacific Ocean, so I guess 30 00:01:20.519 --> 00:01:21.000 it's worth it. 31 00:01:21.079 --> 00:01:22.840 Well, that's so if you had stayed back here in Boston, 32 00:01:22.840 --> 00:01:25.439 you would have lost those years anyways, you know exactly, 33 00:01:25.480 --> 00:01:26.799 So you just have to look at it like that. 34 00:01:27.760 --> 00:01:30.319 Sorry, let's get to talk at some sports here, because 35 00:01:30.359 --> 00:01:33.439 you need to follow Tanya on social media. She's on 36 00:01:33.920 --> 00:01:37.280 all her social media handles, handles, excuse me, at Tanya 37 00:01:37.760 --> 00:01:39.760 ray Fox. You can follow her on x you can 38 00:01:39.799 --> 00:01:42.280 go TikTok for the next forty eight hours anyways, and 39 00:01:42.400 --> 00:01:45.799 Instagram or whatever is coming next. I love your stuff 40 00:01:45.840 --> 00:01:48.560 on social media. I love your quick one minute hits, 41 00:01:48.920 --> 00:01:49.840 your opinions. 42 00:01:50.959 --> 00:01:51.760 I think they're great. 43 00:01:51.840 --> 00:01:54.840 I think people they're insightful, they're fun, so people should 44 00:01:54.840 --> 00:01:58.200 definitely follow them. Let's start with Rabel. Now, when Vrabel 45 00:01:58.319 --> 00:02:00.359 was a player here, you were working with us, had 46 00:02:00.439 --> 00:02:01.079 a Comcast. 47 00:02:01.120 --> 00:02:05.200 Correct, that was before my time. I was still I 48 00:02:05.239 --> 00:02:08.240 was still very very young and in high school and college. 49 00:02:08.240 --> 00:02:10.240 When Brabel was there, But you suck? 50 00:02:10.400 --> 00:02:12.439 Are you kidding me? I did that? 51 00:02:14.120 --> 00:02:14.560 Yeah? 52 00:02:14.639 --> 00:02:20.080 Oh god, so you don't remember when do you've ever 53 00:02:20.120 --> 00:02:20.599 when Brabel? 54 00:02:22.680 --> 00:02:24.199 Oh no, I did not know the story. 55 00:02:24.520 --> 00:02:26.439 Oh no, we we well. 56 00:02:26.439 --> 00:02:28.240 Greg and I used to get down to Foxborough and 57 00:02:28.319 --> 00:02:31.400 we would do the friendly scoop and the first one 58 00:02:31.479 --> 00:02:39.039 was Richard Seymour and then after Seymour left, uh. 59 00:02:38.280 --> 00:02:40.400 It was Vrabel. Brabel did it. 60 00:02:41.240 --> 00:02:43.680 So we would pay these guys so much a week 61 00:02:43.719 --> 00:02:45.360 to come on and pretend to be our friend to 62 00:02:45.400 --> 00:02:49.400 talk to us. And we did this bit where we 63 00:02:49.479 --> 00:02:52.159 lined up in a line of scrimmage and Rabel just 64 00:02:52.240 --> 00:02:55.599 sent me back twenty yards, I mean, and he didn't 65 00:02:55.599 --> 00:02:58.680 even break He barely used any of his strength. 66 00:02:58.719 --> 00:03:02.000 And I swear to god, I thought I broke a ribcage. 67 00:03:02.080 --> 00:03:05.479 I mean I was. It's on video somewhere of he 68 00:03:05.680 --> 00:03:06.199 just blocked. 69 00:03:06.199 --> 00:03:06.280 It. 70 00:03:06.280 --> 00:03:09.120 Actually might be your It might be your most impressive, 71 00:03:09.159 --> 00:03:12.240 impressive athletic feat that you didn't break any bones in 72 00:03:12.280 --> 00:03:15.120 that scenario. I were you, I would use that. 73 00:03:15.319 --> 00:03:17.280 I was going to say it was my greatest journalist 74 00:03:17.639 --> 00:03:21.599 journalistic feet that too. But there was no doubt that 75 00:03:21.719 --> 00:03:23.000 Rabel was going to become a coach. 76 00:03:23.080 --> 00:03:25.599 We know that. What did you think of the whole deal? 77 00:03:27.360 --> 00:03:30.439 I think that Rabel is a good hire. I think 78 00:03:30.439 --> 00:03:32.719 he's a good head coach, a good hire. He makes 79 00:03:32.879 --> 00:03:35.439 sense for the organization. A lot of what I've talked 80 00:03:35.439 --> 00:03:38.599 about about the situation is just that I find the 81 00:03:38.639 --> 00:03:42.240 whole approach of the organization from ownership to be very confusing. 82 00:03:42.680 --> 00:03:46.560 I don't quite know what the Crafts are trying to 83 00:03:46.599 --> 00:03:49.639 send as far as the message for what they're trying 84 00:03:49.680 --> 00:03:53.960 to no pun intended craft the organization into going forward, 85 00:03:54.039 --> 00:03:57.719 because there's been this very anti Belichick sentiment coming out 86 00:03:57.759 --> 00:04:01.199 of the organization for the last year plus and this 87 00:04:01.319 --> 00:04:03.280 idea that they are going to move in a very 88 00:04:03.280 --> 00:04:06.680 different direction. They wanted to leave behind the Belichick way 89 00:04:06.960 --> 00:04:10.000 and move into something that was a little bit more progressive, 90 00:04:10.000 --> 00:04:12.520 a little bit more forward thinking, and they didn't want 91 00:04:12.560 --> 00:04:15.840 somebody at the helm who had a ton of power 92 00:04:15.960 --> 00:04:19.399 over personnel and had just I mean, Belichick was the 93 00:04:19.399 --> 00:04:22.560 most powerful head coach in the NFL for obvious reasons. 94 00:04:22.920 --> 00:04:28.040 So okay, they hire Girodmeo. That makes sense, you know, 95 00:04:28.480 --> 00:04:32.040 in the ways that the Craft sort of described it, 96 00:04:32.040 --> 00:04:33.759 which was like it's going to be this sort of 97 00:04:33.800 --> 00:04:37.920 soft launch out of the Belichick era. Fine, we all 98 00:04:37.920 --> 00:04:40.120 know what happened there. We don't have to kind of 99 00:04:40.120 --> 00:04:43.240 get into the politics of that. But to me, Rabel 100 00:04:43.360 --> 00:04:46.000 is actually a step back toward Belichick in a lot 101 00:04:46.000 --> 00:04:48.040 of ways, and the fact that they've given him so 102 00:04:48.279 --> 00:04:52.800 much say over personnel, I personally think is probably for 103 00:04:52.839 --> 00:04:55.600 the best, to be quite honest, I think it's unless 104 00:04:55.600 --> 00:04:59.439 you have a really really elite GM like you know, 105 00:04:59.600 --> 00:05:02.439 Bret each or Howie Roseman or someone like that, having 106 00:05:02.600 --> 00:05:07.600 the coach involved in the personnel decisions, especially if they 107 00:05:07.680 --> 00:05:10.680 have the kind of ties to the organization, understand ownership 108 00:05:10.759 --> 00:05:14.000 and everything else the way that Rabel does. I don't 109 00:05:14.040 --> 00:05:18.120 hate it. I just I'm very frustrated with what the 110 00:05:18.160 --> 00:05:21.399 Crafts have asked of Patriots fans in terms of this 111 00:05:21.480 --> 00:05:24.519 departure from Belichick. You don't you know, there are very 112 00:05:24.519 --> 00:05:28.000 few coaches that have reached that level, and I think 113 00:05:28.040 --> 00:05:30.519 that everybody's feeling a little bit disillusioned at this point 114 00:05:30.600 --> 00:05:33.720 because we should be excited to have this new head 115 00:05:33.759 --> 00:05:38.360 coach who's familiar and part of the dynasty and Patriots 116 00:05:38.399 --> 00:05:40.600 Hall of Famer. But I sense from a lot of 117 00:05:40.600 --> 00:05:43.160 Patriots fans who at least engage with my content, which 118 00:05:43.160 --> 00:05:46.079 again could be an echo chamber that there's just like, Okay, 119 00:05:46.199 --> 00:05:49.399 this is great, but this seems like you're actually just 120 00:05:49.439 --> 00:05:52.560 looking for Belichick two point out. Quite honestly, do. 121 00:05:52.519 --> 00:05:53.959 You have a do you think. 122 00:05:55.839 --> 00:05:59.959 In retrospect, post Belichick or I'm going to say post 123 00:06:00.160 --> 00:06:03.240 Brady Quite frankly, what should the crafts have done? 124 00:06:05.800 --> 00:06:07.759 Well, I'm on record as saying they should have let 125 00:06:07.800 --> 00:06:13.079 Belichick coach until he died or could no longer function. 126 00:06:14.079 --> 00:06:17.160 I think there's about there's a handful of coaches in 127 00:06:17.160 --> 00:06:20.000 the history of sports that just kind of earn that. 128 00:06:21.040 --> 00:06:24.680 And while I do think, yes, of course everybody has 129 00:06:25.319 --> 00:06:29.720 has fireable offenses, there were so many things that were 130 00:06:30.120 --> 00:06:34.120 starting from the quarterback position down that were hamstringing their 131 00:06:34.399 --> 00:06:37.600 ability to actually win games. I mean he did with 132 00:06:37.720 --> 00:06:42.000 McDaniel's take Mac Jones to the playoffs, which in retrospect 133 00:06:42.680 --> 00:06:48.040 was a real incredible feat, right and there, Yes, I 134 00:06:48.079 --> 00:06:49.759 think that there was a lot of things Belichick was 135 00:06:49.800 --> 00:06:52.759 stuck in. He's showing in US at UNC right now 136 00:06:52.759 --> 00:06:54.800 that he just will not work with anybody that he 137 00:06:54.839 --> 00:06:57.319 hasn't had a relationship with. For thirty years plus or 138 00:06:57.319 --> 00:07:00.120 he's not related to It's a lot, and that's a 139 00:07:00.160 --> 00:07:04.000 lot to deal with. However, unless you have the perfect 140 00:07:04.279 --> 00:07:09.800 succession plan, moving on from somebody like this is is 141 00:07:10.079 --> 00:07:14.240 just such a difficult task. And I don't think that there. 142 00:07:14.319 --> 00:07:16.040 You can you can see in the way that people 143 00:07:16.079 --> 00:07:20.040 still interact with Belichick in the national media and throughout 144 00:07:20.279 --> 00:07:23.800 even on social media, just he still carries so much weight. 145 00:07:23.879 --> 00:07:26.319 His opinion and his what he's up to carries so 146 00:07:26.439 --> 00:07:30.160 much weight, and just for business reasons alone, Belichick was 147 00:07:30.160 --> 00:07:35.079 an important person to the Patriots organization, Like you can't 148 00:07:36.000 --> 00:07:39.439 trying to move on from that as if there's you know, 149 00:07:39.480 --> 00:07:43.399 there's a replacement for that kind of social cachet. I 150 00:07:43.439 --> 00:07:49.199 think I think Crafts misunderstood how much he himself could 151 00:07:49.240 --> 00:07:52.680 carry the Patriots franchise and the Patriots name and the 152 00:07:52.680 --> 00:07:57.199 Patriots brand on his own post Brady Belichick and abandoning 153 00:07:57.600 --> 00:08:00.879 that both. I mean, Brady was eventually retire regardless of 154 00:08:00.879 --> 00:08:03.399 whether he left or not. But saying we can just 155 00:08:03.439 --> 00:08:05.759 move on from this entirely when you know Belichick's going 156 00:08:05.800 --> 00:08:07.199 to keep coaching, you know he's still going to be 157 00:08:07.199 --> 00:08:08.720 in the public eye to may It was just a 158 00:08:08.759 --> 00:08:10.879 bad business decision more than anything else. 159 00:08:11.639 --> 00:08:15.120 But what about the picking the players, because we all 160 00:08:15.160 --> 00:08:17.800 know Belichick and coach. I mean, Belichick could be ninety 161 00:08:17.839 --> 00:08:22.240 in coach, but the roster seemed to be going downhill. 162 00:08:24.319 --> 00:08:28.639 Yeah, I think that the roster issues were a little 163 00:08:28.680 --> 00:08:33.840 bit overblown. Yes, there were issues. There's always been issues 164 00:08:33.840 --> 00:08:37.320 at wide receiver and his inability to fully adjust to 165 00:08:37.360 --> 00:08:40.399 life post Brady with his biggest downfall, Right, was this 166 00:08:40.519 --> 00:08:42.879 idea that you could get away with being stingy at 167 00:08:42.879 --> 00:08:46.240 wide receiver and or being a poor drafter quite honestly 168 00:08:46.240 --> 00:08:48.360 at wide receiver when you had Brady making up for 169 00:08:48.440 --> 00:08:51.399 all of those mistakes. Absolutely right, he didn't seem to 170 00:08:51.519 --> 00:08:54.279 fully Yeah, he didn't seem to fully grasp that. Like 171 00:08:54.360 --> 00:08:55.960 that was not going to be an approach that you 172 00:08:55.960 --> 00:08:59.000 could have with Mac Jones or anybody else really, I 173 00:08:59.000 --> 00:09:01.639 mean unless you had Chick Mahomes or Lamar Jackson or 174 00:09:01.639 --> 00:09:03.879 one of these dudes who are like absolutely truly elite. 175 00:09:04.159 --> 00:09:08.600 So that, but I also do feel like when you 176 00:09:08.679 --> 00:09:12.039 make so you're now made the playoffs with Mac Jones 177 00:09:12.080 --> 00:09:15.519 as a rookie louse McDaniels. Again, this is like a 178 00:09:15.559 --> 00:09:16.919 pattern through Patriots. 179 00:09:17.000 --> 00:09:19.159 Yeah, that really hurt him, you know, Telly, that's a 180 00:09:19.159 --> 00:09:21.200 good point that hasn't discussed enough that the loss of 181 00:09:21.279 --> 00:09:24.440 McDaniel sent thim south because then he put it defensive 182 00:09:24.480 --> 00:09:25.759 guys in and that was stupid. 183 00:09:26.960 --> 00:09:31.519 Yeah, it was stupid, and he there were definitely his issue. 184 00:09:31.879 --> 00:09:34.519 I just I think that the conversation about the drafting 185 00:09:34.559 --> 00:09:38.679 thing is just so deeply overblown because when you lose Brady, 186 00:09:39.159 --> 00:09:42.519 that the whole idea was that Brady leaving made exposed 187 00:09:42.519 --> 00:09:46.639 Belichick right as is bad GM. But when they were 188 00:09:46.639 --> 00:09:50.200 winning super Bowls and building those rosters while having Brady, 189 00:09:50.240 --> 00:09:52.600 the whole discussion was, this is how you build a 190 00:09:52.679 --> 00:09:55.000 roster when you had one of the great quarterbacks of 191 00:09:55.000 --> 00:09:57.480 all time. Right, So it's like, okay, well he didn't 192 00:09:57.480 --> 00:09:59.440 have one of the great quarterbacks of all time. He 193 00:09:59.480 --> 00:10:02.000 had to, you know, go through the COVID season with 194 00:10:02.080 --> 00:10:05.159 Cam Newton's pretty good season all things considered when you 195 00:10:05.159 --> 00:10:07.559 look back at it, and then Mac Jones as a rookie, 196 00:10:07.600 --> 00:10:11.519 they make the playoffs and then yeah that things were rough. 197 00:10:11.679 --> 00:10:14.639 Morale was low. Turns out Mac Jones not a great 198 00:10:14.639 --> 00:10:18.720 offensive leader, not let alone the performance on the field 199 00:10:18.919 --> 00:10:21.120 there was a lot going on. So I look back 200 00:10:21.120 --> 00:10:24.600 at those draft class I'm like, there's some players in 201 00:10:24.639 --> 00:10:27.200 there that really matter that I think would have had 202 00:10:27.320 --> 00:10:30.360 everything been going right in the other areas, people wouldn't 203 00:10:30.360 --> 00:10:34.799 be so nitpicky about There's just to me when you 204 00:10:35.159 --> 00:10:38.600 start talking about the personnel and he had too much power, 205 00:10:39.080 --> 00:10:41.720 It's just like, you can't have it both ways. You 206 00:10:41.759 --> 00:10:45.200 either think that he has a knack for building defense 207 00:10:45.240 --> 00:10:47.879 and special teams and a weakness on offense, and you 208 00:10:47.919 --> 00:10:50.720 deal with it, or you don't and crap decided he 209 00:10:50.759 --> 00:10:52.840 didn't want to do with it. But I think replacing 210 00:10:52.879 --> 00:10:55.200 that level of experience is a lot more difficult than 211 00:10:55.240 --> 00:10:55.879 people realize. 212 00:10:55.919 --> 00:10:58.080 Well, there's no doubt about that. And if he had 213 00:10:58.159 --> 00:11:00.480 not put his two. 214 00:11:00.279 --> 00:11:02.879 Defensive guys there and his special teams coach, you know, 215 00:11:04.080 --> 00:11:06.000 got I'm so old, I forget their names, but everybody 216 00:11:06.000 --> 00:11:09.480 knows what I'm talking about. How about that? How arrogant 217 00:11:09.480 --> 00:11:11.000 am I? You know what I'm talking about people, but 218 00:11:11.039 --> 00:11:12.039 I can't remember their names. 219 00:11:13.440 --> 00:11:15.480 But I don't remember anyone's names. And I'm not old. 220 00:11:15.879 --> 00:11:18.399 Well obviously not after I thought you were older than 221 00:11:18.440 --> 00:11:20.840 you were. But if you just put in a regular 222 00:11:20.879 --> 00:11:23.840 offensive coordinator. You know, you could have used Mac Jones 223 00:11:23.879 --> 00:11:25.600 as a bridge to get you to the next guy. 224 00:11:26.480 --> 00:11:29.120 But when he messed up the offense, So what's that? 225 00:11:29.360 --> 00:11:31.000 I don't think. So I don't know what. 226 00:11:31.200 --> 00:11:31.399 I think. 227 00:11:31.480 --> 00:11:34.039 Mac Jones is a failure. No matter what, you don't 228 00:11:34.080 --> 00:11:34.679 think Jels. 229 00:11:34.919 --> 00:11:36.240 You don't think you could have used them for a 230 00:11:36.279 --> 00:11:38.120 couple of years just to maybe make the playoffs and 231 00:11:38.159 --> 00:11:39.360 then look for the next quarterback. 232 00:11:39.440 --> 00:11:43.399 No, absolutely not, No, I think with I think, I 233 00:11:43.480 --> 00:11:45.679 mean yes, I do think that had you gotten a 234 00:11:46.080 --> 00:11:49.720 McDaniel's level caliber two offensive coordinator, you probably could have 235 00:11:49.879 --> 00:11:52.519 made Josh McDaniels look a little bit I mean sorry, 236 00:11:52.519 --> 00:11:55.039 I made Mac Jones. 237 00:11:54.879 --> 00:11:57.240 Looked a little bit more serviceable for a little bit longer. 238 00:11:57.279 --> 00:12:00.360 But he was always going to regress because he was 239 00:12:00.600 --> 00:12:04.559 essentially just a McDaniel's system quarterback as a It just 240 00:12:04.759 --> 00:12:07.879 was this always happens with these guys who have these 241 00:12:07.919 --> 00:12:13.120 decent but unimpressive rookie seasons, but they make the playoffs whatever, 242 00:12:13.159 --> 00:12:16.720 we start thinking wow, like, you know, this is something 243 00:12:16.720 --> 00:12:19.279 that they could build on. But those guys also start 244 00:12:19.279 --> 00:12:21.559 thinking that and if you don't have the right mentality, 245 00:12:21.559 --> 00:12:23.879 which Mac Jones just didn't. He did not have the 246 00:12:23.919 --> 00:12:26.200 mentality of a franchise quarterback that could be the team. 247 00:12:26.639 --> 00:12:29.480 They end up becoming exactly what he did, which was 248 00:12:29.519 --> 00:12:32.159 over confident, not working on his passing game, not working 249 00:12:32.159 --> 00:12:34.559 on his mechanics, not working well with his coaches. Like 250 00:12:34.559 --> 00:12:37.919 those things were always going to happen past rookie season. 251 00:12:37.960 --> 00:12:40.879 They probably would have happened with McDaniel's too, It's just 252 00:12:41.080 --> 00:12:44.679 he ended up kind of that. McDaniels is one of 253 00:12:44.720 --> 00:12:48.240 those dudes who, with the right guy, can have those 254 00:12:48.279 --> 00:12:50.720 types of seasons. And he's not going to work for 255 00:12:50.799 --> 00:12:54.240 every type of quarterback but that pure you know, pocket passer. 256 00:12:54.559 --> 00:12:57.240 Yeah, yeah, he can make it work. What do you 257 00:12:57.240 --> 00:12:59.559 think about Belichick at seventy two years old and what 258 00:12:59.600 --> 00:13:01.600 was it his twenty four year old girlfriend came out 259 00:13:01.639 --> 00:13:04.240 and said he's staying at Carolina. 260 00:13:04.440 --> 00:13:09.840 Yeah, no, Grandpa's creepy as heck. Grandpa's Grandpa's gotta get 261 00:13:09.840 --> 00:13:12.360 off the fact that he's on social media now. And 262 00:13:12.399 --> 00:13:14.039 I'm like, dude, can you not do you know how 263 00:13:14.039 --> 00:13:16.639 many people give me crab about this, Like I cried 264 00:13:16.679 --> 00:13:18.799 when this guy retired and now he's being weird, So 265 00:13:18.840 --> 00:13:21.120 I just calm, creepy Grandpa, because there's nothing, there's no 266 00:13:21.159 --> 00:13:23.440 other way for me to cope, Like this guy's this 267 00:13:23.519 --> 00:13:26.320 guy has been in my life, you know since I 268 00:13:26.360 --> 00:13:29.879 was like thirteen years twelve, thirteen years old, and I 269 00:13:30.000 --> 00:13:31.639 just have to live with the creepiness. But you know 270 00:13:31.679 --> 00:13:32.639 he's not the only one. 271 00:13:32.720 --> 00:13:35.399 So well, No, there's a lot of seventy two year 272 00:13:35.399 --> 00:13:37.480 old guys that if there was a young twenty four 273 00:13:37.559 --> 00:13:39.720 year old woman would want to marry them or live 274 00:13:39.759 --> 00:13:41.480 with him, that would certainly say yes. It's the other 275 00:13:41.480 --> 00:13:45.360 way around, is like you have to want yeah. 276 00:13:44.600 --> 00:13:47.840 God, oh I do, I do wonder And you know what, 277 00:13:47.919 --> 00:13:49.799 that's not for me, that's for her to deal with. 278 00:13:49.919 --> 00:13:51.919 That's her own trauma to deal with. And I'm glad 279 00:13:51.960 --> 00:13:54.679 it's I'm glad that I was never in that specific position. 280 00:13:55.000 --> 00:13:58.679 But either way, you know, wish them the best. Don't 281 00:13:58.679 --> 00:14:02.399 want to see it. Please leave it away from my eyeballs. 282 00:14:01.960 --> 00:14:02.320 Got it? 283 00:14:02.759 --> 00:14:04.960 Tay Ray Fox is with us from Fox Sports in 284 00:14:05.000 --> 00:14:08.480 Los Angeles. We're going to continue the conversation on Rabel 285 00:14:08.519 --> 00:14:10.919 in the NFL. Coming up next to WBZ. 286 00:14:11.679 --> 00:14:14.960 Now Baptist Dan Ray live from the Window World Nice 287 00:14:15.000 --> 00:14:17.879 Side Studios. On WBZ News Radio. 288 00:14:18.200 --> 00:14:20.879 Social media star was kid check her out on all 289 00:14:20.879 --> 00:14:23.279 the platforms x TikTok at least for the next forty 290 00:14:23.320 --> 00:14:25.720 eight hours in Instagram and whatever is coming down the 291 00:14:25.759 --> 00:14:28.279 road from FS one and Fox Sports. It's our own 292 00:14:28.600 --> 00:14:31.679 Tanya Ray Fox. All right, let's get to Rabel in 293 00:14:31.720 --> 00:14:32.320 the situation. 294 00:14:32.759 --> 00:14:32.919 Now. 295 00:14:32.960 --> 00:14:35.600 I had Bert Breyer on last night, and you know, 296 00:14:35.639 --> 00:14:38.320 Burt's prey plugged in as you know. So this is 297 00:14:38.360 --> 00:14:41.480 what we figured out so far that Rabel will have 298 00:14:41.600 --> 00:14:45.080 final say, but he's not going to get caught up 299 00:14:45.360 --> 00:14:48.480 in the day to day front office stuff that Bill did. 300 00:14:49.159 --> 00:14:50.480 He will have people. 301 00:14:50.200 --> 00:14:53.279 In the front office do that for him, possibly Elliott 302 00:14:53.279 --> 00:14:57.759 Wolf with another Vrabel guy that have they've worked together 303 00:14:57.799 --> 00:15:02.159 in the past. So Able still will have final say, 304 00:15:03.080 --> 00:15:05.879 but unlike Bill, he's not going to be playing GM 305 00:15:05.960 --> 00:15:07.159 every minute of every day. 306 00:15:07.879 --> 00:15:08.960 I don't know what you think about that. 307 00:15:10.200 --> 00:15:12.679 Yeah, I mean I think that that tracks right. Bill 308 00:15:12.799 --> 00:15:15.320 was really Bill Belichick was really the only guide doing 309 00:15:15.320 --> 00:15:18.360 what Bill Belichick was doing for a reason, and quite honestly, 310 00:15:18.440 --> 00:15:21.000 it takes a lot of It takes a lot of 311 00:15:21.120 --> 00:15:24.679 energy and effort to even do the regular head coach job. 312 00:15:24.759 --> 00:15:26.720 Let alone be in charge of personnel and hiring that 313 00:15:26.799 --> 00:15:28.759 and sort of managing that to begin with. So it 314 00:15:28.799 --> 00:15:30.840 makes it makes perfect sense to me that they would 315 00:15:30.840 --> 00:15:33.240 have people installed to do the day to day management 316 00:15:33.240 --> 00:15:36.840 of that. And you know, I still think it's fine 317 00:15:37.039 --> 00:15:41.960 that that rabel is sort of crafting the personnel and 318 00:15:42.000 --> 00:15:44.960 then letting it be managed elsewhere. He's i mean, he's there, 319 00:15:45.000 --> 00:15:46.720 he's in the building, he's taking care of things, like 320 00:15:47.039 --> 00:15:50.919 it makes the most sense. But you know, there's there 321 00:15:51.000 --> 00:15:53.960 was there's maybe two coaches in the last you know, 322 00:15:54.039 --> 00:15:56.799 twenty five years that would be qualified to do anything 323 00:15:56.840 --> 00:15:57.879 more than that, quite honestly. 324 00:15:58.720 --> 00:16:01.320 Well, And one of the things that Bert said would 325 00:16:01.320 --> 00:16:04.879 be Friday during a season, nine am and Bill would 326 00:16:04.879 --> 00:16:08.720 be in a meeting about the draft during the season. 327 00:16:09.799 --> 00:16:12.679 It's like, why you don't have to be Yeah, I mean, 328 00:16:12.679 --> 00:16:16.080 you know, you know, there's no need for that. And 329 00:16:16.120 --> 00:16:18.720 I think verybel understands that where you have the right 330 00:16:18.759 --> 00:16:21.080 people in the front office that can do that day 331 00:16:21.120 --> 00:16:23.399 to day stuff, and then when the season's over, it's 332 00:16:23.440 --> 00:16:24.960 time to get ready for the draft to come in 333 00:16:25.000 --> 00:16:25.600 and they tell you. 334 00:16:25.559 --> 00:16:30.080 What's up, Yeah, Belichick coming. I mean, he's always his 335 00:16:30.240 --> 00:16:33.799 need to be involved in absolutely everything. It was good 336 00:16:33.879 --> 00:16:37.159 until it wasn't right, and it was productive until it wasn't. 337 00:16:37.200 --> 00:16:40.840 And when you didn't have to micromanage your quarterback, when 338 00:16:40.840 --> 00:16:42.879 your quarterback was actually sitting with you in meetings, when 339 00:16:42.879 --> 00:16:45.720 you trusted their instincts, when you had those conversations and 340 00:16:45.720 --> 00:16:48.799 you weren't developing a young rookie or dealing with Cam 341 00:16:48.840 --> 00:16:51.639 Newton coming in from the Panthers during COVID seasons and 342 00:16:51.840 --> 00:16:54.840 all of this other stuff. You that's when Belichick should 343 00:16:54.840 --> 00:16:57.000 have been able to recognize that that's spreading yourself too 344 00:16:57.000 --> 00:16:59.320 thin and that you're not focusing on the task at hand, 345 00:16:59.360 --> 00:17:02.960 which is something that he preached to absolutely everybody else. 346 00:17:03.279 --> 00:17:06.960 And I think the player the coaches who are former 347 00:17:07.000 --> 00:17:09.960 players have a different perspective on what needs to be 348 00:17:10.039 --> 00:17:13.640 invested in the players in order for them to succeed. Now, 349 00:17:13.680 --> 00:17:17.480 there's varying degrees of success in doing that, but Vrabel, 350 00:17:18.920 --> 00:17:22.960 he was there seeing what worked early on when Belichick, 351 00:17:23.039 --> 00:17:26.440 before Belichick had the greatest coach, the greatest quarterback of 352 00:17:26.480 --> 00:17:29.119 all time, when he just had a really incredible quarterback, 353 00:17:29.160 --> 00:17:33.240 a really great quarterback. And so that early dynasty is 354 00:17:33.359 --> 00:17:38.079 actually the best belichick blueprint, and that's where he played, 355 00:17:38.400 --> 00:17:40.759 That's when he played for him. So whatever he took 356 00:17:40.799 --> 00:17:43.799 out of that is absolutely going to be applied to 357 00:17:44.079 --> 00:17:47.599 how he functions as somebody who's in charge of personnel 358 00:17:47.640 --> 00:17:49.920 but is really focusing on being a head coach and 359 00:17:50.400 --> 00:17:53.440 understanding where these players are coming from. That is the 360 00:17:53.559 --> 00:17:56.400 pro to having a former player as a coach. When 361 00:17:56.400 --> 00:17:58.680 it works. When it doesn't work, it looks a lot 362 00:17:58.680 --> 00:18:01.160 more like Gerrod Mayo, who is trying a little too 363 00:18:01.200 --> 00:18:04.000 hard to relate to the players. And I do think 364 00:18:04.039 --> 00:18:07.200 that Rabel has the has a better balance, has struck 365 00:18:07.240 --> 00:18:08.039 a better balance at that. 366 00:18:09.119 --> 00:18:11.680 Did I ever tell you that Mike Vrabel's story when 367 00:18:11.759 --> 00:18:14.079 he first came here from Pittsburgh, fact that when you 368 00:18:14.119 --> 00:18:17.680 were obviously like you in high school. 369 00:18:18.680 --> 00:18:20.119 Yeah, so Vrabel came in. 370 00:18:21.519 --> 00:18:23.559 Was here in one o two. I can't remember if 371 00:18:23.559 --> 00:18:25.319 it was. I think it was after the first Super Bowl. 372 00:18:25.359 --> 00:18:27.200 I think he was here for the next two Super 373 00:18:27.240 --> 00:18:31.519 Bowls yet, because yeah, he might have been here for 374 00:18:31.559 --> 00:18:35.759 the first one because Rabel was a linebacker in Pittsburgh 375 00:18:35.799 --> 00:18:38.559 or a defensive end hybrid type of thing, and he 376 00:18:38.680 --> 00:18:40.720 was actually the guy that knocked the ball out of 377 00:18:40.839 --> 00:18:44.920 drew Bloodshoe's hand when the Patriots lost to Pittsburgh in 378 00:18:44.920 --> 00:18:48.440 the title game. So Vrabel was a stud coming out 379 00:18:48.440 --> 00:18:50.519 of Ohio State. When he got to Pittsburgh, he kind 380 00:18:50.519 --> 00:18:53.079 of got lost in the shuffle, right, and his stock 381 00:18:53.119 --> 00:18:54.960 went down. So Bill was able to make a good 382 00:18:54.960 --> 00:18:57.480 deal for him and bring him in. But he wasn't 383 00:18:57.759 --> 00:19:00.720 he wasn't considered one of the top backers. Atsbergery was in, 384 00:19:00.839 --> 00:19:03.880 like you know Greg Lloyd or all those guys down there, right, 385 00:19:04.880 --> 00:19:08.200 So when they brought him over, I was doing sports tonight, 386 00:19:08.240 --> 00:19:11.920 which I'm sure you were watching every night, and I said, 387 00:19:12.799 --> 00:19:14.240 what the hell is Mike Rabel? 388 00:19:14.640 --> 00:19:16.400 What is this guy gonna do? Right? 389 00:19:17.279 --> 00:19:20.039 So Larry Iso and all those guys like I used 390 00:19:20.079 --> 00:19:23.519 to laugh, like Rodney Harrison watched us every night and 391 00:19:23.559 --> 00:19:25.960 you go into locker room and he would just kill us, 392 00:19:26.400 --> 00:19:27.799 absolutely destroy. 393 00:19:27.559 --> 00:19:28.440 Us, which we loved. 394 00:19:29.200 --> 00:19:33.079 And so Iso recorded the thing and he puts it 395 00:19:33.160 --> 00:19:37.000 on Rabel's voicemail that this is this tangue guy saying, 396 00:19:37.000 --> 00:19:37.839 who's Mike Rabel? 397 00:19:37.839 --> 00:19:39.000 What the hell's he done? Anyway? 398 00:19:39.599 --> 00:19:42.160 So I first meet Rabel, I mean he is like 399 00:19:42.839 --> 00:19:45.839 he is he is like steams coming out of his nose, 400 00:19:45.960 --> 00:19:46.680 you know, he's sorting. 401 00:19:46.680 --> 00:19:49.359