WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.640 --> 00:00:02.879 Here's the Commander Who Go Podcast, Episode four fifty seven. 2 00:00:02.879 --> 00:00:04.559 I'm brand ome here with Ryan and we're gonna continue 3 00:00:04.559 --> 00:00:06.080 our adventures thro Dusk War by talking about some of 4 00:00:06.080 --> 00:00:07.240 the legendary survivors. 5 00:00:07.280 --> 00:00:10.400 Now our theme sal. 6 00:00:17.600 --> 00:00:21.800 Hey, Ryan, We're back for yet another whirlwind adventure. How 7 00:00:21.839 --> 00:00:24.920 you doing? We're back? What is going down? The whole 8 00:00:24.960 --> 00:00:27.480 ton is going down. We're gonna talk about some horror 9 00:00:27.519 --> 00:00:31.320 movie homies. That's pretty good tool. We got some stories 10 00:00:31.359 --> 00:00:33.640 to tell, some people to thanks, some things to bring 11 00:00:33.679 --> 00:00:36.159 people all the way up to speed on. Before we 12 00:00:36.200 --> 00:00:37.679 get to any of that, we have to thank our 13 00:00:37.679 --> 00:00:40.600 official business, Daddy's Fusion Gaming Online. They are your source 14 00:00:40.640 --> 00:00:44.240 for all your gaming needs and pile of bones brewing cold. 15 00:00:44.240 --> 00:00:46.520 They are the second coolest thing to come OUTO Regina 16 00:00:46.759 --> 00:00:51.840 and also the official beer sponsor for CCEO side Walk 17 00:00:52.000 --> 00:00:54.840 Slam Season two right here on YouTube. 18 00:00:54.880 --> 00:00:57.520 Oh and I do have a note in my show 19 00:00:57.560 --> 00:01:01.840 notes because there are notes here that say Sidewalk Slam 20 00:01:01.920 --> 00:01:05.439 Season two will commence. We have guests lined up. We 21 00:01:05.599 --> 00:01:07.439 just got to schedule a day that works for everybody, 22 00:01:07.439 --> 00:01:09.760 because one of the people works shift work, and sometimes 23 00:01:09.799 --> 00:01:12.400 it's days, sometimes it's nights. And it's got to work 24 00:01:12.400 --> 00:01:17.599 with producer Gary's packed full studio schedule. I can alliterate 25 00:01:17.640 --> 00:01:20.920 as well. So that big thanks to h producer Gary 26 00:01:21.359 --> 00:01:27.000 and the damn Studio studio, Yes, damn Network Network, Yeah 27 00:01:27.280 --> 00:01:29.599 for letting us be here being in the beautiful paper 28 00:01:29.599 --> 00:01:30.239 Boy studio. 29 00:01:30.400 --> 00:01:34.840 Did you ever call it the brick the brick? Yeah nope. 30 00:01:35.120 --> 00:01:37.840 Sam said that the other day, and I almost shat myself. 31 00:01:37.879 --> 00:01:38.920 I was laughing so hard. 32 00:01:38.760 --> 00:01:40.359 For those in the Land of the Free who don't 33 00:01:40.359 --> 00:01:42.480 have the brick, because I think it is a Canadian thing. 34 00:01:42.799 --> 00:01:44.519 The brick is only in Canadian, I think. 35 00:01:44.560 --> 00:01:46.280 So it's like a furniture store here. 36 00:01:46.480 --> 00:01:49.480 Yeah, it's like disposable furniture, like just fast fashion that 37 00:01:49.519 --> 00:01:52.040 you buy off a Shean or Timu or whatever. Yes, 38 00:01:52.159 --> 00:01:57.200 the Brick is that, but furniture and expensive. 39 00:01:57.400 --> 00:01:59.879 Oh I don't shop at the Brick because I have 40 00:02:00.079 --> 00:02:02.480 all the furniture that I need and it isn't disposable. 41 00:02:03.159 --> 00:02:05.719 I need a new coach, but I don't want to 42 00:02:05.719 --> 00:02:06.120 go there. 43 00:02:06.519 --> 00:02:09.319 Oh well, but hey, if the Brick wants to shill 44 00:02:09.319 --> 00:02:11.159 out some sponsorship money, we'll tell you to go to 45 00:02:11.199 --> 00:02:11.560 the Brick. 46 00:02:11.719 --> 00:02:12.280 No we won't. 47 00:02:12.400 --> 00:02:15.520 Yeah, Okay, well, you should go to Fusion Gaming Online 48 00:02:15.520 --> 00:02:17.599 dot com because that is actually a good place. 49 00:02:17.680 --> 00:02:18.080 Yes, it is. 50 00:02:18.280 --> 00:02:23.319 Just got me my Imskire iron beater. Used CEO Summer 51 00:02:23.319 --> 00:02:26.759 promo code, got a discount, got the got the showcase 52 00:02:26.800 --> 00:02:31.319 profile face one, that's the one you want, Yes, sir uh. 53 00:02:30.919 --> 00:02:32.800 Non foil because I want to paint it completely full 54 00:02:32.879 --> 00:02:35.080 art because he only has ninety eight lines of text 55 00:02:35.080 --> 00:02:37.000 and I want to every time have to look it 56 00:02:37.080 --> 00:02:38.120 up because I forget what it does. 57 00:02:38.280 --> 00:02:39.560 Ah. 58 00:02:39.639 --> 00:02:43.000 Yeah, so CEO Summer you can see it on the 59 00:02:43.039 --> 00:02:45.639 TV now if you're watching on YouTube, which should be 60 00:02:46.280 --> 00:02:49.360 Editor Joe hasn't had to exercise the if you, if you, 61 00:02:49.400 --> 00:02:52.199 which you should be graphic for a while. 62 00:02:52.280 --> 00:02:52.479 Yeah. 63 00:02:52.560 --> 00:02:54.759 Yeah, so big thanks to editor Joe as well. 64 00:02:54.960 --> 00:02:56.840 CEO some are gonna get you a discount if it's 65 00:02:56.879 --> 00:02:59.120 your first time, you're spending over one hundred Canadian dollars. 66 00:02:59.159 --> 00:03:03.520 That's like for US d you can use CEO Permo code. 67 00:03:03.719 --> 00:03:05.879 You're gonna get ten percent store credit kickback. Like I 68 00:03:05.879 --> 00:03:08.280 don't know if you're buying a box at dusk More 69 00:03:09.000 --> 00:03:11.719 or buying the full set of all four pre cons 70 00:03:11.800 --> 00:03:16.120 they have those at Fusion or play Mats dice, tokens, stickers, 71 00:03:16.680 --> 00:03:17.599 stickers is us. 72 00:03:17.680 --> 00:03:20.240 Yeah, board games, yeah, play MAT's D and D books. 73 00:03:20.240 --> 00:03:20.879 They got it all. 74 00:03:20.879 --> 00:03:22.199 Back issues, secret layers. 75 00:03:22.520 --> 00:03:24.520 Yeah, back issues. That's what we have because we're old. 76 00:03:25.599 --> 00:03:31.879 What Oh I understand, yeah, don't live. I thought I 77 00:03:31.919 --> 00:03:34.759 was still thinking about like comic books and oh description 78 00:03:34.879 --> 00:03:37.439 services from Yeah, I was, yeah, I understand. 79 00:03:37.639 --> 00:03:39.479 Yeah, Hey, we got a show for a couple more minutes. 80 00:03:39.639 --> 00:03:42.840 Uh, I mentioned stickers. We got some new ones. Commander 81 00:03:42.879 --> 00:03:44.840 coocoat dot com. You can get my ebook there if 82 00:03:44.840 --> 00:03:46.879 you're interested in learning how to do your own altered 83 00:03:47.000 --> 00:03:50.000 art cards or book a lesson or commission there that 84 00:03:50.319 --> 00:03:52.199 goes right to our email and we can see that. 85 00:03:52.879 --> 00:03:55.759 And oh, this one's my favorite because people are messaging 86 00:03:55.800 --> 00:03:57.000 me like left, right and center. 87 00:03:57.560 --> 00:04:02.120 CCEO Experience Calgary. Yeah, baby's coming up, she's coming up. 88 00:04:02.199 --> 00:04:04.520 We've labeled it a CEO experience because we're not going 89 00:04:04.520 --> 00:04:08.039 to Vegas, and we've got like, oh men, so many 90 00:04:08.080 --> 00:04:10.080 people already like hey, put my name down, put my 91 00:04:10.120 --> 00:04:12.000 name down, put my name down. You got to be 92 00:04:12.039 --> 00:04:15.960 a Patreon supporter over at patreon dot com. Slash CCO 93 00:04:16.040 --> 00:04:18.800 podcast to get in there. You get an invite you 94 00:04:18.839 --> 00:04:20.800 can get in on the planning. We've got a thread 95 00:04:20.800 --> 00:04:24.600 in our discord, which is another Patreon benefit and another 96 00:04:24.639 --> 00:04:28.680 Patreon benefit, knowing that you're gonna keep CEO like going 97 00:04:28.800 --> 00:04:31.879 chugging along, chugging along, because if it weren't for the patrons, 98 00:04:31.879 --> 00:04:35.040 the show would have died like a long time ago, right, Like, 99 00:04:35.480 --> 00:04:38.839 there's an expense for the show and some of the 100 00:04:38.879 --> 00:04:41.399 equipment and the time and the editing and the software 101 00:04:41.439 --> 00:04:43.240 that we that we lease every month that. 102 00:04:43.240 --> 00:04:46.439 Helps us do all the storage space, yeah. 103 00:04:46.279 --> 00:04:47.120 To do all the stuff. 104 00:04:47.160 --> 00:04:48.839 So if you want to support the show and get 105 00:04:48.839 --> 00:04:51.759 cool benefits like the discord and get your decks featured 106 00:04:51.959 --> 00:04:54.560 and the CCO experience. 107 00:04:54.519 --> 00:04:56.560 Even if you're not in the house. 108 00:04:57.000 --> 00:04:59.360 There's members of CECO Nation that are playing in like 109 00:04:59.439 --> 00:05:03.079 the main vent in Calgary or the CEDH tournament in 110 00:05:03.120 --> 00:05:05.079 Calgary that aren't staying in our house because. 111 00:05:04.839 --> 00:05:08.480 They're like studying up and trying too hard. Yeah, they're being. 112 00:05:08.319 --> 00:05:09.560 All sweaty about it. 113 00:05:10.199 --> 00:05:12.000 You still get some of the swag and get to 114 00:05:12.040 --> 00:05:15.399 come to whatever it is after parties and get in 115 00:05:15.439 --> 00:05:17.800 on all of the extra curriculars I call them. 116 00:05:17.839 --> 00:05:19.639 I hope that we get to stay in a big mansion. 117 00:05:20.639 --> 00:05:23.839 I have been looking at houses in like South Calgary. 118 00:05:23.839 --> 00:05:25.319 It's gonna have to be a big house. 119 00:05:25.600 --> 00:05:30.199 I wouldn't necessarily call it a mansion, but man, if 120 00:05:30.279 --> 00:05:33.000 enough people are interested and we gotta get a house 121 00:05:33.000 --> 00:05:36.079 that's got twenty bedrooms, man, I'll frick, I'll do it. 122 00:05:36.199 --> 00:05:37.839 I want to stay in another place that has a 123 00:05:37.879 --> 00:05:40.360 spider that's so big we name him. 124 00:05:41.040 --> 00:05:45.360 Yeah. That was the That was the Bellevue Seattle house. Yeah, 125 00:05:45.439 --> 00:05:47.759 base man, that was a cool house. 126 00:05:47.759 --> 00:05:49.759 It had like the wrap around deck like the bedroom 127 00:05:49.759 --> 00:05:51.120 that I was in, I could go out on the 128 00:05:51.160 --> 00:05:53.240 patio and the deck went all the way around the 129 00:05:53.240 --> 00:05:54.079 house to like the. 130 00:05:54.040 --> 00:05:58.639 Living room in the kitchen. Yeah. Cool place, super cool place. 131 00:05:58.639 --> 00:05:59.839 So if you want to be part of that kind 132 00:05:59.879 --> 00:06:01.720 of stuff, I think Producer Gary might even come. 133 00:06:02.160 --> 00:06:04.759 Maybe he'll take his old shitty car. We've got a 134 00:06:04.759 --> 00:06:06.360 bunch of really cool decks that were set and so 135 00:06:06.360 --> 00:06:07.480 we could even play. 136 00:06:07.800 --> 00:06:10.199 Yes, oh yeah, oh man, We've got so many deck 137 00:06:10.240 --> 00:06:12.920 submissions for Producer Gary to learn. 138 00:06:13.360 --> 00:06:14.120 Yeah. 139 00:06:14.439 --> 00:06:16.319 One of the probably gonna happen though, is we'll just 140 00:06:16.399 --> 00:06:19.399 make them go to Fusion Gaming and use CEO Perks 141 00:06:19.439 --> 00:06:21.920 promo code because it'll be his first time. Yeah, and 142 00:06:22.000 --> 00:06:25.399 he'll just buy a pre con no, I am in. 143 00:06:25.639 --> 00:06:27.959 We're talking about pre cons tomorrow on the on the 144 00:06:28.000 --> 00:06:31.879 Bonus episode. At least one of them is really good. 145 00:06:32.399 --> 00:06:33.600 Yeah, and it's. 146 00:06:33.519 --> 00:06:36.279 Gonna lead to some games that are like fucked. 147 00:06:37.360 --> 00:06:40.879 Yeah, I'm I said it on the pre SCIAW yesterday. 148 00:06:40.920 --> 00:06:43.639 I'm not not that they're bad. I'm not saying that 149 00:06:43.680 --> 00:06:46.240 they're bad. I'm just saying that I'm not intruing not 150 00:06:46.319 --> 00:06:47.759 feeling them. I'm not feeling them. 151 00:06:47.600 --> 00:06:49.079 Despite feeling the rest of the set. 152 00:06:49.319 --> 00:06:51.560 I do like this set aesthetic. I like a lot 153 00:06:51.600 --> 00:06:57.600 of the stuff. I didn't my brain didn't comprehend initially 154 00:06:57.720 --> 00:07:02.600 how few legendary creatures are in it. M I was 155 00:07:02.639 --> 00:07:04.560 thinking about it on the way over to the studio today. 156 00:07:04.600 --> 00:07:08.480 I like how that kind of feeds into the horror 157 00:07:08.560 --> 00:07:13.759 aesthetic of the show because the setup. Sorry, because when 158 00:07:13.759 --> 00:07:17.839 you've got all these legendary creatures and heroes and planes, 159 00:07:17.920 --> 00:07:22.040 walkers and demigods running around, well, why are they afraid 160 00:07:22.079 --> 00:07:26.279 of zombies and ghosts and stuff? They're not like look 161 00:07:26.319 --> 00:07:29.120 at Tivars, Like I fucking punch all these guys in 162 00:07:29.160 --> 00:07:32.000 the face because I have one dimension to my character 163 00:07:32.120 --> 00:07:37.639 and it's punching. I'm popular, and they're like, well, why 164 00:07:37.680 --> 00:07:40.240 is he afraid of anything? But all of the character, 165 00:07:40.399 --> 00:07:44.160 all the people in Duskmarnt are just regular people running 166 00:07:44.160 --> 00:07:47.600 around try and survive in this horrific environment where everything 167 00:07:47.759 --> 00:07:51.240 is trying to kill them. And it's just regular people 168 00:07:51.319 --> 00:07:54.360 running around, and that's something new. I like that. 169 00:07:54.439 --> 00:07:57.240 I'm a fan of it, like a nineties horror flick 170 00:07:57.279 --> 00:08:00.199 where some teenagers just get into some trouble that. 171 00:08:00.160 --> 00:08:02.079 They ought not to be in precisely. 172 00:08:02.199 --> 00:08:05.040 So that's like a trope which I wanted to ask 173 00:08:05.120 --> 00:08:09.800 you about both today and on tomorrow's pre con episode. 174 00:08:09.839 --> 00:08:12.040 This is okay, let's get into it because there's two 175 00:08:12.079 --> 00:08:14.199 things Uncle Brandon knows we talked about on the pre show. 176 00:08:14.800 --> 00:08:19.079 He knows two things. First thing, he knows how brandology, 177 00:08:19.160 --> 00:08:24.800 how to act and work with a huge wiener, And 178 00:08:24.839 --> 00:08:25.639 the second thing. 179 00:08:25.720 --> 00:08:26.439 Horror movies. 180 00:08:26.560 --> 00:08:29.040 Those are the two things I know about, especially terrible ones. 181 00:08:29.160 --> 00:08:32.039 Oh yeah, the worse the better. Yeah, okay. 182 00:08:32.159 --> 00:08:35.600 Oh one more thing. Oh, we forgot to do the 183 00:08:35.600 --> 00:08:39.080 giveaway on the pre show yesterday. Oh yeah, yes, for 184 00:08:39.120 --> 00:08:42.639 the Booster Pac game. We have a randomly selected Patreon 185 00:08:42.720 --> 00:08:48.919 winner to win a Cecio sticker pack, token pack or 186 00:08:48.960 --> 00:08:49.679 a booster pack. 187 00:08:53.159 --> 00:08:54.000 Got a frog in my throat? 188 00:08:54.039 --> 00:08:58.559 Stop eating my people? Yeah? Stop eating them? 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Yep. 203 00:09:36.519 --> 00:09:40.799 Okay, this is kind of like an overarching topic that 204 00:09:41.320 --> 00:09:43.879 I guess is like over top of all of Duskborn, 205 00:09:44.080 --> 00:09:47.759 the legends, the abilities, the pre cons, the cards in 206 00:09:47.799 --> 00:09:55.080 the set, overtop everything. Okay, do you recognize modern horror 207 00:09:55.200 --> 00:10:00.080 tropes that you would maybe find in movies and and 208 00:10:01.120 --> 00:10:04.919 I'm not talking about like vampires and werewolves like in 209 00:10:04.919 --> 00:10:08.399 in Astrade, like the classic horror tropes like Jacqueline Hyde 210 00:10:08.399 --> 00:10:12.159 and Frankenstein. And I'm not talking about cosmic horror like 211 00:10:12.320 --> 00:10:15.080 Lovecrafty and El Drozi. I'm not talking about that, although 212 00:10:15.080 --> 00:10:17.000 there is some of that also, there is some of 213 00:10:17.000 --> 00:10:18.840 that in here, yep, because we're kind of in a 214 00:10:18.840 --> 00:10:21.480 different dimension in this house or whatever. Right, Yeah, I 215 00:10:21.519 --> 00:10:25.919 guess watch Commander Munchies when that comes out. But do 216 00:10:26.000 --> 00:10:28.799 we see what we were expecting when they said or 217 00:10:28.840 --> 00:10:33.120 when they said things like modern horror, slasher flicks, chainsaw, 218 00:10:33.279 --> 00:10:35.960 leather Face. We got meat hook Masacre two. That's kind 219 00:10:35.960 --> 00:10:38.759 of leather facy. Do we see things like Buffalo Bill 220 00:10:38.879 --> 00:10:41.519 and Ghostface and Jason and Freddy Krueger. 221 00:10:41.600 --> 00:10:42.679 Are we getting that vibe? 222 00:10:42.799 --> 00:10:45.440 Yes? We are those all of those things that you 223 00:10:45.519 --> 00:10:48.600 said exist in this movie somewhere. There's like in this set, Yes, 224 00:10:48.679 --> 00:10:53.960 there's like four cards that reference Saw, not even including Saw. 225 00:10:54.120 --> 00:10:55.720 I forgot about Saw, right. 226 00:10:55.759 --> 00:10:57.879 There's lots of cards like do you want to play 227 00:10:57.879 --> 00:11:00.000 a game? There's the one where the two guys are 228 00:11:00.120 --> 00:11:03.120 like doing the tug of war over the great Big 229 00:11:03.159 --> 00:11:06.080 Buzzsaw trap and only one of them can walk out 230 00:11:06.120 --> 00:11:08.000 of the room alive. There's lots of those kinds of things. 231 00:11:08.000 --> 00:11:10.320 Annabel makes an appearance on two cards. There's the one 232 00:11:10.320 --> 00:11:12.600 that everybody thinks about in their head they're gonna talk 233 00:11:12.600 --> 00:11:15.000 about today. And then they have another card that's got 234 00:11:15.039 --> 00:11:18.559 like the real life Annabelle on it, which is really 235 00:11:18.600 --> 00:11:22.600 cool because she's not like this ornate, creepy doll like 236 00:11:22.639 --> 00:11:25.120 she is in the movies and the real the real 237 00:11:25.200 --> 00:11:28.120 life Annabelle that exists in the Warrens music, like, Museum 238 00:11:28.159 --> 00:11:31.840 of Horrors is like a shitty old raggedy an dolls, right, 239 00:11:31.840 --> 00:11:35.000 it probably it's not covered in in shit, but it 240 00:11:35.120 --> 00:11:38.039 is like this dirty old doll. Oh yeah, because it's 241 00:11:38.080 --> 00:11:40.919 just an old just haunted as shit. And there's an 242 00:11:40.960 --> 00:11:43.240 evil jack in the box called Attack in the Box, 243 00:11:43.279 --> 00:11:44.879 and I just I love that it's not an a 244 00:11:44.919 --> 00:11:46.320 legendary creature but Attack. 245 00:11:46.480 --> 00:11:48.840 Wait until we get like the Outdoorsman set and it'll 246 00:11:48.840 --> 00:11:49.960 be Tackle in the Box. 247 00:11:50.440 --> 00:11:52.120 It's like a fishing tackle box. 248 00:11:54.440 --> 00:11:56.120 And they've got a bunch of body horror in the thing, 249 00:11:56.200 --> 00:11:59.960 Like there's the the tools, the new batter skull, whatever 250 00:12:00.080 --> 00:12:03.000 the hell that thing's called, the surgery implements that. 251 00:12:03.039 --> 00:12:04.960 Are all like, yeah, we'll talk about that stuff. 252 00:12:05.000 --> 00:12:05.720 I think next week. 253 00:12:05.919 --> 00:12:07.720 When we took a look at all our favorite cards 254 00:12:07.720 --> 00:12:10.320 and stuff and we get those creepy like walker things 255 00:12:10.360 --> 00:12:12.320 that got those long legs and that can crawl on 256 00:12:12.360 --> 00:12:13.120 the roof and stuff. 257 00:12:13.559 --> 00:12:17.919 Okay, so Creepy Peeper is is that Creepy Peeper? 258 00:12:17.960 --> 00:12:20.200 That's a movie. That's a card? Oh, it's a card 259 00:12:20.200 --> 00:12:22.480 of the set. I guess, don't google that. I mean 260 00:12:23.240 --> 00:12:23.960 it is a card. 261 00:12:25.919 --> 00:12:28.679 There, it is. This is what this is leading to. 262 00:12:28.879 --> 00:12:31.720 Okay, is and I want to do this whenever we 263 00:12:31.720 --> 00:12:33.720 look at sets now because over the last few sets 264 00:12:33.720 --> 00:12:37.600 we've been taking a little bit closer looks at sets right, 265 00:12:37.879 --> 00:12:40.639 looking at pre cons, looking at legends, looking at everything right. 266 00:12:40.639 --> 00:12:42.240 Not just cards, but the set. 267 00:12:42.320 --> 00:12:44.600 And it's yeah, yeah, I think that that's how we 268 00:12:44.639 --> 00:12:48.320 can provide some value to the listeners in answering this 269 00:12:48.399 --> 00:12:52.440 question specifically, Okay, what does Dusk Mourn or any set 270 00:12:52.879 --> 00:12:57.639 provide the greater magic sphere or landscape? What is it 271 00:12:57.759 --> 00:13:03.080 giving us in terms of a bit interesting legends, new mechanics. 272 00:13:03.120 --> 00:13:06.639 I guess those are abilities the overall aesthetic, like is 273 00:13:06.679 --> 00:13:08.919 it opening a door to something new? 274 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:12.840 Are we getting that I'm going to opening a door 275 00:13:13.240 --> 00:13:14.120 to something new? 276 00:13:14.279 --> 00:13:16.919 And the example I thought of is is like the 277 00:13:17.000 --> 00:13:21.320 really top down themed sets like Amanket is opening the 278 00:13:21.360 --> 00:13:25.159 door to this Egyptian world that we know exists in 279 00:13:25.240 --> 00:13:28.000 video games and in movies, and now we have it 280 00:13:28.039 --> 00:13:29.879 and in D and D. Now we have it in Magic. 281 00:13:30.399 --> 00:13:33.679 Therros did that with like the Greek pantheon and old. 282 00:13:33.480 --> 00:13:34.639 School classical Greek. 283 00:13:34.720 --> 00:13:39.720 Right, yeah, this is opening up modern style horror and slasher. 284 00:13:39.240 --> 00:13:42.120 Flicks now based on some of the stuff I've heard, 285 00:13:42.159 --> 00:13:45.039 I don't think people are actually that pumped about that. Oh, 286 00:13:45.120 --> 00:13:48.399 like when you're seeing baseball bats and the ghostbuster guns 287 00:13:48.559 --> 00:13:53.320 and a literal cheerleader running away from a zombie. 288 00:13:53.440 --> 00:13:55.360 You know, come on, come on, how could you not 289 00:13:55.559 --> 00:13:57.840 like it? But I can understand why people don't. 290 00:13:57.919 --> 00:14:01.879 I understand it is too modern, too real world like 291 00:14:02.039 --> 00:14:03.000 real life, like. 292 00:14:03.000 --> 00:14:07.120 When we went to Stranger Things and Walking Dead for 293 00:14:07.159 --> 00:14:10.279 a first couple, like Secret Layers right for the universes beyond. 294 00:14:09.960 --> 00:14:14.200 Where it's just people in real life? Yeah, who are 295 00:14:14.519 --> 00:14:15.480 people in? Right? 296 00:14:15.559 --> 00:14:18.000 It's Mac and I talked about that on Commander History 297 00:14:18.039 --> 00:14:20.799 that we went for like an hour just talking about that. 298 00:14:21.279 --> 00:14:23.480 I can get why people aren't behind it. I don't 299 00:14:23.519 --> 00:14:26.799 think it dilutes the game, but I I can see. 300 00:14:26.600 --> 00:14:28.960 Where people are coming from when they do that makes 301 00:14:29.000 --> 00:14:30.679 it feel not like fantasy. 302 00:14:30.759 --> 00:14:33.480 And the thing that I think Dusk Worn adds to 303 00:14:33.559 --> 00:14:36.879 the greater game myself is I think that this is 304 00:14:37.000 --> 00:14:41.360 WATSI kind of showing us that they are willing to 305 00:14:41.840 --> 00:14:45.799 not push Commander as hard as they have been. 306 00:14:46.320 --> 00:14:49.320 That's that's like, that's like meta. 307 00:14:48.840 --> 00:14:50.519 Because when you look at this set, there's not very 308 00:14:50.519 --> 00:14:55.600 many legends. Nope, there's one new deck archetype that you're 309 00:14:55.639 --> 00:14:58.519 going to see, which is Doors, which they just fully 310 00:14:58.600 --> 00:15:00.039 fleshed out and put into the. 311 00:15:00.360 --> 00:15:02.320 With a five colored door Commander. 312 00:15:02.000 --> 00:15:04.720 Right, like, we'll talk about it sounds so stupid, will 313 00:15:05.080 --> 00:15:07.879 the command door? It is stupid, and the deck isn't 314 00:15:07.879 --> 00:15:13.799 gonna be good, right, it's not. I didn't put that 315 00:15:13.840 --> 00:15:18.639 one together, And so I think, but there's there isn't 316 00:15:18.679 --> 00:15:22.240 a lot of there. There's some support for existing decks 317 00:15:22.240 --> 00:15:24.200 that there's a Miracles deck that they build, there's a 318 00:15:24.240 --> 00:15:26.919 whole bunch of graveyard stuff for those strategies. But I 319 00:15:26.919 --> 00:15:29.919 feel like a lot of the cards are more focused 320 00:15:30.080 --> 00:15:35.600 on the other constructed formats slash sealed event stuff, right 321 00:15:35.679 --> 00:15:38.879 m hm. And I think that that's kind of WATSA saying, hey, 322 00:15:38.919 --> 00:15:42.159 look like we're still willing to do this. You guys, 323 00:15:42.399 --> 00:15:44.759 and as long as this set sells well, which I 324 00:15:44.840 --> 00:15:49.720 happen to have spoken with some retailers abone, it is 325 00:15:50.240 --> 00:15:50.840 oh good. 326 00:15:51.039 --> 00:15:54.120 But despite everybody that I've seen online saying, you know what, 327 00:15:54.159 --> 00:15:56.720 that's not for me, I'm still moving. 328 00:15:56.960 --> 00:15:59.799 It's still moving based on the retailers that I've spoken to, 329 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:05.080 and apparently the distributors didn't think that it was going 330 00:16:05.120 --> 00:16:08.720 to to the point that they were sending out extra 331 00:16:08.799 --> 00:16:14.519 bonus free product to anybody that box I did. I did, actually, 332 00:16:14.600 --> 00:16:18.120 so like in our local store, anybody who buys a box, 333 00:16:18.399 --> 00:16:23.320 the company sent our store two boxers boxes of Collector Boosters. 334 00:16:23.600 --> 00:16:26.159 Everybody that buys a box gets a collector booster along 335 00:16:26.200 --> 00:16:27.200 with the promo card. 336 00:16:27.320 --> 00:16:29.080 Well, even if you buy a collector box. 337 00:16:28.879 --> 00:16:31.360 Collector box gets one, right, you get like an extra 338 00:16:32.720 --> 00:16:35.919 bone bonus box or whatever. And I mean it's a 339 00:16:35.919 --> 00:16:39.200 pack bonus box. Don't google that. But they're still like 340 00:16:39.799 --> 00:16:43.639 trying to encourage people to buy some sealed product. And 341 00:16:43.679 --> 00:16:47.960 I think that that's that's cool. But it also shows 342 00:16:47.960 --> 00:16:51.480 that maybe WATSI has a little bit less confidence going 343 00:16:51.480 --> 00:16:54.440 into this one because it's not so focused on Commander. 344 00:16:54.799 --> 00:16:57.320 But I think that that is a bonus where they're 345 00:16:57.320 --> 00:16:59.919 actually looking at the other formats and saying, hey, here's 346 00:17:00.120 --> 00:17:01.039 some shit for you guys. 347 00:17:01.399 --> 00:17:04.920 You know what, I know when we go to the 348 00:17:05.319 --> 00:17:07.640 bigger face to face games, like I'm going to face 349 00:17:07.680 --> 00:17:11.680 to face his Command Fest. Dusk Morn. Command Fest launch 350 00:17:11.759 --> 00:17:14.920 in Toronto this weekend. We're recording this episode at a 351 00:17:14.920 --> 00:17:17.680 different time so I can be on a plane. And 352 00:17:18.240 --> 00:17:21.079 I know that at least on Friday evening and Saturday 353 00:17:21.160 --> 00:17:24.559 all day there's never any trouble firing sealed and drafts 354 00:17:24.640 --> 00:17:25.680 for the set DuJour. 355 00:17:26.200 --> 00:17:28.200 But I'm gonna do a little bit of extra homework. 356 00:17:28.240 --> 00:17:30.079 I'm going to talk to some of the retail people 357 00:17:30.599 --> 00:17:32.599 and some of the events staff and say, hey, like, 358 00:17:32.720 --> 00:17:36.000 how is dusk Morn doing? Are people excited to play 359 00:17:36.039 --> 00:17:41.119 the set? And our people buying the product at a 360 00:17:41.200 --> 00:17:43.240 higher clip than they would buy any other product that's 361 00:17:43.319 --> 00:17:47.599 launching the same weekend as the Command Fest, And are 362 00:17:47.720 --> 00:17:51.119 people picking up dusk Morn singles that you guys have 363 00:17:51.200 --> 00:17:53.599 in your showcases. There's gonna be a bunch of retailers there, 364 00:17:54.000 --> 00:17:56.319 and we've been to enough of these shows that I 365 00:17:56.440 --> 00:17:59.000 kind of know all of the workers and owners of 366 00:17:59.039 --> 00:18:00.720 the retail locations. 367 00:18:00.839 --> 00:18:02.480 Fusion's gonna be there face to face. 368 00:18:02.519 --> 00:18:05.200 We're partner with both of those those entities, and they're 369 00:18:05.319 --> 00:18:06.599 two of the biggest in Canada. 370 00:18:06.640 --> 00:18:07.319 At least I know. 371 00:18:07.759 --> 00:18:10.759 Canada has got like ten percent of the population that 372 00:18:10.880 --> 00:18:12.599 like the Land of the Free has. 373 00:18:12.880 --> 00:18:14.279 The population of New York State. 374 00:18:15.559 --> 00:18:19.240 Yeah, exactly, but there's still thirty five million people here. 375 00:18:19.240 --> 00:18:21.960 And when you talk to some of the biggest retailers, 376 00:18:22.079 --> 00:18:23.279 you can get a good feel for it. 377 00:18:23.359 --> 00:18:25.559 So I'm super nervous that you're going to be around 378 00:18:25.559 --> 00:18:28.160 all those retailers, and I'm not because of reasons that. 379 00:18:28.119 --> 00:18:30.160 Make case I can find In case I can find 380 00:18:30.160 --> 00:18:32.160 a dark misprinted Griffin Canyon. 381 00:18:32.000 --> 00:18:33.599 It's gonna just ruin everything. 382 00:18:34.279 --> 00:18:36.880 Oh no, it'll it'll make my. 383 00:18:36.960 --> 00:18:39.720 Day unless I've already reached out to them to make sure. 384 00:18:40.279 --> 00:18:41.200 And you'll never know. 385 00:18:41.359 --> 00:18:45.000 Probably have so well, No, I know that you have, 386 00:18:45.079 --> 00:18:45.880 because you've told me. 387 00:18:47.359 --> 00:18:47.480 So. 388 00:18:47.759 --> 00:18:49.359 Dusk morn legends. 389 00:18:49.440 --> 00:18:52.160 Yeah, let's do some let's let's actually talk about some cards. 390 00:18:52.200 --> 00:18:53.799 Yeah, Now, before before we look. 391 00:18:53.640 --> 00:18:56.680 At any specific cards, there's one that I'm gonna take 392 00:18:56.720 --> 00:18:58.720 a stab at building and everybody, I think knows which 393 00:18:58.720 --> 00:19:00.839 one is. I know which one it is. Is there 394 00:19:00.839 --> 00:19:02.640 one that you're thinking, like, I know that you're still 395 00:19:02.680 --> 00:19:06.400 working on dink Smear, Metal Gorge or or whatever. Yes, yes, 396 00:19:06.519 --> 00:19:07.279 hundred years. 397 00:19:07.079 --> 00:19:12.680 Ago, but literally one set ago, one. 398 00:19:12.559 --> 00:19:15.880 Set and five releases ago. Yeah, do you is there 399 00:19:15.880 --> 00:19:17.720 anything in here that you're gonna like put on the 400 00:19:17.759 --> 00:19:20.599 back burner of you're gonna think about it and build one? 401 00:19:20.680 --> 00:19:24.400