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to do something like that. All right, Well, let's get

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started in today's topic again. So we had a question

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that was submitted and it wasn't necessarily about the National

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Electrical Code. It is going to impact us electrically. If

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you're a contractor and you're buying products, you're importing products,

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you're using boxes or or something that may be made

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in another country China, Singapore, or we're Taiwan or Japan

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or wherever, and you're.

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Speaker 1: Bringing it into the country.

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Speaker 2: You'll notice that we have new tariffs that went into

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or an elevated tariff that went into effect here on

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the ninth of April, and it's people are freaking out.

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I mean, everybody's freaking out. You know, the stock market's

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freaking out, going up and down, up and down. Even

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Dave Portnoy, who's saying that he lost money in the

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stock market because of these tariffs, and he's crying the blues.

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And that tells you that Dave is a day trader.

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He's not a long term investor. Okay, there's a big difference,

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and we'll talk about that today.

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Speaker 1: But I wanted to talk a little bit.

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Speaker 2: The question was and the question was submitted to me,

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and I'll read the question because it's important to get

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context of a question. Says Hey, Paul, I love your

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podcast and I was listening to your Coffee Hour this morning,

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and I have an important question I want to ask you,

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and it again, is your opinion. I understand you hate

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to give opinions on certain topics, but would you please

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give your opinion on the tariffs and why so many

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people are flipping out. It's not an issue of Republican

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versus democrat. It is simply an issue of people are

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freaking out because the US is finally standing up and

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requiring equal representation, whether it's import or export. I'd love

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to hear your thoughts on this. Keep up the good

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work and I'll catch you on tomorrow's coffee Hour. Okay,

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that is a great It does allow me to opine

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on it, and again I'm going to agree. I can

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see I've already gotten into debates over on YouTube and

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other channels and people having a hissy fit over these

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tariffs only because they're wanting to buy something right now,

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and the price went up on a Chinese import and

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they're freaking out, and I'm like.

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Speaker 1: Just chill out.

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Speaker 2: Did you really need it that bad right at this moment?

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Then let me explain a little bit.

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Speaker 1: So, first of all, what are tariffs.

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Speaker 2: In the easiest explanation of a tariff for everybody out

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there who's not aware of terrorists, it's a tax.

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Speaker 1: Basically, it's a tax.

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Speaker 2: If you want to sell your product in my country

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then you're going to pay a tax, right And basically

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we take that tax. If I sell my product in

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your country, I'm going to pay a tax, now, Drew,

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One thing was great when we got rid of NAFTA

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years ago and we changed that in order to get

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a much better and this was under Trump's first term,

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a much better agreement between let's say Canada and Mexico

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and the North American Free Trade Deal. When we got

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a better deal, it was better for America. And you

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know what, it kind of slid on the radar. Nobody

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made a big wave about it. But it was great

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because the NAFTA was very lopsided, okay, trade deal, very

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lopsided trade deal. And so let's look at it now.

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So why are tariffs important. For one, when we there's

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certain countries in Europe, for example, that do not take

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American goods. They will limit they say their roads are

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too thin or too narrow. They don't want our cars

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over there. If we make an American card, they don't

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want it, and so they refuse it, or they set

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the tariff so high on certain things in certain categories

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that it just makes it not realistic for us to

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sell goods to that country. Now, Americans the consumption of

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cheap products okay, not made in America, which doesn't necessarily

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meither're made any less cheap. It's just that we're not

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making our stuff in a sweatshop. Okay, we're not making

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our stuff where Ho Chi Minh can make it for

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you know, five dollars, whereas we it's going to cost

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us ten times more. Right, And so at the end

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of the day, when you talk about the tariffs, it

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was so disproportionate in what we would charge for tariffs

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versus what they would charge based on the market share.

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I mean, the US market is massive when it comes

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to product, right, but compare that to China.

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Speaker 1: China has a.

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Speaker 2: Lot of people, a lot of people condensed in an area.

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So they don't have the insatiable need to have US

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products and they really don't have the need for their

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certain products for them, so they make them cheap, they

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export them to other country.

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Speaker 1: It helps their economy, right, so we buy them.

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Speaker 2: I just recently purchased a Chinese mini excavator, okay, and

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people are like, Paul, how did you do that? You know,

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I'm like, well, I got it before the tariff went up.

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We'll see if the eBay seller honors that, because he's

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gonna lose money because it's it is increased dramatically that

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the percentages of increase are crazy compared to what that

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that they just got involved in. So we're talking tariffs

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now that immediately went to like for China, one hundred

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and four percent. There's no way that that can be sustained.

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And people are freaking out over it. And I'm telling

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you right now, folks, it had to be done.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you don't like it that it was Trump.

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And you may not like Trump, whether you like him personally,

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you don't like his politics. You just don't like if

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you don't like what he stands, well that's fine. I

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don't care. It doesn't bother me. Whether somebody likes Trump

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or Biden or Obama or whoever, it doesn't bother me.

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Speaker 1: I don't care. Y'all know who I like.

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Speaker 2: But it doesn't matter. The fact of the matter is,

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it doesn't matter who it is. Is we needed this

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right now. And what this does is this tries to

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do what we call an economic reset. First of all,

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it's going you already see now that there's trillions of

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dollars companies who want to build.

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Speaker 1: In the US.

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Speaker 2: That's good for the US. And you should be wanting

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things that are good for the US if you live here.

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If you don't live here, get the hell out. But

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if you're here, you should want things that are good

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for our economy, bringing back jobs, growth, having manufacturers actually

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make stuff here. Now it's going to cost more to

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make it here because we don't pay sweatshops. Okay, we

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have labor laws, we have things that you have to

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do here. We have certain things that we have to

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hold true to under our American values that they don't

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necessarily hold true to in these other countries.

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Speaker 1: And we know this.

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Speaker 2: But the first time that somebody cries about that, we go, well,

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I mean you want to get I mean you want

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to go to work for McDonald's. And now the minimum

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wage they want to make it what seventeen eighteen nineteen

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dollars really to flip a hamburger, So that affects everything else.

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But you're okay with that. But you're you, you don't

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under You're like, but wait a minute, I still want

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to get my cheap stuff from China.

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Speaker 1: When they're over there.

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Speaker 2: You've got a sweat shop making a Nike for a

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buck and a quarter selling to them, selling them over

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here on eBay for three hundred and fifty bucks a

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pair of Jordan's or something. I'm just saying, you can't

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have it both ways. Okay, now I get it. We

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love cheap products, we love to pay less. Hey, and

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I'm no different.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: People ask me, said, Paul, if you're so passionate you

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care about this tariff thing, then why did you buy

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a Chinese and why couldn't you buy American boy, Bobcat

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buy something in America. Well, the chances are that that

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product that's made in America is probably using an engine

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like a.

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Speaker 1: Cabodo that's from Japan.

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Speaker 2: They use parts from other countries and everything, so very little.

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Speaker 1: Is probably one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not saying this across the board, but very

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little today is probably one hundred percent. Nuts to Bolts

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is American. They're going to be using products in it,

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components in it. Uh So it's very little. Kay.

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Speaker 1: So when I buy something that is.

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Speaker 2: Imported and I pay that importer, right, they're making money.

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They're here, they're in the US, they imported it, They're

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going to be making money. You know, if i want

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to buy something straight from China, then I've got to

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pay the taxes. I got to pay the duties, I

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got to pay for it, to get logistics from here

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to there, from the port, all this kind of stuff.

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I got to pay all that, right, So yeah, I'm

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buying it cheaper, but I still have to pay all

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that stuff. So a lot of times when we buy

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products like my excavator, I assume that that that the

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tariffs were already built into but now that was before

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it's done. Gone from from ten percent or twenty percent

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tariff to thirty to forty four percent to now one

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hundred and four or whatever percent is get it, I

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get it, but this is necessary whether you like it

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or not. So does that mean you're gonna hold off

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on buying some import because you're gonna pay more than

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you would have a day ago. Absolutely, you need to

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suck it up. Okay, it is what it is. We're

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trust me. They are not going to leave it like that.

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China can act like they're tough all they want. They've

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been ripping us off for years, intellectual properties, stealing our products,

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designing products that mirror products that are US based. They

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use very cheap labor, They charge taxes on our products

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that we export to them, and we charge taxes on

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stuff that we import from them. But other than that,

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there's other trade agreements that are wrapped up into that

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that are very one sided. And then you have some countries.

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they won't accept certain things. France won't accept certain things

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from the US, right, or they hit tariffs that are

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so high, but yet when we slap a reciprocal tariff

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on them, which a reciprocal tariff means that we're gonna

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tariff you the same as you're tariffing us. That's it,

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and everybody goes ape shit. They literally do they go

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ape shit over it, and they don't understand the concept

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of tariffs. Now, let's talk about this for a second,

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and I'm gonna use Dave Portinoy for an example. Dave

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went on there and says that he lost because of

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the stock market, which is folatile anyway. I don't care

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much for the stock market anyway, although I understand for

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a one k long term.

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Speaker 1: Growth, be in it to win it for the long

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long term.

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Speaker 2: There are a lot of people that are day traders

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and they make They've been making quite a good amount

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of money as a day trader.

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Speaker 1: Dave Portnoy is a.

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Speaker 2: Day trader, Okay, that's what he likes to do. So

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he says he lost seven million. You haven't lost shit

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until you sell it. He's not getting rid of that

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stock because it's on the downturn. He's gonna keep it now.

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He says he's twenty million down. You know what for

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somebody that has a net worth of three hundred million

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dollars or more. Let me explain something and Dave Ramsey.

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Dave Ramsey, who I don't agree with all the time,

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probably can say it better though than me.

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Speaker 1: This is a.

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Speaker 2: Great time for people that have money because now they

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can double down, they get to buy it cheap.

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Speaker 1: They know what's coming back, they know that the economy's

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not going to stay down. Just look at the historical

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nature of the stock market.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I am scared to get into it because again,

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I don't like to gamble that type.

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Speaker 1: I don't even gamble at casinos.

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Speaker 2: I just I went to an Indian casinos a couple

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times with my wife, But I don't, dude, I don't

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gamble with what I got to eat with and some

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people love it. I can never get addicted to gamble.

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I just can't do it. Now. I have a four

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to oh one k, but that's long term. I'm letting

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it ride.

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Speaker 1: So the people that.

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Speaker 2: Are freaking out about the stock market and saying.

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Speaker 1: Oh don't you like watching your net worth? Go away?

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Shut the hell up your network. You're not selling it.

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Just leave it there.

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Speaker 2: And in fact, for me, I have a four to

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one K through unco Wired Corporation. The money I contribute

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is not changing. They're going to be able to get

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more stock if the value drops, They're gonna get more

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shares to me, so that when it goes up, I'm

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gonna win on the back end. Long term people don't

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understand it, and so at the end of the day,

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you have to be if you're in the stock market.

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Speaker 1: Again, I'm not talking to day.

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Speaker 2: Traders who want to play around and go low buy

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buy low, sell high. That's what you want to do,

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Then you can cry and moan over that volatility all

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you want. Most people that are in it for the

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long haul are in stocks for twenty thirty years.

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Speaker 1: I am not a stock investor.

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Speaker 2: I'm a big believer putting my money in a simple

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savings account that gives me four to five percent interest

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and let her ride, okay, because I'm gonna pay taxes

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on that interest anyway, So I just put it in

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there and let it ride, okay.

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Speaker 1: I keep it under the FDIC.

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Speaker 2: I get multiple accounts so that money is kept under

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the FDIC, which is for an individual's two hundred and

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fifty thousand. For a couple or jointly, it's five hundred thousand.

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You can have as many banks as you want, but

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you can only have limited ones in one bank. Okay,

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give different categories. So for example, my wife could have

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a limit of two fifty. I could have a limit

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of two fifty and jointly, we could have a limit

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of five hundred So that basically is a million dollars

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that's protected by FDIC. Okay, the moment you go over that,

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then you run the risk. Doesn't mean you won't get

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your money, but that's only after liquidation. So and again,

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by the way, I'm not attacked advisor, So don't take

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any of my tax If I had to listen to

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my advice years ago, i'd be a be a multi

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billionaire right now. If I had a bought bitcoin when

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everybody said by bitcoin, I said, nope, I don't trust it.

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I still don't trust it today, but there's people that

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have made a fortune on it. So there is many

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things like I should have bought uh, Newsmax just weeks ago.

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I knew Newsmax over the next four years is going

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to be riding a conservative high that it's going to be,

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and you look at the numbers.

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Speaker 1: You can't you really can't lose. But I'm just I

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just don't like stock market. Now.

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Speaker 2: When it comes to four one k, I just let

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her ride. And when the stock market is down, I'm giddy.

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Speaker 1: Really I am, dude. I'm not ready to retire. I'm

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like I'm not messing with my four one K.

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Speaker 2: Now, if you're right at the CUSPP of retirement or

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you're in it and you're using your full one k,

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then that sucks.

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Speaker 1: But it is what it is. We have to and

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that's not Trump. You know.

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Speaker 2: Folks will say, well, it's because of these tariffs. No,

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this is just the the it was. It was they

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kept kicking the can down the road year after year

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after year. We were taking advantage of other countries with

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not taking our products, or not importing our products or

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very little. We as a US consume stuff and we

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like it cheap. So we had no problem going to

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the dollar trees and the and the Amazons and all

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that who live off of these imports. Everything you pretty

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much buy on these things are probably made overseas. So

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at the end of the day, the tariffs are designed

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to say, you know what, it's at tax, it's an attack.

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So you're gonna charge me this much for my for

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products that we sell to you, and we're gonna charge

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you this much for products that you try to import

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to sell to US.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Now, people are quick to say, well Elon mus doesn't

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like he wants a zero tariff, zero zero again, he

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disagrees with Trump. You're not listening, You're not hearing it.

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Elon Musk is against tariffs because Elon Musk believes that

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we should have no tariffs, free exchange amongst countries.

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Speaker 1: Right, I am going.

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Speaker 2: To sell to you and you sell to me. Screw

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the tariffs, you know what, and just have free trade.

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That's what Elon believes in, Okay, and that's great in

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a utopian world. But the reality is none of the

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other countries are gonna do that, and so what do

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we have to do as a country. We have to

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rip off the band aid and say, you know what,

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I don't have a choice. We're going to raise the

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tariffs to make you come to the table. Do you

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and I believe for any amount and you're gonna say, well,

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I believe it. Look, do you you believe that for

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any amount of time that China? And I'm picking on China,

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But China can sustain one hundred and four percent tariff

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and still send products to the US.

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Speaker 1: No, they can't. Can we sustain not getting products from China?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: I can do without my mini excavator. Shit, I don't

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you know? You know what I'm saying?

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Speaker 2: We have enough stuff here. Their economy can't. Our economy can.

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And so that's the leverage. And if they want to

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come to the table, this thing will be over next week.

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It could be over to next shit. It could be

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over right now. It's what is it, uh, one, two

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o'clock in the morning, three o'clock in the morning, four o'clock.

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But whatever it is in China, this shit could end

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right away. They act like they're not going to end,

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but that's just publicly tough talk.

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Speaker 1: At the end of the.

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Speaker 2: Day, it's when it starts hurting them, they're going to

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come to the table. That's why you saw other countries,

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Japan and all them quickly wanting to talk to Trump. Look,

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it didn't matter whether it was Trump or Biden or Kamala,

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it wouldn't matter. This is the right thing to do

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right now for history. It's time to get rid of

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that DEI shit. It's time to get rid of all

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that wokeness. It's time to put America first in all cases.

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I see these politicians people that are protesting in saying

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talking about illegal immigrants, Dude, if you're here illegally, they say, well,

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they didn't commit a crime. I know I'm deviating from

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the topic. But they say he didn't commit they don't

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commit a crime. The moment that they walked into this

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country illegally improperly, they committed a crime. It doesn't matter

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whether they're jaywalking or committed murder. They committed a crime

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the moment that they came in here illegally.

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Speaker 1: That's it. They should go.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't mean I don't want people to come into

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this melting pot of America.

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Speaker 1: I do. I do.

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Speaker 2: I love all races, all different creeds and the melting pot.

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And some of my best friends are black folks, African

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American folks, and Indians.

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Speaker 1: And I've got some great Jewish friends. I got some

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great Muslim friends. Dude, I don't hate.

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Speaker 2: Anybody, Okay, but at the end of the day, if

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you are here illegally, you need to come in legally,

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get your ass out, come back the right way. That's

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all I'm saying. Then we'll welcome you in here with

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open arms. So I think people are just not seeing

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what Trump is doing.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: You don't have to like him, and I'm sure I'll

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lose listeners because you don't like him.

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Speaker 1: And that's fine.

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Speaker 2: If you can't listen to the bitter truth. Then that's

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on you. I can't help it, and I'm not here

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to convince you otherwise. I don't care what your belief is.

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I don't care where you stand in your spectrum life.

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I don't really care. I'm answering the question that the

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gentleman sent me, so rounding it back to tariffs and

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ending this podcast on tariffs. It's necessary, It is necessary

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right now to play that hard card and make the

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countries come to the table because at the end of

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the day, it's going to mean back to prosperity new

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building in America. Look at already, it's five trillion dollars

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of commitment from companies that want to build here in

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the US.

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Speaker 1: People say, we don't have the land for it. Bullshit.

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Speaker 2: We got plenty of land. We got plenty of land

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to make this happen. Okay, don't don't opine about shit

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that you don't know anything about on social media. There's

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plenty of land, plenty of opportunity. There's plenty of old

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buildings that can be revamped to rebuild, torn down, build up.

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We can have another rebirth of America being this amazing

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place to be. And it all he is amazing. We're

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very blessed to be here. Okay, you've seen pictures of

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other countries. I could not live in China. I couldn't

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do it. I just I couldn't do it. But at

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the end of the day, we're very blessed. And so

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for everybody that says, oh wooe, he's me it's so

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bad here they hate, then get the hell out because

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you're living in the best country in the world to

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live in. If you don't believe that, then go where

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you think it is better. But I don't see you going.

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You ain't going nowhere because you just are talk talk talk,

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you know, action, just talk, right, I ain't going anywhere.

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I love America. I love what's going on. Is it

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suck that I might not get my excavator because the buyer,

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the seller may back out because he's getting to hit

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with one hundred and four percent tariffs even after I've

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already paid him. Yeah, am I going to trash you

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on eBay and cause his account to get banned if

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that happens? Aslutely, I am welcome to America, okay, But

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at the end of because I want them to honor it.

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I got in before the tariff. I'm just saying, it's

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just like me selling my house. If I sell my

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house for and I agree to a contract of four

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hundred thousand, and all of a sudden the value of

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it goes to five hundred and fifty thousand over the

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next thirty days to forty five days of closing. Am

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I gonna get that extra money? Hell no, I'm gonna

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get what we agreed.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna get the appreciation. I'm not gonna get the appreciation.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: That sucks, but it is what it is, right, same concept,

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same concept. All right, hopefully I answered that question for you.

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I am all for the tariffs. Does that mean that

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the little cheap import stuff that I like to import

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and do that stuff for my lasers and all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: Does that mean I'm gonna pay more? Yeah? If I

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want it, I will, But I don't need it.

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Speaker 2: Nobody needs, you get me, nobody needs to.

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Speaker 1: Import stuff from China. You don't need you want it,

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you don't need it. Okay, So at the end of

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the day, just wait, this will be worked out. Trust me.

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Speaker 2: I was right about TikTok, wasn't I I told you

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all it ain't going nowhere, and everybody got crazy and

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I was like, kid.

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Speaker 1: Ain't going nowhere.

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Speaker 2: It's worth too much money to go anywhere. It ain't

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going anywhere. Listen to me, just ride this out. I

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don't care if you hate Trump, I don't care if

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you hate Biden. I don't care any politics. Tariffs are

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right right now in this world where we're at, the

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ripping down statues, the DEEI hiring people that aren't qualified

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for the job. Just to me to quote, all of

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that shit needs to end. It needed to end it.

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Finally took somebody with balls.

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Speaker 1: To end it.

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Speaker 2: And he's not running for another term, so he doesn't care.

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You people don't get it. He don't care, but he

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does love America. This tariff is for a America, not

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stealing money, hiding money, doing that like the Biden regime.

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This is about America. And if you don't understand how

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tariffs go, then you don't get it. Go read and

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see how we were taking advantage of by many other countries.

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See or other countries wouldn't even take our products that

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we make. Also, see why companies were leaving America to

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go to other countries because they can make shit cheaper

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and then exploit youth labor. Okay, in unfair work practices.

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We don't do that in the US. We want to

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bring that back here. You should want that as an

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American and if you don't, something's wrong with you. Until

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next time, folks, stay safe, God bless and check us

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on the next episode of Let's Ask Paul the podcast Peace.

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