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<v Speaker 1>And spring football rolling along up on the hill about

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<v Speaker 1>halfway down. A couple more practices this week than we

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<v Speaker 1>got four next week in the Forever twenty two game.

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<v Speaker 1>The defensive coordinator of the Utes and the head coach

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<v Speaker 1>in waiting and my good friend for a number of years,

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<v Speaker 1>Morgan Scalley on a beautiful Thursday.

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<v Speaker 2>Morgan, Happy Thursday. How are you buddy?

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<v Speaker 3>Doing well? Brother? Doing well? It's springball. The weather's great.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm hoping it stays that way for the next six

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<v Speaker 3>to seven practices that we have left. But fired up

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<v Speaker 3>for this new crew, coming in love.

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<v Speaker 1>It, love it all right, Let's start with the most

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<v Speaker 1>important thing. Who is your pick to win the Masters?

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<v Speaker 1>And who is your dark horse?

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<v Speaker 3>Man? The pick to win the Masters would probably be Chefler.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know that you can go against him, and

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<v Speaker 3>then man dark horse, the way that things are going, Man,

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<v Speaker 3>give me more cowa, Okay, I haven't done anything in

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<v Speaker 3>a minute.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, No, I like it. I like it.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that you have an affinity for golf, but

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<v Speaker 1>as we were discussing off air, you'll have plenty of

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<v Speaker 1>time to golf when you're not doing this job, and

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<v Speaker 1>certainly when you're not doing your next job, so you'll

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<v Speaker 1>get there.

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<v Speaker 2>But in the meantime, you've got a lot going on.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's just get a look.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, spring football obviously, you know doing this as

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<v Speaker 1>long as I have. And you with your eighteenth year,

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<v Speaker 1>with the program, opportunity to get the new group on campus,

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to start learning new personalities, opportunities to start helping

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<v Speaker 1>these young men understand what you ask for them. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's go to the start of springball the boxes that

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<v Speaker 1>you want checked, and let's fast forward to where we're

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<v Speaker 1>at today and how how's the progress going.

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<v Speaker 3>Morgan, Well, springball is ever since the mid year signing

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<v Speaker 3>date was instituted, you see more and more of new

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<v Speaker 3>faces that in the transfer portal coming in springball. Used

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<v Speaker 3>to be faull camp that you wait to see what

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<v Speaker 3>you really had. Now it's really spring football. Guys are

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<v Speaker 3>coming in midyear, your transfer portal, guys, your high school

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<v Speaker 3>seniors that are graduating early. So really it's the new

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<v Speaker 3>faces that you're trying to get adjusted to the culture,

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<v Speaker 3>to the scheme. The things that we wanted to work

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<v Speaker 3>on this spring that we didn't feel we did a

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<v Speaker 3>good enough job of. Is stopping the run and creating takeaways.

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<v Speaker 3>I say midway through, we're seeing what we want to see.

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<v Speaker 3>It can always be better. But you know, in the

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<v Speaker 3>drill work that we've been doing, in the crossover drills

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<v Speaker 3>that we've been doing, strong emphasis on stout run defense,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, getting those defensive tackles up to par and

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<v Speaker 3>then creating takeaways, which I believe we've done a pretty

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<v Speaker 3>good job of that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I do want to follow up with how the

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<v Speaker 1>calendar has changed and how your job has changed as

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<v Speaker 1>a result of where we find ourselves in the world

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<v Speaker 1>of college football. I look the topic of the transfer portal,

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<v Speaker 1>it gets a little tired because it's been around long

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<v Speaker 1>enough by now Morgan to just have it be a reality.

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<v Speaker 1>And I call it free agency. And then there's the

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<v Speaker 1>nil portion, the collective and all of these things. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we had coach went on the show just

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of weeks ago. It regardless of how many

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<v Speaker 1>support staff you guys bring in, your individual individual jobs

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<v Speaker 1>are going to change and evolve. How has your job

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<v Speaker 1>been affected by the changes in college football?

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<v Speaker 3>I would say the biggest difference is I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 3>it's it is about relationships, but people want to know

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<v Speaker 3>the financial part of coming to your program, what you're

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<v Speaker 3>going to be able to do it for them financially

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<v Speaker 3>makes it harder to main attain sustained culture. But you know,

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<v Speaker 3>that just makes it more of a priority for us

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<v Speaker 3>to in recruiting, recruiting the guys that fit our culture. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>we are going to need money, and our donors have

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<v Speaker 3>done a great job and we'll continue to do a

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<v Speaker 3>great job. But ultimately, you know, recruiting used to be

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<v Speaker 3>all about the relationships, and now there's that financial piece

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<v Speaker 3>that no matter how much the recruit may love you,

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<v Speaker 3>love what you do, love love your scheme. Sometimes if

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<v Speaker 3>it's just about the money, you're not going to end

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<v Speaker 3>up getting that kid, no matter how great the relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>Is so a little bit different than in that aspect.

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<v Speaker 3>But we've still got kids that love the culture, love

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<v Speaker 3>that we what we do. We're financially being able to

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<v Speaker 3>take care of them. You know, it's the front office

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<v Speaker 3>really now that has to take care of all those

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<v Speaker 3>other things. You know, we're we're as coaches talking about,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, how do we win games? And now you're

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<v Speaker 3>hiring people and you're putting people in positions to deal

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<v Speaker 3>with the professional side of things.

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<v Speaker 1>Sharif Shaw last year some interesting comments he gave to

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<v Speaker 1>the Solid Tribune, And you know, I don't recall the

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<v Speaker 1>exact figure, but I believe Shreif's said, as you're calling recruits,

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't offer something like fifty k right out

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<v Speaker 1>of the gates, you can't even get them on campus.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, is that where we're at? Are there a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of because you and Sharif and the staff. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>once upon a time maybe the recruiting was a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more regional, but now you guys have a footprint

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<v Speaker 1>that spreads across the country. Are there really situations more

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<v Speaker 1>than that you run into with a recruit out of

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<v Speaker 1>state where you want to get them on the phone

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<v Speaker 1>or get them on campus, and if you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>something to offer right up front, you can't even talk

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<v Speaker 1>to them.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that a real thing?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's economics, it's supply and demand. That's who you're

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<v Speaker 3>talking to. Am I talking to a transfer portal deligneman

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<v Speaker 3>that's looking for just a spot to be someone that's

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<v Speaker 3>trying to prove themselves. There was a lower division school

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<v Speaker 3>that thinks that they're better than that. A starter from

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<v Speaker 3>another program that wants to be a part of a

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<v Speaker 3>winning program. Everything is dependent upon their situation and supply

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<v Speaker 3>and demand. And you know, is this a high school

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<v Speaker 3>kid that you know, maybe isn't a highly recruited kid

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<v Speaker 3>versus your five star kid that's got every offer out there.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything really is is situational, and you've got to be

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<v Speaker 3>really good at understanding that. So this game, this, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>college football has changed quite a bit over the past

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<v Speaker 3>few years.

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<v Speaker 1>It has, and you know it will continue to change

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<v Speaker 1>and evolve. And we're hoping to get more information over

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<v Speaker 1>the next couple of weeks, and we're actually getting some

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<v Speaker 1>more information Morgan about the details of the House versus

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<v Speaker 1>the NCAA settlements. And then come June, you guys, as

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<v Speaker 1>a athletic department at the you and I use the

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<v Speaker 1>football program, we'll have twenty million dollars to allocate. Are

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<v Speaker 1>any of these things on your radar? I mean, because

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<v Speaker 1>for me covering the sport and covering the U, I

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<v Speaker 1>think the House Versus NCAA segment will actually bring some

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<v Speaker 1>clarity so people like you and people like coach Wit

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<v Speaker 1>and even people like Mark Harland don't have to guess

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<v Speaker 1>how to do this anymore. Are these benchmarks that we

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<v Speaker 1>look at people that cover the sport, something that you're

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<v Speaker 1>dialed into and maybe looking forward to to get more

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<v Speaker 1>clarity and more guidelines in place.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think you have to be dialed into it.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's our profession, it's what we do. And

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, ultimately people want guard rails, they want rules,

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<v Speaker 3>they want a level playing field, and right now that's

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<v Speaker 3>not necessarily the case. So hopefully here in the in

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<v Speaker 3>the next a few weeks months, we're going to get

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<v Speaker 3>a lot more clarity and hopefully a level playing field.

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<v Speaker 3>And you're always going to have schools that try and uh,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, walk that line, and there were there was

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<v Speaker 3>cheating before them. Still there's still cheating going on now

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<v Speaker 3>and we'll continue to go on. But hopefully what this

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<v Speaker 3>does is it's it levels the playing field.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's move off of this and talk about some

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<v Speaker 1>actual football. And you know, last year, Morgan, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody both locally and nationally picked you guys to if

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<v Speaker 1>not win the Big Twelve. You were one of the

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<v Speaker 1>top two or three picks. You were the Vegas favorite,

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<v Speaker 1>you were the media preseason favorite. And I would imagine

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<v Speaker 1>no matter what you tried to do with your group.

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<v Speaker 1>You cannot insulate them from information because we all have

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<v Speaker 1>these computers in our hands that give us all the

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<v Speaker 1>info twenty four to seven. So there's no way to

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<v Speaker 1>protect your team from the knowledge that we all thought

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<v Speaker 1>you guys were gonna win the thing. I wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>you feel like that extra added pressure or start the year.

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<v Speaker 2>Had anything to do with the way that everything went.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, I always bring up last year with the

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<v Speaker 1>context of a tremendous amount of injuries and health issues.

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<v Speaker 1>But the pressure that you guys faced from the outside

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<v Speaker 1>looking in, where we all thought you were gonna win

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<v Speaker 1>the Big twelve and go to the CFP, how did

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<v Speaker 1>that affect the way last year went.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think it affected it all that that much.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we've got good kids that understand and it's

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<v Speaker 3>all about what you do on the field an end.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you can point to a number of different things.

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<v Speaker 3>Bottom line is turn on the film and what did

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<v Speaker 3>the behavior say. You know, defense from a defensive perspective,

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<v Speaker 3>we missed too many tackles, we didn't create enough takeaways.

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<v Speaker 3>We did some really good things on defense, but there's

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<v Speaker 3>some things that we that we did that contributed maybe

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<v Speaker 3>that five and seven season, right, and so what what

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<v Speaker 3>did the film say? How can we improve? How can

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<v Speaker 3>we get better on the offensive side? Obviously that's what

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<v Speaker 3>they're working on and what coach Witt has worked to

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<v Speaker 3>fix on the offensive side of the ball. Preseason talk,

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<v Speaker 3>that's I mean, it is, it's what makes the game great.

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<v Speaker 3>You get fans and they want to know about projections

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<v Speaker 3>and where is everyone ranked. At the end of the day.

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<v Speaker 3>No one ever puts a preseason ranking on their resume.

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<v Speaker 3>It didn't you know, these preseason awards, no one does.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't see that on anyone's resume. It's what you

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<v Speaker 3>do during the season. It's the behavior that matters. And

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<v Speaker 3>you know, unfortunately we had some things that you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we didn't do well enough. And you know, staying healthy

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<v Speaker 3>is one of them too, that that in order to

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<v Speaker 3>have a great season, you got to stay healthy. That's

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<v Speaker 3>that's just a part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, for sure, and that's always something that we

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<v Speaker 1>bring up in context in the past couple of years.

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<v Speaker 1>But I asked you that to dovetail into this, which

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<v Speaker 1>is this year, you guys will not be picked to

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<v Speaker 1>when the Big twelve this year, chances are you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be picked like mid conference and most of the

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<v Speaker 1>way too early preseason polls. I have no idea how

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<v Speaker 1>they know how to do this because it is April

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<v Speaker 1>and you don't play until August. But is having that

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<v Speaker 1>pressure removed from the equation something that you think could

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<v Speaker 1>benefit you guys year two in the Big twelve?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I don't know. I hope so my our main focus,

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<v Speaker 3>And honestly, I don't mean to dismiss that because you

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<v Speaker 3>know kids will look at that, what are we picked

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<v Speaker 3>to do? And you can use that as motivation that

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<v Speaker 3>at times people don't believe in you, But when the

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<v Speaker 3>ball's kicked off, it's all about are you playing the

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<v Speaker 3>way we need you to play? Are you playing with

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<v Speaker 3>great fundamentals and technique or you know, it's no amount

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<v Speaker 3>of anger, no amount of of preseason hype, whatever it

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<v Speaker 3>is is going to have a factor on you. Peddling

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<v Speaker 3>the right way, breaking and driving the right way. That's

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<v Speaker 3>that's what we do in practice, that's what we train for.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's behavior that wins championships. It's teams that win championships,

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<v Speaker 3>not talk.

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<v Speaker 2>For sure, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Ultimately, when it comes to spring football, you know we

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<v Speaker 1>replay all the sound. It's nice to say with Kyle,

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<v Speaker 1>it's nice to say with you. But occasionally coach will

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<v Speaker 1>say something that kind of catches my attention in a

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<v Speaker 1>would go and Morgan. At least three, if not more, times,

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard Kyle say there's more positive energy in the

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<v Speaker 1>building during spring than has been in a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not trying to run anybody down. And the

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<v Speaker 1>past is the past, and you guys have moved on.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, you know Kyle, he doesn't pull any punches.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gonna let you know how it is. So when

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<v Speaker 1>he says publicly multiple times, there's more positive energy in

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<v Speaker 1>our building right now than there has been a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>how does that land with you?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you what do you think he's referring to.

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<v Speaker 3>He's probably referring to market ottawaya yelling and screaming and

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<v Speaker 3>singing all day that that enough in the office is

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<v Speaker 3>enough energy? No, I mean, to be perfectly honest with you,

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<v Speaker 3>This offensive staff they do, they've they've got a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of energy the way they coach, the way they teach,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, Jason's done a great job really bringing

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<v Speaker 3>everyone together and helping them understand what he's looking for

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<v Speaker 3>and establishing their culture on that side of the ball.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's been it's been fun, you know, not only

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<v Speaker 3>to obviously, if you ever come to practice, you're always

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<v Speaker 3>going to hear the defensive coaches yelling and screaming, and

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<v Speaker 3>now you hear it from all angles and it's you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's very lively and guys are having fun. It's just

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<v Speaker 3>it's a fun environment to be a part of. And

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<v Speaker 3>that's what Coach WIT's talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>I know this is not your silo, but we've had

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<v Speaker 1>Jason and Coach went on. Jason back and Coach went on,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've asked them both just because of what we've

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<v Speaker 1>been through over the past few years, is Devin the guy?

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<v Speaker 2>Is Devin the starting quarterback?

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<v Speaker 1>And they both said yes, if we went and went

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<v Speaker 1>to play tomorrow, he's the guy. And Cameron Rising should

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<v Speaker 1>always be remembered as an absolute legend for what he

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<v Speaker 1>did for you guys at quarterback. But what sort of

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<v Speaker 1>dynamic or relief, if at all, does it bring that

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<v Speaker 1>you guys know who the quarterback is going into the season,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's no ambiguity about how that's going to play out.

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<v Speaker 3>Webally just gives him him confidence. I mean he should

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<v Speaker 3>have confidence. It's his offense. You know, it's a scheme

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<v Speaker 3>that he's been comfortable with the past couple of seasons.

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<v Speaker 3>So Devin is a guy that's very competitive. He's got

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<v Speaker 3>he's got great character, very football savvy, high football intelligence,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, I just love going against and Cam

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<v Speaker 3>was the same way, going up against quarterbacks that are

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<v Speaker 3>just competitive. They hate to lose. They're going to get

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<v Speaker 3>their guys right where they need to be. And and

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<v Speaker 3>Devin is that guy and excited for his continued development

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<v Speaker 3>and what he has in store for the season.

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<v Speaker 1>You're losing some very talented defensive lineman as you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, Keno Town of Austa is now playing for

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<v Speaker 1>Brigham Young and Junior Tifuna is trying his hand.

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<v Speaker 2>To pro football. Those are big losses. Morgan, what's the

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<v Speaker 2>contingency plan how you guys looking up front?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I am elited I should say about what we

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<v Speaker 3>to come as a surprise to a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 3>but the guys that we brought in, the things that

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<v Speaker 3>weight and he's now weighing what we need him to weigh.

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<v Speaker 3>He's quick, he's athletic, he's long levered. Dallas Bacala, he

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<v Speaker 3>is a freshman who was so productive and now you

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit more confidence and a little bit more

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<v Speaker 3>power and strength. He looks fantastic. H You look at

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<v Speaker 3>Aliki vi Ma. He's a returning one of our returning

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<v Speaker 3>starters that played started last year for us during times

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<v Speaker 3>and you know he's taken on a leadership role and

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<v Speaker 3>is doing great with it. Carson Kfusi is a is

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<v Speaker 3>a fresh shman that we absolutely love. He's probably the

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<v Speaker 3>pleasant surprise of spring football right now. Is this incoming

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<v Speaker 3>freshman from Skyline High School is just tearing it up.

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<v Speaker 3>the two incoming freshmen. This is going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>All right, buddy, before I say you lose, I've always

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<v Speaker 1>described you as a combination of a guy that really

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<v Speaker 1>loves to have a good time, but it's also deathly

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<v Speaker 1>serious about anything he's involved in. And that goes back

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<v Speaker 1>to when you were like eighteen years old. Is a

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<v Speaker 1>running back in Highland High School. You know, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a goof when you want to have a good time,

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<v Speaker 1>but when it comes to the task at hand, a

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<v Speaker 1>very serious, serious person. But I've noticed Morgan from outside

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<v Speaker 1>looking in whenever I hear you interviewed, or whenever I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of have a chance to be around you a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, this kind of matation period where emotion has

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<v Speaker 1>been replaced by pragmatism. And I don't know if that's

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<v Speaker 1>a result of a lot of things that you've been through.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys are coming off a hard season. Life is hard.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not linear, it's not a straight line. But before

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<v Speaker 1>I set you lose. For our ute football fan listeners,

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<v Speaker 1>how have you grown and changed in the eighteen years

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<v Speaker 3>Oh man, that could be a podcast in of itself.

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<v Speaker 2>I want all of it. You go for a while,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>More from the losses than you do from the wins.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's not just on the you know, the win

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<v Speaker 3>loss record. That's just adversity that you face throughout your time,

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<v Speaker 3>throughout your life, trials that you have, stuff that you

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<v Speaker 3>go through with your players. And I think what I've

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<v Speaker 3>learned most is just empathy. People go through tough times,

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<v Speaker 3>hard things, and you can be resilient and you can

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<v Speaker 3>come back stronger, and you can be more understanding of

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<v Speaker 3>other people struggles and be there for others, lift others,

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<v Speaker 3>and instead of why me, you know, why did this

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<v Speaker 3>happen to me? Why did this happen for me? And

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<v Speaker 3>what am I supposed to learn from it? And how

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<v Speaker 3>can I be better? So I would just say that

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<v Speaker 3>definitely have learned a ton from adversity and tough times

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<v Speaker 3>that I faced and learned from really good people, really

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<v Speaker 3>good mentors, and have had an unbelievable staff to love

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<v Speaker 3>and support me as I love and support them.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, my friend, Well, I always appreciate the time.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pulling for you over here in MySpace. If I

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<v Speaker 1>can ever do anything, please let me know and enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of spring ball.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Spencer a stud Take care, brother.

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<v Speaker 1>Morgan, scally defensive coordinator University of Utah head coach in

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<v Speaker 1>waiting a couple of more practices this week. We've got

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<v Speaker 1>four next week, and it's time for the Forever twenty

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<v Speaker 1>two game on Saturday, April nineteenth. Go to you Tell

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