Speaker 1: Cool. Hey, what's going on everybody? Welcome back to calling
Speaker 1: Oh Bings. I'm your host DJ here on a is
Speaker 1: it Thursday night? One more? One more workday for those
Speaker 1: of y'all working five day weeks like me of now
Speaker 1: I'm working five day weeks. Anyway, It's good to see everybody.
Speaker 1: It's been a while, uh since we've done a and
Speaker 1: since we've done a UFO Bigfoot show.
Speaker 2: We've done a couple of the true crime episode.
Speaker 1: As you see the cab TCU logo that our boy
Speaker 1: Money Nathan made. I want to say hello to everybody
Speaker 1: in the chat. Let me see Diane Fowler in the building.
Speaker 1: Fan of Chris Reinhardt, as are we. He is having
Speaker 1: tech problems right now. Deb is having tech problems. Courtney
Speaker 1: is on a space somewhere, so I'm hoping that they're
Speaker 1: all going to come in. Welcome back, Mick, It's good
Speaker 1: to see you brother from England, My boy Mick.
Speaker 2: Who else is here?
Speaker 1: Julie?
Speaker 2: And Hi Jules?
Speaker 1: How are you? I am well? Charlotte, Jay in the BLDG.
Speaker 1: And let's see if the Cabby's and Chris are able
Speaker 1: to get in. I have sent Chris the link. He's
Speaker 1: having tech problems on his computer, getting the computer to
Speaker 1: allow his microphone and his his.
Speaker 2: Camera and his mic So for now, all you got
Speaker 2: is me.
Speaker 1: So while we're here together party people, if you have
Speaker 1: questions about anything, Hey, I'm glad.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you're well.
Speaker 1: Me too, a little tired, stressed out, throats, a little sore,
Speaker 1: but you know what, we gonna get through it. We
Speaker 1: gonna get through the night. So if anybody asks questions
Speaker 1: or anything that they want us, I know zero one
Speaker 1: hundred in the morning in England.
Speaker 2: And Mick is still with us, which is one of
Speaker 2: the reasons we just love Mick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if there are any questions that anybody wants to
Speaker 1: talk about or anything that they want to discuss. It
Speaker 1: could be UFOs, it could be Bigfoot, it could be paranormal,
Speaker 1: it could be yep, and deb is having computer issues
Speaker 1: as well, God willing, she'll be here. Or it could
Speaker 1: be true our true crime stuff that we're doing. And
Speaker 1: just to give you an update on that, Julie worked
Speaker 1: on that with us. Courtney did some significant work on
Speaker 1: our true crime investigation in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2: As I said, since.
Speaker 1: I've just moved to Colorado, it's probably gonna take us
Speaker 1: a month or more to put that together. And that
Speaker 1: means a month from when I'm kind of like stable
Speaker 1: and I can sit down at night and start producing.
Speaker 1: Because CAB has never produced a podcast as such. CAB
Speaker 1: has done live shows, you know, are a lot of
Speaker 1: what we did was all involved in the performance and
Speaker 1: so forth, as you guys know. But you know, to
Speaker 1: do true crime, you know, we need to we need
Speaker 1: to dial it up, man, you know, we need to
Speaker 1: dial things up a notch and produce something that you
Speaker 1: guys are going to like and appreciate.
Speaker 2: Let me pull this down, get a little bit more
Speaker 2: light in here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and other than that, got a little bit of
Speaker 1: a little bit of ghosting going on there. Let me
Speaker 1: see if I can there go. Maybe that'll work. It
Speaker 1: work it work, it work it Okay. So that's what's
Speaker 1: going on with that. We've been covering the Karen retrial
Speaker 1: in Massa. By the way, Julie, how does my mic sound?
Speaker 1: Does my mic sound good?
Speaker 2: Mike sound? Okay?
Speaker 1: Mick?
Speaker 2: Anybody I know Mick is concerned with saying hi to Debs.
Speaker 2: I don't blame you.
Speaker 1: Debs is lovely, So let me know if the mic
Speaker 1: sounds good. Um, let's see make sure the music isn't
Speaker 1: too loud. Okay, I got thumbs up from the Jewel
Speaker 1: of Indiana. So yeah, we've been covering the Karen retrial
Speaker 1: in Massachusetts. It has been very, very compelling. Julie was
Speaker 1: in the chat what do we have in the chat?
Speaker 1: Jewels about five thousand people at one point, BF Bud
Speaker 1: here to listen to the guests tonight. All right, all right,
Speaker 1: bigfoot Bud. Hopefully Chris is going to join us. He
Speaker 1: is having technical issues, so that's where we're waiting on.
Speaker 1: But if you have thoughts, hypothesis, anything that. Oh and
Speaker 1: there's Debs, hey, Debs.
Speaker 3: Well that was to do all kinds of upheat today.
Speaker 1: Oh boo hoo? Ow dare your computer update a bunch
Speaker 1: of over four hundred I'm not sure what. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: with combined with Mike, we had somewhere in the forty
Speaker 1: five hundred range. But with Mike streaming from his we
Speaker 1: were over five thousand viewers live viewers at one point
Speaker 1: on that Karen Reid one. It was pretty dope.
Speaker 2: But anyway, we're.
Speaker 1: Not here to talk about TCU tonight unless somebody wants
Speaker 1: to talk about TCU, we're here to talk about big
Speaker 1: Foot bf Bud. Bigfoot Bud has just mentioned that he
Speaker 1: wanted to he's here for Yeah, No, it really was, Julie.
Speaker 1: It's definitely you got to add another zero onto your
Speaker 1: four hundred. I saw it go over because I can
Speaker 1: watch it live on the screen. I can see how
Speaker 1: many people we've got, and we were over five thousand,
Speaker 1: but we were hovering between forty five and forty nine
Speaker 1: hundred from most of that that episode, so it was
Speaker 1: it was pretty good.
Speaker 2: Anyway.
Speaker 1: So relative to Bigfoot, Chriss Chris Reinhardt from Connecticut. He
Speaker 1: goes all over the country to research. We've had several
Speaker 1: very compelling phone conversations whereby his sort of view of
Speaker 1: Bigfoot has really evolved. Deb and he said to me today,
Speaker 1: you know what he said. He's like, we're gonna in
Speaker 1: terms of the really strange elements of Bigfoot, like the
Speaker 1: real wooish stuff that's been going on. He's like, our
Speaker 1: Courtney and Deb's cool with that. I said, are they
Speaker 1: cool with it? Huh? Go ahead, Debs, I'm sorry, what'd
Speaker 1: you say?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: I can't hear that.
Speaker 3: I was actually still having some technical I'm still having
Speaker 3: technical issues. I think my computers still trying to do stuff. Okay,
Speaker 3: that hopefully it'll be okay and calm down.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hopefully it'll be good to go. But as I
Speaker 1: was telling the crew here basically they were, you know, uh,
Speaker 1: Chris was wondering, are you here for all this? You know,
Speaker 1: are you here for it? You know, in terms of
Speaker 1: all the sort of wooish.
Speaker 2: Kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, man, Debs and and uh
Speaker 1: and Courtney are here for it. Man, They're here to
Speaker 1: right to dig into all the paranormal aspects and wu
Speaker 1: aspects of Bigfoot. Now's when you talk, oh, maybe she's
Speaker 1: having issues again.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, this is gonna be a night. My throat
Speaker 2: is not right. Julie says, I'm here for it.
Speaker 1: No, you are too.
Speaker 2: Julie's like, I'm here for it too. You know. There
Speaker 2: really is just, you.
Speaker 1: Know, so many inexplicable things that are that are going on,
Speaker 1: and so I can, you know, show some Let me
Speaker 1: see if I can get on screen some of the
Speaker 1: things that Chris shared with me to show you all.
Speaker 1: Let me see. Let's start with this, Okay, So we're
Speaker 1: gonna get this to come up and we'll share screen.
Speaker 1: See what we got here? Put this down? There go.
Speaker 2: Present man sharing screen on stream yard is.
Speaker 1: Always just crazy man. All right here, coast, let's try this. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, let me know if you guys can see that.
Speaker 1: Are you just seeing that in the corner of your screen?
Speaker 1: How are you viewing that right now? Let's Steve cof.
Speaker 3: I'm not seeing anything.
Speaker 1: You're not seeing anything. You don't hear anything. Okay, let's
Speaker 1: try this.
Speaker 3: I hear music, okay, I can't make it back there
Speaker 3: you go. Something's happening now.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, all right, look at that track, man,
Speaker 1: look at look at that man? Hey, court welcome Courtney, Marcusani, Hey,
Speaker 1: court Hey, would you like to see some tracks, darling,
Speaker 1: some big foot tracks?
Speaker 2: Are you here for it?
Speaker 1: Let's do this man, okay, yeah, can you see that?
Speaker 5: Okay, yep, I do I see it? That is something.
Speaker 2: Look at that man.
Speaker 1: So he's talking about a five foot stride there between footsteps.
Speaker 1: Oh man, that is awesome. Let me see we got
Speaker 1: some we lost debs. Hey, Courtney, my hair looks okay,
Speaker 1: your hair looks great. I'm sorry, not my hair, and
Speaker 1: now I can't hear you. You're so muted.
Speaker 5: I've had a long day. I've been doing this marathon Twitter,
Speaker 5: you know, x space all day on UFO disclosure. So
Speaker 5: I'm probably looking a little worn down.
Speaker 2: No, you don't, not at all.
Speaker 1: And what we're gonna keep this brief then, because Chris
Speaker 1: is having issues with So let's go to his other
Speaker 1: movie here, and let's let's take a look at this
Speaker 1: one and then we can share that. Let me close
Speaker 1: this one and we'll go this and let me see
Speaker 1: if you're gonna see this or not present share screen.
Speaker 1: There it goes, and then we'll add that to the
Speaker 1: stage or tell me if you let me go see
Speaker 1: Nathan had told me to go to certain options here.
Speaker 1: Let me is it option flex? Let me see what
Speaker 1: he got here? Whoa flex? All?
Speaker 2: There?
Speaker 1: We go flex all all right, let me add this
Speaker 1: to the stage and then let's play this bad boy okay,
Speaker 1: nice and big Oh, I'm gonna have to exit full
Speaker 1: screen in order to play. Okay, give me a second,
Speaker 1: my friend.
Speaker 2: And Debs is back. Hi, deb Hi, deb you remember me?
Speaker 3: I hope I stay back.
Speaker 2: I remember you too.
Speaker 3: I think this might be related to that global computer
Speaker 3: Iss all, let's see what we got here.
Speaker 5: I have heard of other people today that are having problems.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out what he's depicting in this
Speaker 1: in this let me play it again. Okay?
Speaker 2: Oh and that.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's a tree structure whereby it looks like the
Speaker 1: Bigfoot wedged it down into the structure there, which is
Speaker 1: one of their kind of hallmarks. There, see what else
Speaker 1: we can get out of there, get rid of this.
Speaker 1: We close this one, uh, quit there, and soon else
Speaker 1: we got h oh, this is this was his UFO one.
Speaker 1: Let me see if I can get that in there.
Speaker 1: So he drew this of a UFO sighting that he
Speaker 1: had out in the field. Let me see if I
Speaker 1: can present that one. There it goes well. If you
Speaker 1: can see this streaming arc keeps lagging and freezing. All right,
Speaker 1: we're probably gonna make this a really short night. Then
Speaker 1: on the side of the aircraft, something was very defined.
Speaker 1: Can you guys see that or no? Yes? No, no, no,
Speaker 1: you didn't see anything.
Speaker 5: I'm not seeing anything. I just see us in the All.
Speaker 1: Right, Oh boy, I'm try this again. Let's see if
Speaker 1: I can minimize that. Okay, that's not showing. Okay, minimize
Speaker 1: Let me close this guy let's see right here there
Speaker 1: you go. Now I think he can see it. Look,
Speaker 1: so this is a craft that he saw sent me
Speaker 1: a whole slew of photos. I wonder if I can
Speaker 1: open a bunch of them and then scroll through it.
Speaker 1: Let's see if I can.
Speaker 5: He did you send you any descriptions of the lights?
Speaker 5: I see lights there on each side of the you know,
Speaker 5: beings or orbs that showed up at the same time
Speaker 5: or is it just the of the craft?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's he said, side view of craft lighting. Blue
Speaker 1: light on the other side that was very defined center line.
Speaker 1: I couldn't match color, but very close.
Speaker 2: So wow. But there's a lot of geometry in there,
Speaker 2: which is interesting.
Speaker 1: So let me see if I can get more of
Speaker 1: his photos up there and we can take a look.
Speaker 1: Let's see who we got in the comment Let me
Speaker 1: just check comments real quick.
Speaker 2: Hello, O Pat, how are you?
Speaker 1: Uh? There's Patrick. I don't know if Chris. Chris was
Speaker 1: very frustrated. He was having issues trying to join us.
Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna try to show his stuff and
Speaker 1: then we'll probably shut it down and then reattack. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm in the process of moving, so I'm in a
Speaker 1: hotel room right now, I believe it or not, and
Speaker 1: it's not the best environment to do a show. It
Speaker 1: can work, but gee if if people's stuff isn't work
Speaker 1: and it makes it really difficult. So let me let
Speaker 1: me try this. We'll get some of these. Try. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think we'll have to do these.
Speaker 3: Okay, I think I'm good.
Speaker 1: Now it stops like you are. Oh, deb you're always
Speaker 1: good as far as we're concerned. Yeah, it mean as
Speaker 1: far as we know, you're always good.
Speaker 5: Goody's not she's not just good's.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we love Debs. Yeah, it is great h to
Speaker 1: see you, Debs, because it's it's been it's been minute.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's that's really cool. See if it'll show this.
Speaker 1: I don't know why I need to. I need to
Speaker 1: become more Oh wait, is that it? Okay? I think
Speaker 1: that's gonna do it. Now it's finally got there. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's try that all right. Now, let me come back
Speaker 1: to stream yad and I should be able to share it. Okay,
Speaker 1: So this is the one we just saw. We can
Speaker 1: scroll past that and let's see the next one. Now
Speaker 1: I'm gonna figure out how to manipulate this. Clearly, I
Speaker 1: need some oj T. Can you see this one now,
Speaker 1: the fifteen inch mail print? No, yes, okay, I'm having
Speaker 1: trouble making that one out. Can you guys make out
Speaker 1: toes there?
Speaker 3: I'm sure I can't. Really, no, I can't.
Speaker 2: I'll scroll in make it bigger?
Speaker 3: Is that good?
Speaker 5: Yeah? I could see a heel print possibly, Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: It's unusually okay, and here is this one? Won't get
Speaker 1: bigger or there it is? Yeah, he's measuring. He's measuring
Speaker 1: a distance there, So see what else we got. This
Speaker 1: structure turned out to be a compass see the video
Speaker 1: Sasquatch activity twenty nineteen. So yeah, sometimes I'll have these
Speaker 1: sort of directional things in the woods in order to
Speaker 1: point things to the young ones as they're moving about.
Speaker 1: These are obviously stones that they gifted. So this would
Speaker 1: indicate that Chris left this and a left's food or
Speaker 1: something in a gifting area. And what they'll do is
Speaker 1: they'll take the food and replace it with something like this,
Speaker 1: which appears to be like quartz.
Speaker 3: Is that right, ladies, Well, very likely because it's very
Speaker 3: very common. So I'm gonna go with it.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 1: So if Chris was here be able to kind of
Speaker 1: ask him the story about these Let's see what we
Speaker 1: got here, got another structure. Let me see if I
Speaker 1: can make this bigger. Okay, yeah, this is another structure.
Speaker 1: I've heard of these before, and sometimes when they're big
Speaker 1: lean tos. But you can see where there's a y
Speaker 1: here holding that up and.
Speaker 2: Then there's this bit here.
Speaker 1: And the idea is people like Chris and other researchers,
Speaker 1: they will not tell people where they're doing this, and
Speaker 1: so that precludes, you know, humans from coming and trying
Speaker 1: to fake them out if they know they are bigfoot researchers.
Speaker 1: This one, you can see those toes pretty clearly right here.
Speaker 1: That looks like moss and sand.
Speaker 2: Does that look right.
Speaker 1: Anyone?
Speaker 3: I can't really see it that. Oh I see the
Speaker 3: red line helps, okay because it's a little small. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but yeah, I see.
Speaker 4: So so so.
Speaker 1: One of the things that would be interesting about this
Speaker 1: one is that Chris went to Green Swamp, which is
Speaker 1: down in the let's say the Orlando Tampa Landa Lakes
Speaker 1: kind of area, and he went out with the guy
Speaker 1: that I went in the woods with named Tim t
Speaker 1: who is very well known researcher, and another gentleman I
Speaker 1: didn't know the other gentleman.
Speaker 2: But I have been out with Tim t.
Speaker 1: Bigfoot researcher in green Swamp, and that's where he got
Speaker 1: these photos. So that's kind of cool that he got
Speaker 1: to he got to see that. See the rest of
Speaker 1: them here, Let's see what else we got here. If
Speaker 1: this will pop up, you know, if this will pop
Speaker 1: up on the screen. Okay, can you guys see that?
Speaker 1: Or no? Is that popping up?
Speaker 3: We're still on a footprint.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna have to get rid of this one.
Speaker 1: Then close this one. Just give me a sec there, Okay,
Speaker 1: if you quit, and then I'll just open this one.
Speaker 2: Oh, Chris is here.
Speaker 1: Hey, Chris, you made it? Hey brother, Hey, Hey, welcome buddy.
Speaker 4: Hello, Hello, hello everybody? All right, Oh my god, what
Speaker 4: a what a mess out was? I don't even.
Speaker 3: Know? I feel you.
Speaker 1: You're not the first and you won't be the last
Speaker 1: that's had streaming our issues. My goodness, right, thank you, welcome, welcome.
Speaker 1: So this is a courtney you see up there in
Speaker 1: She would be in your upper left hand corner and
Speaker 1: is right next to you.
Speaker 2: And it's good to have you, man, Chris.
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you kind of like, what has
Speaker 1: been the evolution of your thought process from where you started,
Speaker 1: when you what you thought about these creatures and where
Speaker 1: you are now.
Speaker 2: What what's that evolution been.
Speaker 4: Well, when I first started, I thought they these guys
Speaker 4: were a monkey. You know, they were a big wooded
Speaker 4: ape that was in the in the forest and could
Speaker 4: hide very well. And I was going to be the
Speaker 4: guy that was going to go out and get that picture.
Speaker 4: I was going to get that film, you know, I
Speaker 4: was going to be the one. You know, it can't
Speaker 4: be that hard to catch them. Well, as we move
Speaker 4: on down the line, and I've been doing this for
Speaker 4: nine years now and I have gone from They're way
Speaker 4: more than a monkey. I mean, I've had stuff happened
Speaker 4: to me over the last nine years that had just
Speaker 4: flip flopped and changed my mind. And the Green Swamp
Speaker 4: played a big fire. Seeing you were talking about tim
Speaker 4: t and the Green Slop, that played a big part
Speaker 4: of me going from thinking that they were just fleshing
Speaker 4: blood to they were something else. We had a lot
Speaker 4: of a lot of strange stuff happened down there, and
Speaker 4: that just totally turned everything around for me. So I
Speaker 4: realized that they were very uh organized and very smart
Speaker 4: and they just weren't here knocking on trees, you know,
Speaker 4: making footprints out in the forest. They're they're they're here
Speaker 4: for a reason. They're they're they're way more than we've had,
Speaker 4: we could ever have imagined. And that's just my opinion,
Speaker 4: of course. Yeps.
Speaker 3: Well, I actually wanted to know, since you know, it's
Speaker 3: sort of a piggyback onto DJ, but it's I wanted
Speaker 3: to know what you ended up focusing in on when
Speaker 3: you went on this journey of researching, because I feel
Speaker 3: like some people leaned towards like the footprints and things
Speaker 3: like that, and other people start really getting into the structures,
Speaker 3: and some people just want to know about the witness accounts.
Speaker 3: So what is it that you kind of honed in
Speaker 3: on the most.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm an interaction junkie. I'm after that that physical interaction,
Speaker 4: them being there, stone's being thrown at us, vocals very close.
Speaker 4: That that's what we're about. We want to bring them
Speaker 4: in and get them as close as possible and see
Speaker 4: if we can do that and see what makes them,
Speaker 4: you know, tick, and see if we can manage to
Speaker 4: pull that off. And in the last couple of years
Speaker 4: we have actually made very huge strides and being able
Speaker 4: to do that, and we're we we Our stuff is
Speaker 4: basically focused around frequencies and all that stuff, and we
Speaker 4: bring RF meters into the woods with us and get
Speaker 4: your counters and all that stuff that we've from bringing.
Speaker 4: What I used to bring in when we first started
Speaker 4: would be a no book and you know, a camera
Speaker 4: and all that to bring in all these meters and
Speaker 4: everything in and registering and we're having stone strowing on
Speaker 4: us and having r F meters going off the going
Speaker 4: off the charts. If we were in a fair day box,
Speaker 4: we would be being cooked. That's how high these microwave
Speaker 4: readings are. So we were putting the pieces together and so,
Speaker 4: like I said, I just when we started, it was
Speaker 4: all about just getting cameras and I just thought they
Speaker 4: were an ape that could hide very well in the forest.
Speaker 4: And now, in my opinion, I don't think they're here
Speaker 4: personally all the time, but I can't I don't can't
Speaker 4: prove that, but that's just my opinion. So if that
Speaker 4: answers a little bit of what what you're curious about, I'm.
Speaker 3: Actually excited about that because I talk about the EM
Speaker 3: spectrum all the time.
Speaker 4: So thank you. Yeah, yeah, we've we've made huge strides.
Speaker 4: A man named Chris Connor down in Florida's from the
Speaker 4: trail out a big Foot. He's a good friend of
Speaker 4: mine and that's where we were just down in the
Speaker 4: green swamp with and uh we we we we're using this.
Speaker 4: He all right, I don't even know where to start.
Speaker 4: So do you want me to start there? Do you
Speaker 4: want me to start farther back? Or where do you
Speaker 4: want me to go?
Speaker 1: Now? I want you to go where he feels like
Speaker 1: organic for you to go, and then Courtney'll have something
Speaker 1: for you cud Okay.
Speaker 4: So Chris is a Chris is a mentor to me.
Speaker 4: He's the one that's taken me under his wing with
Speaker 4: all this stuff. He's been in communications for thirty years.
Speaker 4: He's part of the he was in the service part
Speaker 4: of the army for they did communications that UH and
Speaker 4: desert storm, all them all Afghanistan. He was all over
Speaker 4: the place, very smart man. And he's the one that
Speaker 4: he started noticing that that that these things are just
Speaker 4: it's it's it's it's a commonality to have the bumps
Speaker 4: in the night along with these guys and the orbs
Speaker 4: and the and the UH the paranormal stuff and then
Speaker 4: what people call the WU, you know the WU, and
Speaker 4: I think the WU should not be use. I said,
Speaker 4: this should be high strangeness is what we call it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, I was looking for a better term.
Speaker 1: That's great, right.
Speaker 4: The WU is rick flair, you know, woo, I'm limousine.
Speaker 1: You know, that's it's just that's stupid box. It's boxes
Speaker 1: that people try to Yeah, it's just stupid.
Speaker 4: You're right back when they when they use the word
Speaker 4: back way back when they were trying to basically making
Speaker 4: fun of you is what they they couldn't. But now
Speaker 4: we have meters and everything that can back up everything,
Speaker 4: and that's where technology has brought us to today. So that's, uh,
Speaker 4: that's a big thing in our defense. I mean, it's
Speaker 4: scientific what we're doing with using the meters and registering
Speaker 4: all these readings and uh, these guys are just going
Speaker 4: out and you know catching uh wood knocks and uh
Speaker 4: stuff like that. I mean, which is more scientific a
Speaker 4: wood knock or or E M F. Spikes and trying
Speaker 4: to figure out what's going on? So my my my position,
Speaker 4: that's what I think it is. But uh so Chris Connor,
Speaker 4: mentor of mine. He got me interested. He invited me
Speaker 4: down to his place down in the green swamp. So
Speaker 4: we went down in the in the fore and down
Speaker 4: in the green swamp the first day, and where we're
Speaker 4: walking through the swamp and we're being we got paralleled
Speaker 4: by something. He's been in this area for ten years.
Speaker 4: He knows where he's going. He has a place called
Speaker 4: the fridge. It was this habituation area. And we get
Speaker 4: to this area and he takes out his RF meter.
Speaker 4: His RF meter starts spiking, so on ours our meters.
Speaker 4: It's megawatt meter squared is what our reading is. So
Speaker 4: the microwave anything like point two zero zero and one
Speaker 4: point and one point zero zero above is dangerous levels
Speaker 4: of microwaves. If you're exposed to him like an like
Speaker 4: an closed room or closed like in a fairy day box,
Speaker 4: like a microwave, you would get actually get cooked if
Speaker 4: you were experiencing this one point zero zero zero, which
Speaker 4: we have many times. So this is the first time
Speaker 4: it happened. All of a sudden, his RF meter starts
Speaker 4: tapping out. It's it's buzzers, and then all of a
Speaker 4: sudden we start getting stone strown at us, and they're
Speaker 4: coming in, they're hitting the palm Franz and they're coming
Speaker 4: in and they hit the fronds and the things going off.
Speaker 4: So we're getting physical activity along with the RF readings now,
Speaker 4: and he's a big fan of Skinwalker Ranch and this
Speaker 4: is where he came up with a lot of his
Speaker 4: ideas to start, you know, start bringing them into what
Speaker 4: we were doing in our research and investigations. So that
Speaker 4: was the first day. So all that stuff is going on,
Speaker 4: and it makes you think, you know, the RF meter,
Speaker 4: you know, you start to think. So a couple more
Speaker 4: days go by and we have other strange stuff goes on,
Speaker 4: but we get to this one place and we walk
Speaker 4: in and all of a sudden, Chris goes, this is
Speaker 4: the place where I can ask for a knock and
Speaker 4: I usually will get a knock if I ask for it.
Speaker 4: So he does that, he gets up, he goes, so,
Speaker 4: my friend, Chris doesn't think I'm crazy and not talking
Speaker 4: the truth, can you give me a knock? And sure
Speaker 4: as heck, he gets a knock. No, lie, Thirty seconds later,
Speaker 4: something knocks on a tree. My mind is just I'm
Speaker 4: now I'm thinking, what's what's really going on here? And
Speaker 4: then Chris's phone. And I don't know if you guys
Speaker 4: ever experienced it, but something's trying to tap into his phone.
Speaker 4: Now it's going through all his like his bank accounts,
Speaker 4: and it's scanning. It's basically scanning his phone, trying to
Speaker 4: get into his stuff. And he has a he has
Speaker 4: a high up there job, and you know, he has
Speaker 4: codes and stuff on there and passwords that nobody should have.
Speaker 4: And and he's like, well, well, what's your phone doing.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, well, I just got my phone two
Speaker 4: weeks prior, so nobody really has my number but you
Speaker 4: and my my wife, and uh so I pull it
Speaker 4: out and there's there's four initials on it. It's B, B,
Speaker 4: C and M, like line after line like bbb C,
Speaker 4: m C MBBBBBBBBBB. So we figure butt dial, it's in
Speaker 4: my pocket. We didn't think that that could happen, you know,
Speaker 4: but Crystal, after Chris's phone started going crazy, so we
Speaker 4: erase eleven lines of a rate R or lace all
Speaker 4: the lines up to eleven of them, and we said, well,
Speaker 4: we'll better take a picture of these, just so we
Speaker 4: have proof of what if it's in case it's something
Speaker 4: in the case it's like a morse code that we
Speaker 4: were thinking. We couldn't figure out what it was. We
Speaker 4: get back to his house that day, I get out
Speaker 4: of the shower, I get pick up my phone to
Speaker 4: see if Maria called me, and back on my phone,
Speaker 4: guess what's back there? Bb mc now capital letters, small
Speaker 4: letters of parentheses, exclamation marks like at my hair starting
Speaker 4: to go up on my arms. So wild man all
Speaker 4: the lines and I go out Chris, I'm like, you're
Speaker 4: not going to believe this. Check this out what came back?
Speaker 4: And he's looking.
Speaker 2: He goes, what is this?
Speaker 1: What is this?
Speaker 4: And we couldn't figure out And then his wife comes
Speaker 4: over and she looks at it and she goes, I
Speaker 4: know exactly what that is, and our jaws just dropped, like, well,
Speaker 4: you know, we've been trying to think about it all afternoon.
Speaker 4: She goes, Betty, Biatta, Mark, and Chris the first four
Speaker 4: letters of the four people that have been in the
Speaker 4: swamp the last ten years searching for the sasquatch ooh wow, boom.
Speaker 4: And that's what changed it all for me, because that
Speaker 4: does not happen on my phone, and that was me
Speaker 4: typing out to somebody like I was texting somebody else.
Speaker 4: That's what did it for me. That's what turned everything
Speaker 4: around with the phone break. So then two weeks later,
Speaker 4: I'm back home here and I have a friend of
Speaker 4: mine that comes down from Massachusetts. He wants to check
Speaker 4: out my area. We're going up the mountain. We get
Speaker 4: halfway up the mountain. Guess what happens. His phone starts
Speaker 4: getting trying to get tapped into. It's going through YouTube videos,
Speaker 4: going through all this stuff, right, So he takes that out,
Speaker 4: he puts it away. We get to the top of
Speaker 4: the mountain. All of a sudden, my RF meter starts spiking.
Speaker 4: It spikes for twenty minutes while having stones coming in
Speaker 4: left and right and right. And I caught this all
Speaker 4: on Facebook. I was going live for my group on
Speaker 4: Facebook and they all got some of them might be
Speaker 4: in the chat tonight. Got to see it and the
Speaker 4: stones were just coming in. And so the same thing
Speaker 4: happened that happened two weeks prior in the Green Swamp,
Speaker 4: and it hasn't stopped. And now we're picking up EVPs
Speaker 4: and all this crazy, crazy, crazy stuff that you know,
Speaker 4: it's hard to imagine, But what am I benefiting letting
Speaker 4: everybody know what's going on other than the truth, and
Speaker 4: that's exactly what's what happened, and that's what changed my
Speaker 4: mind was the Green Swamp that day. And it hasn't
Speaker 4: slowed down since. And we just got back, as you
Speaker 4: were talking about, in June, from an expedition in the
Speaker 4: Green Swamp, and once again it did not disappoint. We
Speaker 4: had some really wild stuff go on and Chris is
Speaker 4: going to release a video in the fall about it.
Speaker 4: It's like it worked out to be like textbook what
Speaker 4: we're trying to teach people and show people that this
Speaker 4: is how it can be measured. So we were actually
Speaker 4: getting readings why we're having activity, and we were logging
Speaker 4: them and we were experiencing them, and we were talking
Speaker 4: about certain things is happening, and it was. It was
Speaker 4: such a wild ride and we Chris brought a disc
Speaker 4: gone antenna out at the fridge in that area that
Speaker 4: I told you about that he was habituating for ten years,
Speaker 4: and he got the same one point six gigahertz signal
Speaker 4: at that one spot in the Green Swamp as they're
Speaker 4: getting out at Skinwalker Ranch. And now he's tested that
Speaker 4: numerous times since and he can't get that signal again.
Speaker 4: I mean, we we wrote everything out into the swamp
Speaker 4: that time, and then I have a certain frequency that
Speaker 4: I've been working with that we haven't told anybody about yet,
Speaker 4: but that got a reaction also, we got it projected
Speaker 4: back at us, and then five minutes later we're approached
Speaker 4: and growl that.
Speaker 1: So we can't break I thought we're breaking news here
Speaker 1: all of a sudden. Wait a minute, what what's your frequency?
Speaker 2: Are you seeing?
Speaker 4: I'm not. I don't want to. I don't want to
Speaker 4: let it out yet because I don't want it to
Speaker 4: get into the wrong hands. I mean, we could talk
Speaker 4: about it privately after this.
Speaker 2: Okay, it works.
Speaker 4: We've tested in Connecticut and it's worked in Florida now,
Speaker 4: so it's worked in two places. I'm heading to Snowgrove
Speaker 4: Lake at the end of this weekend. I'm going up
Speaker 4: to Canada for ten days, so we're going to try
Speaker 4: it up there too. But it's brought them in in
Speaker 4: Connecticut and in Florida.
Speaker 1: Breaking ground. Let me look, get my homegirl, Courtney connected
Speaker 1: in here. We're saying Connecticut connected. Anyway, Courtney, what are
Speaker 1: your thoughts? Do you have a question or maybe thoughts
Speaker 1: and a question based on what he said.
Speaker 5: Yeah, one of the most fascinating things for me is
Speaker 5: the gifting fields. I've heard about them for a long
Speaker 5: time and how there are structures and there seems to
Speaker 5: be like a little bartering happening. But I was going
Speaker 5: to ask a question about lights and orbs and anomalous
Speaker 5: objects that are around potential sightings, and I saw your
Speaker 5: slide with the schematic that you submitted for tonight with
Speaker 5: the lights on each side, so I wanted to ask
Speaker 5: you did that come from an encounter, an actual case
Speaker 5: that happened, or is that just is that schematic from
Speaker 5: something from something else?
Speaker 4: Which which picture was it? I don't remember.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it had lines through it and then it had
Speaker 5: a blue light on one side and like an amber
Speaker 5: light on the other.
Speaker 4: Uh No, that's that's probably just me messing around with
Speaker 4: the graphics stuff. I've only seen myself one orb and
Speaker 4: it looked like a blue phoenix, and it was in
Speaker 4: the Ozark Mountains and it came down and it floated
Speaker 4: and it looked just like a phoenix. A little miniature
Speaker 4: PhenX was the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. It
Speaker 4: was light blue and it looked like it had fire
Speaker 4: coming off and it just floated down in between.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 4: It was really wild. But I think the orbs myself
Speaker 4: or oh yeah, no, that's the that's the craft. Those
Speaker 4: are the lights on the craft that we saw. You
Speaker 4: got to hear that story. Oh my goodness, my wife
Speaker 4: and I eperience that I tried to make a copy
Speaker 4: of it. What it with the panels? They were all
Speaker 4: triangle panels on this craft that we've seen that came
Speaker 4: over our house. But my wife was having sasquatch activity
Speaker 4: here at our home. And then by the end of
Speaker 4: the whole city out of the whole story ends with
Speaker 4: a blacked out helicopter and this thing coming a day
Speaker 4: later and leaving. It was it was a wild, wild,
Speaker 4: wild experience, and my wife experienced most of it. So,
Speaker 4: but that's the craft that we saw here at my
Speaker 4: house in Connecticut. It was enormous. It was a sizeable
Speaker 4: football field and it was right over our place here,
Speaker 4: so that was a little better there we go, Okay,
Speaker 4: it was the backside of it. That's what we saw
Speaker 4: when it when it got away from us, we followed it.
Speaker 4: Now that's part of the story too. That's Natari. That
Speaker 4: was my first uh. I started meditating and she actually
Speaker 4: came to me and I was able to draw this
Speaker 4: picture however on the computer that's exactly what she looked like.
Speaker 4: She told me her name and Natari. Actually we did
Speaker 4: some research. The squatch father is the one that actually
Speaker 4: came up with with the research. She was the first
Speaker 4: Native American saint and uh in up in New York,
Speaker 4: Upper New York State. She was the first one. And
Speaker 4: that's the Natari name. I never ever heard that name,
Speaker 4: and that's the name that I could never come up with.
Speaker 4: But that all happened in the same week too. Of
Speaker 4: the story with the with the craft and the and
Speaker 4: the the bigfoot that was here with the hummingbird feeder,
Speaker 4: and it's a big story. I can tell you guys
Speaker 4: that one if you want to go, I'm sorry if
Speaker 4: I get this is the one I do in it.
Speaker 4: I get if you haven't tell you, I get very
Speaker 4: excited and I can't kayak you can tell, right, And
Speaker 4: I kind of like I tried, I jump all over,
Speaker 4: So just tell me if I'm jumping into No.
Speaker 1: I want, well, Courtney you I just want to make
Speaker 1: sure Courtney you good on what. Yeah, I wanted to
Speaker 1: ask about Okay.
Speaker 4: Well we could talk. I traded with them Courtney for
Speaker 4: six years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, gifting, so talk to her about gifting.
Speaker 4: So I was a big fan of watching Angie. She's
Speaker 4: a good friend of mine. Snow White Bigfoot. If you don't,
Speaker 4: if you've ever seen her channel on Facebook, you should.
Speaker 4: She and she.
Speaker 2: Ohio okay, oh, the woman that dogs can have in
Speaker 2: the movie okay.
Speaker 4: Y, yes, yes, the one that catches the fingerprints and
Speaker 4: the arm prints on her car. She's been getting gifts
Speaker 4: from these guys for ten years, solid straight gifting. So
Speaker 4: I figured, well, let's let's try it. You know that,
Speaker 4: you know, we were doing the structured things. We were
Speaker 4: following the structures things worked at the beginning, because that's
Speaker 4: where it got us into their area. We looked for
Speaker 4: what they were building, and that got us into that area.
Speaker 4: It's called Larry's. If you go on my channel, that'll
Speaker 4: be everything that we gifted with. And we started off.
Speaker 4: We found a rock they knocked on the trees, and
Speaker 4: that's how we found the position the place where we
Speaker 4: started gifting. We were looking looking and we got knocks
Speaker 4: and there was this rock in the middle of nowhere.
Speaker 4: So we started gifting and it took over thirty days
Speaker 4: for him to take the gifts the first time. But
Speaker 4: when they took me, took everything at once, took all
Speaker 4: the rocks and everything. And over the six years we
Speaker 4: got we got stones from them. And Larry at his
Speaker 4: house would get raven feathers left at the spots, like
Speaker 4: he had a wood burning stove at furnace and he
Speaker 4: was always out stoking the furnace. He would get feathers
Speaker 4: left for him at the furnace at his car and
Speaker 4: his wife would see him in the creek at the house,
Speaker 4: so they were the property owners. And he would come
Speaker 4: up in the forest with me and we found a
Speaker 4: tree that they liked to play with. It was a
Speaker 4: pushed over tree and the log would be on one
Speaker 4: side one time and then it would be on the
Speaker 4: right hand the other time. One time we went up
Speaker 4: it was balancing on this dead ball root ball. The
Speaker 4: tree was amazing and never you would never believe it
Speaker 4: in mill As. You can see that on the channel too.
Speaker 4: Everything I talk about mostly is on my channel, so
Speaker 4: you can you can find it on there.
Speaker 2: And what is your channel?
Speaker 4: So we can discover Sasquatch on YouTube that.
Speaker 2: Will be in the show.
Speaker 1: Notes. Every guest who can comes on on cab has
Speaker 1: their stuff in the show notes, so it will be there.
Speaker 4: So once we started gifting, that's where the interaction junkie
Speaker 4: part came for me because when you got up there
Speaker 4: and you knew they were there, what we assumed they
Speaker 4: were there because I personally never saw them, but Larry
Speaker 4: and his wife seeing them up there. She would be
Speaker 4: doing the dishes and see them run up in the
Speaker 4: brook and they slapped the house and stuff like that,
Speaker 4: so we believe. I believe that they were That's what
Speaker 4: that was up there, And that's why you would go
Speaker 4: up there and they would follow you and they would
Speaker 4: knock on the trees and back you and then or
Speaker 4: they would leave you the feathers or the stones or
Speaker 4: just you had to pay attention to what was going
Speaker 4: on in your environment, so you would know what they
Speaker 4: would do because they were they're watching you, They're watching
Speaker 4: what you If you notice what they did, you know,
Speaker 4: and they do the small, small little things like we
Speaker 4: came up with a pattern hike that way we could
Speaker 4: see every week. No, yeah, same, but they knew where
Speaker 4: we were going so they could get ahead of us,
Speaker 4: they could stay behind us. They were no surprises, and
Speaker 4: that seemed to work out very well. And towards the end,
Speaker 4: they were just following us all the time, all the time.
Speaker 4: Every time we would go up there, and it would
Speaker 4: bring like it would make you feel really really good.
Speaker 4: But the property got sold and we couldn't go back
Speaker 4: up there anymore. But I got sick, like halfway through
Speaker 4: my gallbladder went and I couldn't make it up there
Speaker 4: for a month, and Larry wouldn't go up by himself.
Speaker 4: And I had a ripped off coyote leg left at
Speaker 4: my back door. I lived ten miles away from our
Speaker 4: gifting spot through the forest, wow right at my wowe.
Speaker 4: I've looked out our back door. She goes, what is
Speaker 4: that back there? And I'm like, I'm looking. I'm like,
Speaker 4: I have no idea what that was. I go on,
Speaker 4: I open up the basement door right here. I open
Speaker 4: it up and there's a coyote leg ripped off fresh
Speaker 4: off the dog. It's all. You can see the picture
Speaker 4: on the on the channel too. It's very they're not
Speaker 4: very nice pictures, but you put one and one together?
Speaker 4: Was that a gift for me to get better? Where
Speaker 4: are you? How can we come back. Well, I threw
Speaker 4: it right in the woods, and I tried to go
Speaker 4: get the guys from work so I could show it
Speaker 4: to them. And ten minutes later I came back down
Speaker 4: and the leg was gone.
Speaker 2: It was well Scottsquatch toothpick probably there.
Speaker 4: Right right right, And I mean, we had some great stuff,
Speaker 4: but we always tried to make it harder up there
Speaker 4: because we were trying to prove that it took hands.
Speaker 4: We're trying to always prove that these guys were smart,
Speaker 4: and for our benefit and for their benefit, because they're
Speaker 4: wicked smart.
Speaker 1: I mean, peanut, that's the Massachusetts thing. You can't be
Speaker 1: saying that in Connecticut. What do you do?
Speaker 2: I'm just kidding. Come on, Chris, work with merout.
Speaker 4: So peanut butter. They their favorite things were peanut butter
Speaker 4: and red delicious apples. Those were their favorites.
Speaker 1: Tell me that you didn't do like, you know, like jiffy.
Speaker 1: Tell me you got at least like an organic, premium
Speaker 1: crunchy peanut butter.
Speaker 4: We always, we always did, but we never would break
Speaker 4: the seal. We never broke the seal.
Speaker 2: Oh really, they'd have to break the seal.
Speaker 4: No, and we would never find the peanut butter jar.
Speaker 4: It would be taken interesting and we looked, I mean,
Speaker 4: there's hundreds of jars gone, and we looked everywhere. We
Speaker 4: could never find them. And they do it. They wouldn't
Speaker 4: eat Granny Granny Smith apples. They would sit in the
Speaker 4: tree and ride away. And that's how we know no
Speaker 4: other animals would come in there, because the deer would
Speaker 4: for sure come in and eat those apples off the trees.
Speaker 4: They would just sit there and rot and they would
Speaker 4: fall off the tree on the ground. They didn't like oranges,
Speaker 4: they liked meat. But they started getting aggressive because we
Speaker 4: didn't get up there all the time. Once every other
Speaker 4: two weeks, sometimes once a week. But at the beginning
Speaker 4: we were up there all the time. But as things progressed,
Speaker 4: we didn't go up that often. And that's when Larry's
Speaker 4: house started getting slapped. So that's when we said we're
Speaker 4: not going to give them a meat anymore because we
Speaker 4: can't see. But we never gave them enough food where
Speaker 4: they were depending on us. We would bring them six
Speaker 4: apples and a jar peanut butter or you know. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so you would pick up on all that little stuff
Speaker 4: with the gifting area and it was very It was
Speaker 4: very it was very cool. We had a monkey, stuffed
Speaker 4: monkey that was taken and brought back a year later.
Speaker 4: On the picture of that nest is where the monkey
Speaker 4: was brought back, that six by nine nests that we
Speaker 4: found out there. But that black See I'm jumping all
Speaker 4: over the place. I'm trying here. Here's all crammed in
Speaker 4: ten minutes.
Speaker 2: Well we'll get you know, we'll we'll get you back.
Speaker 4: Is it this not?
Speaker 2: This nest right here? Are you not seeing it? Are
Speaker 2: you seeing it?
Speaker 4: No, I'm not seeing it.
Speaker 1: Hang on a second, man, streamyard is so annoying. Sorry,
Speaker 1: here you go. Yep, that's it.
Speaker 2: This is where you got the monkey.
Speaker 4: So the monkey was left in the nest that was
Speaker 4: ten feet away from the gifting area. It was brought
Speaker 4: it was taken and a year later, the same week
Speaker 4: brought back sads so many. The monkey is right here
Speaker 4: in my right here in my my little shop.
Speaker 1: I got that is so weird man big, But like
Speaker 1: you know, we got to return this thing, all right.
Speaker 4: But we found a tree that was hanging in the
Speaker 4: vines and it was new and when we were searching,
Speaker 4: you know, we're doing our pattern hikes. We were at
Speaker 4: five o'clock in the morning and the sun was coming
Speaker 4: up right between the X, and I'm like, Larry, I
Speaker 4: bet you any amount of money this is a compass tree.
Speaker 4: I just feel it. I said, next time we come up,
Speaker 4: we'll bring the compass. We'll put it on the X
Speaker 4: and see what happens. Magnetic north. We put it on
Speaker 4: that X and while right also we got knocks and
Speaker 4: back of us. It's on my channel. We're showing it
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden they're knocking on a tree
Speaker 4: letting us know we're looking at it. We come back
Speaker 4: the next week to do some more research on you know,
Speaker 4: measure and bub all that stuff, and it was on
Speaker 4: the ground. It took it out of the tree, but
Speaker 4: it was still it was still magnetic north underground.
Speaker 2: So how the hell do they figure out?
Speaker 1: Well, let me let me get debs in here and
Speaker 1: then we'll try to figure out how they figure out
Speaker 1: magnetic north.
Speaker 2: Debs. Do you have a question for Chris?
Speaker 3: Okay, So when you mentioned the frequency thing, I had
Speaker 3: to come back to this. So we have people in
Speaker 3: the UAP community who talks about they talk about a
Speaker 3: frequency that attracts UFOs as well. They also talk about
Speaker 3: the impact of brain waves. So I wonder if you've
Speaker 3: done some parallel research related to what other people in
Speaker 3: the UAP community have found out when they encounter the paranormal.
Speaker 3: I think Peter Jackson's the one who talks a lot
Speaker 3: about a frequency signal that he tries to use to
Speaker 3: attract the UAPs, And there's a lot of people who
Speaker 3: are doing the they're using the muse visors I guess
Speaker 3: to read experiencer brain waves. So I wonder if you've
Speaker 3: looked at some of the parallel research and other areas
Speaker 3: of the paranormal about that.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: So, now that's the door that's just been open to
Speaker 4: us with this last trip to Florida. Now that's opened
Speaker 4: the whole UAP situ. I'm not a I don't know
Speaker 4: much about it. I'm brand new to all of it,
Speaker 4: but I think it has a lot to do with
Speaker 4: a lot to do with everything. I think it's all
Speaker 4: interlinked together. I actually think that the Sasquatch are are
Speaker 4: are an alien type being and themselves. I don't think
Speaker 4: they live here all the time because they were an animal.
Speaker 4: We would have one in a zoo and we just
Speaker 4: it's just they're just not an animal. They're just they
Speaker 4: just can't hide that. Well, we were human, we were
Speaker 4: hunt We've hunted all these years and you're telling me
Speaker 4: that we haven't hunted one of these down. Hi, Diane, how.
Speaker 5: Are you.
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 4: We're that's brand new to us. But yes, we are
Speaker 4: looking into that whole thing. My buddy Al Santa Riga,
Speaker 4: he's he's helping me. Chris is digging into it, Chris
Speaker 4: Connor's digging into it, and you know, Tim t is
Speaker 4: digging into it. There's a lot of people that are
Speaker 4: are starting to combine. I'm not going to focus on
Speaker 4: just the big full end of it anymore. It's got
Speaker 4: to be a broader horizon for me. I can't be
Speaker 4: trapped in this little box anymore. It's there's just too
Speaker 4: much that coincides with each other and it's just falling
Speaker 4: into place. So yeah, I would love to hear about
Speaker 4: the frequency thing with that. And I believe these guys
Speaker 4: can see your aura. I think that that's how they
Speaker 4: know good from bad. And I think they choose who
Speaker 4: they want to interact with and they choose who they don't.
Speaker 4: And that's why most more people have more experiences than others.
Speaker 4: You know, people say, well, I've had twenty eight experiences
Speaker 4: with them. Well, maybe because you're you're they can tell
Speaker 4: who you are. I guess I don't know, but that's
Speaker 4: what I think. It's just my opinion.
Speaker 1: But it makes sense though, right Chris, Like you going,
Speaker 1: you know, someone walks in a room and they just
Speaker 1: have a bad energy about them and you can feel it,
Speaker 1: and you're like, this person has an attitude, you know,
Speaker 1: you just feel something about that person, and so why
Speaker 1: And by the way, what Julie saying here is Julie
Speaker 1: needed a plumber's wrench one time, like a monkey wrench,
Speaker 1: pipe wrench, and it was left outside her home for that,
Speaker 1: so that was what she was gifted by Bigfoot. She
Speaker 1: lives in a very rural area in Alabama. But thank
Speaker 1: you Jules reminding me of that. But yeah, that totally
Speaker 1: makes sense what you're saying, Chris. You would think that
Speaker 1: they would be very sensitive to people's vibrations and what
Speaker 1: their intentions are, just watching them walk through the woods
Speaker 1: and how they carry themselves and what their intentions might.
Speaker 4: Be, right right, right, yep, No, I agree with you.
Speaker 4: So I think it has Like like dev said, I
Speaker 4: think they have a lot to do with a lot
Speaker 4: to do. I think everybody should step off into the
Speaker 4: EUAP and the alien presence and you know, try and
Speaker 4: put the pieces together on both sides. I got people
Speaker 4: doing it right now that you would have never I
Speaker 4: can't say their names, but you would never think in
Speaker 4: a million years that they're actually, you know, thinking about it.
Speaker 4: So it's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: So BF Bud is saying, maybe you guys are going
Speaker 1: to see some uap ufo at Snowgrove next week.
Speaker 4: Yep, Bud's going with us. Yeah, he's He was just
Speaker 4: with us in Florida with Tim t. He's a good
Speaker 4: friend of mine. He's been. He was at Snowgrove last
Speaker 4: year when we actually we had a thunder knock. It
Speaker 4: was we called it Brandon that we sounded like two
Speaker 4: thirty foot trees that were sworn at each other and
Speaker 4: hit and then me and Bud felt it in our
Speaker 4: chests like a recoil, like the waves of the ocean,
Speaker 4: bounced off our chests three times, boom boom, boom, and
Speaker 4: it was the loudest thing I've ever heard. Sounded like
Speaker 4: a volkswagon and just head on collision fifty to fifty
Speaker 4: yards from us.
Speaker 2: It was pretty intense, and I mean been and there
Speaker 2: have been a lot of wood knocks.
Speaker 1: But I think the other thing that you're talking about, Uh, Jules,
Speaker 1: let me just ask him this question real quick and
Speaker 1: we'll talk about where Green Swamp is. It's well known
Speaker 1: bigfoot research area. But what is going to ask you, though, Chris,
Speaker 1: is the significance of what you're talking about right now
Speaker 1: is that if Travis Taylor and those guys at Skinwalker
Speaker 1: Ranch a saying that they're seeing this one point six
Speaker 1: gigahertz signature. Uh, and you know when they fire rockets
Speaker 1: up into that area above the triangle and so forth,
Speaker 1: and you're seeing a certain signature that you say brings
Speaker 1: them out, that's huge. And Loue Elizondo, what did he say,
Speaker 1: dev that there's certain frequencies they think they can use
Speaker 1: that attract UFOs.
Speaker 2: Is that correct?
Speaker 1: Yes? Yes, uh huh. That's the significance Chris, of what
Speaker 1: you what you're talking about huge?
Speaker 4: So we use the whether they called the CE five recordings?
Speaker 4: Does that sound correct? Am I getting that correct? The
Speaker 4: CE five the recordings recordings that we got from deep space?
Speaker 2: DEAB would no better?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 3: I don't, okay, So CE five is actually like a
Speaker 3: term for yeah, human initiated contact. So C five is
Speaker 3: like kind of a broad term, and they try to
Speaker 3: have they've kind of replaced it because it's broader now,
Speaker 3: so it's, yeah, human initiated contact, So they don't they
Speaker 3: some of them to try to use frequencies when they
Speaker 3: do it.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: So is that was that go out and do the procedure?
Speaker 4: Was that us sending the frequency out into space or
Speaker 4: is that space sending that frequency back to us those recordings?
Speaker 1: So that place in West Virginia sends out that signal,
Speaker 1: the SETI I believe sends out a signal.
Speaker 4: Okay, so we all blasted that the night that we
Speaker 4: got the one point six gigahertz in the Green Swamp
Speaker 4: before we left, and then we left the recorder in
Speaker 4: the tree and we got a recording back two hours later.
Speaker 4: Something that sounds mechanical, like something was scanning the area.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 2: It was like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa wow, whoa
Speaker 2: whoa whoa.
Speaker 4: Came back three times. Now we have sent it out everywhere.
Speaker 4: Mark dan Antonio even listened to you. I'm sure you
Speaker 4: guys know who Mark is. I do, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: he's listened to it. He doesn't know what it is.
Speaker 4: It's an unknown unsounded but we got the one point
Speaker 4: six signal that night and then we call blasted that
Speaker 4: that CEE. Obviously I don't know much about it. And
Speaker 4: then we got that recording in the tree and I'll
Speaker 4: be I can send it to you guys so you
Speaker 4: can hear it. It's very strange. It's it's unknown right now.
Speaker 4: It's an unknown broadcast of something, something you know made
Speaker 4: this noise. And it's not an animal. They've we've even
Speaker 4: researched raccoon heartbeats and frog heartbeats and trying to match it,
Speaker 4: and we can't match it with anything.
Speaker 2: I can show.
Speaker 1: I want to show something real quick from SETI give
Speaker 1: me a sick here.
Speaker 5: Did everybody hear the sound that was on the site.
Speaker 4: We we were gone. We can't be in that area
Speaker 4: of the green swamp after a sunset, so we left
Speaker 4: a recorder in the tree and that's what it picked up.
Speaker 4: And that's the same area where we were approached and
Speaker 4: growled that and it was all in that same little
Speaker 4: habituation area.
Speaker 1: Tell me, if you guys can see that, can you
Speaker 1: read that anybody. Yeah, So SETI is broadcasting fourteen twenty
Speaker 1: to seventeen to twenty megahurts, thus the range of frequencies fourteen.
Speaker 2: It's called the water hole.
Speaker 1: It's been a popular frequency range for many SETI programs,
Speaker 1: so that may be what they're broadcasting into space. Right,
Speaker 1: So okay, wow, that is that's pretty that's pretty freaky, man,
Speaker 1: pretty freaky, brother.
Speaker 4: So I think it's exciting. I think it's it's just
Speaker 4: opening new doors. It's there's a breath of fresh air,
Speaker 4: at least in our investigations of the knocking on the train.
Speaker 4: I mean, the knocks are great, you know that they happen,
Speaker 4: and but it's it's time to get past the knocks
Speaker 4: and try and get some more info out there and
Speaker 4: find out what's going on. Because these guys are all
Speaker 4: the time noted around areas with orbs and noted with
Speaker 4: you know, hearing strange vibrations and feeling strange things and
Speaker 4: all that stuff.
Speaker 2: So she's one of you know, where green Swam is
Speaker 2: that's not secret.
Speaker 4: Is like central Florida, like right around Disney area, right
Speaker 4: in that area. It's pretty big. It's got a lot
Speaker 4: of history. So we've had we've caught e vps in there.
Speaker 4: Actually something new. Chris's name.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: When we were the first time we were in there,
Speaker 4: we were going across this little this little swamp and
Speaker 4: we fell and I fell into the stream. And we
Speaker 4: both have the same name, So we don't know what
Speaker 4: was for. But in the Southern draw it says, hey,
Speaker 4: look it's crious. You got it right on. You can
Speaker 4: see that on my my my H channel too. It's
Speaker 4: called the thing. It's called the Green Swamp Interview or something,
Speaker 4: but we play it for everybody. I think it was
Speaker 4: intelligent and knew my name or Chris's name. I imagine
Speaker 4: was Chris's name. But I'm was the one that fell
Speaker 4: in the water, So I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's watching you on YouTube.
Speaker 1: You don't know.
Speaker 4: Well, I brought things home with us, and that's another
Speaker 4: thing you have to be careful. Yeah, maybe it could
Speaker 4: be watching us the YouTube. I'm jumping all over the place.
Speaker 4: I've had so much things go happen. It's hard to
Speaker 4: get it all in.
Speaker 1: No, we won't get it all into, but we can
Speaker 1: get it all. We can finish up in a part too.
Speaker 1: But what's what is the feeling that you get when
Speaker 1: you're in their presence and you know that you've attracted
Speaker 1: their presence and you can what do you feel like?
Speaker 4: I feel happy, I feel happy, enjoy I'm a little
Speaker 4: afraid of the night because you never know what's gonna
Speaker 4: what it is, what's out there. My first interaction was
Speaker 4: that night, and I didn't know what to expect. See,
Speaker 4: I was always a believer. I believe all my life
Speaker 4: in Bigfoot. I would my friend had the picture of
Speaker 4: Patty and the Webster or what was it the World
Speaker 4: record book? Who did the World record book? Way back when?
Speaker 4: But anyways, he was in there, and I used to
Speaker 4: go across the street show me to show me the
Speaker 4: picture of the Bigfoot. And you know, I always watch
Speaker 4: and always believe, watched all the shows, but I was
Speaker 4: never a knower. And once you go from believer to
Speaker 4: knowing that they're really there, they're like really really really
Speaker 4: there and you can interact with them, it's a whole
Speaker 4: different it's a whole different scene. And they're enormous, they're big.
Speaker 2: They're they're quiet, they're they're they're just.
Speaker 4: They're the masters of their domain. And I'm always afraid
Speaker 4: that you're walking down those trails at night, and all
Speaker 4: of a sudden, just this big hand is gonna come
Speaker 4: back and just grab you by the back of the
Speaker 4: neck and just and there's nothing you can do.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: It's always in the.
Speaker 2: Back of my But does that excite you?
Speaker 4: It's joys, you know. I'm happy that they're there when
Speaker 4: we're there. The stone throwing doesn't bother me. I like
Speaker 4: the stone because it lets me know that their physical
Speaker 4: presence is there. Nothing else is. They're throwing stones at us,
Speaker 4: not a raccoon. It's not squirrels, it's not ravens, it's
Speaker 4: not any of that. It's something with.
Speaker 1: Hands is throwing throwing uh stones at us. And now
Speaker 1: they're desired to I'm sorry. Do you desire to have
Speaker 1: that contact Courtney and debts?
Speaker 5: You can take back? Go ahead?
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, Oh yeah, I definitely do. I don't want to.
Speaker 3: I don't want stones to be thrown at me, of course,
Speaker 3: but I do think that I would actually have a
Speaker 3: positive interaction. I don't know why. I just have an
Speaker 3: intuitive feeling that that's what would happen.
Speaker 1: They don't throw stones. Correct me if I'm wrong, Chris.
Speaker 1: They're not throwing stones that are trying to hit you
Speaker 1: and hurt you. They're kind of throwing stones near you,
Speaker 1: I think would be more accurate.
Speaker 4: I was never hit until Florida this year. That was
Speaker 4: the first time, and I was hitting the pant leg,
Speaker 4: but I think that's because I was in the middle
Speaker 4: of a crowd of people. But we've never I mean,
Speaker 4: Real American Monsters is a new project that we're doing,
Speaker 4: and I have the first episodes called Lard and that's
Speaker 4: about my first experience here in Connecticut with them and
Speaker 4: how they threw our stone at us and we were
Speaker 4: lured into the woods by a certain I don't want
Speaker 4: to give away too much of it, but it's going
Speaker 4: to be pretty cool. Uh, it's always close, but never
Speaker 4: hit us. And there I haven't had. I haven't experienced
Speaker 4: large stones except for fishing at this place, and they
Speaker 4: would throw them into the water. They give you as flat.
Speaker 4: I think it's just to get reaction. Yeah, I don't know,
Speaker 4: but I think most of it is a reaction thing,
Speaker 4: to see how you would react to the what's going on.
Speaker 4: And then we used to leave recorders when we left
Speaker 4: the campsites and they would throw rocks in the middle
Speaker 4: of the campsites. I think just to see if anybody
Speaker 4: was there, so they could come down and check out
Speaker 4: what was going down there. You know, they would throw
Speaker 4: tons of stones and then you hear the cooler. The
Speaker 4: cooler would open and close and stuff like that. They
Speaker 4: were they just wanted to come in, and so I
Speaker 4: think they use it for more than one thing. But
Speaker 4: I think it's pretty cool. That's my favorite thing.
Speaker 1: So, uh, there's a bigfoot? Uh Todd?
Speaker 2: Bigfoot New York?
Speaker 3: Todd?
Speaker 2: Where what part of New York are you researching? Where
Speaker 2: are you from?
Speaker 1: I'm from Westchester and as collecting more and I don't
Speaker 1: know what you mean as but collecting more handprints? New
Speaker 1: video of pebbles sitting right next to that. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: would be really cool. I would like to see that video.
Speaker 1: Tell me where you're from. And Courtney, what is your
Speaker 1: desire for a bigfoot experience? What would kind of satiate you?
Speaker 5: Well, I'm in Alaska a lot, so I've been kind
Speaker 5: of warned about the Alaskan experience.
Speaker 1: You promised me not no bigfoot in Alaska.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not really trying to manifest a big foot
Speaker 5: when I'm in Alaska. That's where I'm at most of the.
Speaker 2: Time, but Montana though. Montana.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was thinking about going down to Colorado potentially
Speaker 5: for my birthday and doing that, but I'm going to
Speaker 5: have to wait. You know, I can't pull it off
Speaker 5: on the schedule this year. But yeah, I definitely would
Speaker 5: if it's a positive and I'd like to see the gifting.
Speaker 5: I think that's really cool. Like I already said, so, yeah, open,
Speaker 5: you'd like.
Speaker 1: To feel it, right, you'd want to feel what it's like.
Speaker 1: I would, you know, to when it's in their presence.
Speaker 1: Surely we're going to be scared all that, but yeah, uh,
Speaker 1: and Todd tell us what do you know who Bigfoot
Speaker 1: New York? Todd is Uh, Chris, No, No, I'm not
Speaker 1: familiar with them. Okay, Bigfoot New York. Todd tell us
Speaker 1: where you where you're researching? If you know, you don't
Speaker 1: Bigfooters are notorious. They don't want to tell everything. But
Speaker 1: I mean somewhere in the vicinity or you know what
Speaker 1: county or something whatever you can give us.
Speaker 4: I think that Alba vertic Alba verdex that Doug's collecting
Speaker 4: sample of the white hand prints. You know, that's when
Speaker 4: that Angie's catching her on her cars and on her
Speaker 4: her prints. I think Diype asked Doug a few times
Speaker 4: about I said, has anybody ever tested them for radioactivity?
Speaker 4: Does anybody put a Geiger counter on that stuff? Because
Speaker 4: I think I think they have something to do with
Speaker 4: you know, that's where they're from. I think that's something
Speaker 4: to do with something to.
Speaker 1: Do, So absolutely, absolutely please, ma'am.
Speaker 3: I have to chime in, Like when you were talking
Speaker 3: about the we're I hear that in one of the
Speaker 3: offices I use at work because it's next to the
Speaker 3: server room, and there's just so much stuff coming from
Speaker 3: that room that the whole time I'm there, I hear
Speaker 3: we're like that. And so it's definitely, in my opinion,
Speaker 3: some kind of em thing that you're picking up that.
Speaker 3: And I don't know that everyone can hear it, because
Speaker 3: I tell my coworkers when I'm sitting in there that
Speaker 3: I hear that, and they never say anything about it.
Speaker 3: So I do think that it is worth looking to experiencers.
Speaker 3: As Courtney asked, did everyone hear it to see if
Speaker 3: you are picking up more than other people are of
Speaker 3: that spectrum and those frequencies.
Speaker 4: I think they like to I think they like to
Speaker 4: stay around, you know, the twenty herds, because under twenty herts,
Speaker 4: we're not hearing nothing. I think that's what they use
Speaker 4: to their advantage. They use those low, low frequencies to
Speaker 4: uh to maybe communicate with each other or send signals,
Speaker 4: or I think the little ones use it for it
Speaker 4: to call out to their parents. That's something that uh,
Speaker 4: I'd like to try sooner or later see if we can. Uh.
Speaker 4: They got that new bigfoot baby there. They got that uh,
Speaker 4: Jeff Meldrum just bought built little robot thing and really
Speaker 4: camera on and everything. So I'm curious to see how
Speaker 4: that thing works out.
Speaker 1: But I mean probably about like the monkey that you
Speaker 1: gave them. I mean, Julie has a question here, Julie,
Speaker 1: does it make a difference hearing regular stuff more difficult
Speaker 1: when you're hearing that debs? It does me.
Speaker 2: So I think you're talking about the being next to
Speaker 2: the server room.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's distracting. Yeah, but it's almost like you feel it,
Speaker 3: you know, more than hear it, if that makes sense.
Speaker 3: It's like in your body and you're like, I don't
Speaker 3: like being in that room. And it's actually I get
Speaker 3: I'm lucky because I have two offices. So I can
Speaker 3: go to the other one, and that's.
Speaker 2: What I use the boss man with the boss.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm with you on that. I think I
Speaker 4: understand exactly what you're talking about, feeling it more than
Speaker 4: you hear it. I think that's just you. You, like
Speaker 4: you said, that's your office.
Speaker 2: You're used to that.
Speaker 4: So you put somebody else in that position, they're gonna
Speaker 4: sit in the same chair and they have no idea
Speaker 4: what you're talking about. But you were accustomed to it
Speaker 4: and are hearing it every day. You can pick out
Speaker 4: those low, low, low tones and you know what to feel.
Speaker 4: You're feeling it. And yeah, like Julie Ferrell said, it's
Speaker 4: a frequency thing.
Speaker 1: So Julie is just smarter than most of us, as
Speaker 1: it turns out, Uh, Todd, what you said, man, that
Speaker 1: would really freak me out the predator because there's a
Speaker 1: couple of people who have heard that. Any isn't there
Speaker 1: a couple of people you've heard of, Chris that have
Speaker 1: heard the predator thing?
Speaker 4: Well, barbershot up in Barbara Shoop has Yeah, it has
Speaker 4: caught the predator like the the little whatever cloaking whatever
Speaker 4: you want to call it, mirror an object poke up.
Speaker 4: Did you guys see a bigfoot, normal bigfoot. Yeah, what
Speaker 4: a great What if you guys have never seen it yet,
Speaker 4: go out and see it because it's a great, great show.
Speaker 4: Well done, well done. And they show her, they redo
Speaker 4: it and they put a little you know, a couple
Speaker 4: of little you know, good editing into it. You bring
Speaker 4: out some color. But she catches the predator effect by
Speaker 4: something that she thought she saw was a little little
Speaker 4: baby bigfoot. She saw a brown, little furry thing and
Speaker 4: with the camera cut was this predator looking thing that
Speaker 4: was all mirrored out. And you see him look up
Speaker 4: at you. He puts his head down and he crawls,
Speaker 4: and then he takes off through the woods. It's very
Speaker 4: very cool.
Speaker 1: I think it's when he moves, when he moves away
Speaker 1: from the tree, that's when you see the predator like
Speaker 1: pixelation thing. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they did a great job of doing that and
Speaker 4: that that new making it.
Speaker 2: I'll i'll share this report, yes, ma'am.
Speaker 3: Interestingly enough, if you look into people doing meta material work,
Speaker 3: they talk about terror hurts and how that impacts like
Speaker 3: being able to see things. So again, it's still frequency.
Speaker 1: I just want to let you guys know about this
Speaker 1: movie because you guys can see it on YouTube for free,
Speaker 1: and Barb Shoop, she takes you out to the spot
Speaker 1: she you get to see where she shot it, and
Speaker 1: then she shows you the actual video that they run
Speaker 1: the video. So she's videoing you see what looks like
Speaker 1: a little baby bitfoot.
Speaker 2: Peeking around a tree. And then when it it, she.
Speaker 1: Sees it, Yes, I love I love you jewels. And
Speaker 1: then and then when she zooms off, the little creature
Speaker 1: looks and when it takes off, what you see on
Speaker 1: her video camera is it pixelating as it's moving away
Speaker 1: latterly from the view of the shot. Right, what Barb
Speaker 1: saw was a black creature running away. Yep, that's what's freaky.
Speaker 1: But you are seeing the predator effect on her video
Speaker 1: that they put.
Speaker 2: Up on the screen for you. Really freaky.
Speaker 4: And why if she caught that and when she didn't
Speaker 4: even go on purpose, so she was just filming while
Speaker 4: she was talking and it happened. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Because like if you look at Tim t and
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys, they'll have a staff and
Speaker 1: they'll have a camera shooting front and rear the whole
Speaker 1: time they're walking through the woods. They are never not
Speaker 1: recording because they know something could happen behind him or
Speaker 1: in front of them, so they're always shooting bi directionally. Uh.
Speaker 1: And I because I went out in the woods with Tim,
Speaker 1: I was telling him earlier and that's what he was doing.
Speaker 1: And it's that kind of attitude is how I think,
Speaker 1: you know, Barb shoot was able to catch this and
Speaker 1: there it is right there. Depths put it up and
Speaker 1: we got about five minutes left. So let's get some
Speaker 1: final questions from everybody and thoughts from Chris on everything.
Speaker 1: Just let me go around the horn and then we
Speaker 1: can kind of let Chris share whatever he wants here
Speaker 1: at his paranormal A Flash A Beauty paranormal Bigfoot it is.
Speaker 1: They do so well with the sound, the way they
Speaker 1: shoot it, with the mood of it, you feel like
Speaker 1: you're in the woods. It's really really cool.
Speaker 2: Very well.
Speaker 4: They're gonta do in another one now too, so I'm
Speaker 4: looking forward to that.
Speaker 1: So, oh yeah, I will be on that the day
Speaker 1: comes out. I'm breaking out my credit card and I'm
Speaker 1: paying for it. I love it.
Speaker 4: Close.
Speaker 1: The sound effect totally reminded me of sound Only Actually
Speaker 1: second Creature sounded off even closer, like they had same
Speaker 1: sounds but in different voice. Yeah. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: you have to imagine that a creature that is a
Speaker 1: master of the woods will understand how to project their
Speaker 1: voice in the way that they want to. They may
Speaker 1: not even be facing you with their mouth, you know,
Speaker 1: but they want to project their voice in a certain
Speaker 1: area because the object is for them not to be
Speaker 1: zeroed in on. And in fact, Chris will tell you
Speaker 1: some of them get pissed off when you when you
Speaker 1: stumble upon them and they they didn't make you, you know,
Speaker 1: you made them and they didn't make you. You know,
Speaker 1: you know, they're you know, digging for grubworms or something
Speaker 1: and you happen upon them. They're usually not happy. I
Speaker 1: heard a story in Washington State about like that of
Speaker 1: someone who left a hiking group and then saw something
Speaker 1: like that. But anyway, let's go around the horn and
Speaker 1: then and then let Chris finish off with final comments
Speaker 1: and then we'll we'll break it.
Speaker 2: But we'll have a part two where he can dig in.
Speaker 5: Courtney, please, Chris, I wonder what you think about some
Speaker 5: of these stories about especially Washington and Oregon, about different
Speaker 5: areas that the government might know about that they've known
Speaker 5: about for a long time where there was more sasquatch activity.
Speaker 5: What's your opinion on these locations and if the government
Speaker 5: knows well.
Speaker 4: I think the government's well aware of them. I think
Speaker 4: they have like men in black, they're a real thing.
Speaker 4: They have their own watchers, and that they get too close.
Speaker 4: We had an experience here. One got too close to
Speaker 4: them here and we had a blacked out helicopter over
Speaker 4: a house, hovering for ten minutes with no flight records. Nothing.
Speaker 4: We've searched and searched and try and find that the records,
Speaker 4: as DJ would tell you, they have to register all
Speaker 4: their flights, no matter what it is, and this copter
Speaker 4: was not registered and it was total lights out. And
Speaker 4: so I think the government's well aware of them. That's
Speaker 4: all about all I can I don't know why they're
Speaker 4: well aware of them. I don't know why they're here.
Speaker 4: I don't know, you know, what the purpose is. But
Speaker 4: I know if they get too close, I think they're
Speaker 4: escorted out some way or somehow. I'm not saying that
Speaker 4: they shoot them or shoot to kill or any of
Speaker 4: the men in flannels, but uh no, no, Yeah, So
Speaker 4: I think they're the government knows, and I think there's
Speaker 4: an agency that's well aware where they're at at all times.
Speaker 4: And I think there's government knows where the doorways are.
Speaker 4: I think there's doorways. I just don't think they they're
Speaker 4: here twenty four to seven.
Speaker 1: I think they come and go.
Speaker 4: I think they're able to do that, but I can't
Speaker 4: prove that, and that's just again my opinion, but I
Speaker 4: think I think that one point six gigaher it's like
Speaker 4: they're saying down at the ranch. I think that has
Speaker 4: something to do with the doorways. I think that's an
Speaker 4: area where you can grab that that signal or whatever,
Speaker 4: and I think there's a doorway. And Chris's area was
Speaker 4: very high habituation. Hear, he's experienced crazy stuff down there
Speaker 4: for ten years, and to get that in that exact
Speaker 4: same spot is just mind blowing to me. And he's
Speaker 4: gone up and down the green Swamp and all the
Speaker 4: other areas and trying to get that one point six
Speaker 4: and he hasn't been able to get it. So I
Speaker 4: think the government knows everything, and I think we're only
Speaker 4: allowed to know what we want to and if we
Speaker 4: get too close, then the guys in flannel coming on
Speaker 4: your dollar.
Speaker 1: Can I add to that for a second, so with
Speaker 1: the government, there are certain things that a lot of
Speaker 1: people are looking for that have to then be hidden
Speaker 1: behind program names, behind umbrella projects and so forth. Right,
Speaker 1: we've all heard of how SAPs are, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: way above black. You know, you guys have seen that
Speaker 1: book and that kind of give you an idea. But
Speaker 1: with when you're talking about land management, and you're talking
Speaker 1: about the state and national parks and the Department of
Speaker 1: the Interior is basically all of the federally owned land,
Speaker 1: you know in the United States, And if there's a
Speaker 1: SAP in there, like if how hard do you really
Speaker 1: have to hide something if nobody's looking for it?
Speaker 2: It's an open question to anybody. So here's what I
Speaker 2: mean by that.
Speaker 1: If you are trying to hide uap UFO, you know,
Speaker 1: any sort of programs regarding these things. You have people,
Speaker 1: very high powered people as Courtney and I have had
Speaker 1: this discussion. Cabin deb and I have had this discussion
Speaker 1: on many occasions. You have Undersecretary of Defense, you have
Speaker 1: former colonels, you have former directors of the Pentagon. You
Speaker 1: have guys that have been consulted like doctor Garret Knowing
Speaker 1: out at Stanford. You know, no one's like, no one
Speaker 1: from the government is contacting Jeff Meldrum and asking him
Speaker 1: all these questions and asking him to help him out
Speaker 1: with projects, And so it's very easy for something to
Speaker 1: hide when nobody of consequence is looking. And the fact
Speaker 1: that Chris and I are looking up to information about
Speaker 1: what's known about Bigfoot is of no consequence to them.
Speaker 1: But if you start getting a bunch of flag officers
Speaker 1: who are retired that are looking and that are asking questions,
Speaker 1: and they get Congress people, you know, there's nobody over
Speaker 1: knocking on doors in the halls of Congress saying I
Speaker 1: want to know about Bigfoot because this is a very
Speaker 1: important thing. People aren't doing that. So how hard would
Speaker 1: it be to hide any sort of a special access
Speaker 1: program that notionally the Department of Interior might have. How
Speaker 1: hard would it be to hide that? Not very hard
Speaker 1: because nobody's looking. Right, you can put an Easter egg.
Speaker 1: You can put an Easter egg out in the woods.
Speaker 1: If nobody's hunting for it, well, nobody's gonna.
Speaker 4: Find it, right, twenty seven thousand dollars for a Toilet's see?
Speaker 4: You know what was that movie from? You know that
Speaker 4: I don't remember you know what I mean. You know,
Speaker 4: an Independence Day.
Speaker 5: I think you're referencing it today when they're down in
Speaker 5: the bunker.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So, no, I agree with you. I think it's
Speaker 4: I just I'm addicted. I can't stop. So I think
Speaker 4: the door is just being opening more and more to
Speaker 4: as we move down the line with technology. So I
Speaker 4: think that's going to be our friend.
Speaker 1: Yeap, Do you have a final one? I've got a
Speaker 1: final one for Chris, but I won't let you go first.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So, since you're going out there to have these encounters,
Speaker 3: and I'm sure by now you've heard there are people
Speaker 3: getting messages. Have you ever had what you might call
Speaker 3: some kind of impression or a message during your co.
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have.
Speaker 1: I have.
Speaker 4: Natari was one. She came to me in a meditation state,
Speaker 4: showed me what she looked like, told me her name.
Speaker 4: Two days later, I had another little one come to
Speaker 4: me and his name was oh Man, I can never
Speaker 4: remember his name. It's a weird name. But he came
Speaker 4: to me and he jumped up on my chest with
Speaker 4: a beach ball. It was the weirdest thing. But when
Speaker 4: see this whole thing with the space, with the craft
Speaker 4: and the hummingbird. This is the whole, big, huge story.
Speaker 4: But when I was meditating and Atari came to me,
Speaker 4: she I also asked for signs to prove that this
Speaker 4: is real. When I was meditating, You've got to prove
Speaker 4: to me this is this name is Reel. You were real, Marie.
Speaker 4: I woke up. I go down in the kitchen. Ria goes,
Speaker 4: look out in the backyard. What's out in the backyard.
Speaker 4: And I look out in the backyard and what's laying
Speaker 4: on the ground a beach stuffed monkey and a tuppleware
Speaker 4: container things that we used at the gift area for
Speaker 4: six years as monkey and always we buried the gifts
Speaker 4: under the ground and tuppleware containers would rocks over them
Speaker 4: and everything, just to prove it wasn't yeah, And they
Speaker 4: were left out there, and then we put the monkey
Speaker 4: in the tree that was left there. And then he
Speaker 4: comes the next night, which I imagine he was a he.
Speaker 4: And then I come down and Maria goes, look out
Speaker 4: in the tree. Look what's gone. A monkey was taken
Speaker 4: the next day out of the tree.
Speaker 2: And they are connecting with you, Chris.
Speaker 4: They're trying to connect. And that goes along with Maria
Speaker 4: was having stuff go on with their hummingbird feeder, and
Speaker 4: then the craft and the black doll helicopter was all
Speaker 4: part of this amazing, amazing experience and uh, it's just
Speaker 4: it's wild and so yes, I definitely have had that
Speaker 4: happen more than once. And I was told we actually
Speaker 4: had a psychic reach out to me. I got a
Speaker 4: hold of al Santa. Rica said, al, do you know
Speaker 4: who this Chris guy is? Because I have some something's
Speaker 4: coming to me and I really need to talk to
Speaker 4: him out of the blue. So then they had to
Speaker 4: get a hold of me, and she talked to me
Speaker 4: and told me what was going on, and a bunch
Speaker 4: of other stuff came on. I had like little alien
Speaker 4: looking creature run across my bed one night. I screamed
Speaker 4: like a little girl. Maria came up. He opened the
Speaker 4: door where she goes, what the heck happened? I'm like,
Speaker 4: please tell me the cat was up here. Please tell
Speaker 4: me the cat was up here. Please tell me the
Speaker 4: cat was up here. She goes, No, the cat was
Speaker 4: downstairs with me. It was this little skinny white looking thing.
Speaker 4: He ran a cry. I felt that stepsicle all look
Speaker 4: at my hands or all that was the craziest thing
Speaker 4: I've ever experienced. When it's all but that's all part
Speaker 4: of the men ever since I started meditating. This is
Speaker 4: what's gone on, and I'm not getting anything by telling anybody.
Speaker 4: And I'm not crazy. I'm a grandfather of two beautiful grandkids,
Speaker 4: and I love my wife and i love my life
Speaker 4: a full time job. I mean, I'm not doing this
Speaker 4: for attention. That's the least of my worries. I don't
Speaker 4: want to be royalty, big Foot royalty I call it.
Speaker 4: I have no intentions of being that.
Speaker 2: Is there?
Speaker 1: Bigfoot Royalty?
Speaker 2: Is there an I know? I mean, I know what
Speaker 2: you mean.
Speaker 4: I know I got to do the conventions and all
Speaker 4: that stuff, and I just don't. I'm just not into
Speaker 4: the thing I'm really into that's coming up. I know
Speaker 4: you have a question, so I won't get into it.
Speaker 4: I'll do my final thoughts. But yes, I've had other
Speaker 4: stuff too that I could share with you. Next time.
Speaker 4: I'll be a little bit more. I'm just a little
Speaker 4: the bunkled because I try to get on here.
Speaker 1: We will, we will get you on again, and we'll
Speaker 1: we'll go deeper into it because you're a fascinating researcher.
Speaker 1: But let me answer Todd's question and get my last question,
Speaker 1: and Todd compartmentalization, there's nothing really. I'm sure there are
Speaker 1: probably contractors that that work for them, and that's probably
Speaker 1: who has shown up on several occasions. People are describing
Speaker 1: similar individuals when they report certain types of bigfoot encounters.
Speaker 1: You know the guys in Ohio that were attacked in
Speaker 1: the fishing boat, Claire out in Mountain View, California who
Speaker 1: got dragged back to her car. You know, certain ones
Speaker 1: they've appeared, but.
Speaker 2: There's no.
Speaker 1: Contracting it out. I don't think is quite the accurate
Speaker 1: term because it's going to be under the direction of
Speaker 1: that department, which in this case would be the Department
Speaker 1: of Interior, but there certain wouldn't be any autonomous. Hey,
Speaker 1: you guys should go and handle all this and let
Speaker 1: us know how it goes. This is all being coordinated
Speaker 1: from you know, police to rangers, whether they be State
Speaker 1: Force rangers, to National Park rangers, and then up to
Speaker 1: the Department of Interior. Just the way when there's a
Speaker 1: UFO siting, you know, sheriffs will see something, they'll call somebody,
Speaker 1: then somebody called DC and then the next thing you know,
Speaker 1: and this happened in that Tucson, Arizona incident with the helicopter,
Speaker 1: the heal, the multiple helicopters. So anyway, I digress. But
Speaker 1: that's how I think it probably goes. And like I said,
Speaker 1: not nobody that is of a nature like you don't
Speaker 1: have five or six congressmen in paneling a to get
Speaker 1: on the record testimony like they did with UFOs. If
Speaker 1: you start doing things like that, now they have to
Speaker 1: look to hide things, and now they're gonna have to work.
Speaker 2: But they don't have to work if nobody is.
Speaker 1: Doing things like that, And no congressman or senator at
Speaker 1: this point is going to go and say, hey, we
Speaker 1: want to know what's going on with big butt, you know,
Speaker 1: like Tim Burchett.
Speaker 2: You know that's not gonna happen right now.
Speaker 1: It's just not because it's political season. They would worry
Speaker 1: about their credibility with voters and all these things come
Speaker 1: into play that I think I'll lot of those guys
Speaker 1: just don't want to tackle for their own reasons.
Speaker 2: You know that some of them might want to know
Speaker 2: they say they ran Paul.
Speaker 1: I think some of them, I don't know, is one
Speaker 1: of the Kentucky Centers has had a Bigfoot experience. Tim
Speaker 1: Burchett also might be another one from Tennessee. But if
Speaker 1: nobody is asking, they don't have to answer any questions.
Speaker 1: Final question, if you put this into one sentence, what
Speaker 1: do you want for the Bigfoot people?
Speaker 4: I know, I don't think it's about the Bigfoot people.
Speaker 4: I just want people to be aware.
Speaker 1: No the Bigfoot as if we were to refer to
Speaker 1: them as a people.
Speaker 2: What you want for them?
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I think they do pretty well for themselves
Speaker 4: right now. I don't think they have much to worry about. Really,
Speaker 4: they don't. They they have They do whatever they want,
Speaker 4: and we can't catch them, we can't find them.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: I don't want them to get hurt, don't you know?
Speaker 4: I don't want That's why I wouldn't give away the
Speaker 4: frequency to just anybody, because you know what if a
Speaker 4: hunter can call them in, what if it calls them
Speaker 4: a little one and someone takes a shot on him.
Speaker 4: I don't want that to happen at all. If I
Speaker 4: I've always been asked that question, if I ever been
Speaker 4: in that situation to be able to tell somebody where
Speaker 4: they are or how to get them or where what.
Speaker 2: Would you do?
Speaker 4: And I wouldn't. I wouldn't tell them where to go.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't tell them. I would I would never lead
Speaker 4: them anywhere anywhere close. They have just as much right
Speaker 4: to be here as I do.
Speaker 1: Sure do.
Speaker 4: So I don't want any harm to come and that
Speaker 4: The main thing that I'm just out for is just aware.
Speaker 4: I want people to be aware that they're there. And
Speaker 4: everybody has a bad day. I don't know if they're
Speaker 4: all good. I can't you know everybody.
Speaker 2: I'm sure they're not right.
Speaker 4: So, like I told you, with that lewd experience, the
Speaker 4: one that I've got coming up, I saw a family
Speaker 4: of three, a mother and two little girls going up
Speaker 4: the same trail the next you know what, and they
Speaker 4: didn't know what we happened to us that day ahead
Speaker 4: of time. And that's what Yeah, that's what Real American
Speaker 4: Monsters is really about. So the new project that's coming up,
Speaker 4: But yeah, I don't want any harm to happen to them,
Speaker 4: I would, you know, just let them live their life,
Speaker 4: but just be aware that they're there.
Speaker 1: Okay, So let's finish off with that. So Real American
Speaker 1: Monsters kind of give give an overview of what that is.
Speaker 1: As we get out of here, I want to give
Speaker 1: you some time to just talk about what you have
Speaker 1: coming up and let people know what they can look
Speaker 1: forward to.
Speaker 4: Right. So, real American monsters I came up with, and
Speaker 4: it's going to be a push. It's going to be
Speaker 4: a push to push the envelope. We are going to
Speaker 4: go into the back, nitty gritty swamps, homes, back country folks.
Speaker 4: I mean I get teased about that, calling people back
Speaker 4: country folks all the time. And for awareness, I know
Speaker 4: a lot of people. I've met a lot of people.
Speaker 4: I know people that have them run their per They're
Speaker 4: letting me into their their homes and they're going to
Speaker 4: let me film there. I want to bring real evidence
Speaker 4: as much as I can push to the people. I
Speaker 4: want to just make people aware that they're real. I mean,
Speaker 4: just be aware that they're real and they're out there.
Speaker 4: I'm going to do everything though. I'm going to look
Speaker 4: into the dog men, I'm going to look into the
Speaker 4: UAPs and the aliens, and I'm going to look into
Speaker 4: the paranoi. I have my first going on, my first
Speaker 4: paranormal investigation at a hotel in New York that's haunted
Speaker 4: and I'm going to film all that and we're going
Speaker 4: to push the envelope. But I'm the first episode is
Speaker 4: going to be called Lord, and that's going to be
Speaker 4: for everybody to see to come out, and if anybody
Speaker 4: wants to get behind it, you can get a contact
Speaker 4: me and get behind it, because it's a lot of
Speaker 4: work for one person.
Speaker 2: How do they contact you?
Speaker 4: Discover Sasquatch at gmail dot com would be the best
Speaker 4: way to get Just email me, But wait till the
Speaker 4: first episode comes out and see what it's going to
Speaker 4: be all about and get behind it, because I'm gonna
Speaker 4: make a push to do it, do it right and
Speaker 4: show people what's what's really, you know, really going on there.
Speaker 4: You're gonna go after the slender Man. We're gonna go
Speaker 4: after all the old you know, old legends and old
Speaker 4: Baffman stories and get into the nitty nitty gritty of everything.
Speaker 4: So that's that's what real American monsters all about. I'm
Speaker 4: getting out of the box, out of the big foot
Speaker 4: box I've experienced. I know, yep, I even know they're real.
Speaker 4: I know they're there.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 4: We just got to make people aware and uh have
Speaker 4: some pretty amazing places. I can go and start researching
Speaker 4: that and investigating and filming. I have four episodes lined up.
Speaker 4: I've got unseen footage right now from the cells down
Speaker 4: in Texas, the big Foot fighting scene. You ever see
Speaker 4: that with the tires out in the farm and then
Speaker 4: that big tall guy walks out, Tall Paul walks out
Speaker 4: and he just sits right there in the middle of that.
Speaker 2: Far Yes, yes, that was U. M. K. Davis to
Speaker 2: the thing on that right right.
Speaker 4: I have almost that. I have unseen footage from that place.
Speaker 4: Now there's been I can't mention names because they told
Speaker 4: me not to mention names. But I've had producers and
Speaker 4: people videographers that looked at and says, there's no way
Speaker 4: they could have faked all that. There's the outfits that
Speaker 4: they had and the cost of everything. There's just they
Speaker 4: couldn't have faked that stuff. And I have unseen and
Speaker 4: unheard footage of that. And I have a whole bunch
Speaker 4: of stuff in the wings for real American monsters. So again,
Speaker 4: you want to get involved, help me out. I'm not
Speaker 4: asking for money, I'm not just I mean it would
Speaker 4: be great for uh, for a cameraman or someone that
Speaker 4: knows how to edit, to help with editing and just
Speaker 4: stuff like that and then just let YouTube take care
Speaker 4: of the rest and see where it goes.
Speaker 2: That cat might help you. That worked for Doug. What
Speaker 2: was it, general, Adam Colt.
Speaker 4: Adam with me. He's he's he's helping in the background. Uh,
Speaker 4: he's going with it. He's going with us. He's going
Speaker 4: with us this week we can. And he came up
Speaker 4: last year too, so uh yeah, snow Girl was gonna
Speaker 4: gonna feel much snow Girl this year and uh so yeah,
Speaker 4: so get behind the real American monsters. I love to
Speaker 4: come back. I'm sorry that. Uh I blew it at
Speaker 4: the beginning. I couldn't. I couldn't figure it out. I
Speaker 4: was all sometimes something things I'm good at and some
Speaker 4: things I'm not good at. When technology and well, yes, I.
Speaker 1: Can tell you what you are good at is making
Speaker 1: people really feel real comfortable. You know, I am nobody
Speaker 1: in the bigfoot world, and you were willing to get
Speaker 1: on the phone and talk to me and tell me
Speaker 1: about your experiences. I mean, this has happened with true crime.
Speaker 1: People have embraced us, and it's a blessing when that happens.
Speaker 1: And you you did that for me and we hit
Speaker 1: it off like right away, you know, I mean via
Speaker 1: email first and text and then and then we got
Speaker 1: to speak several times.
Speaker 2: And it's an honor to speak.
Speaker 1: With you and have you share, and so we'll we'll
Speaker 1: have you come back again, everybody, for one thing before
Speaker 1: we say goodbye to Chris, if you would give us
Speaker 1: just a subscribe to our cab YouTube and a hit
Speaker 1: the like button, we would greatly appreciate that as we
Speaker 1: try to grow this thing and maybe get advertisers to
Speaker 1: help us pay for it. For the first time in
Speaker 1: the history of calling all beings, if it could pay
Speaker 1: for itself, we would be gratified anyway. So now, yeah,
Speaker 1: discover excuse me, discover sasquatch at gmail dot com. If
Speaker 1: you want to get a hold of Chris. What is
Speaker 1: your YouTube channel, sir?
Speaker 4: Discover sasquatch too is the name of the YouTube channel?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: It can't make it no damn easier for that, yall
Speaker 1: than that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're approaching for we're approaching four thousand subs. We
Speaker 4: need seventy more subs on there. And he's right, you know,
Speaker 4: any if advertising you know, have a company to get
Speaker 4: a hold of you to help out things that wouldn't
Speaker 4: make things a hell of a lot better for a
Speaker 4: lot of people, you know, because it takes a lot
Speaker 4: of time, and everybody does this, and yeah, everybody deserves
Speaker 4: a little little little help along the way.
Speaker 2: So and and money, yeah right.
Speaker 4: I don't like to ask for money too much. I
Speaker 4: usually like sell T shirts, but that doesn't really get
Speaker 4: you too far.
Speaker 1: I mean no, meaning it costs a lot of It
Speaker 1: costs money to do these shows. I mean it's it's
Speaker 1: about four or five hundred bucks a year to do this,
Speaker 1: you know now, because now even now even Twitter is
Speaker 1: charging us to stream on there. You can't.
Speaker 2: You can't. It won't stream to a free Twitter down anymore.
Speaker 2: So as they do that, you know.
Speaker 1: And YouTube is when you get super chats. We found
Speaker 1: that out from some of the True crime. YouTube takes
Speaker 1: thirty percent of your superchats. So we get seventy but
Speaker 1: they get thirty. So yeah, anyway, let's let the cabbys
Speaker 1: start with Kabby. Goodbyes with Courtney.
Speaker 5: Thanks for sharing about your projects, Chris. I'm really looking
Speaker 5: forward to really American monsters. And I also want to
Speaker 5: say thanks for the idea about the SETI SETI frequency.
Speaker 5: I hadn't heard that, and that's something new and novel,
Speaker 5: and so thanks for sharing that and also all your
Speaker 5: personal stories about your experiences. I always think that's a
Speaker 5: nice balance between the science and the tech and personal experience.
Speaker 5: So I'm really looking forward to seeing your project.
Speaker 4: Well, thank you so much. It's been a pleasure, Debs.
Speaker 3: I am also very happy to have met you. I
Speaker 3: feel like you have a lot to offer in this
Speaker 3: discussion and your journey has just started. So thank you
Speaker 3: for coming and talking to us, and look forward to
Speaker 3: seeing what you're going to do.
Speaker 4: Well, thank you so much. I look forward to coming
Speaker 4: back and telling you guys the big story because it's
Speaker 4: a it's a head turner, and it's got every everything
Speaker 4: we talked about tonight all in one story. So it's
Speaker 4: really amazing.
Speaker 1: Oh we will, We'll get you back on here, brother,
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll get you on with Al. I think maybe
Speaker 1: we'll just double up and do it because we have
Speaker 1: ol books, and maybe we'll just get both of you.
Speaker 1: Because the New York experience is a whole thing in itself.
Speaker 1: Just what happened with you guys and the catskills, I mean,
Speaker 1: it is an awesome story to me. Yeah, maybe we'll
Speaker 1: do I think that would be apropos. We'll do Christ
Speaker 1: and the Squatch Father from New York alf Santa Rica.
Speaker 4: Yeah, how he's doing. That was quite the experience that
Speaker 4: and I never never experienced anything like that. That was wild.
Speaker 1: Chris I got He's like, oh my god, I'm freezing.
Speaker 2: We got to get out of here.
Speaker 1: And he moved, you know, like one hundred feet away
Speaker 1: from that spot where the archway was, and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden his body went back to normal.
Speaker 4: Total attachment. Had the compass was at my feet spinning
Speaker 4: around in a three six. See. We had the storm
Speaker 4: come in like freaking Poltergeist at the pool scene. It
Speaker 4: was unreal. I love it.
Speaker 1: I love it, man, I'm telling you man, I love
Speaker 1: listening to that story. We gotta get out on with Chris.
Speaker 1: So Chris will be co host for that episode and
Speaker 1: then they can they can you know, they could both
Speaker 1: just you know, share stories and with us, the two
Speaker 1: of them. So thank you Chris on behalf of Courtney
Speaker 1: and Debs. Uh. This is your boy, and I'm honored
Speaker 1: that you would come on once again. This is your
Speaker 1: boy saying peace out, one love, We'll see it down
Speaker 1: the road, and we're always wondering what's up around the bend.