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<v Speaker 1>All right, Bigfoot Society, you've got the privilege of talking

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<v Speaker 1>to individual. Today's name is Bill Baum. He's got some

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<v Speaker 1>interesting things he's been involved with over the years that

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<v Speaker 1>he was nice enough to give me a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>about his background as well. Bill started out as a

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<v Speaker 1>radio DJ at age fourteen for about thirty four years.

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<v Speaker 1>He's currently a voice actor, but he's also had some

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<v Speaker 1>interesting interactions going on with Sasquatch as well. So welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to the show. Bill.

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<v Speaker 2>How's it going doing great? Thank you. It's a warm

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<v Speaker 2>welcome and it's good to be here, and I'm looking

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<v Speaker 2>forward to telling you and the listeners of just what

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<v Speaker 2>I've been into here in East Texas. It's been an

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<v Speaker 2>amazing journey. I'm four years into the interaction, having walked

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<v Speaker 2>the woods for about twelve years, so it's taken a while,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's definitely paid off.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh Man, Yeah, East Texas. There is so much going

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<v Speaker 1>on in that. I mean when you say East Texas,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot going on. So I'm definitely excited to

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<v Speaker 1>hear what it is you've gotten yourself into. But would

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<v Speaker 1>you be all right with taking us back to when

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<v Speaker 1>this first all started for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Bill, definitely. It started when I married my wife her

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<v Speaker 2>for a year when I lived about an hour from

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<v Speaker 2>where I live now, and I would come up on

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<v Speaker 2>the weekends, and being into the subject as I was,

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<v Speaker 2>I would naturally go walk the woods during the time

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<v Speaker 2>that i'd stay with her over the weekend before I

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<v Speaker 2>returned on Sunday. And I didn't hear anything or see

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<v Speaker 2>anything at first that gave me any clue, But being

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<v Speaker 2>into the subject, you know, it's fun to walk the

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<v Speaker 2>woods and imagine and so that's what I did. In

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<v Speaker 2>my mind. I just started imagining what it'd be like

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<v Speaker 2>and thought, you know, just in case there ever is

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<v Speaker 2>activity here, you're going to be over here, start behaving

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<v Speaker 2>as if they're watching you. And I got very careful

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<v Speaker 2>about what I did, respectfulness doing that and kind of

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<v Speaker 2>started honing my skills. And because I'd never lived in

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<v Speaker 2>the country, I'd always lived in the city, so I

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<v Speaker 2>had ready access to the woods. And it's about one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and forty acre area across from the two acres

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<v Speaker 2>that I live on. And the one thing I noticed

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<v Speaker 2>from the get go it was always quiet over there,

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<v Speaker 2>so quiet that you can actually here silence, because silence

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<v Speaker 2>has a it's like a room noise with a microphone

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<v Speaker 2>on and no one speaking. It's that quiet. And I

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<v Speaker 2>remember thinking, that's so bizarre. Why are there birds on

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<v Speaker 2>my two acres but no birds over here. I rarely

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<v Speaker 2>hear birds, just the occasional crow. And that moved After

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of years. I started seeing trees that were

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<v Speaker 2>bent and things that didn't with trees that didn't look

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<v Speaker 2>like it was nature, rain, whatever, And it occurred to

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<v Speaker 2>me years later that I had been watched the whole time.

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<v Speaker 2>But because I was unarmed, and because they can read

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<v Speaker 2>you like a book, you know, and being into the subject,

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<v Speaker 2>they're probably picking up on me thinking he knows we're

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<v Speaker 2>out here, but can't see us and doesn't know where

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<v Speaker 2>out here. But this one's different. Watch him, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>something along those lines. This is just what I think

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<v Speaker 2>in my head. And when I'm there with animals, dogs,

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<v Speaker 2>even cats walking with me, then that it sends a

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<v Speaker 2>signal that you know, I'm just here checking things out.

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<v Speaker 2>And that turns out they were friendly and not mean

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<v Speaker 2>as I've heard some can be. And so it really

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<v Speaker 2>just started with multiple walks in the woods and it's

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<v Speaker 2>well over three thousand now. It's literally across the road

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<v Speaker 2>from where I live, and they communicate with me when

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<v Speaker 2>I'm on the property as often as when I'm in

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<v Speaker 2>the woods and that type of thing. So it's been

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<v Speaker 2>built up. It started in twenty eleven. To contact. The

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<v Speaker 2>calling out to me only started four years ago, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's like twelve thirteen years of walking before they ever

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<v Speaker 2>reached out to me. It took that long. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>what you're up against if you start to go out

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<v Speaker 2>into the woods and you'd want to try to get

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<v Speaker 2>to know them, which is my objective. That's what it's

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<v Speaker 2>taken as far as length of time patience wise.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you say three thousand, you're referring to the

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<v Speaker 1>number of the trips you were taking out in the woods.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, yeah, time, oh six soven years ago. I sat

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<v Speaker 2>down and thought, Okay, you met her in twenty eleven.

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<v Speaker 2>You went there every week. That's fifty two weeks a year,

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<v Speaker 2>three trips to the woods each weekend when you married

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<v Speaker 2>her and you live there. Now you've got trips out

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<v Speaker 2>there every day. And I did the math, and several

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<v Speaker 2>years ago it came out and I counted for vacation

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<v Speaker 2>for days that were hot, for days that I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>go over there, which weren't that many, but it came

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<v Speaker 2>out to well over three thousand, and so I know

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<v Speaker 2>I've made When you live right in the woods and

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<v Speaker 2>there's just a road between you and the woods that

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<v Speaker 2>they're in, it gives you that that's been the key

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<v Speaker 2>is the access, the daily access. Because they can watch

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<v Speaker 2>me while I'm outside right now from multiple angles. They

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<v Speaker 2>can see me when I'm in the house because I'll

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<v Speaker 2>often leave blinds open and woodn't on the back porch

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<v Speaker 2>one second the other morning, and the female called out,

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<v Speaker 2>And I'll be happy to give you all four calls

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<v Speaker 2>that I've heard from them, and it wouldn't surprise me,

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<v Speaker 2>Jeremiah seriously, if one of them called out during this show.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know if it would pick up on

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<v Speaker 2>the phone, but they have a tendency of calling out

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<v Speaker 2>when you at least expect it, and I've often thought

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<v Speaker 2>in the days leading up to this interview, how neat

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<v Speaker 2>it would be if they did do that during the show.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I had to say that would be a

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<v Speaker 1>first for this show. I don't think that that has

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<v Speaker 1>ever happened yet, so that that would be pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean it makes sense like if you're in

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<v Speaker 1>an area where stuff is going on and you're outside,

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<v Speaker 1>you're around the campfire right now, right, I believe you'd

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<v Speaker 1>said that right exactly. I mean, hey, it could very

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<v Speaker 1>well happen. But you know, do you mind, Sharon, was

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<v Speaker 1>there a certain situation that happened when things started to

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<v Speaker 1>cross over from you just taken walks in the woods

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<v Speaker 1>to okay, now now we've got something going on here?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Oh well, I feel sometimes emotions well up and

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<v Speaker 2>this is happening right now. It was I think about

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<v Speaker 2>two super moons ago, about twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen. It

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<v Speaker 2>was so bright. I'd taken the walk and decided to

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<v Speaker 2>go ahead and cross the road and walk into the woods.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a right of way in the woods because there's

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<v Speaker 2>a water line, and it's kind of it's mode down.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a small one lane road, but it's in

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<v Speaker 2>the woods, and it doesn't resemble a road. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>so they can get in there and get access to

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<v Speaker 2>the water if they ever have to, so they keep

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<v Speaker 2>it somewhat mode. And I'm walking across the road on

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<v Speaker 2>that right of way, and I'd gotten down about seventy

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<v Speaker 2>yards in the woods, but just at the edge of them,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm cruising along at a fast walk on top

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<v Speaker 2>of the world. I was working out of the home

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<v Speaker 2>at the time, doing voiceovers full time, and so all

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<v Speaker 2>I got to do each morning was walk the woods,

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<v Speaker 2>come back, go upstairs and do jobs. And I'd gotten

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<v Speaker 2>about seventy yards. And it's kind of funny when I

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<v Speaker 2>tell the story, because I heard the old obligatory branch

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<v Speaker 2>tree snap and it was abrupt, trebly, loud and only

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<v Speaker 2>about thirty yards from me, crack, and I'm walking along

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<v Speaker 2>and I didn't even break stride. I instantly knew. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>so they are out here, uh huh. And I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>break stride. I turned around, walked the other way with

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<v Speaker 2>a big grin on my face because I knew I

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<v Speaker 2>had passed the test. Being surprised like that, I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>freak out. I turned around. I immediately left because I

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<v Speaker 2>surprised him at the time, and he didn't expect me

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<v Speaker 2>to be there, you know, in the dark, in the woods,

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<v Speaker 2>just walking along. And so I got back and I

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<v Speaker 2>knew then it's like, okay, okay, they're out there now.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe they just use that to travel through. I still

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<v Speaker 2>don't think they lived there, but maybe they just traveled through.

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<v Speaker 2>And I happened to catch them when they were out

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<v Speaker 2>there in might been at an inconvenient time, and they gently,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, firmly, let me now stop and go

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<v Speaker 2>to the other way. And so that's what I did,

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<v Speaker 2>and I knew, And from that day on, I started

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<v Speaker 2>finding trees that were bent over the two paths that

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<v Speaker 2>I've made in the woods, and these were bent specifically

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<v Speaker 2>for me, and the pictures are on my x page,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'll be happy to give you that address. It's

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<v Speaker 2>East Texas Sasquatch and Texas is just TX, East TX Sasquatch.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've had videos that I've tried to take of

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<v Speaker 2>those trees, but those videos have gotten erased and I

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<v Speaker 2>can go into that later if you want. But the pictures,

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<v Speaker 2>they're okay with that. But my whole mo in this, Jeremiah,

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<v Speaker 2>is to develop a rapport with them, which means no

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<v Speaker 2>trail cams, no trying to sneak pictures of them and

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of thing. And so I've been okay with

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<v Speaker 2>taking pictures of trees they bend, but I make it

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<v Speaker 2>clear that I'm not trying to sneak or do anything,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm taking the long approach in this and to

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<v Speaker 2>get to know them instead of try to You know,

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<v Speaker 2>there are plenty of people out there who are uploading

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of good videos and I plugged them for that,

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<v Speaker 2>but I want to get to know them. And this

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<v Speaker 2>is a very deep spiritual walk for me, and so

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<v Speaker 2>it's paid off because of the way they always call

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<v Speaker 2>out to me. I never have to call out to them.

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<v Speaker 2>They always call out and let me know and that way,

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<v Speaker 2>I know that they want to communicate and they don't

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<v Speaker 2>feel badgered if I start hitting the woods calling out

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<v Speaker 2>with the calls that they use.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you say they call out to is this

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<v Speaker 1>something where it's an actual audible call you could hear.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it something that you're hearing inside your mind?

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's not any of the mind speaks stuff. It's

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<v Speaker 2>fascinating because at first I thought it was an owl.

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<v Speaker 2>And here's the kicker, Jeremiah. For about ten months, I

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<v Speaker 2>just thought it was an owl hooting in the trees

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<v Speaker 2>because I didn't know the awlcohols. And that's one thing

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<v Speaker 2>they say, if you get into this, learn the calls

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<v Speaker 2>of the animals in your area, because that one out

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<v Speaker 2>of place call will tip you off to it being them.

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<v Speaker 2>And so about ten months I'd be hooting back and

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<v Speaker 2>forth with what I thought was an ow, and I

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<v Speaker 2>always broke off contact quick because I'd like, oh that

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<v Speaker 2>it started happening, and because they can read your mind,

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<v Speaker 2>they started hooting at me. At times, owls don't hoot,

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<v Speaker 2>and so that's how that unfolded is once they broke

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<v Speaker 2>the stick of the branch, and let me know, not

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<v Speaker 2>right now. We know you, we know you're cool, but

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<v Speaker 2>not right now. Then they started coming to the edges

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<v Speaker 2>of my property and hooting. But with them knowing I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't catching on just yet, they ratcheted it up by hooting.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I said, at times, owls don't hoot. And I've

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<v Speaker 2>got some occurrences i'll share with you that are mind

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<v Speaker 2>blowing that made it very clear, and I knew by

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<v Speaker 2>the time happened who I was dealing with. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>makes it even better. But there are four hoots or

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<v Speaker 2>types of calls, and I really believe it's four individuals,

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<v Speaker 2>and that no one is doubling up on the calls,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're very polite and careful with the volume of

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<v Speaker 2>the call. And I'll go over them right now for you.

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<v Speaker 2>There's what I believe is a male, maybe one or

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<v Speaker 2>two females, maybe two males a female, And then there's

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<v Speaker 2>one that I've only heard three times in this whole rigmarole,

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<v Speaker 2>and his is the trippiest. But I'll go over the

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<v Speaker 2>one I hear most first. It's what i'd call a whot.

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<v Speaker 2>Then there's the second one that I hear the second most,

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<v Speaker 2>but I haven't heard in a while is the one

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<v Speaker 2>I've been communicating with the most lately, and I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to try not to get emotional about this. Is what

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<v Speaker 2>I believe is a female. Her call is like and

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<v Speaker 2>she hit me with that call not one second after

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<v Speaker 2>I got on the back porch the other morning and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm petting my big fifteen pound tomcat, feeding him, and

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<v Speaker 2>I point up to the moon in Venus and she

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<v Speaker 2>instantly and so it blows my mind how they do that.

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<v Speaker 2>The difference in the calls. The fourth one is what

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<v Speaker 2>I would call the loud cousin. I've only heard him

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<v Speaker 2>three times in this whole four years. I've heard him

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<v Speaker 2>calling out to me, and his is like it sounds

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<v Speaker 2>dominant and urgent. It's like And the reason I know

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<v Speaker 2>that their individual is those first two calls I gave

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<v Speaker 2>you one time. The way we hook through this whole

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<v Speaker 2>thing is whoever wants to call out calls out to me,

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<v Speaker 2>I call back. If there's another one they call out

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<v Speaker 2>with a different call, I repeat back to them. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>they pranked me one time, and it was really funny

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<v Speaker 2>because they both called out at the same time, as

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<v Speaker 2>if they looked at each other and said, okay, on one,

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<v Speaker 2>let's do it together and see if he can imitate that. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I can't imitate two calls at the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I just repeated them back to back rapidly

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<v Speaker 2>and laughed and said, you got me there. And so

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<v Speaker 2>there's a friendship. There's a friendly They know that I

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<v Speaker 2>know the scoop and that's why I get the liberties

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<v Speaker 2>that I get because I don't try to take advantage

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<v Speaker 2>of them, and so they come in and call out.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's that those are the four calls I've heard,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't know that they're the same ones. I'd

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<v Speaker 2>like to think they're different. I just don't know their

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<v Speaker 2>comings and goings. It's very unpredictable big so society.

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<v Speaker 1>Who will be right back after these messages? When you

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<v Speaker 1>hear these, is it the same volume as other owls

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<v Speaker 1>you might hear on the property or is there a

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<v Speaker 1>difference there?

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<v Speaker 2>It depends. I went out after I once it clicked

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<v Speaker 2>in my mind, I went upstairs and got on the

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<v Speaker 2>internet and I started googling owl sounds. I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>because I know there's an owl story. I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 2>about Robert Morgan, one of the early researchers in this

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<v Speaker 2>business who early on figured out about their psychic stuff

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<v Speaker 2>when nobody else wanted to talk about that. Robert was

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<v Speaker 2>on it, and that's why he said, get to know

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<v Speaker 2>the animal calls of your area, because that one out

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<v Speaker 2>of place calls will tip you off. And it happened

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<v Speaker 2>to him Washington State with the National director of the

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<v Speaker 2>Audubon Society, and they were out there listening to owl calls.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, none of the calls I found on

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<v Speaker 2>the net matched what I'm hearing here in East Texas.

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<v Speaker 2>There's not an owl caol out there that even comes close.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, Robert and his Audubon Society thrend are in

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<v Speaker 2>Washington State, they all of a sudden hear the call

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<v Speaker 2>of the snowy owl, and they're like, wait a minute.

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<v Speaker 2>That lives in the Arctic circle and it only makes

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<v Speaker 2>sounds in the summer during breeding season. Could it be

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<v Speaker 2>we're hearing a sasquatch that had that call handed down

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<v Speaker 2>over how many years when its ancestors crusted over the

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<v Speaker 2>bearing strait they would have been in range of that owl,

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<v Speaker 2>would have heard it sound, adopted it into its language,

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<v Speaker 2>and all those years later Robert and that Autubun Society

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<v Speaker 2>guy here that out of place calls. You see what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean? Well, I get emotion. How funky this can get?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, it can get extremely interesting, And yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>funky is a great way to put it. Actually, I myself,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a huge fan of Robert W. Morgan's work.

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<v Speaker 2>Especially to know you're aware that makes my day because

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<v Speaker 2>I have an invisible wall of fear story you may

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<v Speaker 2>have heard with a map dolls are involving trying to

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<v Speaker 2>take advantage of the Sasquatch and their psychic ability. But

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<v Speaker 2>do you want to hear that? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, I mean, my my favorite book to my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>big Foot book is his big Foot Observers Field Manual

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<v Speaker 1>is just a fantastic read.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, well, I'll just say you hit the nail

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<v Speaker 2>on the head. And that's what got me on the

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<v Speaker 2>road to understanding them in the late nineties is when

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<v Speaker 2>I got that Field Manual and I listened to his

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<v Speaker 2>tape about going to Ohio and over and over and over,

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<v Speaker 2>and I adopted his methods here in Ease, Texas. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's exactly why I'm getting the results that I'm getting.

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<v Speaker 2>And that Dowser story is they had a dowser who

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<v Speaker 2>had picked up is for the benefit of the listeners,

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<v Speaker 2>probably mostly who don't know this story, it's a mind blower.

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<v Speaker 2>But they had a dowser one night who had located

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<v Speaker 2>for sasquatch high top of bluff. They hadn't moved through hours,

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<v Speaker 2>so they felt they were sleeping and they wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>do a test, engage their fight or flight response, and

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<v Speaker 2>storm the hideout, so the dowser would stay back watch

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<v Speaker 2>and track their movements on a map while these guys

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<v Speaker 2>stormed the hideout. Well, the crazy thing is, as soon

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<v Speaker 2>as those four guys left, leaving the dowser behind in

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<v Speaker 2>their van for the forty five minute drive to the

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<v Speaker 2>drop off point at which they would storm up the hill.

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<v Speaker 2>Halfway through the field up the hill, they ran into

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<v Speaker 2>an invisible wall of fear. And as soon as they left,

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<v Speaker 2>the dawser tracked the female and the young men leaving

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<v Speaker 2>and was five miles beyond them by the time they arrived,

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<v Speaker 2>and the two males had swooped into defensive positions just

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<v Speaker 2>yards from where they ran into that invisible wall of fear.

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<v Speaker 2>And so, and you hear stuff like that, it's like

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<v Speaker 2>you can't say that's a coincidence. They clearly anticipated they

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<v Speaker 2>were coming, especially when the intent wasn't on the up

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<v Speaker 2>and up.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fascinating. So are you saying, does he have an

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<v Speaker 1>audio book version of his book?

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<v Speaker 2>He does. I still have the cassette and I've even

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<v Speaker 2>got a cassette of rod Moreheads Sierra recordings that he

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<v Speaker 2>had sent me one time and it's one of the

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<v Speaker 2>originals and that it really it taught me to understand

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<v Speaker 2>how to be in their area. The stories that he

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<v Speaker 2>has learned, especially from Native Americans, about how to act

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<v Speaker 2>around them in certain things like that. It helps you

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<v Speaker 2>because you have to ask yourself, what is your goal?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it to set up trail cams and try to

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<v Speaker 2>get that elusive video? And there was one on X

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<v Speaker 2>last week and excellent one and it was from Ease, Texas,

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<v Speaker 2>and it blew my mind. I just didn't know what town.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, dang, I'm from these Texas And this thing

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<v Speaker 2>had a big gray beard on it and you can

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<v Speaker 2>see eyes and those tons of hair, shaggy on coming

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<v Speaker 2>down on his face. And so you know, there are

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<v Speaker 2>good purposes and reasons for people to do that, but

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<v Speaker 2>I've chosen to get to know them because Robert's teachings

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<v Speaker 2>helped me understand that they can be approached if you're

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<v Speaker 2>on the up and up. And I'm one of those

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<v Speaker 2>deep thinkers soft heart loves animals, tailor made to get

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<v Speaker 2>to know them and to think that I can get

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<v Speaker 2>this going on in my own property here where I'll

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<v Speaker 2>walk out the door and don't have to want to

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<v Speaker 2>go camping anywhere to go bigfooting. I mean, I walk

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<v Speaker 2>out my door and do it, and that's you can't

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<v Speaker 2>put a price on that, and I love it absolutely. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go back to something you hit on

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<v Speaker 1>really quick. So do you have a Ron moorehead sent

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<v Speaker 1>you a cassette of his?

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<v Speaker 2>His?

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<v Speaker 1>Was this like a cassette that was being like I

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<v Speaker 1>think there was a cassette version of this year sound recordings.

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<v Speaker 2>Right right, and this without any of the narration. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just the recording of the creatures that they're interacting with

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<v Speaker 2>that night that that you hear on the official recording.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, so this is kind of like a special

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<v Speaker 1>thing that he sent to you, I think.

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<v Speaker 2>And the thing is I don't have a cassette player

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<v Speaker 2>and haven't had one in years. As a DJ, I

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<v Speaker 2>was around that kind of equipment my whole life. But

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have any of that here at home, and

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<v Speaker 2>so I can't play any of that. But he had

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<v Speaker 2>sent me that at one point. It might have been

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<v Speaker 2>a copy of you know, I don't think it was

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<v Speaker 2>the actual original, but it was probably a copy because

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<v Speaker 2>I remember it says Alberry on it in nineteen seventy two.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god. Yeah. Yeah, And so I just needed

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<v Speaker 2>to get a cassette player. I need to get you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to say get off my lazy backside.

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<v Speaker 2>I do a voice. So I've got two jobs every day,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's very scheduling. We all fighting that schedule scheduling demons,

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<v Speaker 2>and they will get you sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I get it. I get that very much. So

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<v Speaker 1>but now that's cool. So you've got a you've got

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<v Speaker 1>one of the the Alberry tapes. That's uh, that's pretty special,

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<v Speaker 1>Bill that that's that's really cool that you're you have that. Man. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a question that came to mind when you

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<v Speaker 1>were sharing the different calls. Why is why was it

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<v Speaker 1>so emotional to when you heard that female call?

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<v Speaker 2>It happens with any of them. And I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 2>what it is when I talk about them. I can

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<v Speaker 2>even think about them and imagine a scenario in my

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<v Speaker 2>head or think about what's going on here deep enough,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll start getting emotional. And I believe they have the ability.

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<v Speaker 2>You know how if you're standing next to somebody and

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<v Speaker 2>that maybe they're hurting. You know, I'm not hurting when

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<v Speaker 2>this happens, but somebody leans into them kind of gives

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<v Speaker 2>them a little hug from the side. I believe that

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<v Speaker 2>because they know me on the level that they know me,

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<v Speaker 2>there are times when I think about them, or when

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<v Speaker 2>I'm advocating on their behalf, that I'll get emotional, and

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<v Speaker 2>I believe it's them nudging me psychically or somehow, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's them saying thank you, we appreciate you. And it

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<v Speaker 2>manifests itself that way, because it's a feeling I've only

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<v Speaker 2>experienced one other time outside of the realm of dealing

418
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<v Speaker 2>with them, and that was in church, being touched by

419
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<v Speaker 2>the Holy Spirit. That it's a warm feeling. But there

420
00:24:13.039 --> 00:24:14.920
<v Speaker 2>are tears. Does that make sense?

421
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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely does very much, so I think there are. I

422
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<v Speaker 1>don't know if this will not every listener will probably

423
00:24:27.359 --> 00:24:33.240
<v Speaker 1>get this, but I get the Holy Spirit thing for sure.

424
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<v Speaker 1>I think there are times even when you can get

425
00:24:42.119 --> 00:24:45.839
<v Speaker 1>certain vibes about different types of people, or you can

426
00:24:45.880 --> 00:24:52.640
<v Speaker 1>be drawn two people. It's very it's very hard to explain,

427
00:24:53.400 --> 00:24:57.039
<v Speaker 1>but I do. I do get what you're talking about.

428
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<v Speaker 2>For sure. It's fascinating, it's being and I'm sensitive to

429
00:25:02.160 --> 00:25:05.519
<v Speaker 2>real you know. I pet and hold cats. I've held

430
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<v Speaker 2>my animals up in a way when I've been interacting

431
00:25:09.319 --> 00:25:11.559
<v Speaker 2>with them and pet on them and shown them who

432
00:25:11.599 --> 00:25:14.720
<v Speaker 2>they you know, said their name, and a couple of

433
00:25:14.839 --> 00:25:17.880
<v Speaker 2>days later, during an interaction, I'll hear me. I'll sound

434
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<v Speaker 2>in the middle of their normal hoots. Which that's a

435
00:25:23.640 --> 00:25:28.400
<v Speaker 2>whole nother story. I've got two other subjects involving a

436
00:25:28.519 --> 00:25:32.440
<v Speaker 2>rooster and something else. A noise that got a reaction

437
00:25:32.599 --> 00:25:35.559
<v Speaker 2>from them, and the rooster. You talk about, when did

438
00:25:35.559 --> 00:25:38.119
<v Speaker 2>it become obvious it was them. I knew before the

439
00:25:38.200 --> 00:25:41.720
<v Speaker 2>rooster incident that I was hooting back and forth with

440
00:25:41.799 --> 00:25:44.759
<v Speaker 2>them and their volume, by the way, their volume, They're

441
00:25:44.920 --> 00:25:48.680
<v Speaker 2>very polite about their volume. I can be in the

442
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<v Speaker 2>woods at five in the afternoon, like two days ago

443
00:25:51.279 --> 00:25:54.400
<v Speaker 2>and not even think that they're over there. Uh, And

444
00:25:54.440 --> 00:25:56.279
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, I hear the big the the

445
00:25:56.319 --> 00:25:59.720
<v Speaker 2>main male softly hoot at me, and we do it

446
00:25:59.759 --> 00:26:03.160
<v Speaker 2>for two or three minutes and it's over, and so

447
00:26:03.480 --> 00:26:06.440
<v Speaker 2>there's no rhyme or reason. You know. It could be day, night,

448
00:26:06.519 --> 00:26:10.079
<v Speaker 2>or whenever, and you just never know when you walk out.

449
00:26:10.160 --> 00:26:13.000
<v Speaker 2>It's sometimes I lose my place mentally because it's such

450
00:26:13.039 --> 00:26:15.680
<v Speaker 2>an expansive, deep subject. And I try to even be

451
00:26:15.720 --> 00:26:19.480
<v Speaker 2>in a professional public speaker, I still the only subject

452
00:26:19.480 --> 00:26:22.759
<v Speaker 2>that gets me a little confused at times is this one,

453
00:26:24.200 --> 00:26:28.079
<v Speaker 2>and because there's so much going on. But anyway, it's

454
00:26:28.839 --> 00:26:32.519
<v Speaker 2>one of those things where I feel them, I can tell.

455
00:26:33.200 --> 00:26:34.839
<v Speaker 2>I can also I've learned to tell, and I'll tell

456
00:26:34.880 --> 00:26:36.359
<v Speaker 2>you about the rooster in a minute. I've learned to

457
00:26:36.359 --> 00:26:38.519
<v Speaker 2>be able to tell when they're around, but choose not

458
00:26:38.640 --> 00:26:44.200
<v Speaker 2>to communicate because it is so darn quiet. I felt

459
00:26:44.240 --> 00:26:47.160
<v Speaker 2>the hair on my neck stand up, and I'll tell

460
00:26:47.160 --> 00:26:49.119
<v Speaker 2>you about that one too. I'll go ahead and do these.

461
00:26:49.160 --> 00:26:52.880
<v Speaker 2>They're very quick. It's not uncommon living in the country

462
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<v Speaker 2>for me to hear a rooster. When I get up

463
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<v Speaker 2>to five and go walk around and hear a rooster

464
00:26:57.720 --> 00:27:01.319
<v Speaker 2>in the distance and be in a goofy comic. I'll

465
00:27:01.359 --> 00:27:05.079
<v Speaker 2>crow back and one morning, I heard that dang rooster

466
00:27:05.200 --> 00:27:08.519
<v Speaker 2>from the ways off, and I crowed back at him

467
00:27:08.599 --> 00:27:12.839
<v Speaker 2>three times, loudly, not thinking anybody was around, not trying

468
00:27:12.839 --> 00:27:15.920
<v Speaker 2>to get a reaction, and that was it, and nothing happened.

469
00:27:15.920 --> 00:27:18.880
<v Speaker 2>I crowed three times and went about my day. But

470
00:27:19.039 --> 00:27:22.920
<v Speaker 2>that night I couldn't sleep for some reason. I got

471
00:27:23.000 --> 00:27:25.640
<v Speaker 2>up at twelve o'clock twelve fifteen. I came out and

472
00:27:25.640 --> 00:27:29.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm looking up at the moon, and from just inside

473
00:27:29.839 --> 00:27:35.400
<v Speaker 2>the woods over across the road, a rooster crow came

474
00:27:36.319 --> 00:27:39.200
<v Speaker 2>and it was pretty loud, and it was one of

475
00:27:39.240 --> 00:27:43.240
<v Speaker 2>those sasquatches who had heard me that morning and decided

476
00:27:43.279 --> 00:27:46.559
<v Speaker 2>to blow my mind because when I stepped out, I

477
00:27:46.599 --> 00:27:48.240
<v Speaker 2>couldn't have known he was going to do that. And

478
00:27:48.279 --> 00:27:51.160
<v Speaker 2>we both know roosters don't crow at twelve point fifteen,

479
00:27:52.039 --> 00:27:54.359
<v Speaker 2>and so that thing crowed at me, and I spun around,

480
00:27:54.519 --> 00:27:57.839
<v Speaker 2>started laughing, pointed over to the woods and said, Aha,

481
00:27:57.880 --> 00:28:02.559
<v Speaker 2>it's you. I said, you got me there, buddy. And

482
00:28:02.599 --> 00:28:04.839
<v Speaker 2>so they enjoy the fact that I don't freak out,

483
00:28:04.920 --> 00:28:07.039
<v Speaker 2>and they do things like that. I mean, how would

484
00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:10.599
<v Speaker 2>you interpret that, Jeremiah.

485
00:28:10.640 --> 00:28:14.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's there's I don't think you can logically

486
00:28:15.240 --> 00:28:19.759
<v Speaker 1>interpret that why is there a rooster at that time

487
00:28:19.799 --> 00:28:22.680
<v Speaker 1>of day in that area? That makes no sense.

488
00:28:24.240 --> 00:28:26.559
<v Speaker 2>No, And that's what my wife said, who doesn't really

489
00:28:26.680 --> 00:28:29.839
<v Speaker 2>enjoy the subject like I do. She said, I believe it.

490
00:28:29.880 --> 00:28:32.640
<v Speaker 2>That's too crazy. And I'll tell you what happened from

491
00:28:32.680 --> 00:28:35.880
<v Speaker 2>over in the same place, and this one, this one

492
00:28:35.920 --> 00:28:38.640
<v Speaker 2>is probably I don't know that you'll ever hear of

493
00:28:38.720 --> 00:28:41.759
<v Speaker 2>something like this again, no matter how long you research

494
00:28:41.839 --> 00:28:44.039
<v Speaker 2>this subject. And then I'll get to the hair on my neck.

495
00:28:45.279 --> 00:28:48.519
<v Speaker 2>I was walking out there by the fence in just

496
00:28:48.640 --> 00:28:52.559
<v Speaker 2>the same spot where I'd heard the rooster and repeated it,

497
00:28:52.599 --> 00:28:55.519
<v Speaker 2>but it wasn't any time near it. It was months later.

498
00:28:56.480 --> 00:29:00.559
<v Speaker 2>It was daylight, probably about six o'clock April may Ease,

499
00:29:00.640 --> 00:29:05.519
<v Speaker 2>Texas still daylight left. And the only reason I'm going

500
00:29:05.559 --> 00:29:07.319
<v Speaker 2>to tell you the story is because I got a

501
00:29:07.359 --> 00:29:12.000
<v Speaker 2>sasquatch to react to what I did. Otherwise I would

502
00:29:12.000 --> 00:29:14.319
<v Speaker 2>never bring it up because it could be embarrassing to me,

503
00:29:14.440 --> 00:29:17.559
<v Speaker 2>it could be gross to others. But I did what

504
00:29:17.640 --> 00:29:19.880
<v Speaker 2>any normal person would do if they were out by

505
00:29:19.880 --> 00:29:22.119
<v Speaker 2>a fence in the country, near a two lane road

506
00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:27.240
<v Speaker 2>with nobody around. I had to cut one and because

507
00:29:27.279 --> 00:29:30.599
<v Speaker 2>it was so quiet, like I was telling you earlier

508
00:29:31.559 --> 00:29:34.359
<v Speaker 2>about I can tell when they're around because it's so quiet.

509
00:29:34.440 --> 00:29:37.759
<v Speaker 2>I had few seconds to think. I wonder if I

510
00:29:37.920 --> 00:29:40.680
<v Speaker 2>laugh after doing this, if I can get a reaction

511
00:29:40.839 --> 00:29:44.200
<v Speaker 2>from behind me, because I was facing the open field

512
00:29:44.279 --> 00:29:48.039
<v Speaker 2>next to our house with my back to the woods. Well,

513
00:29:48.039 --> 00:29:51.440
<v Speaker 2>lo and behold, I did that. I cut it, and

514
00:29:51.480 --> 00:29:56.759
<v Speaker 2>then I went and I know this sounds bizarre and crazy,

515
00:29:56.759 --> 00:29:59.640
<v Speaker 2>but I'm a goofy person with a goofy sense of humor.

516
00:30:00.160 --> 00:30:03.759
<v Speaker 2>Bit warped, and within two seconds from behind me in

517
00:30:03.799 --> 00:30:09.279
<v Speaker 2>the woods, I heard oo.

518
00:30:08.240 --> 00:30:11.039
<v Speaker 1>Big for society. Who will be right back after these messages?

519
00:30:29.880 --> 00:30:33.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm being serious. I know it's gross, but everybody does it.

520
00:30:33.680 --> 00:30:35.920
<v Speaker 2>There's not one person listening to this show who wouldn't

521
00:30:35.960 --> 00:30:37.599
<v Speaker 2>be standing by a fence and if they had to

522
00:30:37.640 --> 00:30:41.599
<v Speaker 2>do that, would do that. I'm telling you only because

523
00:30:41.680 --> 00:30:44.000
<v Speaker 2>I got a reaction to it.

524
00:30:44.599 --> 00:30:49.920
<v Speaker 1>No kidding, that's wild, Thank goodness.

525
00:30:49.640 --> 00:30:53.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you. I'm telling you, man, I don't if

526
00:30:53.319 --> 00:30:55.359
<v Speaker 2>you could do this for thirty more years and you

527
00:30:55.400 --> 00:30:58.160
<v Speaker 2>may not have one person. Now here's the Before I

528
00:30:58.200 --> 00:31:00.480
<v Speaker 2>get off on that, let me ask you this. Here's

529
00:31:00.519 --> 00:31:02.880
<v Speaker 2>the first thing I thought afterwards. I said okay, because

530
00:31:02.880 --> 00:31:05.119
<v Speaker 2>again I'm already aware that they can read your mind.

531
00:31:05.839 --> 00:31:09.000
<v Speaker 2>So my first thought is either I got him to

532
00:31:09.079 --> 00:31:12.119
<v Speaker 2>do what I wanted him to do for only a second,

533
00:31:12.799 --> 00:31:16.279
<v Speaker 2>or he read my mind, saw that thought and said, buddy,

534
00:31:16.319 --> 00:31:17.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to give you the response you want and

535
00:31:17.880 --> 00:31:19.880
<v Speaker 2>we'll see what your little Texas asked things of that.

536
00:31:24.200 --> 00:31:27.279
<v Speaker 2>And so I believe he read my mind and gave

537
00:31:27.319 --> 00:31:29.319
<v Speaker 2>me the answer I was looking for because I wanted

538
00:31:29.319 --> 00:31:31.680
<v Speaker 2>a reaction to what I did, and I know they

539
00:31:31.720 --> 00:31:34.319
<v Speaker 2>do that too, And if they're half, if they share

540
00:31:34.400 --> 00:31:37.680
<v Speaker 2>half of our DNA, then he should appreciate and laugh

541
00:31:37.720 --> 00:31:38.400
<v Speaker 2>at it. Right.

542
00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:48.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's that's interesting stuff. Are your neighbors experiencing things

543
00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:52.319
<v Speaker 1>as well? Have you ever had conversations with them about it?

544
00:31:53.559 --> 00:31:55.720
<v Speaker 2>I was out there with my neighbor one night, the

545
00:31:55.799 --> 00:31:59.240
<v Speaker 2>coyotes were going off. I had my infrared glasses. I

546
00:31:59.319 --> 00:32:01.400
<v Speaker 2>was showing them off to Luke. We were looking at

547
00:32:01.400 --> 00:32:03.400
<v Speaker 2>cars go by, and I said, if you'll notice on

548
00:32:03.480 --> 00:32:05.880
<v Speaker 2>these cars, it doesn't matter if their lights are red

549
00:32:05.920 --> 00:32:08.279
<v Speaker 2>on the back, it'll show white through the glasses. And

550
00:32:08.319 --> 00:32:11.519
<v Speaker 2>I'd handed it to them. And by the way, since

551
00:32:11.559 --> 00:32:14.400
<v Speaker 2>interactions began with them four years ago. I've only heard

552
00:32:14.480 --> 00:32:17.720
<v Speaker 2>coyotes once and about ten days ago, and there is

553
00:32:17.799 --> 00:32:20.279
<v Speaker 2>development going on in the area. But I think I

554
00:32:20.319 --> 00:32:23.960
<v Speaker 2>know who ran them off. But Luke was looking through

555
00:32:23.960 --> 00:32:26.960
<v Speaker 2>the glasses were on his property, and all of a sudden,

556
00:32:27.000 --> 00:32:29.240
<v Speaker 2>the coats are yipping and yapping and it's like working

557
00:32:29.279 --> 00:32:32.519
<v Speaker 2>themselves up, and some sound came over the top of them,

558
00:32:32.519 --> 00:32:36.559
<v Speaker 2>and he stopped and said, what was that. I said, Luke,

559
00:32:36.599 --> 00:32:38.960
<v Speaker 2>it's him. I've been telling you. I said, they're out

560
00:32:39.000 --> 00:32:42.119
<v Speaker 2>here because I would tell him about my escapades, not

561
00:32:42.279 --> 00:32:45.480
<v Speaker 2>too much, because I hear them. They hoot at me,

562
00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:47.839
<v Speaker 2>both of them did when we had a cold snap

563
00:32:49.279 --> 00:32:51.119
<v Speaker 2>ten twelve days ago, and I went to feed his

564
00:32:51.200 --> 00:32:53.880
<v Speaker 2>two huge dogs and two sasquatches hoo did at me

565
00:32:53.880 --> 00:32:56.640
<v Speaker 2>from within one hundred feet of his property. So they

566
00:32:56.720 --> 00:32:59.279
<v Speaker 2>hunkered down over there. He's got twenty six acres, I've

567
00:32:59.279 --> 00:33:02.000
<v Speaker 2>got two. And I don't tell him everything, so I

568
00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:03.839
<v Speaker 2>don't want to scare him. But he heard him that

569
00:33:04.039 --> 00:33:10.039
<v Speaker 2>night and knows. And so I can't talk to anybody

570
00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:12.559
<v Speaker 2>around here about it. Nobody wants to talk about it.

571
00:33:12.880 --> 00:33:16.519
<v Speaker 2>I can't. There's not one person in my existence that

572
00:33:16.559 --> 00:33:18.799
<v Speaker 2>I can talk to. This about and get any sense

573
00:33:18.839 --> 00:33:22.279
<v Speaker 2>of satisfaction from them while discussing it.

574
00:33:26.119 --> 00:33:29.920
<v Speaker 1>How close do you think you've been able to get

575
00:33:30.359 --> 00:33:34.519
<v Speaker 1>to these sasquatch on your property?

576
00:33:35.160 --> 00:33:37.759
<v Speaker 2>The breaking of that branch when I was in the

577
00:33:37.759 --> 00:33:40.880
<v Speaker 2>woods under that supermoon that was about thirty yards but

578
00:33:41.000 --> 00:33:43.960
<v Speaker 2>on my property. I think one was on the property

579
00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:47.200
<v Speaker 2>one night. Because this incident is really bizarre. You know,

580
00:33:47.240 --> 00:33:49.599
<v Speaker 2>you've heard about that invisible wall of fear, how they

581
00:33:49.640 --> 00:33:52.839
<v Speaker 2>can project fear or freeze you in your tracks if

582
00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:56.079
<v Speaker 2>need be. I was interacting with him on one side

583
00:33:56.079 --> 00:33:59.880
<v Speaker 2>of the house, normal fun interaction, and I just decided

584
00:33:59.880 --> 00:34:02.640
<v Speaker 2>to changed my location and I just moved, not sneaking

585
00:34:02.720 --> 00:34:05.359
<v Speaker 2>or anything. I just moved from the left side of

586
00:34:05.359 --> 00:34:08.159
<v Speaker 2>the house, and a horseshoe maneuver came around the back

587
00:34:08.199 --> 00:34:10.920
<v Speaker 2>to the right side. And as I came around the

588
00:34:11.000 --> 00:34:14.519
<v Speaker 2>house and came around the corner, I got that dog

589
00:34:14.599 --> 00:34:17.440
<v Speaker 2>gone hair on the neck of my back, hair on

590
00:34:17.480 --> 00:34:20.599
<v Speaker 2>the back of my neck sticking up feeling, and I

591
00:34:20.679 --> 00:34:23.599
<v Speaker 2>walked through it. It wasn't the invisible wall of fear,

592
00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:26.519
<v Speaker 2>but I walked through it, but I noted it. I'm like, damn,

593
00:34:26.840 --> 00:34:30.400
<v Speaker 2>what's that? And I kept walking and It only lasted

594
00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:33.760
<v Speaker 2>like a second and a half, and I wrecked my

595
00:34:33.880 --> 00:34:35.760
<v Speaker 2>brain to try to think what it was. And the

596
00:34:35.800 --> 00:34:38.119
<v Speaker 2>only thing I can think is one might have hopped

597
00:34:38.119 --> 00:34:42.360
<v Speaker 2>a fence or already been one on the property while

598
00:34:42.440 --> 00:34:46.440
<v Speaker 2>interacting with another, and he was maybe laying down somewhere,

599
00:34:46.440 --> 00:34:48.719
<v Speaker 2>and when I did the horseshoe thing and came around,

600
00:34:48.840 --> 00:34:51.760
<v Speaker 2>got close enough that maybe he was fearful and I

601
00:34:51.840 --> 00:34:54.400
<v Speaker 2>was picking up on that, and he thoughts you have

602
00:34:54.519 --> 00:34:56.239
<v Speaker 2>on it. I'd be happy to hear. But that's the

603
00:34:56.280 --> 00:34:58.719
<v Speaker 2>only thing I can think. And it's the only time

604
00:34:58.880 --> 00:35:02.000
<v Speaker 2>anything like that has ever happened with them, because it's

605
00:35:02.039 --> 00:35:04.280
<v Speaker 2>all been on the up and up kind of prankster

606
00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:06.119
<v Speaker 2>and funny as I've described to you.

607
00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:12.599
<v Speaker 1>That's really interesting. But I mean when you have that

608
00:35:12.599 --> 00:35:16.000
<v Speaker 1>that reaction, like the hair on the back of your

609
00:35:16.199 --> 00:35:19.559
<v Speaker 1>neck going up, I mean that something is going on

610
00:35:19.840 --> 00:35:22.719
<v Speaker 1>for sure. I mean from what I've heard, I mean,

611
00:35:23.800 --> 00:35:28.679
<v Speaker 1>other people have have had that happen when they're in areas,

612
00:35:29.320 --> 00:35:34.599
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, you probably had something going on there. Have

613
00:35:34.679 --> 00:35:38.519
<v Speaker 1>you been able to have any any visuals at all

614
00:35:39.119 --> 00:35:40.039
<v Speaker 1>in your area?

615
00:35:40.199 --> 00:35:43.320
<v Speaker 2>No? And that's no, And that's the interesting thing. And

616
00:35:43.400 --> 00:35:47.440
<v Speaker 2>I keep asking myself. We're four years into communicating back

617
00:35:47.480 --> 00:35:52.000
<v Speaker 2>and forth and I've gone out there and transmitted thoughts

618
00:35:52.079 --> 00:35:54.440
<v Speaker 2>to them, and in the middle of interacting with them,

619
00:35:54.440 --> 00:35:58.199
<v Speaker 2>instead of hooting back, I would give a thought, send

620
00:35:58.239 --> 00:36:01.440
<v Speaker 2>a thought, and get an instant reaction when the thought

621
00:36:01.599 --> 00:36:04.960
<v Speaker 2>was over. And that told me is like, Okay, maybe

622
00:36:05.000 --> 00:36:09.119
<v Speaker 2>we have one way communication. But a big sixty four

623
00:36:09.159 --> 00:36:14.800
<v Speaker 2>dollars question is at what point will they show themselves?

624
00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:19.760
<v Speaker 3>And I'm not quite sure how to answer that other

625
00:36:19.840 --> 00:36:22.400
<v Speaker 3>than to say it will be on their time, and

626
00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:26.440
<v Speaker 3>considering it took as many trips as it did into

627
00:36:26.480 --> 00:36:28.239
<v Speaker 3>the woods over that many years.

628
00:36:29.719 --> 00:36:32.280
<v Speaker 2>Every tribe is different. You might hear of somebody who

629
00:36:32.360 --> 00:36:34.639
<v Speaker 2>is seeing them and they've only been around six to

630
00:36:34.679 --> 00:36:38.719
<v Speaker 2>eight months. And I think as researchers, are people interested

631
00:36:38.760 --> 00:36:42.239
<v Speaker 2>in the subject resist the urge to look over at

632
00:36:42.239 --> 00:36:45.480
<v Speaker 2>someone else and be jealous or wonder, well, why am

633
00:36:45.519 --> 00:36:48.000
<v Speaker 2>I not getting action. I've been this for this song

634
00:36:48.079 --> 00:36:52.039
<v Speaker 2>and doing all this, and it's everything's different, and each

635
00:36:52.079 --> 00:36:56.000
<v Speaker 2>situation is different, and I'm prepared to go my whole

636
00:36:56.039 --> 00:36:58.800
<v Speaker 2>existence and never see them and just continue what we're doing,

637
00:36:58.840 --> 00:37:02.199
<v Speaker 2>because that in and itself is so enriching. So imagine

638
00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:04.840
<v Speaker 2>the visual and I've wondered what color they look like,

639
00:37:05.239 --> 00:37:07.360
<v Speaker 2>because when you speak to them as often as I do,

640
00:37:07.760 --> 00:37:11.239
<v Speaker 2>I've sung to them Jeremiah, I've sung Battle City of

641
00:37:11.280 --> 00:37:14.239
<v Speaker 2>New Orleans, Arlo Guthrie, you know, things like that, the

642
00:37:14.280 --> 00:37:16.960
<v Speaker 2>good Morning to You song. I've sung to them, played

643
00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:20.719
<v Speaker 2>my bass guitar outside and so they know me. I

644
00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:26.840
<v Speaker 2>just think they are very They're just stingy with their

645
00:37:27.159 --> 00:37:29.679
<v Speaker 2>existence like that, and that's how they're able to survive.

646
00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:32.320
<v Speaker 2>And at some point they'll show themselves. I just don't know.

647
00:37:32.320 --> 00:37:36.519
<v Speaker 1>When you know, I've been in a situation out in

648
00:37:36.599 --> 00:37:44.239
<v Speaker 1>Oregon where a individual would play guitar in the area

649
00:37:44.320 --> 00:37:48.000
<v Speaker 1>that they were and would get a reaction when you

650
00:37:48.320 --> 00:37:52.559
<v Speaker 1>were doing your singing, your guitar playing, etc. Did that

651
00:37:52.679 --> 00:37:59.199
<v Speaker 1>lead to any interaction back from them at all in anyway?

652
00:37:59.320 --> 00:38:03.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, What they do is they'll keep hooting back and

653
00:38:03.239 --> 00:38:07.960
<v Speaker 2>just doing or if it's the female making that cut sound,

654
00:38:08.599 --> 00:38:11.679
<v Speaker 2>they just keep doing that over and over. And what

655
00:38:11.719 --> 00:38:14.000
<v Speaker 2>it does is the way it works is I walk

656
00:38:14.039 --> 00:38:16.920
<v Speaker 2>out I hear it, I'll be like, oh, it's good

657
00:38:17.000 --> 00:38:18.880
<v Speaker 2>to hear from you. How are you tonight? And then

658
00:38:18.920 --> 00:38:24.000
<v Speaker 2>I immediately repeat the hoot that I heard, and then

659
00:38:24.280 --> 00:38:28.559
<v Speaker 2>they'll go, they'll hoot. Maybe a partner, if there is

660
00:38:28.679 --> 00:38:30.880
<v Speaker 2>one there, we'll hoot, and then I go. It's almost

661
00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:33.440
<v Speaker 2>think of it as tennis or ping pong. It goes

662
00:38:33.480 --> 00:38:37.400
<v Speaker 2>back and forth, but there's usually ten to fifteen seconds

663
00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:40.760
<v Speaker 2>between hoots, so it gives me time to do things.

664
00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:43.199
<v Speaker 2>Is it's not rapid back and forth. There's a nice

665
00:38:43.199 --> 00:38:46.840
<v Speaker 2>little pause there, and it gives me time to experiment

666
00:38:46.880 --> 00:38:50.559
<v Speaker 2>with thoughts and also not to just hoop back at them,

667
00:38:50.559 --> 00:38:52.800
<v Speaker 2>but to make other noises, because I like to make

668
00:38:52.840 --> 00:38:57.159
<v Speaker 2>goofy noises, like I'll take my lips together and squeeze

669
00:38:57.159 --> 00:38:58.599
<v Speaker 2>air out of it and make it sound like a

670
00:38:58.639 --> 00:39:03.480
<v Speaker 2>mouse and go and you know, do things like that

671
00:39:03.559 --> 00:39:06.679
<v Speaker 2>and laugh. And I don't get reactions. They never they

672
00:39:06.719 --> 00:39:11.079
<v Speaker 2>never break character, so to speak.

673
00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:21.440
<v Speaker 1>That's awesome. Wow, have you well, it sounds like your

674
00:39:21.440 --> 00:39:26.639
<v Speaker 1>interactions are pretty positive. Have Have there ever been any

675
00:39:26.679 --> 00:39:34.199
<v Speaker 1>instances where there's been anything negative or you felt maybe

676
00:39:34.360 --> 00:39:38.800
<v Speaker 1>like you were in any type of danger on your property.

677
00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:44.679
<v Speaker 2>No, not at all. I've had a skirmish with coyotes

678
00:39:45.079 --> 00:39:48.599
<v Speaker 2>and three dogs one time, and I've had a standoff.

679
00:39:48.760 --> 00:39:52.639
<v Speaker 2>Not a standoff is about to attack, but had two

680
00:39:52.800 --> 00:39:56.320
<v Speaker 2>encounters with wild pigs, and and that's been it. There's

681
00:39:56.400 --> 00:40:00.719
<v Speaker 2>never what I believe. And I've taken a look myself

682
00:40:00.760 --> 00:40:03.760
<v Speaker 2>and thought, what are the ingredients that you have that

683
00:40:03.880 --> 00:40:08.760
<v Speaker 2>make this possible? And I'll start with I don't own

684
00:40:08.880 --> 00:40:10.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't even own a gun. I'm not against them,

685
00:40:11.000 --> 00:40:12.920
<v Speaker 2>and I actually need one in the country for that.

686
00:40:13.119 --> 00:40:15.320
<v Speaker 2>You know, if there's a once in a lifetime home invasion,

687
00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:19.559
<v Speaker 2>there's no excuse not to have one. But they never

688
00:40:19.639 --> 00:40:22.559
<v Speaker 2>hear gunshots on the property and never will. When I

689
00:40:22.599 --> 00:40:25.440
<v Speaker 2>get one, I'll go elsewhere to get to know it.

690
00:40:25.480 --> 00:40:32.280
<v Speaker 2>But it's it's no gun's soft heart, goofy, silly, unafraid.

691
00:40:32.800 --> 00:40:35.000
<v Speaker 2>I am unafraid. When I walk in the woods, I

692
00:40:35.000 --> 00:40:37.840
<v Speaker 2>don't walk like I own them, but I walk like

693
00:40:38.280 --> 00:40:43.920
<v Speaker 2>a curious visitor who is not going to harm anyone.

694
00:40:44.119 --> 00:40:46.320
<v Speaker 2>The vibe that I give off that they'll pick up

695
00:40:46.320 --> 00:40:51.960
<v Speaker 2>on will take care of that. And the desire to

696
00:40:51.960 --> 00:40:54.559
<v Speaker 2>get to know them I mean. And I sent you

697
00:40:54.599 --> 00:40:58.079
<v Speaker 2>a document of telepathic conversation that a woman who's no

698
00:40:58.159 --> 00:41:01.400
<v Speaker 2>longer with us had with than in exchange for me

699
00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:05.519
<v Speaker 2>putting her on my podcast. When I had it, I

700
00:41:05.599 --> 00:41:07.599
<v Speaker 2>was kind to her when others would make fun of

701
00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:11.800
<v Speaker 2>her ability to or claim to speak with them telepathically,

702
00:41:12.079 --> 00:41:14.360
<v Speaker 2>and I let her come on my show and say

703
00:41:14.360 --> 00:41:17.079
<v Speaker 2>what she had to say. In response, she would let

704
00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:20.559
<v Speaker 2>me ask them questions via you know, I would think

705
00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:23.639
<v Speaker 2>up questions given to her and she'd come back with answers.

706
00:41:23.679 --> 00:41:26.320
<v Speaker 2>And one of those sessions, they said I had lived

707
00:41:26.360 --> 00:41:29.639
<v Speaker 2>with them in the old days as a brown one

708
00:41:30.039 --> 00:41:34.039
<v Speaker 2>indicating Native American, and that blew my mind because I

709
00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:37.079
<v Speaker 2>grew up in church. I believe in God, and so

710
00:41:37.199 --> 00:41:39.159
<v Speaker 2>when you get hit with that, what in the world

711
00:41:39.159 --> 00:41:42.760
<v Speaker 2>do you do with it? And so I didn't discard it,

712
00:41:42.840 --> 00:41:45.199
<v Speaker 2>because if you're going to listen to them say things

713
00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:48.039
<v Speaker 2>you can't like someone reading the Bible, pick and choose

714
00:41:48.079 --> 00:41:50.320
<v Speaker 2>what you're going to believe. And so it's left me

715
00:41:51.280 --> 00:41:54.360
<v Speaker 2>just kind of straddling, knowing that the Lord knows my

716
00:41:54.480 --> 00:41:58.239
<v Speaker 2>heart and is okay with me wanting to seek the truth.

717
00:41:58.360 --> 00:42:02.119
<v Speaker 2>But that's why there's no danger, because there could be

718
00:42:02.159 --> 00:42:04.440
<v Speaker 2>a bad tribe. And if there was a bad tribe

719
00:42:04.440 --> 00:42:07.119
<v Speaker 2>around here, I would have found out early on, and

720
00:42:07.159 --> 00:42:09.480
<v Speaker 2>I would just never go over there. And I'll tell

721
00:42:09.480 --> 00:42:12.000
<v Speaker 2>you a quick story that I remember reading off the

722
00:42:12.039 --> 00:42:15.639
<v Speaker 2>bfro site, and that was of a person who had

723
00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:19.559
<v Speaker 2>activity going on in both directions of his house. In

724
00:42:19.639 --> 00:42:22.960
<v Speaker 2>one direction, they were friendly. In the other direction, they weren't.

725
00:42:23.199 --> 00:42:26.079
<v Speaker 2>And that doesn't mean they were just camped out twenty

726
00:42:26.079 --> 00:42:28.920
<v Speaker 2>feet from his fence. On either side. It was pretty

727
00:42:28.960 --> 00:42:31.559
<v Speaker 2>good ways in either direction. But dog on it if

728
00:42:31.599 --> 00:42:35.199
<v Speaker 2>he didn't find his dog's skull on their picnic table

729
00:42:35.280 --> 00:42:38.039
<v Speaker 2>one day and he knew that it was that mean

730
00:42:38.280 --> 00:42:41.079
<v Speaker 2>tribe that had gotten his dog, probably saw him chase

731
00:42:41.480 --> 00:42:44.039
<v Speaker 2>after him, and they skinned him and put the damn

732
00:42:44.559 --> 00:42:47.599
<v Speaker 2>head the skull of the dog on the picnic table.

733
00:42:48.119 --> 00:42:51.159
<v Speaker 2>And so, you know, imagine good tribe one way, mean

734
00:42:51.239 --> 00:42:54.159
<v Speaker 2>tribe another way. And what makes them that way? I

735
00:42:54.199 --> 00:42:56.559
<v Speaker 2>don't know. You know, what if they had a bad reaction,

736
00:42:56.679 --> 00:42:59.400
<v Speaker 2>What if one of their family members got poisoned by something,

737
00:42:59.480 --> 00:43:02.079
<v Speaker 2>or you just shot by some you know, you know,

738
00:43:02.159 --> 00:43:05.440
<v Speaker 2>there's we don't know. But that's one of the burning

739
00:43:05.519 --> 00:43:08.719
<v Speaker 2>questions is why are they I think I saw a

740
00:43:08.760 --> 00:43:11.400
<v Speaker 2>promo for one of your previous guests who had talked

741
00:43:11.440 --> 00:43:14.280
<v Speaker 2>about them being vicious, and it got me to wonder

742
00:43:14.679 --> 00:43:18.000
<v Speaker 2>why that is, What makes that be the case. What

743
00:43:18.039 --> 00:43:20.639
<v Speaker 2>are your thoughts?

744
00:43:22.119 --> 00:43:24.480
<v Speaker 1>I think that a lot of it has to do

745
00:43:24.800 --> 00:43:31.639
<v Speaker 1>with the area that they're in or the way they're

746
00:43:31.639 --> 00:43:36.719
<v Speaker 1>being treated. I mean, you have a situation Southeast Oklahoma.

747
00:43:37.480 --> 00:43:39.360
<v Speaker 1>I have to be very careful how I say that.

748
00:43:39.400 --> 00:43:44.000
<v Speaker 1>Actually the people are great, but down there you get

749
00:43:44.039 --> 00:43:52.559
<v Speaker 1>a lot of reports of very aggressive encounters. And Yeah,

750
00:43:52.719 --> 00:43:55.119
<v Speaker 1>I think if you if you put any type of

751
00:43:55.360 --> 00:43:59.599
<v Speaker 1>creature in a corner enough times, they're going to act

752
00:43:59.719 --> 00:44:04.000
<v Speaker 1>in a certain way. And if you're in a situation

753
00:44:04.239 --> 00:44:07.360
<v Speaker 1>where like yourself, where you you know, you're treating them

754
00:44:07.400 --> 00:44:11.760
<v Speaker 1>with respect and you're not shooting off guns, I think

755
00:44:11.760 --> 00:44:15.800
<v Speaker 1>you're going to get a totally different situation and back

756
00:44:15.800 --> 00:44:19.840
<v Speaker 1>and forth with them. So that's my thoughts on that.

757
00:44:20.719 --> 00:44:25.880
<v Speaker 1>But have you ever had them where or anything that

758
00:44:25.960 --> 00:44:28.840
<v Speaker 1>has happened up close to your house or even inside

759
00:44:28.840 --> 00:44:29.280
<v Speaker 1>your house?

760
00:44:31.119 --> 00:44:36.039
<v Speaker 2>No, I've not had anything like that. I can't. I'll

761
00:44:36.039 --> 00:44:39.000
<v Speaker 2>tell you going back to the rooster and when that

762
00:44:39.039 --> 00:44:44.480
<v Speaker 2>Sasquatch hit me with that rooster call, I've read in

763
00:44:44.800 --> 00:44:47.519
<v Speaker 2>that document that I sent you in the Sasquatch message

764
00:44:47.519 --> 00:44:51.119
<v Speaker 2>to humanity that they can communicate and appear in your dreams.

765
00:44:51.679 --> 00:44:54.679
<v Speaker 2>And it got me to thinking, how do I know

766
00:44:54.760 --> 00:44:57.760
<v Speaker 2>that sasquatch didn't come to me in my dream and say,

767
00:44:57.960 --> 00:45:00.280
<v Speaker 2>go out to your driveway, I have a surprise eyes

768
00:45:00.360 --> 00:45:03.360
<v Speaker 2>for you, because I have no recollection of that at all.

769
00:45:03.719 --> 00:45:06.119
<v Speaker 2>I just knew it's like one of those rare, rare

770
00:45:06.199 --> 00:45:08.800
<v Speaker 2>nights I couldn't go to bed, and I got up

771
00:45:08.800 --> 00:45:09.480
<v Speaker 2>and walked.

772
00:45:09.239 --> 00:45:13.280
<v Speaker 1>Out Big for society will be right back after these messages.

773
00:45:29.440 --> 00:45:34.239
<v Speaker 2>But I just as far as I'm trying not to

774
00:45:34.239 --> 00:45:40.199
<v Speaker 2>lose my train of thought here, what was your What

775
00:45:40.239 --> 00:45:42.000
<v Speaker 2>were you saying, Jeremiah, Well.

776
00:45:41.880 --> 00:45:45.920
<v Speaker 1>I was just curious. You know, sometimes people report that

777
00:45:46.280 --> 00:45:50.000
<v Speaker 1>they on their property. It's not just stuff that's happening

778
00:45:50.159 --> 00:45:55.000
<v Speaker 1>in the woods, but it starts to then weird things

779
00:45:55.039 --> 00:45:57.280
<v Speaker 1>start to happen inside their house as well.

780
00:45:58.719 --> 00:46:01.800
<v Speaker 2>Nothing like that, not indoors, outdoors. And the point I

781
00:46:01.840 --> 00:46:03.800
<v Speaker 2>was going to make when you asked that just a

782
00:46:03.840 --> 00:46:07.719
<v Speaker 2>minute ago the first time. I've also never seen carcasses

783
00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:11.239
<v Speaker 2>in the woods. I might see a bone here or

784
00:46:11.320 --> 00:46:15.599
<v Speaker 2>something there, but nothing, you know, you would think with

785
00:46:15.679 --> 00:46:19.159
<v Speaker 2>them living around here, that you might occasionally come across like,

786
00:46:19.320 --> 00:46:21.960
<v Speaker 2>oh my gosh, there's the remains of something. I know,

787
00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:26.880
<v Speaker 2>what did that? Never never very polite with the upkeep

788
00:46:26.880 --> 00:46:30.719
<v Speaker 2>of their forest. But there was a story from Kewoni

789
00:46:30.840 --> 00:46:33.639
<v Speaker 2>laps Ritis in his book on the Sasquatch in their

790
00:46:33.679 --> 00:46:37.920
<v Speaker 2>interdimensional Connection, and this is a very interesting story about

791
00:46:38.000 --> 00:46:42.159
<v Speaker 2>mind speak in the Sasquatch. And you talk about inside

792
00:46:42.159 --> 00:46:44.920
<v Speaker 2>the house, Well, here's what happened to this one couple.

793
00:46:45.360 --> 00:46:48.159
<v Speaker 2>They were an older couple from Wisconsin, and I think

794
00:46:48.199 --> 00:46:50.679
<v Speaker 2>they would agree that the secret to their long marriage

795
00:46:50.719 --> 00:46:53.119
<v Speaker 2>was the fact that he would drive her every summer

796
00:46:53.679 --> 00:46:56.400
<v Speaker 2>up to their cabin in northern Wisconsin and leave her

797
00:46:56.400 --> 00:46:58.280
<v Speaker 2>for a month and they'd get away from each other

798
00:46:58.320 --> 00:47:00.280
<v Speaker 2>and he'd come back in thirty days, pick her up

799
00:47:00.320 --> 00:47:03.280
<v Speaker 2>and bring her back down. Well, during that stage, she

800
00:47:03.360 --> 00:47:05.639
<v Speaker 2>happened to look out the back door one night at

801
00:47:05.679 --> 00:47:08.039
<v Speaker 2>a storeroom and it was just getting dark, and she

802
00:47:08.079 --> 00:47:12.360
<v Speaker 2>saw the cherry of a cigarette and a guy behind

803
00:47:12.519 --> 00:47:15.719
<v Speaker 2>the one with a cigarette pull the first guy back

804
00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:20.039
<v Speaker 2>real quick, indicating that they had seen her see them,

805
00:47:20.360 --> 00:47:23.079
<v Speaker 2>and she freaked out, thinking I'm about to get robbed,

806
00:47:23.599 --> 00:47:27.079
<v Speaker 2>so she locks the doors, turns the lights off. Ghost

807
00:47:27.079 --> 00:47:29.639
<v Speaker 2>gets in the living room between the couch and the

808
00:47:29.760 --> 00:47:33.039
<v Speaker 2>wall and gets her loaded twenty two revolver and waits

809
00:47:33.039 --> 00:47:36.000
<v Speaker 2>for them to come in and it's at that point

810
00:47:36.440 --> 00:47:39.639
<v Speaker 2>she hears a voice in her head and I don't

811
00:47:39.639 --> 00:47:42.840
<v Speaker 2>remember exactly what it was, but there was a sasquatch nearby,

812
00:47:42.920 --> 00:47:45.679
<v Speaker 2>and he said something to the effect of I've got this,

813
00:47:46.039 --> 00:47:49.599
<v Speaker 2>not like what a human would say, something like I

814
00:47:49.639 --> 00:47:52.639
<v Speaker 2>will protect you. I don't exactly remember the exact phrase,

815
00:47:52.719 --> 00:47:56.280
<v Speaker 2>but he spoke to her in mind speak, and she

816
00:47:56.440 --> 00:48:00.239
<v Speaker 2>heard a scream and never saw those guys again again.

817
00:48:01.280 --> 00:48:04.280
<v Speaker 2>And I believe that he showed himself to them and

818
00:48:04.320 --> 00:48:07.039
<v Speaker 2>didn't even have to roar, just showed himself and those

819
00:48:07.039 --> 00:48:09.480
<v Speaker 2>guys screamed and took off, and we're not interested in

820
00:48:09.559 --> 00:48:13.760
<v Speaker 2>robbing her again. And so there's a case of where

821
00:48:13.800 --> 00:48:17.239
<v Speaker 2>one outside knew happened to watch the whole thing unfold,

822
00:48:17.280 --> 00:48:20.920
<v Speaker 2>and because of his psychic ability, he read their intent.

823
00:48:21.840 --> 00:48:24.280
<v Speaker 2>And I'll tell you one more thing right quick that

824
00:48:24.440 --> 00:48:26.679
<v Speaker 2>has to do with this that I saw on TV

825
00:48:26.880 --> 00:48:31.199
<v Speaker 2>on one of those paranormal caught on camera. This was

826
00:48:31.199 --> 00:48:33.639
<v Speaker 2>the dangus thing, Jeremiah. There was a video of a

827
00:48:33.679 --> 00:48:36.079
<v Speaker 2>car and a guy was about to rob it in

828
00:48:36.199 --> 00:48:38.639
<v Speaker 2>someone's driveway. He was going to break in and steal

829
00:48:38.719 --> 00:48:43.000
<v Speaker 2>something out of it, and the whole point of the

830
00:48:43.079 --> 00:48:47.719
<v Speaker 2>video was to say, when you lower your vibration by

831
00:48:47.760 --> 00:48:51.199
<v Speaker 2>doing something like that, or going after the sasquatch for

832
00:48:51.280 --> 00:48:55.840
<v Speaker 2>wrong reasons, you leave your soul prone to being jumped

833
00:48:56.199 --> 00:49:01.039
<v Speaker 2>by bad entities. Because this video clearly showed this guy

834
00:49:01.159 --> 00:49:03.400
<v Speaker 2>trying to get into the driver's side of the car.

835
00:49:03.559 --> 00:49:08.480
<v Speaker 2>He gets something, runs to around the back of the car,

836
00:49:08.880 --> 00:49:12.880
<v Speaker 2>down the sidewalk of the house he'd just visited, and

837
00:49:12.920 --> 00:49:16.280
<v Speaker 2>there's a dark entity across the road that you can

838
00:49:16.360 --> 00:49:18.760
<v Speaker 2>kind of see through. And as soon as this cat

839
00:49:18.880 --> 00:49:22.920
<v Speaker 2>leaves his robbery and starts running, this entity intersects with

840
00:49:23.000 --> 00:49:26.440
<v Speaker 2>him from across the street, making a triangle, you know,

841
00:49:26.559 --> 00:49:30.480
<v Speaker 2>just kind of intersects with him and blends and disappears

842
00:49:30.559 --> 00:49:33.599
<v Speaker 2>in him, and you don't see that dark thing continue

843
00:49:33.639 --> 00:49:36.599
<v Speaker 2>to move. And that's what the narrator said was that

844
00:49:37.119 --> 00:49:39.400
<v Speaker 2>is it possible when we do bad acts that we

845
00:49:39.480 --> 00:49:42.719
<v Speaker 2>leave ourselves open to being jumped. And so I know

846
00:49:42.800 --> 00:49:46.079
<v Speaker 2>that's different than the sasquatch subject we're talking about, but

847
00:49:46.159 --> 00:49:48.960
<v Speaker 2>it all circles back to the vibration you give off.

848
00:49:49.360 --> 00:49:51.800
<v Speaker 2>The energy you give off, it's going to open you

849
00:49:51.880 --> 00:49:54.519
<v Speaker 2>up to good things if it's a higher vibration, and

850
00:49:54.639 --> 00:49:55.719
<v Speaker 2>bad things if it's a.

851
00:49:55.639 --> 00:50:03.360
<v Speaker 1>Lower that's extremely because there are you know, multiple reports

852
00:50:03.400 --> 00:50:08.920
<v Speaker 1>about how do you have individuals that have some sort

853
00:50:08.960 --> 00:50:12.559
<v Speaker 1>of you know, connection or interaction with a Sasquatch and

854
00:50:12.599 --> 00:50:16.280
<v Speaker 1>then you know, they get back home and then they

855
00:50:16.320 --> 00:50:20.599
<v Speaker 1>start seeing you know, shadow figures around the house, or

856
00:50:21.480 --> 00:50:26.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, things start happening that are very much not

857
00:50:26.840 --> 00:50:30.880
<v Speaker 1>not sasquatch at all. And it's just it's a very

858
00:50:30.920 --> 00:50:33.679
<v Speaker 1>interesting to think thing to think about, like why does

859
00:50:33.719 --> 00:50:34.280
<v Speaker 1>that happen?

860
00:50:36.519 --> 00:50:40.599
<v Speaker 2>Definitely, And I wouldn't be involved in this if I

861
00:50:40.639 --> 00:50:43.559
<v Speaker 2>thought they were of the dark side. One thing you

862
00:50:43.639 --> 00:50:47.320
<v Speaker 2>won't said he did in his book The Sasquatching Their

863
00:50:47.360 --> 00:50:51.159
<v Speaker 2>interdimensional Connection. He said he left a notebook and a

864
00:50:51.199 --> 00:50:54.760
<v Speaker 2>pencil in the woods and telepathically ask them to just

865
00:50:54.800 --> 00:50:58.880
<v Speaker 2>tell me who you are, write your thoughts down. And

866
00:50:59.000 --> 00:51:01.079
<v Speaker 2>he came back and checked the notebook and he said

867
00:51:01.119 --> 00:51:04.079
<v Speaker 2>there was writing in it. It looked like the writing

868
00:51:04.239 --> 00:51:08.559
<v Speaker 2>of a third grader, and it said, not fallen angels,

869
00:51:09.159 --> 00:51:23.800
<v Speaker 2>not nehingle them. Really, yes, and I truly believe that

870
00:51:23.960 --> 00:51:28.280
<v Speaker 2>they are okay spiritually speaking, you know, because I'm a

871
00:51:28.360 --> 00:51:30.199
<v Speaker 2>child of God. I was brought up in the church.

872
00:51:30.239 --> 00:51:34.400
<v Speaker 2>I believe I go to you know, church occasionally, but

873
00:51:34.440 --> 00:51:37.119
<v Speaker 2>it's a more about that spiritual connection with me and

874
00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:40.800
<v Speaker 2>more spiritual than religious. But I believe when I got

875
00:51:40.840 --> 00:51:42.679
<v Speaker 2>touched by the Holy Spirit in church in a way

876
00:51:42.679 --> 00:51:44.360
<v Speaker 2>that humbled me, and it brought me to tears in

877
00:51:44.360 --> 00:51:48.280
<v Speaker 2>front of the congregation while reading, because I thought something

878
00:51:48.320 --> 00:51:50.639
<v Speaker 2>you shouldn't think in church, and God corrected me in

879
00:51:50.679 --> 00:51:53.320
<v Speaker 2>a polite way, but I ended up having to read

880
00:51:53.360 --> 00:51:56.239
<v Speaker 2>something crying through it instead of reading it in a bold,

881
00:51:56.280 --> 00:51:59.119
<v Speaker 2>authoritative manner that I thought would be best. And it

882
00:51:59.199 --> 00:52:01.000
<v Speaker 2>was all because of something I thought before I went

883
00:52:01.039 --> 00:52:04.199
<v Speaker 2>on stage. And it happened twice both services, and at

884
00:52:04.199 --> 00:52:06.440
<v Speaker 2>the exact same point in the script three seconds in.

885
00:52:06.920 --> 00:52:10.840
<v Speaker 2>So there's a lot to that whole light energy thing.

886
00:52:10.880 --> 00:52:13.360
<v Speaker 2>I've been looking at charts that I'll see on X

887
00:52:13.440 --> 00:52:18.519
<v Speaker 2>that relate to anger, regret, sorrow, pain, all the different

888
00:52:18.559 --> 00:52:21.960
<v Speaker 2>emotions you feel and how they can hamper you from

889
00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:25.199
<v Speaker 2>ascending to where you want to go when you pass.

890
00:52:26.039 --> 00:52:29.599
<v Speaker 2>Fear is one of them two and the Sasquatch sends

891
00:52:29.599 --> 00:52:34.679
<v Speaker 2>no fear from me, and so it makes them more

892
00:52:34.719 --> 00:52:37.079
<v Speaker 2>at ease. And I believe we're capable of when they

893
00:52:37.119 --> 00:52:38.920
<v Speaker 2>fear it, you're going to feel it, and that might

894
00:52:38.960 --> 00:52:41.599
<v Speaker 2>be part of that invisible wall of fear, and it

895
00:52:41.599 --> 00:52:45.840
<v Speaker 2>may also be something that they intentionally project to stun you.

896
00:52:45.840 --> 00:52:51.119
<v Speaker 1>You've had multiple years to really think through things. Have

897
00:52:51.159 --> 00:52:55.559
<v Speaker 1>you gotten to a point where you have an idea

898
00:52:55.639 --> 00:53:00.000
<v Speaker 1>of it what they exactly are? Or is that something

899
00:53:00.159 --> 00:53:02.320
<v Speaker 1>you're still trying to figure out.

900
00:53:03.800 --> 00:53:07.800
<v Speaker 2>I have the answer. It's hard to get people to

901
00:53:07.880 --> 00:53:10.400
<v Speaker 2>believe it, but I'll tell you when you look at

902
00:53:10.440 --> 00:53:12.760
<v Speaker 2>the Bible, you can't pick and choose what you're going

903
00:53:12.840 --> 00:53:17.800
<v Speaker 2>to believe. And so in that Sasquatch message to Humanity

904
00:53:17.880 --> 00:53:22.000
<v Speaker 2>that I sent you, it's about eighteen pages in there,

905
00:53:22.760 --> 00:53:26.880
<v Speaker 2>they say who they are, how they got here, how

906
00:53:26.960 --> 00:53:32.320
<v Speaker 2>we got here, And what they said was that long long,

907
00:53:32.519 --> 00:53:38.360
<v Speaker 2>long ago, they were bioengineered by the star people who

908
00:53:38.480 --> 00:53:43.400
<v Speaker 2>used the most advanced primate of the day on Earth,

909
00:53:43.880 --> 00:53:49.119
<v Speaker 2>which was the now extinct giant Lemur. And so their

910
00:53:49.239 --> 00:53:54.960
<v Speaker 2>DNA is half star people, half extinct giant Lemur. And

911
00:53:55.000 --> 00:53:58.960
<v Speaker 2>they say that they assisted in our birthing process years later,

912
00:54:00.119 --> 00:54:03.079
<v Speaker 2>that half of our DNA is the same star people

913
00:54:03.199 --> 00:54:07.840
<v Speaker 2>they have, but that our earthly ancestors are different, with

914
00:54:08.000 --> 00:54:13.320
<v Speaker 2>our earthly ancestor being anthropopithecus or popiticus. I don't know

915
00:54:13.360 --> 00:54:15.480
<v Speaker 2>exactly how to say it, but I googled it and

916
00:54:15.559 --> 00:54:19.280
<v Speaker 2>guess what it looks just like a chimp. And when

917
00:54:19.320 --> 00:54:24.320
<v Speaker 2>I hear that we share ninety eight percent of our

918
00:54:24.400 --> 00:54:27.440
<v Speaker 2>DNA with chimps, but that two percent is a big difference,

919
00:54:27.599 --> 00:54:32.519
<v Speaker 2>Yes it is? Then how can I toss that out?

920
00:54:33.320 --> 00:54:36.719
<v Speaker 2>If I believe the other things in that message to humanity?

921
00:54:37.039 --> 00:54:40.880
<v Speaker 2>Because that message to humanity is basically telling us you

922
00:54:41.000 --> 00:54:44.480
<v Speaker 2>have to change your ways. Time is running out. That's

923
00:54:44.519 --> 00:54:48.679
<v Speaker 2>the essence of that entire message. So if you look

924
00:54:48.719 --> 00:54:52.480
<v Speaker 2>at their reactions in any one of a number of situations,

925
00:54:52.920 --> 00:54:56.559
<v Speaker 2>they're identical to ours. A raised eyebrow if you catch

926
00:54:56.599 --> 00:54:59.760
<v Speaker 2>one off guard, is one report said on the BFRO site.

927
00:55:00.239 --> 00:55:04.920
<v Speaker 2>That's a person reaction, not an animal. The fact that

928
00:55:05.480 --> 00:55:09.400
<v Speaker 2>they have articulated speech, the reports I've read were the

929
00:55:09.400 --> 00:55:11.519
<v Speaker 2>big one is motioning for the last one in the

930
00:55:11.559 --> 00:55:15.280
<v Speaker 2>group to hurry up, the exact same way a human

931
00:55:15.360 --> 00:55:19.960
<v Speaker 2>would to its child. When you take all this together,

932
00:55:20.760 --> 00:55:26.400
<v Speaker 2>I believe that what I've believe, based on what I've read,

933
00:55:26.480 --> 00:55:30.639
<v Speaker 2>is most it most closely represents who they are, and

934
00:55:30.679 --> 00:55:35.320
<v Speaker 2>that is in their own words, our elder brothers and sisters.

935
00:55:35.000 --> 00:55:41.079
<v Speaker 1>That's very interesting. Have you ever talked to Kawani personally?

936
00:55:42.400 --> 00:55:45.320
<v Speaker 2>Yes? And when I was had my podcast from twenty

937
00:55:45.360 --> 00:55:48.360
<v Speaker 2>eleven to twenty fourteen, it was inspired by Bigfoot. I

938
00:55:48.400 --> 00:55:53.239
<v Speaker 2>went by my DJ name Bill Lee. I had a

939
00:55:53.280 --> 00:55:56.800
<v Speaker 2>bunch of different guests on there who had a wild

940
00:55:56.920 --> 00:56:01.039
<v Speaker 2>range of experiences. Doctor Matthew Johnson, I had him on there.

941
00:56:01.400 --> 00:56:04.599
<v Speaker 2>Kewoni told me of a story of a man in

942
00:56:04.639 --> 00:56:07.719
<v Speaker 2>a cabin somewhere in the USA who had a female

943
00:56:07.760 --> 00:56:13.119
<v Speaker 2>sasquatch dematerialized through his wall come in and have sexual

944
00:56:13.199 --> 00:56:17.760
<v Speaker 2>relations with him, return three months later the same way

945
00:56:17.840 --> 00:56:22.679
<v Speaker 2>she came, tell him it took and then disappeared. And

946
00:56:22.760 --> 00:56:26.559
<v Speaker 2>so this man's got a half sasquatch, half us running

947
00:56:26.599 --> 00:56:30.480
<v Speaker 2>around somewhere out there that he'll probably never see. And

948
00:56:31.119 --> 00:56:33.639
<v Speaker 2>that's not the first time that's happened in the Sasquatch

949
00:56:33.719 --> 00:56:37.360
<v Speaker 2>say that in that message to humanity that I've just mentioned,

950
00:56:37.400 --> 00:56:41.039
<v Speaker 2>that that our genes are so close that the species

951
00:56:41.159 --> 00:56:43.079
<v Speaker 2>can and have enter bred.

952
00:56:44.119 --> 00:56:48.480
<v Speaker 1>Did you have this podcast on I'm trying to so

953
00:56:48.559 --> 00:56:53.719
<v Speaker 1>this is a while ago blog talk, Okay, So yeah,

954
00:56:53.719 --> 00:56:57.239
<v Speaker 1>I was like, what would have been back then? Yeah, okay,

955
00:56:57.440 --> 00:56:59.840
<v Speaker 1>that's cool. Is it still available up there?

956
00:57:01.400 --> 00:57:04.079
<v Speaker 2>You know, that's a good question. I still have a

957
00:57:04.079 --> 00:57:08.519
<v Speaker 2>lot of the audio files on my computer from the interviews,

958
00:57:08.559 --> 00:57:10.719
<v Speaker 2>and I've been wanting to go in through. I've gone

959
00:57:10.719 --> 00:57:12.039
<v Speaker 2>in there and put a lot of them on a

960
00:57:12.079 --> 00:57:14.760
<v Speaker 2>thumb drive to get them off of an old computer

961
00:57:14.800 --> 00:57:16.880
<v Speaker 2>in case it blows up and I can't get to them.

962
00:57:17.480 --> 00:57:20.280
<v Speaker 2>And I will make sure that I get those handy

963
00:57:20.599 --> 00:57:23.800
<v Speaker 2>and would be happy to send some of the stuff.

964
00:57:23.840 --> 00:57:28.079
<v Speaker 2>I've still got the notebooks from the interviews, and one

965
00:57:28.159 --> 00:57:30.840
<v Speaker 2>gentleman in Georgia told me they went out looking for

966
00:57:30.920 --> 00:57:33.480
<v Speaker 2>him one night and had an ingenious plan to pre

967
00:57:33.719 --> 00:57:37.880
<v Speaker 2>plant a man in some bushes, while another one a

968
00:57:37.920 --> 00:57:41.599
<v Speaker 2>couple hours later would come walking by, just strolling around,

969
00:57:42.400 --> 00:57:44.960
<v Speaker 2>hoping to get the interest of a sasquatch, who would

970
00:57:44.960 --> 00:57:48.239
<v Speaker 2>then be observed by the human stashed in the bushes.

971
00:57:49.400 --> 00:57:52.840
<v Speaker 2>The only problem with that is when the sasquatch came

972
00:57:52.880 --> 00:57:55.840
<v Speaker 2>walking through there, he turned and looked at the bushes,

973
00:57:55.880 --> 00:57:59.679
<v Speaker 2>and the person in the bushes said he felt like

974
00:57:59.719 --> 00:58:02.960
<v Speaker 2>he was being scanned. It was an electronic sensation, and

975
00:58:03.039 --> 00:58:05.559
<v Speaker 2>it went from his head to his toe, as if

976
00:58:05.559 --> 00:58:10.440
<v Speaker 2>that thing Since he was there despite having hidden. And

977
00:58:10.480 --> 00:58:14.360
<v Speaker 2>so that's an example of There was another man who

978
00:58:14.719 --> 00:58:16.440
<v Speaker 2>was at a cabin in the US. These are all

979
00:58:16.480 --> 00:58:19.800
<v Speaker 2>off the BFRO site. I've read every Class A and

980
00:58:19.880 --> 00:58:24.199
<v Speaker 2>B report that they have chosen to publish. And one

981
00:58:24.320 --> 00:58:27.480
<v Speaker 2>man had figured out that a female sasquatch would come

982
00:58:27.519 --> 00:58:31.719
<v Speaker 2>by whistling on certain nights near his cabin, and he

983
00:58:31.880 --> 00:58:35.039
<v Speaker 2>was convinced that he would get that footage everybody wants

984
00:58:35.079 --> 00:58:38.760
<v Speaker 2>to get, and so, being former military, he dug a

985
00:58:38.800 --> 00:58:42.679
<v Speaker 2>fox hole across from his cabin and he waited for

986
00:58:42.760 --> 00:58:45.280
<v Speaker 2>two hours and didn't move a muscle to the point

987
00:58:45.280 --> 00:58:47.960
<v Speaker 2>that a fox came by within feet and didn't even

988
00:58:47.960 --> 00:58:51.280
<v Speaker 2>know he was there. Well, all of a sudden it

989
00:58:51.320 --> 00:58:54.760
<v Speaker 2>starts to get dark. Here comes to whistling, and he

990
00:58:54.880 --> 00:58:58.000
<v Speaker 2>hadn't moved a muscle for two hours. And the second

991
00:58:58.519 --> 00:59:04.280
<v Speaker 2>that he brought that camera to get his footage, the

992
00:59:04.400 --> 00:59:09.719
<v Speaker 2>male sasquatch that had been hiding near him whistled at

993
00:59:09.719 --> 00:59:12.800
<v Speaker 2>the female and she took off and the man lost

994
00:59:12.800 --> 00:59:13.960
<v Speaker 2>his million dollar shot.

995
00:59:16.280 --> 00:59:19.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness, that's wild.

996
00:59:20.639 --> 00:59:23.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh and so that's what you're up again. So you

997
00:59:23.760 --> 00:59:26.360
<v Speaker 2>can you can try to sneak around and if you've

998
00:59:26.360 --> 00:59:28.079
<v Speaker 2>got a trail cam and you just put it out

999
00:59:28.119 --> 00:59:31.000
<v Speaker 2>there and you're not trying to get them specifically. You

1000
00:59:31.119 --> 00:59:33.679
<v Speaker 2>might get footage, and you know, footage is footage. It's

1001
00:59:33.679 --> 00:59:37.079
<v Speaker 2>it's fine, there's nothing wrong with that. But I prefer

1002
00:59:37.199 --> 00:59:39.760
<v Speaker 2>to know sneaking, no agenda. It's like, hey, I know

1003
00:59:39.800 --> 00:59:41.920
<v Speaker 2>who you are, you know who I am. Let's see

1004
00:59:41.920 --> 00:59:45.039
<v Speaker 2>if we can't strike up a relationship and one day

1005
00:59:45.079 --> 00:59:47.320
<v Speaker 2>sit on a log and look into each other's eyes.

1006
00:59:50.480 --> 00:59:56.559
<v Speaker 1>If if you were able to do that, what kind

1007
00:59:56.599 --> 00:59:58.400
<v Speaker 1>of conversation do you think you would have?

1008
01:00:00.960 --> 01:00:05.559
<v Speaker 2>It would be telepathically. The thing is, right now, our

1009
01:00:05.599 --> 01:00:08.400
<v Speaker 2>communication is one way because I've gotten them to respond

1010
01:00:08.480 --> 01:00:10.880
<v Speaker 2>to my thoughts, but I've not heard them in my

1011
01:00:11.000 --> 01:00:14.199
<v Speaker 2>head them. I also have a very busy mind. It's

1012
01:00:14.199 --> 01:00:17.440
<v Speaker 2>always got something going on soundtrack of a song or

1013
01:00:17.480 --> 01:00:19.800
<v Speaker 2>a thought or a conversation with myself, and I think

1014
01:00:19.800 --> 01:00:23.480
<v Speaker 2>it's hard for anything to butt in. And they've told

1015
01:00:23.519 --> 01:00:24.840
<v Speaker 2>me that I kind of have a bit of a

1016
01:00:24.840 --> 01:00:26.239
<v Speaker 2>block with a coat.

1017
01:00:26.159 --> 01:00:29.079
<v Speaker 1>Around my heart, big for society. Who will be right

1018
01:00:29.119 --> 01:00:30.440
<v Speaker 1>back after these messages.

1019
01:00:46.519 --> 01:00:49.719
<v Speaker 2>This was in telepathic conversation with a deceased woman I

1020
01:00:49.800 --> 01:00:52.239
<v Speaker 2>mentioned earlier in the show who I'd had as a guest.

1021
01:00:52.960 --> 01:00:55.039
<v Speaker 2>Their message to me was he's a good soul, a

1022
01:00:55.159 --> 01:00:59.719
<v Speaker 2>kind soul. Take off the coat for clearer, better communication,

1023
01:01:00.679 --> 01:01:02.880
<v Speaker 2>and that coat is just I a soft hearted guy,

1024
01:01:02.960 --> 01:01:05.920
<v Speaker 2>but can get defensive if someone's rude. And as I've

1025
01:01:05.920 --> 01:01:09.519
<v Speaker 2>gotten older, I've become better at being calmer and controlling

1026
01:01:09.559 --> 01:01:13.000
<v Speaker 2>myself and thus raising my vibration because I've become very

1027
01:01:13.039 --> 01:01:16.320
<v Speaker 2>in tune to how my actions and words affect my vibration,

1028
01:01:16.639 --> 01:01:19.079
<v Speaker 2>as we all should be, you know. And once you

1029
01:01:19.159 --> 01:01:21.280
<v Speaker 2>become more in tune to that and make an effort,

1030
01:01:22.599 --> 01:01:27.920
<v Speaker 2>it becomes easier. And I believe that a sighting will

1031
01:01:27.960 --> 01:01:31.800
<v Speaker 2>occur when my vibration was a certain point, not that

1032
01:01:31.840 --> 01:01:35.519
<v Speaker 2>it's rock bottom now, it's just one thing. Kathleen told

1033
01:01:35.559 --> 01:01:40.440
<v Speaker 2>me the deceased woman it was an interspecies communicator and

1034
01:01:40.480 --> 01:01:45.280
<v Speaker 2>a shamanic practitioner. She said, integrity is everything with them.

1035
01:01:45.840 --> 01:01:48.079
<v Speaker 2>And you can't be thinking about wanting to beat up

1036
01:01:48.119 --> 01:01:51.159
<v Speaker 2>a coworker during the day, not that I did, but

1037
01:01:51.480 --> 01:01:54.800
<v Speaker 2>and then going and hoping to have an encounter that night.

1038
01:01:56.880 --> 01:01:59.119
<v Speaker 2>You have to walk a really good walk. And this

1039
01:01:59.199 --> 01:02:02.199
<v Speaker 2>has made me a better person. And then turn and

1040
01:02:02.280 --> 01:02:05.239
<v Speaker 2>I ask myself. How can these people be evil? How

1041
01:02:05.280 --> 01:02:08.760
<v Speaker 2>could a religious person say that they're they're they're the

1042
01:02:08.880 --> 01:02:14.119
<v Speaker 2>devil when a certain amount of kindness is required to

1043
01:02:14.119 --> 01:02:16.159
<v Speaker 2>get to know them, and that they wait so long

1044
01:02:16.360 --> 01:02:19.000
<v Speaker 2>to let you see them. If ever, whereas if they

1045
01:02:19.039 --> 01:02:21.119
<v Speaker 2>were the devil or a demon, they would be all

1046
01:02:21.159 --> 01:02:23.920
<v Speaker 2>too happy to come forth and to lure you in.

1047
01:02:30.199 --> 01:02:33.079
<v Speaker 2>Hm hm. Wow.

1048
01:02:35.920 --> 01:02:38.239
<v Speaker 1>It's a it's a lot. It's a lot to think about.

1049
01:02:38.280 --> 01:02:43.400
<v Speaker 2>Bill. Yeah, this is how I passed the days. I've

1050
01:02:44.039 --> 01:02:47.679
<v Speaker 2>taken a day job roasting sunflower seeds, and I wear

1051
01:02:47.760 --> 01:02:50.480
<v Speaker 2>earplugs the noise in there, and I'll tell you I

1052
01:02:50.519 --> 01:02:53.360
<v Speaker 2>spend many a day I will call out those sasquatch

1053
01:02:53.480 --> 01:02:57.079
<v Speaker 2>calls while I'm at work, just out because it's noisy

1054
01:02:57.079 --> 01:02:58.639
<v Speaker 2>in there, and nobody hears me. But I'll be in

1055
01:02:58.639 --> 01:03:00.559
<v Speaker 2>the middle of roasting those seeds and I'd just like,

1056
01:03:04.559 --> 01:03:07.239
<v Speaker 2>and I'll tell you something that I hadn't mentioned. I

1057
01:03:07.360 --> 01:03:12.199
<v Speaker 2>used to roar very loudly before contact with them ever happened,

1058
01:03:12.239 --> 01:03:15.280
<v Speaker 2>because I did not believe they were around. And I

1059
01:03:15.280 --> 01:03:17.480
<v Speaker 2>would stand out by the fence where I told you

1060
01:03:17.559 --> 01:03:20.039
<v Speaker 2>that noise happened earlier, and I got a response from

1061
01:03:20.159 --> 01:03:23.079
<v Speaker 2>him and I would stand in that same spot and

1062
01:03:23.199 --> 01:03:26.239
<v Speaker 2>look to my neighbor's house twenty six acres away, Luke,

1063
01:03:26.320 --> 01:03:27.880
<v Speaker 2>the one who was in the field when he heard

1064
01:03:27.880 --> 01:03:31.559
<v Speaker 2>that one male call out one night, and I would

1065
01:03:31.639 --> 01:03:42.000
<v Speaker 2>roar very loudly, as loud and long as I could, going. Oh,

1066
01:03:42.239 --> 01:03:45.199
<v Speaker 2>that spread out over about fifteen seconds and very deep,

1067
01:03:45.400 --> 01:03:47.440
<v Speaker 2>very loud, and I would do it to see how

1068
01:03:47.480 --> 01:03:51.119
<v Speaker 2>many dogs I could stir up and get barking, including

1069
01:03:51.119 --> 01:03:54.599
<v Speaker 2>my neighbors Great Dane and Great Pyramides twenty six acres away.

1070
01:03:55.239 --> 01:04:00.559
<v Speaker 2>And every time i'd finish that roar, i'd do Remember, well,

1071
01:04:00.760 --> 01:04:03.079
<v Speaker 2>I got back to thinking, they've been watching me the

1072
01:04:03.119 --> 01:04:06.159
<v Speaker 2>whole time and never made contact when with me when

1073
01:04:06.199 --> 01:04:09.000
<v Speaker 2>I was walking around trying to act like them and

1074
01:04:09.079 --> 01:04:13.119
<v Speaker 2>roar like I was boss of the woods. Never made contact. No,

1075
01:04:13.239 --> 01:04:16.559
<v Speaker 2>hooting know nothing. I don't know what caused me to

1076
01:04:16.599 --> 01:04:21.000
<v Speaker 2>stop roaring like that. But when I did, hooting began,

1077
01:04:21.679 --> 01:04:24.480
<v Speaker 2>and I made a mental note of that that they

1078
01:04:24.639 --> 01:04:28.320
<v Speaker 2>they probably didn't care for that. And but it's fun

1079
01:04:28.320 --> 01:04:30.079
<v Speaker 2>when you live in the country to be able to

1080
01:04:30.199 --> 01:04:35.320
<v Speaker 2>roar at the top of your lungs.

1081
01:04:35.079 --> 01:04:37.559
<v Speaker 1>That's true. I mean, you can do it. You could

1082
01:04:37.559 --> 01:04:40.119
<v Speaker 1>do it anywhere, but you might get some weird looks

1083
01:04:40.599 --> 01:04:44.159
<v Speaker 1>if you weren't again out in the country. But that's

1084
01:04:44.239 --> 01:04:44.880
<v Speaker 1>that's funny.

1085
01:04:46.599 --> 01:04:46.920
<v Speaker 2>Hmm.

1086
01:04:49.760 --> 01:04:53.599
<v Speaker 1>Let's say there were there was someone where they wanted

1087
01:04:53.639 --> 01:04:58.519
<v Speaker 1>to try to have an encounter with the sasquatch, and

1088
01:04:59.159 --> 01:05:02.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, there's there's different ways of going about this.

1089
01:05:02.639 --> 01:05:06.960
<v Speaker 1>But if you were going to go out to let's

1090
01:05:06.960 --> 01:05:10.880
<v Speaker 1>say a new area and try to get an interaction

1091
01:05:11.639 --> 01:05:15.079
<v Speaker 1>with a sasquatch, what would you recommend doing.

1092
01:05:17.400 --> 01:05:22.119
<v Speaker 2>Starts with a good outlook, happy, go lucky, upbeat, think

1093
01:05:22.159 --> 01:05:24.559
<v Speaker 2>of being about ready to go on vacation. You're all

1094
01:05:24.599 --> 01:05:27.000
<v Speaker 2>packed up and you're driving off. That mood you're in

1095
01:05:28.000 --> 01:05:33.480
<v Speaker 2>that is real good, versus crawling around the woods sneaking

1096
01:05:35.880 --> 01:05:39.079
<v Speaker 2>that can be beneficial sneaking. There's a BFR report of

1097
01:05:39.119 --> 01:05:42.440
<v Speaker 2>a high school graduation party in Washington State where two

1098
01:05:42.480 --> 01:05:45.159
<v Speaker 2>boys decided to prank the party, sneak off and make

1099
01:05:45.239 --> 01:05:48.639
<v Speaker 2>noises to scare the party goers. And the funny thing

1100
01:05:48.719 --> 01:05:50.480
<v Speaker 2>is is when the guy got to his spot to

1101
01:05:50.559 --> 01:05:54.039
<v Speaker 2>make noises, the party was generating so much noise they

1102
01:05:54.119 --> 01:05:57.239
<v Speaker 2>couldn't hear him, and he heard a twig snap and

1103
01:05:57.320 --> 01:06:00.480
<v Speaker 2>he slowly turned around and there was a sasquatch looking

1104
01:06:00.559 --> 01:06:08.280
<v Speaker 2>down at him. He got schooled by the Hide and

1105
01:06:08.280 --> 01:06:10.880
<v Speaker 2>Seek champion of the world. But it starts with when

1106
01:06:10.880 --> 01:06:14.599
<v Speaker 2>you hit the woods, a good outlook, a good attitude.

1107
01:06:15.440 --> 01:06:17.800
<v Speaker 2>You can have a gun if you need a gun,

1108
01:06:17.920 --> 01:06:20.800
<v Speaker 2>Robert said in later years, they know your intent and

1109
01:06:21.000 --> 01:06:24.400
<v Speaker 2>understand you might need to be armed against other threats

1110
01:06:24.440 --> 01:06:28.199
<v Speaker 2>out there, and so I wouldn't say no to a firearm.

1111
01:06:28.280 --> 01:06:31.880
<v Speaker 2>But as Robert would say, look up reports in your area.

1112
01:06:32.960 --> 01:06:35.800
<v Speaker 2>Just because there aren't reports doesn't mean that they aren't there.

1113
01:06:36.039 --> 01:06:39.719
<v Speaker 2>Somebody may have seen one and chose not to report

1114
01:06:39.760 --> 01:06:43.239
<v Speaker 2>that one in. But it really it's your mindset, because

1115
01:06:43.400 --> 01:06:47.480
<v Speaker 2>they're going to know you're coming if you're coming anyway.

1116
01:06:47.960 --> 01:06:52.719
<v Speaker 2>And it took me seven years of walking the woods

1117
01:06:52.840 --> 01:06:55.840
<v Speaker 2>never hearing them before they ever called out. So if

1118
01:06:55.840 --> 01:06:58.440
<v Speaker 2>you're going to do this, it's going to be the

1119
01:06:58.559 --> 01:07:01.840
<v Speaker 2>long game and you're going to be measuring this in years,

1120
01:07:02.639 --> 01:07:06.719
<v Speaker 2>not months. And that was my experience anyway, and I

1121
01:07:06.800 --> 01:07:09.119
<v Speaker 2>kept at it because I love to walk the woods anyway,

1122
01:07:09.159 --> 01:07:11.599
<v Speaker 2>And if there had never been any activity, I'd still

1123
01:07:11.639 --> 01:07:13.679
<v Speaker 2>go walk the woods because I love to do it.

1124
01:07:14.159 --> 01:07:17.400
<v Speaker 2>My last name, Bob is German for tree, and my

1125
01:07:17.480 --> 01:07:21.400
<v Speaker 2>favorite color is green. So there's a spiritual connection to

1126
01:07:21.480 --> 01:07:24.840
<v Speaker 2>all this tying together that I sense and feel. And

1127
01:07:24.880 --> 01:07:28.119
<v Speaker 2>so you just hit the woods with a I enjoy this.

1128
01:07:28.239 --> 01:07:30.360
<v Speaker 2>I know they're out there. Are there any around? I

1129
01:07:30.400 --> 01:07:32.360
<v Speaker 2>don't know, but I'm gonna have fun, give off a

1130
01:07:32.400 --> 01:07:35.280
<v Speaker 2>neat vibe and get away from electronics, the hustle and

1131
01:07:35.320 --> 01:07:39.159
<v Speaker 2>bustle of our life, and just do that over and over.

1132
01:07:40.400 --> 01:07:42.639
<v Speaker 2>If you have good access, if you have to drive

1133
01:07:42.719 --> 01:07:45.039
<v Speaker 2>to your area, you know you may not be able

1134
01:07:45.039 --> 01:07:47.000
<v Speaker 2>to drive there every day. I just walk down a

1135
01:07:47.079 --> 01:07:50.280
<v Speaker 2>driveway across a road and I'm already there. And so

1136
01:07:50.960 --> 01:07:53.320
<v Speaker 2>that's been the big helper for me. And if I

1137
01:07:53.360 --> 01:07:58.840
<v Speaker 2>went to another area, would I go walking around Montana

1138
01:07:58.880 --> 01:08:04.079
<v Speaker 2>Glacier National Park with the grizzlies up there unarmed? No way, Absolutely,

1139
01:08:04.119 --> 01:08:07.760
<v Speaker 2>no way. And so it depends also what other predators

1140
01:08:07.840 --> 01:08:10.400
<v Speaker 2>are in the area East Texas. I've got nothing to

1141
01:08:10.440 --> 01:08:12.639
<v Speaker 2>worry about in the woods. I know they're wild hogs.

1142
01:08:12.679 --> 01:08:16.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm not worried about the coyotes. I'm not worried about

1143
01:08:16.000 --> 01:08:19.439
<v Speaker 2>the hogs. I just I'm not. And so there's nothing

1144
01:08:19.479 --> 01:08:21.960
<v Speaker 2>really else the occasional mountain line, but I've never seen

1145
01:08:21.960 --> 01:08:25.039
<v Speaker 2>one around here, so every area is different. You're going

1146
01:08:25.079 --> 01:08:27.960
<v Speaker 2>to have certain predators you might have to consider elsewhere.

1147
01:08:27.960 --> 01:08:31.079
<v Speaker 2>But what it'll do for your heart and soul to

1148
01:08:31.079 --> 01:08:33.880
<v Speaker 2>get out in the woods and do like kids do

1149
01:08:33.960 --> 01:08:35.960
<v Speaker 2>when they played army games in the woods. Just make

1150
01:08:36.039 --> 01:08:38.800
<v Speaker 2>believe that you're being watched by them, and act like

1151
01:08:38.840 --> 01:08:42.800
<v Speaker 2>you're doing something else, show intense interest in something around

1152
01:08:42.880 --> 01:08:45.560
<v Speaker 2>you while you're in the woods, and it's liable if

1153
01:08:45.600 --> 01:08:48.560
<v Speaker 2>there's one nearby to become very interested in what you're

1154
01:08:48.600 --> 01:08:49.760
<v Speaker 2>doing things like that.

1155
01:08:52.359 --> 01:08:56.640
<v Speaker 1>You mentioned something really quickly and it was kind of interesting.

1156
01:08:56.800 --> 01:09:01.560
<v Speaker 1>So do you think there's something then to not having

1157
01:09:01.640 --> 01:09:08.239
<v Speaker 1>electronics around you when you're out there? I notice you

1158
01:09:08.279 --> 01:09:09.720
<v Speaker 1>said that kind of quickly.

1159
01:09:11.239 --> 01:09:15.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. In fact, I had two videos of tree formations

1160
01:09:15.039 --> 01:09:17.119
<v Speaker 2>that I was able to photograph. But when I went

1161
01:09:17.239 --> 01:09:19.800
<v Speaker 2>and did a video of them and tried and did

1162
01:09:19.800 --> 01:09:23.319
<v Speaker 2>a narration next to it, the crazy thing is is

1163
01:09:23.359 --> 01:09:27.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm recording the first tree that's bent. It's been over

1164
01:09:27.319 --> 01:09:30.520
<v Speaker 2>being held down by something. Two trees actually, and they're

1165
01:09:30.520 --> 01:09:33.159
<v Speaker 2>coming together at the same point, held down by a

1166
01:09:33.199 --> 01:09:36.720
<v Speaker 2>branch that is not held down by anything. And I'm

1167
01:09:36.800 --> 01:09:41.600
<v Speaker 2>narrating that and I check the video after I record

1168
01:09:41.640 --> 01:09:44.479
<v Speaker 2>it to make sure it's not a vertical video, and

1169
01:09:44.840 --> 01:09:48.079
<v Speaker 2>I start smelling a faint skunk smell, and I thought,

1170
01:09:48.079 --> 01:09:50.880
<v Speaker 2>that's odd. I look over at my dog's thirty five

1171
01:09:50.920 --> 01:09:53.119
<v Speaker 2>feet away sniff in the base of a down tree.

1172
01:09:53.239 --> 01:09:55.960
<v Speaker 2>They're not hip to what I'm smelling at all, oblivious

1173
01:09:56.000 --> 01:09:58.800
<v Speaker 2>to it. So I click record again on the phone.

1174
01:09:58.840 --> 01:10:01.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, okay, here's another video. I'm at this tree

1175
01:10:01.840 --> 01:10:05.039
<v Speaker 2>formation and now I'm smelling a faint skunk smell. This

1176
01:10:05.199 --> 01:10:08.039
<v Speaker 2>is really odd. And I go on for about two minutes.

1177
01:10:08.119 --> 01:10:10.479
<v Speaker 2>The first video was five, the follow up was two.

1178
01:10:10.920 --> 01:10:13.359
<v Speaker 2>I finish it, check it, make sure it's not a vertical,

1179
01:10:13.560 --> 01:10:16.159
<v Speaker 2>and get back to the house and I go to

1180
01:10:16.319 --> 01:10:19.880
<v Speaker 2>transfer it from my phone to my desktop. And I've

1181
01:10:19.920 --> 01:10:23.039
<v Speaker 2>had many cell phones over the years and several desktops,

1182
01:10:23.079 --> 01:10:25.239
<v Speaker 2>and I've never had a fail when it came to

1183
01:10:25.319 --> 01:10:28.039
<v Speaker 2>transferring a file. And when I saw that progress bar

1184
01:10:28.199 --> 01:10:31.039
<v Speaker 2>zip across in a half a second, I knew I

1185
01:10:31.079 --> 01:10:33.479
<v Speaker 2>was screwed. I'm like, those videos are not on there.

1186
01:10:33.840 --> 01:10:37.760
<v Speaker 2>They erased my video. Why how can I take pictures

1187
01:10:37.800 --> 01:10:41.000
<v Speaker 2>but videos are not. Maybe they're just pranking me and

1188
01:10:41.039 --> 01:10:44.439
<v Speaker 2>they're not mad, it's just pranking me. As one guest

1189
01:10:44.479 --> 01:10:48.520
<v Speaker 2>on my Inspired by Bigfoot show said from Georgia, he goes, oh, yeah,

1190
01:10:48.520 --> 01:10:51.439
<v Speaker 2>i'll build. They mess with our electronics every time we

1191
01:10:51.560 --> 01:10:55.279
<v Speaker 2>go in the woods. So that drew on that experience

1192
01:10:55.800 --> 01:10:58.439
<v Speaker 2>to try to solve what happened to me, and so

1193
01:10:59.119 --> 01:11:01.640
<v Speaker 2>that's why I want ever try to get a picture

1194
01:11:01.680 --> 01:11:05.359
<v Speaker 2>of them. I tried one time when I was out there.

1195
01:11:05.399 --> 01:11:07.479
<v Speaker 2>I took the phone and I put it on record,

1196
01:11:07.520 --> 01:11:09.960
<v Speaker 2>and I just held it to my side because I

1197
01:11:10.000 --> 01:11:12.479
<v Speaker 2>was in the middle of interacting with them. I said,

1198
01:11:12.479 --> 01:11:16.399
<v Speaker 2>if you want to call out while I'm right here,

1199
01:11:17.199 --> 01:11:20.760
<v Speaker 2>I'll play this for my followers on X. If you

1200
01:11:20.800 --> 01:11:23.520
<v Speaker 2>don't want to, I understand, I'll give you a minute.

1201
01:11:24.159 --> 01:11:26.880
<v Speaker 2>I waited a few seconds, no call, and I said,

1202
01:11:26.880 --> 01:11:30.840
<v Speaker 2>that's perfectly fine. I understand. I totally get it. And

1203
01:11:30.880 --> 01:11:33.159
<v Speaker 2>so he picks up on that intent and I walk

1204
01:11:33.199 --> 01:11:37.680
<v Speaker 2>away and they respect that, and so I talk to

1205
01:11:37.760 --> 01:11:39.960
<v Speaker 2>him as if they understand what I'm saying, and I'm

1206
01:11:40.000 --> 01:11:42.880
<v Speaker 2>courteous about it, and I think one day I will

1207
01:11:42.880 --> 01:11:44.920
<v Speaker 2>get a sighting because I'd love for them to say,

1208
01:11:45.199 --> 01:11:47.319
<v Speaker 2>would you just let me take a picture of you?

1209
01:11:47.600 --> 01:11:50.399
<v Speaker 2>And I can put it up and we can show people.

1210
01:11:50.840 --> 01:11:52.960
<v Speaker 2>And you know that sounds good in theory, Jeremiah, but

1211
01:11:53.000 --> 01:11:56.479
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you I've already seen their words where they say,

1212
01:11:56.880 --> 01:12:00.520
<v Speaker 2>the reason we don't like our photographs take that when

1213
01:12:00.600 --> 01:12:04.680
<v Speaker 2>they get published. Because they are so sensitive and psychic,

1214
01:12:05.079 --> 01:12:10.119
<v Speaker 2>they can feel the ridicule from people who look at

1215
01:12:10.159 --> 01:12:12.239
<v Speaker 2>it and make fun of it and talk about their

1216
01:12:12.319 --> 01:12:16.960
<v Speaker 2>looks and other things, and it hurts them greatly. They

1217
01:12:17.000 --> 01:12:20.600
<v Speaker 2>can actually feel that. Now, we wouldn't think in the

1218
01:12:20.720 --> 01:12:23.560
<v Speaker 2>thousand years that they would be able to sense that.

1219
01:12:24.479 --> 01:12:27.119
<v Speaker 2>But if they can pick up on that then and

1220
01:12:27.319 --> 01:12:30.439
<v Speaker 2>they hear those negative comments, it hurts them and they

1221
01:12:30.520 --> 01:12:34.319
<v Speaker 2>specifically say, this is why we don't like ourselves being photographed,

1222
01:12:34.359 --> 01:12:37.319
<v Speaker 2>and we'll never let our DNA be sampled because of

1223
01:12:38.079 --> 01:12:41.319
<v Speaker 2>the backlash and how strong it is and how much

1224
01:12:41.359 --> 01:12:42.359
<v Speaker 2>it hurts us.

1225
01:12:43.000 --> 01:12:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Did you ever get to have a conversation with Robert.

1226
01:12:47.680 --> 01:12:52.520
<v Speaker 2>I did. I had him on as a guest. Oh wow, Yeah,

1227
01:12:51.800 --> 01:12:58.640
<v Speaker 2>he was amazing. He was taking a different approach to

1228
01:12:58.760 --> 01:13:01.600
<v Speaker 2>these wild people when everybody else thought that they were

1229
01:13:01.680 --> 01:13:05.039
<v Speaker 2>apes or not capable. And you know, they talk about

1230
01:13:05.039 --> 01:13:07.479
<v Speaker 2>the four horsemen of Sasquatching, and I'm like, you know,

1231
01:13:08.159 --> 01:13:10.359
<v Speaker 2>Robert should be one of those, because I look at

1232
01:13:10.399 --> 01:13:14.960
<v Speaker 2>John Green. It's like Canadian newspaperman who accumulated reports when

1233
01:13:14.960 --> 01:13:17.560
<v Speaker 2>no one else did. But that's pretty impressive. Nothing wrong

1234
01:13:17.600 --> 01:13:20.840
<v Speaker 2>with that. Renee de Hindon, I'm like, well, he came

1235
01:13:21.279 --> 01:13:24.239
<v Speaker 2>over from Europe and was brash and loved to cuss

1236
01:13:25.880 --> 01:13:30.760
<v Speaker 2>and make fun of some people and exactly, and I'm

1237
01:13:30.800 --> 01:13:34.840
<v Speaker 2>not sure that is horseman material. And then you've got

1238
01:13:35.600 --> 01:13:38.560
<v Speaker 2>Peter Burn. I'm like, I'm sorry, but I don't. I

1239
01:13:38.600 --> 01:13:41.319
<v Speaker 2>don't like the idea of hunting animals that really that

1240
01:13:41.319 --> 01:13:44.760
<v Speaker 2>that I can't stand to see those pictures. And a

1241
01:13:44.800 --> 01:13:47.399
<v Speaker 2>big game hunter, I'm like, that doesn't qualify you to

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<v Speaker 2>know about the sasquatch because you're hunting animals and these

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<v Speaker 2>are people. So I'm not quite sure about that. And

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<v Speaker 2>then the oh yeah, the other one, the most qualified

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<v Speaker 2>in the late doctor Grover Krantz. Definitely qualified, But I

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<v Speaker 2>would say Krantz Robert Morgan, and I've not tried to

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<v Speaker 2>finish the list. But Robert was so ahead of his

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<v Speaker 2>time and didn't get a lot of the credit that

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01:14:10.600 --> 01:14:13.159
<v Speaker 2>he should have. And yet I'm sitting here interacting and

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<v Speaker 2>getting results with the methods that he espouses on those

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<v Speaker 2>tapes that you and I have talked about.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, I I, yeah, I gotta look more into these tapes.

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01:14:24.920 --> 01:14:28.840
<v Speaker 1>I think I've seen him on on Amazon. Maybe I have.

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01:14:29.119 --> 01:14:31.600
<v Speaker 1>I have an actual signed copy of his book. I

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01:14:31.640 --> 01:14:36.399
<v Speaker 1>was able to meet him at a small town monsters

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01:14:36.960 --> 01:14:41.560
<v Speaker 1>monsterfest a year or so ago. It was really awesome

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<v Speaker 1>just to meet him, you know. But uh, man, that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's really weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it makes it warms more heart to hear that,

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<v Speaker 2>because I didn't know where he was or how he

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01:14:53.560 --> 01:14:55.199
<v Speaker 2>was doing, and I know he was getting up there

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01:14:55.239 --> 01:14:57.680
<v Speaker 2>in years. And I tried to find him on ex

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<v Speaker 2>Twitter at the time a couple of years ago, and

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<v Speaker 2>I I think I found her maybe it was Facebook,

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01:15:01.600 --> 01:15:03.960
<v Speaker 2>found an account, but didn't get a response. And I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't think he was on there very much, kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like Kewoney. But just I can't say enough about what

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<v Speaker 2>he did to steer me on the right track and

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<v Speaker 2>how nice and just gentle and and also very just

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<v Speaker 2>very different man. You know, he talks about reincarnation and

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<v Speaker 2>is a traveler, and he's gotten the most out of life.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you, he's gotten his money's worth.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a gentleman who's a friend of his and they

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01:15:32.079 --> 01:15:36.560
<v Speaker 1>have a they have an account on Facebook, and he

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01:15:36.640 --> 01:15:45.960
<v Speaker 1>will he will randomly post old artifacts from from Robert's past.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very very cool. I think if you just search

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01:15:49.439 --> 01:15:52.279
<v Speaker 1>for like Robert W. Morgan, you can you can find

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01:15:53.560 --> 01:15:58.439
<v Speaker 1>the account on Facebook. But it's some some cool stuff

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01:15:58.439 --> 01:16:01.039
<v Speaker 1>that gets thrown up there every once in a while.

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<v Speaker 1>But Bill, this has been just a fascinating conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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01:16:08.600 --> 01:16:11.920
<v Speaker 1>It feels like we could definitely maybe even talk again

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01:16:12.239 --> 01:16:17.760
<v Speaker 1>in the future someday. Uh maybe Uh take take a

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01:16:17.760 --> 01:16:22.039
<v Speaker 1>little bit of time to uh to analyze everything and

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01:16:22.359 --> 01:16:27.079
<v Speaker 1>to look through everything, and but uh, you have really

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01:16:27.119 --> 01:16:32.039
<v Speaker 1>gone down a very interesting path over the last few years.

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<v Speaker 1>And thank you for sharing what you've experienced so far.

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<v Speaker 2>You're welcome, and it's a pleasure to be able to

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01:16:38.600 --> 01:16:41.479
<v Speaker 2>do so, because I'm really starved for conversation about this,

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01:16:41.680 --> 01:16:44.199
<v Speaker 2>even my friends. And I got a friend in Idaho,

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01:16:44.239 --> 01:16:46.920
<v Speaker 2>and I'll tell him about the female having called out

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01:16:46.960 --> 01:16:48.720
<v Speaker 2>to me the other morning, and I just get met

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01:16:48.760 --> 01:16:53.039
<v Speaker 2>with silence, and and I'm ready to say, does this

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01:16:53.119 --> 01:16:55.800
<v Speaker 2>scare you? Why? Why can't because it means a lot

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01:16:55.840 --> 01:16:58.119
<v Speaker 2>to me? But you know, how frustrated would you be

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01:16:58.600 --> 01:17:00.920
<v Speaker 2>in not being able to talk to someone about something

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01:17:00.960 --> 01:17:05.079
<v Speaker 2>that means a lot to you drive you nuts?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, absolutely, And I think a lot of people

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01:17:08.319 --> 01:17:15.880
<v Speaker 1>probably listening to this can also empathize with that. Yeah,

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01:17:14.880 --> 01:17:21.039
<v Speaker 1>it's it's hard to find people that are understanding about

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01:17:22.119 --> 01:17:25.520
<v Speaker 1>this subject to talk to, for sure.

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01:17:27.079 --> 01:17:27.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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01:17:27.399 --> 01:17:30.920
<v Speaker 1>But but Bill, I would say, you know, definitely, let's

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01:17:31.000 --> 01:17:35.239
<v Speaker 1>let's keep in touch, and I think we should. We

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01:17:35.239 --> 01:17:38.720
<v Speaker 1>should definitely have another conversation in the future. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>been a pleasure talking to you tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I appreciate that it's been a pleasure for you

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01:17:43.600 --> 01:17:45.479
<v Speaker 2>to have me on and you just reach out whenever

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01:17:45.520 --> 01:17:48.000
<v Speaker 2>you would like, and I would be happy to be

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<v Speaker 2>on it. And I'm going to look for some Robert

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01:17:49.920 --> 01:17:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Morgan stuff I have because I've got his original I've

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01:17:52.960 --> 01:17:56.199
<v Speaker 2>got that original tape that says essentially, if you want

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01:17:56.199 --> 01:17:58.479
<v Speaker 2>to get into Bigfoot and listen to this, I'll give

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01:17:58.479 --> 01:18:01.479
<v Speaker 2>you the tips and you'll be on your And I'd

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01:18:01.560 --> 01:18:03.279
<v Speaker 2>be happy to get that to you if you wanted to.

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01:18:03.880 --> 01:18:06.039
<v Speaker 2>If you can somehow make a copy off cassette and

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01:18:06.159 --> 01:18:08.079
<v Speaker 2>send it back to me, then you'd be able to

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01:18:08.199 --> 01:18:09.560
<v Speaker 2>use that moving forward as well.

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01:18:09.680 --> 01:18:12.039
<v Speaker 1>Oh, that would be fantastic. I mean I would do

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01:18:12.119 --> 01:18:14.079
<v Speaker 1>whatever it takes to try to figure out how to

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01:18:14.119 --> 01:18:16.840
<v Speaker 1>do that. Yeah, that would be good.

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01:18:17.359 --> 01:18:20.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And they and they sell cassettes these days, so

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01:18:21.000 --> 01:18:22.640
<v Speaker 2>you know it'd be Maybe it's as easy as me

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01:18:22.720 --> 01:18:25.439
<v Speaker 2>buying a cassette and letting the thing record into my

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01:18:25.479 --> 01:18:28.039
<v Speaker 2>digital audio that I do voice work on there up

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01:18:28.039 --> 01:18:29.840
<v Speaker 2>there and turn it into an MP three file and

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01:18:30.199 --> 01:18:33.000
<v Speaker 2>nail that. So that's possible too. But I'd be happy

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<v Speaker 2>to help you. Well, good luck to you. I appreciate

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01:18:35.880 --> 01:18:39.039
<v Speaker 2>everything that you do for this subject, and I'll be

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01:18:39.079 --> 01:18:41.960
<v Speaker 2>sure to get anything I can do to help you.

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01:18:42.119 --> 01:18:43.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm here to help and I appreciate you letting me

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<v Speaker 2>be on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, sir, Yes sir, We talk to you later. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Bill. All right, Jeremiah, I have a good night. Take

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<v Speaker 2>care of yourself, you too.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to take a few and it's to

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