WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.280 --> 00:00:02.040 Baby, I'm a gangster too. 2 00:00:02.759 --> 00:00:06.320 It takes a little tangle. You don't mess with me. 3 00:00:06.599 --> 00:00:08.800 Mess with me, baby, I'm a gangster. 4 00:00:09.000 --> 00:00:15.400 To coach, baby, you're a. 5 00:00:15.519 --> 00:00:26.679 Gangstatoo for good warnings, this podcast is designed to take 6 00:00:26.719 --> 00:00:29.800 you outside of your comfort zone and make you question reality. 7 00:00:30.239 --> 00:00:42.560 Listener discretion is a vibe, Fellas, This ain't my first 8 00:00:42.679 --> 00:00:43.880 time at the rodeo. 9 00:00:54.200 --> 00:00:58.759 Welcome to the Occult Rejects. This episode, I got Julia 10 00:00:58.960 --> 00:01:02.119 Cosrick Peach back with us again. The last few times 11 00:01:02.159 --> 00:01:04.879 that we've had her on it's been a blest. We 12 00:01:04.959 --> 00:01:07.000 went live, it's very interactive chat. 13 00:01:07.200 --> 00:01:09.480 Fans loved us. So how to bring it back again 14 00:01:09.519 --> 00:01:10.680 and we all live? 15 00:01:11.640 --> 00:01:11.760 Uh? 16 00:01:11.879 --> 00:01:14.879 And I got joining me, I got your cult reject 17 00:01:14.920 --> 00:01:18.840 man scientist Lisa, and I got my man headless Giant. 18 00:01:20.519 --> 00:01:22.760 How do you say that? What's that label you got 19 00:01:22.799 --> 00:01:23.120 over there? 20 00:01:23.560 --> 00:01:24.879 Hellenic gitz up poster? 21 00:01:25.439 --> 00:01:33.959 Yes, very very very fair. Good morning, yeah headless yeah 22 00:01:34.319 --> 00:01:36.599 yeah yeah. You know he's been on a roll lately. 23 00:01:36.640 --> 00:01:37.359 You gotta go check this. 24 00:01:40.640 --> 00:01:43.920 We've got a bunch of good emails coming up for 25 00:01:44.040 --> 00:01:48.280 the for the next reading of your occult slash paranormal stories. 26 00:01:48.439 --> 00:01:49.920 So I'm really excited about that. 27 00:01:50.159 --> 00:01:53.799 Yeah again again Please, I'm glad Headless is here to 28 00:01:53.799 --> 00:01:55.799 plug it again before we get into the show. Please, 29 00:01:55.840 --> 00:01:58.159 if you have any of these stories, any like weird 30 00:01:58.319 --> 00:02:02.159 dreams of cult ever listen off again Headless, please email 31 00:02:02.200 --> 00:02:02.920 my man Headless. 32 00:02:03.719 --> 00:02:09.240 Esoteric stories, occult stories, paranormal stories, dreams that you have 33 00:02:09.400 --> 00:02:12.719 recurring or strange occurrences in your family. You can email 34 00:02:12.800 --> 00:02:15.800 me at Headless Giant podcast at gmail dot com and 35 00:02:15.919 --> 00:02:18.039 I will get those read up on the air. So 36 00:02:18.360 --> 00:02:18.919 check that out. 37 00:02:19.319 --> 00:02:21.400 Yeah, it should be fun. We've actually been getting email. Well, 38 00:02:21.439 --> 00:02:23.039 he's been getting the emails in and I think it's 39 00:02:23.080 --> 00:02:26.280 gonna be some fun stuff. Definitely looking forward to that. 40 00:02:27.199 --> 00:02:28.560 And uh yeah you want to let it? Did you 41 00:02:28.560 --> 00:02:29.400 already plug your show? 42 00:02:30.840 --> 00:02:32.039 Me podcast? 43 00:02:32.240 --> 00:02:35.639 Okay, no, no, not you get Julia, We're gonna do Headless. 44 00:02:35.800 --> 00:02:38.159 I'll give you. Did you plug your podcast already? 45 00:02:38.639 --> 00:02:41.159 Check me out on YouTube Headless Giant Podcasts. You'll find 46 00:02:41.199 --> 00:02:41.479 me there. 47 00:02:42.000 --> 00:02:46.919 Awesome, Thank you now true the main guest, Julia. 48 00:02:47.800 --> 00:02:51.800 I am wherever you listen to podcasts, just you know, 49 00:02:52.000 --> 00:02:59.000 not YouTube course, because fuck them. And I'm on Cult 50 00:02:59.039 --> 00:03:01.960 of Conspiracy podcas cast every Saturday. I do a show 51 00:03:02.039 --> 00:03:06.680 for them once a week and yes, and so if 52 00:03:06.719 --> 00:03:09.639 you want to check that out, it's called colt Ex 53 00:03:09.840 --> 00:03:13.199 Cosmic every Saturday, and then I of course have my 54 00:03:13.280 --> 00:03:16.840 own show, Cosmic Peach and then coming up around the corner, 55 00:03:16.960 --> 00:03:19.639 I don't have like a release date yet, but Colby 56 00:03:19.680 --> 00:03:21.639 and I are starting a new show. It's called The 57 00:03:21.759 --> 00:03:25.199 kill Room and it's going to be featured on my 58 00:03:25.360 --> 00:03:28.120 show as well, and I'm really excited about that actually 59 00:03:28.199 --> 00:03:30.680 because he has such a different take on things than 60 00:03:30.719 --> 00:03:34.879 I do and it makes for interesting conversation. So I'm 61 00:03:34.919 --> 00:03:36.520 really looking forward to that as well. 62 00:03:37.639 --> 00:03:40.479 That is awesome, nice, nice, And that's really cool. With 63 00:03:40.520 --> 00:03:44.120 the Culture Conspiracy, I've been dealing with those guys for 64 00:03:44.159 --> 00:03:45.759 a few years now, and like every few months we'll 65 00:03:45.759 --> 00:03:48.520 get together and do something. I really do like those guys. 66 00:03:48.560 --> 00:03:51.639 I highly suggest to go check them out, and I will. 67 00:03:51.800 --> 00:03:53.560 Me and Teresa are actually going to be covering a 68 00:03:53.639 --> 00:03:57.319 topic on their show Tuesday, so the show really Yes, yes, 69 00:03:57.599 --> 00:03:58.800 covering the Saint Klamafia. 70 00:03:59.560 --> 00:04:00.400 Oh that's awesome. 71 00:04:00.879 --> 00:04:03.599 Yeah, yeah, yeah, those guys are fun. Then they're fun 72 00:04:03.639 --> 00:04:04.719 to talk shit. 73 00:04:04.599 --> 00:04:07.479 With with a crazy cult leader. 74 00:04:10.759 --> 00:04:13.199 No, but you know what, like I just even like 75 00:04:13.280 --> 00:04:18.079 sometimes they don't agree, still goes great. It's not to explain. Yeah, really, 76 00:04:18.120 --> 00:04:20.560 I really do like having those guys on because you. 77 00:04:20.519 --> 00:04:26.560 Can have people prefer that though. Yeah, nobody likes an 78 00:04:26.639 --> 00:04:31.800 echo chamber, and I think that's why people enjoy when 79 00:04:31.839 --> 00:04:34.360 Colby and I get together. Actually, I went on we 80 00:04:34.480 --> 00:04:38.040 went on the White Rabbit podcast the other night, and 81 00:04:38.240 --> 00:04:40.800 he was saying how he listened to our series called 82 00:04:40.839 --> 00:04:43.360 blood Ties, and he said, you guys don't really agree 83 00:04:43.439 --> 00:04:45.839 on stuff, and you'll just hash it out right there 84 00:04:45.920 --> 00:04:51.000 on the spot. And I think that's refreshing. That people 85 00:04:51.079 --> 00:04:54.560 don't always agree on certain things. Makes you think harder 86 00:04:54.639 --> 00:04:59.879 about whether or not you have all the information you know, right, 87 00:05:00.040 --> 00:05:00.720 And different. 88 00:05:00.519 --> 00:05:03.519 Opinions actually don't hurt everybody. 89 00:05:03.240 --> 00:05:04.560 Right mm hmm. 90 00:05:05.079 --> 00:05:05.279 Yeah. 91 00:05:05.360 --> 00:05:07.720 And I mean even with the topic tonight, we're all 92 00:05:07.800 --> 00:05:10.439 probably going to have different opinions at the end, and 93 00:05:10.519 --> 00:05:12.680 I'm actually going to ask you guys what you think 94 00:05:13.279 --> 00:05:18.160 at the end. But there are certain things that cannot 95 00:05:18.240 --> 00:05:20.600 be disputed, and then there are certain things that are 96 00:05:20.720 --> 00:05:22.720 up for debate. So we'll see at the end where 97 00:05:22.759 --> 00:05:26.000 you guys stand on everything. But I'm actually really excited 98 00:05:26.040 --> 00:05:28.319 to get into the topic today as well, because it's 99 00:05:28.360 --> 00:05:30.600 something that I'm really passionate about. 100 00:05:31.600 --> 00:05:33.439 Well, I remember a long time ago when you told 101 00:05:33.439 --> 00:05:34.480 me you were even working. 102 00:05:34.279 --> 00:05:37.040 On Yeah, I've been working on it for a couple 103 00:05:37.079 --> 00:05:39.040 of years now and just keep adding stuff to it. 104 00:05:40.800 --> 00:05:42.360 That's why I like when I saw that you're even 105 00:05:42.399 --> 00:05:45.240 doing it again, it reminded me of you telling me 106 00:05:45.319 --> 00:05:46.639 that you were getting into that. I mean, this is 107 00:05:46.680 --> 00:05:47.560 probably going years ago. 108 00:05:48.160 --> 00:05:48.480 Mm hm. 109 00:05:49.199 --> 00:05:50.800 I was like, oh shit, I gotta get off of that. 110 00:05:50.920 --> 00:05:53.319 I never actually superad the topic. That was one of 111 00:05:53.319 --> 00:05:54.519 the topics we never spoke about. 112 00:05:54.519 --> 00:05:58.399 Actually, yeah, no, it's it's a big one, that's for sure. 113 00:05:58.519 --> 00:06:00.720 So I mean kind of like the last couple of 114 00:06:00.759 --> 00:06:04.079 times I've been on the Occult Rejects. If this spills 115 00:06:04.120 --> 00:06:06.839 over into two parts, you know, so be it. But 116 00:06:07.600 --> 00:06:09.959 I feel like it's you know, it's early enough in 117 00:06:10.040 --> 00:06:12.240 the afternoon we might be able to squeeze it all 118 00:06:12.319 --> 00:06:15.319 into one, but we've been meeting so late at night 119 00:06:15.800 --> 00:06:17.600 the last couple of times. I feel bad for you 120 00:06:17.720 --> 00:06:19.720 guys because I just keep going on and on and 121 00:06:19.839 --> 00:06:21.639 you guys, it's like to it in the morning, like. 122 00:06:23.000 --> 00:06:32.680 Shut up. No, I've been loving it, thank you, all right, so, uh, 123 00:06:33.000 --> 00:06:33.560 do you want to get in? 124 00:06:33.759 --> 00:06:34.759 I mean, just dive it? 125 00:06:35.399 --> 00:06:36.519 Sure, yeah, have at it? 126 00:06:36.639 --> 00:06:37.600 Have yes? 127 00:06:38.040 --> 00:06:41.160 All right, Well, so we're gonna be talking about Marilyn 128 00:06:41.240 --> 00:06:47.600 Monroe on today's episode. And of course, you know, as 129 00:06:47.680 --> 00:06:51.360 I always say, I think all you need to do 130 00:06:51.600 --> 00:06:54.839 to sell a mainstream narrative to people is have a 131 00:06:55.160 --> 00:07:00.879 documentary on either HBO or Netflix with some great visuals 132 00:07:01.199 --> 00:07:05.399 and some catchy background music, and you will one hundred 133 00:07:05.480 --> 00:07:10.240 percent fucking brainwash everyone into thinking that's the mainstream narrative. 134 00:07:10.759 --> 00:07:15.079 And there is no shortage of Maryland documentaries on either 135 00:07:15.279 --> 00:07:20.160 Netflix or HBO, and they all sell you the same thing. 136 00:07:20.279 --> 00:07:26.360 Marilyn was a severely depressed woman. She was promiscuous, she 137 00:07:26.519 --> 00:07:30.000 had a bunch of weird sexual affairs, and she got 138 00:07:30.079 --> 00:07:35.720 really depressed. She committed suicide. She overdosed on sedative drugs 139 00:07:36.319 --> 00:07:41.439 and she was found nude in her home in Hollywood. 140 00:07:41.480 --> 00:07:47.480 I believe her some part of California, and she, you know, 141 00:07:47.600 --> 00:07:49.759 she did it to herself. And that's all that we 142 00:07:49.920 --> 00:07:53.240 need to know is she was fucked up, depressed, took 143 00:07:53.279 --> 00:07:56.040 a bunch of pills, killed herself. And they do a 144 00:07:56.079 --> 00:07:58.560 great job selling you that story, and they even have. 145 00:07:58.720 --> 00:08:01.199 In one of the Netflix docum mineries, they interview a 146 00:08:01.240 --> 00:08:04.959 guy that was her psychiatrist. They interview his family. His 147 00:08:05.120 --> 00:08:09.240 name was doctor Green or something like that. It's in 148 00:08:09.319 --> 00:08:12.360 my notes and we'll get to it. But I mean, 149 00:08:12.560 --> 00:08:14.680 I don't know where you guys stand on it, but 150 00:08:15.120 --> 00:08:18.639 I've always thought, even as great of a sales job 151 00:08:18.720 --> 00:08:20.879 as they do, like there had to be more to 152 00:08:21.000 --> 00:08:24.000 this story, especially because of who she was. I mean, 153 00:08:24.519 --> 00:08:26.680 you guys can jump in. What did you did you 154 00:08:26.800 --> 00:08:29.319 always think like, Okay, for sure she killed herself? Or 155 00:08:29.360 --> 00:08:30.759 did you always have questions? 156 00:08:31.920 --> 00:08:31.959 No? 157 00:08:32.120 --> 00:08:33.840 I always thought as a kid, I always thought like 158 00:08:33.919 --> 00:08:36.159 even Elvis Presley and her stories were always like. 159 00:08:40.240 --> 00:08:41.559 So, Lisa, what do you think? 160 00:08:42.440 --> 00:08:46.039 I always thought someone else killed her, always. 161 00:08:45.720 --> 00:08:50.759 Thought that, like, did you did you have any suspects. 162 00:08:51.120 --> 00:08:55.200 The Kennedys was one, for sure, or the CIA her 163 00:08:55.240 --> 00:09:00.360 handlers that maybe she I think when I I didn't 164 00:09:00.399 --> 00:09:02.879 know initially, when I first heard the story, I was like, no, 165 00:09:03.320 --> 00:09:05.879 she seemed too vain to have killed herself that way 166 00:09:06.559 --> 00:09:11.039 or just killed herself period. Plus I think that she 167 00:09:11.240 --> 00:09:15.320 probably initially is she probably was told some secrets that 168 00:09:15.440 --> 00:09:18.440 they didn't want people to know that maybe she was 169 00:09:18.879 --> 00:09:21.639 privy to something. And then as time went on and 170 00:09:21.679 --> 00:09:24.360 I heard more, I thought, you know what, I think 171 00:09:24.399 --> 00:09:28.240 they killed her because she was going off scripta in 172 00:09:28.320 --> 00:09:33.120 a way that you know, was threatening to her what 173 00:09:33.399 --> 00:09:36.360 her job originally was, or that they were. She had 174 00:09:36.399 --> 00:09:41.440 become some some kind of like, I don't know, volatile. 175 00:09:41.879 --> 00:09:43.600 You know, they couldn't handle her anymore. 176 00:09:44.960 --> 00:09:47.679 Yeah, yeah, I mean headless. What did you think? 177 00:09:48.559 --> 00:09:51.159 I I grew up at a Christian home, so she 178 00:09:51.320 --> 00:09:55.559 was always the example of, you know, this is what 179 00:09:55.679 --> 00:09:59.840 a decadent lifestyle will lead to. So it wasn't until 180 00:09:59.879 --> 00:10:01.639 my later that I was like, this doesn't make a 181 00:10:01.679 --> 00:10:03.519 lot of sense. She was connected to a lot of 182 00:10:03.639 --> 00:10:07.559 very powerful people and all of a sudden, you know, 183 00:10:08.200 --> 00:10:10.519 having this great life and everything else, she decides to 184 00:10:10.600 --> 00:10:12.279 kill herself. That doesn't make a lot of sense. 185 00:10:13.240 --> 00:10:17.039 So she was kind of a cautionary tale in your household. 186 00:10:18.440 --> 00:10:21.519 That's kind of funny to me. But I mean, so, 187 00:10:22.240 --> 00:10:23.960 there are a few things I want to get out 188 00:10:24.200 --> 00:10:29.399 right away, because I do believe that Marilyn Monroe, even 189 00:10:29.480 --> 00:10:35.879 the name the double m Marilyn Monroe, monarch mind control, 190 00:10:36.159 --> 00:10:39.080 stuff like that to me stands out. It does appear 191 00:10:39.159 --> 00:10:43.480 that she probably had multiple personalities. She was probably in 192 00:10:43.600 --> 00:10:46.120 some type of sex kit. And you know how they 193 00:10:46.320 --> 00:10:50.879 like to use beautiful, famous women in those type of roles, 194 00:10:51.440 --> 00:10:54.159 And she grew up in orphanages, so it wasn't like 195 00:10:54.240 --> 00:10:58.879 anybody gave a fuck what happened to her. They essentially 196 00:10:59.080 --> 00:11:02.720 created a cartoon character out of a real person. Her 197 00:11:02.840 --> 00:11:07.720 name was Norma Jeane and they turned her into Marilyn Monroe. 198 00:11:07.840 --> 00:11:10.480 They literally bleached her hair. She got a nose job, 199 00:11:12.000 --> 00:11:15.799 they And so it was to me, I always look 200 00:11:15.879 --> 00:11:21.840 at if someone has multiple personality disorder or d ID whatever. 201 00:11:22.519 --> 00:11:26.879 They're usually the ones that start off as normal people 202 00:11:27.080 --> 00:11:30.480 and then abruptly have like a bleached hair moment. And 203 00:11:30.559 --> 00:11:35.080 if you look at it, Eminem bleached hair, Kanye went crazy, 204 00:11:35.240 --> 00:11:38.679 bleached his hair, Lady Gaga started off normal but then 205 00:11:38.720 --> 00:11:41.480 bleached her hair, and now I think she's a trans weirdo, 206 00:11:41.639 --> 00:11:44.919 which and so I mean, you just look at it, 207 00:11:45.120 --> 00:11:48.480 and it's like the bleaching of the hair is almost 208 00:11:48.600 --> 00:11:52.840 like the signal of all right, this person's undergone some 209 00:11:53.200 --> 00:11:57.799 fucking programming, and now you know they have an alter 210 00:11:57.960 --> 00:12:02.440 identity in weird yeah, because they bleach their hair and 211 00:12:02.519 --> 00:12:05.039 they literally go fucking nuts. And if you look at 212 00:12:05.159 --> 00:12:10.799 any celebrity, even like Lindsay Lohan, she was a ginger 213 00:12:10.919 --> 00:12:13.120 and she was so cute, she was on the Disney Channel, 214 00:12:13.399 --> 00:12:16.759 bleached her hair, started faking a British accent, and nobody 215 00:12:16.840 --> 00:12:20.159 fucking knows what's wrong with her now. And so I 216 00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:22.879 just think that that's something that you can look at 217 00:12:23.240 --> 00:12:26.919 as being odd, you know, like why do they suddenly 218 00:12:26.960 --> 00:12:30.080 bleach their hair and they can become a completely different 219 00:12:30.159 --> 00:12:34.320 person overnight. And I don't think Marilyn is, you know, 220 00:12:35.000 --> 00:12:38.080 I don't think she is immune to that. I think 221 00:12:38.159 --> 00:12:44.879 she's like example, exhibit A of multiple personality disorder. And 222 00:12:46.639 --> 00:12:52.440 I think that, oh yeah, go ahead. Sure. 223 00:12:52.960 --> 00:12:55.840 So the movie The Long Kiss Good Night with Geena 224 00:12:55.960 --> 00:13:00.960 Davis is where you've got this mk ultra assassin played 225 00:13:00.960 --> 00:13:03.039 by Geena Davis who gets kicked in the head by 226 00:13:03.080 --> 00:13:05.799 a deer that she hits on the road, loses her memory, 227 00:13:06.320 --> 00:13:08.840 and then she comes back. The memory comes back and 228 00:13:08.960 --> 00:13:11.600 she starts to remember that she's an assassin. And what's 229 00:13:11.639 --> 00:13:14.960 the very first thing she does. She bleaches her hair. 230 00:13:15.519 --> 00:13:19.759 Oh dude, See, I'm telling you, it's crazy, and it's 231 00:13:19.799 --> 00:13:22.279 not to say, like if somebody's got a bad breakup 232 00:13:22.320 --> 00:13:24.360 and they want to stick it to their fucking ex 233 00:13:24.440 --> 00:13:26.480 boyfriend and they don't bleach their hair like you have 234 00:13:26.600 --> 00:13:29.240 multiple personnelity. I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about 235 00:13:29.279 --> 00:13:33.559 celebrities who you see go through a huge transformation almost 236 00:13:33.639 --> 00:13:35.919 overnight with the bleaching of the hair and like the 237 00:13:36.039 --> 00:13:40.759 complete identity switch. And she really pushed the blood diamonds. 238 00:13:40.879 --> 00:13:44.000 She was like the spokesperson for that. You know, diamonds 239 00:13:44.039 --> 00:13:49.360 are a girl's best friend. We got a comment, Hey, 240 00:13:49.399 --> 00:13:49.840 what's up? 241 00:13:50.399 --> 00:13:50.879 What's up? 242 00:13:53.039 --> 00:13:58.039 And so I mean, I think and Nick is probably 243 00:13:58.120 --> 00:14:00.600 gonna give you more information than I can about this, 244 00:14:00.759 --> 00:14:03.720 And I'm actually kind of glad we're covering this with 245 00:14:03.919 --> 00:14:08.360 him because I've found weird numbers surrounding her and I've 246 00:14:08.440 --> 00:14:10.799 always had an idea of what I think they mean, 247 00:14:10.879 --> 00:14:14.279 but Nick might be able to elaborate on this. But 248 00:14:14.480 --> 00:14:18.759 there's a lot of eights around Maryland. So I mean, 249 00:14:18.840 --> 00:14:21.279 I've always thought of the eight as like the snake 250 00:14:21.320 --> 00:14:26.039 eating its tail, the infinity symbol. And she did die 251 00:14:26.159 --> 00:14:29.480 on August fourth, sixty two and six and two is eight, 252 00:14:30.279 --> 00:14:33.720 so and then like I believe her address had some 253 00:14:33.919 --> 00:14:37.240 aids in it, And I mean, what do you think 254 00:14:37.360 --> 00:14:40.440 about that, nick, because you probably know more about that shit. 255 00:14:40.279 --> 00:14:40.679 Than I do. 256 00:14:42.919 --> 00:14:43.879 It's just the eight. 257 00:14:43.960 --> 00:14:47.000 I mean, it's numerical. I mean I like it because 258 00:14:47.039 --> 00:14:51.519 of the magician. I think it does show like the 259 00:14:51.639 --> 00:14:55.639 continuation of cycles of like life and death shows a 260 00:14:55.799 --> 00:15:01.159 unyoked eyes sense. For me, it's a pretty deeply occulted 261 00:15:01.919 --> 00:15:07.840 in my opinion, shape or number or sigil. The hell 262 00:15:07.919 --> 00:15:09.480 did you want to add anything on that yourself? 263 00:15:10.120 --> 00:15:15.240 Yeah, it's sort of like so much society, right, Fives, eights, 264 00:15:15.320 --> 00:15:18.559 and thirteen seems to be like the pattern breakers. Right. 265 00:15:18.759 --> 00:15:21.480 So for five, you know, you've got the perfection of 266 00:15:21.519 --> 00:15:24.159 the four being the four side stability, and then the 267 00:15:24.240 --> 00:15:26.799 fifth is like the pattern breaker, and then you've got 268 00:15:26.840 --> 00:15:29.000 the seven, like the seven planets and all the rest 269 00:15:29.039 --> 00:15:31.399 of these holy sevens. And then the pattern breaker would 270 00:15:31.440 --> 00:15:34.120 be the eight twelve, you know, twelve signs of the zodiac, 271 00:15:34.120 --> 00:15:36.600 all the rest of that stuff. In theteen. You know, 272 00:15:36.679 --> 00:15:38.480 these are the ones that sort of stand out in 273 00:15:38.559 --> 00:15:40.960 numerology is being the pattern breaker. And if you look 274 00:15:40.960 --> 00:15:44.759 at her role as being the you know, putting to 275 00:15:44.840 --> 00:15:49.279 bed all the nineteen fifties sort of value based systems, 276 00:15:49.399 --> 00:15:50.960 you know, kind of that cautionary tale. 277 00:15:51.000 --> 00:15:51.240 Again. 278 00:15:51.639 --> 00:15:54.000 She was the kind of pattern breaker on that whole 279 00:15:54.240 --> 00:15:56.759 nineteen fifties moral aesthetic. 280 00:15:58.039 --> 00:16:00.279 And I think, you know, I've talked to Sean Can 281 00:16:00.360 --> 00:16:02.000 about this a little bit too, and he has this 282 00:16:02.080 --> 00:16:07.200 whole octagon theory and the gosh, what is that thing 283 00:16:07.279 --> 00:16:09.840 that he's always talking about in Satanism? It's like a 284 00:16:09.919 --> 00:16:14.080 cube that keeps extruding from itself. What is that thing called? 285 00:16:14.159 --> 00:16:16.200 Do you know what I'm talking about. It's like a 286 00:16:16.360 --> 00:16:20.320 cube within a cube within a cube, and it just yeah, 287 00:16:20.360 --> 00:16:22.080 and it just keeps going out, and it's like an 288 00:16:22.120 --> 00:16:25.240 eight sided and it just keeps expanding. And that's also 289 00:16:25.320 --> 00:16:28.759 why they use the octagon and like sporting stuff and 290 00:16:29.440 --> 00:16:32.919 the eight sided. It's just there's the tesseract. Yeah, there 291 00:16:32.960 --> 00:16:36.440 you go. Yeah, So, I mean, I do believe that 292 00:16:36.559 --> 00:16:39.480 the eight is significant. I went on a Google search 293 00:16:39.559 --> 00:16:42.519 one day and I just googled like major tragedies that 294 00:16:42.679 --> 00:16:45.679 happened in August and like a lot of fucking shit. 295 00:16:45.759 --> 00:16:49.360 It's like they specifically use August to conduct a lot 296 00:16:49.440 --> 00:16:52.440 of these fucking rituals and shit. And I don't find 297 00:16:52.519 --> 00:16:56.080 it at all. A coincidence. She died August fourth in 298 00:16:56.200 --> 00:17:01.879 an eight year sixty two, So it's just that stuck 299 00:17:01.960 --> 00:17:06.480 out to me. And without even getting into too much 300 00:17:06.599 --> 00:17:09.279 conspiracy theory stuff right off the bat, there is one 301 00:17:09.359 --> 00:17:10.960 more thing I want to mention though, before I get 302 00:17:11.000 --> 00:17:17.119 into like the like the autopsy findings. But you guys 303 00:17:17.160 --> 00:17:22.759 are familiar with Eyes White Shut, right, Yes, okay? The 304 00:17:22.839 --> 00:17:25.240 little girl in Eyes White Shut, her name is Helena, 305 00:17:25.920 --> 00:17:29.400 and she's supposed to be getting inducted, in my opinion, 306 00:17:29.559 --> 00:17:33.599 into this this monarch mind control sex kit and fucking 307 00:17:34.000 --> 00:17:38.319 occult ring of women. And it pretty much shows you 308 00:17:38.440 --> 00:17:40.759 that at the end because when they're in the toy store, 309 00:17:42.039 --> 00:17:44.920 she gets led off by two weird guys at the 310 00:17:45.039 --> 00:17:52.319 end of the movie and yeah, Teresa, I fucking yeah, exactly. 311 00:17:52.599 --> 00:17:56.160 I did a show with Teresa about the eights. What Teresa, 312 00:17:56.200 --> 00:18:02.839 why isn't your ass on here? Anyways, at the end 313 00:18:02.880 --> 00:18:05.880 of Ours Wide Shut, Helena gets let off by two guys, 314 00:18:05.960 --> 00:18:09.960 and it's almost as if Alice the mom knows about this. 315 00:18:10.240 --> 00:18:12.519 Maybe Alice is a part of the program as well, 316 00:18:12.839 --> 00:18:16.000 and she's almost letting them take her daughter away. And 317 00:18:16.240 --> 00:18:18.480 in the toy store there's a weird scene where in 318 00:18:18.559 --> 00:18:21.039 the background there's a bunch of Barbies and the main 319 00:18:21.119 --> 00:18:25.200 focus on the barbie is this Marilyn Monroe barbie and 320 00:18:25.359 --> 00:18:28.759 it's headless. Do you know which barbie it is? I 321 00:18:28.839 --> 00:18:32.160 can't remember. It's like, I. 322 00:18:32.240 --> 00:18:35.319 Remember one of them. I know the scene you're talking about. 323 00:18:35.319 --> 00:18:36.559 I just can't remember what barbie that is. 324 00:18:36.640 --> 00:18:40.039 But it's a Marilyn Barbie. I can't remember what movie 325 00:18:40.119 --> 00:18:44.240 it is, but it's it's a weird scene for showing 326 00:18:44.319 --> 00:18:48.680 Helena walking down the toys uh toy store and there's 327 00:18:48.720 --> 00:18:51.480 two guys that are following her and they're obviously gonna 328 00:18:51.519 --> 00:18:54.960 lead her off and they it's almost like Stanley Kuber 329 00:18:55.079 --> 00:18:58.680 put the shot of this Marylynd barbie like right there, 330 00:18:58.799 --> 00:19:01.240 so it's in your focal You do notice that you 331 00:19:01.319 --> 00:19:02.079 do see it there. 332 00:19:02.400 --> 00:19:03.279 You're supposed to see it. 333 00:19:04.039 --> 00:19:07.160 Yeah, you're supposed to see it. And you know the 334 00:19:08.480 --> 00:19:13.640 the street that Marilyn lived on was Helena Drive. So 335 00:19:14.160 --> 00:19:17.200 I think it's significant that they put these things in 336 00:19:17.319 --> 00:19:20.640 there to kind of link everything together. 337 00:19:23.359 --> 00:19:26.880 Well, I think it's very important the name Helena too, 338 00:19:27.119 --> 00:19:30.000 because even back to the one of the most widely 339 00:19:30.480 --> 00:19:34.200 you know read and understood mythologies goes back to the 340 00:19:35.039 --> 00:19:38.400 Iliad and that was all sparked off by Helen of Troy, 341 00:19:38.519 --> 00:19:41.000 and they even called everything having to do with the 342 00:19:41.039 --> 00:19:45.559 Greek religion is Helenism, right, so this is like the 343 00:19:46.079 --> 00:19:49.240 ultimate prize will also be also being like the ultimate 344 00:19:49.680 --> 00:19:54.880 you know, sort of downfall of man's right, that concept there, it's. 345 00:19:54.839 --> 00:19:58.680 Like the Greek goddess kind of weirdness to around Maryland, 346 00:19:58.839 --> 00:20:02.559 around the eyes shut thing. It's all kind of ritualistic 347 00:20:02.680 --> 00:20:07.680 and it almost reeks of like ancient religion almost. So 348 00:20:10.079 --> 00:20:13.359 without going too far into conspiracy, because I did say this, 349 00:20:13.759 --> 00:20:18.039 I think to Lisa, but without even going down the 350 00:20:18.119 --> 00:20:21.759 conspiracy theory road, I can prove that Marilyn didn't kill 351 00:20:21.799 --> 00:20:26.400 herself just with scientific evidence. And so I mean, if 352 00:20:26.480 --> 00:20:29.359 anybody walks away from this episode with a doubt in 353 00:20:29.400 --> 00:20:33.799 their mind, I'd be fucking surprised, because I was just 354 00:20:33.960 --> 00:20:37.200 absolutely appalled when I came across this shit in a 355 00:20:37.279 --> 00:20:39.319 book and I was like, why don't more people know 356 00:20:39.400 --> 00:20:41.200 about this? And I was like, oh, yeah, I know, 357 00:20:41.319 --> 00:20:42.960 because I don't want you to know about this stuff. 358 00:20:43.359 --> 00:20:46.359 But so, her official cause of death was a cute 359 00:20:46.400 --> 00:20:50.480 barbituit poisoning, and they said it was a suicide. But 360 00:20:51.640 --> 00:20:57.839 the medical examiner penciled in a word next to suicide 361 00:20:57.880 --> 00:21:01.880 and he put probable, like he wrote that in himself. 362 00:21:02.000 --> 00:21:06.359 He took a pencil and literally wrote probable suicide. So 363 00:21:06.680 --> 00:21:10.519 he wasn't even convinced that that's what really happened. But 364 00:21:10.680 --> 00:21:13.960 they did say it was a self administered overdose of 365 00:21:14.079 --> 00:21:20.119 sedative drugs. That's what they say. But what's weird is 366 00:21:22.240 --> 00:21:26.200 there were absolutely no trace of tablets found in her 367 00:21:26.359 --> 00:21:30.799 stomach at all period. No trace of tablets were found 368 00:21:30.839 --> 00:21:37.079 in her stomach or her intestines. So she had enough 369 00:21:37.720 --> 00:21:43.759 chloral hydrate and nimbutah in her system to legitimately kill 370 00:21:43.799 --> 00:21:50.079 an elephant. They said she had sixty to seventy nimbutah 371 00:21:50.720 --> 00:21:55.720 and nineteen to twenty chloral hydrate tablets the equivalent of 372 00:21:55.799 --> 00:21:59.440 that in her system. But somehow when they crack her open, 373 00:21:59.519 --> 00:22:03.559 there is absolutely no trace of tablets found in the 374 00:22:03.680 --> 00:22:11.160 stomach or the intestine. So, if that's true, and she 375 00:22:11.359 --> 00:22:16.240 had taken sixty to seventy nimbu tall pills and nineteen 376 00:22:16.359 --> 00:22:22.559 to twenty chloral hydrate tablets, digestion stops at death, so 377 00:22:22.720 --> 00:22:26.200 when they cracked her open. There should have been significant 378 00:22:27.160 --> 00:22:32.319 evidence of undigested tablets in her stomach, because you die 379 00:22:32.960 --> 00:22:36.640 before that shit actually has a chance to dissolve, you 380 00:22:36.880 --> 00:22:40.759 die of an overdose fucking five pills in before. We're 381 00:22:40.759 --> 00:22:46.160 talking sixty to seventy Nimbu tall tablets and nineteen to 382 00:22:46.279 --> 00:22:50.440 twenty chloral hydrate tablets. But there was not a fucking 383 00:22:50.920 --> 00:22:54.839 trace in her stomach or her intestines. 384 00:22:55.759 --> 00:22:58.640 I have problem following, like she didn't really like to 385 00:22:58.720 --> 00:23:02.039 take pills or something like that that I remember, dude. 386 00:23:02.119 --> 00:23:05.200 She was a known gagger, and that's right, gentlemen. There 387 00:23:05.319 --> 00:23:08.960 is no perfect woman out there. Marilyn was a gagger. 388 00:23:09.079 --> 00:23:12.000 She fucking gagged, she could, and you know what, we'll 389 00:23:12.039 --> 00:23:14.400 get into it later, but she was a fucking gagging 390 00:23:14.599 --> 00:23:19.640 ass bitch. And the thing is, I am not a gagger, 391 00:23:19.960 --> 00:23:22.960 and I don't even see myself being able to swallow 392 00:23:23.240 --> 00:23:26.119 sixty to seventy pills. Actually, it would have been more 393 00:23:26.160 --> 00:23:28.880 than that, sixty to seventy of one type of pill 394 00:23:29.000 --> 00:23:32.319 and then twenty of another, so uh, hello, who the 395 00:23:32.400 --> 00:23:34.880 fuck is doing You'd have to eat it like cereal. 396 00:23:35.000 --> 00:23:37.119 You'd have to pour them in a bowl. And fucking 397 00:23:37.200 --> 00:23:39.559 put milk and I'm like fucking cheerios and eat them 398 00:23:39.640 --> 00:23:39.799 like that. 399 00:23:40.160 --> 00:23:43.519 There's no way liquid of just trying to swallow all 400 00:23:43.559 --> 00:23:44.599 those pills back to back. 401 00:23:44.839 --> 00:23:49.640