Speaker 1: Hello ladies, gentlemen, and Merry Christmas to teach and every
one of you. I am mister Green, and I'm joined by.
Speaker 2: I am the crack Rock kirkle batzer Ah, and then
Marcaster Domus I'm the no.
Speaker 1: Take it down Taylor Field. Very nice guys. I'll say
I'm trussed now. I just said mister Green. But if
you haven't guessed, and I guess you haven't seen the movie.
It's something like Taylor's quote. You might not know it,
or if you've only seen it once or twice. But
as usual for the holiday seasons or stuff like that,
whenever it comes up, we have an idea for a
patroon poll and they get to throw some suggestions and
the patrons picked our patron producers, so thank everyone on
that tier. They get to pick the movie and lo
and behold, Maddie Sekes's movie The Night Before won the poll.
So that's what we're doing. We're doing The Night Before.
I should have looked at date, Paul. I think it's
like twenty fourteen somewhere in there. Yeah, it is a
Christmas movie. If you've not seen it, and it's seth Rogan,
just go Lovett Anthony Mackie. It would definitely suggest if
you haven't to go watch that come back, but maybe
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worth my time? Because I know a lot. I feel
like a lot of people have seen it retroactively because
I know I don't think it did the grays of
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let's get in this dyl muss the night before, had
you ever seen it before? And what are your thoughts
about it at this current day? December nineteenth, eight, eighteen,
twenty twenty two, the.
Speaker 4: Night before tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I've seen this like two or three
times now in my life, and I think I kind
of forget about it because it has just like the
most generic, forgettable name, and that, honestly might be a
reasonable why you're saying to do well the Boss Box Office,
because I think I like, here's here's what happened. I
watched this movie on Friday night, okay, and we were
meeting on Saturday or Sunday for a podcast and I
was like, oh shit, what is our what is our
movie for the retro Travis? You said a night before.
I'm like, okay, I'll see if I have time for that.
I had forgot the name of the movie like the
day after we had watched it, just by happenstance, without
knowing that I was gonna be talking about on the
podcast in like three days. So if anything, that's a
sign about you know, my that's my review of the title.
Not a great title.
Speaker 4: But so you guys.
Speaker 1: Watched it on your own before realizing it was.
Speaker 2: Yes, and then yeah, I asked you about it the
next day and just totally blanked on the back that
was the name of the movie. But aside from that
I I love this movie. I think it's a lot
of fun. It's it's hilarious. Some goofy stuff there in
terms of like I don't know, like the fantasy element
that's just thrown on one character is particularly interesting.
Speaker 4: But I don't know.
Speaker 2: It just like laughs the whole way through. It's caught
that you know, classic Christmas movie vibe of just being
like kind of happy in the end, and the classic
set robe and stuff of just all the drugs and whatnot.
So I know it's it's great. I mean, if anyone
hasn't watched yet, I think it's a good classic Christmas movie.
If I can ever remember the name, I'm sure I'll
watch it on the a yearly basis. At this point
it's a good one radar two.
Speaker 1: So people are wondering if you watch the families highly
recommend you don't, like, depends what great age group of families,
but family with kids maybe not. You know, there's there's
a couple of questionable moments and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: A couple you'd watch this with your parents or your
in laws. Yeah, I've seen this with my parents.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's like, yeah, I'm not fucking twelve year old,
like Oh my god, there's having sex on O. Look
like you know, says the guy who's watching the home
like lander milk scene with his mom and things like that.
Speaker 4: You know, well, you were playing Call of Duty with
your mom with Travis in the room. That's dangerous.
Speaker 1: We're yeah, worse experience in my life, like call one
night swearing be my whole self and then just saying,
oh yeah, good night mom. She's just sitting there the
whole time while I was just going off of all
the traps.
Speaker 4: Guy's not coming to your wedding, right.
Speaker 2: That happened for me. Recently, I was watching Robert Pattison
movie Trevis. You probably know what it is where they're
like in a space space station.
Speaker 1: Do you know this one life?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was watching that with my mom and dad
and oh my god. That was a huge regret because
it's like fine for the first half an hour, but
that movie is fucked up. Did not recommend it. We
turned it off, and I I mean I wanted to
turn it off when those first couple of scenes happened,
and I'm like this, this was a huge mistake. I
think it's interesting, but in that environment, do I want
to watch it with my mom, that's not not a
good vibe at all.
Speaker 1: We'll see I feel like this is like, yeah, there's
some like racy whatever since but they're all like in
fun manners and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: There quick that one has like long extended scenes that
are very disturbing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe one time we'll do high Life on the podcast.
But yeah, Kirka Patzer, you watched this with your parents?
Did you like it?
Speaker 3: Then?
Speaker 1: Did your parents like it? Do you like it now?
Speaker 4: Yeah? My parents told I this one slipped through the
cracks for me when it came out in theaters. I
don't know what year that happened on, but my parents
saw this before me and then they're like, oh, you
gotta watch this movie. And it was one of those
It must have been the same effect that Dylan was describing,
because I remember like seeing the trailers for this and
thinking that it was amazing and twenty fifteen.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 4: So I love you know, I love seth Rogen and
like those types of movies, so I like, I knew
it would have been up my alley and then I
just completely forgot about it, and then they told me
about it, and then sure enough we watched the trailer
I'm like, oh my god, this is the movie that
I just completely forgot about. And then sure enough we
watched it together and Yeah, I laughed so hard that
first time, like one of those that like really memorable,
like belly laughs were like borliney can't eave. Like I
remember the first time I watched Horrible Bosses. I had
moments like that too, where like I just I couldn't
believe what was going on. And this movie is just
full lighted with it really awesome cast members too, Like
there's a lot of people in there that I just
completely forgot about, but when they pop in, it's a
great time. This is definitely one of my favorite Michael
Shannon rolls of all time. Yeah, he is so fantastic.
I'm so excited to talk about him. And yeah, like
I just just the craziness that goes on to this.
It's it's a nice change of flavor. I guess you
could call it for like a Christmas movie. I've been
watching those this last weekend, watch The Gringe last night,
and then slicing this one in there today. It was
rnch Jim Carrey one.
Speaker 1: Okay, you know, so that's how you got I.
Speaker 4: Know, it's crazy animated one.
Speaker 1: Don't worry about it.
Speaker 4: It's good.
Speaker 1: It's good.
Speaker 2: It's good if it was on Netflix or something that
it's really cute, good animation.
Speaker 4: But I don't know, it's you.
Speaker 1: It's cute if you're a kid, I think, and I
know I know you're a kid. Still kirk him, but
you know, I just like I think it's just it's
it's fine. It's a fine which animated one. There's animated
and there's a hand drawn cartoon Taylor.
Speaker 4: That's rodoscoping. Actually, yeah, you learn about that this year.
Speaker 1: But check out our Lord of the Rings rattels Man.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but finished off my thoughts. This is still just
a great movie. I think. I still like the laughs.
Don't really like get dry for me, Like the more
I see this movie. It's not a movie that I
watch multiple times in a year, but every time I
watch it like it. It definitely gets me laughing. And uh, yeah,
I love this movie. So there you go.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you almost can't just because it's Christmas.
You watched her this month. Yeah, you know that gets
on the shelf for a year and then you come
back to and stuff.
Speaker 4: So I feel like that's one's so ridiculous and like
late night comedy esque. I could just see myself phon
it on. But there is so many in that genre
already that I don't watch regularly, so I am I
just spice, spice slice one of those in there.
Speaker 1: Spice, Taylor, how is this experiencing saw with your mom?
That was great?
Speaker 3: It's like Prana three D all over again.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: This, uh, this one kind of always kind of just
like sweeps unto the radar for me because I would
have seen it not in theaters, I know that much.
I don't know when I would have seen it seen initially.
It must have been streaming at some point. I just
popped it on and watched it. But it's one that
kind of is not a like traditional watch every year,
but it's one that just kind of may pop up
every like two years or something like that. It's like, okay,
like I'm really I am enjoyed.
Speaker 1: Hates it like the Guardian specially.
Speaker 3: I don't think she's ever seen that trash. I don't
think she's ever seen it. I'll have to have her
like watch it and get her thoughts on it.
Speaker 1: Actually, but but wait a second, you watched it this
time and then you didn't think, oh, Madison, let's watch
it together. You haven't seen it before.
Speaker 3: Well, it's just one of those films that just kind of,
like I said, it goes under the radar. I don't
think to like, oh I gotta watch the night before
or anything like that.
Speaker 1: That's not you watched this for the podcast, right, Yeah.
Why didn't you plan to like watch it with her
when you're gonna rewatch it?
Speaker 4: Oh, because she's working.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, just twenty she's working at the mill, Travis,
she's working hard days, long hours.
Speaker 4: You know, he comes off just he's actually now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, like usual when we have retro talked
to him like, oh, hey, like I know we're doing
john Wick next year. I spoiled one. Sorry, there you go.
You gotta scoop And I'm like, oh you watch those Yeah,
I haven't seen those moors. I'm like, great, I try
to coordinate them. But you know, Taya's just watching all
this ship.
Speaker 4: What do you go to work?
Speaker 3: I gotta pick my bas I got to pick my baths.
Otherwise I wouldn't have watched it in times.
Speaker 1: But she made to watch Guardians, but she didn't enjoy
You know, it's a weird spectrum going on.
Speaker 3: Guardians Holy Special, Oh, the Holliday Special. I was like Guardians,
what like Ry's the Christmas Guardians movie? Rise the Guardians? Watch?
Speaker 1: Beats you over for watching We're watching this ship again?
That one?
Speaker 3: That one just timed out really really well.
Speaker 4: My voice kind of liked it.
Speaker 1: There you have good timing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but no, this movie is just it does crack
me up.
Speaker 4: Well, there's probably a majority of my laps.
Speaker 3: For just with Seth Rogan a lot of the other
things that kind of go off and happened. I'm not
finding like super super humorous Michael Shannon though, that's the
exception because it's like innocent humor and he really does
hit the layl on the head with that. But just
Seth Rogan is like one hundred percent of the win
here for me in this movie. He's so fucking funny.
Speaker 1: Holy shit. Uh yeah, hundred dollars the fucking my well,
So that so none of the Anthey Mac, you're Joseph
Gordon loved stuff does it for you?
Speaker 3: I just I would Joseph Gordon Levitt. Levitt's character Errol, Uh,
where are we going with this?
Speaker 4: His character? I just feel like I'm not really laughing
at too much of.
Speaker 3: The humorous stuff that he's trying to instinue it. I
just kind of feel sorry for his character throw most
of the movies he's supposed to well I know, I know,
but yeah, but that's I feel like that's why, like
Seth Rogan is just given the spot like so much
with his humorous antics. I feel like it kind of
pulls the spotlight away from Mackie and Levett's characters.
Speaker 1: A little bit.
Speaker 3: Because Mackie's just like I feel like, Okay, he's doing
his own thing, but he's just kind of like rambunctious
and just you know, Instagram star kind of a thing.
Speaker 1: But yeah, as we're talking, I'm literally just laughing because
like I love this movie and they just think about
like moments out of this and yeah, I saw in
Peter's name, you like, there's just so many. That's why
I think you're Red will get into it. The specific
went on, but yeah, I saw some theorist of me
and Emily are big into these anything. I don't know
what their name is, because like back in the day,
like The rat Pack used to be, like any movies
that had like Ben Stiller, Vince Vaughan Own Wilson, Luke Wilson,
will Fair like it was like, okay, they there was
that error, right of Like from two thousand and three
to twenty ten's like they're always doing movies together, and
that was this where I feel like in two thousand
and what probably six, like when Knocked Up, Super Bad happened.
You have the string of all these people doing these
movies together. And it's funny because not too many of
those characters in that and this feels like one of
those last type of Rogan ones to do that. Like
obviously we'll get to with Franco, and I like all
this stuff I have to praise with Franco has nothing
to do with him. Obviously he's had some shit, bad
stuff happened in his life. That's more just the writing
of the character. So I'll say that for later. But
like there after this, like I feel like this was
kind of the ending of that era. And even like
Levitt like he was in that group because they did
fifty to fifty. So I love I love everything from
Knocked Up to this. This is the end in varying degrees.
I just love that.
Speaker 4: Sorry thinking of scenes of the movie.
Speaker 1: Sorry, Oh yeah, I love the group various degrees and whatnot,
And yeah, I'm a big Christmas guy. I love Christmas movies,
and yeah, this for me is like I saw it
in the theaters, Emily loved it, and it's a yearly watch.
I never not watch. I think I always put Home
on one and two is my top two, but this
is like my third fair Christmas movie and sometimes maybe
my favorite. Yeah, I just I love because I think
the dynamic that they hit really well. Obviously it's different
with Levitt and Seth Rogan because they knew each other
for years, They've done multiple movies. With Mackie, it was
interesting because he had never done that. I don't know
how maybe those interviews how they kind of got together.
They just thought he was good for the role, but
still him being newer, it just legitimately feels like they're friends.
And that's where it's like with that Super Bad Knocked
Up crew, It's like, yeah, it's like when we're gonna
make a movie or do stuff, it's like they all
were friends, you know, So it's not like them being friends.
It's like, okay, well that you kind of get that,
but like Mackie, you never did anything else. And so
the fact that they because I remember when I saw
it and I was like, hey, Leve, it makes sense.
Rogan makes sense with Mackie, he's not really in this
group of films that they've done before. And I guess
I was just going in thinking it was gonna be
kind of something off with it. But they just feel
like legitimately all best friends. They feel like a unit.
There's just back and forth that they're having, whether it's
the writing or they're active with another. It doesn't feel
like movie friendship. It feels like stuff you would say
to your friends and everything like that. And Yeah, I
just like I always have this like it came out
of time like twenty fifteen, like two years later I
had Gwen. It feels very similar to like a decade
like seven years ago of me Leam and Kyle's dynamic
of what we used to get up to and stuff
like that. I'd be minus drugs, minus the drugs.
Speaker 4: Emily gave him a package of drugs.
Speaker 1: But I just remember that movie coming out of that
time too, where it's like, yeah, everyone's doing their different things.
I think that's a great thing as a Christmas movie.
But also just like that story of friendship of like Okay,
it's also okay, things are gonna change, but it's also
like you don't have to, you know, Like my favorite
thing is to keep going to Joe screen like, oh,
it's your last Christmas, Like well, it's not his last Christmas.
Like multiple characters say it's your last Christmas and it's
so depressing. It's like, I think it's a good showing
of like, Okay, things are gonna change, but you can
evolve your life and friendships that still keep together. Like
Rogan's like, oh, be an adults hard and you don't
have time for anything, and that is true, Like there's
so much stuff, but I feel like that aspect of yeah,
sure there's fantasy and there's a bunch of weird stuff
in there, but I that I wasn't expecting either when
I saw the first time, I expected no, like fantasy,
like really weird stuff, and I like that. I think
that fits in like a Christmas type of movie because
other than this is the end, that's not really their shtick, right,
They're always very like realistic scenarios or like bigger scenarios
like obviously maybe Pineapple expresses and realistic. But you know what,
I mean, it happens in a real world. So I
liked that they lean the fantastic little element and yeah,
tech what everyone says here Michael Shannon is just because
I feel like I'd have to look but up into
this career. Up to this point of his career, I
feel like he done nothing but serious stuff. And I remember,
I think they kept it pretty hush hush what his
role was. So I just remember being in the theater
and Michael Shannon popping up and just like the lines
that make them say what he does. And now he's
done more comedy, but just like he's such a talented
do but he just delivers like a hundred percent, Like
you know, screw the givers, Facebook fans like the fact
that they never vote him in and never vote through
and stuff like that. He's a golden character and he's
just like one of those side characters I always think
and laugh about. So yeah, I loved it back then,
love it now. It's a great time, great yearly Christmas.
Watch so thing we want to get into or say
before we here for sad breaking overalls.
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just looking through Michael Shannon's him to
be I feel like this might be like the first
movie I ever saw him. I don't know if I
can see, like I guess maybe Man of Steel, but
I don't even know if I had, really I don't
know when i'd.
Speaker 4: Watched that Nimes out he was in there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that would have been like years after this.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I guess, sorry, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was like two years ago. Now, I bet
you probably saw him when he was like younger, when
he's like in some side like roll, like he's just
probably some bottom.
Speaker 2: I'm scrolling here and like, I don't know if I've
seen any of the he's like maybe maybe not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's a guy too, like it's like a
good story because like he's gone pretty popular, like or
when in his later years and whatnot. So yeah, and hey,
talking about Matt Steel. He's coming back is odd next
year for flash. So there you go. You got.
Speaker 2: I'm sure he is, yeah, just like everyone else who's
coming No he.
Speaker 1: No, he actually he's filmed.
Speaker 2: This is how many people have filmed in the Cairn Travis.
It's not happening.
Speaker 1: It's not happening. Be no, he is the he's legitimate.
Speaker 2: There was an article that like two people got cut
out of the Flash.
Speaker 1: Yeah, gall already.
Speaker 2: Nobody in the movie. Yeah right, yeah, I'll believe it
when I see it.
Speaker 1: There you go, we'll be seeing Are you even seeing flash?
Are you? You'll never believe it.
Speaker 4: I want a trailer, you know, Yeah, I see him
in there, I'll believe it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, there you goes. We're gonna take for Saturday. Then
we're gonna dive deep in this movie. So wat right
back and we're back. So I don't know where do
we wanna? Where do we want to start here? We
want to start a fairite moments, characters, anyone have a bidding?
Speaker 3: I got I got a favorite moment, okay, And that's
what I totally I totally forgot about.
Speaker 1: But it's just.
Speaker 3: Catches you off guard. When they get into the limo
of the Red Bull limo and Mackie is like, yeah,
she stole my weed in the driver, the driver is like,
she stole your weed.
Speaker 4: She stole your weed, like only squeezed the wheel, and
he's like getting all pissed off. And Jack, though I
completely forgot about that line. I one call me off guard.
Speaker 2: I always forget about this too, because I mean that's
Nathan Fielder. He's like you know, doing Nathan for You.
The rehearsal, he's like just one of my favorite dudes
in comedy, so that he for him to have this
like random little cameo roll and it's so minor of
a role that I always forget he's in it. So
whenever I rewatch it, it's just a nice surprise to
see me there, because you're right, he's hilarious.
Speaker 3: After that, he when he crashes the limo and he's like, oh,
I fucked up.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. He was like you Taylor and you dunk
the water and your.
Speaker 4: Jee Oh yeah, absolutely, Oh that was just funny.
Speaker 2: You guys should watch Nathan for You. He's the best little.
Speaker 1: I want to at some point, everyone has good things
about you. Never heard are you seriously?
Speaker 3: Or heard of it?
Speaker 1: I think every at least every six months, I hear
down the least.
Speaker 2: Every in one year out the other, but rehearsals his
new show check that out. That's this year, so it's
modern it's him with him.
Speaker 1: I a always like, I watched this year, but I
always forget about the Red Bull Drivers because he's just
like a right like because at first it starts like
he's kind of you feel like they're gonna do the
joke where someone's gonna call him out and tell him
to stop listening, because it just starts just like listening
and he's giving like little advice and stuff like that,
but no one really ever calls him out. And Yeah,
I love everything about like the fake Anthony Mackie sort
of character, Like I love every chance he gets. He's
on social media with the homeless people, and I just
love there's one cut when he's talking I think it
is when he'saked about the Homeless movie. He's saying about
oh chriss, about giving all this stuff and everything like that,
and then Seth Rogan's just over his shoulder with something
but like I got to the cock and he's like.
Speaker 3: Oh P.
Speaker 1: Like there's just like and I feel like what I
like about this movie is the jokes. There's moments of
levity but like it's light, but there are like the
comedic talking with the friends, but also just like i'd
say serious, but there are serious moments as far as
just like you know, character progressionff. It doesn't feel like
it's always a mile minute joke. That feels like if
there is jokes all around, there's like little things in
the background. But I feel like he can go a
stretch of five to ten minutes and the characters interacting,
talking about stuff, maybe even arguing and stuff like that.
So I think that's why I like it never feels overbearing.
The jokes, it's always perfectly placed with this film.
Speaker 4: It's layered really well with like the just the heartwarming
moments of Christmas, and like I feel like a lot
of that is kind of emphasized like once you get
into like the later half of the film, but like
that's just what makes this movie so special, is like
I could totally just take this for the late night
comedy nests and just the ridiculous humor, because that's that's
totally my type of comedy movies. But then it like
catches you by surprise when they have when he's with
mister Green on the roof and he just smokes that
like super weed or whatever, and it just takes them
back to like the moment when these like three misfits
just like come together and they like support their buddy
and you know they're just like being really good friends
and like just being like having that spirit of Christmas.
So it's just something that I think boosts this movie
so much more than like it could have been already
of just just one of those goofy humor type movies.
But yeah, it's very well just spliced in with the
humor and the serious stuff.
Speaker 2: It kind of happened too with with I guess Chris
is Anthony Mackie's character's name and his mom, and that's
kind of like this subplot thing where he, you know,
doesn't want to spend time with her. He's embarrassed or
he thinks he's just gonna get shown around and stuff
like that. And I love that they're going back to
play in sixty four. That's you know, very uh you know,
sticks true with me. But I think that becomes just
kind of a wholesome Christmas moment too, where at the
end of the movie she's there at dinner with them and.
Speaker 4: Like that relationships all patched up.
Speaker 2: But like, yeah, you're right, that's like that does not
need to be there at all, but it just it
just adds a little a little extra spice in there.
So I like there's a good amount of layers there.
Speaker 4: M M.
Speaker 1: Fuck that part. It's got crackheads and stuff like that.
I think that's why I like too, where it's not.
I think lots of movies do this where you have
the main character, and maybe it's because all them were
stars at this point. Even though Mackie like I feel
like Mackie, I liked him. We're a soldier, but this
was the first time I like, really really enjoyed him,
and I think that got me to enjoy Mackie in
MSUE and other stuff down the line. I guess it
was kind of this in Paining game, but because I
remember when a soldiers think he's flying. But I think
the pause of what they do is you have Joseph
Gore Levitt, he's the main character, but then like you
guys were talking about with the mom moment or even
like Tay, I mean sure earlier obviously with Seth Rogan
and the Jugs, but it's more about the kid. They
all have different plot lines going on, and I get
that's the point of the story of oh, well, they're
getting busy, but also just feel like they're semi fleshed
out or to the same degree. It's not just okay,
main characters whole plot and then you have your side
friends that have some stuff going on. But really it's
always about you know, Joseph Garden love but it's not
it's like it does feel like a three hand or
it does feel like it's like the lead in a sense,
but just just the right amount, you know, not too much.
So yeah, I really appreciate that.
Speaker 4: As let's see, look at the poster and it's just
he's right afore big star David right in the front. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize this to seeither until I was just
looking it up on IMDb. But I love fifty to
fifty as well, Like that's a movie I've revisited a
few times. I didn't realize that it's the same director
between those, which makes sense, you know, likes that pairing.
But I love that Joseph Gordon Lovett, seth Rogen combo there.
Great duo for sure.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, really underrated And I hope that that's what
I was saying. Am I hope in like ten fifteen
years we get another. This is the end type of
movie where you bring them back go together, most of them,
because I feel like now they've all gone off and
they're doing their set, Like when was the last time
any of these did these movies together? You know? And
I get that's the point, because you want to break
off and have these careers. But I hope there's some
sort of reunion of sorts.
Speaker 4: And endgame and open up the portals all the secret
characters come by.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I got the Rogan crew and stuff like that.
You know, everyone wants to be a thing. I hope
that well.
Speaker 2: I feel like we're even talking about this recently with
Joseph Gordon Levitt. I forget what podcast was on, but
just like, where's he been late that we haven't seen anything.
He's kind of behind the camera a lot these days,
and even once again going overund to be looking at
Seth Rogan. I feel like he's doing a lot of
producing and stuff too. So I don't even know, like
what the last movie he kind of starred in was,
and maybe he's been a bit here.
Speaker 4: I think this was like cam in Tong right, like
that show producer?
Speaker 1: Is he in that as well as uh yeah yeah yeah,
oh he was just ins Oh that's he was in
The Fableman's right. He played Seems Spielberg's uncle. It was
a really weird like it like worked, but it like
it didn't exactly work for me. Like I said, I
think Seth Rogan he has he's not kind of like
Jonah Hill. I think Seth Rogan kind of has a
bar of serious acting. I don't think he can ever
get too far past that. And I think this is
like a good amount of stuff. So yeah, Taylor, what
where do you want to go? What do you want
to talk about? You?
Speaker 3: I don't keep talking about Seth rogen here.
Speaker 1: You know, he's he has baby on the way. He
might not be exactly repaired for it. He's the rock, Yeah,
the rock. Yeah.
Speaker 3: His The stereotypes are what gets me because I'm a
man that I appreciate stereotypes, and I get like this morning,
I appreciate stereotypes. I think like they're really funny. You
mentioned that you mentioned this in our last recording. I
think it was after nine, that Murder Mystery with Will
Arnett and that had like Jason Bavian and the Christmas one,
and there was like there's a very big Canadian stereotype
that they did in there, and I fucking lost it.
And I just so when he's just doing all these
like stereotypical things, like I'm trying not to sound like rude.
Speaker 4: He's just tailor. I'm not I'm not touch to that.
Speaker 3: But they're just like he he's intentionally like the script
is playing off of like just these stereotypes in a
very humorous, lighthearted way. And Seth Broken's just absolutely the
slang it with these stereotypes, and it's just he just
kills me in this movie. And when he starts doing
the drugs, it's just up in the ante when he's
bleeding in people's martinis, or he's just you know, going
around doing fuck up ship tripping out and especially I
know like this is probably like the Ace and the holes.
Speaker 4: When he's in church and in my mask, baby's like,
fuck he had it on the baby's mouth. That's like
something that we forgot about some when had happened. It
just caught me off guard.
Speaker 1: I think my moment of that is when he sees
Jesus and she's like, who's what he's like and he
does like the hand of it. Like all the Judaism
and Jewish jokes like completely work for me here. Like
I think they were just like on point of not
like it's like what tumble they are playing into, but
it's not. I think it's all innocent or like what
people use the stereotypes humor. Like I like when he's like, oh, yeah,
they're gonna think I did it. She's like, yeah, you're
gonna fucking star David. And so I'm like, but like
Mike Groshandel, I love when they tie it back. I
think this is maybe the one other than Michael Shannon.
The point I laughed the most is when they're at
the Nutcracker Ball and he stabs the quarterback by accent
and you just had this one by Sanchez says that
he can't said I forgot the word.
Speaker 4: He yeah, it's like it's happening again. It's yeah. So
that all that stuff fucking got me laughing so hard.
I honestly, I think like the Rogan stuff. There's other
there's other parts. I was Billy laughing for sure, but
the Rogan stuff, I my god, they got me got
me going so hard. I think the first time even
for me, was when he's like the drugs are really
hitting them and like they're in like that first karaoke bar.
It's when they he like sees Sarah like switches the
phone and he's just like they're all talking to me.
He's just like, you guys, all right, the lights in
here just kind of like they're really intense and he's
just totally freaking out, and then he has to go
to the bathroom and he's just doing lines of lines
of coke and it's just going further and further down
this rabbit hole and he's again, this is where it's
just he's like climax on the freaking out of like
the baby thing and all of that stuff. My god,
it it that had me laughing, and it like it's
in such like a short amount of time that I
never had like a chance to recover anmalstead of pause
that I was laughing so hard.
Speaker 3: I forgot the other scene too, when he has to
go out and get the wheat from Michael Shannon's character
mister Green, and Green is like, okay, here's you know,
there's this wheet.
Speaker 1: It'll show you like the future.
Speaker 3: And they go into the future and Michael Shan's like,
I'm gonna go get a drink, maybe a dance, And
then Seth goes and sees his wife and.
Speaker 1: It's like, well, yeah, she's pretty good her daughter.
Speaker 3: And he's like, what the fuck turned Shad and he thumbs.
Speaker 1: Upthing, Oh my god, And I think that's like a it.
I think what they do is they take that trope
because I think you've seen that many times in a movie, right,
like the dad not ready to be a dad and
stuff like that, but they just turn it up to
one hundred and stuff like that. I'magine for most of
these Jugs stuff Rogan has actually tried, so they think
there's like a genuine like kind of feeling there. And
I also really like it because way back in they
Fineapple Express, they actually wrote him to be Saul, like
he was supposed to be in Franco's role but they
switched it. And I like that because I feel like
this is his kind of rendition of not exactly because Saul,
like he's very cool like lever Kill, but like he
has like some really great comedic moments, but like Rogan
had to be the straight guy in that movie, and
I feel like this was his chance too, because I
fel like he does that a lot where he's very comedic,
but he is always like knocked up. He's the guy
with the baby and he has to keep things straight,
you know, pine up, e stress, stuff like that. I
think that maybe closest is like probably Super Bad as well,
where he gets to be a bit characteristic even like
you know, like everything like this is the end. He's
always the straight guy. So I like that he starts
as like the straight guy, but then he just goes
on this ride, and I think it's good because not
only is he trying to bounce his friends. I love
there's many times where with both Mackie and Levitt, he's
like the peacekeeper. He's trying to get them not to
say certain things like I know this is the best time,
and has this conversation and then they start arguings like
I guess we're doing it. Like. I love that he
tries his best just to keep things up. And that's
where again, like they say he's a lower, he's a rock.
Like so it feels like not only with the wife
and this potential baby, also with his friends, he's trying
to keep it there. So the second he has these drugs,
now that's gone and he's just he's just out there.
And that's why you could almost argue why the group
kind of not breaks up for a little bit in
the middle but has those issues because if he wasn't,
maybe he could have kept them, you know, like playing
safe with one another. But obviously the drugs and losing
the phone was was not good because I got Steff
Rogan a whole another round and stuff like that and
talking to Jesus and you know, you.
Speaker 2: Know, Travis, you're talking about how like often these these movies,
this group of people like there's like a realism to
the stories too, and this one kind of goes out
of the way to not do that. But one of
the things I like is is is the drugs aspect
of anything, but like Super Bad, like the whole like
half the plot of that movie is like I'm just
trying to get alcohol, and that's kind of the lead,
how you're leading around. But I love that his wife
just gives them that like you know, little jewelry box
of just all these different drugs in it, and then
they like play the music and chimes there, and then
that just becomes like I don't know, they just yeah,
they do like kind of one trope with him being
high on whatever it is, and then they like there's
really no story reason, they just like jump to the
next one. He's like, Okay, this is fucking me up.
I need to do this other drug instead. And I
like that. It's just that's just so over the top
and silly and like doesn't really feel like he what
he would do in a realistic scenario, but they're just
ripping it and like, yeah, letting seth Rogen do the
like his best impression of what each of these drugs
would do to you.
Speaker 4: And he's just like doing a little cocktail where it's like, oh,
like I was feeling better on the shroom, so let's
just do more of it, Like like various periods of
the movie, like he's still freaking out, like more more
so than he could be, and then he just takes
like another tablet of something and like he's just he's
just taking these like throughout the movie. Oh my gosh,
he's just setting himself up to for failure there.
Speaker 1: But yeah, and that's why, Like when he gets a box,
he's like, yeah, fucking measurements are all over the place,
like oh yeah, you got weed, Yeah I got wet.
He just pulls out like the one little joints, Like
that's a fucking joint, man, What am I supposed to
do with the size? I don't know. These measurements all
messed up, but yeah, and that's most of his stuff.
Offuly gets mixed up with Mindy Kayley and there's some
fun and like That's the other thing too, like that
still gets me every time is when he's getting the
dick pics, like I it's all it's the it is,
it's a double it's a pure writing of Rogan or
the performance. But it's also the writing of just like, oh,
you're gonna suck at dictating. He's like, I guess you know,
I'm sucking a nick. I never thought this happened like
it's just like they did it in such an innocent way.
It's just it's so fun the way it happens anything
like for a while he thinks it's some guy from
work and stuff like that. And I love the classic
like this happens a bull train, and I love the
classic of like just the mix up of like, what
would you like a dick like this? Like of course
I would like look at it, like and he's just
feeding into the James character and stuff, which at the time,
it's like that was it was fun to know, Okay,
it's probably gonna be him, and that was a good payoff.
It sucks that it's like not as enjoyable now. But
when I just I separate art from the artists and
I love everything with like him Kling and Rogan of
just like him being the cockpucker just like all the time,
like's like, yeah, I got a bush and she's like dancing,
and I love them when she just breaks serious and
she's like, okay, dude, you need a fuck right off.
Like I love when she just goes straight mad at him,
and but I love like it's like a fun it's
a fun reason to get the phone back, and all
the comedic stuff just works for me in that moment
with the cell phone and Mindy Kayling and.
Speaker 4: All that yeah stuff, you know, like the dick pic
and like him reacting to the text. That was amazing,
But like for me, it just it peaked when he
actually meets James. He's like, oh you're James. He's just
going and he's not even like hiding like oh yeah, no, okay,
here's your phone whatever. It's just like I was on
talking to you and then they just had this like
really strange dynamic. It's fantastic. Oh my god, that not
like man, I was belly laughing that all that stuff
that was so good.
Speaker 1: Anything else on Oh God, what am I forgetting this
character's name?
Speaker 4: Isaac?
Speaker 1: Isaac? Anything else on Isaac? Any moment so.
Speaker 4: Just like the cocaine blood and the martini, that that
one was just the slow mo absolutely disgusting, tastes like copper.
And you know, she like just freaks out, like leaves
the bar and like her friend, you know, they've been
there for like five minutes, like they're all happy to
like see familiar people, and all of a sudden, it's like,
I gotta get the fuck out of here. I'm freaking
out right now.
Speaker 1: And like the last thing she says, she's like you
shouldn't be a father, and she just so like it's great,
and the builds upon like already his insecurities. And I
wasn't gonna say I like like the whole chase of
the phone because like you guys talk about, he has
the whole like fucking baby and calls the names I
loved in the theater like the first time, like they
just had the wife kind of laugh it off and
have fun with Like I like that moment between the
two and stuff like that, and the crescendos with like
you're a fucking dragon right now and all this.
Speaker 3: That that scene Kirk when you mentioned with uh her
leaving after the blood cocktail thing and she goes to
the bathroom and she's like trying to get in, and
that's when like the girl inside is with Anthony Mackie
and she's like, people are fucking in here, and that's
when that's when hence my neickday. That's what really got
me because like like he's obviously having a good sign.
They're going crazy, and then all of a sudden, like
it just stops. She just like to take a dump,
and his facial reaction was priceless.
Speaker 1: That's so good. What so I said, this is what
I started to get because if you look at him
as like Sam Falcon and the like Avengers movies, at point,
like he was just kind of there, like he was good,
but like there was not too much he got to
work with him those so to see him like fully
like fleshed out as like this arrogant guy, but he
has like a soft side and like I love all
the dialogue, Oh yeah, what about your friends? Like, oh friends,
you know, they're just today's news, but fans there forever
like he's such a piece of shit. But it feels
like at the end of the movie, like once he
sees eyes to get beats up and he gets of
the steroids, all with the friends, like he realized like
what's there, and like, it's that a journey that's not
been done before. Of course this has been done thousands
of times the movies, but it's just like, I like
the idea. Okay, they made him semi famous, and they
made it with this aeroids of which I don't know
if I've seen that in a movie where it's like, Okay,
that's the crux of the friendship is they kind of
know why he got better. So now I really like
Mackie in this movie, and like just the mini journey
we go alread talk about with the mom, but the
journey of him trying to be a better person at
the end, you know, not so self centered. M definitely, uh,
what's next? Who's next?
Speaker 2: I'll quickly shout out Tracy Morgan as the narrator. I
think is a very fun addition to this. And it
mean it's not like he's in it a whole lot,
just kind of bookends it. Yeah, very much in that
like classic Christmas movie way where you know they're just
kind of setting you up and then like letting the
story exists and then capping it off at the end.
So I feel like that fits kind of a nice
Christmas trope, But I don't know. I like that the
rhyming at the start is fun and all that, and
then it obviously connects with mister Green in the end,
which is a kind of a funny, funny connection.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I almost wish they did that, Like, even though
like I really have no consent, I wish they did
almost like the rhyming miscals up a little bit more
because I like that opening, and I do like that
they go on that they kind of lean on the
side of Santa's really like I like movies that kind
of do that because if they're already like introducing an
element where Michael Shannon's like getting Angel when it's flying off,
it's like, well that moment just commit and I like
when it is a little bit just like Grandios and
stuff like that. And the opening is great. Other than
just man that that wig they give Joseph Gorlaa trying
to look younger always just stands out to me. It's like, oh,
if I get what, I get what they're going for,
and it's it's not a big deal. There's only a
few minutes scene. But every time they show them like
as their younger versions it's just like this is there's.
Speaker 4: Nothing like it kind of works.
Speaker 2: I feel like they're trying to make them all look
really stupid, So yeah, that's true for me, it actually
kind of fits.
Speaker 4: I think that's what I was looking like before I
got my haircut, looking like Pattison.
Speaker 1: Oh, we'll take our second ad break and then we'll
be right back. And we're back. And I guess we
should have in case no one else had watched this
and they're just listening to this the first time. You
should have said up that they're a group of friends
and what the whole deal is that they've always wanted
to get to the Nutcracker Ball. They like, they're at
a bar, they meet this lady who does like the
rhyming about like so many drugs. I'm surprised and survived
all this stuff, and they've always wanted to go to
the Nutcracker Ball and this is the last year they're
gonna hang on his friends alone. Behold just scoring that
which again you talk about That's what I love about
all these like Rogan Goldberg movies when you look back,
like Randall Park is the waiter and like now it's like,
oh he's Jimmy wooing the MC, but she's like, you
see him pop up in a bunch of other shows
and movies and stuff now, But at that point, she's like,
he's just some guy, and I love everything about the
the l face and feeling more festive and stuff like that.
But yeah, he's going through ticker, he's going through Coats
gets the tickets. Imagine those people must have been pissed.
They thought they were going to Nutcracker Ball and now, well.
Speaker 3: It seems like it's pretty easy to go to the
Nutcracker Ball because I mean everyone was going to it
in this movie.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that was that was like I don't mind
it because like you need it, but like the fact
that you know, the football the quarterback was going there,
and then like I guess those girls were only going
there because James and whatnot, and mister Green is throwing
the party like it is a little coincidental, but.
Speaker 2: He does say it's getting bigger every year, so who knows.
Maybe it truly was just Max's capacity at that point.
Speaker 3: What did you guys think of that that scene when
just Gordon Levit's character like he's the two Santa Clauses
and he just gets pissed off with them because they're
like ruining the meaning of Christmas and the representation of Santa.
And he drops the one guy camera the actor's names.
He's a funny character, a funny actor. But he goes
in and like grabs the other guy. And because Santa's like,
you got a lot of built up rage, I think
it's directed at something else around.
Speaker 4: He's like, no, I have a lot of anger, and
it's all because of this.
Speaker 3: I'm paraphrasing him, of course, but it just cracked me up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, those two rob wiggle, I think is when you're
looking for And then the other guy that punches him
is Jason Sadeika, So I fucking love and he's like.
Speaker 3: Jason, take us. I didn't even recognize him.
Speaker 1: Then, oh yeah shit, yeah, I'm a teacher. I'm shaping
our youth. It's like I like the moment just because
it's a show. Pissed off he is, and I like
how he tries to do later on kind of deflect
of why it happened and stuff like that, like you
didn't need to pick the fight the SAMs. But then
with his friends, he's just like, yeah, they they mugged me.
It's like, oh, well, did they get the tickets or
your wall? Well, no, they didn't do like what they
beat you up. It's like it just kind of happened.
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 4: But yeah, j yeah, Jason Jones, what ye's gonna say?
Speaker 2: That cannot be correct?
Speaker 1: That's why I didn't recognize like that, No, not to ticket, Sorry,
no other.
Speaker 4: Way, Jason, That's what I say. I didn't recognize who's
either guy Jason Jones? What do you like the guy
that actually like headlocks him?
Speaker 1: I'm no Jason. I was thinking as well, Yeah I
was wrong that.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: I was thinking Jason Sidakis for Jacus man Sucus, Jason
Mann Sukus. He's like just like he's getting more popular now,
but he's in a bunch of comedy roles. But he's
in one of my favorite podcasts, How This Get Made.
It's just him and a couple other people are being
like terrible movies and they have a good time with it.
But yeah, no, I like this sentence like it's good
in the moment to what else are you gonna do?
Seth Rogan's running after the phone, Mackie is running after
the girl, which again that the girl whatever. I can't
remember the character's name is like the fan. That's like
another I think like fantastical element because I feel like
you can make an argument that she's not even real
in a sense, like she doesn't interact with Peel. She's
just there to like teach him a lesson, like at
one point where she has I can't remember what happens
he's on the ground. She's like, your friends want to
spend time with you on Christmas even you're out here,
like you're such a fucking loser. Like the whole she's
just there too, you know, like it is in a
very crash. She says like, oh, I'm like the greens
and stuff, But she's another kind of fantastical element. I
like that when she jumps off the building, and I
like the idea of it.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I like I liked I like the micromachine she.
Speaker 1: So I like the character and I like the idea
of her maybe being not real because it's like she
doesn't have to be, you know.
Speaker 2: It's true, like who would walk around with micro machines?
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a lot of micromachines too.
Speaker 2: If she had watched Home alone, truly, you like wearing
a necklace like a pearl night would probably be much
better because you can just wear that normally. Instide of
the pocket full micro machines does the same thing.
Speaker 1: Plus remember too, if if a pearl, because I was
watching on one too, if it breaks like that a
bunch of little pieces, it's fake. It's not a real pearl.
They break, they break singularly. They would never break like
that all and scattered and stuff like that. So there
you go, fun fat there. The more you know, the
more you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just quickly on those two santas and like, yeah,
it is a good spot. I guess to have some
screen time with JGL. But I feel like also it
is like a good like story point though, because it's
just like showing the viewers like his like pent up rage.
I guess that his friend like he's really feeling that
his friends are just betraying him in a sense, and
like you know that is sprinkled throughout, but like this
is kind of the breaking point where he's actually just
resorting to like punching people. He's like looking for fights
at this point. So I think that scene is actually
really good for what it is, and what a great
reaction from those those two drunks Santa Claus people. They
could have just beat the shit out of him, but
really it's just like I don't want to fight you, man,
And then the one guy's like I want to fight him.
He sucker punched me, but they just kind of leave
it at that. It's definitely coulda gone a lot worse.
So uh yeah, but I I don't know, I quite
like that scene for just having it gives like when
they all meet up again, like like for him sorry,
a reason for him to really pissed off his friends
because he actually got like physical damage. I guess he
could call it.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, what do you guys thinking about the dynamic
of the reason him and whatever her name broke up
with him forgetting everybody's names here but Diane, yeah he
wouldn't meet Yeah, yeah, what do you think about that
dynamic of the whole kind of back and like the oh,
are is she asking about me? No, she's not asked
about me. Later on we get that revealed, like, Okay,
she is asking about I'm Like, I think there's a
fun back and forth the whole movie, And I actually
think for the miniature times they're on screen, they got
good chemistry. So because they don't they have like only
I think like three scenes, but they mean the bar
Miley Cyrus scene, which I fucking love. Like there's another
joke of like stop calling me mind what I should
I call you Hannah, and it's just like like they
leave it hanging there for like five seconds, like I'm
just fucking with you. I'm so drunk and stuff like that.
But I like there's like literally the bar, the my Thing,
and then the parents, and that's like all you get
to those three, you know, or those two.
Speaker 4: Yes, Yeah, I feel like I really like that actress,
and I've only seen her in like a handful of things,
one being Cloverfield being Girls and I guess this but
now you see me too.
Speaker 3: She was in that right, Oh yeah.
Speaker 4: That's right. She replaced what's what's her face for the
first one, but uh yeah, but yeah, no, I I
don't know. I think she's great, and it's kind of
a shame that i'ven't seen her in more things because
I think every every time I have seen her, like,
she just has really good on screen chemistry with the
characters that she's interacting with. And this is definitely another
one because as you mentioned, there's only like three maybe
a little bit more of like on screen time with
her or like scenes like between her and jg L.
But it's one of those things too where like I
feel like it shouldn't really work for me, but it does.
And maybe it is just because that on screen chemistry
just does really work. It's you know, it's it's kind
of convenient that like the last few years, like she
just hasn't really moved on. It seems like she's she's
kind of doing fine, and this kind of loser that's
just you know, hasn't been able to commit for what
do they say, was it like a year or was
it a couple of months that that she hadn't seen him?
It might have already been a couple No, I think
it was much Okay, Okay, never mind, then maybe maybe
I'll take that back. Maybe that is a little bit
uh you know, I guess it's an appropriate time for
them to have this rapport or whatever, just I don't know,
strengthening their relationship or whatnot. But yeah, I liked it,
and I you know, for what the movie is, I
think it works well.
Speaker 1: And that's why, like you said, like when you had
the mom with Rogan and his wife, where uh, like that.
I like that shift. So she didn't get match, just accepted.
That's what I liked in the movie when they did
the proposal and she said yes, and you're expecting this
movie more. But then really when they pull aside, she's like,
I'm not gonna fucking marry you, like I just said
this because yeah, I don't embarrassing you. Mileys. They're like,
I love that, because like they could have just went
through it. But I feel like that happens in so
many movies. Oh yeah, good, they're and love, they're married,
they're gonna be happy. But and then later on they
retroactively like talk and then she goes and meets the parents.
So I really like that kind of switch roo of
things that she says yes but just kind of like
just to be nice, not to like fucking throw a
knife in this guy's hard in front of like thousands
of people, you know.
Speaker 2: So I'm looking up her IMDb because I'm curious. I
haven't seen her anything recently, but totally forgot she's a
disaster artists, Like, do you guys remember what she does
in that movie?
Speaker 4: I can?
Speaker 1: Is she not? Just when the interviews the disaster artist
at the beginning when I remember the interview a bunch
of the cast and they're like.
Speaker 2: So long I've watched it. I don't know. It's like
she was in the interview as well, so she's low
key kind of part of this cruise.
Speaker 4: Yea those movies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the interview, I remember she was like the person
that's set up. Nope, she was like the CIA person
and what up? But no, Kirkles I was saying the
same thing to Emily, like I wish I would see
her in more things, you know.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean I think she's maybe the one
character who doesn't really get to do anything particularly fun
and is so it's hard to like, yeah, point out
a scene or a line that is, I don't know,
funny in the way that every other character has one
of those moments. But I think, yeah, the the setup
of that story ties nicely into you know, like part
of the reason why he didn't want to move in
with her, didn't want to meet the parents because he
kind of want to hold onto this period of his
life with his friends, and it kind of all comes
together in the end. So yeah, I think it worked well.
But you're right, there'sn't really like a ton of scenes there.
But I think that's even almost more impressive at how
like the chemistry between them and how well it seems
to work for how little you're actually really shown. I mean,
they talk about it a lot, I guess, so you're
kind of implied a lot even when scenes when she's
not there. But I don't know, I think she's pretty
good in that role in storyline works well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels something like if you've watched a couple
for multiple seasons of a show and then are again
back together, but we haven't seen those multiple seasons and
stuff like that. They I think they have a good job,
like the friends always dropping lots of lines of familiar
so it's not like a we've seen that movies where
she's like that's its own plot line. The friends don't
really talk about but multiple times they're just like, you
screwed that up or you let her go, like, oh
you could have done this, and stuff like that. So
it'll as the viewer to it and informed stuff. Oh hey,
the two people I trust the most tell them this
is a bad decision, so we in tune should also
think that it's a bad decision because you know it's
something good for him, so.
Speaker 2: Okay, sorry, I'm going to IMDb surfing. Apparently she's in
Freaking Geeks too, which is like the origin of this
whole crew, and I totally forget, oh yeah, what she
was in Freaking Geeks.
Speaker 1: I yeah, I couldn't. I've watched it once long time ago.
I need to rewatch the thing, like as like an
older adult now that will retain and stuff like that.
I think it was just like, oh, they've done the
show and then I just binge it all in like
a weekend as like a young youth and stuff. So yeah, yeah, uh,
we' probably about mister Green. I don't know what there
is to talk about other than just like it's just
like us just just getting this guy praise and whatnot.
But it's it's yeah, it's one of my favorite Michael
Shannon Rolls. Every scene is perfect with him, and again
he's not into that much, but every car scene, I love,
the great Gasby Swore reveal, even the Angel I just
remember the theaters just being what the fuck is going
on right now? It's like I believe I've earned these
and he just looks like like okay, but every dialogue
of how I Love He'll just be very monotone and quiet,
and then just like I said at the beginning, just like,
give on a hundred dollars, get the fuck out of
my car, like you don't figures like and that's I
love the first time you watched it, you didn't know
whether to trust him or not. I love like when
you rewatch he's like, oh, I got a party, you
want to come and just back? He's like no, like
and he's like nice, is like, oh I got other
stuff going on, but he's it's so good. I like,
like I said, he has done more comedian things of
years go on. But I would love to see Michael
Shannon just more comedy because I like he does the
Crossbrown like knives out where it's like it's serious but
there's comedic moments he can do and stuff like that,
but more stuff of just like straight calling for Michael Shannon,
I will absolutely take.
Speaker 2: I feel like this character is like the exact equivalent
of Jesse Plemons and Game Night, and I just I
just love that's my favorite type of character in these movies,
who's yeah, not in it a whole lot, but just
so strange and you just want to know more.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like a terrible deal for Frudo's leg.
Yeah three, I know too.
Speaker 4: He's so.
Speaker 1: We gotta do retro for that, Yeah we do. Yeah,
just the way they're like semi insane way maybe try
to kill his wife or something. It's like, oh man,
that's why, Like what Michael Shanno, same thing. It's like
he's friendly, but then he's not. You just don't win
the first time you watch. It's like you don't know
what route it's gonna really go, Like I don't think anything.
We're gonna get killed by just mean like when he
does like snap and get a little serious, like Okay,
what's gonna be the pay off here?
Speaker 3: And doesn't.
Speaker 1: It's just kind of that sees a weird dude. You know,
Santa's son. Technically that's what they set him up in
the can right here, is that he's Santa's son.
Speaker 4: So yeah, Santa's son.
Speaker 3: When Mackie gets into the yeah, mister Green's vehicle and
he just keeps talking about like the weed of Christmas
present or the weeds of President or whatever present, and
he kept yeah, he keeps like going his like like
his little finger thinging from him like present President. Like
he just keeps saying Mack, He's like, what the fuck's
going on? But then when he's like, yeah, you know,
get some get some weed for you know, the Messiah,
and he's so serious, like there's only one Messiah, Lord's
Sire Jesus Christ. You're using that. It's very pretty blasphemous.
Like it's just he sells that so well, holy shit.
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter what he's saying. He has like the
same monot monetized voice, and I it's yeah, it goes,
It goes so like far for what he's delivering. And
I think just like his body language and the fact
that he does just remain like that same monotone. And
they do like a lot of interesting like camera cuts,
especially like this, like the first time that Anthony Macki's
like in the car keeps like zooming in at like
an like an angle like on Michael Shannon's face, and
then it'll like go back and then like do like
a different angle on him. Just all those little details.
It just it boosts like the the mystery effect of
what this is. And like when they enter the car,
you don't know what's gonna go on there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just remember we said so many times, Yeah,
look my finger, lut my finger.
Speaker 4: Her boxing on the cot.
Speaker 1: Just because the whole talk before that's really nice and
stuff like when he has them by the head, what
he's like looking into your soul. I'm like, that's it's great.
When you're watching the first time, you just think he's
fucking nuts, but when you rewatch it all, he might
actually be like having me like because he's like sometimes
I get high and I see the future and sometimes
these things come true and just like you're they completely
make him out to be a weirdo and then obviously
them when they would be like, yeah, it's his party,
you kind of okay, this doesn't make sense. But what
I like is because like I feel like there's tons
of obviously tributes, like we talk about the Girl where
she tributes Christmas movies, and I feel like there's sense
of soundtracks, moments and stuff like that. But I feel
like they use mister Green as like we joke about
so much in homeolone one and two when you get
like the Boots guy like this this the old guy
that's just doing the salt, and then you got the
Bird Lady and Home Alone two, where like I feel
like they took them kind of had a fun spino
where it's like, those are characters that when you meet them,
they're untrustworthy, right, but at the end it's always revealed
they're a good person and they like had a hidden meeting.
Now of this is like to a bigger degree with
being an angel and the great gaspy thing, but I
feel like they're kind of playing on that trope of
we want to introduce a mysterious, dangerous but at the
end of the day, they're going to be a friendly individual.
And I think I said, that's another thing I'd love
just know how did the Michael Shannon of it all
come about? Like how did that, like, how they approach him,
how they like we see the initial idea because it
just seems like a perfect casting and stuff like that,
And yeah, he's every time Holidays going around, I go, man,
I just think about mister Green and I can't wait
to watch those scenes. And they all always deliver. How
many times I see him, they just always deliver, you know.
Speaker 4: So Yeah, I feel like everything he says is just
so quotable throughout this movie. A couple of ones that
I remember to shout out though, was when like Mackie
gets in there. I mean Tayl already mentioned the uh
the Jesus Christ from blasphemous one. But when I think
it's yeah, Anthony Mackie is like just he's like basically
saying that he's he's buying drugs like with his friends
or whatever. He's like seeing you kids hanging out getting stoned.
So it's like, just makes me so damn proud and
like just this like weird father like dynamic that he
has with him. The other one, he's like, I just
see you guys as my babies. Do you ever see
me as a father figures? Just like you know, he's
weird to know, Yeah, he has no idea what to say.
He doesn't know if there's a right or wrong answer
here right. And then the last one was just when
he's like you and I both know Miley was flawless.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's good.
Speaker 3: That other there's that one more too, when cith Throe
gets in the car and he's just like I'm a cop.
Speaker 1: Show.
Speaker 4: He's already tripping out, so he's having such a bad trip.
Like the entire movie, Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1: Good stuff, anything else, anything else to shut out character moments.
Speaker 4: Scene, I like Seth Rogan's wife. I forget the actress's name,
but she's she's really good in this of just I
don't know, being like this mom uh mom to be,
I guess, and just like the dynamic between her and
Seth Rogan and him being like the rock for her,
it's just like, go have fun. And I mean Taylor
already brought up like the church scene, but when just
the chaos of that ensues. I like how she's never
really like freaking out for him, like doing these sort
of decisions or whatever. It's just like because he's doing
these decisions around like her family, it's like, you know,
like he just she wants to keep them separate. And yeah,
I just I really liked that actress in the role.
Speaker 1: That's the most mad she gets my family would hearing
like you gotta got like a funk off, Like I'm
serious right now, where do I go? Just get the funk?
Why are you coming back? He walks, He does like
a circle around like I was just talking to whatever
in his family and everything like that, which like I
know it's a thing, but like because of the Midnight mass,
Netflix showing this all power to you, But every time
I hear Midnight Mass, like, man, people go to midnight
mass like I could never. I cannot imagine staying up
midnight to do that. It's like every time I hear, my, wow,
that's a lot of commitment and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: But we'll stay for midnight for cod But.
Speaker 1: You know, exactly, there's my church.
Speaker 3: What what was it that she said? Like I'm trying
to remember how she put it. When he's gonna puke
and she.
Speaker 5: Says, yeah, farf bags and he's just ripping through all
the Bible just like just the people are just.
Speaker 1: The people around and then they show on the chair
so many times. But again the line that just gets me.
She's like, we did not do that, we did not
kill Jesus, And I get I guess also I was
gonna say. What I like is uh that they get
the ending. They're all happy and they jump in your
head and they show that they're all still together for
Christmas in a varying degree, but they got the multiple
families and it's a good ending and they sing the baby.
So I like that. I like the quick little You know,
movies are tropy nowadays for doing the how many years jump?
But I think this was a good, warranted one.
Speaker 2: So yeah, definitely nice epilogue kind.
Speaker 1: Of Yeah, Kirk, pats are final thoughts and uh, how
would you get this? Said Tim?
Speaker 4: If you want to rate it final thoughts. Yeah, I
had such a fun time watching this movie, and I
feel like, I I don't even know if I enjoy
it more the more I watch it, but it's definitely
like still at that same caliber. Maybe it helps that
I don't watch it like too often. So it's, like
I mentioned multiple times on like just talking with you guys,
there's a lot of humor and jokes that I just
completely forgot about. So it was really fresh and new
going through it. And I love the cast in here,
and yeah, it's it's surprisingly like very much a Christmas movie,
Like it totally hits that that bar. And yeah, I
I love it so much. I think I'll give it
maybe like a nine out of ten. Maybe the reason
it's not a perfect is just because I think while
watching it, there's certain moments when I think I wasn't
fully sold on, like why the characters would kind of
break off do their own thing, like it just it
just needed to happen to like because it was written
that way. I think it could have been executed a
little bit better, but still like it's it's really good.
So yeah, still nine out of ten could ebb and
flow up or down, but probably not down. It probably
only ebben up but for now and Dylan found thoughts.
Speaker 2: Not really that's a good one. I'll probably watch it
every year. I remember that exists.
Speaker 1: There you go to a field.
Speaker 3: I Yeah, talking about it with you guys definitely made
me retrospectively enjoy it more and I think, like, this
is something I feel like we could watch all together
and it would just be an absolute, like gall holy shit,
it'd be just a hoot.
Speaker 4: So I'd give it.
Speaker 3: I'd give it an eight out of ten because there's
so many things that just again the gap between having
seen this last and then watching it recently, it just
totally hit me hard, just the the innocent humor and
seth Rogan's just made your trip, you know, seeing his
wife like a dinosaur, seeing back he's mum with tentacle arms. Like,
there's just so much weird, like random shit that happens,
and it's so funny.
Speaker 1: So it's it's.
Speaker 3: Definitely a gem and I recommend it. I think a
lot of people will get a kick out of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I know much to say praise this movie. Bunch,
don't really have any cons. I'm dropping the big old
ten on it. It's to me, like, I just love
this movie. I get so much enjoyment out of it.
I'm always looking forward to watch it again. And yeah,
thank you Maddy very much for recommending, because I feel
like this is this came about after nine Before and
I saw you just recently locked in the letter box,
so I feel like after or I feel like the
Night Before has come up multiple times in the geek
for his history. It's like, oh, what a good movie,
or talk about that. But so it's fun to reminisce
and talk about it a little bit. So yeah, that's
that's it. I think this is the last. Yeah, it's
the last Wretcher for the year too, because January's coming
up and then after that we're gonna get into some
fun ones next year. And I proise you, we approase
you will not be boring and Merry Christmas.
Speaker 4: Christmas