Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Surely You Can't
Be Serious Podcast. We are here with part two of
our pre PGA Golf Championship matchup Caddy Shack versus Happy
Gilmore in full swing and we're going to pick up
right where we left off. Were joined again today by
our friend from the sport Fire podcast, mister Adam Weinrib.
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end of this episode where we determine which of these
two movies is the best. Okay, So back to Caddisheck.
When they decide to start making the movie, the studio
wants them to work in California. They say, that's a
little close for us. Let's go to Florida. Sunny Florida, right,
And so they went to a ton of different golf courses,
but they couldn't find the right feel.
Speaker 3: One of the things. It was just north of the
Fort Lauderdale Airport right which they scouted the location on
the weekends, and so not a lot of planes going
on during the shoot. They had constant airplanes going overhead,
and so they had John Murray, who's Bill Murray's brother,
who was actually the star of Moving Violations if you've
ever seen that movie, but he was in charge of
standing out in the middle of the fairway and saying,
all right, God's no planes. Then they could shoot and
keep going like that. But in nineteen seventy nine in Florida,
just north of Miami, is there a more centrally located
place to be if you're a cocaine.
Speaker 2: User, No, nineteen seventy nine. You can't ask for a
better spot to be if you're going to do cocious
amounts of cocaine, And so that is what they did.
I've heard that it was a part of the budget.
You know, we talked about with Aerosmith and our Aerosmith
episode that the recording part of the budget was the
cocaine money, and I've heard that that was the way
it was with this one as well. But the atmosphere
at all times around this movie was NonStop party. And
the only two guys who didn't take part in the
debauchery were Harold Ramis and Ted Knight. Yes, Rodney Dangerfield
was full on involved with all the young folks.
Speaker 4: Rodney days Alchilo, you get a free bowl of soup.
Speaker 3: When they met Rodney Dangerfield, they brought him in to
talk about, Hey, we think you can do this part
of al Shirvich. And he came into the office to
discuss this part. When he sat down, he end up
like three lines and wait, all right, let's talk about
the part like did coke on the desk of the producer.
Speaker 2: He's Rodney freaking danger Hair And it was nineteen seventy nine.
You know, yeah, this is a more open minded time,
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Speaker 3: So interestingly, I guess we can kind of talk about
this right now. But during production, the golf course was
very easy to work with. They were very accommodating. They
had a little like an apartment complex kind of off
the for the actors, and that's where the constant partying was.
Except for Ted Knight rented his own house a couple
of miles away because he didn't want to be part
of that Apple.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it turns out Ted Knight is probably as straight
laced as Judge Smails is like it is, and he
had a real antagonistic relationship with Rodney Dangerfield that came
across pretty clearly in their scenes together, like it was
a genuine dislike.
Speaker 3: I mean, he was under his skin.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So Rodney Dangerfields out there doing a bit, doing
it different every time. And Ted Knight is a script actor, right,
he's like, you know, we we say what's on the script.
We don't say other stuff. And so it was really
the slobs versus the snobs going on behind the scenes
as well.
Speaker 3: The man's a menace, Hey Whitey, where's your hat?
Speaker 2: You slice into the woods.
Speaker 5: I mean when you've got like you've gone from Mary
Tyler Moore to like a guy hoisting a boom box
out of his bag and on the course, then you've
gone from like comedy queen like you talk about straight
lace like ten Night, Mary Tyler Moore, Matt Man Heaven
and then Rodney Yeah, I mean Craggy to have the
confidence to I mean you were talking about how he's
never been in a movie before and yet he still
has the confidence in the pitch meeting to be like
doing lines of coke like I guess he's built different,
and you can tell throughout the entire film.
Speaker 3: He does an amazing job. I heard Harro Ramis talk
about how the kind of layout of Caddyshack is like
a Marx Brothers movie. I thought this was super interesting.
So he sees caddy Shak as a Marx Brothers movie.
You have Groucho Marx and Rodney Dangerfield, right, al Chervich,
Grouchier Marx. Then you have Chico Marx and Ty Webb
which is Chevy Chace's character, and then Harpo Marx is
Bill Murray cross Backler. For whatever reason, that just really
stuck with me. I thought that was really interesting.
Speaker 2: And Karl Marx is Sandy the groundskeep. No, I'm sorry,
that was a bad I apologize for want you to.
Speaker 3: Kill every golfer on the course.
Speaker 2: Correct you, I'm wrong. You know.
Speaker 3: One of the interesting things I think we need to
talk about is how this movie came together, and that's
that's really the big story here. I think the story
of Caddyshack was originally supposed to be the three way
love triangle between Danny, Maggie, and Denunzie.
Speaker 2: Where's Lacy Underall is coming in this?
Speaker 3: Lacey anderls is you know, she's around, but she's a
minor character, right. And as they started filming this, Harold
Ramis is like, hey, Chevy, you're funny, keep going, improv
do stuff. Hey Bill Murray, you're funny, do stuff, Rodney Dangerfield,
you're hilarious, keep going. And those parts grew, and so
something had to shrink, and they de emphasized that love
triangle to where I mean, it's just kind of this
whirlwind story. Yeah, Danny wins the tournament. He also gets
the scholarship. We don't get any resolution with Danny. I mean, yeah,
the original ending. I think they actually filmed this. Danny
was at the airport and he supposed to either get
on an airplane to go to college, or there was
a so like, as he's getting ready to get on
the airport to go to college, a pretty girl walks
by and gets on an airplane going to the Bahamas,
and he does the old U turn and gets on
the airplane to go into the Bahamas.
Speaker 2: Or in the words of John Paul Satre or Voago, fair.
Speaker 3: Fair, But instead we get the wrap up of Ronnie Dingefield. Hey, everybody,
we're all gonna get laid.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So they put this giant four hour movie together,
they take it back to the studio and they look
at it and go, this is nonsense. This doesn't make
any sense at all. You got to get rid of this.
You gotta get rid of that, You got get rid
of this, you get heard of that. And so all
of the parts that are getting cut are all of
those caddy parts, the young actor parts, because the old
comedians are doing such an incredible job. I mean, if
you think about the most memorable lines from this movie.
You've obviously got Bill Murray who didn't have any lines,
he just made up all of his stuff. And you've
got Rodney Dangerfield and you got Ted Knight. Those are
the three guys who have the most funny bits in
this whole movie. And so then they've cut out all
the non funny bits. They've got all these kind of vignettes,
you know, with Chevy and Billy and all of these guys,
and they're like, how do we string all this thing together?
And it's John Peters, the producer, who goes, hey, we
had that gopher. Maybe we can use the gopher as
kind of a through line to connect all of these stories.
And they're like, we shot three scenes with the gopher.
How are we gonna do that? So they're like, we're
gonna make another gopher, and we're gonna shoot more stuff.
And so who do they call to make them a gopher?
Speaker 3: John dyk Show, the guy does Star Wars, Right, Adam,
thought's on the gopher.
Speaker 5: I'm glad that you said that, because if you hadn't
given me the origins, I wanted to go in cold.
I was like, I don't know anything about the gopher
like or how it showed up or when it arrived.
I was gonna ask was that a script note, because
like knowing how comedians work, knowing how they operate it,
it just doesn't feel like it's in the same voice
of the lampoon guys to be like, we got a
big like we got a big old crazy like coming
off Animal House.
Speaker 4: Let's put an adorable little gopher that will.
Speaker 5: Later inspire the movie ice Age in this flick Like
it just it feels out of voice.
Speaker 4: It feels like it's a different thing entirely. So I
was gonna bet that it was.
Speaker 5: And I'm glad that you told me that I wanted
to fly blind and I was rewarded for it.
Speaker 2: Sweet, that's why we're here.
Speaker 3: Listen. Doug Kenny and Harold Ramis hated the gopher.
Speaker 2: Oh right, yeah. Doug Kenny was getting more and more
frustrated at how things were going. But when ultimately they
said we want the gopher to be a bigger part
of this, he quit. He just was like, you guys
have ruined my movie. And he had gotten really bad
into drinking and cocaine use at this time, and so
Chevy Chase says, hey, man, I got some friends in Hawaii.
Let me fly you out there. Give you time to
kind of get your mind straight, get off the drugs,
you know, because you know we're just flying drugs into
Hawaii and.
Speaker 3: Wrong Chevy Chase smuggled in cocaine in tennis balls. Yeah,
but yeah, asking a drug addict to take another drug
addict on vacation and to dry out not a good plan.
Speaker 2: So Chevy has to go back. Yep. Doug Kenny's girlfriend
comes out to be with him for a little while,
and then she has to leave. And then I think
it's Chevy supposed to be coming back to see him, right,
he calls Chevy talks to you on the phone. Supposed
to be coming back to see him. He's due out
in a couple of days. And then Doug Kenny disappears. Yeah,
and they can't find him, yeah for three days. Yeah.
Speaker 3: They find him at the base of a cliff where
he either a jumped, b slipped or see, as Harold
Ramis said, slipped looking for a place to jump. But tragically,
we lost Doug Kenny way too early. He did not
survive long enough to see Caddyshack appreciated as this cultural icon,
which is that's really the sad part.
Speaker 2: That's the tragedy, for sure, it is. But will lay
the seed? Now, this movie was not a success whenever
it first came out, and as we mentioned, there were
another couple of movies that had come out that when
Doug Kenny sawm he said, my movie will fail. It
will fail.
Speaker 3: Those movies are The Blues Brothers. Yeah, an Airplane, Right,
so let's talk about that for a minute. What do
you think about those those movies, Adam.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Airplane is another one of mine. If I'm in
a power rank those two. I don't know if I
ever connected with the Blues Brothers necessarily. I don't know
if they resonated with me so much. The Blues Brothers
was sort of a legend. Your parents tell you about
what made Saturday Night Live. They're like they were so funny,
and they were like, what was funny about him? And
they're like the guys just really wanted to sing.
Speaker 4: It's like.
Speaker 5: They sound talented, and so the movie always felt like
sort of a you know, a solid B B minus
for me. But Airplane was definitely one of my childhood favorites.
It was the alternative I watched to Kentucky Fried movie
and Kareem abdul Jabbar, you want to talk about a
sports crossover is? I mean, that's like a perfectly conceived
bit beginning to end that develops and grows as that
movie goes on. But yeah, that's a movie that's sort
of I mean, above all other movies. That one taught
me that you can cram everything you want to into
an hour and a half script and obviously the studio
will tell you what gets into the final cut. But
you really can be a writer who says I want
to write constant jokes.
Speaker 4: Can I do that? Yes?
Speaker 5: You can, right, So it set an expectation high. And
it's funny that you mentioned it in comparison to Caddyshack
and sort of sending Doug Kenny spiraling a little bit,
because there are more jokes permitted an airplane, for sure,
and sort of I would have expected a Lampoon writer
to write Airplane instead. It's much more of a just
satire hurricane than Caddyshack, which really is like, let's let
characters loose and much of the greatest stuff is unscripted.
Speaker 3: You know, the story that I heard Doug Kenny was
angry at how Caddyshack was going. What they thought was
their main threat that summer was the Blues Brothers, when
that course was Jumble a Sheet and Danak and John
Landis who had directed Animal House right, and so it
was kind of like this split from Animal House, like
half of the guys went to Caddyshack, half of them
went to Blues Brothers, and that was sort of what
they saw as their competition. He went to see a
movie before the release of Caddyshack, and when he saw Airplane,
He's like, man, we're sunk, We're toasts. He was the
only guy in the theater not dying, laughing.
Speaker 2: Okay, So we talked about Bill Murray improving all of
his lines. Harold Ramis would give him something, just an outline,
and he would go with it. And so at this time,
Harold Ramis was running a lot, like doing a lot
of long distance runs, and so whenever he was at
the end of a race or the end of a
run and he felt like he was out of gas,
he would do a little sports announcer to himself in
his head, like, here comes Harold Ramis down the stretch.
He's got to huff it out. For these last few yards,
you know. And so he tells Bill Murray, this is
the idea that I have for this bit. Is this
kind of inurit? Bill Murray's like, Santa More, I got it.
And that's where you get the Cinerella story. This crowd
is going to justly shot it, senor Ella story. Out
of nowhere.
Speaker 3: A former greene keeper now about to become the Mesthew's champion.
Speaker 2: It looks like I'm a wreck best bit in the movie.
Speaker 3: One take one take one take totally improved. Bill Murray
said right before they shot, He's like, all I need
is a weed whacker and four rosa mumps. Let's talk
about the baby Ruth.
Speaker 2: For a second.
Speaker 4: Why not we got gotten this far.
Speaker 2: So the caddies themselves lost out on a lot of
footage obviously, right, they've become a very small part of
the story. But one of the key components that the
Caddies are present in is the pool scene.
Speaker 3: Yes, it was the first scene of the shoot, I believe,
where Sidney Morgan had to walk in dazzle everybody. Yeah,
climbed to the top of the highboard and reportedly dive.
Although she's legally blind, she couldn't see anything, she didn't
ever contacts in, so she couldn't jump. She alsea can't swim.
All she had to do is run to the edge
in spring and then they cut to another diver who
looks nothing like her. But yeah, So the thing that
cracks me up that kind of slides by a lot
of people, the sign that it says Caddy day at
the pool one to one fifteen. You get fifteen minutes
in the pool.
Speaker 2: And then you have this ridiculous synchronized swimming bits that
doesn't make any sense at all.
Speaker 3: The water belly, why Harold Raimis is like, you know,
what'd be funny water ballet.
Speaker 2: The guys who were in the part are like, we're underwater.
We couldn't hear him. You'll cut. We're down there dying
for breath. We don't know what's going on.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they only had fifteen minutes and they used what
twelve of them to do this busby Berkeley thing, not
in a fishing use of time.
Speaker 3: But the real thing that I wanted to talk about.
Brian Doyle Murray says this actually happened while he was
in high school. Yeah, okay, so the scene is you
have a girl Caddy on the edge of the pool.
I can't remember her name, but she's like breaking out
a baby Ruth bar. But she goes to hand it
to her friend. Her friend takes it and throws it
in the pool. So you got the floating baby ruth
bar and they have the Jaws theme. It's falding no.
And then of course they drained the pool and I
want to scrub, sterilize and disaffected, and Bill Murray picks
it up and eats it. Right, that's the huge punch line.
But I was going to ask you, Adam, so I
was talking to you about this. Caddy Shack is a movie.
I think that's passed down generationally. So like my dad
found it super funny based on those Saturday Night Live guys.
As a kid, I'm seven years old, I'm watching it.
I think it's hilarious because you have somebody eating their.
Speaker 2: Boogers and you have a gopher, dancing gopher.
Speaker 3: And a dancing gopher. Right. But as I grew I
appreciated the comedy. You just kind of move up the ladder.
Speaker 4: Right thoughts on that, Yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 5: The first time I saw it was around whenever the
AFI release their list of the top one hundred comedies.
So I think I was twelve or thirteen, and I
sort of was like, all right, my goal, I'm gonna
run down this whole list. I'm gonna do them all
like and that list is weird, like there's some non
comedies there, like Harold and Maud is like a top
twenty ish or whatever.
Speaker 4: But I had no.
Speaker 5: Context, so I'm just like, all I'm gonna do them
all like as many as I can. My favorite movie
is at the time were Airplane Spaceballs, like Young Frankenstein,
which was on the list, but most of these are
not the kind of movies that the afis like.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, a top ten comedy you of all time?
Speaker 5: Right, So it was so highly ranked that I think
I was expecting more of that, and when it was like,
I don't know, I'm twelve, and I was like, it
was so it's so scenic, the plot is a little loose,
it relies on you, you know, falling for each of
these individual actors. And I was an SNL fan, but
like I said, late eighties, early nineties not so much
the oldest stuff. So I was slightly disappointed the first
time I saw it, only because I think I was
expecting zaniness, but like within the confines of satire, and
there was just nothing for me to grasp onto. It
just felt like it was very slapstick, and it's very
it's like, let Bill do his thing, let Chevy do
his thing, like and I think I wasn't necessarily ready
for it. The rewatch was really satisfying of this movie.
I think that's pretty clear. I mean, it's it's an
all time classic for a reason. But once you become
more acquainted with these actors, it's like, great an hour
and a half with these hilarious people.
Speaker 4: Like right, your expectations are different.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: I watched it one time. It was summer. I'm paling
around with some older kids in my neighborhood and like
my next door neighbor and then his sister and you know,
her friend. And I'm like the young kid. I'm probably
fourteen and they're sixteen, seventeen, eighteen. They're like, well, let's
watch a movie tonight. I'm like, great, have you guys
ever seen Caddyshacks. They're like no, I'm like, oh, it's
super funny, let's watch it. And when I showed it,
it bombed like nobody thought it was funny, so I
do kind of agree with you. It does take some
it's kind of an acquired ta why yeah you.
Speaker 5: Gotta Yeah, the worst feeling. That is the worst feeling
in the world. Though, recommending a movie just like older
kids and having.
Speaker 4: Them be like I did not like that at all. Yeah, yeah,
I mean, neither is a joke.
Speaker 5: You're like, you're waiting for them to laugh at your
favorite bits and they're just not doing it, and you're like, oh, okay, yeah,
we can do anything else.
Speaker 4: We can play checkers, like yeah, growing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was That was a rough night.
Speaker 2: Nothing I like it.
Speaker 3: I was talking to a friend of mine, Stale Selby,
who's one of our Patreon guys and super appreciate deal.
I texted with him and I said, hey, we're gonna
do caddy Shack and Happy Gilmore, And he just started
firing back quotes from Caddyshack, Right, fifty bucks, you slice
in the woods, kill all the golfers, right duty, all
this stuff. We're just back and forth and I'm texting
him and he's texting me. It became apparent that Happy Gilmore,
although funny, doesn't elicit that kind of response, so.
Speaker 2: I was going to save this for for final judgment time,
but I'll go ahead. I'll just go ahead and say
it now. Caddyshack is funny because of lines that are memorable. Yes,
Happy Gilmore is funny because lines that are funny. In
Happy Gilmore, you watch it for the first time, you're
going to be laughing. Yes, but you probably won't remember
as many of the lines, right, Caddyshack. You may not
like it your first time. It may be the fifth
time before you like kind of get it. But those
lines will stay with you forever.
Speaker 3: Yes, even the little whity to eat your fat.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if we quote a movie
more than we quote Caddyshack. In my household, if there's
a loud noise in the house something, you know, I've
got five kids. That happens pretty frequently. My wife will
go that must be the tea.
Speaker 3: Every time I walk into a restaurant, I like, I
want a hammerer, No, a cheeseburger. Even just the little
lines that Ted Knight delivers that aren't even really funny lines.
It's pauling, get your foot off the ball, and get
your foot off the boat, right, And then the stupid
poem that he gives.
Speaker 2: It's the delivery. It's the delivery. Ted Knight's delivery is incredible.
He's awesome. Okay, let's bump on over to Happy We
don't have the cocaine laden parties going on with Happy Girl,
or do we? Maybe? I don't know, I don't, we
don't know.
Speaker 4: You know, Corevino just dip it in there.
Speaker 2: Hey.
Speaker 3: By the way, Lee Trevino not proud of this movie.
Speaker 2: Now. He was mad when because he didn't realize how
profane it was. Sorry, Sorry, Lee, Lee's a big guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did find it interesting. They had Mark Lai,
who is the golf consultant who they brought in to
talk about the movie with, and they're like, you know,
I think it's gonna culminate with him whenning the Masters.
We're gonna make him win the Masters. He's like, what, No,
you can't desecrate the Masters, right, you can't do that,
you know.
Speaker 2: So just change the color of the coat. So that's
why gold Yeah, gold coat.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I love how in that that line in the
movie where he's like green jacket, gold jagget who gives it?
Speaker 2: You know? So there's that there's an interesting point I can't.
I'm trying to remember the line. But there's two real
pro golfers that he comes up and meets, gets introduced
by s by Shooter to these two golfers and he's like, hey,
I heard you hit that something like four hundred yard whatever,
drive like complimenting him, and Haby Gilmore has this kind
of surprise look on his face. And it occurred to
me on this last watching. It's the first time he's
ever been complimented for something that he did athletically. Right,
He's a terrible skater, He's not a good shot. He
has a terrible attitude on the hockey rink, which is
his whole purpose for being, and it ultimately ends up
that he's made fun of by the guys who are
coaching the team.
Speaker 3: Right, he gets in a fight with the coach.
Speaker 2: Yes, And so it's this one moment where all of
a sudden he's recognized for something athletically that he's done.
That You've got this magical moment where you go, oh,
he actually has moved at this moment. That's pretty good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 3: In real life, Adam Sandler is both terrible at hockey
and golf.
Speaker 2: I think he's been practicing golf lately.
Speaker 3: I saw that shot that he posts on Instagram.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's been playing and trying to get better.
Apparently his dad was really good and so he would
take them out golfing, he and his friends, and the
character of Happy Gilmour is actually based on one of
his friends. So, Kyle macdonnaugh was this kid who was
a hockey player that was friends with Adam Sandler growing up.
His dad takes him out to the golf course and
he wails the ball, like drives it all the way
down the course, and his dad's like that is amazing.
He's like just you know, love it all over him,
and Adam Sandler is just kind of like over here defeated,
like I'm your said dad. And so the idea of
a guy who plays hockey being strong enough to hit
a golf ball four hundred yards comes from a childhood
friend that he had. Now, as it turns out, there's
a real golfer, like a real guy who's a pro
golfer who was a hockey player who ended up winning,
like I think he won the long what do they
call the long distance shot? Like, is it the long
distance drive contest?
Speaker 3: Ye?
Speaker 2: Yeah. His name is Jamie Sidlowski and he is one
of the most prolific long drivers in the world. He's
able to hit the ball almost four hundred and fifty yards. Wow.
The PGA Championship will be going on at the time
that this episode comes out.
Speaker 4: Nice.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, hopefully the Little Blonde Caddie is back for
another running.
Speaker 3: I want to give a quick shout out to my
father in law, who I just attended his funeral this week.
Still the best golfer I've ever been around. The first
time I took his daughter on a date, first time
I met her parents, they took us to a driving
range and he was killing the ball, like bombing it,
and I was like, dang, that's the long ways and
he would like thump the club down and be like, dang,
I missed it. Really good golfer.
Speaker 2: Okay, So can we talk about the movie for a second.
Let's talk about it, okay. So the first thing that
I got to say is the Chinese lady Chinese Japanese,
I don't know what she was. The Asian lady who
overhears him as he's going through his come back to me.
Speaker 4: I want to.
Speaker 2: Hysterical.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, what breakfast.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought I thought that was brilliant.
Speaker 3: So that that scene is really funny because she happens
to be walking by as he's making a plea for
her to come back to his apartment. This random lady
walks by and hears it. She shows up at the door,
She's like, here I am, and it cuts to the
next like the next morning. That was funny enough for me,
and then she walks out of the bedroom, which was
like a double punchline for me.
Speaker 2: So and then I started writing down the funny bits
in this movie, and I realized that they were one
right after another so fast that I couldn't keep up
with it. So I'm just going to say the first
funny bits. Okay, you've got that, lady, then you've got
He comes to his grandmother's house, sees them taking out
the furniture, and so he runs and jumps this guy's
trying to move the couch and it slams the ground.
I thought that was hysterical. And then those guys become
a key. Like the hook in the in the script
is they're out there trying to shoot a golf ball
in his yard and he's like, you guys need to
get back to work. And that's where the bet of
you know, you could hit the ball further, I'd like
to see you try it, right, And then he hits
the ball, and of course it's hysterical because it first
hits the house, and then when the owner of the
house is out there yelling and hits him and he's like, hey,
he should have been standing out there. And then by
the time he hits it the third time, hits the
lady who's in the window, and she rolls off the
roof and I'm crying. I'm laughing super far, like, oh,
we better get inside. But that the that sets the
stage for the entire rest of the movie. Is that
really hysterical moment.
Speaker 3: Like you said, funny moments, not necessarily funny lines.
Speaker 5: There's a death in the intro and then happy first
golf seam. We've got two people. We don't know how
they are. There are a maximum of three depths, the
minimum of one in the.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she fell out of a two story window.
Speaker 3: She's probably fine. I was gonna mention that happy Gilmore
golf shot has been imitated at more driving ranges than
than anything.
Speaker 2: Have you heck I've.
Speaker 4: Tried, Yeah, I haven't tried it. I should.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I was gonna say, so, I'm not
a golfer, but I've tried it. You know, I've played golf,
but I am not a golfer. But I have definitely
tried that one. Adam, you got any golf in your blood.
Speaker 5: I got too much golf in my blood to not
be a good golfer. But I am not a great golfer.
My grandfather your my grandfather's best golfer i've ever seen,
hold in the one at the age of like eighty nine.
My dad yo, yeah, oh yeah, I stole his golf
caps growing up, like he's got the like Irish little
golf hats, but I did not did not imbue me
with the power of the putter. My my dad was
the accountant that helped design a course called the brig
so he learned to golf as a as an adult.
Speaker 4: Nice, I guess I could still do that.
Speaker 5: And then my soon to be father in law and
uh my brothers in law are big golfers, and every
time I go there, I'm like, I'm sit this one
out as well. I have not, so hopefully someday. I mean,
there's too much golf in my general area for me
to not be good. But I'm not good.
Speaker 2: I decided at some point I'm not playing golf anymore
because I don't want to look ridiculous. That's what I thought.
I just unless like, I'm so bad, I'm not going
to play anymore. I don't want to look ridiculous. And
finally we go play at this really nice course that's
called Top of the Rock that's up in Branson, Missouri
and next Brandso, Missouri. Yeah, and it's my guys from work,
and they're liked, we have an odd number of people
without you. You have to play where teams. I'm like, okay,
I don't have any clubs. They're like, we'll let you
use our clubs. I'm like, okay, I'm terrible. They're like,
it's okay, it's a scramble, all right. Fine, And I
go and I play, and I don't care, and I
shoot the best game of golf I've ever shot in
my life. There you go, So there you go. Just
go out with nothing to lose, and you'll and you'll
shoot a better game.
Speaker 4: That's right.
Speaker 3: I'm just hide in the bushes next time you play
and say jackass, dude, good slice of the woods. I'll
tell you who else was bad golfers. Everybody on the
cast of Caddy Show. Yeah, except kind of Michael O'Keeffe.
But here's the funny thing. So like Chevy Chase not
a great golfer, The guy who played d Nunzio terrible.
You can watch his swing and see he's terrible. Rodney
Danefield terrible. Michael O'Keefe, who plays Danny Newton, actually has
a pretty swing. You can tell he's played before. He's
a pretty good athlete. He didn't play golf for the
next twenty five years because every time he went to
the golf course, the entire place lined up and watched
him drive and putt and play and at him. Yeah,
he's like, I can't handle this pressure. Everybody wants to
see me play golf. Yeah, so he gave up the
game of twenty five years.
Speaker 2: So he's been in a lot of stuff, nothing anywhere
as big as Caddyshack was. But have you ever seen
Sneaky Pete. No, he plays the dirty cop in the
first season of Sneaky Pete and he's a great bad guy,
which is really because he's kind of a little goofy, yeah,
but athletic looking guy for Caddyshack. But he was a
great dirty cop and sneaky interesting.
Speaker 5: I liked him in Caddyshack more than I thought I would.
I feel like he's a legendary film like not good
enough actor. Like when people are coming up a conversation
of like which parts would we recast, he's like top
of the mountain, And so I watched with those goggles
and I was like, you know what, not bad, pretty good.
Speaker 2: I think he does a pretty good job in that
first scene that he is in with Chevy Chase, where
they're walking down the course. They're improving all of those
lines and he's a kid. Chevy Chase is at this
point a veteran improv actor, and he's holding his own
you do drugs, Danny every day? That isn't good on
the spot and they have to finish right as they
hit the camera exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: One thing end of production that we always talk about
is soundtrack, Right, is that where you're going?
Speaker 3: That's where I was going.
Speaker 2: Okay, then you go there. I think we can go
there now.
Speaker 3: When they got done with the movie, they're like, we
need a song, So who are we going to get
to do this. Harold Ramis is like, how about Pink Floyd.
Speaker 2: Pink Floyd, who had just turned down Flash Gordon, Right.
Speaker 3: And so they call Pink Floyd. They're no, not interested right.
Speaker 2: Now, Pink Floyd the Wall came out of nineteen eighty
as well, Right, they're a little busy. Yeah, so they
why would you make music for the things you're going
to compete against?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So John Peters was a hairdresser before he was a producer,
met and started dating Barbara streisand who had just done
a song with Kenny Loggins. Okay, so John Peters is like, well,
I'm kind of friends with Kenny Loggins. Let's call him
in here and see what he's.
Speaker 2: Got from Loggins and Messina.
Speaker 3: From Loggins and Messina. So they bring him in, they
show him the rough cut. He comes up, and he
just brings his guitar and plays I'm all right since
and thereby becomes the greatest eighties soundtrack singer of all time.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you if you just look at his
big ones, they're the biggest ones of the eighties. You've
got Caddie Shock, You've got Footloose, how you seed.
Speaker 4: Will so this time.
Speaker 2: Now gotta cut Louise, put up Sue. You've got top
freaking gun.
Speaker 3: You got two on footloose, you got two on top Gun.
Speaker 4: Now you sold.
Speaker 3: No, let's take it out.
Speaker 5: I'm salad.
Speaker 3: You've got meet me halfway from over the Top?
Speaker 2: Was that?
Speaker 4: Oh No? I was just giving over the top and.
Speaker 3: Over the Top the world's greatest harmlessly movie. You've got
you know, You've got Nobody's fool, which is the only
good thing from Caddy Shack too.
Speaker 2: It's times time.
Speaker 3: The lab, I know, I bring up Caddy Shack to
get all choked up. Kenny Loggins shaped the eighties soundtracks danger.
Speaker 2: Zone, Yeah and Loose and I'm all right, it's still
a fantastic song. It is.
Speaker 3: It's perfect, and you're setting the tone right, And so
the tone of the whole movie gets set in that
he's in his.
Speaker 2: Scene, right, him and the Gopher like it's his music,
the gopher going through the golf course and then popping
out and starting to do a little dance. And it's
that moment that you're free to accept any of the
weirdness that's about to happen in the rest of this movie. Yep,
which again I think is why it is an acquired taste. Yeah.
So now to the soundtrack of Happy Gilmore. Okay, obviously
we've got a lot of like classic rock.
Speaker 3: That's kind of Adam Sandler's deal.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so you got Tuesday's.
Speaker 3: Gone Got Endless Love by Diana Ross and Isla Ritchie
right on the ice rink.
Speaker 2: Right. But the guy who was the like the composer,
it's the guy from Devo. It's Mark Mothersbaw. Really yeah.
The guy who wrote Whip It whipp It good is
is the guy who is the composer for you.
Speaker 3: You are blowing my mind.
Speaker 2: Oh well, there you go. That's why I'm here.
Speaker 4: I flag that too. He's also responsible for rug Rats
that's right, wow.
Speaker 2: Right, which is a solid soundtrack. I mean they have
a solid soundtrack on that show. I've got kids that
are old enough that they would have watched that show
back then and I can remember it.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 3: Since we're talking about soundtrack and sort of sounds, the
gopher noises are stock sounds from the TV show Flipper.
Speaker 2: Dolphins Sounds Dolphins, Yeah, them and the Raptors and Corny Dolphins,
Corney Dolphins.
Speaker 3: Back to our Jurassic Park episode, the sounds that Chevy
Chase makes while he's putting the no no no, no
no no.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: That is from The Six Million Dollar Man.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, because he just told me. He's like,
you need a sound effect. Now, Chevy came up with that.
But what Yeah, you're totally right now that you say,
that's clearly what he's doing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Harold Ramis just said, hey, we need some sort
of spiritual sound when you make these putts. He pulled
that from The Six Million Dollar Man, which I had
no idea, but when I when I saw that, I'm like, oh, yeah,
makes sense.
Speaker 2: Sure.
Speaker 3: Did you know that Scott Columbia, the guy who played
d Nunzio and Cindy Morgan played Laci Drol dated for
two years after this movie.
Speaker 2: Do you know who he was dating during this movie?
No became the wife of one of the greatest guitar
players of all.
Speaker 3: Time, Valary Burnelli.
Speaker 2: Yes, so, Dnunzio and Valerie Burtnelli were dating at the
time that she comes to visit him. You know, she's
doing one day at a time, I think at this time,
and she comes down to visit him. They're like, let's
let's sneak out and go to a club, and so
it's him her, the really tall goofy like you don't
see him much, just because you don't see the caddies much.
With the tall goofy guy, right, and some other girl
all go out and the only place they can really
find is this country in Western Bar And this six
foot eight guy decides, you know what, I'm going to
change the radio and so he switches it over to
some sort of disco station. Like the whole place is like,
what just happened? He's like, oh, I just thought we
could do some and they realized they had to get out, right,
they had to leave.
Speaker 3: That's cool, Okay. One thing I really have to talk
about before we wrap up the final scene for Caddyshack.
They're going to blow up the golf course, right, And
when I say blow up the golf course, they're really
going to blow up the golf course. They made a
faux green between two fairways. They built it up on
a huge pile of explosives. Ciddy Morgan says she remembers
the day they were pumping in gasoline. So they're like,
we don't really have permission to do this, right. They
had not really discussed this small detail with the members
of the golf course. So John Peters is like, I'm
gonna take care of this. So he takes all the
big wigs out to dinner, and while they're out to dinner,
a news story comes on the TV and they show
these massive fireball explosions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one of the pilots called it in as a
plane crash.
Speaker 3: They was close to the airports. They got a plane
had crashed, and so they stole away all the guys
that would give them trouble, blew the crap out of
the golf course, and you have that fantasm as finale
where Noonan sinks the Birdie putt to win.
Speaker 5: Right, I understand why they cleared the big wigs out.
They did a crime at the crime.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so they had to bring in a composer. Obviously,
Kenny Loggins is good stuff, but he's not going to
fill up a whole movie. So they brought in Johnny Mandel,
who is a well known composer. He did the theme
from mash he did The Sandpiper, and he did Glengarry
Glenn Ross. He had done a lot of really great movies,
but he was excited at most about that scene. That
you're talking about with the explosions, because he was able
to pull the old overture of eighteen twelve Taichowski thing
no no, no, no no no, dun dump Yeah, And
so there you go.
Speaker 4: Johnny Mendel Loggins didn't do the classical meeting. Learned some
new every day.
Speaker 3: Okay, little tidbit. The scene when the golf ball hits
Judge smells and the balls actually happened to Harold Ramis.
He said he played golf like three times in his
whole life.
Speaker 2: Happened to him.
Speaker 3: The second time he played golf, well, hite.
Speaker 2: Him in the nuts, and the third time and then
he was done.
Speaker 3: I'm done. One of the things I thought was funny
is the horn that Al Shrovik's car makes. That sound
play right here right, that's we're in the money. I
never really caught that until I started looking to Yeah.
And the only reason I know this is because I
watched Lady.
Speaker 1: Tunes as a kid.
Speaker 2: Who didn't We're in the money.
Speaker 3: All right, Let's get to post production. D you where
you go?
Speaker 2: So Caddy Shack did poorly. Turns out that Doug Kenny
was right. Everybody loved airplane and everybody was either lukewarm
critic wise or hated Caddyshack, and it was only because
of VHS that the true worth of caddy Shack can
be realized. On the other hand, Happy Gilmour was instantaneous success.
It ranked number two, like I said, at the box
office on his debut weekend. It made on his debut
weekend eight point five million dollars and ultimately made back
its budget pretty quickly of twelve million, and got a
total of forty one point two million worldwide. So you know,
nearly quadrupling your budget is a pretty good response. And
it was also a critical success. When Caddyshack happened, and
it was this kind of weird stringing of vignettes together
by this weird gofer thing. I don't think that moviegoers
were ready for it. Yet by the time we get
to Adam Sandler, it's still the same thing. I mean,
it's you've got a storyline. It's a better storyline that
you have going I mean, a more coherent storyline that
you have going through it. But it is now playing
for people who've grown up with Caddyshack and therefore sells better.
They're ready for it because of Caddyshack.
Speaker 3: I think yeah, I think so too.
Speaker 4: Adam thoughts, Yeah, it's a classic sports movie thing, right,
They don't take that much thought for these mad cap
sports comedies.
Speaker 5: Somebody's got to win something. Somebody needs the prize from
what they're winning in order to either fulfill a family
obligation or you know, get something of note for them,
like patch, a relationship back together, et cetera. So it
is following the same pathway when you break it down,
equally lose. Gilmore has more room. The antagonist protagonist relationship
is a little more towards the forefront because in Caddyshack
you've got Smells and Rodnie Dangerfield and also Danny and
also Ty Webb. Like there's a lot of people floating around.
It's sort of it's easier in Gilmour to have the
mono amano. But at the heart of both it is
the same. It's underdog needs to acquire something via sport.
The difference is the familiarity Noonan knows all about golf.
Gilmour is learning, and then there are more ancillary pieces
in Caddy Show.
Speaker 3: Okay, real quick thoughts on the antagonists. Our buddy Jeff
Mazuka of the thirty something movie podcast, who's a good
friend of ours? He kind of punted a question to me.
He's like, who is the better bad guy? Is it
Judge Smells?
Speaker 6: The most important decision you can make right now is
what do you standing for?
Speaker 2: Then?
Speaker 1: Goodness?
Speaker 2: Well badness? Or is it?
Speaker 3: Shooter McGavin, You're gonna beat me the gulf?
Speaker 1: Oh you're on, You're in big trouble.
Speaker 2: Though Pally Pieces are like you for Breakfast. I think
they are both the features that make this movie. Not
that the movie is empty without them, but it lacks
a lot if they're not in it. I think that
Ted Knight's performance, his delivery of lines that are only
kind of funny making them really funny, and his what
is probably genuine reaction to some of the craziness that's
going on around him in real life coming through in
the screen is the foundation of Caddyshack, and Wyatt is
so good. Whereas with Christopher McDonald, he's created a character
that is so iconic he has adopted it as himself
for the rest of his life. I mean, the character
of Shooter McGavin, despite how despicable he is, is someone
who again makes this movie the movie isn't the same
without Shooter McGavin. And I think that the bad guys,
if you want to call him that, in here are
key And I think it's kind of interesting because with
both of them as big a jerks as they are,
you can kind of see where that type of person
would be coming from. Like you can kind of see
how Judge Males doesn't want this pristine thing that he
loves desecrated, which is why his very first scene is
about what's going to happen to this golf course when
the gophers come in? Right, he doesn't want it messed up.
And Rodney Dangerfield is like the human gopher that's coming
in and ruining what he loves. And it's the same
thing with Shooter McGavin. Right here is is this hockey guy,
this gutter guy, coming in and messing up the pristine
sport of professional golf. Like there's a reason they call
it a golf clap, Right, it's this tiny little tap
and everybody's quiet. You know, there's not cheering, there's not
beach balls. What's wrong with you people? This is golf.
Speaker 3: Go back to your shanty.
Speaker 2: And so again you can see, even as bad as
they are, you can kind of see, yeah, I could.
You know if somebody came in, like if you went
to my favorite restaurant and you started like having a
food fight, I'd be upset. Right, That's basically what's happening
with both of these guys, and they're just trying to
protect what they love.
Speaker 3: You can totally see it when when he's like, you're
never going to be a member at Bushwood and he's
like member, Well, this whole place sucks, and the judge
is like, you can't even say. I mean, he's like
blown away. This is what he totally loves this course,
and you know writing Najer is so irreverent. He's gonna
buy the place.
Speaker 2: How'd you like to make fourteen dollars a hard way?
Speaker 3: Oh you must have been something before electricity? Adam, Where
are you bad guy? What's your bad guy on this one?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I think you nailed it down to the essence. But
I would say that I think Judge Smail's complaint is
more justifiable. Like Rodney Dangerfield is annoying, he is a
nat and he doesn't really belong there. Happy Gilmour is
somebody who ostensibly is bringing more viewership to the tour
and eventually becomes a champion in many respects. So like
that rivalry is more rooted in just like I don't
want to lose. I'm angry and it's sort of like
a baby contest. He's like throwing a fit. I understand
more why Judge Smails is angry at Rodney Dangerfield's intrusion
and presence, Like this is relaxation time. It's not a profession.
It's somebody interrupting a place that you love, where you're
trying to spend your downtime. So in terms of the
only way I would be able to compare them is
by saying that Shooter McGavin's motivation is slightly less justified,
just because it kind of paints him as a sore
loser and a bad competitor.
Speaker 3: You know when when Shooter McGavin invades Happy's happy place,
it's so disruptive when he's jumping in, he's gonna make
out with his girl, and you know he's gonna make
out with his grandma, all this stuff. Shooter McGavin, I think,
is a is a better, more hate able bad guy.
Judge Smails is just kind of a stuffy guy. And
the part that cracks me up. You know, Judge Smails
is so everything in his life has been up to
this standard. And then the day that that gopher comes in,
because Al Shirvik is building condos across the way, it's
like the worst day of his life. It's like, do
you know what gophers could do to a golf course?
And then right it proceeds to be like the worst
three weeks of his life.
Speaker 2: Destroys his balls, because destroys his boat and destroys his
golf course in a much bigger way than the gopher
ever could have.
Speaker 3: So there you go, Jeff, that's our take. Yeah, all right,
we're gonna put a.
Speaker 6: Bow on this.
Speaker 2: A time for final judgment.
Speaker 3: Let's go final judgment.
Speaker 2: Okay, who's gonna go first? I want you go first?
All right, yeah, decision time.
Speaker 4: Okay, thank you. The floor is mine. If you're like
a lot of pressure, A lot of pressure here.
Speaker 5: I grew up as I, as I continue to say,
sort of with this joke box mentality and with this
era of Saturday Night Live. So I will say that
in terms of laugh out loud funniness for me and comfort,
I side with happy Gilmore. I think it's funnier beginning
to end, and I think it's funnier on a first watch.
That is not to say that I do not have
appreciation for what Caddyshack is. And you guys have demonstrated
over and over again how quotable it is. We could
do another hour, like, we could get to the whole
length of the movie.
Speaker 4: I think. I let you guys go, I think.
Speaker 5: But it is an acquired taste, I guess is right.
But it's sort of like Caddyshack is the predecessor and
the comfort food, and then Happy Gilmore sort of is
the evolutionary version for me, So I'm gonna I'm gonna
go with Happy all.
Speaker 3: Right, Okay for me, this is the biggest mismatch that
we have done so far in all of our episodes. Wow,
it is Caddyshack by a hurricane.
Speaker 2: There was actually a hurricane.
Speaker 3: I know it disrupted the filming.
Speaker 2: Nice thank you.
Speaker 3: When you have Rodney Dangerfield, Ted Night, Chevy, Chase, Bill
Murray at their peak comedy, just the enseng on how
it works. It is acquired taste, and it isn't as
slapstick and silly funny, and you don't maybe laugh as much,
but For me, it's a much more fun ride. It
is comfort food. I could watch this improv groundskeeper about
to win the Master's scene over and over. The Gopher
has been comfort food for me since I was seven
years old. Everything about Caddyshack for me, it is a landslide. Now,
Happy Gilmore is funny. I did enjoy it. Adam Sandler
cracks me up, But it's Caddyshack landslide.
Speaker 6: Really, the most quotable movie of all time, the most
uneven odds of all of the movies that we've done, yes,
including Brave Heart and Glad He Yes, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: Yes. Okay, so it's up to me. I'm the tie
breaker here.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 5: I'm glad I showed up for this one in on
the wrong side of history, voting for Walter Mondale over here.
Speaker 2: Okay, so I cannot. I'm still kind of baffled that
you would say it was a gigantic plan slide. I mean,
I can understand you picking Caddyshack, but to say that
it's a landslide is kind of unbelievable to me. Okay,
So I have very similar ideas on both of these. Yes,
Caddyshack is comfort food. Yes, Caddyshack is more quotable. And
here's an interesting thing. We'll probably stand the test of
time as yours go on longer than Happy Gilmour.
Speaker 1: It will.
Speaker 2: But right now, I'm if I'm walking out the door
and I'm grabbing a DVD or a Blu ray, or
I'm finding something on a streaming network that I'm going
to sit down and watch, it's going to be Happy Gilmore.
Without question. It's going to be Happy Gilmore because it's
a more coherent storyline. As we go through, you have
more stakes involved with all of the things that are
going on, and it's funnier. It is a funnier movie,
more laugh out loud moments, and more even intellectual humor
throughout the movie than Caddyshak is. Now, if I'm going
to have a movie that's I'm gonna have on while
I'm working in the house and I don't have to
watch the screen, I'd pick Caddyshack over Happy Gilmour because
of all of those lines that I have to attribute
to nostalgia, like they've become iconic because of what we've
made them. What they were when we were kids, when
we were seven watching with our dad or our brother whoever.
They have those lines that stick with us. But to
sit down and watch with a critical eye, which is
what I did with both of these movies before we
had this podcast. I got to say, Caddyshack really isn't
as good as it has become for a first time
watch or for watching with your kids or something like that.
So I got to say, happy Bill Moore wentz today. Wow.
Speaker 3: Wow, Well, we want to hear from you guys. Everybody
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Speaker 2: And by the way, let me just say this, I
didn't get to say this. One of the greatest decisions
of Caddyshack was to cut as much of that Irish
accent girl as they possibly could. I could not figure
out why she was in the movie at all. I
just thought, did she have to You can take her
out and you have a much better movie without her.
And she had dirty feet when they're in bed together
and she's laying down it's supposed to be the sexy scene,
and her feet are dirty. And then she's dancing on
the course in a nightgown in the middle of the
night because she's not pregnant. This is the weirdest part
of all of that. They were definitely on their cocaine
high they decided to leave any of her bits in.
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Speaker 5: Thanks for having me, guys, Happy to do it, Happy
to be the deciding vote, I guess ultimately that was scary.
For a while, I thought I could get lambasted and
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining us, Adam. We really
appreciate you being here.
Speaker 4: Man, Total pleasure. This was a great battle.
Speaker 3: Okay, hey everybody, we're all gonna get late.