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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Surely You Can't

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Be Serious Podcast. We are here with part two of

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our pre PGA Golf Championship matchup Caddy Shack versus Happy

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Gilmore in full swing and we're going to pick up

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right where we left off. Were joined again today by

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our friend from the sport Fire podcast, mister Adam Weinrib.

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Also starting next week is our Summer of.

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Speaker 2: Nineteen eighty four series, starting off with Huey Lewis and

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the News Sports versus Bruce Springsteen born in the USA.

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Be sure to hit that subscribe button on your podcast

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app right now so that you are sure not to

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miss it, and be sure and stay around for the

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end of this episode where we determine which of these

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two movies is the best. Okay, So back to Caddisheck.

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When they decide to start making the movie, the studio

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wants them to work in California. They say, that's a

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little close for us. Let's go to Florida. Sunny Florida, right,

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And so they went to a ton of different golf courses,

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but they couldn't find the right feel.

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Speaker 3: One of the things. It was just north of the

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Fort Lauderdale Airport right which they scouted the location on

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the weekends, and so not a lot of planes going

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on during the shoot. They had constant airplanes going overhead,

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and so they had John Murray, who's Bill Murray's brother,

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who was actually the star of Moving Violations if you've

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ever seen that movie, but he was in charge of

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standing out in the middle of the fairway and saying,

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all right, God's no planes. Then they could shoot and

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keep going like that. But in nineteen seventy nine in Florida,

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just north of Miami, is there a more centrally located

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place to be if you're a cocaine.

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Speaker 2: User, No, nineteen seventy nine. You can't ask for a

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better spot to be if you're going to do cocious

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amounts of cocaine, And so that is what they did.

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I've heard that it was a part of the budget.

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You know, we talked about with Aerosmith and our Aerosmith

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episode that the recording part of the budget was the

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cocaine money, and I've heard that that was the way

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it was with this one as well. But the atmosphere

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at all times around this movie was NonStop party. And

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the only two guys who didn't take part in the

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debauchery were Harold Ramis and Ted Knight. Yes, Rodney Dangerfield

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was full on involved with all the young folks.

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Speaker 4: Rodney days Alchilo, you get a free bowl of soup.

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Speaker 3: When they met Rodney Dangerfield, they brought him in to

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talk about, Hey, we think you can do this part

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of al Shirvich. And he came into the office to

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discuss this part. When he sat down, he end up

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like three lines and wait, all right, let's talk about

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the part like did coke on the desk of the producer.

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Speaker 2: He's Rodney freaking danger Hair And it was nineteen seventy nine.

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You know, yeah, this is a more open minded time,

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I guess. Before we get going, I just want to

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point something out. We have been talking to each other

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now for a couple of years, face to face. And

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one of the reasons that I can do that is

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because you don't have nose hair. Have you been talking

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to people and like you can't even concentrate on what

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they're saying because of their nose hair.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, they like tuck to you.

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Speaker 2: It dangles, yes, it wiggles. It's it's a total distraction. Absolutely,

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Speaker 2: It takes care of it. You're not gonna look at

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people and bother them, right, And I'm one of those

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guys who's self conscious about my nose hair. So somebody

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Speaker 3: So interestingly, I guess we can kind of talk about

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this right now. But during production, the golf course was

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very easy to work with. They were very accommodating. They

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had a little like an apartment complex kind of off

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the for the actors, and that's where the constant partying was.

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Except for Ted Knight rented his own house a couple

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of miles away because he didn't want to be part

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of that Apple.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it turns out Ted Knight is probably as straight

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laced as Judge Smails is like it is, and he

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had a real antagonistic relationship with Rodney Dangerfield that came

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across pretty clearly in their scenes together, like it was

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a genuine dislike.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he was under his skin.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So Rodney Dangerfields out there doing a bit, doing

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it different every time. And Ted Knight is a script actor, right,

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he's like, you know, we we say what's on the script.

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We don't say other stuff. And so it was really

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the slobs versus the snobs going on behind the scenes

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as well.

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Speaker 3: The man's a menace, Hey Whitey, where's your hat?

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Speaker 2: You slice into the woods.

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Speaker 5: I mean when you've got like you've gone from Mary

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Tyler Moore to like a guy hoisting a boom box

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out of his bag and on the course, then you've

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gone from like comedy queen like you talk about straight

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lace like ten Night, Mary Tyler Moore, Matt Man Heaven

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and then Rodney Yeah, I mean Craggy to have the

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confidence to I mean you were talking about how he's

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never been in a movie before and yet he still

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has the confidence in the pitch meeting to be like

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doing lines of coke like I guess he's built different,

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and you can tell throughout the entire film.

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Speaker 3: He does an amazing job. I heard Harro Ramis talk

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about how the kind of layout of Caddyshack is like

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a Marx Brothers movie. I thought this was super interesting.

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So he sees caddy Shak as a Marx Brothers movie.

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You have Groucho Marx and Rodney Dangerfield, right, al Chervich,

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Grouchier Marx. Then you have Chico Marx and Ty Webb

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which is Chevy Chace's character, and then Harpo Marx is

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Bill Murray cross Backler. For whatever reason, that just really

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stuck with me. I thought that was really interesting.

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Speaker 2: And Karl Marx is Sandy the groundskeep. No, I'm sorry,

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that was a bad I apologize for want you to.

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Speaker 3: Kill every golfer on the course.

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Speaker 2: Correct you, I'm wrong. You know.

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Speaker 3: One of the interesting things I think we need to

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talk about is how this movie came together, and that's

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that's really the big story here. I think the story

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of Caddyshack was originally supposed to be the three way

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love triangle between Danny, Maggie, and Denunzie.

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Speaker 2: Where's Lacy Underall is coming in this?

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Speaker 3: Lacey anderls is you know, she's around, but she's a

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minor character, right. And as they started filming this, Harold

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Ramis is like, hey, Chevy, you're funny, keep going, improv

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do stuff. Hey Bill Murray, you're funny, do stuff, Rodney Dangerfield,

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you're hilarious, keep going. And those parts grew, and so

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something had to shrink, and they de emphasized that love

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triangle to where I mean, it's just kind of this

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whirlwind story. Yeah, Danny wins the tournament. He also gets

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the scholarship. We don't get any resolution with Danny. I mean, yeah,

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the original ending. I think they actually filmed this. Danny

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was at the airport and he supposed to either get

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on an airplane to go to college, or there was

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a so like, as he's getting ready to get on

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the airport to go to college, a pretty girl walks

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by and gets on an airplane going to the Bahamas,

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and he does the old U turn and gets on

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the airplane to go into the Bahamas.

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Speaker 2: Or in the words of John Paul Satre or Voago, fair.

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Speaker 3: Fair, But instead we get the wrap up of Ronnie Dingefield. Hey, everybody,

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we're all gonna get laid.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So they put this giant four hour movie together,

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they take it back to the studio and they look

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at it and go, this is nonsense. This doesn't make

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any sense at all. You got to get rid of this.

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You gotta get rid of that, You got get rid

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of this, you get heard of that. And so all

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of the parts that are getting cut are all of

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those caddy parts, the young actor parts, because the old

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comedians are doing such an incredible job. I mean, if

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you think about the most memorable lines from this movie.

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he just made up all of his stuff. And you've

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got Rodney Dangerfield and you got Ted Knight. Those are

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the three guys who have the most funny bits in

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this whole movie. And so then they've cut out all

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the non funny bits. They've got all these kind of vignettes,

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you know, with Chevy and Billy and all of these guys,

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and they're like, how do we string all this thing together?

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And it's John Peters, the producer, who goes, hey, we

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had that gopher. Maybe we can use the gopher as

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kind of a through line to connect all of these stories.

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And they're like, we shot three scenes with the gopher.

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How are we gonna do that? So they're like, we're

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gonna make another gopher, and we're gonna shoot more stuff.

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And so who do they call to make them a gopher?

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Speaker 3: John dyk Show, the guy does Star Wars, Right, Adam,

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thought's on the gopher.

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Speaker 5: I'm glad that you said that, because if you hadn't

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given me the origins, I wanted to go in cold.

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I was like, I don't know anything about the gopher

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like or how it showed up or when it arrived.

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I was gonna ask was that a script note, because

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like knowing how comedians work, knowing how they operate it,

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it just doesn't feel like it's in the same voice

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of the lampoon guys to be like, we got a

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big like we got a big old crazy like coming

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off Animal House.

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Speaker 4: Let's put an adorable little gopher that will.

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Speaker 5: Later inspire the movie ice Age in this flick Like

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it just it feels out of voice.

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Speaker 4: It feels like it's a different thing entirely. So I

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was gonna bet that it was.

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Speaker 5: And I'm glad that you told me that I wanted

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to fly blind and I was rewarded for it.

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Speaker 2: Sweet, that's why we're here.

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Speaker 3: Listen. Doug Kenny and Harold Ramis hated the gopher.

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Speaker 2: Oh right, yeah. Doug Kenny was getting more and more

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frustrated at how things were going. But when ultimately they

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said we want the gopher to be a bigger part

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of this, he quit. He just was like, you guys

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have ruined my movie. And he had gotten really bad

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into drinking and cocaine use at this time, and so

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Chevy Chase says, hey, man, I got some friends in Hawaii.

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Let me fly you out there. Give you time to

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kind of get your mind straight, get off the drugs,

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you know, because you know we're just flying drugs into

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Hawaii and.

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Speaker 3: Wrong Chevy Chase smuggled in cocaine in tennis balls. Yeah,

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but yeah, asking a drug addict to take another drug

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addict on vacation and to dry out not a good plan.

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Speaker 2: So Chevy has to go back. Yep. Doug Kenny's girlfriend

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comes out to be with him for a little while,

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and then she has to leave. And then I think

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it's Chevy supposed to be coming back to see him, right,

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he calls Chevy talks to you on the phone. Supposed

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to be coming back to see him. He's due out

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in a couple of days. And then Doug Kenny disappears. Yeah,

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and they can't find him, yeah for three days. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: They find him at the base of a cliff where

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he either a jumped, b slipped or see, as Harold

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Ramis said, slipped looking for a place to jump. But tragically,

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we lost Doug Kenny way too early. He did not

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which is that's really the sad part.

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Speaker 2: That's the tragedy, for sure, it is. But will lay

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the seed? Now, this movie was not a success whenever

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it first came out, and as we mentioned, there were

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another couple of movies that had come out that when

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Doug Kenny sawm he said, my movie will fail. It

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will fail.

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Speaker 3: Those movies are The Blues Brothers. Yeah, an Airplane, Right,

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so let's talk about that for a minute. What do

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you think about those those movies, Adam.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Airplane is another one of mine. If I'm in

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a power rank those two. I don't know if I

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ever connected with the Blues Brothers necessarily. I don't know

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if they resonated with me so much. The Blues Brothers

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what made Saturday Night Live. They're like they were so funny,

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and they were like, what was funny about him? And

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they're like the guys just really wanted to sing.

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Speaker 4: It's like.

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Speaker 5: They sound talented, and so the movie always felt like

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sort of a you know, a solid B B minus

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for me. But Airplane was definitely one of my childhood favorites.

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It was the alternative I watched to Kentucky Fried movie

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and Kareem abdul Jabbar, you want to talk about a

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sports crossover is? I mean, that's like a perfectly conceived

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bit beginning to end that develops and grows as that

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movie goes on. But yeah, that's a movie that's sort

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of I mean, above all other movies. That one taught

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me that you can cram everything you want to into

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an hour and a half script and obviously the studio

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will tell you what gets into the final cut. But

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you really can be a writer who says I want

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to write constant jokes.

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Speaker 4: Can I do that? Yes?

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Speaker 5: You can, right, So it set an expectation high. And

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it's funny that you mentioned it in comparison to Caddyshack

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and sort of sending Doug Kenny spiraling a little bit,

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because there are more jokes permitted an airplane, for sure,

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and sort of I would have expected a Lampoon writer

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to write Airplane instead. It's much more of a just

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satire hurricane than Caddyshack, which really is like, let's let

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characters loose and much of the greatest stuff is unscripted.

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Speaker 3: You know, the story that I heard Doug Kenny was

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angry at how Caddyshack was going. What they thought was

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their main threat that summer was the Blues Brothers, when

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that course was Jumble a Sheet and Danak and John

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Landis who had directed Animal House right, and so it

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was kind of like this split from Animal House, like

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half of the guys went to Caddyshack, half of them

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went to Blues Brothers, and that was sort of what

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they saw as their competition. He went to see a

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movie before the release of Caddyshack, and when he saw Airplane,

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He's like, man, we're sunk, We're toasts. He was the

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only guy in the theater not dying, laughing.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So we talked about Bill Murray improving all of

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his lines. Harold Ramis would give him something, just an outline,

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and he would go with it. And so at this time,

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Harold Ramis was running a lot, like doing a lot

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of long distance runs, and so whenever he was at

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the end of a race or the end of a

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run and he felt like he was out of gas,

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he would do a little sports announcer to himself in

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his head, like, here comes Harold Ramis down the stretch.

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He's got to huff it out. For these last few yards,

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you know. And so he tells Bill Murray, this is

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the idea that I have for this bit. Is this

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kind of inurit? Bill Murray's like, Santa More, I got it.

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is going to justly shot it, senor Ella story. Out

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of nowhere.

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Speaker 3: A former greene keeper now about to become the Mesthew's champion.

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Speaker 2: It looks like I'm a wreck best bit in the movie.

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Speaker 3: One take one take one take totally improved. Bill Murray

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said right before they shot, He's like, all I need

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is a weed whacker and four rosa mumps. Let's talk

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about the baby Ruth.

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Speaker 2: For a second.

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Speaker 4: Why not we got gotten this far.

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Speaker 2: So the caddies themselves lost out on a lot of

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footage obviously, right, they've become a very small part of

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the story. But one of the key components that the

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Caddies are present in is the pool scene.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it was the first scene of the shoot, I believe,

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where Sidney Morgan had to walk in dazzle everybody. Yeah,

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climbed to the top of the highboard and reportedly dive.

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Although she's legally blind, she couldn't see anything, she didn't

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ever contacts in, so she couldn't jump. She alsea can't swim.

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All she had to do is run to the edge

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in spring and then they cut to another diver who

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looks nothing like her. But yeah, So the thing that

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cracks me up that kind of slides by a lot

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of people, the sign that it says Caddy day at

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the pool one to one fifteen. You get fifteen minutes

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in the pool.

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Speaker 2: And then you have this ridiculous synchronized swimming bits that

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doesn't make any sense at all.

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Speaker 3: The water belly, why Harold Raimis is like, you know,

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what'd be funny water ballet.

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Speaker 2: The guys who were in the part are like, we're underwater.

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We couldn't hear him. You'll cut. We're down there dying

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for breath. We don't know what's going on.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they only had fifteen minutes and they used what

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twelve of them to do this busby Berkeley thing, not

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in a fishing use of time.

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Speaker 3: But the real thing that I wanted to talk about.

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Brian Doyle Murray says this actually happened while he was

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in high school. Yeah, okay, so the scene is you

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have a girl Caddy on the edge of the pool.

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I can't remember her name, but she's like breaking out

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a baby Ruth bar. But she goes to hand it

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to her friend. Her friend takes it and throws it

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in the pool. So you got the floating baby ruth

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bar and they have the Jaws theme. It's falding no.

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And then of course they drained the pool and I

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want to scrub, sterilize and disaffected, and Bill Murray picks

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it up and eats it. Right, that's the huge punch line.

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But I was going to ask you, Adam, so I

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was talking to you about this. Caddy Shack is a movie.

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I think that's passed down generationally. So like my dad

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found it super funny based on those Saturday Night Live guys.

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As a kid, I'm seven years old, I'm watching it.

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I think it's hilarious because you have somebody eating their.

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Speaker 2: Boogers and you have a gopher, dancing gopher.

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Speaker 3: And a dancing gopher. Right. But as I grew I

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appreciated the comedy. You just kind of move up the ladder.

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Speaker 4: Right thoughts on that, Yeah, it's funny.

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Speaker 5: The first time I saw it was around whenever the

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AFI release their list of the top one hundred comedies.

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So I think I was twelve or thirteen, and I

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sort of was like, all right, my goal, I'm gonna

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run down this whole list. I'm gonna do them all

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like and that list is weird, like there's some non

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comedies there, like Harold and Maud is like a top

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twenty ish or whatever.

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Speaker 4: But I had no.

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Speaker 5: Context, so I'm just like, all I'm gonna do them

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all like as many as I can. My favorite movie

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is at the time were Airplane Spaceballs, like Young Frankenstein,

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which was on the list, but most of these are

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not the kind of movies that the afis like.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, a top ten comedy you of all time?

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Speaker 5: Right, So it was so highly ranked that I think

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I was expecting more of that, and when it was like,

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I don't know, I'm twelve, and I was like, it

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was so it's so scenic, the plot is a little loose,

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it relies on you, you know, falling for each of

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these individual actors. And I was an SNL fan, but

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like I said, late eighties, early nineties not so much

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the oldest stuff. So I was slightly disappointed the first

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time I saw it, only because I think I was

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expecting zaniness, but like within the confines of satire, and

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there was just nothing for me to grasp onto. It

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just felt like it was very slapstick, and it's very

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it's like, let Bill do his thing, let Chevy do

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his thing, like and I think I wasn't necessarily ready

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for it. The rewatch was really satisfying of this movie.

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I think that's pretty clear. I mean, it's it's an

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all time classic for a reason. But once you become

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more acquainted with these actors, it's like, great an hour

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and a half with these hilarious people.

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Speaker 4: Like right, your expectations are different.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: I watched it one time. It was summer. I'm paling

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around with some older kids in my neighborhood and like

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my next door neighbor and then his sister and you know,

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her friend. And I'm like the young kid. I'm probably

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fourteen and they're sixteen, seventeen, eighteen. They're like, well, let's

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watch a movie tonight. I'm like, great, have you guys

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ever seen Caddyshacks. They're like no, I'm like, oh, it's

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super funny, let's watch it. And when I showed it,

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it bombed like nobody thought it was funny, so I

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do kind of agree with you. It does take some

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it's kind of an acquired ta why yeah you.

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Speaker 5: Gotta Yeah, the worst feeling. That is the worst feeling

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in the world. Though, recommending a movie just like older

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kids and having.

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Speaker 4: Them be like I did not like that at all. Yeah, yeah,

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I mean, neither is a joke.

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Speaker 5: You're like, you're waiting for them to laugh at your

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favorite bits and they're just not doing it, and you're like, oh, okay, yeah,

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we can do anything else.

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Speaker 4: We can play checkers, like yeah, growing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was That was a rough night.

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Speaker 2: Nothing I like it.

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Speaker 3: I was talking to a friend of mine, Stale Selby,

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who's one of our Patreon guys and super appreciate deal.

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I texted with him and I said, hey, we're gonna

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do caddy Shack and Happy Gilmore, And he just started

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firing back quotes from Caddyshack, Right, fifty bucks, you slice

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in the woods, kill all the golfers, right duty, all

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this stuff. We're just back and forth and I'm texting

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him and he's texting me. It became apparent that Happy Gilmore,

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although funny, doesn't elicit that kind of response, so.

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Speaker 2: I was going to save this for for final judgment time,

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but I'll go ahead. I'll just go ahead and say

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it now. Caddyshack is funny because of lines that are memorable. Yes,

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Happy Gilmore is funny because lines that are funny. In

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Happy Gilmore, you watch it for the first time, you're

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going to be laughing. Yes, but you probably won't remember

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as many of the lines, right, Caddyshack. You may not

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like it your first time. It may be the fifth

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time before you like kind of get it. But those

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lines will stay with you forever.

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Speaker 3: Yes, even the little whity to eat your fat.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if we quote a movie

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more than we quote Caddyshack. In my household, if there's

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a loud noise in the house something, you know, I've

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got five kids. That happens pretty frequently. My wife will

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go that must be the tea.

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Speaker 3: Every time I walk into a restaurant, I like, I

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want a hammerer, No, a cheeseburger. Even just the little

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lines that Ted Knight delivers that aren't even really funny lines.

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It's pauling, get your foot off the ball, and get

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your foot off the boat, right, And then the stupid

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poem that he gives.

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Speaker 2: It's the delivery. It's the delivery. Ted Knight's delivery is incredible.

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He's awesome. Okay, let's bump on over to Happy We

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don't have the cocaine laden parties going on with Happy Girl,

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or do we? Maybe? I don't know, I don't, we

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don't know.

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Speaker 4: You know, Corevino just dip it in there.

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Speaker 2: Hey.

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Speaker 3: By the way, Lee Trevino not proud of this movie.

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Speaker 2: Now. He was mad when because he didn't realize how

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profane it was. Sorry, Sorry, Lee, Lee's a big guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I did find it interesting. They had Mark Lai,

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who is the golf consultant who they brought in to

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talk about the movie with, and they're like, you know,

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I think it's gonna culminate with him whenning the Masters.

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We're gonna make him win the Masters. He's like, what, No,

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you can't desecrate the Masters, right, you can't do that,

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you know.

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Speaker 2: So just change the color of the coat. So that's

467
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:40,759
why gold Yeah, gold coat.

468
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,079
Speaker 3: Yeah. I love how in that that line in the

469
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,319
movie where he's like green jacket, gold jagget who gives it?

470
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:53,279
Speaker 2: You know? So there's that there's an interesting point I can't.

471
00:22:53,559 --> 00:22:56,319
I'm trying to remember the line. But there's two real

472
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,599
pro golfers that he comes up and meets, gets introduced

473
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,920
by s by Shooter to these two golfers and he's like, hey,

474
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:07,119
I heard you hit that something like four hundred yard whatever,

475
00:23:07,279 --> 00:23:11,519
drive like complimenting him, and Haby Gilmore has this kind

476
00:23:11,559 --> 00:23:14,000
of surprise look on his face. And it occurred to

477
00:23:14,079 --> 00:23:17,000
me on this last watching. It's the first time he's

478
00:23:17,079 --> 00:23:21,079
ever been complimented for something that he did athletically. Right,

479
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:25,000
He's a terrible skater, He's not a good shot. He

480
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,960
has a terrible attitude on the hockey rink, which is

481
00:23:28,039 --> 00:23:31,559
his whole purpose for being, and it ultimately ends up

482
00:23:31,599 --> 00:23:35,400
that he's made fun of by the guys who are

483
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:36,359
coaching the team.

484
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,039
Speaker 3: Right, he gets in a fight with the coach.

485
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,680
Speaker 2: Yes, And so it's this one moment where all of

486
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:45,160
a sudden he's recognized for something athletically that he's done.

487
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,160
That You've got this magical moment where you go, oh,

488
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,400
he actually has moved at this moment. That's pretty good.

489
00:23:51,519 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like it.

490
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 3: In real life, Adam Sandler is both terrible at hockey

491
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:56,400
and golf.

492
00:23:56,759 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 2: I think he's been practicing golf lately.

493
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Speaker 3: I saw that shot that he posts on Instagram.

494
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's been playing and trying to get better.

495
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,920
Apparently his dad was really good and so he would

496
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,519
take them out golfing, he and his friends, and the

497
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,039
character of Happy Gilmour is actually based on one of

498
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,119
his friends. So, Kyle macdonnaugh was this kid who was

499
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,440
a hockey player that was friends with Adam Sandler growing up.

500
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,279
His dad takes him out to the golf course and

501
00:24:22,519 --> 00:24:25,720
he wails the ball, like drives it all the way

502
00:24:25,799 --> 00:24:28,440
down the course, and his dad's like that is amazing.

503
00:24:28,519 --> 00:24:30,960
He's like just you know, love it all over him,

504
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,880
and Adam Sandler is just kind of like over here defeated,

505
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,079
like I'm your said dad. And so the idea of

506
00:24:37,759 --> 00:24:40,640
a guy who plays hockey being strong enough to hit

507
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,519
a golf ball four hundred yards comes from a childhood

508
00:24:43,519 --> 00:24:45,559
friend that he had. Now, as it turns out, there's

509
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,319
a real golfer, like a real guy who's a pro

510
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:52,000
golfer who was a hockey player who ended up winning,

511
00:24:52,519 --> 00:24:55,759
like I think he won the long what do they

512
00:24:55,799 --> 00:24:58,400
call the long distance shot? Like, is it the long

513
00:24:58,480 --> 00:24:59,599
distance drive contest?

514
00:24:59,759 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 3: Ye?

515
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. His name is Jamie Sidlowski and he is one

516
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,160
of the most prolific long drivers in the world. He's

517
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:13,119
able to hit the ball almost four hundred and fifty yards. Wow.

518
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,039
The PGA Championship will be going on at the time

519
00:25:16,079 --> 00:25:17,160
that this episode comes out.

520
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:18,160
Speaker 4: Nice.

521
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, hopefully the Little Blonde Caddie is back for

522
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:22,440
another running.

523
00:25:23,039 --> 00:25:24,519
Speaker 3: I want to give a quick shout out to my

524
00:25:24,839 --> 00:25:27,880
father in law, who I just attended his funeral this week.

525
00:25:28,039 --> 00:25:30,400
Still the best golfer I've ever been around. The first

526
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,640
time I took his daughter on a date, first time

527
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,119
I met her parents, they took us to a driving

528
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,039
range and he was killing the ball, like bombing it,

529
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:39,960
and I was like, dang, that's the long ways and

530
00:25:40,039 --> 00:25:42,240
he would like thump the club down and be like, dang,

531
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:43,680
I missed it. Really good golfer.

532
00:25:43,759 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 2: Okay, So can we talk about the movie for a second.

533
00:25:46,079 --> 00:25:48,799
Let's talk about it, okay. So the first thing that

534
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:53,680
I got to say is the Chinese lady Chinese Japanese,

535
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,079
I don't know what she was. The Asian lady who

536
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,440
overhears him as he's going through his come back to me.

537
00:26:01,039 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 4: I want to.

538
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:03,759
Speaker 2: Hysterical.

539
00:26:04,039 --> 00:26:05,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, what breakfast.

540
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought I thought that was brilliant.

541
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,319
Speaker 3: So that that scene is really funny because she happens

542
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,880
to be walking by as he's making a plea for

543
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,920
her to come back to his apartment. This random lady

544
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,240
walks by and hears it. She shows up at the door,

545
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,079
She's like, here I am, and it cuts to the

546
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,000
next like the next morning. That was funny enough for me,

547
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,400
and then she walks out of the bedroom, which was

548
00:26:29,519 --> 00:26:30,799
like a double punchline for me.

549
00:26:31,039 --> 00:26:34,279
Speaker 2: So and then I started writing down the funny bits

550
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,480
in this movie, and I realized that they were one

551
00:26:36,599 --> 00:26:39,400
right after another so fast that I couldn't keep up

552
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:40,799
with it. So I'm just going to say the first

553
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,559
funny bits. Okay, you've got that, lady, then you've got

554
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,400
He comes to his grandmother's house, sees them taking out

555
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:51,400
the furniture, and so he runs and jumps this guy's

556
00:26:51,559 --> 00:26:53,440
trying to move the couch and it slams the ground.

557
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,880
I thought that was hysterical. And then those guys become

558
00:26:57,039 --> 00:26:59,480
a key. Like the hook in the in the script

559
00:26:59,759 --> 00:27:02,519
is they're out there trying to shoot a golf ball

560
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,480
in his yard and he's like, you guys need to

561
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,279
get back to work. And that's where the bet of

562
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,279
you know, you could hit the ball further, I'd like

563
00:27:09,319 --> 00:27:11,319
to see you try it, right, And then he hits

564
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,599
the ball, and of course it's hysterical because it first

565
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,440
hits the house, and then when the owner of the

566
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,000
house is out there yelling and hits him and he's like, hey,

567
00:27:18,039 --> 00:27:19,640
he should have been standing out there. And then by

568
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,759
the time he hits it the third time, hits the

569
00:27:21,839 --> 00:27:23,839
lady who's in the window, and she rolls off the

570
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,359
roof and I'm crying. I'm laughing super far, like, oh,

571
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,319
we better get inside. But that the that sets the

572
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,559
stage for the entire rest of the movie. Is that

573
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,160
really hysterical moment.

574
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 3: Like you said, funny moments, not necessarily funny lines.

575
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 5: There's a death in the intro and then happy first

576
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,519
golf seam. We've got two people. We don't know how

577
00:27:41,559 --> 00:27:46,839
they are. There are a maximum of three depths, the

578
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:47,880
minimum of one in the.

579
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, she fell out of a two story window.

580
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 3: She's probably fine. I was gonna mention that happy Gilmore

581
00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:01,079
golf shot has been imitated at more driving ranges than

582
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:01,960
than anything.

583
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:03,839
Speaker 2: Have you heck I've.

584
00:28:03,759 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 4: Tried, Yeah, I haven't tried it. I should.

585
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I was gonna say, so, I'm not

586
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,960
a golfer, but I've tried it. You know, I've played golf,

587
00:28:13,039 --> 00:28:15,519
but I am not a golfer. But I have definitely

588
00:28:15,599 --> 00:28:18,079
tried that one. Adam, you got any golf in your blood.

589
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 5: I got too much golf in my blood to not

590
00:28:20,839 --> 00:28:23,839
be a good golfer. But I am not a great golfer.

591
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,079
My grandfather your my grandfather's best golfer i've ever seen,

592
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:28,960
hold in the one at the age of like eighty nine.

593
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,440
My dad yo, yeah, oh yeah, I stole his golf

594
00:28:33,559 --> 00:28:36,079
caps growing up, like he's got the like Irish little

595
00:28:36,079 --> 00:28:38,839
golf hats, but I did not did not imbue me

596
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,680
with the power of the putter. My my dad was

597
00:28:42,759 --> 00:28:45,240
the accountant that helped design a course called the brig

598
00:28:45,359 --> 00:28:47,480
so he learned to golf as a as an adult.

599
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,519
Speaker 4: Nice, I guess I could still do that.

600
00:28:50,559 --> 00:28:53,359
Speaker 5: And then my soon to be father in law and

601
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,599
uh my brothers in law are big golfers, and every

602
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,240
time I go there, I'm like, I'm sit this one

603
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,759
out as well. I have not, so hopefully someday. I mean,

604
00:29:01,799 --> 00:29:03,960
there's too much golf in my general area for me

605
00:29:04,039 --> 00:29:06,279
to not be good. But I'm not good.

606
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 2: I decided at some point I'm not playing golf anymore

607
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,799
because I don't want to look ridiculous. That's what I thought.

608
00:29:12,839 --> 00:29:15,839
I just unless like, I'm so bad, I'm not going

609
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,759
to play anymore. I don't want to look ridiculous. And

610
00:29:18,039 --> 00:29:21,119
finally we go play at this really nice course that's

611
00:29:21,359 --> 00:29:23,680
called Top of the Rock that's up in Branson, Missouri

612
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,559
and next Brandso, Missouri. Yeah, and it's my guys from work,

613
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,640
and they're liked, we have an odd number of people

614
00:29:30,759 --> 00:29:34,599
without you. You have to play where teams. I'm like, okay,

615
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,559
I don't have any clubs. They're like, we'll let you

616
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,920
use our clubs. I'm like, okay, I'm terrible. They're like,

617
00:29:39,319 --> 00:29:42,920
it's okay, it's a scramble, all right. Fine, And I

618
00:29:43,039 --> 00:29:45,759
go and I play, and I don't care, and I

619
00:29:45,839 --> 00:29:47,720
shoot the best game of golf I've ever shot in

620
00:29:47,759 --> 00:29:50,559
my life. There you go, So there you go. Just

621
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,039
go out with nothing to lose, and you'll and you'll

622
00:29:54,039 --> 00:29:54,759
shoot a better game.

623
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:55,319
Speaker 4: That's right.

624
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,119
Speaker 3: I'm just hide in the bushes next time you play

625
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:03,680
and say jackass, dude, good slice of the woods. I'll

626
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,880
tell you who else was bad golfers. Everybody on the

627
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:10,920
cast of Caddy Show. Yeah, except kind of Michael O'Keeffe.

628
00:30:11,279 --> 00:30:14,279
But here's the funny thing. So like Chevy Chase not

629
00:30:14,359 --> 00:30:16,920
a great golfer, The guy who played d Nunzio terrible.

630
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,200
You can watch his swing and see he's terrible. Rodney

631
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,799
Danefield terrible. Michael O'Keefe, who plays Danny Newton, actually has

632
00:30:22,799 --> 00:30:25,200
a pretty swing. You can tell he's played before. He's

633
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,160
a pretty good athlete. He didn't play golf for the

634
00:30:27,279 --> 00:30:29,519
next twenty five years because every time he went to

635
00:30:29,599 --> 00:30:33,000
the golf course, the entire place lined up and watched

636
00:30:33,079 --> 00:30:36,079
him drive and putt and play and at him. Yeah,

637
00:30:36,559 --> 00:30:38,799
he's like, I can't handle this pressure. Everybody wants to

638
00:30:38,839 --> 00:30:40,920
see me play golf. Yeah, so he gave up the

639
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:41,880
game of twenty five years.

640
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 2: So he's been in a lot of stuff, nothing anywhere

641
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,759
as big as Caddyshack was. But have you ever seen

642
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,440
Sneaky Pete. No, he plays the dirty cop in the

643
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:54,039
first season of Sneaky Pete and he's a great bad guy,

644
00:30:54,119 --> 00:30:58,720
which is really because he's kind of a little goofy, yeah,

645
00:30:58,759 --> 00:31:01,559
but athletic looking guy for Caddyshack. But he was a

646
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,680
great dirty cop and sneaky interesting.

647
00:31:03,799 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 5: I liked him in Caddyshack more than I thought I would.

648
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,160
I feel like he's a legendary film like not good

649
00:31:08,279 --> 00:31:11,400
enough actor. Like when people are coming up a conversation

650
00:31:11,519 --> 00:31:14,279
of like which parts would we recast, he's like top

651
00:31:14,319 --> 00:31:16,440
of the mountain, And so I watched with those goggles

652
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,960
and I was like, you know what, not bad, pretty good.

653
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 2: I think he does a pretty good job in that

654
00:31:21,079 --> 00:31:23,839
first scene that he is in with Chevy Chase, where

655
00:31:23,839 --> 00:31:27,160
they're walking down the course. They're improving all of those

656
00:31:27,279 --> 00:31:30,640
lines and he's a kid. Chevy Chase is at this

657
00:31:30,799 --> 00:31:34,279
point a veteran improv actor, and he's holding his own

658
00:31:34,359 --> 00:31:36,920
you do drugs, Danny every day? That isn't good on

659
00:31:37,079 --> 00:31:39,039
the spot and they have to finish right as they

660
00:31:39,119 --> 00:31:40,480
hit the camera exactly. Yeah.

661
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:41,079
Speaker 3: Wow.

662
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 2: One thing end of production that we always talk about

663
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,839
is soundtrack, Right, is that where you're going?

664
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:47,519
Speaker 3: That's where I was going.

665
00:31:47,559 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 2: Okay, then you go there. I think we can go

666
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:49,240
there now.

667
00:31:49,319 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 3: When they got done with the movie, they're like, we

668
00:31:51,079 --> 00:31:52,720
need a song, So who are we going to get

669
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,920
to do this. Harold Ramis is like, how about Pink Floyd.

670
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,079
Speaker 2: Pink Floyd, who had just turned down Flash Gordon, Right.

671
00:31:59,599 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 3: And so they call Pink Floyd. They're no, not interested right.

672
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,759
Speaker 2: Now, Pink Floyd the Wall came out of nineteen eighty

673
00:32:05,759 --> 00:32:07,920
as well, Right, they're a little busy. Yeah, so they

674
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,599
why would you make music for the things you're going

675
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:11,359
to compete against?

676
00:32:11,519 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 3: Right?

677
00:32:11,839 --> 00:32:12,039
Speaker 2: Yeah.

678
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 3: So John Peters was a hairdresser before he was a producer,

679
00:32:16,279 --> 00:32:20,559
met and started dating Barbara streisand who had just done

680
00:32:20,599 --> 00:32:25,640
a song with Kenny Loggins. Okay, so John Peters is like, well,

681
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,839
I'm kind of friends with Kenny Loggins. Let's call him

682
00:32:27,839 --> 00:32:28,680
in here and see what he's.

683
00:32:28,599 --> 00:32:29,799
Speaker 2: Got from Loggins and Messina.

684
00:32:29,839 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 3: From Loggins and Messina. So they bring him in, they

685
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,319
show him the rough cut. He comes up, and he

686
00:32:35,480 --> 00:33:01,519
just brings his guitar and plays I'm all right since

687
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:09,559
and thereby becomes the greatest eighties soundtrack singer of all time.

688
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,559
Speaker 2: I mean, if you if you just look at his

689
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,119
big ones, they're the biggest ones of the eighties. You've

690
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:19,759
got Caddie Shock, You've got Footloose, how you seed.

691
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 4: Will so this time.

692
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:35,359
Speaker 2: Now gotta cut Louise, put up Sue. You've got top

693
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:36,039
freaking gun.

694
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 3: You got two on footloose, you got two on top Gun.

695
00:33:43,559 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 4: Now you sold.

696
00:33:45,799 --> 00:33:46,839
Speaker 3: No, let's take it out.

697
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 5: I'm salad.

698
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 3: You've got meet me halfway from over the Top?

699
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 2: Was that?

700
00:34:17,639 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 4: Oh No? I was just giving over the top and.

701
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:25,280
Speaker 3: Over the Top the world's greatest harmlessly movie. You've got

702
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,400
you know, You've got Nobody's fool, which is the only

703
00:34:32,519 --> 00:34:33,920
good thing from Caddy Shack too.

704
00:34:34,599 --> 00:34:36,119
Speaker 2: It's times time.

705
00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:58,639
Speaker 3: The lab, I know, I bring up Caddy Shack to

706
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:03,960
get all choked up. Kenny Loggins shaped the eighties soundtracks danger.

707
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 2: Zone, Yeah and Loose and I'm all right, it's still

708
00:35:07,079 --> 00:35:08,639
a fantastic song. It is.

709
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 3: It's perfect, and you're setting the tone right, And so

710
00:35:12,039 --> 00:35:14,960
the tone of the whole movie gets set in that

711
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:16,000
he's in his.

712
00:35:16,199 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 2: Scene, right, him and the Gopher like it's his music,

713
00:35:19,519 --> 00:35:22,320
the gopher going through the golf course and then popping

714
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,760
out and starting to do a little dance. And it's

715
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,280
that moment that you're free to accept any of the

716
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,960
weirdness that's about to happen in the rest of this movie. Yep,

717
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,719
which again I think is why it is an acquired taste. Yeah.

718
00:35:35,199 --> 00:35:38,639
So now to the soundtrack of Happy Gilmore. Okay, obviously

719
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,480
we've got a lot of like classic rock.

720
00:35:40,559 --> 00:35:42,079
Speaker 3: That's kind of Adam Sandler's deal.

721
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so you got Tuesday's.

722
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,639
Speaker 3: Gone Got Endless Love by Diana Ross and Isla Ritchie

723
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,239
right on the ice rink.

724
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 2: Right. But the guy who was the like the composer,

725
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:57,039
it's the guy from Devo. It's Mark Mothersbaw. Really yeah.

726
00:35:57,079 --> 00:35:59,199
The guy who wrote Whip It whipp It good is

727
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:02,360
is the guy who is the composer for you.

728
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:03,599
Speaker 3: You are blowing my mind.

729
00:36:03,639 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 2: Oh well, there you go. That's why I'm here.

730
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 4: I flag that too. He's also responsible for rug Rats

731
00:36:10,079 --> 00:36:11,320
that's right, wow.

732
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,559
Speaker 2: Right, which is a solid soundtrack. I mean they have

733
00:36:13,639 --> 00:36:16,599
a solid soundtrack on that show. I've got kids that

734
00:36:16,679 --> 00:36:18,320
are old enough that they would have watched that show

735
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:19,480
back then and I can remember it.

736
00:36:19,639 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 4: Wow.

737
00:36:20,079 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 3: Since we're talking about soundtrack and sort of sounds, the

738
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:28,360
gopher noises are stock sounds from the TV show Flipper.

739
00:36:28,159 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 2: Dolphins Sounds Dolphins, Yeah, them and the Raptors and Corny Dolphins,

740
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:34,639
Corney Dolphins.

741
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 3: Back to our Jurassic Park episode, the sounds that Chevy

742
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,880
Chase makes while he's putting the no no no, no

743
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:40,119
no no.

744
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:40,559
Speaker 2: Yeah.

745
00:36:41,119 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 3: That is from The Six Million Dollar Man.

746
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, because he just told me. He's like,

747
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,880
you need a sound effect. Now, Chevy came up with that.

748
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,800
But what Yeah, you're totally right now that you say,

749
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:50,960
that's clearly what he's doing.

750
00:36:51,039 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, Harold Ramis just said, hey, we need some sort

751
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,320
of spiritual sound when you make these putts. He pulled

752
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,199
that from The Six Million Dollar Man, which I had

753
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,760
no idea, but when I when I saw that, I'm like, oh, yeah,

754
00:37:01,679 --> 00:37:02,119
makes sense.

755
00:37:02,519 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 2: Sure.

756
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,280
Speaker 3: Did you know that Scott Columbia, the guy who played

757
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,800
d Nunzio and Cindy Morgan played Laci Drol dated for

758
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:09,960
two years after this movie.

759
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,639
Speaker 2: Do you know who he was dating during this movie?

760
00:37:13,079 --> 00:37:15,880
No became the wife of one of the greatest guitar

761
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:16,840
players of all.

762
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 3: Time, Valary Burnelli.

763
00:37:18,199 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 2: Yes, so, Dnunzio and Valerie Burtnelli were dating at the

764
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,360
time that she comes to visit him. You know, she's

765
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,199
doing one day at a time, I think at this time,

766
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,079
and she comes down to visit him. They're like, let's

767
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,559
let's sneak out and go to a club, and so

768
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:38,360
it's him her, the really tall goofy like you don't

769
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,480
see him much, just because you don't see the caddies much.

770
00:37:40,519 --> 00:37:44,239
With the tall goofy guy, right, and some other girl

771
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,559
all go out and the only place they can really

772
00:37:46,639 --> 00:37:49,920
find is this country in Western Bar And this six

773
00:37:50,039 --> 00:37:51,920
foot eight guy decides, you know what, I'm going to

774
00:37:52,039 --> 00:37:54,280
change the radio and so he switches it over to

775
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,480
some sort of disco station. Like the whole place is like,

776
00:37:58,400 --> 00:37:59,960
what just happened? He's like, oh, I just thought we

777
00:38:00,079 --> 00:38:02,599
could do some and they realized they had to get out, right,

778
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:04,159
they had to leave.

779
00:38:05,599 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 3: That's cool, Okay. One thing I really have to talk

780
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:13,119
about before we wrap up the final scene for Caddyshack.

781
00:38:13,599 --> 00:38:15,400
They're going to blow up the golf course, right, And

782
00:38:15,599 --> 00:38:17,440
when I say blow up the golf course, they're really

783
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,559
going to blow up the golf course. They made a

784
00:38:19,679 --> 00:38:23,039
faux green between two fairways. They built it up on

785
00:38:23,159 --> 00:38:26,599
a huge pile of explosives. Ciddy Morgan says she remembers

786
00:38:26,639 --> 00:38:29,760
the day they were pumping in gasoline. So they're like,

787
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,360
we don't really have permission to do this, right. They

788
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:37,400
had not really discussed this small detail with the members

789
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,119
of the golf course. So John Peters is like, I'm

790
00:38:40,119 --> 00:38:41,639
gonna take care of this. So he takes all the

791
00:38:41,679 --> 00:38:44,199
big wigs out to dinner, and while they're out to dinner,

792
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,320
a news story comes on the TV and they show

793
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,559
these massive fireball explosions.

794
00:38:48,639 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, one of the pilots called it in as a

795
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:50,960
plane crash.

796
00:38:51,039 --> 00:38:53,039
Speaker 3: They was close to the airports. They got a plane

797
00:38:53,079 --> 00:38:56,039
had crashed, and so they stole away all the guys

798
00:38:56,079 --> 00:38:58,239
that would give them trouble, blew the crap out of

799
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,719
the golf course, and you have that fantasm as finale

800
00:39:01,199 --> 00:39:03,440
where Noonan sinks the Birdie putt to win.

801
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,119
Speaker 5: Right, I understand why they cleared the big wigs out.

802
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,639
They did a crime at the crime.

803
00:39:10,119 --> 00:39:13,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so they had to bring in a composer. Obviously,

804
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,639
Kenny Loggins is good stuff, but he's not going to

805
00:39:15,679 --> 00:39:18,840
fill up a whole movie. So they brought in Johnny Mandel,

806
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,559
who is a well known composer. He did the theme

807
00:39:22,639 --> 00:39:28,039
from mash he did The Sandpiper, and he did Glengarry

808
00:39:28,079 --> 00:39:30,800
Glenn Ross. He had done a lot of really great movies,

809
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,440
but he was excited at most about that scene. That

810
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,400
you're talking about with the explosions, because he was able

811
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,760
to pull the old overture of eighteen twelve Taichowski thing

812
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,039
no no, no, no no no, dun dump Yeah, And

813
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,000
so there you go.

814
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 4: Johnny Mendel Loggins didn't do the classical meeting. Learned some

815
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:52,440
new every day.

816
00:39:52,679 --> 00:39:55,599
Speaker 3: Okay, little tidbit. The scene when the golf ball hits

817
00:39:55,679 --> 00:39:59,199
Judge smells and the balls actually happened to Harold Ramis.

818
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,159
He said he played golf like three times in his

819
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:01,639
whole life.

820
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 2: Happened to him.

821
00:40:02,639 --> 00:40:04,559
Speaker 3: The second time he played golf, well, hite.

822
00:40:04,519 --> 00:40:06,199
Speaker 2: Him in the nuts, and the third time and then

823
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:06,679
he was done.

824
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,039
Speaker 3: I'm done. One of the things I thought was funny

825
00:40:11,159 --> 00:40:15,000
is the horn that Al Shrovik's car makes. That sound

826
00:40:15,519 --> 00:40:21,760
play right here right, that's we're in the money. I

827
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,920
never really caught that until I started looking to Yeah.

828
00:40:25,159 --> 00:40:26,400
And the only reason I know this is because I

829
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:27,159
watched Lady.

830
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:27,760
Speaker 1: Tunes as a kid.

831
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,599
Speaker 2: Who didn't We're in the money.

832
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 3: All right, Let's get to post production. D you where

833
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:34,039
you go?

834
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:41,159
Speaker 2: So Caddy Shack did poorly. Turns out that Doug Kenny

835
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:46,400
was right. Everybody loved airplane and everybody was either lukewarm

836
00:40:46,679 --> 00:40:52,119
critic wise or hated Caddyshack, and it was only because

837
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:56,800
of VHS that the true worth of caddy Shack can

838
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:01,199
be realized. On the other hand, Happy Gilmour was instantaneous success.

839
00:41:01,519 --> 00:41:03,559
It ranked number two, like I said, at the box

840
00:41:03,599 --> 00:41:06,920
office on his debut weekend. It made on his debut

841
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:11,800
weekend eight point five million dollars and ultimately made back

842
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,920
its budget pretty quickly of twelve million, and got a

843
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:19,159
total of forty one point two million worldwide. So you know,

844
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,199
nearly quadrupling your budget is a pretty good response. And

845
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,800
it was also a critical success. When Caddyshack happened, and

846
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,920
it was this kind of weird stringing of vignettes together

847
00:41:30,079 --> 00:41:33,760
by this weird gofer thing. I don't think that moviegoers

848
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,119
were ready for it. Yet by the time we get

849
00:41:36,159 --> 00:41:39,639
to Adam Sandler, it's still the same thing. I mean,

850
00:41:39,679 --> 00:41:42,639
it's you've got a storyline. It's a better storyline that

851
00:41:42,679 --> 00:41:45,199
you have going I mean, a more coherent storyline that

852
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,280
you have going through it. But it is now playing

853
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:53,039
for people who've grown up with Caddyshack and therefore sells better.

854
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,280
They're ready for it because of Caddyshack.

855
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 3: I think yeah, I think so too.

856
00:41:57,079 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 4: Adam thoughts, Yeah, it's a classic sports movie thing, right,

857
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,679
They don't take that much thought for these mad cap

858
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:04,559
sports comedies.

859
00:42:04,639 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 5: Somebody's got to win something. Somebody needs the prize from

860
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,800
what they're winning in order to either fulfill a family

861
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,079
obligation or you know, get something of note for them,

862
00:42:14,199 --> 00:42:17,519
like patch, a relationship back together, et cetera. So it

863
00:42:17,639 --> 00:42:19,920
is following the same pathway when you break it down,

864
00:42:20,039 --> 00:42:24,800
equally lose. Gilmore has more room. The antagonist protagonist relationship

865
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,360
is a little more towards the forefront because in Caddyshack

866
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:31,480
you've got Smells and Rodnie Dangerfield and also Danny and

867
00:42:31,559 --> 00:42:34,599
also Ty Webb. Like there's a lot of people floating around.

868
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,039
It's sort of it's easier in Gilmour to have the

869
00:42:37,119 --> 00:42:39,599
mono amano. But at the heart of both it is

870
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:45,320
the same. It's underdog needs to acquire something via sport.

871
00:42:45,639 --> 00:42:49,119
The difference is the familiarity Noonan knows all about golf.

872
00:42:49,679 --> 00:42:53,079
Gilmour is learning, and then there are more ancillary pieces

873
00:42:53,159 --> 00:42:53,719
in Caddy Show.

874
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,760
Speaker 3: Okay, real quick thoughts on the antagonists. Our buddy Jeff

875
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,480
Mazuka of the thirty something movie podcast, who's a good

876
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,679
friend of ours? He kind of punted a question to me.

877
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,920
He's like, who is the better bad guy? Is it

878
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:06,760
Judge Smells?

879
00:43:07,079 --> 00:43:09,519
Speaker 6: The most important decision you can make right now is

880
00:43:09,599 --> 00:43:10,519
what do you standing for?

881
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 2: Then?

882
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 1: Goodness?

883
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 2: Well badness? Or is it?

884
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 3: Shooter McGavin, You're gonna beat me the gulf?

885
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,079
Speaker 1: Oh you're on, You're in big trouble.

886
00:43:24,119 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 2: Though Pally Pieces are like you for Breakfast. I think

887
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:31,039
they are both the features that make this movie. Not

888
00:43:31,199 --> 00:43:34,480
that the movie is empty without them, but it lacks

889
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,000
a lot if they're not in it. I think that

890
00:43:37,159 --> 00:43:40,480
Ted Knight's performance, his delivery of lines that are only

891
00:43:40,639 --> 00:43:45,280
kind of funny making them really funny, and his what

892
00:43:45,559 --> 00:43:48,960
is probably genuine reaction to some of the craziness that's

893
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,639
going on around him in real life coming through in

894
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:56,679
the screen is the foundation of Caddyshack, and Wyatt is

895
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:01,559
so good. Whereas with Christopher McDonald, he's created a character

896
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,880
that is so iconic he has adopted it as himself

897
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,719
for the rest of his life. I mean, the character

898
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:14,440
of Shooter McGavin, despite how despicable he is, is someone

899
00:44:14,679 --> 00:44:17,840
who again makes this movie the movie isn't the same

900
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,880
without Shooter McGavin. And I think that the bad guys,

901
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,079
if you want to call him that, in here are

902
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,039
key And I think it's kind of interesting because with

903
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,840
both of them as big a jerks as they are,

904
00:44:30,559 --> 00:44:33,199
you can kind of see where that type of person

905
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,119
would be coming from. Like you can kind of see

906
00:44:35,159 --> 00:44:39,840
how Judge Males doesn't want this pristine thing that he

907
00:44:40,119 --> 00:44:43,719
loves desecrated, which is why his very first scene is

908
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,760
about what's going to happen to this golf course when

909
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,960
the gophers come in? Right, he doesn't want it messed up.

910
00:44:50,159 --> 00:44:53,960
And Rodney Dangerfield is like the human gopher that's coming

911
00:44:54,039 --> 00:44:57,400
in and ruining what he loves. And it's the same

912
00:44:57,519 --> 00:45:02,079
thing with Shooter McGavin. Right here is is this hockey guy,

913
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:07,239
this gutter guy, coming in and messing up the pristine

914
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:11,920
sport of professional golf. Like there's a reason they call

915
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,800
it a golf clap, Right, it's this tiny little tap

916
00:45:15,119 --> 00:45:19,119
and everybody's quiet. You know, there's not cheering, there's not

917
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,880
beach balls. What's wrong with you people? This is golf.

918
00:45:23,039 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 3: Go back to your shanty.

919
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 2: And so again you can see, even as bad as

920
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,639
they are, you can kind of see, yeah, I could.

921
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,280
You know if somebody came in, like if you went

922
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,840
to my favorite restaurant and you started like having a

923
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,159
food fight, I'd be upset. Right, That's basically what's happening

924
00:45:40,199 --> 00:45:41,960
with both of these guys, and they're just trying to

925
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:42,760
protect what they love.

926
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,760
Speaker 3: You can totally see it when when he's like, you're

927
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,960
never going to be a member at Bushwood and he's

928
00:45:48,039 --> 00:45:51,440
like member, Well, this whole place sucks, and the judge

929
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,119
is like, you can't even say. I mean, he's like

930
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:58,360
blown away. This is what he totally loves this course,

931
00:45:58,639 --> 00:46:01,599
and you know writing Najer is so irreverent. He's gonna

932
00:46:01,639 --> 00:46:02,239
buy the place.

933
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 2: How'd you like to make fourteen dollars a hard way?

934
00:46:06,159 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 3: Oh you must have been something before electricity? Adam, Where

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are you bad guy? What's your bad guy on this one?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I think you nailed it down to the essence. But

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I would say that I think Judge Smail's complaint is

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more justifiable. Like Rodney Dangerfield is annoying, he is a

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nat and he doesn't really belong there. Happy Gilmour is

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somebody who ostensibly is bringing more viewership to the tour

942
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:35,360
and eventually becomes a champion in many respects. So like

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00:46:35,559 --> 00:46:37,639
that rivalry is more rooted in just like I don't

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00:46:37,639 --> 00:46:39,719
want to lose. I'm angry and it's sort of like

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00:46:40,039 --> 00:46:42,760
a baby contest. He's like throwing a fit. I understand

946
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:46,760
more why Judge Smails is angry at Rodney Dangerfield's intrusion

947
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,800
and presence, Like this is relaxation time. It's not a profession.

948
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,719
It's somebody interrupting a place that you love, where you're

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00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,159
trying to spend your downtime. So in terms of the

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only way I would be able to compare them is

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00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:01,599
by saying that Shooter McGavin's motivation is slightly less justified,

952
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:03,840
just because it kind of paints him as a sore

953
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:05,119
loser and a bad competitor.

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00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:09,159
Speaker 3: You know when when Shooter McGavin invades Happy's happy place,

955
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:13,360
it's so disruptive when he's jumping in, he's gonna make

956
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,320
out with his girl, and you know he's gonna make

957
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,440
out with his grandma, all this stuff. Shooter McGavin, I think,

958
00:47:18,559 --> 00:47:21,639
is a is a better, more hate able bad guy.

959
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,639
Judge Smails is just kind of a stuffy guy. And

960
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,239
the part that cracks me up. You know, Judge Smails

961
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,960
is so everything in his life has been up to

962
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,719
this standard. And then the day that that gopher comes in,

963
00:47:34,079 --> 00:47:37,119
because Al Shirvik is building condos across the way, it's

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00:47:37,159 --> 00:47:38,800
like the worst day of his life. It's like, do

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00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,440
you know what gophers could do to a golf course?

966
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,840
And then right it proceeds to be like the worst

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00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:44,760
three weeks of his life.

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00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:52,679
Speaker 2: Destroys his balls, because destroys his boat and destroys his

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00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,719
golf course in a much bigger way than the gopher

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00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:55,199
ever could have.

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Speaker 3: So there you go, Jeff, that's our take. Yeah, all right,

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we're gonna put a.

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00:47:58,679 --> 00:47:59,039
Speaker 6: Bow on this.

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00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 2: A time for final judgment.

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00:48:00,559 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 3: Let's go final judgment.

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00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,679
Speaker 2: Okay, who's gonna go first? I want you go first?

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00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:06,159
All right, yeah, decision time.

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00:48:06,199 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 4: Okay, thank you. The floor is mine. If you're like

979
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,239
a lot of pressure, A lot of pressure here.

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00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:15,159
Speaker 5: I grew up as I, as I continue to say,

981
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:19,159
sort of with this joke box mentality and with this

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00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,519
era of Saturday Night Live. So I will say that

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00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:27,039
in terms of laugh out loud funniness for me and comfort,

984
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:31,119
I side with happy Gilmore. I think it's funnier beginning

985
00:48:31,159 --> 00:48:33,599
to end, and I think it's funnier on a first watch.

986
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:35,960
That is not to say that I do not have

987
00:48:36,039 --> 00:48:40,079
appreciation for what Caddyshack is. And you guys have demonstrated

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00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,119
over and over again how quotable it is. We could

989
00:48:42,159 --> 00:48:44,119
do another hour, like, we could get to the whole

990
00:48:44,159 --> 00:48:44,800
length of the movie.

991
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:46,760
Speaker 4: I think. I let you guys go, I think.

992
00:48:47,639 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 5: But it is an acquired taste, I guess is right.

993
00:48:51,079 --> 00:48:53,719
But it's sort of like Caddyshack is the predecessor and

994
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:55,880
the comfort food, and then Happy Gilmore sort of is

995
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,119
the evolutionary version for me, So I'm gonna I'm gonna

996
00:48:58,119 --> 00:48:59,320
go with Happy all.

997
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 3: Right, Okay for me, this is the biggest mismatch that

998
00:49:03,039 --> 00:49:06,079
we have done so far in all of our episodes. Wow,

999
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,719
it is Caddyshack by a hurricane.

1000
00:49:10,079 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 2: There was actually a hurricane.

1001
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,119
Speaker 3: I know it disrupted the filming.

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00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:15,039
Speaker 2: Nice thank you.

1003
00:49:15,199 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 3: When you have Rodney Dangerfield, Ted Night, Chevy, Chase, Bill

1004
00:49:19,559 --> 00:49:23,960
Murray at their peak comedy, just the enseng on how

1005
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,800
it works. It is acquired taste, and it isn't as

1006
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,880
slapstick and silly funny, and you don't maybe laugh as much,

1007
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,000
but For me, it's a much more fun ride. It

1008
00:49:33,159 --> 00:49:36,880
is comfort food. I could watch this improv groundskeeper about

1009
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,920
to win the Master's scene over and over. The Gopher

1010
00:49:40,119 --> 00:49:42,639
has been comfort food for me since I was seven

1011
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:46,599
years old. Everything about Caddyshack for me, it is a landslide. Now,

1012
00:49:46,639 --> 00:49:49,639
Happy Gilmore is funny. I did enjoy it. Adam Sandler

1013
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,599
cracks me up, But it's Caddyshack landslide.

1014
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 6: Really, the most quotable movie of all time, the most

1015
00:49:56,199 --> 00:49:59,719
uneven odds of all of the movies that we've done, yes,

1016
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:04,400
including Brave Heart and Glad He Yes, oh my gosh.

1017
00:50:04,519 --> 00:50:07,039
Speaker 2: Yes. Okay, so it's up to me. I'm the tie

1018
00:50:07,079 --> 00:50:07,679
breaker here.

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00:50:07,679 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 3: I think.

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00:50:08,079 --> 00:50:08,119
Speaker 2: So.

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00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,639
Speaker 5: I'm glad I showed up for this one in on

1022
00:50:11,679 --> 00:50:14,360
the wrong side of history, voting for Walter Mondale over here.

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00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 2: Okay, so I cannot. I'm still kind of baffled that

1024
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,360
you would say it was a gigantic plan slide. I mean,

1025
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,559
I can understand you picking Caddyshack, but to say that

1026
00:50:23,639 --> 00:50:26,000
it's a landslide is kind of unbelievable to me. Okay,

1027
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,840
So I have very similar ideas on both of these. Yes,

1028
00:50:30,119 --> 00:50:35,599
Caddyshack is comfort food. Yes, Caddyshack is more quotable. And

1029
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,880
here's an interesting thing. We'll probably stand the test of

1030
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,480
time as yours go on longer than Happy Gilmour.

1031
00:50:42,519 --> 00:50:42,760
Speaker 1: It will.

1032
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 2: But right now, I'm if I'm walking out the door

1033
00:50:46,039 --> 00:50:49,079
and I'm grabbing a DVD or a Blu ray, or

1034
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,840
I'm finding something on a streaming network that I'm going

1035
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,840
to sit down and watch, it's going to be Happy Gilmore.

1036
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:58,000
Without question. It's going to be Happy Gilmore because it's

1037
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:02,400
a more coherent storyline. As we go through, you have

1038
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,880
more stakes involved with all of the things that are

1039
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:10,480
going on, and it's funnier. It is a funnier movie,

1040
00:51:11,159 --> 00:51:14,239
more laugh out loud moments, and more even intellectual humor

1041
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:18,239
throughout the movie than Caddyshak is. Now, if I'm going

1042
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,199
to have a movie that's I'm gonna have on while

1043
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,039
I'm working in the house and I don't have to

1044
00:51:23,079 --> 00:51:26,519
watch the screen, I'd pick Caddyshack over Happy Gilmour because

1045
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,760
of all of those lines that I have to attribute

1046
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:33,840
to nostalgia, like they've become iconic because of what we've

1047
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:37,000
made them. What they were when we were kids, when

1048
00:51:37,039 --> 00:51:39,599
we were seven watching with our dad or our brother whoever.

1049
00:51:40,119 --> 00:51:43,239
They have those lines that stick with us. But to

1050
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:46,760
sit down and watch with a critical eye, which is

1051
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,400
what I did with both of these movies before we

1052
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:53,079
had this podcast. I got to say, Caddyshack really isn't

1053
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:57,440
as good as it has become for a first time

1054
00:51:57,519 --> 00:51:59,880
watch or for watching with your kids or something like that.

1055
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,159
So I got to say, happy Bill Moore wentz today. Wow.

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00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 3: Wow, Well, we want to hear from you guys. Everybody

1057
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,280
out there. Please hit us up on Facebook, hit us

1058
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,639
up on Twitter, sit us an email, help me get

1059
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:13,519
rid of these guests of the Scots.

1060
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,800
Speaker 2: And by the way, let me just say this, I

1061
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,440
didn't get to say this. One of the greatest decisions

1062
00:52:19,679 --> 00:52:23,320
of Caddyshack was to cut as much of that Irish

1063
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:27,159
accent girl as they possibly could. I could not figure

1064
00:52:27,159 --> 00:52:28,920
out why she was in the movie at all. I

1065
00:52:29,079 --> 00:52:31,559
just thought, did she have to You can take her

1066
00:52:31,639 --> 00:52:34,119
out and you have a much better movie without her.

1067
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,239
And she had dirty feet when they're in bed together

1068
00:52:37,679 --> 00:52:40,119
and she's laying down it's supposed to be the sexy scene,

1069
00:52:40,119 --> 00:52:43,079
and her feet are dirty. And then she's dancing on

1070
00:52:43,159 --> 00:52:44,760
the course in a nightgown in the middle of the

1071
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:48,159
night because she's not pregnant. This is the weirdest part

1072
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,639
of all of that. They were definitely on their cocaine

1073
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,000
high they decided to leave any of her bits in.

1074
00:52:53,119 --> 00:52:56,519
But anyway, Yes, please hit us up on Facebook at

1075
00:52:56,559 --> 00:53:01,679
Shirley Podcast, Twitter, attra Shirley Podcast, Shirly Podcast at gmail

1076
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,199
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1077
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:08,079
or if you feel like buying Jason or I a

1078
00:53:08,159 --> 00:53:11,639
cup of coffee, you could get executive producer status. Just

1079
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,960
go to our Patreon page Executive Producer. You could get

1080
00:53:15,519 --> 00:53:18,760
gifts that we are still giving out to people's depending

1081
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,000
on the donation level that they give. But we want

1082
00:53:21,039 --> 00:53:23,360
to say thank you to those of our dear friends

1083
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,880
and they have become dear friends. Our Patreon subscribers have

1084
00:53:26,039 --> 00:53:28,639
become our dear friends that we communicate with almost on

1085
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,079
a daily basis. So thank you very much to those guys.

1086
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,639
If you'd like to join our fun little family, hit

1087
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us up on Patreon as well.

1088
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,280
Speaker 3: Adam, thank you so much for joining us today. We

1089
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,159
had a blast hanging out with you. Tell us where

1090
00:53:39,199 --> 00:53:39,719
we can find you.

1091
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 5: Thanks for having me, guys, Happy to do it, Happy

1092
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,840
to be the deciding vote, I guess ultimately that was scary.

1093
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,400
For a while, I thought I could get lambasted and

1094
00:53:47,599 --> 00:53:48,599
thrown off the show forever.

1095
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:49,639
Speaker 4: But great.

1096
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 5: You can find word Fire. You can find us on

1097
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,000
the fan side of network. You can find us at

1098
00:53:54,079 --> 00:53:56,800
ford Fire Pod on Twitter and Instagram. Having a good

1099
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,719
time over there. New app drop every Thursday, ganks go

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you our podcast every Monday, Wednesday, Friday.

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00:54:01,679 --> 00:54:02,639
Speaker 4: If you want to hear my misery.

1102
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:06,079
Speaker 5: You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Adam Winrib.

1103
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,039
I guess I was early to Twitter and I just

1104
00:54:08,079 --> 00:54:10,039
got my name. I've never had numbers in a screen

1105
00:54:10,119 --> 00:54:12,400
name as long as I've lived, so hopefully we'll keep

1106
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:13,039
that streak going.

1107
00:54:13,079 --> 00:54:15,119
Speaker 4: But I would love to interact with you all. Please

1108
00:54:15,159 --> 00:54:16,079
come find me awesome.

1109
00:54:16,199 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining us, Adam. We really

1110
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:19,159
appreciate you being here.

1111
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:21,519
Speaker 4: Man, Total pleasure. This was a great battle.

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00:54:22,039 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 3: Okay, hey everybody, we're all gonna get late.