WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:02.439 Voted Bill Bigger. How will we do between eleven and 2 00:00:02.480 --> 00:00:05.919 midnight in the last hour? Garry Jeff Walker welcoming you 3 00:00:06.160 --> 00:00:09.359 to this nightcap from Monday, March tenth, twenty twenty five. 4 00:00:09.759 --> 00:00:12.919 Fantastic show. It's stacked and packed coming up in just 5 00:00:12.960 --> 00:00:15.480 a few minutes. Jesse Petrilla, who has a new book 6 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:18.519 called If It Takes One Thousand Years he has interviewed 7 00:00:18.839 --> 00:00:24.199 over the years. Gee, hottist terrorist, the real evil guys 8 00:00:24.320 --> 00:00:29.480 that are waging global jihad on our country and Israel 9 00:00:29.600 --> 00:00:32.439 and the rest of the world. Really that if they're 10 00:00:32.439 --> 00:00:36.600 not Islamist, they're coming after us and getting inside the minds, 11 00:00:36.600 --> 00:00:39.280 in the mindset of these people he has interviewed them. 12 00:00:39.359 --> 00:00:43.880 He knows. Dan was from the Good Gunbadguy dot com 13 00:00:43.880 --> 00:00:48.759 book series, Loaded Mike podcast and a discussion tonight with 14 00:00:48.840 --> 00:00:53.280 our Second Amendment advocate on guns for all occasions? What's 15 00:00:53.320 --> 00:00:58.039 the best gun for a dinner party? For example? Pastor 16 00:00:58.119 --> 00:01:04.040 Mark Bilts from l'a Ministries, Michael Levine, jud Dunning, and 17 00:01:04.400 --> 00:01:07.680 The wild Man. Before we're done, you see getting ready 18 00:01:07.680 --> 00:01:10.640 and Xavier getting ready for their conference basketball tournaments. You 19 00:01:10.680 --> 00:01:13.879 see probably not going anywhere. We'll talk about Red's Opening Day, 20 00:01:13.920 --> 00:01:17.319 which is getting closer and closer and closer, and the 21 00:01:17.599 --> 00:01:21.159 latest Bengals happenings during the off season. It's all on 22 00:01:21.239 --> 00:01:24.680 this night, Tap and all coming up. Jesse Patrilla up 23 00:01:24.760 --> 00:01:30.680 next to Patrilla and according to his own personal bio, 24 00:01:31.159 --> 00:01:36.239 three generations of Slavic steel workers from Stubenville, Ohio. I 25 00:01:36.319 --> 00:01:38.560 may have gotten that right, maybe not, he'll correct me. 26 00:01:38.640 --> 00:01:42.480 I'm certain if if I didn't. But Jesse, it's great 27 00:01:42.519 --> 00:01:45.920 to have having you on the show tonight. And the 28 00:01:46.040 --> 00:01:50.000 reason I've been excited about talking to you is because 29 00:01:50.159 --> 00:01:55.079 you have spent a great deal of time and we'll 30 00:01:55.120 --> 00:01:59.200 go into this interviewing and fact finding around the world, 31 00:01:59.280 --> 00:02:03.319 talking to terrorists themselves, getting inside the mind of the 32 00:02:03.480 --> 00:02:07.920 Jie hottist and the Islamist terrorist that you have talked 33 00:02:07.920 --> 00:02:11.800 to and interviewed. And I'm just fascinated by that and 34 00:02:11.840 --> 00:02:14.560 I want to hear some of the stories. So welcome 35 00:02:14.560 --> 00:02:16.560 to the show. Thank you very much. 36 00:02:16.639 --> 00:02:16.800 Yep. 37 00:02:16.840 --> 00:02:18.759 Three generations of steel mill workers. 38 00:02:18.840 --> 00:02:21.919 And my father was laid off and I was born 39 00:02:21.919 --> 00:02:25.520 in California, so skip this generation. Oh that's definitely deep 40 00:02:25.520 --> 00:02:26.560 Ohio roots. 41 00:02:26.919 --> 00:02:31.360 Well, we welcome you back into the fold as we 42 00:02:31.560 --> 00:02:36.280 like to say. So Jesse, first and foremost, when did 43 00:02:36.319 --> 00:02:39.680 you you transitioned from being in the army, or maybe 44 00:02:39.759 --> 00:02:42.439 were you in the army when these interviews began? Is 45 00:02:42.439 --> 00:02:45.919 that the gesusis okay? So tell me about that experience 46 00:02:46.080 --> 00:02:49.599 and how long you served and what led to this 47 00:02:50.360 --> 00:02:52.319 kind of intelligence work you were doing. 48 00:02:53.319 --> 00:02:56.639 So after September eleventh, like so many other Americans, I 49 00:02:56.639 --> 00:03:01.879 didn't really understand the mindset of who perpetrated nine to eleven, 50 00:03:02.039 --> 00:03:03.560 but I wanted to. I wanted to find out what 51 00:03:03.599 --> 00:03:06.800 would drive somebody to do such a thing to us, 52 00:03:07.000 --> 00:03:10.719 and I set off on my own jihad of learning 53 00:03:10.759 --> 00:03:14.639 what makes these people tick. So for about ten years 54 00:03:14.680 --> 00:03:18.319 I was writing the book, traveling to about a dozen countries, 55 00:03:19.319 --> 00:03:25.240 just researching the mindset of our enemies. So that included Jordan, Kosovo, Egypt, 56 00:03:25.599 --> 00:03:28.400 a whole number of other places in France as well, 57 00:03:28.560 --> 00:03:30.919 which in the Netherlands, which was very eye opening to 58 00:03:30.960 --> 00:03:33.639 see the problems that Europe was already facing at the 59 00:03:33.680 --> 00:03:37.080 time with immigration from some of the Islamic countries. 60 00:03:38.800 --> 00:03:41.159 But then it culminated in twenty. 61 00:03:40.879 --> 00:03:45.120 Twelve with the opportunity to take this deployment with the 62 00:03:45.240 --> 00:03:48.479 Army where I served as a liaison officer to the 63 00:03:48.520 --> 00:03:51.599 Afghan Secret Police, and it was really cool because the 64 00:03:51.639 --> 00:03:55.080 predecessor to the agency that I liaison to was actually 65 00:03:55.080 --> 00:03:58.319 the KGB. In fact, some of the older agents, the 66 00:03:58.360 --> 00:04:01.319 Afghan agents that I worked with, were former KGB agents, 67 00:04:01.360 --> 00:04:03.879 so that was pretty neat. I had a full access 68 00:04:03.960 --> 00:04:08.439 badge to the detention facility there in Afghanistan where I 69 00:04:08.479 --> 00:04:13.360 participated in facilitating the interrogations of over four hundred captured 70 00:04:13.400 --> 00:04:17.639 Taliban and ALCADA members, and I picked their brains, asked 71 00:04:17.639 --> 00:04:20.800 them how they thought, what they thought, how they worked, 72 00:04:21.439 --> 00:04:24.120 and they filled in all the holes. And I include 73 00:04:24.120 --> 00:04:26.480 a lot of stories in my book which was just 74 00:04:26.560 --> 00:04:30.120 released titled If it Takes a Thousand Years from Alcada 75 00:04:30.120 --> 00:04:32.000 to Hamas, How did you how to think? And how 76 00:04:32.000 --> 00:04:34.439 to defeat them? And those were actually words that were 77 00:04:34.480 --> 00:04:38.319 told to me about how long they intend to fight us. 78 00:04:38.519 --> 00:04:42.240 When one of the Taliban commanders that I spoke with 79 00:04:44.519 --> 00:04:47.040 was talking about how long they're going to fight, I said, hey, 80 00:04:47.160 --> 00:04:49.040 we got you caught. Why don't you stop fighting us? 81 00:04:49.040 --> 00:04:49.519 What are you doing? 82 00:04:49.560 --> 00:04:52.319 And he said, you have me in a cage, but 83 00:04:52.439 --> 00:04:55.759 my children will fight you and their children. If it 84 00:04:55.800 --> 00:04:59.600 takes a thousand years, we will win. And that just 85 00:04:59.600 --> 00:05:02.959 goes to so the different mindset that they that they have. 86 00:05:03.079 --> 00:05:06.879 They really have this long term and generational war mind. 87 00:05:06.920 --> 00:05:11.279 And Jihattis all think like this. It's it's not just 88 00:05:11.360 --> 00:05:16.160 a singular guy that you're you're talking to, but pretty 89 00:05:16.199 --> 00:05:19.319 much that's the mindset universally, is what you're saying. 90 00:05:19.399 --> 00:05:21.560 That was That was one of the scary things that 91 00:05:21.600 --> 00:05:25.720 I uncovered over in all my research is that all 92 00:05:25.720 --> 00:05:28.439 the different Jihatis groups really have two things in common. 93 00:05:28.519 --> 00:05:30.600 Number one is that they all think long term, like 94 00:05:30.639 --> 00:05:35.000 that they really fight generational wars. They have this thousand 95 00:05:35.120 --> 00:05:39.480 year mindset of of incrementally chipping away at the West. 96 00:05:40.000 --> 00:05:42.600 And it's very scary because we're like frog's being boiled 97 00:05:42.639 --> 00:05:44.360 in a pot. So when you have an enemy that 98 00:05:44.399 --> 00:05:49.879 doesn't doesn't care about time, you don't even sometimes oftentimes 99 00:05:49.879 --> 00:05:53.439 you don't realize you're under attack. And then secondly that 100 00:05:53.680 --> 00:05:58.079 they're all focused on this singular goal of establishing a 101 00:05:58.160 --> 00:06:02.759 global world government under Islamic Sharia law known as the Caliphate. 102 00:06:03.040 --> 00:06:03.560 And so. 103 00:06:05.160 --> 00:06:08.040 Where the differences come is how it's going to be implemented. 104 00:06:08.040 --> 00:06:11.279 Who's going to rule it that sort of thing, and 105 00:06:11.319 --> 00:06:14.279 so humans will be humans and they'll we will fight 106 00:06:14.399 --> 00:06:18.800 amongst each other over everything, and the Jihadas certainly will 107 00:06:18.839 --> 00:06:21.279 fight over who is going to rule the caliphate and 108 00:06:21.319 --> 00:06:22.240 how they're going to get there. 109 00:06:22.399 --> 00:06:25.000 I find a unique parallel with if it takes a 110 00:06:25.079 --> 00:06:31.639 thousand years regarding fighting and understanding Jihada's thinking and what's 111 00:06:31.720 --> 00:06:34.959 going on with the Trump economy right now, because China, 112 00:06:35.079 --> 00:06:39.360 as you know, has a one hundred year plan or whatever, 113 00:06:39.519 --> 00:06:42.439 and they are undeterred. They're just going to keep chugging 114 00:06:42.480 --> 00:06:46.519 toward that. Meanwhile, in the past, our US economy has 115 00:06:46.560 --> 00:06:50.199 been quarter by quarter and continuing resolutions with no real 116 00:06:50.639 --> 00:06:54.160 plans stretching out beyond the next fiscal year, you know 117 00:06:54.199 --> 00:06:56.680 what I mean. So it's kind of similar in that regard, 118 00:06:56.720 --> 00:06:58.839 don't you think? Absolutely? 119 00:06:58.879 --> 00:07:01.600 And that's where we need to change our thinking because 120 00:07:02.800 --> 00:07:06.040 a lot of adversarial nations, as you alluded to, it 121 00:07:06.079 --> 00:07:10.360 is not just the Jihadis, it's many adversaries think very 122 00:07:10.399 --> 00:07:14.759 long term. China, when they signed the deal with Great 123 00:07:14.759 --> 00:07:18.199 Britain for Hong Kong, it was a ninety nine year lease. 124 00:07:18.480 --> 00:07:21.199 So the people signing that knew that none of them 125 00:07:21.199 --> 00:07:23.519 would be alive by the time the lease came due. 126 00:07:24.120 --> 00:07:27.959 And we never do things like that. We in the 127 00:07:28.000 --> 00:07:32.560 West typically only think two maybe four years into the future, 128 00:07:32.600 --> 00:07:36.079 which is the re election cycle of our politicians, and 129 00:07:36.160 --> 00:07:39.160 so they're only looking at how quickly they could get something, 130 00:07:39.199 --> 00:07:43.240 whereas our enemies in the world are oftentimes thinking hundreds 131 00:07:43.319 --> 00:07:44.839 or thousands of years in the future. 132 00:07:45.439 --> 00:07:49.040 Did you find from your experienced were some of the 133 00:07:49.279 --> 00:07:57.120 enhanced quotation enhanced interrogation efforts counterproductive to finding out what 134 00:07:57.279 --> 00:07:57.800 was going on? 135 00:07:58.720 --> 00:08:01.160 So what I was saying, that's always what they trained 136 00:08:01.199 --> 00:08:04.959 us with. That's counterproductive. The the it was different. It 137 00:08:05.759 --> 00:08:08.959 was not like in the movies where you're pouring water 138 00:08:09.079 --> 00:08:13.439 somebody and saying, tell us what you know, we're we're 139 00:08:13.639 --> 00:08:15.519 we're drinking tea with them. In fact, the name of 140 00:08:15.519 --> 00:08:18.199 the first chapter is Tea with the Taliban, and see you're. 141 00:08:18.120 --> 00:08:19.639 Drinking tea, you're their friend. 142 00:08:19.879 --> 00:08:24.240 And and one thing about that that that was shocking 143 00:08:24.279 --> 00:08:27.399 to me in getting to know the Taliban and Altata 144 00:08:27.519 --> 00:08:32.679 leaders that my biggest surprise was just how genuinely warm 145 00:08:32.799 --> 00:08:37.080 they seemed. It's such a different level of evil where 146 00:08:37.120 --> 00:08:39.360 they they would smile at. 147 00:08:39.240 --> 00:08:42.039 You, hello, mister Jesse, how are you? 148 00:08:42.320 --> 00:08:46.039 They would just be all happy and and uh. And 149 00:08:46.080 --> 00:08:47.919 then you read that these people did some of the 150 00:08:47.960 --> 00:08:49.000 most sinister things. 151 00:08:49.159 --> 00:08:50.720 And it wasn't just what they did, it's some of 152 00:08:50.759 --> 00:08:51.399 the stuff. 153 00:08:51.159 --> 00:08:53.039 They would say, just so casually. 154 00:08:53.480 --> 00:08:58.440 There was one one guy, Taliban commander, who who When 155 00:08:58.440 --> 00:09:01.919 you're doing it one of these interrogations or interviews as 156 00:09:01.960 --> 00:09:05.159 we would call it in the politically correct word, you 157 00:09:05.200 --> 00:09:07.320 would get to know their family and that sort of thing, 158 00:09:07.320 --> 00:09:09.240 and I'd say, hey, tell me about your family. 159 00:09:09.320 --> 00:09:12.159 One guy he said, yeah, I have nine kids. 160 00:09:12.200 --> 00:09:14.559 I had ten, but my daughter dishonored the family. 161 00:09:14.639 --> 00:09:18.159 So I killed her, just very nonchalantly. 162 00:09:19.120 --> 00:09:21.440 Like it. So I told her to go out for 163 00:09:21.480 --> 00:09:25.039 ice cream. But that's the way it was the family. 164 00:09:25.159 --> 00:09:28.399 And the scary thing is that if he the way 165 00:09:28.480 --> 00:09:30.480 that I what I came to learn about the culture 166 00:09:31.200 --> 00:09:35.559 that that that individual was from is that if he 167 00:09:35.759 --> 00:09:38.960 had not killed his daughter, his friends and neighbors would 168 00:09:39.000 --> 00:09:39.879 be like, what's wrong with you? 169 00:09:39.919 --> 00:09:41.039 Why didn't you kill your daughters? 170 00:09:41.080 --> 00:09:44.279 She dishonored the family, and it's just the normal thing 171 00:09:44.320 --> 00:09:47.879 to do. And what's scary is that we see a 172 00:09:47.919 --> 00:09:52.600 lot of extremist export that sort of thing over here. 173 00:09:52.679 --> 00:09:54.759 There was the terrible case of Sarah. 174 00:09:54.440 --> 00:09:58.200 And I mean Asaiah down in Texas, if you recall 175 00:09:58.720 --> 00:10:00.720 a few decades back where that was the father of 176 00:10:00.799 --> 00:10:04.840 the taxi driver Yaser said, who murdered his daughters because 177 00:10:04.840 --> 00:10:08.320 they refused to wear an Islamic head governing. He found 178 00:10:08.320 --> 00:10:11.840 out they had non Muslim boyfriends, and so he murdered 179 00:10:11.879 --> 00:10:14.879 both of them. But what was creepier when they finally 180 00:10:14.879 --> 00:10:19.480 did catch him just because somebody recognized him, was they 181 00:10:19.559 --> 00:10:21.799 came to find out that several members of his community 182 00:10:21.840 --> 00:10:24.000 were helping him over the decade plus that he was 183 00:10:24.000 --> 00:10:26.919 on the run. They arrested and convicted his son, they 184 00:10:27.000 --> 00:10:31.399 arrested and convicted his brother, and this just goes to 185 00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:34.879 show that it's because those individuals thought that he did 186 00:10:34.919 --> 00:10:38.600 the right thing. And it's just such a different mindset 187 00:10:38.759 --> 00:10:41.519 that if you or I had had a cousin or 188 00:10:41.600 --> 00:10:44.879 brother or father that murdered one of our family members, 189 00:10:45.480 --> 00:10:48.240 we would not be harboring them, and we certainly wouldn't 190 00:10:48.240 --> 00:10:50.480 think that they did the right thing. But it's just 191 00:10:50.600 --> 00:10:54.240 such a such a different mindset that a lot of 192 00:10:54.279 --> 00:10:57.320 these these people come from. We have to remember that 193 00:10:57.399 --> 00:11:02.559 jihadis really largely come from from from tribal countries that 194 00:11:02.879 --> 00:11:06.320 just to have a very different way of life. Just 195 00:11:06.320 --> 00:11:09.919 an example of how different the Neuristani tribe. This is 196 00:11:09.960 --> 00:11:13.360 just one example in Afghanistan. In order to be as 197 00:11:13.399 --> 00:11:16.480 the equivalent of a city council member in one of 198 00:11:16.519 --> 00:11:21.120 those those villages, a village leader, you have three prerequisites. 199 00:11:21.440 --> 00:11:23.960 You have to be a good orator, you have to 200 00:11:24.399 --> 00:11:28.320 entertain the entire village ten times at a banquet, and 201 00:11:28.399 --> 00:11:31.799 you have to murder five rival tribe members. And so 202 00:11:32.600 --> 00:11:34.000 there in Cincinnati, I don't know, do you have to 203 00:11:34.080 --> 00:11:37.399 kill five people in Warren to be a to be. 204 00:11:37.360 --> 00:11:42.600 A council member. Usually the city council here waits until 205 00:11:42.600 --> 00:11:46.000 they get into office to try and kill people. It's 206 00:11:46.080 --> 00:11:48.399 not a prerequisite, It just kind of happens. 207 00:11:49.240 --> 00:11:51.320 But that's the thing is that that a lot of 208 00:11:51.360 --> 00:11:55.519 these people come from backwards countries like that, where they 209 00:11:55.519 --> 00:11:57.919 have these these cultures that are that are. 210 00:11:57.840 --> 00:12:01.279 It's not just different. I mean, that's that's a big fallacy. 211 00:12:01.360 --> 00:12:03.840 There's a lot of people who say, oh. 212 00:12:03.639 --> 00:12:05.240 It's just a different culture. 213 00:12:05.399 --> 00:12:09.480 They're just misunderstood, and they try to call it multiculturalism, 214 00:12:09.679 --> 00:12:13.519 or I call it cultural relativism, this false idea that 215 00:12:13.559 --> 00:12:15.799 all cultures are equal, and. 216 00:12:16.039 --> 00:12:18.720 Although all people are equal in the eyes of God, 217 00:12:18.879 --> 00:12:23.000 all cultures are certainly not our culture in the West, 218 00:12:23.519 --> 00:12:27.480 as far as superior to a backward culture that murders 219 00:12:27.480 --> 00:12:30.159 their daughter or requires you to murder five people in 220 00:12:30.200 --> 00:12:32.240 the town next door in order to be a city 221 00:12:32.240 --> 00:12:32.919 council member. 222 00:12:34.440 --> 00:12:39.279 Who is behind if there's any one group, I think 223 00:12:39.320 --> 00:12:42.639 there are several, But who was behind in your estimation? 224 00:12:43.399 --> 00:12:49.080 The renewed pro Hamas terrorist protests at college campuses and 225 00:12:49.159 --> 00:12:52.559 around the country where they occur. Is this all just 226 00:12:52.639 --> 00:12:55.799 people trying to sow chaos into our society? Is it 227 00:12:56.279 --> 00:13:01.440 a real fundamentalist Islamist belief on the college campuses because 228 00:13:01.440 --> 00:13:04.120 a lot of these people are not students. And the 229 00:13:04.200 --> 00:13:09.240 hatred towards Israel, let's specifically look at that dynamic too, Jesse, 230 00:13:10.799 --> 00:13:17.080 This Islamist jihadist hatred of the state of Israel and 231 00:13:17.159 --> 00:13:22.679 Jews in general. Go ahead, that's just it. 232 00:13:22.120 --> 00:13:26.120 It's really as mentioned before that one of the common 233 00:13:26.159 --> 00:13:28.759 threads among all the jihadist groups is that they think 234 00:13:28.799 --> 00:13:31.159 long term, and that includes focusing on the kids. They 235 00:13:31.200 --> 00:13:35.159 really focus on the next generation in fact, in Afghanistan, 236 00:13:35.200 --> 00:13:40.000 the Taliban Taliban is actually the Pasto language word for students. 237 00:13:40.639 --> 00:13:44.480 These are the students of the Islamic schools in that region. 238 00:13:45.000 --> 00:13:48.440 And so what they do is they don't really gain 239 00:13:48.519 --> 00:13:52.360 recruits from grown ups. They go to children. They really 240 00:13:52.360 --> 00:13:55.279 try to brainwash kids, and that includes our children. And 241 00:13:55.480 --> 00:13:59.440 the Jihadis have done a phenomenal job of exporting their 242 00:13:59.480 --> 00:14:02.519 ideology by trying to get to kids. And and it's 243 00:14:02.799 --> 00:14:07.240 very children on the college campuses are very impressionable at 244 00:14:07.240 --> 00:14:07.639 that age. 245 00:14:07.720 --> 00:14:09.039 Everyone's searching for purpose. 246 00:14:09.159 --> 00:14:12.679 And then when you have an Iranian funded UH of 247 00:14:13.200 --> 00:14:16.120 the activists land on the campus and walk through with 248 00:14:16.159 --> 00:14:19.000 a bullhorn saying free, free postime, Yeah, you'll have one 249 00:14:19.039 --> 00:14:22.279 hundred useful idiots that are looking for purpose, that are 250 00:14:22.320 --> 00:14:24.600 just very naive and ignorant on the on the subject 251 00:14:24.679 --> 00:14:28.039 that will march along behind them. And so it doesn't 252 00:14:28.080 --> 00:14:30.679 take much to rile up a bunch of kids and 253 00:14:30.720 --> 00:14:34.080 get them, get them involved. And and that's the scary 254 00:14:34.120 --> 00:14:34.799 thing is that it's. 255 00:14:34.679 --> 00:14:35.720 Really important ignorance. 256 00:14:35.759 --> 00:14:38.720 They have no no clue what that what they're doing about. 257 00:14:38.759 --> 00:14:42.759 The the respect for women that these people have or 258 00:14:42.840 --> 00:14:49.480 lack thereof. UH, the the atrocitees against gays, against. 259 00:14:49.080 --> 00:14:50.039 Other minority groups. 260 00:14:50.080 --> 00:14:56.159 These are these are not if the leftists understood or 261 00:14:56.159 --> 00:15:00.360 the liberals understood who they're allying with, I've and think 262 00:15:00.360 --> 00:15:02.559 that they would, they would be marching so easily along. 263 00:15:02.720 --> 00:15:06.360 Yeah, it's really ironic to see queers for Palestine, where 264 00:15:06.440 --> 00:15:10.399 if they were in one of these Islamist countries, they 265 00:15:10.960 --> 00:15:14.120 certainly wouldn't be able to be who they are and 266 00:15:14.679 --> 00:15:15.320 stay alive. 267 00:15:16.240 --> 00:15:19.600 Right, chickens for KFC, I say, I mean, it's really 268 00:15:20.159 --> 00:15:23.639 but it shows I mean, this is an ideological war. 269 00:15:24.080 --> 00:15:27.000 And if you're listening to this, you're probably already aware, 270 00:15:27.360 --> 00:15:30.840 but I would ask you ask yourself, are your children 271 00:15:31.240 --> 00:15:33.759 aware of the threat that we're facing and who our 272 00:15:33.799 --> 00:15:39.200 real enemies are? Because what's worse isolated terrorist attacks or 273 00:15:39.320 --> 00:15:43.720 a generation of pro jihadis zombies that our children are 274 00:15:43.759 --> 00:15:47.000 turned into that we've so often seen on college campuses. 275 00:15:47.519 --> 00:15:49.960 There was actually a survey that was done that was 276 00:15:50.000 --> 00:15:53.840 reported by NBC that showed that this is after the 277 00:15:53.879 --> 00:15:56.399 October seventh attack. Yeah, it showed one out of eight 278 00:15:56.519 --> 00:16:01.960 college students in America actually supported the Hamas attack and 279 00:16:02.000 --> 00:16:04.919 forty eight percent didn't even blame Hamas. So it just 280 00:16:04.919 --> 00:16:08.279 goes to show that we have completely failed to educate 281 00:16:08.440 --> 00:16:12.559 the post nine to eleven generation about the mindset of 282 00:16:12.600 --> 00:16:16.759 our enemies. So if you have kids, I would recommend 283 00:16:16.799 --> 00:16:19.960 I mean picking up Obviously I'm biased toward my own book. 284 00:16:20.200 --> 00:16:23.600 If it takes a thousand years available on Amazon, or 285 00:16:23.639 --> 00:16:25.679 there's other books that by it. There's an author if 286 00:16:25.720 --> 00:16:29.320 you want to get deeper into the ideological, ideological aspect 287 00:16:29.399 --> 00:16:31.919 of it. On the religious side, there's a great author 288 00:16:31.919 --> 00:16:34.919 by the name of Robert Spencer who has written extensively. 289 00:16:35.320 --> 00:16:37.519 He's got about thirty books on the secpect I don't 290 00:16:37.519 --> 00:16:38.919 claim to be a religious expert. 291 00:16:38.960 --> 00:16:41.919 I'm just saying what they say. This book is filled with. 292 00:16:41.919 --> 00:16:47.080 First hand accounts of interviews with the terrorists, of interviews 293 00:16:47.120 --> 00:16:51.480 with politicians in the rest of the world, interviews with 294 00:16:51.720 --> 00:16:56.200 everyday citizens about just what they're seeing, what makes them tick, 295 00:16:56.320 --> 00:17:00.000 and it's really just what they say. 296 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:04.440 Well, Jesse, from what we know about the recent arrest 297 00:17:04.519 --> 00:17:08.839 and the arraignment, I guess in Virginia today of Mohammed Shalifara, 298 00:17:09.000 --> 00:17:13.559 who was claimed that admitted that he was a coordinator 299 00:17:13.759 --> 00:17:17.440 of the Abbegate attacks in Afghanistan. That killed thirteen servicemen 300 00:17:17.480 --> 00:17:25.119 and hundreds of people Afghanis who were there. How close 301 00:17:25.160 --> 00:17:27.480 are we to finding out who the culprits were with 302 00:17:27.559 --> 00:17:28.000 this guy? 303 00:17:29.039 --> 00:17:31.200 Well, the reality is that the State Department put out 304 00:17:31.759 --> 00:17:35.720 rewards for justice through their Rewards for Justice program several 305 00:17:35.839 --> 00:17:40.519 years ago, the ten million dollar reward on information to 306 00:17:40.519 --> 00:17:44.920 the location of the leader of the masterminds behind the attack, 307 00:17:44.960 --> 00:17:48.440 and that was not his name. And so there are 308 00:17:48.880 --> 00:17:53.000 a number of people that are living in the open essentially, 309 00:17:53.039 --> 00:17:58.039 such is Rajinine Hakhani, who is who is one of 310 00:17:56.960 --> 00:18:03.119 the main masterminds and he's he's still he's living in 311 00:18:03.160 --> 00:18:07.119 the open in Afghanistan. You have there was another individual, 312 00:18:07.200 --> 00:18:12.400 Hasana Ula Gafari was his name, who was was actually 313 00:18:12.480 --> 00:18:15.559 the guy that was named with the ten million dollar reward, 314 00:18:15.680 --> 00:18:17.000 and he's still out there. 315 00:18:17.160 --> 00:18:18.319 So I don't know who this guy is. 316 00:18:18.359 --> 00:18:19.839 Frankly, I'd never heard of him before. 317 00:18:20.119 --> 00:18:23.640 But I I mean it's he's obviously, I mean, they're 318 00:18:23.680 --> 00:18:26.240 not gonna roll somebody up who's not involved with it. 319 00:18:26.960 --> 00:18:31.079 But I think it's there are for portraya still out 320 00:18:31.079 --> 00:18:33.000 there that we need to go after. I think the 321 00:18:33.039 --> 00:18:35.319 fact that we're rolling up anybody just goes to show 322 00:18:35.319 --> 00:18:37.759 that we're not gonna let it go all right, Jesse, 323 00:18:38.160 --> 00:18:40.440 but I think we can do far more. 324 00:18:40.400 --> 00:18:44.200 Jesse Petrilla the book if it takes a thousand years 325 00:18:45.119 --> 00:18:48.000 on Amazon, everywhere you buy books, and Jesse, thank you 326 00:18:48.079 --> 00:18:50.920 so much for the time tonight. This is fascinating. I 327 00:18:50.920 --> 00:18:53.039 could go on for an hour with this. It's great. 328 00:18:53.440 --> 00:18:54.160 Thanks for having me. 329 00:18:54.240 --> 00:18:58.279 I really appreciate it. You bet news now and then 330 00:18:58.400 --> 00:19:02.599 Dan was coming up up afterwards on seven hundred WLW, 331 00:19:04.039 --> 00:19:07.440 I first started talking to our next guest. Gosh, it's 332 00:19:07.480 --> 00:19:10.640 been it's been a good amount of time ago and 333 00:19:10.759 --> 00:19:13.599 has become a favorite of ours, a favorite of mine, 334 00:19:13.839 --> 00:19:17.880 and a guy I can always count on to let 335 00:19:17.920 --> 00:19:20.880 me have the lowdown where it comes to your Second 336 00:19:20.880 --> 00:19:25.559 Amendment rights guaranteed by the Constitution given to us by 337 00:19:25.599 --> 00:19:31.240 our creator, inalienable rights to bear and own firearms. His 338 00:19:31.319 --> 00:19:35.480 name is Dan Was. I first caught my eye with 339 00:19:35.640 --> 00:19:39.880 the good Gun, Bad Bad Guy book series, and there 340 00:19:39.880 --> 00:19:42.400 are a series of three books that has led to 341 00:19:42.440 --> 00:19:47.400 all kinds of things, including a podcast, the Loaded mic podcast, 342 00:19:47.440 --> 00:19:49.119 and the rest. I'll let him tell you what he's 343 00:19:49.119 --> 00:19:51.240 got going on, because there's too many irons in the 344 00:19:51.279 --> 00:19:53.400 fire for me to count to tell you the truth. 345 00:19:53.839 --> 00:19:56.799 But Dan was welcome back to the Nightcap. How are 346 00:19:56.839 --> 00:19:57.359 you my friend? 347 00:19:58.000 --> 00:19:59.880 Hey, thanks buddy, great, great to talk. 348 00:20:00.079 --> 00:20:01.880 It seems like we've known each other since. 349 00:20:01.640 --> 00:20:06.880 The nineties, I mean the eighteen nineties. Well we're that old, 350 00:20:06.920 --> 00:20:09.319 you know, we're not. We're no spring chickens, you and me. 351 00:20:09.440 --> 00:20:13.079 But the first while, first thing I wanted to bring 352 00:20:13.200 --> 00:20:16.400 up with you, and I sent you this. I am 353 00:20:16.440 --> 00:20:19.759 a subscriber to The Babylon b which is a fantastic 354 00:20:19.799 --> 00:20:25.200 political satire site. They don't, you know, they don't cut 355 00:20:25.240 --> 00:20:31.039 corners on laying down the let's say, drawing a gun 356 00:20:31.119 --> 00:20:34.599 on everybody when it comes to politics in this country. 357 00:20:34.799 --> 00:20:40.160 They are an equal opportunity offender. And this headline caught 358 00:20:40.200 --> 00:20:42.960 my eye and I immediately thought of you and thought 359 00:20:43.000 --> 00:20:45.480 we'd have some fun with this. The Babylon Bee guide 360 00:20:45.480 --> 00:20:49.240 to the best Gun for Every situation, And it lists 361 00:20:49.319 --> 00:20:53.039 like nine or ten different situations and what kind of 362 00:20:53.319 --> 00:20:57.599 firearm they recommend. So you're just general thoughts on these 363 00:20:57.960 --> 00:21:02.920 number one general home defense and m one garand especially 364 00:21:03.200 --> 00:21:07.039 well enjoy the sweet sounds of storming Omaha Beach right 365 00:21:07.079 --> 00:21:07.920 in your living. 366 00:21:07.680 --> 00:21:11.599 Room, You know the best one? 367 00:21:11.960 --> 00:21:13.920 You know, I have a few favorites in this list, 368 00:21:14.599 --> 00:21:16.279 and my favorite. 369 00:21:15.799 --> 00:21:18.119 One, I think is what you know when they talk 370 00:21:18.160 --> 00:21:21.039 about what's the best gun for this particular situation, and 371 00:21:21.079 --> 00:21:23.920 the situation is a fifth grade sleepover and they use 372 00:21:24.000 --> 00:21:28.039 the nerk Elite Titan c C S fifty, I thought. 373 00:21:27.880 --> 00:21:30.720 That was I know, what? 374 00:21:30.960 --> 00:21:33.839 What about what about deer hunting a bazooka? Do you 375 00:21:33.880 --> 00:21:37.079 have anything left of a deer? If you if you hunt. 376 00:21:36.920 --> 00:21:37.160 With a. 377 00:21:38.720 --> 00:21:39.720 Yeah, that's I guess. 378 00:21:39.759 --> 00:21:42.279 The one thing you'll say is the antlers. 379 00:21:44.119 --> 00:21:48.240 Depending on where you aim? Yeah? Yeah, Now can you 380 00:21:48.400 --> 00:21:48.839 how about this? 381 00:21:49.039 --> 00:21:50.119 How about this? The road? 382 00:21:50.519 --> 00:21:54.440 The road rage one is hysterical because they want you 383 00:21:54.480 --> 00:21:58.079 to use a glock nineteen. But here's the most important piece. 384 00:21:58.160 --> 00:22:00.880 You gotta hold it sideways gangster style. 385 00:22:01.000 --> 00:22:03.279 Well that's the way it came out of the box, Dan, 386 00:22:03.599 --> 00:22:10.200 of course, that's oh let's see. Uh. I love this too. 387 00:22:10.319 --> 00:22:13.720 Fending off a mob of commie Antifa soy boys, no 388 00:22:13.839 --> 00:22:16.240 gun needed, Just misgender. 389 00:22:15.599 --> 00:22:18.599 Them exactly or take away their latte. 390 00:22:19.559 --> 00:22:22.559 Now have you ever have you ever operated a nerf 391 00:22:22.599 --> 00:22:24.480 Elite Titan CS fifty? 392 00:22:25.319 --> 00:22:27.559 Well over in our studio at the loaded mic at 393 00:22:27.599 --> 00:22:31.720 the Watscourt Media Studios. We have, you know, it's funny, 394 00:22:31.759 --> 00:22:32.119 the NERF. 395 00:22:32.160 --> 00:22:34.440 I don't know the models of the nerves, but we 396 00:22:34.519 --> 00:22:37.359 have a NERF machine gun. 397 00:22:37.519 --> 00:22:38.440 It's hysterical. 398 00:22:38.519 --> 00:22:40.920 Sometimes we'll you know, we'll take a break or whatever, 399 00:22:41.000 --> 00:22:43.599 we'll shoot each other with it. We just have a blast. 400 00:22:43.720 --> 00:22:46.680 And if you got the little the little Nerf out 401 00:22:46.680 --> 00:22:50.599