Speaker 1: Voted Bill Bigger. How will we do between eleven and
Speaker 1: midnight in the last hour? Garry Jeff Walker welcoming you
Speaker 1: to this nightcap from Monday, March tenth, twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: Fantastic show. It's stacked and packed coming up in just
Speaker 1: a few minutes. Jesse Petrilla, who has a new book
Speaker 1: called If It Takes One Thousand Years he has interviewed
Speaker 1: over the years. Gee, hottist terrorist, the real evil guys
Speaker 1: that are waging global jihad on our country and Israel
Speaker 1: and the rest of the world. Really that if they're
Speaker 1: not Islamist, they're coming after us and getting inside the minds,
Speaker 1: in the mindset of these people he has interviewed them.
Speaker 1: He knows. Dan was from the Good Gunbadguy dot com
Speaker 1: book series, Loaded Mike podcast and a discussion tonight with
Speaker 1: our Second Amendment advocate on guns for all occasions? What's
Speaker 1: the best gun for a dinner party? For example? Pastor
Speaker 1: Mark Bilts from l'a Ministries, Michael Levine, jud Dunning, and
Speaker 1: The wild Man. Before we're done, you see getting ready
Speaker 1: and Xavier getting ready for their conference basketball tournaments. You
Speaker 1: see probably not going anywhere. We'll talk about Red's Opening Day,
Speaker 1: which is getting closer and closer and closer, and the
Speaker 1: latest Bengals happenings during the off season. It's all on
Speaker 1: this night, Tap and all coming up. Jesse Patrilla up
Speaker 1: next to Patrilla and according to his own personal bio,
Speaker 1: three generations of Slavic steel workers from Stubenville, Ohio. I
Speaker 1: may have gotten that right, maybe not, he'll correct me.
Speaker 1: I'm certain if if I didn't. But Jesse, it's great
Speaker 1: to have having you on the show tonight. And the
Speaker 1: reason I've been excited about talking to you is because
Speaker 1: you have spent a great deal of time and we'll
Speaker 1: go into this interviewing and fact finding around the world,
Speaker 1: talking to terrorists themselves, getting inside the mind of the
Speaker 1: Jie hottist and the Islamist terrorist that you have talked
Speaker 1: to and interviewed. And I'm just fascinated by that and
Speaker 1: I want to hear some of the stories. So welcome
Speaker 1: to the show. Thank you very much.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: Three generations of steel mill workers.
Speaker 3: And my father was laid off and I was born
Speaker 3: in California, so skip this generation. Oh that's definitely deep
Speaker 3: Ohio roots.
Speaker 1: Well, we welcome you back into the fold as we
Speaker 1: like to say. So Jesse, first and foremost, when did
Speaker 1: you you transitioned from being in the army, or maybe
Speaker 1: were you in the army when these interviews began? Is
Speaker 1: that the gesusis okay? So tell me about that experience
Speaker 1: and how long you served and what led to this
Speaker 1: kind of intelligence work you were doing.
Speaker 3: So after September eleventh, like so many other Americans, I
Speaker 3: didn't really understand the mindset of who perpetrated nine to eleven,
Speaker 3: but I wanted to. I wanted to find out what
Speaker 3: would drive somebody to do such a thing to us,
Speaker 3: and I set off on my own jihad of learning
Speaker 3: what makes these people tick. So for about ten years
Speaker 3: I was writing the book, traveling to about a dozen countries,
Speaker 3: just researching the mindset of our enemies. So that included Jordan, Kosovo, Egypt,
Speaker 3: a whole number of other places in France as well,
Speaker 3: which in the Netherlands, which was very eye opening to
Speaker 3: see the problems that Europe was already facing at the
Speaker 3: time with immigration from some of the Islamic countries.
Speaker 2: But then it culminated in twenty.
Speaker 3: Twelve with the opportunity to take this deployment with the
Speaker 3: Army where I served as a liaison officer to the
Speaker 3: Afghan Secret Police, and it was really cool because the
Speaker 3: predecessor to the agency that I liaison to was actually
Speaker 3: the KGB. In fact, some of the older agents, the
Speaker 3: Afghan agents that I worked with, were former KGB agents,
Speaker 3: so that was pretty neat. I had a full access
Speaker 3: badge to the detention facility there in Afghanistan where I
Speaker 3: participated in facilitating the interrogations of over four hundred captured
Speaker 3: Taliban and ALCADA members, and I picked their brains, asked
Speaker 3: them how they thought, what they thought, how they worked,
Speaker 3: and they filled in all the holes. And I include
Speaker 3: a lot of stories in my book which was just
Speaker 3: released titled If it Takes a Thousand Years from Alcada
Speaker 3: to Hamas, How did you how to think? And how
Speaker 3: to defeat them? And those were actually words that were
Speaker 3: told to me about how long they intend to fight us.
Speaker 3: When one of the Taliban commanders that I spoke with
Speaker 3: was talking about how long they're going to fight, I said, hey,
Speaker 3: we got you caught. Why don't you stop fighting us?
Speaker 1: What are you doing?
Speaker 3: And he said, you have me in a cage, but
Speaker 3: my children will fight you and their children. If it
Speaker 3: takes a thousand years, we will win. And that just
Speaker 3: goes to so the different mindset that they that they have.
Speaker 3: They really have this long term and generational war mind.
Speaker 1: And Jihattis all think like this. It's it's not just
Speaker 1: a singular guy that you're you're talking to, but pretty
Speaker 1: much that's the mindset universally, is what you're saying.
Speaker 3: That was That was one of the scary things that
Speaker 3: I uncovered over in all my research is that all
Speaker 3: the different Jihatis groups really have two things in common.
Speaker 3: Number one is that they all think long term, like
Speaker 3: that they really fight generational wars. They have this thousand
Speaker 3: year mindset of of incrementally chipping away at the West.
Speaker 3: And it's very scary because we're like frog's being boiled
Speaker 3: in a pot. So when you have an enemy that
Speaker 3: doesn't doesn't care about time, you don't even sometimes oftentimes
Speaker 3: you don't realize you're under attack. And then secondly that
Speaker 3: they're all focused on this singular goal of establishing a
Speaker 3: global world government under Islamic Sharia law known as the Caliphate.
Speaker 1: And so.
Speaker 3: Where the differences come is how it's going to be implemented.
Speaker 3: Who's going to rule it that sort of thing, and
Speaker 3: so humans will be humans and they'll we will fight
Speaker 3: amongst each other over everything, and the Jihadas certainly will
Speaker 3: fight over who is going to rule the caliphate and
Speaker 3: how they're going to get there.
Speaker 1: I find a unique parallel with if it takes a
Speaker 1: thousand years regarding fighting and understanding Jihada's thinking and what's
Speaker 1: going on with the Trump economy right now, because China,
Speaker 1: as you know, has a one hundred year plan or whatever,
Speaker 1: and they are undeterred. They're just going to keep chugging
Speaker 1: toward that. Meanwhile, in the past, our US economy has
Speaker 1: been quarter by quarter and continuing resolutions with no real
Speaker 1: plans stretching out beyond the next fiscal year, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So it's kind of similar in that regard,
Speaker 1: don't you think? Absolutely?
Speaker 3: And that's where we need to change our thinking because
Speaker 3: a lot of adversarial nations, as you alluded to, it
Speaker 3: is not just the Jihadis, it's many adversaries think very
Speaker 3: long term. China, when they signed the deal with Great
Speaker 3: Britain for Hong Kong, it was a ninety nine year lease.
Speaker 3: So the people signing that knew that none of them
Speaker 3: would be alive by the time the lease came due.
Speaker 3: And we never do things like that. We in the
Speaker 3: West typically only think two maybe four years into the future,
Speaker 3: which is the re election cycle of our politicians, and
Speaker 3: so they're only looking at how quickly they could get something,
Speaker 3: whereas our enemies in the world are oftentimes thinking hundreds
Speaker 3: or thousands of years in the future.
Speaker 1: Did you find from your experienced were some of the
Speaker 1: enhanced quotation enhanced interrogation efforts counterproductive to finding out what
Speaker 1: was going on?
Speaker 3: So what I was saying, that's always what they trained
Speaker 3: us with. That's counterproductive. The the it was different. It
Speaker 3: was not like in the movies where you're pouring water
Speaker 3: somebody and saying, tell us what you know, we're we're
Speaker 3: we're drinking tea with them. In fact, the name of
Speaker 3: the first chapter is Tea with the Taliban, and see you're.
Speaker 2: Drinking tea, you're their friend.
Speaker 3: And and one thing about that that that was shocking
Speaker 3: to me in getting to know the Taliban and Altata
Speaker 3: leaders that my biggest surprise was just how genuinely warm
Speaker 3: they seemed. It's such a different level of evil where
Speaker 3: they they would smile at.
Speaker 1: You, hello, mister Jesse, how are you?
Speaker 3: They would just be all happy and and uh. And
Speaker 3: then you read that these people did some of the
Speaker 3: most sinister things.
Speaker 2: And it wasn't just what they did, it's some of
Speaker 2: the stuff.
Speaker 1: They would say, just so casually.
Speaker 3: There was one one guy, Taliban commander, who who When
Speaker 3: you're doing it one of these interrogations or interviews as
Speaker 3: we would call it in the politically correct word, you
Speaker 3: would get to know their family and that sort of thing,
Speaker 3: and I'd say, hey, tell me about your family.
Speaker 2: One guy he said, yeah, I have nine kids.
Speaker 1: I had ten, but my daughter dishonored the family.
Speaker 2: So I killed her, just very nonchalantly.
Speaker 1: Like it. So I told her to go out for
Speaker 1: ice cream. But that's the way it was the family.
Speaker 3: And the scary thing is that if he the way
Speaker 3: that I what I came to learn about the culture
Speaker 3: that that that individual was from is that if he
Speaker 3: had not killed his daughter, his friends and neighbors would
Speaker 3: be like, what's wrong with you?
Speaker 2: Why didn't you kill your daughters?
Speaker 3: She dishonored the family, and it's just the normal thing
Speaker 3: to do. And what's scary is that we see a
Speaker 3: lot of extremist export that sort of thing over here.
Speaker 1: There was the terrible case of Sarah.
Speaker 3: And I mean Asaiah down in Texas, if you recall
Speaker 3: a few decades back where that was the father of
Speaker 3: the taxi driver Yaser said, who murdered his daughters because
Speaker 3: they refused to wear an Islamic head governing. He found
Speaker 3: out they had non Muslim boyfriends, and so he murdered
Speaker 3: both of them. But what was creepier when they finally
Speaker 3: did catch him just because somebody recognized him, was they
Speaker 3: came to find out that several members of his community
Speaker 3: were helping him over the decade plus that he was
Speaker 3: on the run. They arrested and convicted his son, they
Speaker 3: arrested and convicted his brother, and this just goes to
Speaker 3: show that it's because those individuals thought that he did
Speaker 3: the right thing. And it's just such a different mindset
Speaker 3: that if you or I had had a cousin or
Speaker 3: brother or father that murdered one of our family members,
Speaker 3: we would not be harboring them, and we certainly wouldn't
Speaker 3: think that they did the right thing. But it's just
Speaker 3: such a such a different mindset that a lot of
Speaker 3: these these people come from. We have to remember that
Speaker 3: jihadis really largely come from from from tribal countries that
Speaker 3: just to have a very different way of life. Just
Speaker 3: an example of how different the Neuristani tribe. This is
Speaker 3: just one example in Afghanistan. In order to be as
Speaker 3: the equivalent of a city council member in one of
Speaker 3: those those villages, a village leader, you have three prerequisites.
Speaker 3: You have to be a good orator, you have to
Speaker 3: entertain the entire village ten times at a banquet, and
Speaker 3: you have to murder five rival tribe members. And so
Speaker 3: there in Cincinnati, I don't know, do you have to
Speaker 3: kill five people in Warren to be a to be.
Speaker 1: A council member. Usually the city council here waits until
Speaker 1: they get into office to try and kill people. It's
Speaker 1: not a prerequisite, It just kind of happens.
Speaker 3: But that's the thing is that that a lot of
Speaker 3: these people come from backwards countries like that, where they
Speaker 3: have these these cultures that are that are.
Speaker 2: It's not just different. I mean, that's that's a big fallacy.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of people who say, oh.
Speaker 1: It's just a different culture.
Speaker 4: They're just misunderstood, and they try to call it multiculturalism,
Speaker 4: or I call it cultural relativism, this false idea that
Speaker 4: all cultures are equal, and.
Speaker 3: Although all people are equal in the eyes of God,
Speaker 3: all cultures are certainly not our culture in the West,
Speaker 3: as far as superior to a backward culture that murders
Speaker 3: their daughter or requires you to murder five people in
Speaker 3: the town next door in order to be a city
Speaker 3: council member.
Speaker 1: Who is behind if there's any one group, I think
Speaker 1: there are several, But who was behind in your estimation?
Speaker 1: The renewed pro Hamas terrorist protests at college campuses and
Speaker 1: around the country where they occur. Is this all just
Speaker 1: people trying to sow chaos into our society? Is it
Speaker 1: a real fundamentalist Islamist belief on the college campuses because
Speaker 1: a lot of these people are not students. And the
Speaker 1: hatred towards Israel, let's specifically look at that dynamic too, Jesse,
Speaker 1: This Islamist jihadist hatred of the state of Israel and
Speaker 1: Jews in general. Go ahead, that's just it.
Speaker 3: It's really as mentioned before that one of the common
Speaker 3: threads among all the jihadist groups is that they think
Speaker 3: long term, and that includes focusing on the kids. They
Speaker 3: really focus on the next generation in fact, in Afghanistan,
Speaker 3: the Taliban Taliban is actually the Pasto language word for students.
Speaker 3: These are the students of the Islamic schools in that region.
Speaker 3: And so what they do is they don't really gain
Speaker 3: recruits from grown ups. They go to children. They really
Speaker 3: try to brainwash kids, and that includes our children. And
Speaker 3: the Jihadis have done a phenomenal job of exporting their
Speaker 3: ideology by trying to get to kids. And and it's
Speaker 3: very children on the college campuses are very impressionable at
Speaker 3: that age.
Speaker 2: Everyone's searching for purpose.
Speaker 3: And then when you have an Iranian funded UH of
Speaker 3: the activists land on the campus and walk through with
Speaker 3: a bullhorn saying free, free postime, Yeah, you'll have one
Speaker 3: hundred useful idiots that are looking for purpose, that are
Speaker 3: just very naive and ignorant on the on the subject
Speaker 3: that will march along behind them. And so it doesn't
Speaker 3: take much to rile up a bunch of kids and
Speaker 3: get them, get them involved. And and that's the scary
Speaker 3: thing is that it's.
Speaker 1: Really important ignorance.
Speaker 3: They have no no clue what that what they're doing about.
Speaker 3: The the respect for women that these people have or
Speaker 3: lack thereof. UH, the the atrocitees against gays, against.
Speaker 2: Other minority groups.
Speaker 3: These are these are not if the leftists understood or
Speaker 3: the liberals understood who they're allying with, I've and think
Speaker 3: that they would, they would be marching so easily along.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really ironic to see queers for Palestine, where
Speaker 1: if they were in one of these Islamist countries, they
Speaker 1: certainly wouldn't be able to be who they are and
Speaker 1: stay alive.
Speaker 3: Right, chickens for KFC, I say, I mean, it's really
Speaker 3: but it shows I mean, this is an ideological war.
Speaker 3: And if you're listening to this, you're probably already aware,
Speaker 3: but I would ask you ask yourself, are your children
Speaker 3: aware of the threat that we're facing and who our
Speaker 3: real enemies are? Because what's worse isolated terrorist attacks or
Speaker 3: a generation of pro jihadis zombies that our children are
Speaker 3: turned into that we've so often seen on college campuses.
Speaker 3: There was actually a survey that was done that was
Speaker 3: reported by NBC that showed that this is after the
Speaker 3: October seventh attack. Yeah, it showed one out of eight
Speaker 3: college students in America actually supported the Hamas attack and
Speaker 3: forty eight percent didn't even blame Hamas. So it just
Speaker 3: goes to show that we have completely failed to educate
Speaker 3: the post nine to eleven generation about the mindset of
Speaker 3: our enemies. So if you have kids, I would recommend
Speaker 3: I mean picking up Obviously I'm biased toward my own book.
Speaker 3: If it takes a thousand years available on Amazon, or
Speaker 3: there's other books that by it. There's an author if
Speaker 3: you want to get deeper into the ideological, ideological aspect
Speaker 3: of it. On the religious side, there's a great author
Speaker 3: by the name of Robert Spencer who has written extensively.
Speaker 3: He's got about thirty books on the secpect I don't
Speaker 3: claim to be a religious expert.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying what they say. This book is filled with.
Speaker 3: First hand accounts of interviews with the terrorists, of interviews
Speaker 3: with politicians in the rest of the world, interviews with
Speaker 3: everyday citizens about just what they're seeing, what makes them tick,
Speaker 3: and it's really just what they say.
Speaker 1: Well, Jesse, from what we know about the recent arrest
Speaker 1: and the arraignment, I guess in Virginia today of Mohammed Shalifara,
Speaker 1: who was claimed that admitted that he was a coordinator
Speaker 1: of the Abbegate attacks in Afghanistan. That killed thirteen servicemen
Speaker 1: and hundreds of people Afghanis who were there. How close
Speaker 1: are we to finding out who the culprits were with
Speaker 1: this guy?
Speaker 3: Well, the reality is that the State Department put out
Speaker 3: rewards for justice through their Rewards for Justice program several
Speaker 3: years ago, the ten million dollar reward on information to
Speaker 3: the location of the leader of the masterminds behind the attack,
Speaker 3: and that was not his name. And so there are
Speaker 3: a number of people that are living in the open essentially,
Speaker 3: such is Rajinine Hakhani, who is who is one of
Speaker 3: the main masterminds and he's he's still he's living in
Speaker 3: the open in Afghanistan. You have there was another individual,
Speaker 3: Hasana Ula Gafari was his name, who was was actually
Speaker 3: the guy that was named with the ten million dollar reward,
Speaker 3: and he's still out there.
Speaker 2: So I don't know who this guy is.
Speaker 1: Frankly, I'd never heard of him before.
Speaker 3: But I I mean it's he's obviously, I mean, they're
Speaker 3: not gonna roll somebody up who's not involved with it.
Speaker 3: But I think it's there are for portraya still out
Speaker 3: there that we need to go after. I think the
Speaker 3: fact that we're rolling up anybody just goes to show
Speaker 3: that we're not gonna let it go all right, Jesse,
Speaker 3: but I think we can do far more.
Speaker 1: Jesse Petrilla the book if it takes a thousand years
Speaker 1: on Amazon, everywhere you buy books, and Jesse, thank you
Speaker 1: so much for the time tonight. This is fascinating. I
Speaker 1: could go on for an hour with this. It's great.
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. You bet news now and then
Speaker 1: Dan was coming up up afterwards on seven hundred WLW,
Speaker 1: I first started talking to our next guest. Gosh, it's
Speaker 1: been it's been a good amount of time ago and
Speaker 1: has become a favorite of ours, a favorite of mine,
Speaker 1: and a guy I can always count on to let
Speaker 1: me have the lowdown where it comes to your Second
Speaker 1: Amendment rights guaranteed by the Constitution given to us by
Speaker 1: our creator, inalienable rights to bear and own firearms. His
Speaker 1: name is Dan Was. I first caught my eye with
Speaker 1: the good Gun, Bad Bad Guy book series, and there
Speaker 1: are a series of three books that has led to
Speaker 1: all kinds of things, including a podcast, the Loaded mic podcast,
Speaker 1: and the rest. I'll let him tell you what he's
Speaker 1: got going on, because there's too many irons in the
Speaker 1: fire for me to count to tell you the truth.
Speaker 1: But Dan was welcome back to the Nightcap. How are
Speaker 1: you my friend?
Speaker 2: Hey, thanks buddy, great, great to talk.
Speaker 5: It seems like we've known each other since.
Speaker 2: The nineties, I mean the eighteen nineties. Well we're that old,
Speaker 2: you know, we're not. We're no spring chickens, you and me.
Speaker 1: But the first while, first thing I wanted to bring
Speaker 1: up with you, and I sent you this. I am
Speaker 1: a subscriber to The Babylon b which is a fantastic
Speaker 1: political satire site. They don't, you know, they don't cut
Speaker 1: corners on laying down the let's say, drawing a gun
Speaker 1: on everybody when it comes to politics in this country.
Speaker 1: They are an equal opportunity offender. And this headline caught
Speaker 1: my eye and I immediately thought of you and thought
Speaker 1: we'd have some fun with this. The Babylon Bee guide
Speaker 1: to the best Gun for Every situation, And it lists
Speaker 1: like nine or ten different situations and what kind of
Speaker 1: firearm they recommend. So you're just general thoughts on these
Speaker 1: number one general home defense and m one garand especially
Speaker 1: well enjoy the sweet sounds of storming Omaha Beach right
Speaker 1: in your living.
Speaker 2: Room, You know the best one?
Speaker 5: You know, I have a few favorites in this list,
Speaker 5: and my favorite.
Speaker 6: One, I think is what you know when they talk
Speaker 6: about what's the best gun for this particular situation, and
Speaker 6: the situation is a fifth grade sleepover and they use
Speaker 6: the nerk Elite Titan c C S fifty, I thought.
Speaker 2: That was I know, what?
Speaker 1: What about what about deer hunting a bazooka? Do you
Speaker 1: have anything left of a deer? If you if you hunt.
Speaker 5: With a.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's I guess.
Speaker 2: The one thing you'll say is the antlers.
Speaker 1: Depending on where you aim? Yeah? Yeah, Now can you
Speaker 1: how about this?
Speaker 2: How about this? The road?
Speaker 5: The road rage one is hysterical because they want you
Speaker 5: to use a glock nineteen. But here's the most important piece.
Speaker 5: You gotta hold it sideways gangster style.
Speaker 1: Well that's the way it came out of the box, Dan,
Speaker 1: of course, that's oh let's see. Uh. I love this too.
Speaker 1: Fending off a mob of commie Antifa soy boys, no
Speaker 1: gun needed, Just misgender.
Speaker 2: Them exactly or take away their latte.
Speaker 1: Now have you ever have you ever operated a nerf
Speaker 1: Elite Titan CS fifty?
Speaker 2: Well over in our studio at the loaded mic at
Speaker 2: the Watscourt Media Studios. We have, you know, it's funny,
Speaker 2: the NERF.
Speaker 5: I don't know the models of the nerves, but we
Speaker 5: have a NERF machine gun.
Speaker 2: It's hysterical.
Speaker 5: Sometimes we'll you know, we'll take a break or whatever,
Speaker 5: we'll shoot each other with it. We just have a blast.
Speaker 5: And if you got the little the little Nerf out
Speaker 5: of the like really long looking like bullets and it shoots,
Speaker 5: It shoots out of a drama, rotating dramas.
Speaker 2: They're just so much fun.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
Speaker 5: As a matter of fact, there were some moms who
Speaker 5: were trying to base these things from kids because they
Speaker 5: believed it led to mass shooters and stuff some nonsense
Speaker 5: like that.
Speaker 2: They wanted to ban NERF guns. I wrote an article
Speaker 2: about that a long time ago.
Speaker 1: We had toy guns when I was growing up. I
Speaker 1: never shot anybody, well, not any real person for sure.
Speaker 1: And this Babylon b list Dan and just a couple
Speaker 1: more of these, and we'll move on to something more substantive.
Speaker 1: Number nine, driving cattle through Yonder Pass before the Comanches arrived.
Speaker 1: A classic lever action rifle. Next to that is looking
Speaker 1: like a tool at the range, A tactical level action rifle.
Speaker 1: Since I don't know, you tell me the difference between
Speaker 1: a classic lever action rifle and a tactical lever action rifle.
Speaker 2: Dan, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5: Well, I you know, when they say tactical, I think
Speaker 5: a lot of people get really confused. But tactical, I
Speaker 5: think they're talking about something that's black and maybe a
Speaker 5: little scarier. Okay, that's fair, that's that's their definition, you know.
Speaker 1: And we get caught up. And you and I have
Speaker 1: talked about this a lot. The guns that they always
Speaker 1: try and single out as the number one cause of
Speaker 1: gun violence, even though people cause violence, not guns. But
Speaker 1: you know, the AR fifteen's the so called assault weapons.
Speaker 1: They always use that that semantic, that language to call
Speaker 1: them assault weapons when they're just rifles. I mean, they're
Speaker 1: not assault weapons. In a defensive situation, they'll probably save
Speaker 1: your life. But they continue to use that narrative that
Speaker 1: we've got to get rid of. We have an assault
Speaker 1: weapons ban. These things are are military weapons, not for
Speaker 1: domestic use by individuals. You clear that up one more
Speaker 1: time for the idiots who are listening who don't understand
Speaker 1: and that an AR fifteen is not the same thing
Speaker 1: as an M sixteen, or you know, the irony of it.
Speaker 5: All is that the well, the AR fifty has a
Speaker 5: relative it's a relatively small round.
Speaker 2: It it's not a it's not a big it's.
Speaker 5: Not a large round. But you gotta you gotta remember
Speaker 5: the way the marketing, the anti gun marketing works is
Speaker 5: they target the AR fifteen not because of its deadliness. Uh,
Speaker 5: because we've told them from the second Amoric community. We've
Speaker 5: told them countless times, you know, we've educated them on these,
Speaker 5: on these firearms and these and the whole ballistic part
Speaker 5: of everything.
Speaker 2: And they don't care about that.
Speaker 5: The reason they market the assault weapons the AR fifteen
Speaker 5: is not because of its lethality. It's because of its popularity.
Speaker 5: And it is the most popular rifle among American citizens.
Speaker 5: That's why they attack it, because they want to put
Speaker 5: the head off the snake, so to speak.
Speaker 1: Well, you know the thing that I've noticed, and I'll
Speaker 1: have to see the figures. Now that Donald Trump is
Speaker 1: in office as president and has a more constitution friendly
Speaker 1: kind of stance, I believe on American citizens' patriots being
Speaker 1: able to have weapons to defend themselves. It's really an
Speaker 1: odd economy. When President Obama first came out really pushing
Speaker 1: hard for gun bans, and you know this more enhanced
Speaker 1: background checks and everything that was happening during the Obama administration,
Speaker 1: gun sales actually dramatically increased, and they do seem to
Speaker 1: go up every time some politician, especially a president, starts
Speaker 1: to go after people's guns, gun sales skyrocket generally. And
Speaker 1: I wonder if maybe there'll be a little depression in
Speaker 1: the gun sales market knowing that you have a president
Speaker 1: in office who's not trying to get rid of your guns.
Speaker 1: Isn't that a weird psychological ploy.
Speaker 5: It is, it is, But it makes that's because, yeah,
Speaker 5: there might be a lull in sales because people feel
Speaker 5: safer now, They feel safe that we have an administration
Speaker 5: that's going to be protecting the Second Amendment.
Speaker 2: There's no need to run out and stock up.
Speaker 5: But during Obama and Biden and especially you know, right
Speaker 5: around twenty twenty, when all those left wing riots were
Speaker 5: happening across the country, that's when sales really skyrocketing. And
Speaker 5: that was a combination of well, it was primarily just fear,
Speaker 5: fear of being in those cities, and people who were
Speaker 5: never gun owners before were trying to get there. We're
Speaker 5: trying to get their license, their handgun permits in certain states,
Speaker 5: and they're wondering why they couldn't walk in and buy
Speaker 5: a gun and walk out the same day, because they've
Speaker 5: actually believed the lies that they were told. But they realized, oh, well,
Speaker 5: we voted for this stuff, and now we can't even
Speaker 5: get a gun ourselves. So it was kind of an
Speaker 5: eye opening thing for the lefties, but they did realize
Speaker 5: that guns are a good thing when it comes time
Speaker 5: to protect yourself and your family.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Dana was is our guest. We're going to take
Speaker 1: a quick break and come back for another segment. I
Speaker 1: want to talk to you about some efforts to convince
Speaker 1: people they need a concealed carry license in a state
Speaker 1: that doesn't require them. Sure, next on the Nightcap on
Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW, let's talk about Scott, the Loaded Mike
Speaker 1: podcast and all the rest. Dan I live in Kentucky,
Speaker 1: right across the river from Cincinnati, and in the Commonwealth
Speaker 1: of Kentucky. As of a few years ago, the legislature
Speaker 1: said you don't need to have a concealed carry permit
Speaker 1: if you're a law abiding citizen in the Commonwealth of Kentucky.
Speaker 1: There's no CCW in Kentucky that you have to go get.
Speaker 1: They used to have, you have to use You used
Speaker 1: to have to go get your license, your CCW, and
Speaker 1: there were more hoops to jump through. But as long
Speaker 1: as you're not a convicted felon or whatever and can
Speaker 1: pass just the standard background check, you can buy a gun.
Speaker 1: You can own again, you can carry a gun in
Speaker 1: the Commonwealth. And I think you and I both agree
Speaker 1: this is an excellent thing. Getting the government out of
Speaker 1: your guns. Now. Well it is.
Speaker 5: Our founding fathers never said, you know, the right to
Speaker 5: keep in bare arms shall not be infringed as long
Speaker 5: as you go through a background check and get a
Speaker 5: government issued privilege permit from people who don't.
Speaker 2: Want you to have a gun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. So here's here's the rub. The governor of Kentucky,
Speaker 1: Andy Basheer, who was turned out after this term, thank goodness,
Speaker 1: he became to me the boy dictator during COVID because
Speaker 1: just violating people's First Amendment rights all over the place,
Speaker 1: the right to travel, the right to travel, the right
Speaker 1: to attend church services, all these things that Governor Prasher
Speaker 1: did is many other power hungry author authoritarians did across
Speaker 1: the country. But he is on social media putting putting
Speaker 1: these messages out said, no, now's the perfect time to
Speaker 1: get your CCW Kentucky, and it's almost aimed at like
Speaker 1: younger audiences and stuff, like the people who are buying
Speaker 1: guns now do not maybe understand that they don't have
Speaker 1: to have a concealed carry permit to carry a gun
Speaker 1: in the Commonwealth. But insidiously he is trying to convince
Speaker 1: them that they should go get their c CW immediately
Speaker 1: because you want to be legal and you want to
Speaker 1: be safe, even though the law says you don't have
Speaker 1: to have one, and they're still trying to stand in
Speaker 1: the count even even though the legislature is spoken and
Speaker 1: the law is the law.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, Kentucky is a constitutional carry state, which means
Speaker 5: you do not have to have a government issued permission
Speaker 5: SLIPT to carry concealed a fire And now you got
Speaker 5: to ask yourself, well, why would he want everyone to
Speaker 5: do it even though it wasn't necessary. And the reason
Speaker 5: is because by by doing that, you're going through a process.
Speaker 5: Your name, your background check, your fingerprints, and everything is
Speaker 5: getting registered with the government. So he understands that in
Speaker 5: order to confiscate guns, you first need to know who
Speaker 5: the gun owners are.
Speaker 2: And where the gun's located.
Speaker 5: But he also understands that Kentucky is a constitutional carry
Speaker 5: state and people can basically tell him to hit the road.
Speaker 5: So he's got to convince as many people as possible
Speaker 5: to go through the process and get in the system
Speaker 5: so him and his ungrabbing you know, legislators and bureaucrats
Speaker 5: can track you at a later date.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not going to have many legislators on his
Speaker 1: side there. That's why there's no concealed carry in Kentucky anymore.
Speaker 1: Soya constitutional carry. But yeah, it's the bureaucrats and his minions.
Speaker 1: If he deemed it necessary to go get the guns.
Speaker 1: When they shouted the British are coming in the American Revolution,
Speaker 1: it wasn't just that they were coming, They were coming
Speaker 1: for their guns. And the founders knew that when they
Speaker 1: wrote the Bill of Rights anything else that you had
Speaker 1: a couple of things you wanted to talk about, real quick, Dan,
Speaker 1: go ahead.
Speaker 5: Well, I'm working on a lot right now about how
Speaker 5: the background check system fails people. And there's a lot
Speaker 5: of states where you do have to have a background
Speaker 5: check and a permit to carry a gun. New York, California, Illinois,
Speaker 5: you named the blue state, and you probably need a
Speaker 5: license to carry. But the background check system is a failure.
Speaker 5: And I just wrote some articles that I'd be an
Speaker 5: article for ammal Land that people could check out. But
Speaker 5: basically what happens is ninety nine percent of the denialsackground
Speaker 5: check denials are what we call false positives, in other words,
Speaker 5: good people being denied for no good reason. There's all
Speaker 5: sorts of reasons, the errors in the application, similar social
Speaker 5: Security number, all sorts of different reasons. But these are
Speaker 5: good people being denied for no real legal reason. It's
Speaker 5: just a failure, a failed system. And eighty percent of
Speaker 5: those people who get denied never appeal because they either
Speaker 5: can't make their way through the appeal process or they
Speaker 5: don't have money for a lawyer or whatever. So ultimately,
Speaker 5: the background check system is very successful at disarming good people. However,
Speaker 5: it does nothing to stop bad guys because bad guys
Speaker 5: just go around the system altogether, and they don't go
Speaker 5: to a gun shop to get their guns, and the
Speaker 5: background check does nothing for them. So the background system,
Speaker 5: background check system for firearms is a complete failure, and
Speaker 5: I try to help people understand understand that, and I
Speaker 5: think the whole background check system should be abolished. It's
Speaker 5: not a gun problem, it's a letting criminals out of
Speaker 5: jail problem that we have.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Dan was thank you so much, great stuff as always,
Speaker 1: and I'll keep on sending the good Babylon b stuff.
Speaker 2: It's great. I love it.
Speaker 1: Thanks Pal, all right, you got it man. Dan was
Speaker 1: with us on the nightcap. Pastor Mark Bilts from Elshaudi
Speaker 1: Ministries coming up in just a few on seven hundred
Speaker 1: WLW on seven hundred w LW. Rejoining us in this
Speaker 1: half hour is a friend who we have met through
Speaker 1: our conversations here and he's joining us again from Elshaudi
Speaker 1: Ministries in Washington State. He uses biblical texts and prophecies
Speaker 1: to predict what is going to happen next, and there
Speaker 1: was so much unsurety among a lot of people about
Speaker 1: what's going to happen next. If you want of those,
Speaker 1: he may be able to have some insight for you.
Speaker 1: He's been right before. I wanted to mention this right
Speaker 1: up the top that I talked to him right before
Speaker 1: Trump's inauguration and he said that there will be terrorist attacks,
Speaker 1: domestic terrorist attacks in our nation before the inauguration, before
Speaker 1: Donald Trump can be sworn into office, and lo and behold,
Speaker 1: two days later, we had New Orleans. We had on
Speaker 1: New Year's Eve, and the guy who was a Jiehattist
Speaker 1: Islamic terrorist, homegrown and you know, he was what's the
Speaker 1: word I was trying to say, he was radicalized online.
Speaker 1: He was a former military guy, and we all know
Speaker 1: the story. He drove through Bourbon Street in the French
Speaker 1: Quarter and just mote people down. It was terrible. But
Speaker 1: this guy, just days before predicted that something was about
Speaker 1: to happen like this, and his other prophecies have come
Speaker 1: very close to happening and are still on the verge
Speaker 1: of happening. He says, there was a whole lot more ahead.
Speaker 1: Pastor Mark Bilts, welcome back to the show.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much.
Speaker 7: It's always great being on your program.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good to have you here too. There has
Speaker 1: been all kinds of discussion, continues to be all kinds
Speaker 1: of discussion. As the Bible says, men will cry peace, peace,
Speaker 1: but there will be no peace. What are the prospects
Speaker 1: for a real, lasting ceasefire between Hamas and Israel. There's
Speaker 1: all kinds of talk about what happens next. And President
Speaker 1: Trump has suggested that the US help Israel rebuild Hamas
Speaker 1: after we get rebuild Gaza, after we get Hamas out,
Speaker 1: the terrorists out, and the people who are living in
Speaker 1: the rubble out. And there's all kinds of optimism seemingly
Speaker 1: every day about this coming to a final conclusion, ceasefire
Speaker 1: at all. But you say, not so fast, right, Pastor
Speaker 1: Bilts exactly.
Speaker 7: You know, this is an article that came out from
Speaker 7: Israel just this last week.
Speaker 2: It is totally mind blowing.
Speaker 7: The problem is our State Department think it's a land issue.
Speaker 2: It is not.
Speaker 7: Islam wants to kill the Jewish people.
Speaker 2: Think of it this way.
Speaker 7: Let's think you have someone who absolutely hates your guts
Speaker 7: and they want to murder you and your family, and they.
Speaker 2: Even tell you that broadcasted.
Speaker 7: How are you going to make peace with that without
Speaker 7: destroying them?
Speaker 2: Did you know Jared Kushner.
Speaker 7: Personally offered Yuah Sinwar ten billion dollars plus control of
Speaker 7: a moss in the Gaza strip and he refused.
Speaker 1: He literally, here, they're.
Speaker 7: Offering tax and who does a government think they are
Speaker 7: they can.
Speaker 2: Sell the promised land.
Speaker 7: But Jerry Krishner literally offered ten billion dollars to ya
Speaker 7: Ya Silhar.
Speaker 2: And he refused it.
Speaker 7: He refused it because it's not about the flipping money.
Speaker 7: And that's why you're not going to find peace. This
Speaker 7: coming Thursday night starts the Festival of Perham, which is
Speaker 7: about the Book of Esther and it's all about Hayman
Speaker 7: the Persian, the Iranian who wanted to wipe out all
Speaker 7: the Jews.
Speaker 2: That was his goal. This like killer Hitler put all of.
Speaker 7: His army toward wiping out Jews, then the Russian Front
Speaker 7: because his goal was wiping out the Jews. And until
Speaker 7: our government in the European Union realized this isn't a
Speaker 7: land issue.
Speaker 2: There never can be peace with someone who's determined to
Speaker 2: kill you.
Speaker 1: Well, you always hear a two state solution, and Israel
Speaker 1: has settled and puts settlements in Palestinian land and all
Speaker 1: the rest. You're right, it's always framed as a land
Speaker 1: issue when it's a thousands of years old push religious
Speaker 1: religious Islam, to push the Jews out of existence. And
Speaker 1: you're right, how do you make peace with people who
Speaker 1: want you dead?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't.
Speaker 7: And the whole thing has come down to Israel never
Speaker 7: wanted to own Gaza. But the problem is Egypt doesn't either.
Speaker 2: Nobody wants the people.
Speaker 7: You know, and the problem with you day in some Maria,
Speaker 7: some of their laws are still based on the Byzantine
Speaker 7: Empire from over one hundred years ago, as far as
Speaker 7: land possession and things like this. But the thing is
Speaker 7: now Trump is pushing for Israeli sovereignty over everywhere, which
Speaker 7: I think is the only way to solve the issue
Speaker 7: is let Israel have sovereignty over the whole faing. But
Speaker 7: then the Palestinians have to either move, which is what
Speaker 7: they're trying to do.
Speaker 1: Which which Trump has insisted that they must.
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, But the thing is it can't be it
Speaker 2: has to be as any sovereignty over the whole area.
Speaker 7: It can't be a two state solution because that will
Speaker 7: never bring peace whatsoever.
Speaker 2: But the problem is where are they going to go?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know, the reason that the so called
Speaker 1: Palestinians are in the Kaza strip in the first place
Speaker 1: is that these other Arab countries like Jordan and Egypt
Speaker 1: and the other in the area did not want these
Speaker 1: particular Arabs in there because they were radical Islamist. They
Speaker 1: knew this, They knew their proclivity for violence and hatred,
Speaker 1: They knew that they did not want to bring raining
Speaker 1: down on them the kind of response that they inspire
Speaker 1: and people who just want to live in peace, you know.
Speaker 1: But the thing is, the entire Palestinian culture is a
Speaker 1: refugee culture that before nineteen sixty five sixty four wasn't
Speaker 1: even in that area. And isn't that area of the
Speaker 1: Holy Land. Isn't that part of the original original Israel settlement,
Speaker 1: But as far as going back two thousand years.
Speaker 7: Absolutely in the Torah itself, the Gaza strip, it literally
Speaker 7: says belongs to the tribe of Judah. Isn't that fascinating?
Speaker 7: And who comes from the tribe of Judah? That is
Speaker 7: his personal land inheritance? And who did the nations think
Speaker 7: that they are trying to take his land from?
Speaker 2: What's amazing is the Philistines used to own it.
Speaker 7: They were The word Philistine comes from the Hebrew word
Speaker 7: which means invaders, so they actually the Palace Philistines were
Speaker 7: the invaders.
Speaker 2: But then of course God gave.
Speaker 7: That land all to Israel, right, and Israel just needs to,
Speaker 7: you know, say that hey, this is our land, and
Speaker 7: God is the one who determines all the orders for
Speaker 7: all the nations, not the United Nations. And then this Thursday,
Speaker 7: there is a total lunar eclipse over the entire United States,
Speaker 7: North America, South America, total ounar eclipse which speaks of
Speaker 7: war on Perham, which is the time when literally chose
Speaker 7: to commit genocide against the Israeli people.
Speaker 2: And then two weeks from then, this.
Speaker 7: Thursday night is a total solar eclipse which is on
Speaker 7: the first of Nissan, the very day the original three
Speaker 7: days of darkness began in the original plagues. And even
Speaker 7: in Israel, a newspaper came out with the Rabbis are
Speaker 7: expecting war to be breaking out. And because these are
Speaker 7: all happen in the West, not over the Middle East,
Speaker 7: they're even saying that just like the Jews and Persia,
Speaker 7: they didn't go back to Jerusalem. They're saying, so the
Speaker 7: Jews in America they need to head back to Israel
Speaker 7: or they're going to be in big trouble.
Speaker 1: Wow, let's get further into that in the next segment,
Speaker 1: and we'll talk about this your prediction of oncoming war
Speaker 1: and our involvement in it. In the Middle East and
Speaker 1: elsewhere maybe here at home, and you have predicted that
Speaker 1: as well. Mark Builts of El Shoudi Ministries, our guests
Speaker 1: in this half hour some spooky stuff, but stuff that
Speaker 1: you need to kind of keep an eye out for
Speaker 1: for sure. As we continue on the nightcap on seven
Speaker 1: hundred WLW the conversation with Pastor Mark Builts of El
Speaker 1: Shaudi Ministries, Washington State. Great to have you with us again, Mark,
Speaker 1: and again tell people how they can find out more
Speaker 1: about your predictions, your prophecies that are all biblically based
Speaker 1: and the like, and your ministry itself.
Speaker 2: Sure where Elshidai Ministries.
Speaker 7: Our website is an acronym of that EFM dot US
Speaker 7: for United States smt US. My latest book is America
Speaker 7: at War twenty twenty four through twenty twenty six. And
Speaker 7: I talk about how I Ran was going to attack
Speaker 7: Israel last April and they did.
Speaker 2: I talk about the terrorist attacks.
Speaker 7: On US soil and it's happened. And I'm telling you
Speaker 7: we're going to continue to.
Speaker 2: See war all this year. The United States is going
Speaker 2: to be involved in all.
Speaker 1: Right, and we're talking about troops and boots on the
Speaker 1: ground in foreign places. Or just domestically, what do you
Speaker 1: see for United States? Domestically? Do you see more terrorist
Speaker 1: attacks coming from within our borders? Mark?
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 7: I really believe that this year, and it could be
Speaker 7: coming very soon, we could see suicide bombings, just like
Speaker 7: they've been having in the Middle East. I think suicide
Speaker 7: bombings are coming here to the United States, and we
Speaker 7: could see terrorists blowing themselves up in grocery stores or
Speaker 7: gas stations. Can you imagine psychologically what that would do
Speaker 7: to the citizens here, even if it was only you know,
Speaker 7: localides a couple of places, people wouldn't know who was
Speaker 7: next to them in their grocery store, you know. And
Speaker 7: so I really see this happening because Iran as taken
Speaker 7: back on its hills, and I believe there are many
Speaker 7: terrors here in the United States just waiting for the
Speaker 7: trigger to start blowing themselves up here.
Speaker 2: So we'll have civil war here.
Speaker 7: I believe we're going to have civil war here between
Speaker 7: what Trump is doing with the illegal immigrants, kicking.
Speaker 2: Them all out. I think we're gonna get pushed back
Speaker 2: from that.
Speaker 7: We'll get pushed back from the right and the left
Speaker 7: as far as civil you know, politically and then we're
Speaker 7: also going to push back religiously with the Israeli war
Speaker 7: going on.
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of reasons to see civil uprisings
Speaker 2: this year.
Speaker 1: What tells you that, what gives you a for this,
Speaker 1: besides being an observer biblically in scripture, what tells you
Speaker 1: that troubled times are ahead?
Speaker 7: It's called math and science and the Bible. Because in
Speaker 7: Genesis one fourteen, when God created the sun and the
Speaker 7: moon and the stars, the number one reason he said
Speaker 7: was for signs and to determine the biblical calendar. Okay,
Speaker 7: but the only signs that Sun the moon make are eclipses.
Speaker 7: And the nice thing is no false prophet can manipulate it.
Speaker 2: And they speak to every language.
Speaker 7: And when you find eclipses falling on the biblical holidays,
Speaker 7: that is when God is trying to get our attention over.
Speaker 7: NASA has over ten thousand eclipses over the last five
Speaker 7: thousand years, and the average is only one total lunar
Speaker 7: eclipse every year and a half. But when all of
Speaker 7: a sudden, you have four total lunar eclipses in the
Speaker 7: year and a half, and they fall on the whole holidays,
Speaker 7: the biblical holidays, and huge events happen in Israel. You know,
Speaker 7: God's trying to communicate, that's what happened in forty eight,
Speaker 7: That's what.
Speaker 2: Happened in sixty seven and seventy three.
Speaker 7: And then we see also the war that just took
Speaker 7: place October seventh.
Speaker 2: All had to do with the biblical calendar.
Speaker 7: And I see solar lunar eclipses coming over the next
Speaker 7: two years, falling on the biblical holidays.
Speaker 1: Well, you mentioned per mentioned, Yeah, you mentioned the per
Speaker 1: M holiday that's coming up on Thursday, and there will
Speaker 1: be a full lunar eclipse on Thursdays, haven't you.
Speaker 7: You're telling me exactly over the Americas, and the luar
Speaker 7: eclipse speaks of war.
Speaker 2: And this is why I believe war is coming, because
Speaker 2: two weeks later, there's also a solar.
Speaker 7: Eclipse on Nissan one, which is when the plagues of
Speaker 7: darkness began. And so I really see war coming big time.
Speaker 7: And these are warnings. Now, I'm not saying anything's going
Speaker 7: to happen on that day. Just like with the train signal,
Speaker 7: just because the lights are flashing doesn't mean the train
Speaker 7: is there. It means the train is on its way.
Speaker 7: So I don't see eclipses as things happening necessarily on
Speaker 7: those very days of the eclipse, but they're lack a
Speaker 7: warning bridges out or war is coming, and so we
Speaker 7: need to be ready because I think it'll be unprecedented
Speaker 7: this year. And the reason why is because June second,
Speaker 7: the United Nations is having a huge meeting to finalize
Speaker 7: the two state solution you're talking about in New York.
Speaker 2: Well, it so happens.
Speaker 7: June second is also on the biblical calendar, the very
Speaker 7: day Moses ascended Mount Sinai and received the land.
Speaker 2: Grants for the land of Israel.
Speaker 7: So it's fascinating when you see a coordination, kind of
Speaker 7: like a chiropractor get in alignment. I align the biblical
Speaker 7: calendar with turning events.
Speaker 2: And then you know God is involved in what's happening.
Speaker 1: So in the biblical calendar, what happens at the un
Speaker 1: regarding Israel will happen on the same day that Moses
Speaker 1: went up to Mount Sinai and got permission from God
Speaker 1: that this is this is your holy land, this is
Speaker 1: this is a place I.
Speaker 2: Choose to record.
Speaker 5: It's the anniversary, it's the very anniversary.
Speaker 7: And so this is why God is going to decide
Speaker 7: which nations are going to decide with dividing the land
Speaker 7: of Israel and which ones are going to be against
Speaker 7: dividing the land of Israel. Because in the prophet Zechariah one.
Speaker 2: It's all about terrorism.
Speaker 7: Zechariah one, the end of the chapter is all about terrorism,
Speaker 7: and God says He's going to bring terrorism to every nation.
Speaker 2: Or entity that is trying to divide the land of Israel.
Speaker 2: That's what it says. Most people don't realize it, and.
Speaker 7: So the UN, the EU, all of these participants are
Speaker 7: going to face terror this next year.
Speaker 2: According to Zechariah one, Well.
Speaker 1: It's probably portends well for the United States that we
Speaker 1: are in favor of Israel in this.
Speaker 7: Yes, it's in our favor as long as that's where
Speaker 7: we stay.
Speaker 2: As long as that's where we stay. Because the quartet
Speaker 2: that started.
Speaker 7: In two thousand and two, I believe is that entity
Speaker 7: in Zachariah won it says there were these four horns
Speaker 7: that one to scattered Jerusalem and divide Israel. And I
Speaker 7: believe that's the quartet, the EU, the UN, Russia, and
Speaker 7: the US. And as long as the US, who's wanted
Speaker 7: and initiated a two state solutions backs out, we're going
Speaker 7: to be safe.
Speaker 2: But for some reason the US or Trump decides he
Speaker 2: wants to.
Speaker 7: Be the one who brings peace to the Middle East,
Speaker 7: decides to divide the land, then we're in trouble.
Speaker 2: So we just have to hope he doesn't do that.
Speaker 1: Well, you talk about civil war in this country, and
Speaker 1: we know how bloody and awful that can be. And
Speaker 1: you talk about an involvement in the Middle East and
Speaker 1: the wars there. The book is What America at War
Speaker 1: or the US American War War twenty four to twenty
Speaker 1: twenty six. So this is a very very finite window
Speaker 1: of time that you are predicting. Yet we are going
Speaker 1: to be involved militarily absolutely, what I mean, what what
Speaker 1: do you what do you think is going to come
Speaker 1: of this civil war if it occurs?
Speaker 8: Mark, Well, as you already know, Trump is sending troops
Speaker 8: on the borders or borders, and with all the tariff
Speaker 8: things going on, you.
Speaker 7: See a lot of people losing their jobs in the
Speaker 7: federal bureaucracy, many of them because they weren't doing anything anyway.
Speaker 2: Some of them may be wrong.
Speaker 7: But you're going to see complete economic turmoil here in
Speaker 7: the United States, and even Trump said, we may experience
Speaker 7: some pain over this next year, especially as they're exposing
Speaker 7: all the fraud everywhere. But you're the deep state is
Speaker 7: being turned up on its head, especially with Pam Bondi
Speaker 7: and all the things you'll be revealing. But you're going
Speaker 7: to see people upset, like with Zelenski and Ukraine. I
Speaker 7: believe there's a good chance China could attack Taiwan this year,
Speaker 7: North Korea, South Korea, and again you've already got the
Speaker 7: Ukraine Russia problem. But if there's a war in the
Speaker 7: Middle East as well, what is the United States going
Speaker 7: to be able to do if there's a forefront.
Speaker 1: War right and our hands are tied domestically at home.
Speaker 1: I have exact I have wondered a long time about
Speaker 1: sending the military to our southern border to face off
Speaker 1: and defend against the cartels who are some of the
Speaker 1: most bloodthirsty criminal gangs ever exactly we're ever on the
Speaker 1: face of the earth. But I think it's necessary for
Speaker 1: America's protection, So I you know, yes, it's one of
Speaker 1: those things that has to happen. And again you'll be
Speaker 1: watching the signs and giving us details all along.
Speaker 7: I hope, oh yeah, for sure, and I just appreciate
Speaker 7: you and your program and getting the warning out.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like a forecaster with a hurricane coming.
Speaker 7: I'm just wanting to warn everyone that we have a
Speaker 7: hurricane like we've never seen coming this year.
Speaker 1: All right, Mark biltz Elshradi Ministries, EESM dot us the
Speaker 1: book America at War twenty twenty four to twenty twenty
Speaker 1: six dire predictions all based on math, science and the
Speaker 1: Bible on the nightcap. Thank you. Mark seven hundred seven
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Speaker 1: to join us to talk about the changing media lance landscape,
Speaker 1: especially in light of the Trump presidency and what has
Speaker 1: happened to these legacy giants that used to dominate not
Speaker 1: just in airports, but used to dominate ratings and generate
Speaker 1: a lot of revenue for their parent companies and that
Speaker 1: simply has not been the case, especially since November fifth
Speaker 1: of last year. To talk about that in a much
Speaker 1: more Michael Levine, how are you.
Speaker 9: I am well, sir, and I want to take a
Speaker 9: moment to thank you for sharing your very valuable audience
Speaker 9: with mate, it's an interesting topic. Perhaps it shows some
Speaker 9: cultural and societal trends, but thank you for sharing your
Speaker 9: audience with me.
Speaker 2: Friend.
Speaker 1: Is one of the reasons, Michael Levine, that Fox News
Speaker 1: Channel has had such such a surge in their audience
Speaker 1: even before the election. It's been a couple of years
Speaker 1: that you've you've seen FNC come up through the ranks
Speaker 1: and be number one, like Gottfeld at Night and the
Speaker 1: other all their other little platforms that they're featured on
Speaker 1: the regular news channel. A part of that was that
Speaker 1: the other networks were all preaching the same gospel and
Speaker 1: the same tired old message of defend the establishment and
Speaker 1: defend Joe Biden and defend the left. They were basically
Speaker 1: arms of the Democrat Party. And when all of them are,
Speaker 1: you know, pushing a certain message and sometimes not so well,
Speaker 1: you can understand how a n upstart that is preaching
Speaker 1: more fairness and they say fair and balanced. I don't
Speaker 1: know how much that goes. But the reason Fox News
Speaker 1: Channel has succeeded so well as these other outlets were
Speaker 1: all the same, it seemingly.
Speaker 9: I think you're onto something. You know, there's an old
Speaker 9: saying they ain't buy in what you're selling. Yeah, they
Speaker 9: ain't buy in what you're selling. So let's check, if
Speaker 9: we may, the scoreboard. Okay, the scoreboard in sports is
Speaker 9: an interesting place to review. At the end of the game.
Speaker 9: We have a winner, we have a loser, or we
Speaker 9: have a tied game. So let's check the scoreboard, shall we?
Speaker 9: Since the election, all right, all right, here we go.
Speaker 2: Here we go.
Speaker 9: Number one c n N down forty six percent.
Speaker 2: Oh lord, maybe didn't hear me.
Speaker 9: CNN down forty six percent. Now that is also a
Speaker 9: staggering number from an existing loan number. CNN was doing
Speaker 9: very poorly before the election. Since the election, they've lost
Speaker 9: almost half their audience from a very low number. Number
Speaker 9: two ms NBC down fifty four four percent from an
Speaker 9: even lower number, MSNBC down fifty four percent. Now, you
Speaker 9: don't need to be Freud or Einstein to figure out
Speaker 9: that if you start with a low number like CNN
Speaker 9: and MSNBC and you lose forty six percent or fifty
Speaker 9: four percent.
Speaker 2: Your audience, Darling, that's not good.
Speaker 9: Now, let's move over, if we can, to some alternative locations.
Speaker 9: Fox News Channel up ten percent from a number that
Speaker 9: was very good from a hot, very high number, right
Speaker 9: from a number that was about four times greater than CNN. Okay,
Speaker 9: now they're up about ten percent. News Max, news Max
Speaker 9: up fifteen percent from a relatively low number, but fifteen
Speaker 9: percent increase. Now, we then turned to another location called
Speaker 9: alternative voices. Okay, and we'll call title these the Big
Speaker 9: four alternative voices, the Big Four. Now, there are many, many, many,
Speaker 9: many many many many many many alternative voices, but we're
Speaker 9: gonna look at the big four, Okay. Joe Rogan, Meghan Kelly,
Speaker 9: Tucker Carlson, Bill O'Reilly. All of these people former some
Speaker 9: three of them more former Fox News anchors, All of
Speaker 9: them have independent alternative voice. In other words, YouTube channels, websites,
Speaker 9: so forth, digital presence, massive increases for mister Rogan, Miss Kelly,
Speaker 9: mister Carlson, and mister O'Reilly.
Speaker 1: And they're doing it in they're doing it in the
Speaker 1: and and at least Tucker is definitely doing it in
Speaker 1: what was considered to be kind of like a fringe
Speaker 1: area online and on excess a non.
Speaker 9: But just to give you a sense, Megan Kelly, or
Speaker 9: Tucker Carlson Ay or certainly Joe Rogan, he would be the.
Speaker 2: Largest Voice have more viewers.
Speaker 9: Of their show in a day than CNN has a month.
Speaker 1: Wow, okay, all.
Speaker 9: True about Megan, Kelly Tucker, Carlson, Bill.
Speaker 1: O'Reilly, Joe Rogan.
Speaker 9: So again, any fair minded person, liberal, conservative, day, straight, black, white, young, old,
Speaker 9: doesn't matter, can look at this. You don't have to
Speaker 9: be that bright, and you can see that there is
Speaker 9: a massive shift the main stream media. And I'm not
Speaker 9: only speaking about CNN and MSNBC. Let's go through some
Speaker 9: other nights.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say, let's talk about the Legs.
Speaker 9: Washington Post, La Times, uh.
Speaker 10: ABC News, CBS News, NBC News, NPR, National Public Radio.
Speaker 2: Ever hear of any of these.
Speaker 9: Well down, down, down down, not down massively down right.
Speaker 9: So if you take.
Speaker 11: ABC newsc ABC News, CBS News, CNN, MSNBC, NPR, Washington Posed.
Speaker 9: Los Angeles Times, all of these have this in common.
Speaker 9: They have suffered from a radical media bias. Now, there's
Speaker 9: nothing wrong with having a media bias. If you announce it,
Speaker 9: you say, listen, we are aligned with Republicans and we're
Speaker 9: going to serve that menu. Fine, but what they failed
Speaker 9: to do miserably is to acknowledge their bias. So they
Speaker 9: would pretend to be journalists, honest, fair brokers and then
Speaker 9: be so massively biased as to be ludicrous, right, And
Speaker 9: the American people have said, essentially, go to hell. We're
Speaker 9: not interested in you anymore. We don't believe in you.
Speaker 9: We think you're lying, we think you're biased. We think
Speaker 9: you hate hate.
Speaker 11: ABC NEWSSCBS News, NBC News.
Speaker 9: We think you hate half of America. Not dislike, not
Speaker 9: hold suspicious, you hate half of America.
Speaker 1: Michael can I can I can? I can I stop
Speaker 1: you and ask you a question real quick? This this
Speaker 1: thing talking to Michael Levine, media expert on the Nightcap
Speaker 1: about the changing media landscape and people there are plenty
Speaker 1: of people were canaries in the coal mine calling out
Speaker 1: this obvious bias for years. I remember when Bernard Goldberg's
Speaker 1: book Bias came out and I had to get it,
Speaker 1: and he got fired for writing that book just because
Speaker 1: they knew that he was going to expose what they
Speaker 1: were doing. But by mister has proved pre Yes. The
Speaker 1: challenge here that people is that people have not really
Speaker 1: realized that until the advent of social media, when all
Speaker 1: these alternate voices you were talking about were finally widely
Speaker 1: distributed online and they were given and a millions of
Speaker 1: people had had access because before people like Bernard Goldberger,
Speaker 1: even people like me or you might point out the
Speaker 1: obvious bias that was tilted towards the left and the
Speaker 1: Democrat Party, but people said, oh, you're crazy, that's the news.
Speaker 1: And there were so many people in this country who
Speaker 1: heretofore were you know, they were, as Russe Limboy used
Speaker 1: to say, just looking at the drive by media and
Speaker 1: they weren't going deeper into it to find out. Oh,
Speaker 1: half this story was omitted on purpose by these alleged
Speaker 1: objective journalists.
Speaker 9: They weren't absolutely right when they were. When America was
Speaker 9: given a choice, they voted, They voted with their remote control,
Speaker 9: they voted with their laptop.
Speaker 2: They voted, and they said.
Speaker 12: We called the oh whoa, we call BS. Let's make
Speaker 12: it a little more family friendly.
Speaker 9: BS on your fetish and it appeared to be a
Speaker 9: fetish of Anything the Democrats did was glorious. Anything the
Speaker 9: Republicans did was hitlerresque. Now the American public said, okay,
Speaker 9: if that's what you want to serve.
Speaker 1: We're not buying.
Speaker 2: And they off.
Speaker 9: They went to Megan Kelly and to Joe Rogan and
Speaker 9: to Tucker Carlson, to Bill O'Reilly and to Fox News
Speaker 9: and to Newsmax, so much so that the mainstream media
Speaker 9: today is dead. It's irrelevant. You can say that The
Speaker 9: New York Times still has relevance. It still does in
Speaker 9: certain areas, but even there people know that The New
Speaker 9: York Times biased. It is just biased. And uh So, anyway,
Speaker 9: there we are. That's the that's the condition, and that's
Speaker 9: why I think we have that condition. And instead of
Speaker 9: changing all that.
Speaker 1: You know, if you lose a if.
Speaker 9: You're a sports team and you've lost terribly, usually what
Speaker 9: you do is you change the coach, right, you change
Speaker 9: the operation, change the players.
Speaker 2: These people who are.
Speaker 9: Losing so horrifically, they're they're making changes, but the changes
Speaker 9: are not substantive. They fired what I think to be
Speaker 9: the most racist broadcaster in the history of television, read Joy.
Speaker 9: Read was the single most racist broadcaster in the history
Speaker 9: of television, the history I think of that in the history.
Speaker 2: Uh and they.
Speaker 9: Fired her right now. They should have fired her years ago.
Speaker 9: They should have never given her an opportunity, they should
Speaker 9: have never put her on air.
Speaker 2: But they should have fired years ago.
Speaker 9: But they have not made the significant admission the mistake,
Speaker 9: recognition of the mistake. So we'll see how it all
Speaker 9: plays up.
Speaker 2: When there's something in life.
Speaker 9: By the way, there's something in life called too little,
Speaker 9: too late. Right, you know this from your own life.
Speaker 1: So that ship has passed, is what you're saying.
Speaker 9: Yeah, too little, too late.
Speaker 1: They can't do right.
Speaker 9: You know the la Times in the Washington Post are
Speaker 9: now pretending, Oh no, no, no, no, we get it. That's
Speaker 9: that's cool, we get it, darling.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 9: Too little too late, all.
Speaker 1: Right, a little too late with a couple of minutes left.
Speaker 1: Tell me about this book that you have authored, Broken
Speaker 1: Broken Windows, Broken Businesses, Yes so, by Michael Levine. Tell
Speaker 1: me about the book.
Speaker 9: Yep, Broken Windows, Broken Business is a business book predicated
Speaker 9: on the broken windows theory of criminology.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 9: If you and I go into a restaurant tomorrow and
Speaker 9: you go to the bathroom and the bathroom is dirty,
Speaker 9: you make a presumption subconsciously that maybe the kitchen isn't
Speaker 9: too clean. If you and I are on an airline
Speaker 9: and we pull the coffee trade down and there's a
Speaker 9: spot on the coffee trade that's not been cleaned, we
Speaker 9: make a subconscious decision that maybe the engine maintenance isn't
Speaker 9: being done too well. So little things matter. And that
Speaker 9: is the premise of Broken Windows, Broken Business, that little
Speaker 9: things matter. If you call your dentist and he answers
Speaker 9: he or she has, someone answered the phone, and it
Speaker 9: takes fourteen rings to answer the phone, and the first
Speaker 9: thing you hear when they pick up after fourteen rings is.
Speaker 2: Can you hold?
Speaker 9: It sends a signal to your brain. So it's an
Speaker 9: interesting book. It's been a phenomenal success. It was recently
Speaker 9: ranked one of the most influential business books of the
Speaker 9: last decades. And I invite your listeners who are business
Speaker 9: owners and interested in business to examine it. If they choose,
Speaker 9: I think you'll find it of some interest.
Speaker 2: And there we are.
Speaker 1: Michael Levine, thank you so much for detailing the demise
Speaker 1: of legacy media in this country. Too little, too late,
Speaker 1: And don't forget Broken Windows, Broken Business by Michael Levine,
Speaker 1: available wherever you buy books.
Speaker 9: Thank you, sir, Thank you sir, Thank you for your
Speaker 9: valuable audience.
Speaker 1: And so, just for future reference, I find a good
Speaker 1: substitute for BS is male bovine fecal sample good.
Speaker 5: I like it.
Speaker 1: Take Care Brother by seven hundred WLW cower into another
Speaker 1: hour of the Nightcap on seven hundred WLW, joining us
Speaker 1: another guy. It's been time like old Home week around
Speaker 1: here tonight because I've gotten a chance to talk to
Speaker 1: people that I have had the pleasure the opportunity to
Speaker 1: speak to over a great swath of time now and
Speaker 1: they're all coming back. The chickens are come home to roost. Baby.
Speaker 1: This guy, I think one of the first times we
Speaker 1: ever spoke. It was immediately in the aftermath of his
Speaker 1: thirteen and a half reasons not to become a Liberal
Speaker 1: and basically convince others that they shouldn't become a liberal either.
Speaker 1: And since then, of course, he has gone on too
Speaker 1: higher heights with his with his Capitol group that he's
Speaker 1: involved with as a host, as a talk show host,
Speaker 1: as an author, and as somebody who I've always found
Speaker 1: to be extremely not only entertaining, but informative as well.
Speaker 1: Here he is once again, Judge Judd Dunning, how are
Speaker 1: you doing tonight? I can spit that out.
Speaker 13: I'm good. I'm good with that. With that intro, I
Speaker 13: want to quote the Buddha. I'm just nobody going nowhere, Buddy,
Speaker 13: just another American.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's good enough. If you want to hide beneath
Speaker 1: that cloak of anonymity, that's fine. No, it's been a
Speaker 1: while since we last had a chance to chat, and
Speaker 1: so what have you been doing lately? I know you
Speaker 1: continue to write for Newsmax. I've got one of your
Speaker 1: latest pieces about Ukraine and the continuing foreign aid money
Speaker 1: laundering that has been going on at our expense. And
Speaker 1: it doesn't just begin with Ukraine either. We've been in
Speaker 1: this what I call the largest, the world's largest recirculating
Speaker 1: toilet of graft, and we've been participants unknowingly as American
Speaker 1: citizens and taxpayers. Have we not? Oh? Absolutely?
Speaker 13: I mean, look, we're talking about a system that has
Speaker 13: been ingrained for decades that we're just talking about being
Speaker 13: reversed and with dose coming in, et cetera.
Speaker 2: But really, what we're seeing is so exciting. It's transparency.
Speaker 2: We're seeing back room meetings in the front office in
Speaker 2: front of the news.
Speaker 1: He's like, the way that they weaponize.
Speaker 13: The news against Trump, Trump's flipped it over, is weaponizing
Speaker 13: transparency as a form of government, which is how it
Speaker 13: should be anyway, right, we shouldn't do anything that we
Speaker 13: wouldn't do publicly anyway. That is the definition of integrity.
Speaker 13: So very exciting, and I think what we're seeing too
Speaker 13: is like the layers after layers of the military destrial complex,
Speaker 13: the power of the elites. And you have Cash Fetel saying, Hey,
Speaker 13: we're going to go after j six, We're going to
Speaker 13: go after the election, medaling, We're going to go after
Speaker 13: the laptop.
Speaker 2: We're going to go after Team List.
Speaker 13: I mean moral absolute, moral absolutism.
Speaker 2: Good is good, bad is bad, right is right, wrong
Speaker 2: is wrong?
Speaker 1: Is returning at this moment?
Speaker 2: And where does it? I don't think Trump in the
Speaker 2: first series, Gary, I don't think he.
Speaker 13: Could go after everybody, honestly, And I think we're we're
Speaker 13: going to see a lot of a lot of just
Speaker 13: normal justice.
Speaker 1: You mentioned the laptop, Judd, and I keep thinking back
Speaker 1: to the interview I conducted in twenty twenty one with
Speaker 1: a man named John Paul mac Isaac who wound up
Speaker 1: being sued by Hunter Biden. He was the laptop repair
Speaker 1: man who Hunter dropped the laptop off into and when
Speaker 1: he didn't pick it up, obviously it becomes you know,
Speaker 1: the property of the person that had left care with
Speaker 1: and that was John Paul mack Isaac and he's looking
Speaker 1: at this laptop. I just would be interested to see
Speaker 1: how he's doing now, and because the Biden's truly tried
Speaker 1: to destroy his life completely financially and in every other way,
Speaker 1: to close his shop down there in Delaware and all
Speaker 1: the rest. So I'm hoping to get an update from
Speaker 1: him now that we know the laptop wasn't Russian disinformation,
Speaker 1: which we all knew from the GAT. But it is
Speaker 1: really interesting to see this transparency and all of the
Speaker 1: layers coming off, and not just the military industrial complex.
Speaker 1: With RFK Junior as the Secretary of HHS, we are
Speaker 1: unraveling the medical pharmaceutical industrial complex, and that is just
Speaker 1: as dangerous as the military industrial complex, don't you think, Oh?
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 13: I think, look, the loss of freedom related to the
Speaker 13: fear that was generated during that situation. Also, we have
Speaker 13: to unwind that history and there definitely have to be
Speaker 13: some kind of reparations. I mean, it doesne so so
Speaker 13: much to protect and cover the people that involved.
Speaker 1: I think there's one.
Speaker 13: Other there's one other part of this, you know, stool
Speaker 13: of truth that we're talking one other leg and I
Speaker 13: think that is I think it's this.
Speaker 2: I think it's the sexual and discretion. I think our
Speaker 2: nation the Epstein list.
Speaker 13: Right, things that have happened in government, the things that
Speaker 13: are like this, P Diddy, all this stuff you're seeing,
Speaker 13: is like, at what point do we actually take on
Speaker 13: the real essence of freedom, which is, you know, sex trafficking,
Speaker 13: human slavery. I mean, these numbers are phenomenal and they
Speaker 13: exist in our country. I mean, who knew the Super
Speaker 13: Bowl is like that the apex of sex trafficking and
Speaker 13: human trafficking. Seven million people at least are actually in
Speaker 13: some form of slavery in our country right now or
Speaker 13: more so, there's something that's happening, like we look the
Speaker 13: other way. But to the free speech around pornography, the
Speaker 13: sex industry, fence and all these things that happen, there
Speaker 13: is a decay that I'd really like to see that
Speaker 13: taken on. It's okay to say that, you know, perversion
Speaker 13: exploitation at any level is is is.
Speaker 2: Horrible, bad, wrong.
Speaker 13: And the drug cartel industry right below the you know,
Speaker 13: the the vaccine and medical pharmaceutical industry in the military
Speaker 13: destrial complex, that they're all part of the same group
Speaker 13: of elitist money. There's a lot of this massive amounts
Speaker 13: of capital.
Speaker 2: So I don't know. I think it's all going to uh.
Speaker 13: I think cash Hotel and Trump are going to take
Speaker 13: it on the nose.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, here's the thing with the cartels. Where
Speaker 1: is the money from all these you know, supposedly charitable
Speaker 1: NGOs coming from It's coming a non governmental organization is
Speaker 1: getting governmental money, our money. How can it be a
Speaker 1: not How can it be an NGO if it's using
Speaker 1: government money? I e RS. I've always wondered.
Speaker 13: There there's a great there's a great article the March
Speaker 13: of Dimes syndrome, which is definitely the work worth looking up.
Speaker 13: And what we don't realize is like at the NPOs,
Speaker 13: the NGOs, uh, what they're not vested in another huge
Speaker 13: level of graphs in the country behind the government, right,
Speaker 13: is they're not invested in solving their problems. Like if
Speaker 13: you solve AIDS, what happens, right, if you solve cancer,
Speaker 13: you solve whatever it is, whatever the cause is.
Speaker 1: Climate.
Speaker 2: They usually will try to keep the situation.
Speaker 13: Going because the people, just like the government workers that
Speaker 13: don't want to be put out of work now are
Speaker 13: are are.
Speaker 2: Going to experience so there is another side.
Speaker 13: The private sector behind the government is another level of graps.
Speaker 13: I'm sure that'll come up eventually, I hope. So, you know,
Speaker 13: it'd be great if our country continued to work on.
Speaker 1: Their finding its spirit. I mean, the more honestly.
Speaker 13: Get, the more good we get. You know, the America
Speaker 13: is great because she's good. I think it's all in
Speaker 13: the I think we have somebody who had one ninety
Speaker 13: one million dollars fine, two impeachments, two assassination attempts, right
Speaker 13: thirty four to forty lawsuits.
Speaker 2: I think we have somebody who really doesn't care.
Speaker 13: About what people think about them now, and he's older,
Speaker 13: and I think he's already been successful in business, and
Speaker 13: so there's a lot of power to not caring what
Speaker 13: people think if your values are in the rights Drew.
Speaker 1: Some people suggest that maybe it's a good idea to
Speaker 1: take a term off in between you two presidential terms,
Speaker 1: you know, to take what you learned and apply it
Speaker 1: and kind of observe and watch what's going on in
Speaker 1: the interim and come back and go, Okay, I'm really
Speaker 1: seeing how this works now after my first initial foray,
Speaker 1: and I know what has to be done, and I
Speaker 1: think that's Donald Trump, and he has been fulfilling or
Speaker 1: trying to fulfill almost every campaign promise he made. He
Speaker 1: attempted to do that in twenty seventeen when in his
Speaker 1: first term, but he was so handcuffed by backstabbers and
Speaker 1: not understanding that he had to truly have his own
Speaker 1: people and not Washington insiders fulfilling the agenda. I'm looking
Speaker 1: at your latest Newsmax column or the one I've got
Speaker 1: anyway in hand. America First, why we must end the
Speaker 1: UK grip, UK crane gift grift and rebuild our own nation.
Speaker 1: I got to get these dentures fixed yet, But he said,
Speaker 1: and you started with the real question is why is
Speaker 1: anyone shocked that he's doing what he's doing?
Speaker 13: And go ahead, No, I was just tying into what
Speaker 13: you were just saying. I think one of the things
Speaker 13: that people are not realizing. Trump had like three hundred
Speaker 13: and eighty five notable achievements in his last term and
Speaker 13: retires about shaking a break.
Speaker 2: But on this situation, you're like, oh, he's acting like
Speaker 2: a king. He's doing all these things.
Speaker 13: Actually, Trump is a gen regulator. So if you look
Speaker 13: at the soul of the American human being.
Speaker 2: Like before all of this, like our.
Speaker 13: Soul as a citizen, it's local, state, federal, and then
Speaker 13: you know, preeminent is is us our soul, our being,
Speaker 13: our intellectual and physical presidence. Right, it's before government.
Speaker 2: I've written this before.
Speaker 13: We can actually take ten years off of creating laws.
Speaker 13: We don't have institutionalized racism and bigotry, and we don't
Speaker 13: have exploitation. As far as the American system, it's continue
Speaker 13: to refine, so we can actually take a break from
Speaker 13: making laws. And Trump isn't a king imposing laws.
Speaker 2: He's doing the opposite.
Speaker 13: He's deregulating to allow our you know, moral, ethical, powerful
Speaker 13: American passionate nature to march forward unfettered, you know.
Speaker 2: And so it's an interesting it's an interesting interesting.
Speaker 13: Moment is as people try to frame him as somebody
Speaker 13: who's taking control when he's actually giving up control in
Speaker 13: most of the situations.
Speaker 1: Do you think we'll ever find out where a good
Speaker 1: portion of bulk of these Ukraine funds that have actually
Speaker 1: wound up in the in the laps or in the
Speaker 1: pockets of Do you think we'll ever get that level
Speaker 1: of transparency when it's all said and done, jud Or
Speaker 1: or is that money just those billions just gone forever
Speaker 1: and there's no way to reach because Zolenski didn't know
Speaker 1: where the money was that he was asking for. I mean,
Speaker 1: if if the guy who's got his hand out doesn't
Speaker 1: know where the money's gonna go when you put it
Speaker 1: in his hand, then why are we putting money in
Speaker 1: his hand? That's the question.
Speaker 13: You go one step behind that, and if I can
Speaker 13: frame this in Gary, what's interesting is like when the
Speaker 13: media wanted us to see their agenda with Hamas and
Speaker 13: Gaza versus Israel. Right, we saw devastation day in and
Speaker 13: day out and day out. But if you go to
Speaker 13: right now, if you go and google how many people
Speaker 13: have died in this war, that it'll come up like
Speaker 13: one hundred and forty eight thousand, right, But then you
Speaker 13: hear from Trump and to hear from other people that
Speaker 13: it's seven hundred and eight hundred and one.
Speaker 1: Point five million.
Speaker 13: But they we haven't even seen the war in lifetime
Speaker 13: to have a moral opposition to this, to the graft.
Speaker 13: So if you were seeing devastation night after night like
Speaker 13: Vietnam we see now, you know.
Speaker 2: If you're seeing the devastation, we'd be like this is horrible.
Speaker 2: With Gaza, we're like, this is horrible.
Speaker 13: I haven't seen images of the Ukraine and Russia throughout
Speaker 13: I've seen a few, you know.
Speaker 2: I've seen a few pictures.
Speaker 13: So look at the collective cabal to keep this money moving,
Speaker 13: this dark money, this military industrial money, this anti democratic
Speaker 13: graft that's going on there. I don't think there's a
Speaker 13: lot of support to dig deeper under there. You know,
Speaker 13: I don't know if we'll ever get there. If you
Speaker 13: know the history of the Ukraine and all of its corruption,
Speaker 13: if you know you know it's the way that it's
Speaker 13: expanded and redacted, it's it's going to be a very
Speaker 13: difficult society to chase that money.
Speaker 2: And the biggest thing we can do is to shut
Speaker 2: it down.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I've got no problem with somebody, you know,
Speaker 1: flying a Ukraine flag outside their house along with their
Speaker 1: American flag. That's fine. I see that and have seen
Speaker 1: it through the course of this war after Putin invaded.
Speaker 1: But you can wave your flag, you can go ahead
Speaker 1: and send the money yourself. Because I have no dog
Speaker 1: in this fight other than to say, well, you know,
Speaker 1: it's horrible to have your country invaded by somebody who
Speaker 1: obviously is a bloodthirsty kind of guy who was looking
Speaker 1: out for Russia's interest, you know, and the president President
Speaker 1: Trump is right and you're right in this piece. We've
Speaker 1: got to look out after America's interest before we do
Speaker 1: anything else with anybody else. I mean, because if we
Speaker 1: don't have a solid base, if we don't have a
Speaker 1: solid tax base, if we don't have a country that
Speaker 1: is morally upright and transparent all the way around, how
Speaker 1: could we possibly help anybody else who was way too
Speaker 1: entangled in their own corruption. It's just one of those
Speaker 1: non starters for me, and I think for you too.
Speaker 13: It's interesting because Americas have to remember the integrity of
Speaker 13: our commitment is the Budapest Memorandum, when we told them
Speaker 13: to take no nukes for them on the edge of Russia.
Speaker 13: We would back them, but they wouldn't answer Nado. We
Speaker 13: honored our pledge to the Ukraine. Now we came to
Speaker 13: their aid, and settling out a conflict is also still
Speaker 13: honoring our commitment. The virtue signa left is like, oh,
Speaker 13: we don't care, we're backing out. Wait a minute, we've
Speaker 13: one hundred and thirteen billion, we've already so settling it
Speaker 13: as as noble is as backing it, right.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's some real geopolitical history in this area.
Speaker 13: So we've honored our commitment as Americans, and we've done
Speaker 13: a darn good job at it, even though it's ugly
Speaker 13: and we've lost money.
Speaker 2: That happens in almost every other country. We're extremely civilized country.
Speaker 13: We have a fantastic judicial system, right, so like things
Speaker 13: that happen here usually can be tracked. So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 13: I know, I'm with you. And if you think about
Speaker 13: last points is if you think I wrote the article,
Speaker 13: is like we could have housed every homeless person and
Speaker 13: given them vocational training, we could have fought, we could
Speaker 13: have finished the border with that money and actually handled
Speaker 13: all of us gone in the Battle of Fence and all.
Speaker 2: We could have fixed our infrastructure.
Speaker 1: That was a lot of capital.
Speaker 2: And you're absolutely correct.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of people in western North Carolina
Speaker 1: who would have, you know, been very grateful to get
Speaker 1: one tenth of the money that we've sent to Ukraine
Speaker 1: so far in the wake of the disaster of Helene.
Speaker 1: And you know, in southern California with the wildfires, there
Speaker 1: are so many needs that American people, American taxpayers have
Speaker 1: that are not really being fulfilled and they should be
Speaker 1: instead of sending it to a war that we have
Speaker 1: really no stake in other than upholding promises that we
Speaker 1: made and we did that. You're right too in this
Speaker 1: that the European Union enjoys one hundred and sixty dollars
Speaker 1: billion trade surplus with US while dodging responsibility for their
Speaker 1: own backyard. Yes, true, Just real quickly on reciprocal tariffs
Speaker 1: that Donald Trump has instituted and has insisted are necessary
Speaker 1: for us to regain our economic might and greatness.
Speaker 14: Uh.
Speaker 1: I mean that's that seems pretty cut and dried to
Speaker 1: me too. I don't understand the kickback. Why should we
Speaker 1: be paying all these tariffs uh to Europe to send
Speaker 1: our products over there and they basically have a free
Speaker 1: pass on the American market.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely a reversion of of parody.
Speaker 14: You know.
Speaker 2: I think it's great.
Speaker 13: We're so we're so concerned with the diversity, equity, inclusion
Speaker 13: in our own country, right, but when it comes to
Speaker 13: the world, we don't consider it doesn't make sense. And
Speaker 13: then we have this globalist, technocratic like pressure to join
Speaker 13: to make America less great and join the world community
Speaker 13: at the same time the world community that we're completely
Speaker 13: out of balance and equity with right. It's a it's
Speaker 13: a it's a conundrum of it's amazing how hypocritical it
Speaker 13: is in a way, you know, join this, but by
Speaker 13: the way it's it's not it's not one fair you know,
Speaker 13: but you should be one of them in the exact
Speaker 13: things footage. It's it's a hole in their theory.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's it's like, uh, we've been acting
Speaker 1: towards the EU for years. It's like, well, yeah, we're
Speaker 1: we're partners, but you don't really have to pay your
Speaker 1: fair share. Donald Trump has made that very clear that
Speaker 1: that is going to end. And the grift that you
Speaker 1: write about in Ukraine, that has to end to Uh.
Speaker 1: When the person that is in charge of defending his country,
Speaker 1: President Zelenski, doesn't know where the money is or where
Speaker 1: it went, then we ought to think twice about sending
Speaker 1: even one more shekel that way. Uh, jud Dunning, how
Speaker 1: could people find you if they'd like to know more
Speaker 1: about Jud? Yeah? Now I had a quote lined up.
Speaker 2: I want to if I can just drop it? Sure?
Speaker 2: It was so good, Patrick Henry said, you want to
Speaker 2: get the perils of ignorance.
Speaker 1: This is where we are.
Speaker 13: It is natural to man to indulge in the illusions
Speaker 13: of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against
Speaker 13: the painful truth.
Speaker 2: And I just think this is where we are at.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 13: It's like we have to remember if somebody is bold
Speaker 13: enough to risk their life, to risk their prosperity of
Speaker 13: their life, therefore to their sacred honor like Trump did,
Speaker 13: Like it's gonna be painful to look into all the
Speaker 13: greed and all the distortions, you know, but at the
Speaker 13: same time, it's just a victorious period. I'm just so
Speaker 13: I'm so pleased to be part of what's going on
Speaker 13: right now. You can reach you can Jug Dunning at
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Speaker 2: That's where we get to get to.
Speaker 13: Guys like Harry and be here in the heart of America.
Speaker 2: So thank you so much, my.
Speaker 1: Friend, God bless you and thank you for your time. Tonight,
Speaker 1: Judd Dunning with us on the night Cap, and there's
Speaker 1: still more left before midnight. The wild Man will join
Speaker 1: us after the break and news here on seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 1: Here's a spring cleaning hack before we head home. We
Speaker 1: talked to the wild Man. That's Dennis wild Walker, I
Speaker 1: E sports commando, I E athletics supporter. I wouldn't call
Speaker 1: him a jock, but he definitely supports Cincinnati Athletics. He
Speaker 1: loves the Bengals, he loves the Reds. And we're right
Speaker 1: here smack dab in the middle of free agency season
Speaker 1: in the NFL. What's going on? Wild Man? Spring has sprung?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 14: What a great day to day and the rest of
Speaker 14: the week. Goodbye winter, Hello spring. Thirteen days until opening day.
Speaker 14: I hope it's like this on opening.
Speaker 1: Day, no doubt. So tell me about what's going on
Speaker 1: in free agency. I have not heard the latest and greatest.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you've got your ear to the ground finding
Speaker 1: out who is going to be around for the Bengals
Speaker 1: in the fall of twenty five and who is not.
Speaker 1: So what do you know and when did you know it?
Speaker 5: All?
Speaker 1: Hello?
Speaker 14: NFL teams are throwing money around like drunken sailors, you know,
Speaker 14: to get their players signed.
Speaker 1: I mean the Browns. You heard about that Daniel Miles Garrett.
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett's coming back the cash Baby.
Speaker 14: Four year contract, forty million dollars, Oh my god. And
Speaker 14: then you got Josh Allen, Josh Allen of the Buffalo Bills,
Speaker 14: a six year deal, two hundred and fifty million dollars
Speaker 14: of it.
Speaker 1: Guaranteed, guarantee now guarantee when when Deshaun watched it, Josh Allen,
Speaker 1: when Deshaun Watson signed that original deal with the Browns
Speaker 1: that was like two hundred something million, But it wasn't
Speaker 1: all guaranteed money, was it? I hope not say. I
Speaker 1: think most of it was. Oh wow, I believe most
Speaker 1: of it was. Yes, that's been a big bust. Uh
Speaker 1: total busts. Josh Allen though, h six years, two hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty million dollars guaranteed for those six years. What
Speaker 1: does that do for somebody like Joe Burrow when it's
Speaker 1: time to renegotiate his deed?
Speaker 14: Well, I think Joe don't want Joe's making fifty five
Speaker 14: million a year.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's the word of about it right now.
Speaker 14: I don't think that would. We need to get these
Speaker 14: other other guys in line, all right. Number one, the
Speaker 14: Bengals have re signed one Mike Chaseeki.
Speaker 1: The tight end, to a three year deal.
Speaker 14: They resigned BJ Hill, defensive lineman, to a three year deal.
Speaker 14: They re signed offensive tackles center, and he sells a
Speaker 14: popcorn in the stands during the game, a Cody Ford.
Speaker 14: So they're out, they're out trying to get these guys
Speaker 14: signed up. I was told, I was told Saturday night
Speaker 14: that t Higgins has already signed his contract, that he
Speaker 14: did it at a popular restaurant in the back room
Speaker 14: a week ago, but they just haven't announced it yet.
Speaker 14: And I said, now, how would you How could you
Speaker 14: get confirmed that? And he told me how it was
Speaker 14: confirmed to him. So I don't know if that's true
Speaker 14: or not, but I'm just throwing it out there. Trey Hedminson,
Speaker 14: of course, everybody knows he's been told to go in
Speaker 14: and see if you can get a better deal. So
Speaker 14: the reports are running rampant Garry Jeff that the Bengals
Speaker 14: have made an offer to him thirty million dollars.
Speaker 1: Wow, thirty million dollars.
Speaker 14: Yeah, but I think a lot of it depends on
Speaker 14: the length or the guarantee.
Speaker 1: I think that's what those sticking points. Yeah, Trey Hendrickson
Speaker 1: is not a young pup, but he just came off
Speaker 1: of what arguably is one of the best seasons of
Speaker 1: Bengals pass rusher has ever had.
Speaker 14: Absolutely, but and he's trying to get the payday and
Speaker 14: now when he sees Miles Garrett getting that kind of
Speaker 14: money and he and Trey Heckneson led the league in sacks.
Speaker 14: I don't blame me intor trying to get what you can.
Speaker 14: But then then you know, you got to look at
Speaker 14: the other situation here with Trey Hendrickson.
Speaker 1: You just said he's thirty four years old.
Speaker 14: There was a few games where he didn't even he
Speaker 14: didn't even you know, get a sniff of anybody.
Speaker 1: I remember the I think it was the Ravens game.
Speaker 1: He didn't do anything in that game. So well, you
Speaker 1: know that's the thing wild man. Teams can plan around
Speaker 1: one guy if if there's no more help than defensive yid. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we get it's like another edge rusher. Yeah, I agree,
Speaker 1: Sam Hubbard is and it was time for Sam to retire.
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely yes. And who else do the Bengals have
Speaker 1: to pair with Hendrickson, that is the question, because that
Speaker 1: will make him all that much more effective. I mean,
Speaker 1: do they trust the draft. Do they go on free
Speaker 1: agency and find somebody else that can put some pressure
Speaker 1: on opposing quarterbacks? That is the question.
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, Well, I know there's a good edge rusher
Speaker 14: in the draft that could be available for the Bengals.
Speaker 14: But Miles Murphy, the number one pick three years ago.
Speaker 14: Is the jury still.
Speaker 1: Out on him? I don't think.
Speaker 14: I don't think Lou Almilla really liked him, but for
Speaker 14: some reason, I'd rather go with a veteran.
Speaker 1: Lou Anne Room was gone, so we don't have to
Speaker 1: worry about lou anymore.
Speaker 14: Right, So maybe Miles Murphy you'll get a better look
Speaker 14: or whatnot.
Speaker 1: I mean, if he wasn't any good, he would be
Speaker 1: on the team. That's the way I look at it.
Speaker 1: I just got to be doing something. I just heard
Speaker 1: some of the commentators says that he thinks, and I
Speaker 1: think I've heard this from a numerous people that Jamar,
Speaker 1: Chase t Higgins, Trey Hendrickson, they're all gonna get done
Speaker 1: with the Bengals. You think that's a possibility.
Speaker 14: I'd say it's eighty twenty. Henrickson, I'm kind of leaning against.
Speaker 14: I know they're gonna sign Jamal that's come on. You
Speaker 14: keep telling everybody him and Joe are tied at the hip.
Speaker 14: He's going nowhere, and then t Higgins either either they
Speaker 14: don't get it done. It's gonna be making twenty six
Speaker 14: million dollars. But like I said, somebody told me that
Speaker 14: the deal was already done at the Bengals were just
Speaker 14: waiting to know the bust out with it.
Speaker 1: But not on him.
Speaker 2: I believe I see it.
Speaker 1: And having an experienced, veteran tight end who can catch
Speaker 1: the ball I e. Koseki in the fall is a
Speaker 1: fantastic thing for the Bengals offense. But you know, you
Speaker 1: talk about Jamar and Joe tied at the hip, and
Speaker 1: we've seen what the combination of a great quarterback and
Speaker 1: an in tune receiver, whether it be a tight end
Speaker 1: or a wide receiver, can do for an offense. We've
Speaker 1: watched it over and over again, not only here with
Speaker 1: the Bengals, but we saw it for years with Tom
Speaker 1: Brady and Gronk. We saw it in Kansas City with
Speaker 1: Kelsey in his prime and Patrick Mahomes. When you have
Speaker 1: players on your team that instinctively know what that other
Speaker 1: player is going to do, not just because they've practiced it,
Speaker 1: but they have this kind of mental telepathy together, and
Speaker 1: that's what Jamar and Joe seem to have. Don't you think.
Speaker 14: I would agree to that man with like a Davante
Speaker 14: Adams and.
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 14: Speaking of Aaron Rodgers, there's rumors running round but that
Speaker 14: he may end up in Pittsburgh. And how about the
Speaker 14: Steelers going out and to sign a dk Metcalf to
Speaker 14: a multi maayion dollar contract. So now they've got two
Speaker 14: good wide receivers. Well the season going into the season.
Speaker 14: Here's the thing.
Speaker 1: If Aaron Rodgers goes to the Steelers, we definitely want
Speaker 1: to keep Hendricksoner around because Aaron's a statue back there.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you he is, but he but he goes
Speaker 1: still throw the football.
Speaker 14: He had twenty eight touchdowns, thirty five hundred yards. I mean,
Speaker 14: Russell Wilson, what did he really do? I didn't see
Speaker 14: that guy I really do anything. But he's still in
Speaker 14: the mix. But this rumor's running rampant that possibly that
Speaker 14: Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: I think he's going to play, but Pittsburgh wouldn't be
Speaker 1: I'd be licking my chops if you're facing the Steelers
Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers. Believe me, he's not only old, he's immobile.
Speaker 1: I mean, Roethlisberger was immobile in his prime, but he
Speaker 1: was so damn big that you couldn't get him back.
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers doesn't have been Roethlisberger's body. So
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a great move for the
Speaker 1: Steelers or not. Well, we'll wait, let's see. Okay, interesting,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what we're talking about. Thirteen days away
Speaker 1: from opening day, and I've always already had some shows preempted,
Speaker 1: as you know, on the nightcaps, with some spring training games.
Speaker 1: What is yours says? So far? It's always incredibly early
Speaker 1: when you're talking about spring training and you're just deciding
Speaker 1: on who's going to make the final big league roster.
Speaker 1: But have you seen anything from the Reds that gives
Speaker 1: you any encouragement thirteen days out?
Speaker 14: Well, Matt McClain, it looks like he hasn't mister beats
Speaker 14: as being out. He's swinging the bat. Well, I haven't
Speaker 14: seen much out of some of the other guys. The
Speaker 14: pitching staff has been up and down, but it's spring training.
Speaker 14: A lot of a lot of the experts are thinking
Speaker 14: that the Reds might surprise some people the over.
Speaker 1: I think the over.
Speaker 14: Under is seventy nine. To deal with injuries and that
Speaker 14: I don't think the Reds don't have that power hitter.
Speaker 14: And you look at every team in Major League Baseball,
Speaker 14: they have a power hitter in the lineup, and I
Speaker 14: think the pitchers can get around that. They don't have
Speaker 14: that threat. From the games I've watched, I haven't seen
Speaker 14: anything that you know, has blown.
Speaker 1: Me away by Kelly. Yeah, I mean Ellie day La
Speaker 1: Cruz has come out smoking.
Speaker 14: Let's hope he uh pulls back the range a little
Speaker 14: bit so he'll be ready.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't want to. You know, in a way,
Speaker 1: it still your power in spring training when the games
Speaker 1: really don't count. You got that, right, you know, let's
Speaker 1: let's go back. Uh, you attended spring training when it
Speaker 1: was in Florida, right, you did that most Sarasota.
Speaker 14: I love well your plants well Tapa Tapa, plant City
Speaker 14: and Sarasota.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you, wild man, when you were
Speaker 1: going to spring training. Was that a Was there a
Speaker 1: player that you saw in spring training that came from
Speaker 1: literally out of nowhere that wound up making the club? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, ah, Chris Sabo. It will be the grand
Speaker 1: Marshal for the opening day parade this year. Old spots
Speaker 1: So was he was he a rookie then or second year? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was just a yeah here comes take my called off.
Speaker 1: You know, he was still in the minor league system. Yeah.
Speaker 14: Yeah, but just the way he was playing. You know,
Speaker 14: he was playing the ball well, filling the ball well.
Speaker 14: And p Rose said, you know what, I want to
Speaker 14: put this guy on the team.
Speaker 1: So to this point you have seen no Chris Sabo
Speaker 1: yet in Red spring training. Say that again, to this
Speaker 1: point you have seen no Chris Sabo. Oh no, nosing
Speaker 1: to the top from nowhere? Okay, No, no, I have done.
Speaker 1: I think any Red span would agree with me. There, No,
Speaker 1: I have not. All right, you want to talk turny
Speaker 1: time since we're just on the we're in in the
Speaker 1: middle of March madness. We got conference turning front. We're
Speaker 1: starting tomorrow you see, and Xavier both hitting the conference
Speaker 1: trail and hopefully Xavier at this point. Over the weekend,
Speaker 1: Xavier was listed as the last team in by Joe Lonardi,
Speaker 1: the bracketologist who has a pretty good track record. But
Speaker 1: you think they have to win the Big East Tournament
Speaker 1: or to get in Xavier.
Speaker 14: The Musketeers need to probably win two games, and in
Speaker 14: this tournament. I don't think they have to win it.
Speaker 14: I they won what seventh Street yes season, winning seven
Speaker 14: in a row. They struggled a little bit yesterday. Anybody
Speaker 14: took the betting line and they had a case of
Speaker 14: the Google. They lost out. They to Xavier, but they
Speaker 14: won seven in a row. Big Easts. You know, it's
Speaker 14: a good conference. You know those uh, those people that
Speaker 14: picked the teams to play in the tournament, look at that.
Speaker 14: I think they if the Musketeers, who should win two,
Speaker 14: they're they're going to get in as or U see.
Speaker 14: A first game is against Oklahoma State. They lost to
Speaker 14: Oklahoma State last week. You see, might you see might
Speaker 14: beat them the second time around, but they're going nowhere
Speaker 14: and then and when we're out of the tournament, just
Speaker 14: stay home.
Speaker 1: There's no n I T bid. I don't want no
Speaker 1: n I T bid for the bear Cats.
Speaker 14: But they could win one. They might win one. That's
Speaker 14: part as they're not winning. They're not winning that tournament.
Speaker 1: The only team I ever got excited about being in
Speaker 1: the n I T and this was years ago. When
Speaker 1: the n i T had a little bit more clout
Speaker 1: than it does today, because I mean it's just so
Speaker 1: watered down with mediocre teams. My Vanderbilt Commodorees and think
Speaker 1: eighty nine or whatever won the n i T tournament,
Speaker 1: and I remember going to the airport in Nashville to
Speaker 1: meet him because I was a huge Fandy fan basketball fan.
Speaker 1: And the next year they were in the sweet sixteen.
Speaker 1: So sometimes the n i T can be a thing
Speaker 1: to build on. But this UC team needs an entire
Speaker 1: overhaul in my opinion, and I'm not an expert or
Speaker 1: a coach, I'm just an observer. They need an entire overhaul,
Speaker 1: and it starts at the top.
Speaker 14: Well, John Coynehan, the ad UC already said that that
Speaker 14: that wayde Miller will be back here, ye Wes west Miller.
Speaker 14: And if they if they decide they have a change
Speaker 14: of heart, I cost you ten million dollars to buy
Speaker 14: them out.
Speaker 1: They can't afford that, but they but they will if
Speaker 1: if nothing changes next year, I think he's out next
Speaker 1: year regardless. And Lesten, I think next year, I think
Speaker 1: next year he is on the hot sea. That that buyout,
Speaker 1: that buyout money is reduced in half next year if
Speaker 1: they let him go. Yes, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: spit in the ocean. Yes, all right. Uh, let's see
Speaker 1: who do you like in the tournament? Do you do
Speaker 1: you have a team particularly that you think can make
Speaker 1: a run all the way to number one in the
Speaker 1: you know?
Speaker 2: Wow?
Speaker 14: You know you're I think it's going to come out.
Speaker 14: I'm gonna say this, it's going to come out of
Speaker 14: the SEC.
Speaker 2: Ye.
Speaker 14: One of those teams in the SEC is going to
Speaker 14: win the national title. That's what I could.
Speaker 1: I can't tell you. I don't think Kentucky has it.
Speaker 1: Maybe it could be Alburn, maybe it could be Alabama.
Speaker 14: Uh, I'm gonna say it's going to be the team
Speaker 14: from the from the SEC that's going to win the
Speaker 14: NC double title. Because the SEC is the toughest conference
Speaker 14: in basketball.
Speaker 1: Well, you know when when they weren't necessarily the toughest
Speaker 1: concert content conference in basketball college basketball? You remember the
Speaker 1: year that the SEC had three out of four teams
Speaker 1: in the final four, And now that wasn't with the
Speaker 1: NIL and the transfer portal. Then that was just the
Speaker 1: way it all worked out, and that was extremely exciting
Speaker 1: for somebody who, as I mentioned, followed Vanderbilt basketball, thus
Speaker 1: the SEC. But to see those conference teams battling each
Speaker 1: other and the brackets allowing three out of four teams,
Speaker 1: they're going to be thirteen to fourteen teams from the
Speaker 1: SEC and the damn thing wild man. So that's that's
Speaker 1: like fourteen teams out of sixty eight. So the odds
Speaker 1: are pretty good. The odds are pretty good there'll be
Speaker 1: an SEC team at least one in the final four.
Speaker 1: Anybody else come to mind? Though, as you look at
Speaker 1: the pretend maybe the.
Speaker 14: Duke maybe to Duke Blue Devils possibly uh huh, one
Speaker 14: they've had and maybe because tom Izzo knows how to
Speaker 14: get his guys ready for the tournament.
Speaker 1: Michigan State, you know, isn't that wild. It doesn't matter
Speaker 1: what the Spartans do the entire year, if they're even
Speaker 1: on the bubble and they get in, they're always a
Speaker 1: tough out because because of tom Izzo's time tested knowing
Speaker 1: how to prepare players for that biggest stage. That is
Speaker 1: that is an incredible, credible legacy. If you look at
Speaker 1: his career at Michigan State and see how many times
Speaker 1: they have advanced far into the tournament and they're always
Speaker 1: a threat. You're right, right, So that's what That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying there. So what are you thinking. I'm thinking
Speaker 1: that there there's there's an upstarts team somewhere that's had
Speaker 1: a maybe a middling season, uh, that is going to
Speaker 1: make a run deep. There always is one. There's always
Speaker 1: a twelve that beats a five. You know, there's always
Speaker 1: a So when you're filling out your brackets and you're
Speaker 1: looking at the twelve five seeds, don't be so quick
Speaker 1: to pick chalk. There'll be a team there. There may
Speaker 1: be three SEC teams in the final four, and then
Speaker 1: one team nobody expected, just because because of the nature
Speaker 1: of that tournament it's one game and done or one
Speaker 1: game and go on. And on any given night in
Speaker 1: the Big Dance, there is a team that you don't
Speaker 1: expect that and and you know, and if they get
Speaker 1: that big win, say a twelve beats of five somewhere
Speaker 1: in the bracket, then that twelve goes on to the
Speaker 1: next round and they've got momentum at that point, they're
Speaker 1: on a roll, they're hot, they believe that they can win.
Speaker 1: So there will be one of those teams that makes
Speaker 1: it very far at least to the Elite eight. I
Speaker 1: guarantee you there'll be a twelve seed that makes the
Speaker 1: Elite eight, if not the final four. That's what I think.
Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna pick a team, but right think
Speaker 1: you think that's entirely plausible, right, I agree with you. Yes,
Speaker 1: happens all the time. It happens all the time, wild man.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Brother. It's always good to talk
Speaker 1: to you and hook up, especially if our interviews get
Speaker 1: on the air. Yeah, so I like that.
Speaker 14: Yeah, we do all that talk and then we get
Speaker 14: we get we get knocked out, you know.
Speaker 1: But that's that's live in the Big City. All right, brother,
Speaker 1: Thanks the Big City. Thank you so much. Soon all right, Gary,
Speaker 1: you got the wild Man with a hooda at the end,
Speaker 1: and that's about where we are at the end. Back
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