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Speaker 1: What's going on, everybody? I'm Paul Aston Junior aka Boy Green.
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Speaker 4: How you doing.
Speaker 1: I'm doing excellent. First off, thank you so much for
Speaker 1: jumping in mid and dom C was wonderful. We had
Speaker 1: Jim on. We met Jim on last week. He did
Speaker 1: his own mock draft which was great. And Drew, You're
Speaker 1: gonna be with us, like I said, through the rest
Speaker 1: of this cycle, which is another month plus here getting
Speaker 1: us ready for the twenty twenty five NFL Draft. We
Speaker 1: appreciate you, pal.
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, man, I appreciate you having me on here.
Speaker 4: I'm always ready for some morning draft talk.
Speaker 1: Okay, well seven round mockcraft. We have not done that
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Speaker 1: Drew makes all the final picks around here. He's the boss.
Speaker 1: I've just some guy over here, and every once in
Speaker 1: a while I'll poke his brain about a couple of
Speaker 1: different prospects. What's going on in that draft mind of Drew,
Speaker 1: But ultimately he makes all the final calls without further Ado,
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Speaker 1: We are using the PFF mock draft simulator. The Jets,
Speaker 1: of course have the seventh overall pick. All of the
Speaker 1: settings will be fifty to fifty outside of randomness, because
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Speaker 4: Never been more ready?
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Speaker 1: New York Jets mock draft. If the gods will load here,
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Speaker 1: technical difficulties here. But a seven round New York Jets
Speaker 1: mock draft, the first one of this cycle, and like
Speaker 1: I said, Drew is a very very brave man for
Speaker 1: getting this party underways without further ado, we will I
Speaker 1: will read the first couple of picks here for the
Speaker 1: seventh overall, and then we won't obviously do that for
Speaker 1: every other round of what happened in front of the Jets.
Speaker 1: Travis Hunter was a number one overall pick to the
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. We'll get Drew's thoughts on that in a second.
Speaker 1: The corner wide receiver out of Colorado, Mason Graham, what
Speaker 1: the flying who went to tier defensive lineman Michigan went
Speaker 1: to the Cleveland Browns. The second overall pick, Abdul Carter,
Speaker 1: penn state pass rusher, went to the Giants at three
Speaker 1: Technic Bill and went to New England Patriots. Fourth overall,
Speaker 1: the watersHer out of Arizona. We'll Campbell, the offensive lineman
Speaker 1: at Olsu went to the Jacksonville Jaguars, and John A.
Speaker 1: Barn Okay, the defensive back out of Texas went six
Speaker 1: overall to the Las Vegas Raiders, which means the New
Speaker 1: York Jets are officially on the clock with the seventh
Speaker 1: overall pick. Drew, I know you're a Titans guy. First off,
Speaker 1: is it obviously cam Ward for you guys? Or is
Speaker 1: there some question?
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, it has been cam Ward for a couple
Speaker 4: of weeks now, and there's still some trade roomors floating
Speaker 4: out there. To my knowledge, those are not based on
Speaker 4: pretty much anything. I think the phone line are still open,
Speaker 4: but it's pretty much been confirmed as Ward for a
Speaker 4: couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: Now, Okay, so that's good. So we'll pretty obviously we'll
Speaker 1: also try to factor this int of realism. If there's
Speaker 1: someone available on the board that you think has zero chance,
Speaker 1: like cam Ward for instance, I believe it's still on
Speaker 1: the board in the scenario, we could just ignore that
Speaker 1: he's actually on the board here because PFF does its
Speaker 1: own craziness. But AnyWho, what is the thought here for
Speaker 1: the Jets. We're bringing a fresh mind in here from you.
Speaker 1: Jet fans have been doing a ton of mock drafts
Speaker 1: so far as the cycle. What are you thinking at
Speaker 1: seven for the Green and White?
Speaker 4: Yeah, So going into this just with my preliminary Jets research,
Speaker 4: my general draft strategy, and let me know if I'm
Speaker 4: off base on anything, just pure roster wise, the main
Speaker 4: places I'm trying to hit are past, get your receiver
Speaker 4: and tight end. I think those are both places that
Speaker 4: could be hit right. Tackle is a big hole from
Speaker 4: what I've seen. I think boundary corner could be kind
Speaker 4: of a sneaky need. I think that some edge depth,
Speaker 4: maybe I probably won't hit that till like day three ish.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 4: I think safety could be a sneaky need for sure,
Speaker 4: But I think the top three positions I'm probably trying
Speaker 4: to hit are a right tackle, tight end, and receiver.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The only other one I think some people would
Speaker 1: throw in there is a defensive tackle next to Quinn Williams.
Speaker 1: They signs sort of a bunch of fat guys. It's
Speaker 1: that sees it, But they don't have a lot of
Speaker 1: name value outside of Derek Noddy from the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 1: All the rest of them are just sort of guides,
Speaker 1: so who knows if they'll even end up making the
Speaker 1: fifty three man roster. So obviously there's some thought there,
Speaker 1: and then you know, depending on how you feel about
Speaker 1: justin fields, I guess quarterback could always be in question
Speaker 1: for the Green and White as well, which is another
Speaker 1: one as well. But it seems like you have a
Speaker 1: pretty good handle on most of the jets of positional
Speaker 1: needs here. Like I said, throwing an interior defensive line
Speaker 1: as well into that group. Okay, so with the seventh
Speaker 1: overall pick, here's the big question. We're going to do
Speaker 1: a show on this later this week about it, but
Speaker 1: I guess i'll ask you with your draft knowledge. I
Speaker 1: think the big thing here is that Jets only have
Speaker 1: one seventh overall pick to use, and the next time
Speaker 1: the pick is forty two in the second round. With
Speaker 1: so many needs right tackle, defensive tackle, wide receiver, tight end,
Speaker 1: whatever they pick, the Jets have to sort of make
Speaker 1: a calculated risk and say, Okay, if we get insert
Speaker 1: tight end here, what defensive tackle can we get there
Speaker 1: at forty two or vice versa. So, in your opinion,
Speaker 1: out of all these things, a right tackle, defensive tackle,
Speaker 1: wide receiver, tight end, throw as many of them in
Speaker 1: there as you can. What has the gap where you
Speaker 1: would feel comfortable taking a different position because you know
Speaker 1: at forty two you're still going to get a guy
Speaker 1: you really like at one of those key positions we've
Speaker 1: already talked about.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a really good question. I think you know,
Speaker 4: when you're in the draft space, it's really all about value,
Speaker 4: especially in this draft class of all draft classes, because
Speaker 4: I think if you're not in that top four picks, ish,
Speaker 4: this is a very very thin draft at the top.
Speaker 4: There's not a lot of great top end talent. This
Speaker 4: is really like a mid round. People call it a
Speaker 4: meat potatoes draft, and you're gonna build death guys. There's
Speaker 4: not a lot of top end quality starters, which is
Speaker 4: why I think my landing spot for the Jets most
Speaker 4: recently has been Missouri off the tackle arm on Membo
Speaker 4: for a while, and I expect him to be there
Speaker 4: at seven with the way I expect the top six
Speaker 4: to fall, and I know my other thought probably would
Speaker 4: be Tyler Warren or Shimar Stewart, and edge is nearly
Speaker 4: as big as a need, and the production or the
Speaker 4: lack of production, I should say, kind of scares people
Speaker 4: with Shimar Stewart, and I get that, but I think
Speaker 4: the athleticism, you know that that's something that the NFL
Speaker 4: teams really value, and I think i'd be surprised to
Speaker 4: him fall out of the top ten come draft time.
Speaker 4: And with Tyler Warren, I know there's a big need
Speaker 4: a tight end. I think this is a deep tight
Speaker 4: end class and I'm not quite as high on Tyler
Speaker 4: Warren as some people are. I understand the appeal here
Speaker 4: because he had some Penn State offense pretty much ran
Speaker 4: solely through him, and he's you know, got the highest
Speaker 4: blocking ceiling right. There were probably Jackson Halls in this class.
Speaker 4: He has a very clear path to being a true
Speaker 4: inline wide tight end guy, you know, very good at
Speaker 4: the catchpoint. But I'm kind of anti tight end in
Speaker 4: the top ten unless you're taking Rock Bowers, which I
Speaker 4: am under the belief that Tyler Warren is not of
Speaker 4: that that level as a prospect. Okay, and I think
Speaker 4: Membo is one of the He's a borderline top five
Speaker 4: player in this class and pretty clearly solidified himself as
Speaker 4: the top offensive tackle in my eyes. I really like
Speaker 4: Josh Simmons, but there's medical stuff, there's characters there, so
Speaker 4: he started to float down. So for me, and I know,
Speaker 4: it's you know, it's not the most exciting pick to
Speaker 4: go back to back off of the tackles in the
Speaker 4: top ten. No, no fans, you know, you want your
Speaker 4: your skill positions, your flashy picks. But I really don't
Speaker 4: think the value can be overstated of locking down two
Speaker 4: offensive tackles on two guys on a rookie contract. I
Speaker 4: mean you're locking down to his most important spots on
Speaker 4: your offense for probably the next decade between ol Fashanu
Speaker 4: and Mimbo. That's an invaluable base to build off of
Speaker 4: for your offense.
Speaker 1: Okay, before we officially locked that pick in, a lot
Speaker 1: of the names you've mentioned have been swimming around in
Speaker 1: jets waters right armand men who Tyler Warren. Those have
Speaker 1: been Mason Graham if and when he's available in certain classes,
Speaker 1: there's been a lot of Jet fans us circling through mockcrafts.
Speaker 1: The name that you said that we have not often
Speaker 1: had in the mockcrafts. So I think it's great to
Speaker 1: talk about it in this exercise, especially with how high
Speaker 1: you are on him. Uh, one of those million Texas
Speaker 1: A and M defenders down there. You you are high
Speaker 1: on Shamar and you already mentioned the criticism that goes
Speaker 1: against him all the time, right because fans love sex.
Speaker 1: Thing is right, sexy stats and things of this is
Speaker 1: what the hell? How many sex are going on here?
Speaker 1: So give us give us the Chamar story, give us
Speaker 1: your scouting report on him, because, like I said, that's
Speaker 1: what I would assume from Jet fans. He obviously you're
Speaker 1: you're going a different director of the pick, which we'll
Speaker 1: get back to in a minute. But on Shamar, specifically.
Speaker 1: That's interesting because, like I would imagine the ultimate the
Speaker 1: first thing people do, let me do a quick goog
Speaker 1: search on whoever the hell this guy is, and they're like,
Speaker 1: what the hell look at these sex so plea.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you see that that like four and a half
Speaker 4: sack number in his career or whatever it was a
Speaker 4: college and that that really scares you. It makes you
Speaker 4: jump when you turn on the tape with Texas A
Speaker 4: and M. Texas A and M has a unique talent
Speaker 4: to just kill defensive linemen's production. That that defensive line
Speaker 4: probably has four guys that are all going to be
Speaker 4: top one hundred draft picks. I think cash is Howell
Speaker 4: the one guy who's not drafted. Itible probably gonna be
Speaker 4: a high pick next year. And it's the scheme the
Speaker 4: way Mikelko's defense works. Those guys are just not in
Speaker 4: there that they're not going to put in a position
Speaker 4: to really rack up stack numbers. But I think she
Speaker 4: Mar Stewart probably got the worst of all of it
Speaker 4: because he was playing that kind of four I five
Speaker 4: tech role where he was rushing on the interior much
Speaker 4: more than he was on the edge. He was more
Speaker 4: playing as a run defender and a contained defender, so
Speaker 4: he wasn't just a pin your ears back, you know,
Speaker 4: rush the quarterback type guy. And on top of that,
Speaker 4: he does need to finish the sacks better. I'll say
Speaker 4: that for sure. There are a lot of missed opportunities
Speaker 4: where he could have got those set numbers up, and
Speaker 4: that's something he needs to work on. I think he's
Speaker 4: very very raw as as a pass rusher, which I
Speaker 4: think is not a secret to anybody, but I mean
Speaker 4: this is a borderline generation lifebouticism at the position that
Speaker 4: we have not seen a guy that at two hundred
Speaker 4: and eighty pounds that bends. I use the certain motorcycle lean.
Speaker 4: Usually for guys that bend like he does, they can
Speaker 4: kind of corner like a motorcycle around around the edge,
Speaker 4: and guys don't do that at two hundred eighty pounds
Speaker 4: like he does. The short area of quickness, you've already
Speaker 4: got a very high floor as a run defender. I
Speaker 4: think this guy is an NFL ready run defender. He's
Speaker 4: going to be a lot for your first two downs
Speaker 4: as a player. Whenever he gets drafted. He's going to
Speaker 4: completely shut down one end to the defensive line in
Speaker 4: the run game, So I think he I know the
Speaker 4: production scares a lot of people, but when you again
Speaker 4: very raw, I doesn't know how to use his hands,
Speaker 4: really needs to be coached up as a past rushing plan.
Speaker 4: But the tools you have to work with there do
Speaker 4: not come around often in the NFL really really values
Speaker 4: those athletic tools. So I think that's probably a guy
Speaker 4: that's going to go a lot higher than the production
Speaker 4: numbers would would indicate.
Speaker 1: Fair enough, I appreciate the take. Now I see a
Speaker 1: bunch of people saying, oh, I want to call in.
Speaker 1: I want to call in people. Drew will take your
Speaker 1: wonderful calls, and I'm sure you want to catch him
Speaker 1: on his great nets and everything else. I'm sure you
Speaker 1: want to call about That'll be in the second half
Speaker 1: of the show. So Drew will be joining us, and
Speaker 1: he'll be with us for all of these full shows
Speaker 1: outside of another situation popping up in the future. So
Speaker 1: he plans on being here for these full shows. Of people,
Speaker 1: you want to call in and debate, Apparently, as I
Speaker 1: see some of you want to do about different things,
Speaker 1: feel free to do that. You guys could do that
Speaker 1: at the end of the show, So stay tuned for
Speaker 1: that one quick follow up before we lock in this pick. Here,
Speaker 1: r and r ass this, who are you taking if
Speaker 1: the Patriots take armand Membu Because that's the fear for me.
Speaker 1: I again, I love armand Membo and we're about the
Speaker 1: lock that pick and that's going to be great and
Speaker 1: plug and play. My fear is if the draft goes
Speaker 1: a certain type of way. Camoard goes number one, Okay,
Speaker 1: Abdil Carter Travis Hunter both go off the board before
Speaker 1: the Patriots, and then what do the Patriots do? Now
Speaker 1: my gut says they take armand Memboo, And I'm like,
Speaker 1: son of a then what do we do? So in
Speaker 1: that scenario, Memboo's off the board, New England takes him.
Speaker 1: What are we doing at seven? Are just pivoting to
Speaker 1: like a a Will Campbell or is there something else
Speaker 1: in your mind?
Speaker 4: See, I'm somebody it's a lot lower on Will Campbell,
Speaker 4: and I do think he's a guard, So he's not
Speaker 4: somebody I would take to put in that whole. That's
Speaker 4: that's a good question. I am operating under the From
Speaker 4: what I've heard, I'm pretty confident the Browns would go.
Speaker 4: And then I think probably goes Travis Hunter three Abdo
Speaker 4: Carter for Mason Graham than asking genty. But you know,
Speaker 4: things fall differently on draft night all the time, and
Speaker 4: there's a very good chance that Membo could go before seven.
Speaker 4: Uh And in that scenario, I know I did just
Speaker 4: kind of talk now on Tyler Warren, but I think
Speaker 4: he is still a great fit in New York, and
Speaker 4: I think he could be the next guy up. I
Speaker 4: think he he kind of you know, I know you
Speaker 4: already have Tyler Cochlan and Jeremy Ruckert who plays kind
Speaker 4: of those they got they kind of swapped tight ends
Speaker 4: and they got.
Speaker 1: Snow Stone smart right, smart right.
Speaker 4: But you know those are more depth, like you know,
Speaker 4: the second guy in twelve personnel tight ends, and I
Speaker 4: think Tyler Warren's guy can come in and do kind
Speaker 4: of everything. So he's probably the guy I would pivot
Speaker 4: to pivot to excuse me, because I think he's just
Speaker 4: a very well rounded tight end and I think his
Speaker 4: ceiling is pretty high if he's not the greatest athlete
Speaker 4: in the world. So I don't think it's maybe a
Speaker 4: little bit of a reach on my board, but I
Speaker 4: don't think, especially with what I was talking about how
Speaker 4: thin the top of this class is. I think you're
Speaker 4: kind of blurring the lines a lot. Once those top
Speaker 4: five guys go.
Speaker 1: Fair enough, good question, R and R. So let's hit
Speaker 1: the chimes. Baby will the pick the armand Membu the
Speaker 1: Missouri offensive tackle.
Speaker 4: Yep, there we go.
Speaker 1: There you go, Arma Membu, you are the pick. You're
Speaker 1: officially a member of the New York Jets with the
Speaker 1: seventh overall pick. We're now jumping down to the second round.
Speaker 1: The Jets have the forty second overall pick. You're in
Speaker 1: the second round again. In the first round, we went
Speaker 1: offensive tackle, Arma Membu at a Missouri So now where
Speaker 1: where do immediately do you want to look around with
Speaker 1: the forty second overall pick?
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is where it gets where it gets harder,
Speaker 4: you know, because you've got a lot of a lot
Speaker 4: of places you can die down to. There are guys
Speaker 4: that fall that may not be the biggest positional need
Speaker 4: that the talent makes you want to kind of die
Speaker 4: away from the original draft plan. Like zever wats the
Speaker 4: first guy that jumped out to me. That's a guy
Speaker 4: I've heard mentioned to the Jets a couple of times.
Speaker 4: He's been connected a little bit yeah, just just here
Speaker 4: in rumors, don't know if any of that is is confirmed,
Speaker 4: but in safety is still a sneak you need, you know,
Speaker 4: it's not like it's not maybe not quite as big
Speaker 4: as a as a wide receiver or a tight end.
Speaker 4: But I think that that's a great fit. Get a
Speaker 4: Rangey Ballocks safety and Xavier Watts. You can also look
Speaker 4: at I would say, what the how the defensive line
Speaker 4: board is falling?
Speaker 1: We could yeah, sure, yeah, of course, yeah, yeah, let's uh,
Speaker 1: let's take a gander there. That's a that's a position
Speaker 1: that will rev up the fans that we're throwing over there.
Speaker 1: So yeah, let's go interior. D woh hey, now yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you Shamark Turner, who's available at this point. So yeah, here,
Speaker 1: here's a bunch of players that are available.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Now with what they've added in Freeta. So you've
Speaker 4: got a lot of big body run defenders they've added.
Speaker 4: You've got Quinn Williams, who you know, it's kind of
Speaker 4: a kind of a hybrid. He's got some past rush impacts,
Speaker 4: but he's also good run to thing. So I think
Speaker 4: you kind of need a pass rush specialist here to
Speaker 4: add next to him. Get some juice in there. First
Speaker 4: guy that pops out to me is a more Norman lot,
Speaker 4: but I think there is, you know, some major medical concerns.
Speaker 4: I think it was a back for a knee that
Speaker 4: just popped up. That something pretty concerning. There's also character
Speaker 4: stuff floating around with him. So the way this sport
Speaker 4: is fall I don't I like out for Collins, but
Speaker 4: he's not gonna add in the type of defensive lineman
Speaker 4: that New York needs, so I would probably move away
Speaker 4: from this and address that a little bit later in
Speaker 4: this draft. I would check out the receiver board too,
Speaker 4: maybe the tight ends. We'll see, do we feel about that.
Speaker 4: Jaden Higgins is another guy who I've seen floating around
Speaker 4: a little bit for New York, and I think he
Speaker 4: would pair very very well with Garrett Wilson. Their skill
Speaker 4: sets with compliment each other nicely. I think Higgins Higgins
Speaker 4: could be a big slot guy. And know a lot
Speaker 4: of people kind of they see that big body, that
Speaker 4: six y three two ten plus pound frame and kind
Speaker 4: of automatically put him is that X type receiver on
Speaker 4: the outside. But I think this is a guy that
Speaker 4: could work much better as a big slot receiver. I
Speaker 4: don't think his press man reps have gone on particularly
Speaker 4: well in college. But I think guys that are are
Speaker 4: that twitchy and that flexible at a six three and
Speaker 4: move as well as he does in the shorts intermediate
Speaker 4: level are pretty rare. He sinks his hips and stops
Speaker 4: on a dime extremely well on come back rounds to
Speaker 4: stop routes. For his size, he's a good separator for
Speaker 4: his size. I wish he played a little bit more
Speaker 4: physical at the catch point, but the athleticism and the
Speaker 4: size blend, you know, had like a crazy high RS
Speaker 4: things like nine eight somewhere in there. Wow, So I
Speaker 4: think that has absolutely in play. Seeger Watson is the
Speaker 4: one I keep coming back to.
Speaker 1: I don't He's the value of the line, first.
Speaker 4: Round safety, and I think he's a great fit in
Speaker 4: Aaron Glenn's defense that I'm timpted to pull between him
Speaker 4: and Jaden Higgins.
Speaker 1: Okay, real quick, though, let me just again. You talked
Speaker 1: about it earlier, but it's it's pff, hashim available here
Speaker 1: is all the Shader Sanders slipping stuff crap. Because we've
Speaker 1: heard a little bit of everything. He could go second
Speaker 1: overall sort of to what you just said. And then
Speaker 1: there's been other bills that a completely out of the
Speaker 1: first round. What's the truth on Shuder Sanders uh.
Speaker 4: To everything that I've heard now? Now, if you're going
Speaker 4: off on my board, personally, I have Sudar as a
Speaker 4: early third round grade. So he is not a guy
Speaker 4: that I would take that high. But I've been somebody
Speaker 4: that's pretty openly low on him throughout this whole process.
Speaker 4: I if I had to put money on it right now,
Speaker 4: I would say that he goes it to to Cleveland.
Speaker 4: I think they've pretty openly telegraphed that they haven't added anything.
Speaker 4: I think Deshaun Watson has taken his last snap in Cleveland.
Speaker 4: He fits the Kevin Stefanski system very very well. They've
Speaker 4: added their quarterback coach who has deep connections with Dion
Speaker 4: and in the past, so I think that happens. I
Speaker 4: don't think they're going to go Carter, but if he
Speaker 4: doesn't go it too, that's where the slip comes in.
Speaker 4: The Giants could pull the trigger. But honestly, I think
Speaker 4: after Russell Wilson signing, they're probably out of the QB
Speaker 4: market this year. I don't see him adding a third
Speaker 4: guy into that room. So if he doesn't go it too,
Speaker 4: I mean, there's he can slide all the way to
Speaker 4: the twenties theory unless somebody trades up. I would understand
Speaker 4: he's a weird prospect to talk about in this class.
Speaker 4: It's it's a it's an interesting debate. But I if
Speaker 4: I had to guess right now, I'd still say he
Speaker 4: goes in the top two.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you're down to it. You know, I can
Speaker 1: see what the fans would pick if we went to
Speaker 1: the fans, which when your two problet uh, yes it is,
Speaker 1: they find it more attractive. But I will be honest,
Speaker 1: the Jets need a safety. They have Andre Cisco starting
Speaker 1: at one of the safety spots they just brought in
Speaker 1: my Syracuse boy.
Speaker 4: I love and I really like Andre Cisco, and they
Speaker 4: compliment each other well. Because Cisco is a really big,
Speaker 4: physical box safety. That that's the role he really excels in.
Speaker 4: As Lener Watson kind of the opposite. He's your your
Speaker 4: protecifical free safety. He's gotta so rangy, he covers so
Speaker 4: much of that backfield, great ball skills, looks like a
Speaker 4: receiver in the in the backfield, and he's you know,
Speaker 4: just just a very rangy ballhawk safety so interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because Cisco has had some of that ball hawking
Speaker 1: stuff too in his career, which has been fun. So
Speaker 1: the ability to play both would be interesting. So is
Speaker 1: if it was up to you, are you going Xavier
Speaker 1: watch over Higgins? Hey, you're the man, I know, and
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't want to disappoint the chat my first time
Speaker 4: on here. But as much as the the the athleticism
Speaker 4: is in enticing with Higgins, I think Wats is a
Speaker 4: pretty significantly higher player on my board, and I really
Speaker 4: like to fit for New York, so I probably go there.
Speaker 1: Okay, you're the boss, so hit those times. Baby. It's
Speaker 1: like safety. Xavier Wats had a Notre Dame. Baby, Hey,
Speaker 1: my father will be very happy. Is a die hard
Speaker 1: Notre Dames appreciates that. There we go, There you go,
Speaker 1: pop right him on the board, and that's going to
Speaker 1: eventually bring us to the seventy third overall pick here
Speaker 1: for the New York Jets in this mock draft scenario.
Speaker 1: Depending on technical difficulties, guys, I those all right here
Speaker 1: we get Also back to the the Mason.
Speaker 4: I don't think I've addressed the Mason. Graham.
Speaker 1: Yeah, please he slipped down.
Speaker 4: I think if he slips down, that's a card you
Speaker 4: spread up to the podium. I think he's my third
Speaker 4: or fourth player on my big ward right now. I
Speaker 4: think he would the past rush ability that he has,
Speaker 4: adding that next to Quinn Williams, and that interior would
Speaker 4: be would be a really freaky front between him and
Speaker 4: will McDonald. On the end in Quinn Williams, that's a
Speaker 4: very very stark pass rushing front. I struggle to see
Speaker 4: a world where he falls with seven. But I don't
Speaker 4: think that in a question. But if he's there, I think
Speaker 4: that's absolutely the big that's a home run.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you real quick on that. As
Speaker 1: we're working on some technical difficulties here behind the scenes.
Speaker 1: I'm curious on Mason Graham. I've heard some people say
Speaker 1: that he is too like Quentin Williams and thus they
Speaker 1: wouldn't be a good fit. What do you say to
Speaker 1: those detractors?
Speaker 4: I understand. I think the whole redundancy factor of like,
Speaker 4: especially in receiver rooms, people hate like adding in the
Speaker 4: same like arch type of receiver. I think I understand
Speaker 4: the kind of scare factor of redundancy, but I think
Speaker 4: a lot of people can talk themselves out of really
Speaker 4: really talented players in the in the face of redundancy.
Speaker 4: And I think especially when you've added as many big
Speaker 4: body run stoppers as they have into that rotation in
Speaker 4: free agency, adding in a guy with the pass rush
Speaker 4: steeling of Mason Graham, even if he's a similar architype
Speaker 4: to Quentin Williams, I don't think you let that let
Speaker 4: that talk you out of what are the three blue
Speaker 4: shit players in this class.
Speaker 1: In my opinion fair enough. And I love that because,
Speaker 1: like I said, I think sometimes we can get too
Speaker 1: cute with some of that kind of stuff and then
Speaker 1: you missed out on the player that should be coming. Okay,
Speaker 1: technical difficulties aside. Thank you Pro Football Focus for your
Speaker 1: contributions to this program. All right, we continue our draft
Speaker 1: to get in the first round we had arma member
Speaker 1: the Offitt Stack Uorder Missouri, and then in the second
Speaker 1: round safety Xavier Watts out of Notre Dame. Baby. Okay,
Speaker 1: now we pick in the third round, which again it's
Speaker 1: still wild to me. I don't know if you. I'm
Speaker 1: sure you must have heard this story, Drew that the
Speaker 1: Jets stopped it or we as fans not anyway, they
Speaker 1: were picking the ninety two there time, and then randomly
Speaker 1: after Devanta Adams trade that pick being traded for Gino Smith,
Speaker 1: we find out, oh, actually, you guys pick at seventy three.
Speaker 1: We're like, what the hell? So is it changed a
Speaker 1: lot of our mock drafts. First off, well, you know,
Speaker 1: we we've beaten that one to death, so it's just
Speaker 1: crazy that we have the seventy third overall pick. Now. AnyWho,
Speaker 1: So now we have the seventy third overall pick here
Speaker 1: in the third round. Do you've addressed a variety of
Speaker 1: positions so far? Here? Where? Immediately? Do you look here
Speaker 1: in round three?
Speaker 4: So here at round three, it's got to be either
Speaker 4: pass catcher or interior densive line. I think my first
Speaker 4: in sect is go pass catcher. I see Mason Taylor
Speaker 4: there on the board.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'll go back to Titan.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and my one question is he there? Because I
Speaker 4: think this is a guy that has been talked about
Speaker 4: in the round two conversation a lot.
Speaker 1: That's what I heard from Jordan Reid. Right, So I
Speaker 1: was just reading a piece. You know, I love those
Speaker 1: draft buzz pieces where all the panelists just sort of
Speaker 1: spell their notebooks out, and he said Jordan Reid ESPN
Speaker 1: NFL Draft Feler, I said, man forty two would be
Speaker 1: a great spot for Mason Taylor, and like, holy crap man,
Speaker 1: the stock is like Skyrockett and apparently for Mason Taylor.
Speaker 1: So you're hearing that as well. So it sounds like
Speaker 1: he's more second round and won't be available here in
Speaker 1: round three.
Speaker 4: I am, But actually I have Gunner Helm and Terrence Ferguson,
Speaker 4: both both those tight ends higher than Mason Taylor on
Speaker 4: my board. I think is a little bit rich for
Speaker 4: my blood with Mason Taylor. And like we were talking
Speaker 4: about the value conversation earlier, he can get a guy
Speaker 4: like like Gunner Helmer Terrence Ferguson in the third round
Speaker 4: compared to Mason Taylor in the second, I think that's
Speaker 4: outstanding value. I think both of those guys are have
Speaker 4: very high steelings as blockers, especially Terrence Ferguson. He might
Speaker 4: be one of the best blockers in this whole class.
Speaker 4: I think that's a good tight end group. I also
Speaker 4: I think there's a chance that are really good Titan
Speaker 4: slipping the top of the fourth as well. Without teachers,
Speaker 4: tight end classes it's it's one of the deeper positions
Speaker 4: in this group. I did see Jalen Noel or Jaylen Nole.
Speaker 4: I think how you pronounced it? Yeah, which is another
Speaker 4: guy I struggled to see is there? But he is
Speaker 4: a second round aid for me in a pretty early
Speaker 4: one at that. He is one of my favorite players
Speaker 4: in his whole draft class. I see this receiver board.
Speaker 4: That group right there between Noel Royals and sabe On
Speaker 4: Williams is really really intriguing. Say On Williams is a
Speaker 4: guy I'm sure I could spend a whole podcast on
Speaker 4: him because there's been a lot of conflict around him
Speaker 4: in my my takes with him throughout this whole draft cycle.
Speaker 4: He's my wide receiver five. He's an early second round
Speaker 4: grade for me. I've been probably the highest I've seen
Speaker 4: on him, and I know a lot of people do
Speaker 4: not agree with that. I think this is another range
Speaker 4: he goes in. I think like Noel would be the
Speaker 4: pick here, but I think he's probably its top fifty guy.
Speaker 4: I think there's a chance no slipped the back in
Speaker 4: the first.
Speaker 1: Here's And I just want to say this because I
Speaker 1: hope you say this for every round again. This is
Speaker 1: why your expertise are such an addition, right, because we
Speaker 1: do the mock god oh a plus grades everywhere, and
Speaker 1: then you bring in and say, come on, guys, the
Speaker 1: latest stock. I'm here because this guy's that this pick
Speaker 1: or this pick or this pick, and that's that's to
Speaker 1: me terrific. It's good to know that info because, like
Speaker 1: I think, a lot of us boobs at home have
Speaker 1: no friggin idea what the proper stock is. So it's
Speaker 1: good to hear whether or not a guy is realistic
Speaker 1: or not. Because hearing that after you post the mock
Speaker 1: draft after the fact, you know, it loses some of
Speaker 1: the jews. So we want it to be as realistic
Speaker 1: as possible, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, And I think and there's always surprises on
Speaker 4: draft night, you know this is all these are all
Speaker 4: educated guesses. None of this is an exact science, but
Speaker 4: you do have a general outline for how but how
Speaker 4: the board is gonna a general thought about how the
Speaker 4: board is gonna fall. And Noel has been a crazy
Speaker 4: riser ever since the combine, and you tested out of
Speaker 4: this world, and I think that's the guy that's gonna
Speaker 4: go way way higher than people think so as as
Speaker 4: much as he would be a clear pick for me here,
Speaker 4: I don't think there's a chance he's there in the seventies.
Speaker 4: And the guy I'm looking at his Jalen Royals. I'll
Speaker 4: say the City on Williams debates because I know people
Speaker 4: are gonna hate that, and I do question. You know
Speaker 4: he's gonna get label as a gadget guy, much like
Speaker 4: Malachi Corley that they drafted last year. So I'll see
Speaker 4: the redundancy debates there. And Jaln Royle is the guy
Speaker 4: that pops out to me here. This is about the
Speaker 4: range I have him in, and I think there is
Speaker 4: a chance he's probably limited to the slot because I
Speaker 4: don't think he handles physicality all that well with the
Speaker 4: line of scrimmage and at the top of the stems.
Speaker 4: But I think this guy's a good separator. He's a great
Speaker 4: athlete and after the catch he is outstanding right up
Speaker 4: there with with Sadie and Williams and like Luther Burden
Speaker 4: for the best in his class. With the ball in
Speaker 4: his hands, this guy is a is a home run
Speaker 4: threat one hundred percent of the time when he has
Speaker 4: the ball in his hands, so elusive the contact balance.
Speaker 4: He plays low to the ground with the ball in
Speaker 4: his hands. He's a real threat to an offense here.
Speaker 4: And so I think it's it's really between tight end
Speaker 4: the receiver here.
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 4: I love Gunner Hilm, I love Terence Ferguson, and I
Speaker 4: like Dealing roy Those are all great fits here.
Speaker 1: I think we're swimming in the right water. So again,
Speaker 1: any of those that doesn't sound think he could go wrong.
Speaker 1: But how much you spoken about the depth of the
Speaker 1: tight end class, I almost feel like getting frisky and saying,
Speaker 1: who's who's going to be available in the fourth round?
Speaker 1: Tow to everything that you're saying, that maybe you could
Speaker 1: get away with avoiding the tight end now and hopefully
Speaker 1: you know, doing every rain dance possible to see if
Speaker 1: at the top of the fourth you have a gift
Speaker 1: under the Christmas tree.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that that's that's the conversation is just
Speaker 4: which guy are you willing to pass on? Which one
Speaker 4: can you settle on? Ongoing your your your early day
Speaker 4: three route. And my gut is telling me Jalen Royals
Speaker 4: right here and send that receiver pick in and address
Speaker 4: defensive line and tight end on day three where there's
Speaker 4: some some better depth, as there are probably two of
Speaker 4: the top three or four deepest positions in this class.
Speaker 4: In the receiver class, it's pretty deep, But overall, I
Speaker 4: don't think it's it's the best we've seen over recent years.
Speaker 4: It's it's a pretty mid level, if not a little
Speaker 4: bit lower. So I think the talent drops off pretty quickly.
Speaker 4: And I think as far as late round three receiver
Speaker 4: boards go, it fell pretty well right here, so I
Speaker 4: would take advantage of that with with Royals right here.
Speaker 1: Here we go overall. Picking the third round, the New
Speaker 1: York Jets select Utah state wide receiver Jalen Royals Baby,
Speaker 1: add him to the pile for the New York Jets. Beautiful.
Speaker 1: Now we jump over to the fourth round. In the
Speaker 1: fifth and sixth that just have a bonus pix thanks
Speaker 1: to the Mike Williams Straight and me Cole Hardman trades
Speaker 1: and yesteryear, they do not have a seventh round draft choice.
Speaker 1: So now we jump over to the fourth round. This
Speaker 1: is pick one ten. Overall, Where are we going baby?
Speaker 1: Tight end?
Speaker 4: Uh? Yeah, either tight end or in here devisive line.
Speaker 4: I expect to go tight end here, but if a
Speaker 4: des A lineman really really falls that I don't think
Speaker 4: I can pass on. I'll see there. Gouver Helm's the
Speaker 4: guy that screams at me? Again, does he fall to
Speaker 4: one ten?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 4: Again, there was an injury at the combine, tested really poorly,
Speaker 4: had that really brutal an ankle livery during the forty,
Speaker 4: So I would not say it's out of the question
Speaker 4: the defaults here all that much. Yeah, I think that's
Speaker 4: that's definitely within question. Okay, So we'll check out that
Speaker 4: defensive tackle board and see if there's anybody that just
Speaker 4: really screams at me. But Gunner Helms seems like the
Speaker 4: guy right there.
Speaker 1: Okay, But I love it being open, Okay.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Peebles is really really fun. I think I've got
Speaker 4: like a late second or early third round greade on
Speaker 4: him tomorrow. Coles that I absolutely love. When you look
Speaker 4: at Jamori Caldwell, you know he's that three hundred and
Speaker 4: thirty pound nose tackles. You think like he's too similar
Speaker 4: to the guys you add in free agency. You know,
Speaker 4: he's very redundant. It's just a you know, he's just
Speaker 4: gonna be a a body there to stop the run.
Speaker 4: But Jamory Caldwell, there is springs in that guy's ankles
Speaker 4: at three hundred and thirty pounds. I mean he bounces
Speaker 4: around like he's on skates. I don't understand how you
Speaker 4: move like he does at three almost three hundred and
Speaker 4: fifty pounds or whatever. He's he's playing weight was at Oregon,
Speaker 4: but he's he's one of the better pass rushing those
Speaker 4: tackles than this whole class. At three hundred and thirty pounds.
Speaker 4: He's got a very deep pass rushing back. He wins
Speaker 4: with speed a lot more than you would think for
Speaker 4: a guy that that heavy. So he I think he's
Speaker 4: another guy that slips into the day two conversation that
Speaker 4: people are not expecting, and these people's he's like, you know,
Speaker 4: I guts to interview him. At the Senior Bowl. He's
Speaker 4: not actually but tap, but hype wise, I was pretty
Speaker 4: eye level with him. It's weird out. There was like
Speaker 4: three of me stacked and I'm like that eye level
Speaker 4: with this guy. But you watch him play at like
Speaker 4: six one and two hundred and seventy or two and
Speaker 4: eighty pounds, he's very very small for a deep's tackle
Speaker 4: with three tech, but he plays so much bigger than
Speaker 4: he is. He automatically wins the leverage battle and these
Speaker 4: guys because he's eight inches shorter than everybody else, so
Speaker 4: he gets under their pad level before they can do anything.
Speaker 4: And he's just throwing you know, guys that are eight
Speaker 4: inches and thirty pounds taller than he is, bigger than
Speaker 4: he is, around like they're nothing. His past rush ability
Speaker 4: at that size that he is is pretty special. I
Speaker 4: think I would say it's out of the question. He
Speaker 4: falls out of the fourth So for me, this is
Speaker 4: between people's Caldwell and Helm, And as much as I
Speaker 4: love those two defensive linemen, I don't think I can
Speaker 4: pass on Gunner Heelm right here with how the tight
Speaker 4: end is and how how much of a cliff there
Speaker 4: is after Gunnerhelm. I think between Gunner Helm and Terrence Ferguson,
Speaker 4: I think one of them is probably there at this point,
Speaker 4: so I don't think that's out of the question.
Speaker 1: All right, let me ask you one more because I
Speaker 1: saw it asked in the chat here. A popular name
Speaker 1: in jets Land has been Harold Fan and Junior the
Speaker 1: China at a bowling Green. Yeah, you haven't mentioned him
Speaker 1: at all? Do you hate his guts? What's going on?
Speaker 1: There there a.
Speaker 4: Kind of actually at a it's been a guy that
Speaker 4: I have tried to avoid talking about on podcasts as
Speaker 4: much as I can, because if I don't have anything
Speaker 4: nice to say. I tried not to talk down on
Speaker 4: these guys. And in the fourth I don't hate the shot.
Speaker 4: I think I've got a fifth round Greene on him,
Speaker 4: So it's not that much of a reach on my board.
Speaker 4: But to me, I think if you're going to be
Speaker 4: especially I think the Jets mean an inline guy, somebody
Speaker 4: can play three down in line white, and that's not
Speaker 4: to me. If you're gonna be a two hundred and
Speaker 4: thirty five, two hundred and forty pound tight end, you
Speaker 4: have to move like brock Bowers or move you know,
Speaker 4: you have to move like a slot receiver if you're
Speaker 4: gonna play spot receiver. And I just don't think Harold
Speaker 4: Finnon moves like that. I think he's he's actually one
Speaker 4: of the more unathletic tight ends in this whole group.
Speaker 4: I'll also being probably the smallest, which is not an
Speaker 4: NFL combination. Typically small and slow is not what you're
Speaker 4: hoping to get in a skill set. Now, I know
Speaker 4: he was historically productive, you know, one of the best
Speaker 4: tight end seasons, if not the best, in colleforotable history.
Speaker 4: And I understand that. But my personal position as a
Speaker 4: draft analyst is I throw production out the window that
Speaker 4: is not factor, and then my great scale with all
Speaker 4: production stats don't dream a whole lot to me because
Speaker 4: I think they have a severe lack of context. And
Speaker 4: I think when you watch the tape, it kind of
Speaker 4: shows you the whole story. And with Harold Fannin, I
Speaker 4: just I don't think he moves anywhere near well enough
Speaker 4: to justify his size. I think this is more of
Speaker 4: a guy that's gonna play power slot h back role
Speaker 4: than it's true in line tight end, and I don't
Speaker 4: think he's quite the level of separator and athlete that
Speaker 4: you need to play in that position. So compared to
Speaker 4: guys like like Gunner Helm and Mitchell Evans, I think
Speaker 4: that I would I would certainly lean those two, especially
Speaker 4: for the rule the Jets need. But I know the
Speaker 4: eighteen hundred yards or whatever he put up is very
Speaker 4: enticing to certain people.
Speaker 1: By the way, I love that. Soone asked about fan
Speaker 1: and so we could get that take from Drewe terrific,
Speaker 1: all right, So it sounds like the pick is we
Speaker 1: gonna hit him. It sounds like you're a gunner Helm
Speaker 1: tight end at of Texas guy.
Speaker 4: He is, he's my tight end four, so like a
Speaker 4: third round grade. So this is this is a great
Speaker 4: value for him here.
Speaker 1: Okay, there you go, gunner Helm. The Texas tight end
Speaker 1: is to pick in the fourth round for the New
Speaker 1: York Jets. And I'm glad that you brought that up
Speaker 1: about the ankle, because I saw the picture after he
Speaker 1: like turned his ankle before the forty yard dads or
Speaker 1: like he had like a false start, had to go back.
Speaker 1: They powered through into the entire workout, like man. That
Speaker 1: shows some That shows some guts, That shows some hutspud
Speaker 1: that he was willing to power through after all that,
Speaker 1: because a lot of people would have just checked out.
Speaker 1: We see that all the time.
Speaker 4: In the He's very similar to to Zeber Resreppo, Miami's
Speaker 4: receiver at his pro day. You see guys that get
Speaker 4: hurt right before and they play through it anyways, and
Speaker 4: then you see like Restrepo's case, it was a four
Speaker 4: eight and then Gunnery Heilmer in like a four nine three,
Speaker 4: and you see those horrible forty times everybody freaks out,
Speaker 4: but I think when you when those injuries come out afterwards,
Speaker 4: it really kind of boosts them because you see that
Speaker 4: grit and the competitiveness to want to test through those injuries.
Speaker 4: And another guy, I'll go ahead and mention, which is
Speaker 4: kind of the opposite of what we've been talking about.
Speaker 4: A guy that could be there at one ten that
Speaker 4: PFF didn't have falling is a guy from Miami, Elijah Royal,
Speaker 4: tight end out of there who he is a top
Speaker 4: fifty player on my board, uh, just based off tape.
Speaker 4: I think he's an outstanding receiver of my tight end three.
Speaker 4: I've got like a mid second round great on him.
Speaker 4: But the knee injuries have been a plague with him.
Speaker 4: He only played one healthy season in college and then
Speaker 4: he went and had another knee injury at the Stenia Bowl.
Speaker 4: Or he had a great week, just unfortunately got hurt
Speaker 4: there at the very end. And I think because of
Speaker 4: those injuries, despite you know, again being a top fifty player,
Speaker 4: just purely based on tape, the injuries and the lack
Speaker 4: of production outside of his one season with cam Ward
Speaker 4: could really see him fall. I don't know if he
Speaker 4: falls out of the top one hundred, but I wouldn't
Speaker 4: say it's out of the question. And even with the
Speaker 4: injury risks, if Elijah Royo is there at one ten, uh,
Speaker 4: I think that's a guy you you sprint up to
Speaker 4: the podium. I think he is outstanding. I know the
Speaker 4: knee injuries are scary, but I think you know you're
Speaker 4: just you're you're weighing you know, risk and reward there,
Speaker 4: and I think Arroyo has a an incredibly high ceiling.
Speaker 4: I think he's a pretty rare athlete for the tight
Speaker 4: end position. You don't see guys with the long speed
Speaker 4: that he has almost ever in tight ends. I think
Speaker 4: he's one of the better blockers in this whole class,
Speaker 4: a very natural separator, his hands, his hands catcher, he
Speaker 4: extends at the catch point. So I'm not saying he
Speaker 4: will be there by any means, but I think he's
Speaker 4: one of the guys we could see slip on draft night,
Speaker 4: and it would surprised some people because the league is
Speaker 4: pretty scared of the knee injury. But yeah, if he's there, yeah,
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say that's out of the rum fossibility at all.
Speaker 1: Well, it's good to hear because he's been a popular pick.
Speaker 1: To your point, with everything that you've heard, I've seen
Speaker 1: him frequently inside the top fifty in mock draft scenarios.
Speaker 1: But again, mock draft scenarios and actual scenarios don't always
Speaker 1: end up coexisting together there for obvious reasons, So that's
Speaker 1: kind of curious. Also, let me ask you, is there
Speaker 1: anyone else that the public i'll say, for lack of
Speaker 1: a better word, is higher on than where you believe
Speaker 1: someone will be drafted, Like, we'll be surprised to see
Speaker 1: that insert player ended up falling further than we thought.
Speaker 1: Who would that?
Speaker 4: That's an interesting one because there's a lot of guys
Speaker 4: I could hit because this this draft guy specifically, there's
Speaker 4: been a lot of I think that the media and
Speaker 4: the general consensus has kind of ran with some things
Speaker 4: that the league is not in line with Kelvin but
Speaker 4: both the offensive tackles that are the very top, like
Speaker 4: Will Campbell and Kevin Banks, And we already mentioned Will
Speaker 4: Campbell a little bit earlier. I think he's probably gonna
Speaker 4: go much later than people think. I would not be
Speaker 4: surprised at all to see Will Campbell fall into the twenties.
Speaker 4: Kelvin Banks could fall out of the first round. He's
Speaker 4: in the seventies on my big board currently, So he's
Speaker 4: been a guy that's been in like office tackle one conversation.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't surprised to see him slept. I know Tedoro McMillan,
Speaker 4: who's been a guy pretty popular to at seven, I
Speaker 4: think could slip into the mid to late twenties, and
Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised at all. He's another guy I've
Speaker 4: been kind of historically lower on compared to most people.
Speaker 4: So I would not be a fan of that pick
Speaker 4: at seven, and I don't think the Jets will do it,
Speaker 4: but that that would be a tough one for me
Speaker 4: to spend personally. But those are probably the three guys
Speaker 4: that popped in the pop in the mind that could
Speaker 4: slip to the twenties, orming out of the first round
Speaker 4: in Kelvin Banks situation. But there's a lot of that
Speaker 4: in this draft. Sackle. It's it's been a fun one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll continue to check out with that again as
Speaker 1: we continue to work closer and closer to the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five NFL Draft. We're now in the fifth round again.
Speaker 1: The Jets have two picks of the fifth round. Two
Speaker 1: picks of the sixth round, no pick in the seventh round,
Speaker 1: and we've addressed offensive tackle, safety, wide receiver, and tighten.
Speaker 1: Now we're here in the fifth what position do you
Speaker 1: want to take a closer look at?
Speaker 4: Drrewe gotta finally be D line here, and I think
Speaker 4: there's gonna be a guy that jumps off off the
Speaker 4: page because his D line class is so deep, and
Speaker 4: I think you're just looking for a guy that can
Speaker 4: add some pass rush juice. Yeah, not not exactly the
Speaker 4: board I would love. I know Tim Smith has been
Speaker 4: a guy that gets talked about there. Ze Biggers is
Speaker 4: a great athlete in his size to get a pretty
Speaker 4: deep back. Cam Jackson is a guy that I love.
Speaker 4: He's been talked about as a pretty big range. Ty
Speaker 4: Robinson is another guy I really like who tested out
Speaker 4: of this world. The combine to me, this is probably
Speaker 4: between those two. I think your Stackhouse is a pretty
Speaker 4: good athlete, but I don't really love his tape. Cam
Speaker 4: Jackson had an awesome Senior Bole week. There's some stamina
Speaker 4: concerns there in his size and he's playing at like
Speaker 4: three hundred and thirty three and forty pounds or whatever.
Speaker 4: It maybe such powerful hands. I mean he just has
Speaker 4: hammers for hands, really throwing guys around. Again, I know
Speaker 4: on on phase value he's got that bigger nose tackle
Speaker 4: body looks like just a run stopper, like a lot
Speaker 4: of what they've added, But I think he's got a
Speaker 4: pretty high pass rushing stealing. Robinson is another guy who
Speaker 4: is a great hybrid. You know, can provide himself on
Speaker 4: early downs and run defense, but he can also get
Speaker 4: get after the quarterback on third downs. Like I said,
Speaker 4: the athleticism there is out of this world. He tested
Speaker 4: extremely well, another like non something RAS guy. So for me,
Speaker 4: it's probably between those two. I really like Ty Robinson
Speaker 4: here just okay, provides a little bit more pass rushing
Speaker 4: juice than Cam Jackson, does a little bit more athleticism,
Speaker 4: quite as much run defense. But like you said, you
Speaker 4: already stuff have been only added that in free agency.
Speaker 4: So I like to fit for Ty Robinson here.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well we will go with that pick before we
Speaker 1: move on. Actually this is totally unrelated, but you mentioned
Speaker 1: just a few minutes ago Technic, a wide receiver out
Speaker 1: of Arizona. An old clip of Tet McMillan has gone
Speaker 1: viral on social media for those who have not seen it,
Speaker 1: because I know some people are don't haven't heard about it,
Speaker 1: but I hear other people talk about the comment section.
Speaker 1: From what I believe and understand, the full context is
Speaker 1: always important for whatever that means. A tet McMillan and
Speaker 1: the watersever Arizona. That's a consensus all over the place.
Speaker 1: People see him in the top five, top ten, first round,
Speaker 1: all over the place. There is a tape of him
Speaker 1: eating in a cafeteria when he was a freshman, and
Speaker 1: he's being interviewed by someone and he's asked about watching
Speaker 1: tape and tape study and things of that nature and
Speaker 1: watching football, and basically in the middle of eating whatever
Speaker 1: the hell he was eating, he just said, I hate
Speaker 1: all that. I don't like watching tape. I don't like
Speaker 1: just watching football. So sort of like kind of all
Speaker 1: paraphrasing and rolling up into one. Does that mean anything?
Speaker 1: Does that mean something? I remember Miles Garrett coming out
Speaker 1: he'd liked to write poetry and be going I don't know, like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, does it mean something, doesn't mean nothing?
Speaker 1: What's your take on me?
Speaker 4: It's all a nothing burger to me. I think you're
Speaker 4: not gonna find somebody lower on TET than me. And
Speaker 4: it's just I think people have really run that top
Speaker 4: ten hype, and he's a second round player for me,
Speaker 4: so people have really jumped on that, and I think
Speaker 4: this we've reached the part of the draft process where
Speaker 4: people are going to try to find just just grasping
Speaker 4: at straws to attack these guys character and get them
Speaker 4: to fall. And it's really sad to see what happens
Speaker 4: to some of these guys because this is a nineteen
Speaker 4: year old kid. When he said that clip, I mean
Speaker 4: he had not developed anywhere near the player and the
Speaker 4: guy he is today. And also I mean even if
Speaker 4: it was, you know, if he said that yesterday, people
Speaker 4: don't realize that there's a ton of guys who are
Speaker 4: incredibly successful in the NFL who hate watching tape. If
Speaker 4: you're if you're not a quarterback. Now, if a quarterback
Speaker 4: has said that, he might be off the board, I'll
Speaker 4: go ahead and tell you that right now, that's a problem.
Speaker 4: But for a guy who's a receiver, I believe he's
Speaker 4: physically said the clip outside of his position group. He
Speaker 4: doesn't watch film on his own at all, which is
Speaker 4: what a ton of receivers do, and those guys watch
Speaker 4: a ton of tape with their position groups, their poditional coach,
Speaker 4: and outside of that watch much at all. Now the
Speaker 4: great ones do, and it's not you. You. You want
Speaker 4: a guy who's just obsessed with the game and non
Speaker 4: stop watching his own film and whoever he's playing the
Speaker 4: next week. But I think for a nineteen year old kid,
Speaker 4: and especially one playing receiver, I don't think that impacts
Speaker 4: his draft stock at all. If you were high on
Speaker 4: him before, you're sill high on him. If you lowering
Speaker 4: him before, you're still lowering him. I don't think it
Speaker 4: changes much.
Speaker 1: By the way, Drew, it makes a lot of sense
Speaker 1: that you would be okay with guys not watching tape.
Speaker 1: You don't want people to trying to take your job.
Speaker 1: Ted McMillan security here, and I respect it, all right.
Speaker 1: So let's let's hit the draft jimes once again. Maybe
Speaker 1: there defensive lineman Aunt of Nebraska is to pick here
Speaker 1: in the fifth round, the one hundred and forty fifth
Speaker 1: overall pick for the New York Jets. There we go,
Speaker 1: Ty Robinson, Welcome to the New York Jets. Now this
Speaker 1: is the Jets' second fifth round draft selection. They picked
Speaker 1: one sixty two overall. Do the New York Jets again.
Speaker 1: We've addressed offensive tackle, safety, wide receiver tied, and interior
Speaker 1: defensive line. What's to pick here with our second fifth
Speaker 1: round draft choice? True?
Speaker 4: See, this is where it gets kind of fun because
Speaker 4: you're down, You're down in the weeds. You're in like
Speaker 4: mid to late day three. This is where, really, you know,
Speaker 4: boards start getting all over the place because you really
Speaker 4: get into the into the bottom depth of this class,
Speaker 4: and I think you've hit all the major needs right now,
Speaker 4: so you can kind of float around and go just
Speaker 4: as player available, whoever's falling. This is where it really
Speaker 4: gets kind of fun. So I would look at probably
Speaker 4: like boundary corner, see if the guy's falling there, because
Speaker 4: I think, you know, that's still a sneaky need. Now.
Speaker 4: I don't think this quarter class is very deep, so okay,
Speaker 4: like Robert Longer Beams, a guy that kind of looks
Speaker 4: at me because I think in a in a quarner
Speaker 4: class full of a guy, a bunch of guys who
Speaker 4: are gonna have to be slot slot DB's, I think
Speaker 4: Longer Beams is one of the few guys that can
Speaker 4: stay outside He's a good athlete in a very long frame,
Speaker 4: lanky arms. So he's a guy O Donald Fortune is
Speaker 4: probably a little bit later on my board, but he
Speaker 4: could go. Tommy Hill is a guy who who's a
Speaker 4: track star in high school. He's very, very athletic, probably
Speaker 4: a slot dB. I don't know if the Jets need
Speaker 4: a nickel pared to an outside corner.
Speaker 1: They do not. They have Michael Carter, the second the
Speaker 1: highest pad nickel defender in football. They feel pretty good.
Speaker 4: About, okay so and Tommy Hill. He's a guy that
Speaker 4: probably has safety flexibility as well to get some safety
Speaker 4: and we already took Stavir Watts. He's one of the
Speaker 4: few guys people like to interchange nickel and safety is
Speaker 4: kind of the same position, and I don't agree with
Speaker 4: that at all. I think they're very, very different. Tommy
Speaker 4: Hill is one of the unique guys that I think
Speaker 4: has the flexibility there. Mac McWilliams. That's a guy who
Speaker 4: who had a pretty nice season atu CEF after transferring
Speaker 4: from my current school u AD Go Blazers. Yeah, there
Speaker 4: we go. I think he's a guy that that's a
Speaker 4: pretty good athlete. Jabar Muhammad is another slot dB. I
Speaker 4: really really like it's got some flexibility. I think he
Speaker 4: could play outside in a pinch. But as far as
Speaker 4: this this boord has fallen, I don't love it. Tommy
Speaker 4: Hill is the first guy that jumps off the board
Speaker 4: or longer beam, I don't hate either one of those
Speaker 4: of that.
Speaker 1: Pick another position then.
Speaker 4: Could you? I know I was about to say, run.
Speaker 4: I feel like almost every single team you want to
Speaker 4: take advantage of this running back class. Sure, I know
Speaker 4: you've already got bringing on Allen back there. You've Gatarees
Speaker 4: Hall not in a lot of room in that running
Speaker 4: back room.
Speaker 1: Isaiah Davis is in there as well. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe this is a place you wait in grab
Speaker 4: a ud fa body if you just really want to
Speaker 4: take a shot. But I think in a running back
Speaker 4: room that that's stable, probably not somebody you want to use.
Speaker 1: I would just say this though, if you, if you,
Speaker 1: if there's a guy you love here, the only conversation
Speaker 1: is Brestall's center in the last year of his contract,
Speaker 1: So it depends on how you Slashed the Jets feel
Speaker 1: about him. Is he staying here long term? Is he
Speaker 1: not all of a sudden what he appears to not
Speaker 1: be a need today? Could be a need tomorrow.
Speaker 4: So and I'm I'm kind of in the camp. I
Speaker 4: hate to say it because I can consider myself kind
Speaker 4: of a traditionalist when coomes to football, but I am
Speaker 4: kind of in the same camp where you just don't
Speaker 4: sign running backs to new contracts because in the modern
Speaker 4: NFL world, that's just how good teams operate. You know,
Speaker 4: you get a guy, you get your four years out
Speaker 4: of it on the cheap deal, and then you let
Speaker 4: him go and you draft a new one because running
Speaker 4: backs are just unfortunately replaceable.
Speaker 1: You're sitting in front of this beautifully autographed Derek Henry jersey.
Speaker 4: I know, and that's that's that's what hurts me so
Speaker 4: bad because he made be following love the football growing
Speaker 4: up watching it, watching Dereck Henry, you run for two
Speaker 4: hundred yards at a why zone every single week. But
Speaker 4: that's just how how the NFL has shifted. And I think,
Speaker 4: you know, you see a resurgence with the guys like
Speaker 4: Eric Henry in Baltimore and Saquon in Philadelphia, but I
Speaker 4: still think, you know, you you very much want to
Speaker 4: live in that cheap sweet spot of just never having
Speaker 4: to spend money on running back and like Trevor Etn
Speaker 4: is probably the highest guy on my board right here.
Speaker 4: I think he's a very very well balanced, flexible back.
Speaker 4: You know, he's probably good in past protection, solid route runner,
Speaker 4: very very good contact balance. He's a guy that that's
Speaker 4: incredibly balanced as a runner. Not the twitchiest athlete in
Speaker 4: the world, not gonna, not gonna have that unreal burst
Speaker 4: at the first level, not a track store, but just
Speaker 4: runs very very low to the ground, very very balanced.
Speaker 4: I do like the bet running back board, but I
Speaker 4: don't think there's a guy that really jumps out as
Speaker 4: like a solution in Breese Hall next year.
Speaker 1: What about quarterback? Is there? Is there anyone here has
Speaker 1: an interesting one? Although I don't know if I believe
Speaker 1: some of these stocks here, Like I've heard a lot
Speaker 1: about Tyler shut Yeah he's not hearing Kyle McCord. I
Speaker 1: don't know. You could tell me I'm higher on my
Speaker 1: Syracuse people, so I may give you a different answer
Speaker 1: than the rest of the world. But I don't think
Speaker 1: he's gonna be here. But it's up to the world,
Speaker 1: I guess to determine that one.
Speaker 4: I will say I Calviccord is a weird one because
Speaker 4: I think He's kind of been all over the board
Speaker 4: right there, there's not really like consensus is not really
Speaker 4: set in stone with Calviccord, He's floated all over the place.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't be shocked to see him here. Max Brosber
Speaker 4: out of Minnesota has been another one of my guys
Speaker 4: throughout a lot of this class. I love Max Brosmer's tape.
Speaker 4: He's a guy that has dealt with some injuries. Not
Speaker 4: the most physically gifted athlete in the world. When it
Speaker 4: comes to throng with timing and anticipation and functioning within
Speaker 4: the the timing of the offense, he's one of the
Speaker 4: best I ever watched, flat out. If this guy was
Speaker 4: more athletic, I think he'd be in the in the
Speaker 4: conversation for one of the top quarterbacks in this class
Speaker 4: that good. I think the de factory is something you
Speaker 4: have to work on. But uh, I think with Kyle
Speaker 4: McCord here, that's kind of the first guy that jump
Speaker 4: jumps out to me. It is probably one with the
Speaker 4: highest ceiling. The developmental guy to sit behind Justin Fields
Speaker 4: Field doesn't pan out, you know, I think if that
Speaker 4: doesn't happen, you're probably looking at drafting a guy next year.
Speaker 4: But you know you're you're here in the in the
Speaker 4: late fifth really no risk involved here. You're you're taking
Speaker 4: a flyer on a guy that could work out in
Speaker 4: Kyle McCord. And I don't hate that pick. I think
Speaker 4: that's okay, a quarterback of that kind of value here
Speaker 4: this late somebody with you know a little bit of
Speaker 4: kind of that fearless gunslinger and Kyle.
Speaker 1: Baby, Okay, I guess that's a pick that there's no
Speaker 1: question about it. Baby. So Kyle McCord, quarterback out of Syracuse,
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty two overall pick in the fifth
Speaker 1: round of this mock draft scenario. We only have two
Speaker 1: picks left. Let's let's go through them. Here. We're now
Speaker 1: in the sixth round again the judge of two six draft,
Speaker 1: which is their own, and then an additional six they
Speaker 1: picked up coming from the meat Cole Hardman trade previously.
Speaker 1: All right, what positions are we immediately looking at here,
Speaker 1: Drew to round out this draft.
Speaker 4: I'm probably going to edge here. I know you've already got,
Speaker 4: like you know, Will mcdaland, you got a pre solidified
Speaker 4: top into the edge room. But uh, in the day
Speaker 4: three is world where you can get some some good rotation.
Speaker 1: Or see he's tweeting about this guy speaking ton.
Speaker 4: I love some Fidiel Diggs. I do have questions about
Speaker 4: him following this far. I know consensus still has him
Speaker 4: in the two hundreds. But this is a guy that
Speaker 4: I've got a late fourth round grade on him. I
Speaker 4: think Fidield Diggs is a really awesome athlete. He's got
Speaker 4: some great burst, a good first step, pretty good men
Speaker 4: around the corner. I don't think he's a guy you
Speaker 4: want to have on the field, uh in run defense.
Speaker 4: I think he's probably a designated pass rusher agat you
Speaker 4: put on put on the field on third downs, just
Speaker 4: got to pin your ears back. But I really really
Speaker 4: like him. Is John Joyner still on the board. He
Speaker 4: might be a little further down. I think PF that's
Speaker 4: pretty low on that guy, joh Joyner.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like he's not here. I missed him
Speaker 1: off to Yeah, okay.
Speaker 4: No, yeah, that's usually he falls into like the two
Speaker 4: hundreds on PFS. But interesting, Fidield Diggs is far and
Speaker 4: away that the highest guy on my board here. And
Speaker 4: like I said before, I think this is the guy that,
Speaker 4: uh you probably don't want on early downs early in
Speaker 4: his career. Maybe he develops as a run defender a
Speaker 4: little bit early, but starting off, you know, he's a
Speaker 4: guy that that adds immediate juice as a as a
Speaker 4: pass rusher on third downs that you put in rotationally.
Speaker 4: He's a guy that's a great speed rusher. Got a
Speaker 4: really nice rip move. He's flashed out really dangerous inside
Speaker 4: spin that that he doesn't show often, but when he
Speaker 4: did pull it out, it was really really effective. I
Speaker 4: already mentioned the riff the bend. He's very, very flexible
Speaker 4: and can kind of do the motorcycle leaning around the corner
Speaker 4: I was talking about. So I think that's a guy
Speaker 4: that had some injury concerns I believe to a Syracuse
Speaker 4: while he was playing, but when he was when he
Speaker 4: was healthy, you saw the burst just kind of fly
Speaker 4: off the tape. His Miami game was was outstanding. He
Speaker 4: really really had a massive impact on that that Miami
Speaker 4: offense when they played Man.
Speaker 1: I can think of another Syracuse guy that had that
Speaker 1: spin cycle move. I can't quite place his name. Hall
Speaker 1: of Famer super star guy. Oh who knows good foot
Speaker 1: deal digs be that X quite free. Any baby that
Speaker 1: would be sweet. But let me so. You don't think, though,
Speaker 1: that Diggs would make it this far, you don't believe.
Speaker 4: I don't think that's have a question by any means.
Speaker 4: I don't think it's crazy, unrealistic. I know he's still
Speaker 4: in the two hundreds on unconsensus on the PFS boards specifically. Yeah,
Speaker 4: right now, I think he could be a guy that
Speaker 4: goes as early as, like, you know, the early one hundreds.
Speaker 4: But I don't think it's it's out of the realm
Speaker 4: the possibility that he falls to the late one hunters
Speaker 4: by any means.
Speaker 1: Okay, so this is someone you'd love to steal away
Speaker 1: from your Tennessee Titans and to give a green and
Speaker 1: white jersey to That's what.
Speaker 4: You're while I'm here, I'm a Jets guy, while I'm here,
Speaker 4: while I'm in the seat. So so I'd love to
Speaker 4: see Fidil Diggs gale right here.
Speaker 1: Back to back, Syracuse guys, you love to see it, baby,
Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty six overall. In the sixth round,
Speaker 1: the Jets take Edge Dresher Fadil Digs out of Syracuse, Yes,
Speaker 1: bleep and sir, which takes us to the final pick
Speaker 1: of this mock draft the Jets final selection two oh
Speaker 1: seven overall in the sixth round. It's the last pick.
Speaker 1: This is mister irrelevant for the New York Jets as
Speaker 1: far as I'm concerned. So where are we going here?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm probably looking at a dB here. We haven't
Speaker 4: addressed that. We'll see if any any of the down
Speaker 4: corners kind of developmental. The day three guys have fallen
Speaker 4: right here.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a gander here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Tommy Hill still being there is kind of intriguing.
Speaker 4: I like mc McWilliams in this range too. He's a
Speaker 4: guy that's it's a pretty good athlete, really physical with
Speaker 4: a line of scrimmage. There's there anybody a little bit
Speaker 4: lower that that I haven't talked about that maybe I've missed,
Speaker 4: or Muhammad still being here. I like mc McWilliams honestly
Speaker 4: because I know we've already talked about them having that
Speaker 4: nickel position really solidified, and I think Tommy Hill and
Speaker 4: and Jabar Muhammed are more nickel defenders. And I think
Speaker 4: McWilliams can really live on the outside right there. Really
Speaker 4: really he just churns his legs when he runs because
Speaker 4: he's kind of a guy that's that's got shorter legs,
Speaker 4: but you don't really see a lot of DB's. You
Speaker 4: see guys that have really long strides, like the dairy
Speaker 4: and porters. In this draft class. Mac Williams is the
Speaker 4: guy that you just see that the legs just pumped
Speaker 4: when he runs, and he's really good bumped and run
Speaker 4: with the line of scrimmage, got a strong punch and
Speaker 4: press coverage. So I like McWilliams here.
Speaker 1: Okay, there you go. The last to just comment. Someone
Speaker 1: said kicker, kicker, kickers.
Speaker 4: I will say, uh, kicking scouting is not my expertise.
Speaker 4: We might need another guest on the podcast for that.
Speaker 4: I haven't scouted any kickers yet in this draft class.
Speaker 1: I appreciate.
Speaker 4: You know. I'm not gonna try to go out to
Speaker 4: my wheelhouse here. I have no idea what I'm looking
Speaker 4: forward kickers. Maybe a UDFA guy you bring it in
Speaker 4: a camp there.
Speaker 1: Okay, there, you know, I appreciate the honesty because you
Speaker 1: could have just tried to you know, speaking of kickers, Yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Got the Senior Bowl'll not recognized the name, but past.
Speaker 1: That touche fair enough. So let's put it in baby.
Speaker 1: The final pick of this New York Jet seven round
Speaker 1: mock draft. Mac McWilliams the cornerback at a UCF with
Speaker 1: the two hundred seventh overall pick in the sixth round.
Speaker 1: Good Lord, have mercy and uh you know, as the
Speaker 1: mincraft fished up here, we're gonna throw this up, gonna
Speaker 1: like it. Yeah, well we'll see, uh yeah, a lot
Speaker 1: of well, a mixed bag. There's a's and b's and
Speaker 1: B three. But they did not they give you an
Speaker 1: overall draft creative receive plus. But again, I think it's
Speaker 1: important to note for all of these mock drafts that
Speaker 1: we're putting up here is that they create it based
Speaker 1: on if you listen to their own rankings, and if
Speaker 1: you did not, jeez, we hate your guts. So I
Speaker 1: appreciate that, and I just have to say, drew right
Speaker 1: up the TEP before you go any further, a round
Speaker 1: of applause. This is the first seven round mock draft
Speaker 1: of this cycle, and it takes a very daring man
Speaker 1: to be willing to put themselves out there, especially to
Speaker 1: hundreds of people watching live here on the show and
Speaker 1: giving your draft takes throughout the throughout the part of
Speaker 1: the program. So just thank you. Pal. Appreciate you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you. I always love the opportunity to get
Speaker 4: on here and talk about some day three guys really
Speaker 4: getting the weeds. This draft talks, So I appreciate the opportunity.
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's do this. We will open up the
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Speaker 1: someone that at the beginning of the show said can
Speaker 1: I get on with Drew, So I'm not surprised that
Speaker 1: he is collar number one waiting to speak with you. Drew.
Speaker 1: Here we go. Ricky New York joins us here on
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Speaker 6: Ricky, Hey, how's it going man? Good job?
Speaker 7: Like, hey, I respect so much watch you guys put
Speaker 7: into it. You know, someone was talking to me last
Speaker 7: night and saying, like, you know you would be good
Speaker 7: at that. I'm like, with my work schedule, I don't
Speaker 7: have time to dive into every single prospect the way
Speaker 7: that I wish I could. I mean, I probably watch
Speaker 7: more film than most people, but still like there's so
Speaker 7: much work that goes into that.
Speaker 1: And.
Speaker 7: You know it might not be your wheelhouse. But I'll
Speaker 7: tell you what our future kicker was at the senior
Speaker 7: bo with Ryan Fitzgerald. I mean, one hundred percent on
Speaker 7: field goals and extra points last year, including fifty two
Speaker 7: fifty nine yarders.
Speaker 6: He hit a sixty two yarder at his pro day.
Speaker 7: Uh my team college team sucked last year, but our
Speaker 7: kicker was bulletproof man.
Speaker 6: Well he was awesome. So so uh, there there's a
Speaker 6: there's a tip for kicker for you can't can't go
Speaker 6: wrong with.
Speaker 1: That guy that we needed the entire time. Drew Okay,
Speaker 1: that's yeah, you have money here.
Speaker 6: Okay, beautiful right right on.
Speaker 7: And uh, you know, I just got done listening to
Speaker 7: ag speak. I was kind of listening to that and
Speaker 7: listening to you guys at the same time. And Uh,
Speaker 7: I like what he had to say about Jordan Travis.
Speaker 7: If he's healthy, he's going to compete. He was a
Speaker 7: damn good player in college. He got better as far
Speaker 7: as being able to read defenses, and uh, that's what
Speaker 7: you look for in a guy. So that was kind
Speaker 7: of encouraging to hear that.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 7: And I also like the fact that he, you know,
Speaker 7: talked about sauce and Garrett. You know, we got good players.
Speaker 7: We're going to keep them like we did with sure would,
Speaker 7: so a lot, a lot of really good stuff to
Speaker 7: unpack it there.
Speaker 6: I'll tell you what.
Speaker 7: I feel a lot better about Brandon Stevens too after
Speaker 7: listening to AG's comments about him. So, uh, really really
Speaker 7: good stuff a lot too unpacked there me personally, I uh, dude,
Speaker 7: I'll tell you what.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 6: AG keeps talking about speed.
Speaker 7: And of course, a team is never going to tell
Speaker 7: you what they're going to do before the draft unless
Speaker 7: they're the number one pick, you know, because nothing can
Speaker 7: change that. But the way that he keeps talking about
Speaker 7: speed and how speed can change the game, I think
Speaker 7: he's coming as close to telling us as he could
Speaker 7: without you know, actually doing it.
Speaker 6: And uh I did.
Speaker 7: I did a mock myself this morning, so and I'm
Speaker 7: gonna and it was crazy. I was watching you guys
Speaker 7: mock and I was like, damn, there's some late round
Speaker 7: guys that I usually snatch in a heartbeat that that
Speaker 7: aren't there for for these guys.
Speaker 6: But uh, you know, I just I just pick what's there.
Speaker 6: But I'm gonna give you my mock from this morning.
Speaker 7: Uh, And the only criticism that I have about any
Speaker 7: of the mocks that I've seen people do is it
Speaker 7: seems like people are picking who they like and not
Speaker 7: picking who Aaron Glenn.
Speaker 6: Would like as far as like speed. Uh, you know,
Speaker 6: but but at any rate, I'm gonna give you.
Speaker 1: Before you give us your mock draft. So earlier in
Speaker 1: the conversation, one of the reasons you want to coin
Speaker 1: is you said you want to debate draft philosophy with Drew.
Speaker 1: What was that draft philosophy You wanted to debate that?
Speaker 6: That was actually exactly what I was just mentioned.
Speaker 7: So many of the mocks that I see, it seems
Speaker 7: like the guys are picking the players that they're really
Speaker 7: high on and not thinking in terms of who Glenn
Speaker 7: would be high on, you know, based on the comments
Speaker 7: that he's good with us.
Speaker 1: All right, so let me go over to you, Drew.
Speaker 1: What's your response to that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's absolutely fair, and I think that's
Speaker 4: that's one of the faults of draft media is that
Speaker 4: the people you really can't be intimately familiar enough with
Speaker 4: all the schemes in the league. You know, everybody's gonna
Speaker 4: feel slighted because you know, I'm not familiar with anybody
Speaker 4: like deeply familiar outside of Tennessee by any means. And
Speaker 4: I do think like Xavier Watts. I think is a
Speaker 4: guy that would fit really well with erin Glenn, But
Speaker 4: I'm not nearly enough familiar enough with his defensive scheme
Speaker 4: and his philosophy as a coach to to fully match
Speaker 4: all of these picks. So absolutely, yeah, I was fully
Speaker 4: going off my own board there, And I'm sure there
Speaker 4: were some great fits that would work really well in
Speaker 4: New York that I that I missed in there. I
Speaker 4: don't know. But as I go on as an evaluator,
Speaker 4: I'll be able to learn some more about how the
Speaker 4: rest of the league, how their schemes really develop it,
Speaker 4: and learn to to kind of match some of these
Speaker 4: these mock drafts better. Yeah. I think that's that's a
Speaker 4: very very fair criticism of so many draft evaluators, And
Speaker 4: it's just you can only only know so much about
Speaker 4: so many schemes around the league.
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's do this. So Ricky, you're going to
Speaker 1: reveal our mock craft. Now, Drew, you get to turn
Speaker 1: the cap backward. You get to go on, Ricky, Now
Speaker 1: you get to grade the ship out of his The
Speaker 1: last hour. Right, You're like, what Midia, this pic this?
Speaker 7: I know it's not you, not at all, which I mean, Uh,
Speaker 7: I'm I'm guilty of some of the same things. Like
Speaker 7: you know, I know all about my Florida State guys.
Speaker 7: But then the teams that we play too, whether it's
Speaker 7: Ozzie Tropio at Boston College. Uh, Danny Stutsman that we
Speaker 7: played in the cheeze At Bowl and he was like
Speaker 7: a missile. He was everywhere hitting everybody. Uh Like, like,
Speaker 7: you know, the competition we play I'm also familiar with.
Speaker 7: But I just try not to let that because I've
Speaker 7: seen some like really really good draft people. But then
Speaker 7: it came to like and you know that they're like
Speaker 7: say a Michigan fan, and then it comes to like
Speaker 7: an Ohio State player and they're like, I'm not really sold,
Speaker 7: and it's like, I think I whooped your ass last year.
Speaker 7: You mean you're not sold. So I just try not
Speaker 7: to let my own personal bias come into it. But anyways, uh,
Speaker 7: which this is starting to be my new favorite pick
Speaker 7: at number seven. But h number seven, I took Matthew Golden.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 6: Number forty two, I took Tyleek Williams. Seventy three.
Speaker 7: I took Ozzie TRAPPEO one ten, Terence Ferguson one forty five,
Speaker 7: Ty Felton UH one sixty two, Danny Stutzman one eight
Speaker 7: six JJ Pegeez, and two O seven Q Robinson, who
Speaker 7: does fall in a lot of mocks. It was off
Speaker 7: to a monster start and then got hurt. And I
Speaker 7: think that really hurt his stock. But I think that
Speaker 7: could be like a gem as a pass rusher at
Speaker 7: the ass end of the draft. But that's that's what
Speaker 7: I got this morning. And like I said, I kind
Speaker 7: of tried to do it, you know, based on speed,
Speaker 7: based on the things that Glenn said. And I got
Speaker 7: a four point two nine wide receiver and a four
Speaker 7: point three three wide US so not too shabby.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty good, Ricky. So Drew, why don't you
Speaker 1: a judge or give any of thoughts you will on
Speaker 1: Ricky smock there. Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 4: The Matthew Golden one at seven is really really interesting.
Speaker 4: I mean I don't hate it at all. Matthew Golden
Speaker 4: is pretty much dead even as far as as as
Speaker 4: grades go. With Luther Burden from my wide receiver one.
Speaker 4: I love Matthew Golden's tape. I know he ran a
Speaker 4: four two nine, but I think when you see him
Speaker 4: on tape, he's probably more of before four his guy.
Speaker 4: I'm also I'm somebody that kind of goes away from
Speaker 4: athletic testing too. I don't use athletic testing at all
Speaker 4: in my grades. But you see Matthew Golden tape, I
Speaker 4: don't think he's limited athletically at all. I think he's
Speaker 4: a very natural separator. He's got some of the best
Speaker 4: release packages off the line of scrimmage in this class.
Speaker 4: He doesn't struggle with press man coverage at all. I
Speaker 4: think he's one of the few guys in this class too,
Speaker 4: that can play all three receiver positions. I think you
Speaker 4: could put him at X and he succeed. I think
Speaker 4: he probably works best at ZEE, but I know Garret
Speaker 4: Wilson's played a lot of that role. I think you
Speaker 4: put him a slot and he'd excel as well. So
Speaker 4: I think he's very very flexible there. But yeah, I
Speaker 4: think he's great at the catch point too. He doesn't
Speaker 4: get enough credit for how well he tracks the ball
Speaker 4: any here. He throws his hands up late. He's very
Speaker 4: very developed as a receiver. So I actually really like
Speaker 4: that pick. That's not what I've heard before, but I
Speaker 4: think that's a great pick. I think he said Tyler
Speaker 4: Williams in the second yees as well, which yeah, and
Speaker 4: I love the way he pairs with Quenton Williams. I
Speaker 4: think KYLEI Williams is another guy that that is one
Speaker 4: of the best, right there with with Alfred Collins for
Speaker 4: the best run defender in his class. I mean, he
Speaker 4: just collapses that interior because he's so strong, nice through
Speaker 4: double teams. He's a great hand fighter. His anchor and
Speaker 4: run defense is just unbelievable, and he never gets moved
Speaker 4: off the point of attack. And I think he's kind
Speaker 4: of undervalued as a pass rusher too. He's got he's
Speaker 4: got some some really nice like his club move is
Speaker 4: really nice. He's got really heavy hands, is a pass rusher,
Speaker 4: so he can really add some juice to that room.
Speaker 4: I think that's a great fit in New York. I've
Speaker 4: seen that pick mocked a lot, and I really like
Speaker 4: that one too. Uh his third round pick.
Speaker 1: Was but no, that's good. That's good. I just wanted
Speaker 1: needed to get.
Speaker 4: You mentioned the ty Felton pick on Day three too,
Speaker 4: which I will Yeah, I love as well, I do
Speaker 4: question if he falls that far. I think he's probably
Speaker 4: an early day three guy. But if he falls to
Speaker 4: the one forties, you know, I think that's that's a
Speaker 4: great pick. He's a very very natural separator, great short
Speaker 4: area of quickness. I don't know that he has the
Speaker 4: long speed to kind of vertically separate and take the
Speaker 4: top off of defenses, but he's a very very good
Speaker 4: route runner. He separates well. He had a head injury
Speaker 4: which is kind of scary this past year, but which
Speaker 4: kind of kind of limited him late in the year.
Speaker 4: But he's a very quick, natural separator.
Speaker 1: Drew, do you have a random insult to throw? Ou
Speaker 1: don't come out to get to like kind of mix
Speaker 1: it up when you're analyzing a draft that's in the
Speaker 1: comments in the media. You put up a mock draft
Speaker 1: and you're like, hey, nice, Mack, you idiot or something.
Speaker 1: You know, you should have got to mix Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was trying to trying to keep it nice.
Speaker 4: My first time on here, I thought that's my fourth
Speaker 4: round pick. Was the first one I heard that. It
Speaker 4: wasn't my favorite, but overall, actually I thought it was
Speaker 4: a great draft.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, there you go play nice now? But then
Speaker 1: once you kind of get familiar, then I was just
Speaker 1: you're part of the family and we could start a
Speaker 1: mugging on each other.
Speaker 4: Then yeah, yeah, I gotta get comfortable here first before
Speaker 4: fair enough.
Speaker 1: I appreciate the your Maxie basically cut of your Jim Pal.
Speaker 1: I like how you're constructed here. Yeah, we got four
Speaker 1: other people in the room, like the video hit subscriber
Speaker 1: on for only a few more minutes. Here, let's go
Speaker 1: to chef Kevin Gilbert. What's up?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 1: Do local? All right? Jeff? Where the hell are we?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm outside on the balcony. Man, a little uh,
Speaker 2: a little under the weather.
Speaker 1: Man, so oh okay, Nah, I appreciate that.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 2: Got the the football stuff, Man, that you guys are
Speaker 2: doing was great, Man. I just uh, I wanted to
Speaker 2: call in, you know, show support and all that stuff. Man,
Speaker 2: just because like with the with the early morning shows. Man,
Speaker 2: like a lot of us I see him in the chat, Man,
Speaker 2: a lot of us are like consistently here every single day, man.
Speaker 2: And and with you starting at the time that you
Speaker 2: start at, man, like knowing that you got a family,
Speaker 2: you know, you got the wipe, you got the kids
Speaker 2: and all that, and you still got your day job
Speaker 2: going on, man, Like you know the squeezes in Man,
Speaker 2: it's highly appreciated.
Speaker 4: I know how big you are on.
Speaker 2: The cord just because you know Syracuse quarterback all that stuff.
Speaker 2: This is this is my thing, like and and and
Speaker 2: and I love Ricky. I don't want step on his toes.
Speaker 1: I know you know.
Speaker 4: He's a big Jordan Travis guy. I get it.
Speaker 1: I like him too.
Speaker 2: Is just with the hell stuff now with us having
Speaker 2: three qbs right now? Ford, what what is the plan?
Speaker 2: Like this this can't be a long term thing is
Speaker 2: a short term. I just wanted to feel out why
Speaker 2: did we make that pick?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll let Drew speak for the pick in a second.
Speaker 1: The other thing I'll jump in to say is like,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of with you. For those who don't know
Speaker 1: Ricky New York, for new people to the Joe, he
Speaker 1: is a Florida State fan. To me personally, I'm pretending
Speaker 1: Jordan Travis doesn't even exist. If I'm if I go
Speaker 1: in the room and the Jets invite me down into
Speaker 1: a speech, I'm like looking at it, everybody, I'm pretending
Speaker 1: like he doesn't even exist. I'm like looking through him,
Speaker 1: because like, I don't think you can count on him
Speaker 1: for anything now, fairness, AG was speaking at the same
Speaker 1: time as boy green Day, like, come on, Jet, stop
Speaker 1: stepping on my toes here. I thought I had this
Speaker 1: time flat but edy of you, okay, But in all seriousness,
Speaker 1: I didn't hear anything AG just said. So I have
Speaker 1: no idea. I'll listen to it when I'm on the
Speaker 1: drive into the radio station. But to me, I can't
Speaker 1: expect anything out of Jordan Dress and quite frankly, the
Speaker 1: Jets can't either. If he is anything, right, you roll
Speaker 1: up the trade. He's of course going to be on
Speaker 1: the ninety man roster, regardless of the drafts, draft Kyle
Speaker 1: McCord or not, and then let's see what happens in
Speaker 1: training camp.
Speaker 5: But right now I can't even pretend he exists. This dude,
Speaker 5: let alone play the game. He hasn't even practice. We're
Speaker 5: talking about practice and going on Allen ivers in here,
Speaker 5: but what the hell? So I've got no expectations for
Speaker 5: Jordan Travis if he ends up being something phenomenal. The
Speaker 5: Jets took a rest by drafted a guy who was
Speaker 5: already severely injured and going through a rehab process, and
Speaker 5: sometimes the rehab process goes this way. Sometimes the rehab
Speaker 5: process goes this way. It sounds like it went the
Speaker 5: ladder unfortunately, and hopefully he recovers.
Speaker 1: So that's the thing for me. Now, I will be honest.
Speaker 1: I before the show started, it may have even been
Speaker 1: at the beginning show, may have been on air. Me
Speaker 1: and Drew were talking about positions for the Jets and
Speaker 1: kind of going each each other's notes, and he did
Speaker 1: not mention quarterback. I'm the one that brought up quarterback
Speaker 1: to him. So I'll throw it over to Drew for
Speaker 1: actually being bullied to pick Kyle McCord. Go ahead, Drew.
Speaker 4: Yeah, for me, Jordan Travis was not really factored into
Speaker 4: my decision making with that pick. He could be a
Speaker 4: guy that works as that third emergency, you know, practice
Speaker 4: squad quarterback there. But I think with the injury issues
Speaker 4: combined with I wasn't really high.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't think I had a draftable grade on him
Speaker 4: coming out because I don't think he's a little athlete.
Speaker 4: I don't think that the between the ears is good
Speaker 4: enough to make up for the lack of athleticism with
Speaker 4: Jordan Dravis. So I don't think he really prevents you
Speaker 4: from I don't think he's in your mind at all
Speaker 4: in your draft strategy. And with Calum McCord, I think
Speaker 4: that's the guy to throw in there to compete with
Speaker 4: with Justin Fields. I don't know that I expect him
Speaker 4: to be a starter at any point in his career,
Speaker 4: but I think when you're in the one sixties, with
Speaker 4: the value there, Kala McCord has the potential to be
Speaker 4: a very very high end backup, you know, a top
Speaker 4: end backup in the league, and when you look at
Speaker 4: that as a very undervalued position and to spend a
Speaker 4: mid to late day three pick and get somebody who
Speaker 4: can be a plug and play starter at a point
Speaker 4: if you really somebody go down. I think calle mcord
Speaker 4: can win you a game here and there. But you know,
Speaker 4: you see Justin Field, you let him have his kind
Speaker 4: of one year try out here, and if you're less
Speaker 4: than you'd expect, you know, maybe you go after this
Speaker 4: really really stacked quarterback class next year. I'm extremely high
Speaker 4: on the twenty twenty six QPS and you'd like cal
Speaker 4: McCord be the rollover back up there. And I think
Speaker 4: this is a guy has has very very long term
Speaker 4: back up potential. So I think Jordan Travis wasn't really
Speaker 4: factoring into that there. But I think if kylevic Cord
Speaker 4: is what I think he is, he's a guy that
Speaker 4: has the potential will be a plug and play starter,
Speaker 4: uh and it just be a very very long term,
Speaker 4: high end back up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense. And I appreciate you, Drew with
Speaker 2: your your knowledge on these drafts. Uh, these draftees. Like
Speaker 2: just like what Ricky said, like, I don't I don't
Speaker 2: have the time, Like I listen to you guys. I
Speaker 2: do my own kind of stuff. I watch the games
Speaker 2: during the year, you know, take some some little mental
Speaker 2: notes about certain players that kind of stand out, you know, kind.
Speaker 4: Of follow up as it goes on.
Speaker 2: But yeah, a solid job with you. My my other
Speaker 2: thing is h schemes obviously with defense, where we know
Speaker 2: with Robert sala with with his scheme and all that
Speaker 2: with defense was just like the D line pressure, pressure rotating,
Speaker 2: just having fresh legs and all that. Obviously this year,
Speaker 2: I don't think that's really what Glenn is gonna be doing.
Speaker 2: So to have like a lot of depth at that position,
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's at the forefront. Do you
Speaker 2: see any other needs as of depth pieces on defense
Speaker 2: that you really think that we really need a stack
Speaker 2: up on.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I did mention boundary corner. I hit that a little
Speaker 4: bit later than I wanted to, because I think in
Speaker 4: Detroit Aaron Glynn played a lot of pressman coverage and
Speaker 4: I think you made a pretty deep corner room with that,
Speaker 4: especially on the boundary, So I think that is probably
Speaker 4: higher on the list once you get to day three
Speaker 4: and you're just going for depth pieces, I think boundary
Speaker 4: corners something they should hit on some a little bit
Speaker 4: earlier than I did. Yeah. I do think that the
Speaker 4: pass resportation is probably not going to be quite as
Speaker 4: big as it was under the Sala kind of administration
Speaker 4: in there. But I do think you probably need a
Speaker 4: little bit more pass rush juice than just quinnin Williams
Speaker 4: because it's a lot for him to take on by himself.
Speaker 4: And I love the additions they made in Free AMC
Speaker 4: as far as is supplementing run defense there, so you
Speaker 4: have the freedom to just go in and get a
Speaker 4: pen your ears back, you know, and these people's or
Speaker 4: over Norman lot. If you go after somebody like that
Speaker 4: in the draft. Yeah, I think Boundary Corner is probably
Speaker 4: the most underrated depth piece that they could use. It's
Speaker 4: such a man coverage heavy system.
Speaker 2: Like agree, because that's basically what helped them in the
Speaker 2: playoffs last year with Glenn just losing peace and he
Speaker 2: was just basically getting like practice squad secondary folks just
Speaker 2: to kind of fill in the gaps or whatever, and
Speaker 2: they still did a pretty decent job.
Speaker 4: So yeah, it makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 2: Uh. I know, you gotta run guys, just you know,
Speaker 2: today for for as maniac madness. Man, I'm on the
Speaker 2: second show. Coffee Club members, you know, come out show
Speaker 2: your support, man, you know, going up against a good
Speaker 2: dude in Bonesy.
Speaker 4: I got a relationship with.
Speaker 2: The guys, a good dude and all that, but you know,
Speaker 2: when it comes to the battle, when it comes to
Speaker 2: nitty gritty, you know, I'm against him. He's not a
Speaker 2: coffee Club member. You know, I'm here the trenches. You
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Rick, Ricky, and why he you know,
Speaker 2: he's also you know, we're pushing where we're coffee club members.
Speaker 2: We're doing this stuff. Meet Beg already said it before
Speaker 2: a month too. All go about us doing something this
Speaker 2: year at a tailgate for a game, there was one
Speaker 2: team named that that was mentioned all whatever, Just so
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna take care of y'all. Man, take care of me, please,
Speaker 2: damn straight.
Speaker 1: Chef Kevin Gilbert, Baby, for God's sake, shure your gads
Speaker 1: darned love. That's true. Will have more details to come
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Speaker 1: Kevin Gilbert will be doing the catering for that food
Speaker 1: an important piece of the puzzle. I do just want
Speaker 1: to say this in case it's not obvious, because right
Speaker 1: like Drew, I've just met now for the first time
Speaker 1: in prison, so hopefully he gets my vibe. But I
Speaker 1: want to say to the same for Ricky. He says,
Speaker 1: BJA wished to try to come at Drew. It all
Speaker 1: just to help you look. And I'm joking around. I'm
Speaker 1: goofing around, guys. It's all jokes and stuff. I love
Speaker 1: for free. Chef, Kevin, go just call Ricky, call you
Speaker 1: guys can call and have healthy debates with Drew. And absolutely,
Speaker 1: I mean Drew for the first time here. Virtually we
Speaker 1: talked over text, but now this is awesome. I wanted
Speaker 1: to be friendly banter. You know, the draft is a draft.
Speaker 1: We all have different opinions, different takes. It's a good
Speaker 1: time and I think we can all just have a
Speaker 1: passionate conversations. We can all disagree. There's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 1: I think that's a fun part of the process, unless
Speaker 1: you know, I think it'd be boring. Ever, everyone just
Speaker 1: had the same big border. We're all this. I guess
Speaker 1: this is it. I guess this is what happens. Debates good.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, that's what kind of makes you fall in love,
Speaker 4: or at least me, it makes me fall in love
Speaker 4: with draft media because when you talk about this, like
Speaker 4: you said, everybody's boards are so different, and at the
Speaker 4: end of the day, draft evaluations are educated guesses. You know,
Speaker 4: we watched the film. We predict on what these guys
Speaker 4: are can be, but nobody knows. It's not exact science,
Speaker 4: and I don't ever, I think that's a that's an
Speaker 4: unfortunate part of of what drafts. Media, especially social media,
Speaker 4: has become where people take disagreements as personal attacks. I mean,
Speaker 4: I don't ever see it that way. I love debates
Speaker 4: anytime people people disagree with me, I want to talk
Speaker 4: through absolutely. I never think especially Rickey, he came in,
Speaker 4: seemed like a very very smart guy. I didn't take
Speaker 4: any of his his disagreements or his mock draft is
Speaker 4: a personal attack whatsoever. I love the debate that kind
Speaker 4: of stuff, So I just appreciate everybody being here, everybody
Speaker 4: calling in. I love the debate and I'm never gonna,
Speaker 4: never gonna take a fense to anything like that.
Speaker 1: I love it all right. Make sure you guys follow
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Speaker 1: juicy deets everybody. Sorry for the callers that are remaining.
Speaker 1: I can't get to you have to run to the
Speaker 1: radio station. But thank you so much, and make sure
Speaker 1: you guys call in next time again. A seven hour
Speaker 1: mock draft takes more time content wise, then I'm sure
Speaker 1: we'll have other conversations in the future where the phone
Speaker 1: lines will be more open and available. Drew, that was awesome, brother,
Speaker 1: and can't wait to do this every Monday. Moving forward,
Speaker 1: Its gonna be a lot of fun, man.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a ton of fun. Thank you again
Speaker 4: for having me on here.
Speaker 1: All right, Thanks everybody. We'll see you tomorrow morning for
Speaker 1: a boy Green Daily. Hey Drew,