Speaker 1: Welcome to Dorkying Out. My name is Sonya Mansfield and Houston.
Speaker 1: We have a problem. Joining me is my podcasting sister
Speaker 1: from Another Mister and the co host of Dorky Out,
Speaker 1: Margot d Hello, my friend.
Speaker 2: Hello, my friend. It's the only line anyone remembers.
Speaker 1: I know, so I thought I would mix it up.
Speaker 1: It's really more of a question, we have a problem.
Speaker 2: Eh.
Speaker 1: I would like to see all the alternate takes on
Speaker 1: that line reading. Now say it like you're mad a problem.
Speaker 1: Now say it like you're happy. We have a problem.
Speaker 2: Well, they had to say it normal because that's how
Speaker 2: they were trained to And that's also what's weird because
Speaker 2: for the all, you know, usually problem indicase that thing's wrong,
Speaker 2: and so people get a little panicked.
Speaker 1: Yes, uh, it would have come out like this for me.
Speaker 2: Here's dad.
Speaker 1: And if you don't, no, no, we're doorking out. About
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety five's Apollo thirteen. It's directed by Ron Howard,
Speaker 1: screenplay by William Broyles Junior al Reinhurt and it's based
Speaker 1: on the book Lost Moon by Jim Lovell and Jeffrey Klueger,
Speaker 1: and it stars Tom Hanks. National Treasure Tom.
Speaker 2: We talked about him before, Yes, just.
Speaker 1: A little bit. I feel like he's come up just
Speaker 1: a few times on this podcast. Kevin Bacon, Bill Paxton,
Speaker 1: Gary Sinise, Ed Harris looking fine at Harris and Kathleen Quinnlan.
Speaker 1: Did you see this in the theater? My friend?
Speaker 2: I think I saw it opening weekend. I was so
Speaker 2: excited to see it. Me too.
Speaker 1: It played at my movie theater, so I saw it
Speaker 1: at some point over that opening weekend, and it played
Speaker 1: at our theater for quite a long time because the
Speaker 1: movie made a gazillion dollars And I loved it then
Speaker 1: and I still love it now. Guess what spoilers. We
Speaker 1: super love it well. I mean I can't speak for Margo. Margo,
Speaker 1: do you still love it?
Speaker 2: Of course, of course I still love it. I brought
Speaker 2: it up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a Margo pick.
Speaker 2: It was my pick.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's just it's so well. First of all, it's
Speaker 1: what my friend Jennifer calls competency poorn where like everybody's
Speaker 1: really smart and good at their jobs, and we like
Speaker 1: to see it. And also the movie's kind of a miracle,
Speaker 1: because how do you make something tense when you know
Speaker 1: the ending?
Speaker 2: But you would tell me stories about people would come
Speaker 2: to the movie theater they didn't know what the movie
Speaker 2: was about.
Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 2: I would explain to them, Yes, someone mean that happened
Speaker 2: in their lifetime.
Speaker 1: Like an older man too, Like an older man who
Speaker 1: was probably, i'm going to say, a teenager probably when
Speaker 1: this happened. And he was like, do I have to
Speaker 1: see the other twelve to understand Apollo thirteen? And at
Speaker 1: first I thought he was joking, like hah, yeah, but
Speaker 1: he wasn't joking. He was very serious, and I was like, no,
Speaker 1: it's about the you know when they went up and
Speaker 1: they couldn't land on the moon, And he seemed to
Speaker 1: know what that was. But yeah, he didn't put it
Speaker 1: all together, I guess.
Speaker 2: But.
Speaker 1: I guess when I saw it, I had heard of it,
Speaker 1: you know, I knew how it ended, but it was
Speaker 1: still very intense. And it was still intense this time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I know, the tension is there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's just there's so many good things. I
Speaker 1: love the cast obviously, and they're so good at it,
Speaker 1: at what they're doing here, and they cast a bunch
Speaker 1: of really likable people that we don't want them to
Speaker 1: get trapped in space and there's this great scene where
Speaker 1: Tom Hanks like explains to his son what they're going
Speaker 1: to do when they go up there, Like he shows
Speaker 1: them on the ships, like with the toys, like we're
Speaker 1: going to do this, and then we do this, and
Speaker 1: we do this, so it's like we understand how it's
Speaker 1: supposed to happen, and then when it goes wrong, that's
Speaker 1: the part where I always get really confused.
Speaker 2: You're not quite as sure what they're doing.
Speaker 1: No, but I still really like it. Like I know
Speaker 1: that you know, something with the oxygen tanks happen and
Speaker 1: they lose all they have to shut down power and
Speaker 1: things like that. But I may not understand all the
Speaker 1: technical aspects, but I think the movie is still dope.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's solid. It's a solid, true historical drama, and
Speaker 2: it's got a little bit of like if you don't
Speaker 2: know what's going to happen. I mean, it does have
Speaker 2: a bit of a mystery to it, but it's also
Speaker 2: fun watching smart people figure shit out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly that I did read that they took almost
Speaker 1: nearly for verbatim, like the transcripts from the recordings that
Speaker 1: the conversations they were having from the space. I was
Speaker 1: gonna say spaceship, but I mean it's technically a space ship,
Speaker 1: the Shuttle and Houston, so a lot of that is
Speaker 1: very accurate, except for the Houston we have a problem
Speaker 1: where I guess he said, okay, Houston, we had a
Speaker 1: problem here or something like that. But that's fine, it
Speaker 1: doesn't ruin the movie. Let me ask you something, would
Speaker 1: you do you have any interest in going into space?
Speaker 2: No? I don't. I find space interesting and I do
Speaker 2: like shows about space, and I do like documentaries about
Speaker 2: the Space program. I find it really interesting. But no,
Speaker 2: the thought of being in zero gravity doesn't excite me.
Speaker 2: And the thought of just being up there and there's nothing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's scary.
Speaker 2: Yeah you don't want to fly up with Katy Perry
Speaker 2: huh fuck, No, that's terrible. She might dance or something
Speaker 2: and yeah, oh she might sing again. Ew.
Speaker 1: I also don't want to go to space. Uh. I
Speaker 1: would never stop vomiting, basically. I know this for a fact.
Speaker 1: And I also like to watch all the documentaries. It's
Speaker 1: the same like I also like to watch the ones
Speaker 1: about the ocean. But I have no interest in good
Speaker 1: and in one of those submarines and going down there
Speaker 1: I'm like, right, that's cool. You just show me the footage.
Speaker 1: It's I'm good now.
Speaker 2: I remember when The Right Stuff came out. I was
Speaker 2: reading that book and I remember very distinctly, and I
Speaker 2: was like twelve and reading about there were a couple
Speaker 2: of the the pilots. They were training them. They had
Speaker 2: to be superhuman first. They had to be male. That's
Speaker 2: that was important. They didn't have any women up there,
Speaker 2: but you had to. You had to go through all
Speaker 2: You couldn't be nearsighted, you couldn't have any blemish on
Speaker 2: your record as far as like your psychology or they
Speaker 2: just like they were searching for people who had like
Speaker 2: iron nerve right, and they didn't know how long you
Speaker 2: would be up there and what it would be like
Speaker 2: to be in zero gravity or whatever. So I remember
Speaker 2: there was one part where the men had they they
Speaker 2: how do I say this, But they gave.
Speaker 3: Them a lot of food and laxatives, and then they
Speaker 3: had a duck walk and they couldn't make an error,
Speaker 3: so they had to walk like oh yeah, and that
Speaker 3: image stuck and they did it like okay, if that's
Speaker 3: what I gotta do, yeah, because yeah, to them, it's
Speaker 3: mine over matter. It's just whatever, like the in door,
Speaker 3: whatever indignity they have to And I was like, I
Speaker 3: am not made of the right stuff, like this snow.
Speaker 2: My stuff is way off key compared to theirs.
Speaker 1: My stuff is way.
Speaker 2: Off It's not it's not near not they need. So
Speaker 2: I've always went like that's always stuck in my head,
Speaker 2: like pilots have been through that. And I love the
Speaker 2: the first woman that went into space. I think they
Speaker 2: they thought her period might happen. So what did they
Speaker 2: put like one hundred and thirty tampons? It was it
Speaker 2: was like a ridiculous number.
Speaker 1: Right, it was going to be up there for a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, I think, right.
Speaker 2: And right, it wasn't that long. But they but like nobody,
Speaker 2: no one knew the correct number. So they just were like,
Speaker 2: I get they aired on the side of caution, but like,
Speaker 2: but oh my, like we would never be out of
Speaker 2: the bathroom if that was the case.
Speaker 4: But anyway, they're so smart about all these other things,
Speaker 4: but not that not that right, Yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 4: guess it's better to be safe than sorry, but okay,
Speaker 4: but yeah, anyway, let's talk about Apollo thirteen. So it
Speaker 4: it's telling the story of these three astronauts that Neil
Speaker 4: Armstrong and buzz Ald, they've all already gone to the
Speaker 4: Moon and like they've done the walk, and like Jim
Speaker 4: Lovell played by Tom Hanks, has been up in orbit.
Speaker 4: He's orbited the moon, but he hasn't landed on the Moon.
Speaker 4: And he it's like his dream. He wants to get
Speaker 4: up there. And I love his relationship with his wife
Speaker 4: in the movie. And Kathleen Quinlan is so good in this,
Speaker 4: and you know, he's just he wants his he wants
Speaker 4: his moment. He wants to get on the moon.
Speaker 1: And his team is Bill Paxton and Gary Sinise. And
Speaker 1: this is right after like this is a year later
Speaker 1: after Forrest Gump.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Stand. He had a big year.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's right. I love the Stand.
Speaker 2: I love that's good.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I haven't watched the new one, the later.
Speaker 2: One, but we should do that one day.
Speaker 1: The Stand, the original one. Oh yeah, I'm down for
Speaker 1: that anytime.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: I was a fan back in the day of that one.
Speaker 1: Oh good, that would be fun. But I never read
Speaker 1: the book, so you would you would be bringing the knowledge.
Speaker 1: So they are training to go up, but they're going
Speaker 1: to go on Apollo fourteen, and another team is going
Speaker 1: to go on thirteen. And then something happens that they
Speaker 1: they get the call they are they are going up,
Speaker 1: and also in that process, they find out that Gary
Speaker 1: Sinisee's Gary sinise has been exposed to the measles. And
Speaker 1: this is back when we all cared abouts.
Speaker 2: About Public House.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so there's a whole thing about he can't Now
Speaker 1: he can't go up. What if he infects everybody? What
Speaker 1: if it uh yeah like breaks out and get it?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, so he he can't go, and they
Speaker 1: replace him with Kevin Bacon, who's kind of like a younger,
Speaker 1: hot shot guy. And now they're getting right, you know,
Speaker 1: they're doing all the training, and it is really sad
Speaker 1: when he has to tell Gary Sinise like, you don't
Speaker 1: get to go, and you know, he's super bummed out
Speaker 1: and he I feel bad for him. And Jim Level
Speaker 1: is such a such a boss that he takes the
Speaker 1: I guess, the blame for it, even though he does, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not his. It wasn't his call, Like, I mean,
Speaker 1: his call was they could wait and go up another time,
Speaker 1: or they could go up with Kevin Bacon, And he
Speaker 1: decides to just go up with Kevin Bacon. So it
Speaker 1: was like kind of his call, but not really, and
Speaker 1: he says like it was my decision, and he just
Speaker 1: he's a really strong leader, and I like how he is.
Speaker 1: He is nice to people and he knows he seems
Speaker 1: to know everybody's names, and because you're trusting these people
Speaker 1: with your life. But also he is very direct and clear,
Speaker 1: and he doesn't put up with bullshit, like when they're
Speaker 1: all arguing up there and he's like, that's enough, we
Speaker 1: have to get home, Like who cares. So I really
Speaker 1: appreciate his character. Think this movie does a really good
Speaker 1: job of showing how fucking scary it is to go
Speaker 1: into space.
Speaker 2: I think it's scary. Also. I remember when I was
Speaker 2: reading the reviews for this movie to see the movie,
Speaker 2: and I think it was Roger Eberts. He said at
Speaker 2: one point, like, the power used in this laptop that
Speaker 2: I'm typing into right now is more than they had
Speaker 2: on that ship at that point, Like at some point
Speaker 2: they had to shut everything down. And that's a terrifying thought.
Speaker 1: So terrifying, and just the technology that they had in
Speaker 1: the sixties and early seventies, they were able to send
Speaker 1: someone to the fucking moon and still have a camera
Speaker 1: and talk to them and they could breathe and eat
Speaker 1: and piss and all the stuff that they're doing up there.
Speaker 1: And I just can't even believe how fucking scary that
Speaker 1: must have been to just get in a space in
Speaker 1: a fucking rocket and a rocket and they right and
Speaker 1: send you up there when you have no idea what
Speaker 1: to expect. Now, we have little phones that we bring
Speaker 1: with us everywhere and can answer like every question for us,
Speaker 1: and we can reach out and talk to people anytime
Speaker 1: we want. And here's this thing like forty fifty sixty
Speaker 1: years ago where they could send them up into nothing.
Speaker 1: It's that It's very scary to me. Yeah, it sounds
Speaker 1: absolutely terrifying. And I think they do a good job
Speaker 1: of all three of their performances, Kevin Bacon and Bill
Speaker 1: Paxton rip And.
Speaker 2: I know I was thinking about that, Yeah, I was.
Speaker 2: I was doing some work on my carry book. And
Speaker 2: Bill Paxton was friends with Sissy Spaces husband Jack Fisk.
Speaker 2: They were like from the same place, I think, but
Speaker 2: he started as an art director and he worked for
Speaker 2: Jack Fisk, and uh, when in Carrie, there's like a
Speaker 2: point where they were talking about outside of Carrie's house,
Speaker 2: there's a sign that says Paxton Realty. And I was like,
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, that's so sweet. They had something for
Speaker 2: Bill and I'm like, god, he must have been super
Speaker 2: young then and now he's gone. And it's he was
Speaker 2: so good and everything he did it, oh good, always great,
Speaker 2: and he could do comedy and he could do drama
Speaker 2: and he could just do everything. And everyone just said
Speaker 2: he was the nicest person. And it's you know, that's
Speaker 2: what you see.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how can like someone who can play someone like
Speaker 1: Hudson in Aliens and or in Weird Science, make what.
Speaker 2: We fucking do?
Speaker 1: Yeah, make yourself one digweed? Like he could play someone
Speaker 1: like that and then play someone like this who you
Speaker 1: could tell is like he's just so good. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: and he's like got like a whole herd of kids
Speaker 1: and a pregnant wife and oh I love Bill Paxston
Speaker 1: and I miss him as an actor. He was so good.
Speaker 1: Oh it's so good. And where was I going with that?
Speaker 2: They?
Speaker 1: Yeah, go up to space. Everything seems to be going well.
Speaker 1: It's interesting that they are going to show. It's it's
Speaker 1: already old news that people are going to the movie.
Speaker 2: Right, it's been like six months since it happened, So
Speaker 2: they're always like they're already like what else is on?
Speaker 2: Is laughing on so shitty? Like dun Smoke? Should we
Speaker 2: watch that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, they think there's gonna be there. They have the
Speaker 1: cameras on and they're giving them a tour the shuttle
Speaker 1: and they're doing their like jokes and like trying to
Speaker 1: be really educational and give people like something really interesting
Speaker 1: to watch, and like all the networks, all all three
Speaker 1: of them have already cut away from them. They're not interested,
Speaker 1: like we've already been to the moon wat like such
Speaker 1: old news. And it's so sad when they're just like, no,
Speaker 1: we'll just tell them after they land, and they just
Speaker 1: keep going giving the tour, doing all the funny things,
Speaker 1: and his wife, Level's wife is there just going oh,
Speaker 1: it's so like it's such a big deal that they're
Speaker 1: in fucking space and everyone's.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's the way it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean it's true.
Speaker 2: But it is also like it does show you like
Speaker 2: how rough it must be for an astronaut's wife to be.
Speaker 2: You have to be perfect, you know, for all the press,
Speaker 2: when you must be an anxious person like me. I
Speaker 2: couldn't handle it.
Speaker 1: No, no, there there's a whole thing about Lovel's wife.
Speaker 1: That's Kathleen Quinlan. She has like a nightmare that something
Speaker 1: happens up at space and that he's going to die.
Speaker 1: She starts to get really nervous about it. She's like,
Speaker 1: maybe I don't go to the launch, you know, And
Speaker 1: he is very nice about it. He's like, well, you
Speaker 1: always go, but you know, okay, like, and he can
Speaker 1: tell she's making a lot of excuses, but she decides
Speaker 1: to go anyway at the last minute because they super
Speaker 1: love each other and you want to it's a big deal,
Speaker 1: and it's a big fucking deal, like yeah, like going
Speaker 1: into space, so you know. She she shows up and
Speaker 1: then the whole thing with like the shuttle or the
Speaker 1: rocket takes off and they're immediately sworn by the press,
Speaker 1: and she says to Bill Paxton's wife like, remember, we're happy,
Speaker 1: proud and thrilled, and immediately they're like, we're so happy.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I couldn't be more proud.
Speaker 2: I'm so thrilled. This is the greatest thing ever.
Speaker 1: When really I would just be at home, I would I.
Speaker 2: Would be in an old bathrobe, smoking cigarettes, pacing, just
Speaker 2: looking really rough.
Speaker 1: I would show over it. I would show up at
Speaker 1: your place, Margot with a box wine in my old robe.
Speaker 2: Let's just let's just do it.
Speaker 1: Let's just watch some dick cab it and cry and
Speaker 1: drink this boxed wine.
Speaker 2: It's yeah, it's unbelievable, Like just how much stress that
Speaker 2: is on the family, and just like what do you
Speaker 2: do with that stress? Do you watch the rehearsal by
Speaker 2: the way on.
Speaker 1: I haven't watched it yet, but my friend Rain was
Speaker 1: telling me, She's like, you're missing out.
Speaker 2: You need to. Yeah. Yeah, because Nathan Fielder, who creates
Speaker 2: that show. This season it's all about pilots, and it's
Speaker 2: airline pilots, and he he's trying to figure out, like
Speaker 2: how can you lower the risk of crashes and he's
Speaker 2: just looking into the personalities of pilots and he decides
Speaker 2: that there's so much hierarchy that's used that a person
Speaker 2: that is of lower rank is going to just automatically
Speaker 2: divert to their boss. And it's in those split second
Speaker 2: moments that you have to be free to say no,
Speaker 2: you did that wrong. I know this is supposed to
Speaker 2: be over here, it can't be there and that would
Speaker 2: save lives, like basically, but there's such a hierarchy and
Speaker 2: it's like they're so strong willed to do what they
Speaker 2: do that they have to believe in it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is so interesting. I hadn't even thought about that, right, Well,
Speaker 1: now I'm definitely going to watch and check it out.
Speaker 1: Isn't that supposed to be a comedy.
Speaker 2: It's supposed to be a comedy. And it's like, I'm
Speaker 2: not usually the biggest fan of cringe comedy, and he's
Speaker 2: really all about cringe comedy. Like, yeah, he does things
Speaker 2: way too long and holds the beat way too long
Speaker 2: and all that stuff. But it is really interesting, I mean,
Speaker 2: and it's like everyone's interested in like lowering the number
Speaker 2: of crashes except for the guy that runs the yeah
Speaker 2: thing now, except except for that guy, God Duffy of
Speaker 2: Real World Boston, the lumberjack from Boston.
Speaker 1: So embarrassing, so embarrassing. Yeah, he doesn't seem to care,
Speaker 1: but the rest of us do. Yeah, that would be great,
Speaker 1: We would love to lower plane crashes. That's you, but
Speaker 1: that yeah, go ahead, sorry, but.
Speaker 2: Well he comes up with a script and he's like,
Speaker 2: you say, you're Captain all Ears, and I'll be Captain
Speaker 2: Blunt or something, and Blunt just says what's on their
Speaker 2: mind without any kind of fear of retribution, and Captain
Speaker 2: all Years is supposed to be like, no, give me feedback.
Speaker 2: If I'm doing it wrong, you need to tell like
Speaker 2: and so it's but it's also trusting those things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so anyway, I'm watching this tonight. I'm watching this tonight.
Speaker 1: Like that that applies for aviation, it would also apply
Speaker 1: to any job, I think, Like, yes, I definitely as
Speaker 1: someone who works in tech, I know a lot of
Speaker 1: bosses who could It would be lovely for them to
Speaker 1: get some feedback.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, people get to a certain level and they
Speaker 2: don't get feedback. But and I think it's really interesting
Speaker 2: in the movie that there's a whole sequence where Jim
Speaker 2: just has to do regular math and that's all. And
Speaker 2: it's not, well, it's not math I could do obviously,
Speaker 2: it's physics or whatever it is. But everybody there, I mean,
Speaker 2: it just goes back to that old school stuff. Yes,
Speaker 2: And my mom said when she married my dad, because
Speaker 2: my dad was a math nerd, he had that instrument
Speaker 2: that they're using, Like they're all measure.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's like a ruler, but with like a ruler, yeah,
Speaker 1: with a thing with a slide thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And she's like, I would play, you know, solitaire, and
Speaker 2: your day would do that, like when we couldn't sleep,
Speaker 2: Like it was just.
Speaker 1: Like everyone's brains are so interesting.
Speaker 2: So interesting and different exactly.
Speaker 1: But I'm glad you bring up the math part because something,
Speaker 1: you know, something goes wrong on the shuttle and they
Speaker 1: have their Houston we have a problem and they're trying
Speaker 1: to figure out what the problem is. And there's all
Speaker 1: these very smart people in Houston and they're led by
Speaker 1: Ed Harris, who is wearing like a vest that his
Speaker 1: wife makes him, I guess, and it has like a
Speaker 1: little patch on it, and you know he's got the
Speaker 1: hair piece on. He looks he looks very handsome. He does,
Speaker 1: and it's I looked it up. Ed Harris has like
Speaker 1: never won an Oscar and I'm like, how can that be,
Speaker 1: because I feel.
Speaker 2: Like he's been nominated though, right he's done. He was.
Speaker 1: I think he's nominate for this movie. Actually more on
Speaker 1: that later, but he has never won, and I think
Speaker 1: he's going to be one of those people that like
Speaker 1: is going to get an honorary Oscar someday or or
Speaker 1: he's going to live for a really long time, and
Speaker 1: then eventually they'll be like, oh shit, Ed Harris never
Speaker 1: won an Oscar, Like.
Speaker 2: What was he in last year? Oh he was in
Speaker 2: this thing and he was pretty good. Great, let's nominate.
Speaker 1: He's definitely going to get one of those. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: gonna happen. But and again, he's very very good in
Speaker 1: this about like failure is not an option, like just
Speaker 1: just putting it on the chalkboard, like they are here,
Speaker 1: we need to get them here, figure it out, right,
Speaker 1: And he gives them room to like to figure it out.
Speaker 1: And I think the scene where there's like a breakoff,
Speaker 1: like a group that kind of splits off into another
Speaker 1: room and they're like, you need to figure out how
Speaker 1: to like make a filter for their air so that
Speaker 1: they're not breathing so much CO two And here's all
Speaker 1: the things in the shuttle that you can do to
Speaker 1: to maybe build a filter. Make it fucking happen, And
Speaker 1: they do it like they're so they're all so smart.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the problem solvers.
Speaker 1: Yes, And back to the competency poorn. I'm like so hot.
Speaker 2: That somebody's like looking for someone else to do their
Speaker 2: I know, and also like not being lazy. I mean
Speaker 2: also just taking accountability and going in there and just
Speaker 2: rolling up for sleeves and just doing it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all of those things. Meanwhile, Gary Snise, who didn't
Speaker 1: get to go up, is like sitting at home. He's
Speaker 1: like drinking, He's like watching Dick Caveot. He's like all
Speaker 1: pissed off, and they finally like show up and get
Speaker 1: him because they want him. He knows the inside of
Speaker 1: that shuttle better than anybody, so they've got him. Him
Speaker 1: back there now running like different scenarios and trying to
Speaker 1: figure out ways. And there's this scene where Kevin Bacon,
Speaker 1: his replacement, says like, I wish you were here to
Speaker 1: see this, and he says, I bet you do. I
Speaker 1: just thought it was so so spot on. And Sinise
Speaker 1: is so good in And he's another one too where
Speaker 1: I'm like, someday he's probably gonna get one of those
Speaker 1: Lifetime Achievement oscars because he probably should have won for
Speaker 1: Forrest Gump. But he's really good in this too.
Speaker 2: Yeah he will, he probably will.
Speaker 1: I mean I think he lost to Tommy Lee Jones
Speaker 1: or something. And I mean that's a pretty good performance too.
Speaker 2: So what do you get? Yeah you can't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's see where are we now? Oh yeah, so
Speaker 1: they're all working to try to figure out how to
Speaker 1: get them home. You know what, This would be a
Speaker 1: good double feature with hidden figures.
Speaker 2: If you liked hidden figures, yes, oh did you? Oh no? Oh?
Speaker 1: Interesting?
Speaker 2: No, we did a book versus movie about it, and
Speaker 2: the original book and the original and the real people
Speaker 2: the women that are yeah talked about and what they
Speaker 2: put on that screen are two different things. And it's
Speaker 2: not nearly as good as it should. And it also
Speaker 2: makes Kevin Kevin Kevin Costner. It makes Kevin Costner the
Speaker 2: white Savior. Oh yeah. Yeah. There's like a bathroom scene
Speaker 2: where he like takes down it and it's something that
Speaker 2: never fucking happened because they took down the colored signs
Speaker 2: when they put them up every time. Yeah, so it's
Speaker 2: like less of.
Speaker 1: A okay, yeah, so it's a very Hollywood version of
Speaker 1: that story exactly. Oh okay, well then never mind, let's
Speaker 1: just pair it with the right stuff then.
Speaker 2: Which is too long, So it would be like.
Speaker 1: I would be an epic double feature.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it goes on I mean that movie goes on
Speaker 2: and on and on, but I yeah, they're they're both
Speaker 2: about people putting their lives at.
Speaker 1: Risk for science, yes, which hits me in a sore
Speaker 1: spot right now, Like we're in a country that is
Speaker 1: shitting all over science on a daily basis. So maybe
Speaker 1: that's another reason why the movie was hitting me in
Speaker 1: a soft spot on this U because you know, we've
Speaker 1: got to I mean, Elon Musk is running his SpaceX
Speaker 1: and I'm like, his his stuff blows up, like every
Speaker 1: week something's blowing up. And I'm like, we've literally sent
Speaker 1: people to the Moon and Mars and things haven't blown up.
Speaker 1: So I don't know what he's doing wrong. I have
Speaker 1: a lot of thoughts and feelings about Elon Musk, and
Speaker 1: that's for another show. Yeah, that's for our other podcast. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but yes, all these people are smart and they're doing
Speaker 1: the right things. There's I think the movie also does
Speaker 1: a really good job of showing the toll that going
Speaker 1: into space is taking on them as they're they're powering
Speaker 1: things off, so they're starting to get really cold. The
Speaker 1: Bill Paxton character like it's a urinary track infection. He
Speaker 1: gets like a crazy fever. Oh it looks really off.
Speaker 1: It sounds awful, sounds off, like, imagine being sick and
Speaker 1: you're in fucking space. That sounds terrible.
Speaker 2: Have you ever flown sick? I have? Yeah, when I should.
Speaker 2: I probably shouldn't have, but I wanted to get home
Speaker 2: kind of thing. And I was on a business trip
Speaker 2: and I remember it was like a UTI situation. Oh
Speaker 2: and it was the longest flight of my life.
Speaker 1: That sounds miserable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sorry, friend, I wouldn't do it now, but
Speaker 2: I'm all.
Speaker 1: That makes me sweaty just thinking about Oh oh no.
Speaker 1: And there's they do a lot in this movie that is,
Speaker 1: they are confined to this very small space in this
Speaker 1: movie and still like so much is happening. And there's
Speaker 1: this argument between the three of them in which the
Speaker 1: Kevin Bacon character is saying that they are doomed and
Speaker 1: that Mission control knows it and it's not sharing that
Speaker 1: with them because they don't want them freaking out, and
Speaker 1: they are like they get into an argument about it.
Speaker 1: The Bill Paxson characters really sick all of that is happening.
Speaker 1: And that's when like Tom Hanks comes in and he's
Speaker 1: like enough, like we're just trying to get home. We're
Speaker 1: not we're not doing this. We're not looking to blame people.
Speaker 2: We're not.
Speaker 1: Focus you know, focus here. So they I guess eventually,
Speaker 1: like Gary Sinie's character figures out a way for them
Speaker 1: to save some power by like reversing something, and then
Speaker 1: on top of that, someone else figures out a way
Speaker 1: to use the Moon's gravity to like slingshot it back
Speaker 1: to Earth. It's it's I'm putting it in the like
Speaker 1: most language.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't have to explain it, so you get
Speaker 2: to it, Okay, just get do it. Yeah, get to it.
Speaker 1: So they are coming back. Meanwhile, the press has shown
Speaker 1: up at like Kathleen Catherine Quinlan's house, like the press
Speaker 1: is which is so gruesome. They're just like waiting for
Speaker 1: her to like come out and cry and like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, be upset for them. It's so the press
Speaker 1: can be so gross, but they I do think it's
Speaker 1: kind of funny that like Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong
Speaker 1: are there and they're just chilling with the old grandma.
Speaker 2: Like it's just like, yeah, have you heard of my son?
Speaker 1: Like yeah, him, yeah, to her last summer, Yeah, to
Speaker 1: her the most famous astronaut in the world is Jim Lovell,
Speaker 1: And meanwhile she has the two most famous astronauts in
Speaker 1: the world pouring her iced tea and trying to distract
Speaker 1: her from any kind of bad news that might be
Speaker 1: coming across as the TV. Across the TV, and there's
Speaker 1: like Jim Lovel's like oldest son is at a military
Speaker 1: academy while all this is going on, and he's watching
Speaker 1: at school and I'm like, y'all can't give him the
Speaker 1: day off.
Speaker 2: He can't be in the principal's office watching this with
Speaker 2: all his friends. Yeah, I'm like, what if it explodes,
Speaker 2: Like what are we Yeah.
Speaker 1: Give the kid a day off. Man. Anyway, so they
Speaker 1: you know, do their slingshot thing and they head back,
Speaker 1: you know, the thing comes and they are out of touch.
Speaker 1: They are like in a blackout for like four minutes,
Speaker 1: and it's like the longest four minutes in the world,
Speaker 1: waiting to hear if they are alive, and you know
Speaker 1: they are, and they splash down and they come out
Speaker 1: and it's like it's such a like America like moment,
Speaker 1: and I love an America moment. And you know they're
Speaker 1: good and everyone's happy and they're all celebrating back in
Speaker 1: Houston and they do a really quick voiceover to tell you,
Speaker 1: like what happened to everybody? And like Jim Level doesn't
Speaker 1: go to space again. And the stuff about Bill Paxton's
Speaker 1: character was really sad, like, yeah, he.
Speaker 2: Dies, Yeah I know? Or no, is it Kevin Bacon
Speaker 2: that dies? Uh?
Speaker 1: No, I think it's the Bill Paxton? Oh that he
Speaker 1: Oh no, you're right, it is the Kevin Bacon character.
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. He runs for Congress but then before
Speaker 1: he even like takes his seat he dies of cancer
Speaker 1: or something like. It's a lot of really there's some
Speaker 1: sad stuff in there, but but the movie itself is
Speaker 1: not sad. And I just think it's really really fucking good, y'all.
Speaker 1: And if you're looking for an America fuck yeah movie,
Speaker 1: this is the one. This is a good one.
Speaker 2: He died in nineteen eighty two.
Speaker 1: As he was running for Congress.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's just sad. Yeah, he's buried in Fairmount, Colorado.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, what happened to jack Swire East? Did? He
Speaker 2: was fifty one? Wow?
Speaker 1: Jim Love is still alive? Dude's like ninety seven?
Speaker 2: Wow? Yeah, isn't buzz Aldron still alive? Oh? My?
Speaker 1: God, is he Let's look at.
Speaker 2: It, buzz Aldron, uh Aldron, let's see quick facts. Is
Speaker 2: he fucking alive?
Speaker 1: You're all that should be the quick bag.
Speaker 2: Now he's ninety five.
Speaker 1: He's ninety five, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: Ninety five that is and he got married a year ago,
Speaker 2: two years ago. Conka four, that is a that's she's
Speaker 2: his fifth wife, fourth wife.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's optimistic right there, Yeah, it is.
Speaker 2: Damn.
Speaker 1: What about Neil Armstrong. We're all just googling astro he's
Speaker 1: eighty Oh no, he died. He died a eighty two.
Speaker 1: He died in twenty twelve. Okay, but imagine even living,
Speaker 1: they go into space, they put their bodies through this
Speaker 1: really traumatic thing, and the fact that they could still
Speaker 1: live that long.
Speaker 2: Damn, you're going to be shocked to find out that
Speaker 2: aunc is a lot younger than buzz what thirty years?
Speaker 2: I mean, she's in her sixties. So it's not like it's,
Speaker 2: you know, she's an adult.
Speaker 1: It's not a Bill Belichick.
Speaker 2: Sit a Belichick situation.
Speaker 1: She has to be younger, like what if she wantn't.
Speaker 1: I mean, she's ninety six, she has to be so
Speaker 1: I read that John Travolta was actually really interested in
Speaker 1: the Tom Hanks role, but.
Speaker 2: He was sure because he's a pilot.
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, but he was politely turned down. John Cusack
Speaker 1: was offered a role that went to Bill Paxton, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, he might have been good.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Brad Pitt was offered the role that Kevin Bacon plays,
Speaker 1: but he turned it down to do seven, which was
Speaker 1: a good I mean for him, Yeah, good choice for him.
Speaker 1: And then this is the perfect Kevin Bacon role. It is,
Speaker 1: and he's like, he's perfect for it. He's great. I
Speaker 1: love Kevin Bacon's Kevin Bacon's one of my guys, you
Speaker 1: know where they talk about like actors that you just love.
Speaker 1: I love Kevin Bacon, even when he plays a creep. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I still love him. And then I guess. Gary Sonise
Speaker 1: was invited to read for any character he wanted, and
Speaker 1: he chose the Ken Maddingly character. So good for you, Sonise.
Speaker 1: The movie was nominated for nine Oscars, so I thought
Speaker 1: we would like to go through the Oscar nominations instead
Speaker 1: of instead of all the other movies. Let me, I
Speaker 1: guess we'll start with Best Picture. So nominated for Best Picture,
Speaker 1: other movies sense and sensibility.
Speaker 2: I've heard of it.
Speaker 1: I like it. L Postino, the Postman, never saw it,
Speaker 1: never saw it. Babe, that's the Pig, same Babe.
Speaker 2: That'll do pig.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that'll do Pig. I love Babe. I think it's
Speaker 1: very cute. And then the winner was Brave Heart. I
Speaker 1: remember really liking Brave Heart at the time, but now
Speaker 1: I wonder if I would really like Brave Heart.
Speaker 2: I remember liking it too, but I remember like thinking,
Speaker 2: I'm never gonna watch this again.
Speaker 1: It's it's not a movie I've gone back to ever
Speaker 1: now and it's not what I would have I would
Speaker 1: have gone with Apollo thirteen for Best Picture over this.
Speaker 1: Actually I probably would have picked Babe because I thought.
Speaker 2: It was so good. You're a vegetarian or vegan.
Speaker 1: I am a vegan. It speaks, it speaks to me.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: It was not nominated for directing, so we'll just skip that.
Speaker 1: Best Supporting Actor Ed Harris was nominated, as he should
Speaker 1: be because he was really good. Other people nominated Tim
Speaker 1: Roth for rob Roy.
Speaker 2: I don't even remember that.
Speaker 1: Rob Roy was like the TEAMU. Brave Heart like came
Speaker 1: out that year, was like the same kind of thing
Speaker 1: with Liam Neeson and Jessica Lang. I actually I shouldn't
Speaker 1: call it the team MoU Braveheart because I remember actually
Speaker 1: really liking Rob Roy and Tim Roth plays a villain
Speaker 1: and he's very Sheriff of Noddingham. Brad Pitt for Twelve Monkeys, Yeah,
Speaker 1: James Cromwell for Babe, and then Kevin Spacey for The
Speaker 1: Usual Suspects was the winner.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's another thirtieth anniversary right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's really really good in the movie.
Speaker 2: He's great in the movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, sucks. Good actor though. Catherine Quinlan was nominated
Speaker 1: for Best Supporting Actress. Other people Kate Winslet for Sense
Speaker 1: and Sensibility.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Mayor Winningham, Georgia, do you want to how do you
Speaker 1: pronounce her name again?
Speaker 2: Georgia?
Speaker 1: No, Mayor Winningham, Mayor of Winningham.
Speaker 2: That's the show, the Mayor of something or other.
Speaker 1: And then Joan Allen was nominated for Nixon, and.
Speaker 2: Then yeah, I don't remember Nixon at all.
Speaker 1: You're I think you're fine. And then Marror Cervino for
Speaker 1: Mighty Aphrodite.
Speaker 2: She played a prostitute. Yeah, that's a thing at the time.
Speaker 2: You play a prostitute, you get an automatic yeap oscar
Speaker 2: nom and you usually win. Yeah.
Speaker 1: My apologies to Mikey Madsen who just one, but she
Speaker 1: also played a sex worker. Best Writing Screenplay, adapt sorry,
Speaker 1: adapted Screenplay. Il Postino was nominated again. Haven't seen it
Speaker 1: Leaving Las Vegas hilarious.
Speaker 2: That is such a fun movie. Oh my god, so fun, babe.
Speaker 1: Apollo thirteen I already mentioned that, and then the winner
Speaker 1: was sense its sasibility Emma Thompson, Yeah, which I like that.
Speaker 1: And then I think Apollo thirteen one. We don't need
Speaker 1: to go through all of these, but it won for score,
Speaker 1: it won for sound, and it won for I want
Speaker 1: to say, yes, film editing. So there you go.
Speaker 2: Is that your list?
Speaker 1: That's my list?
Speaker 2: Okay, So this is the list of the top ten
Speaker 2: songs for when this came out. I think it was
Speaker 2: June thirtieth, ish on there, okay, nineteen ninety five, so
Speaker 2: number ten, Montel Jordan. This is how we do it.
Speaker 1: Heay, I know that one.
Speaker 2: We know that one. Number nine a Dina Howard freak
Speaker 2: like me.
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know that one. Actually, I feel like
Speaker 1: I should know most of these, so but not that one.
Speaker 2: Number eight I'll be there for you. You're all I need
Speaker 2: to get by Method Man and Mary J. Blige.
Speaker 1: Yes, I do know that one, and I really liked
Speaker 1: it at the time.
Speaker 2: Number seven TLC Waterfalls. You couldn't escape that song that summer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like you still can't. I love TLC.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Same, Number six Boys to Men water runs Dry.
Speaker 2: I don't know what that's.
Speaker 1: I don't know that one, but it probably sounds like
Speaker 1: all their other songs, so yeah.
Speaker 2: For them, I'm sure it's in harmony. Uh. Number five
Speaker 2: Scream Michael Jackson and Janet jack.
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know that one.
Speaker 2: Number four Nikki French Total Eclipse of the Heart.
Speaker 1: Well, I know Total Eclipse of the Heart, but I
Speaker 1: don't know that version.
Speaker 2: No. And then number three Notorious Big One More Chance.
Speaker 1: Oh all right, yes, yes.
Speaker 2: Number two, don't take it personal, Monica.
Speaker 1: I don't know that one.
Speaker 2: I don't either. No. And then Bryan Adams number one
Speaker 2: have you ever really loved one? Oh my god, I'm
Speaker 2: sure that's don Juan DeMarco.
Speaker 1: Yes, that movie played at my movie theater, So I
Speaker 1: heard that song five times a day pretty much every
Speaker 1: day for like two months. Uh, and I never liked it,
Speaker 1: you never no, And it played over the end credits,
Speaker 1: and the end credits had like Marlon Brando and Fade
Speaker 1: Dunaway dancing together. Oh, and it was like it was
Speaker 1: just awkward and weird, and we all hated cleaning that
Speaker 1: theater because the song sucked. But at least we know
Speaker 1: some of the songs this time, so yay for us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, versus last week where we were totally shut out.
Speaker 1: That was hilarious. What else are you dorkying out about?
Speaker 1: My friend?
Speaker 2: I saw Hacks last night, me doo, and I really
Speaker 2: enjoyed it. Me too. It was the season finale. I like,
Speaker 2: I don't like it when they're fighting. I like it
Speaker 2: better when they get along.
Speaker 1: Me too, same.
Speaker 2: But I'm glad they they've been through what they've been through.
Speaker 2: I love that show. It's so smart, couple's therapy. I've
Speaker 2: been watching it's on Paramount.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, And what do you think?
Speaker 2: It's just it's very addictive, like you just it loves you,
Speaker 2: like all these different stories and some of these couples
Speaker 2: you root for, and some of these couples are har
Speaker 2: a fine yes, and you don't know what they're even
Speaker 2: what they see at each other much less. Yeah, why
Speaker 2: you know, I it's it's really it's so interesting and
Speaker 2: some of these people you wind up hating so much. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but but then it turns out they're really messed up.
Speaker 1: And yeah, it's a it's a fascinating show. And like,
Speaker 1: I don't are you watching the current season or are
Speaker 1: you catching up?
Speaker 2: I'm catching up because I don't have showtime, so I
Speaker 2: think it's just the first few seasons are streaming on Paramount,
Speaker 2: so I've just been like watching them. Yeah, but I've
Speaker 2: never watched it before. But the therapist is really good.
Speaker 1: She is really good.
Speaker 2: She's really strong. I mean, that's got to be a
Speaker 2: stressful job.
Speaker 1: So stressful. I don't know how therapists do it, and
Speaker 1: that I don't know how they don't take sides like
Speaker 1: I would want to. Yeah, I would want to jump
Speaker 1: in and be like no, no, no, we don't talk
Speaker 1: to her like that, you know, but she does a
Speaker 1: very good job of holding boundaries and pushing for clear communication.
Speaker 1: But yeah, some of those earlier seasons, you're I'm like, you,
Speaker 1: y'all don't even like each other, right, let alone love
Speaker 1: each other.
Speaker 2: The contempt that people have, Yeah, and that, and she
Speaker 2: cuts it down like she she shuts it down right
Speaker 2: away when she sees it and hears it. She does.
Speaker 2: But it's like some of these people are just you know,
Speaker 2: there's the lesbian couple. Yeah, where that person is just like,
Speaker 2: I really want to have sex with another person and
Speaker 2: bring it into our relationship. How come you're not really
Speaker 2: excited about this?
Speaker 1: But by the way that comes up, And I want
Speaker 1: to say a majority of the seasons of couple therapy
Speaker 1: is a is someone who wants to open their relationship
Speaker 1: or has opened their relationship and how that plays out.
Speaker 1: And then one of the seasons they actually had a
Speaker 1: thrupple yes as that. And this was fascinating to me
Speaker 1: because in my brain, I don't know how you make
Speaker 1: that work. Like my brain is like does not compute
Speaker 1: like it right, And then to see them talk about
Speaker 1: their issues and how they're so like they're fine. It's
Speaker 1: like they're fine with the sex part, it's like the
Speaker 1: other part it's the like, well you weren't. You're not
Speaker 1: there for me when I need you because you're with
Speaker 1: this other. It's never about the sex, it's about the
Speaker 1: emotions involved. And I just don't know how they do it,
Speaker 1: and but it's it's a really interesting show. And I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: some of these people you're they're kind of terrible, and
Speaker 1: I'm fascinated that they agreed to be on the.
Speaker 2: Show, right, I mean, is it good? Is it free therapy?
Speaker 2: Like is it like in exchange for no cost? You
Speaker 2: just let them film it? Because she charges a lot
Speaker 2: of money, Like I think she's like seven hundred an
Speaker 2: hour or something like Damn, she's really really like high
Speaker 2: up there.
Speaker 1: So yeah, well, some of the some of the couples
Speaker 1: from this new season that just dropped are doing like
Speaker 1: amas on Reddit and things like that. And one of
Speaker 1: them I started following on TikTok because I was just
Speaker 1: curious and they like instantly followed me back. Oh boy,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, but I'm wondering if in those amas,
Speaker 1: surely someone has asked this question like do you have
Speaker 1: to pay for the therapy? Is are you doing this
Speaker 1: for free therapy? They're I'm which I think would.
Speaker 2: Be worth it. I mean it's expensive, yeah.
Speaker 1: It's super therapy is super expensive. And also, like these
Speaker 1: people are really brave. You're doing something it's really personal
Speaker 1: right on on TV for people to watch and judge.
Speaker 1: I mean again, some of them, I'm like, you're not
Speaker 1: a nice person, and I am judging you. But the
Speaker 1: people who who aren't being bad people like that's really
Speaker 1: it's really brave. I wouldn't.
Speaker 2: Yeah anyway, also your friends and neighbors. They they completed that.
Speaker 2: I'm not quite sure I understand who did it and
Speaker 2: why there's a big murder mystery. I probably will come
Speaker 2: back and watch it when they come back again, because
Speaker 2: they they've they've greenlighted a second series. Okay, a second season.
Speaker 2: So if you like John Hamm, it's a it's a
Speaker 2: fun show. It's just like it doesn't make a lot
Speaker 2: of sense. And then speaking of that, and just like
Speaker 2: that came back.
Speaker 1: I haven't been watching.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you've avoided it. You were, you were smart. It's
Speaker 2: it's as stupid as they are last season, and the
Speaker 2: choices that they make, they've just completely it's even worse
Speaker 2: now and it's oh bully, but it's still watchable. That's
Speaker 2: what's crazy about it.
Speaker 1: I get it. I get it, like, especially if you
Speaker 1: watched every season before, like my sister has watched the
Speaker 1: Old Sex and the City episodes like five hundred times,
Speaker 1: She's watched them over and over and over. Those characters
Speaker 1: are like her friends, and she feels very like protective
Speaker 1: of them. I could see why you would go on
Speaker 1: and continue to watch the new season, the new seasons,
Speaker 1: I should say, I just can't bring myself to do
Speaker 1: it because just the clips annoy me.
Speaker 2: It's so annoying, and it's uh yeah, and Carrie is
Speaker 2: just such a terrible friend and no one ever calls
Speaker 2: her out. There's a guy named Anthony which I'm trying
Speaker 2: for the actor's name, that plays a music comedian but uh.
Speaker 1: And oh and damn it Mario something Mario.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and he calls out. Carrie and Aiden
Speaker 2: are back together. But Aiden has a problem with his
Speaker 2: teenage son, who's like fourteen fifteen, and Aiden lives in
Speaker 2: Virginia and he split up with a second wife or something.
Speaker 2: So he so he says to Carrie, let's take five
Speaker 2: years and then we'll start dating. My son will be
Speaker 2: out of high school. Right, I'm not kidding you, I know,
Speaker 2: and like, and let's not call he says, We're not
Speaker 2: going to email, We're not going to call each other.
Speaker 2: They start the show this season with they send each
Speaker 2: other blank postcards.
Speaker 1: Its stupid.
Speaker 2: It's so fucking stupid, and it's so psychotic, and his
Speaker 2: character is like saying to Carrie, like, what the hell
Speaker 2: are you actually doing? And she completely shuts down and
Speaker 2: then ICs him out, and then basically he has to
Speaker 2: grovel to her and apologize because she was offended. It's
Speaker 2: like she shits on everybody else's relationships, everyone else's choices.
Speaker 2: You know, she was awful. I guess big turned out
Speaker 2: to be a good thing for her because she's super
Speaker 2: fucking rich. I mean, I can't she doesn't have to
Speaker 2: worry about money.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but none of them do, by the way, none
Speaker 1: of them.
Speaker 2: Well I think Miranda does. I think she and see
Speaker 2: but Carrie owns this huge house in Gramercy Park, but
Speaker 2: Miranda's living at an airbnb, Like why don't they just
Speaker 2: I don't know what was I gonna say? Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: So it just it's like that level of stupid. And
Speaker 2: then there's a sex scene where they're having phone sex
Speaker 2: and it's the most painful, awful, awkward thing that I
Speaker 2: wish I could unsee.
Speaker 1: Yes, Carrie's always been toxic, Like she's just a toxic,
Speaker 1: shitty person. She doesn't hold up that's when you go
Speaker 1: back and watch the old episodes, You're like, you're annoying.
Speaker 2: You're very annoying, You're very full of yourself and you
Speaker 2: shouldn't be and you're and you're making really wild choices
Speaker 2: and your friends should be questioning you about it. And
Speaker 2: she gets very defensive and shitty, and it's they don't
Speaker 2: give Charlotte anything to do. Miranda's a lesbian now, and
Speaker 2: so there's a whole thing where Rosy o'donald was on
Speaker 2: the show. Rose o' donald played a nun that was
Speaker 2: a virgin that picked up I mean, it's I'm not
Speaker 2: kidding you, it's like Miranda. It's like, h for God's sakes.
Speaker 1: Never mind, I'll just wait till the Gilded Age comes back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. The Gilded Age is what I'm looking
Speaker 2: forward to. So anyway, yeah, it's just as crazy, and
Speaker 2: the fashions are just as like it's it's just it's
Speaker 2: she wears this big hat i' and people are like,
Speaker 2: she looks like Strawberry Shortcake.
Speaker 1: I've seen it, and it's.
Speaker 2: Just and it she's wearing in the middle of summer.
Speaker 2: It's so stupid, and it's so stupid it's so so stupid.
Speaker 1: Okay, they're not like us.
Speaker 2: No, they're not like us. They're not like us.
Speaker 1: By the way, Kendrick Lamar was performing here last night
Speaker 1: or the night before at the ballpark, and all the
Speaker 1: people who live in the apartments were like recording videos
Speaker 1: and you could hear everybody yelling must a minor's so good,
Speaker 1: so good?
Speaker 2: Siza to come out? And yeah, I know, I.
Speaker 1: Thought it was a dope show. I bet it was.
Speaker 1: Did you watch Blow Deck down Under?
Speaker 2: Yes? So what do you think of Laura?
Speaker 1: I texted you and I was like, what a gun
Speaker 1: she is? First, I'm like, what the fuck is your problem?
Speaker 1: She her? She apologizes to Serena and they like, and
Speaker 1: Serena apologize to her and they make up. But for
Speaker 1: some reason that's not good enough for her, and then
Speaker 1: she's instantly annoyed that the guests have asked for like
Speaker 1: a seven course meal. Then she tries to get Serena
Speaker 1: to talk them out of the seven course meal that
Speaker 1: they asked for because it would require her to wash
Speaker 1: dishes in between writing dishes, and it's not Serena's job
Speaker 1: to talk people out of the shit they asked for.
Speaker 2: It's one thing if she can't source a thing because
Speaker 2: and things that I wish they'd told us, because she's
Speaker 2: done some interviews. Serena's done some interviews, like they get
Speaker 2: their their supplies from France. It has to be flown
Speaker 2: in Oh, Okay, so and sometimes it wouldn't come into
Speaker 2: like ten eleven o'clock at night, so sometimes she would
Speaker 2: have to change her menu. But like they had said,
Speaker 2: they wanted a seven course meal, which is not crazy
Speaker 2: for below deck. I've seen her end course meals. I've
Speaker 2: seen way more. So why she freaked out. She's like, oh,
Speaker 2: we don't have enough cutlery, we don't have enough fift
Speaker 2: and it was just like don't a place from No, Like,
Speaker 2: how do we make it work? Just like we talked
Speaker 2: about with Apollo thirteen. If you can do that, you
Speaker 2: can figure out you can wash them dishes, you could
Speaker 2: put your You know that deck crew will happily wash
Speaker 2: dishes if you tell them to. I mean, that's what
Speaker 2: they're there for. But she doesn't, and so then she
Speaker 2: sends Erena to go to the guests and then she's
Speaker 2: saying to them, Hey, this is what I'm thinking for
Speaker 2: your seven course meal. And these people spent the previous
Speaker 2: day seasick for most of it.
Speaker 1: It looks so terrible.
Speaker 2: I feel they couldn't keep the food down that she
Speaker 2: served them the day before. This day, they spent half
Speaker 2: the day on an island, so they don't have as much.
Speaker 2: You know, they're feeling a little better, and they're actually
Speaker 2: in the mood for like a really good dinner and so.
Speaker 2: But I've never had a chief stew like say to
Speaker 2: the chef, like, you need to talk to them and
Speaker 2: talk them out of doing this, because it's her just
Speaker 2: wanting to not be bothered with us. It's too much.
Speaker 2: It's just too much for her because she's a perfectionist.
Speaker 2: If she can't do it perfectly, that just to do
Speaker 2: it at all. And it's a mindset I just don't have,
Speaker 2: and I don't so I don't have a lot of
Speaker 2: empathy for it. So it's just hard for me. But
Speaker 2: she's so obnoxious about and the when Serena comes back,
Speaker 2: just this woman is unhinged. I'm like, she's not unhinged,
Speaker 2: she's just doing her job.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're the one being unhinged. It's not Serena's job
Speaker 1: to make your job easier. It's her job to give
Speaker 1: these customers a really good time and what they asked for,
Speaker 1: and that's what she's doing. She blames Serena for the
Speaker 1: fact that they want a seven course meal and then
Speaker 1: she's a bitch about it the rest of the time.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you're acting like an asshole. She's acting like
Speaker 1: an asshole, and then to be like I need to
Speaker 1: be she needs to basically like unapologize to Serena so
Speaker 1: that she knows that they're not going to be friends
Speaker 1: anymore after this. And I'm like, it needs such a
Speaker 1: fucking bitch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think she's got the crew, like Marina
Speaker 2: and Brie have her back, and I think Harry has
Speaker 2: Laura's back, like because he and Zorena had a falling out. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Zarena's got her problems for sure, for sure, and she's
Speaker 2: got some growing up to do, but she you cannot
Speaker 2: take away her skills as a chef. Like, no one
Speaker 2: ever sent a meal back. They never had one meal
Speaker 2: that didn't work that she put out there. And that's
Speaker 2: where like the tips really come in is from the
Speaker 2: chef's food and she always knocked it out. So that
Speaker 2: department was like stellar.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they got a big fat tip from those people.
Speaker 1: It was like twenty two thousand dollars or something. That's insane.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a really big tip, and so they
Speaker 2: should have you know, but I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 2: hopefully Lara doesn't appear in any other shows, but yeah,
Speaker 2: it was it was not a good look for her,
Speaker 2: and it was and it was very hard to like
Speaker 2: find her, like I mean, I was just I don't.
Speaker 1: Know, and that's very frustrating, Like that's how you want
Speaker 1: to end the season, Like yeah, that like you want
Speaker 1: to end it on a sad trombone. It's like it
Speaker 1: was just such a bitch move. But they go out
Speaker 1: to celebrate after and they're all dancing in the rain
Speaker 1: and like, uh, Alisha and Zorena like kiss and everyone's all,
Speaker 1: what the fuck is happening? And like Alisha clearly drink
Speaker 1: a lot of tequila and was just having a good
Speaker 1: time and she was torking on people and acting a fool,
Speaker 1: but her and Serena seem fine with it. I was like,
Speaker 1: good for them, They're having a good time.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Serena likes attention. She wants some kisses, she wants
Speaker 1: some smoochies given to her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're they're they're fine, they're all just having fun.
Speaker 2: But they did. It's a lot of work that they do,
Speaker 2: and it's very stressful, and when people don't like the food,
Speaker 2: that's really hey.
Speaker 1: Yeah that sucks. And yeah, I was happy to see
Speaker 1: them like in the kitchen having a good time where
Speaker 1: they're wearing the giant chef hats and you know, for
Speaker 1: them to go out and like cut loose afterwards. And
Speaker 1: I really like Nick and Marina. I think they're super cute,
Speaker 1: so cute together. And what was the other the boats
Speaker 1: that Nathan Nathan, Yeah, he seemed lovely.
Speaker 2: Like he's so sweet and especially for a Bosin because
Speaker 2: usually they're dickheads. I mean, they just tend to be
Speaker 2: sexist pricks and he's completely the opposite of that. And yeah,
Speaker 2: it was a good crew. I mean it was. It's
Speaker 2: weird how Laura really twisted it to be like this
Speaker 2: miserable experience when it was like for below Deck it
Speaker 2: was really good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, think about.
Speaker 2: Some seasons are really fucking rough.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm thinking was it the season last season or
Speaker 1: the season before that where that one guy basically got
Speaker 1: kicked off the boat for sexual assault, like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I attempted.
Speaker 1: Like it was really fucked up and like the one
Speaker 1: of the stews was really shitty and like that was
Speaker 1: a rough season. And then this season, I mean, other
Speaker 1: than Weehun acting like a dick and Laura's bullshit at
Speaker 1: the end, good season. Yeah yeah, did you watch Love Hotel?
Speaker 1: Of course, of course I have feelings about this. Okay,
Speaker 1: So Ashley is clearly like she's kind of hot for
Speaker 1: this like silver Fox and not this other man who's
Speaker 1: maybe more age appropriate named Wally, and.
Speaker 2: They're not.
Speaker 1: She decides not to give him a key and instead
Speaker 1: gives it to her Silver Fox, and then Shannon's like, well,
Speaker 1: we need to give a key to Wally, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: but why she has not chosen him? And they keep
Speaker 1: bringing back people that they haven't chosen, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: you're annoying me.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: It's no offense to Wally. I'm sure he's lovely, but
Speaker 1: she continues to not pick him. I'm like, so maybe
Speaker 1: we let him move on and bring in some people
Speaker 1: that I don't know have potential or something. And that's
Speaker 1: the same with Earl the Pearl. I'm right, I don't
Speaker 1: think she feels romantically towards him Shannon, so, but she
Speaker 1: keeps bringing him back because she's comfortable. And then they
Speaker 1: bring back this guy Mark the and for lu Anne,
Speaker 1: but leu Anne is already kind of with someone else,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, why are you bringing these men back
Speaker 1: that don't have any connections? I want to see new
Speaker 1: guys basically, Yeah, but it's still super fun.
Speaker 2: It's really fun.
Speaker 1: And like again, leu Anne is there to like, would
Speaker 1: you say last week she's d was it?
Speaker 2: Uh, she's dts DTF.
Speaker 1: She's down to fuck like she is. She's covering up
Speaker 1: the camera at the end, and I was like, good
Speaker 1: for you, get it girl. But it's it is really
Speaker 1: really fun because those housewives know how to do it.
Speaker 1: I just wish they wouldn't keep bringing back men who've
Speaker 1: been rejected, because yeah, it's not fun to watch them
Speaker 1: get rejected over and over again. It's it's annoying, that's all.
Speaker 1: Did you watch Fear Street prom Queen No with that.
Speaker 1: It's a new horror movie that came out. There's a
Speaker 1: whole fear Street series. There's one that's like set in
Speaker 1: the eighteen hundreds. There's one that's like in the it's
Speaker 1: like nineteen seventy six, and there's one called nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 1: And now there's one called fear Street Prom Queen and
Speaker 1: it's set in the eighties and it's they're actually eighty eight.
Speaker 1: It's it's a senior prom. They're graduating in eighty eight.
Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm old that is also when
Speaker 1: I graduated. I'm going to watch this. I think the
Speaker 1: movie is written by a I like, none of the
Speaker 1: characters are interesting, nobody stands out. Even the kills are
Speaker 1: like you bor rude. And then it gets so much
Speaker 1: wrong about the eighties that I was distracted, like I know,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I know, I shouldn't be taking it
Speaker 1: that seriously. But nobody in the eighties was like eat
Speaker 1: a dick. Nobody told anyone to eat a dick. In
Speaker 1: the eighties. That was not We'd say gag me with
Speaker 1: a spoon, you know.
Speaker 2: Or gag me with a dick.
Speaker 1: Just well that was more of an order. But like,
Speaker 1: nobody said eat a dick. There's a shit like that.
Speaker 1: Or two female characters have like a dance off, and
Speaker 1: I was like that would have never happened. Like we
Speaker 1: had like break dancers who had dance offs, but two
Speaker 1: white girls know that would have never happened. Like the
Speaker 1: song choices were really weird. It's like they just I
Speaker 1: was so disappointed. I was so oh disappointed. I was
Speaker 1: really excited because I was like, this is I love
Speaker 1: like eighties horror movies. I think they're super fun, and
Speaker 1: this was not it. So everyone, you can skip it.
Speaker 1: And I also watched the Thailand All Murders.
Speaker 2: Yeah I haven't seen that yet. Did they do a
Speaker 2: good job?
Speaker 1: They did. They did a really good job. Actually, we
Speaker 1: covered the Thailand All Murders on our other podcast, What
Speaker 1: a creep I think For me, I was like, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I know these things, but it was nice to put
Speaker 1: some faces to names. But they do a deeper dive
Speaker 1: on the Johnson and Johnson involvement that.
Speaker 2: I didn't.
Speaker 1: I don't think I had in our episode. So if
Speaker 1: you've already listened to that episode, there are new things
Speaker 1: to learn in the Thailand All Murders. I think I
Speaker 1: thought it was really well done. I like these Netflix
Speaker 1: Crime Dot You memories. I think they're very entertaining and
Speaker 1: they're usually edited really well, and each episode is like
Speaker 1: forty minutes, so I think it's worth watching.
Speaker 2: I did see Sirens on Netflix. Did you see that?
Speaker 1: I watched the first episode and quickly thought.
Speaker 2: This one may not be for me. Yeah, I stuck
Speaker 2: with it. I'm not sure why, but I did. I mean,
Speaker 2: I like the people that are in Yeah.
Speaker 1: I like it's got Kevin Bacon.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's got Kevin Bacon once again. And it's like
Speaker 2: it's in the Hamptons and it's rich people and they're
Speaker 2: weirdos and that's stuff, like I think, like it's been
Speaker 2: said before. It's just there's nothing new here. I'm surprised
Speaker 2: that Nicole Kidman isn't anywhere to be found, Like I'm
Speaker 2: shocked to not see her anywhere, like not even on
Speaker 2: a poster or something like. It's kind of trucking because
Speaker 2: it's the kind of show she definitely would do.
Speaker 1: The role of Nicole Kidman is played by it.
Speaker 2: More exactly who did Who's great? Yes, But anyway, but yeah,
Speaker 2: I managed to get through it, and then the rehearsal.
Speaker 2: I managed to get through, even though I'm not always
Speaker 2: on top of his humor.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I am going to watch it more. A few
Speaker 1: people have recommended it to me. Yeah, it's on my list.
Speaker 2: I couldn't.
Speaker 1: Sirens like turned me off at the end of the
Speaker 1: first episode with like a hawk that flies through a window,
Speaker 1: and I was like, what is what is the show?
Speaker 1: The tone seemed to be like all over the place,
Speaker 1: and I was super confused. Does it get better?
Speaker 2: No, it doesn't get any better? Okay no, And it's
Speaker 2: not even about what you think it's going to be about.
Speaker 2: Because Sirens, I was like, oh, Mermaids, it's got some
Speaker 2: or some mythology that'll be here now.
Speaker 1: Okay, So that's a really good cast.
Speaker 2: Though, it's a great cast, but it's like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: the young pretty one kicks out the middle aged one, okay,
Speaker 2: because that's yeah.
Speaker 1: And that's the I'm always that the twist because that's
Speaker 1: not very twisty.
Speaker 2: It's not a twist, but it is what happens.
Speaker 1: So all right, well then I'll just go ahead, fine,
Speaker 1: keep it off my watch list.
Speaker 2: I like everybody in it, but it wasn't doing things
Speaker 2: that I was just sort of like, what is this for?
Speaker 2: And who's this sport? Why do they call it Sirens?
Speaker 2: Where are my Mermaids? What's going on? And it didn't happen. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it wasn't happening, I'm unpleasant.
Speaker 1: Yeah, then that's I'm going to skip that one. There's
Speaker 1: a new one on uh Amazon Prime with Elizabeth Banks
Speaker 1: and Jessica Till I can't remember the name of it,
Speaker 1: Oh the Better Sister, And I heard that that's a
Speaker 1: better version of Sirens, and I'm like, Okay, maybe I'll
Speaker 1: watch that one because I like those people, so I'll
Speaker 1: report back to you. Okay, it's on my watch list,
Speaker 1: but I I hate watching things on Amazon. But I
Speaker 1: already paid for it, So anything else on your list, no,
Speaker 1: that's it. Okay, if you like the sound of our voices.
Speaker 1: I already mentioned this. We co host another podcast called
Speaker 1: What a Creep. It comes out every Friday, and our
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