WEBVTT 1 00:00:20.440 --> 00:00:25.359 Welcome to Throwback Thursday. 2 00:00:26.039 --> 00:00:30.000 So these are some of the oldies but goodies. 3 00:00:29.640 --> 00:00:34.759 The classics, and they are some of the episodes that 4 00:00:34.840 --> 00:00:38.600 are probably in the back of the catalog that you 5 00:00:38.719 --> 00:00:44.560 haven't managed to listen to yet. So just a warning, 6 00:00:44.679 --> 00:00:47.840 some of my thoughts, feelings, opinions may have changed since 7 00:00:47.880 --> 00:00:53.200 the recordings of these episodes. Doesn't make them any less interesting. 8 00:00:53.920 --> 00:00:58.119 So as an evolving human being, I may say something 9 00:00:58.159 --> 00:00:59.399 in these episodes that I. 10 00:00:59.359 --> 00:01:03.399 Don't necessary fairly agree with today, but these. 11 00:01:03.240 --> 00:01:06.760 Episodes are the classics, and I just thought I would 12 00:01:07.000 --> 00:01:11.239 do a little something fun for us. So welcome and 13 00:01:11.480 --> 00:01:18.359 enjoy throw Back Thursday. 14 00:01:20.400 --> 00:01:33.400 So where she came from yesterday don't matter. If it's gone. 15 00:01:36.400 --> 00:01:39.079 While the sun is bright. 16 00:01:40.840 --> 00:02:29.439 In the doarcas night, no one knows. She comes and goes. 17 00:02:13.639 --> 00:02:14.159 Are we live? 18 00:02:14.319 --> 00:02:14.520 Yeah? 19 00:02:15.080 --> 00:02:18.199 Yeah, yeah, I got, I got no, Oh, there we go? 20 00:02:18.319 --> 00:02:19.800 Stream is live. It just hit on my end. It 21 00:02:19.800 --> 00:02:22.840 was about thirteen second delay. How do you folks? Uh? 22 00:02:23.039 --> 00:02:25.960 Your host double j not the vice president host of 23 00:02:26.000 --> 00:02:30.560 Operation GCD, with an Operation GCD Invasion of the Occult Rejects. 24 00:02:30.560 --> 00:02:35.599 Here with a fellow occult reject, Julia from the Cosmic 25 00:02:35.599 --> 00:02:37.960 Peach podcast. And of course Neck, the host of the 26 00:02:37.960 --> 00:02:42.919 Occult rejects, it's going on. I can't hear you. No, 27 00:02:43.000 --> 00:02:44.000 there you go going on. 28 00:02:44.039 --> 00:02:48.960 Thank you very much, thanks for having me. 29 00:02:49.080 --> 00:02:49.439 Guys. 30 00:02:50.919 --> 00:02:53.360 Well, this, this conversation kind of grew up a conversation 31 00:02:53.360 --> 00:02:54.960 we had last week right on the Occult reject. I 32 00:02:54.960 --> 00:02:56.520 don't think it's quite dropped yet. 33 00:02:56.719 --> 00:02:59.919 No, yeah, yeah, it's like a preview. Actually, I think 34 00:03:00.080 --> 00:03:02.120 will drop next Wednesday or something like that. 35 00:03:02.840 --> 00:03:04.479 I was gonna, you know, let's say, let's go, let's 36 00:03:04.479 --> 00:03:06.120 go ahead and tease that episode, because that's gonna be 37 00:03:06.159 --> 00:03:08.159 a good conversation for folks to check out as well. 38 00:03:08.879 --> 00:03:11.080 And if folks of the interwebs are not familiar with Tuesday, 39 00:03:11.080 --> 00:03:13.240 well this this name came up in the conversation last 40 00:03:13.240 --> 00:03:18.199 week about a cult Elvis Tuesday. Well when when Julia 41 00:03:18.280 --> 00:03:20.479 brought it up in the conversation and asked me if 42 00:03:20.560 --> 00:03:22.840 I new Tuesday, well, and I simply replied, one of 43 00:03:22.879 --> 00:03:25.719 my favorite people in the entire universe because I love 44 00:03:25.919 --> 00:03:29.280 because I'm pro Tuesday. It was because she's connected to everything. 45 00:03:29.719 --> 00:03:33.039 I love how youesday, not because I'm pro Tuesday. 46 00:03:33.479 --> 00:03:37.000 No, I'm definitely not pro Tuesday. Yeah, no me either, 47 00:03:37.120 --> 00:03:37.560 me either. 48 00:03:37.639 --> 00:03:44.080 But she's somebody that I've actually I've mentioned several times 49 00:03:44.080 --> 00:03:47.560 in previous episodes. I actually the first time I talked 50 00:03:47.560 --> 00:03:50.240 about her on my show was in twenty twenty two. 51 00:03:50.879 --> 00:03:55.319 So is definitely I'm you know, due for a refresher 52 00:03:55.479 --> 00:03:59.039 just for even people who listen to my show, because 53 00:03:59.319 --> 00:04:02.159 you know, I I just assume that everyone everyone knows 54 00:04:02.199 --> 00:04:04.639 about her because I did do an episode on her 55 00:04:04.719 --> 00:04:07.560 a couple of years ago, but it's been so long, 56 00:04:07.680 --> 00:04:12.319 you know, you'd have to dig through, you know, hundreds 57 00:04:12.319 --> 00:04:14.240 of episodes to get to that one. So I'm kind 58 00:04:14.280 --> 00:04:18.560 of excited to revitalize it today and make it more 59 00:04:20.519 --> 00:04:23.079 well known for for people who haven't heard of her. 60 00:04:23.360 --> 00:04:27.279 So we're throwing down on Tuesday on a Monday, So 61 00:04:27.480 --> 00:04:28.439 this is gonna be. 62 00:04:28.720 --> 00:04:32.839 This is gonna be yeah, Right, And Nick, you had 63 00:04:32.879 --> 00:04:34.959 no idea Tuesday World was when this came up during 64 00:04:35.000 --> 00:04:37.519 that show, right, I mean, you know, I think Tuesday's 65 00:04:37.519 --> 00:04:40.360 done a great job of playing you know, Landeth. 66 00:04:39.920 --> 00:04:45.319 Lamelow under the radar for the public. 67 00:04:45.439 --> 00:04:45.600 Right. 68 00:04:46.439 --> 00:04:48.800 It was the only time I had ever really heard 69 00:04:48.839 --> 00:04:51.839 about her. Is that I think, like one time Lisa 70 00:04:51.920 --> 00:04:53.959 for some reason, and she can't remember why she was 71 00:04:53.959 --> 00:04:56.800 looking into somehow she was she was related to Joe Rogan, 72 00:04:57.439 --> 00:04:59.160 she had somewhere. 73 00:05:00.120 --> 00:05:02.319 Yeah, like weird, like you know, who knows if it's true, 74 00:05:02.560 --> 00:05:04.000 but like that was the only time I really ever 75 00:05:04.079 --> 00:05:05.720 heard of Tuesday. Well that had no idea who she 76 00:05:05.800 --> 00:05:06.480 really is. Though. 77 00:05:07.199 --> 00:05:10.800 If that's true, I'm gonna ship my whole entire pants. 78 00:05:11.000 --> 00:05:13.600 Well, I can't believe I haven't done Joe Rogan's family 79 00:05:13.639 --> 00:05:16.000 three yet. It's shocking to me. As much Joe Rogan 80 00:05:16.079 --> 00:05:16.680 stuff as. 81 00:05:16.519 --> 00:05:22.560 I've done, it wouldn't surprise me. But you know, somebody 82 00:05:22.560 --> 00:05:24.680 that I've worked with a few times, I think nick 83 00:05:24.759 --> 00:05:27.839 has two is uh Sean McCann. 84 00:05:28.040 --> 00:05:30.759 Yes, And he knew so. 85 00:05:30.920 --> 00:05:34.480 Much about Tuesday, and he and I talked about her together, 86 00:05:34.680 --> 00:05:36.199 and so I just wanted to give him a quick 87 00:05:36.240 --> 00:05:40.199 shout out because he drops some stuff into my life 88 00:05:40.319 --> 00:05:42.319 about her that I didn't even know about that I 89 00:05:42.360 --> 00:05:44.920 included in this presentation. So before I get started, I 90 00:05:44.920 --> 00:05:46.600 just want to say shout out to him too, because 91 00:05:46.600 --> 00:05:50.319 he's looked into her and found some really crazy stuff. 92 00:05:50.360 --> 00:05:52.439 But if you've ever seen a. 93 00:05:52.360 --> 00:05:56.720 Picture of her, but well, man inject real quick. Yeah, 94 00:05:56.800 --> 00:05:58.759 before we describe who is Tuesday Well and how did 95 00:05:58.759 --> 00:06:01.480 you just like you're saying, Sean McCann's done podcasts on 96 00:06:01.519 --> 00:06:03.839 this too. Now, I haven't heard anyone talk about Tuesday 97 00:06:03.920 --> 00:06:07.959 Well since Adam go Rightley sirka two thousand and seven something. 98 00:06:08.120 --> 00:06:12.120 Yeah, so Sean mccannon. 99 00:06:13.720 --> 00:06:14.800 Her right. 100 00:06:14.959 --> 00:06:17.720 I'm not sure when it dropped into his, you know, 101 00:06:18.240 --> 00:06:21.079 periphery for him to start looking into it. But I 102 00:06:21.199 --> 00:06:25.240 found her looking into Laurel Canyon because she is a 103 00:06:25.240 --> 00:06:31.120 big sixties counterculture person. And then I had mentioned her 104 00:06:31.160 --> 00:06:34.600 in passing to Sean and he was like, oh shit, 105 00:06:34.839 --> 00:06:36.480 you know, I know so much about her, and then 106 00:06:36.480 --> 00:06:39.160 we did an episode on her together. But I'm not 107 00:06:39.199 --> 00:06:41.240 sure if you've ever seen a picture of her, nick, 108 00:06:41.399 --> 00:06:50.040 but she is like the proverbial Madonna, Marilyn Monroe, Jane Mansfield, 109 00:06:50.680 --> 00:06:54.480 big blue eyes, blonde hair, she looks like a Barbie 110 00:06:54.480 --> 00:06:56.000 Doll essentially. 111 00:06:58.480 --> 00:07:01.160 Things right, she could have been bigger than all those stars, right. 112 00:07:01.480 --> 00:07:05.759 Yes, yes, it seems like she fits that archetype. Yeah. 113 00:07:05.759 --> 00:07:09.439 There she goes with Jack Nicholson. You'll see her hanging around. 114 00:07:09.480 --> 00:07:13.240 It's like she's everywhere and nowhere at the same time. 115 00:07:13.519 --> 00:07:18.519 You know, she's everywhere for those who know where she is, 116 00:07:19.600 --> 00:07:24.000 but nowhere to people that are familiar with sixties counterculture. 117 00:07:24.040 --> 00:07:26.480 When you look back on it, you're like, oh, like 118 00:07:26.519 --> 00:07:31.439 I said, Jane Mansfield, Marilyn Monroe, whoever, whoever was big 119 00:07:31.560 --> 00:07:34.360 during that time. She's sitting right here next to Jack Nicholson. 120 00:07:34.439 --> 00:07:37.319 It's like, who is this person? If you saw this picture, 121 00:07:37.360 --> 00:07:40.360 you wouldn't even know who she was, But she's everywhere. 122 00:07:40.600 --> 00:07:42.160 Fangirl right right? 123 00:07:42.480 --> 00:07:42.680 Right? 124 00:07:42.920 --> 00:07:45.720 Yeah, So I forgot this. 125 00:07:45.680 --> 00:07:47.199 Is when they get a movie together. I think this 126 00:07:47.319 --> 00:07:50.480 was nineteen seventy two that did a film together, If 127 00:07:50.480 --> 00:07:52.759 I'm not mistaken. I don't remember which one it was. 128 00:07:52.920 --> 00:07:54.800 I remember which one it was. I think I have 129 00:07:54.879 --> 00:07:56.199 it in my notes for later. 130 00:07:56.319 --> 00:07:59.639 But it's been in Hollywood since she was a little girl, right, 131 00:07:59.680 --> 00:08:01.759 she was about what's seven years old? I believe which 132 00:08:01.759 --> 00:08:02.279 she started there? 133 00:08:02.399 --> 00:08:07.360 Yeah, yeah, she was really really young. And I guess 134 00:08:07.600 --> 00:08:11.079 in order to understand why she's significant in what role 135 00:08:11.160 --> 00:08:17.279 she plays in this weird society of famous people, you 136 00:08:17.399 --> 00:08:20.959 kind of almost have to go back in time and 137 00:08:21.000 --> 00:08:25.399 look at her family, right, who are the Weld's, What 138 00:08:25.519 --> 00:08:27.759 where did she come from? Why is she special? 139 00:08:28.720 --> 00:08:28.959 You know? 140 00:08:29.160 --> 00:08:35.679 XYZ. And it turns out actually that the Weld family 141 00:08:36.000 --> 00:08:40.840 is really really old family. They came over on the 142 00:08:40.879 --> 00:08:46.200 Mayflower type shit, you know, one of the very first families. 143 00:08:46.759 --> 00:08:51.480 They came to America in the sixteen hundreds from England, 144 00:08:52.279 --> 00:08:56.639 and the Weld family is actually an extended family of 145 00:08:56.679 --> 00:09:02.480 the Boston Brahmin family. The name Brahmin might sound familiar 146 00:09:02.960 --> 00:09:06.559 to people who are listening to this. Brahman is kind 147 00:09:06.600 --> 00:09:09.440 of like one of those really old families that kind 148 00:09:09.480 --> 00:09:13.960 of run everything. They're like the Boston elite, if you will, 149 00:09:14.000 --> 00:09:17.080 the Brahmin family. So the Welds are an extension of 150 00:09:17.120 --> 00:09:21.039 the Boston Brahmins, and the Welds are actually the ones 151 00:09:21.039 --> 00:09:28.279 who helped start Harvard University as a gift, they were 152 00:09:28.440 --> 00:09:35.279 given by the royal family. The Weld family was given Roxbury, Massachusetts, 153 00:09:35.919 --> 00:09:42.759 and like Jamaica Plane, it's all weld Land. And yeah, 154 00:09:42.799 --> 00:09:46.559 basically so you got this weird Boston kind of with 155 00:09:46.679 --> 00:09:51.320 the Brahmins, but also like most of Massachusetts has turned 156 00:09:51.440 --> 00:09:52.879 to like weld land. 157 00:09:53.639 --> 00:09:55.960 Sure, and they started that all on a mound there 158 00:09:56.000 --> 00:09:58.399 in Jamaica Plane called Nice Hill. 159 00:09:59.080 --> 00:10:03.000 Yeah, freaking mound builder. Weirdness right. 160 00:10:05.960 --> 00:10:07.279 To the Society of Cincinnati. 161 00:10:10.159 --> 00:10:13.759 Well, she's related to the governor of Massachusetts, which was 162 00:10:13.840 --> 00:10:19.120 William Weld. And if you go all the way back 163 00:10:19.159 --> 00:10:22.399 in time, right the thirteen hundreds is the earliest recorded 164 00:10:22.440 --> 00:10:26.120 members of the Weld family. They're all like sheriffs in London. 165 00:10:27.840 --> 00:10:32.200 Some of them are knights, uh shit like that. 166 00:10:32.799 --> 00:10:36.039 And then they started from some old school Celtic stuff though, right, 167 00:10:36.120 --> 00:10:38.559 like the ancient king Satara, right, yeah, yeah, yeah. 168 00:10:38.440 --> 00:10:43.159 Yeah yeah. So I think they were I don't know 169 00:10:43.159 --> 00:10:45.000 if it was in the thirteen hundreds or when they 170 00:10:45.039 --> 00:10:48.759 came over on the Mayflower, but they were Protestant. But 171 00:10:48.919 --> 00:10:51.360 after they got over here they sort of kind of 172 00:10:51.559 --> 00:10:55.879 like integrated their power into religiosity and a lot of 173 00:10:55.919 --> 00:11:04.039 them converted to Catholis and became like Jesuit priests. So 174 00:11:04.559 --> 00:11:08.960 there's so many layers to this. And actually John B. 175 00:11:09.159 --> 00:11:14.360 Weld and Alfred Weld, to be specific, they were Jesuit priests, 176 00:11:14.360 --> 00:11:18.639 and Alfred was known to be a Jesuit priest, an astronomer, 177 00:11:18.799 --> 00:11:25.240 and the administrator for the Society of Jesus. So it's 178 00:11:25.320 --> 00:11:27.399 like I said, it's like if you go even all 179 00:11:27.399 --> 00:11:27.799 the way. 180 00:11:27.679 --> 00:11:30.559 Back there, he was an administrator there that wasn't even 181 00:11:30.639 --> 00:11:33.480 just a member. He's like, I'm not just a member, 182 00:11:33.519 --> 00:11:35.159 I'm the president. Right. 183 00:11:35.399 --> 00:11:42.720 Yeah, it's like sheriffs, knights, Jesuit priests, administrators for the 184 00:11:42.879 --> 00:11:48.600 Society of Jesus. You got astronomers, Boston elite, the Brahmin family. 185 00:11:48.679 --> 00:11:53.159 I mean, the Welds are nuts, you got governors. They 186 00:11:53.279 --> 00:11:55.159 own most of Massachusetts. 187 00:11:55.720 --> 00:11:58.840 Yeah, they were the infamous incident between Bill Weld and 188 00:11:58.879 --> 00:12:03.320 Whitey Bulger's brother the government. As you pointed out, so, uh, 189 00:12:03.519 --> 00:12:06.559 that is a cousin of hers. He also descends from 190 00:12:06.559 --> 00:12:10.000 Elisa Weld, So Eliza Weld was a colonel in the Revolution. 191 00:12:10.679 --> 00:12:13.919 They're on the the Weld Mound there in Jamaica Plains. 192 00:12:14.039 --> 00:12:16.399 In fact that the weld manor there on Weld Hill 193 00:12:16.960 --> 00:12:20.919 served as an operations headquarters for the Massachusetts contingent of 194 00:12:20.919 --> 00:12:24.759 the Revolution. So they're very very integral, very integral. That 195 00:12:24.799 --> 00:12:27.879 was basically you know headquarters, you know, operations center right 196 00:12:28.000 --> 00:12:28.200 for the. 197 00:12:30.000 --> 00:12:31.840 Founding fathers and stuff. 198 00:12:31.960 --> 00:12:37.159 Like they're damn near like yeah, close to the level down. Wow, 199 00:12:38.080 --> 00:12:40.440 because as far as mass Us is concerned, I mean 200 00:12:40.480 --> 00:12:43.440 they're they were major Again, as you pointed out that 201 00:12:43.480 --> 00:12:45.639 they were the religious heads with the Start and Harvard 202 00:12:45.639 --> 00:12:48.600 because that started as a religious school. And then they 203 00:12:48.600 --> 00:12:51.360 were the military heads because they weren't generals. But you know, 204 00:12:51.600 --> 00:12:54.279 they're the ones that ran Their house was run, you know, 205 00:12:54.320 --> 00:12:56.279 they run everything out of their house, you know, and 206 00:12:56.279 --> 00:12:59.000 whatever that mound was they operated. The rest of their 207 00:12:59.039 --> 00:13:00.840 friends all thought it was for some reason. 208 00:13:01.279 --> 00:13:03.399 Well, of course, it's goes all the way back to 209 00:13:04.279 --> 00:13:07.120 ancient history, doesn't it, with the mound builders and all 210 00:13:07.159 --> 00:13:07.480 of that. 211 00:13:08.000 --> 00:13:10.279 Well, I mean even within that family probably even you know, 212 00:13:10.759 --> 00:13:13.200 maybe even a different track, because I believe those ancient 213 00:13:13.279 --> 00:13:15.679 kings of Tara they claim to be descended from, they 214 00:13:15.799 --> 00:13:17.960 used to be crowned on a mound over there right 215 00:13:18.039 --> 00:13:18.399 the hill. 216 00:13:19.320 --> 00:13:22.919 Yeah, and wasn't like Jeckell Island supposed to be there 217 00:13:23.000 --> 00:13:26.360 was something built on a mound or am I making up? 218 00:13:26.879 --> 00:13:31.480 Okay? The Rockefellers another Society family out of Society, Cincinnati 219 00:13:31.519 --> 00:13:34.759 family out of New York, the New York chapter they 220 00:13:34.799 --> 00:13:38.080 owned they owned the uh, the Indian Mound Cottage down 221 00:13:38.080 --> 00:13:40.799 there where the secret meetings were held for the rituals. 222 00:13:40.799 --> 00:13:42.639 What I thought, that's what I thought was just. 223 00:13:42.600 --> 00:13:44.600 Form of the magic that we call the Federal Reserve 224 00:13:48.240 --> 00:13:51.320 it's definitely it's always mound stuff with these people. And 225 00:13:51.320 --> 00:13:52.919 that's what I'm saying, Like I was gonna call it 226 00:13:52.919 --> 00:13:54.519 the Hill Kamara, but I'm like, no, No, that's I'm 227 00:13:54.519 --> 00:13:57.159 thinking in my head, that's that's Mormon stuff. That's Mormon stuff. 228 00:13:57.559 --> 00:14:00.600 The Hill, the Hill Tara is the a is a 229 00:14:00.600 --> 00:14:03.200 place over there in Ireland where the old ancient kings 230 00:14:03.200 --> 00:14:08.440 of ancient Celtic kings used to you know, the other coronations, 231 00:14:08.720 --> 00:14:11.600 rituals and ceremonies. So that's who the worlds claimed to 232 00:14:11.639 --> 00:14:12.480 be descended from. 233 00:14:13.159 --> 00:14:16.720 That's so nuts to me because it's like they have 234 00:14:16.799 --> 00:14:21.080 little pockets everywhere. It's not just in America obviously, because 235 00:14:22.519 --> 00:14:26.679 there's members of the family like Sir Frank Weld he 236 00:14:26.840 --> 00:14:32.200 was the Prime Minister of New Zealand and also the 237 00:14:32.240 --> 00:14:38.159 Governor of Western Australia. And then like Thomas Weld, he 238 00:14:38.279 --> 00:14:40.639 was one of the ones who helped create Harvard and 239 00:14:40.679 --> 00:14:43.639 he was a personal friend of King George. 240 00:14:43.720 --> 00:14:49.480 The third typical Anglo focused family. They seem to be 241 00:14:49.519 --> 00:14:52.799 still to this day and they're having this Anglo American influence, 242 00:14:52.840 --> 00:14:55.919 you know, this this British influence on America. And speaking 243 00:14:55.960 --> 00:14:58.279 of that speaking of that, back to Bill, well right 244 00:14:58.320 --> 00:15:00.120 where I took us off on the standards they're Julia. 245 00:15:00.320 --> 00:15:02.600 So Bill Weld was the governor, as you pointed out, 246 00:15:03.120 --> 00:15:07.159 Tuesday's cousin, and Whitey Boulger's brother was the President of 247 00:15:07.200 --> 00:15:10.679 the State Senate, Bill Bill Bulger. So I'm not sure 248 00:15:10.679 --> 00:15:12.480 if I'm sure either of you were aware of that, 249 00:15:12.480 --> 00:15:15.759 that the infamous gangster Whitey Bulger, while he's being a gangster, 250 00:15:15.840 --> 00:15:18.080 his brother's the president of the State Senate in the 251 00:15:18.080 --> 00:15:19.080 same city of Boston. 252 00:15:19.120 --> 00:15:24.519 There figure, Yeah, so somebody on both sides. 253 00:15:24.600 --> 00:15:26.919 Exactly, And well they're running the same operations, just from 254 00:15:26.919 --> 00:15:30.600 different roubles. So Bill Weld and Bill Bulger get in 255 00:15:30.639 --> 00:15:33.919 an infamous dispute. Maybe too much of a New England 256 00:15:34.000 --> 00:15:35.360 or to even know this story, but they get an 257 00:15:35.360 --> 00:15:38.120 into infamous dispute on the floor of the State House 258 00:15:38.919 --> 00:15:42.799 and they're in Boston, and Bulger's roasting Weld saying like, 259 00:15:42.840 --> 00:15:44.799 you know, oh, my family's been here since blah blah 260 00:15:44.840 --> 00:15:48.960 blah blah blah, and well and well you know, watches them, 261 00:15:49.000 --> 00:15:51.639 you know, in his little temper tantrum in front of 262 00:15:51.639 --> 00:15:54.559 the entire again the joint session. Again, he's the governor 263 00:15:54.600 --> 00:15:56.440 there at the state House, you know, Bill Bolger's house. 264 00:15:56.440 --> 00:15:59.159 He's running as the state's state's president of the State Senate. 265 00:15:59.639 --> 00:16:01.679 And Well just replies with you, we sent over our 266 00:16:01.720 --> 00:16:05.879 help here first. So that's that's the Weld family. That's 267 00:16:05.919 --> 00:16:08.720 the Well family. H yeah. 268 00:16:08.759 --> 00:16:13.080 Well, and they're also responsible for like setting up major 269 00:16:13.240 --> 00:16:19.720 trade routes and stuff. And like so William Gordon Weld 270 00:16:20.519 --> 00:16:23.679 founded some kind of fleet of trading vessels which did 271 00:16:23.759 --> 00:16:27.200 opium trade to China. That I mean, this is the 272 00:16:27.240 --> 00:16:29.480 Weld fan This is what they're known for. I mean, 273 00:16:31.440 --> 00:16:36.639 and so and so William Gordon Weld's son taught William 274 00:16:36.720 --> 00:16:40.879 Fletcher Weld. He expanded like this little empire, right, and 275 00:16:40.919 --> 00:16:44.360 he introduced an even bigger fleet of ships and they 276 00:16:44.360 --> 00:16:49.039 were called the black Horse flag Fleet, and they were 277 00:16:49.080 --> 00:16:52.639 opium traders and they were coming straight out of like 278 00:16:53.039 --> 00:16:56.919 Massachusetts doing opium trade. I mean, this family, I'm talking 279 00:16:56.960 --> 00:17:00.279 like they are the elites. They're the Brahmins, they're the 280 00:17:00.320 --> 00:17:04.440 elite class. They're doing opium trade. They're involved in government, 281 00:17:04.480 --> 00:17:08.319 they're involved in religion. They're in New Zealand, they're in Australia, 282 00:17:08.559 --> 00:17:14.759 they're everywhere literally from going all the way back to 283 00:17:14.880 --> 00:17:19.200 King George the third and he like knighted some of them. 284 00:17:19.640 --> 00:17:24.720 So this is right for centuries, right right, kind of 285 00:17:24.759 --> 00:17:31.279 like a like a roths child for America. Yeah, because everybody. 286 00:17:30.880 --> 00:17:35.759 Goes still more overtly. What's that I said? 287 00:17:35.759 --> 00:17:39.480 I think everybody fixates on like Rockefeller and like names 288 00:17:39.519 --> 00:17:43.119 like that, But the Weld family is should be mentioned 289 00:17:43.279 --> 00:17:44.720 when those things come up. 290 00:17:45.240 --> 00:17:48.160 For sure, and my and my and my perspective, they're 291 00:17:48.279 --> 00:17:51.359 one of the same. They're both the Society Cincinnati families. 292 00:17:51.359 --> 00:17:54.480 But you know, in regard to the Welds, they seem 293 00:17:54.480 --> 00:17:56.839 more overtly involved in witchcraft throughout their history. 294 00:17:57.319 --> 00:17:57.799 Mm hmmm. 295 00:17:58.960 --> 00:18:00.440 I'm not saying the other one is, and I'm just 296 00:18:00.440 --> 00:18:03.039 saying they seem to brag about it. And I'm not 297 00:18:03.119 --> 00:18:05.839 even talking about this time Tuesday Weld were a witch's 298 00:18:05.920 --> 00:18:10.359 hat to an interview to back. Yeah, he a witch 299 00:18:10.359 --> 00:18:11.119 in the seventies. 300 00:18:11.799 --> 00:18:14.799 You know where she did that interview? It was the 301 00:18:15.720 --> 00:18:21.359 Chateau Marmont in California, where like I'm pretty sure that's 302 00:18:21.359 --> 00:18:25.119 where John Belu she died, and like Anton Levey used 303 00:18:25.160 --> 00:18:29.480 to hang out and it's supposedly haunted by all the 304 00:18:29.519 --> 00:18:33.039 ghosts of all the dead celebrities that have passed through 305 00:18:33.039 --> 00:18:35.799 that she did that interview there, I'm and I'm pretty 306 00:18:35.799 --> 00:18:40.680 sure she's she's made fun in the public eye of 307 00:18:40.799 --> 00:18:43.720 like I'm a witch and I have a high pedigree 308 00:18:43.880 --> 00:18:46.119 from this this elite family. What are you going to 309 00:18:46.200 --> 00:18:48.680 do about it? Like she's said stuff like that. 310 00:18:48.799 --> 00:18:50.640 I mean pretty much. She has got a lot of 311 00:18:50.640 --> 00:18:55.160 connections to the Hotel Marmont there, so well, Jack's Jack's 312 00:18:55.400 --> 00:18:57.640 one of his best friends in life. Mister Bob Cocaine 313 00:18:57.640 --> 00:19:02.559 Evans his producer buddy for the film Godfather. Al Ruddy 314 00:19:03.279 --> 00:19:07.519 is Al Ruddy's wife own that's Chateau Marmont Hotel mm 315 00:19:07.640 --> 00:19:10.279 HM back in the sixties and early seventies. 316 00:19:11.160 --> 00:19:15.079 It's just so crazy because it's like I said, she's 317 00:19:15.160 --> 00:19:19.039 she's like the Babylon girl, but she's not because she's 318 00:19:19.079 --> 00:19:23.759 everywhere and nowhere and like a ghost. She's like a 319 00:19:23.759 --> 00:19:27.359 ghost in Hollywood, like she pops up everywhere. Everyone knows her. 320 00:19:28.160 --> 00:19:30.920 But she's not a household name like Maryland, right, She's 321 00:19:30.920 --> 00:19:35.200 not a house or even Jane Mansfield exactly. 322 00:19:35.480 --> 00:19:39.799 Yes, So getting kind of more into her now that 323 00:19:39.839 --> 00:19:42.960 we know about like her family and shit. She was 324 00:19:43.000 --> 00:19:51.480 born on August twenty seventh, nineteen forty three, and it's 325 00:19:51.599 --> 00:19:55.440 based on the research I've done. Like in these elite cults, 326 00:19:56.359 --> 00:19:59.839 people like Tuesday are chosen at a very early age 327 00:20:00.119 --> 00:20:03.279 carry out whatever it is that they have for them, 328 00:20:03.599 --> 00:20:07.960 and I do think that she was chosen relatively. I 329 00:20:08.000 --> 00:20:12.799 think seven, as you said earlier, is probably when they 330 00:20:12.799 --> 00:20:17.839 started noticing, because they said that she had abundant psychic 331 00:20:17.920 --> 00:20:23.960 and clairvoyant abilities from a very young age, and this 332 00:20:24.240 --> 00:20:29.119 was something that they covet obviously, especially when you come 333 00:20:29.160 --> 00:20:33.920 from a family, an elite family, and you're got clairvoyant 334 00:20:33.920 --> 00:20:41.240 and psychic abilities. So she's like a nineteen sixties Laurel 335 00:20:41.359 --> 00:20:44.839 Canyon eragal, you know. And she was in the movies, 336 00:20:45.759 --> 00:20:52.119 but she wasn't like Maryland's status famous, which I'll explain 337 00:20:52.200 --> 00:20:56.440 why later on. But she's like your typical archetype of 338 00:20:56.519 --> 00:21:02.119 the Babylon like blonde hair, blue eyed sex kitten. This 339 00:21:02.200 --> 00:21:06.319 is what the perfect woman should look like kind of thing, 340 00:21:07.599 --> 00:21:08.160 oh for sure. 341 00:21:08.200 --> 00:21:09.519 And I think that was a role though, is what 342 00:21:09.599 --> 00:21:12.039 all you're describing. This is all very well organized because 343 00:21:12.519 --> 00:21:14.400 this is one of her first major acting She was 344 00:21:14.400 --> 00:21:16.400 in other things starting very young. I think her first 345 00:21:16.400 --> 00:21:19.359 acting role was Ege seven. I think she was sixteen 346 00:21:19.400 --> 00:21:21.880 here in this in this TV show called The Familiar 347 00:21:21.880 --> 00:21:25.039 with this one Julia the Many Loves of Dobie Gillis. 348 00:21:25.359 --> 00:21:29.960 I came across that one. Yeah, I've never watched it, obviously, but. 349 00:21:30.279 --> 00:21:33.640 Oh strangely enough, I watched as long before I really 350 00:21:33.720 --> 00:21:37.400 understood her, knew who Tuesday World was really was. It 351 00:21:37.400 --> 00:21:39.279 was a popular show in my household growing up. 352 00:21:40.559 --> 00:21:45.200 Well, I actually, so you know, like when somebody's getting started, 353 00:21:45.559 --> 00:21:48.160 they'll be in like some shit stuff before they like 354 00:21:48.200 --> 00:21:50.759 really hit the big time and like get like a 355 00:21:50.759 --> 00:21:52.400 all right, not Tuesday. 356 00:21:52.960 --> 00:21:56.039 So no, no, And this show shows it right here. 357 00:21:56.079 --> 00:21:59.079 So the synopsis of the show is the end of 358 00:21:59.119 --> 00:22:02.160 the innocence of the ninth fifties before the oncoming nineteen 359 00:22:02.200 --> 00:22:03.039 sixties revolution. 360 00:22:03.519 --> 00:22:06.640 Well, she played a huge part of in real life role. 361 00:22:07.039 --> 00:22:10.519 Yeah, yes, that's what the show that was, the show 362 00:22:10.640 --> 00:22:12.400 like that that was kind of the start of her 363 00:22:12.880 --> 00:22:15.480 revolution of the sixties, right where she's kind of this 364 00:22:15.960 --> 00:22:18.359 puppet master to six. It starts in nineteen fifty nine 365 00:22:18.359 --> 00:22:21.440 when she's sixteen, sixteen years old in this TV show 366 00:22:21.440 --> 00:22:24.400 that the TV shows about the end of the fifties 367 00:22:24.400 --> 00:22:27.160 and the you know, this new era of get out 368 00:22:27.160 --> 00:22:28.519 with the beat next and in with these you know, 369 00:22:28.559 --> 00:22:30.200 the kind of this new hippie kind of scene. 370 00:22:30.200 --> 00:22:33.880 Almost she played a huge role in the inspiration behind 371 00:22:33.920 --> 00:22:36.960 a lot of music and culture too. But like I 372 00:22:37.160 --> 00:22:42.440 have so, let's say she's developing these psychic abilities around 373 00:22:42.440 --> 00:22:47.039 like age seven, and then she began a modeling career 374 00:22:47.200 --> 00:22:52.119 at age twelve, and she landed her film debut at 375 00:22:52.200 --> 00:22:55.920 age twelve in a freaking Alfred Hitchcock movie. 376 00:22:56.400 --> 00:22:56.920 There you go. 377 00:22:57.480 --> 00:23:00.160 So it's like she skipped all of the like, oh, 378 00:23:00.200 --> 00:23:03.599 I gotta try to get roles and stuff. It was 379 00:23:03.640 --> 00:23:07.400 like born psychic twelve years old, she's a model and 380 00:23:07.440 --> 00:23:10.920 she's in an Alfred Hitchcock movie and literally nobody knows 381 00:23:10.920 --> 00:23:12.920 about her. It's like she didn't even have to try. 382 00:23:13.039 --> 00:23:15.400 They just like threw her in and was like, hey, 383 00:23:15.480 --> 00:23:18.720 Alfred Hitchcock, here you go, bitch, Like how many people 384 00:23:18.759 --> 00:23:21.519 would have died to be in an Alfred Hitchcock movie. 385 00:23:21.599 --> 00:23:24.000 You know he was huge back then. 386 00:23:25.359 --> 00:23:27.480 And this is actually do you think it's just because 387 00:23:27.480 --> 00:23:28.000 of her family? 388 00:23:28.079 --> 00:23:28.200 Right? 389 00:23:28.200 --> 00:23:30.960 Her family's running Hollywood? And you can answer this. 390 00:23:31.279 --> 00:23:34.759 Oh, one and a lesser known thing about her as 391 00:23:34.799 --> 00:23:38.759 well is she was Stanley Kubrick's first pick for Lolita, 392 00:23:39.720 --> 00:23:44.319 right wow, right, you know, the infamous pedophile movie. 393 00:23:44.759 --> 00:23:48.119 So when I say her family, I mean like the 394 00:23:48.200 --> 00:23:52.000 cold family, right, like the family of which the Wells 395 00:23:52.039 --> 00:23:53.920 are obviously a big part of and included in, but 396 00:23:53.960 --> 00:23:56.240 they're not the only family in there, right. 397 00:23:56.759 --> 00:24:00.400 I love this picture of her in Elvis because you know, 398 00:24:00.480 --> 00:24:02.279 I brought it up before. I was like, Oh, did 399 00:24:02.319 --> 00:24:05.720 Elvis know Tuesday Weld? Or do you know that Elvis 400 00:24:05.759 --> 00:24:08.400 knew Tuesday Weld? And it's like, oh, no, I don't 401 00:24:08.400 --> 00:24:11.240 even know who that is. Well, he sure got a 402 00:24:11.279 --> 00:24:15.240 tender love and care for her right there. Yeah, I 403 00:24:16.119 --> 00:24:22.079 picture where he was sneaking a little smooch from Tuesday. 404 00:24:22.079 --> 00:24:23.759 Who is that? 405 00:24:23.759 --> 00:24:28.119 That's mister Steve McQueen. He's part of the family. 406 00:24:29.359 --> 00:24:32.880 Oh one hundred. He's got a nice little hug for 407 00:24:32.960 --> 00:24:33.400 her too. 408 00:24:34.400 --> 00:24:38.079 Yeah, he's as a cousin of mine. I'm McQueen, you 409 00:24:38.200 --> 00:24:42.079 really yeah? Yeah, My second great grandmother is a McQueen, 410 00:24:43.279 --> 00:24:46.319 so I think he's somewhere in my fifth cousin. Anyway, 411 00:24:46.359 --> 00:24:49.759 this is nineteen sixty nine, right, because when this photo 412 00:24:49.799 --> 00:24:54.599 was taken, and so yeah, he steals Bob Evans old 413 00:24:54.599 --> 00:24:57.519 cocaine Bob Evans wife. The next year, Steve Queen does 414 00:25:00.119 --> 00:25:01.720 when I say steel, I think all these people are 415 00:25:01.720 --> 00:25:04.000 involved in the sex Colt right, So like, oh, yeah, 416 00:25:04.039 --> 00:25:06.759 you know, he runs he runs off with cocaine Bob's wife. 417 00:25:06.920 --> 00:25:09.319 She's married to George propart at this time. I believe 418 00:25:09.319 --> 00:25:11.079 that's when they're married. Is around the same time. 419 00:25:12.079 --> 00:25:16.480 Well, and during the time when she, oh, I don't 420 00:25:16.519 --> 00:25:17.440 know how old she was. 421 00:25:18.319 --> 00:25:20.519 No, No, the A Team he was the he was 422 00:25:20.559 --> 00:25:22.880 the star of the television show Now Team No. 423 00:25:23.480 --> 00:25:26.480 I thought you said she I don't know. 424 00:25:27.119 --> 00:25:30.359 Yeah, Colnonival, Hannibal Smith. I'm too big of an eighteen fan, 425 00:25:30.400 --> 00:25:32.480 I guess. But but anyone in the eighties, you know, 426 00:25:32.519 --> 00:25:34.480 remembers this dude from from that. They don't remember Hi 427 00:25:34.480 --> 00:25:36.000 from Breakfast to Tiffany's, you know what I mean. 428 00:25:37.519 --> 00:25:42.039 No, Well, it seems like to me everybody had a 429 00:25:42.039 --> 00:25:44.240 bit of a crush on her. I think Elvis was 430 00:25:44.279 --> 00:25:46.880 still married to Priscilla when he was in a romantic 431 00:25:46.920 --> 00:25:50.359 relationship with Tuesday. So that was all kind of like 432 00:25:50.480 --> 00:25:54.559 hush hush and like swept under the rug because those 433 00:25:54.599 --> 00:25:57.119 two were in a movie together, which I will get 434 00:25:57.160 --> 00:25:58.200 to in a minute. 435 00:25:58.000 --> 00:25:58.160 But. 436 00:26:00.160 --> 00:26:02.079 JJ, have you heard of a movie she was in 437 00:26:02.200 --> 00:26:03.559 called Lord Love a Duck. 438 00:26:04.400 --> 00:26:06.440 I was going to bring that movie up to Sure, 439 00:26:07.680 --> 00:26:10.119 that's exactly like that Debbie Gillis show. It's a it's 440 00:26:10.160 --> 00:26:13.400 a it's it's spawning this revolution that she's in charge 441 00:26:13.440 --> 00:26:14.960 of and and we'll kind of bragging about it more 442 00:26:15.039 --> 00:26:15.359 or less. 443 00:26:15.400 --> 00:26:19.599 But right, so like it's basically like this demon that 444 00:26:20.000 --> 00:26:23.319 grants you wishes, right, and she just wants fame and 445 00:26:23.359 --> 00:26:24.160 she wants whatever. 446 00:26:24.480 --> 00:26:27.799 But anyways, but she's like a cult hypriesest in that 447 00:26:27.920 --> 00:26:30.000 right Barbara Ann, right, Yeah. 448 00:26:29.880 --> 00:26:33.039 She she plays Barbara and nicknamed Barbie right. 449 00:26:34.440 --> 00:26:37.200 Yeah. But they she allegedly sanging on the Beach Boys 450 00:26:37.240 --> 00:26:39.240 song Barbara Ann as a tribute to this movie that 451 00:26:39.319 --> 00:26:41.079 came out at the same time as this movie. 452 00:26:41.519 --> 00:26:42.519 That's what I was gonna say. 453 00:26:42.640 --> 00:26:47.119 So she's talking about the process again. Yeah, the Beach Boys. 454 00:26:47.200 --> 00:26:51.960 We were infatuated with her, and that's where Barbara Ann 455 00:26:52.039 --> 00:26:55.039 came from, was this Lord Love a Duck because they 456 00:26:55.039 --> 00:27:00.279 were they were infatuated with Tuesday. Yeah, and it's to me, 457 00:27:00.359 --> 00:27:03.240 it's signaling again, like she's the Barbie, right, And I 458 00:27:03.359 --> 00:27:05.480 kind of talked to Nick before about like where the 459 00:27:05.519 --> 00:27:08.000 Barbie origins came from, and they're pretty. 460 00:27:07.759 --> 00:27:10.960 Sister, you know, you're saying, like the Barbie doll is 461 00:27:11.000 --> 00:27:13.119 like some sort of like idol of some regards. 462 00:27:13.440 --> 00:27:18.599 Right. The very first, the very first Barbie doll that 463 00:27:18.680 --> 00:27:25.400 ever came out was was a sex Toyikes. 464 00:27:23.480 --> 00:27:27.160 Yeah, yes it was. It was definitely it was definitely sold. 465 00:27:27.039 --> 00:27:31.359 Sexually, yes, And it had nipples and it had a vagina, 466 00:27:31.519 --> 00:27:34.880 and all they did literally to market it to children 467 00:27:35.000 --> 00:27:37.400 was removed the nipples in the vagina. It was the 468 00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:39.559 same dress, it was the same face, it was the 469 00:27:39.599 --> 00:27:42.359 same hair, it was everything was the same. And when 470 00:27:42.400 --> 00:27:46.160 the guy took this sex doll just removed the anatomy parts. 471 00:27:46.279 --> 00:27:48.400 He took it to like a kid's convention thing to 472 00:27:48.519 --> 00:27:50.799 sell it, and parents were like, what are you doing 473 00:27:50.880 --> 00:27:53.559 with it? Like they were creeped out by it. But 474 00:27:53.680 --> 00:27:56.319 now it's like that's the staple. You know, it's like 475 00:27:56.440 --> 00:28:02.119 a Barbie doll that's sexualizing for children basically for sure, 476 00:28:03.160 --> 00:28:06.279 because before the Barbie, little girls would play with babies 477 00:28:06.680 --> 00:28:08.640 and like they were learning how to become a mother, 478 00:28:09.960 --> 00:28:13.319 how to be a whore, right, Yeah, and then they 479 00:28:13.359 --> 00:28:16.039 introduced the Ken doll, and it's like, use your imagination. 480 00:28:17.279 --> 00:28:19.000 Yeah, they got a new evolution. I mean, I like 481 00:28:19.000 --> 00:28:20.519 how you're describing this, because that's how I look at 482 00:28:20.519 --> 00:28:25.000 the new evolution of this stuff, the American something American 483 00:28:25.039 --> 00:28:26.519 dolls or American girls or something. 484 00:28:26.599 --> 00:28:28.920 Oh yeah, American girl dolls. 485 00:28:29.119 --> 00:28:31.839 It's that's that's Barbie, even to the next level of 486 00:28:31.880 --> 00:28:34.519 evolution of this kind of psyoptom floor you're describing. 487 00:28:34.759 --> 00:28:39.279 Yes, yes, but so I think it's interesting that she's 488 00:28:39.359 --> 00:28:42.359 like Barbara Ann in this movie. Yeah, and the Beach 489 00:28:42.400 --> 00:28:45.599 Boys write this song she's Barbie. She's blonde hair, she's 490 00:28:45.680 --> 00:28:48.759 blue eyes, she's got like the perfect body, literally everything. 491 00:28:48.920 --> 00:28:52.240 She is the epitome of she supposed. 492 00:28:52.440 --> 00:28:57.519 That too shows Allegedly she's a backup singer in the 493 00:28:57.519 --> 00:29:00.240 song Barbara Ann by the Beach Boys again. Is now 494 00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:03.200 their obsession with her makes sense. Their their music producers, 495 00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:06.039 mister Phil spector of the process guy, you know, the 496 00:29:06.079 --> 00:29:10.680 wall of sound guy, you know, the wrecking crew guy there, 497 00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:13.920 and then you know, so the beach wasn't surrounded by that, 498 00:29:13.960 --> 00:29:16.480 you know, you got you got what's his name, Brian Wilson, 499 00:29:17.279 --> 00:29:19.759 you know, is the financier of Charles Manson family. Why 500 00:29:19.759 --> 00:29:21.920 I would argue he's just helping finance the process at 501 00:29:21.920 --> 00:29:22.960 that rate, you know what I mean? 502 00:29:23.000 --> 00:29:25.680 And you know Dennis Wilson, He's got to. 503 00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:27.359 Be Dennis Wilson. My apologies. 504 00:29:27.440 --> 00:29:29.119 Oh, I was gonna say he's the one that had 505 00:29:29.119 --> 00:29:33.440 a big heart on for Manson, had him living in 506 00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:34.160 his house. 507 00:29:33.920 --> 00:29:38.279 And ship, right, and they're all friends with I always 508 00:29:38.279 --> 00:29:40.880 missed this dude's name up. He's a music producer. He 509 00:29:40.960 --> 00:29:43.519 wrote the song Coo Como with the Wilson Boys, you know, 510 00:29:43.559 --> 00:29:48.440 for the Scientology Tom Cruise classic film in the eighties, Cocktails, 511 00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:52.559 the song written for that. He's he was. He was 512 00:29:53.119 --> 00:29:56.720 Charlie's a cellmate at Terminal Island. Phil, I don't know. 513 00:29:58.640 --> 00:29:59.640 That's a very mi. 514 00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:03.920 Music producer, friend of the Beach Boys. Obviously did produce 515 00:30:03.960 --> 00:30:06.599 some Beach Boys stuff along with Riding with the Beach 516 00:30:06.640 --> 00:30:07.359 Boys and Kokomo. 517 00:30:09.759 --> 00:30:10.119 Yeah. 518 00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:13.079 Might I might have got Terry Melcher mashed up with 519 00:30:13.119 --> 00:30:14.960 Phil Coffin, but they're both in the same mix of 520 00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:17.440 the Beach Boys, right, these people around Manson. 521 00:30:17.920 --> 00:30:20.079 The guy, Yeah, I was gonna say Phil Kaufman is 522 00:30:20.079 --> 00:30:24.279 definitely mentioned in Dave McGowan's work. 523 00:30:25.119 --> 00:30:26.519 Yeah, that's why I first learned about him. 524 00:30:26.599 --> 00:30:30.640 Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's how I know about him at least, And. 525 00:30:31.640 --> 00:30:34.559 He was everywhere in the music scene. But yeah, he served. 526 00:30:34.640 --> 00:30:36.640 He was there in Terminal Island there with with Chuck. 527 00:30:38.359 --> 00:30:43.400 That's so wild, dude. You know something else about her? 528 00:30:43.440 --> 00:30:48.799 I think, if I'm not mistaken, she was like fifteen 529 00:30:49.519 --> 00:30:50.559 in Lord Love a Duck. 530 00:30:51.359 --> 00:30:55.359 Yeah sounds and sounds about right. So she was born 531 00:30:55.400 --> 00:30:59.000 in what forty three? Uh huh, Yeah, I think she 532 00:30:59.079 --> 00:31:03.240 was probably like twenty than maybe, oh, she was twenty three, 533 00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:04.240 twenty p twenty two. 534 00:31:05.160 --> 00:31:07.480 So this must be a quote from a different movie, 535 00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:09.880 because I say I have in my notes one of 536 00:31:09.920 --> 00:31:12.680 the male actors she worked with on one of these movies. 537 00:31:12.720 --> 00:31:16.240 I guess it wasn't this one. A quote from him 538 00:31:16.440 --> 00:31:23.240 was Tuesday is fifteen going on twenty seven. He said that, 539 00:31:23.799 --> 00:31:29.119 So it was like, I don't know, they all had 540 00:31:29.160 --> 00:31:32.319 like an infatuation with her even when she was young, young, 541 00:31:32.599 --> 00:31:38.319 like she started when she was twelve, got the Alfred 542 00:31:38.440 --> 00:31:42.200 Hitchcock movie. Then she's with Elvis, she's with Jack Nicholson, 543 00:31:42.440 --> 00:31:46.720 she's obviously fifteen, still doing stuff and they're like, oh, yeah, Tuesday, 544 00:31:47.119 --> 00:31:49.160 she's fifteen going on twenty seven. 545 00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:53.119 Okay, who said that? Do you have a source for 546 00:31:53.400 --> 00:31:57.160 I just said, alway, is it? 547 00:31:57.240 --> 00:31:58.000 Did you find it? 548 00:31:58.599 --> 00:32:01.039 That's my search the quote, that's what it came up with, 549 00:32:01.119 --> 00:32:03.400 Danny K. But I don't know this actor though. Do 550 00:32:03.400 --> 00:32:03.880 you know him? 551 00:32:04.960 --> 00:32:08.839 No? The article that I pulled it from, said a 552 00:32:10.200 --> 00:32:14.680 co male actor she worked with, referred to her as quote, 553 00:32:14.960 --> 00:32:17.519 Tuesday is fifteen going on twenty seven. 554 00:32:18.359 --> 00:32:20.160 It's this dude, Danny. I don't know this guy's work, 555 00:32:20.200 --> 00:32:23.519 but he was much older dude than Tuesday. But he's 556 00:32:23.559 --> 00:32:26.599 buried in Westchester County of New York. There Nick Hell 557 00:32:28.680 --> 00:32:33.920 type a book Westchester specifically, right, So is he like. 558 00:32:34.279 --> 00:32:36.440 A big wig guy or I don't know? 559 00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:42.000 Says he says he was an actor, comedian, singer, and dancer. 560 00:32:43.440 --> 00:32:45.559 She also knew Bing Crosby too. 561 00:32:45.960 --> 00:32:48.440 Oh maybe they were all in White Christmas together. 562 00:32:48.880 --> 00:32:52.640 Yeah, maybe I didn't know her to be in White Christmas? 563 00:32:52.759 --> 00:32:53.359 Is she in that? 564 00:32:54.200 --> 00:32:56.119 No? I'm just saying I know that's a been Crosby 565 00:32:56.200 --> 00:32:57.799 Danny K, and I read recognized. That's the only thing 566 00:32:57.839 --> 00:33:01.960 I recognized. Danny Kay from Hey yeah, Crosby. 567 00:33:03.240 --> 00:33:05.720 I mean she knows everybody, dude, Literally. 568 00:33:05.319 --> 00:33:07.119 She does, doesn't she because there is a way older 569 00:33:07.160 --> 00:33:08.079 actor than she is. 570 00:33:08.599 --> 00:33:12.240 Yeah, and apparently he was fantasizing about her being twenty seven. 571 00:33:15.839 --> 00:33:18.559 Okay, yeah, she was sixteen and that she was sixteen. 572 00:33:18.559 --> 00:33:18.720 Oh. 573 00:33:18.839 --> 00:33:22.400 They did a film called Five Pennies Together in nineteen 574 00:33:22.440 --> 00:33:24.559 fifty nine, so she was five right around the same 575 00:33:24.559 --> 00:33:26.200 time she did that Debid Guilli stuff. 576 00:33:27.519 --> 00:33:27.960 She was. 577 00:33:29.240 --> 00:33:32.880 Later on after this stuff, she was in something called 578 00:33:33.039 --> 00:33:38.799 seventy seven Sunset Strip, which also stood out. Yeah. I 579 00:33:38.880 --> 00:33:42.759 think it was a show called seventy seven Sunset Strip 580 00:33:42.960 --> 00:33:46.839 and it was another like weird Laurel Canyony weirdness. But 581 00:33:48.039 --> 00:33:52.039 you know seventy seven, You're right, seventy seven like the 582 00:33:52.079 --> 00:33:56.599 OZ the Magician's number whatever, and seventy seven. 583 00:33:57.359 --> 00:33:59.880 Yeah, well I was seven and stuff. Yeah, I find that. 584 00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:01.640 I was gonna say, I don't. I don't know what 585 00:34:01.640 --> 00:34:03.400 the meetings are, ma. It seems creepy that they would 586 00:34:03.480 --> 00:34:05.359 name it that, right whatever, The seven seven's got to 587 00:34:05.400 --> 00:34:06.200 mean something, right. 588 00:34:06.559 --> 00:34:10.119 And it's sunset strip, right, like where all the Laurel Canyons. 589 00:34:10.559 --> 00:34:13.760 Shit's going down and. 590 00:34:12.760 --> 00:34:14.880 It's not yet though, right, not yet, because this is 591 00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:19.719 from fifty eight to sixty four pop off until sixty four, right, 592 00:34:21.679 --> 00:34:22.000 was it? 593 00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:24.199 I thought it was a little bit earlier than that. 594 00:34:24.599 --> 00:34:25.519 I could no, I believe. 595 00:34:25.559 --> 00:34:28.519 I believe the Birds first album was maybe late sixty 596 00:34:28.559 --> 00:34:32.000 three with all that Dylan music. Oh, this is Vito 597 00:34:32.039 --> 00:34:35.239 Policas is the is the proto Manson guy in Laurel Canyon. 598 00:34:35.239 --> 00:34:37.280 I do? I think that's around sixty three or sixty four. 599 00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:41.320 Yeah, so was Sunset Strip this seventy seven Sunset Strip? 600 00:34:41.440 --> 00:34:42.519 Was that Vito's time? 601 00:34:43.679 --> 00:34:44.960 He would have been hanging out in that at the 602 00:34:44.960 --> 00:34:45.519 time yet. 603 00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:50.239 Because he was like the granddaddy of the whole movement, right, yeah, exactly. 604 00:34:50.360 --> 00:34:51.559 Yeah. 605 00:34:51.880 --> 00:34:55.519 So this is a series and her episode was called 606 00:34:56.320 --> 00:35:03.360 Secret Island or something like that. Okay, but she so 607 00:35:03.519 --> 00:35:04.960 after being really. 608 00:35:04.800 --> 00:35:08.079 Creepy show Julie, I've never I don't paid attention to this. 609 00:35:08.920 --> 00:35:11.719 I have ex active and former w W two w 610 00:35:11.960 --> 00:35:15.119 W two World War two Office of Strategic Service is 611 00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:18.119 a secret agent, right, That's that's the main character, is 612 00:35:18.119 --> 00:35:18.920 an OSS guy. 613 00:35:20.920 --> 00:35:24.679 This is where I mentioned this stuff because after she's 614 00:35:24.719 --> 00:35:28.440 in this show, she's in a movie with Dick Clark 615 00:35:28.760 --> 00:35:32.719 that's called Sex kittens go to college. 616 00:35:33.280 --> 00:35:34.519 I'm familiar with that. 617 00:35:35.360 --> 00:35:40.239 She went from seventy seven Sunset strip to sex kittens 618 00:35:40.239 --> 00:35:44.639 go to college. It's like they pointed out there for you, you. 619 00:35:43.880 --> 00:35:46.840 Know, quite a career trajectory, right. 620 00:35:47.800 --> 00:35:49.760 Sex kittens go to college? 621 00:35:49.960 --> 00:35:50.360 Like what. 622 00:35:53.320 --> 00:35:55.159 Oh we we I think we skipped over this when 623 00:35:55.199 --> 00:35:58.679 chronologically she was in uh oh yeah, Rock with a 624 00:35:58.719 --> 00:36:01.760 convicted child child say offender, Chuck Berry. 625 00:36:01.760 --> 00:36:04.559 M oh yes, Chuck Berry. 626 00:36:04.840 --> 00:36:05.039 Yeah. 627 00:36:06.159 --> 00:36:07.719 I'm not sure if he was convicted yet. He was. 628 00:36:07.800 --> 00:36:10.079 He was getting popped right around this time though for 629 00:36:10.119 --> 00:36:11.559 the violations of the main act. 630 00:36:12.760 --> 00:36:15.719 Well, was it before or after this Wild in the 631 00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:19.719 Country with Elvis came out and that's when they developed 632 00:36:19.719 --> 00:36:20.880 their little romance. 633 00:36:22.199 --> 00:36:24.760 Yeah, I don't know because I'm trying to remember when 634 00:36:24.840 --> 00:36:28.960 Chuck Berry because the music, the music record studio company 635 00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:32.719 folks literally brokeer Chuck Berry's release from prison, like they 636 00:36:32.719 --> 00:36:34.199 want the Feds want to keep him in there for 637 00:36:34.199 --> 00:36:36.239 like a long time. They're like, look, this dude's going 638 00:36:36.280 --> 00:36:38.039 to make us a lot of money. You know, we 639 00:36:38.119 --> 00:36:40.360 got to get him out of there, you know. So 640 00:36:40.440 --> 00:36:41.760 he didn't give what he did about soon and a half. 641 00:36:41.760 --> 00:36:43.239 I think he was out by nineteen sixty, but it 642 00:36:43.320 --> 00:36:45.039 was right around this time he was with Tuesday. Well 643 00:36:45.119 --> 00:36:47.320 that is when he got popped. When he was when 644 00:36:47.360 --> 00:36:51.719 he was committing violations of the Man Act. So child 645 00:36:51.800 --> 00:36:55.239 sex trafficking wasn't really technically illegal in many states where 646 00:36:55.239 --> 00:36:57.320 there was a federal law at the time called the 647 00:36:57.320 --> 00:37:00.559 Man Act, which was taking an underage, you know, minor 648 00:37:00.599 --> 00:37:03.079 across state lines for the purposes of sexual activity. And 649 00:37:03.559 --> 00:37:06.960 that's what Chuck Barry was doing. What to be doing that, 650 00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:09.119 He was doing a lot of it. He later would 651 00:37:09.119 --> 00:37:11.519 write a number one single called My Dingling and Tour 652 00:37:11.559 --> 00:37:15.679 American having people sing along with a convicted child sex offender. 653 00:37:15.800 --> 00:37:18.719 You know, it's kind of dark. Yeah, that's Tuesday's frinds, 654 00:37:18.920 --> 00:37:19.880 that's Tuesday's friends. 655 00:37:20.360 --> 00:37:23.039 Well, I was gonna say too. In that Elvis movie, 656 00:37:23.079 --> 00:37:25.719 she was the Wild in the Country. I don't know 657 00:37:25.719 --> 00:37:27.719 if it was before or after this, she played an 658 00:37:27.760 --> 00:37:29.280 incest victim. 659 00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:31.039 Oh man with Elvis. 660 00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:32.280 Yeah, with Elvis. 661 00:37:32.480 --> 00:37:35.480 Yeah, that was sixty one. I think I think that 662 00:37:35.559 --> 00:37:37.360 was sixty one. So yeah, The Sex Kinners Go to 663 00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:42.079 College was nineteen sixty with Did Clark. Yeah, wonder like 664 00:37:42.079 --> 00:37:42.679 what goes on? 665 00:37:42.840 --> 00:37:43.039 Right? 666 00:37:43.119 --> 00:37:45.960 Like you got Brookshields as an eleven year old what 667 00:37:46.039 --> 00:37:48.320 in like nineteen seventy eight, you know, naked in a 668 00:37:48.320 --> 00:37:50.760 film as a child prostitute. You got other you know, 669 00:37:50.800 --> 00:37:56.480 obviously Tuesdays of Age here, right, Well she's barely of age. 670 00:37:56.519 --> 00:37:59.639 She's probably seventeen actually in sixteen when she filmed this, right. 671 00:38:01.159 --> 00:38:01.840 She was young? 672 00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:07.000 Yeah, yeah, a little questionable, right, having having a child 673 00:38:07.039 --> 00:38:08.480 in a film called sex Kittens. 674 00:38:08.519 --> 00:38:11.320 Get a call, go and it's like, look at the cover. 675 00:38:11.440 --> 00:38:15.360 It's it's your archetypes. Right, you got Tuesdays, the blonde 676 00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:17.480 with blue eyes, and you got a redhead with a 677 00:38:17.559 --> 00:38:20.639 green shirt on, and then you have the brunette with 678 00:38:20.719 --> 00:38:25.239 like this red polka dot thing. It's it's the Neapolitan 679 00:38:25.599 --> 00:38:26.719 sex kitten. 680 00:38:26.920 --> 00:38:28.320 For you, I know. 681 00:38:28.440 --> 00:38:30.199 So that's what you're Marilyn Monroe on top? 682 00:38:31.280 --> 00:38:33.760 Oh, isn't that Tuesday on top? 683 00:38:33.880 --> 00:38:34.920 I thought this was Tuesday? 684 00:38:35.800 --> 00:38:36.280 Which one? 685 00:38:36.480 --> 00:38:39.719 The red headed middle one? The middle one ere Oh. 686 00:38:40.119 --> 00:38:42.840 I can barely see it because it's so small, but 687 00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:45.199 I mis assumed it's not. 688 00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:47.239 It's not Marilyn Monroe. But I mean, are they trying 689 00:38:47.280 --> 00:38:49.840 to game for Marilyn Monroe? Bit it's made von. 690 00:38:50.079 --> 00:38:53.920 Dorian ooh another blonde hair, blue eyed. 691 00:38:54.400 --> 00:38:57.800 Yeah. Oh, she's one of the three m's, Okay, along 692 00:38:57.800 --> 00:39:00.039 with Marilyn Monroe and Jane Mansfield. Okay, I don't know this. 693 00:39:00.840 --> 00:39:02.840 I don't know her either, Mammy. 694 00:39:02.800 --> 00:39:05.199 Maymy, Mamie Van Dorton. 695 00:39:06.199 --> 00:39:09.119 I'm sure if you looked into her, she falls right 696 00:39:09.159 --> 00:39:11.679 in the same category with all the other. 697 00:39:11.679 --> 00:39:18.199 Archetypes, right, I mean you got Mansfield and Marilyn Monroe, who, 698 00:39:18.519 --> 00:39:22.079 like Tuesday Welder, dedicated to the Satanic Bible, right. 699 00:39:22.480 --> 00:39:28.639 Yes, but you know Tuesday and Maryland were up for 700 00:39:28.719 --> 00:39:33.119 the same parts very often, and they would go with 701 00:39:33.239 --> 00:39:38.320 Marylyn as opposed to Tuesday. And it's like, why is 702 00:39:38.360 --> 00:39:41.920 that because Marylyn is lacking the pedigree that Tuesday has 703 00:39:41.960 --> 00:39:45.760 And why did Tuesday never blow up and become like 704 00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:51.480 a megastar the way that these women did. And this 705 00:39:51.719 --> 00:39:54.280 is how I would explain it. And JJ, you can 706 00:39:55.039 --> 00:39:59.920 agree or disagree, but it's like they use women like 707 00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:04.480 Jane Mansfield and Marilyn Monroe and it's like they get 708 00:40:04.519 --> 00:40:07.559 them and they use them up and they burn them 709 00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:10.719 out and then they throw them away. They like die 710 00:40:10.840 --> 00:40:14.840 horribly at young ages, and it's like they're all they're 711 00:40:14.920 --> 00:40:19.480 they're literally burnt out by the end of their career 712 00:40:19.760 --> 00:40:24.320 in their early you know, twenties and thirties, whereas Tuesday 713 00:40:24.440 --> 00:40:28.000 is almost like she's been protected and she lives still 714 00:40:28.039 --> 00:40:31.840 to this day a ridiculously bizarre, charmed life. 715 00:40:32.719 --> 00:40:36.840 And that, I mean, I agree with you there, Julia 716 00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:38.760 on how they how they burn them out, and is 717 00:40:38.960 --> 00:40:40.800 it's a very intentional thing, I think as well. But 718 00:40:41.320 --> 00:40:43.320 is she? But to be honest with me, here's their life 719 00:40:43.320 --> 00:40:46.000 that all that charmed. She married Dudley Moore. She had 720 00:40:46.000 --> 00:40:49.119 a child with Dudley Moore, that little strange, little hobbit 721 00:40:49.159 --> 00:40:50.559 looking fella. You know what I'm talking about. 722 00:40:50.679 --> 00:40:51.000 Marser. 723 00:40:51.679 --> 00:40:55.360 Yeah, Well, when I I watch charm can life be? 724 00:40:56.039 --> 00:41:00.119 I don't know, but I watched a wizard, right, I've 725 00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:02.199 always written it off like that Dud's gotta be a wizard, right, 726 00:41:02.239 --> 00:41:06.440 I mean, what's off? I guess right, That's what I'm saying, dude, Like, 727 00:41:06.559 --> 00:41:08.039 how what's going on there? 728 00:41:09.000 --> 00:41:12.639 I mean, she when she's she's been interviewed and I've 729 00:41:12.679 --> 00:41:16.679 watched him and she kind of like it was like, 730 00:41:16.719 --> 00:41:19.239 all right, I'm just gonna be a stay at home 731 00:41:19.320 --> 00:41:22.960 mom and just drink wine all day and you know, 732 00:41:23.159 --> 00:41:27.800 sit around and basically she's just living the life of luxury. 733 00:41:27.800 --> 00:41:29.559 I don't know if her husband's a weirdo or not, 734 00:41:29.920 --> 00:41:32.760 but she she got a lot better outcome than Jane 735 00:41:32.840 --> 00:41:35.119 Mansfield and Maryland, I'll tell you that much. 736 00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:38.639 I guess that's that's a good comparison. Although though I 737 00:41:38.639 --> 00:41:41.880 think Homegirl won the won the competition there miss Uh. 738 00:41:42.360 --> 00:41:44.159 I don't know what was her name, Donna von Dene 739 00:41:44.239 --> 00:41:47.519 or whatever, And what was the slaves name again? Maybe 740 00:41:48.559 --> 00:41:51.039 maybe yeah, Mamie von Dene or something. 741 00:41:51.159 --> 00:41:56.480 Yeah, something like that. Feel like, oh, well, maybe she's 742 00:41:56.719 --> 00:41:58.199 maybe she's another Wednesday. 743 00:41:58.840 --> 00:42:01.039 Yeah. 744 00:42:01.119 --> 00:42:04.840 But it's like these other actresses are like expendable. They're 745 00:42:04.880 --> 00:42:08.039 like a dime a dozen. You can create many Marilyn 746 00:42:08.039 --> 00:42:11.079 Monroe's and they've done it throughout time with like Madonna 747 00:42:11.159 --> 00:42:14.920 and Britney Spears and Kesha, and it's like Lady Gaga, 748 00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:17.400 you can create as many as you want of this 749 00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:23.280 archetype of the blonde, blue eyed you know, priestess of 750 00:42:23.840 --> 00:42:27.320 like the upper echelon of women, because they've done it 751 00:42:27.440 --> 00:42:33.119 multiple times, like I said, throughout time. But why is 752 00:42:33.280 --> 00:42:38.519 Tuesday protected? Like why is she set apart? And I 753 00:42:38.559 --> 00:42:42.840 think these other women are like they want to be 754 00:42:42.880 --> 00:42:47.559 a part of the club, right, they don't have the genetics, right, 755 00:42:47.639 --> 00:42:49.880 And it's like the club that they're trying to be 756 00:42:49.920 --> 00:42:52.159 a part of is Tuesday's club. 757 00:42:53.280 --> 00:42:54.800 Like it's like when you joined the mafia or whatever, 758 00:42:54.840 --> 00:42:56.639 you're going to get in so hard unless you're part 759 00:42:56.679 --> 00:42:58.880 of the actual family, right, So like you know, right, 760 00:42:58.960 --> 00:43:01.360 so I kind of view these side characters right, like 761 00:43:01.400 --> 00:43:03.920 they're not quite part of the family, but yeah, they're 762 00:43:03.960 --> 00:43:06.280 they're like they're a lower echelon of the system. 763 00:43:06.400 --> 00:43:13.480 Yes, they're initiates into something that Tuesday's family built exactly. 764 00:43:13.519 --> 00:43:17.760 That's right. She doesn't get burnt out and suicided or 765 00:43:17.960 --> 00:43:21.199 drug overdosed or car accident or like used up and 766 00:43:21.239 --> 00:43:25.159 burnt out. She's like, I'll get into it in a second. 767 00:43:25.199 --> 00:43:29.480 But it's like she's this diminutive little man though, right, 768 00:43:29.559 --> 00:43:32.280 we still see it's inconclusive. 769 00:43:33.119 --> 00:43:35.159 Let me see him. I just want to see you. 770 00:43:35.239 --> 00:43:37.199 Nick's gotta put Nick put a picture up there on 771 00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:41.280 the villa. 772 00:43:42.039 --> 00:43:43.480 Oh god, he's hideous. 773 00:43:44.159 --> 00:43:44.320 Right. 774 00:43:45.039 --> 00:43:46.800 No, if you're to watch him in like author, you'd 775 00:43:46.840 --> 00:43:49.599 be like, which I'm sure is really his personality, but 776 00:43:49.679 --> 00:43:50.039 you would be. 777 00:43:50.079 --> 00:43:55.119 Like, what the he must he must be a bloodliner, right, 778 00:43:55.199 --> 00:43:57.639 got a lot of money. He has to be. He 779 00:43:57.719 --> 00:43:59.599 has to be, because it's like, you don't get that 780 00:43:59.679 --> 00:44:02.760 high degree of a Tuesday Weld unless you're a bloodliner. 781 00:44:03.079 --> 00:44:06.599 Because they want thought. I always thought that, right, it's 782 00:44:06.599 --> 00:44:07.559 something weird, right. 783 00:44:07.920 --> 00:44:11.039 Yeah, because it's not like somebody with Tuesday Weld whoesdated 784 00:44:11.960 --> 00:44:15.159 Elvis is gonna end up marrying this guy in pro 785 00:44:15.239 --> 00:44:18.559 creating unless he's a bloodliner. She probably has a boyfriend 786 00:44:18.559 --> 00:44:19.239 on side. 787 00:44:20.079 --> 00:44:22.320 She was married to George F. Pard. Have you seen 788 00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:25.400 the eighteen carnival Hannibal Smith. I mean she went from 789 00:44:25.400 --> 00:44:26.639 Hannibal Smith to this guy. 790 00:44:27.480 --> 00:44:29.760 That's why, that's why it's got to be on purpose, 791 00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:34.000 because whatever genetics they have together is going to make 792 00:44:34.039 --> 00:44:36.719 the next you know, Tuesday. 793 00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:39.400 That makes as much sense as Jackson Wening. 794 00:44:43.440 --> 00:44:48.320 But you know, think think of the obsession that she 795 00:44:48.440 --> 00:44:50.800 had around her for her to end up with this guy, 796 00:44:50.880 --> 00:44:54.679 right because the Beatles sang about her, the Stones sang 797 00:44:54.719 --> 00:44:57.960 about her. That Beach Boys song is about her. She 798 00:44:58.119 --> 00:45:00.320 literally could have picked anybody she wanted. Elvi Us had 799 00:45:00.320 --> 00:45:04.960 a big crush on her, and she is said to 800 00:45:05.079 --> 00:45:08.599 be part of the influence behind the changes of the 801 00:45:08.639 --> 00:45:13.960 Beatles being like Bubblegummy to Lucy and the Sky with Diamonds, 802 00:45:14.079 --> 00:45:19.440 they say, like Tuesday somehow played a role in that transition. 803 00:45:20.440 --> 00:45:22.639 Sure, well, you'll see that in that Lord Love a 804 00:45:22.719 --> 00:45:25.159 Duck movie right in the very beginning of it, Roddy McDowell, 805 00:45:25.199 --> 00:45:27.280 the greaser guys getting beat up by the hippie guy 806 00:45:27.360 --> 00:45:30.639 right on the beach, and Tuesday, well, it's kind of like, 807 00:45:30.719 --> 00:45:32.880 you know, cheering it on there. So she's she has 808 00:45:32.920 --> 00:45:35.519 heard cheering on this movement of revolution of the sixties 809 00:45:35.519 --> 00:45:38.320 where they're inserting this this Hippi dumb and you know, 810 00:45:38.320 --> 00:45:41.280 the Laurel Canyon scene. They're they're going to be, you know, 811 00:45:41.719 --> 00:45:44.559 taking the Litl Cannes scene and inserting it across America, right, 812 00:45:44.599 --> 00:45:46.920 because that really started there. And you know when why 813 00:45:46.960 --> 00:45:50.159 folks think that that the sixties rock and roll started 814 00:45:50.199 --> 00:45:53.920 at the Monterey Music Festivals, because it's the Laurel Canyon 815 00:45:53.920 --> 00:45:55.679 folks all went up to the Monarray Music Festival as 816 00:45:55.719 --> 00:45:59.960 they're launching you know, they're launching it for marketing purposes, right, yeah. 817 00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:05.800 Yeah. And the song that the Stones wrote about her, 818 00:46:06.000 --> 00:46:11.119 Ruby Tuesday that everybody knows and they probably thought that 819 00:46:11.239 --> 00:46:16.079 it was the day of the week or something Ruby Tuesday, 820 00:46:16.719 --> 00:46:21.039 but it actually inspired me to look into a little 821 00:46:21.039 --> 00:46:26.039 bit further why they would have used that terminology. Have 822 00:46:26.159 --> 00:46:30.159 you ever read Fritz Springmyer, You guys either one heard. 823 00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:32.320 Blood Lines of the Illuminati. 824 00:46:32.400 --> 00:46:34.800 Yeah, something like that. I think he also has another 825 00:46:34.840 --> 00:46:43.280 one that where he so in Fritz Springmire's work, he 826 00:46:43.280 --> 00:46:46.239 he talks about there's levels and there's like a rank 827 00:46:46.360 --> 00:46:49.800 system in the Dark Occult. I don't know if it's 828 00:46:49.840 --> 00:46:54.639 specifically for SRA victims, but definitely for like programmed multiples, right, 829 00:46:54.719 --> 00:46:59.679 And there's like this rank system, and they're all different 830 00:46:59.719 --> 00:47:06.199 types gemstones, and so the diamond is like the presidential 831 00:47:06.880 --> 00:47:13.960 model whore, and the emerald is like psychic stuff. They're 832 00:47:14.079 --> 00:47:18.840 used for rituals. And then there's the ruby, which is 833 00:47:18.920 --> 00:47:22.400 related to the bloodline, which is like upper echelon. They're 834 00:47:22.440 --> 00:47:25.559 also used in rituals, but they're more like the high 835 00:47:25.599 --> 00:47:29.320 priestess level. And then there are pearls, which are like 836 00:47:29.519 --> 00:47:36.400 mind files. And so if you look at these program multiples, 837 00:47:36.519 --> 00:47:39.599 most of the time they're repping their gymstone. So like 838 00:47:39.719 --> 00:47:44.280 Marylyn is this diamond level. Diamonds are girl's best friend. 839 00:47:44.320 --> 00:47:48.360 Diamonds are forever. She pushed diamonds in the sixties. And 840 00:47:48.400 --> 00:47:52.800 then if you look, there's Ruby Tusday with the royal 841 00:47:52.880 --> 00:47:57.920 blood and if you really dive into John Benet Ramsey 842 00:47:58.599 --> 00:48:04.960 and how much they push the emerald symbology with her, 843 00:48:05.159 --> 00:48:07.639 and that's supposed to be like psychics that are used 844 00:48:07.639 --> 00:48:10.920 for rituals in this rank system. But there's this one 845 00:48:10.960 --> 00:48:15.280 picture that everybody always posts of John Benet where she's 846 00:48:15.480 --> 00:48:18.920 got her pinky finger up and she's wearing an emerald ring, 847 00:48:19.760 --> 00:48:24.360 and it's it's like, why so specifically that picture of 848 00:48:24.840 --> 00:48:27.519 John Beney like this wearing an emerald ring on her 849 00:48:27.559 --> 00:48:32.400 pinky And if you really look into these ranking systems, 850 00:48:32.440 --> 00:48:36.679 they're all gemstones and these women will rep like these 851 00:48:37.199 --> 00:48:41.559 the pearls, the rubies, diamonds, emeralds, whatever their ranking is. 852 00:48:42.199 --> 00:48:46.599 So I don't know how you guys feel about that, 853 00:48:46.719 --> 00:48:49.519 but I think that could be what the Ruby Tuesday 854 00:48:49.760 --> 00:48:50.239 is about. 855 00:48:50.800 --> 00:48:53.039 So you're saunds like a ranking of her ranking within 856 00:48:53.079 --> 00:48:53.599 the system. 857 00:48:54.199 --> 00:48:57.199 Yeah, because she's the ruby is like one of the 858 00:48:57.239 --> 00:49:01.199 most precious of the gemstones, and the ruby is red 859 00:49:01.239 --> 00:49:04.440 for the blood. It's like the Royal Blood, the High 860 00:49:04.440 --> 00:49:08.559 Priestess Ruby Tuesday. Because you would think it would be 861 00:49:08.599 --> 00:49:11.880 a diamond, right, but look what happened to Maryland. Diamonds 862 00:49:11.920 --> 00:49:16.760 are literally worthless in the end. Rubies are way more precious. 863 00:49:17.440 --> 00:49:21.280 And you know, it's like, if you look, you'll see 864 00:49:21.320 --> 00:49:24.239 these weird gemstones pop up with a lot of these lebs. 865 00:49:25.199 --> 00:49:27.880 And if it's true that she's like royal blood, which 866 00:49:27.920 --> 00:49:32.480 she is, and she's got the pedigree, it's very reminiscent 867 00:49:32.519 --> 00:49:36.000 to me of David Crosby, whose family all goes all 868 00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:39.159 the way back to the founding Fathers and shit, and 869 00:49:39.199 --> 00:49:41.639 I feel like he's always been protected. I mean, there's 870 00:49:41.679 --> 00:49:43.880 been multiple times he should have been arrested and thrown 871 00:49:43.920 --> 00:49:46.280 into prison and got himself into all kinds of a mess, 872 00:49:46.280 --> 00:49:49.599 and he just gets off with it. 873 00:49:49.519 --> 00:49:51.559 It sounds that I like to rest the processor, doesn't 874 00:49:51.599 --> 00:49:55.159 it Like Bob Cocaine Evans and John Fellows and the 875 00:49:55.199 --> 00:49:58.480 Mamas and the papas, these people skirting off on getting 876 00:49:58.519 --> 00:49:59.639 drug trafficking charges. 877 00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:05.400 Right, It's like there if you go back in the Crosby, Oh, 878 00:50:05.480 --> 00:50:08.440 Ruby Slippers. I love that they mentioned that because it's 879 00:50:08.599 --> 00:50:13.920 the movie The Wizard of Oz I've covered it before. 880 00:50:14.039 --> 00:50:17.679 It's very occulted, and it's got so many mentions to 881 00:50:17.760 --> 00:50:20.880 magic in there. And you've got the ruby slippers for Dorothy. 882 00:50:22.239 --> 00:50:25.599 Oh one thing I do and real quick too. About 883 00:50:25.599 --> 00:50:26.119 the ruby. 884 00:50:26.199 --> 00:50:28.039 I don't know if this has anything to do with it, 885 00:50:28.079 --> 00:50:29.920 but I could see it being almost a symbol of 886 00:50:30.159 --> 00:50:33.480 alchemy most of the time. People probably don't know this, 887 00:50:33.719 --> 00:50:35.840 and I heard this from somebody else, so it wasn't like, 888 00:50:35.880 --> 00:50:38.519 you know, I figured this out on my own. Most 889 00:50:38.599 --> 00:50:40.199 rubies you would find it. It would look like a. 890 00:50:40.119 --> 00:50:42.079 Stone until you apply heat to it, and then it 891 00:50:42.159 --> 00:50:44.840 turns into what you would normally see is the red. 892 00:50:45.400 --> 00:50:46.800 So you even do actually. 893 00:50:46.599 --> 00:50:48.400 Have to apply heat to this thing to get it 894 00:50:48.440 --> 00:50:51.000 to turn into the ruby. So it's kind of a 895 00:50:51.119 --> 00:50:51.920 chemical in the self. 896 00:50:53.719 --> 00:50:59.960 Well, they say that because Tuesday started developing psychic ability 897 00:51:00.199 --> 00:51:04.039 when she was really young and clairvoyant abilities that they 898 00:51:04.079 --> 00:51:06.840 almost had to like not blood her in, but they 899 00:51:07.800 --> 00:51:13.519 had to traumatize her in a way that would amplify 900 00:51:14.239 --> 00:51:17.519 I guess, her abilities. So that also goes along with 901 00:51:17.559 --> 00:51:20.400 the ruby. It's like they had a heater up a 902 00:51:20.440 --> 00:51:23.480 little bit to turn her into what she became, and 903 00:51:23.519 --> 00:51:27.559 then they protected her her entire life, you know, very 904 00:51:27.599 --> 00:51:30.719 reminiscent to me of David Crosby, because he also like 905 00:51:31.119 --> 00:51:35.320 he's got like founding fathers, signers of the Declaration of Independence, 906 00:51:35.599 --> 00:51:39.280 you know, civil War generals. I mean, his family tree 907 00:51:39.360 --> 00:51:40.840 goes all the fucking way back. 908 00:51:41.639 --> 00:51:44.159 Well, they're the New York chapter of the Society. He's 909 00:51:44.199 --> 00:51:47.400 a Van Cortland shooler, I believe, right. 910 00:51:47.840 --> 00:51:51.960 Yeah, Well, you know that song that the Little sang, 911 00:51:52.079 --> 00:51:54.519 that song, and it's like Tuesdays on the phone to me, 912 00:51:55.079 --> 00:51:59.559 they say in the song song. Yes, they say Tuesdays 913 00:51:59.559 --> 00:52:02.079 on the phone to me. If you go back and 914 00:52:02.119 --> 00:52:05.199 you find out what that story is, Tuesday was calling 915 00:52:05.239 --> 00:52:12.679 them from David Crosby's house. Oh so it's like when 916 00:52:12.719 --> 00:52:14.360 you look at these guys, it's like, of course they 917 00:52:14.440 --> 00:52:19.000 hang out. Of course they they're besties, you know, right, right, 918 00:52:19.559 --> 00:52:23.360 Tuesdays over at David Crosby's house, just casually calling the Beatles, 919 00:52:23.400 --> 00:52:25.360 and they feel like it's so significant they got to 920 00:52:25.360 --> 00:52:26.159 put it in a song. 921 00:52:27.639 --> 00:52:29.559 Oh for sure. There's lots of other songs too, right, 922 00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:33.199 I mean, just besides the Beatles, the in the you know, 923 00:52:33.280 --> 00:52:35.559 in the Stones. But what do you think so what 924 00:52:35.559 --> 00:52:38.159 do you think this wasn't her as far as you know, 925 00:52:38.159 --> 00:52:40.719 protecting or sting out of the limelight, Like do you 926 00:52:40.719 --> 00:52:43.440 think that was her decision? Like she's quoted in seventy 927 00:52:43.480 --> 00:52:45.840 one and the New York Times saying like, for example, 928 00:52:45.920 --> 00:52:49.079 she didn't take the role for Rosemary's Baby, right, she 929 00:52:49.199 --> 00:52:51.599 declined the role. So do you think that's her decline 930 00:52:51.599 --> 00:52:53.239 the role? Do you think there's somebody like west bring 931 00:52:53.239 --> 00:52:54.800 in her ear like you should not be doing, you know, 932 00:52:55.119 --> 00:52:57.679 you do not need to go star in cocaine? Bob Evans, 933 00:52:58.199 --> 00:53:02.119 Roan Planski's processed Church Satan shit you know, shit storm here. 934 00:53:02.719 --> 00:53:05.599 I told her that, or she's making on her own call. 935 00:53:05.960 --> 00:53:07.679 I don't well, I don't think she's making any of 936 00:53:07.679 --> 00:53:10.920 her own decisions because she's been like kind of guided 937 00:53:10.960 --> 00:53:14.079 since she was aged twelve with Alfred Hitchcock and stuff. 938 00:53:14.119 --> 00:53:18.000 But right, this is what I'll say, because the dedication 939 00:53:18.199 --> 00:53:22.559 in Anton LaVey's Satanic Bible is like everyone would know 940 00:53:22.599 --> 00:53:25.800 who that is, who Tuesday is if they saw that, right, 941 00:53:25.840 --> 00:53:29.119 because he also mentions Marilyn Monroe and Jane Mansfield. But 942 00:53:30.119 --> 00:53:33.519 there is some other quotes from Anton Levey where he 943 00:53:33.599 --> 00:53:37.320 says He refers to her looks several times and how 944 00:53:37.360 --> 00:53:41.000 beautiful she is. He also refers to her witchery as 945 00:53:41.159 --> 00:53:45.400 he says, and he basically describes her as like the 946 00:53:45.440 --> 00:53:48.880 heart of the ocean jewel, like she's so special and 947 00:53:48.920 --> 00:53:54.239 she's so amazing and elite if you will. But he 948 00:53:54.280 --> 00:53:57.840 also alluded to the fact that Tuesday will never be 949 00:53:57.920 --> 00:54:01.000 in the spotlight because she's serving greater purpose. 950 00:54:01.679 --> 00:54:06.039 As from that's from popular witchcraft, Straight from the Witch's mouth, 951 00:54:06.239 --> 00:54:09.880 an interview with high priest ants on lavay. You found 952 00:54:09.880 --> 00:54:12.480 it nineteen seventy two, and this is a says two 953 00:54:12.480 --> 00:54:13.760 thousand and five. That's a reprint. 954 00:54:14.440 --> 00:54:17.280 There you go, right there. He literally says, you know, 955 00:54:17.360 --> 00:54:19.760 Tuesday will never be big, she will never be in 956 00:54:19.800 --> 00:54:22.800 the spotlight because she's so smart and she's serving this 957 00:54:22.840 --> 00:54:26.119 greater purpose. And the greater purpose has nothing to do 958 00:54:26.159 --> 00:54:27.360 with how famous she is. 959 00:54:27.920 --> 00:54:31.079 Yeah, and in comparison to Mansfield and Monroe, he says, well, 960 00:54:31.119 --> 00:54:31.639 Tuesday is. 961 00:54:31.639 --> 00:54:36.920 Part of the rituals, right, Yeah, like Tuesdays like the 962 00:54:37.039 --> 00:54:40.000 upper echelon, where like all these other bitches are like 963 00:54:40.119 --> 00:54:43.320 fodder for the cannon, right, like it's just right, you know, 964 00:54:43.480 --> 00:54:45.480 throw another Jane Mansfield out there. 965 00:54:45.599 --> 00:54:50.199 Let's get Marilyn Monroe fucked up. And you know, it's 966 00:54:50.320 --> 00:54:53.960 just I don't know. She this this whole thing about 967 00:54:54.000 --> 00:54:57.920 her being involved in rituals and like obviously the Anton 968 00:54:58.000 --> 00:55:00.320 LaVey stuff, and she never did make it big. But 969 00:55:00.400 --> 00:55:05.519 yet she knows everyone and is traveling with the Circles. 970 00:55:06.440 --> 00:55:11.119 And Hope, Steve McQueen, Elvis Presley, James Cohn, you know 971 00:55:11.320 --> 00:55:16.719 Al Pacino, Cocaine Bob's friends, like Cocaine Bob's friends, Robert 972 00:55:16.719 --> 00:55:19.159 de Niro, you know these are all her co stars 973 00:55:19.159 --> 00:55:19.920 and films. 974 00:55:19.679 --> 00:55:23.880 Right, Yeah, And I guess she's known to show up 975 00:55:24.920 --> 00:55:33.079 to like some of these Hollywood events with like two 976 00:55:33.280 --> 00:55:38.440 giant white wolves with her and stuff like that. Yeah, 977 00:55:38.599 --> 00:55:41.159 it's like, oh Tuesdays here and she's got these two big, 978 00:55:41.199 --> 00:55:44.599 giant white wolves at both of her sides, and it's like, Okay, 979 00:55:44.639 --> 00:55:48.280 here comes the priestess, here comes the Biggie, the big witch, 980 00:55:49.239 --> 00:55:53.719 and everybody like Revere's sir, Oh Tuesday with her white wolves, 981 00:55:53.800 --> 00:55:56.280 and shit, you know, she's she's a force to be 982 00:55:56.360 --> 00:55:56.960 reckoned with. 983 00:56:02.199 --> 00:56:05.599 That's pretty wild. Yeah, I know, places with some wolves. 984 00:56:06.920 --> 00:56:10.960 But the thing is is, like I said before, she 985 00:56:11.079 --> 00:56:14.639 knows everyone. She was in Hollywood for a little bit, 986 00:56:14.679 --> 00:56:16.519 but not to the point where she got burnt out 987 00:56:16.519 --> 00:56:19.960 and thrown away like some of the bigger ones. She's 988 00:56:19.960 --> 00:56:24.039 definitely part of the counterculture scene. She's got songs written 989 00:56:24.079 --> 00:56:27.039 about her. She knows the Beatles, the Stones. Imagine, like, 990 00:56:27.079 --> 00:56:29.239 how many people can you say that were even in 991 00:56:29.320 --> 00:56:32.039 the Laurel Canyon that could say, oh, the Beatles, the 992 00:56:32.079 --> 00:56:35.079 Beach Boys, the Stones. They all wrote songs about me, 993 00:56:35.159 --> 00:56:37.480 but nobody knows who I am. 994 00:56:37.480 --> 00:56:42.920 Exactly, exactly. Yeah, she's easily the most influential person in 995 00:56:42.920 --> 00:56:46.400 the entire scene music, movies, you know, the whole social 996 00:56:46.400 --> 00:56:49.760 aspect of it. And according to some folks. So when 997 00:56:49.760 --> 00:56:52.960 I asked earlier, how you summark across, Well, whenever I 998 00:56:53.000 --> 00:56:55.559 do find people that have interested themselves in the life 999 00:56:55.559 --> 00:56:57.920 of Tuesday world and I'm just trying to understand it. 1000 00:56:57.960 --> 00:57:00.719 I asked that question because I came across it in 1001 00:57:01.000 --> 00:57:04.440 two ways really, So my initial interest was I'd read 1002 00:57:04.480 --> 00:57:06.840 the works of Adam go Rightley and his series that 1003 00:57:06.880 --> 00:57:10.159 he printed years ago, and did a couple of podcast 1004 00:57:10.159 --> 00:57:11.719 interviews with a guy I want to sit around two 1005 00:57:11.719 --> 00:57:13.880 thousand and nine. I think he wrote the series in 1006 00:57:13.880 --> 00:57:17.199 two thousand and seven and Noia magazine or something like that. 1007 00:57:17.840 --> 00:57:19.920 I think he's reprinted it in books since then, but 1008 00:57:19.960 --> 00:57:23.280 that was the original source. He interviews a guy. Are 1009 00:57:23.320 --> 00:57:25.719 you familiar with the guy I'm talking about? Where the 1010 00:57:25.800 --> 00:57:28.519 stories come from? This his source in this in this series, 1011 00:57:28.559 --> 00:57:33.519 a fellow by the name of escape me Jeff Turner. 1012 00:57:34.239 --> 00:57:36.320 Ooh, now, what's this? 1013 00:57:37.599 --> 00:57:41.679 Jeff Turner? I believe he's still love. He's an extremely ausistic, 1014 00:57:41.679 --> 00:57:44.559 severe autistic man who works in a soup kitchen. I 1015 00:57:44.599 --> 00:57:48.960 believe in San Jose, California. He claims have known Tuesday 1016 00:57:49.000 --> 00:57:52.400 Weld for a very long time, since he was a youngster. 1017 00:57:53.239 --> 00:57:56.400 He claims Tuesday Weld got him involved with spying on 1018 00:57:56.400 --> 00:57:59.920 one of her underlings that had decided to leave her 1019 00:58:00.280 --> 00:58:03.000 guys and go take over what this man described as 1020 00:58:03.039 --> 00:58:06.320 the Processed Church of the Final Judgment. That lady's name 1021 00:58:06.400 --> 00:58:09.760 was Christy McManus. This is all stuff that's been published. 1022 00:58:09.960 --> 00:58:12.280 She's still alive. She's still alive. She's running some ocult 1023 00:58:12.320 --> 00:58:15.760 stuff in Vegas. Last time I looked. So that's what 1024 00:58:15.760 --> 00:58:17.360 I'm saying when I say last time I looked, I 1025 00:58:17.360 --> 00:58:19.239 I looked at some of the details of this guy, 1026 00:58:19.320 --> 00:58:21.480 and some of these details do check out. This Christy 1027 00:58:21.559 --> 00:58:24.800 McManus is definitely involved in the occult. Whether or not 1028 00:58:24.840 --> 00:58:26.960 she was Tuesday, well, it's underling. I couldn't tell you. 1029 00:58:27.039 --> 00:58:30.159 But nonetheless, this fella doesn't seem to be spending the yarns. 1030 00:58:30.199 --> 00:58:32.320 In large part of you asking me, there's some I'm 1031 00:58:32.320 --> 00:58:34.079 not willing to throw the baby out with the with 1032 00:58:34.199 --> 00:58:35.599 the bathtub, you know what I mean, just because the. 1033 00:58:35.559 --> 00:58:40.800 Guys, that's that's like oddly specific for it now to 1034 00:58:42.360 --> 00:58:44.360 stay weld like literally, why. 1035 00:58:44.159 --> 00:58:48.079 Would no one knows exactly, no one knows he is right. 1036 00:58:48.119 --> 00:58:50.960 So this dude as this whole story go rightly, I 1037 00:58:50.960 --> 00:58:54.440 believe his sense concluded after years later that he's he's 1038 00:58:54.599 --> 00:58:56.800 he's kind of just moved away from this, this whole 1039 00:58:56.880 --> 00:58:59.400 narrative and stuff. You don't think he has anybody my understanding. 1040 00:58:59.480 --> 00:59:01.800 He no longer has any buying into it. But you 1041 00:59:01.840 --> 00:59:04.000 know what a Discordian thing to do if you ask me, 1042 00:59:04.400 --> 00:59:08.199 m because he's like the chief Discordian. 1043 00:59:09.159 --> 00:59:12.119 Well, and the fact that she's still alive and could 1044 00:59:12.119 --> 00:59:14.360 dispute that if she found out about it. 1045 00:59:14.559 --> 00:59:18.239 But oh yeah, I think she's ever commented, right, I 1046 00:59:18.239 --> 00:59:21.360 don't think she ever coming. Well, this dude was allegedly 1047 00:59:21.400 --> 00:59:24.400 spying on this network of this Tuesday Well's underlings in 1048 00:59:24.400 --> 00:59:26.400 the eighties out of San Jose and then would later 1049 00:59:26.440 --> 00:59:29.719 describe these activities to Adam go rightly relative to this 1050 00:59:30.119 --> 00:59:33.800 Charles Manson cult. So, according to this dude, Tuesday Weld 1051 00:59:34.480 --> 00:59:36.559 was calling all the shots in the Manson murder like 1052 00:59:36.639 --> 00:59:38.559 she was at that level of the situation. 1053 00:59:39.000 --> 00:59:39.119 Up. 1054 00:59:39.880 --> 00:59:44.480 Yeah, that's that's this dude's statements, Jeff Turner's statements. Now again, 1055 00:59:44.599 --> 00:59:47.639 I will offer this disclaimer. Jeff Turner, they made him. 1056 00:59:47.639 --> 00:59:49.960 I don't think he's nearly his looney tunes. I highly 1057 00:59:50.000 --> 00:59:52.480 doubt he's nearly these luney tunes. These two filmmakers made 1058 00:59:52.519 --> 00:59:54.599 him out to be. But I think it was intentional. 1059 00:59:54.920 --> 00:59:57.159 So after he told these stories to go rightly and 1060 00:59:57.199 --> 01:00:00.360 go rightly published him, two film students night to film 1061 01:00:00.440 --> 01:00:02.840 students from NYU show up in San Jose, California. I 1062 01:00:02.840 --> 01:00:04.800 think is how the story goes, and they want to 1063 01:00:04.800 --> 01:00:07.679 film a documentary about the man Will. They turned that 1064 01:00:07.679 --> 01:00:11.920 that documentary into Jeff Turner's obsession with the singer Tiffany, 1065 01:00:13.639 --> 01:00:16.719 and he was arrested. Yeah, he was arrested outside somewhere 1066 01:00:17.159 --> 01:00:19.599 in the eighties with a samurai sword. He was trying 1067 01:00:19.599 --> 01:00:23.079 to give the Tiffany. So you know, there is there's 1068 01:00:23.119 --> 01:00:24.599 obviously a bit of a narrative there. 1069 01:00:25.199 --> 01:00:26.159 Why Tiffany. 1070 01:00:27.239 --> 01:00:29.599 He's got a whole separate story where Tiffany runs a 1071 01:00:29.599 --> 01:00:31.480 different faction opposite Tuesday. 1072 01:00:31.559 --> 01:00:39.079 Oh my god, stop it, stop it. 1073 01:00:38.519 --> 01:00:41.199 Her Tiffany's assistant. And again, I'm not trying to discredit 1074 01:00:41.239 --> 01:00:42.960 the guy's story because again, some of the stuff cond 1075 01:00:42.960 --> 01:00:45.199 of checks out over the years. Right, this is something 1076 01:00:45.199 --> 01:00:47.360 he said back in like two thousand and seven. Tiffany's 1077 01:00:47.400 --> 01:00:52.840 assistant in that opposing faction to Tuesday Wild was Alyssa Milano. 1078 01:00:52.960 --> 01:00:55.480 Think about how many occult films A Lissa Milano has done. 1079 01:00:55.639 --> 01:00:58.599 Think about how much weird political stuff she's inserted herself 1080 01:00:58.599 --> 01:00:59.599 into in recent years. 1081 01:01:00.840 --> 01:01:03.760 Oh my god. And all these people are still alive 1082 01:01:03.880 --> 01:01:09.760 and could very easily like dispute these things, and they're 1083 01:01:09.800 --> 01:01:10.920 not saying a peep. 1084 01:01:11.679 --> 01:01:14.760 Yeah, So these filmmakers turned Jeff Turner into complete looney 1085 01:01:14.800 --> 01:01:17.639 to him, I putting him into a film about stalkers 1086 01:01:17.679 --> 01:01:20.840 of Tiffany. Right, Well, he was clearly a stalker of Tiffany. 1087 01:01:21.119 --> 01:01:22.800 He wasn't so much a fan of her music. He 1088 01:01:22.880 --> 01:01:24.679 was part he was trying to he had some whole 1089 01:01:24.679 --> 01:01:26.880 thing where he's obsessed with this whole he's familiar with 1090 01:01:26.880 --> 01:01:28.719 this whole cult network, right, you know what I mean. So, 1091 01:01:29.159 --> 01:01:31.920 but they really framed it in I think a very 1092 01:01:32.159 --> 01:01:35.480 weird light with these filmmakers and this this documentary. So 1093 01:01:35.840 --> 01:01:37.760 this documentary was pretty big. So if anyone had any 1094 01:01:37.760 --> 01:01:40.400 dispute about these subjects, like you're saying there was, they 1095 01:01:40.440 --> 01:01:41.880 had opportunities to dispute. 1096 01:01:43.159 --> 01:01:48.559 Well, listen, it's just funny you say this because somebody 1097 01:01:48.559 --> 01:01:50.960 who came up before we started recording. I guess I'll 1098 01:01:51.000 --> 01:01:53.400 just sut it out there since Tiffany came up. 1099 01:01:53.280 --> 01:01:59.039 But I haven't heard that name in a while, righty, Right, Well, So. 1100 01:02:00.599 --> 01:02:03.719 My brother is a musician and he has the same 1101 01:02:03.760 --> 01:02:07.239 manager as Marilyn Manson and Nine Inch Nails, and he 1102 01:02:07.360 --> 01:02:12.239 has been able to meet Marilyn Manson and Tiffany and 1103 01:02:12.599 --> 01:02:19.400 some of these bigger people and huhuh, yeah, he hung 1104 01:02:19.440 --> 01:02:24.159 out with Tiffany. But no, so he's he's like asked 1105 01:02:24.280 --> 01:02:27.679 Marilyn Manson like questions and he calls him Brian and shit, 1106 01:02:28.280 --> 01:02:33.280 and like apparently, uh, I don't know his last name. 1107 01:02:33.400 --> 01:02:39.320 My brother always just says Brian, but he I guess 1108 01:02:39.519 --> 01:02:42.920 Brian told him this story about like Hunter S. Thompson 1109 01:02:43.239 --> 01:02:47.400 and Johnny Depp and like all this weird stuff. And 1110 01:02:47.719 --> 01:02:51.239 he was wearing these sunglasses that belonged to Hunter S. 1111 01:02:51.280 --> 01:02:53.079 Thompson and he took them off and he like gave 1112 01:02:53.119 --> 01:02:55.960 him to my brother and just let him wear him 1113 01:02:56.000 --> 01:02:59.559 around for a while or whatever. But anyways, he said 1114 01:02:59.599 --> 01:03:03.360 that like Marilyn Manson and Tiffany and they all hang 1115 01:03:03.400 --> 01:03:06.800 out together well, and like they all meet up at 1116 01:03:06.840 --> 01:03:09.559 the same clubs and play together and stuff. 1117 01:03:09.639 --> 01:03:12.880 Yeah, what you're describing to me is more details confirming 1118 01:03:12.920 --> 01:03:14.159 the tales of Jeff Turner. 1119 01:03:14.400 --> 01:03:16.400 That's why I brought it up, is because I have 1120 01:03:16.760 --> 01:03:21.880 never heard Tiffany ever besides my brother say that those 1121 01:03:21.920 --> 01:03:23.639 two were connected. 1122 01:03:24.599 --> 01:03:25.480 With him too. 1123 01:03:27.360 --> 01:03:32.719 With Hunter S. Thompson, No, with uh Maryland, Yeah, oh 1124 01:03:33.039 --> 01:03:39.199 I did not know that. Yeah, those pictures, Well, Hunter 1125 01:03:39.280 --> 01:03:41.320 Thompson makes sense to me. He strikes me as an 1126 01:03:41.320 --> 01:03:44.559 og processed guy, like his connections with Depp, their friendship 1127 01:03:44.599 --> 01:03:46.840 over the years, and we're Manson for that matter, makes 1128 01:03:46.880 --> 01:03:49.400 sense because Hunter S. Thompson was doing security at the 1129 01:03:49.440 --> 01:03:54.239 Eslam Institute when they were constructing the place. He was Yeah, 1130 01:03:54.360 --> 01:03:55.840 he was living, he was living on the grounds. He 1131 01:03:55.960 --> 01:03:57.440 chasing people off with his forty five. 1132 01:03:58.039 --> 01:04:00.840 Dude, there's so much stuff about him. You ever heard 1133 01:04:00.840 --> 01:04:03.199 that he like fucked his cat and stuff like that. 1134 01:04:03.920 --> 01:04:05.360 Not shocked, not shocked. 1135 01:04:05.880 --> 01:04:08.800 Yeah, Well, you know the reason I bring it up 1136 01:04:08.800 --> 01:04:12.320 to is because like Marilyn Manson, right, it's Marilyn Monroe 1137 01:04:12.440 --> 01:04:16.519 and Charles Manson yeah together, right, and those are two 1138 01:04:16.559 --> 01:04:20.239 people we just got done talking about. And so he's 1139 01:04:20.320 --> 01:04:24.840 traveling in these circles with I guess process people like Tiffany, right, 1140 01:04:24.960 --> 01:04:28.440 and somehow Tuesday welles in there too, Like, dude, that 1141 01:04:28.480 --> 01:04:31.360 blows my mind that she even came up. And I 1142 01:04:32.000 --> 01:04:34.480 literally have never told that story to anybody before. 1143 01:04:35.119 --> 01:04:35.719 That's awesome. 1144 01:04:35.960 --> 01:04:40.039 Tiffany electronic music stuff. 1145 01:04:40.840 --> 01:04:42.159 She was that mall pop singer. 1146 01:04:42.440 --> 01:04:44.239 I'm just wondering if the style of music was even 1147 01:04:44.280 --> 01:04:46.480 processed church people, because remember they were big into lot 1148 01:04:46.639 --> 01:04:49.320 and shit doesn't always have to sound like industrial, you 1149 01:04:49.320 --> 01:04:49.840 know what I'm saying? 1150 01:04:51.760 --> 01:04:55.440 That eighties kind of electrical rock, right or whatever. Yeah, 1151 01:04:55.639 --> 01:04:57.559 Like you didn't have a band or whatever. She just 1152 01:04:57.599 --> 01:04:59.519 sang with some music, right, yeah. 1153 01:04:59.559 --> 01:05:02.639 I mean, you know, I'm sure you know a Tiffany song. 1154 01:05:02.760 --> 01:05:06.840 Nick, I know, I know is for sure. I just 1155 01:05:06.840 --> 01:05:07.320 can't think of it. 1156 01:05:07.519 --> 01:05:09.840 I was going to say everybody, everybody knows, like I 1157 01:05:09.880 --> 01:05:11.719 think we're alone now yeah. 1158 01:05:11.760 --> 01:05:13.760 Yeah, I'm just trying to remember the actual music if 1159 01:05:13.800 --> 01:05:16.000 it was like digital, like you know, it was electronic 1160 01:05:16.079 --> 01:05:17.320 or was it like actual instruments. 1161 01:05:17.320 --> 01:05:20.000 It was like, I can't remember everything else that came 1162 01:05:20.039 --> 01:05:25.159 out sound Yeah, I mean, how do you even describe 1163 01:05:25.199 --> 01:05:29.840 as like electronic? Kind of weird? 1164 01:05:30.880 --> 01:05:36.840 Yeah, but yeah, no, I mean, damn, Tiffany that big, 1165 01:05:37.039 --> 01:05:44.280 that right, Oh my goodness. 1166 01:05:44.559 --> 01:05:47.760 I can't believe you had a story about Tiffany relative 1167 01:05:47.760 --> 01:05:48.960 to the process. That's fantastic. 1168 01:05:49.440 --> 01:05:52.039 Well, I just had never heard anybody to make that 1169 01:05:52.079 --> 01:05:54.519 connection before. And you know, sometimes I get stories from 1170 01:05:54.519 --> 01:05:56.440 my brother and I'm like, oh, yeah, that's really cool, 1171 01:05:56.440 --> 01:05:58.199 But I don't know how to put the pieces together. 1172 01:05:58.320 --> 01:06:01.440 I mean, sure, man since said stuff about Depp, and 1173 01:06:01.480 --> 01:06:03.840 he said stuff about Hunter s Thompson and stuff, but 1174 01:06:03.880 --> 01:06:06.320 then he mentioned this Tiffany and I was like, well, 1175 01:06:06.400 --> 01:06:08.639 what did she have one fucking song in the eighties 1176 01:06:08.679 --> 01:06:11.960 that everybody knows like who is this who is this girl? Anyways? 1177 01:06:12.000 --> 01:06:14.880 And oh my god, now it it makes sense. 1178 01:06:16.239 --> 01:06:20.280 So according to Jeff Turner, she's born she's also of 1179 01:06:20.400 --> 01:06:25.039 some some like Lebes I believe Lebanese heritage where she's 1180 01:06:25.039 --> 01:06:29.159 like some sort of Sufi high priestess much like Tuesday 1181 01:06:29.159 --> 01:06:31.840 Well was born into Celtic hi priestess. The way he 1182 01:06:31.880 --> 01:06:33.679 explains it is like she was born to a Sufi 1183 01:06:33.760 --> 01:06:34.639 high priestess role. 1184 01:06:35.400 --> 01:06:37.480 And what is this guy's name, Jeff Turner. 1185 01:06:37.920 --> 01:06:39.920 Yeah, I'll be happy to introduce you in the folks 1186 01:06:39.920 --> 01:06:41.079 of the interwebs to Jeff Turner. 1187 01:06:41.119 --> 01:06:43.199 Here, somebody's asking about Debbie Gibson. 1188 01:06:43.199 --> 01:06:47.400 Now let me let me let me find uh, let 1189 01:06:47.440 --> 01:06:51.239 me find the actual trailer Traylor. I mean you look up, 1190 01:06:51.320 --> 01:06:53.199 you can look up his videos. Here's a whacky dude. 1191 01:06:53.199 --> 01:06:56.719 I'm just saying some of his Uh, somebody asked about Blondie. 1192 01:07:02.239 --> 01:07:05.400 Wasn't that Blondie Debbie Gibson? 1193 01:07:06.280 --> 01:07:10.199 Mm hmm, wasn't that her name? Oh no, I'm gonna 1194 01:07:10.239 --> 01:07:10.679 google it. 1195 01:07:10.800 --> 01:07:13.280 I Don'tbbie Gibson was a difference there, right? 1196 01:07:13.880 --> 01:07:16.079 Oh was it? What's what was Blondie's name? 1197 01:07:18.559 --> 01:07:21.679 Why can't I find the actual trailer to this documentary. 1198 01:07:22.360 --> 01:07:29.199 Oh, Blondie's real name was Angela nevermind fuck me? Oh no, 1199 01:07:29.440 --> 01:07:36.079 Debbie Debbie Harry was born Angela Tremble and then became Blondie. 1200 01:07:36.119 --> 01:07:43.760 So her name is Debbie Harry. 1201 01:07:44.400 --> 01:07:46.280 Look if you want to pop that on screen on interditional, 1202 01:07:46.440 --> 01:07:49.440 Jeff Turner like, this guy looks great. 1203 01:07:49.880 --> 01:07:54.719 Known each other most of her life, and known each 1204 01:07:54.719 --> 01:07:58.079 other most of her life, and we are in love 1205 01:07:58.119 --> 01:08:00.800 with each other, and she's a great the. 1206 01:08:01.159 --> 01:08:04.840 Difference between me. So that's the other stalker they put 1207 01:08:04.880 --> 01:08:08.880 in the film this. Uh, I don't tranest. Yeah, I 1208 01:08:08.880 --> 01:08:10.800 think it was actually a hermaphrodite. I think it actually 1209 01:08:10.800 --> 01:08:13.599 did have think if I recall correctly from watching this 1210 01:08:13.679 --> 01:08:17.640 documentary years ago, they described it as having multiple sex 1211 01:08:17.800 --> 01:08:20.079 organs of some sort because at some point in time 1212 01:08:20.079 --> 01:08:22.600 the autistic fella makes fun of fun of it. For 1213 01:08:22.720 --> 01:08:24.840 that or whatever, it becomes a thing. 1214 01:08:25.680 --> 01:08:28.640 So can I just say before you hit play again 1215 01:08:28.800 --> 01:08:32.279 that this person on screen, if you can't see, looks 1216 01:08:32.319 --> 01:08:37.720 like Annie Lennox and Marilyn Manson mixed together. It's like the. 1217 01:08:37.479 --> 01:08:43.840 Same you're on. They claim they were making the documentary 1218 01:08:43.840 --> 01:08:46.239 about Turner, and they made it more about this character. 1219 01:08:46.279 --> 01:08:47.239 That's why I didn't know. 1220 01:08:49.640 --> 01:08:51.880 I mean they they've already done a great job making 1221 01:08:51.960 --> 01:08:54.319 him look crazy, right, they give. 1222 01:08:54.239 --> 01:08:56.039 Them you know, they don't really even introduce him. He's 1223 01:08:56.039 --> 01:08:57.680 just like, oh, I love Tiffany, and then they show 1224 01:08:57.680 --> 01:08:58.680 you this character. 1225 01:09:01.399 --> 01:09:05.560 And they don't truly love love the individual. 1226 01:09:06.359 --> 01:09:08.239 As a sixteen year old, she was forced to get 1227 01:09:08.239 --> 01:09:10.439 a restraining order against Jeff Dean Turner. 1228 01:09:10.720 --> 01:09:13.680 My whole name in there is I don't think you 1229 01:09:13.760 --> 01:09:15.560 might need a six some of counseling. 1230 01:09:16.199 --> 01:09:19.279 I might ask nothing like a stalker to laugh about 1231 01:09:19.279 --> 01:09:20.640 the court. 1232 01:09:20.720 --> 01:09:26.279 My god, But I mean, don't autistic people. It's like 1233 01:09:26.319 --> 01:09:28.920 they just say whatever they know, like they have no 1234 01:09:29.039 --> 01:09:31.199 reason to like make stuff up. 1235 01:09:32.079 --> 01:09:33.960 That's what I'm saying. This dud's clearly got altism, and 1236 01:09:33.960 --> 01:09:35.119 you have to understand that what I'm saying, I'm not 1237 01:09:35.119 --> 01:09:36.520 willing to throw the baby out with the bats up 1238 01:09:36.520 --> 01:09:38.840 because the stuff he says about Tuesday Weld and even 1239 01:09:38.880 --> 01:09:41.079 some of the stuff he says about Tiffany checks out 1240 01:09:41.479 --> 01:09:43.520 she is from this weird family. Right. 1241 01:09:43.600 --> 01:09:47.439 Well, so this is this is kind of on point 1242 01:09:47.479 --> 01:09:50.560 and kind of off point, but have you guys watched 1243 01:09:50.760 --> 01:09:53.560 like Love the Spectrum on Netflix? 1244 01:09:55.239 --> 01:09:57.880 You have, yeah? Or twice? Yes? 1245 01:09:58.760 --> 01:10:02.600 Okay, So I really was unfamiliar with how autistic people 1246 01:10:02.680 --> 01:10:03.640 could be until I. 1247 01:10:03.600 --> 01:10:06.159 Watched that show. And they don't. They don't. 1248 01:10:06.239 --> 01:10:09.319 They're not big into lying. They will literally tell you 1249 01:10:09.439 --> 01:10:12.359 all about your fucking self and like they'll be like, 1250 01:10:12.399 --> 01:10:15.119 I don't even I don't want to go, you know, right, 1251 01:10:15.800 --> 01:10:17.279 I go on a date with you. 1252 01:10:17.359 --> 01:10:22.520 Right. They'll say some off the wall shit that is 1253 01:10:22.560 --> 01:10:26.279 absolutely accurate and honest, but it's not exactly socially appropriate. 1254 01:10:27.000 --> 01:10:29.239 So that's what I'm saying, is like, yeah, okay, this 1255 01:10:29.279 --> 01:10:32.000 guy's autistic, whatever you want to say about him. He's 1256 01:10:32.039 --> 01:10:35.479 got a weird obsession with Tiffany, which, by the way, 1257 01:10:35.479 --> 01:10:37.279 I'm starting to figure out a lot of people with 1258 01:10:37.319 --> 01:10:42.159 autism fixate on things that are just like weird obsessions about, 1259 01:10:42.159 --> 01:10:45.960 like dinosaurs and like Star Wars or whatever. 1260 01:10:46.960 --> 01:10:49.279 His weird obsession with Tuesday World. So he would go 1261 01:10:49.319 --> 01:10:51.600 to the Many, he would go to the set of 1262 01:10:51.640 --> 01:10:53.840 The Many Lives of Debbie Gillis, much like he was stalking, 1263 01:10:54.520 --> 01:10:56.800 you know, Tiffany as an adult. As a young child, 1264 01:10:56.880 --> 01:10:58.920 his parents were taking him to go see Tuesday Wild. 1265 01:10:59.520 --> 01:11:02.720 See. That's what I'm saying is they developed these strange 1266 01:11:02.920 --> 01:11:06.319 interests and they like involved themselves with it, but not 1267 01:11:06.399 --> 01:11:11.479 to the degree of like fabricating stuff, right, they just 1268 01:11:11.520 --> 01:11:17.640 because right right, I think, I think, you know, they 1269 01:11:17.680 --> 01:11:20.000 get so obsessed with it they want to know everything. 1270 01:11:20.079 --> 01:11:22.560 So if there was somebody to ask about this, who 1271 01:11:22.560 --> 01:11:24.760 would know literally all the details, it would be a 1272 01:11:24.760 --> 01:11:25.560 guy like that. 1273 01:11:26.840 --> 01:11:28.520 Right, And it's just so weird to me. After he 1274 01:11:28.880 --> 01:11:31.479 drops all these Tuesday Will details and gets published in 1275 01:11:31.520 --> 01:11:34.359 Steam Shovel Press and Paranoid Magazine and some other publications 1276 01:11:34.359 --> 01:11:37.560 from Adam go Rightley, the author who interviewed him, that 1277 01:11:37.560 --> 01:11:41.560 that film gets made immediately thereafter because. 1278 01:11:41.319 --> 01:11:44.399 They got to make him look like a kook. Absolutely 1279 01:11:44.760 --> 01:11:50.079 and put a transvestite Annie Lennox in there. Absolutely what 1280 01:11:49.800 --> 01:11:53.199 what was Annie Lennox was talking about his character. 1281 01:11:54.399 --> 01:11:57.000 The other character in there, Yeah. 1282 01:11:56.800 --> 01:11:59.239 The one that looks like Marilyn Manson. 1283 01:11:58.920 --> 01:12:01.720 And yeah, the Personal Trainer freak show. You know, I 1284 01:12:01.720 --> 01:12:04.680 don't it's I honestly think, if I recall correctly, I 1285 01:12:04.680 --> 01:12:06.880 looked up and I don't think that person's any longer 1286 01:12:07.119 --> 01:12:09.159 any longer with us, But it's it had a lot 1287 01:12:09.159 --> 01:12:10.600 of problems. They had a lot of problems. 1288 01:12:12.239 --> 01:12:14.399 But I could tell I still. 1289 01:12:14.239 --> 01:12:15.680 Think a lot of I still think a lot of 1290 01:12:15.680 --> 01:12:18.720 stuff that is filmed as in a reality type situation 1291 01:12:18.880 --> 01:12:19.479 is not at all. 1292 01:12:20.640 --> 01:12:22.000 I think it's all still scripted. 1293 01:12:22.039 --> 01:12:24.359 And it's like, like me and JJ have even said this, 1294 01:12:24.439 --> 01:12:26.439 like these might be people and maybe even a perfect 1295 01:12:26.479 --> 01:12:29.680 example of Tuesday. Will this somehow related to somebody who 1296 01:12:29.680 --> 01:12:32.159 are important somehow, either because of a club or a family, 1297 01:12:32.159 --> 01:12:33.239 and they're like, yeah, this. 1298 01:12:33.000 --> 01:12:35.000 This is me, you can do this. We got this 1299 01:12:35.039 --> 01:12:37.920 going mm hmm. And then that's just their way of 1300 01:12:38.119 --> 01:12:40.119 getting in there and getting something to do and getting money. 1301 01:12:41.560 --> 01:12:45.560 Well, oh, go ahead, JJ No, I was just saying again, 1302 01:12:45.640 --> 01:12:48.479 I think to this guy's situations, it's to some degree 1303 01:12:48.520 --> 01:12:51.159 he's part of these same families as well. Right, So 1304 01:12:51.359 --> 01:12:56.319 apparently Teffanie's Jeffrey Turner. So he is autistic, he has 1305 01:12:56.560 --> 01:12:58.079 you know, I think he's just born into a system 1306 01:12:58.079 --> 01:12:59.560 where he they couldn't use the guy for anything else, 1307 01:12:59.560 --> 01:13:01.359 and he just he just seemed to take take notice 1308 01:13:01.359 --> 01:13:03.239 of everything going on around him. That's kind of way. 1309 01:13:03.359 --> 01:13:05.000 That's kind of way I took a situation. 1310 01:13:05.920 --> 01:13:08.119 Well, yeah, because I mean if you look at some 1311 01:13:08.239 --> 01:13:11.479 of even the people who came out in the sixties, 1312 01:13:13.239 --> 01:13:16.560 some of them weren't even like very talented, but they 1313 01:13:16.600 --> 01:13:18.199 became huge megastars. 1314 01:13:18.640 --> 01:13:21.159 And most were not talented, you know what I'm. 1315 01:13:21.000 --> 01:13:24.039 Saying then, right, Like, sure there were some that could 1316 01:13:24.119 --> 01:13:26.840 sing and play instruments, but like for the majority, it 1317 01:13:26.880 --> 01:13:29.800 was like is this even good? But they made it good. 1318 01:13:30.199 --> 01:13:32.760 They made it so popular that you think that it's good. 1319 01:13:33.119 --> 01:13:35.640 You know who made it good? People like Phil Processed, 1320 01:13:35.640 --> 01:13:39.560 Phil Spector and Process, Bob Cocaine Evans. You know, these 1321 01:13:39.560 --> 01:13:42.199 are the people running the music in the movies in 1322 01:13:42.239 --> 01:13:44.279 Hollywood at the time, right the Laurel Canyon scene, that's 1323 01:13:44.279 --> 01:13:46.600 all Phil Spector, you know, right. 1324 01:13:47.079 --> 01:13:51.319 I just you know, I've listened to like Crosby Still 1325 01:13:51.720 --> 01:13:54.720 Nash and the Birds and like all these people, and 1326 01:13:54.760 --> 01:14:01.520 I'm like, they're not extraordinarily talented, you know, vocally or 1327 01:14:02.720 --> 01:14:05.359 I mean, there was some really cool songs that came 1328 01:14:05.399 --> 01:14:07.880 out during that decade. That's why I love it so much, 1329 01:14:07.920 --> 01:14:11.119 But I don't know, it was just like, you know, 1330 01:14:11.159 --> 01:14:15.399 they're all their families are military or like real high up, 1331 01:14:15.520 --> 01:14:18.159 and it's like, Okay, you're going to sing now, you're 1332 01:14:18.159 --> 01:14:20.119 gonna do this now, You're gonna. 1333 01:14:19.880 --> 01:14:24.840 Be exactly now, exactly so Turners. Turner's father and stepfather 1334 01:14:25.199 --> 01:14:29.840 were fighter pilots there, and apparently Tiffany has some relations 1335 01:14:29.840 --> 01:14:31.600 to that same group of fighter pilots. 1336 01:14:32.079 --> 01:14:36.279 My god, Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Though, It's 1337 01:14:36.279 --> 01:14:39.159 like they don't even have to really be that talented 1338 01:14:39.359 --> 01:14:41.239 as long as their family was someone. 1339 01:14:41.880 --> 01:14:43.880 Well, let's be honest with Tiffany talented. She may be 1340 01:14:43.880 --> 01:14:45.720 more known for her Playboy apparents showing her sits in 1341 01:14:45.720 --> 01:14:47.359 the nineties than her mall hit in the eighties. 1342 01:14:49.720 --> 01:14:52.640 Yeah, yeah, no shit, no shit. 1343 01:14:53.359 --> 01:14:55.600 Right right after that movie was made with that I 1344 01:14:55.640 --> 01:14:58.199 think We're alone. Now documentary this guy here in the 1345 01:14:58.279 --> 01:15:00.880 in the Silicon Valley area, some sort of tech blog 1346 01:15:01.039 --> 01:15:04.920 Metro Silicon Valley interviews Jeffrey Dene Turner there, you know, 1347 01:15:05.319 --> 01:15:08.319 in the aftermath of that film, and is obviously roasting him, 1348 01:15:08.319 --> 01:15:10.039 but he goes over a lot of the details that 1349 01:15:10.079 --> 01:15:12.000 Turner tells him and the and their and their lunch 1350 01:15:12.039 --> 01:15:15.600 they had together, including which that that Turner claims that 1351 01:15:15.600 --> 01:15:18.319 he met Charles Manson in the late sixties but refused 1352 01:15:18.319 --> 01:15:20.239 to being doctrinated into his family. And he also met 1353 01:15:20.319 --> 01:15:22.880 David Burkle, whit's the son of same serial killer when 1354 01:15:22.880 --> 01:15:24.600 he used to hang out in the South Bay in 1355 01:15:24.600 --> 01:15:27.399 the seventies. Makes a lot of sense. Mouth makes a 1356 01:15:27.439 --> 01:15:31.159 lot of sense. Oh my god, small process stuff, It's 1357 01:15:31.199 --> 01:15:32.439 certainly possible, in my opinion. 1358 01:15:32.920 --> 01:15:36.239 I wanted to shout out somebody I saw in the comments, Tara, 1359 01:15:37.000 --> 01:15:41.319 what's up girl? Thank you so much. I appreciate you. 1360 01:15:43.319 --> 01:15:48.039 But you know, the son of Sam thing, if you 1361 01:15:48.079 --> 01:15:51.159 really look into it, you and I did program to 1362 01:15:51.279 --> 01:15:56.000 kill on occult rejects before, and he's in there, and 1363 01:15:56.279 --> 01:15:57.359 you know, it's. 1364 01:15:57.159 --> 01:15:57.640 It's like. 1365 01:15:59.159 --> 01:16:01.840 He can't even he can't even be placed at the 1366 01:16:01.880 --> 01:16:05.039 scene for some of the murders that he went down for, 1367 01:16:05.840 --> 01:16:09.319 and yet he gets blamed for everything. And he tried 1368 01:16:09.359 --> 01:16:11.840 to say, like, there's a much bigger thing going on. 1369 01:16:12.560 --> 01:16:17.199 There's multiple layers. This is this is like, I mean, 1370 01:16:17.760 --> 01:16:19.680 is it process? 1371 01:16:20.640 --> 01:16:22.560 Yeah? I got it. I have another show coming up 1372 01:16:22.600 --> 01:16:24.640 on Wednesday night talking precisely this on the same in 1373 01:16:24.680 --> 01:16:29.479 the process with a author Jonathan Mitchell, so you know what. 1374 01:16:29.439 --> 01:16:31.479 I'm talking about. Then that he said like, hey, this 1375 01:16:31.640 --> 01:16:32.800 is a way bigger thing. 1376 01:16:33.479 --> 01:16:34.640 Oh for sure, not just. 1377 01:16:34.680 --> 01:16:38.720 Me I didn't do all this. I'm so. 1378 01:16:38.880 --> 01:16:41.239 I mean, you signed a memorandum stating all that nineteen 1379 01:16:41.279 --> 01:16:43.600 ninety six and witness not only by Mary Terry, the 1380 01:16:43.600 --> 01:16:46.279 author of Ultimate Evil, but there's another party whose names 1381 01:16:46.359 --> 01:16:49.600 escaping me. He's also signed there. He names people like 1382 01:16:49.680 --> 01:16:51.920 Roy Cone, donald Trump's mentors, being a member of the 1383 01:16:52.239 --> 01:16:52.560 knew it. 1384 01:16:53.000 --> 01:16:54.279 I knew it. 1385 01:16:54.279 --> 01:16:55.920 Dude something. 1386 01:16:58.039 --> 01:16:58.600 Roy Cone. 1387 01:16:58.760 --> 01:17:01.079 Yeah, you you and and you and I think maybe 1388 01:17:01.119 --> 01:17:03.000 JJ both have brought his name up multiple times. 1389 01:17:04.640 --> 01:17:09.199 Is a piece of shit. And it's like it's, like 1390 01:17:09.239 --> 01:17:11.199 I said before, I think maybe it was in the 1391 01:17:11.239 --> 01:17:14.800 Program to Kill episode. But it's like, all right, we're 1392 01:17:14.840 --> 01:17:18.439 gonna take all of these people that Donald Trump knows 1393 01:17:18.520 --> 01:17:23.319 that are like his mentors and stuff, people like Roy Kohane, 1394 01:17:23.600 --> 01:17:28.520 and they're known to be pieces of shit, and we're 1395 01:17:28.560 --> 01:17:31.600 just gonna disregard that they have any connection to each other. 1396 01:17:31.840 --> 01:17:35.359 Why is that? Like, I don't understand it. 1397 01:17:36.760 --> 01:17:37.119 I don't know. 1398 01:17:37.159 --> 01:17:39.039 I guess that's sometimes I wonder if that's like part 1399 01:17:39.039 --> 01:17:43.039 of the magic in itself. I think, well, it's it's 1400 01:17:43.079 --> 01:17:46.079 almost as if like I think, you know, I've heard 1401 01:17:46.079 --> 01:17:48.439 somebody say that they they think they saw this happen 1402 01:17:48.520 --> 01:17:51.039 with I can't remember some some kind of newscaster, but 1403 01:17:51.159 --> 01:17:54.399 like people like start to almost kind of build like 1404 01:17:54.479 --> 01:17:57.119 some false relationship with this person and almost start having 1405 01:17:57.119 --> 01:17:59.199 feelings for them even though they've never met. 1406 01:17:59.279 --> 01:18:01.760 And it's so hard to believe something bad about someone 1407 01:18:01.760 --> 01:18:02.119 after that. 1408 01:18:02.840 --> 01:18:04.720 And if you look at a lot of Trump supporters, 1409 01:18:04.720 --> 01:18:06.760 they're they're infatuated with the guy. 1410 01:18:07.439 --> 01:18:09.720 Well, they think he's like a messiah or something. 1411 01:18:09.800 --> 01:18:11.239 So it's so hard to see. 1412 01:18:12.359 --> 01:18:14.279 After that guy came out on what was it, day 1413 01:18:14.439 --> 01:18:16.720 day two and started talking about the vaccines, I don't 1414 01:18:16.720 --> 01:18:19.920 know how most Trump supporters weren't like, what. 1415 01:18:19.840 --> 01:18:26.319 The fuck dude one hundred with them, and it's like 1416 01:18:26.439 --> 01:18:32.520 it's like he's best he's with or was at least 1417 01:18:32.640 --> 01:18:37.159 besties with Epstein. Right, we're gonna forget that one too, 1418 01:18:37.239 --> 01:18:41.359 I guess, even though there's pictures of him together. You know, 1419 01:18:41.479 --> 01:18:44.800 we're gonna forget about Roy JJ or muted. 1420 01:18:46.600 --> 01:18:47.920 Epstein. Never heard of him? 1421 01:18:48.760 --> 01:18:50.800 Oh right, you're right, never heard of him, Never heard 1422 01:18:51.000 --> 01:18:54.239 heard of I guess that's like I said, that's another 1423 01:18:54.279 --> 01:18:57.640 one that they want you to forget about. But this 1424 01:18:57.800 --> 01:19:00.800 Roy Cohne guy, Oh my god, JJ, you got to 1425 01:19:00.840 --> 01:19:05.199 tell Nick more about him sometime. He's he's literally like, 1426 01:19:05.880 --> 01:19:09.199 wasn't he the one with the Violet scandal or whatever? 1427 01:19:10.199 --> 01:19:12.119 Yeah, we did it, we did. Uh, we're gonna We're 1428 01:19:12.159 --> 01:19:13.800 gonna do some more on I think. But we did 1429 01:19:13.800 --> 01:19:16.039 it on the last one of the Mormons and uh 1430 01:19:17.079 --> 01:19:18.560 with the Heidi Love We did a whole series on 1431 01:19:18.600 --> 01:19:22.560 Mormons and parapolitics. And roy Cone comes into play because 1432 01:19:22.560 --> 01:19:26.119 he's on the board of Perman Decks in that JFK situation, 1433 01:19:26.239 --> 01:19:28.520 along along with the Clay Shaw, the man that Jim 1434 01:19:28.560 --> 01:19:34.159 Garrison charged, and the and Joseph Banano, the head of 1435 01:19:34.159 --> 01:19:36.159 the Five Families. He was the head of the Banana family, 1436 01:19:36.199 --> 01:19:37.279 but he was the head of the board of the 1437 01:19:37.279 --> 01:19:39.800 Five Families at the time in New York City. They're 1438 01:19:39.840 --> 01:19:43.720 all sitting on this weird multi national corporation board that's 1439 01:19:43.760 --> 01:19:46.880 in charge of mrkan presidents, Like they try to mark 1440 01:19:46.920 --> 01:19:50.600 the French president twice mm hmm. Yeah. 1441 01:19:50.640 --> 01:19:53.920 And he was wasn't he doing something around the time 1442 01:19:54.000 --> 01:19:56.279 like the Franklin scandal was going on where they were 1443 01:19:56.279 --> 01:19:59.079 bringing little boys to the White House and stuff. That 1444 01:19:59.239 --> 01:20:00.560 was roy co time. 1445 01:20:01.520 --> 01:20:03.319 I think he was he was dead at that time. 1446 01:20:03.359 --> 01:20:05.760 I think he's like God, I think he died just 1447 01:20:05.800 --> 01:20:07.199 prior to the Franklin I mean he may have been 1448 01:20:07.279 --> 01:20:10.079 involved in the Franklins scandal by all means, I'm I 1449 01:20:10.119 --> 01:20:12.560 wouldn't doubt it. The man was well connected in politics 1450 01:20:12.560 --> 01:20:15.399 and Devlin. So but I think he died of age 1451 01:20:15.439 --> 01:20:16.039 in eighty six. 1452 01:20:17.359 --> 01:20:21.439 Well he I remember Paul Banassi saying something about him. 1453 01:20:21.760 --> 01:20:23.800 That's what I'm saying. Yeah, he may he made I 1454 01:20:23.840 --> 01:20:25.680 don't know enough of the details about the Franklin stuff 1455 01:20:25.680 --> 01:20:26.840 that he may very well come up in that. He 1456 01:20:26.880 --> 01:20:29.760 because obviously the Franklin scandal may got outed in the eighties, 1457 01:20:29.760 --> 01:20:31.439 but it was obviously going on a lot longer. 1458 01:20:31.159 --> 01:20:33.399 Than that, right yep, yep, yep, yep. It went all 1459 01:20:33.439 --> 01:20:36.119 the way into the nineties with that civil trial. 1460 01:20:36.880 --> 01:20:37.079 Right. 1461 01:20:37.840 --> 01:20:43.199 So but anyways, that's besides the point. Roy Kohne knows 1462 01:20:43.840 --> 01:20:47.319 the son of Sam. 1463 01:20:46.159 --> 01:20:47.880 Oh Yeah, he claimed to meet him and gone to 1464 01:20:47.920 --> 01:20:49.680 his parties. They all hung out to the Studio fifty 1465 01:20:49.680 --> 01:20:52.520 four together. So another member of the colt was allegedly 1466 01:20:52.560 --> 01:20:56.720 an aid to the mayor Abe Beam. That man was 1467 01:20:56.760 --> 01:21:00.199 also that was he left that job and beca came 1468 01:21:00.239 --> 01:21:03.520 Roy Cone's law partner in the late seventies. There their 1469 01:21:03.600 --> 01:21:05.640 clients were the Studio fifty four owners. 1470 01:21:06.680 --> 01:21:08.760 That's why the and then he went on to be 1471 01:21:08.880 --> 01:21:09.680 Trump's mentor. 1472 01:21:11.960 --> 01:21:14.560 Oh, he's already telling mentor at this point. He meets 1473 01:21:14.560 --> 01:21:19.000 Trump in nineteen seventy three, Rogers Stone introduces the two 1474 01:21:19.359 --> 01:21:21.479 Roger Stone just meets Trump. He says, Hey, you got 1475 01:21:21.520 --> 01:21:24.680 to meet my friend Roy Cone. So Donald had just 1476 01:21:24.760 --> 01:21:29.119 hired him in seventy minutes seventy eight. I think it's 1477 01:21:29.159 --> 01:21:30.920 seventy eight. You can find a picture of it. It's 1478 01:21:30.920 --> 01:21:36.000 called No, it's called Roy cones fifty second birthday party 1479 01:21:36.000 --> 01:21:38.560 at Studio fifty four. It was a vandy Fair article 1480 01:21:38.560 --> 01:21:41.439 and stuff. Roy Cones got like on a little leash, 1481 01:21:41.560 --> 01:21:43.600 like a little cross dressing Donald Trump right next to 1482 01:21:43.640 --> 01:21:46.319 him there at his party. You think Donald's twenty eight. 1483 01:21:46.479 --> 01:21:49.359 You have that picture he just hired. I'll find it. 1484 01:21:49.399 --> 01:21:51.560 He just hires Roy Cone as his attorney for this 1485 01:21:51.600 --> 01:21:54.760 building he's purchasing, and then Roy's having his birthday party 1486 01:21:54.800 --> 01:21:57.159 at the club where his other clients he's representing in 1487 01:21:57.239 --> 01:22:00.279 some coke trafficking, the Studio fifty four owners. You know 1488 01:22:01.399 --> 01:22:03.920 that was basically so according to Burkewitz, Studio fifty four 1489 01:22:03.960 --> 01:22:06.079 is essentially the Processed Church hangout. 1490 01:22:07.199 --> 01:22:10.640 So he's hanging out, So Roy is hanging out with 1491 01:22:10.840 --> 01:22:14.760 the son of Sam Berkowitz and Trump cross dressed on 1492 01:22:14.840 --> 01:22:18.000 a leash all during the same time. 1493 01:22:18.079 --> 01:22:20.119 Absolutely, yes, ma'am, Yes, ma'am. I like to look at 1494 01:22:20.159 --> 01:22:24.039 it like this, that somewhere around Serraa nineteen seventy seventy seven, 1495 01:22:24.079 --> 01:22:27.079 you may have, in fact, had Donald Trump, Roy Cohne, 1496 01:22:27.479 --> 01:22:31.439 David Berkowitz, and Michael Jackson moonwalking around the dance floor 1497 01:22:31.439 --> 01:22:32.640 of Studio fifty four together. 1498 01:22:32.720 --> 01:22:37.359 I can't shut the fuck absolutely up. 1499 01:22:37.800 --> 01:22:40.680 Oh my god, they were all there. 1500 01:22:41.920 --> 01:22:43.920 This is why, this is why I can't get on 1501 01:22:44.000 --> 01:22:50.039 board with any politics whatsoever. It's like you literally, you 1502 01:22:50.199 --> 01:22:53.000 literally cannot choose a team when it comes to this 1503 01:22:53.039 --> 01:22:56.000 stuff because they're all just cross dressing. 1504 01:22:57.239 --> 01:23:01.359 Processed Church members exactly. This is this is the article 1505 01:23:01.399 --> 01:23:04.079 about But the birthday boy Roy Cone is fifty two. 1506 01:23:04.119 --> 01:23:06.840 At fifty four, I'll to find the picture. But in 1507 01:23:06.880 --> 01:23:09.000 this article you'll see another person who I like to 1508 01:23:09.199 --> 01:23:11.279 who's got connections to the Nexteum cult or as I 1509 01:23:11.359 --> 01:23:14.560 like to call them, the Albany Chapter of the Processed Church. 1510 01:23:15.199 --> 01:23:18.640 And that is here at ROYKK. They go over all 1511 01:23:18.640 --> 01:23:20.720 the people to show up here at Roy Cone's birthday party, 1512 01:23:20.720 --> 01:23:23.560 and I'll go over. Donald Trump has listed here too. 1513 01:23:23.600 --> 01:23:26.880 But you got mob figures, you got, you know, mayors, 1514 01:23:26.920 --> 01:23:30.000 you got you know, you got judges you know what 1515 01:23:30.039 --> 01:23:31.840 I mean, District court judges, you know what I mean. 1516 01:23:32.399 --> 01:23:34.479 And then you scroll down here and you see, uh, 1517 01:23:35.159 --> 01:23:41.760 Chuck Schumer junior. Wow, newcomer Chuck Schumer, a reform assembly 1518 01:23:41.760 --> 01:23:43.720 meant from Brooklyn. He's not even he's not even a 1519 01:23:43.800 --> 01:23:46.319 US congress yet. This is he's assembly man from Brooklyn 1520 01:23:46.720 --> 01:23:48.720 who insisted he was just the date of a gossip 1521 01:23:48.760 --> 01:23:51.239 columnist we sucked off. 1522 01:23:51.680 --> 01:23:53.399 He sucked him off and became. 1523 01:23:54.920 --> 01:23:56.840 I would argue the reason why he's connected to the 1524 01:23:56.880 --> 01:23:58.920 next um stuff now is because he was connected to 1525 01:23:58.960 --> 01:24:01.039 the process stuff back and he. 1526 01:24:01.119 --> 01:24:02.439 Was sucking dudes off. 1527 01:24:02.560 --> 01:24:10.560 I'm telling you, I think that's you not accept that 1528 01:24:10.600 --> 01:24:12.960 going in the door, I think, right, right. 1529 01:24:13.159 --> 01:24:16.640 Have you guys ever watched Adventures in Babysitting and it's 1530 01:24:16.680 --> 01:24:20.640 like you, nobody leaves his place without singing the blues, well, 1531 01:24:22.479 --> 01:24:23.680 without sucking the dick. 1532 01:24:24.079 --> 01:24:28.039 So that's right, Hey, wasn't that Chuck Berry in that 1533 01:24:28.039 --> 01:24:30.239 that said that nobody gets out of here without singing 1534 01:24:30.239 --> 01:24:30.600 the blues. 1535 01:24:30.600 --> 01:24:31.479 That was Chuck Berry? 1536 01:24:32.159 --> 01:24:36.199 Was that really? Chuck? Very? Holy shit? So long, Erry, Yeah, 1537 01:24:36.760 --> 01:24:39.800 so long? Is that around the same time he was filming, 1538 01:24:39.840 --> 01:24:41.800 he was filming prostitutes to fart in his mouth. 1539 01:24:42.479 --> 01:24:42.720 Come. 1540 01:24:44.239 --> 01:24:46.279 Yeah. When they raided they raided his house in the 1541 01:24:46.319 --> 01:24:48.399 late nineties, early I think it was late nineties. He 1542 01:24:48.439 --> 01:24:51.520 had installed cameras and all these Kfcason taco bells across 1543 01:24:51.560 --> 01:24:54.880 the Midwest that he owned in women's toilets, and he 1544 01:24:54.960 --> 01:24:57.199 got in The FEDS rated the restaurants in his house 1545 01:24:57.239 --> 01:24:59.840 about that. When they raided his house, the FED sees 1546 01:24:59.880 --> 01:25:03.319 the box of videos of him recording himself hiring hookers 1547 01:25:03.359 --> 01:25:06.159 just to fart in their mouths, and he uh, the 1548 01:25:06.159 --> 01:25:08.359 Feds releasedless. The reason why this came out somebody leads 1549 01:25:08.359 --> 01:25:10.279 into the tabloids, you know what I mean, So like. 1550 01:25:10.239 --> 01:25:13.039 Oh my god, nobody gets out of this taco bell 1551 01:25:13.079 --> 01:25:14.399 without farting in my mouth. 1552 01:25:15.199 --> 01:25:23.880 Yeah, but he'd already been convicted, you know, child Saxophone 1553 01:25:24.000 --> 01:25:27.319 remain Act decades prior. But he got busted for filming 1554 01:25:27.319 --> 01:25:31.000 women in bathroom toilets. That of restaurants he owned o 1555 01:25:31.359 --> 01:25:35.920 my god, Taco Bell, Jack Barry, Yeah right, Taco Bell 1556 01:25:36.000 --> 01:25:38.039 all places. JJ. 1557 01:25:38.159 --> 01:25:39.680 This might be the picture. I'm gonna throw it up 1558 01:25:39.680 --> 01:25:40.279 on the screens. 1559 01:25:40.520 --> 01:25:41.800 Yeah, you got it. I was looking. 1560 01:25:42.319 --> 01:25:42.920 This is it. 1561 01:25:44.399 --> 01:25:46.880 That's it et your old Donald Trump. 1562 01:25:47.680 --> 01:25:52.920 Oh my god, it's just like and uh, you know 1563 01:25:52.960 --> 01:25:55.239 they'd got they dressed him up as a girl too. 1564 01:25:56.239 --> 01:25:59.600 Yep. So, according according to this article about that party 1565 01:25:59.640 --> 01:26:02.800 right there, Trump has just hired Roy Cone to be 1566 01:26:02.800 --> 01:26:07.800 his attorneys. Well that again, that's you probably do that 1567 01:26:07.840 --> 01:26:09.439 in the in the coat room before you can get 1568 01:26:09.479 --> 01:26:13.119 into the actual place. The crowd from my recent voice 1569 01:26:13.159 --> 01:26:15.359 series was their thirty two year old developer of the 1570 01:26:15.359 --> 01:26:18.760 Commodore Hotel and the convention Center, Donald Trump. So he 1571 01:26:18.800 --> 01:26:21.560 had just right prior to this photograph, he had just 1572 01:26:21.680 --> 01:26:24.399 hired Roy Cone as his attorney. But he'd known Roy 1573 01:26:24.439 --> 01:26:26.640 for about six years, about five years. 1574 01:26:27.920 --> 01:26:30.279 That's how that's why he knew to show up to 1575 01:26:30.319 --> 01:26:31.720 the party in full drag. 1576 01:26:32.279 --> 01:26:34.840 He's like, yes, some folks, if you have some folks, 1577 01:26:34.880 --> 01:26:36.520 there's some folks in the Son of Sam community. I'm 1578 01:26:36.520 --> 01:26:38.479 not one of them, but there's there are some folks 1579 01:26:38.560 --> 01:26:40.079 in the Son of Sam community that think one of 1580 01:26:40.119 --> 01:26:45.079 the sketches of these shooters looks a lot like Donald Trump. Oh, 1581 01:26:45.680 --> 01:26:47.399 would have been about twenty six at the time. 1582 01:26:48.039 --> 01:26:53.600 Woww yes, yes, you know. My somebody in my family 1583 01:26:53.600 --> 01:26:55.560 the other day they sent me this hoodie. They were like, 1584 01:26:55.600 --> 01:26:57.760 oh my god, I gotta get this. And it was 1585 01:26:57.760 --> 01:27:00.239 a picture of Donald Trump in front of the White 1586 01:27:00.279 --> 01:27:03.000 House and it said Daddy's Home. And I was like, 1587 01:27:03.119 --> 01:27:05.960 I'm just gonna kill myself if I see another thing 1588 01:27:06.079 --> 01:27:09.079 like this. I mean, it's just so yeah, Daddy's home 1589 01:27:09.159 --> 01:27:14.159 to suck Dixon the White House, you know, right, look 1590 01:27:14.199 --> 01:27:20.359 at this stuff. He probably flirted in his mouth right 1591 01:27:20.399 --> 01:27:21.359 after this picture was. 1592 01:27:23.199 --> 01:27:25.840 So he would have been twenty five at the time 1593 01:27:25.840 --> 01:27:26.359 of the sketch. 1594 01:27:26.439 --> 01:27:29.720 Right here, I believe Trump was yelling, drill, baby, drill. 1595 01:27:34.119 --> 01:27:36.760 Here, here's the here's the son of Sam sketch. Shooter 1596 01:27:36.800 --> 01:27:41.600 sketch looks a lot like Donald Trump, with or without drag. 1597 01:27:43.399 --> 01:27:44.840 This would have been a couple of years pre drag. 1598 01:27:44.880 --> 01:27:46.600 This has been seventy six. That was seventy nine. 1599 01:27:46.720 --> 01:27:48.560 Oh my god, look at that. 1600 01:27:50.439 --> 01:27:54.560 It looks like freaking what's his son's name, Baron, Baron. 1601 01:27:55.199 --> 01:27:59.680 Look at that picture. That's the young young truck. 1602 01:28:00.960 --> 01:28:03.039 I suppose the circumstantial argument could be made he did 1603 01:28:03.359 --> 01:28:05.600 know Roy Cohen, who Burkowitz claimed was a member of 1604 01:28:05.640 --> 01:28:07.720 the process. But now I have never seen anything they 1605 01:28:07.720 --> 01:28:09.560 claimed Burkowitz new Donald Trump or claimed he was one 1606 01:28:09.600 --> 01:28:11.640 of the shooters. He's identified all of these shooters as 1607 01:28:11.680 --> 01:28:13.880 somebody else. But there is you know, there is this 1608 01:28:13.960 --> 01:28:16.079 sketch that people like this. You know, hey, why does 1609 01:28:16.079 --> 01:28:17.439 this look like him? 1610 01:28:17.960 --> 01:28:18.199 Why? 1611 01:28:18.479 --> 01:28:24.760 Literally, why does it look like him? Damn, that is 1612 01:28:24.840 --> 01:28:27.039 got to be him. I don't care what anybody says. 1613 01:28:27.079 --> 01:28:30.359 That looks just like if you well, like, because I've 1614 01:28:30.479 --> 01:28:34.199 studied the zodiac and they have like the zodiac composite 1615 01:28:34.239 --> 01:28:37.239 sketch and every single person they try to put next 1616 01:28:37.239 --> 01:28:39.239 to it and say, oh, this was the Zodiac, this 1617 01:28:39.359 --> 01:28:41.880 was the Zodiac. I'm like, dude, that looks nothing like 1618 01:28:41.920 --> 01:28:45.880 the composite sketch. I would know that Trump without even 1619 01:28:45.960 --> 01:28:48.840 seeing the side by side like that looks kay, and 1620 01:28:48.920 --> 01:28:49.560 he as fun. 1621 01:28:49.399 --> 01:28:51.119 You know, it's funny. The hair even fits him today 1622 01:28:51.279 --> 01:28:53.359 still the way wow, it's like very sometimes stick on 1623 01:28:53.359 --> 01:28:55.279 one side and. 1624 01:28:55.239 --> 01:28:56.199 The weird eyebrow. 1625 01:28:57.399 --> 01:28:58.760 Yeah, I'm trying to find a picture of him at 1626 01:28:58.800 --> 01:29:00.319 that time. I can't find a picture of the age 1627 01:29:00.319 --> 01:29:02.680 of twenty five or twenty six, Like one of. 1628 01:29:02.600 --> 01:29:05.119 Them sticks up way more than the other one. 1629 01:29:05.840 --> 01:29:16.920 That's crazy dead riger for real, for real? 1630 01:29:17.399 --> 01:29:24.920 Yes, oh thank you, Yeah, I mean it does. It 1631 01:29:24.960 --> 01:29:26.680 does have bear resemblance. There's no question. 1632 01:29:27.560 --> 01:29:31.920 I mean, you just blew my entire mind because I've 1633 01:29:31.920 --> 01:29:35.640 talked about Roy Roy Kohane for the last like year now, 1634 01:29:35.960 --> 01:29:39.000 since I read the pet the I covered it in 1635 01:29:39.000 --> 01:29:42.039 the Pedophocracy series, but since I read Program to Kill 1636 01:29:42.359 --> 01:29:45.920 and I found out about him and his connection to Trump, 1637 01:29:46.000 --> 01:29:48.479 I've been talking about him, and I'm like, people need 1638 01:29:48.520 --> 01:29:51.960 a lookit at this guy because he's fucked up. But 1639 01:29:52.479 --> 01:29:55.800 I didn't note to the to the degree cross dressing 1640 01:29:55.920 --> 01:29:59.479 and shit like that. Son of Sam Processed Church. Oh 1641 01:29:59.520 --> 01:30:02.000 my god, I don't think. 1642 01:30:02.000 --> 01:30:03.880 I don't think Donald Trump knew Tuesday Well, but he 1643 01:30:03.880 --> 01:30:08.439 definitely knew her cousin Bill Weld. Mmmm, they got you know, 1644 01:30:08.439 --> 01:30:12.600 the politician crazy I won Bill Well ran againstm Right 1645 01:30:12.640 --> 01:30:14.520 in twenty sixteen. Right he was the He was the 1646 01:30:14.600 --> 01:30:18.399 Libertarian Party's VP against Trump in twenty sixteen, Bill Wild. 1647 01:30:19.399 --> 01:30:21.680 Can you find a recent picture of her? I feel 1648 01:30:21.720 --> 01:30:23.760 like that would be a good way to sum everything up. 1649 01:30:23.800 --> 01:30:25.439 I just wonder what she lives like now. 1650 01:30:25.760 --> 01:30:31.199 Yeah, she's actually aged decently, you know, as far as 1651 01:30:31.279 --> 01:30:33.800 you know, comparison to like you were saying, Marilyn Monroe 1652 01:30:33.840 --> 01:30:34.560 and Jane Mansfield. 1653 01:30:34.600 --> 01:30:38.119 I guess right, Yeah, who died very ritualistically. 1654 01:30:40.399 --> 01:30:43.479 Yeah, Jane Mansfield. Jane Mansfield knew the son of Sam 1655 01:30:43.520 --> 01:30:50.119 cult people, damn it. She was also the Westchester politician, 1656 01:30:50.199 --> 01:30:51.560 Westchester County politician. 1657 01:30:51.920 --> 01:30:52.680 That's nuts. 1658 01:30:52.800 --> 01:30:54.640 She was on She's Buried. 1659 01:30:54.319 --> 01:31:01.520 There the album cover for Magical Mystery Tour. Okay, you 1660 01:31:01.560 --> 01:31:03.800 know the Beetles cover that's got. 1661 01:31:03.600 --> 01:31:07.600 Like all differenter. 1662 01:31:06.760 --> 01:31:11.520 Sergeant Peppers, sorry, Sergeant Peppers. She's right there, and she's 1663 01:31:11.560 --> 01:31:15.680 commonly mistaken to be Marilyn Monroe. But it's Jane Jane Mansfield. 1664 01:31:16.800 --> 01:31:19.479 Okay, I know what you're talking about. That's Jane Mansweld, 1665 01:31:19.520 --> 01:31:22.479 not Marilyn Monroe. I wonder if he like Tuesday Weld 1666 01:31:22.520 --> 01:31:23.279 in twenty twenty. 1667 01:31:23.439 --> 01:31:25.159 I wonder if you picked apart all those people, if 1668 01:31:25.199 --> 01:31:27.279 you'd see some sort of commonality between. 1669 01:31:27.039 --> 01:31:30.000 All you should pull it up, because actually I have one. 1670 01:31:33.680 --> 01:31:34.880 Oh is that her right there? 1671 01:31:35.680 --> 01:31:37.199 That's supposedly her in twenty twenty. 1672 01:31:37.760 --> 01:31:39.359 She don't look terrible. 1673 01:31:40.560 --> 01:31:42.119 No, that's what I'm saying. She doesn't look you know, 1674 01:31:42.159 --> 01:31:43.439 she's got her hair, you know what I mean. She 1675 01:31:43.439 --> 01:31:45.720 seems maybe have her teeth still, you know. 1676 01:31:45.960 --> 01:31:48.520 Yeah, it looks like her skin is pretty smooth, probably 1677 01:31:48.560 --> 01:31:48.960 from all of. 1678 01:31:49.079 --> 01:31:50.760 Yeah, she doesn't. She doesn't look too much like a 1679 01:31:50.760 --> 01:31:51.439 demon dushy. 1680 01:31:52.079 --> 01:31:55.359 Yeah, she probably got baby Dick's skin injected into her 1681 01:31:55.399 --> 01:32:04.479 face or whatever they do, baby scrolled of blood. Yeah yeah, yeah, 1682 01:32:04.720 --> 01:32:07.399 all like creams and ointments. They reb on each other's 1683 01:32:07.439 --> 01:32:13.439 be holes, right, But yeah, no, Nick, pull up that 1684 01:32:13.520 --> 01:32:17.079 cover because I actually I feel like this is the 1685 01:32:17.199 --> 01:32:20.319 cover that people talk about was like one of the 1686 01:32:20.439 --> 01:32:24.760 major signals that the old Paul had died and was 1687 01:32:24.840 --> 01:32:27.479 replaced by the new Paul. And if you really look 1688 01:32:27.479 --> 01:32:30.680 at it, there are so many things in there, even 1689 01:32:30.760 --> 01:32:33.800 beside Jane's Jane Mansfield, which she was killed in a 1690 01:32:33.840 --> 01:32:37.159 car act the same way that they say the old 1691 01:32:37.239 --> 01:32:45.000 Paul was killed in a carreck. Sure, so right, I 1692 01:32:45.039 --> 01:32:47.560 do feel like that's significant because if you were going 1693 01:32:47.640 --> 01:32:50.439 to put somebody on there and everybody mistakes it as 1694 01:32:50.479 --> 01:32:53.600 being Marilyn Monroe, but it's like they both the old 1695 01:32:53.720 --> 01:32:59.479 Paul supposedly and Jane Mansfield died in like horrific car accidents. 1696 01:33:00.000 --> 01:33:02.079 That's definitely, that's definitely a different Paul. There's no way 1697 01:33:02.119 --> 01:33:02.840 that's the same Paul. 1698 01:33:03.119 --> 01:33:11.159 Yeah, to me, it's not. If you look. If you look, 1699 01:33:11.199 --> 01:33:15.960 it's like the new Beatles are burying the dead. See 1700 01:33:15.960 --> 01:33:18.239 if you look at the original Beatles, it's like they're 1701 01:33:18.239 --> 01:33:21.079 all sad and they're mourning and they're looking at the grave. 1702 01:33:21.920 --> 01:33:25.760 And then it's like a super tall Paul in blue 1703 01:33:25.840 --> 01:33:28.520 that's way taller than the Paul over here, because he 1704 01:33:28.640 --> 01:33:31.439 was supposedly like six inches taller than the old Paul. 1705 01:33:32.399 --> 01:33:37.159 And they definitely you can see that. And then they 1706 01:33:37.159 --> 01:33:41.479 have right over there Jane Mansfield front and she's right 1707 01:33:41.479 --> 01:33:45.800 in the very front row, commonly mistaken for Marilyn Monroe 1708 01:33:45.800 --> 01:33:50.359 and the gold dress. There's also I think Edgar Allan 1709 01:33:50.479 --> 01:33:57.520 Poe he died weird. There's Alistair Crowley in the back 1710 01:33:58.600 --> 01:34:03.680 Karl Marks yep, if you I don't know, so, I 1711 01:34:03.680 --> 01:34:08.359 guess it would be my top left. You can see 1712 01:34:08.439 --> 01:34:14.000 Alistair Crowley right there isn't Hitler in here somewhere too. 1713 01:34:14.199 --> 01:34:19.960 I feel like Marlon Brando mm hmmm, I mean Marylyn 1714 01:34:20.880 --> 01:34:23.800 Marilyn Monroe is in there. She's in black and white, 1715 01:34:25.680 --> 01:34:29.279 see it. Yeah, yeah, but she's not the center of attention, 1716 01:34:29.359 --> 01:34:33.439 not like Jane over here for sure. And uh, they're 1717 01:34:33.520 --> 01:34:38.279 standing at a grave, which I have always thought was significant, 1718 01:34:38.319 --> 01:34:40.279 Like why are they standing at a grave with the 1719 01:34:40.319 --> 01:34:48.439 old Beatles like sad and crying and shit? Right, I 1720 01:34:48.560 --> 01:34:51.920 just I don't know. There's something about the little girl 1721 01:34:52.439 --> 01:34:55.319 in the chair too, with the red and white striped 1722 01:34:55.359 --> 01:35:00.079 shirt on right there. Yeah, yeah, there's something about that too. Oh, 1723 01:35:00.159 --> 01:35:02.199 I wish I could go back. I did an episode 1724 01:35:02.239 --> 01:35:05.760 on it, and there there's something it looks like it's 1725 01:35:05.760 --> 01:35:10.520 got like like a blood welcome the Rolling Stones and 1726 01:35:10.560 --> 01:35:13.279 it looks like it's like splattered with blood. 1727 01:35:14.439 --> 01:35:16.800 Creepy, yeah, like on the arm. It actually does something 1728 01:35:16.840 --> 01:35:17.159 like that. 1729 01:35:17.960 --> 01:35:21.600 Yeah, so there's something about that too. It was like 1730 01:35:22.760 --> 01:35:26.880 the transitioning between the old Beetles and the new Beetles 1731 01:35:27.199 --> 01:35:30.800 in the Rolling Stones something like that. It was around 1732 01:35:30.840 --> 01:35:35.279 like the same time. I can't remember when they replaced Paul, 1733 01:35:36.800 --> 01:35:37.920 but uh, it. 1734 01:35:37.920 --> 01:35:40.039 Was right before this sixty six. This is sixty seven 1735 01:35:40.600 --> 01:35:43.840 mm hmmm, twenty years ago today Sergeant Pepper taught the 1736 01:35:43.840 --> 01:35:47.199 band to play. Is often assumed they're talking about Crowley 1737 01:35:47.680 --> 01:35:48.720 he died really. 1738 01:35:50.960 --> 01:35:53.520 But yeah, I mean I think this is one of 1739 01:35:53.520 --> 01:35:55.880 those rabbit holes you can go down because it's just 1740 01:35:55.920 --> 01:35:59.359 such a hodgepodge of like weird stuff and like why 1741 01:36:00.239 --> 01:36:01.840 why put it together in that way? 1742 01:36:03.199 --> 01:36:07.359 Well, their process, I mean you're doing we're process stuff. 1743 01:36:07.760 --> 01:36:14.039 Well that's where that's where John Matt Yoko was the process. Mayfair. Yeah, 1744 01:36:14.119 --> 01:36:16.119 it was owned. It was owned by Paul mccartt, the 1745 01:36:16.119 --> 01:36:20.199 original Paul's girlfriend's brother, Jane Asher, was his girlfriend. Peter Asher, 1746 01:36:20.560 --> 01:36:24.000 major major music producer guy in Hollywood till this till 1747 01:36:24.039 --> 01:36:26.720 this day. I think he's associated with the p Diddy stuff. 1748 01:36:26.760 --> 01:36:29.920 I'm not mistaken that he was a member of the 1749 01:36:29.920 --> 01:36:32.359 process and he owned the coffee shop and headquarters over 1750 01:36:32.359 --> 01:36:35.880 there in the Mayfair district. Their first cousin, Jane and 1751 01:36:35.880 --> 01:36:39.840 Peter Asher's first cousin, lives in canab Utah today. She's 1752 01:36:39.840 --> 01:36:41.319 an og member of the process. 1753 01:36:42.199 --> 01:36:44.159 So do you know if the guy who shot John 1754 01:36:44.239 --> 01:36:45.319 Lennon was processed? 1755 01:36:45.800 --> 01:36:48.920 Because we were just talking about that. Actually, we were 1756 01:36:48.960 --> 01:36:51.439 just talking about that Friday night, weren't we, Nick, Yeah, 1757 01:36:51.479 --> 01:36:53.600 we were on our Friday night show. We were talking 1758 01:36:53.760 --> 01:36:56.520 why do we start tall because our guest was talking 1759 01:36:56.600 --> 01:36:59.880 about the jfk assassination in Lennon Vans, and I was like, 1760 01:36:59.880 --> 01:37:02.000 I know a lenin Van and there's a guy that 1761 01:37:02.079 --> 01:37:05.159 drives around America claiming that Stephen King murdered John Lennon. 1762 01:37:05.479 --> 01:37:07.720 But we started talking about the process and everything else. 1763 01:37:08.680 --> 01:37:09.720 Really, are you. 1764 01:37:09.760 --> 01:37:11.479 Know from Avery Stephen King murder John Lennon. 1765 01:37:12.319 --> 01:37:16.760 I wouldn't put it past him, right because I know 1766 01:37:16.800 --> 01:37:20.199 that the guy that they blamed it on, Mark David 1767 01:37:20.520 --> 01:37:24.119 Wasn't that his name? Chapman Chapman Yep, he was a 1768 01:37:24.119 --> 01:37:26.720 good friend of Kenneth Anger. 1769 01:37:28.159 --> 01:37:30.319 Yeah. He had some connections right to scientology too, I 1770 01:37:30.359 --> 01:37:31.560 believe right. 1771 01:37:31.640 --> 01:37:34.399 So I just wondered if the process came in anywhere 1772 01:37:34.560 --> 01:37:35.800 with that, that's interesting. 1773 01:37:36.760 --> 01:37:38.439 I'm gonna look more into it. I mean, it happened 1774 01:37:38.439 --> 01:37:41.319 to Dakota Building. That's where Bob Cokaine Evans and Roman 1775 01:37:41.319 --> 01:37:46.239 Polanski film There's Satanist Shit Show of the film. Rosemary 1776 01:37:46.319 --> 01:37:49.720 Baby was supposed to start Tuesday. Well until she turned 1777 01:37:49.720 --> 01:37:50.079 it down. 1778 01:37:50.520 --> 01:37:53.199 I was gonna say, you go, there's the tie back. 1779 01:37:53.239 --> 01:37:58.239 It was supposed to be Tuesday. The High Priestess Witch 1780 01:37:58.439 --> 01:38:00.359 herself no. 1781 01:38:00.319 --> 01:38:02.039 I'm I'm sure there's more of than len murder there 1782 01:38:02.039 --> 01:38:04.000 with the process, for sure, quite. 1783 01:38:03.760 --> 01:38:09.000 Positive, who fucking even knows, But yeah, I think this 1784 01:38:09.039 --> 01:38:11.920 is a really great place for people to, like, if 1785 01:38:11.920 --> 01:38:15.560 they've never looked into her, or if they're this this 1786 01:38:15.720 --> 01:38:17.760 is like the first time they're ever hearing about her, 1787 01:38:17.840 --> 01:38:21.319 to go and just look at her Wikipedia, because there's 1788 01:38:21.800 --> 01:38:23.439 you know, if you start at the top and you 1789 01:38:23.520 --> 01:38:25.640 just go all the way down, there's so many things 1790 01:38:25.640 --> 01:38:28.159 in there you just would not believe like she's connected 1791 01:38:28.159 --> 01:38:31.640 to or that she people, that she knew, the circles 1792 01:38:31.680 --> 01:38:37.840 she traveled in. And some people have even speculated that 1793 01:38:37.840 --> 01:38:41.239 that plane crash with Buddy Hawley and the Big Bopper 1794 01:38:41.279 --> 01:38:46.000 and Richie Allen's was like the sacrifice that ascended Tuesday 1795 01:38:46.199 --> 01:38:48.319 into the counterculture movement. 1796 01:38:48.960 --> 01:38:51.079 I'm glad, I'm glad you said that. I'm glad you. 1797 01:38:53.000 --> 01:38:57.560 Right, Yeah, yeah, by Domin Queen right, Hi, Yes, would 1798 01:38:57.640 --> 01:39:00.920 you believe that Domin Lean's forefather is first of all, 1799 01:39:00.960 --> 01:39:02.840 Domin Klean's a member of the Society of Cincinnati. 1800 01:39:02.840 --> 01:39:05.920 His forefather wasn't well a potential member. His forefather was 1801 01:39:05.920 --> 01:39:09.399 a member. His paternal forefather and his paternal forefather most 1802 01:39:09.399 --> 01:39:13.560 certainly knew Elizer Weld. Colonel Eliser Weld there and they 1803 01:39:13.600 --> 01:39:14.199 served together. 1804 01:39:14.560 --> 01:39:17.560 So maybe maybe that's what the connection is though, because 1805 01:39:17.600 --> 01:39:18.960 they say that's what it was. 1806 01:39:19.640 --> 01:39:22.159 Yeah, it was like there were they're rumored to be dating, right, 1807 01:39:22.560 --> 01:39:24.840 Weld and McLean, right, and that's what he writes that 1808 01:39:24.920 --> 01:39:29.199 song about the tribute to the power well hold, their 1809 01:39:29.239 --> 01:39:30.399 families have history together. 1810 01:39:31.119 --> 01:39:34.399 Holy shit, because I never I never knew what the 1811 01:39:34.439 --> 01:39:37.359 tie was because they said, you know that plane crash, 1812 01:39:37.520 --> 01:39:40.720 it was the sacrifice for Tuesday, and then she was 1813 01:39:40.760 --> 01:39:45.880 supposed to like ascend into whatever, and then the the 1814 01:39:45.920 --> 01:39:48.800 American Pie song was supposed to be about that and 1815 01:39:48.880 --> 01:39:50.840 about and then oh my god. 1816 01:39:51.079 --> 01:39:54.279 Do you know the source of that sale you just described? No, 1817 01:39:55.199 --> 01:39:57.880 Jeffrey Dean Turner, the Autistic Man in the Kitchen to 1818 01:39:57.880 --> 01:40:04.000 say say, California. Yeah, that was from the Rightley series. 1819 01:40:05.720 --> 01:40:08.319 Oh my god. 1820 01:40:08.640 --> 01:40:10.760 That's what I'm saying. The dude's onto something, right, He's 1821 01:40:10.760 --> 01:40:13.039 got you make some good points. He makes some good points. 1822 01:40:13.319 --> 01:40:15.560 I want to meet the fucker. I want him on 1823 01:40:15.560 --> 01:40:15.920 my show. 1824 01:40:16.760 --> 01:40:19.800 He's still a lovey. I'm sure you'd probably contact him. 1825 01:40:20.279 --> 01:40:23.359 But that song is definitely about that song is definitely 1826 01:40:23.359 --> 01:40:25.960 about a ritual. I mean, the last the last the 1827 01:40:26.079 --> 01:40:29.000 entire last verse is all about is it mentioned Satan twice? 1828 01:40:29.039 --> 01:40:30.439 The Tanic rituals? Everything else? 1829 01:40:30.880 --> 01:40:34.199 Mm hmmm. One of my favorite songs too, is crazy 1830 01:40:35.359 --> 01:40:37.199 you know, you know when you the first time you 1831 01:40:37.239 --> 01:40:38.960 hear it, like I was a kid the first time 1832 01:40:39.000 --> 01:40:40.720 I heard it, and you just sing it, you know, 1833 01:40:40.800 --> 01:40:43.840 and passing because it's catchy, but it means something totally 1834 01:40:43.840 --> 01:40:48.479 different to me as an adult. Yeah, I mean. And 1835 01:40:48.760 --> 01:40:51.119 by the way, if I was to ever get in 1836 01:40:51.159 --> 01:40:53.800 contact with this autistic guy, I would not want to 1837 01:40:53.800 --> 01:40:56.319 interview him alone. I would definitely need back. 1838 01:40:56.640 --> 01:40:57.720 Let me know, if you get a hold of them 1839 01:40:58.039 --> 01:41:01.319 several people, you get a hold of them, all, I'll come. 1840 01:41:01.600 --> 01:41:04.239 I'll come question the man. I'll talk autism with the guy. 1841 01:41:04.279 --> 01:41:09.600 You know, Yeah, you are not autistic, are you? 1842 01:41:10.560 --> 01:41:13.640 I don't I've never been testing. My son is extremely definite. 1843 01:41:13.640 --> 01:41:14.520 He's definitely autistic. 1844 01:41:14.560 --> 01:41:20.760 But you know, I've mentioned to Colby before because like 1845 01:41:20.800 --> 01:41:22.880 we've done shows together, and I'll be like, the way 1846 01:41:22.960 --> 01:41:27.199 JJ can recall information, you know, maybe you are autistic. 1847 01:41:27.279 --> 01:41:30.600 I don't know, dude, Like I can't remember ship the way. 1848 01:41:30.439 --> 01:41:34.119 You can my son's got me? My my son's got 1849 01:41:34.199 --> 01:41:36.960 me beat you know, he's a he he was diagnosed, 1850 01:41:36.960 --> 01:41:38.800 so they never sent me to a doctor. I'm just saying, 1851 01:41:38.800 --> 01:41:40.720 like he and I operate on the same wavelength. 1852 01:41:41.520 --> 01:41:43.800 No for sure, Like I have to have notes. I 1853 01:41:43.880 --> 01:41:46.600 have to, you know, go back because I'll forget ship 1854 01:41:46.760 --> 01:41:48.720 and like be trying to go off my memory and 1855 01:41:48.720 --> 01:41:51.239 I can't remember shit. But some of the stuff that 1856 01:41:51.319 --> 01:41:53.199 you bring up, I'm like, how the fuck does he 1857 01:41:53.319 --> 01:41:57.119 remember all this? It's like verbatim quotes and like places 1858 01:41:57.159 --> 01:41:58.680 and like stuff in history. 1859 01:41:59.319 --> 01:42:02.880 But we'll do some autism and autism with the Jeffrey 1860 01:42:02.880 --> 01:42:03.600 Den Turner sometime. 1861 01:42:05.039 --> 01:42:09.159 I wouldn't I wouldn't have it any other way. Yeah, 1862 01:42:09.680 --> 01:42:13.119 you have to be there, but no, thanks for having 1863 01:42:13.119 --> 01:42:14.800 me on though, you guys. I think this was a 1864 01:42:14.840 --> 01:42:15.920 really cool episode. 1865 01:42:16.000 --> 01:42:19.079 Definitely, definitely, No, for. 1866 01:42:19.000 --> 01:42:20.800 Sure, I had a great time. I got one question 1867 01:42:21.000 --> 01:42:23.720 for you, Julia. So you know, not necessarily a Laurel Canyon, 1868 01:42:23.960 --> 01:42:27.479 you know band, but obviously not really Hollywood band either, 1869 01:42:27.760 --> 01:42:30.159 for you know, la see at all really, but Leonard Skinnered. 1870 01:42:30.199 --> 01:42:33.359 They saying Tuesday's Gone in nineteen seventy three and they're 1871 01:42:33.399 --> 01:42:36.479 playing crashes in nineteen seventy seven. What are your thoughts on? 1872 01:42:37.079 --> 01:42:44.520 Oh shit, yeah, I totally forgot about that. 1873 01:42:45.760 --> 01:42:48.560 Ka Family my favorite band. That's my favorite band. I 1874 01:42:48.560 --> 01:42:49.000 can't forget. 1875 01:42:49.079 --> 01:42:52.439 I love skinnerd Oh my god, it's like one of 1876 01:42:52.439 --> 01:42:53.319 my favees. 1877 01:42:54.359 --> 01:42:58.600 Geez. August nineteen seventy three, the jam Tuesday's gone. August 1878 01:42:58.680 --> 01:43:02.600 nineteen seventy seven, the band was gone. Well excellent. 1879 01:43:03.399 --> 01:43:08.520 If anybody told my well, I think I've actually talked 1880 01:43:08.560 --> 01:43:10.640 to Dick about this before. But if anybody's followed my 1881 01:43:10.680 --> 01:43:13.600 show for a while, they know that I've put together 1882 01:43:13.640 --> 01:43:16.520 all these like weird things that happened in August or 1883 01:43:16.680 --> 01:43:20.680 around eights and stuff like Marilyn Monroe died in August. 1884 01:43:21.319 --> 01:43:25.640 Tuesday Weld was born in August. Apparently they came out 1885 01:43:25.640 --> 01:43:28.159 with this song in August and then died what August 1886 01:43:28.239 --> 01:43:28.920 the next year. 1887 01:43:30.039 --> 01:43:34.960 Yeah, the October seventy seven is when Skinners August, which 1888 01:43:35.399 --> 01:43:37.399 it claimed most of the band. I think all but 1889 01:43:37.479 --> 01:43:40.720 three three members. I think we're all well killed there. 1890 01:43:41.319 --> 01:43:43.199 Yeah, dude, I mean I think it's weird. Did the 1891 01:43:43.239 --> 01:43:45.319 song Did you say the song came out in August? 1892 01:43:46.119 --> 01:43:47.960 Yeah, August the seventy three, I believe it was. 1893 01:43:48.079 --> 01:43:52.640 Okay, Yeah, So I mean there's just we have this August. 1894 01:43:52.279 --> 01:43:55.399 August thirteenth, that was August ninth. Was August the ninth 1895 01:43:55.399 --> 01:43:58.039 of the the tenth, tenth, and eleventh I think were 1896 01:43:58.039 --> 01:43:59.840 the Manson murders. Right, is that is that right August 1897 01:44:00.079 --> 01:44:00.600 to the eleventh. 1898 01:44:01.600 --> 01:44:06.199 It's always August nineteen sixty nine, it's always August. If 1899 01:44:06.600 --> 01:44:10.960 people look and they see, like if you even google 1900 01:44:11.039 --> 01:44:14.840 like tragedies that happened in August, celebrities that died in August, 1901 01:44:14.960 --> 01:44:18.039 it's like, it's astounding the amount of stuff that that 1902 01:44:18.159 --> 01:44:22.720 has went down that seems super ritualistic to me in August, 1903 01:44:22.800 --> 01:44:27.279 liked when did Buddy When did the Buddy Holly plane 1904 01:44:27.319 --> 01:44:28.439 go down? Was that August? 1905 01:44:29.319 --> 01:44:29.359 No? 1906 01:44:29.520 --> 01:44:30.920 I think that was February. 1907 01:44:31.239 --> 01:44:38.479 February, Okay, I had a whole list of these August things. 1908 01:44:38.560 --> 01:44:40.560 I wish I had that list still so I could 1909 01:44:40.600 --> 01:44:41.560 tell you some of the stuff. 1910 01:44:41.600 --> 01:44:44.319 But oh, there's a lot of Zudio stuff popping off 1911 01:44:44.399 --> 01:44:46.600 along with Man's and stuff right in August that same year. 1912 01:44:46.680 --> 01:44:50.359 Right, Yeah, yeah, I think John Bennet was born in August. 1913 01:44:51.680 --> 01:44:54.520 You know, just the more you look for it, you'll 1914 01:44:54.560 --> 01:44:57.560 find it. And it used to not be significant to me, 1915 01:44:57.760 --> 01:45:00.199 but then the more I started looking into it's like, oh, 1916 01:45:00.279 --> 01:45:04.159 another August, another August, another August, and so it's kind 1917 01:45:04.159 --> 01:45:04.920 of mean something. 1918 01:45:05.800 --> 01:45:08.119 Given these cult folks we're talking about in their affinity 1919 01:45:08.239 --> 01:45:11.600 for the Star Sirius, this ancient alien cargo cult systems 1920 01:45:11.600 --> 01:45:13.640 these people all subscribe to and their affinity for the 1921 01:45:13.720 --> 01:45:17.079 Star system serious or dog Star? Is this going on 1922 01:45:17.199 --> 01:45:19.239 during the dog days of summer? What you're describing it 1923 01:45:19.239 --> 01:45:20.000 sounds like it is? 1924 01:45:20.439 --> 01:45:24.079 It is, Yeah, because I wanted to look further into it. 1925 01:45:24.159 --> 01:45:26.119 I don't want to tangent too hard. But you know 1926 01:45:26.239 --> 01:45:30.800 Santos Binacci, right and his Holy Science, and you know 1927 01:45:30.840 --> 01:45:32.359 the zodiacting. 1928 01:45:32.239 --> 01:45:36.239 And I'm not familiar with this guy, but next Nixon he's. 1929 01:45:36.039 --> 01:45:36.560 A cool guy. 1930 01:45:36.760 --> 01:45:36.920 Yeah. 1931 01:45:37.199 --> 01:45:38.880 It actually follows me on Instagram. I was like, what 1932 01:45:38.920 --> 01:45:39.159 the fuck. 1933 01:45:39.199 --> 01:45:44.760 Okay, he's a big astrologer, he has. 1934 01:45:45.119 --> 01:45:46.319 I think he's done some great work. 1935 01:45:46.359 --> 01:45:47.680 I just think he's getting a little old and a 1936 01:45:47.680 --> 01:45:49.279 little fried out at this point, that's all. 1937 01:45:49.520 --> 01:45:49.720 Yeah. 1938 01:45:51.359 --> 01:45:53.640 I think he's done the same presentation so many times. 1939 01:45:53.720 --> 01:45:55.880 He's he's kind of burned himself out on it. But 1940 01:45:56.680 --> 01:45:59.359 the information is still really cool. And he talks about 1941 01:45:59.399 --> 01:46:03.399 the Dog Day, the serious dog days of summer, and 1942 01:46:03.479 --> 01:46:07.039 he talks about significant things happening during that time because 1943 01:46:07.039 --> 01:46:09.600 it's under the sign of Leo and the sun worship, 1944 01:46:10.359 --> 01:46:13.960 and most of these cults and a lot of religions 1945 01:46:14.000 --> 01:46:17.880 are based off of sun worship. I think Catholicism is 1946 01:46:17.920 --> 01:46:20.880 one of the most guilty parties of sun worship. But 1947 01:46:22.600 --> 01:46:26.079 you know, August is Leo, it's the it's the Sun, 1948 01:46:27.000 --> 01:46:30.720 and it's also the dog days, the serious days. So 1949 01:46:31.039 --> 01:46:34.840 it's literally like multiple things at one time during that 1950 01:46:34.880 --> 01:46:35.600 part of the year. 1951 01:46:36.319 --> 01:46:39.880 So Cargo cultis love sirious, all of them, the more 1952 01:46:40.239 --> 01:46:43.560 the process, all the Rosicrucians, the Masons, they all love serious. 1953 01:46:44.039 --> 01:46:50.079 Yes, yes, the Uh. The civilization that built go Beckley 1954 01:46:50.119 --> 01:46:53.439 Tepe built it in alignment with serious. It's anciently old. 1955 01:46:54.079 --> 01:46:59.079 The ancient civilization that built Gig and Tea it's on Malta, 1956 01:46:59.319 --> 01:47:03.000 they built it in alignment with the Star. Serious. If 1957 01:47:03.039 --> 01:47:06.880 you look at the Truman Show even there are several 1958 01:47:07.279 --> 01:47:11.239 mentions to Siious in the Truman Show with Jim Carrey 1959 01:47:11.920 --> 01:47:16.600 and also Jim Carrey the mask. It's a it's a 1960 01:47:16.640 --> 01:47:21.319 story about Serious and Loki. So I mean it's ever 1961 01:47:21.760 --> 01:47:26.880 you look for the mask. Yeah, the yeah, the folkal 1962 01:47:26.920 --> 01:47:31.600 are behind the mask. The real mask is about Loki 1963 01:47:31.800 --> 01:47:36.399 and dog Star. Serious. So if you look for it, 1964 01:47:36.560 --> 01:47:44.039 serious symbology is everywhere. It is everywhere, and it's sin. 1965 01:47:44.119 --> 01:47:46.479 Like eighties are better than serious? What does that mean? 1966 01:47:48.359 --> 01:47:50.640 What somebody says that? 1967 01:47:51.000 --> 01:47:53.000 Well, I just wonder because that's who founded the town 1968 01:47:53.039 --> 01:47:58.800 of Moscow, Idaho. Was this Plates Club? Yeah? Yeah, they 1969 01:47:58.840 --> 01:48:01.840 started the university there, the wife of the first president 1970 01:48:01.880 --> 01:48:06.079 and six wives of six administrators or teachers. They were 1971 01:48:06.119 --> 01:48:10.000 seven sisters of Plates. There's Plates Club. That's seems to 1972 01:48:10.039 --> 01:48:11.800 be some cult origins of that town. I just I 1973 01:48:11.800 --> 01:48:14.199 don't know enough about Plates. I don't know enough about Stars. 1974 01:48:14.399 --> 01:48:17.000 I don't believe in him. Nazi's describing to me Instea 1975 01:48:17.079 --> 01:48:19.279 did kid diddlers, and I don't believe in anything either 1976 01:48:19.319 --> 01:48:19.840 one of those. 1977 01:48:19.720 --> 01:48:22.439 Parties say, well, they seem to believe in it. That's 1978 01:48:22.479 --> 01:48:24.720 what I care about. I want to know why. I 1979 01:48:24.760 --> 01:48:25.880 want to know why something. 1980 01:48:25.880 --> 01:48:27.720 I'm just saying, I don't believe in what they're describing 1981 01:48:27.720 --> 01:48:30.239 it as, right, Like, I'm sure there's something right, some 1982 01:48:30.479 --> 01:48:32.439 kind of affecting there is. 1983 01:48:33.359 --> 01:48:35.520 This is a cult you can look into JJ. It's 1984 01:48:35.560 --> 01:48:41.279 called the the Order of the Solar Temple. They were 1985 01:48:41.319 --> 01:48:46.199 also I think they were dog stars, serious followers. 1986 01:48:45.840 --> 01:48:48.159 You know, what's you know, it's funny. That just reminded me. 1987 01:48:48.319 --> 01:48:50.720 No, Lie, I recorded part in one of a two 1988 01:48:50.720 --> 01:48:53.640 part series or that with Thresh and Mike probably eight months. 1989 01:48:53.479 --> 01:48:55.439 Ago and never about the Solar Temple. 1990 01:48:55.520 --> 01:48:58.159 Yeah, we never got to part two yet. I totally forgot. 1991 01:48:58.319 --> 01:49:00.720 Oh my god, it's so yeah. 1992 01:49:00.800 --> 01:49:04.399 Yeah, it is wild latantly cult. It's blatantly a cult. 1993 01:49:04.399 --> 01:49:05.319 They didn't hide anything. 1994 01:49:05.960 --> 01:49:09.159 They burned places down, killed people. There was multiple suicides 1995 01:49:09.239 --> 01:49:11.079 choreographed in different countries. 1996 01:49:12.119 --> 01:49:16.960 In Switzerland and France. And they also took all of 1997 01:49:17.000 --> 01:49:22.000 their inspiration from Alice Bailey, who was at the Yeah. 1998 01:49:22.159 --> 01:49:25.840 Yeah, seem to go back to theosophy. 1999 01:49:25.520 --> 01:49:28.640 Alice with the New Age ideals. 2000 01:49:28.880 --> 01:49:31.399 Yeah, I like the way you. Wikipedia describes this cult 2001 01:49:31.640 --> 01:49:35.920 variously described as a esoteric new religious movement, a neo 2002 01:49:35.920 --> 01:49:40.560 Templar group, a Rosic Crucian organization, a doomsday or suicide cult, 2003 01:49:40.600 --> 01:49:43.680 a new magical movement, a magical esoteric religion, or a 2004 01:49:43.720 --> 01:49:47.560 secret society, among many other descriptors. These people there, they 2005 01:49:47.600 --> 01:49:49.119 got a lot of skill sets. They are pretty prolific. 2006 01:49:49.199 --> 01:49:52.079 I like, I like this call dude JJ. The body 2007 01:49:52.159 --> 01:49:56.199 count is seventy four for this town. Yeah. 2008 01:49:56.239 --> 01:49:58.920 Again, that's multiple countries I think are involved, Like possibly 2009 01:49:58.960 --> 01:50:01.079 yeah too, at least I think. 2010 01:50:00.920 --> 01:50:05.199 They talking to Jim Jones situation. These are independent activities 2011 01:50:05.199 --> 01:50:05.760 of seventy four. 2012 01:50:06.079 --> 01:50:09.279 They're independent and it spanned over three years of death. 2013 01:50:09.359 --> 01:50:11.680 Good lord, Yes, you. 2014 01:50:11.680 --> 01:50:14.760 Got to look into him. Man, They're they're fucking balls 2015 01:50:14.800 --> 01:50:16.840 to the wall nuts, so crazy. 2016 01:50:17.119 --> 01:50:18.960 I definitely will. Nick's been telling about him too, for sure, 2017 01:50:18.960 --> 01:50:22.279 I'll definitely look into him. Thank you. Yeah, I see 2018 01:50:22.319 --> 01:50:25.479 the serious worship there too. Yeah. Ye yes, it's always 2019 01:50:25.520 --> 01:50:27.640 serious always. 2020 01:50:30.800 --> 01:50:32.560 But yeah, no, guys, this was a good one. 2021 01:50:32.760 --> 01:50:33.880 Yeah, for sure. 2022 01:50:33.920 --> 01:50:34.920 That's what mind blowing to me. 2023 01:50:37.479 --> 01:50:39.159 I've been looking forward to talking Tuesday Well and I 2024 01:50:39.199 --> 01:50:41.279 appreciated Julia that I, you know, had an opportunity to 2025 01:50:41.880 --> 01:50:44.399 share some Tuesday Well thoughts with you here today. Hell yeah, 2026 01:50:44.520 --> 01:50:46.039 let me let me know if you get ahold of 2027 01:50:46.039 --> 01:50:47.439 that autistic fell I'll be happy to help. 2028 01:50:48.159 --> 01:50:50.880 I will let I'll let you know if I get 2029 01:50:50.920 --> 01:50:52.960 you know what the most mind blowing part of this 2030 01:50:53.039 --> 01:50:56.840 show for me was cross dressing Donald Trump. 2031 01:50:56.920 --> 01:50:59.680 I think there you go. 2032 01:51:01.560 --> 01:51:05.960 A hunter nightmares from now on. Cross dressing Trump on 2033 01:51:06.000 --> 01:51:06.359 a leash. 2034 01:51:07.000 --> 01:51:12.560 Yeah, that's so crazy to me. David Burka WIT's in 2035 01:51:12.600 --> 01:51:13.880 the background. 2036 01:51:13.680 --> 01:51:19.399 Yeah, yep, parting it up, all coked out. 2037 01:51:21.119 --> 01:51:24.079 On all the place, just each other. 2038 01:51:26.880 --> 01:51:28.159 We don't know if he was there. We don't know 2039 01:51:28.159 --> 01:51:28.800 if he's Oh. 2040 01:51:28.800 --> 01:51:35.640 He was there, come on, and he's just pumping, oh yeah, 2041 01:51:36.640 --> 01:51:38.279 singing his number one hit, My Dangling. 2042 01:51:40.560 --> 01:51:42.640 It's a real song. It's a real song. He was 2043 01:51:42.640 --> 01:51:43.800 the number one hit for him. 2044 01:51:44.479 --> 01:51:49.159 Oh god, no way. Maybe we should do Maybe we 2045 01:51:49.199 --> 01:51:51.000 should do the next one on Chuck Berry. 2046 01:51:51.880 --> 01:51:56.000 Maybe you might actually find some decent stuff in that. 2047 01:51:57.000 --> 01:52:01.880 I'm telling you. Nobody tabloid article, right, nobody gets out 2048 01:52:01.920 --> 01:52:08.319 of the place touching my Dangling. 2049 01:52:11.479 --> 01:52:14.199 I appreciate your all time today with the Tuesday Wells 2050 01:52:14.239 --> 01:52:15.159 conversation for sure. 2051 01:52:15.479 --> 01:52:20.439 Any of the folks in the interwebs, all right, you're good, 2052 01:52:20.520 --> 01:52:21.159 We're done. 2053 01:52:22.479 --> 01:52:25.920 Ytty closing savements. You gotta closing thoughts there? 2054 01:52:26.479 --> 01:52:29.960 Uh no, not really no, I thought it was really good. 2055 01:52:30.000 --> 01:52:31.760 Like again, I feel bad I didn't have anything to add, 2056 01:52:31.800 --> 01:52:34.039 but I mean, there was just this is just interesting, 2057 01:52:34.159 --> 01:52:37.640 so many different things that they connected to. I even like, 2058 01:52:37.720 --> 01:52:39.520 not to bring it back up, but even starting to follow. 2059 01:52:39.600 --> 01:52:41.760 Like I was thinking for a while at these plane crashes, 2060 01:52:42.199 --> 01:52:45.279 like there's even something like that's like this man, Yeah, 2061 01:52:45.319 --> 01:52:47.640 plane crashes. Rfk, you have plane clashes to those guys 2062 01:52:47.640 --> 01:52:50.159 who are for La Bamba. I mean, it's all these people. 2063 01:52:50.199 --> 01:52:52.960 It's like, why are we using planes? Should knocking people off? 2064 01:52:53.720 --> 01:52:57.359 Yeah, I mean I did a plane crash episode if 2065 01:52:57.359 --> 01:52:58.880 you guys want me to talk about it sometimes. But 2066 01:52:58.920 --> 01:53:00.039 Alia is a crazy one. O. 2067 01:53:00.079 --> 01:53:02.199 Yeah, I might actually be interested on that. That was something. 2068 01:53:02.479 --> 01:53:04.560 Oh god, I'm sorry, I'm hijacking the show now, but 2069 01:53:04.640 --> 01:53:07.239 real quick, I think it inspired me to do this. 2070 01:53:07.399 --> 01:53:09.319 I started. I did a couple of shows where I 2071 01:53:09.359 --> 01:53:12.840 covered the seventeenth of every month and weird stuff that 2072 01:53:12.880 --> 01:53:15.680 happened on that, and there was one there was a 2073 01:53:15.680 --> 01:53:17.000 few times where. 2074 01:53:16.960 --> 01:53:20.359 Plane crashes were huge. I'm okay, what is up with 2075 01:53:20.439 --> 01:53:23.079 plane crashes on the date of the seventeenth. 2076 01:53:23.159 --> 01:53:30.560 Cause it's an eight. That's that's the dog star. Yeah serious, 2077 01:53:30.680 --> 01:53:31.840 the infinity symbol. 2078 01:53:32.560 --> 01:53:37.479 Seriously serious, all right, that's what I appreciate. The operation 2079 01:53:37.600 --> 01:53:40.039 GCD take Over again I wasn't going to have this conversation, 2080 01:53:40.439 --> 01:53:43.159 not on occult rejects when when we're all you know, 2081 01:53:43.159 --> 01:53:46.840 when Julian I Recult Rejects, we spawned this whole show 2082 01:53:46.840 --> 01:53:49.159 off of last week's The Cult Elvis Show, which I 2083 01:53:49.159 --> 01:53:50.760 can't I highly recommend folks check out. 2084 01:53:50.880 --> 01:53:55.479 Yes next week, all right, next week, yeah, yes, all right. 2085 01:53:55.479 --> 01:53:57.079 I guess we'll wrap it up here. And h yo, 2086 01:53:57.520 --> 01:53:59.439 the chat was off the hook. Thank you everybody in 2087 01:53:59.439 --> 01:54:01.359 the chat. That's what's up. I tried to pay attention 2088 01:54:01.399 --> 01:54:03.600 and throw up a lot of your comments. Uh so, 2089 01:54:03.680 --> 01:54:04.920 thank you all again, and thank you Tyr. 2090 01:54:05.039 --> 01:54:07.199 That's what's up. You're the best. And that's the end 2091 01:54:07.239 --> 01:54:09.119 of another Cult regex until the next one. 2092 01:54:09.520 --> 01:54:10.159 Where do you do well? 2093 01:54:14.920 --> 01:54:17.920 Bar bar b b b. 2094 01:54:20.039 --> 01:54:29.279 B b b Bob bar bare you got me rock 2095 01:54:29.840 --> 01:54:36.880 roll rob bob Bob Baran went to a dance looking 2096 01:54:36.960 --> 01:54:40.760 for him man sab Barbaran. So I I take a chang. 2097 01:54:41.520 --> 01:54:54.760 Bomb you got me roll bo bob ba ba Bob 2098 01:54:54.920 --> 01:54:55.560 bar Bara. 2099 01:54:56.159 --> 01:54:57.000 Ba ba b. 2100 01:55:02.560 --> 01:55:09.359 Bob Barber and you gotta be rocking in a rolling 2101 01:55:09.640 --> 01:55:10.199 rocking in 2102 01:55:10.319 --> 01:55:12.960 A barber and Bob bath bottom