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Speaker 1: One, two, one, two, three four, Hello everybody, and welcome

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back to the Shirley You Can't Be Serious Podcasts. Are

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you guys ready?

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Speaker 2: I'm ready.

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Speaker 1: It feels so good to be here with mister Jeff Johnson.

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I am all fired up. I got my salt and

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a little lick a lime. Whether you want to love

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her or a friend, we have the tools to satisfy

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ladies and gentlemen. Welcome back to the Shirley You Can't

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Be Serious podcast where after three long years, we are

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finally tackling Van Halen again. Hi you going, Jeff.

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Speaker 2: It is going great, guys. Thank you for having me.

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I always appreciate any opportunity I get to talk music.

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Most of the time it's always movies or TV, but

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I love talking music, so I appreciate especially one of

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my all time favorite bands. Jeff.

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Speaker 3: Tell us a little bit about the Film By podcast.

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Speaker 2: As far as what we do at a Film by podcast,

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me and Brad Kozo, my co host, We basically wax

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intellectual about our favorite directors, their underrated hits, and what

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we love about them. Kind of started us off, and

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then we kind of led into a couple smaller limited

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series that we had some fun with nineteen eighty six,

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we covered a lot of fun movies. Obviously you guys

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were a part of that. We're in the middle of

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nineteen seventy six, you know which D joined me for

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the very first episode when we covered Outlaw Josie Well,

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so I was a fan. We thank you D. We

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like to have we like to have a good conversation

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about movies and the directors that we that we we appreciate.

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Speaker 1: So we are here today to talk about Van Halen's

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OU eight one two. It was their second album with

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singer mister Sammy Hagar, came out in nineteen eighty eight.

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This is a part of our Summer of eighty eight

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series and comparing it to Cinderella's album Long Cold Winter.

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Jason picked both of these and I'm happy about your

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picks man. Thank you boys, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: These albums were both huge for me the summer of

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nineteen eighty eight. This is actually going to conclude our

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deep dive into the Summer of nineteen eighty eight. Released

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May twenty fourth, nineteen eighty eight, so right about the

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same time as Cinderella. I think that was the first

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week in July, so I think It's a perfect matchup.

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I'm excited to dive into this with you guys. Jeff,

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what did this album mean to you?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 2: I was introduced to van Halen. I want to said.

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The first time I ever heard van Halen was third grade.

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A group of kids at a talent show at my

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elementary school were doing jump and they were sixth graders.

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just was like, these guys are awesome. I didn't understand

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that this wasn't really van Halen, but fell in love

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with the band, love their music. I was one of

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the people, you know, when Dave left and Sammy shows

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up for fifty one to fifty, I was like, Okay,

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this is different and I still love it. So this,

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being their second one was Sammy. I feel like this

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one kind of solidified that Sammy was here to say

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he could handle the job, and we had van Halen again.

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Speaker 3: What about you, Dee? What do you think?

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Speaker 1: This one is another album that I didn't own. Both

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of these albums were albums I didn't own. An eighty

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eight I think I've kind of mentioned before. Eighty eight

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the music from the seventies, and so I wasn't buying

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a whole lot of albums in eighty eight. I think

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the last new album that I bought in eighty eight

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was Boisome. So I got introduced to some songs that

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I hadn't heard before when I listened to this album,

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and I'm excited to talk about awesome.

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Speaker 3: So this is the summer I turned fifteen. I'm not

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quite driving yet, but music is very important to me.

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It's the time of my life where I carried cassettes

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around just in case somebody had a boombox, right, And

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so I know I bought this album within a week

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of its release date. I don't think I bought it

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day of, but within a week. I mean when I

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heard When It's Love, I'm like, Mom, can you take

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Speaker 1: I talked to Arlen, friend of the show. He called

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me right before we started recording and I told him

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what we were doing, and I said, who were comparing

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it to? And he said he can remember Long Cold

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put Long Cold Winter In and the Amp Caught on Fire. Wow,

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he said had these albums wrapped around him in nineteen

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eighty eight. They were both big movers and shakers for

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him back then. But just to give you a tip

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of the hat for him, he picks van Halen over

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Speaker 3: Okay, interesting, Arlen's got good taste.

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Speaker 1: He always sides with you as well as as a

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Speaker 3: We will see very shortly.

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Speaker 1: Okay. So guys, if you are sort of new to

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the Shirley Podcast, this group is one that we've covered before.

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I think this was like our fourth episode. We had

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a three part episode on this deal. We talked all

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kinds of h So if you're interested in the deep

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dive of van Halen history, go back to our van

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Halen versus Van Hagar parts one, two, three, and four

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and check that out. We had a great time because

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we loved this band so much. But just to sum up,

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Alex van Halen was born in nineteen fifty three. Eddie

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van Halen was born in nineteen fifty five, and in

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November of that year, Marty McFly accidentally invented rock and

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roll music and the rest history real. Briefly, they formed

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a band. Eddie had initially wanted to play the drums,

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but then Alex took over that job. Eddie bought a guitar.

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let's let's see if that guy who owns his own

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PA system wants to sing for us. So they had

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that singer for a little while, actually had him longer

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than the PA system because it eventually broke down again.

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Michael Anthony and that's how he joined the band, and

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then they met Gene Simmons. Things didn't work out, but

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eventually they did produce their first album under their name,

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which their singer had suggested they use their own name

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for the band, and that was Van Halen, and they

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actually had a guy that they wanted to come sing

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for the band. The producers, the managers of the band

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had this guy that they wanted to come sing for

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the band because the singer that they had was a

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little iffy, and he turned him down. It was a

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lead singer from a band called Montrose, a guy named

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Sammy Hagar, and he's like, nah, I don't think I'm

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interested in doing that. Well, Sammy Hagar ends up getting

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together with these guys a few years later when that

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sketchy singer that they have finally fades out, and what

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album called fifty one fifty, which has an entirely new sound.

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about today, is called Oh You eight one two.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So you're exactly right. When the previous singer whose

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name shall not be mentioned in this episode, right because

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we don't want to be a comparison episode. But when

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he left there was a vacancy obviously. And Eddie's a

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car guy, Sammy's a car guy. Their cars in the shop.

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and he's there and Eddie says, whose car is that?

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That Ferrari right there? He says Sammy Hagar. He's just

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completed his Boa tour where he had the big hit

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song I Can't Drive fifty five, And he said, why

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don't you call him up? He's available. You need a singer,

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He's a solo guy. Why don't you call him. Sammy

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had just finished his tour. Eddie calls him up and says, hey,

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let's jam. Maybe you can join vn Haleen. Same, He's like, dude,

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call you back. And so ultimately they got together. When

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they met up, Sammy said the studio looked like a

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bar that had never been cleaned before in like thirty years.

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and pizza boxes. And he said they were both just

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drunk as skunks. And then when they started to play,

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magic happened. And so he said, if these guys can

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play this well when they're this hammered, I mean, these

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guys are just truly gifted musicians. Ultimately, Sammy joins Van Halen.

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Of course, he goes on to make fifty one to fifty,

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which I absolutely love. But the price for Sammy to

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leave Geffen Records at the time, he was Geffen's biggest

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artist at that moment, and so the price for him

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was he had to come up with a solo album,

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which a lot of people forget. Sammy Hagar dropped the

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solo album between fifty one to fifteen, oh UA one

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two called I Never Said Goodbye, and it actually had

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called Eagles Fly. Right after Sammy finished his tour pushing

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his solo album, the Brothers, Van Halen had been working

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on tunes. He flies back home and immediately they pick

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and he said magic came through the speakers that day,

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o UA one two comes out. It's May twenty fourth,

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the timeline here. Okay, they are recording through April of

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thing has no video. It drops May twenty fourth. Then

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they go onto the Monsters of Rock Tour May twenty seventh,

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instant touring starting May of nineteen eighty eight. On that

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a little issue with the controversy around the name because

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Monsters of Rock. But it's kind of weird. You look

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Docin has resurged with their Dream Warriors song and everyone

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started today because I know he went to the Monsters

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So Blaine, I'm mad at you, But he has told

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me about that before. I think he and just a

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few buddies just scrounged together some money drove down to

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Dallas and he got separated at the concert and had

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a really hard time getting back to the hotel. Because

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Speaker 3: The original working title.

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Speaker 1: Is bone Bone, Bone Bone Terrible. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Alex van Halen thought so as well.

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before called Eat Him and Smile. He was not happy

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him after he left, and so in an interview, he

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eat him and smile. So that became his album, and

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a lot of people think that the album title that

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they ultimately came up with was a response to that title,

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but I think they have denied that.

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Speaker 2: I've actually got something interesting on that story. So Sammy

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claims that he got the idea when he saw it

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on a delivery truck on the freeway. It was a

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you know, on the panel truck. He got a laugh

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out of it and thought, yeah, that's that's great. But

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I decided to prepare because you guys are famous for

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going down the rabbit hole, the deep dive. So I've

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got something I'm gonna try, and I'm gonna try and

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blow your mind with a little bit more on the

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U eight one two title bring it? How about this?

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In nineteen EIGHTYU eight one two was that actually the

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license plate on the stolen red Ferrari in a film

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called Cheach and Chong's Next Movie. Do you guys ever

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see that one? Remember that one?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 3: It's steal the car at the.

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Speaker 2: I definitely was not, but uh, in my years, I

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was now it goes a little bit further here, Cheaching

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Chong's next movie. That's the feature film debut of a

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character that Paul Rubins creates. Talking about Pee Wee Herman

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are everyone assumes that Pee Wee's big adventure is like, Hey,

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this is the first time we see pee on the

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big screen. It's not. And if you watch Cheach and

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Chong's next movie, you know a lot of a lot

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of the action takes place at the comedy store in

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l A and Pee Wee Herman is one of the comedians.

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He also plays the desk clerk at the hotel where

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Chiach and Chong are staying. So yeah, it was not yeah,

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he had some uh yeah, not his first time doing

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the desk clerk. But I got a kick out of that,

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you know, I think.

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Speaker 3: I think is awesome. You blew my mind with that

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one man.

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Speaker 1: That's fantastic.

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Speaker 2: And I'll go one more. And I can't really confirm this. Allegedly,

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if you go back to the first season of Taxi,

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they're actually the first episode of Taxi was all about

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the payphone, where it was given free phone calls away.

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If you take a look at that pay phone, the

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concrete cinder wall Payphon's on you'll see amongst the graffiti,

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OU eight one two is written on the concrete. I

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watched that episode and I was trying to pinpoint it,

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but you know, it's not not exactly four K, so

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I didn't really I couldn't really see it. But and

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I didn't have time to watch the entire run of

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all taxi shows to see where it was lested. But

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apparently you can see.

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Speaker 3: It there too, Thanks job man. Nice mind blown. I tried.

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Speaker 2: I tried so.

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Speaker 3: By the way, when OU eight one two was released,

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this is the second out of four straight number one

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albums by Van Halen. Fifty one to fifty was their

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first album hit number one. OA one two hits number

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one in June of eighty eight, stays there for four weeks,

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ultimately sells four million copies in the US.

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Speaker 1: Okay, guys, before we jump into the album, let's talk

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about the cover real quick.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the black cover, the white faces.

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Speaker 1: Very reminiscent of the Beatles first album called With the Beatles.

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We kind of we had a text thread that we

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were sending all kinds of album covers at the same

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style of black and white, you know, deeply shadowed sides

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of the face.

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Speaker 3: That was a pretty funny text threat because I just

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sent a picture of it, and then I sent the

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Kiss Dynasty album, and then I sent the Beatles with

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the Beatles album, and then you replied back with get

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the Knack, and then Jeff replied back with the Cramps.

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It was there was no words exchange, just pictures of albums.

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Speaker 2: I remember walking down the down the road and I

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see that I started seeing the text chain go off,

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no frame of reference, no no words. After like the

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third ones like I know what we're doing here, I

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was like, I can play this. Let me pull up

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the We pull up the Googoup guys, the Cramps. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: This album was dedicated to Alex and Eddie's dad, Jan

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van Halen, who had passed away just in December of

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eighty six, little less than a year before they started

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the recording process on this album. He was a musician.

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He was the one that had initially introduced them to music.

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He played with the band on the cruise liner that

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they came to America on and they got to get

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up on stage and play piano and were the hit

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of the show.

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Speaker 3: They literally played for their supper on the way over

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from the Netherlands to the US. Yep, can I try

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to blow your mind one more time? So she brought

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up their father. Yeah, so van Halen is not for anything.

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They're all about family, right.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people don't really know this, but their

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father actually played on the Diver Down album. Wow. So

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yeah he played. He played clarinet for one of the songs,

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technically making him the third of four van Halen men

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to be in the lineup. Everyone just assumes you got

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the brothers and you got Wolfgang.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Actually dad was there on Diver Down, so wow, that's cool. Okay,

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are you guys ready to dive in? Track by track?

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I know you want to.

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Speaker 2: I am all fired up, all right, I'm not really

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wired right now, man.

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Speaker 3: Okay. First song out of the Gate is a song

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called Mine All Mine.

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Speaker 1: Okay. So, if you've just bought this album for the

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first time and you push play and you're listening, you're

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suddenly confused because the tracks on the album listed in

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alphabetical order instead of the order of the songs on

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the album, and so you're like, wait a minute, this

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doesn't sound like the right song. You're right, it's not.

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This one is called mine, all mine, And it was

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actually the last one that Sam he recorded the vocals did.

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Speaker 2: Why is that?

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Speaker 1: Because he was going nuts trying to write this song.

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It's like he said, this was one of the hardest

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songs he ever had to write the lyrics to. Kind

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of got mad through things through the window, just went

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crazy trying to get the right lyrics to this song.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he said, he wrote it and rewrote it like

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ten different times. Said his first time in his life

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that he really struggled with the lyrics, beat himself up

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about it, said he took him ten torturous days, during

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which time he had a bad hangover and private vocal

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training session with Don Landy. When he finally brought the

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song to the Van Halen Brothers, he said he was

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very insecure about it and when he hit play, they

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went ef Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Man, So you you mentioned Landy on this one. He

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was their engineer, He did the recording. There's not a

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producer listed on this album.

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Speaker 3: I think the fact that they don't have a producer

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on this album actually hurts it a little bit. You know.

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We talked about how Andy Johns recorded the f uc

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K album with him and gave them that Cinderella type

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of direction on that album. So when you've got guys

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just kind of calling their own shots, I think you

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end up with some highs and lows in quality on

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this particular album.

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Speaker 2: You run the risk of getting a little sloppy. Absolutely,

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Mine All Mine.

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Speaker 3: This song Mine All Mine is Sammy Hagar's favorite Van

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Halen song. Wow, just I that surprises me. Maybe not

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favorite is the best word. I did see that. I

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think maybe proudest moment lyrically for him.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that I could that I could see. I'll tell

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you one thing I would love to hear. If there

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is is a world's biggest Van Hanlen fan, it happens

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to be my best friend and co host at a

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film by podcast Brad Kozo. I told Brad I was

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gonna be on here. He was obviously just you know, envy, jealousy.

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You know, He's like, what your talk? I was like, hey, man,

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I got I got the call. So we were talking

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about the tracks and he goes, Man, he goes, I

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would love to hear the original version of mine online.

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And I was like, what are you talking about? And

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he's like, there is a much heavier version that exists

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that's never been released. I was like, well, where is

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it at? And he goes, well, let's it's locked away

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in Alex van Hanleen's vault. I guess, you know, maybe

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someday they'll release it on a remaster or something like that.

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But you know, we were talking about the monsters of

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rock Tour and how they aren't like a heavy metal group,

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but and especially with Hagar, they get you know, with

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Hagar they got a little softer like the music, you know,

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the ballads, the ballads starts showing up. So anytime you

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get an opportunity to think, like there's a heavier version

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of a of a Hagar van Halen song, I would

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love to hear it.

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Speaker 1: The drums, I mean the start of the song, the

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drums coming in that lends itself to a heavier, thrashier

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metal if you will. I thought it was a great

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intro to the album. The song itself is not one

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that wowed me, but I thought just the intro to

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the song was a great way to jump in. Give

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it good hard beat right out of the gate. I

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thought that was a nice touch. Would you guys think

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of the song?

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Speaker 2: I think it's middle of the road.

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Speaker 3: I think it's good particularly on this album. There are

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great songs, there are not great songs, and very few

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kind of in the middle. But I think this one's

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good but not great.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna agree with the great music in

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this one. I don't know that it really tells a story,

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though the lyrics I can. I can understand why he

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rewrote it seven or ten times. The lyrics are kind

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of a little all over the place. I don't really

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follow it, you know what I mean. So, yeah, I

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would say middle of the road. It's It's not a

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bad way to open the album. I would have picked

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a different song to open the album, which we'll get

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to in a couple tracks, but overall, I still like it.

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Speaker 1: My alle.

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Speaker 3: Okay guys onto song number two. This song is called

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when It's Left.

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Speaker 1: So this one jumps out at me. And the thing

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that interestingly jumps out at me first is this really

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cool echo effect that happens throughout the song. It's like

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this slap back click that I don't think I've ever

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heard on any other song. And I'm fascinated by how

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this beautiful song is enhanced by this little raspy click,

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like the click of a piano key or the click

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of a drum rim. I'm not sure what it is.

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I tried to figure it out. I tried to find it.

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I can't. I can't figure out what it is, but

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I love it. And then you're talking about that, Yes,

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that is what I am talking just making sure we're

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at the same page.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I knew what he was talking about. I could

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hear it in my head.

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Speaker 1: And then when they come in with the harmonies on

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this song, there's a reason that this is one of

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the top power ballads of all time. It's too beautiful

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to turn it down.

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Speaker 3: When you talk about radio friendly hits for Van Haler,

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I mean, this is ought to be the first one

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that comes out of your mouth. It's a pinnacle right

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for radio friendly hits for them. Absolutely yeah. This is

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like a warm Snickers bar. I mean it just it

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just is so easy on the soul. When I hear

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this one, it's just beautiful, goes really well together. Love

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Sammy's vocals just before melts right before it is too melty.

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Speaker 1: Yes, well, the chocolate's still there, but the caramel center

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is nicest pretty yeah. Yeah. So this song, this song

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started as a piano and drums combination. Eddie gave it

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this guitar riff that he says is a nod to

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Eric Clapman, and this is not his speed solo style.

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This is more like slowhand, very beautiful, slow melodic Eddie

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van hand.

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Speaker 2: I absolutely adore this song. It is one of the

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greatest power ballads ever written. Minunderstanding is it's the first

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song written for the album. When they heard that piano

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and drum when he played it, they're like, you know.

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Sammy immediately was like, you know, he he's known for

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when he doesn't have lyrics, just just humming. And he said,

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I just heard it in my head. Just how do

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00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,000
I know when it's love? And I just started singing it.

476
00:24:58,039 --> 00:25:00,599
And before we got to this udio, it was done.

477
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:01,960
It was a done deal. We knew it. We had

478
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:02,839
it ready to go.

479
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 3: This is the song that they played in the car

480
00:25:05,759 --> 00:25:07,920
when they picked him up from the airport. He said, hey,

481
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,839
listen to this. This is what we've been working on.

482
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,119
What do you think they pop it in? You have

483
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,519
that little tune that they played for him and the

484
00:25:14,599 --> 00:25:15,559
lyrics just fell out.

485
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,640
Speaker 2: They pick him up at the airport, they say, hey man,

486
00:25:17,759 --> 00:25:19,960
we got to play something for you. We kind of

487
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,440
stayed up all night doing this, and he jokingly takes offense.

488
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,680
He's like, you guys started without me, I mean in

489
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,880
the studio yet, But he fell in love with what

490
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,200
he heard, just like the rest of us. It's such

491
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:30,960
a beautiful song.

492
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 3: Second single released June of nineteen eighty eight. This is

493
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:38,400
the first video with Sammy and the band No videos

494
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,880
from fifty one to fifty the first single from this

495
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,359
album gets no video treatment, which I found out the

496
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,359
reason why you know why, No told me Warner Brothers

497
00:25:46,559 --> 00:25:50,000
didn't like to pay for music videos mistake, but they

498
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,559
got on the train with this album because they realized

499
00:25:52,599 --> 00:25:55,759
what a juggernaut. MTV was a little late to the party.

500
00:25:55,799 --> 00:25:57,839
This is nineteen eighty eight, you know, it was already

501
00:25:57,839 --> 00:26:00,119
a juggernaut in eighty three. They didn't like to pay

502
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,599
for music videos, but they decided, hey, we want to

503
00:26:02,599 --> 00:26:05,119
move records this time, and so they upped the enny

504
00:26:05,319 --> 00:26:09,519
and paid for this music video. Now then it's performance based.

505
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,599
I think it's really cool. Sammy is wearing a red suit,

506
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,880
and as we know, he is known as the red Rocker,

507
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:21,000
the red Rocker, yeah, red rocker, so also in the

508
00:26:21,079 --> 00:26:23,880
music video, it's pretty cool. You do have Eddie playing

509
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,920
that slow solo and he does one of his standard

510
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,079
moves where he hits a note and then he kind

511
00:26:29,079 --> 00:26:31,119
of wiggles his hair and then goes back to it

512
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:36,319
and Sammy does this little squeal, but they actually get

513
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,000
Eddie lip syncing that squeal. It's kind of a neat

514
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,440
little trick in the music video.

515
00:26:40,519 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 2: Now, as I say, you mentioned, this is you know,

516
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,839
one of the one of the first singles. This is

517
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,039
number five out of all the four singles they do,

518
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:47,920
this is the one that ranks the highest number five

519
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,319
on the Billboard Hot one hundred.

520
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,799
Speaker 3: Do you want to hear the four better songs I

521
00:26:53,519 --> 00:26:54,680
do off Ball Live?

522
00:26:55,759 --> 00:26:58,759
Speaker 2: I don't know what was listen. I'm a fan of

523
00:26:58,799 --> 00:27:00,880
the show. I know I know JA and goes with

524
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,519
the openings. Yeah, I want to know what's better? What

525
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,039
four options are better than when it's love? Because I'm

526
00:27:07,519 --> 00:27:08,519
I'm ready to fight on them.

527
00:27:08,559 --> 00:27:11,839
Speaker 3: Okay, so this reaches number five, as you said, September

528
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,920
tenth of nineteen eighty eight, here we go, number four

529
00:27:15,319 --> 00:27:16,640
Monkey by George Michael.

530
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:17,839
Speaker 1: That's interesting.

531
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, Kelly, yeah, really, okay, all right, I like

532
00:27:25,079 --> 00:27:27,279
that song. I'm a big fan of the Faith album.

533
00:27:27,519 --> 00:27:29,720
I don't think this is that's a better song than

534
00:27:29,759 --> 00:27:31,480
when it's Love Not a Chance?

535
00:27:31,799 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 1: Okay.

536
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 3: Number three Perfect World by Huey Lewis and The News.

537
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 2: I don't even remember that one.

538
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: I love Huey Lewis and the News, but that song

539
00:27:41,039 --> 00:27:42,200
is not better than the song.

540
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 3: Number two Simply Irresistible by Robert Palmer.

541
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,839
Speaker 2: Okay, now that's a big one. It's a huge song.

542
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 3: You've got the girls in the swimsuit and I'm playing

543
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,200
the instruments behind him and they kind of upped it

544
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,559
from the Addicted to Love video. And then finally number

545
00:27:57,559 --> 00:27:59,799
one Sweet Child of Mine.

546
00:28:00,319 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 2: Ah, Okay, huge.

547
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,559
Speaker 3: Song summer of nineteen eighty eight and continues to be

548
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:05,680
a classic.

549
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 2: Can I can see that?

550
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 3: Okay, one more thing on the video. Sammy does not

551
00:28:10,319 --> 00:28:12,839
see himself as an actor. He doesn't like acting and

552
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,599
he doesn't like lip sync, like that is not his thing.

553
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,400
So he doesn't like the lip sync. So when he

554
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,799
does these music videos, he just belts out the lyrics right,

555
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,839
he belts out the words and he just sings. Well.

556
00:28:25,039 --> 00:28:28,119
When he was recording this video, he sang so strong

557
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,039
that he blew out his voice and they had to

558
00:28:30,079 --> 00:28:32,920
actually cancel a concert that they had set up.

559
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,039
Speaker 2: Suffering for your art, but maybe a little too much.

560
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, So this was the second single released from the album.

561
00:28:38,359 --> 00:28:41,599
The B side for this one was Cabo Wabo, which

562
00:28:41,599 --> 00:28:44,400
we'll talk about here in just a second. Yep. But

563
00:28:44,759 --> 00:28:47,079
I mean that's a worthy song to have on your

564
00:28:47,079 --> 00:28:47,480
B side.

565
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 2: I can't believe that was on the e that's surprising

566
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:51,440
that that's a B side.

567
00:28:51,559 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: It didn't get released as a single, So I mean

568
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,759
that's the next best thing, right, Yeah, that's so smart.

569
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 3: Okay. Song number three, This song is called a f

570
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,400
U Naturally wired.

571
00:29:38,519 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: All right, very up tempo drum beat and then guitar

572
00:29:42,119 --> 00:29:44,319
comes in. Now I don't I don't think I mentioned this,

573
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,240
but I'm pretty sure this is the transition album where

574
00:29:47,319 --> 00:29:50,559
Eddie starts to go to the earning ball guitars. This song,

575
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,359
it sounds to me like he picked up the old

576
00:29:52,359 --> 00:29:55,799
Frankenstratt again and started going at it with a more

577
00:29:56,079 --> 00:29:59,880
raw feel on the guitar sound on this one throw

578
00:30:00,119 --> 00:30:03,599
back to Van Halen's earlier days. What did you guys think?

579
00:30:03,759 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 2: I think you're absolutely right. I have to believe that

580
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,160
this is this is the Franken Drug because like it.

581
00:30:08,319 --> 00:30:10,599
It just it just sounds like classic van Halen when

582
00:30:10,599 --> 00:30:12,839
he when that guitar comes in. I love this song.

583
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,720
Every band has what they call the road song, you know,

584
00:30:16,759 --> 00:30:19,200
like Metallica has Wherever I'm a Room, Beastie Boys have

585
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,440
No Sleep till Brooklyn. This is the road song for

586
00:30:21,519 --> 00:30:23,440
van Halen. Sammy loved it so much that this is

587
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,079
the opener for the Ou eight one Tour eight one

588
00:30:26,119 --> 00:30:29,039
two tour, So I think it's fantastic.

589
00:30:29,519 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 3: This is a great concert kickoff song.

590
00:30:32,359 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I might call it the eight one tour as

591
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,119
an absolute miss. They should have called it the eight

592
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:39,599
one tour.

593
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, by the way, when I say that this

594
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,079
is a great concert opener, which clearly they agreed with me,

595
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,160
they closed the Monsters of Rock shows with this song.

596
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,160
They ended the night with af You and rock and

597
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:54,200
Roll by led Zeppelin.

598
00:30:54,279 --> 00:30:58,839
Speaker 2: That's a good yeah, absolutely yes.

599
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,079
Speaker 1: But that is a throwback to the first time that

600
00:31:11,119 --> 00:31:14,319
they performed together during farm Aid. First time that Sammy

601
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,839
plays with them, they play that led Zeppelin song because

602
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,160
they literally they haven't played together before, and so that's

603
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:22,759
right Zeppelin song that they played.

604
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 3: That's right. How about this little Nugget on this song.

605
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,680
On the album, they have a guest appearance by Patty

606
00:31:29,799 --> 00:31:33,440
Smythe from a scandal and maybe you know her from

607
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,880
the Warrior of Goodbye to You.

608
00:31:36,279 --> 00:31:39,799
Speaker 1: Well. You mentioned in our earlier van Halen episodes when

609
00:31:39,799 --> 00:31:42,559
they were trying to decide who will be the replacement

610
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,640
singer for He who shall not be named, Patty Smythe

611
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:46,759
was top on the list.

612
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 3: Eddie van Halen wanted Patty Smythe as their replacement singer.

613
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:52,759
And she's got a great voice.

614
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, great voice.

615
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 3: But that takes them a totally different direction.

616
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,079
Speaker 2: I'm glad we didn't go down that road, honestly.

617
00:31:59,279 --> 00:31:59,839
Speaker 1: Yeah.

618
00:31:59,759 --> 00:32:03,759
Speaker 3: While I was preparing for this episode, I read Sammy's

619
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:08,839
book called Red. During the time of this album, Sammy's wife,

620
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,559
her name is Betsy, She had some really crazy mental

621
00:32:12,599 --> 00:32:15,880
issues and I just found this story kind of interesting.

622
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,960
I want to drop it right here. During this time,

623
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,279
they would go back and forth to Cabos and Lucas, Mexico.

624
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,799
One time, when they were flying back from Mexico, her

625
00:32:23,839 --> 00:32:26,720
anxiety was off the chart and she started to freak out.

626
00:32:26,759 --> 00:32:28,839
At twenty six thousand feet. She started to pull her

627
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,480
own hair out and at twenty six thousand feet she

628
00:32:31,559 --> 00:32:35,599
starts screaming and tries to open the door and jump out.

629
00:32:35,799 --> 00:32:39,720
Oh so this is kind of what is going on

630
00:32:39,799 --> 00:32:42,920
with him during this time. I mean, he's transitioned, he's

631
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,720
in a fantastic rock band and there got the number

632
00:32:45,759 --> 00:32:48,880
one album in America, and his wife is going.

633
00:32:48,799 --> 00:32:52,039
Speaker 2: As This song was actually inspired by a very bad

634
00:32:52,079 --> 00:32:56,279
show they had. There was a stage fire, the attendance

635
00:32:56,359 --> 00:32:59,960
was over capacity. So when you listen to the lyrics

636
00:33:00,039 --> 00:33:02,599
say kind of you know, there's a little bit of

637
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,480
that interjected into it, which you know, a lot of

638
00:33:05,519 --> 00:33:08,119
people I've always wondered, is that real? Is it not real?

639
00:33:08,559 --> 00:33:10,160
Why would they do that? But when you have a

640
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,160
bad show that inspires a hit song like this, that's

641
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,759
why you have crazy stipulations like that in your contract.

642
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,839
Speaker 3: Tell us about that eminem stipulation.

643
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,759
Speaker 2: Oh well, for those who don't remember. So, you know,

644
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,000
every celebrity, every band always has some crazy stuff that

645
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,759
they want, whether it's like I have to have this

646
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,440
very specific brand of paper towels, you know, or you know,

647
00:33:30,519 --> 00:33:32,759
this is our dietary needs, or here's the sound check

648
00:33:32,839 --> 00:33:34,640
that we want, here's the lighting that we want. Van

649
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:39,119
Halen put it in their contract that a bowl of

650
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,920
Eminem's must be in the green room, the dressing room,

651
00:33:42,039 --> 00:33:44,920
and there cannot be a single brown eminem And they

652
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,759
said that was kind of like their thing. He who

653
00:33:47,839 --> 00:33:51,200
must not be named, as he's saying, he was on

654
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,279
a show one time and said, look, we did that

655
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,480
as a detail, as a fine detail, because if we

656
00:33:56,519 --> 00:33:59,440
saw that that wasn't something little like that wasn't taken

657
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,599
care of, something big probably wasn't taken care of, and

658
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,359
then we would stop everything, and then triple check all

659
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,359
the lists and go through and stop everything because it

660
00:34:07,359 --> 00:34:09,360
was in their contract. If that happened, they could walk

661
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,800
away and the promoter would have lost hundreds of thousands

662
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,239
of dollars, you know, maybe millions. So you think you

663
00:34:14,519 --> 00:34:16,639
hear stories like that, you think, man, that's just rockstars

664
00:34:16,679 --> 00:34:20,199
being crazy and foolish. But for Van Halen, it's it's

665
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,400
a it's a very small minor detail that they snuck

666
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,400
in there just to see is this guy reading everything

667
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,440
that we're asking for before he signs on the dotted line.

668
00:34:28,519 --> 00:34:30,039
So I think it's I think it's brilliant.

669
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, crazy like a fox, right mm hmm, Okay, we

670
00:34:34,039 --> 00:34:36,440
done with this one, all right. Next song on the

671
00:34:36,480 --> 00:35:00,559
album is a song called Cabo Wabbo.

672
00:34:52,519 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 1: A Better Wrong. Okay, So this big, warm guitar that

673
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,079
you're hearing is not the Frankenstrat. This is that Ernie Ball.

674
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:31,000
This is that different sound. This is that round, fuzzy,

675
00:35:31,679 --> 00:35:34,920
totally different style. But I just eat it up on

676
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,320
this song. Love how he comes in on this one.

677
00:35:37,519 --> 00:35:39,960
They had finished with the music already by the time

678
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,559
they hook up with Sammy because obviously the solo tour

679
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,280
that he had gone on, so they had finished with

680
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,280
the music and he went away to go work on

681
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,840
the lyrics, and the place that he went was Abo,

682
00:35:50,920 --> 00:36:11,280
San Lucas, and so that's where he got the lyrics

683
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:15,639
for this. But the melody actually comes from a song

684
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,639
that he had when he was with Montrose called make

685
00:36:18,679 --> 00:36:42,360
It Last seventeen. My father told me, so, he's not

686
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:43,800
even trying to hide this.

687
00:36:44,599 --> 00:36:48,599
Speaker 3: He's not right, total thievery right.

688
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 2: Jason, If you're stealing from yourself, it can't be theft, right,

689
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:55,679
So good boy.

690
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got to give a little shout out to

691
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,920
Sammy Hagar at this point. Okay, So Jason and I

692
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,320
are both from Oklahoma, we were both living here in

693
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:07,119
nineteen ninety nine. In May third, nineteen ninety nine, we

694
00:37:07,199 --> 00:37:11,639
had some of the worst tornadoes in Oklahoma history passed

695
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,440
just a couple of miles north of where we lived

696
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:20,320
at the time, and Toby Keith did a benefit concert

697
00:37:20,599 --> 00:37:23,519
at the ou Stadium. I went to that concert with

698
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,719
my wife. Toby Keith obviously played. Willie Nelson came out

699
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,119
and played, a lady who became our very dear friend

700
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:35,400
named Kelly Coffee, who was a big country singer at

701
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:40,199
the time. She played, and then Sammy Freakin Hagar came out.

702
00:37:40,639 --> 00:37:43,159
Mister Red Rocker himself came out, and he was such

703
00:37:43,199 --> 00:37:46,719
an incredibly fun guy that even all these people, these

704
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:50,679
country folks who showed up for country music absolutely ate

705
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,840
it up. He was shooting off like these confetti cannons

706
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,119
and having a great time. And one of the best

707
00:37:56,159 --> 00:37:58,760
parts of the show was him playing this song.

708
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,639
Speaker 3: That's awesome man that I love what he is selling

709
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:07,599
on this song. This is like Jimmy Buffett meets Van Hand, right.

710
00:38:08,039 --> 00:38:11,920
This is about having a great time on vacation at

711
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:41,280
the beach. White Sandro make a tan look nice, right, Yeah.

712
00:38:40,599 --> 00:38:42,519
Speaker 2: This is the party song. This is this is like

713
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,840
everyone's having fun. Everyone's having a good time.

714
00:38:45,039 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's seven minutes worth of fun.

715
00:38:48,039 --> 00:38:48,519
Speaker 2: Yeah.

716
00:38:48,639 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 3: This is the longest song on the album and just

717
00:38:50,519 --> 00:38:53,840
kind of meanders around talking about the beach having a

718
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:58,719
good time. Actually, the inspiration for this song Sammy was

719
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,360
down in Comba San Lucas writing lyrics for the album.

720
00:39:01,559 --> 00:39:04,159
He's driving around he's going to breakfast one morning and

721
00:39:04,159 --> 00:39:06,519
it comes around the corner. He almost takes out a

722
00:39:06,639 --> 00:39:10,119
like a pedestrian he's walking across the street who's drunk

723
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,800
as a skunk. And he said to himself, He's like,

724
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:18,239
that guy is doing the Cabo wobble because he's drunk,

725
00:39:18,559 --> 00:39:21,960
And so he shortened that to Cabo Wabbo. And then

726
00:39:22,039 --> 00:39:24,679
of course that goes on to become the name of

727
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,639
his nightclub that he establishes with the Van Halen Brothers

728
00:39:30,079 --> 00:39:33,400
in Cabo San Lucas. And also his tequila, his world

729
00:39:33,519 --> 00:39:34,480
changing tequila.

730
00:39:34,679 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's his, I mean, his wonderful, delicious tequila. Yeah.

731
00:39:40,639 --> 00:39:44,519
References the mescal and the worm and the song, which

732
00:39:44,599 --> 00:39:47,519
then inspires him to start his own tequila company.

733
00:39:47,599 --> 00:39:50,559
Speaker 3: He drinks mescal right from the bottle and the guave

734
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,039
worm is mine all mine.

735
00:39:53,199 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 1: Hey, I got my salt and my little lick a

736
00:39:55,320 --> 00:40:06,840
lime ready to go, hassam.

737
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,639
Speaker 3: Right before you got on with this, Jeff, I was

738
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:17,239
watching on YouTube. MTV ran a contest and I love

739
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,719
mentioning these MTV contests. It's just fun to remember those. Anyway,

740
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,480
they had a contest. Ten winners would have won a

741
00:40:23,519 --> 00:40:26,119
trip to Cava San Lucas and they got to spend

742
00:40:26,599 --> 00:40:29,119
the week down there and get to open the club.

743
00:40:29,159 --> 00:40:31,880
That was April of nineteen ninety. That was the opening

744
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,480
for the Cabo Wabo CANTEENA.

745
00:40:35,679 --> 00:40:37,599
Speaker 2: What an awesome time that would have been.

746
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 3: Wouldn't that have been great?

747
00:40:39,159 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 2: I would have loved it. I've been to Cabo Wabo

748
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:42,920
in Las Vegas.

749
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 3: The oh you have cool.

750
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been there a couple of times.

751
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:46,679
Speaker 1: I have.

752
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 2: I have had one too many surveys, maybe a little

753
00:40:49,039 --> 00:40:51,880
too much tequila there with that place. If you ever

754
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:53,960
in Las Vegas, that is the place to go to.

755
00:40:54,039 --> 00:40:54,079
Speaker 3: It.

756
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,559
Speaker 2: It's a lot of fun. He's known to show up

757
00:40:56,559 --> 00:40:58,960
every now and then and perform a set, so he

758
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,559
didn't he I've not caught him there yet, but you know,

759
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,880
anytime I'm in Vegas, I'm like head Nicabo Wabbo.

760
00:41:04,159 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 3: I love this song. I think it is the second

761
00:41:06,519 --> 00:41:07,639
best song on the album.

762
00:41:07,679 --> 00:41:10,559
Speaker 1: This is definitive, Sammy Hagar to me, right after I

763
00:41:10,599 --> 00:41:13,079
Can't Drive fifty five, this is the next song in

764
00:41:13,079 --> 00:41:14,639
the line that says Sammy Hager, I.

765
00:41:14,679 --> 00:41:16,679
Speaker 2: Agree, curious to see what you're what you're saying is

766
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,480
the first. But I'm with you on that, okay. So

767
00:41:19,519 --> 00:41:20,639
that's the end of side one.

768
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:24,119
Speaker 3: Hit stop on your tape player, kick it out, flip

769
00:41:24,159 --> 00:41:26,920
it over for side too, and the first song on

770
00:41:27,039 --> 00:41:29,719
side two is Source of Infection.

771
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,559
Speaker 1: I me even this song up. This is not the Frankenstrat.

772
00:41:50,559 --> 00:41:52,960
This has got to be the Ernie Ball guitar in

773
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,960
my opinion. I'm just guessing here. But he's playing it

774
00:41:56,119 --> 00:41:59,039
just like he did back in the seventies, with that

775
00:41:59,119 --> 00:42:02,320
brown sound, that finger tapping. I'm loving it. And then

776
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,480
Alex comes in with the drums from Hot for Teacher.

777
00:42:05,599 --> 00:42:09,280
I mean, it's all kinds of yet warm feelings in

778
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:13,000
my tummy about this song. I loved it. And then

779
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:17,159
the lyrics aren't even really lyrics at all. It's just

780
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:21,199
kind of screams from Sammy, like as if to say, hey,

781
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,320
I realize your old singer could do this, I can

782
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:23,760
do it too.

783
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:34,199
Speaker 5: Let me show you what I got.

784
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,639
Speaker 2: I love how this one starts. It's definitely the hot

785
00:42:36,679 --> 00:42:40,360
for teacher drums. Eddie is absolutely shredding on this thing,

786
00:42:40,679 --> 00:42:44,320
and musically it is fantastic. It's weird when you think

787
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,519
about the inspiration behind it, but you know still, I

788
00:42:47,559 --> 00:42:49,360
think it's awesome. Absolutely love this one.

789
00:42:49,559 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 3: Tell us about the inspiration behind this one.

790
00:42:51,519 --> 00:42:54,039
Speaker 2: This is a source of infections, all about Eddie and

791
00:42:54,119 --> 00:42:57,239
Valerie's time in Australia. He actually he got sick, he

792
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,480
got really sick. He got the dinky fever. I'm not

793
00:43:00,519 --> 00:43:03,400
a doctor. I mean I play one on television, but

794
00:43:03,039 --> 00:43:07,119
my understanding is it's a viral disease contracted by mosquitoes

795
00:43:07,159 --> 00:43:11,519
in the tropics, causes sudden fever and acute joint pains.

796
00:43:12,039 --> 00:43:15,280
So to take something like that and turn it into

797
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,480
a song like this is it's wild.

798
00:43:17,679 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: He's been married to Valerie Burtinelli for seven years at

799
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,800
this point. They go down for their anniversary and this

800
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,280
is what happens. But hey, you get a pretty kick

801
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,360
butt song out of it. I don't know what do

802
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,000
you think of this song? Well, I'm I can see

803
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:32,199
the skepticism on your.

804
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,519
Speaker 3: No, no, It's okay. I far be it from me

805
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:38,840
to critique Eddie van Halen on anything musically, But this

806
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:40,960
is one of those songs where I think a producer,

807
00:43:41,039 --> 00:43:43,360
a strong producer, would be like, all right, guys, this

808
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:44,719
is a lot of fun. You guys are kind of

809
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:48,800
screwing around. But this is just you guys screwing around

810
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,159
in the studio. This seems a little bit sloppy for me.

811
00:43:51,679 --> 00:43:55,400
It's not a skipper, but they can do better. You

812
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,239
know who agrees with you, Eddie and Sammy.

813
00:43:58,039 --> 00:44:01,159
Speaker 2: Eddie and Sammy. This is Sammy's least favorite. They regret

814
00:44:01,199 --> 00:44:05,119
the whole James Brown spoofing that they were doing with

815
00:44:05,199 --> 00:44:09,280
the owls and the hey and you know, you look

816
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,280
at the lyrics though, the ones where he's not like

817
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,880
be bopping and scatting. It's a little politically incorrect and

818
00:44:15,639 --> 00:44:18,400
because of that, they're, you know, in retrospect, they're not

819
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,079
happy with it. Yeah.

820
00:44:21,199 --> 00:44:23,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do like the beginning of the song. And

821
00:44:23,199 --> 00:44:26,960
you have the very audible take one, and it seems

822
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,039
to me like this song was recorded in one take.

823
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:30,639
Speaker 2: I think this is then going you know what we

824
00:44:30,639 --> 00:44:32,639
could do whatever we want. We're Van Halen.

825
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 1: I think you guys are off base. This was the

826
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,199
hidden gym for me. This was something I had not

827
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,599
heard before that I was like, ah, all right, this

828
00:44:39,679 --> 00:44:43,119
is fun, this is a throwback. I'm digging it. I

829
00:44:43,199 --> 00:44:46,199
really really enjoyed this song. So I'm sorry. You guys

830
00:44:46,199 --> 00:44:46,679
are just wrong.

831
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 3: Okay, Sammy, you're wrong.

832
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 1: You and Sammy and Eddie all wrong.

833
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:53,119
Speaker 2: All right.

834
00:44:53,159 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 3: Moving on to the next song on the album. This

835
00:44:54,920 --> 00:45:23,559
one is called Feels So Good, another song made for radio.

836
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,599
Speaker 1: This is the most Van Hagar of all of the

837
00:45:26,679 --> 00:45:30,039
Van Hagar songs, in my opinion. You've got the strong synthesizer.

838
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:34,079
I don't dislike it. It is just it is that sound.

839
00:45:34,079 --> 00:45:37,559
It is the sound of the new Van Halo. It's

840
00:45:37,599 --> 00:45:38,199
like the new Coke.

841
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:40,519
Speaker 3: Oh out.

842
00:45:43,519 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 2: Better than New Coke.

843
00:45:44,559 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 4: It is.

844
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 2: It's specifically designed to sound like Genesis. As someone that

845
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,119
loves Phil Collins and Genesis, I love this song.

846
00:45:52,400 --> 00:46:10,079
Speaker 6: It feels so good to hear feel good.

847
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: Do you know that they actually had that as their

848
00:46:13,079 --> 00:46:15,199
name for a brief period of time. They had the

849
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,920
name Genesis as the name of this band back in

850
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:22,000
the mid seventies and they went, Oops, somebody already has that name.

851
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:23,039
I got good music.

852
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:24,159
Speaker 4: Hey.

853
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 3: I love that this is modeled after Genesis because I

854
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:30,079
had to love Phil Collins and Genesis. I love radio

855
00:46:30,119 --> 00:46:33,599
friendly hits with a rock edge to them. This is

856
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,199
right down my wheelhouse. I'm with Jeff. I love this

857
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:36,760
song too.

858
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 2: Roll down the windows, you're on the highway, crank it

859
00:46:39,519 --> 00:46:40,079
up right.

860
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:44,119
Speaker 3: Yes, right after Kaba wobbo. This just makes you feel good. Now.

861
00:46:44,159 --> 00:46:47,960
I know this song has been divisive among Van Halen bands. Okay,

862
00:46:48,679 --> 00:46:53,079
is it a cheesy, radio friendly love song? Yes? Is

863
00:46:53,119 --> 00:47:00,440
it super catchy? Yes? Does it have a killer guitar solo?

864
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:05,039
Yes it does. It has a blistering guitar solo. I absolutely.

865
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,000
I mean people sleep on it, but it is awesome.

866
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:28,679
Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm gonna go ahead and disagree with you there,

867
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,440
because not that I disliked the song at all, loved

868
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:35,679
the song, but the guitar solo performed by ninety percent

869
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,119
of the musicians in the world at that time. Yes,

870
00:47:38,199 --> 00:47:42,199
it would be screeching performed by Eddie van Halen. It's okay,

871
00:47:42,639 --> 00:47:45,360
It's nothing compared to many of his other solos.

872
00:47:45,639 --> 00:47:46,760
Speaker 3: Jeff, he's off his rocker.

873
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 4: Wow.

874
00:47:48,079 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 2: He does not feel so good about this.

875
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: I don't feel so right.

876
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 3: And this was the fourth single off the album. Fourth

877
00:47:55,519 --> 00:47:58,480
and final single reached number thirty five in the Hot

878
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,480
one hundred. I think they may be an ode to

879
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,800
Message in a Bottle by the police.

880
00:48:05,079 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 2: It's gotta be right. I think there's a connection there.

881
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:09,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, Rady Friendly hit love it? So?

882
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:11,800
Speaker 1: Did you did you watch the video on this one?

883
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,320
The director for this one is a guy named Andrew Morahan,

884
00:48:16,199 --> 00:48:18,280
and this was the second video off of this album

885
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,559
that he had directed for him. He also did the

886
00:48:20,639 --> 00:48:23,119
video for Finish What You Started, which we'll talk about

887
00:48:23,119 --> 00:48:25,599
here in just a second. To say, this guy was prolific.

888
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:29,679
This was the fifteenth music video that he had directed

889
00:48:29,679 --> 00:48:33,639
in nineteen eighty eight. Among the others, we have Scritty

890
00:48:33,679 --> 00:48:40,559
Politi and multiple George Michael songs, including Father Figure, Faith,

891
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:42,000
Kissing a Fool.

892
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 2: And Monkey, Oh There It is.

893
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 1: Wow. He was a part of the decision to have

894
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:50,199
George Michael wear that hat.

895
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:52,039
Speaker 2: Oh Wow.

896
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,199
Speaker 3: Okay, moving on to the next song on the album.

897
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,800
This is called Finish What You Started.

898
00:49:24,039 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 1: The question is can Eddie van Halen pick country?

899
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 3: Answer is yes, can Eddie van Halen interrupt sex and

900
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:33,400
come up with a great song.

901
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:38,760
Speaker 1: This, I answer, is my favorite story you told during

902
00:49:39,159 --> 00:49:42,719
part three of our Van Halen Versus Van Hagar episodes,

903
00:49:43,079 --> 00:49:46,199
So please please share the story with us again.

904
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:50,039
Speaker 3: Okay, So here's the story. Eddie and Sammy live next

905
00:49:50,039 --> 00:49:53,400
door to each other, and one night, Sammy is, you know,

906
00:49:53,679 --> 00:49:56,519
feeling frisky, and so he starts to make moves on

907
00:49:56,559 --> 00:50:00,760
his wife, warming her up and getting ready to enjoy

908
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:05,039
a moment with his wife, and some fool is banging

909
00:50:05,039 --> 00:50:08,239
on his back door and he gets up to kind

910
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,400
of look outside. He says dark, looks down. All he

911
00:50:11,679 --> 00:50:14,320
sees is the red light from the cigarette that Eddie

912
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,320
is smoking, and he screams down and he was like,

913
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,039
go away, dude, it's late. And he's like, no, I

914
00:50:20,079 --> 00:50:22,119
got an idea for a song. Come down here. And

915
00:50:22,159 --> 00:50:24,880
he's like, dude, I'm in and I'm doing something right now.

916
00:50:25,119 --> 00:50:28,199
And he's like, no, come on down here. So Eddie

917
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:34,559
quit us interrupt us messes up Sammy's love session. So

918
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,079
Sammy's like, what can I do? He was my best

919
00:50:37,119 --> 00:50:40,679
friend and my songwriting partner. My wife could wait. So

920
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,239
he comes downstairs and her rule was no smoking in

921
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:44,599
the house, so he had to sit on the back

922
00:50:44,639 --> 00:50:51,119
patio bathrobe and that is all hiding the band behind

923
00:50:51,159 --> 00:50:56,360
the bathrobe. Ain't no attention, and they sit down and

924
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,320
they start to compose this song, which Eddie had kind

925
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,880
of come up with the idea of the guitar and

926
00:51:02,159 --> 00:51:06,920
the lyrics come from a interrupted sex session with Sammy

927
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:24,960
and his wife.

928
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:26,159
Speaker 1: Stop interrupt us.

929
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 2: One of my favorite things when when Sammy was talking

930
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,679
about this story. This is two o'clock in the morning

931
00:51:33,679 --> 00:51:36,199
when this happens, and when asked like, how could you

932
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,639
possibly go down and do what you did? Sammy says,

933
00:51:39,679 --> 00:51:42,760
and I quote anytime anybody's got a good song, idea,

934
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,280
or some good dope or some good tequila or some

935
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:51,920
good I will be there. Okay, there it is, I mean.

936
00:51:54,119 --> 00:51:58,199
Speaker 3: Words to live by, right, Sammy is not wanting to

937
00:51:58,199 --> 00:51:59,280
miss out on a good time.

938
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: I guaran.

939
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:05,079
Speaker 3: Did you know? This was the third single. It reached

940
00:52:05,159 --> 00:52:08,840
number thirteen on the charts. Let's talk about the video

941
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:10,880
for this song filmed in black and white. So I

942
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:14,840
saw Sammy interviewed. He said Andy Moorehan's biggest contribution to

943
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,599
the band was bringing in hot girls for the video.

944
00:52:18,159 --> 00:52:21,039
And in this video, there are some eye catching women.

945
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 1: Jason and I had a debate about this. We were

946
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,800
watching the video before we started and I was like,

947
00:52:26,119 --> 00:52:29,719
that's Cary from the Remote Control game show on MTV.

948
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,239
I was like, nah, it just looks like her. I'm like,

949
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,639
that's her, and He's like, well, they did an interview

950
00:52:35,639 --> 00:52:37,320
with her, so I don't really think it's her. I'm like,

951
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:41,880
that's probably how she got the interview, and she was

952
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,599
smoking hot back then. I'm a.

953
00:52:46,079 --> 00:52:57,599
Speaker 2: Man, just start. Cary War is still smoking hot. I

954
00:52:57,599 --> 00:52:59,440
don't know if you've seen her lately. She is still

955
00:52:59,440 --> 00:52:59,960
bringing the heat.

956
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,199
Speaker 3: She was one of the major reasons for me watching

957
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:03,280
Remote Control all the time.

958
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 2: The only reason.

959
00:53:04,079 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 1: Stars As said.

960
00:53:05,679 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 3: It wasn't Colin Twinn and it wasn't that exactly. That's right.

961
00:53:08,599 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 2: No, you know, we talked about Kabo Wabbo being the

962
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,079
party song. I think finish what you started as like,

963
00:53:15,119 --> 00:53:16,760
it's right in that wheelhouse. It's this is one of

964
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,000
the funnest tracks and it appeals to everybody. You know,

965
00:53:19,079 --> 00:53:21,320
it's you know, a little bit acoustic guitar, a little bit,

966
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,800
it's slow, it's fast, it's it's just fun. And the

967
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,320
double entendres that are that are in the song make

968
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:28,880
it fun. I love this song. It's try, it's great.

969
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,760
Speaker 1: This guitar solo, even though it is totally different than

970
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,440
any other Eddy van Halen guitar solo, is a far

971
00:53:34,519 --> 00:53:37,320
better guitar solo than the one you referenced earlier. It

972
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:41,840
is fantastic, it's fun, it's silly, it's country, and it

973
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:42,480
is great.

974
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,159
Speaker 3: I've heard Sammy say that this is actually the real

975
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:45,760
van Halen.

976
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:46,079
Speaker 1: Like it.

977
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 3: You wanted to come and hang out with van Halen

978
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,280
like on a daily basis, this would be more of

979
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,800
what they play. By the way, this song was used

980
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:56,320
as the theme music for a short lived nineteen ninety

981
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,960
sitcom called Sydney, which starred Valerie Burton Elli.

982
00:54:00,639 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 2: Okay, my mind is blown now.

983
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 3: By the way, the rest of the story is Sammy

984
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,719
came back to bed and could not quite generate the

985
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:17,000
same spark that was there earlier. Oh no, come on, baby, baby,

986
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:22,679
you say yes? All right? Moving on to the next song,

987
00:54:23,039 --> 00:54:25,199
the best song in.

988
00:54:25,119 --> 00:54:26,519
Speaker 1: My opinion, whoa?

989
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 2: Okay, whoa.

990
00:54:28,559 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 3: This song is called black and Blue.

991
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:55,159
Speaker 1: What do you guys think this song's about.

992
00:54:57,760 --> 00:54:59,079
Speaker 2: I know exactly what it's about.

993
00:55:01,679 --> 00:55:07,639
Speaker 3: Push it in. You've got the rhythm.

994
00:55:07,679 --> 00:55:13,599
Speaker 1: This is quite as uninterrupted. Yes, this song. I cannot

995
00:55:13,679 --> 00:55:16,760
listen to this song because of our van Hagar episode

996
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:38,880
without thinking about strippers. Jason said, this is the ultimate

997
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:42,079
stripper song and now I can't hear it without going yep.

998
00:55:42,079 --> 00:55:44,159
I can see how this will go, yep, I can.

999
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,960
I can imagine how this part's going. Yep. It's all

1000
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:47,320
that I can.

1001
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 3: This is a total strippers a yeah, and it's a

1002
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:51,480
fantastic strippers.

1003
00:55:51,679 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 2: It is you know, hey, good writers write what you know.

1004
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 1: And this movie.

1005
00:55:56,599 --> 00:55:59,679
Speaker 2: This song comes from Sammy's experience during the fifty one

1006
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:02,840
fifty tour. He literally was black and blue and had

1007
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,159
to abstain for a week because he was he was

1008
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,960
hurting in some tender areas. Do it to me, baby

1009
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:09,679
to where black till it's black and blue. He is

1010
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:13,119
quoted as saying, this is a masterpiece of phrasing in

1011
00:56:13,199 --> 00:56:13,599
this song.

1012
00:56:13,679 --> 00:56:18,079
Speaker 3: In this track, Hey, this song just oozes sex. I

1013
00:56:18,199 --> 00:56:21,639
think Gosha, So for me, this is the best Sammy

1014
00:56:21,639 --> 00:56:25,400
Hagar van Halen song. This is my absolute favorite. It's irresistible.

1015
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,679
It's a turn it up to eleven, top down, turn

1016
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:29,639
it up. But I also think this is the Sammy

1017
00:56:29,639 --> 00:56:33,719
Hagar song that's most like Dave. I could totally see

1018
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:34,840
Dave singing this song.

1019
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 2: This is definitely yeah, I could see that.

1020
00:56:38,079 --> 00:56:38,760
Speaker 1: I don't know who you're.

1021
00:56:38,639 --> 00:56:42,800
Speaker 3: Talking, I say, Dave, I'm sorry, this is this is

1022
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:43,800
his kind of callback.

1023
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:45,559
Speaker 2: Like I can be a little trashy too, I can

1024
00:56:45,599 --> 00:56:47,320
be a little I can be a little wild, canne.

1025
00:56:47,119 --> 00:56:50,039
Speaker 3: A little reached down between his legs, and he's the

1026
00:56:50,079 --> 00:56:52,800
seaback with the best of them, right, with the best

1027
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:57,960
of them. This is the first single release. This reached

1028
00:56:58,039 --> 00:57:00,920
number one on the Rock charts, number thirty four on

1029
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,360
the Hot one hundred. For me, this is the best

1030
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:05,280
song on the album.

1031
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:06,119
Speaker 2: You'll stand by that.

1032
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 3: I'm standing by it. I'm spiking the football. This is

1033
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:10,280
the best song on the album.

1034
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,079
Speaker 2: Okay, I love it, but I can't say it's the

1035
00:57:13,079 --> 00:57:14,000
best song on the album.

1036
00:57:14,079 --> 00:57:18,239
Speaker 1: Okay, agreed, it's good. It's not a tentpole man. It's

1037
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:19,760
maybe a stake, but it's not a.

1038
00:57:19,719 --> 00:57:23,159
Speaker 3: Temp Okay, all right. You know. I saw Sammy talking

1039
00:57:23,239 --> 00:57:25,559
about what it was like being in a band with

1040
00:57:25,599 --> 00:57:29,239
two brothers. He said that they always had the majority

1041
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,360
in the band, right, they always had each other's back

1042
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,159
and they loved each other dearly, but they would fight

1043
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:36,639
like cats and dogs. And when he said they would fight,

1044
00:57:36,719 --> 00:57:39,559
they would actually fist fight. These are, you know, thirty

1045
00:57:39,599 --> 00:57:41,639
and forty year old men. And he said it would

1046
00:57:41,639 --> 00:57:44,440
start like this, Hey, can I have a cigarette? Hey man,

1047
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:47,639
get your own cigarettes? Heymn f you, Oh yeah fu.

1048
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:50,960
And that was it. That's all it took. Fist fight,

1049
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:53,760
he said. When they got really mad, they would yell

1050
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:56,000
at each other in Dutch. And when they were yelling

1051
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:57,960
at each other in Dutch, they said, just got out

1052
00:57:57,960 --> 00:57:59,400
of the way, you know, and just let them go

1053
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:01,440
for it, all right. Next song of the album is

1054
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,559
called Sucker in a three piece.

1055
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 1: So this one is again a throwback to the sound

1056
00:58:18,599 --> 00:58:22,599
of early Van Halen very very much. Show, however, does

1057
00:58:22,639 --> 00:58:24,719
not hit me in the fields the way that the

1058
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:28,480
others do. This one is, it's not. It's probably my

1059
00:58:28,559 --> 00:58:29,639
least favorite song on the album.

1060
00:58:29,719 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 2: It definitely harkens back to the earlier sound. If you

1061
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,440
listen carefully, you're gonna hear the drums from Panama. I

1062
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:36,360
don't love it, but I won't skip it.

1063
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm kind of with the this is This doesn't

1064
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:40,920
quite do it for me. This is the one of

1065
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:43,199
the valleys on the album. For me, now, it's a

1066
00:58:43,239 --> 00:58:46,480
val it's hardcore van Halen and it's fun, I mean,

1067
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:47,920
but not my favorite.

1068
00:58:48,039 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 1: It probably is better live. I think they missed maybe

1069
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:53,039
missed something in the studio when they were recording it.

1070
00:58:53,079 --> 00:58:54,880
I couldn't tell you what it is. I couldn't put

1071
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,360
my finger on it. The song itself is about a

1072
00:58:57,519 --> 00:59:01,039
gold digger woman. They've got a roback on it, though

1073
00:59:01,079 --> 00:59:04,840
they One of the lyrics is nine on a ten scale,

1074
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:08,519
which is an album from Sammy Hagar from like nineteen

1075
00:59:08,559 --> 00:59:09,360
seventy six.

1076
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, I think that's really cool.

1077
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:15,239
Speaker 1: I little rowback there, that's pretty cool. But it doesn't

1078
00:59:15,239 --> 00:59:15,559
save this.

1079
00:59:15,599 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 3: As you like the lyrics. Her legs go straight up

1080
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:19,800
to her lunch pale.

1081
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:24,239
Speaker 2: This is Sammy trying to you know, we talked about

1082
00:59:24,239 --> 00:59:26,320
this with Black and Blue. He can be dirty with

1083
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,400
the rest of them. I could see this being a

1084
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,599
track that they would have played with with the former

1085
00:59:31,639 --> 00:59:43,880
front man based on some of the lyrics. Yeah, it's

1086
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,440
about that goal there. He's writing this song in Kabba

1087
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:48,639
San Lucas the same time he's doing Kaba Wabbo and

1088
00:59:48,679 --> 00:59:51,119
he was at the twin dolphins when he saw what

1089
00:59:51,199 --> 00:59:54,239
he said was a gorgeous, like twenty something year old

1090
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:58,719
girl with a sixty year old, fat, ugly, balding guy,

1091
00:59:59,039 --> 01:00:01,480
and he was like, how how could you possibly think

1092
01:00:01,719 --> 01:00:06,440
she loves you? You know, this guy's a sucker, as they.

1093
01:00:06,159 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 1: Doesn't care if she loves it. Maybe he just thinks

1094
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:15,199
it feels so good. Maybe he just wants to do

1095
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:15,679
it till.

1096
01:00:15,599 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 2: He's black end.

1097
01:00:18,039 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw that story that he saw her pool

1098
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:24,440
side and was knocked over by her beauty, but when

1099
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:27,559
he saw the person she was with, that guy's a sucker. Okay,

1100
01:00:27,719 --> 01:00:30,079
So that actually takes us to the end of the

1101
01:00:30,119 --> 01:00:30,880
cassette tape.

1102
01:00:31,119 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you had the cassette or the vinyl, that

1103
01:00:33,559 --> 01:00:35,280
was the last song that you got to hear. But

1104
01:00:35,639 --> 01:00:37,880
if you got the CD you could get in nineteen

1105
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:41,000
eighty eight. If you got the CD, you've got one

1106
01:00:41,079 --> 01:00:43,960
more song on this one and OnCore if you will,

1107
01:00:44,119 --> 01:00:48,679
a cover of a Little Feat song called a Political

1108
01:00:49,000 --> 01:01:00,880
Luis It's told me it was taming. This song when

1109
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:03,519
it was done by Little Feet, was actually produced by

1110
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:08,239
Ted Templeman and Don Landy, So Don you just had

1111
01:01:08,239 --> 01:01:11,079
to set up the microphones he was ready to go.

1112
01:01:11,119 --> 01:01:13,360
He's like, I got this, guys, I got it. I

1113
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:15,480
feel like listening to this song, I love it, like

1114
01:01:15,519 --> 01:01:17,840
I would love to see them in a club playing

1115
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:21,079
this song. But I also just feel like they could

1116
01:01:21,119 --> 01:01:22,920
have been in a club playing this song. This is

1117
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:26,000
I feel like they're like, hey, let's throw one extra

1118
01:01:26,079 --> 01:01:28,599
song in for the CD since we got a little

1119
01:01:28,599 --> 01:01:31,760
extra time, and they probably did this in one take.

1120
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:34,639
Speaker 3: I agree with that. I think this is a club

1121
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,880
only type of song back in the day when I

1122
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,320
had a cassette player and I had a CD player.

1123
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:44,199
Which do I want? Is a political Blue is worth it? Nope,

1124
01:01:44,679 --> 01:01:47,719
it's just them screwing around. If they did something else

1125
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:50,159
really cool, now, that would have been great, But this

1126
01:01:50,239 --> 01:01:50,639
ain't it.

1127
01:01:51,159 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 2: If there's one skipper on this whole album, this is it.

1128
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:56,599
If it's up to me. Like we talked about Kabba

1129
01:01:56,639 --> 01:01:59,039
Wabo being the fun party, it's probably about twelve thirty

1130
01:01:59,119 --> 01:02:01,079
or one o'clock in the morning that cop when we

1131
01:02:01,079 --> 01:02:04,079
were doing Cobo Wabbo. This song is like three thirty

1132
01:02:04,119 --> 01:02:08,079
four am, when it's there's like four people left in

1133
01:02:08,079 --> 01:02:10,199
the in the bar. I hear this song and I

1134
01:02:10,199 --> 01:02:14,320
immediately see Anthony Michael Hall going you know fats Man,

1135
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:18,239
let me tell you about this girl. I just take

1136
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:20,280
it off of this album, and it's a good It's

1137
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:23,079
a good bluesy song. It's fun, but it's it doesn't

1138
01:02:23,079 --> 01:02:24,360
I don't think he belongs on this album.

1139
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 1: I agree with you.

1140
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,599
Speaker 3: This is the three thirty am. Everybody tip your waitresses,

1141
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,119
be careful of the way home. Thanks for coming out.

1142
01:02:32,119 --> 01:02:32,559
Good night.

1143
01:02:32,719 --> 01:02:35,199
Speaker 1: This is the perfect song for us to transition into

1144
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:38,079
final judgment on these two albums. I feel like this

1145
01:02:38,119 --> 01:02:40,559
could have been a great song, but they dialed it.

1146
01:02:40,519 --> 01:02:44,599
Speaker 3: In well before we three do our final judgment. Let's

1147
01:02:44,639 --> 01:02:48,199
listen to Kevin Davis, who was our guest on Cinderella's

1148
01:02:48,239 --> 01:02:52,760
Long Cold Winter. Let's hear his final judgment between Cinderella's

1149
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:55,800
Long Cold Winner and Van Halen's Oh You eight one,

1150
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:56,360
two albums.

1151
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 4: You're asking me to compare bands, I would have to

1152
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:02,079
say Van Halen is by head and shoulders above Cinderella.

1153
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:05,519
But whenever you put these two albums side by side,

1154
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:09,559
Long Cold Winner is the better quality album, more hits

1155
01:03:09,599 --> 01:03:13,039
to it, more listenability. It's got a song on the

1156
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:18,519
nineteen eighty eight Makeout List, got some other songs that

1157
01:03:19,079 --> 01:03:23,159
are contenders, But You eight one two was not one

1158
01:03:23,239 --> 01:03:26,159
of my favorite band Haleen albums by not even in

1159
01:03:26,199 --> 01:03:30,119
my top five. Any of those top five van Halen

1160
01:03:30,159 --> 01:03:34,079
albums would have blown anything Cinderella could do out. But

1161
01:03:34,159 --> 01:03:36,559
when you compare Long Cold Winner to You eight one two,

1162
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,400
I'm going to give the nod to Long Cold Winner.

1163
01:03:39,639 --> 01:03:42,639
Speaker 1: Well there you go. I mean, the man obviously is

1164
01:03:42,679 --> 01:03:46,079
a van Halen fan who still appreciates that there was

1165
01:03:46,119 --> 01:03:48,719
a better album. Well, I guess I just tipped my hand.

1166
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:52,639
I'll go first on my final judgment on this album.

1167
01:03:53,039 --> 01:03:57,440
This is not the most lopsided comparison that we've ever had,

1168
01:03:57,639 --> 01:04:01,400
but in my opinion, is very lop As I mentioned earlier,

1169
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:03,599
I didn't own either one of these two albums, so

1170
01:04:03,639 --> 01:04:05,519
a lot of these songs I was here were the

1171
01:04:05,519 --> 01:04:11,159
first time. To me, Cinderella got that blues feel right,

1172
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:15,039
where Van Halen missed the vote like they did with

1173
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:19,199
the AA Political Blues. I like Ou eight one two.

1174
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:23,320
I think there are several really good songs on the album.

1175
01:04:23,559 --> 01:04:27,320
It's not the best van Halen album, and it even

1176
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:30,239
as a big van Halen fan, it's not even the

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best Van Hagar album. It's a good album. It's worthy

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of nineteen eighty eight's success for sure. So my opinion

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is that Long Cold Winner is far and away a

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better album of two albums.

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Speaker 3: Jeff, thank you for guesting with us this week. What

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is your opinion between these two albums.

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Speaker 2: The big surprise for me when you asked me to

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join you on this one again. I'm a huge Van

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Halen fan, so I thought, well, this is gonna be fair.

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But when I turned on A Long Hole Winter, it

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blew me away because it had been probably I don't

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know twenty years or more since I had heard it,

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and it is. I think it's the best Cinderella album.

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I mean you start right off with like it's like

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four or five tracks right in a row that are

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just hit after hit after hit. I was loving it,

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and the whole time I'm listening to it, I'm like,

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this might be better than OU eight one too. I

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got it. I gotta be honest here, I gotta I

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gotta look at this so you know, in the end

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it comes down to this for me, Cinderella. There's sound,

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it's it's fantastic, but it actually you know, like like

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the last song on the album Coming Home. When I

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listened to it, I'm coming home to the eighties. It

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is quintessential eighties rock, like big hair rock, and sometimes

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you're in the mood for that, sometimes you're not. Meanwhile,

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OU eight one two, while it might not be the

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greatest Van Helen album, it's still a great album. And

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I don't feel like it's dated in any sense. You know,

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I can hear Kabo Wabbo twenty years ago, I can

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hear it now and it just sound it's a fun

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party song. You know, Jason, you talked, you know, you

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kind of said like it's like a Jimmy Buffett thing.

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So for me, it's a photo finish. But I'm gonna

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stick with van Halen. I'm gonna go OU eight one

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two is the better album, and it's it's such a

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close call because d is right. If you appreciate the

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bluesy sound, turn on Cinderella because they nail it. But

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I think van Halen has more fun. I'm going with

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Van Halen.

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Speaker 3: All right. So it's two to one currently, two for

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Long Cold Winter, one FORU eight one two. Thank you

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for that, Jeff, So for me, I love both these albums.

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These were very important albums to me in nineteen eighty eight.

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It comes down to the fact that on OU eight

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one two you've got peaks and you've got valleys, and

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the peaks are awesome. I love Kabla Albo, and I

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love Black and Blue and when it's love and I

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01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:49,719
love feels so good. The valleys sucker in a three

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01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:54,199
piece source of infection, a political blues. Those peaks are

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lower on OU eight one two than any of the

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peaks on Long Cold Winner. Because of that, I am

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01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:05,559
casting my vote and spiking my football. Long Cold Winter

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is the better of these two albums.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, Arln is going to be shaking his fist.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, Irelen Radio right now.

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Speaker 1: Arln always sides with you, but he called it wrong.

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01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:20,920
Speaker 3: Hey, I love them both, but I gotta call him

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like I see it.

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Speaker 2: I thought for sure you were lining up on the

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Van Halen camp with.

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Speaker 3: Me, Cinderella. Long Cold Winter is a minor.

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Speaker 1: Masteriess lose rock Well, Shirley fans tell us what you think.

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You can catch us at Twitter. You can email us

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01:07:37,039 --> 01:07:39,840
if you are pulling your hair out like you're stuck

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01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:43,360
on a jet at twenty four thousand feet. Because the

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01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:45,280
things that we have said, hit us up and tell

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01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:47,920
us where we got it wrong. We don't mind being corrected.

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01:07:48,679 --> 01:07:50,440
We hope we didn't come across as a bunch of

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01:07:50,519 --> 01:07:57,320
tools on this episode, a bunch of suckers, But tell

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01:07:57,400 --> 01:07:58,960
us what you think. You can catch us on Twitter

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01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:02,559
at Shirley podcast dot com. You can email us Shirleypodcast

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01:08:02,639 --> 01:08:05,280
at gmail dot com, or you can hit us up

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01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:09,320
on Facebook also at Shirley Podcast. Jeff, thank you so

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01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:11,519
much for coming and joining us. Man. I can't wait.

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01:08:11,559 --> 01:08:14,239
We've got an episode coming up again with the a

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01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:17,920
film by Guys where we're going to talk about the

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what the heck happened with a couple of movies.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're talking about Last Action Hero with our good

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01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:26,920
buddy Jeff Johnson of the Film by Podcast, where he

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is going to defend the indefensible.

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Speaker 2: Tip of my hand already for me.

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01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:34,840
Speaker 3: Sorry, no, no, you have.

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01:08:35,119 --> 01:08:37,720
Speaker 2: You have been firing shots for a couple of weeks

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now about about some of those movies. And I'm like,

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you know what, I'll just I'll just wait, I'll state

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01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:47,000
my case when it's time. I'm looking forward to that one.

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01:08:47,039 --> 01:08:49,359
That's gonna be a fun to be it is. Where

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01:08:49,359 --> 01:08:52,159
can we find you man, you can hear a film buy.

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01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:55,600
We're streaming on all the platforms. If you want to

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01:08:55,680 --> 01:09:01,279
check us out on social media, you can hit us Facebook, Twitter, Instagram,

1268
01:09:01,319 --> 01:09:05,840
at a film by podcast, and our website www dot

1269
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:09,279
a film by podcast, and we're on Patreon as well,

1270
01:09:09,399 --> 01:09:11,760
a film by podcast where we have some fun. We're

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01:09:12,159 --> 01:09:17,359
new episodes every Tuesday, and usually bonus episodes usually on

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Fridays and Sundays.

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01:09:18,399 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 3: So all right, everybody catch us next week when we

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got Jeff and Brad back to talk about Last Action Hero,

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01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:26,279
and then I think we're gonna have you back again.

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01:09:26,279 --> 01:09:27,720
We're gonna talk about Alien.

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Speaker 1: Three, an awesome film.

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01:09:31,199 --> 01:09:33,520
Speaker 2: D's d is this face is just all scrunched up.

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01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:36,680
I'll defend I will defend Fincher's Alien three.

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01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:39,119
Speaker 3: Oh wow, that's gonna be fun. We're gonna talk about

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01:09:39,159 --> 01:09:40,880
what the heck happened for those two movies.

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Speaker 1: Thanks everyone, Hi guys