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Speaker 1: This is pet Life Radio, Let's Talk Pets.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Best Bets for Pets. You know so many

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, everyone. I'd like to welcome doctor Evan Zao.

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He is the co founder a Packaging So welcome, doctor Zao.

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Speaker 5: We thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 2: So can you give us a little background on yourself.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, my name's Avin. I'm a scientist by training. I

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use to specialize biotechnology, and for the last four years

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or so, I've been starting companies to create products that

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could help people, so that could really help impact people's lives.

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Around a year and a half ago we started Packaging,

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which focuses on right now, a product that helps with

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reducing the amount of active cat allergens in an area.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so let's talk about cat allergies. I'm allergic to cats,

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but it's more there for and the reason I did

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actually do that allergy test, I guess it's the old

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school one where you have dots that show up on

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your arms. It was a long time ago. Are there

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any other allergy tests?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there's they could do blood work, There's different things

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that they can do try to figure out what you're

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allergic to. But all of them the premise is does

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your immune system react this specific allergen? So they'll take

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a specific allergen from that organism. So whether it's a

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plant or it's an animal and they'll expose you to

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that allergen and then they'll see if you react to it.

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Speaker 2: Why is it that because a lot of people are

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allergic to cats? A friend of mine, her allergy is

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so extreme she's never seen my house and she just can't.

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So why does it seem among us that cat allergies

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are so much more traumatic than other allergies. And mine's

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not too bad. I just get like a wheezy and

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not itchy, but just wheezy because mine stems I think

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from mild asthma. And I think it's I you know,

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I have a lot. I have three of them, so

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that's a lot, but it's it's dealable, as I say.

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But some of people can't even go in a home

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where a cat, you know, even cats outdoors and they

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can't even still can't even come into the home. Why

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are cat allergies so extreme?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? So alas in general, they are your body's way

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of protecting itself from potential toxins, and naturally it's used

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to try to rid yourself, for example, viruses or bacteria

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that are trying to enter your body. If you think

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about allergies symptoms, right, so like the you know, you know,

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teary eyes, stuff, he knows, coughing, wheezing, right, trying, it's

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trying to get whatever is in your body out of

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your body, rights, trying to block the passages, trying to

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get it out. And you know, unfortunately, allergies to animals

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or allergies to plants, these are your body's immune system

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mistakenly recognizing something from that organism that it now thinks

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is a dangerous thing that it actually isn't a dangerous thing.

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Cat ouralogies are especially dangerous because there is one specific

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allergen from that cat. It's called it's called Feldy one.

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It's an extremely stable allergen, which means it doesn't really

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get broken down, so it stays around forever. So you

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probably have friends visited a house that had a cat

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like ten years ago, and they still have the same reaction.

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And this thing, you know, sticks around forever. The cat

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releases it constantly, and it mostly releases it through its saliva,

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but sometimes it sweats it out. And what you're referring

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to is on the standard or it's fur. It actually

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the cat actually licks itself, so the allergen will attach

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to its fur. It'll attached to its standard and that's

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how it spreads. Otherwise, allergens are really tiny proteins. They

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can't actually spread through the air, so they need to

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attach itself to something. And the dander is just what

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it attaches to. But it actually stems from a cat's

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saliva and it needs to basically latch onto something to

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do so. And unfortunately for us, the cats do lick

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themselves frequently and so the dander just is able to

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get everywhere. They're perfect sources of transportation for the allergen.

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Speaker 2: They sure are. What is that called?

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Speaker 5: It was it LD one LD one, so it's like

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feline f e l D one.

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Speaker 2: And appropriately named. And yes, cats are groomers. I think

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I bathed Dennis twice. He's my long hair Maine coonish

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kind of cat. He didn't like it, but the other

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cats I'd be clawed to pieces if I tried to

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even just try that. But with bathing your cat make

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a difference.

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Speaker 5: One hundred percent. Your goal is to try to get

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rid of this allergen, and in almost all cases, an

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allergen is a protein, and one really effective way is

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to bathe the cat showered a cat. Unfortunately, again, you know,

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it's easy to do that with dogs, and dogs don't

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lick themselves as much as cats, and so for cats,

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you have this really really stable protein, stable allergen. They

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like licking themselves and they don't like being bathed, So

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you have this trifecta of things that makes it really dangerous.

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There are other biological issues why felty one specifically is

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a very good allergen, but it has to do with

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how it activates your immune system. And it's just a

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very unlucky circumstance.

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Speaker 2: So how does this fealti one last even if a

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cat was in the home like years ago? Here's an

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example that came in my head, floated in my head.

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If you buy a house and there were cat owners

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maybe I don't know that lived in the home, not

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their rec and cellar, but the seller, you know, the

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owner before, not the reason owner that's solding the house,

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but the one before. Or is a cat with Could

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that affect someone?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? One hundred percent? Wow, Yeah, there are cases of

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ten years, twenty years, and it's just it just so

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happens to be an extremely stable protein. It's just something

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that like lasts a very long time and everything, you know,

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everything degrades constantly, but this one degrades very very slowly,

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and so unless you are constantly exposing the house to

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very high temperatures, very high moisture, or other crazy conditions, yeah,

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that protein is probably gonna stay there. You know, it's

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not going to all stay there. But for example, I

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don't know what the actual numbers would be, but you

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might have still like twenty percent of the amount of

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allergen that was in a house ten years later. It's

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a portion of it, but that twenty percent could still

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set off your allergies. That twenty percent could still give

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you really hard time.

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Speaker 2: Wow, And why are some of us so sensitive to

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certain things to foudy one or you know, even other

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things that affect our allergies and some of us are

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just not bothered too much. So like, for example, I

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can stand being with my cats, but I get that wheezy,

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you know feeling, which is related to allergies. My friend

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can't even bother come in. She would be itchy, blowing up. Whatever.

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Is it just that people's bodies react differently or is

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it just I mean that will obviously people's bodies react differently,

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But is it just the chemical makeup of each person

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makes the change. Or how does this work.

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Speaker 5: Of course, the way that your body secures itself is

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through these bodyguard cells. So your body's made up of cells.

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There are specific kinds of cells that are like bodyguards

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that are trying to prevent people from get into a club.

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think of them as like, you know, these mostly bodyguards.

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They have little scanners, and the scanners basically scan everything

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that's trying to get through, and they've only let certain

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things through. Other things, they'll overreact and they'll have this

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I know you can imagine instead of like you know,

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just punching the thing and you're trying to make sure

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it's out of the club, it will randomly combust and

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set off a set of allergic reactions to make sure

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this thing definitely doesn't get in. That's your body's natural

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immune system. The scanners themselves were obtained in a previous instance,

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to have been exposed to this allergen at some point previously.

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a child, different things, and so every person has different

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sets of the little scanners that the bodyguards are holding.

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earlier and your body, your bodyguards picked up those scanners

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in which it said, oh, if I see a cat allergien,

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I'm gonna overreact. I'm gonna explode and cause it allergic reaction.

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Then you're going to have more serious allergic reaction. In fact,

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the way that you actually test for allergies is you

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test for those scanners. So if you know that some

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one has more scanners for the cat allergen, more likely

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than not they're going to have very serious cat allergies.

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So the scanners are called igeas. There are a certain

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type of immune protein, and if you have more of those,

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then you are probably more allergic to that thing. That's

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actually what all the allergy tests test for, and those

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are the final readouts that you actually get, and so

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you know, that's how your body's immune system works. That

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all has to do with the history of your body,

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how your immune system adapted, how it learned what was

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bad and what was not bad, and unfortunately everybody has

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different ways of doing that and it's a very complicated process.

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filled with these scanners that say, if you see a

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cat allergen overreact, it's a danger.

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Speaker 2: So I wasn't exposed to cats younger. We didn't have cats.

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My first cat was Dennis, which was thirteen years ago,

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but we did have dogs. So if you're exposed to

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not that allergen, but something close, does that make a difference.

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Speaker 5: Actually, there is a you know, it's generally believed that

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if you are exposed to an allergen as a child,

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potentially you might have less allergies to that thing later.

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randomly start assigning these scanners and believe that something's dangerous

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for you, it depends on when you're exposed to that thing.

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If you grow up around cats, actually pretty high likelihood

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your body is going to say, hey, this thing is

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around all the time. You know, it's probably not that

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bad for you, and therefore let's not have as many

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scanners for this thing around. And there's other methodology, there's

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other ways that your immune system is able to prevent

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that overreaction. So it's highly dependent on when you were exposed,

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and that's probably more likely is you were exposed at

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a later time point in your life to a cat,

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and at that time point in your light, your body

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was potentially overreacting to things, and so when it saw

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that cat, it was like, Okay, this is the first

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time we've seen this thing. It's probably bad for you.

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Let's get some scanners in there. Let's make sure this

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never gets into us ever again.

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Speaker 2: Wow, this is fascinating information about allergies, way more than

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I ever expected to know about. So we're going to

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take a quick break and we're going to come back

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and talk about what led to their creation of packaging

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and what's it about. So we'll be right back. Hey guys,

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Michelle burn here, is your cat slowing down or having

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Speaker 2: Let's do that. A life Radio headline.

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Speaker 6: Radio Petlife Radio dot com.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back everyone. We're talking to doctor Zao about allergies

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and he also created a product. He's you're the co creator.

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Speaker 5: Right, yes?

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Speaker 2: With your wife?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: So how did you decide no, she's allergic to cats?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Yes, So tell the story. How did you come to create?

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product because my wife needs to be around cats.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I always say I'm a converted cat person because

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I think prior to twenty twenty, I never thought I

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was going to get a cat. I've always liked dogs

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more and which you know, I don't know if I

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should be staying in this podcast.

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Speaker 2: That's okay me too. I mean I'm from you know,

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maybe like two thousand and when did we get Dennis?

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probably the last fifteen years before that, I was dog

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in kob.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I love cats now, so so yo. It

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was twenty twenty COVID hit. We were working from home,

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we should get a pet, because you know, I'd love

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to have someone to take care of, you know, when

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the time, they basically said if you exit your house,

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you will be killing people. So I felt like walking

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dogs were probably was probably not what I wanted to do,

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and so I just searched, like, you know, kittens available

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for adoption near me, and we found Yamyao was our cat,

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and we brought them home and brought her home and

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my wife was just pretty allergic to her, so she

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was having an asthma attacks. She was really not reacting. Well,

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we had no idea she was allergic for we got Mayamyao.

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it like like mild asthma.

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Speaker 5: She didn't have any of that. She uh run, yeah, nothing.

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She actually thought I was going to be the allergic

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one because I'm allergic seafood. And so we were really

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shocked that she was allergic.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, life works in a mysterious ways.

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Speaker 2: It sure does. It sured does. Okay, So then then

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what happened? So you adopted a pretty short hair.

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fell in love. She's she's perfect. And we we found

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out my wife had allergies. You know, it got to

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the point where my wife couldn't work out in the

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house because the instance she worked out, she would have

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an asthma tac. It was very, very intense. We tried everything,

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so we were washing the sheets every day, we were,

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you know, using all the products on the market for her,

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and it just wasn't helping that much. She ended up

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just taking allergy pills, right, So she was taking clariton

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every day, and I was looking into it, and my

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wife's got a PhD malect topology, she was looking into

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it too, and we we were like, this is such

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an odd problem that people really haven't come up with

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a solution from. It. Is this protein and proteins cause

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almost all the issues in your body. So you know,

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when we're treating cancer, we're basically treating one protein. That's

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just how all of our medicine has now been developed.

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so there's this external protein. It is messing with your

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immune system and that's all it does. But this protein

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isn't that important for cats to be happy, Like, you know,

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you don't actually need it to be active in the

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cat's body, and so it doesn't do anything to you,

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like it actually has no reaction to your body. So

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we saw this and we were like, well, we know

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a lot of different ways to neutralize proteins to really

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try to make sure that they are not active in

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your body. One of the ways is we create a binder,

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meaning if you have a protein of interest and it's

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causing issues, we can have something that binds to it

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and it basically it's like duct tape. It like duct tapes.

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issues in the body. Let's make sure you can go

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through the body and not cause any harm. So we

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found a lab that worked with outpack us to try

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to discover these things. And I can go to more

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details to interested in how our pacasts are involved. But

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we leverage outpactas to help us discover something new. No

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a packats are really hurt, and we then manufacture it,

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create a product out of it, and create a spray

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so that you can spray the area in which you

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have a bunch of catallergens. The spray duct tapes all

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the mouths and all of these allergens, and it makes

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it so that your body doesn't recognize it so you

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don't have the reaction. And so that was the creation

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of it. We we found some friends and we were

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able to get a little bit of funding. It costs

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a bunch of money for us to do, and we

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we got the product out and now a bunch of

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people can live with cats more easily.

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Speaker 2: I think that's incredible. So let's talk about how it

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works and for what extreme Because there's people that are

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going to say, you know what, I'm allergic cats. I've

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been allergic forever. Nothing's going to change. So, yeah, we

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have those naysayers. Then you have some that are going

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to say, you know what, I want to give this

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a shot because I like you, they've always wanted a

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cat and they're more open minded. So how do you

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go about convincing someone. Sometimes it's someone in your home

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or friend. You know, you got to try this, or

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I'm going to try this and it works and you're

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not going to have a problem.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. So there are a couple of reasons why we

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created this specific product. The first is everything else on

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the market we saw there are many ways to destroy proteins,

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and unfortunately, cat allergens are a very stable protein like

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we were talking about, and so some of the other

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things that people are selling. People are selling like bleach

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to bleach to basically spray bleach in their house so

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that it kills the protein. Yeah. Yeah, that's one solution

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for cat allergens is I guess you can just spray bleach.

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specific to the cat allergen, and so if you are

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spraying something that kills proteins. You are made out of proteins.

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Everything that makes us work as humans, those are proteins,

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and so that's not going to be safe for you, right,

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you can obviously imagine it probably shouldn't be spraying everything

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is concluding you like your cat, with something that just

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degrades proteins. And so the thing that I love about

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our solution and the reason we created it is we

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use it every day, is it's very specific. The duct

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tape only duct tapes the cat allergen. It does not

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work with anything else. So people are always like, hey,

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will this work for dog allergens? It will not work

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because the dog has a different allergen. And that's actually

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what makes it great. It does not work for any

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other protein and human body, it doesn't work for anything

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else in any living organism. So it's completely safe for

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somebody to use. So we my wife and I just

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had a three month old newborn, and we use around

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newborn because we know that the way that we developed it,

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it only binds that one thing, and it's very very

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good at duct taping that one thing to make it

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Speaker 2: Well, congratulations, you're a new parent.

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Speaker 5: So it's been rough, but uh.

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Speaker 2: Yes, okay, So now let's go to the cat. As

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we know, not true for mine, but most cats are finicky,

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so you are the cat topper and the spray the topper.

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going to still eat? And how does it work? So

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do you just sprinkle a little I love the packaging,

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by the way, Sprinkle a little bit on their food

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and that's it. Once a day, twice a day.

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once every day during the meal. Just put a little

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bit on top while they're eating it. It will neutralize

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the allergens in their mouths and therefore they'll you know,

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and it also they'll spread it to the other place

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of their body right after they eat, and you'll see

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very nice results for free allergies.

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Speaker 2: And about flavors, there's chicken flavor. What other kind of

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flavors do you have? Or just this one for now?

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Speaker 5: There's chicken for now. We are working very hard on

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a fish flavor. We're trying to be very safe, and

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it just turns out that the supply chain, so trying

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to get fish and then trying to get fish powder

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is much more difficult than chicken. Chicken is much more commonplace,

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and so it's taken us a little longer for that.

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We should have that available in a couple of months.

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The fish.

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Speaker 2: And how does the spray work.

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Speaker 5: The spray it comes with a little powder packet. That

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powder packet has the secret ingredient. It has the whisker block,

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which is the special duct tape protein that will block

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the active part of the allergen. And so you pour

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that into the spray bottle. Add you add our stabilizing solution,

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which is something that helps our duct tape lasts longer,

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and then you just spray the areas in which you want.

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Alligi's virtualized. So, for example, my wife has a lot

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of issues because Meamil is a very naughty cat. She

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loves being on our bed. But if you're allergic to cats,

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having you know, all over fern dander in the area

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where you sleep not that great. So I actually use

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the spray mostly on our bed, so I, you know,

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of course, use a roller, roll up the fur, but

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then I'll spray it and spray the bed so that

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when my Mike goes to sleep she doesn't have this reaction.

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and they're going to sit on your couch, you can

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spray your couch. You can unfortunately you can't a spray

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a cat. That would be a very great way of

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making these work. Another way you can do it is

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if you you know, if you've seen people put on

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perfume or cologne. You can spray it into the air

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and you can breathe it in and that will help

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line your or lungs and different you know, the different

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airways so that if it ever comes in contact with

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the allergen, it will neutralize that response. And so there's

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multiple different ways to.

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Speaker 2: Use the spray so you can ingest it. Have you

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thought about making I don't know, a dosage for humans.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we we're working on it. We we want to

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be very careful with regulations, with testing, with all those

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things we've done. All the safety doesn't know that it's

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safe for humans, but we want to do probably another

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clinical trial just to make extra certain, and then we

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need to make sure we work with the right regulatory

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bodies to make sure that it can be a good product.

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But we're working on it right now.

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Speaker 2: This has been such a fascinating show. What about other allergens.

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So I know we're you know, catitude. You have cats,

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so for some people, cats of course have the fee

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line as you said, it's the fee line felt one,

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and so that's much stronger than say, you know, if

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someone's allergic to dogs. I don't know if people are allergic

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to other things like bunnies or iguanas. I know cats

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and dogs are most common, but do you think you'd

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come out with a dog version.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so dogs have two different major allergens. There's actually

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two of them. They're called knine F one and canon

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F two. So can F one can F two makes

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it easier. Okay, yeah, they make it easy. I guess

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they're two different proteins and two different allergens. They are

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in the dog's saliva, and so there's less people allergic dogs.

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to dogs. We are going to be releasing a spray

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for dog allergens as well. We did the entire research

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process over again because it's a completely different allergen, and

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we're really you know, we're hoping that we can help

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people dog allergies as well. And then we're also working

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on dust allergies.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's a good one.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's much more gnarly than you can imagine. We're

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excited about it. Do you want to hear about the

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nastiness of dust allergens?

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Speaker 2: I did that allergy test, the one where they put

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the dots on your arm. I lit up. That's everywhere.

483
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I didn't think I had any allergies, and I lit up.

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And I'm allergic to grass dust. You know, dog fer

485
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I take, and you know, an allergy pell but I

486
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just deal with it. You know, we're right. With the cats,

487
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it's a lot worse because I also have myolnasma, so

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I find myself wheezing around them every so often. And

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again it's because I'm on the couch and that's where

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they are. So there's more of that tell us about dust,

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because whether you have a dog or a cat, or

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a fish or bird, you have probably have dust in

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your house.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I apologize to everybody listening for ruining your lives.

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But you know the truth about dust is you're actually

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not allergic to dust. Dust, you're allergic to dust mites.

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And you're actually not allergic to the dust mites. You're

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allergic to two allergens in their poop. So if you're

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having dust allergic reactions, it's because you're reacting to their poop.

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It is uh and it just so happens that it's

501
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also a very dangerous reaction because remember what I said

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about other allergens. Other allergens are not actually harmful to you.

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They're not doing anything to you. You're just having an

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overreact one of the dust might allergens. So the thing

505
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in one of the dust mites poop is called dr

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so dust Might's their name. Put starts with der, so

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it's DRP. One that is something that cuts things, So

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it's called the protease. It cuts other proteins. And the

509
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reason it's causing a reaction is because it's cutting up

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all of the linings in your lungs, all the linings

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to all of your airways, and it's allowing other allergens

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to get into your system. And so it's actually super dangerous.

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If you are exposed to dust as a baby, you

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have five times higher likelihood to get asthma. So it's

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an extremely terrible allergen to be around. And we did

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entirely a different process to try to find something that

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neutralizes the allergen activity. This time, so the actual ability

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of the dust might allergen to cut through things. And

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the thing that we found, which is going to be

520
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in the dust spray that we're going to release in February,

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it neutralizes the activity of that cutting by seventy six percent.

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So we're really hoping to help other people. Even if

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you are allergic to dust, by the way, it's still

524
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cutting things up. It cuts things up in everybody. It's

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just that for forty percent of people, you just happen

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to be overreactive to whatever it lets through.

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Speaker 2: So even if you and this is not sorry, not

528
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true me, I'll confess, even if you're spotless in your house,

529
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they're still dust existing.

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Speaker 5: So the study about the asthma, it's an excessive amount

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of dust. So my guess is if you if you

532
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have a spotless house, you're not gonna have enough of

533
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the allergen in order to set off the issue. But yeah,

534
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dust smite allergens also last a long time. The reason

535
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they're good allergens is because they're extremely stable and so

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they will cause issues. That's why people that's why people

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00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,920
recommend air purifiers, air filters. They actually are very good.

538
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I actually recommend most people get them because you really

539
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don't want dust lying around. It's really bad for you.

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Speaker 2: That's good to know. And yes, I do have an

541
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air purifier. Time to get a new filter for that.

542
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Tell us where this has been fascinating, Thank you so much.

543
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Doctors out? Where can we find packaging?

544
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Speaker 5: Right? Yeah? Package in generated generated?

545
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Speaker 2: Right? Where can we find packaging?

546
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Speaker 6: Sure?

547
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Speaker 5: So we're available at some novelty pet shops, but you

548
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can find us as well on our website packaging dot

549
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com E A, C A g N dot com and uh,

550
00:28:23,559 --> 00:28:25,279
you know, all of our products will be available there.

551
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You can reach out to us on support. We're really

552
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excited to talk to people and just to help people.

553
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Speaker 2: This has been fascinating and you're scientists, so did delve

554
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into there, but you made it very relatable to those

555
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,200
of us that are not scientists. So thank you so

556
00:28:39,279 --> 00:28:42,359
much for coming on Best Bets for Pets and sharing

557
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this knowledge. I hope you all enjoyed the show. This

558
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has been fascinating. You're going to want to check this out.

559
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:53,480
Packaging it is simply incredible. I'm excited about it. Having

560
00:28:53,559 --> 00:28:57,319
catalogies and having people that have catalogies can now come over,

561
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so check it out. I want to thank my guest

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to doctor Evan South, thank you so much for coming

563
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on Best Bets for Pets. I want to thank everyone

564
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that's listening. Thank you so much for being a loyal

565
00:29:08,039 --> 00:29:11,880
listener to Best Bets for Pets. I appreciate it so much.

566
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I want to give thanks to my cat crew that

567
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you know, allergy or not. They keep me on my

568
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toes and I love them, so thank you, Dennis, Charlotte, Mollie.

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And thanks to my amazing producer that works his magic

570
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and makes this show sound amazing. So thank you Mark Winter.

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And you know ALERGI or not. Give your feline a hug.

572
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Why not? And remember you'll never know what we'll have

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next on Best Bets for Pets.

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Speaker 4: Let's talk bets every week on demand only on pet

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Live radio dot com.