Speaker 1: Hello, ladies, gentlemen, Welcome back to the Fallout season two
review series. I am the Abomination trest now and I'm
joined by Hey, my name is dyl Muss. Yes, we
are back after a little lengthy break here. We did
we did preference this in the multiplecasts and the first
episode of Fallout, saying hey, we don't know when these
are gonna be. One dropped on Christmas Eve, one drops
on New Year's Eve. I wonder how that did for
their ratings. I want because I feel like we've talked
about this before. I feel there is some people like
us that might just binge it. But then I think
I've done this with multiple stream shows AKA like recently
like Wednesday season two that eventually just builds up and
you go, eh, I don't know why I canna get
back to that, and you maybe never do, right, So
I just I get the strategy if you're a stranger
of things.
Speaker 2: I don't know about Fallout, but who knows.
Speaker 1: I would love to see and I would love to
see what deyl Moss saw these episodes. But before we
get into that, we're gonna do I don't know, say
we're an non spoils. We're good because we're just gonna
We're not gonna an episoe backs, so we're just gonna
throw this all together.
Speaker 3: Ye.
Speaker 2: I guess we'll give nonspods for this week, but I.
Speaker 1: Think we'll just give a general overall as far as
like what we've thought about these last few episodes, and
then we'll give you a break just in case you
know you haven't.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's kind of a weird one.
Speaker 1: But now from now on until the finale for the
Forestable Future, unless something happens, we should be back to
being weekly. No we're batches, no we're big drops or
anything like that. But uh yeah, check all the feeds.
Lots of good stuff even though it is the new year.
Somehow this year.
Speaker 2: Lots of news dropping, lots of trades drawing. We talked tomorrow.
We have lots of fun casts as well.
Speaker 1: I kind of thought about this when I was sharing
the side Quest episode today. I feel like the two
months always in my head now August because we got
GVDA and then November is extra life. But I feel
January for us is very underrated because we've got all
like the previews, the predictions and the drafts. Like it's
a fun time when I look at the colend, I'm like,
oh yeah, these are all yeah Golden Geeks like these
are all super funs, and I feel like again down
below first link is a survey. Lots of people bring
up the drafts and Golden Geeks and stuff, so it's like, Okay,
I'm very excited for the next few weeks here, so
it's gonna be a good time. So there's already been
good stuff to come out. We did the video game
preview this Monday. I guess drops on the Tuesday, but
still this week it's out there on the fees look
up for that.
Speaker 2: We do a whole.
Speaker 1: Look from today, you know, January to the foreseeable future,
maybe even possibly twenty twenty seven depending on on these games.
Speaker 2: Right, So yeah, that's a very fun one.
Speaker 1: And then tomorrow and then sometime later on the week
on the feet we're doing the movie version of that.
Speaker 2: And then yeah, like Dylan said, Golden Geeks is coming up. Draft.
Speaker 1: We had a Bone Temple review I think for and
then for TV show wise, I think Kirklin and Taylor
doing Game of Thrones. I will do that if Taylor's
not available. I haven't been jiving with these previews of
this new show, Dylan, So I don't I don't.
Speaker 2: Know where I am.
Speaker 1: But with the last show I was like that and
then I watched Us all In, so I think, luckily
that's Taylo's gonna get into some rotation of being back.
So that's the only other TV show happening. But yeah,
we'll be back for Fallout. And yeah, if you like
listening to this, there is Petron, but we'll talk about
that a little bit later, Dyl muss. We have three
episodes to catch on. Obviously, we watched the first one
few weeks ago. I feel like we're both kind of
like positive to lukewarm, Like I don't think we loved it,
but I don't think we also like disliked or anything
like that. So now, after you've had, you know, roughly
three more hours of season two of Fallout, where are
you now?
Speaker 3: I think I'm still in a similar lukewarm y kind
of place. And maybe I don't think I'm down on
it yet, but I'm getting a vibe that I'm gonna
be quite down on the end of the season, just
based on two things in particular, one that happens in
this episode and one thing from episode three that. I
thought it was interesting, but it seems like maybe we're
just like skipped past that now we're not going to
come back to that, I guess insane in a very
light spoilery kind of way. So obviously, you know, as
a big followup in New Vegas Fan, I've been looking
forward to the season and it's fun every time there's
a reference to something from those games, or you know,
the credits for episode four, for example, or one of
the songs that's like in the radio in that game. Right,
So I'm very nostalgic for a lot of this stuff.
They're taking a different route, you know, they're not retelling
the New Vegas story. It's just the New Vegas setting.
But there are a couple things that are like direct ties.
Like an episode three, we go to Kaiser's Legion. We
have a whole thing there, But the fact that we
didn't revisit that all this episode makes me think that
that was all we're going to get for that in
this whole season. What do you think about that? For example,
I was.
Speaker 2: Kind of hoping, like the only reason I have to
think no is because like it's not Big Sboy, But
mcaulay culkin was there right, So to me just feels
like if that's the last we see of that, I
know there's one other character that we had like a
let's just say, two episode run with, but that was
like a big, definitive ending, Like Okay, I can see
it's kind of fun having for two episodes and then boom,
big ending.
Speaker 1: We know that's enough, right where just what McAuley culkin
maybe just dies off screen. That feels kind of odd.
So that's why I feel like that has to come
back in my opinion at some point, whether it's next
year or not. But I feel like even this year
we could revisit it. But I'm not a hundred percent obviously, So.
Speaker 3: I think that's that's partially why I'm a little uncertain,
because if like that's all we get, Like Kaiser's leadis
is a huge faction from the game. It's kind of
one of the ending routes you can go through a
huge There's a lot that happens there and it's very
different than what they did in episode three. But I
like that even just having that similarities to it, and
if that's like all we get from that, I will
be a little bit disappointed. Obviously, bringing in my like
preconceptions from the games and just certain things. And in
this episode, for example, I guess in an light spoiler way,
I can just say that we finally get to the
strip and it's kind of not what I was hoping for.
I'll put it that way. So yeah, I think overall,
like there's definitely some good things. In particular, actually did
really enjoy episode two. I thought there was a lot
of fun things happening in their good journey for our
you know, two main leads if if I mean this
show is kind of an ensemble, but if there is,
the two main leads at being Lucy and Walton Goggins
Cooper Howard's character name I want to interchange. I want
to call her Lucy that I want to call him,
uh Walton, which I know is confusing to use one
actor one character name. And I'm liking some of the
stuff that we got with with Lucy's brother and that story.
Then that's fun for me so far. I think the
the drag for me in the season so far is
definitely turning out to be the Brotherhood of Steel. In
this episode, we got a lot of it, and I
just don't find it that compelling. I think a lot
of the characters there are pretty dry, and even the
one that's leading it, Titus, is like, I don't know
if it's like an actor choice, a directional choice, a
writing choice, but he's just a blank wall and it.
Speaker 1: Just was your favorite last season too. I remember he
is rank pretty low for you.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it's like I just don't care about him
at all, and I think I think Lucy as a
character was able to pull a lot of interesting stuff
out of him. And obviously they're split up this season
thus far. I think they will reconnect at some point, obviously,
especially with some stuff in episode four. Maybe we're leading there,
but yeah, I think so far, I'm feeling kind of
mid on this season, which is crazy because is it
an a episode run? Are we already halfway through?
Speaker 2: I'll find it.
Speaker 1: I believe it is, I think, so let me do
a little quick search here, but yeah, we're halfway through.
Speaker 2: It could be ten. There's a couple of ten ers.
Speaker 1: In the Amazon sphere, but uh yeah, they got all
the cast lists at sixteen, so it must be an
eight and eight.
Speaker 2: So okayah, we're halfway through. I guess. Yeah. Yeah, I
feel like I'm similar to maybe like a bit higher,
but not like too much higher. I feel like it's.
Speaker 1: Exactly where I was with episode one, where I'm watching it.
I'm enjoying it, but it's not mussy TV, and I
feel like there is a sentiment right now that it
is a step down below season one, and I still
want to see how I feel about that. I guess
even I feel like when I started It's Fall at
season one halfway point, I didn't feel like kind of
a lull, but at the same point, we did binge it, right,
So all those questions, even things like the uh the
pod people or the shelter people, like like we moved
through that quick.
Speaker 2: I feel like faster because it's not weekly.
Speaker 1: We just watched our own pace and kind of got
the answers that moved along, right, So we'll have to see.
Speaker 2: They think there's a general sense of not as good.
And I guess the other point too.
Speaker 1: I will bring up that even though it's based on
a game fault, season one gets the benefit of the
introduction of the world, right, And I feel like that's
where a lot of movies, TV shows games, that's the
pause that they do have because if you like that
world and it's all about oh the retelling this, or
you know what a ghoul is, what a pit boy is,
like the first time you see the armor. It's just
there's a lot of moments where now say, okay, we're
in this world. So I agree with everybody, yeah, Lucy
and the ghoul, like that's good times. But I feel
like right now, it's just it's just good times, like
not like that's about in like that.
Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong, that's not a bad thing.
Speaker 1: But there was something that happened in episode two which
we'll talk about with Walton Gogan's character, and we never
really went back to is something that I thought was
really interesting because I extremely disliked it for the character
doing it. But we haven't touched upon it too much yet.
So I want there to be a bit more of
emotional core. And now that you said that is halfway that,
that's a little scary for me.
Speaker 2: But I know they're planning.
Speaker 1: I think season three is already green lit or whatnot,
so I feel like they're doing a big slow burn.
I will say I actually am enjoying the Brotherhood of
Steel stuff, not all of it, but I don't I'm
not down on Tys as much as you are. And
I think there's some aspects, especially the episode I will
ring up now been spoiled. I will that I'm liking
the idea of the Commonwealth and the Brotherhood and the
Civil War aspect and how Titus is kind of dealing
with that.
Speaker 2: I feel like.
Speaker 1: Episode the first episode he was an episode two, I
can I guess spoil that, they definitely like just muted
him because he was kind of like a goofy, you know,
gullible sort of character, but he was like hardened by
the war and he's been through stuff. I'm happy it
seems like now we're starting to lose that because that
character that doesn't really interest me at Also, I was
worried the whole season was gonna be, oh, he's like
that until he bumps into Lucy again.
Speaker 2: And I liked that already last week and this week
more so.
Speaker 1: They're starting to make some choices, and I think what
they do with this character in this episode opens up
for some exciting possibilities. But I think there's some very
dumb kind of plot jumps as far as I don't know.
It's it's tough with this show, right because it is
tongue in cheek and it is humorous, but at the
same time they want drama there, So sometimes I don't
think the show bounces it there right amount. I feel
at least season one, I feel like it bounced it
out where there's i'll just say, a character in disguise
this episode, I think they said that, oh they said
up last week where it just feels like this is
very easy. It just feels like no one's asking to
see his face, no one's questioning why this guy. And
if that was a point in this episode that was
a contention of how things revealed, i'd go, okay, but
it really is.
Speaker 2: Nothing other than just a joke, and I don't know,
it's just kind of it's kind of odd.
Speaker 1: And then yeah, I think I'm with everybody else that
all the other storylines right now, nothing's really really doing.
Speaker 2: It for me.
Speaker 1: I guess the pausitive I can say is the flashback
Walton Goggins, uh Lucy's brother, and then the actual shelter
pee like the thirty one to thirty two people.
Speaker 2: So far though those have.
Speaker 1: Been pretty minimal, like the scenes they've been in and whatnot,
So I think that's something where it hasn't been bugging
me that much like we haven't seen Lucy's brother people,
like we saw an episode two them get out of there,
and then we didn't see them for a whole episode,
and then this week we'll get in too. I think
it was like a scene or two like not even
So at the end of the day, I don't care
so much about those storylines right now.
Speaker 2: They haven't made me invested.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, they're not taking up a
bunch of screen times, so I'm not mad about that.
So I'm still enjoying it, but it hasn't become kind
of must wash. We're even season one with being a binge.
I still was excited to get to the next episode.
In the next episode, but maybe that'll change because I
feel like this episode kind of multiple ways ended in
a in an intriguing route for multiple characters. I feel
like they did a good job of you know, okay,
it's halfway point, lets people, let's get people reinvested if
they're not, you know, so.
Speaker 3: Hm, absolute, yeah, anything else non spoilers, No, I don't
think so.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: What I was gonna say, as you mentioned a few
of them, have you felt that since like because episode
one you felt there was a lot of East rays
and callbacks other than like actual locations. Have been feeling
that a lot still at the show or do you
think it's kind of, you know, just a bit here
and there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, they're definitely doing a lot of stuff. I
mean the big three like factions in New Vegas would
be like the NCR, Kaiser's Legion and Mister House and
like the uh, the strip in general like that that crew.
So like we've already touched on those three in a
big way. And so yeah, different different episod going to
the Sunset sars Perilla factory like for an episode there
was fine. So yeah, there's definitely a lot of It's
not like direct characters and direct callbacks, more just like
places and things. But yeah, definitely it's it is pretty satisfying,
even going to the strip scene, even though we haven't
gone in a lot of these buildings yet, you know,
just seen a lot of the names of them and stuff.
A lot of familiar stuff going on.
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Speaker 1: Like I actually got a good hue with the clouds
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Speaker 3: Nice. Yeah, so I we're in the world of Fallout.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm using orange.
Speaker 1: I feel like there's not many times I get to
use orange on the cast, you know, like I used
the side quest game Cuba, I used green for the
main episodes.
Speaker 2: And then lots of red, but never uh, it never
much orange, you know. So where should we go?
Speaker 3: Well, all, yeah, shout out one sequence from episode two
because it doesn't really connect anything, so it's a quick
shout out. But is the Shady Sands backstory? We did
a little time jump back there to seeing Yeah, just
like what happened to this town? I think it was
like maybe like a ten minute sequence, maybe fifteen minutes
or something like that. And part of this is the
reveal that Lucy's dad, who I can't remember his actual
name right now is the one who like did the
final detonation of that bomb in that city. And yeah,
we now that I think about, we didn't even get
him at all in episode four, did we, So he's
been absent forbidding.
Speaker 2: No, I guess he still has experiment on those rats,
you know.
Speaker 3: Which was quite the sequence as well. But yeah, I
really liked that sequence of Shady Sands because I thought
that was a really interesting storyline in season one and
I didn't really expect for us to go back there,
and I don't think it needed to be in there
other than making maybe like I feel, built him up
as more of a villain I suppose, yeah, when you
see him make a decision like that in real time.
But yeah, I thought that sequence was really cool, and
like the just the visuals of it looked really nice
as well. I mean, in general, like this show just
looks great, Like obviously the environments, even like the cgi
of crazy creatures and stuff. Always everything always feels like
believable in the world. And I think a scene like
that was very different than what we've got with the
rest of these sequences. So I really enjoyed that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's still good to kind of. We're
only in season two, right, and I could be wrong,
but I feel like majority of the flashbacks, if not
all of them last year were only from the ghoul
A Ka Cooper Howard's perspective, right, and we did get that.
Speaker 2: I really like the flashback of when.
Speaker 1: The bombs drop and he's there, but I think this
is one is showing another community go through and then too. Yeah,
they're adding more to the notches on the belt for
Cole McGlaughlin.
Speaker 2: Being the bad guy.
Speaker 1: And that's why I'm I am curious because I feel
there's that I feel like last episode or one of them,
so I'm gonna mix them up. But one of the
episodes where he was actually experimenting on humans before it
all went to crap with the whole brain thing and whatnot.
So I'm very curious what's gonna happen when him and
Lucy link up. I do think that's gonna happen this season,
and I just feel like they're not. I feel like,
obviously last season they said them out he's done bad things,
but I feel you could do it in a route
where you don't see him and it's maybe you know,
is he gonna keep going down this route? Is his
daughter gonna turn them where? I feel like they're just
very over emphasizing No, he's a bad guy, maybe not
like I think he still loved Lucy, but he's still
like he's experimented on people. He's dropping these bombs, So
it's not like, oh, he was kind of just going
with the flow. He was cooperating in many of these events, right,
So I'm kind of and they even I think it
was this episode two when they asked Lucy like, who
are you looking for, like like someone you.
Speaker 2: Love or someone you hate, and she didn't answer, and
then goes like, oh, what you gotta say?
Speaker 1: And she's like, oh, just someone that did bad things, right,
and I gotta bring him to justice, And the same
thing in this world, it's like, I know.
Speaker 2: It's the NCR, right, that's who they are. Yeah.
Speaker 1: When they're like, oh, well that's what we do, it's like, well, yeah,
but you guys are like a couple of rocks and
a cliff, like what are you gonna do?
Speaker 2: Like, how are you gonna lock up commic locks and
sentence him? Right?
Speaker 1: So it's it's most of the time the justice leads
to someone dying in this universe, we haven't seen many prisons,
so and I'll say, I don't think that's what Lucy's
gonna want. I'm not sure if Goul's gonna make that.
So I feel like with everything we're learning about the
Dad and the build up to that, I'm excited to
see the conversation, and I don't think he's gonna survive
it is my prediction season two.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean, I think it's an interesting type
of perspective from the follow up perspective because normally, yeah,
you're just like you are the player and maybe you
encounter a villain, but you don't really get like backstory
things like this. You don't get like extended sequences where
the villain is just doing villain as shitty things. And
I feel like a lot of this stuff also, you're
just like reading like a terminal to learn about how
some guy is evil sometimes, right, So to get scenes
like this is kind of a unique perspective from someone
who's played a lot of the games. So I like
that as Well's cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I know we mentioned that last season because
she was already doing that, but again that every time
she oh, I'm looking for my father, looking for this.
It just just feels exactly like the video game, you know,
So I want to because I don't want to forget
about this.
Speaker 2: I have a list of noahs to brown. But with Gool,
what did you feel about in episode two?
Speaker 1: I was very interested Where him and Lucy are just hiking,
they hear some squool and whatnot, and that's how we
get to who are the mccauleay Culkin people again, the
Kaiser legion. That's how we get there is they find
two people that are part of that.
Speaker 3: But you mean like at the hospital sequence, yes, and they're.
Speaker 2: Like infected or whatnot.
Speaker 1: What was which I'm waiting to kind of tie back to,
was they walk in there and they find them and
then a Gool walks up to this guy's like, all,
give me your hand. And then the second they grab Hans,
he like slits his throat and starts to eat him right,
And I thought the show was gonna kind of go, oh, well,
they're bad, Like they're gonna reveal that they were bad people.
Speaker 2: So Gool's not that bad of a guy, but they
never really did.
Speaker 1: Like I'm not sure they're good people, but they're like
they're part of some sort of their own separate thing.
I know they did kidnap Lucy, so they tried to
do that, but for Lucy and us as the viewers,
we didn't know that they were semi shady or doing
bad stuff, right, So Goole just like flat out I
know his I guess his ideas they were damaged goods
and getting die anyways, but he killed that person, started
eating them and then Lucy left him there to die.
It's kind of punishment and we haven't got back to that,
so I'm kind of hoping there's more to it. But
this episode was just Lucy on drugs and having a
good time, which she's fun elpron now is doing a
great motivation, but I feel that that was a step
above for the goul just to just take out that person,
right and just kind of snack on it. If they're bad,
I don't really care, but they didn't know that, right,
And I feel like with Lucy's that's something she's kind
of down with. I'm kind of hoping we're gonna dive
in more of the gool stuff because my other point
to hoping that they are is she did bring up
one of the episodes like oh, when your family meets
you are they gonna be happy with who you've become? Right?
So I hope we do circle back to that. It
was just that we got an episode two and there
was never really mention of it. Again, I know they've
been on the road, but I.
Speaker 2: Feel like that's a big thing for We've seen Gould
do some stuff, but that.
Speaker 1: Was just actively murdering just could have presumed an innocent person, right.
Speaker 3: So, yeah, you know they're an interesting pairing. Yeah, and
that they're kind of like diametric opposites. If he's like,
just he's been in this for so long, he doesn't
trust anyone. He will just kill some of the drop
of a hat, and she's like, you know, all benevolent,
good kind of personality. And I guess over the course
of season one and now that they're spending more time
season two, it's like they're kind of getting brought more
towards the center a bit. Yeah, we still haven't seen
him do a lot of good things yet. But he
did save her. He went out of his way to
save her. He could have easily screwed over the NCR obviously.
That was like part of his gambit with the Kaisar's legion,
is that he was going to give away their location,
but he obviously didn't. He just like set up a
trap for the Kaisar's legion to kill each other. But
you could argue that's a bad thing. But from the
one perspective we saw, it seemed like they're pretty evil people. Right,
They have heads on pikes every you know, two meters,
So obviously that's you know, a different kind of perspective there.
So and then you're right, this episode did feel kind
of different because she was just going through withdrawals and
didn't feel like the regular Lucy that we normally expect.
So yeah, I wonder how much I mean, I sure,
I assume we'll keep getting more of that. Of still,
she's a bit naive of this world and a little
too trusting. There was even a lot of that, like
even even in season one when she was traveling with Titus,
and I don't know if you remember this one sequence
when they're like getting up to a bridge and there's
two people on the other side of the bridge and
they have like this long conversation like can we trust
these people? She's like, oh, yeah, we can trust them.
And then of course, as soon as they get closed
to pull a gun and he was ready to go.
So obviously that's kind of constantly been happening. But I
feel like we're just kind of get more and more
of that, and I don't know, maybe at some point
we'll get like some big moment where he becomes a
hero for someone or to another group of people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just show them loose in a sense.
Speaker 1: Right, Well, I guess he already is though he saved
her from these people right last episode where he cut
her down after she kind of left him to die,
So I guess there's that's kind of hat they She
just didn't really, that wasn't a big moment.
Speaker 2: She didn't think him.
Speaker 1: There wasn't a conversation because, like you said, you mentioned
the drugs, which that's something I think is in a
positive where that feels very faulty, where there's certain I
don't know, stems or medpacks or whatever.
Speaker 3: Sound effect take it in my head when you're going
through withdrawls or and you wake up after sleeping and
like the beer wears off and I get hits you
with that little jingle. So yeah, that's very relatable for
the follow up experience.
Speaker 1: So that's something to me that has worked out well
as far as Okay, that feels like there's drama stuff,
but there's untill it's good for Lucy because they're walking,
And that just feels very much like the video game
where Okay, if you're hooked on something, might take a
little bit, but maybe it's just good to stay hooked
on that thing.
Speaker 2: I don't know. So that was working out for me,
and that was good because I feel other than a
few moments, like near the end, lots of.
Speaker 1: The Brotherhood stuff was really Lots of the stuff was
really silly. Well, I guess, I guess the fault thing
was kind of serious, but the Brotherhood stuff was silly
up until the final shootout because all the stuff with it.
I guess we didn't talk about how did you feel
about the Kamille.
Speaker 2: Nolan Johnny character.
Speaker 1: He was playing some commonwealth like representative. He had came
there because he heard that there was gonna be a
civil war, so he kind of put the cabash on
that him and Titus, which I don't know, I feel
like anyone would have saw coming a mile away. I
was kind of hoping they were doing a red herring
when he was getting really buddy buddy of them, like, oh,
Camel is just gonna be a bad guy and that's
gonna be it. I was kind of hoping it wasn't that,
And even though I did, I really liked the scene
with the ghouls because I thought there was something really
odd about Kamel playing it like he's usually pretty funny.
I'm not saying he's a joyful guy, but he has
an energy about him, and the fact he was doing
that same type of energy while threatening kids, there was
something that I liked about being all this is really off.
He didn't get like super dark and serious. He was
still like he had a smile on his face. He's like, Wow,
you guys are abomination, so I gotta get rid of you.
So I didn't mind that character, and I like that
It's okay, it's fun actor coming for two episodes, But
what do you feel.
Speaker 2: About him and Titus overall?
Speaker 1: And obviously they're posing his dead body right now or
they were at least to get through Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, I I guess he was gone quicker than I
thought he would be. I thought we'd get him from
more of the series, and I don't. I don't think
I saw many trailers for this, so maybe that was
a false expectation or something. I mean, I like him
just because he's a fun actor and he played he
hams up the role well for what they were supposed
to be here. And I do feel like this. I
don't know if this is like they took criticism from
season one and like made an adjustment here, because I
feel like this Brotherhood stuff is much sillier than it
was in the first season. Like you had when Titus
was with his buddy that I always forget the name of,
and those two were off. There were some funny moments,
but like back at the Brotherhood proper, I feel like
we didn't get any comedy like that was that was
the serious part of the show, Like if there was
anyone that just stuck to that one type of vibe
to it. So they've really switched things around here, especially
with that sequence that you mentioned in in this episode
with him faking in the armor there. But yeah, I
was really intrigued by what Kamal was going to offer.
And then when they go in their little journey together,
I was liking this little bromance and you know, when
I whip out the super sledgehammer, of course that's fun
as well. And then yeah, it just kind of ended
kind of quickly, so I think I maybe wanted a
bit more and I don't know. I guess we've already
kind of had this whole like this Civil war is
or is it was feeling like it was being It
was like bubbling up, and now it seems like it's
already overalllmost like because they're as as what's his name
Titus is leaving the base at the end of episode four,
all the ships are shooting each other havoc inside, So like,
is that just the Civil Wars kind of over now
We're just gonna pick up with it next season or
something like, I don't I don't know what the next
He feels like they already blew their load kind of early.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's tough because I like, on one hand, I
like Titus leaving. It gives him some urgency and an
actual story, right that he finally because I feel like
last season it was kind of going back and forth,
not that he was leaving, but they're edging that way
of like was he really in this?
Speaker 2: Was he not?
Speaker 1: Was he just kind of a lost soul? And I
like that we went from Okay, episode two, he's fully
locked in.
Speaker 2: We're doing this.
Speaker 1: Episode three, he's kind of going back and forth, and
I feel near the end of that and then episode.
Speaker 2: Four he kind of got back to his old ways.
Speaker 1: But I think at least the old ways, I still
want to be a little more comedic and a little
more goofy, but it feels like maybe he won't be
as I do only the character was dumb, but I
feel like he had a little bit of dumb luck
last season where feeling like he's a little bit more
seasoned now, so I think maybe we can get something
good with that character, having you know, the fun emotions,
being a bit more juvenile with some actual training, because
I feel like then you don't make him so kid like.
Speaker 2: So with the Civil War, I like that kicking off.
I like him taking the urgency to leave with that
over what that what do they call it? It was
an artifact, right or.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I forget the name of a little mcguffin piece.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll just call I'll call the muguffin for now.
But I liked they did that, and I liked that
he went up to the whoever the leader of the
Brotherhood is and they had that whole conversation.
Speaker 2: And at first it's like, oh, I wouldn't he shoot him?
Speaker 1: But I thought that was good the kind of time
that point in the character back, right, Like he's not
actively trying to murder people, so he was maybe a
little cold, but he is still himself. So I liked
all the stuff for Titus with the Brotherhood and the
civil war stuff.
Speaker 2: I think that's something I don't know, it could be
shelved next season.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, is his story also them
like hunting him? I guess I just need to know
what's happening with that artifact, right, Like is it that
fight happens and then the Commonwealth and the Brotherhood are
after him, because that could be a good story point
where or where you have two factions after one guy
and this thing, or does he kind of somehow link
up with Lucy and crew?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: Does that feel like too much just kind of repeating
a little bit of like season one of just having
like a random item that everyone's after.
Speaker 2: What was the item last? Was it the fusion core?
Speaker 3: Right? It was like I forget what it was called.
Was it was the thing that was like inside the
scientist's head. So for the first half of the season,
it was like the head was the thing with people
was the thing that people were after, and then they
get the thing from inside the head. I think it
was the cold fusion device. I think you think I
forget the a little fun name for it, of course,
but yea, yeah, I don't know. Like that. To me,
that doesn't feel like a very fallout e trope to
have like a mystical object like it feels more like
a fantasy game kind of trope, like an all the
scrolls thing. So I don't, I don't know, I don't.
I guess I don't know if I need that. But
it's not like every faction is after that. It's not
like that's what Lucy's goal is right now is to
find that thing. It just seems like, I don't know,
something to set up more of this brotherhood thing. And
I guess why people would be tracking him down. I
guess that's the reason to give him something like that. Otherwise,
who would care if this one guy just runs off
to go do his other thing? You know?
Speaker 2: Do you think do you think Titus reuniting with Loose
in the crew?
Speaker 1: Do you think that's like a cliffhanger for like, oh,
that's how the season ends, and they're back together for
three or do you think it happens before the season ends.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like with the Civil Wars seemingly already happening,
like Kaiser's Legion is potentially done. Who knows how much
we're gonna get at the strip, considering there's no one there, Like,
I think they probably will because, like, I just don't
know what else is gonna happen in the season at
this point. I feel like we're blowing through a lot
of things pretty quickly. So I feel like I feel
like they will see each other, They will get reunited
this season. That's my prediction.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too. The reason I think that Ogan.
Speaker 3: Sorry to cut you off. Remember on episode one, we
were both talking about, uh, Lucy's brother. I need to
get his freaking name because I keeps calling him Lucy's brother.
But we're we both were like, oh wow, he like
is breaking these people out of the cryogenic freezing And
we both were like, Oh yeah, it's probably gonna be
a couple episodes of them hanging out in the vaults
before and then maybe they'll leave or something. It's like, no,
norm next episode they meet, Yeah normal, immediately they left,
And so I feel like this show is kind of
just like for a lot of storylines, it's not taking
its time, it's just like going after it. So that's
where I feel like they will reconnect, But I don't
really know what the thing will be that has the
meet up with each other. There they because she doesn't
know he's so far apart, he doesn't know where she is. Yeah,
and he's no like intertwining stories currently, But we'll see
what happens, I guess.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we kind of learned with season two because
I can't remember he always has. I'll see if I
can find, uh, their name me? Is that buddy?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't remember who it is?
Speaker 1: No, it's the I think it's the girl who has
like the like more shaven head with yeah, which I
like gave him the speech of like, hey, you know,
like you're not a murderer, because he was like, oh,
I couldn't do it, because that could have been the
ending point. She say, no, that's a good thing he
didn't do it. They were talking about an episode two though,
which is could still be a good thing for history
Lane going forward. He didn't know why she left, right, so,
like obviously she thought he was dead, but he almost
felt like an episode two, she like just kind of
ditched him, not even a way of like oh thought
he was dead or had ole mission, just like oh whatever,
I'm kind of done with you.
Speaker 2: So there's something there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know how they get back together. I
think the only reason I'm speculating that they are is
I wonder because com McGlaughlin was saying, like, oh, when
he's that flashback of him talking with the person talking
about how I go, something's missing, like he's trying.
Speaker 2: To improve on Howard's work or the company's work.
Speaker 1: I wonder whatever Titus has, if that's gonna get intercepted
and McLaughlin's gonna get his hands on and be like, oh,
this is something that I needed to make this tech work.
But that's what I feel like is gonna happen, just
because I feel like they he always saying like, oh,
something's not working, I need something, and then he has
that again. I don't know how they get linked up,
So we'll see. I think we'll get one episode next
week of Titus just I guess he's.
Speaker 2: Not on his own. Does do you think that other
ghoul type of guys he's is he sticking with them?
Speaker 1: For the whole time, or they like, he has those
kids he's looking at right, so he has to space off.
Speaker 3: I feel like, yeah, I guess. I mean, I was
kind of confused when he even went with them in
the first place.
Speaker 1: But well, he he just needed he just needed someone
because it was like a payback, right, like, I saved
your guys lives, so I need you to go undercover
as and they made that plan.
Speaker 3: Did he say that he was going to go back
to the kids, don't again. I said that the show
is pacing. I feel like we're not going back there.
I think he'll probably stick together. I think they'll probably
stick together. I thought that guy died last season, right,
it was not like a surprise that he came back
in the season at all.
Speaker 2: I can't remember because in the recap the.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they showed him healing after that, so I
think they did hint that he was still alive. So yeah,
I I don't dislike that character. I don't know if
I I'm fine with one episode. I don't know if
I need him to now company Tys the whole time.
Speaker 3: Is a very specific type of humor that, Yeah, I
feel like you only have a certain amount of limit
that you can pull off with him.
Speaker 1: Also, we've been calling Titus. Isn't his name Maximus? Have?
Speaker 2: His name is Maximus? Says I'm looking at IMDV.
Speaker 3: I think Titus is the the person that he's been like,
was impersonating the armor of everything?
Speaker 1: Okay, there you go, so everybody, Yeah, Maximus is the
is the real first.
Speaker 2: That's who we were talking about the whole time there.
Speaker 3: But if he was a character from New Vegas, maybe
I would remember the name, but in this case I can.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So no, like I said, I didn't mind that stuff
of I actually liked the Brotherhood trying to do a
civil war without knowing and then the conwell found out
and then a bunch of brother people like, oh no,
we're not doing that.
Speaker 2: I liked that.
Speaker 1: I think again, I like that Maximis had a lot
of urgency when like, okay, well if you go in
there and they found you kill him?
Speaker 2: What she to do? Well, I'm gonna kill him? You know.
He didn't. But I felt like last season he was like,
I don't know, I'm just going.
Speaker 1: To place to place. Feels like he has or wants
to try and have somewhat of a purpose with his
actions now. So I like that and hopefully and I
think that'll be better for when they meet up with
the Ghoul, because I feel like the goal season one
maxims would have.
Speaker 2: Just been walked over all by that guy writing the
few interactions were.
Speaker 1: Now Fike, he's a bit more of a could puff
his chests out, and he's done some stuff like even
that one episode it was episode end of episode two. Yeah,
like I challenged him to a fight and he's like, oh, well,
I don't really want to do this, so later and
he got him to fight and he won, right, So
he just doesn't huge.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he doesn't feel as frail.
Speaker 1: So I think what we'll do is we'll get one
episode of him kind of on his loan loansome in
the wasteland, and then he'll somehow link up back with them.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe he'll talk to somebody that.
Speaker 1: Heard so because they did have that moment where the
NCR when she said, oh, I'm looking for somebody and
he goes, oh, everybody is. So maybe he'll bump into
one of the characters we've already met and they'll mention
a girl and the Ghoul and big oh, well, where
are they going? Oh, well, they went that, So that's
what I feel like it's could be. Even though the
Watland feels huge, you know, TV shows, movies tend to
make it a small.
Speaker 2: World now, So that that's my prediction. So m hmm,
we'll see what happens.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess. Okay. Rewinding back now to episode two,
I wanted to show two things from like that early
hospital sequence with Cooper and Lucy.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: I mean one, I like seeing the rad scorpion fight
because that's just a classic follow and I mean I
thought the CGI is fun, you know, world choreographed fun scene.
Two quotes I really liked from Howard in that sequence
is one he says empathy is like mud, you step
in it and lose your boot, which I thought was
a very good Yeah, that's a good one. That was
really like they're he's talking about her the way she is.
She's asking something about like how he was back in
the day, and he's like, you know what I was
like before the war, just like you stupid. Yeah, So
another another good line from him. But I guess yeah.
That kind of kind of lead us into the Kaisar's
Legion stuff where she gets kind of kidnapped there taken
to the camp. Uh and then he breaks her out.
So yeah, what what is your impress since you don't
have the backstory of how did you feel about Kaisar's legion?
What was your impression of that that factioning crew?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was it was fun.
Speaker 1: It felt like because as they didn't know if it
was show or movie or game or whatnot, but I
will give them credit there. It felt like the games
when you said, come from the game, this idea of.
Speaker 2: The the idea of this.
Speaker 1: Is a compliment, the stupidity of all the air is
in the person's pocket on a note, but we can't
get there because every time we try to get like
the notes, one shoots us, or a war starts or whatnot.
That feels very video gaming, where these characters are just
at a stand still doing nothing and it's just well,
can you fix it?
Speaker 2: Stranger right? Obviously she doesn't. She just gets tied up.
So I like that, and that's why I kind of
hope McCaulay culkin does come back, because I thought he
was tons of fun in the small little bits we got.
Speaker 1: I was actually surprised how little he was in there.
So that's why I'm he has to come back in
my opinion. But no, I uh, I really enjoyed it.
I wouldn't mind getting more of than I thought the
amount we got them for like a like an episode
and a half was was the right amount. I don't
think you want to just get anchored there the whole season.
But I thought it was a fun dynamic of this
kind of power vacuum and then their feud with the NCR,
which is just again this very small small group of people.
So I I enjoyed everything we got with these. So
that was i'd say a high point in these four
episodes so far.
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I think I just I just want more
from the game perspective of this being such a big
part of the games, and obviously the rivalry with the NCR,
which yeah, it's interesting for the NCR to be so
weak right now. Like when you're playing in New Vegas,
they're essentially like the police officers of that world. They're
all over the place and they kind of operating defending
all sorts of cities.
Speaker 2: They're felt very small.
Speaker 3: Yeah, on the strip, they have like their own base camps.
They're like taking over some different cities and things, so
they're they're a big presence, and they're definitely not not
that this far.
Speaker 1: It's just like one set so far, like other than
the war, it's just that those rocks that Walton Goggins
her loose you're talking to, and that's it.
Speaker 2: It's just like this is this is where the NCR is.
You're staying there, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And then uh, with the Legion, I like the
dynamic of having two separate thrones and like two separate
camps within this one faction and they're kind of going
after each other. That's kind of a new angle. I
don't remember that being a thing in the game. I
think there's just one guysar one leader, one one leader
of the Legion. Ye, So yeah, I definitely want to
see a bit more there. I just don't know. I
don't know. Also, like one of the things with the
show I feel like is the logistics of how long
it takes to get from place to place. We don't
really spend much time on that, but like seemingly this
is kind of far from like New Vegas proper. And
obviously there's like fast travel if you if you factor
in how quickly these characters get around. So we'll see
what happens there. But I just hope there's a bit
more going on with them in the NCR. I feel
like there's a lot more to be dug into there.
But I like McCauley, and I like the just general vibes.
I think they did a good job of capturing the
visuals of that location.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which they were talking about. Then I got the
full quote here. It was before, it was after that,
but it was when Lucy was still in the drugs
and they went somewhere else and you know, they the
ghule pitches something and she's like, well, my dad's just
over that fence, and then the goool starts to walk away,
and then she says, Oh, I'm done with all these
sidetracks and due tours.
Speaker 2: I want to go do this now. Again. That felt
we've talked about so many times with Fallout.
Speaker 1: And that's where it's interesting, right because with Fallout and
there's a faction of a storyline sidequest that we again
thralled and play that for hours. But then with the
TV show you do kind of have to always make
it like main objective first. So when she said that line,
I was like, oh, it felt very fourth wall breaking
of like.
Speaker 2: How many sidetracks we're gonna do, like, let's just do this.
Speaker 3: Thing, especially multiple characters kind of you know, doing stuff
at the same time, right.
Speaker 1: That kind of I wonder because I guess we can
kind of transition in this the vault and shelter people and.
Speaker 2: Her brother god Ai Forgoz Norm. I wonder because.
Speaker 1: I'll See'm sure there's budgeting and time because like Wolton
gog and season why lotus he's and other stuff. Right,
I know that el Pronow she's in some show where
she plays a serial killer. So it's not like these
people are just doing Fall, right, They're doing a lot
of stuff. But I wonder if it was possible if
there's a.
Speaker 2: World where if the three characters were really.
Speaker 1: Just Maximus, Lucy and Google and all the scenes were
getting with the other people, if you just cut them
and gave them more time, if you could get more
stuff with the NCR and Macaulay Culkin and all and
more strip and New Vegas stuff, right, Like, that's the
one thing I always wonder if it could be better,
because then obviously I feel like you can take more
side quests when you're with your main characters where some
of that stuff like the Vault people feels like a
side quest already. Right, I'm sure it's gonna tie in
all together, but I wonder what the show would be
like if it was more just centered on the three
and that was that was it, right, Maybe I'm kind
of wishing it was that because none of the other
stuff is kind of offensive. But I think there's just
a general lack of investment from me on everything that's
not those three so far.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm definitely like with the Vault, what's going
on in the Vaults right now, I'm pretty uninvested in,
i would say, And we finally got maybe a bit
more in this one episode. I feel like it's just
one of those things that gets stretched out, like if
if you're having, like, no matter what episode of this
show you have, you're always gonna have a bunch of
loosey and google stuff, right, because they're kind of like
the leads one and two. You're probably always gonna have
some Maximus stuff, although I think he wasn't in one
of the episodes now that I think about it, But
it feels like, Okay, if there's any story of that
that it's gonna get cut for time in a particular episode,
it seems to be like that vault stuff or like
what's going on with Norman and whatnot. So it just
feels like those ones move at a snail's pace and
compare to these other ones that move just like really
really fast. So I don't know, just I don't know
if that's an editing thing of pacing of the episodes,
an episode count limitation budget thing. I'm not sure what
it is, but it feels kind of noticeable at times.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and with them with the like with the Vall people,
I just I don't know, we got there's a power
struggle with they can't We've always forgot her name too,
like the ball in leney.
Speaker 3: Fax weekend stuff.
Speaker 1: Betcy and I think we talked about last episode where
it is we talk season one, and then we talked
about this with the episode of episode one season two
here as okay, is Steph's someone that's.
Speaker 3: Is she bad?
Speaker 2: Is she good? Is she in the middle? Does she
don't know what she's doing?
Speaker 1: I feel like we're getting the sense now that she
is if she's on like a bad side or doing
bad things, she's just overcome with power to become a
bad person. Now it just feels like they've drawn that line,
which is fine. We've clearly defined it. We had that
whole conversation be like, oh, you broke a rule, who
do I report to? All?
Speaker 2: Take it? The higher power? Like, oh, you're the higher power?
Speaker 1: Right, Like that's that stuff for me is probably the
thing I would definitely, just like we talked about episode one,
I would cut that easily.
Speaker 2: I have no interest there.
Speaker 1: And then so far the other Norm and all the
Vault people that came out there, I'm on a wait
and see. They took a different approach than I thought,
because it's like you said, a couple of minutes ago,
I thought we were gonna have a couple episodes of
them talking figuring out some power dynamics.
Speaker 2: Right now is we're out of there right away. And
it's more other than that one guy who's definitely suspicious
of Norm. It's like a very groo like uh, very
like very naive, yeah, very naive.
Speaker 1: Very goofy too as well, everybody like, oh let's do
this all you said, like so, I again, I'm not
saying it's bad per se, but I just I have
no investment.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's also season one's faults of I don't care
about Norm enough, Like even Maximus, who I think I
was lower on in season one, I still end up
being carrying about him at some point where I don't
know if the Norm character justifies follow him, you.
Speaker 2: Know, and not the actor or anything like that, but
more what they wrote for, because I.
Speaker 1: Just I don't know, Like, so far, there's still nothing like, Okay,
there's this, what's gonna happen. This guy's gonna eventually start
talking to the rest of the group, they figure out
you're fraud and then they kind of turn on you.
And I just don't know what the endgame is and
hopefully when we get there it'll make sense. And I
feel like it's a purpose.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so it definitely took a different route than
I was expecting because we speculated.
Speaker 1: How it could go, and it went a different route.
Not necessarily awful, but not anything that I'm loving either.
Speaker 3: So yeah, and I feel like he already normal, already
kind of maybe gave up a bit too much power.
I feel like he's already given a lot to that guy.
I feel like, you give that guy and she takes
a mile is kind of the vibe I get from him.
So we'll see how that progresses. I'm surprised. I don't
know have died yet, uh just from a picture from
a radar from anything, So that's that's kind of surprising.
A trap, a random land mine, which are all over
the games whenever you're walking around, So I'm sure that'll
happen soon. One thing I did it was an interesting nugget.
It wasn't really that explored in a big way, but
was the when they're kind of outside that truck, they're
all kind of snacking and there, and it's just Norm
and the other girl having a quick conversation. She's looking
up at a bridge and then she talks about how,
like a week ago I drove over that bridge for
like an interview, right, and like that's a really interesting perspective.
And if you compare to the games like in New Vegas,
like you didn't come from a vault and follow three,
you grew up in a vault and followup four, I
think it does a good job of that of like,
you know, being in the cryogenic tube and you're in
like time passes. You don't really know how much time
has passed, but the idea of like man going from
one week ago you were a regular person in a
regular world to this like that is that is a
really compelling thought, and I like, I'd like to hear
other characters have like more, not just Norman her, but
like other characters having a conversation about that. It seems
like you could dive into some interesting ground there. So
I don't know how much more we'll get of that,
but I did think that was just specifically from the
game perspective, an interesting and like fairly unique perspective. We
don't really see people from that part point of view,
so I thought that was a little bit interesting tidbit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think that's something you could use if
you wanted to make more of a dramatic term of
those characters.
Speaker 2: I think the problem with them being, like we said,
Bittmannight even Goofy.
Speaker 1: I don't know how much they want to do that,
but I thought there was a good I think it
was episode three and that's where sure there's still some
good dramatic stuff. When it was a Cooper Howard flashback
and it was like Cooper Howard's war buddy talking about
how he saved him in the tail and everything like that,
and about you know, you don't know what side you're
on You're just trying to hope to do good for
the people that are home, and you hope that you
did something that so when you die or the war's over,
you feel justified. At the same time, you and the
other people in their psych could just begin these bad orders.
So I'm butchering the speech that he gave, But that
was a good dramatic bit where I was like, Okay,
I don't really care about this, like flashback of Cooper Howard,
but I enjoy that. So if they were to give
some emotional resonance to oh, yeah, I was one thing
when I went to bed and I'm another thing when
I wake up, that'd be great.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I feel like we've talked about this a few times
where I think early on in the MCU Phase four
they touched upon it, but I feel like we never
got clearly enough of what was it like being gone
for five years and coming back, you know, like Tom
Hollans Spider Man never really talked about that. To me,
that would be a big thing, Like you miss five
years of your life. I know you're the same age,
but it's like a lot changes, right, So I feel
like that the passage of time the slippitche of time.
There's tons to be mine there, and I feel like, obviously,
you know MCU didn't do it, and I feel like
with fall Up they could be doing it.
Speaker 2: So I agree with that you. I like that conversation.
Speaker 1: I just wonder the same thing again as like the
Ghoul where Okay, he does something really mean, Lucy calls
him out for it, and then the episode it's like
resolved right where I don't think it should be that.
I think with both those characters, with Lucy and Gohoul,
if they're traveling together, it's fine for them to have
this tension of him taking lives for not wanting to,
and this whole time of them c with the vault
people or normous people, of seeing new locations or new things,
or even just these mutinant monsters, like that has to
be quite the change up for you when you were
just obviously you were prepped for it a little bit
as far as the shelters and the nukes and stuff,
but it's different to be prepped than to actually see it, right,
So I would like that, But again, there's just so
much going on. There's so many storylines because we have
Lucy and the Ghoul, we have Maximus, we have whatever's
going on in thirty one and thirty two. We have
this once and then obviously it's not in there that much,
but we have Kyle McLaughlin. I can do whatever he's
doing over there. And even though it's still the Ghoul story,
we still have the flashbacks. Right again, we talked about
they have been a little. I think they're definitely less
than season one because I always expect them every episode.
They haven't been and it feels like when we get them,
we're just kind of getting one, like one one and
a half sort of scenes there of the flashbacks, which
I didn't I liked the scene with uh, what's his name?
Speaker 2: Is it Robert House or House? What is Who's a computer?
Mister House?
Speaker 1: Yeah, the guy's doing all this computer stuff, and even
then I still think that's what's happening, because like they
I liked that scene of Ghoul, I think it was
episode two or three bumping into that computer and he's
talking like, oh yeah, House always wanted to live forever
and he was trying to figure that out. And yet
so I liked the flashback scene of them in the bathroom.
I just thought it was a very awkward setup of
a couple of days before, like, hey, we're gonna need
you to de spy on a house here, and then
house just is like standing in the washroom waiting to
talk to him. Now, granted, if they reveal that house
kind of intercepted that and know, hey, this guy's maybe's
gonna be snoop around, then I'll retroactively take that away.
But it felt very easy of just like, oh, well
he has to get an in. Well, the house happened
just to strike up a conversation with him alone in
the bathroom, right, So I liked the convo. It just
felt very coincidental. So again, the very less amount of
scenes of those two together that I that I thought
was gonna happen.
Speaker 3: So yeah, definitely after episode one, I was expecting more
of that, and I don't know if I expected much
other flashback sequences because we got that one episode two
we talked about and then yeah, I wanted to ask
you about the one in episode four of like, uh,
the Ghoul. I guess before he's a ghoul, just Howard
being Howard. He's in power armor, and yeah, he gets
knocked over. I was really confused because I at first
I thought this was a flashback to him as an
actor in a movie that he was doing before the war.
And then obviously when a death Clock comes out and
kills these people, I'm like, hell, I guess this is
after the war, but before he's been gooulified. Yeah, and
he's in power armor, and it's like, I think it's
like Chinese officers, which is like a big part of
the game, you know, like whenever, like the war between
the US and like China and stuff, and like anytime
in any of the games, the first time you finally
get like the Chinese assault, rightfle, it's like, oh fuck,
I'm about to like power up here is a good weapon.
So but I don't I don't know what to make
that scene. I was very confused by that.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I guess it was just the time of def Clock
because they did establish he was a soldier before he
was an actor, right, because they talked about that last
year and then even the episode like.
Speaker 3: Way back flashback. But yes, but there was a death Claw,
so that was after the war. Hmm.
Speaker 1: Right, So I guess are you saying death Claus didn't
exist till the nukes went off?
Speaker 3: No, because they're like caused by radiation, which is like
like like scorpions existed, but red scorpions only exist because
of the radiation from the bombs and death clause. I
don't know what they evolved from, but they did not exist.
But like I guess they were just lizards before radiation.
Speaker 1: Right, So is that maybe the signify that people were
doing some sort of experimentations with semi nuclear stuff before?
Speaker 3: Is that in China? Maybe with those Chinese soldiers.
Speaker 2: There maybe and they were in full gear like like
a tire of that.
Speaker 3: They had never seen power armor before. They were shocked
by that as well.
Speaker 1: So I guess maybe they might be a thing where
China already was doing some stuff over there, because like
obviously it just like it was just a tie.
Speaker 2: Like story wise, it was just a tie.
Speaker 1: Okay, he saw his death Claud do a bunch of
terrible things, so at the end of this episode when
him and Lucy see it, he knows, okay, bad business,
hard to kill.
Speaker 2: I thought the death CLL looked pretty good.
Speaker 1: It was better up close when that you could tell
they build a practical model from Afar. When it's moving,
you know, it's a little iffy, but that's okay, but yeah,
I don't know the ramifications people, but let us.
Speaker 3: Know in the discord. This is the one thing I
don't know anything about. I need people to tell me
what's going on in that sequence.
Speaker 2: He says, shout out to Mandarin's not t Chinese is
to their field. So there you go. So, yeah, I
don't know. I guess I didn't think about that because
I just thought, oh, it's the war.
Speaker 1: But I guess, yeah, if those were from nuclear things,
how would those deaf claus be kicking around?
Speaker 2: And I don't have that answer for.
Speaker 3: You, but yeah, because I I don't know how long
it took for him to become a ghoul. I assumed
it was like from the initial blasts, but yeah, I
don't know how long the transformation takes.
Speaker 2: But this is a long time ago, I feel like, right,
So I no idea what's going on there?
Speaker 1: Mister Field say coming in and say, I read the
death clause were experimental, So maybe those were a thing.
Speaker 3: Maybe that's just a piece of follow Laura. I don't
know about. I assumed they were like everything else post bombs.
Speaker 1: But so I guess that timeline is Walden Goggins is
at war. They got the power armor. I do assume
I would have. I'm with you that I feel like
it's a different country. It's China somewhere like that. Uh,
you know, they get taken out, they see the deaf clause,
obviously get safe, they go back, there's that stuff. He
becomes an actor, then nuke and then the death clause again.
So maybe also, I guess that's why it's like very
surprising to him because obviously we knew they were around.
But maybe I wonder if he'll talk about this next week.
Maybe he has not seen a deaf claw, which made
I guess, doesn't make sense to me because this is
supposed to be they've said that fall This is technically
in the video game canon, right, and it's the furthest
point out for Fallout, like the TV shows passed all
the games and everything. You'd feel like, how long the
ghoul's been around, he would have bumped.
Speaker 2: Into one, but maybe not. Maybe he should hear about them, yeah,
or hear about them, but I guess maybe not.
Speaker 1: Maybe he's not a talkative guy, so people don't talk
to him, and maybe he hasn't seen that, right, So
I guess that's the idea.
Speaker 2: If he would have thought that's.
Speaker 1: Like a monstrous thing he would never see again, and
here it is, and uh yeah, I'm I'm interested to
see how that goes because I definitely think the Deaf Claw,
I think obviously was in the last season. I think
they're doing a great job of building up as far
as like the size it started the episode. I think
so for Walton Goggins has been scared by nothing, and
when he sees it there's a look of fear, and
you know, same as Lucy to it. Finally, it feels like,
even though she's drugged up, that snaps right out of that, like,
oh man, there's this thing. So I think with how
legendary that creature is and what happens in video games,
I think that is worth an episode. I do not
even know a whole episode, but even if they were
telling me, hey, the whole episode for Lucy and Goules,
just them fighting the Deaf Claw, I could believe that.
I think that's fine. I'm just curious how it's gonna look.
That's that's what Also Amazon is I guess I forget
Amazon has a lot of money, but still it's just
like a It still is looking a little.
Speaker 3: I mean it's like the biggest creature in the games.
So I feel like you gotta make it epic. If
if they kill it fairly easily, that would be quite
a lotdown right.
Speaker 1: I don't think they would because we have so many
many characters, but I would kill it if they said
this episode's nothing but Lucy and Walton Goggins at forty
five minutes of just them out running out fighting. Yeah,
kind of like Breaking Bad the Fly, where it's just
like it's this way, like if that next I don't
think it's called it, but next episode was just called
Deaf Claw and you dedicated forty five minutes to killing
this thing.
Speaker 2: To me, that would really put it over.
Speaker 1: It's like a big deal, right, So I don't think so,
I bet it's gonna be like the first ten minutes
or who knows, maybe they don't kill Maybe they just
escape from it, right, I don't know, But yeah, I'm
I am curious how they pull it off, and I
hope they do it. Just I hope it is a
scene that we go, hey, maybe we have some issues
with story or this that, but that Deaf Claw scene
that was worth the price of mission, you know.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I hope we're building up to that, because yeah,
I mean I was disappointing when we got to the
strip and it was just a derelict wasteline. And I
guess that's what followed, is it's a wasteland. But I
you know, the strip is supposed to be like the
one lively spot in this entire people all the different factions, right,
and that's why it was still fun to see all
the names of the different like the Lucky thirty eight
and the Gomora and all these things the tops, but like,
you know, I want to I want to go in
there and meet the people and see what's going on there.
And they all have like their different vibes.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: One of them is like they're actually doing like cannibalism,
like they're eating people and serving that food to the guests,
and you know, one of the more gambling. One of
them is more like a stripper play, like it's you know,
all this crazy stuff's going on here. There's fun little
side characters, and I just feel like, well, we're not
going to get any of that if like literally everyone
is dead here. So that does a bit of a
disappointment now hopefully does come with a sweet death clause
sequence and maybe there will still be people that are alive.
But it was extremely quiet in the city itself, so
I'll have to see what happens there. We also did
get a reference from Cooper. He suggested they go through
Free Side because it might be a bit safer, which
is like another town outside of New Vegas. It's kind
of where the if you're too poor to get into
New Vegas on the Strip, you go to Free Side
and it's like, you know, classic destroyed little buildings, but
you got a little town there. So I like that
little reference. I don't know if we'll go there, that
would be fun. The Kings, the Elvis Presley thing is
a thing from the game. I don't know I was gonna.
I don't remember they're feral ghouls in the game, or
if they're just more of like a gang Gules, or
I don't even remember they're Guls at all. I can't
remember that level of detail, but they're definitely. I think
it's a quest you get while you're in Free Side,
is like go eliminate the Kings. Is the gang there?
So that was a fun, fun reference as well.
Speaker 1: I could be wrong, but I definitely think I've seen
his screenshot of a Elvis looking ghoul. So that's how
I feel like when I saw him in.
Speaker 3: The game, just like you can talk to him. Is
why I think they're maybe about feral Ghuls, but maybe
some of them mark but hard to rember the details.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, too bad.
Speaker 1: I hope maybe if there's like a situation where because
I feel, what do you described with the strip sounds
very fun. I hope it's a situation where they just go, Okay,
we're down with season two that was New Vegas. Like
I was like, I feel like I've not gotten the
New Vegas vibe and not and I've never played the game,
but just like the amount of feeling very different. Obviously
we've met some factions and maybe that'll change next week
when we're kind of closer into the territory. We got
the Kings, but I haven't felt like a big change
up so far. It's just like, oh, it's more Wasteland,
it's Simon color. So maybe i'd be fine if this
is like, oh yeah, some of this New Vegas stuff
is gonna even continue in the season three and we
can get to the strip or other stuff, because that
sounds fun.
Speaker 2: But as we said, with Maximouth leaving.
Speaker 1: The group with the mcguffin and now with them the
Deaf Claw, and they've insinuated that they're getting very close
to Cole MacLaughlin.
Speaker 2: It feels like we're.
Speaker 1: Kind of nearing the endgame storylines this season right, like
it's only halfway, but that's the time you kind of
have to start moving to the stuff that's gonna end
the season. So I wonder if any fun time adventure
stuff is maybe done for now, you know.
Speaker 3: And because because Camal he came like he's the Commonwealth
faction of the Brotherhood where he came from, which is
the name of like the Open World and Fallout four,
So I was wondering if that was someone we were
leading to as well. It's like this being like a
bit of a bridge to us going to like Boston
area for the next season or something like that. But
with him being gone, I don't I don't know if
that's gonna be the case anymore. I mean, maybe that
is what they're planning on doing, is each season is
of tackling a different area or a different game in
that sense, So I don't know, we'll see, But Commonwealth
could also refer to a bunch of the US. I
don't really know what that term means technically though, Yeah,
just an interesting detail and.
Speaker 1: They can't work because you rewatched season one. Did we
meet anyone for the Commonwealth last year?
Speaker 3: I don't remember that. I didn't clock yet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't think so either, And I just like
Camel got like a big entrance that that was the
idea of Okay, he's kind of, you know, introducing that
faction to us.
Speaker 3: So yeah, really just a couple of quick hits for me.
So you mentioned that, Yeah, Howard he goes, he goes
and interacts with the robot named Victor, and then the
Victor like clues him off where the NCR is. So
in the game of New Vegas, when you start, you
started in a town of Good Springs, and it's like
a small town of like maybe there's fifteen twenty people
that live there, and that's where Victor is, and you
meet Victor and that spins off like certain side quests
and stuff. I didn't catch if we were in Good
Springs in that sequence or if he was just talking
with Victor the robot there, but anyway, it was cool
to see Victor shouts to that. I liked that Victor
had his little like face screen thing similar to the game.
And I also like when they when they had that
sequence when Maximus and Kamal went and you know, to
the Sunset Sasparillo factory and they're fucking up that one
robot and it had like the army man face. That's
like all the guard robots around the New Vegas strip
have have got on them, and I've always thought it's
like a fun detail. And obviously I assume that bought
that was smashed up in this episode that they just
walked right by would have had that face and obviously failed.
I don't know how. I guess I couldn't tell because
with the death Claw egg was in the middle of
New Vegas, so I thought that was the downfall, is
that the egg. Someone brought the egg into the city
and that's why the death Claw was able to fuck
everything up, because I feel like if it came from outside,
I feel like there's probably enough security for them to
take take down a death Claw. I think that most
heavily guarded area in like the entire game, you know,
for comparing to that way, But I.
Speaker 1: Guess, like you said, sometimes change even when you're saying
the strip was quiet. Maybe maybe uh, resources aren't what
they were, right, maybe it's not as guarded, like.
Speaker 3: Especially what you're saying of this being like the most
up to date in the timeline, Like who knows what's
happened to the strip. I mean maybe it was already
someone abandoned, but I mean, the cool he seems surprised
that it was like this. So to me, it seems
like if he's up to date on anything, you'd probably
know that the stripper wasn't completely destroyed, Like but I
knew he probably travels very slow.
Speaker 1: And I was gonna say, but that the same that
we talked about how he was surprised to see a
deaf claw rights the same thing.
Speaker 3: It's like, what does the cool No, maybe he doesn't
pay much attention. Maybe he just walks around and kills people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe so. I can't remember had a point there.
Speaker 1: With robots something with oh that scene, Yeah, that's the
scene with the camel and Maximus. I wonder how it
plays for non game players, because that literally just felt like, Hey,
we're gonna take five minutes of what you might see
online and they're like, oh shit, look at this, Oh
use this weapon it just felt like two people messing
around on line, which I liked. I think maybe went
on like a had long or just cut like a
a min and a half because I felt like there's
just another run of like, oh shit, look at his head,
like it was just like but I wonder how that
played it for me. It worked well, and it feels
like a video game rere. It's oh, we're showing just
two people like if his fault seventy six and two
friends like messing around having a good time.
Speaker 2: So I think that's fun. I think it's good.
Speaker 1: And I think that also broke Maximums to have a
shell a little bit, because up in that point he
was just like the deadpan, serious war leader, right, so
kind of brought back. And that's why I was kind
of hoping it was gonna be red herring, that Kamel
wasn't gonna be bad. I just thought it was like
leaning it to be very obvious, and then he was
just bad, So I was kind of hope. I just
kind of hope when he was threatening the kids he
was just joking or he's gonna have something else, okay,
because he's like counting down and I'm like, oh, maybe
he's gonna be like, oh, and this is what it is.
But like I said, I did like that scene over
I know, a show, but I like to anticipation he
finds one kid, the multiple kids and just that line
of just like okay, kids with the smooth skin over
there you're like, oh no.
Speaker 2: And I think I actually think that was probably.
Speaker 1: Some good acting by the maximum Skuy as well, in
that moment of trying to stop these from happening and uh,
you know, killed them.
Speaker 2: And broke bolt.
Speaker 1: I guess seeh I mentioned that a bit, But yeah,
I just really didn't like how they he like hid
Kamel being dead and they just took the arm or
you know, it's just like okay, I just feel like
no one like it felt very suspicious. It just I
don't know, it felt very And you mentioned to the brotherhood.
I didn't like that scene either. I can't remember the girl,
but at one point she was talking to him. She
was almost figuring out that something was up with that
guy pretending to be Kamel, and there's some infighting. At
one point she stabs the guy in the cheek and
it goes through the knife and the guy's like.
Speaker 2: Oh, that was so cool. I didn't like that.
Speaker 1: Lots of the Brotherhood comedy stuff not working for me.
I was actually fine if they went back to just
being super straight and serious.
Speaker 2: You know, I didn't even fit that faction to me.
Speaker 3: It's it kind of is jarring, so that, yeah, I
didn't love that.
Speaker 1: And what did you feel about the leader turning on Max?
Is auestly like, because it felt like, uh, Max was
there and it's like, okay, if he calls me, I
don't know, I'm gonna kill him and he says like, ah,
are you here to kill me? And then when he
found out that he killed Kamel's character felt like he
was kind of like, hey, we can work through this,
like I'm still with you. But then when he found
out about the Ghouls, he's like all those are bombnations.
Speaker 2: He was gonna kill him. Did you like that term
with the lead of the Brotherhood? Do you not care
about him?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: Where were you on that? I?
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, I think the answer is I don't care about him,
But but I do think that sequence was like I
guess it showed how how good he is at his job.
That's I feel like, there's another way I want to
word that. But the fact that he was able to
like talk Maximus down enough for him to not immediately
get shock.
Speaker 2: Good diplomatic skills tree this guy distract.
Speaker 3: Him, you know, a little bit sleight of him, you know,
the magician trick to be able to get over to
his pistol and and be able to get out of
that sequence. So I think that showed like, Okay, like
this guy is a leader, and he feels a reason
pretty yeah, yeah, and he feels pretty savvy. He feels
like as savvy as a leader should be. Like, I
don't think he would get fooled by that guy in
the power armor, like like some of these other people
were like, yes, you know, either your perception stat or
your intelligence status be high enough, and I feel like
he has both those stats filled out on his his
carearacter character shoot there. So I like this stuff enough.
I don't know the cool part of it. I guess
that's just like, Okay, we want to make these characters
shitty and racist, and I guess that's the best way
to do it is through a ghoul. So maybe that's
what they're kind of what they're going for there. So yeah,
I guess none of it. It didn't really surprise me.
A whole lot. But I guess he's still alive, right,
so yeah, it's definitely I feel they wouldn't kill him
off for Yeah.
Speaker 2: I feel like if you kill him, you let Maximus
do that, you know, like if he have to do that.
Speaker 1: So I would be very disappointed if they're just like, yeah,
that entire faction because like Maximus is that friend there too, right,
that girl I think is a girl or whoever it is, Like,
I think that like it'd be ownest.
Speaker 2: So I think they'll come back. I just I think
I'll see it.
Speaker 1: If we don't get anything this season, I think will
be next year almost like a twist where he ends
up some location and it's he bumps in them and
it's bad for them, right because obviously Maximus didn't try
to kill him, but kind of turned on him. But
I do like what happened in that scene because I
feel like there's not like with last year it was
very one foot in, one foot out.
Speaker 2: I feel like now Maximuth is like cut off from Brotherhood.
Like I don't think they'll if we somehow get in
season three, he's back there and.
Speaker 3: He's like in the squad of power armor suit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like if he joins up with him again.
Speaker 1: That'll be active points off for the show for me,
because Okay, I feel like this is a tie we've cut.
Speaker 2: Let's move forward from that, and I'll keep them as enemies,
you know.
Speaker 3: So yeah, definitely, Yeah, I think that was all my
all my objectives here on this episode.
Speaker 2: All right, I'll go through. Yeah, I did that, I
did that. Let's see.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just again, I really liked Lucy be on the drugs.
I think there's some fun moments there, fun acting, I
will say too. When they did the shootouts with the
Kings at first for some fighting, I think they've done
this before, but that felt very much like the VA
system set up, Like it was like the first shot
she did was she turned in slow motion, shot the
leg off and a blew blew off in a very
like slow motion way. And there's a couple times in
that moment, so I know they've done it. Yeah, I
know that before, but I thought they were overemphasizing because
she was on the drugs and she took one. She
took the gun on shot once and she was like surprised.
She's like so laser focused in because of the drugs.
So I think that was like a good way to mask. Oh,
we could get some extra.
Speaker 2: SlowMo out of this. You know the very Army the
Dead too, Yes, yeah, and then which, honestly, you know
Bruce camp.
Speaker 3: In that movie, so you know it's funny connection if
it was intentional.
Speaker 2: Oh no, sorry you said Army Dead. I thought you
said Army of Darkness.
Speaker 3: I almost said Army of Darkness.
Speaker 1: Funny enough when you said she's in that movie, I'm like,
as what like small, like two one year old or
something like that. But that's something that I get. Bruce
Campbell in the show. You know, he's another he'd be
perfect for this show.
Speaker 3: You know, you would have been a good mister House.
Speaker 2: I feel he would have been right.
Speaker 1: I was thinking about that, but clear they probably want
someone like I think age adjacent to Goggins, I guess.
But uh yeah, I get to get get Campbell in here,
get him in there, and then yeah, do you have anything.
Speaker 3: Direct an episode as well? Absolutely that be he can
do the death episode. All imagine that, do Sam Rainey
an episode directs the death clo episodes? What's his names?
And there Bruce Campibell's in there, mm hmm.
Speaker 2: He can be like Goggin's Faulder or something like that.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm like, I was gonna say here, I
can't remember that. May I'll come back to me my
last question because I had it here. We talked about
a little bit. I think I expressed my opinion. Do
you have any caring about Stephanie and that vault stuff
about the whole power struggle and the guy?
Speaker 2: What did the guy? I think I missed this.
Speaker 1: Why did he figure out when he pulled up her
like passports, sayce she was Canadian?
Speaker 2: Inshout to that? Why was like, what was the big
revelation about that? Was there? Did I miss something?
Speaker 3: It felt like missed that too, I think because I don't.
Speaker 2: There's like music, stings and everything, and.
Speaker 3: It felt like I was probably writing a note on
my phone or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again, these scenes aren't that interesting, So I
apologize for that one that I was trying to look
anything I.
Speaker 3: Get that is interesting because in this in the Fallow universe,
Canada is annexed. But obviously if she she is from
before times right, she was woken up from a yeah,
from a cryogenic so she's from the before. So yeah,
the experiment is over. Whatever their experiment was, and so
he's trying to figure out what's going on there, and yeah,
she I think the interesting part there perhaps, which isn't
really anything interesting yet but it could be, is that
she meant that, like their experiment is over now, so
now it's just like free for all, like however they
want to run it, they can do whatever they want
to do. And obviously she's like pretty stingy with like
the water and resources and all that. So I, yeah,
I don't know what this is bubbling towards. And I'm
not quite as intrigued as like, cause it's funny. The
last season we had a big mystery run the vaults,
but it was Norman going to figure out what's going
on with Vault thirty one, and we get there. It
is interesting, and I am liking that even though we
haven't got a lot of screen time of it. But
now it's time feeling like they're trying to figure out, Okay,
like what's another mystery we could jam pack into all
these vaults? And this one I'm not quite as intrigued by,
even though I do like that main actor there who's
like the new norm, like he's you know, in separates
and stuff. And I forget what his name is, but
I like that actor enough. But I'm not really I
don't really care much for any of the other characters
left in these vaults. I'd liked Norman last season, but
now I don't really have a lot of skin in
the game, unfortunately.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of would like.
Speaker 1: It's just a tough situation, right, because, like I guess
there must be in the discord anywhere you two were
let us know if this is either of these vault
storylines are really intriguing, you let me know, because they
just haven't met that person yet. But I'll see the
world's big and there's millions of people watch the show, imagine, right,
so you have to be out there because if there's
really not much people, I'd be down for them just
doing like a shocking like you start off season three
and like that whole vault just gets like destroyed or
something like that, Like, wow, we lost some characters we
kind of you know, knew a little bit. Lucy can
learn that down the line, because they just like, I
don't know what we're getting from there.
Speaker 3: It'd be more fun to go see a new vault,
which we did get this season already, right, in that
I think it was episode I think it was an
episode one, right, but it was only like ten minute sequence.
It was already a destroyed vault. But I feel like
that's more fun now for the viewer is like, Okay,
what other weird vaults are there out there and what
other experiments are they doing in them? That's kind of
the premise of why these vaults are fun to find,
Like they're dungeons that are fun finding the games. So yeah, yeah,
I think I'd be down to go go that route.
But yeah, that does seem a bit like a nuclear option,
which I guess that's what fall It's all about the
nuclear options.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be something crazy, but yeah, no, I think
that's it.
Speaker 1: I am looking forward to next week though, because I feel,
like I said maxims Lean Brotherhood, with that artifact, these
two of the Deaf CLA getting close to Comic Laughlin,
I feel like we're gonna we're getting more near some
of the some more juicy storylines and we will see
the result of those other two and hopefully improved. So
like that's where I am right now at the show
is I am enjoying it. It's not like a struggle. Luckily,
to watch you because there are fun moments. I think
overall was like on good vibe, but it's not, as
I said before, not any of these episodes, even the
deaf clall and like, I'm excited to see it, but
I'm like, oh man, I can't wait because I just
don't know how that's gonna go.
Speaker 2: So I'm I'm I don't know. I can't say optimistic.
I'm I'm just curious how we got I don't know.
I don't know I feel about the show. I don't know.
It's a questionable case, but I'm enjoying it. I'll still
say I'm enjoying you.
Speaker 3: Since you kind of binged these three episodes back to back.
Do you feel like it's gonna feel like really sluggish
next week now that you're doing one episode piece kind
of thing.
Speaker 2: TVD.
Speaker 1: The only reason I'll say no is because I feel
like next week's going to be pretty not action packed,
but at least like, uh, some juice going on, So
I feel like it was more talkative. But yeah, I know,
because I guess I did go back to the fall
out way. So I will answer that question for you
next week because I don't know, because it's a separate conversation.
But that's funny you brought that up because I was
talking about Emily about this with a different show. I'm
watching The Pit right now because I say I would
catch up and watch season two or three. That's that
show where it's like it's nineteen episodes or something. I
can't remember what it is, but it's like the whole
show is just about this crew and er and the
emergency of the pit, and it's just like a day
in the life. So it's like the first hour, or
it's like five am. The next of so at six am,
it's like that Keith, Yes, first one, Yeah, you selling
at twenty four. So but I'm watching it and as
a binge, I'm really enjoying it. But I said, am,
I'm like, I don't know how much I'm gonna enjoy
this weekly And so that's why that question you asked there.
I enjoyed this by wonder because I remember in our
discord some people were not enjoying episode two.
Speaker 2: Where and I watched as a whole. I actually didn't
mind episode two.
Speaker 1: I thought I maybe, yeah, I maybe liked it a
bit better than one. But a lot of people I know,
Mike and Kyle were like, Ah, this isn't really my bag.
So yeah, I don't know. I guess watching has been
did definitely help. So I guess next week we'll we'll
see when we're back to.
Speaker 3: Fitting the pit is the name of one of the
follow up seventy sixty el sees, I think, so let's
look at that connection. What is your namer reference to,
by the way, the abomination.
Speaker 2: That's what they they're calling the ghoules because both Kamil
Nan Johnny and the leader of the Brotherhood. The second
he's like, oh, they're trying to kill kids. Yeah, and
then he's like kids, He's like yeah, google kids Like no,
those are gooules. He's like no, there were kids like
bombination and then he just gets the gun. So I
guess they're just considered abominations. So and I really had
nothing else, So there you go.
Speaker 3: Nice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, done, that's it done, vault walk back into the
waste land until next week. So yeah, we'll be back
next week.
Speaker 1: Now we'll be regularly scheduled until the show. And uh yeah,
we threw a lot of questions. So the discord is
down below joined that if the link if you click
on his debt always let us know because I think
it's like every thirty days of refreshing, so we want
to get people in there as much as possible and
love the conversation.
Speaker 2: So until next week we will be back and it
won't be boring.
Speaker 3: Goodbye,