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Speaker 2: last July, last spring and into July. We'll get to that,
Speaker 2: and then at ten o'clock we're going to talk about
Speaker 2: soul weather and what it's all about. So we got
Speaker 2: all sorts of interesting stuff coming up, and who knows
Speaker 2: may talk who knows we might talk about later on
Speaker 2: during the night, but we're going to start off with
Speaker 2: our first eight o'clock guest tonight, back for a return appearance.
Speaker 2: Chad finn, sportswriter of the Boston Globe and Chad, welcome
Speaker 2: back to Nightside.
Speaker 3: How are you or return engagement? I'm good, Dan, how
Speaker 3: are you?
Speaker 2: You bet you? We have two producers tonight. By the way,
Speaker 2: I wanted to mention both Noah and Dan. Rob is
Speaker 2: off tonight, So we got two people carrying the load
Speaker 2: in the control room and they've already set up Chad,
Speaker 2: and we have three more guests to go. So, Chad,
Speaker 2: it was twenty years ago, twenty years ago that the
Speaker 2: cursor the Bambino was broken. How many people under the
Speaker 2: age of twenty five here in Massachusetts do you think
Speaker 2: understand how important that moment was in the life of
Speaker 2: the Boston Red Sox.
Speaker 3: Oh boy, that's a good question. I think, I want
Speaker 3: to say the majority of young people. But if you're
Speaker 3: twenty five years old right now, you know nothing but
Speaker 3: championships for the most part in Boston sports. And that's
Speaker 3: not the way it was before the two thousand and
Speaker 3: four Red Sox and the one Patriots who kind of
Speaker 3: got all this started with their for Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: But yeah, you got a.
Speaker 2: Couple of Celtics championships thrown in there, and a Stanley
Speaker 2: Cup and all of that. But how would you explain
Speaker 2: it to someone who would say, Chad, what was it
Speaker 2: like back in the eighties, in the nineties before Pedro,
Speaker 2: BP before Pedro and BM, before many and all the time?
Speaker 2: You know, I mean, it was amazing to watch it unfold.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 3: I mean it was I think it made everything worth
Speaker 3: it that came before, which is really saying something. With
Speaker 3: the loss in the seventy five World Series and Carlon
Speaker 3: Fisk's famous home running game six is forty nine years
Speaker 3: ago tonight and Bucky Dent in seventy eight, all those
Speaker 3: things we don't need to rehash now, but those October
Speaker 3: brought heartbreak often, and two thousand and three, to me,
Speaker 3: it was the most crushing when they lost a really
Speaker 3: likable team in seven games, the Yankees Aaron Boom, it
Speaker 3: might never happen, Aaron Boone, and then Redemption and four,
Speaker 3: which was the Catharsis for everything that came up.
Speaker 2: I don't want to, you know, date myself here, but
Speaker 2: everybody knows I'm on the wrong side of fifty. Chad.
Speaker 2: I was there in the seventh game. You know why
Speaker 2: they keep Willoughby in there. That'd be the question to
Speaker 2: ask for the Ages, and I was there covering the
Speaker 2: sefty a playoff game when Bucky Dent came to bat
Speaker 2: against Mike Torres.
Speaker 3: That was my first year as a fan. I was
Speaker 3: eight years old and it was like taking your first
Speaker 3: bow ride on the Titanic. That said, the Red Soucker
Speaker 3: I took for life, look for life, charismatic team that
Speaker 3: couldn't get it done. We had a lot of those, we.
Speaker 2: Did, and that was the team that had I think
Speaker 2: they had led the Yankees by I think thirteen games
Speaker 2: or something like that in early September, and we just
Speaker 2: watched all of those that lead whittle away.
Speaker 3: They did, and then it's overlooked Dan. But at the
Speaker 3: end of the season they won eight straight games and
Speaker 3: to force that one game playoffs and last game this season,
Speaker 3: Luisian who just passed away, pitched a shutout against the
Speaker 3: Blue Jays to make it happen. So that team blew
Speaker 3: a huge lead, but they were not chokers. They were
Speaker 3: pretty resilient right up until the end.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was over the years. I mean in seventy five,
Speaker 2: you know, Jim Rice Pitcher, kind of a very forgettable
Speaker 2: pitcher for the Tigers, hit him on the wrist, broke
Speaker 2: his wrist. He wasn't available in the World Series. That
Speaker 2: would have made that difference there, But maybe the weight
Speaker 2: made it all the sweeter. I don't know when. Of course,
Speaker 2: that had a ptty good run. I think they've won
Speaker 2: the most World championships of any Major League Baseball team,
Speaker 2: probably second only to the New England Patriots, who have
Speaker 2: six World Championships. So you know, we've been blessed recently.
Speaker 3: That's the century has been pretty kind, hasn't.
Speaker 2: It so far? Though? You know, you have the Yankees
Speaker 2: and Dodgers now in the World Series. That brings back
Speaker 2: some bad memories because they were last I think they
Speaker 2: last met in seventy seven ers and seventy eight. But
Speaker 2: there's that darn seventy eight again. Yeah, yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: and of course they spend a lot of money on
Speaker 2: the you know, in the Dodgers in Dodger Land and
Speaker 2: in New York, and we'll see, we'll see what happens there.
Speaker 2: It's it's tough to figure who to root for between
Speaker 2: the Yankees and the Dodgers. You know, as an American lager,
Speaker 2: I'm going to root for the Yankees. But then Mookie
Speaker 2: Bets is with the Dodgers. Kind of you'd like to
Speaker 2: see maybe Mookie win another World Series. I don't know
Speaker 2: what we take sides. You're rooting for the Dodgers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've always thought of them as kind of a
Speaker 3: kindred spirit of the Red Sox because Brooklyn Dodgers couldn't
Speaker 3: get past the Yankees back in the fifties. They finally
Speaker 3: won one, but that they endured a lot of heartbreak
Speaker 3: that you mentioned nineteen seventy eight when the Red Sox
Speaker 3: lost the Bucky Dank Game. The Dodgers lost the World
Speaker 3: Series to the Yankees, and so it felt like the
Speaker 3: Yankees were there Nemesis two and many Ramirez ended up
Speaker 3: going out there, Derek Low, Bill Miller, Dave Roberts as
Speaker 3: the manager. Now, so there's always been a lot of ties.
Speaker 3: I think I'm as spend Way West a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, no, Dave Roberts a great guy, obviously the
Speaker 2: hero of Game four, and without without his speed, that
Speaker 2: the story might have been very different in two thousand
Speaker 2: and four. Yeah, it's it's amazing. We're all sports fans
Speaker 2: in Boston. I don't think there's maybe Philadelphia, but we're
Speaker 2: a very passionate city and we've had we've been blessed,
Speaker 2: and let's hope that the Red Sox can bounce back.
Speaker 2: A lot of good guys coming up. Remember the I
Speaker 2: think that the truck leaves for the Fenway truck. I
Speaker 2: think leaves in about one hundred days, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be too much or an optimist,
Speaker 2: but the truck leaves sometime around February sixth, I'm sure.
Speaker 2: And so this this too shall pass, and spring will spring,
Speaker 2: and we will We'll have our hopes we kindled, that's
Speaker 2: for sure. Chad. I love the conversation with every time.
Speaker 2: Thank you. I didn't realize you were so young. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know this stuff. You're a sports guy. I love it.
Speaker 2: I love it. Thank you.
Speaker 3: So I'm on the other side of fifty two, but
Speaker 3: not by that much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, Well you're in a far better place
Speaker 2: than I have, that's for sure. Thanks Chad.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Dan, talking great talk with you as well.
Speaker 2: We get back. We're going to talk about a very
Speaker 2: interesting phenomenon with a neurologist from Boston University, doctor Andrew Budson.
Speaker 2: Young people. Young people are suffering memory loss, something you
Speaker 2: don't associate with young people. Doctor Budson will join us
Speaker 2: and explain what these studies find and maybe even give
Speaker 2: us some idea about what it means. We'll be back
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Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: Nightside Studios on WBZ the News Radio.
Speaker 2: Delighted to be joined by doctor Andrew Budson. He's a
Speaker 2: neurologist at Boston University. And really interesting article that we
Speaker 2: saw in the Globe magazine people in their thirties and
Speaker 2: forties facing unprecedented wave of memory problems. Doctor Judson tell
Speaker 2: me it's not so. I mean, this is frightening.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, the good thing is I don't think
Speaker 1: it's a sign of any sort of disease or pathology.
Speaker 1: I think it's a combination of the technological challenges that
Speaker 1: are being thrown to us to remember every day, with
Speaker 1: a lot of people both young and old, not perhaps
Speaker 1: doing the best lifestyle activities to help their memory.
Speaker 2: So give us an example of, well, the lifestyle activities
Speaker 2: that they shouldn't be doing, which is probably easier, and
Speaker 2: then the lifestyle activities they should be doing. I think,
Speaker 2: having read the article, I know what you're going to say,
Speaker 2: they should do at least less off.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Yeah, exactly. So you know, a big part
Speaker 1: of it is that we need to do let's just
Speaker 1: start with the basics. We need to engage in aerobic exercise,
Speaker 1: we need to eat a Mediterranean menu of whole foods,
Speaker 1: and we want to stay active. We want to stay
Speaker 1: socially active, and we want to stay mentally active, and
Speaker 1: of course it's important to get enough leap. So those
Speaker 1: are the things that are important to do, and so
Speaker 1: the things to do less of would be number one.
Speaker 1: You know, don't spend too much time watching TV. There
Speaker 1: was a large study that showed that adults even in
Speaker 1: their you know, young and middle ages that were watching
Speaker 1: more than an hour of TV a day actually showed
Speaker 1: declines over the several year period of the study, whereas
Speaker 1: people who were spending time more actively, even if they
Speaker 1: were sitting at the computer, did not show the same
Speaker 1: type of decline. So you're telling that.
Speaker 2: Watching TV actually produces more decline than people who spend
Speaker 2: the same amount of time on the computer.
Speaker 1: That's exactly what's look correct.
Speaker 2: Me if I'm wrong, but I assume that watching television
Speaker 2: is a purely passive activity. You're sitting there exactly, you're looking,
Speaker 2: and you're being told something or being entertained. We're at
Speaker 2: least on computers in some fashion, you might be actually
Speaker 2: interacting with the screen or with someone.
Speaker 1: Else exactly right. You know, it's a well used metaphor,
Speaker 1: but there really is some truth to it that our
Speaker 1: brain is a bit like a muscle in that if
Speaker 1: you don't use it, you're going to lose it. You know.
Speaker 1: The brain, like other parts of the body, you know,
Speaker 1: is good at being efficient, and it's like, if you
Speaker 1: don't use your brain, your brain's get your body is
Speaker 1: going to be like, okay, well we'll put resources in
Speaker 1: other areas. If you're not going to use your brain.
Speaker 1: So using your brain is actually important in maintaining a
Speaker 1: good memory.
Speaker 2: Were these studies done in be you or were you
Speaker 2: involved in these studies?
Speaker 1: No, I was not involved either. Are studies that was
Speaker 1: originally done in the United Kingdom. It's called the UK
Speaker 1: Biobank study that followed over five hundred thousand people for
Speaker 1: a number of years, and they had to keep diaries
Speaker 1: of different things that they did, and then they periodically
Speaker 1: would get blood tests and cognitive tests and MRI scans
Speaker 1: and things like that.
Speaker 2: So what does this auga going forward? For every generation
Speaker 2: now starts using computers and I'm not again, I recognize
Speaker 2: that computers are not the worst problem. According to the study,
Speaker 2: it's just sitting in front of the television set. Yeah,
Speaker 2: what does this augur for future generations? Kids who are
Speaker 2: now in their infancy or in their baby years, what
Speaker 2: can parents do to make sure that their kids don't
Speaker 2: become over the next twenty years or thirty years, subjects
Speaker 2: of a study were with it will be a you
Speaker 2: know more you know, I'm using a metaphor here more
Speaker 2: brain atrophy because their kids, you know, became less active
Speaker 2: even than the generation that preceded them.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, it's exactly right. I mean, I think you know,
Speaker 1: the first thing you know, to help again, people of
Speaker 1: any age, including kids, to be able to remember things
Speaker 1: better is simply to focus and pay attention on whatever
Speaker 1: it is one is trying to learn. And so many
Speaker 1: kids these days are multitasking all the time. You know,
Speaker 1: they're doing their homework, but they're also chatting with their
Speaker 1: friend and the computer and some of them even playing
Speaker 1: a video game, you know, at the same time. And
Speaker 1: you know, to really be able to remember things, it's
Speaker 1: important for parents to help their kids and for you know,
Speaker 1: people of all ages do one thing at a time
Speaker 1: and really pay attention to it. And I think that,
Speaker 1: you know, the trick is to sort of learn how
Speaker 1: to be able to pay attention better. Some people use
Speaker 1: mindfulness for these types of activities. Some people just you know,
Speaker 1: work by shutting off the external world, closing the door,
Speaker 1: removing distractions. But those things will help.
Speaker 2: So let me ask you this. We have my wife
Speaker 2: and I have a two and a half year old grandson,
Speaker 2: and we think he's bright and all of that. What
Speaker 2: what can grandparents, you know, boomers like me do to
Speaker 2: help our grandchildren, particularly those who are in that you
Speaker 2: know that age from two to four where yeah, they
Speaker 2: maybe go into a play school or some sort of daycare.
Speaker 2: What can we do with them to help them learn
Speaker 2: how to focus and understand. I'm assuming, talk to them,
Speaker 2: spend time with them, read to them all the things
Speaker 2: that the parents have done for a long time, and
Speaker 2: make sure they don't become captive to television programs. I mean,
Speaker 2: this is you know, at one point back in the day,
Speaker 2: you had Barney and then you had you know, all
Speaker 2: the different Bertonernees, Sesame Street, which we're all pretty good.
Speaker 2: And now my grandson watches some of these I forget
Speaker 2: what their names are, but it's he focuses on that
Speaker 2: on these programs and clearly is watching. But what what
Speaker 2: can we do as individual, you know, grandparents?
Speaker 1: Well, I think Dan, you're you're exactly right. I think
Speaker 1: everything that you said is the right thing to do.
Speaker 1: So we really do want kids to spend time away
Speaker 1: from the screen. We want kids to be interacting with
Speaker 1: human beings, as you know, surprising as that sounds, and
Speaker 1: it really does make a difference. Now, of course, you know,
Speaker 1: in this day and age, you know, we all need
Speaker 1: to take a little bit of a break as parents.
Speaker 1: You know, I've got two children byself, not all of
Speaker 1: it up for their grandchildren yet. But you know, I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't say that my kids didn't didn't watch TV,
Speaker 1: and I can't say that I don't watch any TV.
Speaker 1: But it's just important that when you have the opportunity
Speaker 1: to have them engage in actual human interactions, that's by
Speaker 1: far such a better thing to do. And it doesn't
Speaker 1: have to be something planned and something super active. You know,
Speaker 1: just go for a walk with them and talk to them,
Speaker 1: you know, while you're you know, walking around, and of course,
Speaker 1: you know, if you want to do add a more
Speaker 1: active play, that's wonderful, But it doesn't have to be.
Speaker 1: It can be even you know, taking your children with
Speaker 1: you as you're going on errands and talking to them
Speaker 1: during those times. It doesn't have to be, you know,
Speaker 1: a definite scripted thing. It just shouldn't be sitting in
Speaker 1: front of the television all day.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm great advice. I'm a huge fan of you,
Speaker 2: doctor Budson, because I think that you explain it very clearly,
Speaker 2: and look, it's so important. It's just so important spend
Speaker 2: time talking, reading, interacting with your kids, even that's so important,
Speaker 2: doctor of Boston University. I really thank you for joining
Speaker 2: us tonight. Maybe have you back some night.
Speaker 1: And yeah, no, I'd love to do that, Dan, It's
Speaker 1: always a pleasure to be on your show. And I
Speaker 1: do want to say before I go that if you're
Speaker 1: interested in more of these things, I co ore co
Speaker 1: authored a book with Professor Elizabeth Kensinger that people can
Speaker 1: check out of their local library called Why We Forget
Speaker 1: and How to Remember Better? So that might be helpful
Speaker 1: for something.
Speaker 2: And is that book still available at Amazon and all
Speaker 2: of that? Oh, yeah, your library. But it's also great
Speaker 2: to give us the name of the book one more time, please.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's called Why We Forget and how to Remember Better?
Speaker 1: And it is available in your local bookstore online. It's
Speaker 1: an audio and kindle and all those different things.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you. I should have mentioned it for you,
Speaker 2: but thank you very much. I think that's important. That's
Speaker 2: the type of book should be in everyone's library at home.
Speaker 2: Thanks very much, doctor Butson. I do appreciate you make
Speaker 2: Boston University proud as a law school graduate of Boston
Speaker 2: University probably before you were born. That it's always great
Speaker 2: to have someone from being a fellow terrier. Thank you
Speaker 2: so much.
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you, Dan.
Speaker 2: Talk to you soon, not to have you back. All right,
Speaker 2: when we do come back, we are going to open
Speaker 2: up another area. This is a little lighter. We're going
Speaker 2: to talk to someone by the name of Andrea Sachs,
Speaker 2: who is a reporter for the Washington Post. She's the
Speaker 2: Washington Post traveler. We're going to talk about eight fall
Speaker 2: travel destinations with fewer crowds in better weather. I think
Speaker 2: the phrase is shoulder season. We'll explain right after the
Speaker 2: news at the bottom of the hour. Here on Nightside
Speaker 2: with Dan Ray on WVZ, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 1: You're on night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's
Speaker 1: news radio.
Speaker 2: All right, I am delighted to welcome Andrea Sachs. She
Speaker 2: is a Washington Post travel reporter. Andrea, welcome to Nightside.
Speaker 4: Hello, Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you, my producer spotted an article that you
Speaker 2: wrote about eight fall travel destinations with fewer crowds in
Speaker 2: better weather. I guess the phrase is shoulder season. I
Speaker 2: think I know what that phrase means. But let's explain
Speaker 2: it to everyone in the audience before we start talking
Speaker 2: about specific locations.
Speaker 1: Okay, of course.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So shoulder season, I kind of think of it
Speaker 4: as like an intermission between big so it's the season.
Speaker 4: It could be kind of like an off season. So
Speaker 4: just say you have a busy summer season or winter season.
Speaker 4: It's kind of like the in between seasons, typically spring
Speaker 4: and the fall. And so it's usually when the crowds
Speaker 4: are fewer, that a lot of the kids go back
Speaker 4: to school, so you don't have as many families, Prices drop,
Speaker 4: airline fares drop. Like overall, it's a really good time
Speaker 4: because it's a slow season.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's a very clear, concise explanation. It's exactly what
Speaker 2: I hoped you would say. And so here we are.
Speaker 2: We are in a shoulder season, meaning kids are back
Speaker 2: in school. The pace, the nine to five or whatever
Speaker 2: the paces that you're on, is going on. If you
Speaker 2: have some time off that you haven't taken advantage of,
Speaker 2: you have eight travel destinations with fewer crowds in better weather.
Speaker 2: Give us a couple now, remember my audience is here
Speaker 2: in New England, but we're heard over the entire eastern
Speaker 2: half of the US, both on the Internet and also
Speaker 2: because we have a very strong on radio signals. So
Speaker 2: hit us with what you've got here, Andrew, I'm looking
Speaker 2: forward to ok, going to take some notes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so funny because we had so many Our
Speaker 4: list was so long and we had to pare it
Speaker 4: down to eight, and a lot of them actually were
Speaker 4: in the kind of the New England area. We had
Speaker 4: Long Island, we had kick Cod, and we had Nantucket.
Speaker 4: So Nantucket was one of them, which I think goes
Speaker 4: along with markets Vinyard and Block Island if you want
Speaker 4: to clump them all together. Because during summer season is peak,
Speaker 4: as you know, and so prices are sky high. You
Speaker 4: oftentimes like things book up so quickly, whether you want tours,
Speaker 4: excursions or restaurants, and so shoulder season, it really it's
Speaker 4: flows down, Crowds dissipate, prices drop, there's less frequency maybe
Speaker 4: with the ferries or the flight schedules, but that's for
Speaker 4: your advantage because it means fewer people well on our list.
Speaker 2: Yeah. One of the things that I know, and I'm
Speaker 2: a Bostonian, but I'm very familiar with the Cape month
Speaker 2: has vanded less. So with Nantucket, prices during the summer
Speaker 2: really go up. It's tough to get a restaurant reservation.
Speaker 2: But now before you get to the Christmas season, all
Speaker 2: of these communities they try to do a Christmas walks
Speaker 2: and all of that. They try to entice people to
Speaker 2: come back during December before the snow really flies. But
Speaker 2: November is a great month on the Cape Martha's Vineyard
Speaker 2: in Nantucket if you have the ability to plan ahead
Speaker 2: and the flexibility to schedule. Give us a couple more here,
Speaker 2: because I'm with you totally of those three.
Speaker 4: Oh good, oh good, I'm glad I have, yeah, a
Speaker 4: mess of Bostonian agreeing with me with the Cape in Nantucket.
Speaker 4: But also we have a little further south, we have
Speaker 4: Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, where a place prices drop significantly
Speaker 4: for rentals, but everything is open. Actually, the water temperature
Speaker 4: is warmer or kind of more pleasurable in the fall
Speaker 4: than it is in the summer, because it can reach
Speaker 4: the eighties. So with the air being hot and humid,
Speaker 4: the last thing you want to do is go into
Speaker 4: like a bowl of soup. So it lowers a little
Speaker 4: bit to seventy, but the air temperature is still warm.
Speaker 4: All of the miniature golf courses are open, All the
Speaker 4: adult golf courses are open, boardwalks open, like everything is
Speaker 4: still humming along, but again without the crowds and high prices.
Speaker 4: And they're also bringing in some of the halloween stuff
Speaker 4: that's kind of fun, Like they have zombies walking around
Speaker 4: the boardwalk, so it reminds you that you're still in fall.
Speaker 4: That's a little bit of it. Endless summervel all right.
Speaker 4: Also absolutely, yes, going all the way west, we advance
Speaker 4: which is really well known obviously for its summer hiking
Speaker 4: and also for winter sports. But the fall is beautiful.
Speaker 4: I mean you have more time to like slowly walk
Speaker 4: on the hiking trails without thumping into people. And the
Speaker 4: wildlife is really vibrant, and so you have the elks running,
Speaker 4: which you should stay away from, but you can watch
Speaker 4: from a distance, and you know, all the wildlife is
Speaker 4: getting ready for its winter, so it's out and about
Speaker 4: doing its chores for the fall, and it's just standing.
Speaker 2: I missed exactly what state you were talking about.
Speaker 4: There, Oh, in Dance, which is in Alberta, Canada. Yeah,
Speaker 4: oh yeah, I moved this all the way up to Canada.
Speaker 2: That's good, okay, bamp okay.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeahs all around. And then if we go south
Speaker 4: of the border. We have Mexico City that was one
Speaker 4: of our picks. We do a two big events, Day
Speaker 4: of the Dead and also Revolution Day, and that will
Speaker 4: bring a lot of people into the streets for festivals,
Speaker 4: but for quieter times you can certainly go, you know,
Speaker 4: outside of those holidays, and it's a great time of
Speaker 4: the year to go to Mexico City. It's not a
Speaker 4: sweltering We have a Patagonia, which is a southern hemisphere,
Speaker 4: and that means a lot of the hiking trails that
Speaker 4: were closed in the wintertime are now opening up.
Speaker 2: And then if it's the equivalent down the air of
Speaker 2: maybe April.
Speaker 4: Or May exactly, yes, but it's still a shoulder season
Speaker 4: because there can be areas that are still kind of
Speaker 4: snowed over and it's still the weather is very unpredictable.
Speaker 4: But for more adventurous types, if they want to go
Speaker 4: down in the shoulder season, peer crowds and cheaper prices.
Speaker 2: Someone sent me a picture tonight of a place which
Speaker 2: I had never heard of. It had to be somewhere
Speaker 2: out in the west and was called I think God's Ledge,
Speaker 2: and it was a ledge that I think it might
Speaker 2: have been three feet wide on the side of a
Speaker 2: rock mountain. How the person ever ever climbed out in
Speaker 2: that ledge? I mean it looked like it was very
Speaker 2: accessible and that people would stop there as like I
Speaker 2: thought to myself, Oh my god, if you ever had
Speaker 2: a Disney spell, you're tripped. I know, you die of
Speaker 2: starvation on the way down because it would take so
Speaker 2: long to hit the ground. But it was it was frightening.
Speaker 2: And the picture I've never heard of this person. You
Speaker 2: might check it out. I'm not sure where it was.
Speaker 2: It was just it was this picture of this. I
Speaker 2: couldn't tell them this was a man or a woman,
Speaker 2: someone you know, fully fully dressed. They obviously we had
Speaker 2: hiking gear on and they I mean there was just
Speaker 2: enough room. It was almost like about a two foot
Speaker 2: wide ledge that you'd I mean, I don't even know yet.
Speaker 2: I don't think I would put one foot in front
Speaker 2: of the other. I think I would like go out
Speaker 2: there and shuffle. It was fun.
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, that's for mountain goats. Like, no, I know
Speaker 4: I'm supposed to be out there, and I know they
Speaker 4: have camp sites now, Like they put camps like tiny
Speaker 4: little slender tents up and like you have to hike
Speaker 4: up and almost like rock climb up to these tents
Speaker 4: that are positioned and they charge like hundreds of dollars
Speaker 4: to sleep on a ledge and try not to roll
Speaker 4: off the cliff. But yeah, I'd rather just kind of
Speaker 4: look up at that, or maybe look at the pictures
Speaker 4: you were looking at.
Speaker 2: So oh, yeah, look at the pictures. That's all I
Speaker 2: that's all I want. I guess this is somewhere in
Speaker 2: your smminit. I think, I don't know. It was called
Speaker 2: God's Ledge, so frightening. It was frightening. But they were
Speaker 2: people A lot of the time, you know, you hear
Speaker 2: about all these crazy people who decide that it would
Speaker 2: be a good idea to you know, go somewhere and
Speaker 2: try to get a selfie with a water buffalo or something.
Speaker 4: So I know I've written a lot of those stories. Yes,
Speaker 4: Vice and Gore the Blank.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So many people they think it's like Disney, and they
Speaker 4: think it's a theme park, and then maybe it's like
Speaker 4: the park rangers dressed up like a bison, or that
Speaker 4: it's I don't part of a cartoon, but these are
Speaker 4: wild animals that will gore you in some cases.
Speaker 2: I do think that perhaps alcohol might be involved in
Speaker 2: this process.
Speaker 5: It could be.
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Speaker 4: Well, I'm actually I'm from the area, so I know,
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Speaker 4: Take you care about shoulder season?
Speaker 2: Talk soon? Okay, thank you so much.
Speaker 4: Your night.
Speaker 2: Of course, in shoulder season, which is October, one of
Speaker 2: the things football and tailgate parties, we're gonna be talking
Speaker 2: with a doctor from the Florida Wellness Institute, doctor Julie Gatza,
Speaker 2: about some tips to prevent food board illness at your
Speaker 2: next tailgate party. You do not want food board illness
Speaker 2: at your next tailgate party. Will tell you how to
Speaker 2: avoid it right after this break on Nightside.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: night Side Studio. I'm WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: Well, how many of you spend any time this weekend
Speaker 2: watching NFL football or college football? Or how many of
Speaker 2: you spent time at a game and went to a
Speaker 2: tailgate party. Well, one of the problems I guess at
Speaker 2: tailgate parties is sometimes food born illness. I mean, obviously
Speaker 2: tailgate parties are out in the open, and maybe the
Speaker 2: best protocols aren't necessarily always followed. So with us is
Speaker 2: doctor Julie Gatza of the Florida Wellness Institute with seven
Speaker 2: tips for preventing food born illness at your next tailgate party.
Speaker 2: So hearken close to the radio, folks and listen closely. Hi,
Speaker 2: doctor Gatz.
Speaker 1: How are you.
Speaker 5: I'm good, Thanks, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much for joining us. How much of
Speaker 2: a problem we talk? Are we chasing a problem here
Speaker 2: that maybe doesn't exist? Or is food born illness at
Speaker 2: tailgate parties something that we should be aware of?
Speaker 5: I think that it's very and I think that probably
Speaker 5: there's no real statistics on it. However, over the years
Speaker 5: of listening to people go to different types of events
Speaker 5: outdoors and party at doors, whichever it may be, there
Speaker 5: is a fair amount of food borne illness that I
Speaker 5: have observed and always wish that I had given them
Speaker 5: some tips that they could have done to prevent that.
Speaker 2: Okay, so give us some let's we got seven. But
Speaker 2: I'm assuming that part of the problem, correct me if
Speaker 2: I'm wrong, is that, you know, someone has the taco
Speaker 2: chips out there on the back of the station wagon
Speaker 2: or the you know, the back bumper or whatever, and
Speaker 2: everybody's kind of grabbing the potato chips, and it probably
Speaker 2: is is not the cleanest of circumstances.
Speaker 5: I mean, we've been listening to, yeah, we've been listening
Speaker 5: to you know, wash your hands for a long time now,
Speaker 5: so that's sort of a given However, I am of
Speaker 5: the old schools think that germs are good for you,
Speaker 5: and you know, there's a point where it gets a
Speaker 5: little crazy, but you know that's neither here nor there.
Speaker 5: I do believe that we need them to actually help
Speaker 5: to make a nice, healthy immune system.
Speaker 2: Especially no No, I get you know, I get that
Speaker 2: because they talk about kids get a lot of germs
Speaker 2: from dirt, you know, kids playing in the dirt. But
Speaker 2: so what's the cause? I mean, you know, you got
Speaker 2: a grill going there, and you got someone's opening up
Speaker 2: some beer cans, and maybe there's a bottle of wine
Speaker 2: or whatever. But so what's the cause? And then let's
Speaker 2: talk about the tips.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I usually think that the cause is cross contamination,
Speaker 5: especially with poultry. Let's say you're cutting up the chicken
Speaker 5: on a cutting board and you don't have the ability
Speaker 5: to wash that knife or use a different knife, so
Speaker 5: now you're cutting up vegetables or you know, you're using
Speaker 5: it for bread or whatever it may be, So the
Speaker 5: chicken juice will be on the knife. And then if
Speaker 5: you didn't clean the cutting board, you're now putting different
Speaker 5: things on the cutting board. Or let's say you brought
Speaker 5: that pan to the grill. That pan of the grill
Speaker 5: needs to then be very cleaned or a new pan
Speaker 5: needs to go in place, because again you don't want
Speaker 5: the chickeners.
Speaker 2: So now you've identified the cause, give us and I'm
Speaker 2: sure that the tips are going to address the cause,
Speaker 2: but give us some of the tips that people need
Speaker 2: to think about.
Speaker 5: So you know, one of the things is one more
Speaker 5: cause is making sure that you cook your food, you
Speaker 5: know enough, the way it's supposed to and also use
Speaker 5: the multiple coolers because you don't want chicken to be
Speaker 5: on the ice. But you know, one of the things
Speaker 5: that I've been doing with patients for years and years
Speaker 5: is giving them high quality digestive enzymes. Enzymes in general
Speaker 5: help you break down your food. It breaks down your
Speaker 5: proteins and your vegetables and your fats and all these
Speaker 5: different things that we need to make sure that our
Speaker 5: bodies are healthy. So a normal, healthy person takes them
Speaker 5: when they're eating normal meals or if they're eating junkie.
Speaker 5: It helps to break down you know, bad food as well.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 5: If you have food poisoning and you're starting to feel
Speaker 5: not so great. The company I use is called Absorbed,
Speaker 5: and you start popping a whole bunch of these digestive
Speaker 5: ins and they start to go to work in there
Speaker 5: and start fighting the toxins, the poisons, the fermentation that's happening,
Speaker 5: and you can really help to battle the symptoms fast
Speaker 5: if you get on top of it quickly enough. What's
Speaker 5: the name of that company again, it's called Absorbed. It's
Speaker 5: a vegan formula and it breaks down normal food, so
Speaker 5: you're getting most nutrition every time that you eat sor
Speaker 5: like you know, the like bang for your buck every
Speaker 5: time you eat you're getting nutrition, but also for food poisoning.
Speaker 5: It's also for inflammation. If you have swollen hands or
Speaker 5: your backfir it's your anchors are swollen. You can actually
Speaker 5: take these enzymes at night time with no food and
Speaker 5: it aids in breaking down inflammation, toxins and poisons and
Speaker 5: does a bang up job.
Speaker 2: So absorb it a B, S O or A B
Speaker 2: and then aid correct and is that product over the
Speaker 2: counter or is it found?
Speaker 5: You can get a higher quality health food stores, and
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Speaker 5: You also can get some free samples. You can get
Speaker 5: twenty percent off your order the first time. So I
Speaker 5: love it. I think it's better than a multi vitamin.
Speaker 5: And it has such a ribe spectrum of the ability
Speaker 5: to apply to just keeping us healthy and making sure
Speaker 5: that we stay that way.
Speaker 2: So this is the sort of item that you would
Speaker 2: suggest people incorporate into their daily you know whatever. There
Speaker 2: you know I do. I'm somebody who's I do zinc,
Speaker 2: and I do fish oil, and I do vitamin C
Speaker 2: and vitamin D, and I do a multivitamin. I'm big
Speaker 2: into that, And that should be something that people could
Speaker 2: incorporate on a regular basis, not necessarily the morning they
Speaker 2: wake up and they say, oh, I think my stomach's
Speaker 2: in big trouble.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Absolutely, And if you you know, I've been chiropracting
Speaker 5: for thirty four years and my biggest point is to
Speaker 5: fix people's digestion because when you have some healthy gut,
Speaker 5: you aren't holding onto inflammation. You are absorbing your nutrition,
Speaker 5: You're pushing toxins out, You're not reabsorbing things. Your immune
Speaker 5: system is not fighting a whole gut disasters. So by
Speaker 5: taking absorbed, it does a such a good job of
Speaker 5: helping to keep the gut is clean and inflammatory free
Speaker 5: so that you can do all the things that it's
Speaker 5: supposed to. So gut health is number one with me,
Speaker 5: and then everything else falls into suit.
Speaker 2: And I'm assuming that this is the time of year
Speaker 2: when people, getting back to the subject at hand, go
Speaker 2: to tailgate parties. Obviously they're not too many tailgate parties
Speaker 2: maybe in Green Bay in January and February, but not
Speaker 2: in places like New England or whatever. We kind of
Speaker 2: button it up for the wintertime of those places. Uh.
Speaker 2: And and again this is the time of year that
Speaker 2: all the tips that you mentioned about, you know, keeping
Speaker 2: things separate and making sure that knives. Is it smart
Speaker 2: to bring like some sort of a hot water container
Speaker 2: with you so you have some hot water to wash
Speaker 2: off the utensils if you think they're getting dirty or
Speaker 2: is that.
Speaker 5: I think that's it's a great idea. Or just bring
Speaker 5: extra utensils, or bring some of the you know, high
Speaker 5: intensity wipes where you can actually clean them right there
Speaker 5: with you know.
Speaker 2: Whatever it's that makes it all right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a simple one.
Speaker 2: Well, doctor, doctor Gatsa. Thank you very much, doctor Julie
Speaker 2: Gatza of the Florida Wellness Institute. If folks want to
Speaker 2: follow you or whatever, what's the what's the best way?
Speaker 2: Your name of Florida Wellness Institute. Which works easier?
Speaker 5: It can go to the Florida Wellness Institute's website. And
Speaker 5: I do have an instagram which is doctor Julie Healthy vibes.
Speaker 2: All right, sounds great, Thank you very much. I enjoyed
Speaker 2: our conversation, Doctor Julie.
Speaker 5: Guests meks too, Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 2: You're very welcome. Thank you much. When we get back
Speaker 2: right after the nine o'clock news, we will be delighted
Speaker 2: to talk about a point of law that both the
Speaker 2: ACLU and I agree upon. I suspect some of you
Speaker 2: will some of you won't. We'll get a conversation started
Speaker 2: right after the nine