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Speaker 1: Let's welcome Ronald the Three and Man Weaver to the show.

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What's Up Rodnie?

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Speaker 5: Look, I can beat you pick up basketball. I don't

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know about star on the rugby field. I have a

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lot of teammates. There were all Americans that won Roody

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Schultz Awards, So I'm.

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Speaker 6: Happy to see those guys.

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Speaker 1: Take the top of it.

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Speaker 5: Baby, I'll take the Okay, I'll take the compment. I

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do have a clip I need to send you guys.

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It's playing with my my brother friends. It won't go

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to the Internet because there's a certain tunes that won't

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Speaker 6: And it was an honor Jimmer.

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Speaker 5: When I played pick up Last Stars, I only shot

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logo threes been from half court and uh this was

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one that happened and ended the one on one game

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and I made it. So shout out to Jimmer for

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Speaker 1: Still, let's go from the logo Jimmer for that.

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Speaker 2: Let's welcome in uh Brett always bringing the hammer, Habit

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time show, What's up Habitime?

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Speaker 1: Did you guys see Mick cronin last night?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Man, he's crazy salty pet three. Oh raise your man.

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Speaker 6: He is uh.

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Speaker 1: He is always pissed off about something.

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Speaker 4: He feels like the he feels like the Walmart Dan Hurley,

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like he's trying so hard to be Dan Hurley, but

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like it's first of all, I don't get why he

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ejected his own player, and second of all, are you

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 4: I think he thought in that moment that everyone was like, Wow,

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you're such a loser for asking the question. He's like, oh,

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everyone's recording, don't you realize that? And then it's like, yeah,

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but dude, you're the one who looks like a jerk

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Speaker 1: He's just he's an old curmudgeon.

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Speaker 2: And maybe you're right, maybe he's taking a page out

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of uh of one of the greatest coaches in college

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basketball modern era.

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Speaker 1: History and Hurley.

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Speaker 2: You know, there's been other like just curmudgeony, like angry,

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antagonistic head coaches over the years. I think Bobby Knight

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was always engaging with if you guys, you know, pull

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up some some Q and as with him.

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Speaker 1: But he was also an all time great. It's mc

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cronin an all times right. I want a lot more

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Speaker 2: Cronin has you know, mke coronin has had a steady

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I think trajectory to the position where he's at right now.

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UCLA is a basketball school that is a basketball university.

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The football program has always been neglected. They should be

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Speaker 1: They have been. But that is a basketball school. That

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is being your own player for hustling.

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Speaker 2: I think the reason why he did it, and now

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it's real time, if you watch.

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Speaker 1: It like I'm watching it right now, and I don't

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feel like that's worthy. Are you watching? No, I'm watching,

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I'm watching the cliffs. So it looks like and I

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don't know which player it was, but it looks like

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he's like legs almost went out from under me.

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the far side. He thought it was an egregious, like

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Speaker 1: But it wasn't. It was actually pretty clean.

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Speaker 4: But how do like, how does that help you, like,

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it is a flagrant too that the officials are gonna

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look at it, see it an ejective. How does ejecting

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your own player do anything other than make your own

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players hate you and then you're the biggest story on

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the internet and you like an idiot.

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Speaker 1: He's trying to This is his mentality.

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Speaker 2: This is how in my study of Mick Kronin over

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the last few years has been uh one that has

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intrigued me because some coaches are always trying to create

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this competitive, antagonistic like accountability. I'm and like, have you

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ever watched Oh man, there's that. It's that drumming movie.

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Oh no, not drum dumb drumb line.

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Speaker 1: Uh, it was, Oh my gosh, uh oh whip Whiplash.

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Speaker 2: That's who Mick Cronin wants to be. Have you guys

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watched Whiplash? So the a young promising drummer en rolls

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at a cutthroat music conservatory and his teacher, his professor,

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his instructor, I wanted I can't remember who lazer Jakie

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Simmons just just ridicules and demolishes you, and he pushes

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you to like new heights and greatness and you hate

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him during the process.

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Speaker 1: You abhor him. Uh and then at the end of

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it all, you're like, oh, thanks for pushing me to

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almost suicide, you know what I mean, Like you made

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me the drummer, that you made me the basketball player.

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Speaker 2: And he just wants to get the credit. He wants

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to be the whiplash instructor. That's who he wants to be,

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and all right, more power to you. Maybe he has

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Like tom Izzo is always an interesting study because he

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gets after his players and he holds him accountable, but

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he does it in a way that like there's a

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mutual respect.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a mutual respect with with.

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Speaker 2: U c l a player, right, because he seems to

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go out of his way to create enmity between him

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and his personnel.

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Speaker 4: Well it's between him and the media. It's like he

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just hates everybody. Oh he hates everybody. Think this young man,

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I don't know.

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Speaker 1: The name of it is.

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Speaker 5: I have it Stephen Stephen Jamerson the second twenty four

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center sixteen.

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Speaker 4: I think they were down I think like twenty four

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points to Michigan State and he's hustling on a fast

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break to not give up easy points. Yeah, he's hustling

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to be the conversation with you get down there is Hey,

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appreciate the hustle. That looked like it may have had

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something extra on it. Let's not mess with that. But

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I appreciate the hustle. Not hey, you're hustling when you

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were down twenty. What you should have done is let

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him score. That's the message I get when you reject

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the guy for something like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 2: I mean I think, look, I try to have grace,

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to try to have a little bit of perspective, to

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put myself into their shoes, and in real time, like

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when I was watching it, I was like, Okay, it

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looked like it could be a flagrant and it looked

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a little bit aggressive.

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Speaker 1: But then when you go back and watch it like

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it was, it was clean. He got clean.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, oh heay, may But so he went out

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of his way to just to just piss off another person.

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Speaker 1: In his life. Yeah, right, he's like. And then he

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did a postgame and postgame, can I have the sound club?

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Speaker 6: Can we get the sound clubs?

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Speaker 1: Please? Okay? Here we go. Okay, so he's being interviewed

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by the media post postgame interview. All right, here we go.

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What was your thoughts in the student section, channing Hooker's name.

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I could give a rats ass about the other team

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student section. I got the overall the way that I

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would like to give.

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Speaker 7: You a.

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Speaker 1: Kudos for the worst question I've ever even asked. All Right,

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did you like the should take it? Do you really

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think I'd care about the other I don't think you

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care about they are here? You are Come on, dude,

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no reason, Yes you were. Everybody's standing here listening to you.

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Speaker 5: Everybody this is on camera, they can hear you.

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Speaker 1: I answered the question.

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Speaker 5: I could give a rat's ass about the other team

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student section.

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Speaker 1: I coach U c l A. I don't care about

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Michigan State students who cay.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's the guy that grew up fighting for

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his This is what it said, like he was fighting

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for his life, Like he's fighting for prominence, he's fighting

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to be relevant.

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Speaker 1: And so everything you say into is potentially like contention,

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Like it's there's contention and enmity between anything you say

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and do, because he's gonna he's just gonna give it

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back to you. He's like, are you rising your voice

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at me?

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Speaker 2: Like he streamedline that I mean a pretty docile question

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into a competitive, contentious enmity ridden situation where he's competing

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in like in a fight or flight mode every second

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of his life.

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Speaker 1: Does that make sense.

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Speaker 2: He's constantly complaining, constantly creating urgency, constantly creating a fight

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get pretty you know, things need to go smoothly in

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the way that they want it all the time. But

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this is like next level, this is insane and Bronco

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kind of push you and he wanted you to push

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I just want to give up or I want to

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Speaker 1: Does that make sense.

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Speaker 2: He's constantly trying to be alpha and like exhibit dominance

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over everybody, and you either you know, bend the knee

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or there's this like constant contention, and I wonder what

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out media members that that don't go in line with

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post games. Uh, you'll hear me maybe this last year

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Jackson Payne. We're asking the opposing coach, what do you

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think of the environment?

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Speaker 1: Why? Because the fans, by fans want to hear about

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what the opposing coaches think about their environment. It's a

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validation thing. It's like, oh, they like our environment, Oh

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we have the best. Haven't you commented on the Baylor

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environment just a couple of days ago? Was there? Yeah,

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It's like it's a docile question.

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Speaker 4: I've heard dumber question like that's And also let's keep

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in mind he actually never got to finish his question

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because he was interrupted the first time. And when he

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restated it, when he was told some dumb question and

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he tried to did he say that's a singular question

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or something? He said, that's this this the most the

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most singular, dumbest, the dumbest question he's ever heard in

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a or he's ever been asked, well.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Like he's going like even docile questions that are soft

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tossed that he what nck cronin knows that you're just

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looking for a quote for your local newspaper or your

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digital digital print agency, right whatever your media aid agency

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and entity is.

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Speaker 1: Does that make sense?

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Speaker 2: He knows you're phishing for a specific answer, and he's like,

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petuit about your question. It's not a good question, but

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he'll give you. He Actually, the thing is, he gives

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you plenty to write about. So it's a media member.

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you know, but you just gotta freaking we just play

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that sound bite. We don't even cover UCLA. Now they're

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in the Big ten. We're talking about it, and everybody

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else is talking about it because he's willing to give

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you quotes. So don't get mad when he gives you

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a quote that you just weren't expecting, even though you're

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fishing for a just like a nice easy warm up,

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like you maybe create a little bit of you know,

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synergy with him, maybe build up to a tougher question.

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Speaker 1: Nope, he's not even gonna let you do that.

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Speaker 4: Friend of the Show Kyle Knswerth tweeted out, I don't

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know why any player plays for McK cron and I

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would never play for that.

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Speaker 1: Dude.

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Speaker 2: Well, I can guarantee you he doesn't recruit that way.

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He does not recruit that way. He loves you up.

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I'm gonna ask a lot of you. I'm gonna I'm

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gonna mold you. And this is look at my Look

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at all the guys I put in the NBA. Look

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Speaker 1: Put in the NBA. That's what I'm gonna do for you.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna refine you, Mom and dad power

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broker like I'm gonna.

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Speaker 1: Get the most out of him. That's what I do best.

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That's what he's saying.

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Speaker 2: And then you get in right, You're committment is like

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now you've now you've stepped into the fire. I'm gonna

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make you walk on hot coals every day.

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Speaker 1: Every day. That's walking on hot coals with make cronin.

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Does that make sense?

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Speaker 2: Can you imagine me coming in to like us being

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nine sixty yes, be on the fans team and just

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like just like creating, just poking you guys, like just

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getting efty, just dejecting the show for I don't even know.

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Speaker 1: What kind of comment is that, Brad, What kind of

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comment is that? Really?

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Speaker 7: Too?

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Speaker 1: You're out done?

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Speaker 6: Wait? What?

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Speaker 1: Oh on what what did you say? It was the

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dumbest comment I've ever heard. I really, what's your IQ?

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What's your IQ? You know? Can you image? Just like,

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are you raising your voice to me? Are you raising

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your every Everyone can hear it. We're on the radio

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right now. I don't know why you're raising problem. This

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is just radio. Why are you getting so why taking

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it personal?

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Speaker 6: It's not a big deal.

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Speaker 4: Don't you realize how embarrassing it is for you to

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say that in front of all these people who are listening.

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Speaker 6: Embarrassed.

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Speaker 1: Man, We're all embarrassed for you. All right, we gotta

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Speaker 2: Our ESPN, the fans starting a lot to appreciate everyone

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college football talk. It's also stay tuned in the question

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of the day. We got roster updates, all of the

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new acquisitions, all the new transferportal places if you new

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Speaker 1: Coming at either off missions or coming out of high school.

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We'll get into that.

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Speaker 2: And guys that were most intrigued by We're gonna get

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into a couple of Cougar bites as well. Former BYU

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quarterback Jason Beck and now the Michigan offensive coordinator, was

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discuss why he left Utah for Michigan.

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned for that.

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Speaker 2: Also Brian Jefferies' voice of the Ears on the Wildcats

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Ky Kevin Young, head coach of BA basketball, addressed the

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media yesterday. Let's delve into it in the preparation for

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U of a first and Iowa State games. How much

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confidence do you have right now? And Rob right the

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third to step up with Richie out for the season. Ky, Okay,

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we're gonna get to that here momentarily. Some breaking news

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though that rates the Big twelve basketball. This is not

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good news for b for the Big Twelve already you

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lost Richie Saunders. B YU has been devastated by injuries.

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We've never seen anything like it.

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Speaker 3: It.

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Speaker 2: There are BYU fans that feel like BYU basketball has

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been cursed this season. I don't know, I don't know

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if there's voodoo dolls out there, what have you. But

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the Big twelve is also getting decimated by injuries.

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Speaker 1: JT.

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Speaker 2: Toppin of Texas Tech, one of their stars ruptured his

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Speaker 1: Right, is it didn't happen in the ASU game, right,

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or it happened to practice.

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Speaker 1: It was ASU game, right, So just give a little

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more insight. I was watching this game.

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Speaker 6: It was crazy.

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Speaker 5: He went down beIN on a drive. He knocked innes

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I forgot who the defender was and he just immediately

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threw the ball at a balance and collapsed, grabbing at

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the back of the knee, just like Richie was in

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the pass. And the difference with Richie, you know Richie's

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he walked off on his own power a little bit.

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JT did not put any weight and he was in pain,

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in tears the whole time. Going back to the locker

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room and Grant mccowsm was trying his best to say

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stuff in post game, but I think it was pretty

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evident that that was the ac of the minute it happened.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is horrible for the Big Twelve on

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so many fronts, right, Like you can sit here and

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talk about how good the Big twelve he is, and

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it's a gauntlet, and it's the Big twelve and the

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Big Ten, but you need to.

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Speaker 1: Be running on all cylinders.

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Speaker 2: Texas Tech is per Kin bobbed the seventeenth best team

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in the country in nineteen or seven.

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Speaker 1: They lost.

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Speaker 2: ASUSU has been competitive, look, but they're one of the

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bottom dwellers at the Big twelve.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 2: You know, anybody seems to can beat anybody in the

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Speaker 1: But this is not good. This is not good. This,

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this is a setback for the Big Twelve and obviously

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for Texas Tech. We wish JT. Toppin well in his

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ACL reconstruction and his recovery.

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because Tech Tech could have won some games in the

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NCAA tournament.

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Speaker 1: They are talented, they are very good.

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Speaker 2: Now from a BYU standpoint, you do got Texas Tech

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coming to your friendly confines to end the season. That

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looks a little bit more like a W So if

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you want to you know, silver linings here, it's like, okay,

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well we lost Richie, but you don't have JT. Toppin

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are We're already kind of thin with our bigs and

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keV has been a little bit dinged up. Me Hilo

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has been inconsistent. Hadeem has stepped up defensively, still looking

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Abdullah Ahmed has been just a rebounder, passer and hopefully

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a putbacker. But we're a little bit thin there. We

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don't have enough productivity.

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Speaker 1: Uh. And JT.

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in college basketball. So it's a little bit easier of

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a game without him. Now let's get back to it.

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How much confidence do you have in Rob right the

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Speaker 1: Khy not hearing it?

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lot of ways has been the flag bear of just

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the Kevin Young era, so to speak. You know, just

476
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from day one, you know, when he committed to coming

477
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back here, and then everything that he did last year

478
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,799
and this year, you know, in a lot of ways,

479
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just a poster child of everything that we were trying

480
00:21:50,079 --> 00:21:53,079
to do here. And so for that, I'll forever be

481
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grateful for Richie. I think he's everything that's great about

482
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a college basketball player. The amount of people include booting

483
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,200
opposing coaches within our league that reached out to me,

484
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,519
you know about Richie in the last couple of days,

485
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I think says a lot about him.

486
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Speaker 6: Thing I love about him is just how much of

487
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a self made guy he is.

488
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Speaker 7: He's he's got himself to the point he's at because

489
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of sheer work and motor and effort and uh want

490
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to and and paid his dues and got a lot better.

491
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You know, it's rare in this day and age, you know,

492
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for a guy to do what he did here at

493
00:22:26,319 --> 00:22:29,640
b YU. And then lastly, just his commitment to b YU,

494
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you know, his commitment to the community, to the university,

495
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the mission of the university.

496
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Speaker 6: You know, he's a BYU legend and forever and always

497
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will be.

498
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Speaker 7: And I just want to thank him and his family

499
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and everybody that's associated with him for the type of

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young man he is.

501
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Speaker 6: Now to the question you asked about Rob scoring more, Yes, I.

502
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Speaker 7: Mean we're gonna need we're gonna need him to, you know,

503
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,440
be a play finisher a lot, a lot in conjunction

504
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with the play maker. You know, I think the way

505
00:22:55,839 --> 00:22:58,599
he's shooting the ball both from three, you know, and

506
00:22:58,759 --> 00:23:02,799
at the basket has been extremely impressive, and it allows

507
00:23:02,839 --> 00:23:04,720
AJ to play on the ball a little bit more

508
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,440
and gives us another kind of guy who can kind

509
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of space the floor and be a, like I said,

510
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a play finisher. So you know, Rob and AJ and everybody,

511
00:23:13,039 --> 00:23:14,519
quite frankly is gonna have a lot.

512
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Speaker 6: Of things on their plate.

513
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Speaker 7: And I know those guys are you know, those two

514
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in particular are built for this type of thing.

515
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Speaker 1: So let's break this down. Let's start with Richie first.

516
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Speaker 2: I loved how he deemed and dubbed Richie Saunders the

517
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flag bearer of the k Y Kevin Young era.

518
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Speaker 1: You hear us discuss a lot.

519
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Speaker 2: I mean, look, I've been doing this show since you know,

520
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two thousand and eleven, twenty and twelve, and we've constantly

521
00:23:46,039 --> 00:23:52,400
discussed the terminology that Bronco I feel initiated Bronco Man

522
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,640
and ahole former head coach would be Way Football, he dubbed.

523
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He created a mantra that the tudent athletes needed to embody,

524
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,640
in particularly the football players. They needed to be the

525
00:24:04,799 --> 00:24:09,519
flag bearers of the university, obviously abiding by the the

526
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the regulations, the the.

527
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Speaker 1: The honor code, right embodying that net spirit.

528
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Speaker 2: Morally, ethnically, spiritually of Brigham Young University and also magnifying

529
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like their their familial name too. I mean, you represent

530
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more than just you know BYU when you're at buy

531
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you represent your family. Like anyone that falls short, you're

532
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,200
doing a disservice to your family as well. You're a

533
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,039
flag bearer for your family, for the faith many times,

534
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and for the university. And so Richie Saunders completely encapsulated

535
00:24:43,319 --> 00:24:46,000
embodies everything that you want in a young man. Every

536
00:24:46,599 --> 00:24:51,039
single dad out there, every dad that has a son

537
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or daughter right, they want them to be like unto

538
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Richie Saunders, a kid that's willing to go to the

539
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gym the local church at four point thirty five am

540
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,079
to get shots up throughout his youth, you know what

541
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I mean, that's a special thing.

542
00:25:07,839 --> 00:25:09,519
Speaker 1: And a dad the two that's willing to go and

543
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do it.

544
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Speaker 2: But a self starter, a humble, hungry and obedience yet

545
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you know kind of still you know, an individual that

546
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has his own personal vision of what he wants and

547
00:25:22,759 --> 00:25:26,720
his path and he's willing to to make sacrifices in

548
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:27,759
order to get there.

549
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Speaker 1: And he was the hardest worker on the team. And

550
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so that's why it's so devastating.

551
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Speaker 2: I think in a number of fronts, and he chose

552
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:41,000
Richie Saunders, chose Kevin Young and BYU over Kentucky and

553
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:45,480
his former coach Mark Pope that recruited him and got

554
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him to BYU. And I know, I know Richie grew

555
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,160
up being a Bay fan of all those things loyal,

556
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:51,759
strong and true.

557
00:25:51,799 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 1: But still, I mean those those entities.

558
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 2: The money comes calling, the limelight comes colin the biggest

559
00:25:59,039 --> 00:26:01,039
stages in college back like, it's.

560
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Speaker 1: Hard to turn that down. It really is. So the

561
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:06,279
flag bearer, Richie.

562
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Speaker 2: There's been a few players in in BA football, BA basketball,

563
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,799
has Dad really encompassed everything that you want in a player.

564
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,839
Jimmer is one of those guys right on and off

565
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,279
the court on football, Taysom Hill on and off the

566
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:24,119
football field. There's there's there's really some of these iconic

567
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,640
people and you hate to see their careers cut short

568
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,519
due to injury. Taysom was one of those guys, obviously,

569
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and Richie was one of those guys that whose career

570
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just didn't.

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Speaker 1: End up maybe with the grand finale that they deserve.

572
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Speaker 4: The coolest thing to me about Richie is I've pulled

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up his stats from his entire career and you just

574
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go and look at what he was able to do

575
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,279
his freshman year and growing to his sophomore year and

576
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to his junior year, and now to his to his

577
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senior year.

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Speaker 1: Like, this is a guy who in the you kind

579
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of outline this.

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Speaker 4: In the world of college athletics, this doesn't happen because

581
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as soon as any other school sees, hey, you might

582
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,279
have something, but your school is not giving you the

583
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,839
status of being the number one guy. We're gonna come

584
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,920
calling and take you somewhere else where you are the

585
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big man on campus, somewhere else.

586
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Speaker 1: And never once was that ever.

587
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Speaker 4: I mean, Richie probably I'm sure was offered that at

588
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some point where they were like, hey, there's other guys

589
00:27:23,559 --> 00:27:25,160
ahead of you, we'd love to have you and.

590
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,319
Speaker 1: Let you play more minutes over here and maybe throw

591
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:28,880
you more ani al money. I don't know.

592
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Speaker 4: Basketball was always about basketball for Richie Saunders, and it

593
00:27:33,319 --> 00:27:36,640
was always about getting better. And there's no part of

594
00:27:36,759 --> 00:27:39,319
Richie Saunders that was ever born on third base. There

595
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,039
was no part of this guy that was ever given anything.

596
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,759
He had to earn and work for everything. And so yeah,

597
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:50,920
it's a bummer that this story didn't get the fairytale

598
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,119
ending that we probably would have wanted, which would have

599
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,279
been Richie Saunders playing in the Nsanabillity Tournament. But you

600
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,599
know what, last time I checked, there are a few

601
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,200
college coaches who have an NBA rolldecks, like guys like

602
00:28:04,319 --> 00:28:08,960
Kevin Young. And I'm sure Kevin Young and Richie's team

603
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,759
are going to find a way to get him drafted somewhere,

604
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,759
because again, it's not like once he goes to the league, oh,

605
00:28:15,839 --> 00:28:17,920
you just take away this gift or this talent and

606
00:28:18,039 --> 00:28:21,279
Richie's over. No, no, no, Richie can do everything and

607
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,599
he'll find a way to make his minutes mean something.

608
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,519
So it is a bummer that Richie doesn't get to

609
00:28:27,559 --> 00:28:29,559
finish this season the way that he would have liked

610
00:28:29,599 --> 00:28:30,799
to or the way that we would have liked to.

611
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Speaker 1: But I'd be willing to bet.

612
00:28:32,599 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 2: This is not the end of the Richie Saunders story. No,

613
00:28:35,079 --> 00:28:36,519
I mean, I look, he's going to continue to play.

614
00:28:36,519 --> 00:28:39,240
He's gonna come back bigger, stronger, faster, better than ever.

615
00:28:39,559 --> 00:28:43,279
And it's just unfortunate that it ended this way.

616
00:28:43,359 --> 00:28:46,839
Speaker 8: Vig your thoughts to your point, every one of those

617
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:51,200
guys you mentioned have solid pops that yeah, took them

618
00:28:51,279 --> 00:28:54,359
under their wing and were there for them, mentored them,

619
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,880
you know, And a good example for Dan's out there

620
00:28:59,039 --> 00:28:59,200
and a.

621
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Speaker 1: Big brother too. Yeah, TJ was pivotal in Jimmer's uh development,

622
00:29:04,279 --> 00:29:04,880
I think yep.

623
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:10,319
Speaker 8: But a good indication of of how important, as you mentioned,

624
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and kudos to you, how important it is to have

625
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,720
those guys, those mentors, your your dad out there, you know, uh,

626
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,400
following a good lead there.

627
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,839
Speaker 2: Hey, I always say it, Uh, mammals need mentors. We

628
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,960
all we all need mentors, man.

629
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:33,039
Speaker 1: Uh. And the best mentors, Uh, they they they produce

630
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,599
high level people. That's uh, that's just what happens.

631
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:35,839
Speaker 6: Guys.

632
00:29:36,119 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 2: Let's think a brief time out. We'll be back with

633
00:29:37,759 --> 00:29:40,599
more soundbites from Ky. We just got into one there

634
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,440
because it was so impactful and uh, actually, let's let's

635
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,720
do one more here. Let's do one more here, number

636
00:29:46,759 --> 00:29:49,079
two before we go to break, Ronald, let me know

637
00:29:49,079 --> 00:29:51,680
when you got a cute up okay, with Richie being

638
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,759
a b AU guy and bleeding blue, the transfer portal

639
00:29:53,799 --> 00:29:56,960
and college basketball atmosphere doesn't have guys like that anymore.

640
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,039
Speaker 1: How important is it to find guys like that to

641
00:29:59,119 --> 00:30:01,680
build your program? You know?

642
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,039
Speaker 7: It's a it's a great question, and one if I

643
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,599
was a lifelong college coach, I would probably have a

644
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,279
better answer for you. I mean, this is the iteration

645
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,720
of college basketball that I know. You know, I can

646
00:30:11,799 --> 00:30:13,680
only imagine what it was like back in the day

647
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,119
when you can you know, you could have you know,

648
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,200
the same players for three to four years.

649
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Speaker 6: I mean, that's you know, that's that's amazing, you know.

650
00:30:21,119 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 7: I think in the NBA world, I think about the

651
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,359
Spurs and the Bulls and the Warriors and these teams,

652
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,599
even some of my short stints, like with with the

653
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,680
Suns where we had where you're getting the same guys

654
00:30:31,799 --> 00:30:34,759
year after year. I mean, that's how you build continuity.

655
00:30:34,839 --> 00:30:37,240
And it's very it's very difficult in this day and age.

656
00:30:38,599 --> 00:30:40,359
Speaker 6: And so you ask how.

657
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Speaker 1: Important is it.

658
00:30:41,079 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 7: I mean, if you can do it, I think it's

659
00:30:42,799 --> 00:30:46,799
wildly important. How likely and realistic is it? That's a

660
00:30:46,839 --> 00:30:47,640
whole other question.

661
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:49,039
Speaker 1: Now.

662
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Speaker 6: I do think at b YU specifically.

663
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Speaker 7: You know, there's guys that are drawn to b YU

664
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,680
for for reasons that are greater than basketball, and maybe

665
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,920
we can build on, you know, some of those young men.

666
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,640
We have a couple coming in and you know, in

667
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:05,200
this recruiting class. But even that that's not a that's

668
00:31:05,279 --> 00:31:08,519
not a shoe in right, I think you still have to.

669
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:10,400
You know, at the end of the day, you still

670
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,279
have to help young men get better. You have to

671
00:31:12,359 --> 00:31:13,960
prove to them that you know what you're doing so

672
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,599
they're invested in your program. And then like it or not,

673
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,079
the economics have to match for both parties. And that's

674
00:31:19,079 --> 00:31:20,640
a challenge, there's no getting around it.

675
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know, i'd have to maybe listen to

676
00:31:26,319 --> 00:31:28,400
do he say, Hey, he's not a shoeing in the NBA?

677
00:31:28,519 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 6: Is that?

678
00:31:29,039 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: Is that what he said?

679
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 2: Is that Richie beut regarding Richie? Is that what he

680
00:31:32,759 --> 00:31:36,200
was alluding to? We have to listen to it again. Yeah,

681
00:31:36,279 --> 00:31:38,519
let's go back real quick and read between the lines here.

682
00:31:38,559 --> 00:31:42,000
But one thing I'll all point out, with Richie's injury

683
00:31:43,039 --> 00:31:47,640
and Brodie Koslowski season any injury, and Dawson Baker season

684
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,920
any injury, and Jared McGregor being on the bench, there's

685
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,519
not an LBS basketball player on this thame at b YU.

686
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: It maybe that it doesn't matter to me.

687
00:32:00,079 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 2: It's like, hey, you've signed up for the signed to

688
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,039
be a part of buyus. It's an ambassadorial tool, not

689
00:32:05,119 --> 00:32:07,480
only for the players that you're attracting, but for the

690
00:32:07,799 --> 00:32:10,400
players going out and having an impact in the community.

691
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,240
There's not an LDS player on this roster now that

692
00:32:13,359 --> 00:32:14,599
can that's eligible to play.

693
00:32:15,559 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 4: I think that's I don't know if like it's kind

694
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,720
of cool and not at the expense of anybody else.

695
00:32:21,759 --> 00:32:24,079
That's time what I'm saying, But like, it's just cool

696
00:32:24,119 --> 00:32:25,960
to be able to say, like, hey, you don't have

697
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:27,799
to be a member of the church to play at

698
00:32:27,839 --> 00:32:30,319
BYU because now they're at a point where they're not

699
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,319
playing any guys who are members of the church.

700
00:32:32,359 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: And guess what, who cares?

701
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,519
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter, that's not what it's about, because nobody's

702
00:32:37,519 --> 00:32:40,000
sitting here saying that, oh well, AJ's not a great

703
00:32:40,039 --> 00:32:40,720
member of the community.

704
00:32:40,799 --> 00:32:42,079
Speaker 1: He's an incredible member.

705
00:32:41,839 --> 00:32:44,799
Speaker 4: Of the community, and whatever his religious background is or is,

706
00:32:44,839 --> 00:32:47,640
it doesn't matter. He's an incredible member of the community,

707
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,680
as is Rob Wright, as is the rest of the

708
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:50,480
guys on this team.

709
00:32:50,559 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: So I think it's uh, I think that's a pretty

710
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,119
interesting fact. Edn't thought about that. Go ahead and play

711
00:32:55,279 --> 00:32:56,559
one more time, And then I have a couple of

712
00:32:56,599 --> 00:32:57,200
other thoughts here.

713
00:32:57,599 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 7: How important is it? I mean, if you can do it,

714
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,880
I think gets wildly important. How likely and realistic is

715
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,079
it that's a whole other question. Now I do think

716
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,720
at BYU specifically. You know, there's guys that are drawn

717
00:33:10,759 --> 00:33:13,720
to BYU for for reasons that are greater than basketball,

718
00:33:13,759 --> 00:33:15,720
and maybe we can build on, you know, some of

719
00:33:15,759 --> 00:33:17,920
those young men. We have a couple coming in, you know,

720
00:33:18,039 --> 00:33:22,200
in this recruiting class. But even that, that's not a

721
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,640
that's not a shoe in, right, I think you still

722
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,480
have to you know, at the end of the day,

723
00:33:27,519 --> 00:33:29,440
you still have to help young men get better. You

724
00:33:29,559 --> 00:33:31,079
have to prove to them that you know what you're

725
00:33:31,119 --> 00:33:33,720
doing so they're invested in your program. And then like

726
00:33:33,799 --> 00:33:36,200
it or not, the economics have to match for both parties,

727
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,119
and that's a challenge, there's no getting around it.

728
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,359
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So you're talking about recruiting there, and so.

729
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,359
Speaker 2: The the the LDS recruit that wants to stay there

730
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,160
for four years, that's not a shoe in. You want

731
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:51,960
to be able to do that. You want to have

732
00:33:52,039 --> 00:33:54,440
to trevid Nell stick around for four years. But you

733
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,720
also have the Tanner Tilson's that go to UVU and

734
00:33:56,799 --> 00:34:00,680
then go to TCU. You also have maybe a Dallon

735
00:34:00,759 --> 00:34:02,519
Hall who's been there for three reasons, Like look, I

736
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,519
want to be a primary point guard. I'm going to

737
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:10,000
Virginia and getting some getting some money, and and that's

738
00:34:10,079 --> 00:34:14,559
okay too. I remember going back to the you don't

739
00:34:14,599 --> 00:34:16,199
have an LDS player that's going to be playing in

740
00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:17,920
the NCA Turner in the Big twelve tournament.

741
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 1: Okay, you don't have any LDS guys. Is it a

742
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,280
big deal or not a big deal?

743
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:22,639
Speaker 7: For some?

744
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,159
Speaker 2: It may be a big deal for others, it's not

745
00:34:24,159 --> 00:34:25,719
gonna be a big deal. As you pointed out, really

746
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,880
good point. It's like, hey, this is not just about

747
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,880
acquiring the best LDS town Now, I will say, typically

748
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,400
BYU has gone out to get they need to get

749
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,960
the best LDS talent and retain them, develop them and

750
00:34:38,119 --> 00:34:40,800
then they can win. That being said, it hasn't necessarily

751
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,079
been a recipe for NCAA tournament success. You've gone to

752
00:34:44,119 --> 00:34:47,360
more nca tournaments without a Final four, you know, appearance.

753
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,360
I remember how big of a deal I think Mark

754
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:53,360
Pope and his staff made about And I think, Ronald

755
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,239
you remember this, you were you were part of the show.

756
00:34:55,639 --> 00:34:59,920
I remember when like Jackson Robinson, Rudy Williams, Gideon, George

757
00:35:00,639 --> 00:35:02,960
Fos Traiory and it may have been a tiki ali

758
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,880
a tiki start. Oh yeah, it was Alex Barcelo who

759
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,800
got the start as well. Yes, it was yeah, yeah,

760
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,480
well no, it was two thousand. I thought it was

761
00:35:11,519 --> 00:35:15,199
twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three, the year maybe.

762
00:35:15,119 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 5: Jumping another year because Alex, Gideon and Fus and Rudy

763
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,119
at one point I think we're all or might have

764
00:35:20,119 --> 00:35:20,480
been the year.

765
00:35:20,559 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was only there for one year. I think

766
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:23,000
it was a No.

767
00:35:23,159 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 2: Number one was that I can't think it was an

768
00:35:24,519 --> 00:35:29,360
all African American or African starting lineup, right that that

769
00:35:29,639 --> 00:35:32,760
was one element, And then there was maybe a like

770
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,760
the starting lineup had no LDS guys in it.

771
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,599
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that was the year before the non Alds

772
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,440
and next year was the African American one.

773
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,039
Speaker 1: Na I got you. Yeah yeah. Does that make sense

774
00:35:40,079 --> 00:35:40,920
that it was two fold?

775
00:35:41,039 --> 00:35:41,559
Speaker 6: That's crazy.

776
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, look, this is this has never happened.

777
00:35:44,519 --> 00:35:47,639
Speaker 2: It's happened in the modern era once again, a modern era,

778
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,599
I would say, I.

779
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,079
Speaker 1: Called it anomaly. This is this has never happened before.

780
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,159
Speaker 2: And like I said, some people say there's a good thing,

781
00:35:57,199 --> 00:35:59,280
some people think it's it's a bad thing. You still

782
00:36:00,159 --> 00:36:02,719
I think, k why his coaching staff are trying to

783
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:08,280
figure out, Okay, what does our the composition of our

784
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,440
team look like going forward. It's gonna be determined by,

785
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,480
you know, what's available talent wise. I remember talking to

786
00:36:15,519 --> 00:36:17,880
a few individuals that were associated with the prior staff

787
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,280
and they kind of felt that there was a drop

788
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:21,519
off in LDS talent.

789
00:36:21,599 --> 00:36:23,559
Speaker 1: For a while, you didn't have the TJ.

790
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:27,199
Speaker 2: Hawesers and the Eric Meekos and the Jimmer for Dads

791
00:36:27,199 --> 00:36:29,719
and the Brandon Davies coming through. There was a little

792
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,400
bit of a drop off there after Kyle Collinsworth and

793
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:38,360
Tyler Hawes went to their respective professional pass there was

794
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:39,199
a bit of a drop off.

795
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: And then we've seen a resurgence as.

796
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 2: Well over the last few years of high quality players.

797
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,239
But right now those players are not to be seen

798
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,880
everyway because they're all injured. For Ernie Coauselaskia four star,

799
00:36:51,039 --> 00:36:56,480
injured Richie Saunders, an NBA draft prospect, injured Dawson Baker.

800
00:36:57,039 --> 00:36:58,840
In my opinion, one of the more crafty scores in

801
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:03,559
college basketball suffer an ACL injury. Jared McGregor just a

802
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:09,000
role player, so it's it's factual. I'm just giving the facts.

803
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,280
My opinion of it. I still think that. I remember

804
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:17,000
talking with Coach Giles at Eastern Arizona Junior College, my

805
00:37:17,079 --> 00:37:22,920
head coach, and he was discussing his idyllic kind of demographics.

806
00:37:23,559 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 1: He wanted to build the core culture based off of.

807
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,760
Speaker 2: A lot of LDS football players, similar to what Rix did,

808
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,199
similar to what Snow has done, similar to what Dixie did,

809
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,760
and that was it was a great The WSFL was dominated,

810
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:45,239
dominated by Rix, Snow, and Dixie, and everybody else was

811
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,280
trying their best to compete. Glendale was good at times.

812
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,199
I was part of Glendoe community counts, but Eastern was

813
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,320
good at times. Arizona Western was good at times. New

814
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:57,079
Mexico Military Institute was good at times. But like so,

815
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,679
he was trying to it was an LDS city Thatcher

816
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,199
Safford President Kimball was born and raised there.

817
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,280
Speaker 1: He was trying to get like a third core.

818
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:13,039
Speaker 2: LDS dudes at Arizona at a utah out of Colorado

819
00:38:13,079 --> 00:38:16,039
where we can find him. Couple that with, you know,

820
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,920
he had a little bit of a Polynesian pipeline too.

821
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:23,239
We had some crossover there with culture, et cetera. And

822
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,239
then he'd bring in like the traditional Arizona guys because

823
00:38:27,519 --> 00:38:29,920
you have access to them, and then he would pepper

824
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,360
in like he went out to Miami, got a bunch

825
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,519
of skill guys there, California skill guys as well.

826
00:38:35,679 --> 00:38:38,199
Speaker 1: That's kind of how he he situated it there.

827
00:38:38,559 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 2: And I found it interesting because he was trying to

828
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:44,280
comprise in a perfect way in his mind the demographic

829
00:38:45,119 --> 00:38:47,880
and what he wanted to see from the culture and

830
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,440
how he was going to execute that culture.

831
00:38:50,119 --> 00:38:51,280
Speaker 1: How is k why going to do it?

832
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,039
Speaker 2: Do you take the best available type of player or

833
00:38:54,119 --> 00:38:57,559
do you take the best available type of player that's

834
00:38:57,599 --> 00:39:00,440
going to work and stay at BYU? I think the

835
00:39:00,559 --> 00:39:04,159
coaching staff at BYU is going to have to figure out,

836
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,920
as football is figured out earlier, the ability to retain

837
00:39:08,199 --> 00:39:13,159
and develop, to get old stay oled because football looks

838
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,960
to be getting old and staying old and retaining really

839
00:39:17,039 --> 00:39:22,880
well with their core culture. Can that be done at

840
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,079
BYU for BAU basketball in order to get to the

841
00:39:26,079 --> 00:39:28,000
heights that they want to get at.

842
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 1: That's the question, and I.

843
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 2: Don't necessarily have the answer, but it's very intriguing. We

844
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,400
got some good players coming up. Dean Rukers baller, right,

845
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,760
There's some really good players that are signing with BYU.

846
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 1: We'll see how it plays out.

847
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,360
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Grammy Award winning global icon DJ Khaliy will headline the

878
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Big Twelve Basketball Tournament after party presented by Venmo, an

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official partner of the Big Twelve.

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Speaker 1: The event will take.

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Speaker 2: Place at KC Live in the Power and Light District

882
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on Saturday, March fourteenth, following the conclusion of the men's

883
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884
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DJ college appearance will mark his first ever performance in

885
00:41:35,159 --> 00:41:39,239
Kansas City. And this is what I believe the Big

886
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,519
twelve state of the Big Twelve Tournament. Sorry, this is

887
00:41:41,599 --> 00:41:43,320
DJ Khyli the Big Towel tournament for one of the

888
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biggest and best, and I'm looking forward to bringing that

889
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energy to the tournament after party with the performance and

890
00:41:48,079 --> 00:41:49,000
connecting with fans.

891
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:53,079
Speaker 1: Young world, The world is yours. You are now and

892
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you are the future. Keep going. We the best, said

893
00:41:56,559 --> 00:42:01,639
DJ Khalid thoughts commentary follow up, gentlemen, all right, Big twelve.

894
00:42:02,559 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 4: I realized that I came in a little heated last

895
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,440
week when you announced an announcement and I didn't feel

896
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,519
like it lived up to the standards. To me, this

897
00:42:10,599 --> 00:42:12,599
is what you should have led with. Yeah, because this,

898
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,079
to me is a bigger deal than the led cord.

899
00:42:15,159 --> 00:42:18,320
I like you said, DJ Khaled is a global icon.

900
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: Everybody.

901
00:42:19,159 --> 00:42:21,039
Speaker 4: You may not know every single one of his songs,

902
00:42:21,079 --> 00:42:24,280
but everybody knows DJ Khaled we the best music. All

903
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,440
I do is win, win, win, No matter what, I

904
00:42:26,679 --> 00:42:29,360
like this. I think this is a lot of fun. Again,

905
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,599
this was teased a little bit by Bretty Normark because

906
00:42:32,639 --> 00:42:37,320
he said we want to celebritize the Big twelve tournament

907
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,159
and make it a destination that people want to come to.

908
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:42,599
I think they should have led with this and then

909
00:42:42,599 --> 00:42:46,199
announced the court afterwards as an accent to this first announcement.

910
00:42:46,679 --> 00:42:50,559
Speaker 1: But nonetheless, I'm happy. I tip my cap to the

911
00:42:50,599 --> 00:42:51,599
Big twelve. Good move.

912
00:42:52,679 --> 00:42:56,599
Speaker 2: This is DJ Khaled going to social media and discussing

913
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,719
his role in the after party earlier today.

914
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,599
Speaker 3: Yo, check this out. This is DJ Cavin Kansas City.

915
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,559
You ready, You ready for what's about to happen the

916
00:43:07,679 --> 00:43:11,519
Big twelve Tournament at the party in side Kansas City

917
00:43:11,679 --> 00:43:15,519
Live Powerlight District. I'll be performing live, my first time

918
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,760
ever in side Kansas City and I'll be performing live.

919
00:43:19,079 --> 00:43:23,440
Is going up March fourteenth, the Big twelve Championship. Win

920
00:43:23,599 --> 00:43:26,679
with us or watch us wing young world. The world

921
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,800
is yours. You're now, You're the future.

922
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 1: Keep going.

923
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:32,159
Speaker 6: We the best.

924
00:43:33,039 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 1: Another one.

925
00:43:35,639 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 5: Shy, Yeah, all I do is with you?

926
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,199
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there you go.

927
00:43:43,639 --> 00:43:45,639
Speaker 2: You know what that's I'm the one reminds me of

928
00:43:46,519 --> 00:43:48,679
I think I'm the one came out in twenty seventeen

929
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:49,559
after this song.

930
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 1: Do you know Kent Jones don't mind? So pull up

931
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:55,039
that song real.

932
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 2: Quick, because like I feel, I always get there like

933
00:43:58,079 --> 00:44:00,960
this ear for like certain beats and they're I don't

934
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:02,400
know if that's a copycat beat, but.

935
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 1: Oh I do know this song it is explicit. Yeah,

936
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,000
well yeah, we got we gotta we gotta pull it

937
00:44:08,039 --> 00:44:10,760
from the log obviously, we gotta get the edited. Uh, the.

938
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,079
Speaker 2: Okay, So yeah, tell me if this feels if it's

939
00:44:15,119 --> 00:44:18,880
the same vibe as the I'm the One song, It

940
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,320
totally I'm like, this totally feels like it's a great song.

941
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,159
Speaker 1: Ken Jones, that song came out in twenty sixteen, and.

942
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 2: Then I'm the One came out in twenty seventeen, right, Yeah,

943
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:29,760
it could be a little copycat action.

944
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Speaker 4: Can I say one more thing about DJ Khaled I

945
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:36,519
don't like coherently his sentences don't make any sense to me.

946
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,119
But I will say at the end of that sentence, dude,

947
00:44:39,519 --> 00:44:41,400
I just feel like I want to run through a brick,

948
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,119
Like it doesn't make sense. I don't know what he

949
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,920
actually said, but I'm like, yeah, you know what, I'm

950
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:48,239
with that.

951
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: I'm with that.

952
00:44:50,079 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 2: Hey, man, he's he's got his vibe, he's got his brand,

953
00:44:53,599 --> 00:44:56,880
he's got his followers, man, and look, brett Ormark's going

954
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:57,559
to maximize that.

955
00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 1: He's gonna tap into it.

956
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 2: He's trying to find new demographics, new markets, new people

957
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:08,079
to invite into the Big twelve, celebritized, monetized basketball world.

958
00:45:08,159 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 1: That's what he's doing.

959
00:45:09,519 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 2: And so all you wrestling fans there, they may have

960
00:45:13,679 --> 00:45:18,840
you may have acquired a few guys, right, so now sorry,

961
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,760
I'm the music guy that like is always like trying to, like,

962
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:23,599
you know, listen to songs.

963
00:45:23,639 --> 00:45:28,079
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, was this copy the beat? Similar? Does it?

964
00:45:28,199 --> 00:45:31,280
Does it feel that way? Now? I hadn't thought about it.

965
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 6: Before you said that.

966
00:45:32,039 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 1: When I hear it, I like this song, I do, like,

967
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:43,679
I really like this song. I get this song Trump's

968
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,000
on the one, I like the on the one. But this,

969
00:45:46,199 --> 00:45:47,800
this is, this is the song I think about when

970
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:48,480
I hear I'm the one.

971
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 5: Hey Ben, I'm gonna have to post another video of

972
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,360
me dancing in the studio during the show to the

973
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,199
Twitter you sent it to me like a week ago,

974
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:56,760
because that's what's happening right now.

975
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean this is this is this, This

976
00:46:00,199 --> 00:46:02,000
gives me a vibe. I mean, oh my gosh.

977
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 2: We probably played this probably three times when this one

978
00:46:04,519 --> 00:46:06,880
dropped over like a three month period because we were

979
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:07,599
jamming out to it.

980
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Speaker 1: Don't mind.

981
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 2: Ken Jones also a Band of the Day rotchby Royal

982
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Army dot Com being swaye created by fans four fans.

983
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,599
Real quick, let's get back to the sound bites K

984
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,840
why your head coach for the BAYU Cougar basketball team.

985
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,480
Discussing this B Way men's basketball team, you of A

986
00:46:23,679 --> 00:46:28,079
and Iowa State, K, Why what are the one or

987
00:46:28,199 --> 00:46:31,599
two aspects that make these freshmen so good where they

988
00:46:31,639 --> 00:46:32,880
can just take over games?

989
00:46:34,079 --> 00:46:34,280
Speaker 6: Yeah?

990
00:46:34,559 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 7: I mean I don't know if I could say, could

991
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,480
point to one thing that those disc freshman class would

992
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,679
have in common as it relates to their high school careers.

993
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:43,840
You know, I think this is just a historically good

994
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,800
class and it's all been I think you have to

995
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,559
give the coaches throughout the our league and the country

996
00:46:49,639 --> 00:46:52,760
credit where you know, to empower freshmen, you know, to

997
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,320
put them in positions so that they can showcase what

998
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,960
they can do. I think that's you know, easier said

999
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,320
than done, and and and to these this class is credit.

1000
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,440
I mean, they've all answered the call and then some right, So,

1001
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:06,840
you know, I don't know, I don't I don't know

1002
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,719
if I would point to one thing from their their

1003
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,119
high school careers. I just think it's a historic class

1004
00:47:11,199 --> 00:47:13,360
that that we you stumble upon, you know, every every

1005
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:13,880
so often.

1006
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, there's always hope when you have

1007
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,360
two potential first round the number one overall pick and

1008
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,559
another potential first round NBA draft pick and Rob Right

1009
00:47:26,599 --> 00:47:29,280
the third who we were discussing player comps, and I

1010
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,639
think JT nailed it on the head. He's Tim Hardaway.

1011
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,199
That's the player com for me that one. Yeah, he's

1012
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:39,039
Tim Hardaway man. Uh. And that's Tim Hardaway's senior, not junior. Uh.

1013
00:47:39,159 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 2: But uh, you mentioned Rob Right? Uh is gonna pick

1014
00:47:43,079 --> 00:47:46,079
up on the scoring front. What about those other guys?

1015
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,639
Canard coasted, Mehilo Boom, what about them?

1016
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1017
00:47:51,039 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 7: I mean that everyone's gonna have more opportunity. You know,

1018
00:47:53,079 --> 00:47:54,679
I think you saw it in the Colorado game. That

1019
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,639
was an extremely difficult game, just from an emotional standpoint,

1020
00:47:58,079 --> 00:47:59,960
one of the hardest games, if not the hardest game

1021
00:48:00,079 --> 00:48:01,840
I've ever had to coach in, if I'm being honest

1022
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,679
with you. But I think you saw where other you know,

1023
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,079
multiple guys have had to step up. Tyler comes in

1024
00:48:07,199 --> 00:48:09,280
right out of the gate, bangs two threes, you know,

1025
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:10,800
Coachitch bangs the big one.

1026
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:11,760
Speaker 6: Me high hits one.

1027
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 1: Uh.

1028
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,679
Speaker 7: You know, I think I think Moo Canards playing a

1029
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,360
little bit more within himself and and I'm gonna try

1030
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,199
to unlock him more. I think I've probably done him

1031
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,559
a disservice by trying to make him, you know, a

1032
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:24,800
strictly a catch and shoot guy when he has a

1033
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:26,800
lot more to offer that. I think we're gonna see

1034
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,599
a lot more of now. And then we you know,

1035
00:48:28,639 --> 00:48:31,280
we've got to explore other lineup combinations that we haven't

1036
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,239
looked at. And that's some things that we've looked at

1037
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,679
in practice. So you know, everything's on the table.

1038
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 1: You know.

1039
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,199
Speaker 7: I think where I draw the most excitement is I

1040
00:48:40,599 --> 00:48:42,639
Actually I don't know, man. I think I do better

1041
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,679
in situations like this back against the wall type of mentality.

1042
00:48:46,079 --> 00:48:48,320
Speaker 6: Uh. I've kind of operated that way my whole life.

1043
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,599
Speaker 7: And uh, you know, I'm as energized as I've ever

1044
00:48:51,679 --> 00:48:54,400
been as a coach, and I'm really uh taking this

1045
00:48:54,599 --> 00:48:56,920
challenge head on. And and uh, I know a lot

1046
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:58,840
of people are writing us off, and I'm kind of

1047
00:48:59,599 --> 00:49:00,920
you know that, and so.

1048
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 6: Are our guys. And when you've got a group of

1049
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:03,599
guys like we do.

1050
00:49:03,639 --> 00:49:06,559
Speaker 7: Who are good young men, I think that they're going

1051
00:49:06,639 --> 00:49:08,599
to rely on each other and band together. And I'm

1052
00:49:08,639 --> 00:49:10,559
excited to see what this iteration of it looks like.

1053
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:13,280
Speaker 1: There's something to that.

1054
00:49:14,199 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 2: I think that final comment, there's a good culture within

1055
00:49:18,559 --> 00:49:22,760
that locker room. There's not a whole lot of narcissism,

1056
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,679
ego centrism that's like me, me, me, me me, and

1057
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,639
they're filling down. There's a good culture there that they have,

1058
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,840
and good kids, good young men. The leaders still, I mean,

1059
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,239
Robin aj even though young, they're not that you can't

1060
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,000
lean into maybe Richie as much anymore and setting the

1061
00:49:39,119 --> 00:49:41,920
tone maybe in practice and putting in that extra work.

1062
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:46,159
But these are all good kids and there I think,

1063
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:48,199
you know, that was one of the things that stood

1064
00:49:48,199 --> 00:49:50,559
out to me. If they're coachable and if Ky truly

1065
00:49:50,599 --> 00:49:53,039
has his back against the ropes, they're back against the

1066
00:49:53,119 --> 00:49:56,920
wall and he's he's relishing and making doubters into believers

1067
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:58,840
with a sense of urgency. He's going twenty four seven,

1068
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:02,519
three sixty five. He's cramming right now. You know, he

1069
00:50:02,639 --> 00:50:04,760
may have been a little bit like there was not

1070
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,559
a sense of urgency through the first half of the season.

1071
00:50:08,679 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, you know, there it turned, It

1072
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:13,079
flipped the script.

1073
00:50:14,199 --> 00:50:16,559
Speaker 2: He started attacking them in the post game, saying their

1074
00:50:16,599 --> 00:50:19,199
defense was I don't know, he said atrocious or I

1075
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,920
can't remember all the adjectives he used to describe the defense,

1076
00:50:23,199 --> 00:50:27,159
the lack of intensity, effort, all those things. But the

1077
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:31,960
guys who I think responded well to that sense of urgency.

1078
00:50:32,599 --> 00:50:34,760
I hope that k Why, I know k Why is

1079
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:39,079
more than capable of coaching up guys. He took accountability too.

1080
00:50:39,159 --> 00:50:43,719
Though I have done Canard Davis Junior a disservice by

1081
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:45,800
make trying to make him into a catch and shoot player.

1082
00:50:46,199 --> 00:50:48,760
We all, we could all see it, that Sean Marion,

1083
00:50:49,199 --> 00:50:51,800
you know, looking shot of Canard like that, that thing

1084
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:52,519
that wasn't going in.

1085
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:54,039
Speaker 1: I don't care how many shots he.

1086
00:50:54,079 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 2: Made at SIU with no one guarding him, but that

1087
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:58,920
Sean Marion stuff just didn't work.

1088
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:00,280
Speaker 1: Now, he's got to get he's got to get to

1089
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:01,840
the rim. He's got to get to the free throw line.

1090
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,199
Speaker 2: He's got to go win another ways defensively, rebounding, and

1091
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:09,239
be a great basketball player. He can't pass up every

1092
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:14,039
shot that's wide open. But you want you probably want

1093
00:51:14,639 --> 00:51:18,800
Coastick and Mahai Loo and and Maras taking more of

1094
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,199
those shots than Canard right now, because he is shown

1095
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:24,239
to be a subpar three point shooter, below thirty percent

1096
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:25,760
three point shooter this season.

1097
00:51:26,199 --> 00:51:27,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the other thing I think is.

1098
00:51:27,639 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 4: And we talked about this with Bear a little bit,

1099
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,599
like Bear likes getting hit, he likes the physical contact

1100
00:51:32,639 --> 00:51:35,800
and sometimes that's what gets him going. And I wonder

1101
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,880
if Canard, when you know your whole job is, I

1102
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:42,000
don't do anything but sit here and shoot threes as.

1103
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: Soon as you miss too, he was picking popping, you're.

1104
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 4: Freezing cold because you're like, I don't I don't have

1105
00:51:47,039 --> 00:51:50,079
any other opportunities to do anything to really get hot.

1106
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,960
Whereas we've seen him in a number of games this

1107
00:51:53,079 --> 00:51:57,039
season sparingly, but when he's around the rim, when he's rebounding,

1108
00:51:57,039 --> 00:51:59,320
when he's getting put backs, when he's finishing at the rim,

1109
00:51:59,559 --> 00:52:01,920
he's really good. And so maybe that's what you do

1110
00:52:02,079 --> 00:52:04,320
to warm him up in other ways so that when

1111
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,239
he gets the three point line, he's not only thinking

1112
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,000
about making most of this opportunity at the three point line.

1113
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,280
Speaker 2: That look, this is the thing that kay Well is

1114
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,679
talking about there. Like to start the season, you had

1115
00:52:14,679 --> 00:52:17,400
a healthy for the most part, Kaba. Your high pick

1116
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:21,480
and roll game with Lobb Lake City was on point.

1117
00:52:21,599 --> 00:52:25,639
You could get with Rob Ritchie Aj. All of a

1118
00:52:25,679 --> 00:52:28,559
sudden there was a concussion. No more pick and roll

1119
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,599
is much hand issue. Caba has done. Caba has not

1120
00:52:31,679 --> 00:52:33,519
been good. So that takes me to pick and roll. Okay,

1121
00:52:33,519 --> 00:52:34,920
well let's go our pick and pop. Who do we

1122
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:35,639
need at pick and pop?

1123
00:52:35,679 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 1: Who get it? Threees?

1124
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 2: Well, Cannard is supposed to be to catch this you guy,

1125
00:52:38,119 --> 00:52:40,800
they're really not closing out on He got plenty of volume,

1126
00:52:41,079 --> 00:52:44,400
couldn't hit. He tried to force that didn't work out,

1127
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:49,559
and like he he wanted to keep the defense, defensive

1128
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:54,119
effort and length out there, which why Canard is probably

1129
00:52:54,119 --> 00:52:55,920
getting a lot of PT and Canard's got a pretty

1130
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:59,679
good handle. Carnard is a good basketball player. Is a

1131
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:01,920
reason who he's playing so much, and they keep kind

1132
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,199
of forcing him along. They don't want him to lose

1133
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,719
his confidence his swagger either. They want to keep on

1134
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:08,760
giving him opportunity. So I get that you're gonna need

1135
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:12,039
him at the end of February and through March. So

1136
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,039
I thought that was interesting, right, I thought, you know

1137
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:19,599
he k Why as a competitor. I can't wait to

1138
00:53:19,679 --> 00:53:22,719
see just how good he can coach up this team.

1139
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,639
This is going to be Look, there's plenty of talent

1140
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:30,559
on the roster, but k Why is making his money

1141
00:53:30,599 --> 00:53:32,800
this year. Remember he said in the college football season,

1142
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:36,840
Aaron Rodgers's gonna earn his dollars this year. And he

1143
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,880
got himself a pay raise because he earned it on

1144
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,159
the offense side of the ball. With Bear coming in

1145
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,880
after losing Jake and LJ kind of being a little

1146
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,280
bit deemed up finding a way to win in the

1147
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:52,000
Big twelve. You only lost to Texas Tech twice, like

1148
00:53:52,199 --> 00:53:56,159
a rod made his Hey, k why you got to

1149
00:53:56,199 --> 00:53:58,880
go make your money. Now we're gonna see how good

1150
00:53:58,960 --> 00:53:59,280
you are.

1151
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 1: Coaches that have a lot of ego, they will when

1152
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,920
they're losing, Like we still have the guys. We can't

1153
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,960
get them here. We don't have enough money, we don't

1154
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,639
have you know all those things, right, they're gonna we

1155
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:16,239
just think we don't have the guys, you know what

1156
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:16,599
I mean.

1157
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 2: And And now because k I had polaty of talent,

1158
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,400
now he's like, okay, he had he can go out

1159
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,920
and get not every anybody, right because there's still some

1160
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,000
limiting factors and getting all of the best talent to

1161
00:54:31,039 --> 00:54:33,679
b YU whether it's N I L or Honor Code

1162
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:34,280
or what have you.

1163
00:54:34,559 --> 00:54:36,320
Speaker 1: But he's got a lot of talent on this roster.

1164
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,199
Speaker 2: He went out and got guys that they thought would

1165
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:43,719
fit in roles and uh and and now he's got

1166
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:47,039
to coach them up. Good luck because if now, if

1167
00:54:47,079 --> 00:54:48,800
you get to the sweet sixteen, it's like that's a win.

1168
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:51,519
If you get to the sweet sixteen again, it's like, k,

1169
00:54:51,639 --> 00:54:52,679
why you.

1170
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:56,800
Speaker 1: Earned that that that W two?

1171
00:54:58,239 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

1172
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 1: Those players respond to him that way.

1173
00:55:02,639 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 2: This will be a really good study because if they

1174
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,320
go one and done in the tournament, then you then

1175
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:10,199
you can ask the question. Okay, and I'm not saying

1176
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:13,400
that this is that I have an answer for it.

1177
00:55:13,639 --> 00:55:16,119
But people will ask questions, how good of a coach

1178
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:20,559
is kay? Why he's got two first round potential first

1179
00:55:20,639 --> 00:55:23,199
round NBA draft picks and he can't get to the

1180
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:24,039
round of thirty two?

1181
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,679
Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Yeah? I understand all the season

1182
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,280
ending injuries. I understand that, and there's grace for that.

1183
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 2: But some people will say, it's like, well, you got

1184
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:38,360
plenty of talent. Still you're still a top twenty five team.

1185
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:43,320
You're a top twenty five team right three, You're you're

1186
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,760
you're on the outskirts almost you're on the periphery.

1187
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:48,800
Speaker 1: But you know what I mean, Like.

1188
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 2: He's gonna he's gonna make his money this year, and

1189
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,639
we're gonna see just how good of a coach Kevin

1190
00:55:56,719 --> 00:56:01,599
Young is. I I just think that there may be

1191
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,320
some He's talked a lot, and he's gonna talk a

1192
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:06,920
lot about it more as we go on in the availability,

1193
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,880
But he says back against the Wall a couple times,

1194
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,639
and he seems like pretty fired up about the fact

1195
00:56:12,639 --> 00:56:15,039
that these guys just know that nobody believes they can

1196
00:56:15,079 --> 00:56:18,440
win anything anymore. I just wonder if man, they're just like,

1197
00:56:18,559 --> 00:56:22,480
you know what, fit, let's just start shooting Alexi shoot it,

1198
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:23,639
Tyler shoot it.

1199
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 4: And I think there may be just something about like

1200
00:56:26,079 --> 00:56:27,920
you don't know what you don't know, and they may

1201
00:56:28,079 --> 00:56:29,760
just be like, hey, you know what, what do we

1202
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:31,280
have to lose? We're playing with house.

1203
00:56:31,119 --> 00:56:33,159
Speaker 1: Money right now. Nobody thinks we're gonna win anything anyway.

1204
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,320
Speaker 2: Ronnie pull up the transfer from Jonathan Tabanari. I think

1205
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:40,000
send it to Hammer time. We should put this out

1206
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,480
there because JT brought up a really good pull of

1207
00:56:42,559 --> 00:56:44,719
the day. He said, do you want to go all

1208
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:46,400
in on defense or do you want to go all

1209
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:47,119
in on offense?

1210
00:56:47,199 --> 00:56:47,519
Speaker 1: Right now?

1211
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,320
Speaker 2: And by that it's like Hadem right, he's gonna play more,

1212
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:56,079
right like adul Ahman, getna play a whole lot more,

1213
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:01,719
you know, just defense, defense, defense, or do you want

1214
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:05,000
to see coastick? Do you want to see them Russ?

1215
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,960
Do you want to see them high low Moore? All

1216
00:57:08,079 --> 00:57:09,679
guys that can shoot and spread the floor and you're

1217
00:57:09,679 --> 00:57:11,280
gonna run like a two three or one three one

1218
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,480
zone behind it and interchange that.

1219
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,079
Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Which route do you want to

1220
00:57:16,079 --> 00:57:16,199
go on?

1221
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:18,519
Speaker 2: I'm all in on offense and just getting shots because

1222
00:57:18,519 --> 00:57:21,000
it's exciting, and chicks dig the deep ball, right, and

1223
00:57:21,119 --> 00:57:22,199
we all in march madness.

1224
00:57:22,239 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: We just like to see threes raining down on heads,

1225
00:57:25,119 --> 00:57:26,480
right like we love this.

1226
00:57:26,719 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 4: I think this is the quote you're referencing. He said,

1227
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,360
there's two possibilities in my mind. Option one, you start

1228
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:33,039
ty them or Uss or a Lexi. Coast shoots and

1229
00:57:33,079 --> 00:57:35,400
tell them they're the greatest shooting in basketball history and

1230
00:57:35,599 --> 00:57:37,199
Steph Furry has nothing on me.

1231
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:40,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, they shoot everything. You forget defense. It's a race

1232
00:57:40,239 --> 00:57:42,000
to one hundred and forty points. And the time they

1233
00:57:42,039 --> 00:57:43,039
scored ten plus.

1234
00:57:43,559 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 4: Asked about the booster gives them ten thousand dollars just

1235
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:47,519
buckets pure offense.

1236
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 2: Well, the reason why you can do that is you

1237
00:57:51,039 --> 00:57:54,800
have two and even three I would say, penetrators. We

1238
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:56,840
have Rob Ryde who can penetrate. You have aj that

1239
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:59,199
can penetrate in in the crew double teams. And I

1240
00:57:59,239 --> 00:58:01,719
think even Knar when he puts it off the bouts

1241
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:05,679
versus other you know that two three spot. I think

1242
00:58:05,719 --> 00:58:07,440
he actually can get a guy on his shoulder and

1243
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:11,840
have a have a lane to the rim, get to

1244
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:15,679
the free throw line, and start meriting maybe a double

1245
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:19,199
on occasion when he's getting to the rim and getting fouled.

1246
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 5: I'm listening to you guys, and I just want to

1247
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:21,079
jump in.

1248
00:58:21,199 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: Can we have Ben in? Okay? Ben, you weren't that

1249
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:23,760
I know you were.

1250
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,119
Speaker 5: You always take your wonderful vacation to a place I

1251
00:58:26,159 --> 00:58:28,840
won't say, I'll let you say it. And you and

1252
00:58:29,079 --> 00:58:30,800
you gave the reins to Brett and I to go

1253
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,559
to Redmans Farm and to interview these players. And we

1254
00:58:33,719 --> 00:58:36,199
interviewed a certain player that said, and we all talked

1255
00:58:36,199 --> 00:58:37,840
to him when he came on the show, that says,

1256
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:39,039
he started talking trash to.

1257
00:58:39,039 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 1: Igort hitting threes.

1258
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 5: I don't I don't need just the offense, can I

1259
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,639
get some Tyler Maruss what mag energy? You know, my

1260
00:58:45,679 --> 00:58:48,400
favorite moment of the season last last year was was

1261
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:51,639
when a certain report had asked questions about the players

1262
00:58:51,719 --> 00:58:54,400
chirping at Arizona in the line and what mag And

1263
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:56,320
there's a photo of the watch. He's standing there with

1264
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:58,079
the me mugg as a black dude, like I dare

1265
00:58:58,159 --> 00:59:00,320
Caleb love to do something talking to him, what you're

1266
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:00,599
gonna do?

1267
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 1: Do something? Do something?

1268
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 5: Not only do I lock you up Until the last

1269
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,280
two minutes of the game till Tony Padilla wanted to

1270
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,159
get involved with his foules. I was hitting threes.

1271
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:08,039
Speaker 1: Can we get some of that?

1272
00:59:08,159 --> 00:59:10,519
Speaker 5: Like, can we get some some trash talk, like we've

1273
00:59:10,639 --> 00:59:13,440
missed seeing that from this team, Like a guy that

1274
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,159
is gonna hit threes and get a technical foul Like

1275
00:59:16,599 --> 00:59:19,000
I'm not saying that usually that's good, But can Tyler

1276
00:59:19,079 --> 00:59:20,760
hit a three tonight and it turn around with Arizona

1277
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:22,920
bench and look at Tommy Lloyd and put and point

1278
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:24,960
to his vein like do something, Like there needs to

1279
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:26,719
be some type of like I need some more fight

1280
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:28,960
like AJ has it. You know, you see him, you

1281
00:59:29,039 --> 00:59:31,119
see it from Rob, But I need these other guys

1282
00:59:31,159 --> 00:59:32,639
and they need to get confident. But I would love

1283
00:59:32,679 --> 00:59:35,280
to see Tyler Ben rain threes in the talk crap

1284
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:37,079
to the other team, like I need you to be him,

1285
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,119
have a hymn moment and stand on business.

1286
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 1: We don't. We haven't seen that yet.

1287
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 5: We seen like puppy dogs in the cage, Like I

1288
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:44,880
need the rod Rilers to come out tonight for real,

1289
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:45,239
for real.

1290
00:59:45,559 --> 00:59:48,159
Speaker 2: Sure, sure, I agree with you there. Let's get to

1291
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:50,199
a couple more sound bites here before we go to break.

1292
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,199
What do you expect khy from Arizona coming off two

1293
00:59:53,679 --> 00:59:55,639
straight losses and being down coepete.

1294
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I don't look that that's gonna be

1295
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,000
a That would be a goo great atmosphere if they

1296
01:00:01,039 --> 01:00:02,360
were still undefeated.

1297
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 6: The fact they've lost too, it doesn't matter. The bottom

1298
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:06,239
line is, it's not like, oh, we're.

1299
01:00:06,079 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 7: Gonna play extra hard because we've lost. You Once you

1300
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:10,119
play the game, you play the game. You got to

1301
01:00:10,159 --> 01:00:11,079
execute the game plan.

1302
01:00:11,239 --> 01:00:14,519
Speaker 6: So every team needs wins this time of year, especially

1303
01:00:14,559 --> 01:00:16,719
in our league. The standings are tight, they're you know,

1304
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:18,519
everyone's playing for something. So I don't.

1305
01:00:18,519 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 1: I don't.

1306
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 6: I've never bought into like you know, I say it

1307
01:00:21,519 --> 01:00:23,599
to my guys all the time. I wake up motivated

1308
01:00:23,679 --> 01:00:26,159
and so I don't need extra motivation. I'm sure they

1309
01:00:26,199 --> 01:00:28,800
don't either. We're hungry, they're hungry. It's gonna be a

1310
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:29,400
good ballgame.

1311
01:00:30,199 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 1: Oh, b Yu a heavy dog in this game? Is

1312
01:00:32,559 --> 01:00:35,599
it still a twelve and a half over unders? Pretty much?

1313
01:00:35,599 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 5: You dropped to eleven and a half, but it might

1314
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:37,920
be back up to twelve and a half.

1315
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,679
Speaker 1: I'll check, yeah, double check on that. Let's get to

1316
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:41,840
a couple more soundbites here.

1317
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 2: Ka, wellhy, how are you embracing the underdog mentality and

1318
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:49,760
how have you discussed that with your guys as people

1319
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:50,480
have written you off?

1320
01:00:51,639 --> 01:00:54,119
Speaker 7: Absolutely, you know, absolutely, you know I met with Rob

1321
01:00:54,199 --> 01:00:57,360
and Aju separately. You know, I think those are two

1322
01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:59,719
guys that you know, you know in a lot of ways.

1323
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:03,519
Can can you know, cement their their legacy in college

1324
01:01:03,599 --> 01:01:06,480
basketball with how they handle this this this time period

1325
01:01:06,519 --> 01:01:08,920
between now and the in the end of the season.

1326
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:11,039
Speaker 6: What kind of impact can they have? Can they elevate

1327
01:01:11,079 --> 01:01:11,400
a team?

1328
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 7: You know that's motivating in of itself, and so with

1329
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,480
the whole group though, Yeah, it's it's uh, you know,

1330
01:01:18,559 --> 01:01:19,800
it's a band of brothers.

1331
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,159
Speaker 6: It's it's it's digging in. It's some guys that hasn't

1332
01:01:22,199 --> 01:01:23,960
gone their way to this point. All right, well guess

1333
01:01:24,039 --> 01:01:25,719
what you want? More opportunity? You just got it. So

1334
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:26,800
now what are you gonna do with it?

1335
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 7: And so again I I'm I'm extremely motivated knowing that

1336
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,400
it's not gonna be easy. But you know, nothing's ever

1337
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:36,280
really that easy. So you know, you got to figure

1338
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,440
it out. That's the bottom line. And and like I said,

1339
01:01:39,039 --> 01:01:41,280
I told our group yesterday, Man, this is not new

1340
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:41,519
for me.

1341
01:01:41,599 --> 01:01:42,239
Speaker 6: I've been doing this.

1342
01:01:42,679 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 7: I coached in the minor leagues is for nine years.

1343
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:47,760
I've had my best player called up day game multiple times.

1344
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:50,400
I've lost multiple players throughout seasons. Like, you got to

1345
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:52,119
figure it out, you got to just on the fly.

1346
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:54,960
And you know, I try to say that to them

1347
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,360
so they that they would have confidence to understand that

1348
01:01:57,920 --> 01:01:59,639
they have a staff that you know, and it's not

1349
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:01,960
just I've got several guys who' kind of their career

1350
01:02:02,039 --> 01:02:05,639
path was that and so drawn upon those past experiences

1351
01:02:05,679 --> 01:02:07,760
for me, give me gives me some confidence, and I

1352
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:11,480
hope he gives a group confidence as well. And you know,

1353
01:02:11,719 --> 01:02:13,880
based on what I've seen in practice the last two days.

1354
01:02:14,079 --> 01:02:16,239
I think you know our group is ready.

1355
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:19,599
Speaker 1: Let's go. K Y says the group.

1356
01:02:19,639 --> 01:02:24,159
Speaker 2: Freddie has met individually with the team leadership, and uh, look,

1357
01:02:24,199 --> 01:02:26,599
I keep on hearing broncoisms here. He said band of

1358
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:31,320
brothers and also mentioned flag Bears earlier in the the

1359
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:35,559
sound loved Me some Bronco Mendenhall isms coming out from

1360
01:02:35,639 --> 01:02:36,000
k Y.

1361
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:38,639
Speaker 1: Last couple of sound bites from Ky.

1362
01:02:38,719 --> 01:02:42,639
Speaker 2: How do you think the injury affects Richie Saunders draft stock?

1363
01:02:44,519 --> 01:02:47,679
Speaker 7: Yeah, no, it's it's a it's something that it's going

1364
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:49,400
to take a lot of due diligence, you know from

1365
01:02:49,519 --> 01:02:51,920
from his agent, you know from me as well talking

1366
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:52,639
to different people.

1367
01:02:52,679 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 6: I do know that there's a boatload of people that

1368
01:02:54,599 --> 01:02:55,280
love him, you know.

1369
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:57,679
Speaker 7: The good thing for Richie and I you know, what

1370
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:00,679
he did at Kansas I think probably helped his draft

1371
01:03:00,719 --> 01:03:03,079
stock more than probably anything else that could have happened

1372
01:03:03,119 --> 01:03:06,960
for this season. And look, I mean today, in today's

1373
01:03:07,039 --> 01:03:09,159
day and age, you know, what happened to his knee

1374
01:03:09,239 --> 01:03:11,159
is not the end of the world by any stretch.

1375
01:03:11,199 --> 01:03:13,639
People come back from it all the time. You know,

1376
01:03:13,639 --> 01:03:16,320
it'll be interesting, It'll be interesting to see. I'm hopeful

1377
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:19,039
that maybe it gives him a little bit more control

1378
01:03:19,199 --> 01:03:21,400
in terms of what team he actually goes to, which,

1379
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,960
in my estimation, is one of the most important things

1380
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:27,480
any player going into the NBA could do is to

1381
01:03:27,559 --> 01:03:30,119
go to the right team, the right fit, the right organization.

1382
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:33,000
But we'll work hand in hand with his agency. I'll

1383
01:03:33,039 --> 01:03:34,679
do anything I can to help him. I love that

1384
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:38,119
guy and absolutely just wrecked that that happened to him.

1385
01:03:38,159 --> 01:03:41,119
But I think everyone that's followed Richie Saunder's career knows

1386
01:03:41,159 --> 01:03:44,039
that if there's one guy in America that could could

1387
01:03:44,079 --> 01:03:46,440
work through some adversity and come back stronger, it's it's

1388
01:03:46,559 --> 01:03:47,199
Richie Saunders.

1389
01:03:47,239 --> 01:03:49,239
Speaker 6: And I think you know, everybody would agree with that.

1390
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 2: Look, there ain't no hip of violations in in the NBA.

1391
01:03:53,719 --> 01:03:57,639
Like they're gonna evaluate your MRIU. They're gonna strength test you. Uh,

1392
01:03:57,719 --> 01:04:02,320
They're gonna weigh him, measure him and make sure that

1393
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:06,320
there's no U issues with that knee. If they if

1394
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:08,119
they do spend some money on them, if they do

1395
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:10,679
want to draft him, But I do think it impacts

1396
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:12,519
it no doubt. I mean, they can get him as

1397
01:04:12,559 --> 01:04:16,519
a you know, they don't have to draft them. Quite honestly,

1398
01:04:17,239 --> 01:04:17,880
they're not gonna have.

1399
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:18,679
Speaker 1: To real quick.

1400
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 2: My buddy just text me, Kevin Young is crazy if

1401
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:24,760
he's comparing the importance of winning in the Big Twelve

1402
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:27,760
to the G League when I'm sure.

1403
01:04:27,599 --> 01:04:30,239
Speaker 1: I've heard you say that the Big twelve is just

1404
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:33,679
college basketball or it's just the G League with Big

1405
01:04:33,719 --> 01:04:34,400
Twelve logos.

1406
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 2: Like what's interesting is like, I I'm the players that

1407
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:43,400
are coming to college basketball are not the good G

1408
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League players.

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01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 1: They're not, Like, that's what I said.

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01:04:48,679 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 4: The NBA he averages forty points a night and twenty

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boards a game, then I'll have a problem.

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01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 1: None of these guys are that good, Like all the

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01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:58,920
all the best G leaders are like, nah, they're probably

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01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:02,440
all out of l they're Alex Caruso. Yeah, yeah, they

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01:05:02,599 --> 01:05:03,440
getting into the league.

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01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:07,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I guess what my buddy's saying is like

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01:05:08,199 --> 01:05:11,320
Ky is stating like, well, I was told like five

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01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:14,199
minutes before tip off that I had to X, Y

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01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:16,840
and Z. That's what he's getting as, like the pressure

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01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:21,199
of coaching in the G League is nothing compared to

1421
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:24,119
the pressure he's experiencing now in the Big Twelve at

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01:05:24,159 --> 01:05:25,679
the highest levels of college basketball.

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01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I bet you big, I bet you G

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01:05:27,519 --> 01:05:29,239
league coaches. I bet you know what they'd say, Oh,

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01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:32,079
that's nice, you're coaching in college. This is professional basketball,

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01:05:32,119 --> 01:05:33,800
which I don't know what the argument is, but I

1427
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:36,039
bet you they would say the exact same thing across

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01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:36,599
this is that.

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01:05:36,719 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 1: This is what I'd retort to my buddies, like like,

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01:05:38,519 --> 01:05:40,559
he was the highest paid coach in the NBA and

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01:05:40,559 --> 01:05:42,800
he's coach playoff game, So I mean like he's.

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01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:48,519
Speaker 2: We know that Ky is battle tested. Like I said before,

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01:05:49,079 --> 01:05:52,679
Ky due to the nature of his personnel right now,

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01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:56,000
everyone getting injured, which really we got to evaluate that,

1435
01:05:56,159 --> 01:05:57,960
like why the h are they getting all injured when

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01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:00,320
we have like a strength conditioning staff that's coming from BNBA,

1437
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:02,000
nutritional staffs to come from the NBA. What are we

1438
01:06:02,039 --> 01:06:06,679
doing as far as pre pregame potentiation stuff. Are we

1439
01:06:06,719 --> 01:06:08,440
getting too much neuromuscler fatigue?

1440
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:11,519
Speaker 4: Do we have issue anyway? Like we can get into

1441
01:06:11,559 --> 01:06:16,079
that later situation. There's a substation there nearby.

1442
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:16,679
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1443
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's something that we need to evaluate their due

1444
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:20,719
or due diligence on.

1445
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:23,880
Speaker 1: But Kate, why is gonna make his money this year?

1446
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:25,039
We're gonna see how good of a coach he.

1447
01:06:25,159 --> 01:06:28,119
Speaker 5: Is, and can I jump into like, look, there's some

1448
01:06:28,199 --> 01:06:31,000
similarities when he's bringing up the comparison. Okay, you're losing

1449
01:06:31,039 --> 01:06:33,400
your player five minutes before the game, your best player.

1450
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:35,480
I mean, we've heard it from how many coaches of

1451
01:06:35,559 --> 01:06:37,559
Richie Sconin's being on the scout. There's no disrespect to

1452
01:06:37,559 --> 01:06:41,440
aj Aj. I'm being I'm being so honest too, And

1453
01:06:41,559 --> 01:06:43,199
you know I heard this from a Big twelve source.

1454
01:06:43,679 --> 01:06:46,760
They're kind of like, leave, leave, leave de Bonsa and

1455
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:49,519
stop Saunders. That's kind of what the message is, right, Like,

1456
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:51,559
we've we've heard it from how many post games that

1457
01:06:51,639 --> 01:06:53,239
we played it done? And I'll go back and I'll

1458
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:55,599
pull it from Kelvin Samson, I'll pull it from Tad Boy.

1459
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:59,039
These coaches fear fifteen more than they fear three because

1460
01:06:59,039 --> 01:07:00,719
they're just like, well, he's gonna to do what he does,

1461
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,920
so look there is comparison of with that.

1462
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 1: But I just mind people.

1463
01:07:05,519 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 5: I want people to know, don't your buddy included everybody listening,

1464
01:07:09,239 --> 01:07:12,599
don't act surprised and shocked if this coach comes out

1465
01:07:12,639 --> 01:07:15,119
and wins tonight after having two and a half to

1466
01:07:15,199 --> 01:07:18,400
three days with Richie being gone and then he gets

1467
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:21,239
these guys to lock in, Like I'm like, I just

1468
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:23,000
I don't want because that's what peoplere gonna do. They're

1469
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:25,639
gonna downplay a win today, or they're gonna go typical

1470
01:07:25,679 --> 01:07:26,119
be fan.

1471
01:07:26,199 --> 01:07:27,119
Speaker 6: Look, I knew what you've.

1472
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 1: Been talking crap the whole season about him. Which one

1473
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:30,440
is it? B? WHYU fans?

1474
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 5: So that's all I'm saying, Like, don't hop on the

1475
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,000
ship because the ship sailed in the beginning, But y'all

1476
01:07:35,119 --> 01:07:36,679
was trying to jump off with your life jackets and

1477
01:07:36,679 --> 01:07:38,559
now you want back on. That's all I don't want

1478
01:07:38,599 --> 01:07:41,280
from people because I don't know. I just trust Kevin Young.

1479
01:07:41,559 --> 01:07:44,199
And this feels like a game where Arizona blood in

1480
01:07:44,239 --> 01:07:46,320
the water, back against the wall and Kevin Young's like,

1481
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:48,679
what do we have to lose? Y'all have more and

1482
01:07:48,719 --> 01:07:50,360
we're gonna stomp on your throat And just kind of

1483
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:52,639
feels like he's given that energy as a guy who's

1484
01:07:52,719 --> 01:07:53,480
uber competitive.

1485
01:07:54,280 --> 01:08:00,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, clarification, there's not pressure to win is the G League?

1486
01:08:00,679 --> 01:08:00,800
Speaker 6: Right?

1487
01:08:01,159 --> 01:08:02,119
Speaker 1: It's not as high pressure.

1488
01:08:02,119 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 2: But like I said, I'll keep on going back to

1489
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:06,480
I mean, has he coached in playoff games high high,

1490
01:08:06,559 --> 01:08:07,719
high level playoff games?

1491
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 1: No doubt about it.

1492
01:08:08,519 --> 01:08:10,159
Speaker 2: I mean, they lost in the NBA finals I think

1493
01:08:10,159 --> 01:08:13,599
in twenty twenty, twenty twenty one, and he was on

1494
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:16,760
that that that coaching staff lost in the West Western

1495
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:19,960
Conference semifinals the following year, lost to the Western Conference

1496
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:23,479
semifinals the following year, and then lost in the Western

1497
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:27,479
Conference first round in twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four.

1498
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:30,000
So high quality games, high pressure games, no doubt about it.

1499
01:08:30,079 --> 01:08:34,199
Let's see what kay Y can do. Final two questions

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01:08:34,279 --> 01:08:37,640
to k why before we call it a segment? Has

1501
01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:40,640
Arizona added any wrinkles or changed anything since you last met?

1502
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:44,000
Speaker 6: A few small wrinkles?

1503
01:08:44,039 --> 01:08:46,199
Speaker 7: But you know, one thing I respect about Tommy is

1504
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:48,640
you know he's gonna do what he does and you

1505
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:50,840
know you're gonna have to stop it. And so I

1506
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:52,760
think there's a lot a lot to be said about that,

1507
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,079
you know, I think in terms of what could impact

1508
01:08:56,159 --> 01:08:58,039
what they do or don't do differently, I mean, they're

1509
01:08:58,079 --> 01:08:59,880
dealing with an injury with Cole Pete. You know, his

1510
01:09:00,039 --> 01:09:03,840
status seems up in the air for different different things there.

1511
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:09,119
Speaker 6: So we'll see. I think for for the large majority, they're.

1512
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 7: Gonna do what they do, and you know, this is

1513
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:14,119
a game where, Yeah, we gotta definitely worry about the

1514
01:09:14,199 --> 01:09:16,159
game plan, because that's what you gotta do in every game.

1515
01:09:16,199 --> 01:09:17,760
But this is a game where we gotta we gotta

1516
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:19,640
make it about b YU, you know, we gotta make

1517
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:21,520
it about us and not worry so much about what

1518
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:22,079
they're gonna do.

1519
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:26,600
Speaker 1: Boom baby, love that breakdown.

1520
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:30,199
Speaker 2: On last thing, AJ said in his in his post

1521
01:09:30,239 --> 01:09:32,479
game that he's extremely confident the guy's coming off the bench.

1522
01:09:33,039 --> 01:09:36,640
Where do role players draw their confidence from.

1523
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:40,439
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that's a huge comment for him to make,

1524
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:44,720
and it, you know, belief is a beautiful thing, you know,

1525
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:47,239
Like if I can quote dil Jet Taylor, a great

1526
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:49,560
coach here at b YU that you know, that's pretty

1527
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:51,199
much your big mantra is just how much she.

1528
01:09:51,279 --> 01:09:54,079
Speaker 6: Believes in her athletes. And so I've learned a lot

1529
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:55,640
from her on that.

1530
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:59,520
Speaker 7: But but but yeah, guy like AJ, who's as talented

1531
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:02,039
he as he is, to have, you know, belief in

1532
01:10:02,119 --> 01:10:04,000
our guys. You know, I think it speaks to what

1533
01:10:04,079 --> 01:10:07,399
he sees every day in practice, as you mentioned. But listen,

1534
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:10,439
I wish Richie was still healthy, There's no getting around that. However,

1535
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:13,840
you know, I'm a I'm a silver linings guy, you know.

1536
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:15,600
I think it takes the pressure off some of the

1537
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:17,760
guys coming off the bench knowing that they're gonna get

1538
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:19,359
a little bit extended opportunities.

1539
01:10:20,279 --> 01:10:21,880
Speaker 6: People know, I think we have to do it a

1540
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:22,520
little bit more.

1541
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:25,680
Speaker 7: Obviously I was going really heavy on on on uh

1542
01:10:26,119 --> 01:10:28,119
not not using the bench a ton, and now we

1543
01:10:28,199 --> 01:10:28,960
don't have a choice.

1544
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:30,199
Speaker 6: And so there's a lot.

1545
01:10:30,239 --> 01:10:32,760
Speaker 7: I've seen this in the NBA world, man, where you know,

1546
01:10:33,199 --> 01:10:35,359
people go out and and and and and other guys

1547
01:10:35,399 --> 01:10:38,239
step up. I've seen it time and time again. And

1548
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:42,319
so you know, AJ adding fuel to that fire in

1549
01:10:42,359 --> 01:10:44,800
a good way. I think just as uh, the more,

1550
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:49,960
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