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Speaker 2: The magician, Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to the only show
Speaker 2: that metals. As as said, I hope you've got your refreshments,
Speaker 2: because men, am I so happy? And you know what
Speaker 2: makes me more excited is the fact that the gentlemen
Speaker 2: that we have today actually has a name similar to mine.
Speaker 2: So hopefully it's gonna be more fun than I actually anticipated.
Speaker 2: So without any furtherer ado, ladies and gentlemen, please help
Speaker 2: me in welcoming Masta Antonio, Louro, ray Tony.
Speaker 3: Right, good afternoon to all.
Speaker 4: Thank you very much for the invitation, and I'm sure
Speaker 4: it's gonna be very good and long and eded conversation
Speaker 4: with you.
Speaker 3: Turning to.
Speaker 2: Under present, TONI I just want to say, before anything else,
Speaker 2: thank you, thank you, thank you so much because I
Speaker 2: understand time. It's not your best friend. You're always on
Speaker 2: the move, You're busy, and I just want to say
Speaker 2: thank you for honoring this invite. Firstly and obviously to
Speaker 2: your team and everyone around you who's allowed us an
Speaker 2: opportunity to engage with you today. I just want to
Speaker 2: say a big shout out to them. I try to
Speaker 2: introduce you, but I don't think I did so much
Speaker 2: justice to your name, Antonio, would you please reintroduce yourself
Speaker 2: and just give the audience an idea of who you are,
Speaker 2: what you do and yeah, just those kind of things.
Speaker 4: Okay, good afternoon everybody. So my name Antonio Lord is
Speaker 4: Antonio Lord, and I'm sixty five years old, a project
Speaker 4: manager by trade sort of that.
Speaker 3: I have been doing.
Speaker 4: Projects all over the world and obviously along with that
Speaker 4: sort of playing golf for the last forty years. Three
Speaker 4: time Portuguese champion in two club championship, two times in
Speaker 4: mid amateur, one time overall. And I was actually born
Speaker 4: in Angolan many many years ago, and my first nationality
Speaker 4: is actually Angoland. So it was a dream to come
Speaker 4: back to Angolan and actually contribute for the growth of
Speaker 4: the country. And I've been in Angola for the last
Speaker 4: sixteen years and on the last five I was invited
Speaker 4: to become the CEO of a golf resort in Angola,
Speaker 4: just seven ti kilometers away from Loundon. So on these
Speaker 4: last five years I've been involved with with the resort,
Speaker 4: being even more involved with golf to the crazy point
Speaker 4: of becoming a professional with sixty two years old. So
Speaker 4: I've been playing the Senior Sunshine Tour in South Africa
Speaker 4: for the last three years. So it was a crazy
Speaker 4: decision but one which was important, one which was important
Speaker 4: for me as a person and as a sportsman, because
Speaker 4: it's actually that something which will keep me alive, will
Speaker 4: keep me training every day, will keep me sort of
Speaker 4: trying to improve every day, which is actually golf, all
Speaker 4: about golf, and obviously it was a great opportunity to
Speaker 4: join with one of the most powerful countries golf countries
Speaker 4: in the world, which is South Africa, and obviously giving
Speaker 4: us the opportunity of networking with important players, important sort
Speaker 4: of decision makers in golf, which is absolutely vital for us.
Speaker 4: Yet a goola, we are very a country which only
Speaker 4: has one golf course, which is actually the one I run,
Speaker 4: and it's a nation which has no experience whatsoever in golf,
Speaker 4: so it's a.
Speaker 3: Big, big challenge.
Speaker 4: And we'll learn in Africa that if you want to
Speaker 4: go fast, you go along, if you want to go
Speaker 4: far away, you go together. So the decision was get
Speaker 4: together with South Africa with.
Speaker 3: All the all the knowledge and.
Speaker 4: The networking in South Africa and sort of try to
Speaker 4: make something happen in both ways in golf and South Africa.
Speaker 4: So I hope it was not a very long introduction.
Speaker 4: That's pretty much what I am. But as far as
Speaker 4: this is concerned, it's forty years of golf with many,
Speaker 4: many roles both in Portugal and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hundred percent. Then I have to say thank you,
Speaker 2: thank you for that in depth introduction. You've taken away
Speaker 2: all the questions that I had. But I'll find something
Speaker 2: to ask. But before we even get into the crux
Speaker 2: of matters, Antonio, I just want to find out something
Speaker 2: you mentioned that you only got into the pro second
Speaker 2: three years ago, which is through the Sunshine Talk. Now,
Speaker 2: my question would be, has it always been a dream
Speaker 2: of yours to actually play professional or is it something
Speaker 2: that you were, like, you know what, I've been playing
Speaker 2: this sport for so long.
Speaker 3: Let me just.
Speaker 2: Continue enjoying it on a professional level.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, that's one of the things which we
Speaker 4: all go for. Shared is always the challenge. We need
Speaker 4: something to challenge us every day. And obviously, playing as
Speaker 4: an amateur with sixty five years old, it would sort
Speaker 4: of give me a few amateur tournaments and it was
Speaker 4: really not sort of the sort of competition and the
Speaker 4: challenge I was looking for. Obviously, playing with players like
Speaker 4: a few important names like David Frost, Neville Clark, Andrew
Speaker 4: McClard and Dog mcgig and Keith Horn so obviously puts
Speaker 4: the challenge into a completely different level.
Speaker 3: Obviously, by sharing the.
Speaker 4: Golf course, is sharing the putting greens with this very
Speaker 4: high level sort of players, it will give you a
Speaker 4: different view of the golf and a different challenge altogether.
Speaker 4: So I don't know if I made myself clear, but
Speaker 4: obviously it was a decision because it's playing professionally even
Speaker 4: at sixty two years old, was more the type of
Speaker 4: challenge I was looking for than simply playing amateur tournaments
Speaker 4: here and there, which are fine, but it was not
Speaker 4: enough for me as a challenge.
Speaker 2: I fully understand that, and I think it actually makes sense,
Speaker 2: because as a person, I believe that we thrive on challenges.
Speaker 2: If we become too complacent, then we don't really get
Speaker 2: fulfilled to say we have done what we actually wanted
Speaker 2: to achieve. So thank you for the clarity. Now, if anything,
Speaker 2: if anything I just want to find out from you, Antonio,
Speaker 2: is that I mean you mentioned that you have played
Speaker 2: in the amateur second for quite some time, and you've
Speaker 2: got a few accolades from there. Now, when we look
Speaker 2: at this professional aspect of golf or the professional space,
Speaker 2: especially when it comes to tory, because I believe that
Speaker 2: once in a while tournaments will be held in different places,
Speaker 2: how different is that compared to the amateur circuit. Do
Speaker 2: you also taught the continent during those amateur matches or
Speaker 2: are you only experiencing it now when you get into
Speaker 2: the professional circuit.
Speaker 4: Well, sort of touring as such, only nours that I'm
Speaker 4: playing in the in the professional circuit, and I played
Speaker 4: sort of amateur in Portugal for a long long time
Speaker 4: and it was sort of a pretty much sort of
Speaker 4: national competitions. I did play a few a few tournaments
Speaker 4: as an amateur in the in the professional in the
Speaker 4: professional circuits at my club I was club captain of Gutavus,
Speaker 4: which was host of the European Tour events. During five
Speaker 4: years in a row, we hosted as well sort of
Speaker 4: a senior at the Legends Tour now the Legends Tour,
Speaker 4: but then the Senior Tour, the Ladies Ladies Tour, the
Speaker 4: Challenge Tour. So we had quite a few events, professional
Speaker 4: events at ower at my club then in Portugal, and
Speaker 4: obviously as a Cup captain, I was invited to play
Speaker 4: quite a few times on the professional tournaments as an amateur.
Speaker 4: But during these sort of amateur sort of years, I
Speaker 4: was lucky enough to play like I played Shut Schwartzel
Speaker 4: in one year. The next year he was played the
Speaker 4: problem of the Portuguese Open with Shad Schwartzel and the
Speaker 4: next year he won the Masters. So the next year
Speaker 4: I played with Martin Kahan and the next year he
Speaker 4: won the Masters.
Speaker 3: So I was lucky enough.
Speaker 4: To play to play with a few big names of
Speaker 4: the professionals, and I was able as well to understand
Speaker 4: a bit what was the professional and the touring. But
Speaker 4: only now at sixty sixty two years old, I'm actually
Speaker 4: sort of being part of that side of the golf game.
Speaker 4: Which is a completely different side and as completely different pressures,
Speaker 4: completely different challenges from the amateurs. You know, amateur is
Speaker 4: pretty much like you defend your club. You want to
Speaker 4: become a good player, but you don't have the pressure
Speaker 4: of going from one tournament to the other and needed
Speaker 4: to make money to pay your trip. And yeah, even
Speaker 4: today with me, you go into the driving range and
Speaker 4: just just in front of you you Ky Torn eating balls.
Speaker 4: Behind you you have James Kingston and suddenly you realize
Speaker 4: what the hell am I doing here. It's a big challenge,
Speaker 4: and it's even worse when it happens with you and
Speaker 4: you have to make money to pay you on next trip.
Speaker 4: So the professional circuit is extremely, extremely demanding these days,
Speaker 4: no doubt, nothing compared with the amateurs. Although during these
Speaker 4: last years the amateurs, with the world ranking and the
Speaker 4: big sort of amateur tournaments is becoming actually the entrance
Speaker 4: door for the professional circuit. So these boys are really
Speaker 4: sort of getting the same sort of pressure, the same
Speaker 4: sort of training, the same sort of challenge that most
Speaker 4: of the professionals are living on a day to day.
Speaker 2: And I mean, like you said, the landscape is totally
Speaker 2: different between amateur golf and professional golf. I just want
Speaker 2: to find out if you were to compare the intensity
Speaker 2: of training or preparation between amateur circuit and the professional circuit,
Speaker 2: what would you say has changed over the years that
Speaker 2: you've actually played in the professional circuit and what kind
Speaker 2: of preparation do you actually do different to what you
Speaker 2: used to do back then.
Speaker 4: Well, Tony, really, the the industry and the the all
Speaker 4: the the the ages that you have today on your
Speaker 4: preparations from sort of everything, all the computers, all the
Speaker 4: track mans, all the technology, all the software that you
Speaker 4: put in your body and you check all the parts
Speaker 4: of your body in the swing and everything else. The
Speaker 4: evolution of that side of the game is been absolutely unbelievable.
Speaker 4: And obviously with that, all the training is changed quite
Speaker 4: a lot. So these days you see people sort of
Speaker 4: training flexibility, training sort of muscles, and all the preparation
Speaker 4: that goes into making a professional, top quality professional player
Speaker 4: is a lot more complete than used to be in
Speaker 4: my time. And basically, at my time we were barely
Speaker 4: touching the psychological part of the game and the sort
Speaker 4: of all of that, and today, Tony, that's part of
Speaker 4: the game. I don't believe there is a top professional player.
Speaker 4: And I'm sure that most of the top quality amateurs
Speaker 4: that they don't have a team of physical training, psychological training,
Speaker 4: sort of coach or swing coach, putting coach, whatever. It's
Speaker 4: a big team, that's and the training is a lot
Speaker 4: more detailed, a lot more sort of sophisticated, and used
Speaker 4: to be in my time. When I started playing golf,
Speaker 4: our idols were people like seven yen balles Teros, and
Speaker 4: it was it was all about talent. It was all
Speaker 4: about sort of the talent of the game. And you know,
Speaker 4: you know, we both know these days that talent is
Speaker 4: not enough. You need you need to put a lot
Speaker 4: more so the long and the short is obviously the preparation,
Speaker 4: the training, everything else today is absolutely different, a lot
Speaker 4: more intents, a lot more demanding. And when I was
Speaker 4: sort of a top amateur, you you used to train
Speaker 4: sort of two or three times a week, one or
Speaker 4: two hours. Well, if you want to be a top
Speaker 4: professional these days, that is the amount of hours you
Speaker 4: need to put in one day.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. You know, earlier I forgot to say, I've
Speaker 2: got to mention that because you did mention that you
Speaker 2: played with Charles Wattle and then he won the Masters,
Speaker 2: and then you played with Kingston if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 2: and he also won the Masters.
Speaker 4: Martin Kanner, Martin Kanner, I'm not too sure what was
Speaker 4: the sequence, but it was two years in a row
Speaker 4: and they both want the Masters.
Speaker 3: Yes, Martin Kanner, it.
Speaker 2: Was Martin Kimer. Yeah, because I forgot to say, you
Speaker 2: know what, I think they were very lucky to play
Speaker 2: with you, because it seems that whoever played, if you
Speaker 2: want the Masters. So if anyone out there who wants
Speaker 2: to win the Masters, they need to schedule a game
Speaker 2: with you.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm always available on the Senior Sunshine Tour. We
Speaker 4: always play with amateurs. It's always a pleasure to share
Speaker 4: sort of the two days of golf with people which
Speaker 4: are willing to come and experience a bit of these
Speaker 4: forty years, a lot of a lot of stories, a
Speaker 4: lot of experiences with amazing people, amazing people that it's
Speaker 4: there's still references of the game of golf disdays.
Speaker 2: And I mean, as you mentioned, over forty years playing
Speaker 2: the spot and majority of those years you said you
Speaker 2: you were in the amateur second. Now I just want
Speaker 2: to find out obviously playing in different countries that the
Speaker 2: landscape is totally different. And you did make mention that
Speaker 2: currently in Angola there's only one golf course, which is
Speaker 2: Mangay if I'm not mistaken and looking at the accessibility thereof,
Speaker 2: and you were to compare it to South African accessibility
Speaker 2: to golf courses, how how much more work do you
Speaker 2: think still needs to take place within Angola for his
Speaker 2: dance to make sure that get the landscape competes with
Speaker 2: some of the world's top countries when it comes to golf.
Speaker 4: Well not maybe sort of defender basically our golf course.
Speaker 4: As you know, we we we've been helding sort of
Speaker 4: we have the senior Sunshine to coming to us. Uh
Speaker 4: this this year will be the fourth time. So last
Speaker 4: year the winner at our golf tournament, the Senior Manguy's
Speaker 4: Senior Classic, was David Frost. And so David Frost when
Speaker 4: he ended up ended the tournament, he was asked sort
Speaker 4: of David, what's your opinion about the golf course? And
Speaker 4: he told the new the guy from the radio and
Speaker 4: the newspaper, he told them that if he was blindfolded
Speaker 4: and brought on elicopter down to our gold of course,
Speaker 4: he would believe that he was thought that he was
Speaker 4: in Florida. So basically the our golf course has been
Speaker 4: sort of rated very very highly by all the players
Speaker 4: that have come to play with us. And I mentioned
Speaker 4: David Frost, but I can mention James Kingston, he was
Speaker 4: with us already.
Speaker 3: Keithorne was the.
Speaker 4: First guy which won the first edition of the Mangui's
Speaker 4: Senior Classic. We've got Doug mcgigan he won the second
Speaker 4: one this year.
Speaker 3: We had we had sort of Magnus Livy, which.
Speaker 4: Is a Swedish guy with more than thirty years experiencing
Speaker 4: the European Tour. We had Andrew Bozart, which is he
Speaker 4: was born in South Africa but the Swiss and a
Speaker 4: member of the Legends Legends Tour Committee. And we only
Speaker 4: received sort of very very good sort of opinions about
Speaker 4: the golf course. Is a full championship golf course, extremely
Speaker 4: demanding and it's a big challenge and it's basically.
Speaker 3: Untouched.
Speaker 4: Lens is nothing like we have in many many golf
Speaker 4: courses in South Africa which are part of a development project.
Speaker 4: So we've got a nice golf course, but it's it's
Speaker 4: all over all over the golf course and obviously with
Speaker 4: us it's nature, nature and nature, so it's a completely
Speaker 4: different field. And once again it's if I can, if
Speaker 4: I can try to make a similarity to South Africa,
Speaker 4: the only place where you can actually find something like
Speaker 4: the golf course we have in Angola.
Speaker 3: It's a wild coast, so you can you.
Speaker 4: Can see the basically what we have here, the same
Speaker 4: type of golf course, the same type of wind, the
Speaker 4: same type of proximity, proximity to the sea. So it's
Speaker 4: pretty much a wild coast golf course in Angola.
Speaker 2: That's lovely. That's lovely, and I believe our audience can't
Speaker 2: even wait to I'm sure that some are already googly
Speaker 2: and uh some can't even wait to come and play
Speaker 2: at Manguy. I just want to find out from you,
Speaker 2: like in secret playing at my guy uh as Antonio,
Speaker 2: mm hmm, right, how how many times have you broken
Speaker 2: that cost? How many times have you actually beat that course?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 4: I broke that course about two times playing from the
Speaker 4: from the back teas and not even from the back, back,
Speaker 4: back back teas, because this is a seven thousand plus
Speaker 4: golf course at sea level with fairways that the ball
Speaker 4: doesn't run like some of the golf courses in.
Speaker 3: South Africa. So it's a very long, long golf course.
Speaker 4: For me with sixty five years old, I hit the
Speaker 4: ball between two twenty and two forty meters and I
Speaker 4: leave myself many times seven woods and five woods as
Speaker 4: a second shot. So's it's not an easy golf course.
Speaker 4: Obviously for somebody like Keithorn, which still plays on the
Speaker 4: Senior Sunshine Tour, is one of the top players of legend.
Speaker 4: Thure eats the ball to seventy to eighteen, it's easier
Speaker 4: for me. It's not an easy golf course. It's a
Speaker 4: golf course which I'm very very happy when I go
Speaker 4: round in Level Park.
Speaker 3: And just.
Speaker 2: With of wisdom to young golfers like myself, if you
Speaker 2: were to share something and reflecting on your early ages
Speaker 2: as a golfer, to say, okay, how, how or what
Speaker 2: would be the best way to approach the sport in general?
Speaker 2: Is it more about how hard you heat or how
Speaker 2: far you hit, or is it more about how strong
Speaker 2: you are mentally? Like you said that there's a huge
Speaker 2: difference now between amateur and professional in the sense that
Speaker 2: the mental acumen has been emphasized in the professional aspect.
Speaker 2: So if you were to look at your young self
Speaker 2: and maybe give a few tips to say, okay, right
Speaker 2: now I'm in the professional league. In order for you
Speaker 2: to actually continue enjoying golf and continue being the best
Speaker 2: is what you do? What would you say are the
Speaker 2: key that young golfers should actually look.
Speaker 4: Into, well, Tony, Really, the basically, if you reduced the
Speaker 4: golf the golf game, it's all about sort of eating fairways,
Speaker 4: eating greens, and making putts and actually, believe it or not,
Speaker 4: I believe the last one is by far the most important.
Speaker 4: If you put well, and if you go and check
Speaker 4: all the big big names in the golf the game
Speaker 4: of golf, they were all in that time extremely extremely
Speaker 4: good butters and I can tell you that I played,
Speaker 4: as I said, I played with many professionals. I played
Speaker 4: a few tournaments with top quality professionals and second level
Speaker 4: professionals and third level professionals, Tony, they all hit the
Speaker 4: ball very far, They all hit the ball very well.
Speaker 4: The difference is actually the short game and putting. If
Speaker 4: you do that well, you'll become a great, a great
Speaker 4: player golf player.
Speaker 3: So really, the.
Speaker 4: For me even today, it's the big, big challenges, go
Speaker 4: round and put well, make twenty nine, twenty eight, thirty puts,
Speaker 4: then you have an extremely good round of golf. Because
Speaker 4: if you do that, obviously the pressure of your long game,
Speaker 4: the pressure of your approach shots, it's less than when
Speaker 4: you know that if I'm not going to make the
Speaker 4: fairway and then if I have myself a long put,
Speaker 4: I'm going to three pot or I'm going to miss
Speaker 4: the pot, So the pressure for me starts building up
Speaker 4: from the green backwards.
Speaker 3: So if you're putting well, it's easier.
Speaker 4: You know, well, I missed the green, but I can
Speaker 4: chipen put or I went to the banker and I
Speaker 4: can do a bunker shot and a put. So I
Speaker 4: believe sixty percent of the game of golf today is
Speaker 4: but you need to put well to become a very
Speaker 4: very good golf player.
Speaker 3: It's my opinion.
Speaker 2: One. No, no, no, that's I mean, as I said four
Speaker 2: years plus in golf, I'd rather listen to all the
Speaker 2: advice that I can get and note it down than
Speaker 2: actually just going and approaching with my little experience that
Speaker 2: I have in the spot.
Speaker 4: You know. But yeah, it's really, it has been and
Speaker 4: it always will be. A putting is, but think is
Speaker 4: a game within a game. We all say that, and
Speaker 4: it's it's really what makes the difference. I was playing
Speaker 4: sort of a couple of times in the City Sunshine
Speaker 4: Tour and Bobby Lincoln he told me something which I
Speaker 4: agree one hundred percent, and that's the difference. It's putting
Speaker 4: is all about visualizing, visualizing and visualizing. If you see
Speaker 4: the ball going in, you have a great, great, great,
Speaker 4: great chance of the ball going in. So it's it's
Speaker 4: something which people don't train. And I see our amateurs.
Speaker 4: I will see many of our youngsters. They spend a
Speaker 4: lot of time on the driving range, hitting drivers to
Speaker 4: seventy to eighty, and don't even spend ten percent of
Speaker 4: that time on the putting ring. And obviously, I don't
Speaker 4: believe that's the right combination to become a good golf
Speaker 4: one er.
Speaker 2: All right, Antonio, we've reached the halfway mark of our show.
Speaker 2: Can we quickly go for a two minute water break
Speaker 2: and then when we get back show, we will be
Speaker 2: going deeper and deeper into this conversation because I believe
Speaker 2: we've your experience. There's so much that we can all learn,
Speaker 2: even people who are already in the professional. Second who
Speaker 2: are listening, they can still learn because I believe there's
Speaker 2: nothing that can eliminate experience. Regardless how good you are.
Speaker 2: If you don't have the experience or you haven't walked
Speaker 2: the second path, the only thing that can teach you
Speaker 2: would be from the horse's mouth, who has walked that path.
Speaker 2: So if you don't mind, can we peoplely go for
Speaker 2: that two minute break and then we'll get back into
Speaker 2: the conversation.
Speaker 3: Sir, Okay, we'll do so. Thank you, Tom the.
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Speaker 2: All right, ladies and gentlemen, we are still here on
Speaker 2: a Wednesday evening. Balls and is the only relevant podcast
Speaker 2: when we talk about golf internationally, not just here in
Speaker 2: South Africa. And as you already know, we are joined
Speaker 2: by a Sunshine Senior top player who is from Angola
Speaker 2: and this man has a lot of experience behind him
Speaker 2: when it comes to golf. So we will be going
Speaker 2: into a second segment and he'll be sharing a lot
Speaker 2: more about his experiences and maybe share a couple of
Speaker 2: tips to golfers who are interested in becoming professional, or
Speaker 2: even if you just want to play social, there's a
Speaker 2: few tips that can actually help you stand out amongst
Speaker 2: the rest Antonio, Yes, yes, Tony, thank you, Thank you
Speaker 2: so much for staying on the line. So we had
Speaker 2: a beautiful conversation before the break. So now, as I said,
Speaker 2: we are going to drill a bit deeper into what
Speaker 2: we've been discussing. The one thing that I just want
Speaker 2: to find out from you. I mean, you've seen all
Speaker 2: the changes within golf over the years that you've played golf,
Speaker 2: whether it be clubs, whether it be cost layouts, or
Speaker 2: even all the developments and technologies around golf. Now I
Speaker 2: just want to find out from you. Obviously you are
Speaker 2: in the professional second, and as you said, it's intent
Speaker 2: one needs to prepare physically, mentally and emotionally before every
Speaker 2: single game. There is technological advancements in equipment. There's traking systems,
Speaker 2: swing analysis and all those kind of things. Now, I
Speaker 2: want to find out from you, as a professional golfer,
Speaker 2: how often what impact do these things actually have in
Speaker 2: your game overall?
Speaker 3: But they do have quite a lot of quite a
Speaker 3: lover of impact.
Speaker 4: And starting for instance, on on putting. Today you have
Speaker 4: you have equipments like blasts, which is a small equipment
Speaker 4: which you add to the grip of your butter, which
Speaker 4: gives you which gives you absolutely vital information. Putting is
Speaker 4: all about the way you present the face of the
Speaker 4: club to the ball at the moment of impact, and
Speaker 4: half of the degree of closed and open can determine
Speaker 4: that you're going to make the butt or miss the butter.
Speaker 4: So that technology which helps you to understand your your swing,
Speaker 4: put in your butter and how you present the face
Speaker 4: of the butter to the ball. It's it's a massive
Speaker 4: change from what.
Speaker 3: It used to be.
Speaker 4: We used we used to to practice with aluminium rulers
Speaker 4: a meter one meter aluminium rules, trying to to eat
Speaker 4: the putts and the ball could not leave the aluminium rule.
Speaker 4: Obviously that with training you the way that you presented
Speaker 4: the face of the butter to the to the ball.
Speaker 4: But with this new technology it is absolutely vital and
Speaker 4: as you go, as you go to the full swing
Speaker 4: with the tractments and all that technology it gives you,
Speaker 4: it gives you vital information about what you need to
Speaker 4: do with with your golf swing. But probably probably because
Speaker 4: I'm I'm still an old school golfer. Obviously, all that
Speaker 4: all that technology tells me all the swing is but
Speaker 4: teaching swing, teaching golf for me or teaching a golf swing,
Speaker 4: it's all about feelings. Because you can see everything you
Speaker 4: want on this beautiful technologies and everything else. But as somebody,
Speaker 4: when you try to tell somebody what to do to
Speaker 4: correct the swing, it cannot be cannot be a piece
Speaker 4: of software, It cannot be an informatic information.
Speaker 3: It needs to be a feeling. You need to feel
Speaker 3: that your.
Speaker 4: Club is coming more inside, more up, your ends need
Speaker 4: to be a little bit loser.
Speaker 3: So really, I believe that the real, real.
Speaker 4: Important part of our today's teaching pros it is the
Speaker 4: ability of bridging the technology with being able to transmit
Speaker 4: the necessary feelings and sort of information so the golfers
Speaker 4: can change the swing and improve. So I would say
Speaker 4: that the technology is a huge step and it brings
Speaker 4: you a lot of information, but really I still do
Speaker 4: believe that people that want to improve golf they need
Speaker 4: to go to teaching pros and being able to be
Speaker 4: with them once a month or once every two months
Speaker 4: and being able to check the swing and see what's happening,
Speaker 4: and that will improve a lot. Not only technology, because Tony,
Speaker 4: I see these days because YouTube is a huge source
Speaker 4: of swing tips. You see everything you see from Chinese
Speaker 4: guys swinging the club and teaching you or to sing
Speaker 4: inside outside drives and jaws and fades and everything else.
Speaker 4: That's all great, but you need to be with the
Speaker 4: teaching pro. You needs to tell you, well, this is
Speaker 4: basically what you need to do. Because one thing is
Speaker 4: what you see in YouTube and you believe that what
Speaker 4: you need in your swing, and so many times it's not.
Speaker 4: It's not really not. You need somebody which is able
Speaker 4: to look at you and say, well, this is basically
Speaker 4: what you need.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. And and just just to make
Speaker 2: a follow up on that, two weeks ago, we had
Speaker 2: a guest, Jason Rowe, who is one of the founding
Speaker 2: members of the Golfers Club, and I asked him a
Speaker 2: question to say, Okay, how how important is it to
Speaker 2: actually get the right equipment or to go for fittings?
Speaker 2: And can I just ask you this as a professional,
Speaker 2: as someone who's seen the ups and downs within golf,
Speaker 2: to say, okay, how valuable is it for you to
Speaker 2: actually go for fittings if you want new clubs? And
Speaker 2: how does it relate to you? As you said, when
Speaker 2: it comes to things like a swing, it's more about
Speaker 2: a feeling for you. Now when it comes to equipment,
Speaker 2: obviously the weight will differ, the shaft will defer, the
Speaker 2: club face will differ. So how imperative is it to
Speaker 2: make sure that you've got the right clubs for you
Speaker 2: so that you can actually play the right kind of golf.
Speaker 3: Well, for me, it's fundamental.
Speaker 4: It's I go quite often to to South Africa to
Speaker 4: to to have my equipment checked and do the fittings.
Speaker 4: Anytime that I see that something is not correct, it's
Speaker 4: obviously all my my clubs are checked and they are
Speaker 4: made exactly to my my specifications, and everything is checked
Speaker 4: to the detail. And that detail is absolutely vital for
Speaker 4: you to perform at very high level. So so for
Speaker 4: professionals these days, Tony, it's it's a must. If you
Speaker 4: really want to play your best, you need to go
Speaker 4: to a fitting. You need to understand exactly what's the
Speaker 4: best equipment, what's the best specifications.
Speaker 3: And that's vital.
Speaker 4: Now as far as amateurs, let me tell you that obviously,
Speaker 4: as far as amateurs, yes, from a certain point, from
Speaker 4: a certain level of handicap onwards, it's also absolutely vital
Speaker 4: that you see you go to do a fitting for
Speaker 4: many reasons. First, because the equipment we buy off the
Speaker 4: shop sometimes is not exactly exactly the correct.
Speaker 3: Specifications for you.
Speaker 4: Sometimes the equipment itself, because it's mass production, is not
Speaker 4: exactly exactly what it should be. So the combination of
Speaker 4: and I'll tell you very very funny but very common thing.
Speaker 4: You ever set of clubs and then you have one
Speaker 4: club which you don't like, You.
Speaker 3: Never eat that club, well never.
Speaker 4: It's the sixth islan that everything works perfectly well. When
Speaker 4: I get to my six iron, it's not working well, Tony,
Speaker 4: just get it to a fitting because probably the six
Speaker 4: iron the specifications are wrong. There is something which is
Speaker 4: not exactly the same as the other clubs. And that's
Speaker 4: the reason why you cannot eat the six island. It's
Speaker 4: nothing to do with your swing. So the long and
Speaker 4: the short is well tony. Absolutely fitting is fundamental if
Speaker 4: you really want to improve your handicap. There is two
Speaker 4: sorts of fitting which I'll recommend for everybody.
Speaker 3: One is obviously the general.
Speaker 4: Player, the general play like the irons and the drivers
Speaker 4: and the woods.
Speaker 3: That's great.
Speaker 4: But one which many people don't even think about, it's
Speaker 4: putting fitting. So as you know, there is proper equipment
Speaker 4: you can be fitted. You can adjust a lot of
Speaker 4: your butter. You can just the light angle, you can
Speaker 4: just the length of your pattern, and I can tell
Speaker 4: you that that can make a huge difference. That can
Speaker 4: mean four or five shots in a round of golf.
Speaker 4: So fitting by all means percent.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for that input, Antonio. Now you
Speaker 2: spoke about the difference that patting can actually make. It
Speaker 2: can actually determine whether you win or lose. With that
Speaker 2: being said, I really really want to find out from you. Actually,
Speaker 2: I've been dying to ask you this question since we
Speaker 2: started the show, to say which one of the tos
Speaker 2: you've played in what's your best and which was your West?
Speaker 2: And why was one of the best? Well was one
Speaker 2: the west? Could it be the fact that you want
Speaker 2: Could it be the fact that the environment was incredible? What?
Speaker 3: What? What?
Speaker 2: What actually made the difference between the two the West
Speaker 2: and the best that you've actually played?
Speaker 3: Well, the best was by far?
Speaker 4: Warning the Media Amateur Championship in Portugal, just to give
Speaker 4: you an idea, the last day you play, you play foursomes,
Speaker 4: which is a terrible, terrible modality of playing golf.
Speaker 3: So as you know.
Speaker 4: It's it's alternate shots and alternate tease, so if you
Speaker 4: miss your t shirt, your partner will be killing you.
Speaker 4: So it's it's it's a big, big pressure. And obviously
Speaker 4: we started the day, the last day, which was foursomes.
Speaker 4: We started the day we were about eight shots behind
Speaker 4: the the team which was leading and uh and playing fossoms.
Speaker 4: Myself and my partner we played sort of level power
Speaker 4: on a very very tough golf course and the other
Speaker 4: team which played with us, also from our club, it
Speaker 4: also played level part so we recover eight shots and
Speaker 4: we won by by We won actually by five, so
Speaker 4: actually they what was different I don't know the I
Speaker 4: can tell you that the golf holl was looking a
Speaker 4: lot bigger than usual because we were sort of reading
Speaker 4: the lines, reading the greens and making puts from all
Speaker 4: over the place, sort of eating tremendously good shots, recovering
Speaker 4: very well.
Speaker 3: So you know, it's sometimes.
Speaker 4: They the best is this by many of us in golf,
Speaker 4: like being in the zone. So you ended up not
Speaker 4: having any swing tots and you don't have any keys,
Speaker 4: and you just look at the target and you fire
Speaker 4: a target and it goes and you make everything. So
Speaker 4: that's the difference between the best and the worst is
Speaker 4: when you get to the golf course full of doubts
Speaker 4: and full of swing toots, and you forget about the target,
Speaker 4: you forget about enjoying your game, and then every shot
Speaker 4: is is a pain and it goes from worse to worse.
Speaker 4: And obviously what I'm saying, I'm sure that many of
Speaker 4: us today on this podcast, we know, we know this feeling. Unfortunately,
Speaker 4: we know this feeling, and it's all about sort of
Speaker 4: the mental game. The mental game can bring you to
Speaker 4: your best, can take you to your worst, and you
Speaker 4: really need to focus on sort of visualizing the shots
Speaker 4: shooting at the target and the confidence will bring will
Speaker 4: be raising and raising. And I don't know if I
Speaker 4: did explain myself and try to convey the difference between
Speaker 4: the best and the worst my best experience.
Speaker 3: I had a few.
Speaker 4: I won a few big sort of amateur tournaments. I
Speaker 4: play the few finals of amateur tournaments the World Corporate
Speaker 4: all of those. So I've been there and the ones
Speaker 4: I've won that the common trace of all of those.
Speaker 3: It's on those.
Speaker 4: Days you just look at the target and the bogos.
Speaker 4: It's as easy as it can get.
Speaker 2: Thank you for that explanation. And uh, to make a
Speaker 2: follow up on that, I'm gonna put you on the
Speaker 2: spot and more you're gonna put so it goes like this. Obviously,
Speaker 2: you've been playing in the Senior Sunshine Toal, like you said,
Speaker 2: for the past three years, you've played numerous courses here
Speaker 2: in South Africa. Now, of all the courses that you've played,
Speaker 2: if there's anyone that is in this Yes Sunshine Senior toll,
Speaker 2: which one are you looking forward to playing this?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And why is that?
Speaker 4: That's That's a that's a very easy question, Tony. Everybody
Speaker 4: at a Senior Sunshine too knows that. For me, it'swood.
Speaker 4: It's a Port Elizabeth I love, I love my My.
Speaker 4: My golf course in Portugal was a Lynks golf course.
Speaker 4: So I played sort of too many years on a
Speaker 4: links on links golf course, and uh, it's the type
Speaker 4: of golf which goes which goes with my style. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm quite sort of comfortable with playing on a links
Speaker 4: golf course. Oomud in Port Elizabeth is a beautiful golf course,
Speaker 4: an old golf course, a really sort of proper links
Speaker 4: golf course. And it's tough, but it's no, I don't know.
Speaker 4: For me, it's very enjoyable, very very enjoyable. So I'm
Speaker 4: always asking the people on the Syne At sun John
Speaker 4: Tour when it's going to be Port Elizabeth.
Speaker 3: I'm there, m h.
Speaker 2: And then okay, obviously needs to be an opposite today
Speaker 2: to say, Okay, which one has been your nemesis since
Speaker 2: you started playing in the Sunshine Sia talk.
Speaker 4: But before I before I tell you that, uh, that one,
Speaker 4: let me tell you that many many people in the
Speaker 4: ask me, an Tony, what's the best golf course in
Speaker 4: the world that you play that till today? And just
Speaker 4: just for you to see how crazy I am. For me,
Speaker 4: the best golf course in the world is card Nusti,
Speaker 4: which is probably one of the toughest golf courses in
Speaker 4: the world. So and so it's it's it's it's crazy,
Speaker 4: but it's the style of golf I like and cart Nustias,
Speaker 4: something which you also see in a couple of golf
Speaker 4: courses in South Africa. For me, the quality of the
Speaker 4: golf course, it's not only the quality of the course itself,
Speaker 4: it's the quality of the club also. It's the quality
Speaker 4: of the service, how you received, and the the ambience
Speaker 4: and the when you get car Nusti, you like sort
Speaker 4: of breeding golf every second from the time you step
Speaker 4: out of the car. And so in terms of my
Speaker 4: worst experience in the Senior Sunshine Tour by far, and
Speaker 4: it's nothing to do with the quality of the golf
Speaker 4: course or the the the club hos which is all beautiful,
Speaker 4: all great, but sort of two years ago we played
Speaker 4: in Lost City and the greens were about fourteen on
Speaker 4: the steam meter. So basically I found myself in many
Speaker 4: greens trying to see how the hell I could three puts.
Speaker 3: So my first put was.
Speaker 4: Trying not to get outside the green, So it was
Speaker 4: it was a very very, very very tough sort of experience,
Speaker 4: and obviously it was mentally draining and very tough. But
Speaker 4: nothing to do with the quality of the golf course,
Speaker 4: which was great. The views were great, the club also
Speaker 4: it's beautiful. Nothing to do with that. But if you
Speaker 4: did ask me what was my worst experience, that that
Speaker 4: was the one.
Speaker 2: And I mean, like like you said, it's not about
Speaker 2: the quality of the halfway house or anything like that.
Speaker 2: It's basically what you experience on that day, and it
Speaker 2: will differ from passion to person. Same as you're seeing
Speaker 2: the best golf course for you. Some people may say,
Speaker 2: you know what, that was the worst because it's so tough.
Speaker 2: But I get an idea that you enjoy the challenge
Speaker 2: to actually get better and better after every single game.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, that's the name of the game, Tony, no doubt
Speaker 4: about that. It's every time that you step on teen
Speaker 4: number one, you want to be to do better than
Speaker 4: you did last time. Even if you want the tournament,
Speaker 4: you have a tremendous round, but on the next day
Speaker 4: when you go to tin number one, you want to
Speaker 4: do something better. And obviously that's golf that's why golf
Speaker 4: is such a huge learning experience for life, for my
Speaker 4: profession that I know, Golf teach you about your strong points,
Speaker 4: your weak points, and you need to in every day.
Speaker 4: You need to play for your strong points and understand
Speaker 4: what's your strategy. So golf many times teach you a
Speaker 4: lot more than you actually sort of convey on the
Speaker 4: first view. It's a very very sort of it's a
Speaker 4: huge source of learning. It has been for me not
Speaker 4: only that, but being a club captain for almost twenty
Speaker 4: years and managing so many teams, so many talent amateurs.
Speaker 4: You you understand how to see other people and mentally
Speaker 4: when they are strong and when they're not strong. So it's, uh,
Speaker 4: it's it's been a very uh, very profitable journey my
Speaker 4: forty years of golf really.
Speaker 2: And I have to say, like, like I alluded elia
Speaker 2: to the audience to say that, you know what, we
Speaker 2: are going to engage with one of the encyclopedias of golf,
Speaker 2: and we need to, we need to. We need to
Speaker 2: celebrate people who have been in this spot, who have
Speaker 2: played the spot on different levels, people who have played
Speaker 2: the sport from different countries, because as I said, nothing
Speaker 2: can substitute experience, regardless how good you are. But if
Speaker 2: you've not walked the second route, no, nothing can actually
Speaker 2: teach you except for those walk that road before.
Speaker 4: Absolutely nothing can teach you to win unless you have
Speaker 4: lost first. So losing is the only way, the only
Speaker 4: teaching that can I I'm losing my words in English.
Speaker 4: But in order to be able to win, you need
Speaker 4: to be able to lose and understand with your losses
Speaker 4: what needs to be done to become a winner.
Speaker 3: And that's the name of the game.
Speaker 4: And Tony, the point is even the top top guys,
Speaker 4: if you see the amount of tournaments they play and
Speaker 4: the percentage of tournaments they've won, it's unbelievable. The percentage
Speaker 4: of the top top guys will be two or three
Speaker 4: percent of the tournaments they've played.
Speaker 3: It's tough. It's a tough game.
Speaker 4: You don't win every day, and it's and uh, it's
Speaker 4: it's tough, really tough.
Speaker 3: Not that.
Speaker 2: No, one hundred percent. Now we are reaching well, we've
Speaker 2: basically reached the end of today's episode. But before I
Speaker 2: let you go, Antonio, really the Sunshine Senior twenty five,
Speaker 2: I believe it has started. Now I want to find
Speaker 2: out from you, what's the plan this year? Are we
Speaker 2: taking the majors or what's happening?
Speaker 4: But the Senior Sunshine to twenty twenty five has already
Speaker 4: started with the with the Q School, which happened at
Speaker 4: the end of January at the Royal uh At the
Speaker 4: moment they this the Senior Sunshine Tour, it's it's sort
Speaker 4: of having an internal profitable discussion to see how we
Speaker 4: can join efforts to increase the quality, increase the tournaments,
Speaker 4: increase the price money of the Senior Sunshine Tour. It's
Speaker 4: it's been a discussion which has been going on for
Speaker 4: the last month or two and we'll will lend at
Speaker 4: the beginning of March with the General agm and by
Speaker 4: then we'll certainly have a very very an increased sort
Speaker 4: of agenda, an increase a number of tournaments with more quality,
Speaker 4: more price money. And the only thing I can tell
Speaker 4: you for sure is that goal will still be on
Speaker 4: the on the on the agenda and we will keep
Speaker 4: on improving our tournaments.
Speaker 3: This year.
Speaker 4: Once again the price money will be around one point
Speaker 4: two one point five million runs, so forty top players
Speaker 4: from the well thirty four thirty top players from the
Speaker 4: Senior Shant Sunshine Tour and ten top players which will
Speaker 4: be our guests from Europe. And this year we hope
Speaker 4: to have one of two really really really big names
Speaker 4: from Europe coming to play with us in Angola, and
Speaker 4: we already have the confirmation that David Frost will be
Speaker 4: with us in Angola. So the at the moment, we're
Speaker 4: working out to prepare this year for the City Sunshine Tour.
Speaker 4: I know that the board members and the players committee
Speaker 4: are getting together to make sure that we do more
Speaker 4: and better than we did last year.
Speaker 2: Awesome stuff and I definitely wish you all the best
Speaker 2: for this year. And I have to say I'm actually
Speaker 2: going to be looking out to see your name in
Speaker 2: the top three for every single tournament that you're participating
Speaker 2: in Antonio.
Speaker 4: Well, that that will be like reaching reaching the reaching
Speaker 4: the stars, I hope. So really, Tony, really, my my
Speaker 4: target this series obviously too, to enjoy myself and to
Speaker 4: to be able to improve in every tournament, which I
Speaker 4: believe it's it can be done. And uh yeah, if
Speaker 4: we reach the top three will be like reaching the stars.
Speaker 4: But if you do, if you don't mind, if you do,
Speaker 4: allow me just one minute and obviously people people heard
Speaker 4: about Angola and at the moment we have we have
Speaker 4: this offer to South African players which I want to
Speaker 4: come and play with us in Angola, basically because we
Speaker 4: are aware of the the very high prices of the
Speaker 4: airfares two Angola. Basically, what we are offering for people
Speaker 4: coming from South Africa to play with us is that
Speaker 4: we offer the stay and golf during the weeks. So
Speaker 4: if you want to come and play with us for
Speaker 4: three or four days during the week, the accommodation and
Speaker 4: the golf will be free. You only have to play
Speaker 4: your airfare and your food and drinks while we're here.
Speaker 4: And obviously in Manguis we have a few other things
Speaker 4: to offer which are very appealing to South Africa. We
Speaker 4: are about a kilometer away from a top fishing lodge
Speaker 4: where you can have a top fishing experience both in
Speaker 4: the open sea and in the river. And we have
Speaker 4: a very very special place. We have one hundred and
Speaker 4: fifty two different species of birds, with five are endemic.
Speaker 4: They only exist in Angola and in the exist in
Speaker 4: our resort. So if people want to come and join
Speaker 4: us for a couple of days of playing golf, I'm
Speaker 4: sure we can offer a few other very interesting experience
Speaker 4: for the people, which like the contact with the edge
Speaker 4: with an age.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's that's a huge of Antonio, and I hope
Speaker 2: everyone is listen, ladies and gentlemen, whoever you are out there.
Speaker 2: The name of the resort is man guys. Am I
Speaker 2: saying it right, Antonio.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, and I and g I as mang guys. Yes,
Speaker 4: you can see it on the web. You can obviously.
Speaker 4: If people want you, they can reach you, and you
Speaker 4: have my contact. I'll be more than happy to help
Speaker 4: people come and offer the accommodation and go for free
Speaker 4: during the weekdays.
Speaker 2: Awesome stuff. Once again, Antonio, I really have to say
Speaker 2: thank you, thank you, thank you for sharing your experiences,
Speaker 2: your insights, your wisdom with us, and thank you once
Speaker 2: again for joining us and gracing us with your presence.
Speaker 2: As I said, this year, I'm looking forward to seeing
Speaker 2: you in the top three. If it doesn't happen, I
Speaker 2: hope you enjoy every single game, even if you're playing
Speaker 2: at the West coast that you've experienced. I hope that
Speaker 2: this year to be different.
Speaker 4: No, no, for sure, thank you very much Tony for
Speaker 4: the opportunity of sharing some of my golf experience and
Speaker 4: hearing from you, and it's always a pleasure to talk
Speaker 4: about golf, talk about experience.
Speaker 3: And once again, thank you very much for the opportunity.
Speaker 2: Thank you once again, and you must have yourself a
Speaker 2: lovely evening. I believe that this is the year of success.
Speaker 3: Okay, we hope, so thank you very much, Tony.
Speaker 2: All right, Antonio, thanks bye bye, all right.
Speaker 3: Buye.
Speaker 2: So, ladies and gentlemen, there you have it. That is
Speaker 2: our international guest Master, Antonio Loo. He is, like you said,
Speaker 2: the CEO of Manguy is golf resort. And listen, ladies
Speaker 2: and gentlemen, you heard the offer. All you have to
Speaker 2: do is make sure that you make contact with the lodge.
Speaker 2: If you're going too Angla. You only pay for your
Speaker 2: flight tickets, you drinks, your food. They will sort you
Speaker 2: out with the accommodation and some nice golf on the
Speaker 2: number one result day is in Angola. That's weekdays. So
Speaker 2: if you didn't get the details, you can contact us.
Speaker 2: We will be delighted to help you because I believe
Speaker 2: that every single person needs to experience golf in all
Speaker 2: different parts of the world. And make sure that you
Speaker 2: engage with more people and continue building the society. So,
Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen, we are at the end of our
Speaker 2: slot today. That being said, I have to say, don't
Speaker 2: say you've heard it from me. My weekend is starting today.
Speaker 2: If you're going to work tomorrow and make sure that
Speaker 2: you go refreshed and then you do your ultimate best
Speaker 2: to perform Friday. Yeah, you can start contacting me so
Speaker 2: that we can make plains, so that you can start
Speaker 2: playing golf. So with that being said, ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 2: the Magician, the boy with a lot of flayers, the
Speaker 2: classic man, I am Tony tone and I am signing out,
Speaker 2: thank you, I love you. The Magician