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Speaker 1: Well, I would like to welcome to our podcast.

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Speaker 2: This week it is the WBC Light Heavyweight Champion of

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the World, David Benavidez, also the WBA's regular title holder.

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Speaker 1: David, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to this fight you have coming up

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November twenty second on the Ring Magazine pay per view

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card from read Saudi Arabia. You'll be headlining defending your

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title against Anthony Yard, the experienced venter who spot for

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world titles before. So welcome to the show. I know

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you've recently just gotten to Saudi Arabia. I was the trip,

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and tell me about your thoughts on on making that

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long excursion to the other side of the world for

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this fight.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I felt really good.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm really excited for this. It was extremely

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long trip, but you know, now we're here, so the

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hardest part of the travel is over.

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Speaker 1: But I felt really good. Man.

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Speaker 3: I've been working extremely hard for this training camp. I

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got like about four months and a half training and

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every camp, you know, for me, seems to be the

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best camp because you know, the stakes keep getting highed,

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you know, I keep you know, I'm getting more experience,

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you know, and I'm I'm finding myself in a comfort zone.

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You know, I'm really getting into my prime now. So

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I felt really good. Man, I've been I've worked extremely hard.

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I didn't leave any stone unturned, conditioning, sparring, running, Everything

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came out really well for this fight. You know, I'm

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only you know, I'm nine pounds away from the weight

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cut or from the weight right now, so you know,

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I'm a little bit ahead of schedule.

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Speaker 1: So I'm very excited. I'm very happy.

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Speaker 3: You know, they've treated me really good. I've been received

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really well here and you know, I'm excited for this

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for the real season card.

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Speaker 1: So one thing I wanted to ask you about that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I was at your last fight back in February,

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had a great win against David Morrell in a really

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good fight, and there was a lot of discussion after

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that fight because your about took place just a week

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or two before they had the rematch between Dimitri Bibo

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and Arthur Better Viet that were fighting for the undisputed title,

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and you had been invited to attend that fight by

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Turkey Alshikhus putting on this cart. And I remember you

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came to the press conference after your victory. You were

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very respectful, but you're like, listen, you know what, I'm

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making my fan base here in Las Vagas. This has

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been one of the best event I've had. Great crowd

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that was on fire for your fight, good performance, and

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you were building yourself and your preference was to continue

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to build yourself in Las Vegas and not go overseas

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and fight in Saudi Arabia. And now here we are, uh,

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you know later this later that same year, and in

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fact your next fight will be in Saudi Arabia, uh,

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in this fight against Anthey Art. So I'm wondering what

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was uh, what was it that changed? I mean, I

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assume there was a financial offer that you couldn't refuse, perhaps,

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but what was it that made you change your mind

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and and uh and and decide to leave Vegas and

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go to fight in Saudi Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So it was actually suggested by you know, PBC Al

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Haymon and samsu Lucus that I fight over here. They

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you know, they gave me a pretty good offer. And

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then not only about this this fight in particular, but

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you know, there may be you know, other great fights

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that we could look, we could see into maybe with

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arts are better be it maybe will be bold, and

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you know it's my right to come out here. And

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you know, and and uh contend for the world titles.

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You know, I've been you know, decline to fight, you know,

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to unify the titles on one sixty eight. So you know,

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one seventy five, I was you know, I was the

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number one contender for the WBC. You know, I was

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elevated for the WBC World Champion Championship. But you know,

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my al Haim and Samson Lukewitz and PBC, you know,

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they're really cool about it. They suggested that I fought

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over here, so you know, it's a it was a

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win win situation.

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Speaker 1: For both of us.

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Speaker 3: You know, I definitely did want to stay in Las

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Vegas and fight my next fight, but you know, things happen,

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and you know, this is this is another great opportunity

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for me, you know, and and and in my career,

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you know, and and ultimately my goal is to unify

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the belts at one seventy five. You know, I was

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supposed to do that against Dmitri Buvolt, but he got

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injured and they say they want to get the fight

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with with uh er better be it for the third time.

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So you know, we got to just wait patiently. But

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while we wait patiently, this is the next best fight

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that we can make happen.

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Speaker 2: So what do you think, though, when this is over,

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we'll see you back in Vegas in the not too

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distant future.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. You know, we've had to see

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things go. But I definitely do want to go back

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to Vegas and fight. Like I said, I want to

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you know, my market is in the US. Well, like

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I said, there was an opportunity here that I could

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fight for the fans of Saudi Arabia, and you know,

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I'm just excited to be here and perform for these

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fans out here.

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Speaker 2: Well, you mentioned about, you know, some of the other

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names in the way class and how you you know,

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had been elevated from interim, and I was I'm interested

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to hear. The perspective from the fighters is, Unfortunately, in

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today's boxing day and age, there's a lot of tremendous

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fighters that get their belts because they've become interim champions

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and don't get necessary to fight the actual champion to

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win that belt. That title holder might vacator, something happens

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and the other guy gets elevated, which was.

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Speaker 1: The case that happened to you.

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Speaker 2: Is there any sort of sense of disappointment that, Well, certainly,

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I don't think anybody's gonna look at David Denavie to

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say you're not a worthy champion and fight heavyweights or

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when you were at super middleweight, but that the way

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that you obtained the belt was because of being elevated.

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That it kind of it denies you of the of

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the of the thing that every champion wants to hear,

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you know, and the new you know in the ring.

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Speaker 1: How do you square that circle? I guess yeah, it

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was for me.

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Speaker 3: It's a little I'm not gonna say disappointing because you know,

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I'm still I got the world title, but I would

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I'm an old school fighter. I'd rather win it. I'd

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rather go in there and win it in front of

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a crowd. Well, like I said, nonetheless, the world title

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is a world title, you know, and that puts me

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in position to get other big fights, you know, with

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with with h for other world titles. So, like I said,

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it's a little disappointing, but at the end of the day,

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you know, world world champion right now, so that's all

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that matters.

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Speaker 2: Well, you mentioned a little bit about the you know,

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the very rigorous travel, tough travel to get there, a

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long trip from the United States, particularly being on the

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West coast, to get all the way to read and

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now because the fights and read uh at least to

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accommodate the audience for this fight, which is going to

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be largely an American audience because of your fight and

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as well as some of the great undercard fights on

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the show that are American bass fighters. It's going to

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be at an unusual time. Uh, not for us here

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in the United States where we'll see it when we

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normally would see fights, but for the boxers involved, it's

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going to be basically the middle of the night. We've

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seen that happen with some other fights. How are you

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dealing or how do you plan to deal with sort

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of the adjustment to make sure that you're at your

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best when you might be fighting at like four in

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the morning local time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I've adjusted my my my sleeping schedule. Basically,

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I'm more of a night out now, you know. I'm

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actually about to go to the gym right now at twelve.

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Gets started probably in like around two thirty or three,

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but I came here a month earlier. I've been in

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Dubai the past three weeks, so you know, just just

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to deal with the time difference and all that. But

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I've already started training at twelve, so my body's getting

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has been getting used to that. Fighting at night. It's

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something different for me. You know, I'm not gonna say

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that I'm gonna know exactly how I feel fighting at four,

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i am, but you know, we're we're taking the right

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precautions to make sure the body gets used to the

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late the fight change.

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Speaker 2: Well, certainly, if you've already been over in Dubai for

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three weeks, the time there compared to Saudi Arabia is

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a lot more similar than if you were still, you know,

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here in the United States.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, let's talk a little bit and the art.

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Speaker 2: He is your opponent, a well known fighter, certainly to

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the British fans anyway, a respected veteran, challenge for the

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world title twice before. This will be his third opportunity.

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He is oh and two in those fights, he got

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stopped in round eleven by Sergey Kovalev, and really what

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was Sergey's last big win in twenty nineteen. Followed that

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up in twenty twenty three, he got knocked out by

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Arthur better Viev in the eighth round. He has won

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four fights in a row since then. He avenged a

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loss to Lindon Arthur in April. I wonder what is

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your view of Yard and in terms of where he

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is in the scheme of the light heavyweights, you know,

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he has lost, like I said, in the moments where

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he has stepped up seems to me in terms of

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his skills, and I don't mean this negatively basic, you know,

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but with good punching power.

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Speaker 3: Also, yeah, he's a good fighter, but unfortunately for him,

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he's going to be oh and three in world title fights.

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You know, he's, like I said, you put on some

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great performances, but nonetheless he's came up short every single time.

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And you know, I put myself on the same level

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or if not better than those champions that you mentioned,

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you know, like better Vi a Covid le f and

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you know, but he's gonna us going to come in

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tremendous shape. You know, he's you know, he's a strong fighter.

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different level right now. I feel like I've seen that

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type of fighting style before over and over again. But

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you know, like I said, I didn't take him easily.

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I didn't take him lightly. I'm not overlooking him. I

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heard his trainers saying that I'm overlooking him. I've never

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overlooked anybody. That's why I'm in the position I am

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right now. And if anything, I probably trained harder from

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him than I have for anybody else. You know, like

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I said, I have four months and I have training

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for this training cabin. I'm tremendous shape, and I feel

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really good, and I see a lot of opportunities for

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me to hurt him in a lot of different cases.

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And so you know, I've put together a great game plan.

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Now it's just for me to go in there. You know,

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follow my game plan, you know, keep my distance, use

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the jab, attack the body, through the combinations, and you know,

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Speaker 1: Continue to attack.

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Speaker 3: But like I said, I see a lot of holes

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in his game. And you know, if I follow my

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game plan, if I follow my game plan perfectly, I

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see myself stopping him.

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Speaker 1: Well, I was gonna ask you about that.

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Speaker 2: You're this is gonna be your third fight now since

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you've moved up from Super Midawaight at Super midtaweight, you

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are pretty much destroying everybody, knocking guys out looking uh,

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you know, not just good in terms of winning, but

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in terms of doing it in style with the stoppage.

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In your two fights so far at seventy five, you

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went the distance with a former champion, Alexander Votzik, and

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then you had the decision. Also, you know, both of

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them were clear decisions against David Morrell as well. So

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I guess there are some people that say, Okay, he's

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got two fights at light heavyweight, went the twelve round

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distance both times. Did he carry his punching power that

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was so evident at super midawaight into the light heavyweight division.

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Obviously we'll see what happens in the fight with Anthony Ark,

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But how do you think that that has translated? Are

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you still the puncher at light heavyweight that you work

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at super middleweight?

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Speaker 3: No, I definitely do feel like I'm the puncher. It's

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just that and now I've noticed that going up in

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weight class, these guys are bigger, So you you don't

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have to shrictly just focus on punching power. You have

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to go back to the basics. You have to use footwork,

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you know, you have to use combinations, You have to

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set things up. You have to use the distance. And

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like I said, I've I've worked on the things. I've

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worked on those things. You know, I've, like I said,

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I've put together a really good game plan. And you know,

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people are gonna say whatever they want to say. But

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at the end of the day, once he's seen both

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those fights. I heard both those fighters in both of

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those fights.

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Speaker 1: So that's true.

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Speaker 3: Power hasn't The power hasn't gone anywhere, you know. Like

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I said, I just need to set it up a

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little bit better. And you know, and you know, follow

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my game plan more. You know, like I said, me

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and my father, my team, we put together a great,

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great game plan. So now I'm gonna just I'm gonna

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go in there, follow the game plan. But I guarantee

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you I will hurt at the yard in there, and

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you know, I do see myself stopping him in the

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later rounds.

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Speaker 2: I know you spent all that time chasing Canelo Alvarez

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when you guys were both in the super midweight division.

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Speaker 1: I was wondering. You know.

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Speaker 2: He come off a loss in his last bet in

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September against Terrence Crawford, who moved up two way classes

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to fight him, And I wonder when you saw the

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way that he performed, which certainly he did not look

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at his against Terrence Crawford, who fought obviously a really

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good fight. Uh, do you think that that performance was

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sort of the proof needed to show that he was

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Probably for him, it wasn't his best interest to mess

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around with David Denvitez.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 3: I think that's why they put the fight. You know,

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they that they didn't want to fight for such a

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long time, and that's why they keeps shooting the question

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down when every time to ask him. They know that

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I'm not coming to play any games. They know I'm

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a strong fighter, they know I'm a red lentless fighter.

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They know I have a great gas tank in the fights,

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so they knew they definitely know him a big problem.

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You know, whether whether I say that there he was

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ducking me or not. You know, that's gonna, you know,

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bring up a whole lot of stuff.

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Speaker 1: People are gonna say this and.

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Speaker 3: That, But at the end of the day, I know

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what I could do in there with Canelo aubera Is

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and he knows what I could do as well. So

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you know, maybe this this fight, the loss with him

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in Terrence Crawford. Maybe this puts me at a better

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position to get a fight with him, because now what

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is Canelo going to do. He doesn't have any belts,

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there's not really anybody else for him to fight at

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one sixty eight. In my opinion, his best interest is

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to come up to one seventy five fight Callum Smith,

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get a victory with Callum Smith or whoever however that

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fight plays out, and then I could get the winner

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that fight. You know, That's really what makes sense to

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me in my head. But like I said, Canello could

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do whatever he wants. You know, I'm I'm chasing my dreams.

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You know, my dreams are unifying the world's world championships,

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the world titles. Dmitri Beeble has that. So if whenever

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he fights him and arts are better be it. You know,

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whoever gets whoever wins that fight. You know, I'm definitely

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going to be pursuing a fight with that with that

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person to unify the belts.

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Speaker 2: Which makes a lot of sense because you're the mandatory

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and they're the two biggest names, and honestly, if you

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take a look beyond the two of those guys, and

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then there's yourself. Of course, there's not a lot beyond

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that in terms of true depth in the division, and

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so hopefully at some point we'll see those fights. But

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one thing I'm interested beyond that is, and you've said this,

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I think in the past that at some point David

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Benavidez is going to be a cruiserweight down the road.

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I found with interest that recently when Oscar de la

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Hoya promoted his card in between Virgil Artis when he

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had his fight against ericson Lubin. They did an interview

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with him during the dizone broadcast and he was talking about,

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you know, the return of from injury of the unified

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cruiserweight title holder Zerto Ramirez that he promotes, and they

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were talking up the prospect of when he comes back,

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would he do a you know, a big cruiserweight fight

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against ji Opataia, who was of course the IBF and

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the lineal champion. And Oscar said, yeah, we'd love to

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make that fight. But Denny said, I got another idea.

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He said, what would you think about Zerto Ramerez against

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David Benavidez. And I was like, yeah, that's the hell

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of a fight. Is your future? I know you got

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stuff to accomplish that light heavyweight or as you said,

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in your prime but in the maybe not too distant future,

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does cruiserweight beckon and what are your thoughts about those

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fights that were mentioned, whether it's Opataia Zerto all Mexican

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kind of battle.

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Speaker 4: To be honest with you, I think it's very clear

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that I've been trying to achieve great and this no

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matter of what weight class on that. So right now,

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I got my fight with Anthony Yard, But if I'm

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able to get a fight with Zula Ramirez my next fight,

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then that's the route I'm I'm gonna take, you know.

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Speaker 3: Like I said, I want to be an all time

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great by the time my career is finished. And I

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feel like if we can make the fight with Ramirez

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happen next and I definitely take that fight, you know,

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and then after that we'll see what comes, you know

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what I mean.

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Speaker 1: But I'm ready presented itself.

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Speaker 3: A fight well over Tile would be a great fight,

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But like I said, I'd want to get my feet

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wet at the cruiserweight division first, because in my opinion,

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over Title is the strongest fighter at cruiserweight. So if

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I could get a fight with Suda Ramirez then come

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back down and when and when the unify the titles

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in one seventy five, I would definitely go back up

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to cruiseweight and fight over the title.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot of.

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Speaker 3: Great fights, you know, I said, We're we're in a

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great position right now where there's so much good fights.

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All I gotta do is continue winning, continue doing my part.

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And but I will, like I said, I'm a man

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of my word. I'm gonna give my fans the best

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fights possible. If I'm able to make these fights happen

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and negotiate a deal any of these champions, I am

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gonna take it well.

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Speaker 1: I think fans would be loving.

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Speaker 2: I love to hear that, and obviously it all starts

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in terms of that halfway. You got the big fight

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with Yard November twenty two on his own pay per view. David,

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thank you very much for your time, enjoying your time.

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You're on a business trip to Saudi Arabia.

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Speaker 1: Good luck to you, Yes, sir, thank you