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<v Speaker 1>I was born and raised in what used to be

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<v Speaker 1>rural Madison County and North Alabama. It was a kind

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<v Speaker 1>of place where everyone knew everyone. That meant kids always

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<v Speaker 1>had to be good, because misbehavior would always make it

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<v Speaker 1>back to their parents. In nineteen seventy four, when I

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<v Speaker 1>was eight, we had some of the worst tornadoes this

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<v Speaker 1>area has ever seen. My grandfather, who lived in Mississippi,

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<v Speaker 1>died during those from a heart attack. Afterwards, there were

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<v Speaker 1>so many trees down it was hard to imagine it

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<v Speaker 1>was the same place. There was a family that lived

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<v Speaker 1>about a half a mile away from ours who had

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<v Speaker 1>girls close to my age. We would meet in the

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<v Speaker 1>woods and play. We made up names for different stands

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<v Speaker 1>of trees so we always knew where to meet. The

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<v Speaker 1>big stand that was the farthest from any of our

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<v Speaker 1>houses was called Big Pines. Little Pines was closer to

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<v Speaker 1>their house. Tiny Pines was right behind my house. Our

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<v Speaker 1>imagination in naming them knew no bounds. It's pretty original. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it just reminded me of a story about my son.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'll tell you all that another time. She writes.

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<v Speaker 1>The summer after the tornadoes changed the look of the

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<v Speaker 1>woods a lot, especially the Big Pines area. There was

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<v Speaker 1>one place where three trees had fallen together that we

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<v Speaker 1>decided to make our clubhouse. The trees had fallen in

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<v Speaker 1>sort of a triangle, with one on top and two

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<v Speaker 1>on the bottom. Once we got inside and started cutting

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<v Speaker 1>out the inner branches to give us room, it was perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>We started bringing in some stuff so that it was

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<v Speaker 1>more homey and to make it our clubhouse. It was

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<v Speaker 1>still a time when kids were giving free rein of

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<v Speaker 1>their days, and I could tell my parents that I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to meet Donna in Big Pines and they'd answer, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that was enough for them. There was no checking in,

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<v Speaker 1>no specific time to be home, and no stranger danger.

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<v Speaker 1>Back then, I wish my daughter could have experienced that

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<v Speaker 1>easy freedom that's gone forever now. On this particular day,

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<v Speaker 1>Donna and I were going to meet at the clubhouse

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<v Speaker 1>in Big Pines. I don't remember what time it was,

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<v Speaker 1>but I got there before she did. I was playing

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<v Speaker 1>around inside the clubhouse when I heard something. I figured

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<v Speaker 1>it was Donna coming, so I didn't think much about it.

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<v Speaker 1>After a few minutes, Donna didn't show up. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>got curious, so I peeked out through the branches in

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<v Speaker 1>the clubhouse, and I looked around. At first, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>see anything. Donna's older brother was fond of harassing us,

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<v Speaker 1>and if it was him, I didn't want him to

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<v Speaker 1>know that I was there. That guy gave me the

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<v Speaker 1>creeps back to playing inside the clubhouse, but I kept

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<v Speaker 1>hearing small sounds, so I would periodically look out in

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<v Speaker 1>their direction. And I still didn't see anything, but I

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<v Speaker 1>noticed that all the normal sounds coming to the woods

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<v Speaker 1>were gone. It was eerily quiet. Finally, I caught a

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<v Speaker 1>glimpse of something that was large, black and tan and

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<v Speaker 1>about the same size as my German shepherd's Sindbad. Even

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<v Speaker 1>though he never followed me to Big Pines, I assume

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<v Speaker 1>it was him. I didn't call out to him. Instead,

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<v Speaker 1>I watched to see what he would do, or if

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<v Speaker 1>he would find me hidden in our little clubhouse. A

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<v Speaker 1>few minutes passed, I'm not sure how many. I was

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<v Speaker 1>only eight at the time. It didn't move much, so

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't get a good look at it. I was

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<v Speaker 1>considering just calling him to me so he could play

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<v Speaker 1>in the clubhouse with me, when I suddenly felt very

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<v Speaker 1>glad that I didn't. I was looking directly at it

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<v Speaker 1>when with no warning, it jumped onto the trunk of

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<v Speaker 1>a pine tree and climbed straight up. My dog could

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<v Speaker 1>do a lot of things, but he could not climb

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<v Speaker 1>a tree. Now froze and for a minute I just

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<v Speaker 1>sat there, and whatever it was, I never saw or

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<v Speaker 1>heard it climb back down. I didn't move for two hours.

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<v Speaker 1>Donna never came. I don't remember why. At that point,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure I would have wanted her to. I

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<v Speaker 1>had heard of a mountain lion being caught in the

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<v Speaker 1>area over thirty years earlier, but there had been no

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<v Speaker 1>sign of one since. I've often wondered what it was

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<v Speaker 1>that I saw that day, but I'm convinced it was

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<v Speaker 1>not a mountain lion. I never went back to Big

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<v Speaker 1>Pines alone again. I still live within a mile of

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<v Speaker 1>that area. I lived way back off the road at

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<v Speaker 1>the edge of the woods and mountains, but I've never

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<v Speaker 1>seen anything that terrified me a lot that we do

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<v Speaker 1>have black bears and bobcats here, but it was neither

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<v Speaker 1>of those. I can still shut my eyes and see

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<v Speaker 1>it in my mind, and even as an adult, I

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<v Speaker 1>have no answers. Oh Beca, Becca Beca. What a great story,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm sure it still haunts you today. And I

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely understand what you said there at the end. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like these images are cast in your mind forever. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like you never you never forget exactly. It's never hazy,

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<v Speaker 1>it's never far off in your memory. Whenever that memory

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<v Speaker 1>comes back, it is exactly the same and as exactly

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<v Speaker 1>as you saw it the day you saw it. I

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<v Speaker 1>have a few of those. They don't have to do

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<v Speaker 1>with monsters. They may have to do with my father,

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<v Speaker 1>or my mother, or you know, some event in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>I know exactly what you mean. And to see something

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<v Speaker 1>like that as an eight year little, eight year old

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<v Speaker 1>little girl, I'm sure that's something that scared you to death.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'll make one suggestion. And I don't know that

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I'm not always I never try to debunk

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<v Speaker 1>these stories. I just read them and we go on.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember when I was a kid, there weren't there

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<v Speaker 1>were hardly any any any turkeys at all in the woods,

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<v Speaker 1>and I saw this thing run up a tree, or

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<v Speaker 1>it looked like it ran up a tree. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a big big to me, it was big, a big,

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<v Speaker 1>dark object, and it made these weird noises when it

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<v Speaker 1>flew up in the tree, and it was right in

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<v Speaker 1>the evening. Like you, I remember that vision vividly, and

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<v Speaker 1>I can run it through my mind. And the more

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<v Speaker 1>I think about what I saw after years of hunting turkeys,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure that's what I saw. But I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even know turkeys were in the woods when I was

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<v Speaker 1>a kid. I thought turkeys were something that people raised

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<v Speaker 1>on a farm. I'm not even sure I knew what

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<v Speaker 1>a turkey. A turkey to me was a big, frozen,

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<v Speaker 1>giant heavy ball that you pulled out of the freezer

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<v Speaker 1>at the grocery store. Then I figured out what they

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<v Speaker 1>were and we started hunting them. By the way, a

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<v Speaker 1>wild turkey doesn't look like that when it's when it's

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<v Speaker 1>cleaned out. They're they're quite a bit smaller, but they're

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<v Speaker 1>but the meat is delicious. It is so good that

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<v Speaker 1>when you breast them out, they're just oh man, it's

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<v Speaker 1>some of the it's like the nectar of meat. To me.

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<v Speaker 1>That and venison just the best meat in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>It's clean and it's it. They don't they're not fed.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I'm going off on a tangent again. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't mean to do that, but so maybe it was

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<v Speaker 1>a turkey, I'm not saying it was, but think about that.

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<v Speaker 1>You have the image in your mind, Maybe get on

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube and look at things climbing trees and kind of

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<v Speaker 1>zero in on a turkey and see if that's not

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<v Speaker 1>what you saw. But if that's not what you saw

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<v Speaker 1>and it was bigger and more menacing, then it could

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<v Speaker 1>have been a bigfoot, could have been a dog man

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<v Speaker 1>or some other creature that wanders those woods. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>but I love the story, Becca, and I really appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>you sending it. Nioma liked it too. She was telling

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<v Speaker 1>me that it's one of those stories it just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of makes her skin crawl because I don't know, especially

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<v Speaker 1>as it happens with little kids and stuff. It's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of speaky. But Becca, thank you. I'll lave

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<v Speaker 1>quit yack and hear.

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<v Speaker 2>My first encounter with what I believe was a bigfoot

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<v Speaker 2>happened in nineteen eighty five or eighty six, when I

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<v Speaker 2>was about three or four years old. My parents and

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<v Speaker 2>I were living with my dad's mom on a little

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<v Speaker 2>dirt road in western Georgia at the time, less than

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<v Speaker 2>a quarter of a mile from my grandmother's house. Was

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<v Speaker 2>a small graveyard. It seemed like people were always there

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<v Speaker 2>fixing headstones. I would watch as they reset stones that

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<v Speaker 2>had been pushed over and repair those that had been

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<v Speaker 2>broken in the process. Even in my late teens, I

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<v Speaker 2>remember writing past and seeing the people working on the headstones,

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<v Speaker 2>some for the third or fourth time. One evening, my

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<v Speaker 2>dad decided to walk to his mom's brother's house about

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<v Speaker 2>a mile down the road. I was a daddy's boy,

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<v Speaker 2>so I went with him. There was a full, bright

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<v Speaker 2>moon that night that hung in the sky like a

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<v Speaker 2>giant lantern. It was so big I felt like I

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<v Speaker 2>could reach out and touch it. Dad was walking in

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<v Speaker 2>front of me, maybe ten or twelve feet. As I

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<v Speaker 2>passed the lock gate to the cemetery. I jumped when

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<v Speaker 2>I heard what sounded like a wet rug being dropped

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<v Speaker 2>onto a concrete floor, followed by a heavy chuffing sound

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<v Speaker 2>like a bull when it coughs. I looked at my dad,

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<v Speaker 2>unsure if he'd heard it, but then he turned a

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<v Speaker 2>little to the right without quite turning, offered me his

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<v Speaker 2>hand without quite lifting it from his side, and said,

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<v Speaker 2>come on, son, and a soft voice that was not

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<v Speaker 2>quite ominous from the house to the graveyard. The little

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<v Speaker 2>dirt road as straight. There are no curves or hills

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<v Speaker 2>to obscure the view from the house where we stood.

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<v Speaker 2>Just before I moved to take my dad's hand, I

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<v Speaker 2>glanced over my shoulder, but I couldn't see our house

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<v Speaker 2>or the street light in our yard. I couldn't see

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<v Speaker 2>any of the neighbor's street lights either. I looked back

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<v Speaker 2>several times, but I didn't see anything until maybe the

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<v Speaker 2>fourth time I saw someone behind us. They were about

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<v Speaker 2>thirty or forty feet back. Who's that following us, I

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<v Speaker 2>asked my dad. Nobody, he answered in that same quiet voice. Then,

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<v Speaker 2>in an even softer voice laden with urgency, he added,

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<v Speaker 2>come on. I started walking faster to keep up with

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<v Speaker 2>my dad, but now I was suddenly aware of the

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<v Speaker 2>sounds of footsteps. They were getting harder, louder, closer, faster

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<v Speaker 2>with each step I took. I turned again to look

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<v Speaker 2>back over my shoulder. The distant lights outlined someone big

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<v Speaker 2>in what I took to be a wooly sweater. Before

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<v Speaker 2>I could fully turn back to my dad, I felt

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<v Speaker 2>him lifting me off the ground and swinging me onto

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<v Speaker 2>his shoulders. He began to run with me. I tried

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<v Speaker 2>to look back at the wooly sweater, but it was

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<v Speaker 2>all I could do to hang onto my dad's head

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<v Speaker 2>as he ran as fast as he could. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I was only about three or four then. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>in school yet. I don't remember much beyond that. Clearly

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<v Speaker 2>we escaped our stalker, but my memory fails me beyond

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<v Speaker 2>my dad running with me on his shoulders. Years later,

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<v Speaker 2>when I was in my early teens, I found what

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<v Speaker 2>I thought and still believed to be a den in

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<v Speaker 2>the side of a creek bank. The whole head of

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<v Speaker 2>a cow was sticking out of the hole, half submerged

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<v Speaker 2>in water. As I stood there looking at it, something

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<v Speaker 2>snatched it from the other side of that hole and

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<v Speaker 2>pulled it out of sight. I didn't wait around to

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<v Speaker 2>see what had the ability to do that. I'm thirty

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<v Speaker 2>eight now, and I still have trouble sleeping. Sleeping meanstreaming about,

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<v Speaker 2>wooly sweaters chasing me, and cowheads disappearing into holes and

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<v Speaker 2>once spoke on the phone with my dead aunt. I've

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<v Speaker 2>had two other bigfoot encounters too. I'd rather deal with

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<v Speaker 2>bigfoot than talk to dead people, but both terrify me.

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<v Speaker 2>The things I've told you here are the God's honest truth.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be writing to you about the other two encounters

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<v Speaker 2>I have to tell someone. Maybe once I tell them

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<v Speaker 2>and get them out of my system, I'll be able

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<v Speaker 1>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that was a fantastic story. Can you imagine

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<v Speaker 2>being only three or four years old and your father's

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<v Speaker 2>so frightened he sweeps you up on his shoulders and

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<v Speaker 2>starts to run, and you don't even know what you're

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<v Speaker 2>running from except for something in a big wooly sweater.

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<v Speaker 2>It must have been terrifying. And then later when he

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<v Speaker 2>saw the cow's head and the whole being just pulled in,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, no wonder you don't sleep, Wara. I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't sleep either. Thank you for sending in the story,

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<v Speaker 2>and thank you Cam for letting me read it.

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<v Speaker 1>When I was a young man growing up in central

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<v Speaker 1>long before you could hear any talk about Bigfoot. He

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen thirties. The family farm had big, open fields

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<v Speaker 1>surrounded by rolling forested hills, and he would tell the

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<v Speaker 1>story of two huge creatures covered with dark black hair

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<v Speaker 1>that came from the forest and walked in front of

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<v Speaker 1>he and my aunt across the farm fields. He estimated

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<v Speaker 1>the distance at seventy five yards. When they reached every fence,

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<v Speaker 1>they simply stepped over them, as if they were not there.

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<v Speaker 1>I never made the connection with Bigfoot at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>When I was eight, my dad was reading the newspaper

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<v Speaker 1>and he showed me an article of giant Bigfoot prints

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<v Speaker 1>found in California. The tracks were the first that I

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<v Speaker 1>had heard of Bigfoot. I can remember cutting out the

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<v Speaker 1>article and running down the street to find my friends

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<v Speaker 1>and show them the story. I remember us discussing that

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<v Speaker 1>it was way out in California and that it would

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<v Speaker 1>never come to New York. Well, time went on, and

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<v Speaker 1>when I was fifteen, my friend and I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>go to a party that was twenty miles from our house.

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<v Speaker 1>The only way that we could get there would be

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<v Speaker 1>to sneak our whole. Doca Road towed one hundred motorcycle

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<v Speaker 1>and ride double since we didn't have driver's licenses and

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<v Speaker 1>the motorcycle was also not licensed. We were cutting through

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<v Speaker 1>a state forest about four miles from the nearest town,

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<v Speaker 1>and as we started up a large hill, the motorcycle

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<v Speaker 1>stalled out and was out of gas. We flipped the

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<v Speaker 1>reserve tank lever and attempted to start the bike, and

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<v Speaker 1>we could not get it to fire up. We began

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<v Speaker 1>pushing the bike up the hill. It was really and

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<v Speaker 1>very quiet, and as we pushed the motorcycle, we began

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<v Speaker 1>to hear something walking in the woods paralleling us. It

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<v Speaker 1>was loud and it sounded by a peetle. Whenever we stopped,

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<v Speaker 1>it would stop, and we could hear sticks breaking and

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<v Speaker 1>clearly something walking like a man. We both said, what

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<v Speaker 1>the hell is that? It started to move directly at us,

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<v Speaker 1>this time not stopping when we did. I started yelling

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<v Speaker 1>at my buddy to get that motorcycle started, and just

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<v Speaker 1>as we thought the creature was about to reach us,

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<v Speaker 1>the bike started and off we went. Every hair on

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<v Speaker 1>our body stood on end. We had no clue why

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<v Speaker 1>we were so afraid, and we did not talk of

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<v Speaker 1>this again. Time went on and I began to take

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<v Speaker 1>remote fishing trips to Quebec, and on these trips I

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<v Speaker 1>would always find topographical maps and try to reach an

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<v Speaker 1>even more remote lake for fishing, always trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>to where no one else had fished before. While fishing

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<v Speaker 1>a lake about one hundred miles from Oh God, here's

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<v Speaker 1>a here's a word, I'm gonna blow senataire s e

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<v Speaker 1>n n e t e r r e Quebec sentiary

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<v Speaker 1>sentataire senatire. That's all I can do help meet Canadians.

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<v Speaker 1>I found a lake that would take work to get to.

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<v Speaker 1>We headed down a small river that connected the two lakes,

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<v Speaker 1>and the path was blocked by many beaver dams. We

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<v Speaker 1>would break a small hole in each dam and then

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<v Speaker 1>turn and make a run at it and jump the dam.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a great adventure and fill with excitement of

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<v Speaker 1>virgin waters full of fish. I would have a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to pursue a trophy northern and incredible walleye fishing. When

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<v Speaker 1>we finally reached the lake, the fishing was awesome walleye northerns.

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<v Speaker 1>Cast after cast, there was a silence that I couldn't explain,

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<v Speaker 1>though everything was deathly quiet. Also, there was a feeling

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<v Speaker 1>of fear that I couldn't explain. I had reached one

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<v Speaker 1>of the fishing spots that I had dreamed about, and

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<v Speaker 1>all I wanted to do was leave. I didn't say

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<v Speaker 1>anything about this to my fishing partner, and I convinced

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<v Speaker 1>him to head back. A year later, I returned to

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<v Speaker 1>the same lake, and one evening we were jigging for

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<v Speaker 1>walleye close to the mouth of the river. Something came

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<v Speaker 1>over me and filled me with a sense of fear.

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<v Speaker 1>All of a sudden, we heard a great roar or

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<v Speaker 1>a scream louder than I can explain. I would estimated

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<v Speaker 1>it came from three hundred yards away, and it shook

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<v Speaker 1>my insides and every hair on my body stood on end.

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<v Speaker 1>My fishing partner said the same thing, it was, what

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<v Speaker 1>the hell moment? We pulled up the anchor and we

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<v Speaker 1>headed back to camp, and one of our guides liked

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<v Speaker 1>to sleep in a tent, and after we informed him

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<v Speaker 1>of what had happened, he moved inside and got out

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<v Speaker 1>of that tent. I returned another year later to the

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<v Speaker 1>same lil and was determined to face my fear and

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<v Speaker 1>head up the river and fish that distant lake. And

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<v Speaker 1>when I looked at the topographical maps. I noticed a lake.

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<v Speaker 1>Beyond the lake that had previously filled me with fear,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a river that connected the two, and I

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<v Speaker 1>decided that I would push it a step further and

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<v Speaker 1>travel to that lake. We started before sunrising headed down

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<v Speaker 1>that river. Just as the sun came up again. We

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<v Speaker 1>broke beaver dams and turned and made runs and jumped

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<v Speaker 1>the boat over each one. We crossed five or six

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<v Speaker 1>dams in this manner. We reached the lake and followed

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<v Speaker 1>them up to the small river or stream and started

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<v Speaker 1>pushing forward. We finally hit a shallow spot where the

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<v Speaker 1>boat was dragging on the bottom and I would need

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<v Speaker 1>to get out and pull it. My partner would stay

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<v Speaker 1>in the boat with the motor tipped up. I knew

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<v Speaker 1>why I was there to face my fear. As I

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<v Speaker 1>pulled the boat forward, I noticed a set of tracks

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<v Speaker 1>ahead in the water, mud lifted from the tracks. These

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<v Speaker 1>tracks were fresh, maybe a few minutes old. I reluctantly

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<v Speaker 1>pulled the boat forward to inspect the tracks, holding my

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<v Speaker 1>breath filled with fear. I reached the tracks and breathed

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<v Speaker 1>a sigh of relief, and I yelled back to my

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<v Speaker 1>fishing partner that it was only a bear. Imagine that

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<v Speaker 1>it was just a bear. I should still have been afraid,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was relieved. We finally got to the second

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<v Speaker 1>lake to find very good fishing. We turned back and

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<v Speaker 1>spent the remainder of the day fishing that lake that

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<v Speaker 1>originally filled me with fear. The fishing was great. I

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<v Speaker 1>had no feelings of fear, just caught a bunch of fish.

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<v Speaker 1>I made four more trips to these lakes and never

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<v Speaker 1>had another feeling of fear or dead silence. I was

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<v Speaker 1>talking to my cousin's husband, and he proceeded to tell

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<v Speaker 1>me a story that spun out of control and caused

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<v Speaker 1>him to hurt his father in law. My uncle that

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<v Speaker 1>had seen the swamp monsters today, he recognized them for

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<v Speaker 1>what they were. They were bigfoots or sasquatches. My cousin's

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<v Speaker 1>husband made a set of bigfoot prints and strapped them

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<v Speaker 1>on to his feet and ran through the woods in

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<v Speaker 1>the snow to my uncle's property. My uncle found the

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<v Speaker 1>prince and ran inside and began to call all the neighbors.

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<v Speaker 1>He told them to keep their children and pets inside

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<v Speaker 1>because he had found bigfoot prints and there was one

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<v Speaker 1>in the area. After he called all the neighbors, he

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<v Speaker 1>called my cousin and told her what he had found.

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<v Speaker 1>He explained that he had called all the neighbors and

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<v Speaker 1>warned them. My cousin's husband heard the news and didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know what to do. He said. My uncle never came

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<v Speaker 1>over to their house for an unannounced visit. My cousin's

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<v Speaker 1>husband was in the garage and still had the bigfoot

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<v Speaker 1>tracks hanging on the wall. My uncle walked in and

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<v Speaker 1>looked at the wooden feet with boots attached hanging on

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<v Speaker 1>the wall, and looked at his son in law and

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<v Speaker 1>didn't say a word. He simply turned around and walked

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<v Speaker 1>away with a sad, broken lad on his face. Since

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<v Speaker 1>my experiences, I have known there is something that I

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<v Speaker 1>don't understand that is out there. In my younger days,

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<v Speaker 1>I would travel deep into the woods to deer hunt,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would stay well after dark. Sometimes I would

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<v Speaker 1>make a kill at sunset and track and retrieve my

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<v Speaker 1>kills after dark, with no fear, no feeling of uneasiness.

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<v Speaker 1>But now I don't feel that way. I'm always uneasy

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<v Speaker 1>after dark. I'm always looking over my shoulder if I

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<v Speaker 1>make a kill at the end of the day. It

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<v Speaker 1>is not pleasant to track and retrieve the kill after dark.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always looking over my shoulder, and, come to think

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<v Speaker 1>of it, I rarely hunt alone. One day, I was

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<v Speaker 1>some stones up in the woods stacked in a formation.

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<v Speaker 1>I had heard stories of bigfoot and rock formations. I

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<v Speaker 1>And I didn't think much of it, and I moved

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<v Speaker 1>on hunted the property again and I walked by that

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<v Speaker 1>spot and the rocks were stacked again. I thought, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that's strange. Who would return the rocks to that formation?

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<v Speaker 1>And I began to think if this could be a Sosquatch.

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<v Speaker 1>I changed the formation, and I continued to hunt the

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<v Speaker 1>property and change the formation every time I passed it,

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<v Speaker 1>each time wondering what it could be. One night, after

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<v Speaker 1>hunting with my daughter, we decided to stop and have

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<v Speaker 1>a beer with my brother in law, and after a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of beers, I told my brother in law, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>starting to get a little freaked out about a rock

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<v Speaker 1>formation that I'm finding on this property. I changed the

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<v Speaker 1>formation every time I passed, and it always returns to

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<v Speaker 1>the same formation. When I come back, he broke out

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<v Speaker 1>laughing and he said, damn, that was you doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>We marked our dog's grave with those rocks, and we

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<v Speaker 1>were starting to get a little freaked out ourselves because

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<v Speaker 1>something kept unstacking the rocks. Boy, did I feel stupid.

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<v Speaker 1>This year, I was camping in the Adirondez and my

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<v Speaker 1>a plan to wake up about ten thirty pm and

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<v Speaker 1>He planned to meet a couple of friends there and

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<v Speaker 1>and no idea how to find the trailhead. Well, it

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<v Speaker 1>went in the middle of the night. He returned the

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<v Speaker 1>next day at three pm to my campsite, and he

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<v Speaker 1>watch the sunrise from the tip of White Face Mountain,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, and that about halfway up the mountain they

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<v Speaker 1>ran into an intense smell. He said, it smell like

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<v Speaker 1>garbage and mixed with body odor. Oh, my gosh, these

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<v Speaker 1>oh never mind, it's the descriptions of these odors. They

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<v Speaker 1>catch me off guard and I start laughing. He writes,

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<v Speaker 1>it was so strong that they imagine garbage and body odor. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like some old bomb laying in a big pile

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<v Speaker 1>of garbage. I don't know, laying in a garbage truck

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<v Speaker 1>or something. Okay, I gotta get that out of my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so strong that they had to cover their

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<v Speaker 1>face with a claw. The smell stayed with them the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the night, and when the sun rose, the

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<v Speaker 1>smell went away. He said that on the return hike

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<v Speaker 1>down the mountain, they found no trace of the smell.

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<v Speaker 1>He asked me what I thought. I told him that

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<v Speaker 1>I thought they were followed by a sisquatch. That was

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<v Speaker 1>his thought too, and he just wanted to hear someone

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<v Speaker 1>else confirm his thoughts. Later that night, I sat by

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<v Speaker 1>my campfire, thinking I was possibly changing the rock pattern

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<v Speaker 1>again by telling him it was sisquatch. I know there

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<v Speaker 1>is something out there, but it is not behind every tree.

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<v Speaker 1>And he signs the regards Charles Charles I'm sorry I

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<v Speaker 1>laughed at your story, but I think you got a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you were probably laughing at the whole thing too. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a story I didn't edit. Normally, I get

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<v Speaker 1>these stories in and I read through them and some

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<v Speaker 1>lily hush, she's barking at a chicken. Sometimes it's like

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<v Speaker 1>the order of things is a little out and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>rearrange paragraphs. No, all you bigfoot purists, I don't change

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<v Speaker 1>the stories. I don't write every story. I do make

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<v Speaker 1>them where they sound good. I try to make them

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<v Speaker 1>where they're easy to follow and good. But anyway, all

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<v Speaker 1>that said, I didn't do that on this one. And

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle there's some and I couldn't quite understand

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<v Speaker 1>what was going on with the guy with the wooden

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<v Speaker 1>bigfoot feet walking around. I couldn't quite tell what was

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<v Speaker 1>going on in that part. Maybe you guys want to

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<v Speaker 1>go back and listen to it, but I just read

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<v Speaker 1>his letters straight off. I thought this was a good story,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought it would include. It was a good story.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a really good story. So I hope you

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<v Speaker 1>guys enjoyed it, and maybe all can figure out how

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<v Speaker 1>his cousin or his cousin's husband. How that story went.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody saw bigfoot tracks, they went and warned all their neighbors.

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<v Speaker 1>They found out that they were hoaxed, and they just

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<v Speaker 1>hung their head and walked off. But I couldn't quite

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<v Speaker 1>figure out how that fit in this whole story. But

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't matter. It's a real good story.
