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Where ready for this next episode? I'm excited about it.
Got a special guest for you guys tonight, James Gillilan
as a good friend of mine, man, somebody who I
look up to. Try to mention his name as much
as I can. Dealing with spirituality, ufology, things along those lines.
When I first started this podcast, it was called The
Awakening Podcast and had a couple episodes under my belt
and had the privilege to have James Gillilan on my show,
and it was one of the biggest shows that I've done.
And it was so funny because talking to him for
the first time, I was like a little schoolgirl just
talking to him. I was nervous, I had trouble formulating
sentences and things. I was just so honored to have
him on just for doing so much research and listening
to his work and just hours and hours of stuff.
So I'm privileged to have him on again. And I
think that was back in twenty twelve, and we'll get
into that a little bit too. That was in twenty
twelve when I first started podcasting. So I'm excited to
speak with him tonight. Haven't talked with them since. So
this is gonna be good quick update. We're going to
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and try to make some of the stuff tangible in
their lives versus just hearing about it. So what we're
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the world. I'm excited about twenty eighteen and what is
going on now. Speaking of twenty eighteen, me and James
was kind of getting into a little discussion, you know
before we went live, and I was like, hold on,
we got we got to hold that until we go
live because it's too good and we're going to talk
about that. James Gillia and welcome to the show. Brother.
Speaker 2: How are you doing great? Thanks for having me on
the show man.
Speaker 5: It's good to see you again.
Speaker 4: Brother.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, you too, dude. I just wanted to say,
you know, I put my pants on one leg at
a time like.
Speaker 2: Everybody else, so I want to talk about that too. Yeah.
Speaker 6: I always tell people, you know, it's like, you know,
when you start worshiping things outside of yourself, you know,
you're diminishing your own God connection or spirit creator connection.
And that's going on so much right now. It's it's
kind of sad that needs to to come to an end,
but people are figuring it out. You know, and they're
you know, they're realizing that the real connection is through
themselves yep.
Speaker 5: And it's being authentic. And that's something that exactly even
though because it's something that you didn't do. You haven't
painted yourself to be this big guru or try to
portray yourself in a certain light or an image. You're
just James. You show up. What you see is what
you get. I watched the video just a while ago
of you and Peter jem and out playing music and
just having a good time, you know, just being dudes. Bro.
You know, so I think I think I think that's
a big thing too, because that was a hard for
me to get over because people, you know, we talk
about these deep esoteric subjects and having you know, these
different interactions with ets and aliens and things like that.
People look at that as being so spiritually advanced. But
we're just down to earth. So where is the connection there?
Because your fans want you to be this Jesus figure
when you're like I kind of am, but I'm a
regular dude too, you know, how do we join that together?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 6: It's really excuse me, it's really important to realize that,
you know what I do is I teach people to
lead themselves and to make their own personal connection with creators, spirit,
you know, whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 2: And that's so important nowadays. And you know, because I
was kind.
Speaker 6: Of gifted a drowning, you know, which blew me wide open,
and a few other near death experiences and things like that.
But that also accompanied you know, probably thirty five years
of intense study and initiations with Yogi's and lamas and
things of that nature, you know, But eventually it's one
of the lamas.
Speaker 2: I love what he said.
Speaker 6: He said, the reason there's so few few enlightened people
on the planet is because it's so damn simple, you know.
Speaker 2: And he said, yeah, he said.
Speaker 6: Get out in nature, meditate, focus on love and joy,
and blisten till you become it.
Speaker 2: He said, that's the key.
Speaker 6: And he said, there's just so many distractions, and the
outer world is such a controlling situation where they're always
trying to, you know, keep your nose to the grindstone,
you know, keep you busy, keep you chasing that American dream,
you know, and happiness through external circumstances. And and you know,
you look at a lot of the music and the
and the TV industry and things like that. It locks
you in the first three chakras, you know, survival, sex,
and power. You know, where's the heart, you know, where's
the higher consciousness and energy? And luckily there are people
in the industries now starting to bring this information out
and they're they're doing higher work and you know, telling
people to stand in their own divinity and you know,
you know, be authentic, like you're saying, and you know, respect, respect.
Speaker 2: Your own your own being.
Speaker 6: You know, it's it's like, you know, this PC correct
thing is so ridiculous. I see this going on, and
it's just another big mind control trip.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 6: They want to get everybody you know on controlled, you know,
on the same page. And it's you know, it's just
another big mess. But you're you know, like you're saying,
your real power comes from being authentic.
Speaker 5: That's true, man, because once you finally do that, people
envy that is hold on, how is this guy? He's laughing,
he's smiling, he's crying, he's distraught. You're just being yourself
and other people have this this this shell, this exterior
layer of this person that they have to pretend to be.
And I had to go through that with my fans,
and they want me to be this supreme esoteric guru,
which I guess in a case I am in a sense.
But then in a sense, I'm a regular person too,
and both are. Okay. It's not like I can't show
you the regular side. Who was cheering for the Alabama
football game last night. You know, I'm in Alabama, you know,
so and joining joining the two.
Speaker 2: Man, you know exactly. You know.
Speaker 6: It's like people put me up on a pedestal, you know,
and you know, I burb and fart and tell bad
jokes and I have a wicked sense of humor sometimes,
but I usually use it for you know, teaching and
helping people.
Speaker 2: But you know, I tell you, there's this weird concept
that people don't think that's not God.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: It's like it's like, well, wait a second, may maybe
that if God's on the president, that's God too.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 6: It's like they have like I had this one woman
send me this email just a little while ago, and
I was talking about you know, all the stuff plague
in the planet right now, and talking about you know,
the pedophilia stuff, the Satanic worship, all that stuff, and
she's going, well, I'm totally I'm totally disappointed with you,
you know, because you're not enlightened, or you wouldn't talk
about this stuff. You know, you're doing fear porn. And
I said, well, actually, I'm not in fear, you know,
at all.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 6: I've already died a couple of times. That's not a problem,
I said. And basically, you're afraid to look at these things.
And I said, you're trapped into Stanford University program and
my control program, where you're supposed to see everything is
good and everything is love, and if you look at
the dark side, then it's you. And so don't look
at it, don't address it. And they have all these programs.
A lot of the New Age teachings, unfortunately, are like
a half truth. You know, they don't they don't cover
the whole thing. And you know, and I told her,
I said, you know, being enlightened means to be in
knowledge of all of it, both sides of the coin.
And you just can't look at one side of the
coin and deny the other side, even if it's within you.
You know, and we've you know, we've done you know,
I've had past lives I have full memory of my
past lives I've done. I was a Viking warrior. I
hacked off heads, you know, I was a road bandit
here in Mexico.
Speaker 2: I'm in Mexico now, you know. It's like I've done
a lot of things.
Speaker 6: And I've also been yogi's and lamas and things like
that and fluse spacecraft and everything.
Speaker 2: Else, you know.
Speaker 6: So so but you know, we have to look at
all aspects of ourselves and if we're still carrying energy
around the ones where we had wounds and traumas and
things like that, we need to own it, you know,
and heal it.
Speaker 2: And the more you know yourself, the more you.
Speaker 6: Have compassion for the people that are acting out these
roles you know, that are stepping outside of universal law.
Speaker 2: You know. So it's important to to, you know, to
look at both sides.
Speaker 6: And again, if you're trying to be something else, you know,
if I'm trying to wear white robes and sandals and
see all the right thing and uh and be celibate,
you know, and and don't eat meat, and you know
how they have all these rules.
Speaker 2: It's yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean you're.
Speaker 6: Not being authentic, You're you're being something else. You're not
being true to your soul, and you're not aligned with
your soul. And the more you're authentic, the more you're
align with your soul, and the more you're you're in
your power. So you know, people need to break out
of all these programs, you know, and you know, look
at your dark side, own it, deal it, get.
Speaker 2: The charge out of there.
Speaker 6: Uh, you know, focus on universal law and basically just
focus on creating heaven on Earth.
Speaker 2: It's really that simple.
Speaker 5: When it comes to like having having all these experiences
and all these encounters and stuff, and you know they
kind of I don't know, I don't know about you,
but it almost seems like for me all my work
now is doing is built upon like these foundational encounters
or foundational experiences and stuff. Do you still see as
much activity or there's still as much of a hunger
to kind of get the information out because you know,
I know, especially whenever I reached out to you in
twenty twelve, which was whenever so much fear stuff was
out there, the new movies coming out about these evil
aliens coming to abduct people. I think it was the
fourth cond had just come out, and you put out
a newsletter talking about Man, I'm just growing weary and
well doing and I wrote you about that, And are
you still as hungry for it? Do you still have
as many encounters with the spirit, realm and entities as
you did as you know what I'm saying day one,
or you just kind of still sharing those fundamental truths
that you learn from those days.
Speaker 6: Well, it's even more so, I meane it expands. You know,
people when we have a ship come hover in, power
up and I see everybody get excited, you know, they go,
they go, This never gets old for you. And I said,
you know what doesn't get old is the other people
getting excited and waking up with That never gets old
for me. And I've just done more and more research
and then I find I get so much information from
the higher dimensions and planes, and then then I do
the research and then find out everything they're telling me
and the experiences and the beans that I'm seeing on
the other side are actually in history and they're in
ancient history, you know, and you know, to take a
walk on the wild side, you know, you've got these
feeline beans and lion beings and things like that. And
then you go to Egypt, and you see these statues
of segment and the sphinx, and you know, all these
other things going on, which actually the sphinx used to
be a lion and some king decided to put his
head on it, you know, carve it out later. But
actually these are all recorded throughout ancient history and they're
all part of our history.
Speaker 2: And you know, on the real story.
Speaker 6: Behind the origin of man, the Annoki, all of that
stuff is in the Sumerian text, you know, the tablets,
it's it's on walls, it's it's in Australia Gospered glyphs.
It's the whole history of the Earth is written in
Australia on the Gospeer glyphs, and it talks about you know,
the basically the knuckle dragger, the denisoviean man that was
here evolving naturally when the ships came, and then they
added their DNA and they needed a worker force and
they had to they're trying to save their planet because
when it looped around the Sun, it would lose a
lot of its atmosphere and it would be a mess.
Speaker 2: So they're putting you know, gold dust in their sky,
just like like these other idiots.
Speaker 6: Are putting aluminium and bury him and all these toxic
things you know in the sky instead, you know, and uh,
you know, through the geo engineering. But uh, you know,
it's it's the same thing, only they're doing a little smarter.
You know, I would love to be inhaling gold disks,
you know versus uh y, yeah, strontium and the whole
host of other biologicals you know, like toxic molds and
things like that that playing.
Speaker 2: With you know. So so it's a.
Speaker 6: You know, it's uh uh, there's there's a lot going
on in our ancient history when you we really as
as humanity really needs.
Speaker 2: To know their origins. We need to know where we
came from.
Speaker 6: And it's it's kind of a complicated story because there's more.
Speaker 2: There's much much more going on than then.
Speaker 6: It's not just one thing, it's a multiple of things
that are that happened in the past. So so we
so basically we had these these ancient lerias, very tall
people came, they found the DNA Soviet man, they jumped
him up, you know, they got the gold. And this
actually started in Australia, not in Africa, and then from
there they went to Africa and the African. What's really
interesting is that the gold in Egypt actually came from Ballarat, Australia,
and that really messes up a lot of their theories.
And almost everybody has aboriginal genes. We all have aboriginal genes,
all of us do. In the Genome experient, we found
that out, and that goes back to the you know,
the Denisoviet Man and the blink that happened there. But
we were not just that, because there's been several terraforming processes,
colonization processes that happened on the Earth and people had
to start over due to pull shifts and other cataclysms
and great wars and things. And so we're a big
mix of mainly twelve major star nations that were involved
in terraforming the Earth and bringing their plant and animal
and their human genetics too as well here and as
well as the Earth man that was developing naturally. So
and he's been up and that's been upgraded several times.
I should say man and woman, I should say both,
but uh, we're just a big mix. And that's what
the Genome experiment has brought out, that that there's so
much alien DNA, there's so much plant life and animal
life that was brought here. It didn't evolve naturally. All
of this is showing up in the you know, and
the geological records. You know, who built the great temples
in the past that we can't build.
Speaker 2: Today.
Speaker 6: You know, there's some very advanced beings that came here
and they've been coming going for a long time.
Speaker 5: It's insane too, because like we're still finding new plant
life and new insects and all of these things that
they have never you know what I'm saying categorized, And
it's really interesting that you bring that up. One thing
I wanted to make sure that we touched on, which
I briefly spoke on. I've been podcasting for a while.
I probably started like around twenty eleven, and it was
just all and on, never consistent. I've been consistent for
almost a year now of just podcasting and making sure
that I have a schedule. But I've been off and
on since twenty eleven, twenty twelve, twenty thirteen, all that stuff,
and when it was really deep, the David Wilcox exploded,
you know, the twenty twelve Enigma Mayan calendar, all of
that stuff. There was something that happened in my heart,
just spiritual awakening, and it seemed it seemed to kind
of grow in the lives of people around me, and
you see an interest in these these esoteric subjects and
the Third Eye and spirituality and things, kind of a
re emergence of it. But then we're talking about twenty eighteen,
twenty eighteen. We're off to an awesome start and even
more like I've been podcasting since that time, and I've
gotten messages and I've gotten respect and response and stuff.
But these last couple of months, I haven't been doing
anything different James's I'm just showing up being authentic. But
my inbox is blowing up. Something's happening in the hearts
and lives of people around here.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 5: And you were talking about how that we may not
be in twenty eighteen, that we may just be going
into twenty twelve, and with the whole mind prediction as well,
you want to talk about that a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, actually there is.
Speaker 6: There's a lot of mistakes being made that people are
using the growing calendar to tell us what time it
is and trying to adjust that to the bund calendar.
And I mean, you'll get a lot of lot of
heat when you start talking about this. And I was
talking about it in twenty twelve and I said, you know,
Mark Anthony didn't become Caesar for five years, and they
were keeping the calendar according to to Cazars. So you
know there's leap years and other things, and there's there's
we're at least five years off.
Speaker 2: You know, with the Gregrowing calendar. So you know, if
you if you take those those five years, those those.
Speaker 6: And and add them to twenty twelve, you know, twenty
seventeen would actually be you know, because you've got five
missing years and would be twenty seventeen would actually be
twenty twelve. And so December twenty first, two thousand and
seventeen is when everything is really is supposed to hit
the fan.
Speaker 2: And you can see right now, I mean it's hit
the fan.
Speaker 6: There's no we are undergoing that one of the biggest
shifts that humanity has never experienced right now.
Speaker 2: And it's happening on every level.
Speaker 6: The NASA has realized that we're going through an extremely
energized place in space. They finally admitted it. The cosmic
rays are off the scale, the gamma rays, you know,
X rays.
Speaker 2: All the other rays are just going nuts, and.
Speaker 6: The Sun is reacting to this, you know, with its activity,
and it's been going off like crazy. So you know,
the Sun is the driver, then is the driver for
climate change and everything else. Things heat up first because
of the Sun, and then you get the methane release
and the greenhouse effect and everything else. So man's addition,
then this is going to upset a lot of people.
But man doesn't really do that much to the planet.
I agree that we definitely need to start bringing out
the fueless energy technology and cleaning up the planet. But
at the same time, you know, a volcano does a
lot more, you know, to the atmosphere than man does,
you know, And if they just allowed the Earth to
do her thing and stopped all this geoengineering, when the
Earth heats up, actually when she eats up, there's more
earthquake and volcanic activity, but it creates a cloud cover
and more moisture gets into the atmosphere, and she defends herself.
She'll clear, you know, she'll get through these times naturally.
If these other guys knock off what they're doing, they're
making everything's ten times worse that it doesn't make any sense. Okay,
we're going to save the earth by killing it. You know,
you know, we're going to poison. We're gonna dump so
much aluminum that all of your trees and gardens and
everything are not going to be able to bring up nutrients.
You know, we're gonna put so many heavy metals in
your system that you'll never you know, be hit your
optimum health again. And we're going to turn your blue
skies into a great toxic mess. And in the entrance
of saving the planet. And this is the most this
this is being done by psychopaths. You know, these guys
have not thought this.
Speaker 2: Out at all.
Speaker 6: But but you know, the main thing is that the
nice thing about now is that we've been under what
they call the Draconian grid or the archon grid that's
been running the planet and uh, and it's uh that's
coming to an end. That grid is being torn down.
There's a fifth dimensional grid taking its place. And well,
are you doing us?
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, okay, yeah, so I don't know where do
we cut off?
Speaker 6: Did so that grid's coming down, there's a new grid
taking its place, and the Earth she's expanding as well,
she's evolving, ascending, and so you've got the Earth ascending,
You've got this universal law, this fifth dimensional grid pressing
in and the higher dimensional beings behind it, the Source
itself behind it, and then you've got in the middle,
you've got humanity that has to you know, go to
the next level. You know, we have to go up
to the up to the next level to you know,
to we have to rise to the occasion basically become
frequency specific to the Earth's ascension process if we're going
to stay here. And that's what people are undergoing right now.
It's like the old draconian grid's been torn down, a
new one's taking its place. The days of tyranny are
coming to close because those people that are focused on
domination and control of others and enslaving the planet and
destroy and those guys are all imploding there. That energy
is a very heavy, dense energy, and their worlds are
coming to an end.
Speaker 2: You know, that's that's collapsing right now.
Speaker 6: And when you get into the darkest aspects of that,
and and this is going to upset some people. You
go into the pedophile, satanic worship, child sacrifice stuff, that's
that's the darkest level of that on the planet.
Speaker 2: But you also have other energies above that.
Speaker 6: You know, you have non human influences, and that's why
there's so much inhumanity on the planet because these are
non human influences. So all that's being cleaned up right now,
and you know, we just need to pull away, you know,
don't support the beasts, don't you know, unhook your wagon
from the beast, because it's about ready to go off
the cliff, you know, and start creating heaven on Earth.
And you know, work, you know, work along with with
universal law.
Speaker 5: Basically, just let everybody know we're going to be opening
up the phone lines. The numbers scrolling across the top
of the screen is well, let's end the descriptions on
all the social media platforms and websites. So if you
got a question for James or myself, feel free to
call in. We're making ourselves available to answer any questions
that you guys have, so make sure you take advantage
of that. We'll be taking calls here. Shortly, I wanted
to go into a little bit about this whole recent
NASA or the government releasing this footage of UFO or
whatever that thing was that was in sight of that
fighter pilot, and then they're finally like, no, we don't
research this stuff. We're not into space exploration or aliens
or nothing like that. Then they admit that they've been
spending all of this money on UFO and alien research.
I know what's coming, and I think we have a
similar idea of what's coming. But if you want to vocalize, man,
what do you think that whole thing is with NASA
and the government finally coming out trying to be trying
to give disclosure about the UFO phenomenon and what's taking place.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a mess.
Speaker 6: You know, the same people. You know, they have a
new star. You know they're putting star power behind it,
you know, to get this out. But it's the same.
Speaker 2: People involved as the old disclosure. And what's sad is that.
Speaker 6: I mean, there are some really good people like you know,
Michael Sala and Alfred Weber.
Speaker 2: Or doing their disclosures and everything else.
Speaker 6: You know, they're bringing out that, you know, some really
top information, but you know there are a lot of
posers and a lot of other stuff going on, and
you know the same group is trying to keep it
in the past. You know, roswell things like that, keep
it nuts and bolts and keep you in fear.
Speaker 2: You know, it's it's all bad.
Speaker 6: And even there's some saying it's all good, which is
also totally responsible because it's.
Speaker 2: Not all good.
Speaker 6: But you know the bottom line is that, you know, disclosure,
why not disclose all of it? You know, we have
we've been undergoing a transdimensional war. We've won that part
of it. Now it's coming to Earth and the cleanup
is happening on Earth. There's a huge amount of positive
influence coming in and help that's coming in right now
that they're not addressing.
Speaker 2: They won't address that.
Speaker 6: You know, you've got the Palladians, they're on Council of Light,
the Actians, and Dramedins and Syrians, a whole host of
other beings that are coming to help liberate the Earth.
You know, from these other forces. You're not hearing anything
about that, and and they're not you know, they're they're
keeping it to there. You know, are they real? You
know that's there?
Speaker 2: Are they Are they real?
Speaker 6: You know, it's like, my god, you know, how long
are we going to do this? You know, it's like
you know, they they had a big flyover Texas. They
had a bunch of ships flyover Texas, which is really interesting.
And they did a pole on the local news there
and ninety nine percent of the people believe that UFOs
are real in this pole. Now, they did time seeing
in Pulls a while ago and they were like eighty
six to ninety percent of the people saying that there
is a government cover up in UFO as a real. So,
I mean, disclosures happen. The people already know, you know,
this is a reality. There are some people living in
the dark ages that want to make it all demons,
make it all not real or.
Speaker 2: It doesn't it or say it's all the Secret Space Fleet.
You know.
Speaker 6: Come on, yeah, these things have been coming here before
the Secret Space Fleet existed, you know.
Speaker 5: So yeah, And I think I think the thing that
sets it apart, especially people going out and making contact
for themselves, is that the Secret Space Program don't communicate
telepathically with you, yeah, and tell you about yourself and communicate. Right.
Speaker 6: I had some of these guys I won't mention his
name because but they're on the old disclosure thing. Some
of these guys in there at the ranch and they
flew one of those craft over the ranch and and
everybody got exciting and go, oh, it's it's triangleship.
Speaker 2: It's a UFO, you know, it's one of those tr threes.
Speaker 6: And then they then they flew another thing over and
it was a real stealth jet that looked like a
kind of looked like a UFO. And and both times
they're trying to set me up, you know. And and
this thing came in and I looked at it and
I said, it's not a UFO, you know, and they
got really upset. Even the people there seeing it really
want it so bad. Yeah, And I said, I'm sorry,
it's not a UFO, and they go why And I said,
there's no consciousness there, I said, I said, I'm not
getting any any hits, any signals, nothing from these guys.
You know, whoever's on that jet or that plane is
just a regular dude, you know, a regular guy. And
so sure enough we found out later that it was
you know, it was it was like kind of a
bit of a setup. But but we've had other ships
come in that came in and everybody's getting excited.
Speaker 2: I go, this isn't good. This is not a good one.
And it came in.
Speaker 6: I could feel the energy around this thing and there
was probably fifty or sixty people watching this come in
and then we saw a huge blue flash in the
sky and this ship just turned into powder.
Speaker 2: I mean, there is nothing left of it.
Speaker 6: And I found out later from the other guys they
said that that was a reptilian ship, and they said
that they dealt with it with the same energy, that
it was coming with the same intention.
Speaker 2: It was coming to do harm, and they dealt with it.
You know. You know it's coming for deadly force. They
dealt with it with deadly force, you know.
Speaker 6: So it's a universal law kind of they can interact,
you know, And so you know, the way you deal
with the negative ones is you make friends with the positive.
Speaker 5: Ones, you know exactly. And that's what because like I get,
you know, coming out of religion, and I deal with
a lot of people who are coming out of religion,
and I'm patient with a lot of them, and so
a lot of it is demonic to them. You know,
if you meditate, demons will inhabit your body, things like that,
you know what I'm saying. They want to know, how
can I be sure? It's like, well, you need to
get in contact with the beings of light, those who
have your best interest in mind, right, and uh and
if you do that, then you have nothing to fear.
And because love cast out fear, and and there's scriptures
upon scriptures even for those who are in that to
understand that, uh, that love conquers all, and love is
is greater than than any darkness. And so when it
when it comes to having your own encounters and stuff,
I'm just I'm just afraid of what I'm not. I
don't think I'm afraid of. I just know what's gonna happen.
I know that eventually they're gonna sway this whole UFO
thing that they're letting out and they're letting the cat
out of the back when disclosure has been happening on
the ground level. I know they're gonna they're gonna sway
it for the bad and say that we're you know,
they're gonna create this new al Qaeda, this new threat,
a threat that we need to you know, come together
and you know, fight against and uh, you know, bring
about these new laws and these new uh you know,
take taking away our rights and things like that. They
use all of this stuff to do that.
Speaker 6: You know, Yeah, these I'll tell you what they're controlling
the narrative basically is what they're doing, and that's what
you have to be careful with.
Speaker 2: And there's nothing to fear about the ones coming.
Speaker 6: It's the ones that have been here exactly, and they've
been here for a long time, ever since the beginning.
Speaker 2: They've been here since the.
Speaker 6: Original Aninochi, you know, the fallen Ananochi are part of it.
There's some malevolent grays involved in it, and some reptilian
serpent beans and some other hybrid type of beings that
are involved. But those are all being cleaned up right now,
and they're being cleaned up by the benevolent ones.
Speaker 2: And you know, people want to really do the research.
Speaker 6: These beings are all throughout the Bible, They're all throughout
the Vedic scriptures. You know, you read Ezekiel. I'll tell
you now this is going to be a hard one
for some people. In Ezekiel, they have a shiny disc
comes out of the firmament. It has bronze feet like calves.
It has fire and brimstone coming out from underneath it.
When it lands, it sounds like a thousand rushing rivers.
Speaker 2: What is that? I mean, that's pretty obvious. That's a ship,
you know, and when it lands.
Speaker 6: Out of it comes chair but with wheels within wheels
with flashing lights all around them.
Speaker 2: Those are the little shuttle craft that come out of it.
Speaker 6: And then this man that they call God supposedly steps
out and orders six men with their shattering weapons to
destroy all the men, women and children of Israel.
Speaker 2: And they do. They lay the whole place to waste.
Speaker 6: And then he orders a man dressed in white linen
to reach into the bowels of the cherub them pull
out hot coals, spread them around the city, and henceforth
anybody who comes.
Speaker 2: There will die a hideous death.
Speaker 6: Their hair and fingernails will fall out, and they'll be
food for the raven and the beasts. Okay, the white
linen is probably a radioactive garment, and the caught coals
are most likely some kind of radioactive material, and that's
what happens.
Speaker 2: You know, your hair and your fingernail falls out, and
you die, you know, and so but you know, if.
Speaker 6: We're looking at this from a souper tistition point, you know,
from a superstitious thing, we're not going to understand what
really happened there.
Speaker 2: And that's the origin of the wrathful God.
Speaker 6: And so in the Old Testament, you have this wrathful
God that was a genocidal maniac. Basically, that was a jealous,
wrathful you know, you should fear God and everything else.
And then you have Jesus showing up and he says,
I bring a new covenant and all loving, all forgiving
God a whole new image. And that's where people are
really struggling with this, because they're afraid of becoming toast
by doing the wrong thing because of this old thing
that happened in the past, historical thing.
Speaker 2: And this is going to be a really hard pill
to swallow for people.
Speaker 6: But almost all of the bearded gods were these ancient ancestors.
They were the bearded gods, were the Annaki, the Greek gods.
Speaker 2: All of them were the same beings.
Speaker 6: Some were very loving and serving, and some were self serving,
and some were tired parants, and they had their turf
wars between themselves. And that's a lot where a lot
of the religions came from. And I'm not saying these
books are incorrect. They are historical accounts of things that happened,
but we have to evolve and look at them with
what we know now to really understand what happened the past,
because you also had this.
Speaker 2: There's a prophecy.
Speaker 6: They said, they'll should come a great one that will
bruise the head of the one who bruised the head
of man. And they're talking about Jesus who came with
the good guys and threw these other guys out, you know,
and kicked them out.
Speaker 2: And then you know, and again he.
Speaker 6: Keeps speaking of an all loving, all forgiving God, and
he also says the temple is within that God is
within you.
Speaker 2: You know, it's closer than the hair on your head.
Speaker 6: And you know, everything he talks about was making your
own personal connection and getting rid of the fear, the
fear of being you know, punished and killed and all
that others, you know, all of fear and guilt and
the wordiness.
Speaker 2: You've got to drop that program.
Speaker 6: Ye if that keeps you from making your own personal connection,
which is pure love and join bliss, you know, that's
that's basically what.
Speaker 2: That connection is.
Speaker 5: Good stuff. Brother. Let ever, I know again that the
phone lines are open. I'm gonna take this question from
the chat room. This is a Ginger says, uh, great
to see this duo, and and this is this is
for you, and we've already discussed this on the last podcast,
but we can go over it again. It says what
type of lasers have you guys discussed using to signal crafts,
how are they used? And can either of you direct
us to a recommended source to find out more?
Speaker 2: Ginger, Yeah, you know what I get.
Speaker 6: I have a friend in Japan that brings these lasers
and gives them to me all the time.
Speaker 2: You can get them on wicked laser wicked lasers. Yeah, yeah,
And you're not going to hurt.
Speaker 6: The ships, you know by shooting lasers up at them.
There they know what you're doing. And it's not so
much laser, it's the intention. These these are extremely telepath
they're very spiritually and technological advanced beings, and it's about
your intention. You don't really need the laser, but you can,
you know, shoot the laser, say hey we're over here,
you know, just let them know your.
Speaker 5: Physical representation of your consciousness. We just connect it. It's
like the same thing.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, and that's basically what it is. But you know,
just about any laser work. But it's not so much
the laser, it's the thought. You know that, And by
shooting the light. Your intention is to connect to that ship,
you know, and they get it. They pick it up
and they respond.
Speaker 5: I've had I've had some beautiful encounters with with with
the green lasers, and I put some of it in
my music too. I signally tease, well, my laser beans,
you know, some bit of more music, and they're like,
they're like talking to him. Hey, you know, I really
do that, Like that's I didn't just put that in there,
you know. So it's it's funny when people come back
with the layers, what did you mean by that? And
then it then I get to show them your videos
of you going up. Yeah, yeah, I put it in
the music videos and stuff too.
Speaker 6: It's great you're doing that because I always say, this
venue that ensnared people can free people.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and the same thing.
Speaker 6: It's like the Internet can totally free people, you know,
by bringing this new information out, so that even through
the word, you can, through the word bring people back.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: That got confused by the misuse of the work, you know.
Speaker 5: Heck y, I remember I was like, you know, years ago,
I was just I was kind of turned off by
the Internet. Like I used the Internet, but I was
turned off because I seen Facebook, and I've seen social
media in the early stages of what it was doing
to our content. We're totally different now everybody's changed. Like
it was it was taboo to play to be on
your phone at a table. Now it's like everyone does it,
you know. So I was I was upset with that
because this Facebook, of this global web was mimicking the
global brain and this one consciousness that we're all We're
all always connected. You can walk in the room and
feel what your brothers and sisters are going through spiritually,
like you can able you can feel that. And now
we're always connected via Facebook, And it was just like
a mockery of it, and I was so against it
because you know, but now I guess we have to
work with it now, right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, It's kind of like a lot of people don't
realize that a lot of the technology we have right
now is just to take over.
Speaker 2: The failure of the spirituality.
Speaker 6: I'm not doing our spiritual work, you know, so, and
that's that's a problem, you know, that we're dealing with.
But the uh, you know, like you're saying, you know,
a cell phone, do you really need the cell phone?
Speaker 2: You know? I know who's calling me before they call
me and uh, and you know, people connect with me
and then I call them.
Speaker 6: They go, God, I was just thinking about you, and
I said, I know, you know, so you can use it,
but you don't really need it. You can actually transcend it.
But you know, right now, I think it's just like
money and things like that. It's the exact the exchange
already right now, so so we have to use it too.
Speaker 2: We can use it for good or.
Speaker 6: You can use it for negative, you know, and hopefully
there comes a day when we won't need money, you know,
that will transcend that and be like the other higher
dimensional beings.
Speaker 5: But yep, it's a tool just like just like anything else,
and it can be used for good or bad, you know. Research, Yeah,
self promise, getting your message out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just send it, you know, when things come
to me.
Speaker 6: It just goes right, It goes in one hand out
the other, like I don't you know, and I'm not
attached to it and I don't really care about it.
Speaker 2: And a lot of people think there's there's something crazy with.
Speaker 6: Me, you know, because I'm always just passing it on.
But I said, hey, you know, the more I passed
it on. The more comes and that's been the truth
all along. It's like the more you're in service mode
and helping others, the more it comes to you.
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna jump to the phone line here to
take one of these callers. We have a caller from
New York. Caller, Welcome to the show. Who is speaking with.
Speaker 7: This is Tara in Long Island.
Speaker 5: Hey, how are you?
Speaker 7: Hey, I'm good. Thanks. I have a question. What do
you guys think about the fact that maybe technology is
being withheld from us, or the truth is being with
held because we seem to weaponize every technology we discover,
and maybe that's why it's being with help for you know,
responsibility reasons.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 6: Well, you know what's the truth of the matter is
we have all the technology we need right now for
fuel less energy. We have healing technologies. We have this
thing called the twenty four hour Soldier where a soldier
can get his arms and legs blown off and they
put him in this thing and it regenerates them. We
have amazing technology that's already on the planet. But again,
like you're saying, it's been uh, it's been withheld and
it's used within the you know, the black budget projects
and things like that, and I think that is going
to come to an end here this this next year
and all that's going to be start being released. I
know where some of this technology is, and especially the
FUELSS energy technology and things like that, and I've been
instrumental in getting that ready to be released and so
and some of the healing technology as well. So that's
one of my missions is to bring this out, and
especially the healing technologies. And you know, we have these
magnetic h light tables that you lay on these tables
and they actually create a communication with your theory body,
which is your perfect uh it's it's like the perfect uh,
your perfect self or what you mean, call it the
perfect imprint. And it creates a communication from that level
right straight into your physical cells and repatterns, reprograms, everything.
There's a lot of oxygen therapies coming out, you know,
water technologies, crystallized oxygen, which is amazing.
Speaker 2: You know, cancer is anaerobic, it hates oxygen.
Speaker 6: You increase the blood oxygen and raise the pH and
cancer can it backs it right out of your system.
Speaker 2: So yeah, all that stuff's available.
Speaker 7: I'm wondering if if if they're they're they're worried that
everyone's gonna live forever kind of thing, and then we'll
run out of place's apart.
Speaker 6: You know what, do you think There's a lot of
planets out there that can sustain life much more than
we can imagine. And you know, it's really not a problem.
The problem is consciousness. It's not overpopulation. The problem is
consciousness because if you, yeah, if you're aligned with the land,
you can have a lot of people together and you
can build things you wouldn't even know they were there
and maintain the natural aspect to it.
Speaker 2: And there's a lot of ways of doing that.
Speaker 6: And we have the land, we have the technology now
to drill the wells, to build the homes that are sustainable,
and you know, the field of energy and everything else,
there's no problem with that. The our biggest problem that
we have is this cabal and these guys that have
been siphoning trillions of dollars and with held, withholding all
these technologies from the people.
Speaker 2: And that's being changed as we speak, and these people
are being rounded up and their assets are being taken
and putting back into the treasury.
Speaker 6: And you know, they found like five hundred almost five
hundred and fifty trillion dollars missing, you know, with the
Federal Reserve and these other guys, well, you know, can
imagine putting that back into the treasury and back into
the infrastructure and taking care of poverty and homelessness and
everything else.
Speaker 2: That's going to take care of a lot of problems.
Speaker 6: And then you also have this this mass wealth that's
going to be airmarked for humanitarian reasons that the Chinese
elders are releasing as well. But we have to get
these other guys out of the way so they can't
divert it and steal it like they have been in
the past. And that's what we're doing right now. So
we're going to go through some really big changes and
they're really good. And this this tyranny program and the
gross and even dispersal wealth and all this stuff is
coming to an end here and it's going to happen
very quickly.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there was some guy Ranks, appreciate you calling and
thank you. There were some whistleblowers some years ago who
and we've totally seen it since then, which we're saying
that whatever you've seen in Hollywood, whatever you see in
the movies, just know that we already have that technology
if you can think it. We have scientists that have
already created it. And there's that so much stuff. I mean,
I remember when they were talking about guns that shoot
around corners. There was a movie that came out years
ago with I think it was like I would want
to say, like Ben Affleck and Angelina Joe Lee or something,
but they were there were like these special detectives and
they had guns that they would hold to the wall
and it would shoot around corners. And then several months
after that came out, they started showing this technology where
they had guns that would actually do that, like these
mirrors and they'd hold it up to the wall and
it would shoot and hit the target perfectly. And there's
just so much technology that whatever's in the media, whatever's
in the movies, they've already got the stuff. And we're
so many years behind. I've heard it said, I don't
know if this is true, probably, but I've heard it said,
we're fifty years behind whatever you see in the movies.
That we have fifty years ahead of that.
Speaker 2: Technology minimum, yeah, minimum.
Speaker 5: We have probably way more.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we have.
Speaker 6: We're actually developing ships right now in the black projects
that are jumping dimensions right now. I think one of
the problems with them is that the pilots they get
on these ships and they also they have like a
near death experience when they when they start jumping dimensions
and they come back and they don't want to work it.
Speaker 2: They don't want to be a part of the program anymore,
you know. So it's but no, we have we have.
I've held a device in my hand that's as big
as a small pipelate and it had nine coils in it.
Speaker 6: Each coil put out twenty five thousand watts and it
was ice cold, and that'll run a town basically, and
so and we tried to kill it. I mean, we
hooked it up to all these power strips and we
put the biggest load we could on it. With everything
it could, we couldn't stop it. So that stuff's on
the planet right now. And you know, we have technology too.
You could drop this device down and this device will actually.
Speaker 2: Run on water. It'll take even sewer water, purify it.
Speaker 6: It'll come out crystal clear auxygenated with crystallized oxygen in it,
and the the tos and stuff is burned off and
creates energy and actually drives the It drives the device
plus provides all the energy you need for the whole town. Yeah,
that would that's that's a game changer right there. You know,
you just drop it in the village, bam, everybody fipped up,
you know, and pure one.
Speaker 5: I think it's crazy that, like in the mainstream, we
hear about this stuff a little bit, but that's it.
Speaker 4: You hear about it.
Speaker 5: You hear about these different things that they have created,
machines that they have created where they can burn off
plastic like old plastic and recycled plastic and use it
as fuel. But then they don't do it, and there's
all this this waste that they can use to make
fuel out of. You hear about it, but then but
then they don't do it. It's insane, I tell you.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what.
Speaker 6: Here's an interesting thing because it's really hard for people
to wrap their head around this. But you have to
take it in baby steps basically. So first of all,
you go, hey, guess what did you know that you
could run your car on water that they're already splitting
water and you could run your car on water.
Speaker 2: And then you know, guess what, you know what you
don't even need water.
Speaker 6: You could use these fuels, these generators, and they'll charge
your batteries and you can run your electric car and
go forever. You never have to stop for fuel. And
then you can take them next step so, you know what,
you don't even need batteries. You know, you could put
this thing in there and it'll run your car without
the batteries, and now you can go forever. You can
drive the tires off your car, and then the next
step would be, guess what, you don't even need tires
that you could actually beam up, you know, your car.
You could shift shift frequencies on your car and you
could jump and be in Australia for breakfast.
Speaker 2: And come back to France for dinner and do whatever
you want. You know.
Speaker 6: That's total freedom and that technology we already have today.
But people it's hard for people to understand that that
they're still thinking.
Speaker 2: Oh god, if I could just get that water technology,
you know, and.
Speaker 6: You know, and and some people don't even realize that, yeah, yeah,
they don't even realize the water technology is here, you know.
And you know a lot of people don't realize a
lot of our ships and things like that now are
actually running on water. They're not running on diesel, and
that's kind of a hidden thing of port. I shouldn't
talk about it, but you know, they don't need all
these major ships and vessels out there and things like
that that military stuff doesn't even need.
Speaker 2: They don't need diesel anymore.
Speaker 5: Jumping back to the phone ones we got to call
her from? Looks like it says Pine Crest, uh Ponecrest, California. Uh,
call her from California. Who's speaking with?
Speaker 8: Hey, what's going on, Derek? Yeah, I'm calling in from Brightmore.
I just wanted to ask James Gillen a little something.
How you doing, James Gillen, I'm a big fan.
Speaker 2: Oh, thanks doing great?
Speaker 8: Uh So this is somewhat of a problematic question, and uh,
I'm trying to figure out how to how to put
it out there. I've been following your work. I've been
falling into a lot of people's work. My uh what
is it La mar Zuli Graham, Hancock's work, Er Glendanakans.
But this is going on the darker side of things.
What do you think about what Michael Heizer is pushing
with stitching is wrong dot com? Moreover, all of these
debunking YouTubers that are very popular right now that are
debunking everything, La Marzouli, people like you, Graham Hancocker, Van
Donnikin's pushing out and moreover the way they're diligently shooting
down ancient aliens. What are your thoughts on that? And
I'll take my question off the air, and I wish
you guys the best, many blessings, and I can't wait
to hear what you think.
Speaker 5: Thank you.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like, you know, some of these guys, like
I know La Marzouli once was saying that, you know,
we're opening gates to demons and things like that a
long time ago.
Speaker 2: I think he's changed his position now, I'm not sure.
Speaker 6: But they come from a religious background, and again that's
this box thinking of you know, there's God and then
there's the devil or Satan, and then there's angels and
demons and heaven and hell, and it's a very narrow
scope of things, and they try to they have to
fit things within their program and their belief system and
things like that, and some are breaking out of it
more and more and and a lot of the information has, uh,
you know, it has some truth to it and then
it has a twist at the end, and so you
have to use your own discernment on these things.
Speaker 2: But uh, and you know it's with the ancient aliens.
Speaker 6: I know those guys, and I've talked to them several times,
and I said, you know, you guys, why are you
still anchored in the past.
Speaker 2: I said, it's happening now.
Speaker 6: And Eric von Danik and all these guys, I've had
face to face conversation with him. I said, you know,
you guys, what's going on. I go why, I said,
it's happening now. We're having contact now. All the people
you talked about are back. They're here now, the temple
builders everything. Why don't you cover that? And and they
just said, we're only interested in antiquity.
Speaker 2: We don't care, you know.
Speaker 6: And and it's sad, you know, because because you know
they're in a way, they're giving you some truth, but
it's a half truth.
Speaker 2: Why not bring the whole truth out?
Speaker 5: The sad thing is for me, Man, is like because
and I think that's why my show's flourishing. My show
is doing really good right now. James. I think it's
because I come from the religious background and I'm not
afraid to address it and speak as an authority. And
I've been on both sides. So when I came into uthology,
it was under Lynn mar Zouli and so many other names.
You know what I'm saying, Guy, I'm alone all of
these guys from back in the day, studying their work
and everything that they don't like Christians and probably all
religions or people demonize what they don't understand. If they
don't understand it, it's not of God, it's not in
the Bible, which maybe it is in the Bible, you
just haven't found it yet. And that's that's where I
approach it from. And and so I started studying under
these guys and everything was demonic. Aliens were demons. And
then I found your work, and then I found David Wilcott,
then I found Greer. Right, So, you guys open up
a whole new realm of understanding as people who maybe
approached it at the time, I thought from a realm
that was unbiased. You didn't have an agenda. You just
looked at the information, you looked at the text, you
looked at the experiences that people were having for what
it was, and that was beautiful. So that's why I
migrated from the Marzulis to you guys and fell in
love with your work. And then recently, like a week ago,
a friend of the family contacted my wife and myself
and said that Lynn Marzuli was going to be in
town and he's coming to a church here and thought
that we would be head over hills to go. And
I'm just like as like, my wife was like, hey,
you want to go there, she thought you'd be in
I'm not going to that, like I know you would
think I would want to, But there's like an agenda there,
Like there's an agenda to capitalize even off of the
mainstream with the whole UFO phenomenon now and I can
just see them now talking about it. Yeah, you know now,
so just the UFOs and these are demons, you know,
and oh my god, it turns my stomach. I can't
be affiliate. I can't be around that stuff.
Speaker 6: I don't know, you know, the KNACKA body talks about this.
And there's temple walls in Egypt and they show the levels,
they show all the levels, and they have the lower
levels and they.
Speaker 2: Show disfigured humans and people that really, you know.
Speaker 6: Did a lot of bad things, you might say, in
the lower levels, demonic type creatures. They have creatures that
look just like grays and reptilians. You know, the old
statues have Mary stepping on the reptilian. You know, Michael
stepping on on the reptile. This is all it's all there.
You know, it's all there if you do the research,
and you know the the frescoes, all all these ancient
frescoes have UFOs in them.
Speaker 2: It's undeniable.
Speaker 5: It shows beautiful.
Speaker 6: Baptized baptized and this huge UFO sending golden light above
above Jesus being baptized.
Speaker 2: And so it's all there.
Speaker 6: But you have to get out of the programming, do
your own research. Read the Bible, read the other scriptures,
keep an open mind. And it's not the Devil's not
going to and God's not going to punish you for
doing research.
Speaker 2: You know, do the research, get educated.
Speaker 6: And my thing is that when you know the true
origin of man, it goes even further than that.
Speaker 2: Who created them? You know, And I'll tell you something.
Mehaul led with who was an advisor to the pope.
Speaker 6: He's a very good friend of mine, and he had
access to all the catacombs and all those ancient texts
and everything. And he just came out with a new
book called Saving Jesus, And I really suggest a lot
of Christians get this book and to understand the real research,
the real history of Jesus. But he talks about the
origin of God, the wrathful gods, and he talks about
a greater God that created them. And in the true,
the true interpretation of Genesis, it says, in the beginning,
the Father of all fathers created the gods, who created
the heavens and the earth, and Eloheim, the name for
God has always been plural.
Speaker 2: So so what are they saying here? You know, what
are they?
Speaker 6: And I'm just saying I'm not trying to tell everybody
how to think. Just do your own research. It's all
there and and it goes and then go get the
Lord's Prayer in Aramics. Oh my god, beautiful, total difference.
Speaker 2: It's so beautiful.
Speaker 6: It's a whole different different and it's cosmic in nature,
it's much more expanded. And so when we really do
the research, and I bring that all the time, I go,
here's here's the original in Aramic. Listen to this, and
people go oh my god. You know, they talk about
old cosmic birther and and there's there's you know that
the whole image of the bearded god goes back. Every
religion has their bearded gods, the Greek gods, the Jewish,
all those guys. Jehovah the wrathful, you know, was one
of them. And then you have Yahweh, all loving, all forgiving.
And people have a hard time understanding this, but they're
different beings. They behave differently and we need to understand
the real origin. And it's going to be a hard pill.
Speaker 2: To swallow for some people.
Speaker 6: But we have to go back ultimately who created them?
You know, where did they come from? Did they have
did they have a mother? You know, what about the
House of Mary, you know, which was bigger than jesus'sa group,
you know, his disciples. There was a house of Mary,
the divine feminine that was actually bigger, and that's where
he hung out all the time, and his teachings were
always he said, you know, the temple is within year
all gods.
Speaker 2: Children, you know, of the most high.
Speaker 6: What happens when you grow up, you know, and when
you grow up you expand to become one with the
one consciousness, that comfort with all consciousness that is within everybody.
And that's what ought and you know he never taught
to you know, you should not the fear and the
guilt and unworthiness.
Speaker 2: That's the old program that we have to do, you know,
and that's what controls the masses.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's something that when you know those those people
who come from that, that understanding the Christian realm. They
love to talk about demons. I love to talk about
demons like, I'm down for that. I have a lot
of information on them. I've dealt with exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen them, I've dealt with them. They exist,
you know, I'm not.
Speaker 5: Saying, but it's like they would rather talk about the
demons than talk about the angels. Like we can't have
one discussion without the other. Why is there a demon
around every corner but there's not a help or spirit,
There's not an entity of love and of light that's
here to assist and to help. Why can demons manifest
and contact people? Why why do you get uncomfortable when
we talk about the angels are doing it? And that
The whole story of uthologies from a biblical perspective, ties
right in with angelogy and all of these different types
and rankings, and the scriptures talk about the host of heaven,
which is talks about the fleets of Yahweh, these chariots
of fire that fly through the night skies. I mean,
it's all in there, and it's beautiful. So they get
uncomfortable when we start talking about, yeah, the angels, and
I don't know what you should be had when we
start talking about the angels, you know, and.
Speaker 6: It was Elijah ascended in a fiery chariot, you know,
and he used to go to the river Jabar and
talk to the lights that came down from the sky.
Speaker 2: You know. All that stuff is in there, and you know,
it's so interesting I see over and over.
Speaker 6: When you really understand this and read the ancient scriptures,
you'll find it's all in there.
Speaker 2: They're replete with the experiences. But you have to read
them with an open mind.
Speaker 6: You can't apply the old superstitious dogma to it, or
you'll never understand this. And I mean, it's there's so
much in there. It's just unbelievable that I can't believe
they're missing it.
Speaker 2: You know, they're.
Speaker 6: There's a big difference between going to church and having
somebody tell you what to think versus doing your own research.
That's what I'm saying. I said, don't have somebody tell
you what to think, do your own research and then
start asking questions.
Speaker 5: Yes, And I think maybe that's why my podcast is
doing so good right now, maybe because that it's not like, hey,
take my word for it. I've been to hell and back.
I've got the scars to prove it. Trust me, this
is what happens. Like I am doing that, but I'm
saying you can do it too, Like it's for you
to encounter God, it's for you to have your own
mystical experience these. So there's people, and I don't know
if you've ran into them. I'm sure you have who
have had contact with ships and they're telling the truth.
But their story is that there the chosen ones and
they are the one to bring this information versus the
story I think the narrative which you go out there
and do ce five encounters where you're saying, look, this
is for everybody. If you want to know bad enough,
it's here for you. It's all you got to do
is look up simply, That's all you got to do.
Take the time and do it, so people kind of
get caught up in the whole Messiah complex of yeah,
that they're the chosen one. You know, that's a lesson
for a lot of people too, because maybe maybe you
have to deal with those thoughts, maybe those thoughts even
your mind, maybe there was a point where it crossed
your mind that you were the one that usher in
something big. I don't know if you've had to deal
with those, but you.
Speaker 6: Know there are big that they call faker spirits that
will come in and they'll do flattery and they'll tell
you you're the chosen one and everything else, but they're
teaching separation. Yeah, and you've got to stay humble. You
have to stay humble because when you're humble, you're in service.
And when you're in service, you're connected. But you get
into yourself service and you're the chosen one, and then
you get into all that nonsense they got you the
other side you and and uh, and I see that
happening over and over again. I see that with with
so many people in in spirituality and uphology as well.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Uh, and they're in it for all the wrong reasons.
Speaker 6: And and that's gonna you know, that's going to come
back and bite them in the butt here real soon.
Speaker 5: Before we go. I'm gonna hold you up too long, James.
I wanted to ask you about the whole thing with
like they were seeing. You guys had footage and pictures
of this type of not portal, but some type of
opening and what is it? Mount Adams, Yeah, was opening
and closing and getting smaller and smaller, and and then
there's all of this footage and there's these experiences you
guys have had of ships coming out of the mountain
and things like that. What what all happened with that?
Speaker 2: Well, it's a.
Speaker 6: Base and they live underneath Mount Adam, just like Shasta
and the Tetons and and the yeah yeah, and the Mexico.
They're they're under the oceans, they're everywhere. They're based all
over this planet. And some good ones were the benevolent
ones are here and some ones that were negative we're
here too. The good news is the benevolent ones are
cleaning out the underground ones that the negative ones, and
we're on we're doing a major cleanup process. But where
we are, it's a benevolent stargate and we have you know,
the benevolent ones come and work with people and the
inner Earth. There's a huge, massive cavern underneath us that
these ships come in and out of.
Speaker 2: And the last one we filmed was too big to
go inside the door. It was a mile wide.
Speaker 6: Wow, and so it had had to park outside, and
so we got that whole thing on film. But yeah,
it's these are the times, you know, we're unifying. We're
unifying with the greater family of man. They're bringing back
universal law. This is what all the prophecies have talked about.
The dark hearts are imploding and you know the age
of tyranny is coming to an end. And you know,
this is what all the profits has talked about, you know,
the mind prophecies everything. This is the ninth and wave
unity consciousness is coming through and we have to rise
the occasion.
Speaker 5: Before we part ways, James, if somebody's listening to this
and they're into it, they want to go to the
next level, They want to make contact, they want to
know that something's real. What's something that people can do
tangibly to maybe have proof, What can they do to
have their own encounter?
Speaker 6: Well, you know, basically we have all the information at
the website if they want to do the research they
can go to eseti dot org or e seti Stargate
on the YouTube channel and see that. But mainly, just
get out in nature and meditate and focus with your
intent on connecting with the benevolent ones, the more spiritually
and technologically advanced beings. If you put that intent out
there and you meditate on that, eventually you're going to
create that reality. But be specific, you know, like set
set some ground rules, you know, and you can call
on Jesus or Buddha or Mary or Kwanye or whoever
you want, you know, to watch over, you know, get
your watch angel there if you need to to make
sure that you are working with the benevolents.
Speaker 5: There was a time where, and I know it stuck
out to me because when I was just coming into meditation,
you talked about going into deep meditation and communicating with beings.
And then I think it was your sister came home
and there was a ship hovering above the house. Yeah,
making contact with you.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I thought I was talking to like angelic beans
and things, and they said, actually we're on a ship.
And I go, okay, I've lost it, you know, and
I'm going to go out and dig and plant some
trees or something, and I didn't get to front door.
My sister and her friends came up banging on the
door and they said, you see it, And I said,
see what? And there's a big light ship hovering right over.
Speaker 2: The over the ranch.
Speaker 6: So a lot of people think they're being contacted by
angels and things, and it could be like a fifth
dimensional Palladian or a sixth dimensional rank Council of Light
being or the Andromedains, which are mythologically known as archangels.
They have magnetized light bodies and they're eight to ten
foot tall beings. So it's a big universe out there,
you know. And it's just not heaven and Hell and
God in the devil. It's much bigger than we can imagine.
Speaker 5: Yep, yep, James. I appreciate you hanging out with my brother.
We got to do it again soon, man, Thanks for
coming a right.
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me on the show. And you know,
be kind.
Speaker 6: One thing I can say is creat heaven on Earth
and stay within universal law and be kind each other.
Speaker 2: That's all. That's all we need to do to turn
this planet around.
Speaker 5: So you heard the man. Check out his website. He
SETI dot org sands for Enlightened Contact with Extraterrestrial Intelligence.
Make sure you guys go check out the work, the videos,
all of this stuff, tons of videos. I'm telling you,
this is what got me. This is this is why
I'm doing this podcast. This man right here, dude, you
mean the world to me. You really do. I appreciate
your work.
Speaker 2: I really do.
Speaker 5: Man, from the bottom of my heart. Thank you, bro.
Speaker 6: Oh, thank you too for bringing this information out. It's
so important right now.
Speaker 5: Ah R James, good night, brother, all right, good night, Salamson. Peace.
There it is, ladies and gentlemen. James Gillilan, he said,
he ranch, and I mean it. It's not just some
type of flattery like I'm doing what I'm doing because
of that guy. Blame him. Don't blame me, right man,
When I was having my experiences years ago. It's just
back in twenty eleven twenty twelve, found his work, you know,
looking up UFOs and looking up things like that. And
there was one video. It was a video by a
guy named Prophet Yahweh. I don't know if that rings
any bell. I'm trying to get him on the show.
Prophet yeahweh. But he went out there and summoned the
UFO for the news station. News stations went out there.
This older black guy goes out there and puts his
hands up in the air and he says he's able
to summon UFOs on command by using the Hebrew version
of the Bible. So and I'm having these weird studies
in the Bible about UFOs and about angels and having
encounters and piquing my interest in it. And I found
that video and this guy's you know, the news crew
captures it. There's this orb that comes in to focus
and they film it and it blows everybody away at
the news station. They's like, oh, wow, this has worked.
Whatever he's doing something work. There's no they checked the
flight schedules. There was not supposed to be anything in
the air at that time. And that video blew me away.
Prophet yahweh, And that just took me a little bit
deeper and deeper in my studying. And then guess what,
reading the scriptures and studying and study and studying, I
went out and I tried to summon UFOs. I went
out there and I read the Hebrew version of the Bible,
and I studied the scriptures and started making contact, and
I started having crazy encounters like this dude I seen
on the internet profit, yeahweh was that dude to shill
was that I don't know, I have no idea, but
I know that after watching that, it built my faith
to go out there and do that. Then I was
led to the work of Patrick Cook Rest in Peace,
who man bibleufo dot com, the biggest online database of
UFO paranormal and spiritual experiences in the Bible. He hit
that website, bibleufo dot com. It doesn't exist anymore. You
can find it on the back whatheb or whatever, like
the pages that were archived, and I've tried to put
some of it on my site because his wife deleted
everything once he passed, which was just a couple of
years back. But his work and he's just showing you
all of these scriptures about spirits in the Bible, different
spiritual interactions that you never heard about, of different profits
encountering spirits that you wouldn't have known unless it was
given to you in this context, like this is what
this is, and you're able to read it, You're like,
oh my god, this is insane. Bibleufo dot com was
amazing and so all of that stuff was foundational for
me and didn't having those experiences. Who am I supposed
to talk to about it? My pastor you know, my friends.
I tried to freak them all out. So I put
it in my music, reached out to the fan base,
started my own podcast. I made sure that, like when
I went to Bible studies and I went to church,
that I wasn't talking about this stuff with people, because
I knew that it would freak people out. So I
come home, I get on the internet and to do
a podcast, and I interview people, and I get people
on my show who were doing this stuff. And I
talked to James Gillilan, and I remember reaching out to
him and his staff, and I got in touch with
Nate at the time, who was one of his assistants,
and when I needed somebody to talk to, those guys
were there, like just make sure I wasn't losing my mind,
just to make sure that I wasn't going crazy, that
these weren't demons who were contacting me from another dimension
to deceive me or something like that, And it helped
me make sense of everything. James Gillil and his humility
that he brings to the table. It's like no other.
And he's been blacklisted, he's been looked over, he's been
all of that stuff by some of the bigger stations
and stuff. He's been scheduled to be on coach to
coach am and he's on the phone waiting and they
never put him on for like hours, you know, like
he's been there. So we talked about that stuff man,
and I really appreciate his work, so what you know.
And I haven't talked to him since twenty twelve, since
I started having my awakening and kind of going to
those next levels. So it was such a blessing to
have him on. Like I said, I'm just going to
touch on some of the things that we have coming up.
Like I said, I want to do one night a week,
We're going to do online School of the Spirit, School
of the Mystics, where we just get into it where
people need prayer, People are going through a lot of
stuff that they can't explain, they need somebody to talk to.
I make myself available, but it's going to be on
an even deeper, more intimate level with people's There's so
many of you guys that I see the potential in.
But I hear your stories, and I hear what you're
going through, and I know what comes next. We have
to be able to formulate a game plan for you.
We have to create a safe environment for you to
try to test out your spiritual abilities in your gift
of prophecy, your gift of healing, your gift of dreams
and visions and intuition and empathy. We have to create
a safe environment for that. That's what I'm doing Thursday nights,
the School of the Spirit. It's going to be available
for people supporting on Patreon and I don't know if
we're going to do it through Discord or Zoom Video
Chatter what, but we're gonna make it available. I'm talking
to Adam Starc He's going to be helping me with
it as well.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 5: You already know Christy Lee in her show. She's going
to be promoting it and she's going to be in
with it. Dano Leo, I've been talking to Leo about it.
Leo called in from wood Haven there earlier. I'm pretty
sure you calling Leo. There's Nicole there in the chat room.
All of these people are going to be a part
of it. Nicole and Chris and it's going to be good.
We have to create a safe environment that that's where
That's where I came from. I came from a place
of it was okay to try, and it was okay
to fail. It was okay to mess up. And we
would we would try to prophesy, we would try to
pick up energies and in moving the spirit of dis
sermon on one another and and it was okay to
mess up. There was grace there and we learned, and
I learned how to use it. Then then guess what
in those safe places, I've been able to go out
into the public and do it. And what we were
doing in our home meetings, I was able to go
out and do in Walmart, I was able to go
into the doctor's office and do and have a confidence
and a faith that allowed me to go out and
do that. So we're gonna do it online School of
the Spirit. I'm excited about it, And uh, it's just
trying to formulate it because I have all these people
support and I get all these messages and I'm able
to see like the next level for a lot of people.
But I just have to be able to go into
a way of like have you have this confidence in you,
like I can be confident in you, but for you
to be confident in yourself and kind of take it
to the next level. We're going to do it online
school a lit the Spirit. I'm gonna do it on
Thursday nights. We're going to do this and Carolyn and
Nicole and Matt are all commenting. Matt says, when's it
going to start. It's going to start very soon the
next few weeks. You'll definitely be notified. Carolyn says, I
always wonder about the powerful kind being felt. That's my home.
At a particular time, it was two benevolent male energy
beings heard Uh you too, Carolyn, because you you there's
I've been hearing you speak about energies and being uh
empathic and intuitive, and there's a place for you. So
we want to create a place where because you guys
are needed, every single one of you guys who are listening,
you are needed. There is a place for you. You're
not forgotten, You're not and you're not alone. Right Maybe
that's what that's Maybe that's why this podcast are doing
so well right now. It's just a place where you
just know that, hey, I'm not alone, I'm not the
only crazy person here. Truth seekerts with me. There's a
there's lots of people listening to this show on the
back end, on the iTunes and podcasting. There's so many
people listening, so many people reaching out. We have to
formulate something. All I'm doing is trying. I'm trying to
get the vision. I'm trying to make it happen. And
I thank you guys for being patient with me. I
thank you guys for supporting me to do that, to
to be affiliated with what we're doing. A dollar a week,
A dollar a week, you know what I'm saying. I
think anybody can do that, just to help us pay
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you care about it. Head on over to patreon dot
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busy trying to get all this info out there, and
the gears are turning. There's so much to get out.
I'm still working on the stuff I promised. I'm still
working on the teachings that you guys are waiting on
the whole Jezebel thing. I haven't forgotten about it. I'm
almost done with it. I have so much going on
we're going to talk about We're going to address that too.
Being go minded with a thousand visions, We're going to
address that miss many of you, guys. That's why you're
putting your hand to the plow in one thing and
you're good at it, and then there's this other thing,
and then there's this other thing. I'm good at. Oh,
but I love this, and you got your hands in
seventeen different things, and you're a jack of all trades.
Would essentially become a master of none. So we're going
to talk about focusing in on what works, keeping the faith,
staying on the path and moving in the spirit of consistency, authenticity,
and excellence. That's what's working, guys. It's working totally. Is
that's what we're doing. Twenty eighteen. I don't know if
it came across as well, but he was talking about
twenty eighteen was essentially according to the old calendar, twenty
twelve that we're just now coming into the new energies.
I don't I can't vouch for that. I've done the
research in the past, and there's many people who believe that.
I will say this. There's a lot of people who
are waking up right now. There's a lot of people
who are having these encounters. There's a lot of people
who have questions. There's a lot of people fed up
with status quo. There's a lot of people who know
that they were put here to do great things and
they have no idea how to get started. This is
what we're doing, the School of the Spirit Man True
Sika dot Com. There's gonna be access links there as
well as just go to the Patreon and and get
plugged in with the community. There. There's so much stuff.
I don't know. If you guys are familiar with Discord,
get familiar with that. That's a chat program that we
can use to communicate and it lets us know who
all' is online and it's really cool. Discord is dope
and it's syncd up with Patreon.
Speaker 4: I like that.
Speaker 5: I know Brett Stacy, he's listening. We've been chatting on
their building and discipleship and just encouraging one another. I'm
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We're gonna keep doing it. Had that Jordan Maxwell interview,
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I'm gonna be interviewed by That movie scared the mess
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I'm going to be interviewed by Whitley Streeber. I'm excited
about that.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 5: That's that's a dream come true, really, right, who would
think about that as being like a seven eight year
old kid, nine year old kid watching that movie, and
then you're gonna be interviewed by that guy when you
grow up like the person that I don't know. Synchronicity
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