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Speaker 1: So on today's episode of The Sooner or Later Sports Show,
Speaker 1: you know, Jane, Coop's gonna do what we always do
Speaker 1: for you all. We're gonna talk practice. Plus we've gotta
Speaker 1: dive into this situation around the transfer portal and then
Speaker 1: we'll talk about you know, SEC stuff and all of
Speaker 1: that good jazz. So Coop, Happy Sunday man, how you doing?
Speaker 2: Hey, happy Sunday doing good. Excited to be back.
Speaker 3: It's it feels like it's been a little while, because
Speaker 3: it really has. It's been it's been a few minutes.
Speaker 2: Uh was it the last I think we did the
Speaker 2: interview with Adobe, and I think that was the last thing.
Speaker 1: That we Yeah, I say the Adobe conversation was the
Speaker 1: last time we actually came on here and talked the
Speaker 1: little ball, so I said, we got to bring this back. Well,
Speaker 1: we'll get more consistent now that we've got the Crimson
Speaker 1: Combine coming up this weekend and we have that which
Speaker 1: I will wrap up spring ball and then we can
Speaker 1: start really comparing us with the competition of the summer
Speaker 1: and going spring. Spring window is actually the big thing
Speaker 1: that's gonna probably be the big conversation because I think
Speaker 1: the spring window is in the next two weeks. Yes,
Speaker 1: let me see, spring window.
Speaker 3: Closes on twenty fifth, Okay, so it's the fifteenth.
Speaker 1: Some of the gun it's in a week.
Speaker 2: Sixteen, so it opens on the sixteenth, so that'd be
Speaker 2: ten days from today. And this is a fun one
Speaker 2: because you get through everybody's spring now you start to
Speaker 2: see the thumb prints, fingerprints from the gms. You got
Speaker 2: to see you know, what are we paying you versus
Speaker 2: what are we getting?
Speaker 3: And do these.
Speaker 2: Do these guys deserve the money that they are being
Speaker 2: promised right now And we'll talk a little bit about that,
Speaker 2: but yeah, this is this is the last transferportal window
Speaker 2: before everybody reshuffles once more and the revenue share starts hitting,
Speaker 2: and so it's going to be untraveled grounds from this
Speaker 2: point going forward.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because Monday is when the settlement is supposed to
Speaker 1: happen full for the for the NCAA in the house.
Speaker 1: That's actually I think that that's when the judges are
Speaker 1: supposed to come up with something I quote unquote finalized.
Speaker 1: So I'm expecting that to be uh yeah, we'll have
Speaker 1: something to really talk about that point. But uh no,
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Speaker 1: give us five first and foremost coup. Let's talk about
Speaker 1: this dob Bond Mitchell transfer Port. Yeah, he has entered officially.
Speaker 1: That was Friday. I put a little video blurb on
Speaker 1: it talked about a player that I think the Sooner
Speaker 1: should go after, what we probably won't because we didn't
Speaker 1: offer him in the beginning, so he was a three
Speaker 1: star prospect. I doubt we have that type of interest.
Speaker 1: We're probably looking.
Speaker 3: More and more for.
Speaker 1: Someone that can actually play.
Speaker 3: Like.
Speaker 1: Contribute day one. Yeah, we're looking for someone to contribute
Speaker 1: day one. Now. Granted, I still think it's hilarious that
Speaker 1: oh you dropped this propaganda on us. Let me find
Speaker 1: this real quick, because I think that this was I
Speaker 1: found it hilarious. I don't know if anybody else would
Speaker 1: find it hilarious, but I found it hilarious because it
Speaker 1: was one of those like, oh, you're really doing this,
Speaker 1: give me a second. I'm gonna put it up here
Speaker 1: because I know you know what I'm talking about, Coop.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know while you're pulling that up, I
Speaker 2: I mean, I really think that.
Speaker 3: You know, like you said, it's August. It's when we
Speaker 3: need to see something happen.
Speaker 1: You're in a you're in a swimming pool.
Speaker 3: Now, I love that. Love that. Yeah, you got it.
Speaker 3: You do that, and you're gonna have somebody who's gonna
Speaker 3: come in August thirtieth and it's gonna be ready to contribute.
Speaker 2: It is from they're gonna go after there. You know,
Speaker 2: it's not like wide receivers where you've got so many
Speaker 2: across the transfer porter the drier.
Speaker 4: Provisional should just mute it.
Speaker 1: Okay, there's probably sound playing for everybody else, But anyway,
Speaker 1: the this play felt like it was on purpose that
Speaker 1: they put this out there.
Speaker 3: This It did you know this?
Speaker 2: It kind of reminds me a little bit of the
Speaker 2: Peyton Bowen one handed interception last year. You know, up
Speaker 2: over the tight end.
Speaker 3: You know, this is hey.
Speaker 2: You know we've seen all the uh, all the offensive
Speaker 2: output and all the videos that they're putting out for
Speaker 2: the offense showing that it's capable, and then comes in
Speaker 2: and one hand intercepts the ball and you're like, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: well there's that and so, but no, this is it
Speaker 2: because I mean, you know, you heard Gabe and Teddy,
Speaker 2: if you've listened to the Oklahoma breakdown, you know, they
Speaker 2: kind of set expectations for Huggins this year. I would
Speaker 2: say that he is a healthier version of Austin Stagner,
Speaker 2: probably a little bit bigger, can move around a little
Speaker 2: bit more, doesn't have that injury situation that Stagner had
Speaker 2: with the staff infection. But I mean that's pretty much
Speaker 2: what they told us to expect out of Huggins. And
Speaker 2: so then you see this drop where dudes just trucking
Speaker 2: guys getting in and there entire team is all excited
Speaker 2: about that, and so Will Huggins right now and Jaron
Speaker 2: Kannick are the two that you're hearing.
Speaker 3: About the most.
Speaker 2: Still haven't heard ton about Helms and we hadn't heard
Speaker 2: anything about Bond until this weekends.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was the one thing I kind of
Speaker 1: mentioned before that the concern for me was that, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is Will Huggins for who would ask John Ross
Speaker 1: would ask as Will Huggins. But that was the one
Speaker 1: thing I mentioned when I was starting to do some
Speaker 1: room reviews. That was my concern. I hadn't heard anything
Speaker 1: about Vaughn. Like we knew that he had taking an
Speaker 1: initiative to try to be better, I guess, do better potentially,
Speaker 1: and then you don't hear anything about him that tells you.
Speaker 1: That tells you enough there besides the fact that we
Speaker 1: saw that he was what two seventy five on the
Speaker 1: depth chart, it's a little big, so hopefully it meant that,
Speaker 1: you know, he was putting on some muscle. But no, no,
Speaker 1: that was a really good pass. That was That was
Speaker 1: an excellent pass by Michael Hawkins. And it looks like,
Speaker 1: you know, he's out there feeling good, body feeling great.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, the only thing trending up for
Speaker 2: Vaughn was the way and it sounds like it sounds
Speaker 2: like the coaching staff if you have not. You know,
Speaker 2: read some of the stuff that's come out, it sounds
Speaker 2: like the coaching staff went above and beyond significantly to
Speaker 2: try to really help him out. I mean as much
Speaker 2: as like him moving in with you know, coaching staff
Speaker 2: members to keep him kind of on the on the upswing.
Speaker 3: But even that didn't work.
Speaker 2: And you know, again this is uh, you know, content
Speaker 2: people can get in a lot of trouble talking about
Speaker 2: rumors around tight end folks. But I would just say
Speaker 2: this is I mean, it sounds like the guy had
Speaker 2: you know, the maturity issue was tied around drinking and
Speaker 2: just showing up.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: You know, there was multiple occasions where the guy was
Speaker 2: late for late for things, days where he just was
Speaker 2: M I A. And uh, you know, it's not like
Speaker 2: when I was at OU and if the coaching staff
Speaker 2: sent out a message to everybody. I mean you know
Speaker 2: you could say, you know, I didn't get that message.
Speaker 2: Now you've got the cell phones. Now everybody's going to
Speaker 2: get that stuff. And so you know, for you to
Speaker 2: go M I A in this day and age, that's
Speaker 2: not good.
Speaker 3: It's a bad ye. It's you know, let's go ahead
Speaker 3: and get into this Jay.
Speaker 2: Because we've talked about watching names that we don't want
Speaker 2: to see leave in the transfer portal, you know, for
Speaker 2: almost two years now, and now it's going to be
Speaker 2: a situation to where Naggy and staff is going to
Speaker 2: be staring at these guys and again, is the juice
Speaker 2: worth the squeeze? Do the funds and the assets that
Speaker 2: they have tied up in these guys, are they being
Speaker 2: reciprocated in the production. We've all been frustrated in the
Speaker 2: past where you hear of somebody getting a you know,
Speaker 2: pretty clean nil deal and then coming in and not
Speaker 2: not doing anything. And and you know, we had a
Speaker 2: I will not drop names, but we had a tight
Speaker 2: an offensive tackle last year who we went after came
Speaker 2: from another P four program and the dude was not good.
Speaker 2: And so I heard multiple people, you know, ask me,
Speaker 2: you know, can you pull his money if he's not
Speaker 2: doing well? There's consequences and there's situations with that. And
Speaker 2: so now this is how you do that. This is
Speaker 2: you bringing in somebody and going, hey, you know, college
Speaker 2: football doesn't have to operate like the Cleveland Browns with
Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson to where you're just stuck in the money.
Speaker 2: You can you can make some moves, and so that's
Speaker 2: what happened, is you know, they they afforded dvon Mitchell
Speaker 2: well more than enough time. So if you've read it
Speaker 2: and you're just upset and you don't like the situation
Speaker 2: and you're wondering why we're getting ready, we're getting rid
Speaker 2: of a five star tied end, well, you know, the
Speaker 2: best ability is availability, and if you can't even show
Speaker 2: up to practice, then you don't have a spot on
Speaker 2: the team.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The most important thing you can be, the best
Speaker 1: thing you can possibly do for this team to show up,
Speaker 1: be there for practice, work, your tell off, all of
Speaker 1: that stuff. And that was the unfortunate thing in that
Speaker 1: whole situation was is that the rumor was there was
Speaker 1: no work there. And I hope the best for the kid.
Speaker 1: I hope he figures it out. Yeah, that's the most
Speaker 1: important thing for him is figuring out getting everything together,
Speaker 1: getting his life together, making sure he's not putting himself
Speaker 1: in more bad situations, you know down the line, you
Speaker 1: don't you never want, you know, of course, the worst
Speaker 1: for a kid. So we just hope he figures it out.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be critical. But as of right now, though
Speaker 1: you're seeing there's a lot of fun going on on
Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball. Jeoh, Materier appears to
Speaker 1: be that dude. Everything that you're hearing about, like hear
Speaker 1: from the micd up, it's just watching him go, watching
Speaker 1: him work, watching him talk to the team, watching him
Speaker 1: wind up. Everything about him appears that it's legit. It
Speaker 1: he's he's showing that he is everything that he was
Speaker 1: advertised to be. And as you mentioned about the portal, Stevie,
Speaker 1: don't worry about it. There's nothing we got to be
Speaker 1: concerned about. When it comes to, you know, Materr himself,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be everything around him. Like Naggy came in
Speaker 1: initially to evaluate, he started appears that he started to
Speaker 1: evaluate the players first, once on the roster first. Now
Speaker 1: he's going to start working on recruits and you're starting
Speaker 1: to see and hear that as you know, some recruits
Speaker 1: that we offered initially, you know they probably came to
Speaker 1: consensus and said we probably should back off. It's kind
Speaker 1: of intriguing to see that. But do not be surprised,
Speaker 1: uh frightening. Brennan is not at Oklahoma. You can go
Speaker 1: look him up at Mississippi State. He is hanging out
Speaker 1: with Jeff Levy. But all we know is that they're
Speaker 1: watching every single position and they're evaluating everybody to determine
Speaker 1: if we need to add more pieces, which I actually
Speaker 1: expect some changes in a lot of spots. I expect
Speaker 1: some changes at I actually expect us to add another
Speaker 1: running back. I expect us to add a wide receiver. Yes,
Speaker 1: I expect another a linement, a center, someone interior which
Speaker 1: I'm speaking of. Which have you heard anything on that
Speaker 1: on that went quiet on Micoola?
Speaker 3: I mean the.
Speaker 2: Technically, you can't really do anything yet, right, you know,
Speaker 2: it's the portal is coming open. So I think a
Speaker 2: lot of people who are in it, they're they're they
Speaker 2: have to already be in it, So there's there's work
Speaker 2: going on, I would.
Speaker 1: Say, technically not with him. Remember his coach got fired. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why he's in the portal. So you get the
Speaker 1: extra time, yeah yeah, So technically, well, yeah, you get
Speaker 1: the five days to enter the portal from the day
Speaker 1: that your coach is fired, and then you can actually
Speaker 1: go ahead and jump in. So so that's the case.
Speaker 1: I ain't heard anything even about his his u c
Speaker 1: l A visiting go search it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can go search that up. But but yeah,
Speaker 3: you're going to hit up the the portal of situation.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: I think that you're you're looking for, you know, anybody
Speaker 2: from that uh you know, inside linebacker. You know, if
Speaker 2: you can find the right guy, that's one you want
Speaker 2: to go after. A defensive back. You want somebody who's
Speaker 2: going to be able to uh have some planning time,
Speaker 2: you know, down to them. It's not talent is not
Speaker 2: what we're lacking. It's kind of playing time and experience.
Speaker 3: Center.
Speaker 2: You know, I think holling Beck is going to be
Speaker 2: a beast, but he is a few months out of school.
Speaker 2: Even Creed wasn't Creed year one. So so you're looking
Speaker 2: to maybe get somebody else to maybe you know, one
Speaker 2: year of eligibility, maybe somebody who can be a backup.
Speaker 2: Because last thing you want is what we dealt with
Speaker 2: last year, is you're you're switching guys positions all over
Speaker 2: the place the entire year. That's what you want to
Speaker 2: avoid this year. You know, you're not gonna not going
Speaker 2: to see the same thing again and feel good about life.
Speaker 2: So I think that you're going to want to get
Speaker 2: some kind of a center defensive back tied end, and
Speaker 2: you know that's those.
Speaker 3: Are some of the spots.
Speaker 2: Now, I fully have to think that this is a
Speaker 2: little bit more of a well oiled, uh, you know
Speaker 2: machine at this point. You know, a lot of people
Speaker 2: who are in the portal or who are leaning that
Speaker 2: way probably have communicated through their agents, handlers, et cetera.
Speaker 2: So there's gonna be a lot in the next two weeks.
Speaker 2: There's gonna be a lot of rumors starting to swirl,
Speaker 2: and you're gonna get into the battles where it's you know,
Speaker 2: it's it's us going up against LSU in Texas and
Speaker 2: A and M versus this this guy, or us going
Speaker 2: against Ohio State and you know, Penn State versus another guy.
Speaker 2: So you're going to see a lot of that because
Speaker 2: people who are going to be out there, you know,
Speaker 2: are going to be kind of the this is the
Speaker 2: last this is the last hurrah before the before the
Speaker 2: rev share stuff hits. So I think that a lot
Speaker 2: of people are going to, uh, you know, kind of
Speaker 2: act desperately. So but that's why you have a guy
Speaker 2: like Naggie in tow so that he can look at
Speaker 2: it and make an informed and data driven decision.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. I'm looking now hmm. Okay, so he
Speaker 1: did make his visit to UCLA. Looking on his Instagram,
Speaker 1: he does have a picture there, but he doesn't have
Speaker 1: it anywhere else, which is interesting. He posted about an
Speaker 1: hour ago that he had a great time at UCLA.
Speaker 1: But I also haven't seen him posting anything about UCLA
Speaker 1: like he's posting about Oh like he's reposted about Oklahoma,
Speaker 1: like he's reposted some Oklahoma posts. He followed me like,
Speaker 1: dang there instantly when I followed him, he followed me
Speaker 1: right back. So we're now, yeah, we're in the waiting game.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: So you remember last year, Jane, we played the waiting
Speaker 2: game first and foremost for guys like Branson, Hickman, A
Speaker 2: dom Dom Williams was a was A was a big one.
Speaker 3: You know, he was a spring game participant, not participant,
Speaker 3: but attendee.
Speaker 2: You know, he was there and that's where famously his
Speaker 2: mom said, you know, if you don't go to school here,
Speaker 2: I'm moving here regardless.
Speaker 1: This is my Holly, I don't care.
Speaker 3: Now they didn't. Now they do live there.
Speaker 2: So you know, there there's some there's some there's some
Speaker 2: stuff happening, and you know when you don't have the
Speaker 2: spring game. I'm a little curious about how this is
Speaker 2: going to be tracked by all of us crazy people,
Speaker 2: because when you don't have the spring game to talk
Speaker 2: about at all, like you know, there's going to be
Speaker 2: uh something needs to feel that and so we've got
Speaker 2: lots of I mean, there's a lot of good stuff.
Speaker 2: And you know, here's what I think, Jay is, we
Speaker 2: don't need somewhere outsider, really tied in. It's not hitting
Speaker 2: the transfer portal for anything outside of depth. You know,
Speaker 2: you you need depth and that's pretty much it. And
Speaker 2: I think that's why a lot of these coaching staffs
Speaker 2: wanted to get rid of the spring game, you know,
Speaker 2: the unnecessary need uh to put on a big production
Speaker 2: where you can get somebody hurt. But also you don't
Speaker 2: you don't want folks poaching your uh, poasting your backups.
Speaker 1: So because teams are definitely wanting to if they can
Speaker 1: they can get their hands on it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, fair point.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, so we'll find out about Jake probably.
Speaker 1: I think we'll fly find about Jake this weekend, actually
Speaker 1: probably next weekend. Price let's put this way. I'm keeping
Speaker 1: my ears to the ground to see if he comes
Speaker 1: back for the Crimson combine.
Speaker 3: If he shows up, that that's indicative.
Speaker 1: I think that. I think that's a done deal. I
Speaker 1: think it's done. So uh, let's talk spring practice. Though.
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Speaker 1: But anyway, let's talk practice. Let's talk a little bit
Speaker 1: first defense, then go to offense. Because I love this
Speaker 1: question from my boy Ace. He asked a good question.
Speaker 1: Who do we think starts at Cheetah? If y'all got questions,
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Speaker 1: is a trash can. But anyway, Coop Cheetah. I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and be straight.
Speaker 3: Up to Shaun White. That's who starts at Cheetah.
Speaker 1: Get out, Oh behind you go, you gotta go. No.
Speaker 1: I personally think it's powers makes the most sense. I
Speaker 1: think he's shown enough growth. I mean, I've heard he's
Speaker 1: been working with the ones. I believe it'll be him,
Speaker 1: And honestly, I think as Dobe gets more healthy, we
Speaker 1: see him play more corner, then corner and nickel rather
Speaker 1: than like I think I can imagine seeing him out
Speaker 1: there with Gentry, or seeing him out there with Eli
Speaker 1: right as your third corner who possibly starts often, especially
Speaker 1: with his size and ability, and then you move him
Speaker 1: into nickel whenever you're going on a passing down. But
Speaker 1: I think I think RP three leads the way at Cheetah.
Speaker 1: And based upon what some of the reports where I
Speaker 1: saw on the socials was you saw Kendall Daniels playing
Speaker 1: more inside. So you had imagine Kendall with Samuel Meseigo
Speaker 1: as your mic oh as a perfect rowth, as a
Speaker 1: perfect like rotation with Kip and Kobe, or even Kendall
Speaker 1: rocking it with like either Kobe or Kip, but I
Speaker 1: know almost Cigo's fighting his way on there. So to me,
Speaker 1: I can understand the Kendall Daniels thoughts at playing Cheetah.
Speaker 1: I don't. I think I see him more. I think
Speaker 1: I see him being moved around between interior linebacker and safety.
Speaker 1: I think Cheetah's probably gonna get locked up by Powers.
Speaker 2: What you're thinking, Yeah, I mean listen, they they were
Speaker 2: working some of these young guys between Boganowskin Powers down
Speaker 2: there last year, and so just you know, with that
Speaker 2: safety room, it was pretty you know, it looks really
Speaker 2: good for the future. I think that we all everybody's
Speaker 2: excited about Boganowski and Powers. But if you talk to
Speaker 2: Reggie or if you talk to any of the guys
Speaker 2: on the team, or even Mike, they'll say, don't don't
Speaker 2: don't forget it out Hardy, because Hardy's in there too,
Speaker 2: and Hardy's been running, you know, running at the front
Speaker 2: of the front of the group too. So a lot
Speaker 2: of stuff kind of ties into health. You know, you're
Speaker 2: going to have Brent Vinnables wants pieces and chess pieces.
Speaker 2: He can go do, you can do you know, some
Speaker 2: really really good things, and you want to be able
Speaker 2: to shuffle in and out guys. You know, we saw
Speaker 2: it last year where Danny Stutsman was off the field
Speaker 2: on some of the bigger, bigger plays, you know, early
Speaker 2: in the season at Auburn, very very big playing the game.
Speaker 2: Stutsman's on the sideline and you've got Kobe and Kip
Speaker 2: in there, and I mean a lot of people who
Speaker 2: are bald Knower's were like, what is going on? Why
Speaker 2: is not in there? Well, these guys are, they're starting
Speaker 2: to do it. They're they're they're they're they're earning their
Speaker 2: their spots. And so I think that you're probably going
Speaker 2: to see a mixture of Dolbian powers right there. Uh
Speaker 2: Oma sego Is was recruited as a linebacker and yeah,
Speaker 2: and so I mean expect this. Hardy is going to
Speaker 2: get a lot And I would not sleep on Hardy,
Speaker 2: you know, rotating in with R. S J And Peyton
Speaker 2: Bowen throughout the season.
Speaker 3: That's gonna be. That's gonna be something because you can say.
Speaker 1: Something on that. Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if it's R.
Speaker 1: S J and Hardy starting.
Speaker 2: Yep, just saying and so if there's listen, if you
Speaker 2: were a five par if you're a five star, they
Speaker 2: want you on the field, and if you earn the
Speaker 2: playing time, they want you on the field. Now, if
Speaker 2: dudes are and I gotta apologize for the kidos screaming
Speaker 2: right outside the door, So that's always great.
Speaker 3: So, uh, this family moment's brought to you by PEPSI.
Speaker 2: But it's okay, yeah, yeah, but no, it's you're gonna
Speaker 2: see a lot of guys. You're gonna see a lot
Speaker 2: of guys in that safety area. You're going to see
Speaker 2: a lot of these young guys in there. And with
Speaker 2: what you're hearing as the potential strength of this team
Speaker 2: is the defensive line. That's good because what you need
Speaker 2: out of your defensive backs, you don't need extended coverage
Speaker 2: times at that point. You need them to do a
Speaker 2: good job and to you know, if it if it
Speaker 2: gets into breaking the pocket, you know, to the the
Speaker 2: oh crep route, that's really what you need to do.
Speaker 2: And so yeah, I'm one hundred percent sure. I love
Speaker 2: the I love the the group of safeties and defensive
Speaker 2: backs you've got. But yeah, you've got a lot of
Speaker 2: talent out there and they're gonna need to be on
Speaker 2: the field. So if you look in the future and
Speaker 2: you see defensive backs as Gentry all right, sorry Gentry Dolby,
Speaker 2: and you know, Eli Bowen, and your safety is as
Speaker 2: Hardy RSJ. You're cheetah as powers like, that's not anything
Speaker 2: you should be scared or worried about or concerned about.
Speaker 2: That's that's a pretty dope backfield right there. And and
Speaker 2: so yeah, Gentry' shoulder, you know, I saw the question.
Speaker 1: Yeah, got just sick, but you go ahead.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got that thing cleaned up. Fun fact is
Speaker 2: if you have something torn in your shoulder and you
Speaker 2: fix something else, you don't get better. And so they
Speaker 2: got the right surgery and they got him cleaned up.
Speaker 2: So he's running right now during the spring. If anybody
Speaker 2: has any concerns, they're not going to push him really hard.
Speaker 1: I mean, is that really true though, that you know,
Speaker 1: if they don't, if they fix something else when you
Speaker 1: have a shoulder problem, that it doesn't lead to you
Speaker 1: actually healing just magically in the background. I was just curious.
Speaker 1: I just want to make sure I wasn't crazy, not
Speaker 1: saying any you know, anything out of the line, but no, seriously,
Speaker 1: that's that's the fun that's the funny thing. Is that
Speaker 1: you cannot expect anybody to be healthy if they aren't
Speaker 1: if you don't fix what's going on the actual problem.
Speaker 1: And that's the good thing. We the expectation here is
Speaker 1: that gentry gentries put its way gentries and paths. He's
Speaker 1: fully decked out. He may not be hitting people, but
Speaker 1: he's fully decked out, yeah, which is what matters the most.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's that's what's most important, is that he's
Speaker 1: fully decked out. He's actually practicing. He's going through drills
Speaker 1: and stuff. So I can expect them to not probably
Speaker 1: have him do any like tackling of people until the fall,
Speaker 1: but I can totally see him doing one on win drills.
Speaker 1: I can definitely I could see him doing some stuff
Speaker 1: during the Crimson combine because they're gonna want him to
Speaker 1: just be out there moving. But dB, we're gonna probably
Speaker 1: need one more vet just in case, because of course
Speaker 1: you're still waiting on Gentry. Eli's got the injured ankle,
Speaker 1: and then Kendall Dobey's coming back. Katie's coming back from
Speaker 1: that ankle surgery in which he didn't have the boot
Speaker 1: on and he said he's training. It's going through his rehabit.
Speaker 1: He's probably back by first game of the season. You
Speaker 1: still want to have an insurance policy there. So we'll
Speaker 1: jump on. I see a question here about the offense.
Speaker 1: I'll jump into that in just a minute. I like
Speaker 1: this from Ace. How'd you feel about that, uh interview
Speaker 1: that BB did with.
Speaker 3: Payt Well, it's a homeboy.
Speaker 2: A lot of people are just showing up in Norman
Speaker 2: and not letting everybody know what's going on. And so, uh, listen,
Speaker 2: we were trying to the on the show with us
Speaker 2: last year and you know, we we really talked about
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff with him kind of in the DMS.
Speaker 2: And you know, I think that he sees something in
Speaker 2: this team, and I think that he is going to
Speaker 2: pay attention to Oklahoma early in the season, and uh,
Speaker 2: you know, if if this team gets off to a
Speaker 2: good start, watch him because you know, I Pate does
Speaker 2: show a lot of affinity, uh, you know, for this
Speaker 2: team when they're doing well, and you know, a lot
Speaker 2: of people want to see John Matier, you know, a
Speaker 2: low recruited guy, just a guy that just has a
Speaker 2: gravity to him, and a lot of people will love
Speaker 2: to love this team and a lot of people are
Speaker 2: gonna love to hate this team.
Speaker 3: And yeah, so, uh, you know I like to pay interview.
Speaker 2: I was listening to it while I was doing some
Speaker 2: some extra work, so I need to go back and
Speaker 2: listen to it again. But you know it's it's Pate's
Speaker 2: going to go where the stories are, and this this
Speaker 2: team is a story because you saw what happened on
Speaker 2: offense last year and if you had a capable offense,
Speaker 2: you know this team looks completely different. And so, uh,
Speaker 2: what I mean, what were your thoughts about it? Because
Speaker 2: I mean that's the uh you're not if you're Josh Paton,
Speaker 2: You're not showing up to talk to a team that
Speaker 2: you think is going to go six and seven.
Speaker 1: Agreed, And and I know that that was a part
Speaker 1: of the rotation of teams that he wanted to see
Speaker 1: and want. You know, he reaches out and if there
Speaker 1: he's invited in, he comes in and just like you said,
Speaker 1: he's going where the story is. And right now, the
Speaker 1: story truly is can Oklahoma bounce back from what they
Speaker 1: looked like last year? And when you bring in the
Speaker 1: top at the time, the number one transfer portal player
Speaker 1: in and he's a quarterback, you got a good chance
Speaker 1: of flipping around what you did last year, especially because
Speaker 1: the defense for the most part is still intact. You know,
Speaker 1: your main key pieces at defensive line, linebacker outside of
Speaker 1: Dandy Stutsman, and secondary outside of Billy Bowman. Brought everybody back.
Speaker 1: You know you're and and you've added some good pieces
Speaker 1: former five star Marvin Jones Junior. So that's always a
Speaker 1: big plus to add. So I think Brent Nobles in
Speaker 1: that conversation with Peyt and why Peyt came, he told
Speaker 1: him and I thought was intriguing that he focused on
Speaker 1: he wants complimentary football, and he preached the sermon that
Speaker 1: you want to hear from your coach. Now we need
Speaker 1: this coach to execute. You don't win games with your speeches.
Speaker 1: You went over the fan base with your speeches, and
Speaker 1: you buy yourself additional time, but you don't win with
Speaker 1: just that speech. And I think that he gave us that.
Speaker 1: I feel like he gave us a reason to actually
Speaker 1: believe the reports that we're seeing because truth be told.
Speaker 1: Last year when we talked about it, y'all remember him.
Speaker 1: You can go back and pull the receipts all you
Speaker 1: won't remind y'all we told y'all. The one thing that
Speaker 1: we hoped for this was hope that our quarterback will
Speaker 1: be forging fire and he will come back out stronger.
Speaker 1: You know, he will take the pressure as a piece
Speaker 1: of coal and turn to a diamond. We weren't saying
Speaker 1: that Jackson Arnold was guaranteed to be great. We said
Speaker 1: that he's getting his butt kicked and practice, and we
Speaker 1: hope that this turns him into similar to what we
Speaker 1: got out of, say in Bradford, who was getting his
Speaker 1: butt kicked offs on practice. It didn't work. So now
Speaker 1: we got my tear who's actually cooking this defense while
Speaker 1: also getting cooked by the defense. So when you see
Speaker 1: that there's a balance there, bro, I'm about as happy
Speaker 1: as I could possibly be there. That to me jumps
Speaker 1: out the most out of him talking about it and
Speaker 1: then seeing the reports that that's actually actually what's happening
Speaker 1: in practice. Offense Wednesday, defense, Wednesday. Offense wins two days,
Speaker 1: Defense wins two days, and it's going back and forth.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have complimentary football for the first time.
Speaker 4: In a bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I had somebody kind of say something to me that
Speaker 2: I thought was a little nerdy, but I like it
Speaker 2: so I'm gonna share it with you guys. He was
Speaker 2: watching the second Dune Flip and the part where you know,
Speaker 2: the main character says, you know, I lead the way
Speaker 2: and you guys follow me. And I think that the
Speaker 2: the difference between last year is Jacks Arnold was just
Speaker 2: out there, just trying to do what play called.
Speaker 3: Was out there right. He didn't understand the ups, the downs,
Speaker 3: the ins and outs.
Speaker 2: He was just doing what was called. Whereas now you've
Speaker 2: got Matier out here. And Matier knows the offense. He
Speaker 2: lives and breathes the offense. He knows option A, Option B,
Speaker 2: Option C. He knows how to call in and out of,
Speaker 2: you know, in out of plays. So you have a
Speaker 2: Jah Matier who, like I said, it's an underdog story.
Speaker 2: You know, you transfer from Washington Washington State, you follow
Speaker 2: cam Ward, So people are gonna have eyes on him,
Speaker 2: and they're gonna want to they want to see, you know, is.
Speaker 3: This the real deal?
Speaker 2: I I mean, I I really do believe that he
Speaker 2: has control of the offense. Last year, we had no
Speaker 2: identity on offense. We saw that sometimes the defense looked
Speaker 2: like they knew what was coming more than our offensive
Speaker 2: players knew what was coming, and that's that's not good.
Speaker 2: Whereas you know, now you see again competitive football, you
Speaker 2: see complimentary football, and that's what you want to see
Speaker 2: in spring. That's what you want to see in the ball.
Speaker 2: In spring, you're testing out things to see what your
Speaker 2: capabilities are. Can we get away with running? This?
Speaker 3: Is this something that we can do? You know, do
Speaker 3: we have the You know, Ben.
Speaker 2: Arbuckle wants to run a lot of crossers in on offense,
Speaker 2: and so Jay, guess what you need to do need
Speaker 2: to have in order to run a lot of crossers
Speaker 2: on offense, heady wide receivers who can run crossing routest
Speaker 2: guys who are really good at go balls and they're
Speaker 2: not very good across the middle. That's not going to
Speaker 2: help you because you've got to have the capable receivers
Speaker 2: to do it. And so you know there is going
Speaker 2: to be when there's gonna be losses when you're hearing
Speaker 2: the stuff in the spring.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, you know, one of the
Speaker 2: things that I've really really enjoyed and watching the the
Speaker 2: Sooner PR team here this year in the spring has
Speaker 2: been the position battles, the one on ones going at it.
Speaker 2: But when you're seeing these clips, you're seeing a bunch
Speaker 2: of guys who you've never seen before making plays. And
Speaker 2: why is that important? Because that's what everybody's wanting to know.
Speaker 2: Can this guy make a play? Can that guy make
Speaker 2: a play? What is going to happen there? And so man,
Speaker 2: I just this is this is the excitement about the
Speaker 2: spring football is is everybody starts getting.
Speaker 3: Their delusions of grandeur.
Speaker 2: Everybody is you know, playoff playoff bound and national championship bound,
Speaker 2: and every all is good right now unless you catch
Speaker 2: like some some wicked in camp injuries.
Speaker 3: So but yeah, a lot of people are going.
Speaker 1: To you don't run into of course, but yeah, yes, knock.
Speaker 2: On wood, Yeah we're gonna we're to see We're going
Speaker 2: to see this defense is going to continue to be
Speaker 2: a good brand Pinnable's defense. You now are getting to
Speaker 2: see some of the more talented guys who were recorded recruited.
Speaker 3: Into this system.
Speaker 2: You know, these guys are not you know, Danny Stutsman,
Speaker 2: Ethan Downs, Billy bum They were all recruited into a new,
Speaker 2: different system.
Speaker 3: But this is the BV guys.
Speaker 2: These are the guys that this coaching staff has wanted.
Speaker 2: And so this is this is this is good and
Speaker 2: you like seeing the the work during spring break. You
Speaker 2: like seeing the one on one work between a tier
Speaker 2: and the wide receivers. You know, dude was heading to
Speaker 2: Houston and stop down in Dallas to work out with
Speaker 2: Dean Burgs and Johnny Gibson, you know, as they're doing
Speaker 2: some wide receiver training, Like there's nothing else you want
Speaker 2: to hear. There's nothing better because you're not hearing about
Speaker 2: quarterback controversy. You're not talking about is Michael Thompson really
Speaker 2: doing so much better? So is there is there is
Speaker 2: there a closed book on who the starter is? Like,
Speaker 2: you're not hearing that stuff.
Speaker 1: No, you're hearing You're hearing that it's you know, legitimate
Speaker 1: that you got multiple options there, which is something you
Speaker 1: would like to say.
Speaker 4: That you have.
Speaker 1: It's always a plus and the way it sounds, you know,
Speaker 1: my tear is here continuously working his tail off, which
Speaker 1: we all love to see. But defense wise, we're gonna
Speaker 1: be in a great spot because it's Privtables. Statistically, on average,
Speaker 1: typically the Brevitables defense jumps has its next leap around
Speaker 1: this time. This is when Clemson start to see those
Speaker 1: defenses really evolve into something.
Speaker 4: And so.
Speaker 1: That's what we're ready for here and let's talk it.
Speaker 1: There's another question that just popped that popped up, which
Speaker 1: was a good one.
Speaker 4: Jay.
Speaker 1: You've talked about Jackson, Stone and Williams, how it's strong
Speaker 1: doing well. Truth be told, we've heard really good things
Speaker 1: about everybody. When it comes to the defensive line. It
Speaker 1: sounds like we legitimately have a three deep in each spot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it sounds like each spot is very very competitive
Speaker 1: in that capacity. So you've got a you got you know,
Speaker 1: three nose tackles probably with Jaden Jackson, who's out right
Speaker 1: now because the shoulder surgery. He's he's there. You still
Speaker 1: got Stone who's at the size now, I mean, he's
Speaker 1: what probably three twenty at this point. And then you've
Speaker 1: got Marcus Strong, who I've seen reports that he's having
Speaker 1: a really good spring right now as in there, he's
Speaker 1: definitely going to be on the roster's and he's bulked
Speaker 1: his body up well over three hundred edges of course,
Speaker 1: as you can see here Marvin Jones junior years one.
Speaker 1: That's everybody's everybody's satisfied. They are very happy that they
Speaker 1: got him.
Speaker 2: And and in Florida State. You know, we've made we've
Speaker 2: made comment on it before Florida State. A lot of
Speaker 2: the guys that I talked to over there were very upset.
Speaker 2: Not only did see obviously a former five star and
Speaker 2: you know, maybe a leader of the defense leave, but
Speaker 2: they thought that this next year was going to be
Speaker 2: a big year for him because he'd got the maturity
Speaker 2: stuff and nailed down. Now he has expectations coming in
Speaker 2: here and he is really, really really excited to be,
Speaker 2: you know, surrounded by so much good effort and talent
Speaker 2: around him. And that's another thing is you know last year,
Speaker 2: you know, we had times where the defensive end position
Speaker 2: with our Mason Thomas was was super dominant, but we
Speaker 2: never saw anything kind of out of both sides the
Speaker 2: defensive line and if you can, you know, line up
Speaker 2: in Marvin Jones Junior on one side and and R
Speaker 2: Mason Thomas on the other side, and then any combination
Speaker 2: of de tackle you got you got a situation where
Speaker 2: who do you double team? And uh, you know, the
Speaker 2: returns on Marba Jones this year have already been everybody
Speaker 2: is super stoked about that. You know, you even have
Speaker 2: guys and Eric Basham you you you bring this question up.
Speaker 2: Jacob Henry. Jacob Henry is going through his fall practice. Uh,
Speaker 2: Jacob and I have agreed to do an interview as
Speaker 2: soon as he gets through, sorry, the spring practice, because
Speaker 2: he wanted to he wanted to earn something before he
Speaker 2: talked about something, right, So we'll be having him on
Speaker 2: here for too long. But you know, again, he's he's
Speaker 2: playing catchup and he's got a lot of studs out
Speaker 2: in front of him, so he's gonna have you know,
Speaker 2: and he's he's a big wrestler, but he's a small
Speaker 2: defensive tackle because I really he's I still think he's
Speaker 2: in the two eighty range, so I don't think he
Speaker 2: is really stumping up there at the three hundred levels.
Speaker 2: So if you're going to be that small, you got
Speaker 2: to be super quick. So he's learning, and there's a
Speaker 2: lot of learning going on. I don't know if he
Speaker 2: you know, if he lands himself a spot where he's
Speaker 2: sticking on this team right now, it's going to be
Speaker 2: as kind of back into the bench. But with the
Speaker 2: new numbers, you can't just have guys on the team.
Speaker 2: And so I'll wrap this back to Marcus Strong because
Speaker 2: this is probably a year that Marcus Strong needed to
Speaker 2: either have himself a breakout year to stay on the
Speaker 2: team or it was going to be, you know, a
Speaker 2: situation where there was a tough conversation about you know,
Speaker 2: hopping in the portal. And it sounds like Marcus Strong
Speaker 2: has done the work to earn himself a rotation spot
Speaker 2: on the team.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I expect Strong in there. And I
Speaker 1: have to disagree with this here Classic Sports. You think
Speaker 1: that we don't have three deep at both d tackles,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Let's look at it. Your nose is
Speaker 1: going to be what Jade Jackson, David Stone and then
Speaker 1: Marcus Strong. Yeah, Ace Hodges behind him moves you know,
Speaker 1: former powerlift or wrestler, you know, needs to get his
Speaker 1: weight up. He's about to ninety and six is the
Speaker 1: last time of the at the roster. Your other side,
Speaker 1: you know, you've got and Dominic it can also play nose.
Speaker 1: Just keep that in mind as well, because he's over
Speaker 1: three thirteen as well, but he's not He's probably gonna
Speaker 1: play a three three technique. You've got Dominic Williams, You've
Speaker 1: got Grayson Halton, who had a really good year last year.
Speaker 1: By the way Stone can also play the three technique.
Speaker 1: But then you bring in Trent Wilson, who I've already heard.
Speaker 1: He's over three hundred pounds and he plays like in
Speaker 1: SECD even's alignment. Technically, I think we got three ATI's
Speaker 1: spot and a lot of the both of them are
Speaker 1: and a lot of them are interchangeable. Because the base
Speaker 1: upon the reports with Stone is he's still got the
Speaker 1: quickness and stuff at the three, even.
Speaker 4: At that size.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that size, and he's just.
Speaker 1: Added size to his already fast frame and it didn't
Speaker 1: slow him down. So if that's the case, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I think you just got a hands
Speaker 1: of having three deep there.
Speaker 2: I just have to say this classic it's foreign to us.
Speaker 2: Having good players at all four positions has been been been.
Speaker 2: It's been since Benito and Winfrey and all those guys
Speaker 2: were here, and that you could say that way, we
Speaker 2: had four guys across the defensive line that were actually,
Speaker 2: you know, difference makers. And I don't even know if
Speaker 2: you can say like this this group lining up against
Speaker 2: that group, there's some NFL guys in that group. This
Speaker 2: group has has chance of doing bigger things and that
Speaker 2: team was good. That team was really really good with
Speaker 2: Benito Perry and Winfrey, Isaiah Thomas. You know that it
Speaker 2: was a really, really good crew. We just have been
Speaker 2: lacking the the outside pass rusher and the guys up
Speaker 2: the middle who were going to be able to do
Speaker 2: both things because you know, up until this past year,
Speaker 2: you couldn't see you couldn't see a guy like I mean,
Speaker 2: let's just say Grace and Halton, like up until this point,
Speaker 2: like he struggled when it came time to you know,
Speaker 2: the run game. He was getting tossed around. Being in
Speaker 2: the upper two seventies to eighties. That's not something that
Speaker 2: you know, especially in the SEC, that you're going to
Speaker 2: be able to do because those defensive are so are
Speaker 2: those offensive guards and those centers. Those guys are you know,
Speaker 2: clearing three twenty three, fifteen stuff like that, and so
Speaker 2: they're at twenty thirty pounds up on you and they're
Speaker 2: the one dictating the pace. It was tough and so
Speaker 2: you're going to have to get four across the board
Speaker 2: in the SEC. And I think this is the first year.
Speaker 2: And yeah, Robert, you're right, Like, if you got guys
Speaker 2: like Marcus Strong and Henry who can come in and
Speaker 2: be that Yeoman's Ethan down Corey Klein, that type of situation.
Speaker 2: Guys who just Isaiah Coe is another guy who just
Speaker 2: you know more recently, who was just a guy who
Speaker 2: was always there doing something good and so confis If so,
Speaker 2: if you want to say that we are five five
Speaker 2: deep a de tackle potentially six, I'll give that to
Speaker 2: you because Trent Wilson is young. But at the same time,
Speaker 2: Trent Wilson's going to get his and that's the that's
Speaker 2: the big thing.
Speaker 3: That's the only part of my attitude.
Speaker 1: Probably I love it, and it's a good one. It's
Speaker 1: one of those I'm not smiling because I'm here to
Speaker 1: do work attitude. I love it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean you got to get out there,
Speaker 2: and I actually put some thump in it because these
Speaker 2: I mean, would you rather see a guy come out here?
Speaker 2: You know, Trent Frent's probably going to have a lot
Speaker 2: of the David Stone type snaps from last year, you know,
Speaker 2: to where it's you're going to get in You're gonna
Speaker 2: get some hurt. You know, last year we really dropped
Speaker 2: the ball by having a crap offense because it didn't
Speaker 2: allow us to let some of the backups cook. And
Speaker 2: it's the situation that we really found ourselves. We haven't
Speaker 2: had a lot of blowout, blowout time game game time
Speaker 2: over the past couple of years, and we want to
Speaker 2: get back to that. We want to get back to
Speaker 2: up fifty six to zero halftime and then you know,
Speaker 2: let some of the younger kids come out here and
Speaker 2: you know, try to preserve the shutout. Like listen, if
Speaker 2: we give up crap touchdowns with our third and fourth
Speaker 2: string guys, I'm okay with that. This year, you know,
Speaker 2: we will we will asterix the stats for the defense
Speaker 2: and say our first team is X y Z.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't care.
Speaker 2: I just want to see backups and depth pieces get
Speaker 2: a lot of consistent run this year.
Speaker 1: That's what we need. We need. We need some of
Speaker 1: the young guys to play because, as mentioned in the
Speaker 1: chat by Classic Sports, which is a very good point,
Speaker 1: we need some of the younger players to step up.
Speaker 1: And the only way those younger players step up is
Speaker 1: how playing. Yeah, gotta get my opportunity to get out
Speaker 1: there and play. And I think that that's actually what's
Speaker 1: gonna happen. So, yeah, we need some of these younger
Speaker 1: guys step up, which Taylor Wine has been getting some words.
Speaker 1: You've been hearing about him. Taylor him as well at
Speaker 1: Cheetah at sixty six, he's just not thick enough. But
Speaker 1: you know, I digress. You're hearing good from the other ones.
Speaker 1: Pj's up to sixteen. It sounds like he's still really
Speaker 1: good at two sixty. And he's actually healthy, which has
Speaker 1: been the biggest problem we had with him is his ankles.
Speaker 1: He's been having health issues. He's healthy, So y'all got you.
Speaker 1: You're getting what you want out of him. Our Mason actually,
Speaker 1: me and John talked about this, which five Star really
Speaker 1: needs to step up. We'll get jump into that another time.
Speaker 1: But next set of questions that have come through here,
Speaker 1: hold a second, and Daniel Koyer is gonna be an issue.
Speaker 1: He's gonna he's gonna definitely be an issue. Don't don't
Speaker 1: worry about that. He's gonna cause problems. But John, you
Speaker 1: asked his question about Adobe to may come back by Texas.
Speaker 1: His goal is to play by Illinois State. I'm gonna say, realistically,
Speaker 1: you get him back Kent State, maybe Auburn actually Auburn Baby. Realistic,
Speaker 1: I'd say Auburn would be realistic, which is basically about
Speaker 1: the time that was because he was he was her Tennessee,
Speaker 1: So that Auburn game would be the exact about the
Speaker 1: exact spot that or Kent State will be the exactly
Speaker 1: Kin State's probably the exact spot. No, no, it is
Speaker 1: that would be the spot because yeah, if he comes back, yeah,
Speaker 1: Alburn would be that game, I think Auburn would be it.
Speaker 1: So I'd say Auburn would be the most realistic. But
Speaker 1: his goal is Illinois State, which means he possibly could
Speaker 1: play a few snaps in that game, maybe a few
Speaker 1: snaps against Temple, But I think Auburn is the one
Speaker 1: where he comes back. That's me.
Speaker 2: Well, he's he's another person that you forget about quite often.
Speaker 2: And I mean if he if he wasn't a friend
Speaker 2: of the program and somebody that we talk about quite
Speaker 2: a bit, because I mean, obviously we're big Kendle Dolby fans,
Speaker 2: but I mean this is literally a guy that you
Speaker 2: forget about and you know, and I would say that
Speaker 2: guys like Gentry and guys like Kenda Dolby are are
Speaker 2: people that you know. The the the casual fans probably
Speaker 2: has kind of forgot a little bit about and so
Speaker 2: you can add those guys in and if they come
Speaker 2: back close to what they were there, they're big assets
Speaker 2: for this program.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: They are. And that's the most important thing is that
Speaker 1: that makes them like a massive assets if they come
Speaker 1: back nice and healthy. But this is good question here.
Speaker 1: Rumors around the wide receiver room is that there's a
Speaker 1: bunch more injuries. People are hurt, everybody's dying. What are
Speaker 1: these rumors true? So let me add to that real quick.
Speaker 3: We got no jobs, no money, our pets, heads are heads.
Speaker 1: Are falling off. So first and foremost, there were a
Speaker 1: couple of wide receivers that did go down, but nothing
Speaker 1: long term, nothing too serious. The last thing we heard
Speaker 1: was that, of course Jane Gibson had a set back,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't sound like he's done for the year
Speaker 1: no more a I'm done for probably the summer type situation.
Speaker 1: So that's good. That means that he still can be
Speaker 1: on pace to come back when we actually need him,
Speaker 1: which is when beginning of the season. So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: count on that to actually happen and not be too
Speaker 1: stressed out about it, even though I've been stressed like
Speaker 1: crazy about it as of late, but I digress, he'll
Speaker 1: be back. Contes Lewis, Josiah Martin and who else was it?
Speaker 1: Actually those were the two that had I heard had
Speaker 1: light dingers, but have practice recently, so we're good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And again.
Speaker 2: Jayden Gibson running on air doing his you know, kind
Speaker 2: of where are we at in the in the rehab process,
Speaker 2: and he had discomfort and they said, all right, well
Speaker 2: let's let's stop what was going back now, and let's
Speaker 2: let's take one step back and and kind of hit
Speaker 2: the drawing board again. So it wasn't a situation where
Speaker 2: he retore patella or anything like that, like he just there.
Speaker 2: There was there was that I put Jayden Gibson in
Speaker 2: the same situation as Doby and Gentry is from what
Speaker 2: I'm hearing about Setegna, what I'm hearing about Burks, you know,
Speaker 2: fully participating in everything. And then on top of it,
Speaker 2: Bonnie Gibson zon Kerney has had got some good reviews
Speaker 2: that he you know, he's taken another step.
Speaker 3: So you've got guys who you can rely on. And
Speaker 3: so if if.
Speaker 2: Jaden Gibson comes back around Auburn time or you know,
Speaker 2: right around that time. Again, it's just added extra of
Speaker 2: him coming back in. I don't expect to see that
Speaker 2: situation that we saw last year.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Ever again, you know in any program, because a lot
Speaker 2: had to go wrong at the right time in order
Speaker 2: for that to happen. So yeah, again, if you're if
Speaker 2: you're freaked out about the injury stuff, like we understand,
Speaker 2: but every single year, there there's an injury list at Auburn,
Speaker 2: there's an injury list at Alabama, there's an injury list
Speaker 2: at Yukon. There's an injury as list at Bartielow High School.
Speaker 2: Right now, everybody is going to have things up. Why
Speaker 2: because you're hitting each other every single day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think carry On is actually dealing with
Speaker 1: some some light dingers as well too. But I expect
Speaker 1: Tim to be back summer as well. So again, knock
Speaker 1: on wood, we're not dealing, We're not hearing anything. I
Speaker 1: think the big report that I've seen every insider say
Speaker 1: on their practice report is that the biggest win is
Speaker 1: that there's been no major setbacks when it comes to
Speaker 1: and Launch is back. He bursted for a big touchdown
Speaker 1: recently in practice, but then they shut him down just
Speaker 1: because so that sounds really it makes you feel good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And last year everybody was going, you know what
Speaker 2: needs to happen. There's the there there's a lot of
Speaker 2: people that told me last year that the team doctors
Speaker 2: went and said we need to back it off the
Speaker 2: tadbit and everybody was upset because we didn't well. This year,
Speaker 2: once guys are getting little dings, we're saying, all right,
Speaker 2: you come back over here at spring, let's rest, let's relax,
Speaker 2: let's chill out, let's get you ready to go for
Speaker 2: the summer in the fall. And so that's what we're
Speaker 2: seeing from the coaching staff is they do see somebody,
Speaker 2: they're not forcing them out there now. Again, that's a
Speaker 2: different debate for a different days on you know, how
Speaker 2: much do you want to be pulling guys out left
Speaker 2: and right. But at the same time, coming after last
Speaker 2: year in the spring, you can take it up, you know,
Speaker 2: you can take the conservative approach.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and definitely go check out oak on Breakdown where
Speaker 1: Lane Johnson as well as Gabe we're breaking down some
Speaker 1: of the one on ones and stuff. I'll put it
Speaker 1: to you this way, and this is a great way
Speaker 1: to wrap things up, is y'all. Everyone has that one
Speaker 1: fear right now is offensive line. That is what everybody's
Speaker 1: concern is, everybody's wondering and uncomfortable. Lane Johnson kind of
Speaker 1: gave raved him and Gabe kind of gave some praise
Speaker 1: to the line. It sounds like, especially because he was
Speaker 1: in town. Lane was in town recently. You saw actually
Speaker 1: there was a Sam Bradford sighting. Yep, actually here now.
Speaker 1: He tried to hide in the back.
Speaker 3: The back of the photo, which I.
Speaker 1: Get, you know, that's just what sammy boy does. But
Speaker 1: we had a sam Bradford sighting, would say we find
Speaker 1: a picture real quick. I think everyone needs to see
Speaker 1: this picture because that that that put a smile on
Speaker 1: my face. If anything, see if it shows up, well,
Speaker 1: let me fix this. Okay, let me fix that. See
Speaker 1: I can actually see it. But we had a Sam
Speaker 1: Bradford site because we had a Sam Bradford sighting, that
Speaker 1: made me say, oh things are uh there we go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you see him back there in the back, right there,
Speaker 1: hiding in the back corner. He's hiding in that back
Speaker 1: corner back there right by Teddy and Lane, which Lane
Speaker 1: is huge. I don't realize Lane is a dang huge good.
Speaker 3: Did you see the the I think.
Speaker 2: Twenty six or twenty seven guy that's I think it's
Speaker 2: I think his first names Cooper, but he would yeah,
Speaker 2: Cooper Hatchett, Yeah, Cooper Hatchet in there with h.
Speaker 1: I mean I think it's total Lane or Watso.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and that's a that's a boy who came
Speaker 2: out of high school at tight End.
Speaker 1: Cooper Hackett, my bad Hackett, not Hatchet, but yes Hackett.
Speaker 1: He was sixty seven two fifty offensive lineman and he
Speaker 1: was on campus and he's a giant when it comes
Speaker 1: to stand next to BV. But yeah, he Yeah, as
Speaker 1: you can see, we had the oens here and that
Speaker 1: was the one thing he said that he was looking
Speaker 1: for as a place where you know, veterans would show
Speaker 1: up and even funnier that you know, these guys all
Speaker 1: come to practice right afterwards and he's like, that was
Speaker 1: pretty cool to see them. I'll want to come back.
Speaker 1: And we all know that Sam Bradford ain't been back
Speaker 1: since Stoops has been gone.
Speaker 2: I think the last Sammy Bee sighting we saw was
Speaker 2: was at the Toby Keith funeral. I think that he
Speaker 2: came to that one, but I mean outside of that, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean Sam does his own his own stuff. I mean,
Speaker 2: he he's from Oklahoma. He's been around all this, you know,
Speaker 2: all this Oklahoma hoopla his whole entire life. And so,
Speaker 2: you know, I also think that a lot of people
Speaker 2: forget that Sam was really really quiet guy like he's
Speaker 2: and he's extremely athletic, so he likes doing. He likes
Speaker 2: going and doing, and he doesn't do a lot of
Speaker 2: just hang out and chill with folks. So it's good
Speaker 2: to be able to see him back. But you know,
Speaker 2: just to see that crew right there, that just makes
Speaker 2: me happy. And yeah, there you go, there's there's Cooper
Speaker 2: with with Lane that just blows my mind.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just I still just baffles me just how
Speaker 1: big Lane is, Like goodness, dude is just But and
Speaker 1: then Gabe has gotten so small because he doesn't play anything. Well,
Speaker 1: he's got to a great comfortable size, which is perfect.
Speaker 3: Gave it to him, Gabe.
Speaker 2: I want to He made a comment the other day
Speaker 2: that he was right around the God what did he say?
Speaker 2: He was right around the two thirty two forty range. Now,
Speaker 2: And I mean that's crazy because you hear the story
Speaker 2: about you know, I guess when they asked Gabe and
Speaker 2: Lane both to move from tight end over the offensive line.
Speaker 2: You get two guys who are all conference players. You know,
Speaker 2: Lane's going to be an NFL Hall of Famer. You
Speaker 2: know guys who switched over from tight end. You know,
Speaker 2: that's it's we have all kinds of people up and
Speaker 2: down the Oklahoma history on the offensive line who switched
Speaker 2: over from defensive tackle tight end. Uh. You know, it's
Speaker 2: a pretty cool deal. But yeah, that that's that's that's
Speaker 2: great photos. That's what some of the stuff you want
Speaker 2: to see. And yeah, I agree. Somebody said Teddy looks
Speaker 2: like he can still play. I promise you Teddy probably
Speaker 2: still has dreams that BB calls him over and somehow
Speaker 2: gets him in the game, and it's probably uh uh,
Speaker 2: I mean it's probably one that he wishes that he
Speaker 2: could get out there and do it one time, because
Speaker 2: I promise you he would turn around towards the line
Speaker 2: back I can crew and say that's how you do it, that's.
Speaker 1: How we do it, that's how you do it, that's
Speaker 1: how you do it. So but I mean that's the
Speaker 1: latest practice stuff that we're hearing. I'm ready to see
Speaker 1: what we look like when it comes to the Crimson
Speaker 1: combine and see all these drills. But Matier Mate's really
Speaker 1: you're gonna enjoy seeing him. If you come out there,
Speaker 1: you're gonna enjoy seeing him throw the ball.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Running back wise, I definitely expect a lot of ex
Speaker 1: rob a lot of salt chuck, a lot of Javante
Speaker 1: Barnes when Barnes gets back healthy, and honestly, you price
Speaker 1: see them Sam Franklin, which is kind of interesting to see.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Tory Blaylock has also made a name for himself already
Speaker 1: Brace yourself for Torri x xitry Man could be a
Speaker 1: lethal combination.
Speaker 3: I uh, you know, bless his heart.
Speaker 2: But you know, I live a little bit out here
Speaker 2: in the country. The other day my daughter wanted me
Speaker 2: to hit a golf ball, and so I went into
Speaker 2: my clubs, and you know, not on the course, I'm
Speaker 2: hitting it in my front yard. God knows what's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: So I just kind of went for that older club
Speaker 2: that I just really don't use very much anymore, but
Speaker 2: it's good for exhibition type stuff. And I grab it
Speaker 2: and I smash it right off the metal barn of
Speaker 2: neighbor about quarter mile away, No joking, right, across the street.
Speaker 2: But I feel like that's Sam Franklin. He is he
Speaker 2: is the guy on the team to where if we're
Speaker 2: up fifty six, you know, fifty six nothing in the
Speaker 2: fourth quarter, Sam Franklin's is going to come in and
Speaker 2: he's going to be the bulk of everything. You're gonna
Speaker 2: give Tori his run. But yeah, I mean, I think
Speaker 2: that's that's what Sam Franklin is is he is that guy.
Speaker 2: And we'll see if you see Sam Franklin all of
Speaker 2: a sudden start hearing rumors about Sam Franklin and the portal,
Speaker 2: that means that we probably want somebody else to come in.
Speaker 2: But outside of that, I mean, he's a good number
Speaker 2: four back for him because he's got plenty of experience
Speaker 2: and he's it's not like he's talentless.
Speaker 1: So it's funny you say that because I was. I
Speaker 1: was chopping it up with somebody today and they were like,
Speaker 1: the one thing about Franklin I noticed is that when
Speaker 1: he actually has the ball, he looks like a running back,
Speaker 1: like a good one. Like he gets the ball, You're like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: he can make something happen. The problem is just getting
Speaker 1: the ball. He's had issues getting the ball and holding
Speaker 1: the ball and not dropping the ball, dropping a pass
Speaker 1: or drop or fumbling the ball. It's holding the ball.
Speaker 1: If he holds the ball, I think he can be
Speaker 1: leaked on me. Ran for thirteen hundred yards and I
Speaker 1: don't think it was a fluke. It's just she got
Speaker 1: a you know, hold the ball. But we'll see what. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll see that looks like before we wrap up, we
Speaker 1: had a big vis visitor this weekend on top of
Speaker 1: you know, Cooper and a few others. But one name
Speaker 1: that everybody needs to go ahead and know is this one.
Speaker 1: Douce Gerald's.
Speaker 4: He visited.
Speaker 1: You see him with Bates, seeing him with BV and what.
Speaker 1: Ponge immediately popped up and says that the Sooners are
Speaker 1: you know, he's he's he he did his you know,
Speaker 1: thanks for the visit. Sounds like we are massive competitors
Speaker 1: for Deuce. Based upon the words of Steve wo Fong
Speaker 1: from on three, we are in the mix for this
Speaker 1: behemoth of a human being.
Speaker 2: Deuce has visited O you about one hundred and eleventy
Speaker 2: seven times. So there's nothing he is coming here to see,
Speaker 2: nothing at all that he is coming here to see.
Speaker 2: He knows what the program is, he knows what his
Speaker 2: lot is. I would say at this point it is implementation, conversations,
Speaker 2: you know, and talking to him recruiting stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Now I'm not saying that that's not also happening with
Speaker 2: at least one other program, but yeah, I mean we
Speaker 2: are here, and we've been here. He has been here
Speaker 2: several times. And if you ask PG, PG says, you know,
Speaker 2: it's it's getting close for him to to make in
Speaker 2: the call. So uh, man, I it's you're not going
Speaker 2: up against Sacramento State for guys like this. I mean,
Speaker 2: he is going to have other very very big programs
Speaker 2: including Ohio State, you know who is you know, coming
Speaker 2: off the National championship game, they are absolutely having to
Speaker 2: reload lost a ton of production. And then you got
Speaker 2: Clemson also, So that's a big number. That's a big guy.
Speaker 2: And you know, Jay, I think I'm gonna have to
Speaker 2: go back and look. But I mean usually around this
Speaker 2: time in the recruiting process, we're never more than three
Speaker 2: or four guys, you know, in tow at this point
Speaker 2: in time. So I think that I think that, you know,
Speaker 2: I would like to see him not pull a David
Speaker 2: Stone and wait till the end of the cycle to
Speaker 2: do it. I'd like to see him do it somewhat early.
Speaker 2: It does not matter if he commits to Ohio State, Oklahoma,
Speaker 2: Clemson until early signing day. It is going to be
Speaker 2: a continuation of recruiting for whichever team that you know
Speaker 2: picks up the early commitment.
Speaker 1: So right now, so right now, it sounds like Oklahoma's
Speaker 1: got a very good chance with him. It'll sounds like
Speaker 1: we're in We're in the tops. Him and kJ four
Speaker 1: together would be obscene and they again Trojan fight point
Speaker 1: this out. He tore it up at the Unarmoured game,
Speaker 1: similar to the way that Trent Wilson did when he
Speaker 1: decided to commit. He killed it over there and shut
Speaker 1: it down and was like, nope, it's where I'm coming.
Speaker 1: He ended up being the only the lineman we brought
Speaker 1: in and kids, kids gonna be something period. But I'd
Speaker 1: like due.
Speaker 3: Douce and kJ. I mean those guys like each other
Speaker 3: a lot.
Speaker 1: Oh good point.
Speaker 2: Yeah that also and you guys, I mean we saw
Speaker 2: the defensive line pull last year, so you knew, I
Speaker 2: guess two years ago, so you knew that, you know,
Speaker 2: with the Trent Wilson, you know, him being the only
Speaker 2: one you knew that it was going to be a
Speaker 2: big one.
Speaker 3: You know, Tulsa.
Speaker 2: Tulsa's got some guys here in the twenty six and
Speaker 2: twenty seven classes on the defensive line that are going
Speaker 2: to be big targets for Oklahoma. And you got to
Speaker 2: pull todj Overton. You got to pull some of these
Speaker 2: guys because the next couple of classes in Oklahoma don't
Speaker 2: look too terrific. You know, it's gonna be a very
Speaker 2: very top heavy So but yeah, you know dou Duke
Speaker 2: coming back, did he was a final five, final four,
Speaker 2: final eight, I can't remember right up the top my head. Okay,
Speaker 2: so he posted that not too long ago. You know,
Speaker 2: we're excited now because I mean, not too long ago.
Speaker 2: We were part of this conversation with these bigger guys,
Speaker 2: but we were you know, taking home the complimentary trophy
Speaker 2: or the bronze trope, bronze medal. It was never we
Speaker 2: were never getting the uh, never getting the commitment. And
Speaker 2: two years ago change that. So pay attention to this
Speaker 2: a defensive line class because it could be pretty salty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we and we could we really kind of
Speaker 1: need it. To be salty if you really think about it,
Speaker 1: so I kind of expect it to end up being
Speaker 1: that way. So yeah, we'll see what happens. All right,
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