Speaker 1: You see, something's going to happen.
Speaker 2: What what's going to happen? What you.
Speaker 1: Help if you look into actually the people who bred them,
Speaker 1: some of you know, these high ranking people, especially in
Speaker 1: New York. They German patriotic.
Speaker 2: So interesting. Okay, that makes a lot of sense too, Yeah, definitely,
Speaker 2: and that that would make a lot of sense why
Speaker 2: there's so much Nazi Nazism symbolic, you know, as far
Speaker 2: as like symbolically layered throughout many of the cult organizations,
Speaker 2: like the Process, right, I mean they had like a
Speaker 2: broken skull open with the blood draining out, was just
Speaker 2: like a dark shadows marching in lockstep goose stepping like
Speaker 2: you know, that would essentially a swastika. Yeah, it was
Speaker 2: like entirely you know, Nazi symbolism, you know. But but yeah,
Speaker 2: very strange. But yeah, I should go take a Alsatians.
Speaker 1: That's what they were called.
Speaker 2: Sorry my dogs? Can I can I.
Speaker 1: Throw in my symbolism of Delphi?
Speaker 3: Yes, I know you had a bunch of stuff.
Speaker 1: I've been like chomping at the bit, but I didn't
Speaker 1: want to interrupt. Okay, So if we look at the
Speaker 1: two victims, Libby Rose Liberty Rose Lynn German is her name,
Speaker 1: we noticed that it's two BB's for Libby, and then
Speaker 1: we have Abigail Joyce Williams again to BB's right. So
Speaker 1: we have the letter B being kind of reinforced and
Speaker 1: used again and again when we look at the victims themselves.
Speaker 4: Real quick, I just did want to you said, the
Speaker 4: girl's name is Liberty, right, Liberty. Yeah, that actually matches
Speaker 4: in Jewish Jamatari rituals.
Speaker 1: Interesting, that's interesting. Sorry, I just I just no, no,
Speaker 1: please please interject. So then and then, of course your
Speaker 1: last name is German, right, Liberty German, Okay. And so
Speaker 1: she was the she was the oldest one of the two.
Speaker 1: She's fourteen. She was the one that was found without clothes,
Speaker 1: and so that reminded me of like Eve in the garden,
Speaker 1: you know, still in the garden, still in what have you.
Speaker 1: But of course that's probably not, you know, odonistic. And
Speaker 1: then you have the youngest one, who's thirteen, and she
Speaker 1: was clothed, and she was the one that looked like
Speaker 1: the hanged man.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: One of the things that I kind of wanted to emphasize,
Speaker 1: and i'll, you know, briefly take you through that is
Speaker 1: the numbers four and three are found over and over
Speaker 1: and over, and I'll show you how here in a
Speaker 1: little bit, but with into the tree almost reminding you
Speaker 1: of the left hand path or separations and so fourth
Speaker 1: and you have the Norse mythology of the tree yarder cell.
Speaker 1: It's an ash tree. Odin's horse, you have, you know,
Speaker 1: the nine kind of coming into play with that. You
Speaker 1: have Odin Haynes himself. You have dry cell of the
Speaker 1: horse and all that other stuff. One of the things
Speaker 1: that I kind of, you know, gravitated towards was Yager
Speaker 1: sell sounds like garda cell, which was the vaccine that
Speaker 1: was used in HPV, and it was a vaccine put
Speaker 1: out by Mark and one of the main strains that
Speaker 1: I guess is responsible for cancers like six I mean sorry,
Speaker 1: sixteen eighteen, I think sometimes eleven six and whatever. But
Speaker 1: the thing that stood out the most was that it
Speaker 1: had first been developed for girls and they were advising
Speaker 1: them to be given between the ages of nine and thirteen.
Speaker 1: So nine again show or something kind of similar, and
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, that's kind of a stretch. Let
Speaker 1: me keep looking. While most of the HPV vaccine studies
Speaker 1: included a Delphi technique that you it was named after
Speaker 1: the oracle Delphi, and it basically it's a method to
Speaker 1: forecast decisions, so it assumes that are more valid than
Speaker 1: the individual judgment. And that method was used to predict
Speaker 1: market not so much the technique of developing vaccine theory
Speaker 1: or vaccine technology, but basically how could we put this
Speaker 1: out there and how could we implement it into public market,
Speaker 1: public health, public policymaking. So it's interesting that.
Speaker 2: The corporation was involved with with the Delphi method, right,
Speaker 2: right of course.
Speaker 1: And so then you have another software related to the
Speaker 1: Garsol vaccine where it's called the Delphi screener and simulate
Speaker 1: and estimate history of cervical cancer screening in a hypothetical situation.
Speaker 1: So they kind of model it or project it out.
Speaker 1: And then one thing that I thought interesting is that
Speaker 1: when the girls, when it was discovered in these girls had
Speaker 1: been victim of a crime, the tree of life became
Speaker 1: the symbol of their remembrance. And so I go back to, okay,
Speaker 1: we have again the yagersil the tree of odin that
Speaker 1: he hung himself. The other thing kind of stood out
Speaker 1: to me was a m Abby Williams. I'm sorry, so
Speaker 1: a M meaning the axis Moondy. But if you look
Speaker 1: at Abby Williams, if you flip the W, you get
Speaker 1: the the M. And Abby was the one that was
Speaker 1: indicating the hanged man, so almost like an opposite or
Speaker 1: upside down. And she had the position of the branches
Speaker 1: on the girls that looked like in A and M.
Speaker 1: So you have axis Mondy and I think am is
Speaker 1: also important in Freemasonry as well as Masonic, most Masonic things.
Speaker 1: But the other thing that kind of stood out, and
Speaker 1: it just happened while you were talking Austin. So just
Speaker 1: the numbers four and three seem to pop up and
Speaker 1: keep popping up. So we have a forty three second
Speaker 1: video from the girl's phone, right, total of forty three.
Speaker 3: He got a d.
Speaker 1: He was sentenced to forty three years in prison. Okay.
Speaker 1: So when you look at the toll the day that
Speaker 1: the bodies apparently or what was it, what was in
Speaker 1: February thirteenth, right, So you have a two, you have
Speaker 1: a three, and then you have twenty seventeen. So if
Speaker 1: you take away the ones, you have two three, then
Speaker 1: two and that would be four seven, I mean four
Speaker 1: and then three would be seven. And the reason I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: why well, what is the one important or not? But
Speaker 1: then you timestamped that Abby posted that video or somebody
Speaker 1: took a screenshot and it was two O seven. So
Speaker 1: you again you have, you know, the resundancy of like
Speaker 1: maybe it is this, but I think the so four
Speaker 1: and three were you know, kind of show up a lot.
Speaker 1: But it's the number seven that it's pointing to right,
Speaker 1: just kind of referring back and back. And so when
Speaker 1: you look at what was the other one the hangman
Speaker 1: in tarot is the number seven when you look at
Speaker 1: Ronald Logan when he died seventy seven. The other thing
Speaker 1: is and one thing that I always found where that
Speaker 1: nobody really picked up on. When you look at the
Speaker 1: way the girls that they were laid right, and you
Speaker 1: look at the brands that were laid over them, they
Speaker 1: look like a three and a four. And so if
Speaker 1: you look up what is what does the number three
Speaker 1: look like in rooms? It's basically the V with a
Speaker 1: with a straight line coming down like this. And then
Speaker 1: the other one described it looks like an F, which
Speaker 1: is the four. So it's three and four. And then
Speaker 1: you look at their ages, they're thirteen and fourteen, leaving
Speaker 1: out the one right. So then you look at what
Speaker 1: is number seven in odinism and it's too complete to finish, right,
Speaker 1: I mean I think so. And then when you look
Speaker 1: at the number seven in rooms, it's an X, which
Speaker 1: you could you could argue that that's also what that
Speaker 1: with the one with the branches with the long stick
Speaker 1: going across like them?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Wow, I just just thoughts and then really quickly let
Speaker 1: me finish this. I'm sorry because I'm like dying to
Speaker 1: get it all out. Okay, So that was the ruins germanship.
Speaker 1: We already talked about that. We talked about that. Oh murders.
Speaker 1: Sorry sorry sorry, Oh that was the end the number
Speaker 1: seven completeness. Kelsey. One of the things that I found
Speaker 1: really weird with Kelsey. She is the sister of Libby.
Speaker 1: She kind of has abandoned who she was and taken
Speaker 1: on the role of I'm living Libby's life.
Speaker 2: Right as she really I haven't followed it since, honestly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you had mentioned and early on we heard
Speaker 1: this that there was a Purdue professor that came out
Speaker 1: and said it's not that bulb blap. But then now
Speaker 1: they can't find him, right, whatever sense he took. I
Speaker 1: don't hear she took I don't know, but it was
Speaker 1: a Purdue professor. I remember that. And then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden they couldn't find who he was. What's interesting
Speaker 1: is that Kelsey has taken on I guess the narrative
Speaker 1: that she wants to grow up and become a forensic
Speaker 1: or go into forensics. And she's currently taking classes at university.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, so it's like, is it with the
Speaker 1: same professor, except I don't know. And so there is that.
Speaker 1: And then what you had mentioned, I'm so glad you
Speaker 1: mentioned him. You mentioned what's his name, Brad Holder, and
Speaker 1: a bunch of Facebook posts prior to the case, or
Speaker 1: prior to the whole thing, right, and they said that
Speaker 1: weird how he was, like he had all these Facebook
Speaker 1: images and they were kind of indicating certain that kind
Speaker 1: of led to one of the murders or what have you.
Speaker 1: But one of the the common theme that he had
Speaker 1: in his images was the what is it called tho
Speaker 1: in zaas I can't pronounce that, but it's basically the
Speaker 1: room for the number three, so that one where everybody's like, oh,
Speaker 1: it looks like anough, it looks like an F but
Speaker 1: we don't know what the other one is. It looks
Speaker 1: like a three. I mean, I think it does. It
Speaker 1: maybe doesn't.
Speaker 2: That's how they connect. That's basically what I was just
Speaker 2: getting to, basically was just that how the Rushville del
Speaker 2: Phi connection to the individuals who are part of the
Speaker 2: same group, the gang, right, the Vinlander Gang, I think
Speaker 2: is what they refer to themselves as, which if you
Speaker 2: look at Look a Vinlander, you get this historical text
Speaker 2: that seems to be very much involved at a crucial
Speaker 2: level of the ideological framework that they kind of exercise.
Speaker 2: It seems to be a sort of like almost origin
Speaker 2: story of the Vinlander. And they're like, it's very strange.
Speaker 2: It almost feels like some sort of reflection of a
Speaker 2: Knight's Templar connection almost. It honestly does.
Speaker 1: Yes, And you're you're absolutely right with the whole Night's
Speaker 1: Templar because again we go to Access Mondy and they
Speaker 1: were the ones that pretty much bring Access Mondy into
Speaker 1: the zeitgeist. Yeah wow, And that's where you get the
Speaker 1: people are basically go into the Rosicrucians, and they go
Speaker 1: into the Masons, and then they go into all the
Speaker 1: other secret societies that kind of come out of that
Speaker 1: if by if if, and I believe they were Germanic
Speaker 1: of sorts, I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: That's where I think a lot of the there's there's
Speaker 2: a lot of Germanic imagery that's used in the context
Speaker 2: of the Vinlanders, which I find interesting. And that's another
Speaker 2: reason why I think they called them no essentially neo Nazis,
Speaker 2: you know, and in a certain way they said they
Speaker 2: were they were basically, you know, fundamentally sort of white supremacists, right,
Speaker 2: which I found interesting. But but uh, basically and I
Speaker 2: have to, I have to, I have to share this
Speaker 2: picture of Brad Holder in a moment. But that whole uh,
Speaker 2: that whole point as far as there's a connection to
Speaker 2: this individual by the name of Johnny Messer. And this
Speaker 2: is where the Facebook posts come into play, which is
Speaker 2: so crazy. As you were mentioning how they're they're kind
Speaker 2: of recreating, uh, the same photos that that each of
Speaker 2: them are posting on their Facebook pages around the same time,
Speaker 2: which that to me, uh, you know, is kind of
Speaker 2: another uh sort of perfect avenue into to witnessing this
Speaker 2: sort of you know, flex that they're very proud of this,
Speaker 2: uh and initiatory event. I think or find finality. I mean,
Speaker 2: what what exactly would you call it? If what happened?
Speaker 2: What is it called whenever you move up in the
Speaker 2: in the context of a secret fraternal organization. Yeah, basically yeah,
Speaker 2: you're you're promoted with and the this is ide Yeah,
Speaker 2: and and so basically the Unified Command they discovered this
Speaker 2: just you know, at least disturbing Odinis. Evidence was was
Speaker 2: provided to them that proved by the task Force that
Speaker 2: there were connections from the members of the Venlander group
Speaker 2: in Rushville to the members of the Vinlander group in Delphi.
Speaker 2: And that's where you have this Johnny Messer individual from
Speaker 2: Rushville who comes into the picture. And Johnny was allegedly
Speaker 2: a recruiter for the Odinis, right, for the Odenites also,
Speaker 2: and he seems to provide this connective tissue between the
Speaker 2: two areas and and the Odenites. Brad Holder and Patrick
Speaker 2: Westfall are then connected to the Rushville suspects, Elvis Fields
Speaker 2: and Rodd Abrams right who Elvis is the one who
Speaker 2: told the asked the truth if you find my spit
Speaker 2: on one of the girls, right, who told his sister
Speaker 2: that he spit on him and that he was at
Speaker 2: the he was he was responsible and a part of
Speaker 2: the killings, and at this ritual, you know, the night
Speaker 2: before that he had told his sister, and so that
Speaker 2: is where the connection kind of forms and Delph it's
Speaker 2: like one hundred and twenty five miles basically from Rushville,
Speaker 2: and law enforcement were aware that Johnny Messer was friends
Speaker 2: with Brad Holder and Patrick Westfall, and so it was
Speaker 2: also known that Messer was acquaintances with Elvis Fields and
Speaker 2: Rodd Abrams. So this is the recruiter for the Odonites.
Speaker 2: So basically it appears as if this connection was then
Speaker 2: chalked up to a simple bizarre coincidence by the Unified Command. Legitimately,
Speaker 2: that's how they explain this away. They just act as
Speaker 2: if this is an actual coincidence, and we shouldn't look
Speaker 2: into the statements that were made by anyone surrounding these
Speaker 2: individuals or the individuals themselves, which clearly show that they
Speaker 2: have no real alibi that's legitimate, incredible, and yet that
Speaker 2: doesn't force the or at least, you know, it doesn't
Speaker 2: of course force the investigators to pursue that at any
Speaker 2: real level of honesty or integrity. And that proves out
Speaker 2: to me that the Unified Command was clearly compromised, especially
Speaker 2: what takes place with the Task Force. So Elvis Fields, right,
Speaker 2: So you have this crazy connection between Elvis Fields, Rodd
Speaker 2: Abram's Bradholder and Patrick Westfall who are sharing this a
Speaker 2: common acquaintance in Johnny Messer, who's the recruiter for the Oldness.
Speaker 2: But it turns out that Elvis Fields and Brad Holder
Speaker 2: they happen to also follow each other on Facebook while
Speaker 2: mimicking each other's Facebook pages, with Elvis Fields actually recreating
Speaker 2: the photos that Holder posted on his Facebook page. So
Speaker 2: at this is shocking as hell because I believe as
Speaker 2: August to twenty twenty three, there was a deposition and
Speaker 2: Jerry Holman was the Unified Command member who claimed that
Speaker 2: he did not even know who Johnny Messer was nor
Speaker 2: what the evidence showed of Messer's possible role in the
Speaker 2: murders of Abby and Libby. This is after the task
Speaker 2: has provided all the information including these individuals as key
Speaker 2: perpetrators potentially involved, and so he's already I think Jerry Holman,
Speaker 2: member of the Unified Command, was one of the key
Speaker 2: compromised individuals who helped facilitate the cover up, and that
Speaker 2: continues to show itself. But there's you know it's Johnny
Speaker 2: Messer was cleared as a suspect, just like just like
Speaker 2: Brad Holder when and that was all you know you
Speaker 2: cleared While still considering the fact that Johnny's ex girlfriend,
Speaker 2: Taylor Hornaday, she told police that Johnny, Johnny Messer, and
Speaker 2: Patrick Westfall were like brothers. She also told police that
Speaker 2: she had allowed Johnny to borrow her car on or
Speaker 2: around Valentine's Day twenty seventeen, and that Johnny drove this
Speaker 2: car her car up there to hang with his Vinlander friends.
Speaker 2: So he drove as if he had driven one hundred
Speaker 2: twenty five miles up to Delphi to hang with his
Speaker 2: Vinlander friends. When he returned his vehicle or her vehicle,
Speaker 2: it had dried blood over one side of it. Johnny
Speaker 2: Messer refused to discuss the details of how the blood
Speaker 2: got there, and his ex girlfriend further states that it
Speaker 2: took her several car washes to finally remove this blood. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: Messer has claimed that he had never, not once in
Speaker 2: his life been to Delphi home of his brother Patrick
Speaker 2: Westfall right and near the home of his other odinite brother,
Speaker 2: Brad Holder, and again Vinlander is a word allegedly interchangeable
Speaker 2: with those that practice odinism. As State Trooper Roland Purty
Speaker 2: stated in his deposition, all members of Vinlanders are also odinis,
Speaker 2: and also it says that the Vinlanders are a white
Speaker 2: supremacist group consisting of odinis. Brad Holder, Patrick Westfall, and
Speaker 2: Johnny Messer were all affiliate with the Venlander group. Johnny
Speaker 2: Messer's x girlfriend, the same woman, Taylor Hornaday, she also
Speaker 2: would confirm that all Vinlanders were also all odinous, and
Speaker 2: that Johnny Messer, Bradholder, and Patrick Westfall were all members
Speaker 2: of the Vinlander So Taylor Hornaday Messrs ex girlfriend. She
Speaker 2: would continue on to tell law enforcement that brad Holder
Speaker 2: and Johnny were two of the most violent people she
Speaker 2: knew and were fully capable of having been involved in
Speaker 2: the murders. Now, the same woman would would state that
Speaker 2: a motive for their involvement seemed to have been the
Speaker 2: concept of quote blood in and blood out, which means
Speaker 2: social acceptance into their secret circles. This was an initiatory
Speaker 2: blood sacrifice, I mean, that's what it seems as if
Speaker 2: took place. But all this information was relayed to you know,
Speaker 2: one of the leaders of the Unified Command and Lagette
Speaker 2: and and the entire Unified Command team. But no guidance
Speaker 2: whatsoever or capitalization on this information in any way toward
Speaker 2: actually solving these murders was actually pursued. And so although
Speaker 2: Unified Command learned that Johnny Messer's ex girlfriend had been
Speaker 2: listening to and recording Johnny Messer's phone calls, police secured
Speaker 2: the phone and listened to three phone calls involving Johnny.
Speaker 2: In two of those phone calls, Messer was quote offering
Speaker 2: money to other people to find someone so they can
Speaker 2: be injured or killed. The third call involves Messer quote
Speaker 2: bragging about holding a subject hostage and shooting them at
Speaker 2: his house. So when you go through the memorandum and
Speaker 2: the affidavit and all the court documents that are provided
Speaker 2: in the Delphi case, it is fundamentally, in my mind
Speaker 2: it's possible, you know, to to sort of just at
Speaker 2: the very least ignore you know that these these details
Speaker 2: are are so condemning and damning details you know, in
Speaker 2: my mind, actually providing us with legitimate perpetrators, the names
Speaker 2: of the individuals involved, where they were on the night
Speaker 2: of the murders taking place. How their alibis completely fall apart.
Speaker 2: If you attempt to, you know, at any level, you know,
Speaker 2: corroborate the legitimacy of the alibi, it doesn't stand up.
Speaker 2: And they each rely on each other to to sort of,
Speaker 2: you know, make these false statements. And the official unified
Speaker 2: command would do everything in their capability to ignore all
Speaker 2: of these connections and all of this cooperative evidence, and
Speaker 2: and then with worse than that, wouldhold it all from
Speaker 2: the defense and the prosecution, you know, because I believe
Speaker 2: the judge was obviously in bed with the prosecution itself.
Speaker 2: But the fact of the matter is, you know, they
Speaker 2: essentially said nothing to see here. And regarding Johnny Messer, right,
Speaker 2: and and Patrick Westfall and Brad Holder, and so none
Speaker 2: of them, they're no search warrants for for any of
Speaker 2: them were issued. So then you have, of course the
Speaker 2: odin I correctional officers who are abusing Richard Allen, and
Speaker 2: that that's very strange because there there's in odin we
Speaker 2: trust is a patch that was being displayed with symbols
Speaker 2: of Odinism on their actual prison guard uniforms in the
Speaker 2: Westville Corrections facility. And and so it's obviously to me
Speaker 2: that you you have these these members of the Westville
Speaker 2: Correctional Facility who are legitimately abusing Richard Allen during the
Speaker 2: throughout the course of this investigation and then after he's
Speaker 2: apprehended in the case going forward to the trial. It's
Speaker 2: it's just it's fast to me how it all kind
Speaker 2: of takes shape. But yes, so it turns out that
Speaker 2: two of these individuals who were the old night correctional
Speaker 2: officers alleged to have abused Richard Allen while he's in
Speaker 2: custody and intimidated him right Apparently their names were Sergeant
Speaker 2: Robertson and Sergeant Jones. And these officers were were boldly
Speaker 2: wearing these patches right on their DC uniforms, so beyond
Speaker 2: that you have, and they were in the form of
Speaker 2: these interlocking triangles. I think that I saw you pull
Speaker 2: up earlier, Nick, where I had seen you pull up
Speaker 2: a lot of different symbols and and and one of
Speaker 2: them was these interlocking triangles that very obviously I had
Speaker 2: gotten a picture of one of the patches that was
Speaker 2: on the the correctional officers uniforms, and and yeah, it
Speaker 2: was so clearly obvious that it was an old Knight
Speaker 2: symbol and.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, And you know what, I thought,
Speaker 3: it just really quick. I wanted to throw this into it.
Speaker 4: I thought, you know, when I came across this and
Speaker 4: I heard about this stuff, I don't know why it
Speaker 4: made me remember and I me and Lux originally when
Speaker 4: we did the Occult Rejects, I did it with him
Speaker 4: and we had covered the what.
Speaker 3: The fuck was that shit? That insurrection spokely you know,
Speaker 3: whatever you want to call that.
Speaker 4: Thing, and you had that uh that QAnon shaman guy. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, we cover that whole thing where that guy
Speaker 4: was like practically dressed up. Like I can't remember the
Speaker 4: ritual because it was Lux was the one who found it.
Speaker 4: I was like kind of looking at other things, but
Speaker 4: that guy pretty much fit like a ritual that was
Speaker 4: going on, and I found it interesting how he did
Speaker 4: have that symbol on.
Speaker 3: His chest as well. Of course, you know, it's just
Speaker 3: like you know, like is this all theater as well?
Speaker 4: It's hard to explain, like it's just you know, and
Speaker 4: again like I'm not saying I don't know how to
Speaker 4: say this. You know, there are people on the far
Speaker 4: right who are interested in Trump just put it that
Speaker 4: way right, So you know, could he be going back
Speaker 4: to shit and I like this.
Speaker 2: Coham, Sorry, no, I.
Speaker 4: Could have just be going back to people that are
Speaker 4: interested in that shipping into the occult one.
Speaker 2: And I mean you see the templars and the strange loyalists,
Speaker 2: uh to certain, I meanless circle P two. I mean,
Speaker 2: how many different members are surrounding Trump at this moment
Speaker 2: who have affiliations and loyalties to these secret fraternal organizations
Speaker 2: that are pursuing a very similar agenda. Uh yeah, I
Speaker 2: just you know, we can't believe our own eyes. And
Speaker 2: political puppets perform in the political theater, right, they perform
Speaker 2: their roles for the clearly this sort of aristocratic elite
Speaker 2: class that that have fundamentally structured modern society to where
Speaker 2: we clearly they're insulated from accountability in more ways than one.
Speaker 2: And and that's why. And also you have to be
Speaker 2: among the initiated or introduced to the ideas at the
Speaker 2: very least two not you know, kind of be seduced,
Speaker 2: right or at the very least not not be able
Speaker 2: to identify the clear and obvious loyalist symbology and symbolism
Speaker 2: that surrounds many of these individuals who are trying to
Speaker 2: exercise and flex their loyal uh you know, loyal nature
Speaker 2: to their organization. But but yeah, I think there's also
Speaker 2: like just symbols surrounding like uh, you know, for example,
Speaker 2: whenever Trump's in the Oval office and they they they're
Speaker 2: kind of performing some sort of you know, public uh
Speaker 2: it clearly have you not seen the the strange shelf
Speaker 2: that's behind Trump where every single presidential administration they have
Speaker 2: different things that they put on the shelf, and for
Speaker 2: for his background, it now seems to be all these
Speaker 2: gold statues that take on different forms. And it's very
Speaker 2: interesting because to me it looks like it's deliberate and
Speaker 2: you know, and and who knows what the ties are there,
Speaker 2: But I wouldn't all be shocked. I saw something the
Speaker 2: other day that that showed that there were, you know,
Speaker 2: clear reasons as to why Trump is the true German Shepherd.
Speaker 2: That's funny. But but yeah, you know, it's crazy about
Speaker 2: these of course, And and you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: I covered the Cancora Boys Home and and uh Roy Kohane,
Speaker 2: his mentor, flat out raped Richard Kerr. You know, I
Speaker 2: mean legitimately trafficked that dude. From Cancora Boys Home and
Speaker 2: was a pedophile who ran sexual blackmail, human compromised parties
Speaker 2: where the Processed Church, according to David Berkwitz, was supplying
Speaker 2: him with young children right at his human compromised parties
Speaker 2: where he's living geographically very close to that of Trump
Speaker 2: at the time. And uh, and we all know at
Speaker 2: this point that Richard that Roy Cohne he was responsible
Speaker 2: for actually blackmailing Jaeger Hoover and the Blue Sweet parties
Speaker 2: and and h and so the idea that Trump hasn't
Speaker 2: been drenched in human compromise for generations and that you know,
Speaker 2: you can go back to was it Murdoch or who
Speaker 2: was the individual who the money money manager of the Rothchilds,
Speaker 2: who are like, uh, basically stating when Trump had a
Speaker 2: filed for bankruptcy back in the day that after it,
Speaker 2: and of course he took over Royal Casino International, which
Speaker 2: has ties to the Mayor Lancey Mayor Lansky syndicate. But
Speaker 2: nobody talks about that. But of course it just it
Speaker 2: blows me away, you know, considering the fact that Trump
Speaker 2: would then purchase that very same hotel that was utilized
Speaker 2: for audio visual blackmail for that roy Cohne with blackmail,
Speaker 2: JEdgar Hoover with and then he also happens to purchase
Speaker 2: a non Koshogi's yacht which is also entirely rigged with
Speaker 2: audio visual blackmail, who was connected to the Maxwell Epstein
Speaker 2: network of running guns through a RAN contra. And Epstein
Speaker 2: himself was was right living under a fake passport in
Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia and different identity while these embezzling funds from
Speaker 2: a non Koshogi's arms smuggling operation. So to me, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, it's like, let's put all the individuals who
Speaker 2: are compromised by the Epstein network in charge of Epstein
Speaker 2: disclosure and see what happens. You know, it's hilarious to me.
Speaker 2: But anyway, the fundamental point I was attempting to make
Speaker 2: with the symbolic nature of the correctional officers not only
Speaker 2: wearing the patches and you know, clearly displaying their loyalties,
Speaker 2: but they also, just like Brad Holder, just like Patrick Westfall,
Speaker 2: they were also posting these od Night symbols on their
Speaker 2: Facebook pages, clear displays of these ruins and images, and
Speaker 2: so I think it was there was a photograph that
Speaker 2: one of them, one of the correctional officers either Robinson
Speaker 2: or Jones had displayed on their Facebook page as well,
Speaker 2: and it was like an altar, right, some sort of
Speaker 2: od alter that that uh, they were essentially utilizing and
Speaker 2: and or at least portraying on their on their page
Speaker 2: and and so yeah, the same well something very similar
Speaker 2: could be found, uh, almost identical on that of the
Speaker 2: Facebook page of Brad Holder, which is fascinating to me
Speaker 2: that they were kind of again, they were mimicking each
Speaker 2: other's Facebook pages with the symbology surrounding the case that
Speaker 2: had yet to go public, and and that in itself
Speaker 2: is some sort of uh, you know, it's some sort
Speaker 2: of strange Yeah. I mean, when when you feel as
Speaker 2: if you're protected enough to where you can kind of
Speaker 2: flaunt your you know, uh, it really is kind of
Speaker 2: outwardly taking credit, you know what I mean in a
Speaker 2: way to where you feel as if you have no
Speaker 2: concern about legitimate consequences being you know, coming around the
Speaker 2: corner and during them at any real level personally. So yeah,
Speaker 2: to me, it seemed as if this was a perfect
Speaker 2: display of how much how confident they truly were the
Speaker 2: individual perpetrators involved in this, and it goes to show
Speaker 2: that whatever Patrick Westfall had told Brad Holder or when
Speaker 2: they had their falling out after this alleged falling out,
Speaker 2: after this ritual murder, that according to Amber Holder, right,
Speaker 2: Brad Holder's ex wife, that Patrick Westfall he had powerful
Speaker 2: people he was connected with and they were protected essentially
Speaker 2: from any real accountability. And so that goes to show
Speaker 2: I think that obviously, beyond the connection to the prison
Speaker 2: system and the correctional officers themselves being loyal to the
Speaker 2: group who are obviously apparently abusing Richard Allen during the
Speaker 2: course of his you know, just being you know, obviously
Speaker 2: in custody, it was just like at every level, you know,
Speaker 2: there's not justice that's being pursued at any you know,
Speaker 2: it's just it's kind of extraordinary to look at this
Speaker 2: case and and see that none of these oldness signatures
Speaker 2: in the crime scene were pursued at any level. And so, yeah,
Speaker 2: the oldness patches were later apparently as they as the
Speaker 2: prosecution realized that the defense had had discovered the fact
Speaker 2: that these oldness patches were being worn by the correctional
Speaker 2: officers who were essentially abusing Richard Allen, and and and
Speaker 2: you know, obviously there and present whenever Richard Allen would
Speaker 2: discuss any of the details of his case with his
Speaker 2: family members or his defense team, that basically, you know,
Speaker 2: they had removed their patches in a very timely manner,
Speaker 2: and just as the defense had discovered and we're going
Speaker 2: to make it public, all of a sudden, the patches
Speaker 2: of loyalty to the Oldness Group were removed from the
Speaker 2: correctional officer's uniform. And so that in itself kind of
Speaker 2: provided a smoking gun as to the fact that had
Speaker 2: one insider information insider knowledge. Things were going around and
Speaker 2: very quickly in terms of oh, no, they've discovered this connection.
Speaker 2: We have to now cover our tracks, and then it
Speaker 2: being entirely you know, just ignored from then on, you know,
Speaker 2: basically going forward, and all of this was sort of
Speaker 2: you know, they I think there was a process of
Speaker 2: concealing this very important information in order to falsify these
Speaker 2: uh these the the evidence, right, and and that was
Speaker 2: the whole point was to uh. In the context of
Speaker 2: the memorandum, it basically legitimately says that that they were
Speaker 2: falsifying the information in order to bolster the bogus timeline
Speaker 2: of the state and so that in itself, uh, you know,
Speaker 2: I think is I think that's a correct interpretation of
Speaker 2: how it how it happened. And when the FBI was
Speaker 2: removed from the Delphi case, that in itself proves out
Speaker 2: to kind of lend credibility to the idea that that
Speaker 2: obviously this was not going to come out publicly in
Speaker 2: any real way. And so this state there was like
Speaker 2: a essentially the state police superintendent. He decides he's going
Speaker 2: to pull the plug and kick the FBI off the
Speaker 2: Delphi murder case in twenty twenty one. And all of
Speaker 2: that is over some conflicts, apparently some sort of ridiculous
Speaker 2: alleged conflicts. They're they're going to force the FBI off
Speaker 2: the case. And this all happened at the exact same
Speaker 2: time that one of the federal agents in the investigative
Speaker 2: task Force was essentially executed in broad daylight. And so
Speaker 2: what we have here is Todd Klick, right, the former
Speaker 2: investigator on the task force's He's thought to have been
Speaker 2: the strongest piece of evidence for Andrew Baldwin and Brad Rossey,
Speaker 2: the attorneys for Richard Allen. And so basically this three
Speaker 2: man investigative unit that formed in twenty eighteen, as I mentioned,
Speaker 2: was formed in order to investigate obviously, the odinism connections
Speaker 2: to the ritual killings. And so you had, in the
Speaker 2: exact same time that the FBI is removed from the
Speaker 2: murder case, you have this task force that's disbanded. And
Speaker 2: so this task force is disbanded at the exact same
Speaker 2: time that Detective Greg Farrency is murdered in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 2: Just after is when the task force is disbanded and
Speaker 2: the FBI is removed from the case. So this is
Speaker 2: all very interesting to me because a federal grand jury
Speaker 2: in Indianapolis, they essentially return an indictment charging this Terry
Speaker 2: hout man with the murder of a federal officer. Now,
Speaker 2: when you look into who killed Detective Greg Ferency, who
Speaker 2: was on the Odinism task force, it turns out that
Speaker 2: it was this individual from Terry hout who was he
Speaker 2: attempted arson of a federal property as well, and used
Speaker 2: a firearm in order to commit the killing. Obviously, But
Speaker 2: his name was Shane Meehan, all right, He's forty five
Speaker 2: years old at the time. And it turns out this
Speaker 2: is July seventh, twenty twenty one, and he decides he's
Speaker 2: going to show up to the federal building where Officer
Speaker 2: Greg Ferency is located. He was a member of the
Speaker 2: three person task force. And so it turns out Mehan
Speaker 2: had previously been charged by a federal criminal complaint filed
Speaker 2: on July eighth, and according to the documents, Mehann drove
Speaker 2: his pickup truck to the gate of the FBI Resident
Speaker 2: Agency building in Terry Hout. Meehann exited his truck and
Speaker 2: throw a Molotov cocktail toward the building just after Terry
Speaker 2: Hout police detective and FBI Task Force Officer Greg Referency.
Speaker 2: It was almost as if he just pulls up to
Speaker 2: the federal building lobs a Molotov cocktail at the building
Speaker 2: in order to lure out the only individual. Right let's say,
Speaker 2: Greg Ferency is clearly the priority target. But this is
Speaker 2: an attempt to lure out a federal agent in order
Speaker 2: to execute them on the steps like it very much
Speaker 2: seems as if this is what happens, because it turns
Speaker 2: out that he drives to the federal building, he exited
Speaker 2: his truck, throws a Molotov cocktail toward the building, and
Speaker 2: Just after this, you have Greg Ferenncy walk out of
Speaker 2: the FBI building and confront Mehan, and he's holding a
Speaker 2: gun at the time. Mehan shoots the task force officer
Speaker 2: and he dies shortly after. And so the FBI agent
Speaker 2: inside the office allegedly heard the shots, came out and
Speaker 2: got into a gun battle with Mehn, and so Mehen
Speaker 2: was reportedly hit twice, managed to somehow get to his
Speaker 2: truck drive to the hospital. He undergoes surgery for his
Speaker 2: wounds and was later taken into custody. Now I looked
Speaker 2: this guy up and I discovered that Shane Meehan, this
Speaker 2: accused gunman in the shooting, having to be a former
Speaker 2: employee of the high security federal prison in Terry Hout.
Speaker 2: So I thought instant connection to the potential, right the
Speaker 2: correctional officer, the correctional officers who had been clearly members
Speaker 2: of the Odinisk group and and you know, providing it
Speaker 2: as far as just you know, exercising their loyalty obviously publicly.
Speaker 2: And so it looks as if me I personally thought
Speaker 2: instantly this guy had some sort of connection to that
Speaker 2: very organization and there was a reason why he had
Speaker 2: spent so many years at this maximum facility prison in
Speaker 2: Terry Hout, So it made sense to me. It fit
Speaker 2: this sort of you know, just fundamentally pattern recognition. It
Speaker 2: was hard to ignore. But he even runs for mayor,
Speaker 2: this guy as an independent in twenty nineteen and he
Speaker 2: finished last in a four way race with one percent
Speaker 2: of the vote. And if you can believe it, Man
Speaker 2: he ran on an anti gun violence platform, which is
Speaker 2: so funny. And there's a video story on me Hen
Speaker 2: who and his candidacy for mayor and says he had
Speaker 2: lived in Terry Hout his entire life. He retired from
Speaker 2: the Terry House Federal Penitentiary and was working for UPS
Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen. Man said he wanted to show that
Speaker 2: a political outsider could win and said schools were one
Speaker 2: of the biggest challenges Terry Hout faced. But yeah, it
Speaker 2: turns out that a federal court would conveniently rule that
Speaker 2: Shane Meehan and this is in November twenty fifth, twenty
Speaker 2: twenty five, or he's not competent to stand trial for
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty one fatal shooting of Terry Help police
Speaker 2: detective and FBI lia soon Greg Pharisee so to me,
Speaker 2: it lends credibility to the idea this individual performed targeted
Speaker 2: assassination on behalf of the organization to continue to one
Speaker 2: provide a pretext to remove the FBI from the case,
Speaker 2: also to provide an avenue to legitimately disbanding the task
Speaker 2: force who were solely, you know, given the purpose of
Speaker 2: as I mentioned before, investigating the olderness signatures of the
Speaker 2: crime scene. So that in itself fascinating to me, and
Speaker 2: especially since this judge clearly claims that he's suffering from
Speaker 2: a mental disease, rendering him mentally incompetent to the extent
Speaker 2: that he is unable to understand the nature and the
Speaker 2: consequences of the proceedings against him or assist properly in
Speaker 2: his defense. So to me, I also think, like, you know,
Speaker 2: what happens if if if you are an asset and
Speaker 2: you're you're essentially At times, I feel as if some
Speaker 2: of these assets are are given false promises right as
Speaker 2: if they they will come out on the other side
Speaker 2: of this sort of you know, with with their proper
Speaker 2: defense and protection in place by the by providing and
Speaker 2: showing and exercising their loyalty to the organization they would
Speaker 2: be taken care of, but more times than not, I
Speaker 2: think they're kind of hung out to dry and they're
Speaker 2: they're you know, as far as uh uh, what's it
Speaker 2: called when you're an expendable You're an expendable asset at
Speaker 2: this point, and so okay, you're willing to go through this,
Speaker 2: but now we have to sort of convince the outside
Speaker 2: world that that you have lost your mind effectively and
Speaker 2: you are no longer fit to stand trial. And sucks
Speaker 2: Jesus my dogs. Anyway, So yeah, to me, I just
Speaker 2: thought that there's no way that this is what it
Speaker 2: seems to be right at face value. This guy was,
Speaker 2: in my mind, I think kind of he was. At
Speaker 2: the very least, he was an asset in my mind
Speaker 2: that was utilized in order to help the timing of it.
Speaker 2: All too convenient. It's hard to believe in coincidence. But yeah,
Speaker 2: and then after this, following this, subsequently to it, you
Speaker 2: have the federal investigator Todd Klick, whose career and reputation
Speaker 2: is entirely destroyed in order to remove him as a witness,
Speaker 2: a key witness on behalf of Richard Allen's defense, which
Speaker 2: made a lot of sense to me. Right, And that's
Speaker 2: another reason why Judge Francis goal would effectively block all
Speaker 2: testimony about odinism during the trial of Richard Allen. And
Speaker 2: that is another reason how he again, if the jury
Speaker 2: can't even hear the credible evidence that seems to have,
Speaker 2: you know, real corroborative aspects to it, you know, then
Speaker 2: of course you know that this would be the case.
Speaker 2: You would effectively have no other priority, you know, perpetrator
Speaker 2: that you would focus on, in my mind, and so
Speaker 2: that's why you have He comes forward Todd click just
Speaker 2: after all this takes place, and he testifies, right, and
Speaker 2: it was early in twenty twenty four. He testifies that
Speaker 2: essentially this Nick McCleland is the prosecutor. Yeah, I was
Speaker 2: thinking that in custody, who wouldn't receive the mk ultra
Speaker 2: treatment to a certain extent, right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's like, why wouldn't right, Yeah, why wouldn't you scramble
Speaker 2: the brains of Richard Allen at a certain level? And
Speaker 2: also why wouldn't he come forward and say sixty different times, yeah,
Speaker 2: I did it after he said as this entire other right,
Speaker 2: his defense everyone involved is claiming, no, that's impossible. Right,
Speaker 2: and he himself has provided so many details to to
Speaker 2: uh to the contrary right, and and so it just
Speaker 2: to me it seemed as if, especially seeing the trans
Speaker 2: transformation that he had once he was already in custody,
Speaker 2: he looks like a different person if you saw him
Speaker 2: being ushered through within the smock or whatever he's in.
Speaker 2: And and and and also consider the the individual Shane
Speaker 2: Meehan who goes who's given the task of just driving
Speaker 2: up to the federal building and lobbing them all a
Speaker 2: toove cocktail to to provoke the one individual you would
Speaker 2: need to execute in order to kind of like provide
Speaker 2: a plausible, uh, you know, reason to pretext to disband
Speaker 2: the task force and remove the FBI federal involvement. It
Speaker 2: makes sense. And and so anyway, Todd Klick, he feels
Speaker 2: the need to come forward, and I'm almost done finally
Speaker 2: with well we'll get to the end of this and
Speaker 2: and uh, I'll come to to a conclusion. But but
Speaker 2: but it's interesting because Todd Klick, right, he comes forward.
Speaker 2: He's telling the prosecutor Nick McCleland, after Richard Allen's arrest
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two that he's clearly concerned about the
Speaker 2: substance behind Allan's conviction or as far as his arrest
Speaker 2: in terms of the the uh uh, the actual evidence
Speaker 2: and allegations against him. Yeah, that's a different person, dude.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. Like, I'm not saying that
Speaker 2: prison doesn't do that to you, but I mean, you
Speaker 2: know that's that's.
Speaker 5: Yeah, A look like he lost a lot of weight, bro,
Speaker 5: because in prison, a lot of people I've never been,
Speaker 5: of course, but I can say a lot.
Speaker 6: Of people have worked out.
Speaker 5: And you know, my brother actually been in and out
Speaker 5: of jail and stuff like that. And when he before
Speaker 5: he went in, he was very skinny. When he came out,
Speaker 5: well just a year, he was huge, And I was like, damn,
Speaker 5: the hell was you doing? He said, You know, all
Speaker 5: he did was work out. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: And you know, you can look at his shirt. Something
Speaker 5: happened to him. You know, there's a reason why his
Speaker 5: attorney took his picture like that. So I mean something. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm starting to see what you're talking about. I was
Speaker 5: pulling up the court documents and reading it and going
Speaker 5: through it and stuff like that. You're very knowledgeable on that.
Speaker 5: So I want to thank you for giving me this
Speaker 5: knowledge on it, because I like history, and I love religion,
Speaker 5: I love mythology, and everything that you talked about goes
Speaker 5: back to some part part of that. I mean, I
Speaker 5: brought up some of the terror cars that you were
Speaker 5: talking about, and they had some of the Egyptian sphinx
Speaker 5: on there. So all that stuff right there is something
Speaker 5: like I said, symbolism plays a big old part in
Speaker 5: our communication. The problem is is we don't have the
Speaker 5: knowledge behind what symbolism means because everybody has their own
Speaker 5: way of.
Speaker 6: Putting it in there.
Speaker 5: It's just like people making up their own new words
Speaker 5: for their own narrative, right, And you have to be
Speaker 5: knowledgeable on their narrative and their words to understand both.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, man, Yeah, I agree as far as like and
Speaker 2: you look at the obvious transformation like I personally knowing
Speaker 2: just the individuals who have been affected by those very
Speaker 2: same techniques, and just like a Jack Ruby for example,
Speaker 2: right where it's like, my god, that that guy was
Speaker 2: obviously visited by Jolly on you know, uh West, doctor
Speaker 2: Jolly West, right, and and one hundred percent after this happens,
Speaker 2: what what occurred with Jack Ruby? Right? And remember when
Speaker 2: Tom O'Neil goes on Rogan and he tells him about
Speaker 2: essentially what it had taken place to Jack Ruby while
Speaker 2: he was in custody. And essentially it was basically a
Speaker 2: well one after Jack Ruby shoots Oswald, right, you have
Speaker 2: reporters who just go to his place in his apartment,
Speaker 2: rummaging around and all his things, uh, you know, and
Speaker 2: uh and a significant number of those those reporters who
Speaker 2: were rummaging around his his uh, his his apartment, they
Speaker 2: all just seemed to later die under very mysterious circumstances
Speaker 2: of course, and and uh. And so it turns out
Speaker 2: that that basically Jolly West when he inserts himself into
Speaker 2: that case. He goes to the Dallas County Jail and
Speaker 2: in April of sixty four, right, and and this is
Speaker 2: to psychologically examine Jack Ruby in preparation for his next trial.
Speaker 2: And this is right when Jack Ruby's like, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: blow the lid off this shit, like, you know, I
Speaker 2: if I'm not going to have a complete and total
Speaker 2: protect Oh yeah, they mk ultra Jack Ruby and and
Speaker 2: so one of and by the way, he's connected to
Speaker 2: the club where Heidi Reich and the White House call Girl,
Speaker 2: and all the individuals who were politically affiliated with the
Speaker 2: JFK assassination. They were partying at this club in Dallas,
Speaker 2: and Jack Ruby was there with Lee Harvey Oswald and
Speaker 2: Officer JD. Tippett one hundred percent and and also like
Speaker 2: there were owners of football teams that were there that
Speaker 2: was Texas oil men like and uh and it was
Speaker 2: very interesting. But but that was all in Phil Stafford's
Speaker 2: book The White House Call Girl. Very interesting book about
Speaker 2: Watergate technically. But but I'll finish this point and they
Speaker 2: get back to the actual conclusion. But the point being
Speaker 2: is that Jack Ruby's willing to talk, right. He's like, Man,
Speaker 2: if I'm going to have to take the fall for this,
Speaker 2: then I'm not going out silent, right. And so one
Speaker 2: of Jolly West known techniques, by the way, was learned
Speaker 2: throughout his research in the fifties, okay, and this was
Speaker 2: how to induce insanity in a person without their knowledge
Speaker 2: or awareness. And so West goes into examine Ruby, and
Speaker 2: he would emerge from the county jail with the press
Speaker 2: waiting for him to give a statement, and he announces
Speaker 2: that within the preceding forty eight hours, Ruby happened to
Speaker 2: have an acute psychotic break that was irrevocable. He couldn't
Speaker 2: return to sanity. He had audio and visual hallucinations, and
Speaker 2: during the exam, he said Ruby hit under a table
Speaker 2: because he thought there were people in the room trying
Speaker 2: to kill him. He told West that he could hear
Speaker 2: Jewish children's scream outside of jail cell as they were
Speaker 2: boiled alive. That alone, I thought was very interesting, and
Speaker 2: so especially when prior to his exam West exam there
Speaker 2: was no evidence whatsoever that Ruby was mentally ill. And
Speaker 2: West was alone with him in the cell and then
Speaker 2: treated him for the next six months. And by the
Speaker 2: time Ruby finally gave his testimony to the Warren Commission,
Speaker 2: he was reportedly babbling and incoherent. He grabbed the investigator
Speaker 2: for the Warren Commission, named Arlen Spector, and he said,
Speaker 2: don't you know they're killing Jews. I can hear them
Speaker 2: being tortured outside my cell. They've killed my brother and
Speaker 2: cut off his legs. They couldn't use anything from Jack
Speaker 2: Ruby's testimony to the Warren Commission. That's the whole, sole
Speaker 2: purpose of what happened to him. In my mind, that
Speaker 2: was induced insanity by Jolly West, who's you know, a
Speaker 2: known operative behind him k Ultra and worked directly under
Speaker 2: doctor Sidney Gottlieb, the black sorcer of m k LTRA himself,
Speaker 2: you know, and and and so yeah, with with man,
Speaker 2: it's it's so fascinating. And I'll finish with with the
Speaker 2: with this really because it's it's basically just that Todd
Speaker 2: Klik was was one hundred percent. I think he was
Speaker 2: deliberately targeted to destroy his reputation and it was all
Speaker 2: due to the fact that he was going to blow
Speaker 2: the lid off of this thing by providing the defense
Speaker 2: for Richard Allen with a key witness who was a
Speaker 2: member of an investigative federal task force investigating odonism. And
Speaker 2: and and that is fascinating to me. So so he
Speaker 2: you know, he basically Richard Allen, right, he expresses ah
Speaker 2: essentially Richard Allen himself. As I mentioned, he's just a
Speaker 2: shell of a human being anymore. And I'm not sure
Speaker 2: what his state of mind is at this point. I
Speaker 2: don't think he's making any statements whatsoever, but I haven't
Speaker 2: yet followed up, so I would like to at this moment,
Speaker 2: but I'm wondering what the latest is on his sort
Speaker 2: of defense attorneys and what they've kind of made public
Speaker 2: as far as their statements, because I'm sure there are
Speaker 2: some you know, more recent and more relevant connections here,
Speaker 2: but basically Richard Allen's defense, you know, they for the
Speaker 2: longest time and still to this day, as far as
Speaker 2: I can tell, have held this belief that it was
Speaker 2: men with ties to Odinism that killed the girls as
Speaker 2: part of a ritual sacrifice. And it's essentially they were
Speaker 2: no longer allowed to bring that information before the jury
Speaker 2: by October fourteenth of twenty twenty four, I believe, and
Speaker 2: that included information the defense may have had on Ronald Logan,
Speaker 2: Keegan Klein, including even like geo fencing data, and McCleland
Speaker 2: objected to Click's assertions, claimed Click may have a history
Speaker 2: of lying. So he instantly starts brings in the notion
Speaker 2: that you know and kind of provides this sort of
Speaker 2: pretext the public perception that this man has no you know,
Speaker 2: real credibility. And so this is the prosecutor McClelland so
Speaker 2: I think prosecutors, you know, what are they known for?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 2: It's like, I don't really think prosecutor's word is worth
Speaker 2: taking at face value, but that's my personal opinion. And
Speaker 2: so he then requests Clicks employment records after he makes
Speaker 2: that public statement, and it was later reported in April
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty four of last year, which that basically
Speaker 2: this is when Francis Gold, the Special Judge, had approved
Speaker 2: Carroll County Prosecutor Nicholas McClelland's motion to get Rushville Police
Speaker 2: Chief Todd Klick's personnel records to discover if he had
Speaker 2: any issues that might impeach his credibility as a witness
Speaker 2: for del Fi murder suspect Richard Allen. That's the path
Speaker 2: you would take if you wanted to undermine the credibility
Speaker 2: of an investigator who who had clearly the what what
Speaker 2: Todd Klick claims is that the UH, the statements that
Speaker 2: had been made claiming that he had made that he
Speaker 2: had essentially lied in former reports that he had made
Speaker 2: or filed were all just deliberately manufactured lies in order
Speaker 2: to undermine his for that sole purpose, to undermine his credibility.
Speaker 2: And and so this is where after they they get
Speaker 2: a hold of his personnel records, then this is when
Speaker 2: you have sort of this UH Clicks investigation into the
Speaker 2: Olderness being involved in the killings of the Delphi teenagers.
Speaker 2: Obviously uh being entirely just disregarded by the the court judge,
Speaker 2: by the judge who was presiding over the trial itself,
Speaker 2: and the prosecutor then indicates that they believed Clicks employee
Speaker 2: records would show and this before they even looked at them,
Speaker 2: would show into of untruthfulness or credibility issues. So they're
Speaker 2: just laying the bread crumbs for anyone who's following along
Speaker 2: with the reporting on this trial. And so in the
Speaker 2: subpoena that ordered the so there was a motion right
Speaker 2: that was included in the subpoena that ordered the Rushville
Speaker 2: Police chief to turn over the documents, and according to
Speaker 2: these online records, Francis Goull, the judge, signed the court
Speaker 2: order for the subpoena, and Rushville Police Chief Todd Klick,
Speaker 2: member of the Odinism Investigative Unit, formed in twenty eighteen
Speaker 2: just after the killings and an expected key defense witness
Speaker 2: in the Delphi murders trial, was subsequently arrested and charged
Speaker 2: by Ripley County authorities with forgery, official misconduct, and obstruction
Speaker 2: of a child abuse assessment while working as a family
Speaker 2: case manager with the Department of Child Services from July
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three to March twenty twenty four. And that
Speaker 2: was when Judge Francis Goule used that as an opportunity
Speaker 2: to block all testimony about odinism during the trial virtual Allen.
Speaker 2: So that's all that it took. We we burn Todd
Speaker 2: Klick at the stake, right, we've already effectively managed Greg
Speaker 2: Ferency's dead right. The other investigator, Kevin Murphy, I believe
Speaker 2: was his name. He I think he saw the writing
Speaker 2: on the wall. You know. He basically says, man, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna keep my mouth shut. I know what's good for me,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Honestly, that's what it seems like.
Speaker 2: Because I would like to look further into if he
Speaker 2: has had any kind of like uh, just just sort
Speaker 2: of like ethical right grappling with his moral foundation in
Speaker 2: certain aspects of how he dealt with this and and
Speaker 2: uh and has come forward with any statement. I would
Speaker 2: be be very curious to find if if that would
Speaker 2: have been the case. But who knows. As far as
Speaker 2: I know, Kevin Murphy's just kept his mouth shut from
Speaker 2: that moment on and and and as far as the
Speaker 2: I'm I'm, for one, very skeptical of the charges being
Speaker 2: levied against former investigator Todd click Man. I mean, I
Speaker 2: think that this was a strategic undermining of his personal
Speaker 2: credibility while you can sort of simultaneously provide the pretext
Speaker 2: for the judge to block all the testimony regarding the
Speaker 2: clear and obvious Odinus connections. And the initial hearing was held,
Speaker 2: it was in October of last year, right, and that's
Speaker 2: when you had Todd Klick. He was released on an
Speaker 2: or you know, because he didn't have any I mean,
Speaker 2: he didn't have any character issues, Like what are we
Speaker 2: talking about? This guy was a member of a task
Speaker 2: force for a reason, because you know, it's like not
Speaker 2: saying that all federal investigators are are moral or anything
Speaker 2: of that nature. I'm just saying that usually you aren't
Speaker 2: named to a task force unless you're compromised and your
Speaker 2: sole purpose is to sort of provide a misdirected narrative
Speaker 2: or or at least control the framework of the investigation.
Speaker 2: You know, or you're you're undoubtedly, uh, some sort of
Speaker 2: honorable individual investigator who is trustworthy and and you know,
Speaker 2: worthy enough of being placed onto an investigative task force
Speaker 2: of that of this kind, and that they would have
Speaker 2: so so much, uh you know, as far as the
Speaker 2: consequences the implication of the consequences involved in in that
Speaker 2: very investigation, That's how how I would feel at the least.
Speaker 2: And and so you have him being released on an
Speaker 2: o R. And the pre trial hearing was just a
Speaker 2: you know, as far as it's a total joke, and
Speaker 2: his actual trial date was set for in February, right,
Speaker 2: and then, yeah, Todd Klick was an innocent man. And
Speaker 2: so I think they've just forced him into retirement is
Speaker 2: basically what happened. And and and for me personally, you know,
Speaker 2: I think this is uh, this is evidence of kind
Speaker 2: of the inverted moral landscape that we perfectly reside in
Speaker 2: at this moment. And I think so much of what
Speaker 2: like the uh the sort of I think there's an
Speaker 2: inherent exploitation of the God whole within all of us,
Speaker 2: you know, whatever you believe that to be or however
Speaker 2: you describe that in your own uh you know, kind
Speaker 2: of personal just the terms you would prefer to utilize. Uh,
Speaker 2: you know, I think it's fundamentally we all are trying
Speaker 2: to make sense of this in a desperate way, you know,
Speaker 2: in a way to where we're relying on these principles
Speaker 2: that many of us have yet to fully identify and
Speaker 2: acknowledge and under and become aware of, just as far
Speaker 2: as what are the ethical values worthwhile to pursue an
Speaker 2: exercise to to add to my what I believe as
Speaker 2: the core values worth upholding in my life, and and uh,
Speaker 2: and therefore you become, you become susceptible and vulnerable to
Speaker 2: this new wage, esoteric ideological system of control in an
Speaker 2: attempt to usher us into this trap of embracing these
Speaker 2: new age values that I believe are entirely in the
Speaker 2: framework of this you know, deliberately and deceptively manufactured inverted
Speaker 2: moral landscape. And here we are, you know, we're surrounded
Speaker 2: by the pedophile elite, you know, And I mean we're
Speaker 2: attempting and every four years we're we're basically convinced that
Speaker 2: we have a part to play in the system, you know.
Speaker 2: And it's just to me. I think what we should
Speaker 2: focus on most is our own personal well being and
Speaker 2: our own legitimate core values and our own personal individual
Speaker 2: lives and surrounding ourselves with people who I think bring
Speaker 2: the best out on you. And you know, that is
Speaker 2: what I'm desperate to do, is surround myself with people
Speaker 2: who I admire and I can learn from, you know, honestly, guys,
Speaker 2: and and so anyway, at this point, I'm just I
Speaker 2: definitely believe that that this was a deliberate attempt to
Speaker 2: obscure the vision of the general public, right and and yeah,
Speaker 2: I think that this this an example and another window
Speaker 2: into the darkest layers of modern society, man and and
Speaker 2: we're largely remaining in the shadows, right And you mentioned earlier, Uh,
Speaker 2: you know, we we talked about mana and and this
Speaker 2: sort of even potential cannibalistic nature of some of these
Speaker 2: uh you know, blood sacrifices, or at the very least
Speaker 2: these sort of ceremonial, symbolic exercises that at least kind
Speaker 2: of lend their the the entire ceremony to the idea.
Speaker 2: And thisymbolic nature of the blood sacrifice. I think it's uh,
Speaker 2: it's just to me, man like, it is very very
Speaker 2: strange time that we're living in right at this moment,
Speaker 2: and and it's up to us to remain headstrong, honestly,
Speaker 2: because I think these individuals that that I view as
Speaker 2: through that same lens of of know your enemy, right,
Speaker 2: I mean, the the are we all? I believe we
Speaker 2: all share a common enemy, right, and and and this
Speaker 2: common enemy is possessed with you know, honestly the darkest ambitions,
Speaker 2: and and and the vast majority are are very unaware,
Speaker 2: I believe, and so so personally, I just think that
Speaker 2: the more conversations we can have where we attempt to
Speaker 2: shine a light in the darkness, makes sense of of
Speaker 2: what actually took place potentially, you know. I mean again,
Speaker 2: I view this as a far more plausible alternative theory
Speaker 2: than that of the mainstream narrative. Right, and so that's
Speaker 2: the profound as far as in my mind, there's this
Speaker 2: inverted moral landscape. It's essentially it leaves us with this
Speaker 2: profound sense of righteous indignation in a certain way. And
Speaker 2: I think that's good, you know. I think that we
Speaker 2: shouldn't be content with the current structured system in place,
Speaker 2: but also we shouldn't let it destroy us, because what
Speaker 2: is the intention to set us on the path of
Speaker 2: ideological subversion? And what is the first stage demoralization?
Speaker 6: Man?
Speaker 2: And so I try and steer away from that, I
Speaker 2: think there is beauty in conversations such as this, which
Speaker 2: I mentioned at the beginning, provides me with the real,
Speaker 2: honest sense of hope moving forward. So, yeah, man, I'm
Speaker 2: entirely under the under the impression that you know, this was, yeah,
Speaker 2: this was a legitimate cover up that essentially, you know,
Speaker 2: it shrouded the actual just intentions behind the ritualized murder
Speaker 2: and blood sacrifice and the belief system that is sort
Speaker 2: of standing tall behind the actual details of the criminal
Speaker 2: case and how the bodies were discovered in every aspect
Speaker 2: of it, and that has now been entirely set aside
Speaker 2: and ignored, and it's not even a part of the
Speaker 2: official narrative. And so that in itself, I felt like,
Speaker 2: drew me to this story because where again intended to
Speaker 2: remain in the darkness and unaware of this sort of
Speaker 2: real power paradigm, you know how it kind of functions.
Speaker 2: So anyway, I don't know, it blows my mind this case,
Speaker 2: I'll be honest, And it's unfortunate that And oh yeah,
Speaker 2: I found something else about Oh yeah, I had discovered
Speaker 2: that there was a free Masonic cemetery very nearby that
Speaker 2: that death ritual site of Abby and Libby, and I
Speaker 2: forgot the name of it. I should have brought it.
Speaker 2: I forgot it till just now. I should have brought
Speaker 2: this source with me, because if I would have remembered,
Speaker 2: I would have pulled it. But but there is a
Speaker 2: free Masonic cemetery, a private cemetery that is like eerily
Speaker 2: close to the area of where Abby and Libby were sacrificed,
Speaker 2: and that again kind of lends a little bit more
Speaker 2: of credibility to the idea that maybe Ronald Logan and
Speaker 2: you know, was entirely you know, connected to this Vnlander
Speaker 2: group and the individuals involved in the local chapter. And
Speaker 2: especially when you look at let me pull this up
Speaker 2: because this is fascinating and it's the picture I wanted
Speaker 2: to share with you guys before we get out of here,
Speaker 2: and that is it kind of blows me away. Let's see,
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. All right, let's see if I can
Speaker 2: share this. There you go, buddy, Now look at this guy.
Speaker 2: This is what William Ramsay sent me basically saying that
Speaker 2: this could be the bridge guy and this is one
Speaker 2: of the the sketches composite scam. He looks really close,
Speaker 2: very close right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, like you can't even like with the hoodie and
Speaker 6: the hat. Yeah, you definitely couldn't be able to.
Speaker 2: And then look at this, this is him. Oh shit,
Speaker 2: so thirty three baby, Yeah, so somebody sent me this
Speaker 2: that picture and they said hey, brother, and was just
Speaker 2: telling me I did well with William and then sent
Speaker 2: me this. I believe it was posted literally thirty three
Speaker 2: days after the killing of Abby and Libby, so that
Speaker 2: in itself crazy. This was posted on Brad Holder's Facebook
Speaker 2: page thirty three days after the actual deaths of Abby
Speaker 2: and Libby. Along with the symbolic nature of the ruins
Speaker 2: that they were posting and the crime scene photo portrait
Speaker 2: that they posted that at least resembled directly that of
Speaker 2: the crime scene, then I believe this was Brad Holder
Speaker 2: was was potentially the bridge guy. And I think that
Speaker 2: this had to have been an initiatory, you know, ritual sacrifice.
Speaker 2: I don't know how else you could kind of explain
Speaker 2: it away.
Speaker 1: But let's not forget that the G and you know,
Speaker 1: a sonic symbol, the letter G is number seven of THEE.
Speaker 2: So seven again, my god, that that's just crazy to me.
Speaker 2: And but yeah, we are now left with the consequential
Speaker 2: outcome being that Richard Allen is the sole perpetrator, right,
Speaker 2: and that he had no affiliation with odinism.
Speaker 5: They even got that picture on on uh on Wikipedia?
Speaker 3: Do they really?
Speaker 6: Yeah, they got that picture on Wikipedia. I just pulled
Speaker 6: it up.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: It's uh wow, it's crazy. Yeah. And that's just too identical.
Speaker 5: Man, that's just way way too identical, at least telling
Speaker 5: you to like that's crazy.
Speaker 2: I just couldn't. I couldn't at every level. I was convinced. Man,
Speaker 2: I'll be one hundred percent. Uh yeah, I'm convinced that that.
Speaker 2: I feel like we named the perpetrators that murdered Abby
Speaker 2: and Libby today. I honestly do. And you know the
Speaker 2: fact that these individuals are are insulated from any real
Speaker 2: accountability and still remain, you know, outside of any objective
Speaker 2: pursuit of justice.
Speaker 3: It just bugged out, even the hat and everything, dude, man,
Speaker 3: just like it does.
Speaker 6: Man, That's what I'm saying. Hey, let me ask you something, bro.
Speaker 5: Have you ever tried to contact him at the correctional
Speaker 5: facility in Oklahoma?
Speaker 2: I have not, man, I just uh, I honestly I
Speaker 2: probably should, right, I.
Speaker 5: Try to look his I try to look him up
Speaker 5: on there, they say that he transferred over there. But
Speaker 5: when you try to type in his name and his
Speaker 5: birthdate and all that stuff into the to the correction facility.
Speaker 6: It says there's nobody there.
Speaker 5: And then of course on the top it says a
Speaker 5: little small fine print, you know, it says, you know,
Speaker 5: they're updating their stuff.
Speaker 6: And blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 5: But I mean he's been there for a minute now,
Speaker 5: so they should have been done, had his up So yeah,
Speaker 5: something they right. And then then the question is is
Speaker 5: why did they transfer him in the first place, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean, why did they transfer him?
Speaker 6: What was the point of transferm Was it for his safety?
Speaker 5: Was it because he was going to do some things
Speaker 5: that you know, people were going to get catch notice
Speaker 5: of it. You know, when you transfer somebody you don't
Speaker 5: necessarily have to update that information in there quick.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: You could just you can wait till the day they
Speaker 5: die and updated and then say this east one.
Speaker 2: Hundred percent man, yeap that it doesn't feel right to
Speaker 2: me at all, and especially just after hearing that he
Speaker 2: was transferred, I instantly, you know, a red flag went
Speaker 2: up in my mind, right, just it doesn't tend to
Speaker 2: happen for no reason, right, and especially considering the abuse
Speaker 2: he allegedly endured during the time that at Westville. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it only adds more to to sort of the substance
Speaker 2: of what potentially could be happening theoretically to Richard Allen.
Speaker 2: I mean, how do you keep someone silent? How do
Speaker 2: you hide someone away for right, convict them, give them
Speaker 2: the maximum sentence for each charge, right that you possibly
Speaker 2: can essentially force them to remain silent throughout the trial.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's honestly, it's crazy. How what a
Speaker 2: sort of miscarriage of justice this really truly was in
Speaker 2: terms of Richard Allen and how his defense attorneys were treated.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I do believe that mcclealand the prosecutor
Speaker 2: was entirely compromised. And we know that that obviously. You
Speaker 2: know the detective was it Holloway or I can't remember now,
Speaker 2: but either way, the detective, who was clearly the leading
Speaker 2: one of the leading members on the the the unified command,
Speaker 2: was obviously compromised as well. Right, And so that in
Speaker 2: my mind, beyond the fact that Francis Gould, the judge
Speaker 2: did everything in her power to sort of stand directly
Speaker 2: in front of of as far as she was, she
Speaker 2: was making sure that she would she would take every
Speaker 2: single precautionary measure in order to make sure that none
Speaker 2: of this evidence would come forward and none of it
Speaker 2: would ever become public in terms of the individual jurors
Speaker 2: being exposed to it, let alone the defense having the
Speaker 2: ability to you know, to utilize it. So how can
Speaker 2: you actually defend Richard Allen if you can't provide the
Speaker 2: odinism defense? Oh yeah, right, yeah, I mean there's no way.
Speaker 2: So that was all they had to successfully achieve, and
Speaker 2: I think they did, you know, honestly, So I'm not
Speaker 2: at all really surprised due to the fact that I
Speaker 2: just understanding the historical context of how they pursue these
Speaker 2: cover ups and also the consequential outcomes of some of
Speaker 2: the most sadistic networks that seem to have state sponsorship.
Speaker 2: There's a hidden hand of intelligence that is clearly propping
Speaker 2: them up, putting them into these positions where they are
Speaker 2: insulated from accountability. And it's just to me, it's another
Speaker 2: window into this sort of occult underground that you know,
Speaker 2: is deliberately kept in the shadows. I mean, they would
Speaker 2: really appreciate if we weren't initiated as far as our
Speaker 2: understanding and ability to interpret the motivation, the the the
Speaker 2: sort of intention behind many of these events. And because
Speaker 2: if you aren't even willing to have an open mind
Speaker 2: and consider the idea that a ritualistic sacrifice would be
Speaker 2: a part of these murders, then good luck solve in
Speaker 2: this crime, you know what I mean, Like it's that's
Speaker 2: legitimately how it is. And so if you have the
Speaker 2: general public dismissing this at face value due to the
Speaker 2: extraordinary nature of the allegations themselves, that's a strategic outcome
Speaker 2: in itself if you're attempting to cover up right and
Speaker 2: and and I think that happens so often, And then
Speaker 2: they also are aware of the idea of layering using
Speaker 2: it in a layered strategic way to where most of
Speaker 2: the general public will and inherently sort of dismissed these
Speaker 2: these more extraordinary allegations if they are on you know,
Speaker 2: unaware of these connections and these unfortunate organizations that do
Speaker 2: exist that pursue these these uh just obvious people are
Speaker 2: unaware that it never ends with just human trafficking, right.
Speaker 2: It always the enterprise is wide in scope, you know,
Speaker 2: and you have organ harvesting and and you know, every
Speaker 2: single layer to this is it's a criminal enterprise where
Speaker 2: it all blends together basically targeted assassinations, you know, and
Speaker 2: human compromise, sexual black male satanic ritual abuse. Right. I mean,
Speaker 2: at every level, there's there's truth to all of this,
Speaker 2: and it's been i think conveniently and strategically. You know,
Speaker 2: there's been these sort of I think these very much
Speaker 2: misdirected just kind of mechanisms that were very much like
Speaker 2: laid into these strategic positions in order for the general
Speaker 2: public not to be able to come to terms with
Speaker 2: any of these ideas in a way where it seems
Speaker 2: like you can remain credible. And I think that's the issue,
Speaker 2: is that so many people, if you discuss something from
Speaker 2: this angle, they're concerned about being dismissed and their credibility
Speaker 2: taking a hit. And I think that's a huge mistake.
Speaker 2: You know, it's obviously I think one of the reasons
Speaker 2: that this sort of preconceived notion has been very much
Speaker 2: conditioned into the minds of the general public, and it's
Speaker 2: for that purpose, you know, So I'm just very yeah,
Speaker 2: go ahead.
Speaker 1: No, I'm sorry. Before I forget exactly what you just
Speaker 1: said right now, I wanted to kind of capitalize them
Speaker 1: exactly what you said and kind of highlight what you said.
Speaker 1: And Nick has mentioned this before in other episodes, and
Speaker 1: we've kind of mentioned it when we cover some of
Speaker 1: this true crime stuff. If you want to look at
Speaker 1: each end visual true crime situation, and everything is so questioned,
Speaker 1: everything is so questionable. One thing, one resounding theme you
Speaker 1: will see is that all the characters in the story
Speaker 1: are polarizing. You literally have a camp on either side
Speaker 1: of every single character in any true crime story. And
Speaker 1: I do believe that is on purpose. I do believe
Speaker 1: that there are characters as in a reality show. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that these that didn't happen. I'm saying this
Speaker 1: is probably the ultimate what is it? Reality TV? And
Speaker 1: if you look at specifically with the Delphi, they're wanting
Speaker 1: to bring cameras into the courtroom. They're wanting to televise
Speaker 1: what's being said. Why Because so much money is being
Speaker 1: made off of the true crime industry, whether it is podcasts,
Speaker 1: whether it is gofundmes, whether it is anything. I mean,
Speaker 1: I had heard that a lot of people had driven
Speaker 1: to Delphi, Indiana just to look at the site, so
Speaker 1: that not only money and tourism as well. And you're
Speaker 1: about cornering a market that had yet to ever be explored.
Speaker 1: And now you're making bank regardless of who it is,
Speaker 1: regardless of what angle it is. And then you're now
Speaker 1: also having these what is it called expert witnesses that
Speaker 1: for all of these high profile cases. Someone mentions in
Speaker 1: the chat about the false memory loftus he has literally
Speaker 1: been in Gieslaine Maxwell's things. She's also worked on other
Speaker 1: cases as well. There it's escaping right now. But if
Speaker 1: you look at the form the firm that she worked for,
Speaker 1: that firm also was expert witnesses in other serial killer
Speaker 1: or mass in mass type true crime cases. And so
Speaker 1: you and then you think, well, is this all by design?
Speaker 1: Will if you look at the research that some of
Speaker 1: these psychologists or some of these forensic people are looking into,
Speaker 1: it's a public perception. It's way the public how can
Speaker 1: we put this into the zeitgeist and kind of sway opinion?
Speaker 1: And we're now seeing the court of public opinion on
Speaker 1: stage as an actual person or character alongside the jury,
Speaker 1: really anything even more vocal than the jury itself. So
Speaker 1: I do think that exactly what you just said that,
Speaker 1: I do think that that also be in the back
Speaker 1: of our mind that this is potentially being woven for
Speaker 1: us as well from.
Speaker 4: Someone Sometimes I wonder, like what you're pointing, at least
Speaker 4: you know you'll see that also kind of like carry over.
Speaker 4: I know this isn't gonna sound the greatest, but you'll
Speaker 4: see that carry over into politics and conspiracies.
Speaker 3: And I think it's giving.
Speaker 4: People the delusion that if they think they know something
Speaker 4: and they're saying it on the internet, it changes and
Speaker 4: it's not going to change shit.
Speaker 6: Right, Bro.
Speaker 5: That's why there's so many damn arguments because they exactly
Speaker 5: and then the funny thing is when you try to
Speaker 5: correct them and give them a little bit of knowledge
Speaker 5: or at least a little bit to help them on
Speaker 5: their journey to they didn't want to, you know, say
Speaker 5: all kinds of negative things to you, and I just
Speaker 5: that's that's when I turn into the Jerry Springer Show.
Speaker 2: I love it, but they always attack the messenger though, brother,
Speaker 2: I know that much. That's how I've experienced in my
Speaker 2: time as far as just my personal it is hilarious
Speaker 2: how like the individuals you know and love and should,
Speaker 2: you know, should kind of like understand that you have
Speaker 2: their well being at heart, that you're considering that at
Speaker 2: the very least there are. So it's interesting how much
Speaker 2: people are far more open minded to learning from perfect
Speaker 2: strangers than actually legitimately open mindedly considering ideas from individuals
Speaker 2: they know and love, right, Because it's just a funny
Speaker 2: sort of situation to find yourself in. But I've learned
Speaker 2: that over time obviously, like I'm not responsible for anyone
Speaker 2: else else's sort of path, you know, in terms of
Speaker 2: I feel like you have to you have to kind
Speaker 2: of expose yourself to these ideas on your own terms,
Speaker 2: because if not, then I think it's always going to
Speaker 2: be sort of kill the messenger in a way, right,
Speaker 2: because you are now kind of shaking their entire structured
Speaker 2: ideological framework of how society functions. And that's terrifying because
Speaker 2: what happens when that veil falls to the way side.
Speaker 2: You're no longer a naive child who's engaging in this
Speaker 2: sort of cartoonish black and white version of reality. You're
Speaker 2: starting to see the deeper layers of things. You either
Speaker 2: you kind of decide you choose to do one of
Speaker 2: two things. You either slam your head back into the
Speaker 2: sand or run away kicking and screaming, or you continue
Speaker 2: forward and pursue that path of objectively, you know, finding
Speaker 2: the truth, and like you will only I think benefit
Speaker 2: in the long run if you have a decent moral
Speaker 2: foundation and certain ethical principles strongly in place. I think
Speaker 2: you only benefit in the long run from pursuing that
Speaker 2: objective truth. But yes, so very often I just witness,
Speaker 2: you know, people sort of they get very frustrated and
Speaker 2: upset and don't know how to defend their own sort
Speaker 2: of ideological position, and so then they inherently act out.
Speaker 3: It's kind of fortunately, you know that.
Speaker 5: That's why for me personally, I always if I ever
Speaker 5: say something, I have a source by me, I would
Speaker 5: never say something. And the only reason why is because
Speaker 5: I don't want somebody to believe what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: I want you to.
Speaker 5: Go and read the source that I've read that gave
Speaker 5: me the idea and belief that I have that exactly
Speaker 5: at least gave you the chance, at least giving you
Speaker 5: the chance to come up on that same thing. Now,
Speaker 5: if you have a source that I don't have, I'm
Speaker 5: going to buy that source and I'm going to research it.
Speaker 5: Then I'm going to go in there and break it
Speaker 5: down based off of everything else that I've learned throughout
Speaker 5: my journey. I don't care about being right. Being right
Speaker 5: has nothing to do. I can't prove that I'm right because,
Speaker 5: for one, I can't go in the past and tell
Speaker 5: you what actually happened. I can just go to the
Speaker 5: people who are respected in the field, who have the
Speaker 5: knowledge behind the information, and I'll go there and I say, Okay,
Speaker 5: this is what this person says, and that's it. You know, now,
Speaker 5: if you want my opinion, my opinion is going to change.
Speaker 5: I cannot come up. I don't know how anybody sits
Speaker 5: here and says that they've done so much research and
Speaker 5: they come to.
Speaker 6: One fucking conclusion. How you've read so much shit? Would
Speaker 6: you have one conclusion?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 6: I have thousands of conclusions.
Speaker 5: Of what I because I know what different people have said,
Speaker 5: and I can take what they said and analyze it
Speaker 5: and put my mind and my passion into it and
Speaker 5: bring it to the to the world to say, hey,
Speaker 5: this is not me saying this is what the text say.
Speaker 5: And if you want to know what Texas says comes from,
Speaker 5: I'm giving it to you. That's why you will always
Speaker 5: see me, always, always see me share a source always.
Speaker 5: I will always bring a source. And I've read thousands
Speaker 5: of books. I've have plenty of soorts of peer reviewed articles.
Speaker 5: I have my own book. I stick to the foundation.
Speaker 5: If you don't know the foundation, you can't build a house.
Speaker 6: You just can't.
Speaker 5: So my foundation is what the basics of the information says.
Speaker 5: And I'm going to find the individuals that have that
Speaker 5: information and I'm going to bring it to the world and.
Speaker 8: Say, hey, these are probably the people you want to
Speaker 8: look at.
Speaker 6: Now. This is this is what I like to do
Speaker 6: the most.
Speaker 5: Just because I once read one thing, I'm going to
Speaker 5: find the other thing that counters it, so that way
Speaker 5: I can see what the.
Speaker 6: Hell is in the middle. Because there's three sides of
Speaker 6: the story.
Speaker 5: On their side, there's the other side, and then there's
Speaker 5: the side in the story in the middle. That's what
Speaker 5: I'm coming in. And I'm a libra, so I'm going
Speaker 5: to try to balance that out as.
Speaker 8: Much as possible. Okay, you're right, Okay, now you're wrong,
Speaker 8: now you're right, and now you're wrong.
Speaker 5: And I'm gonna keep shifting it until I come to
Speaker 5: an understanding for myself. Now, what i believe is based
Speaker 5: off the information that I've learned, you know, exactly learned
Speaker 5: what I've learned.
Speaker 6: You have to go through the same shoes that I
Speaker 6: did to get there, you.
Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying, So to say the same thing. Man, Honestly,
Speaker 2: I've created for quite some time now, I've said all
Speaker 2: that I bring to the table, are you know legitimate
Speaker 2: sources that have convinced me otherwise?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 2: And so all that I ask are you know? If
Speaker 2: you're one, if you're interested, you would like to dig further,
Speaker 2: you would like to attempt to corroborate some of the
Speaker 2: evidence I put forward, and like go to the sources
Speaker 2: that I mentioned, uh and and definitely breed through them yourself,
Speaker 2: because I wouldn't have brought it to the table if
Speaker 2: I hadn't been fully convinced otherwise through this kind of
Speaker 2: avenue of you know, accumulating these various sources that that
Speaker 2: provided me with this far more plausible alternative theory. And
Speaker 2: that's all I'm doing. I'm hoping that people will see
Speaker 2: that this is what changed my mind. And that's the
Speaker 2: reason I'm bringing it to the table is because I
Speaker 2: think it's profound and and uh and also I think
Speaker 2: it's very important to to not have this sort of
Speaker 2: ultimate uh at least agenda. I don't really have an agenda.
Speaker 2: I'm just attempting to pursue the truth man, and sure
Speaker 2: that it's like you want to go along the ride
Speaker 2: with me, because I would love That's.
Speaker 1: No, your your opinion has if you're doing research, and
Speaker 1: you're really doing research, your stance has to evolve. It
Speaker 1: has evolved. If it does not evolve, your on you
Speaker 1: might as well just give it up now, because that
Speaker 1: is a purpose, is to evolve in your stance. And
Speaker 1: exactly what I said, some of these older scientific articles
Speaker 1: that you look back and that are so well done,
Speaker 1: they have exactly that. In their discussion. They give you
Speaker 1: their results, but then they present the papers that are
Speaker 1: that basically support their data, and they also provide papers
Speaker 1: that don't support their data, and then kind of towards
Speaker 1: the end they give an analysis of why they think
Speaker 1: the papers that did support their data said that, and
Speaker 1: why the papers that didn't support their papers may have
Speaker 1: said that as well, So it's it's a very balanced
Speaker 1: delivery of a discussion of based.
Speaker 5: Not on Yeah, you know what I always tell people
Speaker 5: I see everybody. A lot of people says, Oh, you
Speaker 5: just want to be right, rebirth, you just want to
Speaker 5: be right. I don't want to be right. I want
Speaker 5: to be wrong. And I tell you why I like
Speaker 5: to be wrong. It's because I learned better being wrong.
Speaker 5: I learned from my mistakes, and I don't want to
Speaker 5: repeat the same studidshit that I said before. If you
Speaker 5: get the source that counter is what I said and
Speaker 5: it's accurate, I'm going to be like, Okay, damn shit,
Speaker 5: I was wrong. Well I was wrong, my source was wrong.
Speaker 5: So now I know better. So next time I can say, Okay,
Speaker 5: this is what I've learned, and this was what this
Speaker 5: person taught me. Afterwards, It's not about being right for me,
Speaker 5: it's just about gaining knowledge. If I if i'm I
Speaker 5: can't live in a bubble. I can't live in the
Speaker 5: bubble thinking that one thing is right. That's why I
Speaker 5: like to read something that goes with what I learned,
Speaker 5: and then I like to read something that goes against it.
Speaker 5: So I'm reading the counter argument, and I'm reading many
Speaker 5: of these counter arguments, and I'm finding the people.
Speaker 8: Who argue with each other right the people.
Speaker 6: A lot of people don't realize this.
Speaker 5: In the Greek times, there was a time where they
Speaker 5: would go to the middle of the city or some
Speaker 5: area and they would and two people would have a discussion,
Speaker 5: and they will be arguments.
Speaker 6: They would curse at each other, they would.
Speaker 5: Tell each other stupid, and this, that and third, and
Speaker 5: then the next day they would go back there and
Speaker 5: then they would have that same discussion and they would say, well,
Speaker 5: did you look up what I told you or did
Speaker 5: you do your due diligence from that? And if you
Speaker 5: don't do your due diligence, then you're only just trying
Speaker 5: to create a narrative for people to believe what you believe.
Speaker 5: I don't want people to believe what I believe, because
Speaker 5: I'm telling you you're not going to be able to
Speaker 5: believe what I believe, because it's going to change daily.
Speaker 5: Every time I pick up a damn book, my mind
Speaker 5: goes from regular to exploding. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: because I can't figure out what the hell I had
Speaker 5: one idea just two three days ago, two three months ago,
Speaker 5: two three years ago, I read something that totally changed that.
Speaker 5: Now I'm back in, going back to the beginning with everything.
Speaker 5: But I love that because it tells me that, hey,
Speaker 5: I'm involving, just likely to say I'm involved, I'm taking knowledge,
Speaker 5: and I'm saying, okay, I learned this two three years ago.
Speaker 6: It wasn't correct, and let me go ahead.
Speaker 5: And that's why I like a lot of revised books,
Speaker 5: because if you read the revised books, and I give
Speaker 5: you a perfect example, a lot of people talk about
Speaker 5: Darwinism them a lot don't realize that Darwin revised his.
Speaker 6: Books over and over again, and he's died.
Speaker 5: And if you're picking one thing out is out of
Speaker 5: his book that you're going to create a narrative on,
Speaker 5: I can go to a revised version be like, shit,
Speaker 5: he did say he messed up there, So what's your
Speaker 5: point now?
Speaker 2: So absolutely I admire that, and that's that's a beautiful
Speaker 2: characteristic to embrace honestly and live by. I appreciate any
Speaker 2: time any because you can't have, as I mentioned, an
Speaker 2: agenda to be right. That doesn't even make sense, you know,
Speaker 2: And and so my entire goal is just to once
Speaker 2: again somehow make sense of it for myself, right, And
Speaker 2: and through that process I hope to discover the objective truth, Right,
Speaker 2: that's the goal. And so I'm always attempting to consider
Speaker 2: the counter argument, as you mentioned before, and and because
Speaker 2: if you if you aren't giving yourself a well rounded
Speaker 2: picture of the full spectrum, right, the broad scope of things,
Speaker 2: then you're limiting your vision and perspective. You're not going
Speaker 2: to have the ability to engage in an honest way
Speaker 2: in the first place, because you're at a disadvantage inherently
Speaker 2: so that you've you put yourself in that position, right,
Speaker 2: And we're all in that position anyway, we're all under
Speaker 2: agnowled as far as like we're all there's so many
Speaker 2: things that we've all yet been exposed to you have
Speaker 2: yet to be exposed to, I mean, right, And and that
Speaker 2: in itself leaves us at a disadvantage. But all we
Speaker 2: can hope for is to remain sort of centered and
Speaker 2: grounded in a way to where we are acknowledging that
Speaker 2: fact and moving forward, you know, understanding that there's so
Speaker 2: much more for me to learn here. But still I
Speaker 2: think that in terms of these these like the example
Speaker 2: of Delphi itself, right, if you, I think it takes
Speaker 2: getting yourself to to kind of like you have to
Speaker 2: already be digging below the surface at a deeper layer
Speaker 2: of understanding before you're even willing to engage with a
Speaker 2: case such as this. And from the angle that we're taking,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, I think that that I
Speaker 2: stumble across many of those people. But fortunately for us,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of sloppy psychological operation is happening all
Speaker 2: over the place, you know, at all times. And you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, I.
Speaker 4: Think, right, so you've got too many going on, they're
Speaker 4: getting sloppy about it.
Speaker 2: One hundred and so more and more people from all
Speaker 2: walks of the political spectrum are becoming more willing to,
Speaker 2: you know, at least engage in certain more open minded
Speaker 2: conversation than I've seen previously. I do appreciate that, and
Speaker 2: I think that, you know, maybe that is a sign
Speaker 2: for optimism at the very least, you know. But at
Speaker 2: the same time, it's like, once again, I'm not responsible
Speaker 2: for any of that. It's just, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm just here hoping for the best, expecting the worst
Speaker 2: most of the time, and that's not that's not a
Speaker 2: black pill. I just think it's a little bit of
Speaker 2: being realistic in a certain sense, just as far as
Speaker 2: holding out a hope for political puppets and things of
Speaker 2: that nature is just you know, to me ignorant. You know,
Speaker 2: you've yet to learn from your previous mistakes, right and
Speaker 2: and uh and so I'm grateful that I can opt
Speaker 2: out of this and kind of distance myself from feeling
Speaker 2: as if I play a direct part in the consequential
Speaker 2: outcome and the nature of the current state of reality
Speaker 2: and the power paradigm itself. Like and we're all kind
Speaker 2: of just children waking up in the middle of a
Speaker 2: movie theater, right, like trying to figure out the plot
Speaker 2: that's honestly way into the movie.
Speaker 1: Right Yeah, Yeah, we're all children still at the chalkboard
Speaker 1: trying to learn our alphabet this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. And I put it in when I was
Speaker 2: on Nefluindes squad the other day. They asked me because
Speaker 2: I've been like, I think I've just been one. I
Speaker 2: think I've just been probably over I think I've been one.
Speaker 2: I've been having too many of these, Like, first of all,
Speaker 2: I've been remaining on this path of investigation into certain
Speaker 2: out trafficking networks. I've spent too much time bogged down
Speaker 2: and the disgusting, uh you know, disturbing details of the
Speaker 2: cases and things of that nature, and it has an
Speaker 2: overall emotional toll. It legitimately does, and you have to,
Speaker 2: like for your own well being, pivot away to different
Speaker 2: directions of interest and and and and uh and pursue
Speaker 2: other avenues of thought because it I remember, uh and
Speaker 2: Raven put it as I sort of gazed into the abyss,
Speaker 2: that sort of situation and all that all that it
Speaker 2: reminded me of was eight Millimeter, the film by Nicholas
Speaker 2: Cage n right, so crazy, and it kind of introduces
Speaker 2: the concept of a snuff flash today.
Speaker 3: I remember that as a kid, probably disturbing brother.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh and but but gosh, I mean, like,
Speaker 2: the the issue is that snuff films have been essentially
Speaker 2: labeled as an and mischaracterized as an urban myth for
Speaker 2: how long. I mean, it's just laughable at this point, right,
Speaker 2: And and that that kind of fits perfectly with the
Speaker 2: manufactured uh you know, sort of satanic panic hysteria, attempt
Speaker 2: to to miss label and misdiagnose and misdirect the true
Speaker 2: uh truly occurring and legitimately, you know, at least I
Speaker 2: think there's plenty of evidence that proves that real satanic
Speaker 2: ritual abuse has occurred, you know, and and uh, they
Speaker 2: say they satanic panic was sort of just this way
Speaker 2: to uh, you know, clearly sort of you know, I
Speaker 2: think the point was to obviously create this this uh
Speaker 2: really this manufactured misconception. I think that that was the
Speaker 2: ultimate agenda there, and it sort of falls in line
Speaker 2: with the concept of serial killers at this point as well,
Speaker 2: I think personally. But but uh, it's this manufactured misconception
Speaker 2: that was the conveniently constructed uh, satanic panic excuse and
Speaker 2: just an oversimplification of mass hysteria and and in reality,
Speaker 2: eight millimeter The reason that I brought it up because
Speaker 2: it reminded me that one, this is what I do
Speaker 2: love about sort of you know, having a fictional narrative
Speaker 2: be extremely valuable in terms of introducing the public to
Speaker 2: the notion that snuff films exist and and eight millimeter
Speaker 2: film strips are how effectively these pedophile networks can circumvent
Speaker 2: being discovered through shipping child pornography through the mail. And
Speaker 2: so if you keep them as undeveloped eight eight millimeter
Speaker 2: film strips, then they will not be able to discover
Speaker 2: what's on the film, and therefore you can sort of
Speaker 2: circumvent the legal process and and distribute child pornography. And
Speaker 2: so I didn't realize that until recently. But in uh,
Speaker 2: in watching that movie, there's a scene right where where
Speaker 2: Joaquin Phoenix is a character in the in the movie,
Speaker 2: and he basically works at a porn shop and he's
Speaker 2: behind the counter, and he behind the counter like he
Speaker 2: has he has the uh. He essentially is selling things
Speaker 2: behind the count below, you know, under the table, behind
Speaker 2: the counter. He'll sell things on behalf of the criminal
Speaker 2: enterprise that's participating in let's say, child pornography or ritualistic abuse,
Speaker 2: snuff films, things of that nature. And I will remember
Speaker 2: when he took him to this sort of this underground
Speaker 2: pedophile establishment where there's all these rooms where they're screening
Speaker 2: these snuff films and these child pornography films, and he
Speaker 2: takes Nicholas Cage there, who's basically this private investigator who
Speaker 2: got hired by this elitist, a widow woman who she
Speaker 2: just became a widow her husband was a kind of
Speaker 2: a member of a higher echelon of society. She had
Speaker 2: all the respect and love farm in the world. At
Speaker 2: least that's how the plot is staged at the beginning,
Speaker 2: and she discovered in his private safe after his death
Speaker 2: this undeveloped eight millimeter films trip and so she calls up,
Speaker 2: gets this private investigator who's Nick Cage, who comes and
Speaker 2: screens privately this eight millimeter film strip, and he viscerally
Speaker 2: reacts to the point to where he instantly thinks this
Speaker 2: is real. There's no way this is faked, although he
Speaker 2: tries to justify for himself this is faked, but he
Speaker 2: reacts like anyone would if they saw a real person
Speaker 2: go through that, you know what I mean, which to me,
Speaker 2: obviously it makes it a yeah, far more in terms
Speaker 2: of I think it And obviously it was a snuff
Speaker 2: film in the context of the plot, but the point
Speaker 2: being that the character Walking Phoenix told Nicholas Cage's character
Speaker 2: before he enters the room to screen one of those
Speaker 2: snuff films, and he tells him he dance with the devil.
Speaker 2: The devil doesn't change, the devil changes you, and that
Speaker 2: like resonated with me honestly, it did. And I think
Speaker 2: it's just because I've overexposed myself to a lot of
Speaker 2: the disturbing details in terms of how many of these
Speaker 2: child sex trafficking operations have functioned. It resonated with me
Speaker 2: to my soul.
Speaker 6: You know, I'm pissed at the Epstein list didn't get it.
Speaker 5: And I'm sorry to get tear from that, but I'm
Speaker 5: pissed at That's why the list hasn't been brought out,
Speaker 5: because all we heard for the last few years is
Speaker 5: once I make this presidency, I'm want to release the records.
Speaker 5: Then they said they hit on the fucking table, on
Speaker 5: the desk and all that, and.
Speaker 6: Boom now now it's fake. Now it's fake.
Speaker 5: And I'm just like, come on, man, these are children, yo, Like,
Speaker 5: these are fucking children.
Speaker 6: You know what I mean. Vulnerable, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: And if you have children, you know that's going to
Speaker 5: hit deep in your heart. And I mean, I'm not
Speaker 5: saying that anybody that doesn't have children, that.
Speaker 6: Won't, but Jesus Christ, like, what the fuck?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 5: Like, some people don't put their I just don't get it, bro,
Speaker 5: And it really irritates me and pisses me off that
Speaker 5: people treat children like this. You know what I mean,
Speaker 5: children don't kids don't have a protective How can I
Speaker 5: say they.
Speaker 2: Have no protectors?
Speaker 5: Yeah, they have no protectors except us and the ones
Speaker 5: that are supposed to be protecting them.
Speaker 6: They're just throwing everything under the under the bridge like
Speaker 6: it's not ship. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I'm telling you I could never witness something like that
Speaker 5: and keep my mouth closed.
Speaker 6: I just couldn't. I couldn't, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: And it's crazy that that we got to this, to
Speaker 5: this level of shame that we're putting on on on
Speaker 5: our human side of things. You know, there are person
Speaker 5: there is no reason why that a child should have
Speaker 5: to worry about whether they're going to live and die
Speaker 5: when they go outside, that they're going to get kidnapped.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. There's no reason that a
Speaker 6: child should have to worry about that.
Speaker 5: No person periods should have to worry about that, but children,
Speaker 5: let alone. You know I'm saying, the most vulnerable, Like
Speaker 5: you said, it's just it's sickning man man.
Speaker 2: You know, when I covered the Franklin scandal, oh Man
Speaker 2: I'm telling you it was Franklin led me to the Finders,
Speaker 2: and I wound up at Mark de Trow and it's
Speaker 2: just like, my god, it never ends, man, you know.
Speaker 2: And and but but I am. I'm under the impression now,
Speaker 2: and at some point in the future we might have
Speaker 2: to do another one on this because I'm so well
Speaker 2: aware of the overlapping connections between Franklin, the Finders, the
Speaker 2: Atlanta child murders, of the Dean Choral murders in Houston. Uh,
Speaker 2: John Wayne Gacy, John Wayne that he's, oh, yeah, it's crazy,
Speaker 2: and and uh and we have you know, it's the
Speaker 2: politically protected sort of pedophile underground. That's what it truly is.
Speaker 2: And and and uh And the Franklin scandal, the way
Speaker 2: I described it was it truly kind of exposed the
Speaker 2: cognitive dissonance, forcing us to grapple with the psychological consequences
Speaker 2: of a corrupt system designed to protect prolific predators in
Speaker 2: the elite strata of society who strategically forged political connections
Speaker 2: and media influence. A dark and twisted odyssey revealing a
Speaker 2: nationwide pedophile network pandering children to America's power elite. And
Speaker 2: Nick Bryant himself, who wrote The Franklin Scandal. He says,
Speaker 2: this stuck with me forever, and when we had him
Speaker 2: on the show, I brought this up and it legitimately
Speaker 2: when I read this, it's what truly took for me.
Speaker 2: The Franklin Scandal helped really remove that veil of naivete
Speaker 2: in terms of how these state sponsor child trafficking operations
Speaker 2: have truly, you know, been facilitated and covered up, and
Speaker 2: what he said in terms of our society in the book,
Speaker 2: he writes, I wasn't so much anguished by the threats
Speaker 2: and intimidation I endured delving into the arcane mysteries of
Speaker 2: this universe, but rather by the realization of its very existence,
Speaker 2: a universe that encompasses the refined industrial destruction of children
Speaker 2: and its cover up by the very state and federal
Speaker 2: authorities who have pledged to protect children from the depravity
Speaker 2: of evil men. The children and our society as a
Speaker 2: whole have been betrayed, and that just like you know,
Speaker 2: my heart and soul could not could not be represented,
Speaker 2: you know, in any better way, honestly, And this is
Speaker 2: the environment we exist in, and it's up to people
Speaker 2: like us who are at the very least willing willing
Speaker 2: to dive into these dark avenues of investigation, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. And yeah, it's only then that you
Speaker 2: can kind of provide yourself right with with a with
Speaker 2: some sort of fundamental framework for how this is truly
Speaker 2: being facilitated underneath our noses and before our very own eyes,
Speaker 2: you know. And yeah, the Trow, My god, the Trow
Speaker 2: is the worst thing I've ever read in my life.
Speaker 2: I've never been more I've never been more affected than
Speaker 2: when I read through the X one dossier right the
Speaker 2: ex the Belgium X Files. We're talking the most sadistic
Speaker 2: and sinister forms of sexual abuse on children you could
Speaker 2: ever imagine. I couldn't even imagine it until I read
Speaker 2: through it, that's how disturbing it is. And I never
Speaker 2: in my life did I read something and legitimately, dude,
Speaker 2: I couldn't read the next sentence, you know, like I
Speaker 2: knew what I was about to read, and I had
Speaker 2: like viscerally turned my face away from the computer said
Speaker 2: fuck that, you know what I'm saying, Like it like
Speaker 2: affected me that deeply.
Speaker 6: Ah, It's just.
Speaker 2: I don't know how you're not even human? You know
Speaker 2: if you can do something like that to another person,
Speaker 2: let alone a child, you know. But anyway, damn, I'm sorry, guys,
Speaker 2: I haven't eaten all days anything that doesn't help.
Speaker 6: Well, this is wonderful, man, that great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, appreciate you, of course, man. But I really am
Speaker 2: willing if you guys ever want to in the future
Speaker 2: do another episode on something that has to do with this,
Speaker 2: because this is probably my wheelhouse more than anything at
Speaker 2: this moment. Unfortunately, is the brutal, unfortunate reality of the sadistic,
Speaker 2: sinister child trafficking operations. And yeah, unfortunately there's more evidence
Speaker 2: than you would ever like to discover, you know, not to.
Speaker 1: Be labor it, but I think another tangent that maybe
Speaker 1: we can even do another episode on. It's not just pedophelia.
Speaker 1: It transcends that in that some of these groups or
Speaker 1: these secret societies are trying to manifest or trying to
Speaker 1: bring God into a vessel and control it. And so
Speaker 1: sometimes we have to we have to s it see
Speaker 1: it from a different perspective. It's still wrong, it's still evil,
Speaker 1: it's all that, but you also have to see it
Speaker 1: that it's also for the benefit of themselves, not just
Speaker 1: in that regard, and I think it gets chalked up
Speaker 1: into oh, it's Satanism or it's ritual satan and abuse
Speaker 1: and blah blah, and so they just lump it into
Speaker 1: this category and it just goes on a shelf and
Speaker 1: we never look at it again. But you're it's just that,
Speaker 1: and it's not just that, it's so many other facets
Speaker 1: of so many other things.
Speaker 4: Actually chalking it off as satanism, I think actually kind
Speaker 4: of plays down like what really could be.
Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah, I just think satanic ritual abuse. I used
Speaker 2: the term because I think it's it's it refers more
Speaker 2: to like SRA to me, refers to like this layering
Speaker 2: in sort of there's a mind control aspect to it.
Speaker 2: There's there's obviously trauma based mind control through the monarch techniques,
Speaker 2: you know, administering these altars hypnotism so much is definitely involved.
Speaker 2: Pharmaceuticals very much involved. But you know, it's like they
Speaker 2: have to they have to distort your brain chemistry, they
Speaker 2: have to disrupt your neural pathways like they create. I
Speaker 2: couldn't imagine when I was reading the XT dossier, hundreds
Speaker 2: of different altars she had, and each of them were
Speaker 2: like basically they were different ages, they spoke differently. One
Speaker 2: of them was the whore that they had created in her,
Speaker 2: where she acted as if she deserved everything that happened.
Speaker 2: You know. It's just like, yeah, man, talk about submissive
Speaker 2: being conditioned. You know, it's disturbing as hell. But yeah,
Speaker 2: that's the only reason that I kind of use the
Speaker 2: term in a more like umbrella fashion, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 6: But I do agree with you.
Speaker 4: I think it's easier for people trying to get out
Speaker 4: what you're saying just by using that as a brut
Speaker 4: Tom No, I get that, but uh, listen again, thank
Speaker 4: you for coming on.
Speaker 3: Please let everybody know where they can find all your
Speaker 3: amazing work.
Speaker 2: Again, thank you so much, guys. I really do love
Speaker 2: these conversations, and hopefully I wasn't too like I feel
Speaker 2: like my mind works a little schizophrenic and sporadic at times,
Speaker 2: and I think I didn't eat today, so that doesn't
Speaker 2: help with the clarity of my vision when I'm I'm
Speaker 2: just going certain ideas. But uh, but yeah, I love
Speaker 2: these conversations and meeting people who are emotionally affected in
Speaker 2: similar ways. Yeah, it gives me hope. Man, You know,
Speaker 2: what I mean. So I can't thank you enough just
Speaker 2: for the the ability to have these open minded conversations
Speaker 2: and and kind of legitimately grapple with some of the
Speaker 2: most difficult details that that you could really face in
Speaker 2: an objective way, and and so but anyway, yeah, you
Speaker 2: guys can all find me at The Underclass Podcast. Definitely
Speaker 2: the best place to support me is patreon dot com
Speaker 2: slash the Underclass Podcast. I have a paywallt show there
Speaker 2: for just at least there's some incentive for listeners who
Speaker 2: even at the three dollars to your level, you can
Speaker 2: gain access to it. It's called whatever this is. And
Speaker 2: it's me and Brad Binkley from The Propaganda Report and
Speaker 2: Sam Tripley from timfoil Hat and it's been a lot
Speaker 2: of fun. Actually, I saw them text me earlier and
Speaker 2: I better text them back soon because I think they're
Speaker 2: going to try and do the show today. So anyway,
Speaker 2: but yeah, that's definitely the best place to support me.
Speaker 2: And but yeah, beyond that, I have a show every
Speaker 2: Tuesday night. It typically it's at nine thirty pm Eastern time.
Speaker 2: It's called Already Dead We do it. It's a call
Speaker 2: in show.
Speaker 3: Plugged that if you didn't, I was going to say,
Speaker 3: you have a live show.
Speaker 2: Everybody, thank you, thank you. I know I've been so
Speaker 2: bad about plugging that. For some reason I can't ever
Speaker 2: remember too, I'm bad about my plugs in general. I'm
Speaker 2: just like, thank you, guys.
Speaker 4: But so, yeah, he said, I interrupted you, So let
Speaker 4: everybody know again when is it?
Speaker 6: Oh you're good brother.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So every Tuesday night already dead nine thirty Eastern time,
Speaker 2: forty five minutes kind of shooting the bull, and then
Speaker 2: we do another however long, just kind of hanging out
Speaker 2: with the patrons or whoever calls in, and it's a
Speaker 2: good time. We talk a little bit more of about
Speaker 2: you know, current events, you know, more than than and
Speaker 2: then also like whatever we're spurging on at the time,
Speaker 2: for my personal solo projects for the underclass that I'm
Speaker 2: pursuing and things of that. My most recent one was
Speaker 2: the Atlanta child murders and Wayne Williams and yeah, safe
Speaker 2: to say I didn't expect an Iran contract connection there
Speaker 2: and then things of that, but you know, hey, heck
Speaker 2: it's a lot deeper. But yeah, so I encourage anybody
Speaker 2: who's interested go check that one out. And I did
Speaker 2: an interview about it as well with William Ramsey. It
Speaker 2: was it was a lot of fun, pretty well received,
Speaker 2: so check that out. And and beyond that, I think we're
Speaker 2: having Me and Me and Jewels are going to have
Speaker 2: a donut on I think on Tuesday, So that'll be fun.
Speaker 3: Man to one ritual, Great Pilled, right Jewels from Great Pill.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: He also goes on your already dead sometimes as well. Correct.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, basically we made him the producer after Adam
Speaker 2: from Deborget's Red Pill decided. You know, he he was
Speaker 2: he had too much going on. He was trying he
Speaker 2: had stopped doing the show anyway, and it was just
Speaker 2: trying to focus on jiu jitsu and homesteading a little
Speaker 2: bit more, which I admire very much. But so whenever
Speaker 2: he decided he was going to bow out, Jewles just
Speaker 2: offered his you know, He's like, hey man, I'll do it,
Speaker 2: and so Jose and I gave him that. You know,
Speaker 2: we we brought him in. It's been a lot of fun. Uh.
Speaker 2: So he's he's the producer and uh and we just
Speaker 2: kind of try and bring sort of levity to the
Speaker 2: situation in a way. We make it a more casual thing.
Speaker 2: I think it's very important to to decompress, but with
Speaker 2: people that you are comfortable with, where you can kind of, like,
Speaker 2: you know, make it a more enjoyable, laughable you know
Speaker 2: you can. It brings me back down to earth after
Speaker 2: I'm sitting there for the by myself for twelve hours,
Speaker 2: like reading the most disturbing details that you could imagine.
Speaker 2: I kind of need that outlet. So that's that's nice
Speaker 2: to have. Definitely. But and Jose Gallison's my co host
Speaker 2: of from Noway Jose, I love him to death. He's
Speaker 2: my brother and h and beyond that. Thank you again, guys. Honestly,
Speaker 2: I can't thank you enough.
Speaker 3: I appreciate it real quick, U Tyrone. You want to plug,
Speaker 3: you want to let everybody know what's up?
Speaker 1: Sure?
Speaker 6: Sure, thank you appreciate that.
Speaker 5: Well. Everything you can find about me is on my website,
Speaker 5: Rebirth Oftheword dot com. I'm a bestseller journey through the
Speaker 5: origins of history that can be found on Amazon. I
Speaker 5: do YouTube and all that stuff, but everything that you
Speaker 5: want to know about me can be found on my website.
Speaker 5: It's a blog, of course, but I take little snippets
Speaker 5: of what I've learned and I put it in a
Speaker 5: little blocked and I go take that and put it
Speaker 5: into my YouTube channel and Spotify and all that other stuff.
Speaker 6: So yeah, I appreciate it, Nick for let me come
Speaker 6: here again. Man. Sorry I was late.
Speaker 5: Man, I'm telling you, I'm not gonna let that happen again.
Speaker 5: I'm definitely gonna be on it this time. You know
Speaker 5: that that happened.
Speaker 6: I don't like that.
Speaker 5: I was in the military, man. I hate it be
Speaker 5: in late b bro.
Speaker 3: So you know, I was thinking about that.
Speaker 4: I was like, I think, now on when I make
Speaker 4: like the link to send out to everybody else, specify
Speaker 4: the time in it so then nobody gets confused. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, because it has happened to other
Speaker 4: people besides you. It's happened to Julian and other people.
Speaker 4: So it's quite all right.
Speaker 3: Man. I'm glad you made it. Yeah.
Speaker 6: I really do appreciate it. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 5: You. I learned so much just listening to you guys
Speaker 5: and sharing stuff. You know, Austin, you did great man,
Speaker 5: Because I'm telling you, I'm gonna go back and read
Speaker 5: that Norse mythology book just because of what you said.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna grab a couple of other ones that I
Speaker 5: have in the in the other room, and I'm gonna
Speaker 5: be on it, Like, why don't rits baby?
Speaker 2: Awesome, man, I'm gonna buy that book now that you
Speaker 2: showed me too. What was the author of that book?
Speaker 5: It's just a it's not necessarily one book I think
Speaker 5: you can get. I think it's a collection. But it's
Speaker 5: by Jake Jackson, JK. E. Jackson. He has a whole
Speaker 5: bunch of them, bro, I mean, like mythologies from everywhere.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 5: This is not even half of it right here, or
Speaker 5: a quarter of it or anything. It's like it's like
Speaker 5: a stack of them.
Speaker 6: Bro.
Speaker 5: The only reason why I pulled this one out was
Speaker 5: because of course it was part of the Norse mythology, right.
Speaker 4: That's awesome, dude, Thank you Agavin, thank you. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: appreciate it. I'm glad you made it, man, unless be
Speaker 4: not least Lisa, what.
Speaker 3: Is going on?
Speaker 1: Thank you Austin.
Speaker 7: That was an amazing, very thorough, very in depth discussion
Speaker 7: of Delphi and covered everything almost from the beginning, the intricacies, everything,
Speaker 7: court suspects, all kinds of little intricate details that I
Speaker 7: had heard literally from here and there whatever, you synthesized
Speaker 7: it all in one And I'm really really proud of
Speaker 7: this episode because if you want to know everything there
Speaker 7: is to know about Delfy, listen to this episode because
Speaker 7: you I said all.
Speaker 1: Together in a review like literally, that mean that's it.
Speaker 1: And so I feel very honored and privileged to have
Speaker 1: been on this episode with you presenting it the way
Speaker 1: that you did as much. I love thes that you know,
Speaker 1: Nick has enabled all of us to have at tour,
Speaker 1: and so very very honored, blessed to be a part
Speaker 1: of it and to be a part of the discussion.
Speaker 1: And the only thing I like to plug is a
Speaker 1: cult research institute dot org.
Speaker 4: You appreciate it, and again, thank you all. I mean
Speaker 4: that was a long one too. I appreciate all your
Speaker 4: time and thank you everybody in the chat. There was
Speaker 4: a lot of people in the chat that was here
Speaker 4: from the beginning to the end. I mean that was
Speaker 4: along with there was a whole bunch of new people.
Speaker 4: That's what's up. Thank you, and you all had great
Speaker 4: stuff to head too.
Speaker 1: So the chat, sorry, the chat, the new people. Thank
Speaker 1: y'all because y'all brought so much to the table and Tyrone.
Speaker 1: That's also some of the things that I love is
Speaker 1: that you pull up the images on the screen because
Speaker 1: it gets visual, and then all of the books. Thank you.
Speaker 6: Sorry, yeah, but.
Speaker 4: It was definitely awesome, and thank you for the new
Speaker 4: people jumping on and again you can check our stuff
Speaker 4: out also on a bit shoot, Rumble and on audio podcast.
Speaker 4: I will say that the audio will have more episodes
Speaker 4: than what you see on YouTube because I won't censor
Speaker 4: the show, but I just won't put it on YouTube.
Speaker 4: So if you want to check it out, there will
Speaker 4: be more stuff on the audio obviously, But again, thank
Speaker 4: you all and Austin amazing work. And until the next one,
Speaker 4: everybody be well later