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<v Speaker 1>You see, something's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>What what's going to happen? What you.

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<v Speaker 1>Help if you look into actually the people who bred them,

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<v Speaker 1>some of you know, these high ranking people, especially in

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<v Speaker 1>New York. They German patriotic.

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<v Speaker 2>So interesting. Okay, that makes a lot of sense too, Yeah, definitely,

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<v Speaker 2>and that that would make a lot of sense why

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<v Speaker 2>there's so much Nazi Nazism symbolic, you know, as far

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<v Speaker 2>as like symbolically layered throughout many of the cult organizations,

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<v Speaker 2>like the Process, right, I mean they had like a

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<v Speaker 2>broken skull open with the blood draining out, was just

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<v Speaker 2>like a dark shadows marching in lockstep goose stepping like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that would essentially a swastika. Yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 2>like entirely you know, Nazi symbolism, you know. But but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>very strange. But yeah, I should go take a Alsatians.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what they were called.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry my dogs? Can I can I.

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<v Speaker 1>Throw in my symbolism of Delphi?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I know you had a bunch of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been like chomping at the bit, but I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to interrupt. Okay, So if we look at the

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<v Speaker 1>two victims, Libby Rose Liberty Rose Lynn German is her name,

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<v Speaker 1>we noticed that it's two BB's for Libby, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we have Abigail Joyce Williams again to BB's right. So

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<v Speaker 1>we have the letter B being kind of reinforced and

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<v Speaker 1>used again and again when we look at the victims themselves.

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<v Speaker 4>Real quick, I just did want to you said, the

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<v Speaker 4>girl's name is Liberty, right, Liberty. Yeah, that actually matches

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<v Speaker 4>in Jewish Jamatari rituals.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting, that's interesting. Sorry, I just I just no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>please please interject. So then and then, of course your

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<v Speaker 1>last name is German, right, Liberty German, Okay. And so

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<v Speaker 1>she was the she was the oldest one of the two.

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<v Speaker 1>She's fourteen. She was the one that was found without clothes,

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<v Speaker 1>and so that reminded me of like Eve in the garden,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, still in the garden, still in what have you.

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<v Speaker 1>But of course that's probably not, you know, odonistic. And

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<v Speaker 1>then you have the youngest one, who's thirteen, and she

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<v Speaker 1>was clothed, and she was the one that looked like

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<v Speaker 1>the hanged man.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things that I kind of wanted to emphasize,

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<v Speaker 1>and i'll, you know, briefly take you through that is

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers four and three are found over and over

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<v Speaker 1>and over, and I'll show you how here in a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, but with into the tree almost reminding you

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<v Speaker 1>of the left hand path or separations and so fourth

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<v Speaker 1>and you have the Norse mythology of the tree yarder cell.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an ash tree. Odin's horse, you have, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the nine kind of coming into play with that. You

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<v Speaker 1>have Odin Haynes himself. You have dry cell of the

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<v Speaker 1>horse and all that other stuff. One of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that I kind of, you know, gravitated towards was Yager

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<v Speaker 1>sell sounds like garda cell, which was the vaccine that

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<v Speaker 1>was used in HPV, and it was a vaccine put

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<v Speaker 1>out by Mark and one of the main strains that

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<v Speaker 1>I guess is responsible for cancers like six I mean sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen eighteen, I think sometimes eleven six and whatever. But

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that stood out the most was that it

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<v Speaker 1>had first been developed for girls and they were advising

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<v Speaker 1>them to be given between the ages of nine and thirteen.

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<v Speaker 1>So nine again show or something kind of similar, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, wow, that's kind of a stretch. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me keep looking. While most of the HPV vaccine studies

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<v Speaker 1>included a Delphi technique that you it was named after

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<v Speaker 1>the oracle Delphi, and it basically it's a method to

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<v Speaker 1>forecast decisions, so it assumes that are more valid than

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<v Speaker 1>the individual judgment. And that method was used to predict

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<v Speaker 1>market not so much the technique of developing vaccine theory

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<v Speaker 1>or vaccine technology, but basically how could we put this

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<v Speaker 1>out there and how could we implement it into public market,

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<v Speaker 1>public health, public policymaking. So it's interesting that.

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<v Speaker 2>The corporation was involved with with the Delphi method, right,

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<v Speaker 2>right of course.

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<v Speaker 1>And so then you have another software related to the

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<v Speaker 1>Garsol vaccine where it's called the Delphi screener and simulate

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<v Speaker 1>and estimate history of cervical cancer screening in a hypothetical situation.

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<v Speaker 1>So they kind of model it or project it out.

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<v Speaker 1>And then one thing that I thought interesting is that

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<v Speaker 1>when the girls, when it was discovered in these girls had

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<v Speaker 1>been victim of a crime, the tree of life became

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<v Speaker 1>the symbol of their remembrance. And so I go back to, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we have again the yagersil the tree of odin that

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<v Speaker 1>he hung himself. The other thing kind of stood out

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<v Speaker 1>to me was a m Abby Williams. I'm sorry, so

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<v Speaker 1>a M meaning the axis Moondy. But if you look

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<v Speaker 1>at Abby Williams, if you flip the W, you get

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<v Speaker 1>the the M. And Abby was the one that was

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<v Speaker 1>indicating the hanged man, so almost like an opposite or

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<v Speaker 1>upside down. And she had the position of the branches

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<v Speaker 1>on the girls that looked like in A and M.

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<v Speaker 1>So you have axis Mondy and I think am is

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<v Speaker 1>also important in Freemasonry as well as Masonic, most Masonic things.

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<v Speaker 1>But the other thing that kind of stood out, and

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<v Speaker 1>it just happened while you were talking Austin. So just

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers four and three seem to pop up and

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<v Speaker 1>keep popping up. So we have a forty three second

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<v Speaker 1>video from the girl's phone, right, total of forty three.

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<v Speaker 3>He got a d.

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<v Speaker 1>He was sentenced to forty three years in prison. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you look at the toll the day that

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<v Speaker 1>the bodies apparently or what was it, what was in

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<v Speaker 1>February thirteenth, right, So you have a two, you have

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<v Speaker 1>a three, and then you have twenty seventeen. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you take away the ones, you have two three, then

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<v Speaker 1>two and that would be four seven, I mean four

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<v Speaker 1>and then three would be seven. And the reason I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>why well, what is the one important or not? But

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<v Speaker 1>then you timestamped that Abby posted that video or somebody

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<v Speaker 1>took a screenshot and it was two O seven. So

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<v Speaker 1>you again you have, you know, the resundancy of like

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it is this, but I think the so four

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<v Speaker 1>and three were you know, kind of show up a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's the number seven that it's pointing to right,

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of referring back and back. And so when

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<v Speaker 1>you look at what was the other one the hangman

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<v Speaker 1>in tarot is the number seven when you look at

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<v Speaker 1>Ronald Logan when he died seventy seven. The other thing

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<v Speaker 1>is and one thing that I always found where that

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<v Speaker 1>nobody really picked up on. When you look at the

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<v Speaker 1>way the girls that they were laid right, and you

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<v Speaker 1>look at the brands that were laid over them, they

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<v Speaker 1>look like a three and a four. And so if

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<v Speaker 1>you look up what is what does the number three

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<v Speaker 1>look like in rooms? It's basically the V with a

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<v Speaker 1>with a straight line coming down like this. And then

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<v Speaker 1>the other one described it looks like an F, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the four. So it's three and four. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you look at their ages, they're thirteen and fourteen, leaving

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<v Speaker 1>out the one right. So then you look at what

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<v Speaker 1>is number seven in odinism and it's too complete to finish, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I think so. And then when you look

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<v Speaker 1>at the number seven in rooms, it's an X, which

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<v Speaker 1>you could you could argue that that's also what that

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<v Speaker 1>with the one with the branches with the long stick

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<v Speaker 1>going across like them?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, I just just thoughts and then really quickly let

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<v Speaker 1>me finish this. I'm sorry because I'm like dying to

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<v Speaker 1>get it all out. Okay, So that was the ruins germanship.

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<v Speaker 1>We already talked about that. We talked about that. Oh murders.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry sorry sorry, Oh that was the end the number

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<v Speaker 1>seven completeness. Kelsey. One of the things that I found

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<v Speaker 1>really weird with Kelsey. She is the sister of Libby.

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<v Speaker 1>She kind of has abandoned who she was and taken

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<v Speaker 1>on the role of I'm living Libby's life.

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<v Speaker 2>Right as she really I haven't followed it since, honestly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you had mentioned and early on we heard

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<v Speaker 1>this that there was a Purdue professor that came out

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<v Speaker 1>and said it's not that bulb blap. But then now

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<v Speaker 1>they can't find him, right, whatever sense he took. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't hear she took I don't know, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>a Purdue professor. I remember that. And then all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden they couldn't find who he was. What's interesting

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<v Speaker 1>is that Kelsey has taken on I guess the narrative

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<v Speaker 1>that she wants to grow up and become a forensic

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<v Speaker 1>or go into forensics. And she's currently taking classes at university.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, so it's like, is it with the

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<v Speaker 1>same professor, except I don't know. And so there is that.

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<v Speaker 1>And then what you had mentioned, I'm so glad you

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned him. You mentioned what's his name, Brad Holder, and

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of Facebook posts prior to the case, or

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<v Speaker 1>prior to the whole thing, right, and they said that

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<v Speaker 1>weird how he was, like he had all these Facebook

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<v Speaker 1>images and they were kind of indicating certain that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of led to one of the murders or what have you.

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<v Speaker 1>But one of the the common theme that he had

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<v Speaker 1>in his images was the what is it called tho

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<v Speaker 1>in zaas I can't pronounce that, but it's basically the

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<v Speaker 1>room for the number three, so that one where everybody's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like anough, it looks like an F but

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know what the other one is. It looks

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<v Speaker 1>like a three. I mean, I think it does. It

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<v Speaker 1>maybe doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how they connect. That's basically what I was just

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<v Speaker 2>getting to, basically was just that how the Rushville del

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<v Speaker 2>Phi connection to the individuals who are part of the

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<v Speaker 2>same group, the gang, right, the Vinlander Gang, I think

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<v Speaker 2>is what they refer to themselves as, which if you

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<v Speaker 2>look at Look a Vinlander, you get this historical text

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<v Speaker 2>that seems to be very much involved at a crucial

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<v Speaker 2>level of the ideological framework that they kind of exercise.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems to be a sort of like almost origin

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<v Speaker 2>story of the Vinlander. And they're like, it's very strange.

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<v Speaker 2>It almost feels like some sort of reflection of a

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<v Speaker 2>Knight's Templar connection almost. It honestly does.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, And you're you're absolutely right with the whole Night's

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<v Speaker 1>Templar because again we go to Access Mondy and they

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<v Speaker 1>were the ones that pretty much bring Access Mondy into

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<v Speaker 1>the zeitgeist. Yeah wow, And that's where you get the

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<v Speaker 1>people are basically go into the Rosicrucians, and they go

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<v Speaker 1>into the Masons, and then they go into all the

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<v Speaker 1>other secret societies that kind of come out of that

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<v Speaker 1>if by if if, and I believe they were Germanic

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<v Speaker 2>That's where I think a lot of the there's there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of Germanic imagery that's used in the context

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<v Speaker 2>of the Vinlanders, which I find interesting. And that's another

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<v Speaker 2>reason why I think they called them no essentially neo Nazis,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and in a certain way they said they

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<v Speaker 2>were they were basically, you know, fundamentally sort of white supremacists, right,

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<v Speaker 2>which I found interesting. But but uh, basically and I

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<v Speaker 2>have to, I have to, I have to share this

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<v Speaker 2>picture of Brad Holder in a moment. But that whole uh,

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<v Speaker 2>that whole point as far as there's a connection to

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<v Speaker 2>this individual by the name of Johnny Messer. And this

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<v Speaker 2>is where the Facebook posts come into play, which is

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<v Speaker 2>so crazy. As you were mentioning how they're they're kind

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<v Speaker 2>of recreating, uh, the same photos that that each of

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<v Speaker 2>them are posting on their Facebook pages around the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>What is it called whenever you move up in the

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<v Speaker 2>in the context of a secret fraternal organization. Yeah, basically yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and and so basically the Unified Command they discovered this

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<v Speaker 2>provided to them that proved by the task Force that

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<v Speaker 2>there were connections from the members of the Venlander group

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<v Speaker 2>in Rushville to the members of the Vinlander group in Delphi.

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<v Speaker 2>a recruiter for the Odinis, right, for the Odenites also,

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<v Speaker 2>and he seems to provide this connective tissue between the

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<v Speaker 2>Westfall are then connected to the Rushville suspects, Elvis Fields

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<v Speaker 2>and Rodd Abrams right who Elvis is the one who

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<v Speaker 2>on one of the girls, right, who told his sister

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<v Speaker 2>the he was he was responsible and a part of

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<v Speaker 2>before that he had told his sister, and so that

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<v Speaker 2>like one hundred and twenty five miles basically from Rushville,

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<v Speaker 2>also known that Messer was acquaintances with Elvis Fields and

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<v Speaker 2>Rodd Abrams. So this is the recruiter for the Odonites.

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<v Speaker 2>So basically it appears as if this connection was then

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<v Speaker 2>chalked up to a simple bizarre coincidence by the Unified Command. Legitimately,

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<v Speaker 2>that's how they explain this away. They just act as

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<v Speaker 2>if this is an actual coincidence, and we shouldn't look

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<v Speaker 2>into the statements that were made by anyone surrounding these

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<v Speaker 2>individuals or the individuals themselves, which clearly show that they

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<v Speaker 2>have no real alibi that's legitimate, incredible, and yet that

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't force the or at least, you know, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>of course force the investigators to pursue that at any

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<v Speaker 2>real level of honesty or integrity. And that proves out

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<v Speaker 2>to me that the Unified Command was clearly compromised, especially

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<v Speaker 2>what takes place with the Task Force. So Elvis Fields, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So you have this crazy connection between Elvis Fields, Rodd

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<v Speaker 2>Abram's Bradholder and Patrick Westfall who are sharing this a

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<v Speaker 2>common acquaintance in Johnny Messer, who's the recruiter for the Oldness.

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<v Speaker 2>But it turns out that Elvis Fields and Brad Holder

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<v Speaker 2>they happen to also follow each other on Facebook while

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<v Speaker 2>mimicking each other's Facebook pages, with Elvis Fields actually recreating

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<v Speaker 2>the photos that Holder posted on his Facebook page. So

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<v Speaker 2>at this is shocking as hell because I believe as

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<v Speaker 2>August to twenty twenty three, there was a deposition and

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<v Speaker 2>he did not even know who Johnny Messer was nor

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<v Speaker 2>what the evidence showed of Messer's possible role in the

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<v Speaker 2>murders of Abby and Libby. This is after the task

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<v Speaker 2>has provided all the information including these individuals as key

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<v Speaker 2>perpetrators potentially involved, and so he's already I think Jerry Holman,

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<v Speaker 2>compromised individuals who helped facilitate the cover up, and that

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<v Speaker 2>continues to show itself. But there's you know it's Johnny

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<v Speaker 2>Messer was cleared as a suspect, just like just like

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<v Speaker 2>Brad Holder when and that was all you know you

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<v Speaker 2>cleared While still considering the fact that Johnny's ex girlfriend,

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<v Speaker 2>Taylor Hornaday, she told police that Johnny, Johnny Messer, and

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<v Speaker 2>Patrick Westfall were like brothers. She also told police that

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<v Speaker 2>she had allowed Johnny to borrow her car on or

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<v Speaker 2>around Valentine's Day twenty seventeen, and that Johnny drove this

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<v Speaker 2>car her car up there to hang with his Vinlander friends.

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<v Speaker 2>So he drove as if he had driven one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five miles up to Delphi to hang with his

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<v Speaker 2>Vinlander friends. When he returned his vehicle or her vehicle,

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<v Speaker 2>it had dried blood over one side of it. Johnny

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<v Speaker 2>Messer refused to discuss the details of how the blood

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<v Speaker 2>took her several car washes to finally remove this blood. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 2>Messer has claimed that he had never, not once in

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<v Speaker 2>his life been to Delphi home of his brother Patrick

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<v Speaker 2>Westfall right and near the home of his other odinite brother,

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<v Speaker 2>Brad Holder, and again Vinlander is a word allegedly interchangeable

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<v Speaker 2>with those that practice odinism. As State Trooper Roland Purty

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<v Speaker 2>stated in his deposition, all members of Vinlanders are also odinis,

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<v Speaker 2>and also it says that the Vinlanders are a white

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<v Speaker 2>supremacist group consisting of odinis. Brad Holder, Patrick Westfall, and

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<v Speaker 2>Johnny Messer were all affiliate with the Venlander group. Johnny

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<v Speaker 2>Messer's x girlfriend, the same woman, Taylor Hornaday, she also

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<v Speaker 2>would confirm that all Vinlanders were also all odinous, and

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<v Speaker 2>that Johnny Messer, Bradholder, and Patrick Westfall were all members

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<v Speaker 2>of the Vinlander So Taylor Hornaday Messrs ex girlfriend. She

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<v Speaker 2>would continue on to tell law enforcement that brad Holder

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<v Speaker 2>and Johnny were two of the most violent people she

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<v Speaker 2>knew and were fully capable of having been involved in

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<v Speaker 2>the murders. Now, the same woman would would state that

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<v Speaker 2>a motive for their involvement seemed to have been the

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<v Speaker 2>concept of quote blood in and blood out, which means

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<v Speaker 2>social acceptance into their secret circles. This was an initiatory

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<v Speaker 2>blood sacrifice, I mean, that's what it seems as if

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<v Speaker 2>took place. But all this information was relayed to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the leaders of the Unified Command and Lagette

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<v Speaker 2>and and the entire Unified Command team. But no guidance

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<v Speaker 2>whatsoever or capitalization on this information in any way toward

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<v Speaker 2>actually solving these murders was actually pursued. And so although

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<v Speaker 2>Unified Command learned that Johnny Messer's ex girlfriend had been

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<v Speaker 2>listening to and recording Johnny Messer's phone calls, police secured

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<v Speaker 2>the phone and listened to three phone calls involving Johnny.

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<v Speaker 2>In two of those phone calls, Messer was quote offering

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<v Speaker 2>money to other people to find someone so they can

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<v Speaker 2>be injured or killed. The third call involves Messer quote

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<v Speaker 2>bragging about holding a subject hostage and shooting them at

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<v Speaker 2>his house. So when you go through the memorandum and

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<v Speaker 2>the affidavit and all the court documents that are provided

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<v Speaker 2>in the Delphi case, it is fundamentally, in my mind

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<v Speaker 2>it's possible, you know, to to sort of just at

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<v Speaker 2>the very least ignore you know that these these details

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<v Speaker 2>are are so condemning and damning details you know, in

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<v Speaker 2>my mind, actually providing us with legitimate perpetrators, the names

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<v Speaker 2>of the individuals involved, where they were on the night

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<v Speaker 2>of the murders taking place. How their alibis completely fall apart.

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<v Speaker 2>If you attempt to, you know, at any level, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>corroborate the legitimacy of the alibi, it doesn't stand up.

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<v Speaker 2>And they each rely on each other to to sort of,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, make these false statements. And the official unified

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<v Speaker 2>command would do everything in their capability to ignore all

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<v Speaker 2>of these connections and all of this cooperative evidence, and

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<v Speaker 2>and then with worse than that, wouldhold it all from

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<v Speaker 2>the defense and the prosecution, you know, because I believe

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<v Speaker 2>the judge was obviously in bed with the prosecution itself.

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<v Speaker 2>But the fact of the matter is, you know, they

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<v Speaker 2>essentially said nothing to see here. And regarding Johnny Messer, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and and Patrick Westfall and Brad Holder, and so none

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<v Speaker 2>of them, they're no search warrants for for any of

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<v Speaker 2>them were issued. So then you have, of course the

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<v Speaker 2>odin I correctional officers who are abusing Richard Allen, and

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<v Speaker 2>that that's very strange because there there's in odin we

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<v Speaker 2>trust is a patch that was being displayed with symbols

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<v Speaker 2>of Odinism on their actual prison guard uniforms in the

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<v Speaker 2>Westville Corrections facility. And and so it's obviously to me

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<v Speaker 2>that you you have these these members of the Westville

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<v Speaker 2>Correctional Facility who are legitimately abusing Richard Allen during the

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<v Speaker 2>throughout the course of this investigation and then after he's

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<v Speaker 2>apprehended in the case going forward to the trial. It's

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<v Speaker 2>it's just it's fast to me how it all kind

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<v Speaker 2>of takes shape. But yes, so it turns out that

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<v Speaker 2>two of these individuals who were the old night correctional

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<v Speaker 2>officers alleged to have abused Richard Allen while he's in

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<v Speaker 2>custody and intimidated him right Apparently their names were Sergeant

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<v Speaker 2>Robertson and Sergeant Jones. And these officers were were boldly

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<v Speaker 2>wearing these patches right on their DC uniforms, so beyond

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<v Speaker 2>that you have, and they were in the form of

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<v Speaker 2>these interlocking triangles. I think that I saw you pull

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<v Speaker 2>up earlier, Nick, where I had seen you pull up

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of different symbols and and and one of

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<v Speaker 2>them was these interlocking triangles that very obviously I had

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<v Speaker 2>gotten a picture of one of the patches that was

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<v Speaker 2>on the the correctional officers uniforms, and and yeah, it

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<v Speaker 2>was so clearly obvious that it was an old Knight

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<v Speaker 2>symbol and.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean, And you know what, I thought,

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<v Speaker 3>it just really quick. I wanted to throw this into it.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought, you know, when I came across this and

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<v Speaker 4>I heard about this stuff, I don't know why it

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<v Speaker 4>made me remember and I me and Lux originally when

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<v Speaker 4>we did the Occult Rejects, I did it with him

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<v Speaker 4>and we had covered the what.

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<v Speaker 3>The fuck was that shit? That insurrection spokely you know,

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<v Speaker 3>whatever you want to call that.

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<v Speaker 4>Thing, and you had that uh that QAnon shaman guy. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, we cover that whole thing where that guy

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<v Speaker 4>was like practically dressed up. Like I can't remember the

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<v Speaker 4>ritual because it was Lux was the one who found it.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like kind of looking at other things, but

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<v Speaker 4>that guy pretty much fit like a ritual that was

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<v Speaker 4>going on, and I found it interesting how he did

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<v Speaker 4>have that symbol on.

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<v Speaker 3>His chest as well. Of course, you know, it's just

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, like is this all theater as well?

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<v Speaker 4>It's hard to explain, like it's just you know, and

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<v Speaker 4>again like I'm not saying I don't know how to

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<v Speaker 4>say this. You know, there are people on the far

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<v Speaker 4>right who are interested in Trump just put it that

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<v Speaker 4>way right, So you know, could he be going back

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<v Speaker 2>Coham, Sorry, no, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Could have just be going back to people that are

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<v Speaker 4>interested in that shipping into the occult one.

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean you see the templars and the strange loyalists,

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<v Speaker 2>uh to certain, I meanless circle P two. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>how many different members are surrounding Trump at this moment

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<v Speaker 2>who have affiliations and loyalties to these secret fraternal organizations

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<v Speaker 2>that are pursuing a very similar agenda. Uh yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>just you know, we can't believe our own eyes. And

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<v Speaker 2>political puppets perform in the political theater, right, they perform

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<v Speaker 2>their roles for the clearly this sort of aristocratic elite

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<v Speaker 2>class that that have fundamentally structured modern society to where

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<v Speaker 2>we clearly they're insulated from accountability in more ways than one.

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<v Speaker 2>And and that's why. And also you have to be

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<v Speaker 2>among the initiated or introduced to the ideas at the

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<v Speaker 2>very least two not you know, kind of be seduced,

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<v Speaker 2>right or at the very least not not be able

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<v Speaker 2>to identify the clear and obvious loyalist symbology and symbolism

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<v Speaker 2>that surrounds many of these individuals who are trying to

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<v Speaker 2>exercise and flex their loyal uh you know, loyal nature

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<v Speaker 2>to their organization. But but yeah, I think there's also

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<v Speaker 2>like just symbols surrounding like uh, you know, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>whenever Trump's in the Oval office and they they they're

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<v Speaker 2>kind of performing some sort of you know, public uh

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<v Speaker 2>it clearly have you not seen the the strange shelf

419
00:26:41.599 --> 00:26:45.240
<v Speaker 2>that's behind Trump where every single presidential administration they have

420
00:26:45.319 --> 00:26:47.839
<v Speaker 2>different things that they put on the shelf, and for

421
00:26:47.839 --> 00:26:51.359
<v Speaker 2>for his background, it now seems to be all these

422
00:26:51.400 --> 00:26:54.720
<v Speaker 2>gold statues that take on different forms. And it's very

423
00:26:54.720 --> 00:26:58.279
<v Speaker 2>interesting because to me it looks like it's deliberate and

424
00:26:58.440 --> 00:27:01.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, and and who knows what the ties are there,

425
00:27:01.279 --> 00:27:03.319
<v Speaker 2>But I wouldn't all be shocked. I saw something the

426
00:27:03.359 --> 00:27:05.599
<v Speaker 2>other day that that showed that there were, you know,

427
00:27:05.880 --> 00:27:10.200
<v Speaker 2>clear reasons as to why Trump is the true German Shepherd.

428
00:27:10.880 --> 00:27:15.440
<v Speaker 2>That's funny. But but yeah, you know, it's crazy about

429
00:27:15.480 --> 00:27:20.680
<v Speaker 2>these of course, And and you know what I mean,

430
00:27:21.039 --> 00:27:24.519
<v Speaker 2>I covered the Cancora Boys Home and and uh Roy Kohane,

431
00:27:25.039 --> 00:27:28.799
<v Speaker 2>his mentor, flat out raped Richard Kerr. You know, I

432
00:27:28.839 --> 00:27:32.680
<v Speaker 2>mean legitimately trafficked that dude. From Cancora Boys Home and

433
00:27:32.960 --> 00:27:37.880
<v Speaker 2>was a pedophile who ran sexual blackmail, human compromised parties

434
00:27:38.119 --> 00:27:41.279
<v Speaker 2>where the Processed Church, according to David Berkwitz, was supplying

435
00:27:41.359 --> 00:27:45.599
<v Speaker 2>him with young children right at his human compromised parties

436
00:27:45.640 --> 00:27:48.279
<v Speaker 2>where he's living geographically very close to that of Trump

437
00:27:48.279 --> 00:27:50.759
<v Speaker 2>at the time. And uh, and we all know at

438
00:27:50.759 --> 00:27:54.519
<v Speaker 2>this point that Richard that Roy Cohne he was responsible

439
00:27:54.599 --> 00:27:59.559
<v Speaker 2>for actually blackmailing Jaeger Hoover and the Blue Sweet parties

440
00:27:59.559 --> 00:28:02.559
<v Speaker 2>and and h and so the idea that Trump hasn't

441
00:28:02.559 --> 00:28:06.119
<v Speaker 2>been drenched in human compromise for generations and that you know,

442
00:28:06.160 --> 00:28:08.200
<v Speaker 2>you can go back to was it Murdoch or who

443
00:28:08.240 --> 00:28:12.039
<v Speaker 2>was the individual who the money money manager of the Rothchilds,

444
00:28:12.079 --> 00:28:15.240
<v Speaker 2>who are like, uh, basically stating when Trump had a

445
00:28:15.359 --> 00:28:18.680
<v Speaker 2>filed for bankruptcy back in the day that after it,

446
00:28:18.759 --> 00:28:22.240
<v Speaker 2>and of course he took over Royal Casino International, which

447
00:28:22.279 --> 00:28:25.400
<v Speaker 2>has ties to the Mayor Lancey Mayor Lansky syndicate. But

448
00:28:25.440 --> 00:28:29.440
<v Speaker 2>nobody talks about that. But of course it just it

449
00:28:29.519 --> 00:28:32.720
<v Speaker 2>blows me away, you know, considering the fact that Trump

450
00:28:32.720 --> 00:28:35.640
<v Speaker 2>would then purchase that very same hotel that was utilized

451
00:28:35.640 --> 00:28:39.559
<v Speaker 2>for audio visual blackmail for that roy Cohne with blackmail,

452
00:28:39.599 --> 00:28:42.640
<v Speaker 2>JEdgar Hoover with and then he also happens to purchase

453
00:28:42.720 --> 00:28:45.799
<v Speaker 2>a non Koshogi's yacht which is also entirely rigged with

454
00:28:45.839 --> 00:28:50.880
<v Speaker 2>audio visual blackmail, who was connected to the Maxwell Epstein

455
00:28:51.200 --> 00:28:55.599
<v Speaker 2>network of running guns through a RAN contra. And Epstein

456
00:28:55.680 --> 00:28:58.640
<v Speaker 2>himself was was right living under a fake passport in

457
00:28:58.680 --> 00:29:02.640
<v Speaker 2>Saudi Arabia and different identity while these embezzling funds from

458
00:29:02.880 --> 00:29:07.680
<v Speaker 2>a non Koshogi's arms smuggling operation. So to me, yeah,

459
00:29:08.039 --> 00:29:11.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's like, let's put all the individuals who

460
00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:14.279
<v Speaker 2>are compromised by the Epstein network in charge of Epstein

461
00:29:14.319 --> 00:29:17.759
<v Speaker 2>disclosure and see what happens. You know, it's hilarious to me.

462
00:29:17.839 --> 00:29:21.680
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, the fundamental point I was attempting to make

463
00:29:21.720 --> 00:29:26.519
<v Speaker 2>with the symbolic nature of the correctional officers not only

464
00:29:26.559 --> 00:29:30.240
<v Speaker 2>wearing the patches and you know, clearly displaying their loyalties,

465
00:29:30.599 --> 00:29:34.759
<v Speaker 2>but they also, just like Brad Holder, just like Patrick Westfall,

466
00:29:35.319 --> 00:29:38.279
<v Speaker 2>they were also posting these od Night symbols on their

467
00:29:38.319 --> 00:29:42.319
<v Speaker 2>Facebook pages, clear displays of these ruins and images, and

468
00:29:43.839 --> 00:29:49.079
<v Speaker 2>so I think it was there was a photograph that

469
00:29:49.160 --> 00:29:52.880
<v Speaker 2>one of them, one of the correctional officers either Robinson

470
00:29:53.759 --> 00:29:57.359
<v Speaker 2>or Jones had displayed on their Facebook page as well,

471
00:29:57.400 --> 00:29:59.640
<v Speaker 2>and it was like an altar, right, some sort of

472
00:29:59.720 --> 00:30:04.480
<v Speaker 2>od alter that that uh, they were essentially utilizing and

473
00:30:04.480 --> 00:30:07.319
<v Speaker 2>and or at least portraying on their on their page

474
00:30:07.359 --> 00:30:11.559
<v Speaker 2>and and so yeah, the same well something very similar

475
00:30:11.960 --> 00:30:15.960
<v Speaker 2>could be found, uh, almost identical on that of the

476
00:30:16.039 --> 00:30:19.119
<v Speaker 2>Facebook page of Brad Holder, which is fascinating to me

477
00:30:19.200 --> 00:30:21.920
<v Speaker 2>that they were kind of again, they were mimicking each

478
00:30:21.960 --> 00:30:24.960
<v Speaker 2>other's Facebook pages with the symbology surrounding the case that

479
00:30:25.000 --> 00:30:27.839
<v Speaker 2>had yet to go public, and and that in itself

480
00:30:28.000 --> 00:30:32.240
<v Speaker 2>is some sort of uh, you know, it's some sort

481
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<v Speaker 2>of strange Yeah. I mean, when when you feel as

482
00:30:35.799 --> 00:30:38.480
<v Speaker 2>if you're protected enough to where you can kind of

483
00:30:38.519 --> 00:30:42.640
<v Speaker 2>flaunt your you know, uh, it really is kind of

484
00:30:44.000 --> 00:30:48.759
<v Speaker 2>outwardly taking credit, you know what I mean in a

485
00:30:48.799 --> 00:30:50.720
<v Speaker 2>way to where you feel as if you have no

486
00:30:51.119 --> 00:30:55.559
<v Speaker 2>concern about legitimate consequences being you know, coming around the

487
00:30:55.559 --> 00:30:59.759
<v Speaker 2>corner and during them at any real level personally. So yeah,

488
00:30:59.799 --> 00:31:02.240
<v Speaker 2>to me, it seemed as if this was a perfect

489
00:31:02.279 --> 00:31:05.680
<v Speaker 2>display of how much how confident they truly were the

490
00:31:05.680 --> 00:31:10.359
<v Speaker 2>individual perpetrators involved in this, and it goes to show

491
00:31:10.400 --> 00:31:14.319
<v Speaker 2>that whatever Patrick Westfall had told Brad Holder or when

492
00:31:14.400 --> 00:31:17.000
<v Speaker 2>they had their falling out after this alleged falling out,

493
00:31:17.039 --> 00:31:21.960
<v Speaker 2>after this ritual murder, that according to Amber Holder, right,

494
00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:26.079
<v Speaker 2>Brad Holder's ex wife, that Patrick Westfall he had powerful

495
00:31:26.119 --> 00:31:29.319
<v Speaker 2>people he was connected with and they were protected essentially

496
00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:33.359
<v Speaker 2>from any real accountability. And so that goes to show

497
00:31:33.480 --> 00:31:36.920
<v Speaker 2>I think that obviously, beyond the connection to the prison

498
00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:40.799
<v Speaker 2>system and the correctional officers themselves being loyal to the

499
00:31:40.799 --> 00:31:46.279
<v Speaker 2>group who are obviously apparently abusing Richard Allen during the

500
00:31:46.319 --> 00:31:51.839
<v Speaker 2>course of his you know, just being you know, obviously

501
00:31:51.880 --> 00:31:55.839
<v Speaker 2>in custody, it was just like at every level, you know,

502
00:31:55.920 --> 00:32:00.640
<v Speaker 2>there's not justice that's being pursued at any you know,

503
00:32:00.680 --> 00:32:03.000
<v Speaker 2>it's just it's kind of extraordinary to look at this

504
00:32:03.119 --> 00:32:07.119
<v Speaker 2>case and and see that none of these oldness signatures

505
00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:11.039
<v Speaker 2>in the crime scene were pursued at any level. And so, yeah,

506
00:32:11.119 --> 00:32:16.000
<v Speaker 2>the oldness patches were later apparently as they as the

507
00:32:16.039 --> 00:32:22.119
<v Speaker 2>prosecution realized that the defense had had discovered the fact

508
00:32:22.119 --> 00:32:24.880
<v Speaker 2>that these oldness patches were being worn by the correctional

509
00:32:24.880 --> 00:32:29.079
<v Speaker 2>officers who were essentially abusing Richard Allen, and and and

510
00:32:29.480 --> 00:32:34.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, obviously there and present whenever Richard Allen would

511
00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:36.960
<v Speaker 2>discuss any of the details of his case with his

512
00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:42.319
<v Speaker 2>family members or his defense team, that basically, you know,

513
00:32:42.359 --> 00:32:45.319
<v Speaker 2>they had removed their patches in a very timely manner,

514
00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:48.119
<v Speaker 2>and just as the defense had discovered and we're going

515
00:32:48.160 --> 00:32:50.599
<v Speaker 2>to make it public, all of a sudden, the patches

516
00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:53.440
<v Speaker 2>of loyalty to the Oldness Group were removed from the

517
00:32:53.480 --> 00:32:56.680
<v Speaker 2>correctional officer's uniform. And so that in itself kind of

518
00:32:57.839 --> 00:33:00.319
<v Speaker 2>provided a smoking gun as to the fact that had

519
00:33:00.359 --> 00:33:04.839
<v Speaker 2>one insider information insider knowledge. Things were going around and

520
00:33:04.960 --> 00:33:08.640
<v Speaker 2>very quickly in terms of oh, no, they've discovered this connection.

521
00:33:08.799 --> 00:33:11.680
<v Speaker 2>We have to now cover our tracks, and then it

522
00:33:11.759 --> 00:33:16.880
<v Speaker 2>being entirely you know, just ignored from then on, you know,

523
00:33:17.000 --> 00:33:20.400
<v Speaker 2>basically going forward, and all of this was sort of

524
00:33:21.640 --> 00:33:24.799
<v Speaker 2>you know, they I think there was a process of

525
00:33:24.839 --> 00:33:29.279
<v Speaker 2>concealing this very important information in order to falsify these

526
00:33:29.440 --> 00:33:33.519
<v Speaker 2>uh these the the evidence, right, and and that was

527
00:33:33.559 --> 00:33:36.960
<v Speaker 2>the whole point was to uh. In the context of

528
00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:42.200
<v Speaker 2>the memorandum, it basically legitimately says that that they were

529
00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:46.119
<v Speaker 2>falsifying the information in order to bolster the bogus timeline

530
00:33:46.119 --> 00:33:50.200
<v Speaker 2>of the state and so that in itself, uh, you know,

531
00:33:50.319 --> 00:33:54.359
<v Speaker 2>I think is I think that's a correct interpretation of

532
00:33:54.400 --> 00:33:57.000
<v Speaker 2>how it how it happened. And when the FBI was

533
00:33:57.039 --> 00:34:00.880
<v Speaker 2>removed from the Delphi case, that in itself proves out

534
00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:04.880
<v Speaker 2>to kind of lend credibility to the idea that that

535
00:34:05.079 --> 00:34:09.320
<v Speaker 2>obviously this was not going to come out publicly in

536
00:34:09.440 --> 00:34:12.800
<v Speaker 2>any real way. And so this state there was like

537
00:34:12.840 --> 00:34:19.039
<v Speaker 2>a essentially the state police superintendent. He decides he's going

538
00:34:19.079 --> 00:34:20.960
<v Speaker 2>to pull the plug and kick the FBI off the

539
00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:26.360
<v Speaker 2>Delphi murder case in twenty twenty one. And all of

540
00:34:26.400 --> 00:34:35.840
<v Speaker 2>that is over some conflicts, apparently some sort of ridiculous

541
00:34:35.880 --> 00:34:40.440
<v Speaker 2>alleged conflicts. They're they're going to force the FBI off

542
00:34:40.480 --> 00:34:43.000
<v Speaker 2>the case. And this all happened at the exact same

543
00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:45.320
<v Speaker 2>time that one of the federal agents in the investigative

544
00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:51.440
<v Speaker 2>task Force was essentially executed in broad daylight. And so

545
00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:56.440
<v Speaker 2>what we have here is Todd Klick, right, the former

546
00:34:56.480 --> 00:34:59.960
<v Speaker 2>investigator on the task force's He's thought to have been

547
00:35:00.159 --> 00:35:05.239
<v Speaker 2>the strongest piece of evidence for Andrew Baldwin and Brad Rossey,

548
00:35:05.280 --> 00:35:12.519
<v Speaker 2>the attorneys for Richard Allen. And so basically this three

549
00:35:12.559 --> 00:35:17.760
<v Speaker 2>man investigative unit that formed in twenty eighteen, as I mentioned,

550
00:35:17.880 --> 00:35:23.320
<v Speaker 2>was formed in order to investigate obviously, the odinism connections

551
00:35:23.320 --> 00:35:27.599
<v Speaker 2>to the ritual killings. And so you had, in the

552
00:35:27.639 --> 00:35:30.360
<v Speaker 2>exact same time that the FBI is removed from the

553
00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:35.119
<v Speaker 2>murder case, you have this task force that's disbanded. And

554
00:35:35.199 --> 00:35:38.360
<v Speaker 2>so this task force is disbanded at the exact same

555
00:35:38.440 --> 00:35:42.159
<v Speaker 2>time that Detective Greg Farrency is murdered in twenty twenty one.

556
00:35:42.639 --> 00:35:46.239
<v Speaker 2>Just after is when the task force is disbanded and

557
00:35:46.280 --> 00:35:49.920
<v Speaker 2>the FBI is removed from the case. So this is

558
00:35:49.960 --> 00:35:52.960
<v Speaker 2>all very interesting to me because a federal grand jury

559
00:35:53.000 --> 00:35:59.079
<v Speaker 2>in Indianapolis, they essentially return an indictment charging this Terry

560
00:35:59.079 --> 00:36:02.639
<v Speaker 2>hout man with the murder of a federal officer. Now,

561
00:36:02.800 --> 00:36:05.920
<v Speaker 2>when you look into who killed Detective Greg Ferency, who

562
00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:09.280
<v Speaker 2>was on the Odinism task force, it turns out that

563
00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:14.599
<v Speaker 2>it was this individual from Terry hout who was he

564
00:36:14.840 --> 00:36:18.519
<v Speaker 2>attempted arson of a federal property as well, and used

565
00:36:18.519 --> 00:36:22.239
<v Speaker 2>a firearm in order to commit the killing. Obviously, But

566
00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:25.360
<v Speaker 2>his name was Shane Meehan, all right, He's forty five

567
00:36:25.480 --> 00:36:29.760
<v Speaker 2>years old at the time. And it turns out this

568
00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:33.800
<v Speaker 2>is July seventh, twenty twenty one, and he decides he's

569
00:36:33.840 --> 00:36:37.079
<v Speaker 2>going to show up to the federal building where Officer

570
00:36:37.159 --> 00:36:39.679
<v Speaker 2>Greg Ferency is located. He was a member of the

571
00:36:39.719 --> 00:36:45.400
<v Speaker 2>three person task force. And so it turns out Mehan

572
00:36:45.679 --> 00:36:49.000
<v Speaker 2>had previously been charged by a federal criminal complaint filed

573
00:36:49.000 --> 00:36:52.920
<v Speaker 2>on July eighth, and according to the documents, Mehann drove

574
00:36:52.960 --> 00:36:55.599
<v Speaker 2>his pickup truck to the gate of the FBI Resident

575
00:36:55.800 --> 00:37:00.639
<v Speaker 2>Agency building in Terry Hout. Meehann exited his truck and

576
00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:05.320
<v Speaker 2>throw a Molotov cocktail toward the building just after Terry

577
00:37:05.320 --> 00:37:09.159
<v Speaker 2>Hout police detective and FBI Task Force Officer Greg Referency.

578
00:37:09.719 --> 00:37:11.840
<v Speaker 2>It was almost as if he just pulls up to

579
00:37:11.880 --> 00:37:16.679
<v Speaker 2>the federal building lobs a Molotov cocktail at the building

580
00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:23.000
<v Speaker 2>in order to lure out the only individual. Right let's say,

581
00:37:23.000 --> 00:37:26.760
<v Speaker 2>Greg Ferency is clearly the priority target. But this is

582
00:37:26.800 --> 00:37:30.719
<v Speaker 2>an attempt to lure out a federal agent in order

583
00:37:30.760 --> 00:37:32.880
<v Speaker 2>to execute them on the steps like it very much

584
00:37:32.920 --> 00:37:36.159
<v Speaker 2>seems as if this is what happens, because it turns

585
00:37:36.199 --> 00:37:40.320
<v Speaker 2>out that he drives to the federal building, he exited

586
00:37:40.599 --> 00:37:43.599
<v Speaker 2>his truck, throws a Molotov cocktail toward the building, and

587
00:37:43.960 --> 00:37:47.079
<v Speaker 2>Just after this, you have Greg Ferenncy walk out of

588
00:37:47.079 --> 00:37:51.960
<v Speaker 2>the FBI building and confront Mehan, and he's holding a

589
00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:55.039
<v Speaker 2>gun at the time. Mehan shoots the task force officer

590
00:37:55.480 --> 00:38:00.480
<v Speaker 2>and he dies shortly after. And so the FBI agent

591
00:38:00.519 --> 00:38:03.800
<v Speaker 2>inside the office allegedly heard the shots, came out and

592
00:38:03.800 --> 00:38:06.920
<v Speaker 2>got into a gun battle with Mehn, and so Mehen

593
00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:10.119
<v Speaker 2>was reportedly hit twice, managed to somehow get to his

594
00:38:10.159 --> 00:38:13.599
<v Speaker 2>truck drive to the hospital. He undergoes surgery for his

595
00:38:13.639 --> 00:38:17.079
<v Speaker 2>wounds and was later taken into custody. Now I looked

596
00:38:17.079 --> 00:38:20.159
<v Speaker 2>this guy up and I discovered that Shane Meehan, this

597
00:38:20.239 --> 00:38:23.559
<v Speaker 2>accused gunman in the shooting, having to be a former

598
00:38:23.639 --> 00:38:27.000
<v Speaker 2>employee of the high security federal prison in Terry Hout.

599
00:38:28.000 --> 00:38:32.639
<v Speaker 2>So I thought instant connection to the potential, right the

600
00:38:32.679 --> 00:38:36.599
<v Speaker 2>correctional officer, the correctional officers who had been clearly members

601
00:38:36.639 --> 00:38:41.480
<v Speaker 2>of the Odinisk group and and you know, providing it

602
00:38:42.159 --> 00:38:47.400
<v Speaker 2>as far as just you know, exercising their loyalty obviously publicly.

603
00:38:47.440 --> 00:38:50.519
<v Speaker 2>And so it looks as if me I personally thought

604
00:38:50.559 --> 00:38:53.280
<v Speaker 2>instantly this guy had some sort of connection to that

605
00:38:53.480 --> 00:38:56.599
<v Speaker 2>very organization and there was a reason why he had

606
00:38:56.599 --> 00:39:01.320
<v Speaker 2>spent so many years at this maximum facility prison in

607
00:39:01.440 --> 00:39:04.559
<v Speaker 2>Terry Hout, So it made sense to me. It fit

608
00:39:04.639 --> 00:39:09.039
<v Speaker 2>this sort of you know, just fundamentally pattern recognition. It

609
00:39:09.079 --> 00:39:12.400
<v Speaker 2>was hard to ignore. But he even runs for mayor,

610
00:39:13.039 --> 00:39:16.800
<v Speaker 2>this guy as an independent in twenty nineteen and he

611
00:39:16.840 --> 00:39:19.320
<v Speaker 2>finished last in a four way race with one percent

612
00:39:19.360 --> 00:39:22.159
<v Speaker 2>of the vote. And if you can believe it, Man

613
00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:26.719
<v Speaker 2>he ran on an anti gun violence platform, which is

614
00:39:26.760 --> 00:39:30.280
<v Speaker 2>so funny. And there's a video story on me Hen

615
00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:33.960
<v Speaker 2>who and his candidacy for mayor and says he had

616
00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:36.480
<v Speaker 2>lived in Terry Hout his entire life. He retired from

617
00:39:36.519 --> 00:39:39.519
<v Speaker 2>the Terry House Federal Penitentiary and was working for UPS

618
00:39:39.559 --> 00:39:43.000
<v Speaker 2>in twenty nineteen. Man said he wanted to show that

619
00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:46.599
<v Speaker 2>a political outsider could win and said schools were one

620
00:39:46.639 --> 00:39:51.559
<v Speaker 2>of the biggest challenges Terry Hout faced. But yeah, it

621
00:39:52.039 --> 00:39:56.119
<v Speaker 2>turns out that a federal court would conveniently rule that

622
00:39:56.159 --> 00:39:59.519
<v Speaker 2>Shane Meehan and this is in November twenty fifth, twenty

623
00:39:59.599 --> 00:40:02.960
<v Speaker 2>twenty five, or he's not competent to stand trial for

624
00:40:03.000 --> 00:40:05.360
<v Speaker 2>the twenty twenty one fatal shooting of Terry Help police

625
00:40:05.400 --> 00:40:09.119
<v Speaker 2>detective and FBI lia soon Greg Pharisee so to me,

626
00:40:09.800 --> 00:40:14.559
<v Speaker 2>it lends credibility to the idea this individual performed targeted

627
00:40:14.559 --> 00:40:19.400
<v Speaker 2>assassination on behalf of the organization to continue to one

628
00:40:19.920 --> 00:40:23.159
<v Speaker 2>provide a pretext to remove the FBI from the case,

629
00:40:23.920 --> 00:40:29.320
<v Speaker 2>also to provide an avenue to legitimately disbanding the task

630
00:40:29.360 --> 00:40:32.280
<v Speaker 2>force who were solely, you know, given the purpose of

631
00:40:32.840 --> 00:40:35.920
<v Speaker 2>as I mentioned before, investigating the olderness signatures of the

632
00:40:35.920 --> 00:40:40.239
<v Speaker 2>crime scene. So that in itself fascinating to me, and

633
00:40:42.559 --> 00:40:46.639
<v Speaker 2>especially since this judge clearly claims that he's suffering from

634
00:40:46.639 --> 00:40:51.119
<v Speaker 2>a mental disease, rendering him mentally incompetent to the extent

635
00:40:51.159 --> 00:40:53.119
<v Speaker 2>that he is unable to understand the nature and the

636
00:40:53.159 --> 00:40:56.320
<v Speaker 2>consequences of the proceedings against him or assist properly in

637
00:40:56.360 --> 00:40:59.880
<v Speaker 2>his defense. So to me, I also think, like, you know,

638
00:41:00.039 --> 00:41:04.559
<v Speaker 2>what happens if if if you are an asset and

639
00:41:04.920 --> 00:41:08.800
<v Speaker 2>you're you're essentially At times, I feel as if some

640
00:41:08.840 --> 00:41:12.920
<v Speaker 2>of these assets are are given false promises right as

641
00:41:12.920 --> 00:41:16.320
<v Speaker 2>if they they will come out on the other side

642
00:41:16.320 --> 00:41:21.719
<v Speaker 2>of this sort of you know, with with their proper

643
00:41:21.719 --> 00:41:25.840
<v Speaker 2>defense and protection in place by the by providing and

644
00:41:25.880 --> 00:41:29.920
<v Speaker 2>showing and exercising their loyalty to the organization they would

645
00:41:29.960 --> 00:41:32.719
<v Speaker 2>be taken care of, but more times than not, I

646
00:41:32.760 --> 00:41:34.679
<v Speaker 2>think they're kind of hung out to dry and they're

647
00:41:34.719 --> 00:41:38.360
<v Speaker 2>they're you know, as far as uh uh, what's it

648
00:41:38.400 --> 00:41:41.599
<v Speaker 2>called when you're an expendable You're an expendable asset at

649
00:41:41.599 --> 00:41:44.199
<v Speaker 2>this point, and so okay, you're willing to go through this,

650
00:41:44.360 --> 00:41:47.599
<v Speaker 2>but now we have to sort of convince the outside

651
00:41:48.079 --> 00:41:51.360
<v Speaker 2>world that that you have lost your mind effectively and

652
00:41:51.519 --> 00:41:56.719
<v Speaker 2>you are no longer fit to stand trial. And sucks

653
00:41:58.000 --> 00:42:03.559
<v Speaker 2>Jesus my dogs. Anyway, So yeah, to me, I just

654
00:42:03.760 --> 00:42:06.800
<v Speaker 2>thought that there's no way that this is what it

655
00:42:07.360 --> 00:42:11.480
<v Speaker 2>seems to be right at face value. This guy was,

656
00:42:11.760 --> 00:42:15.760
<v Speaker 2>in my mind, I think kind of he was. At

657
00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:18.840
<v Speaker 2>the very least, he was an asset in my mind

658
00:42:18.840 --> 00:42:22.199
<v Speaker 2>that was utilized in order to help the timing of it.

659
00:42:22.239 --> 00:42:27.519
<v Speaker 2>All too convenient. It's hard to believe in coincidence. But yeah,

660
00:42:27.559 --> 00:42:30.960
<v Speaker 2>and then after this, following this, subsequently to it, you

661
00:42:31.039 --> 00:42:34.239
<v Speaker 2>have the federal investigator Todd Klick, whose career and reputation

662
00:42:34.360 --> 00:42:37.519
<v Speaker 2>is entirely destroyed in order to remove him as a witness,

663
00:42:37.599 --> 00:42:41.159
<v Speaker 2>a key witness on behalf of Richard Allen's defense, which

664
00:42:41.440 --> 00:42:43.159
<v Speaker 2>made a lot of sense to me. Right, And that's

665
00:42:43.159 --> 00:42:46.840
<v Speaker 2>another reason why Judge Francis goal would effectively block all

666
00:42:46.880 --> 00:42:50.440
<v Speaker 2>testimony about odinism during the trial of Richard Allen. And

667
00:42:50.480 --> 00:42:54.199
<v Speaker 2>that is another reason how he again, if the jury

668
00:42:54.280 --> 00:42:57.960
<v Speaker 2>can't even hear the credible evidence that seems to have,

669
00:42:58.719 --> 00:43:04.559
<v Speaker 2>you know, real corroborative aspects to it, you know, then

670
00:43:04.599 --> 00:43:07.800
<v Speaker 2>of course you know that this would be the case.

671
00:43:07.880 --> 00:43:13.079
<v Speaker 2>You would effectively have no other priority, you know, perpetrator

672
00:43:13.079 --> 00:43:16.000
<v Speaker 2>that you would focus on, in my mind, and so

673
00:43:16.159 --> 00:43:19.960
<v Speaker 2>that's why you have He comes forward Todd click just

674
00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:23.800
<v Speaker 2>after all this takes place, and he testifies, right, and

675
00:43:24.119 --> 00:43:26.400
<v Speaker 2>it was early in twenty twenty four. He testifies that

676
00:43:27.800 --> 00:43:34.119
<v Speaker 2>essentially this Nick McCleland is the prosecutor. Yeah, I was

677
00:43:34.119 --> 00:43:38.639
<v Speaker 2>thinking that in custody, who wouldn't receive the mk ultra

678
00:43:38.760 --> 00:43:41.400
<v Speaker 2>treatment to a certain extent, right, you know what I mean.

679
00:43:41.480 --> 00:43:46.159
<v Speaker 2>It's like, why wouldn't right, Yeah, why wouldn't you scramble

680
00:43:46.159 --> 00:43:48.280
<v Speaker 2>the brains of Richard Allen at a certain level? And

681
00:43:48.360 --> 00:43:51.679
<v Speaker 2>also why wouldn't he come forward and say sixty different times, yeah,

682
00:43:51.719 --> 00:43:55.400
<v Speaker 2>I did it after he said as this entire other right,

683
00:43:55.639 --> 00:43:59.360
<v Speaker 2>his defense everyone involved is claiming, no, that's impossible. Right,

684
00:43:59.400 --> 00:44:02.800
<v Speaker 2>and he himself has provided so many details to to

685
00:44:04.079 --> 00:44:06.719
<v Speaker 2>uh to the contrary right, and and so it just

686
00:44:06.760 --> 00:44:11.199
<v Speaker 2>to me it seemed as if, especially seeing the trans

687
00:44:11.199 --> 00:44:14.079
<v Speaker 2>transformation that he had once he was already in custody,

688
00:44:14.119 --> 00:44:16.000
<v Speaker 2>he looks like a different person if you saw him

689
00:44:16.000 --> 00:44:18.880
<v Speaker 2>being ushered through within the smock or whatever he's in.

690
00:44:19.360 --> 00:44:25.719
<v Speaker 2>And and and and also consider the the individual Shane

691
00:44:25.719 --> 00:44:30.159
<v Speaker 2>Meehan who goes who's given the task of just driving

692
00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:32.280
<v Speaker 2>up to the federal building and lobbing them all a

693
00:44:32.280 --> 00:44:36.119
<v Speaker 2>toove cocktail to to provoke the one individual you would

694
00:44:36.199 --> 00:44:39.440
<v Speaker 2>need to execute in order to kind of like provide

695
00:44:39.679 --> 00:44:44.199
<v Speaker 2>a plausible, uh, you know, reason to pretext to disband

696
00:44:44.280 --> 00:44:48.159
<v Speaker 2>the task force and remove the FBI federal involvement. It

697
00:44:48.199 --> 00:44:52.119
<v Speaker 2>makes sense. And and so anyway, Todd Klick, he feels

698
00:44:52.159 --> 00:44:54.519
<v Speaker 2>the need to come forward, and I'm almost done finally

699
00:44:54.559 --> 00:44:56.519
<v Speaker 2>with well we'll get to the end of this and

700
00:44:56.519 --> 00:45:02.639
<v Speaker 2>and uh, I'll come to to a conclusion. But but

701
00:45:02.639 --> 00:45:06.760
<v Speaker 2>but it's interesting because Todd Klick, right, he comes forward.

702
00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:11.840
<v Speaker 2>He's telling the prosecutor Nick McCleland, after Richard Allen's arrest

703
00:45:11.880 --> 00:45:15.800
<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty two that he's clearly concerned about the

704
00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:18.800
<v Speaker 2>substance behind Allan's conviction or as far as his arrest

705
00:45:18.960 --> 00:45:22.559
<v Speaker 2>in terms of the the uh uh, the actual evidence

706
00:45:22.559 --> 00:45:25.559
<v Speaker 2>and allegations against him. Yeah, that's a different person, dude.

707
00:45:25.679 --> 00:45:27.280
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean. Like, I'm not saying that

708
00:45:27.400 --> 00:45:31.119
<v Speaker 2>prison doesn't do that to you, but I mean, you

709
00:45:31.159 --> 00:45:32.679
<v Speaker 2>know that's that's.

710
00:45:33.559 --> 00:45:35.320
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, A look like he lost a lot of weight, bro,

711
00:45:35.400 --> 00:45:37.599
<v Speaker 5>because in prison, a lot of people I've never been,

712
00:45:37.719 --> 00:45:39.000
<v Speaker 5>of course, but I can say a lot.

713
00:45:38.960 --> 00:45:39.920
<v Speaker 6>Of people have worked out.

714
00:45:40.079 --> 00:45:42.599
<v Speaker 5>And you know, my brother actually been in and out

715
00:45:42.599 --> 00:45:45.119
<v Speaker 5>of jail and stuff like that. And when he before

716
00:45:45.119 --> 00:45:47.320
<v Speaker 5>he went in, he was very skinny. When he came out,

717
00:45:47.400 --> 00:45:50.360
<v Speaker 5>well just a year, he was huge, And I was like, damn,

718
00:45:50.719 --> 00:45:52.559
<v Speaker 5>the hell was you doing? He said, You know, all

719
00:45:52.599 --> 00:45:54.320
<v Speaker 5>he did was work out. You know what I'm saying.

720
00:45:54.360 --> 00:45:56.920
<v Speaker 5>And you know, you can look at his shirt. Something

721
00:45:56.960 --> 00:45:59.239
<v Speaker 5>happened to him. You know, there's a reason why his

722
00:45:59.280 --> 00:46:03.320
<v Speaker 5>attorney took his picture like that. So I mean something. Yeah,

723
00:46:04.239 --> 00:46:06.719
<v Speaker 5>I'm starting to see what you're talking about. I was

724
00:46:06.719 --> 00:46:09.199
<v Speaker 5>pulling up the court documents and reading it and going

725
00:46:09.199 --> 00:46:11.679
<v Speaker 5>through it and stuff like that. You're very knowledgeable on that.

726
00:46:11.760 --> 00:46:13.360
<v Speaker 5>So I want to thank you for giving me this

727
00:46:13.480 --> 00:46:16.719
<v Speaker 5>knowledge on it, because I like history, and I love religion,

728
00:46:16.840 --> 00:46:20.440
<v Speaker 5>I love mythology, and everything that you talked about goes

729
00:46:20.480 --> 00:46:22.800
<v Speaker 5>back to some part part of that. I mean, I

730
00:46:22.840 --> 00:46:24.480
<v Speaker 5>brought up some of the terror cars that you were

731
00:46:24.480 --> 00:46:27.599
<v Speaker 5>talking about, and they had some of the Egyptian sphinx

732
00:46:27.679 --> 00:46:29.880
<v Speaker 5>on there. So all that stuff right there is something

733
00:46:30.559 --> 00:46:32.719
<v Speaker 5>like I said, symbolism plays a big old part in

734
00:46:32.760 --> 00:46:34.920
<v Speaker 5>our communication. The problem is is we don't have the

735
00:46:35.000 --> 00:46:38.280
<v Speaker 5>knowledge behind what symbolism means because everybody has their own

736
00:46:38.880 --> 00:46:39.280
<v Speaker 5>way of.

737
00:46:39.199 --> 00:46:39.880
<v Speaker 6>Putting it in there.

738
00:46:39.920 --> 00:46:42.719
<v Speaker 5>It's just like people making up their own new words

739
00:46:42.760 --> 00:46:44.960
<v Speaker 5>for their own narrative, right, And you have to be

740
00:46:45.039 --> 00:46:48.519
<v Speaker 5>knowledgeable on their narrative and their words to understand both.

741
00:46:49.320 --> 00:46:54.440
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, man, Yeah, I agree as far as like and

742
00:46:54.760 --> 00:46:59.639
<v Speaker 2>you look at the obvious transformation like I personally knowing

743
00:46:59.800 --> 00:47:04.119
<v Speaker 2>just the individuals who have been affected by those very

744
00:47:04.199 --> 00:47:07.639
<v Speaker 2>same techniques, and just like a Jack Ruby for example,

745
00:47:07.719 --> 00:47:10.280
<v Speaker 2>right where it's like, my god, that that guy was

746
00:47:10.360 --> 00:47:15.320
<v Speaker 2>obviously visited by Jolly on you know, uh West, doctor

747
00:47:15.400 --> 00:47:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Jolly West, right, and and one hundred percent after this happens,

748
00:47:20.000 --> 00:47:23.360
<v Speaker 2>what what occurred with Jack Ruby? Right? And remember when

749
00:47:23.360 --> 00:47:25.800
<v Speaker 2>Tom O'Neil goes on Rogan and he tells him about

750
00:47:26.559 --> 00:47:29.480
<v Speaker 2>essentially what it had taken place to Jack Ruby while

751
00:47:29.480 --> 00:47:33.119
<v Speaker 2>he was in custody. And essentially it was basically a

752
00:47:33.239 --> 00:47:36.840
<v Speaker 2>well one after Jack Ruby shoots Oswald, right, you have

753
00:47:36.920 --> 00:47:39.039
<v Speaker 2>reporters who just go to his place in his apartment,

754
00:47:39.119 --> 00:47:42.119
<v Speaker 2>rummaging around and all his things, uh, you know, and

755
00:47:42.239 --> 00:47:45.360
<v Speaker 2>uh and a significant number of those those reporters who

756
00:47:45.400 --> 00:47:50.000
<v Speaker 2>were rummaging around his his uh, his his apartment, they

757
00:47:50.039 --> 00:47:53.480
<v Speaker 2>all just seemed to later die under very mysterious circumstances

758
00:47:53.480 --> 00:47:57.039
<v Speaker 2>of course, and and uh. And so it turns out

759
00:47:57.039 --> 00:48:01.400
<v Speaker 2>that that basically Jolly West when he inserts himself into

760
00:48:01.400 --> 00:48:04.719
<v Speaker 2>that case. He goes to the Dallas County Jail and

761
00:48:04.800 --> 00:48:07.360
<v Speaker 2>in April of sixty four, right, and and this is

762
00:48:07.400 --> 00:48:11.039
<v Speaker 2>to psychologically examine Jack Ruby in preparation for his next trial.

763
00:48:12.039 --> 00:48:14.679
<v Speaker 2>And this is right when Jack Ruby's like, I'm gonna

764
00:48:14.679 --> 00:48:18.159
<v Speaker 2>blow the lid off this shit, like, you know, I

765
00:48:18.320 --> 00:48:20.920
<v Speaker 2>if I'm not going to have a complete and total

766
00:48:20.920 --> 00:48:24.000
<v Speaker 2>protect Oh yeah, they mk ultra Jack Ruby and and

767
00:48:24.039 --> 00:48:26.800
<v Speaker 2>so one of and by the way, he's connected to

768
00:48:26.920 --> 00:48:30.360
<v Speaker 2>the club where Heidi Reich and the White House call Girl,

769
00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:34.519
<v Speaker 2>and all the individuals who were politically affiliated with the

770
00:48:34.639 --> 00:48:38.119
<v Speaker 2>JFK assassination. They were partying at this club in Dallas,

771
00:48:38.159 --> 00:48:40.920
<v Speaker 2>and Jack Ruby was there with Lee Harvey Oswald and

772
00:48:41.000 --> 00:48:44.840
<v Speaker 2>Officer JD. Tippett one hundred percent and and also like

773
00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:46.880
<v Speaker 2>there were owners of football teams that were there that

774
00:48:47.039 --> 00:48:50.559
<v Speaker 2>was Texas oil men like and uh and it was

775
00:48:50.719 --> 00:48:53.719
<v Speaker 2>very interesting. But but that was all in Phil Stafford's

776
00:48:53.719 --> 00:48:56.679
<v Speaker 2>book The White House Call Girl. Very interesting book about

777
00:48:56.760 --> 00:49:00.920
<v Speaker 2>Watergate technically. But but I'll finish this point and they

778
00:49:00.920 --> 00:49:05.280
<v Speaker 2>get back to the actual conclusion. But the point being

779
00:49:05.360 --> 00:49:08.760
<v Speaker 2>is that Jack Ruby's willing to talk, right. He's like, Man,

780
00:49:09.320 --> 00:49:11.719
<v Speaker 2>if I'm going to have to take the fall for this,

781
00:49:11.880 --> 00:49:16.760
<v Speaker 2>then I'm not going out silent, right. And so one

782
00:49:16.800 --> 00:49:21.119
<v Speaker 2>of Jolly West known techniques, by the way, was learned

783
00:49:21.159 --> 00:49:24.559
<v Speaker 2>throughout his research in the fifties, okay, and this was

784
00:49:24.679 --> 00:49:27.400
<v Speaker 2>how to induce insanity in a person without their knowledge

785
00:49:27.480 --> 00:49:31.800
<v Speaker 2>or awareness. And so West goes into examine Ruby, and

786
00:49:31.840 --> 00:49:34.800
<v Speaker 2>he would emerge from the county jail with the press

787
00:49:35.400 --> 00:49:37.840
<v Speaker 2>waiting for him to give a statement, and he announces

788
00:49:37.880 --> 00:49:41.639
<v Speaker 2>that within the preceding forty eight hours, Ruby happened to

789
00:49:41.639 --> 00:49:46.079
<v Speaker 2>have an acute psychotic break that was irrevocable. He couldn't

790
00:49:46.119 --> 00:49:50.079
<v Speaker 2>return to sanity. He had audio and visual hallucinations, and

791
00:49:50.199 --> 00:49:53.000
<v Speaker 2>during the exam, he said Ruby hit under a table

792
00:49:53.079 --> 00:49:55.280
<v Speaker 2>because he thought there were people in the room trying

793
00:49:55.320 --> 00:49:58.480
<v Speaker 2>to kill him. He told West that he could hear

794
00:49:58.599 --> 00:50:02.920
<v Speaker 2>Jewish children's scream outside of jail cell as they were

795
00:50:03.119 --> 00:50:08.719
<v Speaker 2>boiled alive. That alone, I thought was very interesting, and

796
00:50:08.760 --> 00:50:14.320
<v Speaker 2>so especially when prior to his exam West exam there

797
00:50:14.360 --> 00:50:17.320
<v Speaker 2>was no evidence whatsoever that Ruby was mentally ill. And

798
00:50:18.039 --> 00:50:20.960
<v Speaker 2>West was alone with him in the cell and then

799
00:50:21.000 --> 00:50:23.239
<v Speaker 2>treated him for the next six months. And by the

800
00:50:23.239 --> 00:50:26.039
<v Speaker 2>time Ruby finally gave his testimony to the Warren Commission,

801
00:50:26.559 --> 00:50:31.239
<v Speaker 2>he was reportedly babbling and incoherent. He grabbed the investigator

802
00:50:31.239 --> 00:50:33.800
<v Speaker 2>for the Warren Commission, named Arlen Spector, and he said,

803
00:50:34.199 --> 00:50:38.519
<v Speaker 2>don't you know they're killing Jews. I can hear them

804
00:50:38.559 --> 00:50:42.119
<v Speaker 2>being tortured outside my cell. They've killed my brother and

805
00:50:42.159 --> 00:50:45.400
<v Speaker 2>cut off his legs. They couldn't use anything from Jack

806
00:50:45.480 --> 00:50:48.920
<v Speaker 2>Ruby's testimony to the Warren Commission. That's the whole, sole

807
00:50:48.960 --> 00:50:51.440
<v Speaker 2>purpose of what happened to him. In my mind, that

808
00:50:51.519 --> 00:50:56.519
<v Speaker 2>was induced insanity by Jolly West, who's you know, a

809
00:50:56.639 --> 00:51:00.440
<v Speaker 2>known operative behind him k Ultra and worked directly under

810
00:51:00.559 --> 00:51:03.760
<v Speaker 2>doctor Sidney Gottlieb, the black sorcer of m k LTRA himself,

811
00:51:03.800 --> 00:51:09.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, and and and so yeah, with with man,

812
00:51:09.360 --> 00:51:11.960
<v Speaker 2>it's it's so fascinating. And I'll finish with with the

813
00:51:12.199 --> 00:51:16.039
<v Speaker 2>with this really because it's it's basically just that Todd

814
00:51:16.079 --> 00:51:18.760
<v Speaker 2>Klik was was one hundred percent. I think he was

815
00:51:18.920 --> 00:51:22.480
<v Speaker 2>deliberately targeted to destroy his reputation and it was all

816
00:51:22.559 --> 00:51:24.000
<v Speaker 2>due to the fact that he was going to blow

817
00:51:24.039 --> 00:51:27.199
<v Speaker 2>the lid off of this thing by providing the defense

818
00:51:27.280 --> 00:51:30.119
<v Speaker 2>for Richard Allen with a key witness who was a

819
00:51:30.280 --> 00:51:35.599
<v Speaker 2>member of an investigative federal task force investigating odonism. And

820
00:51:35.599 --> 00:51:38.559
<v Speaker 2>and and that is fascinating to me. So so he

821
00:51:40.000 --> 00:51:44.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, he basically Richard Allen, right, he expresses ah

822
00:51:45.960 --> 00:51:49.639
<v Speaker 2>essentially Richard Allen himself. As I mentioned, he's just a

823
00:51:49.679 --> 00:51:52.119
<v Speaker 2>shell of a human being anymore. And I'm not sure

824
00:51:52.199 --> 00:51:54.320
<v Speaker 2>what his state of mind is at this point. I

825
00:51:54.320 --> 00:51:57.760
<v Speaker 2>don't think he's making any statements whatsoever, but I haven't

826
00:51:57.800 --> 00:52:00.360
<v Speaker 2>yet followed up, so I would like to at this moment,

827
00:52:00.440 --> 00:52:03.800
<v Speaker 2>but I'm wondering what the latest is on his sort

828
00:52:03.840 --> 00:52:07.079
<v Speaker 2>of defense attorneys and what they've kind of made public

829
00:52:07.119 --> 00:52:09.000
<v Speaker 2>as far as their statements, because I'm sure there are

830
00:52:09.079 --> 00:52:14.079
<v Speaker 2>some you know, more recent and more relevant connections here,

831
00:52:14.119 --> 00:52:20.920
<v Speaker 2>but basically Richard Allen's defense, you know, they for the

832
00:52:21.000 --> 00:52:23.559
<v Speaker 2>longest time and still to this day, as far as

833
00:52:23.559 --> 00:52:26.440
<v Speaker 2>I can tell, have held this belief that it was

834
00:52:26.519 --> 00:52:29.400
<v Speaker 2>men with ties to Odinism that killed the girls as

835
00:52:29.440 --> 00:52:35.159
<v Speaker 2>part of a ritual sacrifice. And it's essentially they were

836
00:52:35.199 --> 00:52:37.960
<v Speaker 2>no longer allowed to bring that information before the jury

837
00:52:38.800 --> 00:52:41.800
<v Speaker 2>by October fourteenth of twenty twenty four, I believe, and

838
00:52:42.159 --> 00:52:47.039
<v Speaker 2>that included information the defense may have had on Ronald Logan,

839
00:52:47.440 --> 00:52:53.679
<v Speaker 2>Keegan Klein, including even like geo fencing data, and McCleland

840
00:52:53.920 --> 00:52:57.800
<v Speaker 2>objected to Click's assertions, claimed Click may have a history

841
00:52:57.800 --> 00:53:01.199
<v Speaker 2>of lying. So he instantly starts brings in the notion

842
00:53:01.360 --> 00:53:05.519
<v Speaker 2>that you know and kind of provides this sort of

843
00:53:06.920 --> 00:53:12.199
<v Speaker 2>pretext the public perception that this man has no you know,

844
00:53:12.519 --> 00:53:16.639
<v Speaker 2>real credibility. And so this is the prosecutor McClelland so

845
00:53:17.199 --> 00:53:21.880
<v Speaker 2>I think prosecutors, you know, what are they known for?

846
00:53:22.639 --> 00:53:22.840
<v Speaker 6>Right?

847
00:53:22.920 --> 00:53:26.800
<v Speaker 2>It's like, I don't really think prosecutor's word is worth

848
00:53:26.840 --> 00:53:29.880
<v Speaker 2>taking at face value, but that's my personal opinion. And

849
00:53:29.960 --> 00:53:33.320
<v Speaker 2>so he then requests Clicks employment records after he makes

850
00:53:33.360 --> 00:53:37.840
<v Speaker 2>that public statement, and it was later reported in April

851
00:53:37.880 --> 00:53:41.119
<v Speaker 2>of twenty twenty four of last year, which that basically

852
00:53:41.599 --> 00:53:45.119
<v Speaker 2>this is when Francis Gold, the Special Judge, had approved

853
00:53:45.880 --> 00:53:49.800
<v Speaker 2>Carroll County Prosecutor Nicholas McClelland's motion to get Rushville Police

854
00:53:49.880 --> 00:53:53.440
<v Speaker 2>Chief Todd Klick's personnel records to discover if he had

855
00:53:53.440 --> 00:53:56.320
<v Speaker 2>any issues that might impeach his credibility as a witness

856
00:53:56.360 --> 00:53:59.599
<v Speaker 2>for del Fi murder suspect Richard Allen. That's the path

857
00:53:59.639 --> 00:54:02.599
<v Speaker 2>you would take if you wanted to undermine the credibility

858
00:54:02.599 --> 00:54:06.559
<v Speaker 2>of an investigator who who had clearly the what what

859
00:54:07.159 --> 00:54:10.559
<v Speaker 2>Todd Klick claims is that the UH, the statements that

860
00:54:10.559 --> 00:54:13.239
<v Speaker 2>had been made claiming that he had made that he

861
00:54:13.280 --> 00:54:16.760
<v Speaker 2>had essentially lied in former reports that he had made

862
00:54:17.079 --> 00:54:21.320
<v Speaker 2>or filed were all just deliberately manufactured lies in order

863
00:54:21.360 --> 00:54:25.679
<v Speaker 2>to undermine his for that sole purpose, to undermine his credibility.

864
00:54:25.679 --> 00:54:30.800
<v Speaker 2>And and so this is where after they they get

865
00:54:30.920 --> 00:54:34.159
<v Speaker 2>a hold of his personnel records, then this is when

866
00:54:34.199 --> 00:54:37.440
<v Speaker 2>you have sort of this UH Clicks investigation into the

867
00:54:37.440 --> 00:54:40.840
<v Speaker 2>Olderness being involved in the killings of the Delphi teenagers.

868
00:54:40.880 --> 00:54:47.199
<v Speaker 2>Obviously uh being entirely just disregarded by the the court judge,

869
00:54:47.239 --> 00:54:50.159
<v Speaker 2>by the judge who was presiding over the trial itself,

870
00:54:50.199 --> 00:54:55.760
<v Speaker 2>and the prosecutor then indicates that they believed Clicks employee

871
00:54:55.800 --> 00:54:59.000
<v Speaker 2>records would show and this before they even looked at them,

872
00:54:59.199 --> 00:55:03.079
<v Speaker 2>would show into of untruthfulness or credibility issues. So they're

873
00:55:03.119 --> 00:55:06.360
<v Speaker 2>just laying the bread crumbs for anyone who's following along

874
00:55:06.400 --> 00:55:09.599
<v Speaker 2>with the reporting on this trial. And so in the

875
00:55:09.639 --> 00:55:13.199
<v Speaker 2>subpoena that ordered the so there was a motion right

876
00:55:13.280 --> 00:55:15.519
<v Speaker 2>that was included in the subpoena that ordered the Rushville

877
00:55:15.519 --> 00:55:18.760
<v Speaker 2>Police chief to turn over the documents, and according to

878
00:55:19.519 --> 00:55:23.960
<v Speaker 2>these online records, Francis Goull, the judge, signed the court

879
00:55:24.119 --> 00:55:27.360
<v Speaker 2>order for the subpoena, and Rushville Police Chief Todd Klick,

880
00:55:27.519 --> 00:55:31.400
<v Speaker 2>member of the Odinism Investigative Unit, formed in twenty eighteen

881
00:55:31.559 --> 00:55:35.519
<v Speaker 2>just after the killings and an expected key defense witness

882
00:55:35.559 --> 00:55:39.119
<v Speaker 2>in the Delphi murders trial, was subsequently arrested and charged

883
00:55:39.199 --> 00:55:44.400
<v Speaker 2>by Ripley County authorities with forgery, official misconduct, and obstruction

884
00:55:44.559 --> 00:55:47.079
<v Speaker 2>of a child abuse assessment while working as a family

885
00:55:47.119 --> 00:55:49.719
<v Speaker 2>case manager with the Department of Child Services from July

886
00:55:49.840 --> 00:55:53.199
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty three to March twenty twenty four. And that

887
00:55:53.440 --> 00:55:56.559
<v Speaker 2>was when Judge Francis Goule used that as an opportunity

888
00:55:57.000 --> 00:56:00.360
<v Speaker 2>to block all testimony about odinism during the trial virtual Allen.

889
00:56:00.679 --> 00:56:04.119
<v Speaker 2>So that's all that it took. We we burn Todd

890
00:56:04.199 --> 00:56:08.920
<v Speaker 2>Klick at the stake, right, we've already effectively managed Greg

891
00:56:08.960 --> 00:56:15.159
<v Speaker 2>Ferency's dead right. The other investigator, Kevin Murphy, I believe

892
00:56:15.239 --> 00:56:17.800
<v Speaker 2>was his name. He I think he saw the writing

893
00:56:17.840 --> 00:56:20.159
<v Speaker 2>on the wall. You know. He basically says, man, I'm

894
00:56:20.199 --> 00:56:22.760
<v Speaker 2>gonna keep my mouth shut. I know what's good for me,

895
00:56:22.960 --> 00:56:24.960
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. Honestly, that's what it seems like.

896
00:56:25.480 --> 00:56:27.880
<v Speaker 2>Because I would like to look further into if he

897
00:56:28.239 --> 00:56:33.519
<v Speaker 2>has had any kind of like uh, just just sort

898
00:56:33.559 --> 00:56:37.760
<v Speaker 2>of like ethical right grappling with his moral foundation in

899
00:56:37.840 --> 00:56:40.280
<v Speaker 2>certain aspects of how he dealt with this and and

900
00:56:40.360 --> 00:56:42.960
<v Speaker 2>uh and has come forward with any statement. I would

901
00:56:43.000 --> 00:56:45.800
<v Speaker 2>be be very curious to find if if that would

902
00:56:45.840 --> 00:56:48.280
<v Speaker 2>have been the case. But who knows. As far as

903
00:56:48.320 --> 00:56:51.079
<v Speaker 2>I know, Kevin Murphy's just kept his mouth shut from

904
00:56:51.079 --> 00:56:54.880
<v Speaker 2>that moment on and and and as far as the

905
00:56:55.559 --> 00:56:58.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm, for one, very skeptical of the charges being

906
00:56:58.199 --> 00:57:01.440
<v Speaker 2>levied against former investigator Todd click Man. I mean, I

907
00:57:01.480 --> 00:57:05.079
<v Speaker 2>think that this was a strategic undermining of his personal

908
00:57:05.119 --> 00:57:09.119
<v Speaker 2>credibility while you can sort of simultaneously provide the pretext

909
00:57:09.159 --> 00:57:11.559
<v Speaker 2>for the judge to block all the testimony regarding the

910
00:57:11.840 --> 00:57:16.920
<v Speaker 2>clear and obvious Odinus connections. And the initial hearing was held,

911
00:57:17.760 --> 00:57:21.519
<v Speaker 2>it was in October of last year, right, and that's

912
00:57:21.559 --> 00:57:26.639
<v Speaker 2>when you had Todd Klick. He was released on an

913
00:57:26.639 --> 00:57:30.239
<v Speaker 2>or you know, because he didn't have any I mean,

914
00:57:30.320 --> 00:57:32.480
<v Speaker 2>he didn't have any character issues, Like what are we

915
00:57:32.559 --> 00:57:35.440
<v Speaker 2>talking about? This guy was a member of a task

916
00:57:35.480 --> 00:57:39.239
<v Speaker 2>force for a reason, because you know, it's like not

917
00:57:39.280 --> 00:57:42.840
<v Speaker 2>saying that all federal investigators are are moral or anything

918
00:57:42.880 --> 00:57:46.360
<v Speaker 2>of that nature. I'm just saying that usually you aren't

919
00:57:46.440 --> 00:57:50.159
<v Speaker 2>named to a task force unless you're compromised and your

920
00:57:50.239 --> 00:57:54.320
<v Speaker 2>sole purpose is to sort of provide a misdirected narrative

921
00:57:54.800 --> 00:57:59.119
<v Speaker 2>or or at least control the framework of the investigation.

922
00:57:59.760 --> 00:58:03.599
<v Speaker 2>You know, or you're you're undoubtedly, uh, some sort of

923
00:58:03.719 --> 00:58:08.519
<v Speaker 2>honorable individual investigator who is trustworthy and and you know,

924
00:58:08.599 --> 00:58:11.880
<v Speaker 2>worthy enough of being placed onto an investigative task force

925
00:58:11.920 --> 00:58:14.199
<v Speaker 2>of that of this kind, and that they would have

926
00:58:14.280 --> 00:58:17.079
<v Speaker 2>so so much, uh you know, as far as the

927
00:58:17.079 --> 00:58:21.079
<v Speaker 2>consequences the implication of the consequences involved in in that

928
00:58:21.199 --> 00:58:25.199
<v Speaker 2>very investigation, That's how how I would feel at the least.

929
00:58:25.199 --> 00:58:29.239
<v Speaker 2>And and so you have him being released on an

930
00:58:29.239 --> 00:58:32.760
<v Speaker 2>o R. And the pre trial hearing was just a

931
00:58:33.039 --> 00:58:35.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, as far as it's a total joke, and

932
00:58:35.599 --> 00:58:39.719
<v Speaker 2>his actual trial date was set for in February, right,

933
00:58:40.400 --> 00:58:43.960
<v Speaker 2>and then, yeah, Todd Klick was an innocent man. And

934
00:58:44.039 --> 00:58:47.159
<v Speaker 2>so I think they've just forced him into retirement is

935
00:58:47.199 --> 00:58:51.800
<v Speaker 2>basically what happened. And and and for me personally, you know,

936
00:58:51.880 --> 00:58:56.119
<v Speaker 2>I think this is uh, this is evidence of kind

937
00:58:56.159 --> 00:58:59.199
<v Speaker 2>of the inverted moral landscape that we perfectly reside in

938
00:58:59.280 --> 00:59:01.239
<v Speaker 2>at this moment. And I think so much of what

939
00:59:02.119 --> 00:59:07.039
<v Speaker 2>like the uh the sort of I think there's an

940
00:59:07.559 --> 00:59:12.159
<v Speaker 2>inherent exploitation of the God whole within all of us,

941
00:59:12.400 --> 00:59:15.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, whatever you believe that to be or however

942
00:59:15.519 --> 00:59:18.159
<v Speaker 2>you describe that in your own uh you know, kind

943
00:59:18.199 --> 00:59:23.000
<v Speaker 2>of personal just the terms you would prefer to utilize. Uh,

944
00:59:23.320 --> 00:59:26.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, I think it's fundamentally we all are trying

945
00:59:26.880 --> 00:59:29.480
<v Speaker 2>to make sense of this in a desperate way, you know,

946
00:59:29.599 --> 00:59:32.360
<v Speaker 2>in a way to where we're relying on these principles

947
00:59:32.360 --> 00:59:34.920
<v Speaker 2>that many of us have yet to fully identify and

948
00:59:34.920 --> 00:59:39.400
<v Speaker 2>acknowledge and under and become aware of, just as far

949
00:59:39.440 --> 00:59:44.800
<v Speaker 2>as what are the ethical values worthwhile to pursue an

950
00:59:44.840 --> 00:59:48.000
<v Speaker 2>exercise to to add to my what I believe as

951
00:59:48.199 --> 00:59:51.960
<v Speaker 2>the core values worth upholding in my life, and and uh,

952
00:59:52.239 --> 00:59:56.239
<v Speaker 2>and therefore you become, you become susceptible and vulnerable to

953
00:59:56.360 --> 01:00:01.599
<v Speaker 2>this new wage, esoteric ideological system of control in an

954
01:00:01.639 --> 01:00:06.039
<v Speaker 2>attempt to usher us into this trap of embracing these

955
01:00:06.119 --> 01:00:09.760
<v Speaker 2>new age values that I believe are entirely in the

956
01:00:09.800 --> 01:00:16.119
<v Speaker 2>framework of this you know, deliberately and deceptively manufactured inverted

957
01:00:16.159 --> 01:00:20.440
<v Speaker 2>moral landscape. And here we are, you know, we're surrounded

958
01:00:20.480 --> 01:00:24.639
<v Speaker 2>by the pedophile elite, you know, And I mean we're

959
01:00:25.199 --> 01:00:30.159
<v Speaker 2>attempting and every four years we're we're basically convinced that

960
01:00:30.199 --> 01:00:32.480
<v Speaker 2>we have a part to play in the system, you know.

961
01:00:32.960 --> 01:00:36.239
<v Speaker 2>And it's just to me. I think what we should

962
01:00:36.239 --> 01:00:39.639
<v Speaker 2>focus on most is our own personal well being and

963
01:00:39.760 --> 01:00:44.599
<v Speaker 2>our own legitimate core values and our own personal individual

964
01:00:44.639 --> 01:00:48.360
<v Speaker 2>lives and surrounding ourselves with people who I think bring

965
01:00:48.400 --> 01:00:52.519
<v Speaker 2>the best out on you. And you know, that is

966
01:00:52.559 --> 01:00:56.440
<v Speaker 2>what I'm desperate to do, is surround myself with people

967
01:00:56.480 --> 01:01:02.719
<v Speaker 2>who I admire and I can learn from, you know, honestly, guys,

968
01:01:02.760 --> 01:01:06.199
<v Speaker 2>and and so anyway, at this point, I'm just I

969
01:01:06.519 --> 01:01:10.960
<v Speaker 2>definitely believe that that this was a deliberate attempt to

970
01:01:11.000 --> 01:01:16.239
<v Speaker 2>obscure the vision of the general public, right and and yeah,

971
01:01:16.239 --> 01:01:19.079
<v Speaker 2>I think that this this an example and another window

972
01:01:19.159 --> 01:01:23.159
<v Speaker 2>into the darkest layers of modern society, man and and

973
01:01:23.239 --> 01:01:30.639
<v Speaker 2>we're largely remaining in the shadows, right And you mentioned earlier, Uh,

974
01:01:30.679 --> 01:01:34.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, we we talked about mana and and this

975
01:01:34.480 --> 01:01:39.239
<v Speaker 2>sort of even potential cannibalistic nature of some of these

976
01:01:39.360 --> 01:01:43.159
<v Speaker 2>uh you know, blood sacrifices, or at the very least

977
01:01:43.199 --> 01:01:53.039
<v Speaker 2>these sort of ceremonial, symbolic exercises that at least kind

978
01:01:53.119 --> 01:01:59.280
<v Speaker 2>of lend their the the entire ceremony to the idea.

979
01:01:59.519 --> 01:02:05.639
<v Speaker 2>And thisymbolic nature of the blood sacrifice. I think it's uh,

980
01:02:05.800 --> 01:02:10.000
<v Speaker 2>it's just to me, man like, it is very very

981
01:02:10.039 --> 01:02:12.800
<v Speaker 2>strange time that we're living in right at this moment,

982
01:02:12.880 --> 01:02:16.159
<v Speaker 2>and and it's up to us to remain headstrong, honestly,

983
01:02:16.719 --> 01:02:20.000
<v Speaker 2>because I think these individuals that that I view as

984
01:02:20.519 --> 01:02:25.599
<v Speaker 2>through that same lens of of know your enemy, right,

985
01:02:26.119 --> 01:02:30.039
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the the are we all? I believe we

986
01:02:30.079 --> 01:02:33.519
<v Speaker 2>all share a common enemy, right, and and and this

987
01:02:33.639 --> 01:02:38.920
<v Speaker 2>common enemy is possessed with you know, honestly the darkest ambitions,

988
01:02:39.519 --> 01:02:43.719
<v Speaker 2>and and and the vast majority are are very unaware,

989
01:02:44.079 --> 01:02:46.480
<v Speaker 2>I believe, and so so personally, I just think that

990
01:02:46.920 --> 01:02:50.280
<v Speaker 2>the more conversations we can have where we attempt to

991
01:02:50.280 --> 01:02:56.519
<v Speaker 2>shine a light in the darkness, makes sense of of

992
01:02:56.599 --> 01:02:59.840
<v Speaker 2>what actually took place potentially, you know. I mean again,

993
01:02:59.880 --> 01:03:04.039
<v Speaker 2>I view this as a far more plausible alternative theory

994
01:03:04.079 --> 01:03:09.519
<v Speaker 2>than that of the mainstream narrative. Right, and so that's

995
01:03:09.559 --> 01:03:13.559
<v Speaker 2>the profound as far as in my mind, there's this

996
01:03:13.599 --> 01:03:19.880
<v Speaker 2>inverted moral landscape. It's essentially it leaves us with this

997
01:03:20.000 --> 01:03:25.360
<v Speaker 2>profound sense of righteous indignation in a certain way. And

998
01:03:25.400 --> 01:03:28.440
<v Speaker 2>I think that's good, you know. I think that we

999
01:03:28.480 --> 01:03:32.960
<v Speaker 2>shouldn't be content with the current structured system in place,

1000
01:03:33.280 --> 01:03:36.679
<v Speaker 2>but also we shouldn't let it destroy us, because what

1001
01:03:36.800 --> 01:03:39.519
<v Speaker 2>is the intention to set us on the path of

1002
01:03:39.840 --> 01:03:43.719
<v Speaker 2>ideological subversion? And what is the first stage demoralization?

1003
01:03:43.920 --> 01:03:44.199
<v Speaker 6>Man?

1004
01:03:44.519 --> 01:03:47.239
<v Speaker 2>And so I try and steer away from that, I

1005
01:03:47.280 --> 01:03:50.800
<v Speaker 2>think there is beauty in conversations such as this, which

1006
01:03:50.880 --> 01:03:53.119
<v Speaker 2>I mentioned at the beginning, provides me with the real,

1007
01:03:53.320 --> 01:03:58.239
<v Speaker 2>honest sense of hope moving forward. So, yeah, man, I'm

1008
01:03:58.360 --> 01:04:04.679
<v Speaker 2>entirely under the under the impression that you know, this was, yeah,

1009
01:04:04.679 --> 01:04:10.599
<v Speaker 2>this was a legitimate cover up that essentially, you know,

1010
01:04:10.679 --> 01:04:19.599
<v Speaker 2>it shrouded the actual just intentions behind the ritualized murder

1011
01:04:19.639 --> 01:04:23.840
<v Speaker 2>and blood sacrifice and the belief system that is sort

1012
01:04:23.840 --> 01:04:28.440
<v Speaker 2>of standing tall behind the actual details of the criminal

1013
01:04:28.480 --> 01:04:30.760
<v Speaker 2>case and how the bodies were discovered in every aspect

1014
01:04:30.800 --> 01:04:33.679
<v Speaker 2>of it, and that has now been entirely set aside

1015
01:04:33.719 --> 01:04:36.679
<v Speaker 2>and ignored, and it's not even a part of the

1016
01:04:36.719 --> 01:04:39.480
<v Speaker 2>official narrative. And so that in itself, I felt like,

1017
01:04:40.639 --> 01:04:44.159
<v Speaker 2>drew me to this story because where again intended to

1018
01:04:44.199 --> 01:04:48.320
<v Speaker 2>remain in the darkness and unaware of this sort of

1019
01:04:49.159 --> 01:04:53.679
<v Speaker 2>real power paradigm, you know how it kind of functions.

1020
01:04:54.000 --> 01:04:59.159
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, I don't know, it blows my mind this case,

1021
01:04:59.239 --> 01:05:03.840
<v Speaker 2>I'll be honest, And it's unfortunate that And oh yeah,

1022
01:05:03.880 --> 01:05:07.920
<v Speaker 2>I found something else about Oh yeah, I had discovered

1023
01:05:07.920 --> 01:05:13.360
<v Speaker 2>that there was a free Masonic cemetery very nearby that

1024
01:05:13.360 --> 01:05:16.400
<v Speaker 2>that death ritual site of Abby and Libby, and I

1025
01:05:16.480 --> 01:05:18.840
<v Speaker 2>forgot the name of it. I should have brought it.

1026
01:05:18.880 --> 01:05:21.159
<v Speaker 2>I forgot it till just now. I should have brought

1027
01:05:21.159 --> 01:05:24.039
<v Speaker 2>this source with me, because if I would have remembered,

1028
01:05:24.079 --> 01:05:26.000
<v Speaker 2>I would have pulled it. But but there is a

1029
01:05:26.039 --> 01:05:32.159
<v Speaker 2>free Masonic cemetery, a private cemetery that is like eerily

1030
01:05:32.440 --> 01:05:36.519
<v Speaker 2>close to the area of where Abby and Libby were sacrificed,

1031
01:05:36.880 --> 01:05:38.960
<v Speaker 2>and that again kind of lends a little bit more

1032
01:05:39.000 --> 01:05:43.000
<v Speaker 2>of credibility to the idea that maybe Ronald Logan and

1033
01:05:43.440 --> 01:05:47.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, was entirely you know, connected to this Vnlander

1034
01:05:47.119 --> 01:05:50.440
<v Speaker 2>group and the individuals involved in the local chapter. And

1035
01:05:50.639 --> 01:05:54.079
<v Speaker 2>especially when you look at let me pull this up

1036
01:05:54.119 --> 01:05:56.280
<v Speaker 2>because this is fascinating and it's the picture I wanted

1037
01:05:56.280 --> 01:05:58.039
<v Speaker 2>to share with you guys before we get out of here,

1038
01:05:58.480 --> 01:06:04.159
<v Speaker 2>and that is it kind of blows me away. Let's see,

1039
01:06:04.719 --> 01:06:07.880
<v Speaker 2>blah blah blah. All right, let's see if I can

1040
01:06:07.920 --> 01:06:12.840
<v Speaker 2>share this. There you go, buddy, Now look at this guy.

1041
01:06:12.840 --> 01:06:17.000
<v Speaker 2>This is what William Ramsay sent me basically saying that

1042
01:06:17.079 --> 01:06:19.679
<v Speaker 2>this could be the bridge guy and this is one

1043
01:06:19.719 --> 01:06:23.679
<v Speaker 2>of the the sketches composite scam. He looks really close,

1044
01:06:24.440 --> 01:06:25.480
<v Speaker 2>very close right.

1045
01:06:25.559 --> 01:06:28.360
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, like you can't even like with the hoodie and

1046
01:06:28.400 --> 01:06:31.000
<v Speaker 6>the hat. Yeah, you definitely couldn't be able to.

1047
01:06:32.599 --> 01:06:35.519
<v Speaker 2>And then look at this, this is him. Oh shit,

1048
01:06:37.400 --> 01:06:43.280
<v Speaker 2>so thirty three baby, Yeah, so somebody sent me this

1049
01:06:44.760 --> 01:06:47.800
<v Speaker 2>that picture and they said hey, brother, and was just

1050
01:06:48.119 --> 01:06:50.079
<v Speaker 2>telling me I did well with William and then sent

1051
01:06:50.119 --> 01:06:52.599
<v Speaker 2>me this. I believe it was posted literally thirty three

1052
01:06:52.679 --> 01:06:56.800
<v Speaker 2>days after the killing of Abby and Libby, so that

1053
01:06:56.920 --> 01:07:01.480
<v Speaker 2>in itself crazy. This was posted on Brad Holder's Facebook

1054
01:07:01.519 --> 01:07:05.280
<v Speaker 2>page thirty three days after the actual deaths of Abby

1055
01:07:05.280 --> 01:07:10.599
<v Speaker 2>and Libby. Along with the symbolic nature of the ruins

1056
01:07:10.639 --> 01:07:14.519
<v Speaker 2>that they were posting and the crime scene photo portrait

1057
01:07:14.599 --> 01:07:17.159
<v Speaker 2>that they posted that at least resembled directly that of

1058
01:07:17.199 --> 01:07:21.559
<v Speaker 2>the crime scene, then I believe this was Brad Holder

1059
01:07:21.719 --> 01:07:25.480
<v Speaker 2>was was potentially the bridge guy. And I think that

1060
01:07:26.920 --> 01:07:30.960
<v Speaker 2>this had to have been an initiatory, you know, ritual sacrifice.

1061
01:07:31.280 --> 01:07:34.559
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how else you could kind of explain

1062
01:07:34.639 --> 01:07:35.000
<v Speaker 2>it away.

1063
01:07:35.440 --> 01:07:39.360
<v Speaker 1>But let's not forget that the G and you know,

1064
01:07:39.840 --> 01:07:43.920
<v Speaker 1>a sonic symbol, the letter G is number seven of THEE.

1065
01:07:44.360 --> 01:07:51.119
<v Speaker 2>So seven again, my god, that that's just crazy to me.

1066
01:07:52.320 --> 01:07:58.400
<v Speaker 2>And but yeah, we are now left with the consequential

1067
01:07:58.400 --> 01:08:02.079
<v Speaker 2>outcome being that Richard Allen is the sole perpetrator, right,

1068
01:08:02.599 --> 01:08:05.840
<v Speaker 2>and that he had no affiliation with odinism.

1069
01:08:07.760 --> 01:08:11.960
<v Speaker 5>They even got that picture on on uh on Wikipedia?

1070
01:08:12.840 --> 01:08:13.360
<v Speaker 3>Do they really?

1071
01:08:13.840 --> 01:08:15.760
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, they got that picture on Wikipedia. I just pulled

1072
01:08:15.800 --> 01:08:16.000
<v Speaker 6>it up.

1073
01:08:16.039 --> 01:08:16.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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01:08:16.239 --> 01:08:22.720
<v Speaker 6>It's uh wow, it's crazy. Yeah. And that's just too identical.

1075
01:08:22.800 --> 01:08:26.119
<v Speaker 5>Man, that's just way way too identical, at least telling

1076
01:08:26.199 --> 01:08:28.960
<v Speaker 5>you to like that's crazy.

1077
01:08:29.319 --> 01:08:33.239
<v Speaker 2>I just couldn't. I couldn't at every level. I was convinced. Man,

1078
01:08:33.399 --> 01:08:39.159
<v Speaker 2>I'll be one hundred percent. Uh yeah, I'm convinced that that.

1079
01:08:39.840 --> 01:08:44.039
<v Speaker 2>I feel like we named the perpetrators that murdered Abby

1080
01:08:44.039 --> 01:08:48.880
<v Speaker 2>and Libby today. I honestly do. And you know the

1081
01:08:49.199 --> 01:08:52.560
<v Speaker 2>fact that these individuals are are insulated from any real

1082
01:08:52.560 --> 01:08:58.720
<v Speaker 2>accountability and still remain, you know, outside of any objective

1083
01:08:58.760 --> 01:08:59.760
<v Speaker 2>pursuit of justice.

1084
01:09:00.319 --> 01:09:02.439
<v Speaker 3>It just bugged out, even the hat and everything, dude, man,

1085
01:09:02.600 --> 01:09:04.359
<v Speaker 3>just like it does.

1086
01:09:04.479 --> 01:09:06.760
<v Speaker 6>Man, That's what I'm saying. Hey, let me ask you something, bro.

1087
01:09:06.840 --> 01:09:09.960
<v Speaker 5>Have you ever tried to contact him at the correctional

1088
01:09:10.079 --> 01:09:11.239
<v Speaker 5>facility in Oklahoma?

1089
01:09:11.960 --> 01:09:15.000
<v Speaker 2>I have not, man, I just uh, I honestly I

1090
01:09:15.079 --> 01:09:17.119
<v Speaker 2>probably should, right, I.

1091
01:09:17.079 --> 01:09:18.760
<v Speaker 5>Try to look his I try to look him up

1092
01:09:18.800 --> 01:09:20.640
<v Speaker 5>on there, they say that he transferred over there. But

1093
01:09:20.680 --> 01:09:22.159
<v Speaker 5>when you try to type in his name and his

1094
01:09:22.159 --> 01:09:25.640
<v Speaker 5>birthdate and all that stuff into the to the correction facility.

1095
01:09:25.399 --> 01:09:26.800
<v Speaker 6>It says there's nobody there.

1096
01:09:27.000 --> 01:09:28.600
<v Speaker 5>And then of course on the top it says a

1097
01:09:28.640 --> 01:09:30.800
<v Speaker 5>little small fine print, you know, it says, you know,

1098
01:09:30.880 --> 01:09:32.159
<v Speaker 5>they're updating their stuff.

1099
01:09:31.920 --> 01:09:33.079
<v Speaker 6>And blah blah blah blah blah.

1100
01:09:33.119 --> 01:09:35.279
<v Speaker 5>But I mean he's been there for a minute now,

1101
01:09:35.279 --> 01:09:37.439
<v Speaker 5>so they should have been done, had his up So yeah,

1102
01:09:37.560 --> 01:09:39.720
<v Speaker 5>something they right. And then then the question is is

1103
01:09:39.720 --> 01:09:41.760
<v Speaker 5>why did they transfer him in the first place, you

1104
01:09:41.800 --> 01:09:43.760
<v Speaker 5>know what I mean, why did they transfer him?

1105
01:09:43.800 --> 01:09:46.039
<v Speaker 6>What was the point of transferm Was it for his safety?

1106
01:09:46.479 --> 01:09:48.000
<v Speaker 5>Was it because he was going to do some things

1107
01:09:48.000 --> 01:09:50.159
<v Speaker 5>that you know, people were going to get catch notice

1108
01:09:50.159 --> 01:09:53.960
<v Speaker 5>of it. You know, when you transfer somebody you don't

1109
01:09:54.000 --> 01:09:56.359
<v Speaker 5>necessarily have to update that information in there quick.

1110
01:09:56.439 --> 01:09:57.000
<v Speaker 6>You know what I'm saying.

1111
01:09:57.000 --> 01:09:58.520
<v Speaker 5>You could just you can wait till the day they

1112
01:09:58.600 --> 01:10:01.159
<v Speaker 5>die and updated and then say this east one.

1113
01:10:01.079 --> 01:10:04.479
<v Speaker 2>Hundred percent man, yeap that it doesn't feel right to

1114
01:10:04.560 --> 01:10:07.119
<v Speaker 2>me at all, and especially just after hearing that he

1115
01:10:07.319 --> 01:10:11.319
<v Speaker 2>was transferred, I instantly, you know, a red flag went

1116
01:10:11.399 --> 01:10:14.399
<v Speaker 2>up in my mind, right, just it doesn't tend to

1117
01:10:14.479 --> 01:10:18.960
<v Speaker 2>happen for no reason, right, and especially considering the abuse

1118
01:10:19.000 --> 01:10:23.920
<v Speaker 2>he allegedly endured during the time that at Westville. Yeah,

1119
01:10:23.960 --> 01:10:29.199
<v Speaker 2>it only adds more to to sort of the substance

1120
01:10:29.520 --> 01:10:34.159
<v Speaker 2>of what potentially could be happening theoretically to Richard Allen.

1121
01:10:34.680 --> 01:10:37.399
<v Speaker 2>I mean, how do you keep someone silent? How do

1122
01:10:37.439 --> 01:10:41.119
<v Speaker 2>you hide someone away for right, convict them, give them

1123
01:10:41.119 --> 01:10:44.640
<v Speaker 2>the maximum sentence for each charge, right that you possibly

1124
01:10:44.680 --> 01:10:48.920
<v Speaker 2>can essentially force them to remain silent throughout the trial.

1125
01:10:49.199 --> 01:10:53.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's it's honestly, it's crazy. How what a

1126
01:10:54.119 --> 01:10:57.520
<v Speaker 2>sort of miscarriage of justice this really truly was in

1127
01:10:57.600 --> 01:11:01.279
<v Speaker 2>terms of Richard Allen and how his defense attorneys were treated.

1128
01:11:02.039 --> 01:11:04.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you, I do believe that mcclealand the prosecutor

1129
01:11:04.880 --> 01:11:10.640
<v Speaker 2>was entirely compromised. And we know that that obviously. You

1130
01:11:10.680 --> 01:11:15.039
<v Speaker 2>know the detective was it Holloway or I can't remember now,

1131
01:11:15.039 --> 01:11:18.800
<v Speaker 2>but either way, the detective, who was clearly the leading

1132
01:11:18.880 --> 01:11:23.439
<v Speaker 2>one of the leading members on the the the unified command,

1133
01:11:24.119 --> 01:11:27.000
<v Speaker 2>was obviously compromised as well. Right, And so that in

1134
01:11:27.399 --> 01:11:31.840
<v Speaker 2>my mind, beyond the fact that Francis Gould, the judge

1135
01:11:32.560 --> 01:11:39.960
<v Speaker 2>did everything in her power to sort of stand directly

1136
01:11:40.039 --> 01:11:42.239
<v Speaker 2>in front of of as far as she was, she

1137
01:11:42.319 --> 01:11:45.960
<v Speaker 2>was making sure that she would she would take every

1138
01:11:46.000 --> 01:11:49.520
<v Speaker 2>single precautionary measure in order to make sure that none

1139
01:11:49.520 --> 01:11:52.319
<v Speaker 2>of this evidence would come forward and none of it

1140
01:11:52.319 --> 01:11:56.039
<v Speaker 2>would ever become public in terms of the individual jurors

1141
01:11:56.359 --> 01:11:58.680
<v Speaker 2>being exposed to it, let alone the defense having the

1142
01:11:58.720 --> 01:12:02.800
<v Speaker 2>ability to you know, to utilize it. So how can

1143
01:12:02.840 --> 01:12:05.359
<v Speaker 2>you actually defend Richard Allen if you can't provide the

1144
01:12:05.399 --> 01:12:11.720
<v Speaker 2>odinism defense? Oh yeah, right, yeah, I mean there's no way.

1145
01:12:11.800 --> 01:12:14.279
<v Speaker 2>So that was all they had to successfully achieve, and

1146
01:12:14.720 --> 01:12:19.239
<v Speaker 2>I think they did, you know, honestly, So I'm not

1147
01:12:19.399 --> 01:12:22.279
<v Speaker 2>at all really surprised due to the fact that I

1148
01:12:22.399 --> 01:12:28.600
<v Speaker 2>just understanding the historical context of how they pursue these

1149
01:12:28.640 --> 01:12:32.359
<v Speaker 2>cover ups and also the consequential outcomes of some of

1150
01:12:32.399 --> 01:12:35.399
<v Speaker 2>the most sadistic networks that seem to have state sponsorship.

1151
01:12:35.439 --> 01:12:39.119
<v Speaker 2>There's a hidden hand of intelligence that is clearly propping

1152
01:12:39.159 --> 01:12:42.439
<v Speaker 2>them up, putting them into these positions where they are

1153
01:12:42.479 --> 01:12:48.119
<v Speaker 2>insulated from accountability. And it's just to me, it's another

1154
01:12:48.239 --> 01:12:52.760
<v Speaker 2>window into this sort of occult underground that you know,

1155
01:12:52.880 --> 01:12:57.399
<v Speaker 2>is deliberately kept in the shadows. I mean, they would

1156
01:12:57.479 --> 01:13:00.800
<v Speaker 2>really appreciate if we weren't initiated as far as our

1157
01:13:00.880 --> 01:13:05.720
<v Speaker 2>understanding and ability to interpret the motivation, the the the

1158
01:13:05.880 --> 01:13:11.319
<v Speaker 2>sort of intention behind many of these events. And because

1159
01:13:11.319 --> 01:13:14.520
<v Speaker 2>if you aren't even willing to have an open mind

1160
01:13:14.560 --> 01:13:17.399
<v Speaker 2>and consider the idea that a ritualistic sacrifice would be

1161
01:13:17.439 --> 01:13:21.560
<v Speaker 2>a part of these murders, then good luck solve in

1162
01:13:21.600 --> 01:13:24.199
<v Speaker 2>this crime, you know what I mean, Like it's that's

1163
01:13:24.279 --> 01:13:27.319
<v Speaker 2>legitimately how it is. And so if you have the

1164
01:13:27.319 --> 01:13:31.680
<v Speaker 2>general public dismissing this at face value due to the

1165
01:13:31.720 --> 01:13:36.399
<v Speaker 2>extraordinary nature of the allegations themselves, that's a strategic outcome

1166
01:13:36.439 --> 01:13:38.680
<v Speaker 2>in itself if you're attempting to cover up right and

1167
01:13:38.680 --> 01:13:42.640
<v Speaker 2>and and I think that happens so often, And then

1168
01:13:42.760 --> 01:13:45.840
<v Speaker 2>they also are aware of the idea of layering using

1169
01:13:45.880 --> 01:13:50.640
<v Speaker 2>it in a layered strategic way to where most of

1170
01:13:50.680 --> 01:13:55.399
<v Speaker 2>the general public will and inherently sort of dismissed these

1171
01:13:55.479 --> 01:13:59.880
<v Speaker 2>these more extraordinary allegations if they are on you know,

1172
01:14:00.039 --> 01:14:03.920
<v Speaker 2>unaware of these connections and these unfortunate organizations that do

1173
01:14:04.039 --> 01:14:10.239
<v Speaker 2>exist that pursue these these uh just obvious people are

1174
01:14:10.399 --> 01:14:13.760
<v Speaker 2>unaware that it never ends with just human trafficking, right.

1175
01:14:13.760 --> 01:14:16.960
<v Speaker 2>It always the enterprise is wide in scope, you know,

1176
01:14:17.000 --> 01:14:21.800
<v Speaker 2>and you have organ harvesting and and you know, every

1177
01:14:21.880 --> 01:14:26.600
<v Speaker 2>single layer to this is it's a criminal enterprise where

1178
01:14:26.600 --> 01:14:30.880
<v Speaker 2>it all blends together basically targeted assassinations, you know, and

1179
01:14:31.159 --> 01:14:36.520
<v Speaker 2>human compromise, sexual black male satanic ritual abuse. Right. I mean,

1180
01:14:36.720 --> 01:14:39.840
<v Speaker 2>at every level, there's there's truth to all of this,

1181
01:14:40.479 --> 01:14:47.199
<v Speaker 2>and it's been i think conveniently and strategically. You know,

1182
01:14:48.479 --> 01:14:53.680
<v Speaker 2>there's been these sort of I think these very much

1183
01:14:54.560 --> 01:14:59.840
<v Speaker 2>misdirected just kind of mechanisms that were very much like

1184
01:15:00.159 --> 01:15:03.039
<v Speaker 2>laid into these strategic positions in order for the general

1185
01:15:03.079 --> 01:15:04.840
<v Speaker 2>public not to be able to come to terms with

1186
01:15:04.880 --> 01:15:07.159
<v Speaker 2>any of these ideas in a way where it seems

1187
01:15:07.159 --> 01:15:09.720
<v Speaker 2>like you can remain credible. And I think that's the issue,

1188
01:15:09.760 --> 01:15:13.680
<v Speaker 2>is that so many people, if you discuss something from

1189
01:15:13.720 --> 01:15:18.680
<v Speaker 2>this angle, they're concerned about being dismissed and their credibility

1190
01:15:18.720 --> 01:15:22.159
<v Speaker 2>taking a hit. And I think that's a huge mistake.

1191
01:15:22.479 --> 01:15:28.920
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's obviously I think one of the reasons

1192
01:15:28.600 --> 01:15:33.479
<v Speaker 2>that this sort of preconceived notion has been very much

1193
01:15:33.520 --> 01:15:36.439
<v Speaker 2>conditioned into the minds of the general public, and it's

1194
01:15:36.439 --> 01:15:40.760
<v Speaker 2>for that purpose, you know, So I'm just very yeah,

1195
01:15:40.800 --> 01:15:41.560
<v Speaker 2>go ahead.

1196
01:15:41.479 --> 01:15:45.319
<v Speaker 1>No, I'm sorry. Before I forget exactly what you just

1197
01:15:45.359 --> 01:15:47.680
<v Speaker 1>said right now, I wanted to kind of capitalize them

1198
01:15:47.720 --> 01:15:50.000
<v Speaker 1>exactly what you said and kind of highlight what you said.

1199
01:15:50.319 --> 01:15:53.159
<v Speaker 1>And Nick has mentioned this before in other episodes, and

1200
01:15:53.199 --> 01:15:55.079
<v Speaker 1>we've kind of mentioned it when we cover some of

1201
01:15:55.079 --> 01:15:59.399
<v Speaker 1>this true crime stuff. If you want to look at

1202
01:15:59.439 --> 01:16:03.880
<v Speaker 1>each end visual true crime situation, and everything is so questioned,

1203
01:16:04.279 --> 01:16:09.359
<v Speaker 1>everything is so questionable. One thing, one resounding theme you

1204
01:16:09.359 --> 01:16:12.319
<v Speaker 1>will see is that all the characters in the story

1205
01:16:12.560 --> 01:16:17.920
<v Speaker 1>are polarizing. You literally have a camp on either side

1206
01:16:18.039 --> 01:16:23.439
<v Speaker 1>of every single character in any true crime story. And

1207
01:16:23.840 --> 01:16:26.880
<v Speaker 1>I do believe that is on purpose. I do believe

1208
01:16:26.920 --> 01:16:32.000
<v Speaker 1>that there are characters as in a reality show. I'm

1209
01:16:32.039 --> 01:16:35.119
<v Speaker 1>not saying that these that didn't happen. I'm saying this

1210
01:16:35.279 --> 01:16:39.880
<v Speaker 1>is probably the ultimate what is it? Reality TV? And

1211
01:16:39.920 --> 01:16:43.760
<v Speaker 1>if you look at specifically with the Delphi, they're wanting

1212
01:16:43.800 --> 01:16:47.439
<v Speaker 1>to bring cameras into the courtroom. They're wanting to televise

1213
01:16:47.880 --> 01:16:51.720
<v Speaker 1>what's being said. Why Because so much money is being

1214
01:16:51.760 --> 01:16:56.159
<v Speaker 1>made off of the true crime industry, whether it is podcasts,

1215
01:16:56.399 --> 01:17:00.479
<v Speaker 1>whether it is gofundmes, whether it is anything. I mean,

1216
01:17:00.560 --> 01:17:03.399
<v Speaker 1>I had heard that a lot of people had driven

1217
01:17:03.640 --> 01:17:07.159
<v Speaker 1>to Delphi, Indiana just to look at the site, so

1218
01:17:07.199 --> 01:17:11.359
<v Speaker 1>that not only money and tourism as well. And you're

1219
01:17:12.079 --> 01:17:16.439
<v Speaker 1>about cornering a market that had yet to ever be explored.

1220
01:17:17.119 --> 01:17:20.239
<v Speaker 1>And now you're making bank regardless of who it is,

1221
01:17:20.479 --> 01:17:23.600
<v Speaker 1>regardless of what angle it is. And then you're now

1222
01:17:23.680 --> 01:17:29.000
<v Speaker 1>also having these what is it called expert witnesses that

1223
01:17:30.479 --> 01:17:34.079
<v Speaker 1>for all of these high profile cases. Someone mentions in

1224
01:17:34.119 --> 01:17:41.279
<v Speaker 1>the chat about the false memory loftus he has literally

1225
01:17:41.279 --> 01:17:45.520
<v Speaker 1>been in Gieslaine Maxwell's things. She's also worked on other

1226
01:17:45.600 --> 01:17:48.359
<v Speaker 1>cases as well. There it's escaping right now. But if

1227
01:17:48.399 --> 01:17:51.279
<v Speaker 1>you look at the form the firm that she worked for,

1228
01:17:51.920 --> 01:17:57.640
<v Speaker 1>that firm also was expert witnesses in other serial killer

1229
01:17:57.800 --> 01:18:04.279
<v Speaker 1>or mass in mass type true crime cases. And so

1230
01:18:05.079 --> 01:18:09.399
<v Speaker 1>you and then you think, well, is this all by design?

1231
01:18:10.199 --> 01:18:12.920
<v Speaker 1>Will if you look at the research that some of

1232
01:18:12.920 --> 01:18:17.600
<v Speaker 1>these psychologists or some of these forensic people are looking into,

1233
01:18:18.039 --> 01:18:23.800
<v Speaker 1>it's a public perception. It's way the public how can

1234
01:18:23.880 --> 01:18:28.359
<v Speaker 1>we put this into the zeitgeist and kind of sway opinion?

1235
01:18:29.079 --> 01:18:33.640
<v Speaker 1>And we're now seeing the court of public opinion on

1236
01:18:33.840 --> 01:18:39.399
<v Speaker 1>stage as an actual person or character alongside the jury,

1237
01:18:40.159 --> 01:18:45.359
<v Speaker 1>really anything even more vocal than the jury itself. So

1238
01:18:45.399 --> 01:18:49.640
<v Speaker 1>I do think that exactly what you just said that,

1239
01:18:49.840 --> 01:18:52.359
<v Speaker 1>I do think that that also be in the back

1240
01:18:52.399 --> 01:18:57.239
<v Speaker 1>of our mind that this is potentially being woven for

1241
01:18:57.359 --> 01:18:59.520
<v Speaker 1>us as well from.

1242
01:18:59.319 --> 01:19:02.640
<v Speaker 4>Someone Sometimes I wonder, like what you're pointing, at least

1243
01:19:04.359 --> 01:19:07.159
<v Speaker 4>you know you'll see that also kind of like carry over.

1244
01:19:07.840 --> 01:19:09.760
<v Speaker 4>I know this isn't gonna sound the greatest, but you'll

1245
01:19:09.760 --> 01:19:12.119
<v Speaker 4>see that carry over into politics and conspiracies.

1246
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<v Speaker 3>And I think it's giving.

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01:19:15.279 --> 01:19:18.000
<v Speaker 4>People the delusion that if they think they know something

1248
01:19:18.000 --> 01:19:20.600
<v Speaker 4>and they're saying it on the internet, it changes and

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01:19:20.640 --> 01:19:21.960
<v Speaker 4>it's not going to change shit.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, Bro.

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<v Speaker 5>That's why there's so many damn arguments because they exactly

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01:19:27.960 --> 01:19:30.000
<v Speaker 5>and then the funny thing is when you try to

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01:19:30.039 --> 01:19:31.920
<v Speaker 5>correct them and give them a little bit of knowledge

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01:19:31.960 --> 01:19:33.399
<v Speaker 5>or at least a little bit to help them on

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01:19:33.439 --> 01:19:36.079
<v Speaker 5>their journey to they didn't want to, you know, say

1256
01:19:36.119 --> 01:19:37.960
<v Speaker 5>all kinds of negative things to you, and I just

1257
01:19:38.000 --> 01:19:40.359
<v Speaker 5>that's that's when I turn into the Jerry Springer Show.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it, but they always attack the messenger though, brother,

1259
01:19:45.439 --> 01:19:48.239
<v Speaker 2>I know that much. That's how I've experienced in my

1260
01:19:48.359 --> 01:19:52.000
<v Speaker 2>time as far as just my personal it is hilarious

1261
01:19:52.039 --> 01:19:55.239
<v Speaker 2>how like the individuals you know and love and should,

1262
01:19:55.479 --> 01:19:57.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, should kind of like understand that you have

1263
01:19:57.880 --> 01:20:01.680
<v Speaker 2>their well being at heart, that you're considering that at

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01:20:01.680 --> 01:20:07.039
<v Speaker 2>the very least there are. So it's interesting how much

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01:20:07.199 --> 01:20:11.319
<v Speaker 2>people are far more open minded to learning from perfect

1266
01:20:11.319 --> 01:20:17.720
<v Speaker 2>strangers than actually legitimately open mindedly considering ideas from individuals

1267
01:20:17.720 --> 01:20:20.119
<v Speaker 2>they know and love, right, Because it's just a funny

1268
01:20:20.520 --> 01:20:24.039
<v Speaker 2>sort of situation to find yourself in. But I've learned

1269
01:20:24.079 --> 01:20:27.479
<v Speaker 2>that over time obviously, like I'm not responsible for anyone

1270
01:20:27.479 --> 01:20:31.479
<v Speaker 2>else else's sort of path, you know, in terms of

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01:20:32.319 --> 01:20:36.640
<v Speaker 2>I feel like you have to you have to kind

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01:20:36.640 --> 01:20:39.279
<v Speaker 2>of expose yourself to these ideas on your own terms,

1273
01:20:39.680 --> 01:20:43.720
<v Speaker 2>because if not, then I think it's always going to

1274
01:20:43.800 --> 01:20:47.079
<v Speaker 2>be sort of kill the messenger in a way, right,

1275
01:20:47.199 --> 01:20:52.560
<v Speaker 2>because you are now kind of shaking their entire structured

1276
01:20:52.560 --> 01:20:57.720
<v Speaker 2>ideological framework of how society functions. And that's terrifying because

1277
01:20:57.720 --> 01:21:00.479
<v Speaker 2>what happens when that veil falls to the way side.

1278
01:21:00.840 --> 01:21:03.600
<v Speaker 2>You're no longer a naive child who's engaging in this

1279
01:21:03.680 --> 01:21:07.159
<v Speaker 2>sort of cartoonish black and white version of reality. You're

1280
01:21:07.199 --> 01:21:10.439
<v Speaker 2>starting to see the deeper layers of things. You either

1281
01:21:10.880 --> 01:21:12.960
<v Speaker 2>you kind of decide you choose to do one of

1282
01:21:12.960 --> 01:21:15.159
<v Speaker 2>two things. You either slam your head back into the

1283
01:21:15.199 --> 01:21:19.680
<v Speaker 2>sand or run away kicking and screaming, or you continue

1284
01:21:19.720 --> 01:21:22.800
<v Speaker 2>forward and pursue that path of objectively, you know, finding

1285
01:21:22.800 --> 01:21:27.279
<v Speaker 2>the truth, and like you will only I think benefit

1286
01:21:27.319 --> 01:21:30.239
<v Speaker 2>in the long run if you have a decent moral

1287
01:21:30.279 --> 01:21:34.000
<v Speaker 2>foundation and certain ethical principles strongly in place. I think

1288
01:21:34.039 --> 01:21:36.920
<v Speaker 2>you only benefit in the long run from pursuing that

1289
01:21:37.000 --> 01:21:41.680
<v Speaker 2>objective truth. But yes, so very often I just witness,

1290
01:21:42.800 --> 01:21:47.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, people sort of they get very frustrated and

1291
01:21:47.479 --> 01:21:50.600
<v Speaker 2>upset and don't know how to defend their own sort

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01:21:50.640 --> 01:21:56.880
<v Speaker 2>of ideological position, and so then they inherently act out.

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<v Speaker 3>It's kind of fortunately, you know that.

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<v Speaker 5>That's why for me personally, I always if I ever

1295
01:22:04.439 --> 01:22:07.039
<v Speaker 5>say something, I have a source by me, I would

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01:22:07.119 --> 01:22:10.840
<v Speaker 5>never say something. And the only reason why is because

1297
01:22:10.880 --> 01:22:12.800
<v Speaker 5>I don't want somebody to believe what I'm saying.

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01:22:13.199 --> 01:22:14.079
<v Speaker 6>I want you to.

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<v Speaker 5>Go and read the source that I've read that gave

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01:22:16.880 --> 01:22:20.640
<v Speaker 5>me the idea and belief that I have that exactly

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01:22:21.199 --> 01:22:24.560
<v Speaker 5>at least gave you the chance, at least giving you

1302
01:22:24.600 --> 01:22:26.279
<v Speaker 5>the chance to come up on that same thing. Now,

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01:22:26.319 --> 01:22:28.479
<v Speaker 5>if you have a source that I don't have, I'm

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01:22:28.520 --> 01:22:31.079
<v Speaker 5>going to buy that source and I'm going to research it.

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01:22:31.239 --> 01:22:32.720
<v Speaker 5>Then I'm going to go in there and break it

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01:22:32.760 --> 01:22:35.159
<v Speaker 5>down based off of everything else that I've learned throughout

1307
01:22:35.159 --> 01:22:37.880
<v Speaker 5>my journey. I don't care about being right. Being right

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01:22:37.960 --> 01:22:40.119
<v Speaker 5>has nothing to do. I can't prove that I'm right because,

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01:22:40.279 --> 01:22:42.840
<v Speaker 5>for one, I can't go in the past and tell

1310
01:22:42.880 --> 01:22:44.920
<v Speaker 5>you what actually happened. I can just go to the

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01:22:44.960 --> 01:22:47.439
<v Speaker 5>people who are respected in the field, who have the

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01:22:47.520 --> 01:22:50.640
<v Speaker 5>knowledge behind the information, and I'll go there and I say, Okay,

1313
01:22:50.640 --> 01:22:53.479
<v Speaker 5>this is what this person says, and that's it. You know, now,

1314
01:22:53.479 --> 01:22:56.520
<v Speaker 5>if you want my opinion, my opinion is going to change.

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01:22:56.560 --> 01:22:59.199
<v Speaker 5>I cannot come up. I don't know how anybody sits

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01:22:59.199 --> 01:23:01.479
<v Speaker 5>here and says that they've done so much research and

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01:23:01.520 --> 01:23:02.039
<v Speaker 5>they come to.

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01:23:02.119 --> 01:23:06.560
<v Speaker 6>One fucking conclusion. How you've read so much shit? Would

1319
01:23:06.600 --> 01:23:07.840
<v Speaker 6>you have one conclusion?

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01:23:08.000 --> 01:23:08.119
<v Speaker 7>No?

1321
01:23:08.239 --> 01:23:10.479
<v Speaker 6>I have thousands of conclusions.

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01:23:10.000 --> 01:23:13.439
<v Speaker 5>Of what I because I know what different people have said,

1323
01:23:13.479 --> 01:23:17.520
<v Speaker 5>and I can take what they said and analyze it

1324
01:23:17.920 --> 01:23:21.159
<v Speaker 5>and put my mind and my passion into it and

1325
01:23:21.239 --> 01:23:23.800
<v Speaker 5>bring it to the to the world to say, hey,

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01:23:24.520 --> 01:23:27.239
<v Speaker 5>this is not me saying this is what the text say.

1327
01:23:27.319 --> 01:23:29.680
<v Speaker 5>And if you want to know what Texas says comes from,

1328
01:23:29.800 --> 01:23:31.960
<v Speaker 5>I'm giving it to you. That's why you will always

1329
01:23:32.000 --> 01:23:35.359
<v Speaker 5>see me, always, always see me share a source always.

1330
01:23:35.399 --> 01:23:38.079
<v Speaker 5>I will always bring a source. And I've read thousands

1331
01:23:38.119 --> 01:23:41.119
<v Speaker 5>of books. I've have plenty of soorts of peer reviewed articles.

1332
01:23:41.279 --> 01:23:43.920
<v Speaker 5>I have my own book. I stick to the foundation.

1333
01:23:43.960 --> 01:23:46.079
<v Speaker 5>If you don't know the foundation, you can't build a house.

1334
01:23:46.279 --> 01:23:46.840
<v Speaker 6>You just can't.

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01:23:47.199 --> 01:23:50.640
<v Speaker 5>So my foundation is what the basics of the information says.

1336
01:23:50.680 --> 01:23:52.560
<v Speaker 5>And I'm going to find the individuals that have that

1337
01:23:52.680 --> 01:23:54.960
<v Speaker 5>information and I'm going to bring it to the world and.

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01:23:54.880 --> 01:23:57.039
<v Speaker 8>Say, hey, these are probably the people you want to

1339
01:23:57.079 --> 01:23:57.439
<v Speaker 8>look at.

1340
01:23:57.600 --> 01:23:59.439
<v Speaker 6>Now. This is this is what I like to do

1341
01:23:59.479 --> 01:23:59.920
<v Speaker 6>the most.

1342
01:24:00.399 --> 01:24:02.640
<v Speaker 5>Just because I once read one thing, I'm going to

1343
01:24:02.720 --> 01:24:05.119
<v Speaker 5>find the other thing that counters it, so that way

1344
01:24:05.159 --> 01:24:06.079
<v Speaker 5>I can see what the.

1345
01:24:06.000 --> 01:24:09.119
<v Speaker 6>Hell is in the middle. Because there's three sides of

1346
01:24:09.199 --> 01:24:09.640
<v Speaker 6>the story.

1347
01:24:09.920 --> 01:24:12.359
<v Speaker 5>On their side, there's the other side, and then there's

1348
01:24:12.399 --> 01:24:15.439
<v Speaker 5>the side in the story in the middle. That's what

1349
01:24:15.600 --> 01:24:17.720
<v Speaker 5>I'm coming in. And I'm a libra, so I'm going

1350
01:24:17.760 --> 01:24:19.079
<v Speaker 5>to try to balance that out as.

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01:24:19.079 --> 01:24:22.680
<v Speaker 8>Much as possible. Okay, you're right, Okay, now you're wrong,

1352
01:24:22.880 --> 01:24:24.159
<v Speaker 8>now you're right, and now you're wrong.

1353
01:24:24.159 --> 01:24:26.319
<v Speaker 5>And I'm gonna keep shifting it until I come to

1354
01:24:26.399 --> 01:24:29.199
<v Speaker 5>an understanding for myself. Now, what i believe is based

1355
01:24:29.199 --> 01:24:32.319
<v Speaker 5>off the information that I've learned, you know, exactly learned

1356
01:24:32.359 --> 01:24:33.079
<v Speaker 5>what I've learned.

1357
01:24:33.239 --> 01:24:34.960
<v Speaker 6>You have to go through the same shoes that I

1358
01:24:35.079 --> 01:24:36.560
<v Speaker 6>did to get there, you.

1359
01:24:36.600 --> 01:24:39.680
<v Speaker 2>Know what I'm saying, So to say the same thing. Man, Honestly,

1360
01:24:39.720 --> 01:24:42.439
<v Speaker 2>I've created for quite some time now, I've said all

1361
01:24:42.479 --> 01:24:45.399
<v Speaker 2>that I bring to the table, are you know legitimate

1362
01:24:45.439 --> 01:24:47.359
<v Speaker 2>sources that have convinced me otherwise?

1363
01:24:47.720 --> 01:24:47.920
<v Speaker 6>Right?

1364
01:24:48.000 --> 01:24:50.560
<v Speaker 2>And so all that I ask are you know? If

1365
01:24:50.600 --> 01:24:53.600
<v Speaker 2>you're one, if you're interested, you would like to dig further,

1366
01:24:53.680 --> 01:24:55.880
<v Speaker 2>you would like to attempt to corroborate some of the

1367
01:24:55.920 --> 01:24:59.079
<v Speaker 2>evidence I put forward, and like go to the sources

1368
01:24:59.119 --> 01:25:03.039
<v Speaker 2>that I mentioned, uh and and definitely breed through them yourself,

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01:25:03.119 --> 01:25:05.079
<v Speaker 2>because I wouldn't have brought it to the table if

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01:25:05.159 --> 01:25:08.439
<v Speaker 2>I hadn't been fully convinced otherwise through this kind of

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01:25:08.840 --> 01:25:12.840
<v Speaker 2>avenue of you know, accumulating these various sources that that

1372
01:25:12.920 --> 01:25:16.520
<v Speaker 2>provided me with this far more plausible alternative theory. And

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01:25:16.560 --> 01:25:19.800
<v Speaker 2>that's all I'm doing. I'm hoping that people will see

1374
01:25:19.840 --> 01:25:22.560
<v Speaker 2>that this is what changed my mind. And that's the

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01:25:22.640 --> 01:25:24.439
<v Speaker 2>reason I'm bringing it to the table is because I

1376
01:25:24.479 --> 01:25:28.119
<v Speaker 2>think it's profound and and uh and also I think

1377
01:25:28.119 --> 01:25:31.640
<v Speaker 2>it's very important to to not have this sort of

1378
01:25:31.840 --> 01:25:35.840
<v Speaker 2>ultimate uh at least agenda. I don't really have an agenda.

1379
01:25:35.880 --> 01:25:38.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm just attempting to pursue the truth man, and sure

1380
01:25:38.800 --> 01:25:40.960
<v Speaker 2>that it's like you want to go along the ride

1381
01:25:41.039 --> 01:25:43.079
<v Speaker 2>with me, because I would love That's.

1382
01:25:48.560 --> 01:25:51.800
<v Speaker 1>No, your your opinion has if you're doing research, and

1383
01:25:51.920 --> 01:25:56.880
<v Speaker 1>you're really doing research, your stance has to evolve. It

1384
01:25:56.960 --> 01:26:00.800
<v Speaker 1>has evolved. If it does not evolve, your on you

1385
01:26:00.880 --> 01:26:02.800
<v Speaker 1>might as well just give it up now, because that

1386
01:26:02.960 --> 01:26:06.359
<v Speaker 1>is a purpose, is to evolve in your stance. And

1387
01:26:06.479 --> 01:26:10.479
<v Speaker 1>exactly what I said, some of these older scientific articles

1388
01:26:10.479 --> 01:26:13.840
<v Speaker 1>that you look back and that are so well done,

1389
01:26:14.359 --> 01:26:17.079
<v Speaker 1>they have exactly that. In their discussion. They give you

1390
01:26:17.119 --> 01:26:20.199
<v Speaker 1>their results, but then they present the papers that are

1391
01:26:20.520 --> 01:26:23.960
<v Speaker 1>that basically support their data, and they also provide papers

1392
01:26:24.079 --> 01:26:26.920
<v Speaker 1>that don't support their data, and then kind of towards

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01:26:26.920 --> 01:26:29.840
<v Speaker 1>the end they give an analysis of why they think

1394
01:26:29.920 --> 01:26:32.319
<v Speaker 1>the papers that did support their data said that, and

1395
01:26:32.359 --> 01:26:34.680
<v Speaker 1>why the papers that didn't support their papers may have

1396
01:26:34.720 --> 01:26:37.880
<v Speaker 1>said that as well, So it's it's a very balanced

1397
01:26:38.600 --> 01:26:41.680
<v Speaker 1>delivery of a discussion of based.

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<v Speaker 5>Not on Yeah, you know what I always tell people

1399
01:26:45.439 --> 01:26:47.600
<v Speaker 5>I see everybody. A lot of people says, Oh, you

1400
01:26:47.640 --> 01:26:49.560
<v Speaker 5>just want to be right, rebirth, you just want to

1401
01:26:49.600 --> 01:26:51.199
<v Speaker 5>be right. I don't want to be right. I want

1402
01:26:51.199 --> 01:26:52.520
<v Speaker 5>to be wrong. And I tell you why I like

1403
01:26:52.600 --> 01:26:55.239
<v Speaker 5>to be wrong. It's because I learned better being wrong.

1404
01:26:55.319 --> 01:26:57.319
<v Speaker 5>I learned from my mistakes, and I don't want to

1405
01:26:57.359 --> 01:26:59.760
<v Speaker 5>repeat the same studidshit that I said before. If you

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01:26:59.800 --> 01:27:01.880
<v Speaker 5>get the source that counter is what I said and

1407
01:27:01.920 --> 01:27:04.680
<v Speaker 5>it's accurate, I'm going to be like, Okay, damn shit,

1408
01:27:04.760 --> 01:27:07.439
<v Speaker 5>I was wrong. Well I was wrong, my source was wrong.

1409
01:27:07.720 --> 01:27:10.239
<v Speaker 5>So now I know better. So next time I can say, Okay,

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01:27:10.279 --> 01:27:11.760
<v Speaker 5>this is what I've learned, and this was what this

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01:27:11.800 --> 01:27:14.439
<v Speaker 5>person taught me. Afterwards, It's not about being right for me,

1412
01:27:14.520 --> 01:27:16.720
<v Speaker 5>it's just about gaining knowledge. If I if i'm I

1413
01:27:16.760 --> 01:27:18.560
<v Speaker 5>can't live in a bubble. I can't live in the

1414
01:27:18.600 --> 01:27:20.640
<v Speaker 5>bubble thinking that one thing is right. That's why I

1415
01:27:20.720 --> 01:27:23.199
<v Speaker 5>like to read something that goes with what I learned,

1416
01:27:23.319 --> 01:27:26.520
<v Speaker 5>and then I like to read something that goes against it.

1417
01:27:26.600 --> 01:27:29.920
<v Speaker 5>So I'm reading the counter argument, and I'm reading many

1418
01:27:30.000 --> 01:27:32.279
<v Speaker 5>of these counter arguments, and I'm finding the people.

1419
01:27:32.039 --> 01:27:34.279
<v Speaker 8>Who argue with each other right the people.

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01:27:34.479 --> 01:27:35.720
<v Speaker 6>A lot of people don't realize this.

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01:27:35.800 --> 01:27:38.000
<v Speaker 5>In the Greek times, there was a time where they

1422
01:27:38.039 --> 01:27:39.760
<v Speaker 5>would go to the middle of the city or some

1423
01:27:40.439 --> 01:27:43.079
<v Speaker 5>area and they would and two people would have a discussion,

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01:27:43.119 --> 01:27:44.279
<v Speaker 5>and they will be arguments.

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01:27:44.279 --> 01:27:46.039
<v Speaker 6>They would curse at each other, they would.

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01:27:45.880 --> 01:27:47.600
<v Speaker 5>Tell each other stupid, and this, that and third, and

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01:27:47.600 --> 01:27:49.479
<v Speaker 5>then the next day they would go back there and

1428
01:27:49.479 --> 01:27:52.039
<v Speaker 5>then they would have that same discussion and they would say, well,

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01:27:52.119 --> 01:27:54.000
<v Speaker 5>did you look up what I told you or did

1430
01:27:54.039 --> 01:27:55.920
<v Speaker 5>you do your due diligence from that? And if you

1431
01:27:55.920 --> 01:27:58.079
<v Speaker 5>don't do your due diligence, then you're only just trying

1432
01:27:58.079 --> 01:28:00.600
<v Speaker 5>to create a narrative for people to believe what you believe.

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01:28:00.640 --> 01:28:02.439
<v Speaker 5>I don't want people to believe what I believe, because

1434
01:28:02.439 --> 01:28:03.920
<v Speaker 5>I'm telling you you're not going to be able to

1435
01:28:03.920 --> 01:28:05.880
<v Speaker 5>believe what I believe, because it's going to change daily.

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01:28:05.920 --> 01:28:07.600
<v Speaker 5>Every time I pick up a damn book, my mind

1437
01:28:07.640 --> 01:28:12.039
<v Speaker 5>goes from regular to exploding. You know what I'm saying,

1438
01:28:12.079 --> 01:28:15.199
<v Speaker 5>because I can't figure out what the hell I had

1439
01:28:15.239 --> 01:28:18.199
<v Speaker 5>one idea just two three days ago, two three months ago,

1440
01:28:18.279 --> 01:28:21.119
<v Speaker 5>two three years ago, I read something that totally changed that.

1441
01:28:21.239 --> 01:28:24.560
<v Speaker 5>Now I'm back in, going back to the beginning with everything.

1442
01:28:25.640 --> 01:28:27.920
<v Speaker 5>But I love that because it tells me that, hey,

1443
01:28:28.039 --> 01:28:31.159
<v Speaker 5>I'm involving, just likely to say I'm involved, I'm taking knowledge,

1444
01:28:31.159 --> 01:28:33.560
<v Speaker 5>and I'm saying, okay, I learned this two three years ago.

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01:28:33.640 --> 01:28:35.359
<v Speaker 6>It wasn't correct, and let me go ahead.

1446
01:28:35.359 --> 01:28:37.199
<v Speaker 5>And that's why I like a lot of revised books,

1447
01:28:37.239 --> 01:28:39.560
<v Speaker 5>because if you read the revised books, and I give

1448
01:28:39.560 --> 01:28:41.680
<v Speaker 5>you a perfect example, a lot of people talk about

1449
01:28:41.760 --> 01:28:44.520
<v Speaker 5>Darwinism them a lot don't realize that Darwin revised his.

1450
01:28:44.479 --> 01:28:46.880
<v Speaker 6>Books over and over again, and he's died.

1451
01:28:47.319 --> 01:28:49.520
<v Speaker 5>And if you're picking one thing out is out of

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01:28:49.560 --> 01:28:51.560
<v Speaker 5>his book that you're going to create a narrative on,

1453
01:28:51.840 --> 01:28:53.760
<v Speaker 5>I can go to a revised version be like, shit,

1454
01:28:53.800 --> 01:28:55.439
<v Speaker 5>he did say he messed up there, So what's your

1455
01:28:55.479 --> 01:28:55.960
<v Speaker 5>point now?

1456
01:28:57.039 --> 01:29:01.439
<v Speaker 2>So absolutely I admire that, and that's that's a beautiful

1457
01:29:01.520 --> 01:29:07.279
<v Speaker 2>characteristic to embrace honestly and live by. I appreciate any

1458
01:29:07.319 --> 01:29:10.680
<v Speaker 2>time any because you can't have, as I mentioned, an

1459
01:29:10.680 --> 01:29:14.560
<v Speaker 2>agenda to be right. That doesn't even make sense, you know,

1460
01:29:14.680 --> 01:29:18.239
<v Speaker 2>And and so my entire goal is just to once

1461
01:29:18.239 --> 01:29:22.560
<v Speaker 2>again somehow make sense of it for myself, right, And

1462
01:29:22.560 --> 01:29:27.199
<v Speaker 2>and through that process I hope to discover the objective truth, Right,

1463
01:29:27.279 --> 01:29:30.399
<v Speaker 2>that's the goal. And so I'm always attempting to consider

1464
01:29:30.479 --> 01:29:34.119
<v Speaker 2>the counter argument, as you mentioned before, and and because

1465
01:29:34.159 --> 01:29:38.319
<v Speaker 2>if you if you aren't giving yourself a well rounded

1466
01:29:38.359 --> 01:29:42.840
<v Speaker 2>picture of the full spectrum, right, the broad scope of things,

1467
01:29:43.479 --> 01:29:46.880
<v Speaker 2>then you're limiting your vision and perspective. You're not going

1468
01:29:46.920 --> 01:29:50.000
<v Speaker 2>to have the ability to engage in an honest way

1469
01:29:50.079 --> 01:29:53.159
<v Speaker 2>in the first place, because you're at a disadvantage inherently

1470
01:29:53.560 --> 01:29:56.840
<v Speaker 2>so that you've you put yourself in that position, right,

1471
01:29:56.880 --> 01:29:59.560
<v Speaker 2>And we're all in that position anyway, we're all under

1472
01:29:59.640 --> 01:30:03.000
<v Speaker 2>agnowled as far as like we're all there's so many

1473
01:30:03.079 --> 01:30:06.039
<v Speaker 2>things that we've all yet been exposed to you have

1474
01:30:06.159 --> 01:30:08.239
<v Speaker 2>yet to be exposed to, I mean, right, And and that

1475
01:30:08.279 --> 01:30:12.319
<v Speaker 2>in itself leaves us at a disadvantage. But all we

1476
01:30:12.399 --> 01:30:16.039
<v Speaker 2>can hope for is to remain sort of centered and

1477
01:30:16.079 --> 01:30:19.199
<v Speaker 2>grounded in a way to where we are acknowledging that

1478
01:30:19.239 --> 01:30:23.399
<v Speaker 2>fact and moving forward, you know, understanding that there's so

1479
01:30:23.520 --> 01:30:25.800
<v Speaker 2>much more for me to learn here. But still I

1480
01:30:25.840 --> 01:30:32.000
<v Speaker 2>think that in terms of these these like the example

1481
01:30:32.239 --> 01:30:36.039
<v Speaker 2>of Delphi itself, right, if you, I think it takes

1482
01:30:36.720 --> 01:30:40.079
<v Speaker 2>getting yourself to to kind of like you have to

1483
01:30:40.119 --> 01:30:44.199
<v Speaker 2>already be digging below the surface at a deeper layer

1484
01:30:44.239 --> 01:30:47.359
<v Speaker 2>of understanding before you're even willing to engage with a

1485
01:30:47.439 --> 01:30:50.239
<v Speaker 2>case such as this. And from the angle that we're taking,

1486
01:30:50.319 --> 01:30:52.600
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, I think that that I

1487
01:30:52.600 --> 01:30:56.439
<v Speaker 2>stumble across many of those people. But fortunately for us,

1488
01:30:57.600 --> 01:31:00.920
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of sloppy psychological operation is happening all

1489
01:31:00.960 --> 01:31:03.399
<v Speaker 2>over the place, you know, at all times. And you

1490
01:31:03.439 --> 01:31:04.600
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, I.

1491
01:31:04.520 --> 01:31:07.359
<v Speaker 4>Think, right, so you've got too many going on, they're

1492
01:31:07.359 --> 01:31:08.439
<v Speaker 4>getting sloppy about it.

1493
01:31:09.000 --> 01:31:12.119
<v Speaker 2>One hundred and so more and more people from all

1494
01:31:12.199 --> 01:31:15.680
<v Speaker 2>walks of the political spectrum are becoming more willing to,

1495
01:31:16.399 --> 01:31:21.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, at least engage in certain more open minded

1496
01:31:21.479 --> 01:31:25.880
<v Speaker 2>conversation than I've seen previously. I do appreciate that, and

1497
01:31:26.239 --> 01:31:30.079
<v Speaker 2>I think that, you know, maybe that is a sign

1498
01:31:30.239 --> 01:31:32.800
<v Speaker 2>for optimism at the very least, you know. But at

1499
01:31:32.800 --> 01:31:35.319
<v Speaker 2>the same time, it's like, once again, I'm not responsible

1500
01:31:35.359 --> 01:31:37.439
<v Speaker 2>for any of that. It's just, you know what I mean,

1501
01:31:37.680 --> 01:31:41.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm just here hoping for the best, expecting the worst

1502
01:31:41.319 --> 01:31:43.640
<v Speaker 2>most of the time, and that's not that's not a

1503
01:31:43.680 --> 01:31:45.720
<v Speaker 2>black pill. I just think it's a little bit of

1504
01:31:46.159 --> 01:31:50.560
<v Speaker 2>being realistic in a certain sense, just as far as

1505
01:31:51.239 --> 01:31:53.600
<v Speaker 2>holding out a hope for political puppets and things of

1506
01:31:53.600 --> 01:31:57.359
<v Speaker 2>that nature is just you know, to me ignorant. You know,

1507
01:31:57.439 --> 01:32:01.079
<v Speaker 2>you've yet to learn from your previous mistakes, right and

1508
01:32:01.079 --> 01:32:04.560
<v Speaker 2>and uh and so I'm grateful that I can opt

1509
01:32:04.600 --> 01:32:08.239
<v Speaker 2>out of this and kind of distance myself from feeling

1510
01:32:08.239 --> 01:32:13.439
<v Speaker 2>as if I play a direct part in the consequential

1511
01:32:13.479 --> 01:32:16.159
<v Speaker 2>outcome and the nature of the current state of reality

1512
01:32:16.199 --> 01:32:20.159
<v Speaker 2>and the power paradigm itself. Like and we're all kind

1513
01:32:20.159 --> 01:32:22.119
<v Speaker 2>of just children waking up in the middle of a

1514
01:32:22.159 --> 01:32:24.520
<v Speaker 2>movie theater, right, like trying to figure out the plot

1515
01:32:25.600 --> 01:32:27.560
<v Speaker 2>that's honestly way into the movie.

1516
01:32:27.359 --> 01:32:33.640
<v Speaker 1>Right Yeah, Yeah, we're all children still at the chalkboard

1517
01:32:33.640 --> 01:32:36.119
<v Speaker 1>trying to learn our alphabet this.

1518
01:32:36.520 --> 01:32:39.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. And I put it in when I was

1519
01:32:39.760 --> 01:32:42.399
<v Speaker 2>on Nefluindes squad the other day. They asked me because

1520
01:32:42.399 --> 01:32:47.039
<v Speaker 2>I've been like, I think I've just been one. I

1521
01:32:47.039 --> 01:32:52.279
<v Speaker 2>think I've just been probably over I think I've been one.

1522
01:32:52.399 --> 01:32:55.439
<v Speaker 2>I've been having too many of these, Like, first of all,

1523
01:32:55.439 --> 01:32:59.680
<v Speaker 2>I've been remaining on this path of investigation into certain

1524
01:33:00.039 --> 01:33:03.720
<v Speaker 2>out trafficking networks. I've spent too much time bogged down

1525
01:33:03.760 --> 01:33:07.279
<v Speaker 2>and the disgusting, uh you know, disturbing details of the

1526
01:33:07.279 --> 01:33:09.920
<v Speaker 2>cases and things of that nature, and it has an

1527
01:33:09.960 --> 01:33:13.479
<v Speaker 2>overall emotional toll. It legitimately does, and you have to,

1528
01:33:13.600 --> 01:33:16.119
<v Speaker 2>like for your own well being, pivot away to different

1529
01:33:16.119 --> 01:33:19.199
<v Speaker 2>directions of interest and and and and uh and pursue

1530
01:33:19.239 --> 01:33:24.880
<v Speaker 2>other avenues of thought because it I remember, uh and

1531
01:33:25.159 --> 01:33:28.920
<v Speaker 2>Raven put it as I sort of gazed into the abyss,

1532
01:33:29.159 --> 01:33:31.920
<v Speaker 2>that sort of situation and all that all that it

1533
01:33:32.000 --> 01:33:35.359
<v Speaker 2>reminded me of was eight Millimeter, the film by Nicholas

1534
01:33:35.399 --> 01:33:40.119
<v Speaker 2>Cage n right, so crazy, and it kind of introduces

1535
01:33:40.199 --> 01:33:41.960
<v Speaker 2>the concept of a snuff flash today.

1536
01:33:42.119 --> 01:33:46.479
<v Speaker 3>I remember that as a kid, probably disturbing brother.

1537
01:33:46.720 --> 01:33:50.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and uh and but but gosh, I mean, like,

1538
01:33:50.199 --> 01:33:52.880
<v Speaker 2>the the issue is that snuff films have been essentially

1539
01:33:53.079 --> 01:33:55.840
<v Speaker 2>labeled as an and mischaracterized as an urban myth for

1540
01:33:55.880 --> 01:33:58.680
<v Speaker 2>how long. I mean, it's just laughable at this point, right,

1541
01:33:58.760 --> 01:34:01.600
<v Speaker 2>And and that that kind of fits perfectly with the

1542
01:34:01.600 --> 01:34:06.960
<v Speaker 2>manufactured uh you know, sort of satanic panic hysteria, attempt

1543
01:34:06.960 --> 01:34:11.079
<v Speaker 2>to to miss label and misdiagnose and misdirect the true

1544
01:34:11.520 --> 01:34:16.159
<v Speaker 2>uh truly occurring and legitimately, you know, at least I

1545
01:34:16.159 --> 01:34:18.680
<v Speaker 2>think there's plenty of evidence that proves that real satanic

1546
01:34:18.760 --> 01:34:22.119
<v Speaker 2>ritual abuse has occurred, you know, and and uh, they

1547
01:34:22.159 --> 01:34:24.840
<v Speaker 2>say they satanic panic was sort of just this way

1548
01:34:24.880 --> 01:34:29.960
<v Speaker 2>to uh, you know, clearly sort of you know, I

1549
01:34:29.960 --> 01:34:33.600
<v Speaker 2>think the point was to obviously create this this uh

1550
01:34:34.359 --> 01:34:37.680
<v Speaker 2>really this manufactured misconception. I think that that was the

1551
01:34:37.800 --> 01:34:41.039
<v Speaker 2>ultimate agenda there, and it sort of falls in line

1552
01:34:41.079 --> 01:34:43.239
<v Speaker 2>with the concept of serial killers at this point as well,

1553
01:34:43.279 --> 01:34:47.640
<v Speaker 2>I think personally. But but uh, it's this manufactured misconception

1554
01:34:47.760 --> 01:34:51.920
<v Speaker 2>that was the conveniently constructed uh, satanic panic excuse and

1555
01:34:52.039 --> 01:34:56.079
<v Speaker 2>just an oversimplification of mass hysteria and and in reality,

1556
01:34:57.039 --> 01:34:59.520
<v Speaker 2>eight millimeter The reason that I brought it up because

1557
01:34:59.520 --> 01:35:02.239
<v Speaker 2>it reminded me that one, this is what I do

1558
01:35:02.319 --> 01:35:06.479
<v Speaker 2>love about sort of you know, having a fictional narrative

1559
01:35:07.039 --> 01:35:10.560
<v Speaker 2>be extremely valuable in terms of introducing the public to

1560
01:35:10.720 --> 01:35:14.840
<v Speaker 2>the notion that snuff films exist and and eight millimeter

1561
01:35:15.199 --> 01:35:21.520
<v Speaker 2>film strips are how effectively these pedophile networks can circumvent

1562
01:35:22.359 --> 01:35:26.159
<v Speaker 2>being discovered through shipping child pornography through the mail. And

1563
01:35:26.239 --> 01:35:29.600
<v Speaker 2>so if you keep them as undeveloped eight eight millimeter

1564
01:35:29.680 --> 01:35:32.760
<v Speaker 2>film strips, then they will not be able to discover

1565
01:35:32.840 --> 01:35:35.560
<v Speaker 2>what's on the film, and therefore you can sort of

1566
01:35:35.600 --> 01:35:39.960
<v Speaker 2>circumvent the legal process and and distribute child pornography. And

1567
01:35:40.000 --> 01:35:43.640
<v Speaker 2>so I didn't realize that until recently. But in uh,

1568
01:35:44.199 --> 01:35:47.800
<v Speaker 2>in watching that movie, there's a scene right where where

1569
01:35:47.920 --> 01:35:50.279
<v Speaker 2>Joaquin Phoenix is a character in the in the movie,

1570
01:35:50.319 --> 01:35:52.680
<v Speaker 2>and he basically works at a porn shop and he's

1571
01:35:52.680 --> 01:35:56.279
<v Speaker 2>behind the counter, and he behind the counter like he

1572
01:35:56.359 --> 01:36:01.680
<v Speaker 2>has he has the uh. He essentially is selling things

1573
01:36:02.800 --> 01:36:05.600
<v Speaker 2>behind the count below, you know, under the table, behind

1574
01:36:05.600 --> 01:36:08.119
<v Speaker 2>the counter. He'll sell things on behalf of the criminal

1575
01:36:08.279 --> 01:36:13.479
<v Speaker 2>enterprise that's participating in let's say, child pornography or ritualistic abuse,

1576
01:36:13.520 --> 01:36:16.199
<v Speaker 2>snuff films, things of that nature. And I will remember

1577
01:36:16.199 --> 01:36:21.119
<v Speaker 2>when he took him to this sort of this underground

1578
01:36:21.359 --> 01:36:24.880
<v Speaker 2>pedophile establishment where there's all these rooms where they're screening

1579
01:36:24.920 --> 01:36:28.000
<v Speaker 2>these snuff films and these child pornography films, and he

1580
01:36:28.079 --> 01:36:31.640
<v Speaker 2>takes Nicholas Cage there, who's basically this private investigator who

1581
01:36:31.680 --> 01:36:35.239
<v Speaker 2>got hired by this elitist, a widow woman who she

1582
01:36:35.399 --> 01:36:38.359
<v Speaker 2>just became a widow her husband was a kind of

1583
01:36:38.399 --> 01:36:41.359
<v Speaker 2>a member of a higher echelon of society. She had

1584
01:36:41.399 --> 01:36:43.680
<v Speaker 2>all the respect and love farm in the world. At

1585
01:36:43.760 --> 01:36:46.960
<v Speaker 2>least that's how the plot is staged at the beginning,

1586
01:36:47.560 --> 01:36:52.079
<v Speaker 2>and she discovered in his private safe after his death

1587
01:36:52.439 --> 01:36:56.720
<v Speaker 2>this undeveloped eight millimeter films trip and so she calls up,

1588
01:36:57.199 --> 01:36:59.479
<v Speaker 2>gets this private investigator who's Nick Cage, who comes and

1589
01:36:59.560 --> 01:37:03.479
<v Speaker 2>screens privately this eight millimeter film strip, and he viscerally

1590
01:37:03.560 --> 01:37:06.479
<v Speaker 2>reacts to the point to where he instantly thinks this

1591
01:37:06.600 --> 01:37:08.720
<v Speaker 2>is real. There's no way this is faked, although he

1592
01:37:08.800 --> 01:37:12.239
<v Speaker 2>tries to justify for himself this is faked, but he

1593
01:37:12.600 --> 01:37:17.159
<v Speaker 2>reacts like anyone would if they saw a real person

1594
01:37:17.239 --> 01:37:19.520
<v Speaker 2>go through that, you know what I mean, which to me,

1595
01:37:20.199 --> 01:37:25.199
<v Speaker 2>obviously it makes it a yeah, far more in terms

1596
01:37:25.239 --> 01:37:27.520
<v Speaker 2>of I think it And obviously it was a snuff

1597
01:37:27.560 --> 01:37:30.600
<v Speaker 2>film in the context of the plot, but the point

1598
01:37:30.680 --> 01:37:35.359
<v Speaker 2>being that the character Walking Phoenix told Nicholas Cage's character

1599
01:37:35.960 --> 01:37:38.439
<v Speaker 2>before he enters the room to screen one of those

1600
01:37:38.600 --> 01:37:43.079
<v Speaker 2>snuff films, and he tells him he dance with the devil.

1601
01:37:43.560 --> 01:37:48.600
<v Speaker 2>The devil doesn't change, the devil changes you, and that

1602
01:37:48.760 --> 01:37:51.880
<v Speaker 2>like resonated with me honestly, it did. And I think

1603
01:37:51.920 --> 01:37:54.399
<v Speaker 2>it's just because I've overexposed myself to a lot of

1604
01:37:54.399 --> 01:37:56.439
<v Speaker 2>the disturbing details in terms of how many of these

1605
01:37:56.520 --> 01:38:01.520
<v Speaker 2>child sex trafficking operations have functioned. It resonated with me

1606
01:38:01.760 --> 01:38:02.640
<v Speaker 2>to my soul.

1607
01:38:03.239 --> 01:38:05.560
<v Speaker 6>You know, I'm pissed at the Epstein list didn't get it.

1608
01:38:05.640 --> 01:38:07.760
<v Speaker 5>And I'm sorry to get tear from that, but I'm

1609
01:38:07.760 --> 01:38:09.880
<v Speaker 5>pissed at That's why the list hasn't been brought out,

1610
01:38:10.039 --> 01:38:12.000
<v Speaker 5>because all we heard for the last few years is

1611
01:38:12.199 --> 01:38:15.199
<v Speaker 5>once I make this presidency, I'm want to release the records.

1612
01:38:15.199 --> 01:38:17.479
<v Speaker 5>Then they said they hit on the fucking table, on

1613
01:38:17.560 --> 01:38:18.960
<v Speaker 5>the desk and all that, and.

1614
01:38:18.840 --> 01:38:20.680
<v Speaker 6>Boom now now it's fake. Now it's fake.

1615
01:38:20.720 --> 01:38:23.399
<v Speaker 5>And I'm just like, come on, man, these are children, yo, Like,

1616
01:38:23.479 --> 01:38:25.319
<v Speaker 5>these are fucking children.

1617
01:38:25.880 --> 01:38:29.119
<v Speaker 6>You know what I mean. Vulnerable, you know what I'm saying.

1618
01:38:29.199 --> 01:38:32.239
<v Speaker 5>And if you have children, you know that's going to

1619
01:38:32.319 --> 01:38:33.800
<v Speaker 5>hit deep in your heart. And I mean, I'm not

1620
01:38:33.800 --> 01:38:35.600
<v Speaker 5>saying that anybody that doesn't have children, that.

1621
01:38:35.680 --> 01:38:38.439
<v Speaker 6>Won't, but Jesus Christ, like, what the fuck?

1622
01:38:38.600 --> 01:38:38.840
<v Speaker 3>Man?

1623
01:38:39.319 --> 01:38:42.960
<v Speaker 5>Like, some people don't put their I just don't get it, bro,

1624
01:38:43.000 --> 01:38:44.960
<v Speaker 5>And it really irritates me and pisses me off that

1625
01:38:45.039 --> 01:38:47.359
<v Speaker 5>people treat children like this. You know what I mean,

1626
01:38:47.840 --> 01:38:55.079
<v Speaker 5>children don't kids don't have a protective How can I

1627
01:38:55.119 --> 01:38:55.720
<v Speaker 5>say they.

1628
01:38:55.640 --> 01:38:56.600
<v Speaker 2>Have no protectors?

1629
01:38:56.840 --> 01:38:59.319
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they have no protectors except us and the ones

1630
01:38:59.359 --> 01:39:00.960
<v Speaker 5>that are supposed to be protecting them.

1631
01:39:01.000 --> 01:39:03.319
<v Speaker 6>They're just throwing everything under the under the bridge like

1632
01:39:03.359 --> 01:39:04.880
<v Speaker 6>it's not ship. You know what I'm saying.

1633
01:39:05.039 --> 01:39:07.359
<v Speaker 5>I'm telling you I could never witness something like that

1634
01:39:07.439 --> 01:39:08.560
<v Speaker 5>and keep my mouth closed.

1635
01:39:08.560 --> 01:39:10.560
<v Speaker 6>I just couldn't. I couldn't, you know what I'm saying.

1636
01:39:10.680 --> 01:39:13.159
<v Speaker 5>And it's crazy that that we got to this, to

1637
01:39:13.600 --> 01:39:17.800
<v Speaker 5>this level of shame that we're putting on on on

1638
01:39:17.840 --> 01:39:21.279
<v Speaker 5>our human side of things. You know, there are person

1639
01:39:21.840 --> 01:39:25.279
<v Speaker 5>there is no reason why that a child should have

1640
01:39:25.319 --> 01:39:27.199
<v Speaker 5>to worry about whether they're going to live and die

1641
01:39:27.239 --> 01:39:29.880
<v Speaker 5>when they go outside, that they're going to get kidnapped.

1642
01:39:30.199 --> 01:39:31.560
<v Speaker 6>You know what I'm saying. There's no reason that a

1643
01:39:31.640 --> 01:39:32.920
<v Speaker 6>child should have to worry about that.

1644
01:39:33.039 --> 01:39:35.760
<v Speaker 5>No person periods should have to worry about that, but children,

1645
01:39:35.840 --> 01:39:37.920
<v Speaker 5>let alone. You know I'm saying, the most vulnerable, Like

1646
01:39:37.960 --> 01:39:40.920
<v Speaker 5>you said, it's just it's sickning man man.

1647
01:39:41.000 --> 01:39:46.199
<v Speaker 2>You know, when I covered the Franklin scandal, oh Man

1648
01:39:46.439 --> 01:39:49.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you it was Franklin led me to the Finders,

1649
01:39:49.680 --> 01:39:53.520
<v Speaker 2>and I wound up at Mark de Trow and it's

1650
01:39:53.600 --> 01:39:56.600
<v Speaker 2>just like, my god, it never ends, man, you know.

1651
01:39:56.680 --> 01:40:00.680
<v Speaker 2>And and but but I am. I'm under the impression now,

1652
01:40:00.720 --> 01:40:02.560
<v Speaker 2>and at some point in the future we might have

1653
01:40:02.600 --> 01:40:05.600
<v Speaker 2>to do another one on this because I'm so well

1654
01:40:05.640 --> 01:40:08.960
<v Speaker 2>aware of the overlapping connections between Franklin, the Finders, the

1655
01:40:08.960 --> 01:40:13.439
<v Speaker 2>Atlanta child murders, of the Dean Choral murders in Houston. Uh,

1656
01:40:14.079 --> 01:40:21.239
<v Speaker 2>John Wayne Gacy, John Wayne that he's, oh, yeah, it's crazy,

1657
01:40:21.479 --> 01:40:23.920
<v Speaker 2>and and uh and we have you know, it's the

1658
01:40:24.000 --> 01:40:30.760
<v Speaker 2>politically protected sort of pedophile underground. That's what it truly is.

1659
01:40:30.960 --> 01:40:34.520
<v Speaker 2>And and and uh And the Franklin scandal, the way

1660
01:40:34.520 --> 01:40:37.319
<v Speaker 2>I described it was it truly kind of exposed the

1661
01:40:37.399 --> 01:40:41.520
<v Speaker 2>cognitive dissonance, forcing us to grapple with the psychological consequences

1662
01:40:41.960 --> 01:40:47.039
<v Speaker 2>of a corrupt system designed to protect prolific predators in

1663
01:40:47.079 --> 01:40:51.439
<v Speaker 2>the elite strata of society who strategically forged political connections

1664
01:40:51.479 --> 01:40:56.439
<v Speaker 2>and media influence. A dark and twisted odyssey revealing a

1665
01:40:56.520 --> 01:41:01.239
<v Speaker 2>nationwide pedophile network pandering children to America's power elite. And

1666
01:41:01.319 --> 01:41:04.960
<v Speaker 2>Nick Bryant himself, who wrote The Franklin Scandal. He says,

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01:41:05.159 --> 01:41:07.199
<v Speaker 2>this stuck with me forever, and when we had him

1668
01:41:07.239 --> 01:41:13.479
<v Speaker 2>on the show, I brought this up and it legitimately

1669
01:41:13.520 --> 01:41:17.840
<v Speaker 2>when I read this, it's what truly took for me.

1670
01:41:17.880 --> 01:41:22.119
<v Speaker 2>The Franklin Scandal helped really remove that veil of naivete

1671
01:41:22.199 --> 01:41:25.520
<v Speaker 2>in terms of how these state sponsor child trafficking operations

1672
01:41:25.560 --> 01:41:29.239
<v Speaker 2>have truly, you know, been facilitated and covered up, and

1673
01:41:30.479 --> 01:41:34.439
<v Speaker 2>what he said in terms of our society in the book,

1674
01:41:34.840 --> 01:41:39.159
<v Speaker 2>he writes, I wasn't so much anguished by the threats

1675
01:41:39.279 --> 01:41:43.159
<v Speaker 2>and intimidation I endured delving into the arcane mysteries of

1676
01:41:43.199 --> 01:41:47.800
<v Speaker 2>this universe, but rather by the realization of its very existence,

1677
01:41:48.560 --> 01:41:53.239
<v Speaker 2>a universe that encompasses the refined industrial destruction of children

1678
01:41:53.680 --> 01:41:56.399
<v Speaker 2>and its cover up by the very state and federal

1679
01:41:56.399 --> 01:41:59.520
<v Speaker 2>authorities who have pledged to protect children from the depravity

1680
01:41:59.560 --> 01:42:03.680
<v Speaker 2>of evil men. The children and our society as a

1681
01:42:03.720 --> 01:42:09.600
<v Speaker 2>whole have been betrayed, and that just like you know,

1682
01:42:10.359 --> 01:42:14.199
<v Speaker 2>my heart and soul could not could not be represented,

1683
01:42:15.039 --> 01:42:18.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, in any better way, honestly, And this is

1684
01:42:18.600 --> 01:42:22.199
<v Speaker 2>the environment we exist in, and it's up to people

1685
01:42:22.239 --> 01:42:26.560
<v Speaker 2>like us who are at the very least willing willing

1686
01:42:26.600 --> 01:42:33.680
<v Speaker 2>to dive into these dark avenues of investigation, you know

1687
01:42:33.680 --> 01:42:38.159
<v Speaker 2>what I mean. And yeah, it's only then that you

1688
01:42:38.199 --> 01:42:42.720
<v Speaker 2>can kind of provide yourself right with with a with

1689
01:42:42.840 --> 01:42:47.039
<v Speaker 2>some sort of fundamental framework for how this is truly

1690
01:42:47.239 --> 01:42:51.960
<v Speaker 2>being facilitated underneath our noses and before our very own eyes,

1691
01:42:52.319 --> 01:42:56.279
<v Speaker 2>you know. And yeah, the Trow, My god, the Trow

1692
01:42:56.399 --> 01:42:58.079
<v Speaker 2>is the worst thing I've ever read in my life.

1693
01:42:58.119 --> 01:43:02.039
<v Speaker 2>I've never been more I've never been more affected than

1694
01:43:02.039 --> 01:43:04.399
<v Speaker 2>when I read through the X one dossier right the

1695
01:43:04.479 --> 01:43:08.760
<v Speaker 2>ex the Belgium X Files. We're talking the most sadistic

1696
01:43:08.800 --> 01:43:11.399
<v Speaker 2>and sinister forms of sexual abuse on children you could

1697
01:43:11.439 --> 01:43:15.079
<v Speaker 2>ever imagine. I couldn't even imagine it until I read

1698
01:43:15.079 --> 01:43:18.800
<v Speaker 2>through it, that's how disturbing it is. And I never

1699
01:43:18.840 --> 01:43:24.399
<v Speaker 2>in my life did I read something and legitimately, dude,

1700
01:43:24.399 --> 01:43:27.399
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't read the next sentence, you know, like I

1701
01:43:27.720 --> 01:43:30.199
<v Speaker 2>knew what I was about to read, and I had

1702
01:43:30.199 --> 01:43:34.720
<v Speaker 2>like viscerally turned my face away from the computer said

1703
01:43:34.800 --> 01:43:37.359
<v Speaker 2>fuck that, you know what I'm saying, Like it like

1704
01:43:37.439 --> 01:43:38.720
<v Speaker 2>affected me that deeply.

1705
01:43:40.039 --> 01:43:40.880
<v Speaker 6>Ah, It's just.

1706
01:43:40.920 --> 01:43:45.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how you're not even human? You know

1707
01:43:46.039 --> 01:43:49.279
<v Speaker 2>if you can do something like that to another person,

1708
01:43:50.239 --> 01:43:55.119
<v Speaker 2>let alone a child, you know. But anyway, damn, I'm sorry, guys,

1709
01:43:55.399 --> 01:43:59.399
<v Speaker 2>I haven't eaten all days anything that doesn't help.

1710
01:44:00.960 --> 01:44:04.000
<v Speaker 6>Well, this is wonderful, man, that great.

1711
01:44:04.840 --> 01:44:09.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, appreciate you, of course, man. But I really am

1712
01:44:09.439 --> 01:44:11.359
<v Speaker 2>willing if you guys ever want to in the future

1713
01:44:11.439 --> 01:44:15.600
<v Speaker 2>do another episode on something that has to do with this,

1714
01:44:15.640 --> 01:44:19.720
<v Speaker 2>because this is probably my wheelhouse more than anything at

1715
01:44:19.720 --> 01:44:25.000
<v Speaker 2>this moment. Unfortunately, is the brutal, unfortunate reality of the sadistic,

1716
01:44:25.079 --> 01:44:31.000
<v Speaker 2>sinister child trafficking operations. And yeah, unfortunately there's more evidence

1717
01:44:31.039 --> 01:44:36.119
<v Speaker 2>than you would ever like to discover, you know, not to.

1718
01:44:36.119 --> 01:44:39.720
<v Speaker 1>Be labor it, but I think another tangent that maybe

1719
01:44:39.760 --> 01:44:43.439
<v Speaker 1>we can even do another episode on. It's not just pedophelia.

1720
01:44:43.920 --> 01:44:48.239
<v Speaker 1>It transcends that in that some of these groups or

1721
01:44:48.239 --> 01:44:52.399
<v Speaker 1>these secret societies are trying to manifest or trying to

1722
01:44:52.600 --> 01:44:57.399
<v Speaker 1>bring God into a vessel and control it. And so

1723
01:44:57.960 --> 01:45:03.199
<v Speaker 1>sometimes we have to we have to s it see

1724
01:45:03.239 --> 01:45:05.920
<v Speaker 1>it from a different perspective. It's still wrong, it's still evil,

1725
01:45:06.000 --> 01:45:08.640
<v Speaker 1>it's all that, but you also have to see it

1726
01:45:08.680 --> 01:45:12.439
<v Speaker 1>that it's also for the benefit of themselves, not just

1727
01:45:12.520 --> 01:45:15.159
<v Speaker 1>in that regard, and I think it gets chalked up

1728
01:45:15.199 --> 01:45:18.000
<v Speaker 1>into oh, it's Satanism or it's ritual satan and abuse

1729
01:45:18.039 --> 01:45:20.039
<v Speaker 1>and blah blah, and so they just lump it into

1730
01:45:20.079 --> 01:45:22.439
<v Speaker 1>this category and it just goes on a shelf and

1731
01:45:22.479 --> 01:45:25.920
<v Speaker 1>we never look at it again. But you're it's just that,

1732
01:45:26.159 --> 01:45:29.159
<v Speaker 1>and it's not just that, it's so many other facets

1733
01:45:29.159 --> 01:45:30.680
<v Speaker 1>of so many other things.

1734
01:45:30.840 --> 01:45:35.600
<v Speaker 4>Actually chalking it off as satanism, I think actually kind

1735
01:45:35.600 --> 01:45:37.479
<v Speaker 4>of plays down like what really could be.

1736
01:45:37.600 --> 01:45:45.319
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Yeah, I just think satanic ritual abuse. I used

1737
01:45:45.399 --> 01:45:48.960
<v Speaker 2>the term because I think it's it's it refers more

1738
01:45:49.039 --> 01:45:53.520
<v Speaker 2>to like SRA to me, refers to like this layering

1739
01:45:53.560 --> 01:45:56.439
<v Speaker 2>in sort of there's a mind control aspect to it.

1740
01:45:56.520 --> 01:46:01.399
<v Speaker 2>There's there's obviously trauma based mind control through the monarch techniques,

1741
01:46:02.039 --> 01:46:06.479
<v Speaker 2>you know, administering these altars hypnotism so much is definitely involved.

1742
01:46:06.520 --> 01:46:11.479
<v Speaker 2>Pharmaceuticals very much involved. But you know, it's like they

1743
01:46:11.520 --> 01:46:15.000
<v Speaker 2>have to they have to distort your brain chemistry, they

1744
01:46:15.039 --> 01:46:19.479
<v Speaker 2>have to disrupt your neural pathways like they create. I

1745
01:46:19.479 --> 01:46:22.920
<v Speaker 2>couldn't imagine when I was reading the XT dossier, hundreds

1746
01:46:22.920 --> 01:46:26.079
<v Speaker 2>of different altars she had, and each of them were

1747
01:46:26.680 --> 01:46:31.359
<v Speaker 2>like basically they were different ages, they spoke differently. One

1748
01:46:31.399 --> 01:46:34.279
<v Speaker 2>of them was the whore that they had created in her,

1749
01:46:34.640 --> 01:46:37.920
<v Speaker 2>where she acted as if she deserved everything that happened.

1750
01:46:38.319 --> 01:46:41.520
<v Speaker 2>You know. It's just like, yeah, man, talk about submissive

1751
01:46:42.079 --> 01:46:48.159
<v Speaker 2>being conditioned. You know, it's disturbing as hell. But yeah,

1752
01:46:48.239 --> 01:46:49.840
<v Speaker 2>that's the only reason that I kind of use the

1753
01:46:49.960 --> 01:46:52.479
<v Speaker 2>term in a more like umbrella fashion, you know what

1754
01:46:52.560 --> 01:46:52.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean.

1755
01:46:52.880 --> 01:46:53.800
<v Speaker 6>But I do agree with you.

1756
01:46:54.720 --> 01:46:56.560
<v Speaker 4>I think it's easier for people trying to get out

1757
01:46:56.560 --> 01:46:58.640
<v Speaker 4>what you're saying just by using that as a brut

1758
01:46:58.680 --> 01:47:02.079
<v Speaker 4>Tom No, I get that, but uh, listen again, thank

1759
01:47:02.119 --> 01:47:02.800
<v Speaker 4>you for coming on.

1760
01:47:02.840 --> 01:47:04.600
<v Speaker 3>Please let everybody know where they can find all your

1761
01:47:04.600 --> 01:47:05.119
<v Speaker 3>amazing work.

1762
01:47:05.119 --> 01:47:10.760
<v Speaker 2>Again, thank you so much, guys. I really do love

1763
01:47:10.800 --> 01:47:15.680
<v Speaker 2>these conversations, and hopefully I wasn't too like I feel

1764
01:47:15.680 --> 01:47:20.039
<v Speaker 2>like my mind works a little schizophrenic and sporadic at times,

1765
01:47:20.079 --> 01:47:22.960
<v Speaker 2>and I think I didn't eat today, so that doesn't

1766
01:47:22.960 --> 01:47:25.800
<v Speaker 2>help with the clarity of my vision when I'm I'm

1767
01:47:25.800 --> 01:47:31.000
<v Speaker 2>just going certain ideas. But uh, but yeah, I love

1768
01:47:31.039 --> 01:47:36.199
<v Speaker 2>these conversations and meeting people who are emotionally affected in

1769
01:47:36.279 --> 01:47:40.239
<v Speaker 2>similar ways. Yeah, it gives me hope. Man, You know,

1770
01:47:40.239 --> 01:47:43.439
<v Speaker 2>what I mean. So I can't thank you enough just

1771
01:47:43.479 --> 01:47:46.680
<v Speaker 2>for the the ability to have these open minded conversations

1772
01:47:46.720 --> 01:47:50.119
<v Speaker 2>and and kind of legitimately grapple with some of the

1773
01:47:50.520 --> 01:47:56.000
<v Speaker 2>most difficult details that that you could really face in

1774
01:47:56.039 --> 01:47:59.279
<v Speaker 2>an objective way, and and so but anyway, yeah, you

1775
01:47:59.279 --> 01:48:03.039
<v Speaker 2>guys can all find me at The Underclass Podcast. Definitely

1776
01:48:03.079 --> 01:48:06.399
<v Speaker 2>the best place to support me is patreon dot com

1777
01:48:06.399 --> 01:48:09.960
<v Speaker 2>slash the Underclass Podcast. I have a paywallt show there

1778
01:48:10.119 --> 01:48:14.000
<v Speaker 2>for just at least there's some incentive for listeners who

1779
01:48:14.920 --> 01:48:17.000
<v Speaker 2>even at the three dollars to your level, you can

1780
01:48:17.039 --> 01:48:19.680
<v Speaker 2>gain access to it. It's called whatever this is. And

1781
01:48:19.720 --> 01:48:22.680
<v Speaker 2>it's me and Brad Binkley from The Propaganda Report and

1782
01:48:22.720 --> 01:48:25.319
<v Speaker 2>Sam Tripley from timfoil Hat and it's been a lot

1783
01:48:25.319 --> 01:48:27.000
<v Speaker 2>of fun. Actually, I saw them text me earlier and

1784
01:48:27.079 --> 01:48:29.119
<v Speaker 2>I better text them back soon because I think they're

1785
01:48:29.119 --> 01:48:31.960
<v Speaker 2>going to try and do the show today. So anyway,

1786
01:48:32.399 --> 01:48:34.800
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, that's definitely the best place to support me.

1787
01:48:34.880 --> 01:48:38.319
<v Speaker 2>And but yeah, beyond that, I have a show every

1788
01:48:38.359 --> 01:48:42.239
<v Speaker 2>Tuesday night. It typically it's at nine thirty pm Eastern time.

1789
01:48:42.279 --> 01:48:44.199
<v Speaker 2>It's called Already Dead We do it. It's a call

1790
01:48:44.279 --> 01:48:44.960
<v Speaker 2>in show.

1791
01:48:46.199 --> 01:48:47.520
<v Speaker 3>Plugged that if you didn't, I was going to say,

1792
01:48:47.560 --> 01:48:48.119
<v Speaker 3>you have a live show.

1793
01:48:48.279 --> 01:48:50.520
<v Speaker 2>Everybody, thank you, thank you. I know I've been so

1794
01:48:50.640 --> 01:48:53.279
<v Speaker 2>bad about plugging that. For some reason I can't ever

1795
01:48:53.359 --> 01:48:55.840
<v Speaker 2>remember too, I'm bad about my plugs in general. I'm

1796
01:48:56.640 --> 01:48:57.800
<v Speaker 2>just like, thank you, guys.

1797
01:48:58.680 --> 01:49:01.159
<v Speaker 4>But so, yeah, he said, I interrupted you, So let

1798
01:49:01.199 --> 01:49:02.560
<v Speaker 4>everybody know again when is it?

1799
01:49:02.600 --> 01:49:03.520
<v Speaker 6>Oh you're good brother.

1800
01:49:04.640 --> 01:49:07.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So every Tuesday night already dead nine thirty Eastern time,

1801
01:49:08.119 --> 01:49:10.479
<v Speaker 2>forty five minutes kind of shooting the bull, and then

1802
01:49:11.319 --> 01:49:14.920
<v Speaker 2>we do another however long, just kind of hanging out

1803
01:49:14.960 --> 01:49:18.479
<v Speaker 2>with the patrons or whoever calls in, and it's a

1804
01:49:18.479 --> 01:49:21.359
<v Speaker 2>good time. We talk a little bit more of about

1805
01:49:22.279 --> 01:49:25.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, current events, you know, more than than and

1806
01:49:25.760 --> 01:49:28.199
<v Speaker 2>then also like whatever we're spurging on at the time,

1807
01:49:28.319 --> 01:49:32.760
<v Speaker 2>for my personal solo projects for the underclass that I'm

1808
01:49:32.800 --> 01:49:35.279
<v Speaker 2>pursuing and things of that. My most recent one was

1809
01:49:35.399 --> 01:49:41.119
<v Speaker 2>the Atlanta child murders and Wayne Williams and yeah, safe

1810
01:49:41.119 --> 01:49:43.520
<v Speaker 2>to say I didn't expect an Iran contract connection there

1811
01:49:43.560 --> 01:49:46.560
<v Speaker 2>and then things of that, but you know, hey, heck

1812
01:49:47.399 --> 01:49:51.760
<v Speaker 2>it's a lot deeper. But yeah, so I encourage anybody

1813
01:49:51.760 --> 01:49:53.760
<v Speaker 2>who's interested go check that one out. And I did

1814
01:49:53.760 --> 01:49:56.000
<v Speaker 2>an interview about it as well with William Ramsey. It

1815
01:49:56.039 --> 01:49:58.199
<v Speaker 2>was it was a lot of fun, pretty well received,

1816
01:49:58.239 --> 01:50:01.520
<v Speaker 2>so check that out. And and beyond that, I think we're

1817
01:50:01.560 --> 01:50:03.640
<v Speaker 2>having Me and Me and Jewels are going to have

1818
01:50:03.720 --> 01:50:07.319
<v Speaker 2>a donut on I think on Tuesday, So that'll be fun.

1819
01:50:07.359 --> 01:50:12.039
<v Speaker 3>Man to one ritual, Great Pilled, right Jewels from Great Pill.

1820
01:50:12.119 --> 01:50:12.800
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah.

1821
01:50:13.239 --> 01:50:16.079
<v Speaker 3>He also goes on your already dead sometimes as well. Correct.

1822
01:50:16.439 --> 01:50:20.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well, basically we made him the producer after Adam

1823
01:50:20.199 --> 01:50:22.880
<v Speaker 2>from Deborget's Red Pill decided. You know, he he was

1824
01:50:23.000 --> 01:50:25.439
<v Speaker 2>he had too much going on. He was trying he

1825
01:50:25.439 --> 01:50:28.520
<v Speaker 2>had stopped doing the show anyway, and it was just

1826
01:50:28.840 --> 01:50:32.000
<v Speaker 2>trying to focus on jiu jitsu and homesteading a little

1827
01:50:32.000 --> 01:50:35.439
<v Speaker 2>bit more, which I admire very much. But so whenever

1828
01:50:35.720 --> 01:50:38.760
<v Speaker 2>he decided he was going to bow out, Jewles just

1829
01:50:39.039 --> 01:50:41.199
<v Speaker 2>offered his you know, He's like, hey man, I'll do it,

1830
01:50:41.560 --> 01:50:43.920
<v Speaker 2>and so Jose and I gave him that. You know,

1831
01:50:44.479 --> 01:50:47.279
<v Speaker 2>we we brought him in. It's been a lot of fun. Uh.

1832
01:50:47.439 --> 01:50:51.239
<v Speaker 2>So he's he's the producer and uh and we just

1833
01:50:51.319 --> 01:50:55.640
<v Speaker 2>kind of try and bring sort of levity to the

1834
01:50:55.680 --> 01:50:58.399
<v Speaker 2>situation in a way. We make it a more casual thing.

1835
01:50:58.439 --> 01:51:05.000
<v Speaker 2>I think it's very important to to decompress, but with

1836
01:51:05.640 --> 01:51:09.119
<v Speaker 2>people that you are comfortable with, where you can kind of, like,

1837
01:51:10.199 --> 01:51:14.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, make it a more enjoyable, laughable you know

1838
01:51:14.279 --> 01:51:16.479
<v Speaker 2>you can. It brings me back down to earth after

1839
01:51:16.520 --> 01:51:20.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm sitting there for the by myself for twelve hours,

1840
01:51:20.840 --> 01:51:24.199
<v Speaker 2>like reading the most disturbing details that you could imagine.

1841
01:51:24.319 --> 01:51:26.760
<v Speaker 2>I kind of need that outlet. So that's that's nice

1842
01:51:27.640 --> 01:51:30.800
<v Speaker 2>to have. Definitely. But and Jose Gallison's my co host

1843
01:51:30.840 --> 01:51:32.680
<v Speaker 2>of from Noway Jose, I love him to death. He's

1844
01:51:32.680 --> 01:51:36.680
<v Speaker 2>my brother and h and beyond that. Thank you again, guys. Honestly,

1845
01:51:36.720 --> 01:51:37.560
<v Speaker 2>I can't thank you enough.

1846
01:51:38.960 --> 01:51:43.279
<v Speaker 3>I appreciate it real quick, U Tyrone. You want to plug,

1847
01:51:43.399 --> 01:51:44.640
<v Speaker 3>you want to let everybody know what's up?

1848
01:51:45.159 --> 01:51:45.359
<v Speaker 1>Sure?

1849
01:51:45.520 --> 01:51:46.600
<v Speaker 6>Sure, thank you appreciate that.

1850
01:51:46.680 --> 01:51:48.920
<v Speaker 5>Well. Everything you can find about me is on my website,

1851
01:51:49.000 --> 01:51:51.720
<v Speaker 5>Rebirth Oftheword dot com. I'm a bestseller journey through the

1852
01:51:51.760 --> 01:51:54.039
<v Speaker 5>origins of history that can be found on Amazon. I

1853
01:51:54.159 --> 01:51:56.439
<v Speaker 5>do YouTube and all that stuff, but everything that you

1854
01:51:56.479 --> 01:51:58.800
<v Speaker 5>want to know about me can be found on my website.

1855
01:51:59.119 --> 01:52:02.199
<v Speaker 5>It's a blog, of course, but I take little snippets

1856
01:52:02.239 --> 01:52:03.439
<v Speaker 5>of what I've learned and I put it in a

1857
01:52:03.479 --> 01:52:05.560
<v Speaker 5>little blocked and I go take that and put it

1858
01:52:05.600 --> 01:52:08.520
<v Speaker 5>into my YouTube channel and Spotify and all that other stuff.

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01:52:08.560 --> 01:52:10.359
<v Speaker 6>So yeah, I appreciate it, Nick for let me come

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<v Speaker 6>here again. Man. Sorry I was late.

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<v Speaker 5>Man, I'm telling you, I'm not gonna let that happen again.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm definitely gonna be on it this time. You know

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<v Speaker 5>that that happened.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't like that.

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<v Speaker 5>I was in the military, man. I hate it be

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<v Speaker 5>in late b bro.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, I was thinking about that.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, I think, now on when I make

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<v Speaker 4>like the link to send out to everybody else, specify

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<v Speaker 4>the time in it so then nobody gets confused. You

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<v Speaker 4>know what I'm saying, because it has happened to other

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<v Speaker 4>people besides you. It's happened to Julian and other people.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's quite all right.

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<v Speaker 3>Man. I'm glad you made it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>I really do appreciate it. I really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 5>You. I learned so much just listening to you guys

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<v Speaker 5>and sharing stuff. You know, Austin, you did great man,

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<v Speaker 5>Because I'm telling you, I'm gonna go back and read

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<v Speaker 5>that Norse mythology book just because of what you said.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna grab a couple of other ones that I

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<v Speaker 5>have in the in the other room, and I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 5>be on it, Like, why don't rits baby?

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<v Speaker 2>Awesome, man, I'm gonna buy that book now that you

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<v Speaker 2>showed me too. What was the author of that book?

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<v Speaker 5>It's just a it's not necessarily one book I think

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<v Speaker 5>you can get. I think it's a collection. But it's

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<v Speaker 5>by Jake Jackson, JK. E. Jackson. He has a whole

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<v Speaker 5>bunch of them, bro, I mean, like mythologies from everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 5>This is not even half of it right here, or

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<v Speaker 5>a quarter of it or anything. It's like it's like

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<v Speaker 5>a stack of them.

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<v Speaker 6>Bro.

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<v Speaker 5>The only reason why I pulled this one out was

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<v Speaker 5>because of course it was part of the Norse mythology, right.

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<v Speaker 4>That's awesome, dude, Thank you Agavin, thank you. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 4>appreciate it. I'm glad you made it, man, unless be

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<v Speaker 4>not least Lisa, what.

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<v Speaker 3>Is going on?

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you Austin.

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<v Speaker 7>That was an amazing, very thorough, very in depth discussion

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<v Speaker 7>of Delphi and covered everything almost from the beginning, the intricacies, everything,

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01:53:48.640 --> 01:53:53.840
<v Speaker 7>court suspects, all kinds of little intricate details that I

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<v Speaker 7>had heard literally from here and there whatever, you synthesized

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<v Speaker 7>it all in one And I'm really really proud of

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<v Speaker 7>this episode because if you want to know everything there

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<v Speaker 7>is to know about Delfy, listen to this episode because

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<v Speaker 7>you I said all.

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<v Speaker 1>Together in a review like literally, that mean that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I feel very honored and privileged to have

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<v Speaker 1>been on this episode with you presenting it the way

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<v Speaker 1>that you did as much. I love thes that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Nick has enabled all of us to have at tour,

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<v Speaker 1>and so very very honored, blessed to be a part

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<v Speaker 1>of it and to be a part of the discussion.

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<v Speaker 1>And the only thing I like to plug is a

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<v Speaker 1>cult research institute dot org.

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<v Speaker 4>You appreciate it, and again, thank you all. I mean

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<v Speaker 4>that was a long one too. I appreciate all your

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<v Speaker 4>time and thank you everybody in the chat. There was

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of people in the chat that was here

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<v Speaker 4>from the beginning to the end. I mean that was

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<v Speaker 4>along with there was a whole bunch of new people.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what's up. Thank you, and you all had great

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<v Speaker 4>stuff to head too.

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<v Speaker 1>So the chat, sorry, the chat, the new people. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>y'all because y'all brought so much to the table and Tyrone.

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<v Speaker 1>That's also some of the things that I love is

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<v Speaker 1>that you pull up the images on the screen because

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<v Speaker 1>it gets visual, and then all of the books. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 6>Sorry, yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 4>It was definitely awesome, and thank you for the new

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<v Speaker 4>people jumping on and again you can check our stuff

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<v Speaker 4>out also on a bit shoot, Rumble and on audio podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>I will say that the audio will have more episodes

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<v Speaker 4>than what you see on YouTube because I won't censor

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<v Speaker 4>the show, but I just won't put it on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 4>So if you want to check it out, there will

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<v Speaker 4>be more stuff on the audio obviously, But again, thank

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<v Speaker 4>you all and Austin amazing work. And until the next one,

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<v Speaker 4>everybody be well later
