WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:01.600 Today, I want to tell you about a journey that 2 00:00:01.600 --> 00:00:03.879 I've been on for most of my life. Ever since 3 00:00:03.919 --> 00:00:05.799 I was a kid, I've heard tales of bigfoot and 4 00:00:05.839 --> 00:00:08.320 wild men while spending time with my friends and family. 5 00:00:09.039 --> 00:00:11.439 As I grew older and read more about the paranormal, 6 00:00:11.599 --> 00:00:14.679 my interest in encryptids and other things strange only deepened. 7 00:00:15.240 --> 00:00:17.160 That's why I'm so excited to share with you what 8 00:00:17.199 --> 00:00:21.640 I've personally become involved with the Untold Radio Network. The 9 00:00:21.719 --> 00:00:25.280 Untold Radio Network is a live streaming podcast network that 10 00:00:25.359 --> 00:00:29.359 airs a new show every day across all podcast platforms, YouTube, 11 00:00:29.359 --> 00:00:32.119 and more. 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It's free to subscribe. 21 00:01:00.679 --> 00:01:04.400 So what are you waiting for visit www dot untold 22 00:01:04.519 --> 00:01:06.560 radionetwork dot com today. 23 00:01:06.760 --> 00:01:09.680 Now, what are your reporting? I got a screen going 24 00:01:09.719 --> 00:01:12.120 on here. Something just kid with my dog, something to 25 00:01:12.200 --> 00:01:15.280 kill your dog? My dog. We're flying through there over 26 00:01:15.319 --> 00:01:20.079 the tree. I don't know how it did it? Okay, Damn, 27 00:01:20.159 --> 00:01:22.640 I'm really confused. All I saw was my dog coming 28 00:01:22.680 --> 00:01:24.480 over the fence, and name was dead once you hit 29 00:01:24.519 --> 00:01:26.560 the ground. I didn't see any cars. All I saw 30 00:01:26.680 --> 00:01:45.120 was my dog coming over the fence. Mad, What are 31 00:01:45.120 --> 00:01:49.959 you reporting? We got some wonder or something crawling around 32 00:01:50.040 --> 00:01:58.640 out here? Did you see what it was? It was 33 00:01:59.359 --> 00:02:01.439 enough out here looking them do the window now and 34 00:02:01.480 --> 00:02:03.120 I don't need anything. I don't want to go out 35 00:02:03.159 --> 00:02:11.800 toiight just fight. Hello, hit the buddy out here? What 36 00:02:12.000 --> 00:02:14.039 quent on out there's thought of a bitch of about 37 00:02:14.159 --> 00:02:17.199 text nine? I don't know. Easy am out there? Yeah, 38 00:02:17.240 --> 00:02:19.400 I'm walking right Eddy, all right? 39 00:02:19.439 --> 00:02:21.319 Folks want to welcome our guests to the show. It 40 00:02:21.479 --> 00:02:23.879 is Tyler and flat Rock. Welcome to the show, fellas, 41 00:02:24.639 --> 00:02:27.280 Thanks for having us. I am glad to have you. 42 00:02:27.319 --> 00:02:28.439 Flat Rock. It's been a minute. 43 00:02:28.479 --> 00:02:30.199 I saw you three or four years ago up in 44 00:02:30.240 --> 00:02:34.360 Tennessee at the Manimal Research squatch out. It was good 45 00:02:34.360 --> 00:02:35.960 to hang out with you guys. Had a good time 46 00:02:36.039 --> 00:02:38.400 up there. Can't wait to get into what's been going 47 00:02:38.439 --> 00:02:39.919 on with your research and your experiences. 48 00:02:39.919 --> 00:02:42.520 But let's start with Tyler. I like to start in the. 49 00:02:42.520 --> 00:02:46.680 Same place with most people. Everybody has something that got 50 00:02:46.759 --> 00:02:49.199 them interested in this subject. What was it for you 51 00:02:49.240 --> 00:02:52.479 that got you interested in the subject of bigfoot sasquatch? 52 00:02:52.520 --> 00:02:54.319 To begin with? All right? 53 00:02:54.439 --> 00:02:56.840 So it started when I was a teenager, used to 54 00:02:56.840 --> 00:03:02.120 deer hunting up South Alabama, Southeast Alabama, actually in hunting 55 00:03:02.120 --> 00:03:03.479 clubs over the years. 56 00:03:03.639 --> 00:03:04.479 Long story short. 57 00:03:04.560 --> 00:03:06.879 We were up there for a weekend and I was 58 00:03:06.919 --> 00:03:08.680 coming out of the woods making my way out of 59 00:03:08.680 --> 00:03:12.280 my tree stand, and I could hear pretty much something 60 00:03:12.360 --> 00:03:14.240 kind of catty corner of me, like coming up out 61 00:03:14.240 --> 00:03:16.800 of the creek, like about to meet me in this 62 00:03:16.840 --> 00:03:19.680 little bitty dim road that I'm walking in. It's just 63 00:03:19.719 --> 00:03:22.199 an old dem road that goes through some planted pines 64 00:03:22.199 --> 00:03:25.159 and it goes into a sage grass field. I stepped 65 00:03:25.159 --> 00:03:27.960 out of the pines into that field. It maybe five 66 00:03:28.000 --> 00:03:30.719 steps ten steps from me. This thing yelled at me 67 00:03:30.800 --> 00:03:33.280 and it smacked me in the face. I could just 68 00:03:33.400 --> 00:03:36.439 feel it just overcome my whole body, man, and it 69 00:03:36.560 --> 00:03:41.120 was unlike nothing I've ever experienced. And I used to 70 00:03:41.159 --> 00:03:43.840 not believe in this stuff. I used to see the 71 00:03:43.840 --> 00:03:46.599 stuff on TV when I was a kid History Channel 72 00:03:46.639 --> 00:03:48.599 and all that. I was like, I come on, I 73 00:03:48.599 --> 00:03:51.879 grew up deer hunting, turkey hunting, fishing, camping. If there 74 00:03:51.919 --> 00:03:53.919 was something out here, I'd have done seen it by now, 75 00:03:54.560 --> 00:03:57.080 and I'd be damned if that weekend it didn't happen. 76 00:03:57.599 --> 00:03:59.680 That's what put me on the path I am now. 77 00:04:00.120 --> 00:04:02.000 It definitely does one or two things when you have 78 00:04:02.039 --> 00:04:04.120 an experience like that. It either sends you down the 79 00:04:04.199 --> 00:04:06.800 rabbit hole and you want to know any and everything 80 00:04:06.840 --> 00:04:08.960 there is to know about these things, or it sends 81 00:04:08.960 --> 00:04:12.120 you in the opposite direction of holy shit, I don't 82 00:04:12.159 --> 00:04:14.199 know what that was. I don't care what that was. 83 00:04:14.240 --> 00:04:16.720 I'm done with it. Clearly you went the route of 84 00:04:17.319 --> 00:04:19.920 going down the rabbit hole. Did that start for you 85 00:04:20.000 --> 00:04:22.800 immediately after that experience, and you go into looking at 86 00:04:22.800 --> 00:04:24.839 what these creatures are and you want to know. 87 00:04:24.800 --> 00:04:26.439 More about them? Or did it take a while. 88 00:04:26.519 --> 00:04:29.360 Was there a progression for you after your experience and 89 00:04:29.399 --> 00:04:32.199 then getting into actually researching and figuring out what these 90 00:04:32.199 --> 00:04:32.600 things are. 91 00:04:33.519 --> 00:04:36.519 Yeah, it took me a little bit because after what happened, 92 00:04:36.600 --> 00:04:38.279 it took me a little while to be able to 93 00:04:38.319 --> 00:04:42.240 wrap my brain around it. I was pretty uncomfortable because, 94 00:04:42.439 --> 00:04:44.839 like I said, growing up hunting and fishing, I've walked 95 00:04:44.839 --> 00:04:46.920 to my tree standing in the dark and come out 96 00:04:47.319 --> 00:04:49.759 in the dark no light because it's like second nature. 97 00:04:49.800 --> 00:04:52.160 And now I just I don't have that ability anymore. 98 00:04:52.199 --> 00:04:55.759 Unfortunately it was stripped away from me. But yeah, it 99 00:04:55.759 --> 00:04:57.720 took me a handful of years to get back to 100 00:04:57.759 --> 00:05:00.399 going in the woods. I put hunting down for a 101 00:05:00.399 --> 00:05:04.399 little while and actually started picking up competitive bowling, and 102 00:05:04.439 --> 00:05:07.279 that was my way to help me deal with it 103 00:05:07.279 --> 00:05:09.079 a little bit. In the Yeah, I pretty much put 104 00:05:09.199 --> 00:05:12.040 deer hunting down for a handful of years, and I 105 00:05:12.160 --> 00:05:14.199 eventually got to where I was comfortable to go back 106 00:05:14.240 --> 00:05:16.399 in the woods. And then I got to where I 107 00:05:16.439 --> 00:05:19.319 wanted to know more. So I started just doing my 108 00:05:19.360 --> 00:05:23.040 own thing, going out in the woods and just seeing 109 00:05:23.079 --> 00:05:26.240 what happens. And sometimes things have happened and it's insane, 110 00:05:26.319 --> 00:05:28.839 and there's other times where not so much. 111 00:05:29.199 --> 00:05:31.600 Let's talk a little bit about the sound that you heard, 112 00:05:31.639 --> 00:05:34.600 the screen that you heard. Was it just the vocalization 113 00:05:34.839 --> 00:05:38.000 or did you actually see this creature when it was vocalizing. 114 00:05:38.120 --> 00:05:40.120 Take us back and talk a little bit more about 115 00:05:40.399 --> 00:05:42.639 exactly what you experienced it. I know it's very difficult 116 00:05:42.680 --> 00:05:46.480 because I've had experiences with vocalizations and it's often hard 117 00:05:46.480 --> 00:05:49.720 to put it into words what you heard and felt. 118 00:05:50.000 --> 00:05:51.639 But do the best you can for is if you 119 00:05:51.680 --> 00:05:53.279 would take us back there and do the best you 120 00:05:53.319 --> 00:05:55.720 can as far as talking a little bit more about 121 00:05:55.759 --> 00:05:58.600 what you heard and if you saw anything what you saw. 122 00:05:59.439 --> 00:06:03.360 Okay, if this makes any sense to me, it feels 123 00:06:03.399 --> 00:06:06.120 like I felt it before I could hear it. But 124 00:06:06.240 --> 00:06:11.720 it started extremely low and worked itself up to extremely high, 125 00:06:11.759 --> 00:06:15.959 and it was deafening, trying to think like a bull 126 00:06:16.079 --> 00:06:17.600 and a tiger. 127 00:06:17.839 --> 00:06:18.240 I don't know. 128 00:06:18.319 --> 00:06:22.639 It sounded terrifying, That's all I can really say. It 129 00:06:22.680 --> 00:06:26.040 was something that is not normal. Because I know we've 130 00:06:26.040 --> 00:06:29.519 got some cats in the South down here, and I've 131 00:06:29.519 --> 00:06:33.240 heard the sounds they make coyotes. This is not either 132 00:06:33.279 --> 00:06:35.680 of them. This was something else. I still hear it 133 00:06:35.720 --> 00:06:36.600 in my sleep at night. 134 00:06:37.399 --> 00:06:39.040 I definitely am right there with you. It's one of 135 00:06:39.040 --> 00:06:41.439 the first things that started happening here on our property 136 00:06:41.800 --> 00:06:45.360 probably four years ago. Was the vocalizations. I've heard them 137 00:06:45.759 --> 00:06:48.480 in other places now and it's something that sticks with you. 138 00:06:48.519 --> 00:06:52.360 It's very difficult to put into words, like I said earlier, 139 00:06:52.560 --> 00:06:56.519 what you hear, because it's unlike anything you've ever heard before. 140 00:06:56.560 --> 00:06:59.279 And I know it's frustrating for people that are listening 141 00:06:59.279 --> 00:07:01.120 to go man, I want to know more about the 142 00:07:01.120 --> 00:07:04.639 sounds because I've never heard that, but it's almost impossible 143 00:07:04.680 --> 00:07:07.800 to describe. I mean, for me, we have a reference 144 00:07:07.839 --> 00:07:11.040 point in certain cases like the Ohio how the map 145 00:07:11.079 --> 00:07:14.759 moneymaker Ohio how is the closest thing that I used 146 00:07:14.759 --> 00:07:17.560 to describe what we heard initially here on the property, 147 00:07:18.600 --> 00:07:21.639 But there's still no way to do it justice. For 148 00:07:22.319 --> 00:07:26.319 in the moment, how loud it wasn't how like you said, 149 00:07:26.680 --> 00:07:29.920 you felt it almost before you heard it, and that's 150 00:07:30.000 --> 00:07:30.680 very similar. 151 00:07:30.759 --> 00:07:32.879 So let's kick it over the flat rock. 152 00:07:32.959 --> 00:07:37.079 The man with the many experiences over the many years 153 00:07:37.079 --> 00:07:38.920 that you've been doing this, let's talk a little bit 154 00:07:38.920 --> 00:07:41.560 about what got you interested in the subject of bigfoot. 155 00:07:41.600 --> 00:07:45.720 To begin with, what got me interested was actually coming across. 156 00:07:45.800 --> 00:07:48.639 For one, right off the bat, we had normal's I 157 00:07:48.680 --> 00:07:52.079 ain't going on with we didn't contribute to the big boot, 158 00:07:52.240 --> 00:07:56.160 the bang and the howl and all f w at all. 159 00:07:56.240 --> 00:07:59.800 But I was fitting on my mom's back, ohor figure 160 00:07:59.879 --> 00:08:04.079 ut lesten to mister Bobby bang on his Coatjack. I 161 00:08:04.160 --> 00:08:06.480 look over to my left and here's one big old 162 00:08:06.519 --> 00:08:09.720 black thing then right there. Didn't know what it was 163 00:08:09.759 --> 00:08:13.079 at per and then ye know, it turned towards me. 164 00:08:13.680 --> 00:08:16.319 I knew right down what it was. That's what got 165 00:08:16.360 --> 00:08:20.439 me interested. I've been recording and felm and everything, but 166 00:08:20.560 --> 00:08:23.600 that's what got me interested. The next thing, you know, 167 00:08:24.319 --> 00:08:27.680 I was working over here in the house. I've seen 168 00:08:27.720 --> 00:08:30.839 a light between mine and my mother's house. I thought 169 00:08:31.279 --> 00:08:33.600 it was a bear or something, so I put a 170 00:08:33.600 --> 00:08:36.519 camera here in the window because if I could see 171 00:08:36.519 --> 00:08:39.000 it blink, that's when I knew it wasn't that somebody 172 00:08:39.039 --> 00:08:41.159 there in the middle of the light. But it also 173 00:08:41.440 --> 00:08:44.480 shifted side to side. That's what it kept on doing 174 00:08:44.960 --> 00:08:48.480 until it got this tree. Found out later that was 175 00:08:48.519 --> 00:08:50.840 a actual big foot and not a bear that I 176 00:08:50.919 --> 00:08:54.480 thought it was, But I filmed it, called it. But 177 00:08:55.000 --> 00:08:59.440 the recordings I get out here, it's just crazy. It 178 00:08:59.559 --> 00:09:04.879 is crazy. So eventually matter going in these conferdences I 179 00:09:04.960 --> 00:09:08.879 met a couple of buddies who introduced me to Tyler. 180 00:09:09.360 --> 00:09:12.039 One day, Tyler, come over here to check it out 181 00:09:12.080 --> 00:09:14.759 till they come up here and camp. We sit around, 182 00:09:14.919 --> 00:09:18.799 talk a little bit. He was about leave out out 183 00:09:18.840 --> 00:09:20.960 there on the port. He donet go went down the 184 00:09:21.080 --> 00:09:24.000 porch and I look over in the woodline. There two 185 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:29.000 eyes looking directly at her. I called Tyler back. I said, Tyler, 186 00:09:29.679 --> 00:09:31.720 is that all shining through the wood right there? And 187 00:09:31.840 --> 00:09:35.639 he looking at him He sees it. So I'm telling him, 188 00:09:35.639 --> 00:09:37.840 go get a camera, Tyler, you want to take it 189 00:09:37.879 --> 00:09:38.559 from here? Buddy. 190 00:09:38.919 --> 00:09:40.679 We were like I said, he was standing out there, 191 00:09:40.720 --> 00:09:43.879 and so I walked to the vehicle to go get 192 00:09:43.919 --> 00:09:48.080 the camera. So as I'm walking, the eyeballs start moving. 193 00:09:48.399 --> 00:09:52.080 As I'm going to the car, I could see these 194 00:09:52.120 --> 00:09:53.519 eyeballs pretty. 195 00:09:53.320 --> 00:09:54.639 Much following me all the way. 196 00:09:55.080 --> 00:09:58.240 Get in line with my vehicle, get the camera, then 197 00:09:58.320 --> 00:10:00.639 walk back. They're just following me again all the way 198 00:10:00.679 --> 00:10:03.600 back to where I was standing. And at first I 199 00:10:03.639 --> 00:10:06.360 thought it was the moon because of the color, because 200 00:10:06.360 --> 00:10:08.279 I just see one and I was like, is that 201 00:10:08.360 --> 00:10:09.279 the moon coming up? 202 00:10:09.600 --> 00:10:10.279 And he was like no. 203 00:10:10.519 --> 00:10:12.480 Then I seen the other one. That's what I was like, 204 00:10:12.559 --> 00:10:14.240 wait a minute, his nuts, man. 205 00:10:14.759 --> 00:10:18.559 I've been in biting rechurcher over here every since. Every 206 00:10:18.639 --> 00:10:21.840 time it started to get active, I get thurt and 207 00:10:21.919 --> 00:10:24.200 researchers come over here and let him do the thing. 208 00:10:24.240 --> 00:10:26.639 But Tyler, he hit the main researcher in this area 209 00:10:26.840 --> 00:10:30.759 on my property, getting out there, camping, going out there, 210 00:10:31.480 --> 00:10:33.279 not really going to look for him. 211 00:10:33.559 --> 00:10:35.519 We don't have to, they're there. 212 00:10:36.000 --> 00:10:38.879 I want to go back to your first experience when 213 00:10:38.879 --> 00:10:41.399 you were a kid. Hey, how old were you when 214 00:10:41.440 --> 00:10:44.159 you had that experience? And was bigfoot something on your 215 00:10:44.279 --> 00:10:47.519 radar at that time? I know you didn't immediately think that, 216 00:10:48.440 --> 00:10:50.480 or maybe you did immediately think what it was. But 217 00:10:50.919 --> 00:10:53.080 was it something that was discussed in the area, Because 218 00:10:53.120 --> 00:10:54.840 I know as a kid, I grew up in rural 219 00:10:54.919 --> 00:10:58.240 North Georgia and bigfoot was something that people talked about. 220 00:10:58.759 --> 00:11:01.320 They didn't say bigfoot or south Squatch. They said wild men, 221 00:11:01.440 --> 00:11:05.240 hairy men. It was different wording that Bigfoot in Sasquatch 222 00:11:05.440 --> 00:11:08.679 wasn't really in the nomenclature in that area for that time. 223 00:11:09.039 --> 00:11:12.120 But was that something that your family or you had 224 00:11:12.159 --> 00:11:14.679 discussed with other people? Was bigfoot on your radar when 225 00:11:14.720 --> 00:11:15.200 you saw this. 226 00:11:15.200 --> 00:11:19.440 Thing it what thick year if ago. That's when my 227 00:11:19.600 --> 00:11:22.320 birth came on. But before that, no, I never believed 228 00:11:22.320 --> 00:11:25.480 it existed, but never come across our mind that big 229 00:11:25.519 --> 00:11:26.679 book was really real. 230 00:11:27.480 --> 00:11:30.799 You mentioned recordings earlier and some of the experiences that 231 00:11:30.840 --> 00:11:33.919 you guys have had out in your research area. Let's 232 00:11:34.000 --> 00:11:38.120 go through your experiences Class A sightings. How many times 233 00:11:38.159 --> 00:11:40.279 you've seen these things. Let's talk about what you saw. 234 00:11:40.559 --> 00:11:43.840 Then let's go into what you're recording, what you've heard 235 00:11:43.919 --> 00:11:46.720 in some of the vocalizations and other experiences that you're having. 236 00:11:47.159 --> 00:11:49.440 Now, I have had many shorties. I've had the two 237 00:11:49.480 --> 00:11:52.279 family shoty two full of families, the mother and the 238 00:11:52.360 --> 00:11:58.399 kids audio. While I got so much audio, it's just unreal. 239 00:11:58.759 --> 00:12:05.519 I got the classic owl, the growl, yell, word, languide, 240 00:12:06.279 --> 00:12:09.360 eighth grade, all the things you can think of. A 241 00:12:09.480 --> 00:12:12.159 big boots does out and would I got it. 242 00:12:12.559 --> 00:12:14.360 All right, I'm gonna play you a few clips that 243 00:12:14.440 --> 00:12:16.840 flat Rock sent over. They're a little longer than what 244 00:12:16.879 --> 00:12:19.200 I'd usually include, but I think they're worth hearing all 245 00:12:19.240 --> 00:12:22.159 the way through. Just listen with an open ear. Maybe 246 00:12:22.200 --> 00:12:26.039 you'll notice something interesting, something subtle that stands out. Let's 247 00:12:26.120 --> 00:14:59.720 check it out. 248 00:13:47.320 --> 00:14:53.399 Actor. Thank you. 249 00:14:30.720 --> 00:14:34.399 Remember that uh which she was telling us that story 250 00:14:35.519 --> 00:14:37.840 about the one he'ple the wind out. 251 00:14:39.200 --> 00:14:41.840 That that was went down a shotgun. 252 00:14:42.080 --> 00:14:44.120 Yeah, that's why I want to I want to talk. 253 00:14:43.960 --> 00:14:44.480 To that man. 254 00:14:45.440 --> 00:14:49.000 He lives right now, streak and he didn't wait. So 255 00:14:49.799 --> 00:15:02.200 that rock my new one. There is there is and then. 256 00:15:04.159 --> 00:15:07.440 And then that WoT that word, and then. 257 00:15:07.559 --> 00:15:12.000 Then I'll stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see 258 00:15:12.000 --> 00:15:14.559 when right back after these messages. 259 00:15:19.799 --> 00:15:23.120 And all right, and. 260 00:15:25.279 --> 00:15:25.960 Then then. 261 00:15:32.759 --> 00:15:36.639 That's gone, and then and then. 262 00:15:38.320 --> 00:15:50.039 And then then that'll pe And I didn't know one. 263 00:15:56.039 --> 00:15:57.480 I find by my start. 264 00:15:59.799 --> 00:16:48.559 One two. 265 00:18:22.480 --> 00:20:01.720 Days I got it words killing it K nine. One 266 00:20:01.839 --> 00:20:05.519 experience I've had with them throwing rock. They hit my 267 00:20:05.640 --> 00:20:07.960 dog in the back leg with a rock before we 268 00:20:08.039 --> 00:20:12.039 knew they existed. It hurt him pretty bad. We've had 269 00:20:12.119 --> 00:20:15.279 experiences where they actually you killed one my brother's dog. 270 00:20:15.720 --> 00:20:20.000 They did that. Just listening to the screams and the 271 00:20:20.119 --> 00:20:24.119 growling out there, it's amazing when they do what they do, 272 00:20:24.519 --> 00:20:26.920 it does go right through you. I built me on 273 00:20:27.039 --> 00:20:31.519 my own listening of wifes out here to where I 274 00:20:31.640 --> 00:20:36.599 could hear everything outside all night long from right here 275 00:20:36.640 --> 00:20:39.640 in my living room. That's the way I'm able to 276 00:20:39.759 --> 00:20:43.519 record when I don't know they're out there and I 277 00:20:43.720 --> 00:20:47.839 pick up what they're doing. But that's basically what I do, Brian. 278 00:20:48.799 --> 00:20:52.400 I don't consider it research because I don't consider myself 279 00:20:52.480 --> 00:20:57.000 a researcher or investigator. I just do what a normal 280 00:20:57.079 --> 00:21:00.200 person would do when he got these things on your properties. Here, 281 00:21:00.240 --> 00:21:03.079 you did death, and I think that's actually the best 282 00:21:03.160 --> 00:21:05.319 way to go about it. Every time I've went out 283 00:21:05.440 --> 00:21:08.279 looking for these things, with a couple of exceptions, I 284 00:21:08.400 --> 00:21:11.240 don't go out searching. I don't go out with a 285 00:21:11.319 --> 00:21:13.680 ton of equipment. I've been out with people who have 286 00:21:13.799 --> 00:21:15.839 a ton of equipment, but I don't personally do that. 287 00:21:16.039 --> 00:21:19.240 It's usually just something to collect audio and maybe my 288 00:21:19.400 --> 00:21:22.119 iPhone or something. But I go out and just do 289 00:21:22.240 --> 00:21:25.079 what you normally do in the woods. It took me 290 00:21:25.200 --> 00:21:27.400 until last year to be able to have an experience 291 00:21:27.440 --> 00:21:29.599 where I got to see these things. I had to 292 00:21:29.640 --> 00:21:32.359 go to the Pacific Northwest to make it happen, because 293 00:21:32.359 --> 00:21:35.279 I've experienced things of cast foot prants on our property here. 294 00:21:35.400 --> 00:21:38.799 I have found tree structures, but I've never had a 295 00:21:38.880 --> 00:21:42.000 sighting here on the property. Let's go back you mentioned 296 00:21:42.039 --> 00:21:43.920 this earlier. You just flew by this. 297 00:21:44.440 --> 00:21:46.680 We've got to go back and talk about this family 298 00:21:46.799 --> 00:21:49.359 that you witnessed. Go back and talk a little bit 299 00:21:49.400 --> 00:21:51.920 about these experiences. Tell us where you were, what you 300 00:21:52.000 --> 00:21:53.440 were doing, and tell us what you saw. 301 00:21:54.240 --> 00:21:57.720 All right. The bird family, I was saying, was out 302 00:21:57.759 --> 00:22:02.839 in my back door. Mama, Juve and Alem and three 303 00:22:02.920 --> 00:22:06.720 little kids, and they were just staring my way. I 304 00:22:06.799 --> 00:22:09.480 snapped a picture of them. I'll send it to you 305 00:22:09.559 --> 00:22:11.640 if you want. You actually see it on my Facebook 306 00:22:11.680 --> 00:22:14.240 page as well, but I'll send it to you. Other family, 307 00:22:14.319 --> 00:22:17.279 I say, I was sitting on my mom's back and forth. 308 00:22:17.839 --> 00:22:20.240 I set my camera out and I faced it toward 309 00:22:20.319 --> 00:22:22.799 this nesting area that we always see them in or 310 00:22:22.920 --> 00:22:25.839 blind whichever one you people want to call it. But 311 00:22:26.000 --> 00:22:30.000 I saw femino where and I seen them bunched up. 312 00:22:30.559 --> 00:22:33.960 I sammed in on them. I caught the juvenile looked 313 00:22:34.039 --> 00:22:38.160 like three little kids in there and a mama. They said, 314 00:22:38.359 --> 00:22:41.240 what happened? I just took a picture of one. Come 315 00:22:41.359 --> 00:22:44.559 back in the hall. Then the other family. I just 316 00:22:44.880 --> 00:22:47.359 fimmed them for a couple of minutes, walk back in 317 00:22:47.400 --> 00:22:51.640 the aisle. They what ended up avenue because once you 318 00:22:51.759 --> 00:22:53.799 see them all the time and hear them all the time, 319 00:22:54.400 --> 00:22:57.119 it's really no big thing anymore. Yeah, you're scared to 320 00:22:57.279 --> 00:22:59.839 dance of them, but you get what you want to 321 00:22:59.839 --> 00:23:03.319 get yet and move on. I mean one I'm wanting 322 00:23:03.400 --> 00:23:06.519 to do now that I know what research is all about, 323 00:23:07.599 --> 00:23:09.920 because I didn't know what research it was about at 324 00:23:10.000 --> 00:23:12.960 that time, But now that I do, we're gonna get 325 00:23:13.319 --> 00:23:16.200 fed up here. We got some people coming Tyler for 326 00:23:16.240 --> 00:23:19.440 one of them. We're gonna get these creatures out and 327 00:23:19.559 --> 00:23:24.599 open on them on thermal with their one We're gonna 328 00:23:24.640 --> 00:23:27.640 present it out to the world. It's gonna be thermal 329 00:23:28.359 --> 00:23:31.039 if anything. Yeah, both like could go be thermal. Yep. 330 00:23:31.599 --> 00:23:35.920 So for those of us who haven't had the opportunity 331 00:23:36.039 --> 00:23:39.079 to see them as much as you do, talk a 332 00:23:39.119 --> 00:23:43.039 little bit about what you're seeing physically. You're describing a male, 333 00:23:43.160 --> 00:23:46.640 a female, and smaller individuals. What are you seeing as 334 00:23:46.680 --> 00:23:50.440 far as size, hair color, as much as a con 335 00:23:50.480 --> 00:23:51.720 description as you can give us. 336 00:23:52.480 --> 00:23:55.200 All Right, I've only feund one brown one here, Okay, 337 00:23:55.559 --> 00:23:58.720 I mentioned that on quite a few podcasts by the 338 00:23:58.960 --> 00:24:02.000 brown one followed my mom around a lot. I got 339 00:24:02.119 --> 00:24:05.440 him on footage a few times after I got hold 340 00:24:05.440 --> 00:24:07.839 of a game ward. A few weeks after that, Belyve, 341 00:24:07.880 --> 00:24:10.839 they come over here and eradicate him because we ain't 342 00:24:10.839 --> 00:24:13.400 never seen him again. But the other one all part 343 00:24:13.440 --> 00:24:16.759 of black. Some of them have gray faces, some of 344 00:24:16.839 --> 00:24:20.519 them have black faces, their whole body black. Very hard 345 00:24:20.599 --> 00:24:22.119 to see in the wood caause he just looked like 346 00:24:22.240 --> 00:24:25.200 shadows in the wood. The biggest one I seen was 347 00:24:25.279 --> 00:24:28.039 the first one I sank. He was easily ten foot 348 00:24:28.240 --> 00:24:32.880 easy ten foot. The last one I seen was between 349 00:24:33.000 --> 00:24:35.759 four and five foot tall. He just those juvenile one 350 00:24:35.960 --> 00:24:39.039 over in this little nestinary before we drove tractor through 351 00:24:39.079 --> 00:24:43.240 it in twenty twenty one. That was the last juvenile 352 00:24:43.279 --> 00:24:47.559 I think that one that was in my tree stand. 353 00:24:48.599 --> 00:24:52.079 He was twice my size. I got a comparison picture 354 00:24:52.400 --> 00:24:55.880 of me standing the same spot he was in. He 355 00:24:56.039 --> 00:24:59.480 was twice my size. The thickness is just crazy. I 356 00:24:59.599 --> 00:25:02.480 came to really described the thickness of them, cause he's 357 00:25:02.680 --> 00:25:07.559 just so big. Just the sizes I seen from very 358 00:25:07.680 --> 00:25:11.920 tall to baby size, which looked to be maybe a 359 00:25:12.039 --> 00:25:15.400 butt and a half two footing of four to five footer. 360 00:25:16.519 --> 00:25:19.640 But mostly I can't say they're females or male. Okay, 361 00:25:19.720 --> 00:25:22.759 cause I just ain't never seen the breast of one, 362 00:25:22.880 --> 00:25:26.000 but majority of them. The average size you hear is 363 00:25:26.000 --> 00:25:28.759 the seven to eight footer were the average sizes. 364 00:25:29.200 --> 00:25:31.160 We can't skim over that. You said there was a 365 00:25:31.240 --> 00:25:35.000 big foot in your dear stand. Tell us the story man, 366 00:25:35.079 --> 00:25:36.559 How did that come to beat? 367 00:25:36.599 --> 00:25:39.920 To see them on my Facebook page? You seme right 368 00:25:39.960 --> 00:25:44.759 there between them trees. A researcher from mid Tumpkin came 369 00:25:44.839 --> 00:25:47.480 over here. I took him over here in his block 370 00:25:47.519 --> 00:25:50.880 of wood. He was late when I had to go somewhere, 371 00:25:50.960 --> 00:25:53.440 so I rushed him into there. We didn't have time 372 00:25:53.519 --> 00:25:55.559 to really get his camera and all that set up 373 00:25:55.920 --> 00:25:59.319 me him and my dog Booth went back there. Boot 374 00:25:59.359 --> 00:26:01.799 kept fitting down on us, and one time he sit 375 00:26:01.920 --> 00:26:04.960 down on us. This guy said, did I hear something walk? 376 00:26:05.039 --> 00:26:08.720 I said no, so Boo ended up getting back up. 377 00:26:09.279 --> 00:26:12.799 Got about forty yards he said out again, Keith. With 378 00:26:13.000 --> 00:26:16.359 this researcher, he kept walking forward until he passed us three, 379 00:26:16.920 --> 00:26:19.000 and he looking over to his left and he just 380 00:26:19.119 --> 00:26:22.039 stopped in his tracks and backed up, and he said, 381 00:26:22.599 --> 00:26:24.160 is that what I think it is? 382 00:26:24.240 --> 00:26:24.400 Over? 383 00:26:24.599 --> 00:26:27.960 So I went up by three. He looked over and yeah, 384 00:26:28.039 --> 00:26:31.400 there was a big black one standing in the right there. 385 00:26:31.720 --> 00:26:35.039 I think he was squatty, but I'm just gonna say standing. 386 00:26:35.400 --> 00:26:38.519 It's the same thing that was the one that I 387 00:26:38.680 --> 00:26:41.319 ended up catching on my trail camera that was in 388 00:26:41.440 --> 00:26:43.880 my tree s down that night and Butch and my 389 00:26:43.960 --> 00:26:46.599 deer coming in. I ended up catching him on the 390 00:26:46.720 --> 00:26:50.599 trill camera the other time. This was before we knew 391 00:26:50.599 --> 00:26:53.240 they were big butts. I was over in my hunt 392 00:26:53.319 --> 00:26:56.640 now it was in a different area, this way a caning, 393 00:26:57.359 --> 00:26:59.960 and I'm sitting there. I hear knocked to my wrong 394 00:27:00.400 --> 00:27:03.519 to my three pacific knocks, knock, knocked. I just kept 395 00:27:03.559 --> 00:27:06.160 putting five, done it two or three times, and then 396 00:27:06.240 --> 00:27:10.519 next thing you know, I hear something you coming straight 397 00:27:10.599 --> 00:27:13.079 in front of me coming up this little ridge. I 398 00:27:13.240 --> 00:27:15.160 fair it was just go be a bear or a 399 00:27:15.880 --> 00:27:18.519 couple of deer coming up. It just sounded different. It 400 00:27:18.720 --> 00:27:21.400 was like stumping at this point. Like I said, I 401 00:27:21.480 --> 00:27:24.319