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<v Speaker 1>Hello. I'm Jack Smiley Jr.

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<v Speaker 2>From San Juan Gista, California.

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<v Speaker 1>I played golf at San Juan Oaks. Hi.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Thomas Dallas from Bradenton, Florida, and I play

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<v Speaker 2>at IMG Golf Course. This is Golf Smarter episode number

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<v Speaker 2>one one five Insider Baseball thread. I may or may

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<v Speaker 2>not have asked Charlie when we played Tiger if I

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<v Speaker 2>could give him the closer signal when he's sitting in

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<v Speaker 2>the box and see if he would come out and

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<v Speaker 2>put against his dad. And we beat him, but he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want to put his dad to shame on ESPN.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, you think about how amazing of a format,

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<v Speaker 2>like even what the Father Son PNC is. There's so

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<v Speaker 2>many of these type of events that Tgl's format and

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<v Speaker 2>the style of play could lend itself to. The shot

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<v Speaker 2>clock was fun like if you're in the stadium, everybody's chanting,

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<v Speaker 2>like in a basketball game when there was ten seconds left,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody's running around trying to get the crowd riled up.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels like the first he at the Ryder Cup

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<v Speaker 2>for almost two hours. I mean, you can be last.

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<v Speaker 2>There was no signs held up that says please be

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<v Speaker 2>quiet or we're t and off. When we played New York,

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<v Speaker 2>I swear they flew down Long Island into a fans

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<v Speaker 2>section and they had no problem bringing the Bethpage Black

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<v Speaker 2>noise to us at TGL. It riled our guys up

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<v Speaker 2>and made it so much fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Expanding the future of indoor golf, home simulators and TGL

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<v Speaker 1>with Ben Helmraff. This is Golf Smarter, sharing stories, tips

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<v Speaker 1>and insights from great golf minds to help you lower

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<v Speaker 1>your score and raise your golf IQ. Here's your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Fred Green. Welcome to the Golf Smarter Podcast. Ben.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, Fred, how's it going.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going great today, and this is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a fun conversation because we're talking about something that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of happened a while ago, but we're waiting fingers crossed

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<v Speaker 1>in great anticipation for another season of TG and that's

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<v Speaker 1>part of what we're going to talk about with you

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<v Speaker 1>today because you have an important role in the retail world.

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<v Speaker 1>To introduce yourself in that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so, I I work for PGA Tour Superstore, the

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<v Speaker 2>leading golf retailer. We are in almost thirty states and growing.

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<v Speaker 2>So for those not familiar with us, we are are

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<v Speaker 2>the kind of official retail partner of the PGA Tour.

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<v Speaker 2>So super excited that in that realm, I oversee our

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<v Speaker 2>hard goods, all things clubs, accessories, basically anything related to golf,

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<v Speaker 2>non apparel and footwear, and that includes a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the growth categories I think we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about, like simulation and you know, speaking of

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<v Speaker 2>TGL golf. So really excited and really excited to be

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<v Speaker 2>on today to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>What does it mean exactly that your official partner of

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<v Speaker 1>the PGA Tour.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so we have a licensee partnership with the tour.

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<v Speaker 2>So as you see on our our doors and on

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<v Speaker 2>everything we've we've got the PGA Tour name associated with us,

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<v Speaker 2>which really hope you know it. Ultimately it creates trust

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<v Speaker 2>for the customer. It showcases that were the primary spot

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<v Speaker 2>that the tour trust to carry any and all things

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<v Speaker 2>carried or played on tours. So that's what that's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of what I mean my term partnership.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I understand, Okay, which is pretty awesome to have

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<v Speaker 1>that association, but what does that How does that separate

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<v Speaker 1>you from like Worldwide Golf that has bought every retail

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<v Speaker 1>outlet of everything in golf all over the country. How

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<v Speaker 1>does it separate you as far as do you carry

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<v Speaker 1>products that are associated with a tour that you can't

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<v Speaker 1>find in other retailers.

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<v Speaker 2>Not necessarily we have something that are specific to us,

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<v Speaker 2>but we actually kind of stay out of the call

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<v Speaker 2>it for lack of a better word, owned band. We

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<v Speaker 2>want to carry what is played on tour. We want

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<v Speaker 2>the best product in the store. There are some things

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<v Speaker 2>that we carry that others don't for whatever reason. That

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<v Speaker 2>may be some of that actually being in some of

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<v Speaker 2>the simulation space some of the other areas. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>our big differentiator you're asking for it is we have

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<v Speaker 2>a very large format store, whereas a lot of our

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<v Speaker 2>competition tends to be smaller. Our average store is probably

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<v Speaker 2>around thirty five thirty eight thousand square feet. Oh wow,

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<v Speaker 2>I would think more like a Dick Sporting Goods versus

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<v Speaker 2>some of the other golf retailers that are in the

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<v Speaker 2>specialty space are more like a you know, eight to

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<v Speaker 2>twelve thousand square foot smaller retail box. So it allows

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<v Speaker 2>us to carry the broadest assortment in golf and really

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<v Speaker 2>be able to capitalize on all segments.

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<v Speaker 1>So interesting, So I'm in northern California. I've seen one

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<v Speaker 1>PGA superstore in an airport, huh, you know, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was like it was great because there was a bought

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<v Speaker 1>a great shut from there. It was on sale and

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<v Speaker 1>I still wear it and about it years ago. And

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<v Speaker 1>then the closest outlet or the closest store to me

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<v Speaker 1>in northern California is about an hour away. It's in

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<v Speaker 1>the East Bay and Dublin, California.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so the retail and airport is actually not us

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<v Speaker 2>really license seed partner of the tour.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a PGA store.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's PGA Tour Shop. So it's a partner.

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<v Speaker 2>But we are in Dublin. We're also in Cooper, Tino

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<v Speaker 2>and East Palo Alto, so hopefully any one of those

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<v Speaker 2>three and for all the things you might not want

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<v Speaker 2>to drive an hour for, we have a broader assortment online,

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<v Speaker 2>so promise we will fill any and all of your

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<v Speaker 2>golf needs. Frets.

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<v Speaker 1>So ah, the Internet saved so many retailers and knock

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<v Speaker 1>so many out, so let's see your function. There is

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<v Speaker 1>everything other than retail hard good stuff. But we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to really talk about in homes simulators today, and it

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<v Speaker 1>seems with TGL and maybe I missed something before that,

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<v Speaker 1>but in home simulator and simulator golf, virtual golf, let's

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<v Speaker 1>call it golf. I still see it as golf. Virtual

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<v Speaker 1>golf is a video game, but golf simulators, and that

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<v Speaker 1>seems to really be growing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it's been booming well before TG I

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<v Speaker 2>think it really took off. COVID helped a lot. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, over the last five years, the landscape

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<v Speaker 2>of golf has completely changed. We brought a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>new people into the game. I think with that, the

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<v Speaker 2>evolution of the format of golf kind of had to

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<v Speaker 2>or needed to change a bit as you bring more

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<v Speaker 2>non maybe traditional golfers into the game to play it.

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<v Speaker 2>And not only that, access has become harder, right, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean in late twenty and early twenty one, when most

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<v Speaker 2>other activities were shut down or golf courses it was

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<v Speaker 2>tough to get tea times. So you saw a push

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<v Speaker 2>into kind of the off course realm, whether it was

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<v Speaker 2>a top golf or a simulator company. And then quickly

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<v Speaker 2>I think people realized, you know, to get out on

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<v Speaker 2>a Saturday and play and leave your family or whatever

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<v Speaker 2>it might be, you have to drive to and from

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<v Speaker 2>your warm up session, maybe a nineteenth whole visit afterwards.

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<v Speaker 2>Next thing you know, you're out for seven hours to

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<v Speaker 2>get through the round. And in the simulator world, you

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<v Speaker 2>and I are playing eighteen holes at Pebble Beach in

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<v Speaker 2>whatever cold city we might be wishing we were at

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<v Speaker 2>Pebble Beach, and we're doing it in sixty to ninety minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>So and you're teeing off at eight pm, exactly right.

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<v Speaker 1>And let's not forget that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly right. So I mean, any climate, anytime, anything,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have to wait on the tea time, there's

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<v Speaker 2>nobody in front of you playing slow, So all of

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<v Speaker 2>that aspect. I love how you called it out. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not virtual golf, it's golf. It's just golf in a

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<v Speaker 2>different sense. And we're really bulow it. We're really hoping

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<v Speaker 2>that it continues to grow. It was crazy talking to

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<v Speaker 2>one of our vendor partners who helps with junior clubs

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<v Speaker 2>and kind of the growth of the game. And there

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<v Speaker 2>was actually a kid that played in one of the

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<v Speaker 2>tournaments that is now going on a D one scholarship

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<v Speaker 2>and had never played an off course round before he

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<v Speaker 2>got to one of the championship tournaments. So the whole

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<v Speaker 2>experience that this kid had in golf was in a

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<v Speaker 2>virtual world. So you know that whole evolution of the

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<v Speaker 2>game is only growing. It helps bring kids in. There's

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<v Speaker 2>an easier way to play. You don't have that, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny. Everybody's got the first t envy of wanting

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<v Speaker 2>the newest product and everything else. But there's also that

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<v Speaker 2>fear if you're new to the game and you don't

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<v Speaker 2>know that the rules of the game and all the

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<v Speaker 2>different ways it works. There's also that fear side of

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<v Speaker 2>it going to the first team of it. Am I

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do something wrong? Am I going to embarrass myself?

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<v Speaker 2>I really shouldn't be out here, I don't want to play.

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<v Speaker 2>All of that goes away when you're in your basement,

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<v Speaker 2>playing in the comfort of your own home. So we're

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<v Speaker 2>really bullish on and really excited to spanded.

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<v Speaker 1>I need to back up about this kid who went

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<v Speaker 1>from off course golf as you call it, or simulator golf,

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<v Speaker 1>to playing where.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure I just totally but it's wait.

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<v Speaker 1>He must have been shocked when he had to hit

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<v Speaker 1>a ball that was below his feet or even above

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<v Speaker 1>his feet or he had to putt I mean, wait what, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't make any sense. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, those parts are crazy to think about. But I

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<v Speaker 2>mean you got to also think how many the evolution

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<v Speaker 2>of how good those products are, you know, every in

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<v Speaker 2>and out of your swing, swing path, spin rates, all

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<v Speaker 2>those things that there are probably a fair number of

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<v Speaker 2>kids fifteen twenty years ago that played incredible D one

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<v Speaker 2>schools that maybe never even had access to those numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>It was all absolutely so like that aspect of it

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<v Speaker 2>is unbelievable fast we've evolved.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, no, it's it's true that you can with

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<v Speaker 1>the proper tools, you can learn a lot about your

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<v Speaker 1>swing before you ever get to a golf course. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>hitting balls, and we reiterate this so often on this show.

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<v Speaker 1>Hitting golf balls and playing golf are two completely different things.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, absolutely, yeah, he agrees.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's talk a little bit more. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>go into more of your first reaction when you walked

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<v Speaker 1>into SOFI and saw the TGL setup.

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<v Speaker 2>It was wild the day that I first so I'd

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<v Speaker 2>been a part of kind of the inner workings with

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<v Speaker 2>tglsins middle of twenty twenty two, and it had kind

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<v Speaker 2>of been a little bit of a dream come true.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was late twenty three. We were down at

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<v Speaker 2>Universal Studios. They had essentially a smaller format of the

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<v Speaker 2>screen where they were doing all the test runs and

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<v Speaker 2>figuring out the competition and the technology, and getting to

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<v Speaker 2>go down there already kind of blew your mind a

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<v Speaker 2>bit just seeing them. I think at the time that

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<v Speaker 2>screen was thirty feet by forty feet or something, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's still massive, but you didn't have anything

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<v Speaker 2>other than that. But still it just it blew your

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<v Speaker 2>mind to seek off plate in that kind of setting,

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of environment, and then transition. It was November

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<v Speaker 2>of twenty four and I actually went down the day

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<v Speaker 2>that we had Justin and Pat come in for the

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<v Speaker 2>first time. And and Thomas and Patrick can'tle a so

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<v Speaker 2>they were two players actually to walk in and hit

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<v Speaker 2>a ball in so far, so we were all there

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<v Speaker 2>the same same time. And you walk in, you turn

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<v Speaker 2>just I don't know, Fred, if you have the chance

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<v Speaker 2>to go down or not, but I mean it just

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<v Speaker 2>takes you away. It takes your breath away, you're it

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<v Speaker 2>just it was mind boggling to see.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, if that's an invitation, I'm coming.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, absolutely, but it it was unbelievable. So and then

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<v Speaker 2>even just over the progression from November until the first week,

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<v Speaker 2>and you just saw the stadium come together more time,

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<v Speaker 2>just the technological feat that happened to make that facility

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<v Speaker 1>And you got involved with the Atlanta team mainly because

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<v Speaker 1>well TGA Superstores PGA Superstores and the Atlanta TGL team,

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<v Speaker 1>the Atlanta Drive are owned both by the same person

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<v Speaker 1>who also is the co founder of Home Depot, Arthur Blank. Yes, right,

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<v Speaker 1>what was your involvement during TGL. Am I saying it right?

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<v Speaker 1>Or am I saying PGL TGL like blanking out here?

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<v Speaker 1>So your involvement with TGL and the Atlanta team, what

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? So I mean starting back in twenty two. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>very bullish on the growth that exists within the game

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<v Speaker 2>of golf, and got excited by the opportunity to be

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<v Speaker 2>to work on just looking at was it right, was

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<v Speaker 2>it the right opportunity, what it was going to look like,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of on the investment side. Post investment, then it

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<v Speaker 2>from like logos, colors, everything we kind of did to

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<v Speaker 2>design Atlanta Dry and then with that it was kind

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<v Speaker 2>of me for a while there as a point person,

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<v Speaker 2>if you will, between the team and the league, so

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<v Speaker 2>helping just kind of create the original rules, the cadence

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<v Speaker 2>of how everything happens. I mean, we were flying a

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<v Speaker 2>and and and hoping it works. And so it was fun.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it was a startup, right, So.

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<v Speaker 1>We have you ever been involved in anything like that

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<v Speaker 1>before as a startup?

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<v Speaker 2>No, nothing like that?

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<v Speaker 2>Know, it was a wild ride. So we got to

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<v Speaker 2>pass of how we were going to do rosters, to

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<v Speaker 2>then some of the inner workings of some of the

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<v Speaker 2>players leaving because they they went over to another tour

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<v Speaker 2>and then having to figure out what players were going

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<v Speaker 2>to backfill, and then the the issue with the generator

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<v Speaker 2>and the bubble going down, and the delay of the

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<v Speaker 2>league a year and just all the different stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, what do you mean the bubble went down?

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<v Speaker 2>So the original TGL structure was think it was actually

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<v Speaker 2>designed after the Miami Dolphins practice facilities, so it was

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<v Speaker 2>like they call those sports bubbles, more of a soft

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<v Speaker 2>top arena. And the league was supposed to actually launch

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<v Speaker 2>in January of twenty four, but November of twenty three,

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<v Speaker 2>there was a huge storm that went through and struck

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<v Speaker 2>two of the generators that were powering as they were

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<v Speaker 2>still doing construction, and part of the salt bubble, I guess,

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<v Speaker 2>for lack of a word, deflating on one of them

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<v Speaker 2>metal joys and popped it and the whole thing collapsed.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was why the league actually got delayed a year.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that the same storm that wiped out the Tampa

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<v Speaker 1>Bay Rays.

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<v Speaker 2>I think yeah, it might actually the same storm. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't remember the timing, but it was. Yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 2>in early November.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Wow Okay, And then during TGL itself on the broadcast,

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<v Speaker 1>you were right there with the Atlanta team.

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<v Speaker 2>I was. I was on the I guess you'd call

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<v Speaker 2>it field to play with them.

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<v Speaker 1>So on the course, yes, on the.

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<v Speaker 2>The three of us, the three of the players and

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<v Speaker 2>myself were down there for each match.

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<v Speaker 1>And what were you doing there with them?

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<v Speaker 2>Specifically on match nights? I kind of helped orchestrate and

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<v Speaker 2>run more of the strategic side of how we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to approach things, So manage the actual physical screen for one,

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<v Speaker 2>So basically, you know, in the simulator world, you aim

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<v Speaker 2>where you want to go, you actually move the point

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<v Speaker 2>of aim. You're able to look at if they had

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<v Speaker 2>a question of how far is the carry to that

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<v Speaker 2>bunk or how far? So it was kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>we called it the digital caddy. So think kind of

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<v Speaker 2>in that mindset to be able to have a massive

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<v Speaker 2>Yardist book in the in the digital world. So running

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<v Speaker 2>that and then working with the guys on helping set

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<v Speaker 2>what order they were going to play, kind of mapped

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<v Speaker 2>out the holes of hey, Billy, we're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>hit driver here, We're going to play out to the right.

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<v Speaker 2>That sets justin up for a good seven iron, like

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<v Speaker 2>just almost like mapping out the strategy behind how we

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<v Speaker 2>were going to approach it. So works closely with them

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<v Speaker 2>and all that. So honestly, my goal was I just

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<v Speaker 2>wanted them to show up and focus on hitting the

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<v Speaker 2>best shots and not have to overthink any of that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Let that all be to me and we'll send it

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<v Speaker 2>all up.

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<v Speaker 1>How familiar with were you with each of their games

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<v Speaker 1>on an en course play that you were able to

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<v Speaker 1>assist in what decisions are being made strategically. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>were a caddy, right, Basically you were a caddy without

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<v Speaker 2>Lucky you, thank you, But you had to deal with

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<v Speaker 2>three people and not one, so I don't know part

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<v Speaker 2>of me would argue carrying a bag might be they

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<v Speaker 2>were first off, these guys were the greatest. I couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>have wanted a better group of four guys on the

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<v Speaker 2>team because we did have four, but only three played

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<v Speaker 2>in a night. But yeah, I mean I think it

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<v Speaker 2>was a combination of thankfully for shot Link now and

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<v Speaker 2>how and in what ways they play, mirrored with just having

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<v Speaker 2>a good communication channel with what's their comfort level on

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<v Speaker 2>hitting a cut versus draw, what's their comfort level on

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<v Speaker 2>rough shots versus fair way. You know, if it tightened

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<v Speaker 2>up closer, do you want a ninety shot from the

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<v Speaker 2>rough or a one to fifty from short grass. Just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of having some of those notes when we practiced

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<v Speaker 2>early on just kind of help streamline the whole process,

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<v Speaker 2>if you will. So it's a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 2>combination of already just watching them and being huge fans

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<v Speaker 2>of them each and every week, plus working directly with

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<v Speaker 2>them to get a feel for what they like and

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<v Speaker 2>don't like.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, who is the most difficult?

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<v Speaker 2>None of them? They were all amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh come on. So and now that that season is

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<v Speaker 1>over and I felt like it was a big success.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved watching it. I know that there are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of let's call them old school OG golfers right

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<v Speaker 1>that were like discounting it as if it was another

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<v Speaker 1>league that was just trying to dig into the PGA

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<v Speaker 1>Tour like live. But it really kind of supported what

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<v Speaker 1>PGA is doing as opposed to competing with it, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they complimented. I mean it was clear that

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<v Speaker 1>these were Monday and Tuesday nights because those were the

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<v Speaker 1>off days for these guys and they lived a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of them lived in the area where so far was

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<v Speaker 1>set up.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct, that's right? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So how how does everyone feel about season two?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I mean I think everybody's bullish, kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>you were just hinting at, right. I mean, it is

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<v Speaker 2>one of those things where a lot of a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the guys maybe the first match or the first

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<v Speaker 2>practice sessions, there was a little bit of it's new. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>The way I kind of equated it was, I if

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<v Speaker 2>you're playing at API at bay Hill and you had

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<v Speaker 2>to go out and play the next week at the

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<v Speaker 2>Scottish Open, you got to change the way you play golf.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not going to the same type of drive. You're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to hit the forty yard shots around the

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<v Speaker 2>greens the same. The lies are different, you have to

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<v Speaker 2>play the conditions, the wind, the temperature, everything. This was

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<v Speaker 2>the exact same situation, and I think maybe some of

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<v Speaker 2>the guys at first wanted to say it's the same,

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<v Speaker 2>but you have to realize you're indoors, so it's a

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<v Speaker 2>controlled environment. There's no wind. The ball flies differently because

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<v Speaker 2>versus outdoor mornings and afternoon rounds. The humidity changes, so

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<v Speaker 2>there's all these different things. And yes, we hit off

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<v Speaker 2>a real grass into the screen, but it was hitting

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<v Speaker 2>off of turf around the greens, So some of the

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<v Speaker 2>guys maybe hit the same that low spinning webshot, but

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<v Speaker 2>if that ball lands in turf, it interacts differently than

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<v Speaker 2>if it lands on you know, bed grass or something.

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<v Speaker 2>So there was just an adoption that needed to happen

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<v Speaker 2>as they realized that it was technically a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a different game, a different format, And once that happened,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody started playing their best, and I think it really

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<v Speaker 2>I think after the first couple of weeks, everybody would

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<v Speaker 2>agree that competition got really, really tight, because now you're

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<v Speaker 2>just seeing the best players in the world have fun

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<v Speaker 2>and want to beat each other. And it was in person.

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<v Speaker 2>I got to tell you, like, you're standing with the

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<v Speaker 2>guys on the side, and I'll just say they were

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<v Speaker 2>think carrying that into season two is is only exciting

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<v Speaker 2>or super bullish on all of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I have grand visions for TGL. I see co ed teams.

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<v Speaker 1>I see LPGA versus LPGA. I see LPGA versus PGA.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to see PGA versus live, right, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that this doesn't have to be a once a year,

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<v Speaker 1>couple of week situation. But I'm not involved in the

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<v Speaker 1>decision making at all my senses. You're not involved in

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<v Speaker 1>the decision making, but you're on the inside hearing the conversations.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's that's probably fair.

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<v Speaker 1>So what's going on in the conversations?

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<v Speaker 2>But come on, man, I mean, I think I think

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<v Speaker 2>there's definitely an opportunity to expand. I you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>think everybody would love to see a way to incorporate

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<v Speaker 2>the female golfer into this environment. It's the LPGA is

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<v Speaker 2>doing nothing but growing. The women that play in that

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<v Speaker 2>are as good, if not better than a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the guys, and unfortunately they just haven't always gotten the eyeballs.

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<v Speaker 2>And the more people are watching, you watch Nelly play golf,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't care what I mean, She's just she's

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely unbelievable. We'd be crazy to say we wouldn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to see or compete in this kind of environment. So

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<v Speaker 2>I think we're I think there's definitely a likelihood of

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<v Speaker 2>seeing something in the in the future, whether it's you know, mixed,

425
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<v Speaker 2>whether it's just an LPGA league. But even to add

426
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<v Speaker 2>onto what you're saying, Fred, and who knows where this

427
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<v Speaker 2>would go and if it is, But I mean, you're

428
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<v Speaker 2>seeing the creator classics happening anymore now. On PGA Tour events,

429
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<v Speaker 2>you could see the number of celebrities that have grown

430
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<v Speaker 2>to love this game, that have actually invested also in

431
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<v Speaker 2>TGL like Steph Curry and some of these other folks

432
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<v Speaker 2>that have really strong presence in the game of golf.

433
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<v Speaker 2>How do you see that expansion. We've seen that match

434
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<v Speaker 2>format bring NFL players and other people from other sports

435
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<v Speaker 2>leagues to draw interest and grow the game. We had

436
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<v Speaker 2>any of people. There was one night Josh Allen's bachelor

437
00:24:02.519 --> 00:24:05.519
<v Speaker 2>party was down there during one of our matches, and

438
00:24:05.559 --> 00:24:07.960
<v Speaker 2>he and the guys all played after the match was over.

439
00:24:09.839 --> 00:24:12.680
<v Speaker 2>You know, the more you see that kind of interaction,

440
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<v Speaker 2>it makes you excited just to think about the possibilities

441
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<v Speaker 2>of where that format and that stadium can really elevate

442
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<v Speaker 2>the game across more than just the PGA Tour. So yeah,

443
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'll say that to me, there's endless opportunities

444
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<v Speaker 2>of where and how they can expand and take this

445
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<v Speaker 2>to help gar the game.

446
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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, And there's the team aspect of it. You know,

447
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<v Speaker 1>we know how exciting the Ryder Cup is and the

448
00:24:40.720 --> 00:24:43.640
<v Speaker 1>energy of it, but the team aspect of this what

449
00:24:43.920 --> 00:24:47.720
<v Speaker 1>really sucked me in was these guys being miked so

450
00:24:47.839 --> 00:24:50.119
<v Speaker 1>you can hear them giving each other a hard time,

451
00:24:50.680 --> 00:24:52.839
<v Speaker 1>you know, dishing it out. But you could also hear

452
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<v Speaker 1>their strategy as they're playing, which I felt was so

453
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<v Speaker 1>exciting to hear that part. He's made it more fun.

454
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<v Speaker 1>You know. The other thing is like here, clearly Tiger,

455
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<v Speaker 1>who's never going to be able to walk seventy seventy

456
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<v Speaker 1>two holes competitively. Ever, again, we don't think he's always

457
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<v Speaker 1>got magic in his back pocket, but we don't know.

458
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<v Speaker 1>But in a situation like this where he doesn't have

459
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<v Speaker 1>to walk seventy two holes and he can play a

460
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<v Speaker 1>full round, that opens the door to more seniors coming in,

461
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<v Speaker 1>right the Champions Tour, the guys, the older guys coming

462
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<v Speaker 1>in and playing against each other because they don't have

463
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<v Speaker 1>to they don't have to walk that much anymore, less

464
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<v Speaker 1>taxing on him.

465
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Absolutely, By the way, anybody that thinks that man,

466
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<v Speaker 2>if he was allowed a cart, I would bet on

467
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<v Speaker 2>him to win again in a big tournament because he's

468
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<v Speaker 2>still I mean to see, I swear he is. He's

469
00:25:49.559 --> 00:25:52.440
<v Speaker 2>got magic in every pocket. To watch how he can

470
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<v Speaker 2>still hit the ball one hundred and eighty miles an hour,

471
00:25:56.720 --> 00:25:58.480
<v Speaker 2>he just blows it. He blows your mind to get

472
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<v Speaker 2>to see it in person. He's just you were right there, Yeah,

473
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<v Speaker 2>he's a bit.

474
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<v Speaker 1>And you're looking at the numbers, hard numbers comparing to

475
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<v Speaker 1>these other guys, and here he is, and you're.

476
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<v Speaker 2>Saying, these guys that are winning on the tour right now,

477
00:26:11.839 --> 00:26:14.599
<v Speaker 2>and he's doing it with you know, obviously maybe the

478
00:26:14.680 --> 00:26:17.359
<v Speaker 2>legs aren't as strong and parts of your body that

479
00:26:17.599 --> 00:26:21.119
<v Speaker 2>you need to generate speed, and he's still out there

480
00:26:21.200 --> 00:26:25.480
<v Speaker 2>just hitting fairways at very very fast speeds. That just

481
00:26:26.039 --> 00:26:29.279
<v Speaker 2>he's unbelievable, he really is. Can only hope he can

482
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<v Speaker 2>figure that magic sauce out that you were talking about

483
00:26:31.599 --> 00:26:33.839
<v Speaker 2>and we get to see him bring twenty nineteen augusta

484
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<v Speaker 2>back to life, because I think everybody in the world

485
00:26:36.440 --> 00:26:37.200
<v Speaker 2>would love to see it.

486
00:26:37.519 --> 00:26:42.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly everybody. Well, and then in this conversation thinking about,

487
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<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, Charlie his son, Oh, let's go teams.

488
00:26:48.079 --> 00:26:50.759
<v Speaker 1>Let's do college teams. Nil is going to allow this. Now,

489
00:26:51.119 --> 00:26:55.200
<v Speaker 1>let's see college teams, the top four college six college

490
00:26:55.200 --> 00:26:58.039
<v Speaker 1>teams compete or eight teams, whatever you have, you know,

491
00:26:58.119 --> 00:27:00.480
<v Speaker 1>compete against each other because they're used to team golf

492
00:27:00.480 --> 00:27:03.079
<v Speaker 1>as it is. Anyway, it's a whole another so you

493
00:27:03.119 --> 00:27:05.400
<v Speaker 1>can do this. All this can be done all year long.

494
00:27:06.160 --> 00:27:09.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, Insider Baseball thread. I may or may not

495
00:27:09.680 --> 00:27:12.440
<v Speaker 2>have asked Charlie when we played Tiger if I could

496
00:27:12.440 --> 00:27:14.480
<v Speaker 2>give him the closer signal when he's sitting in the

497
00:27:14.480 --> 00:27:16.599
<v Speaker 2>box and see if he would come out and put

498
00:27:16.640 --> 00:27:19.079
<v Speaker 2>against his dad. And we beat him. But he didn't

499
00:27:19.079 --> 00:27:20.480
<v Speaker 2>want to. He didn't want to put his dad to

500
00:27:20.480 --> 00:27:24.440
<v Speaker 2>shame on ESPN. But we But you're right, I mean nothing.

501
00:27:24.680 --> 00:27:29.240
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you think about how amazing of a format

502
00:27:29.319 --> 00:27:32.000
<v Speaker 2>like even what the father Son PNC is. Oh my god,

503
00:27:32.039 --> 00:27:35.119
<v Speaker 2>there's so many of these type of events that tgl's

504
00:27:35.160 --> 00:27:37.960
<v Speaker 2>format and the style of play could lend itself to

505
00:27:38.440 --> 00:27:42.079
<v Speaker 2>and it's two hours exactly. It's fast format. The shot

506
00:27:42.119 --> 00:27:45.440
<v Speaker 2>clock was fun, like if you're in the stadium, everybody's chanting,

507
00:27:45.519 --> 00:27:48.319
<v Speaker 2>like in a basketball game when there was ten seconds left,

508
00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:50.960
<v Speaker 2>you know our guys, everybody's running around trying to get

509
00:27:51.000 --> 00:27:53.559
<v Speaker 2>the crowd riled up. It feels like the first he

510
00:27:53.680 --> 00:27:55.720
<v Speaker 2>at the Ryder Cup for almost two hours. I mean,

511
00:27:55.759 --> 00:27:58.160
<v Speaker 2>you can be loud. None of the guys care. There

512
00:27:58.200 --> 00:28:00.599
<v Speaker 2>was no like signs held up. That's as please be

513
00:28:00.720 --> 00:28:04.559
<v Speaker 2>quiet when we're tea and off. You've got guys just chanting.

514
00:28:04.599 --> 00:28:07.000
<v Speaker 2>When we played New York, I swear they flew down

515
00:28:07.440 --> 00:28:10.359
<v Speaker 2>Long Island into a fan section and they had no

516
00:28:10.480 --> 00:28:14.480
<v Speaker 2>problem bringing the Bethpage Block noise to us at TGL,

517
00:28:14.720 --> 00:28:17.440
<v Speaker 2>and it was it made it. It riled our guys up.

518
00:28:17.480 --> 00:28:18.559
<v Speaker 2>It made it so much fun.

519
00:28:18.680 --> 00:28:25.960
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, So technologically TGL again introduced the shot clock,

520
00:28:26.079 --> 00:28:30.799
<v Speaker 1>which was pretty great. The shot clock and the pressure

521
00:28:31.200 --> 00:28:34.079
<v Speaker 1>and if I remember, because I watched every single one,

522
00:28:34.119 --> 00:28:37.119
<v Speaker 1>the only shot clock violation I think was just once

523
00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:39.680
<v Speaker 1>or twice and it was both Tiger, right, it was

524
00:28:39.759 --> 00:28:42.559
<v Speaker 1>once and it was and it was Tiger. Yeah. Yeah.

525
00:28:42.599 --> 00:28:45.279
<v Speaker 1>He seemed to have more issues with the technology than

526
00:28:45.279 --> 00:28:49.799
<v Speaker 1>anybody and the old guy. But you know, like Waitte,

527
00:28:50.359 --> 00:28:52.599
<v Speaker 1>my my nine iron doesn't go that far. You know,

528
00:28:52.640 --> 00:28:55.200
<v Speaker 1>he kept doing a couple of those, but dude, you're

529
00:28:55.240 --> 00:28:58.000
<v Speaker 1>hitting off of phony gret well. But when they're hitting

530
00:28:58.079 --> 00:29:07.039
<v Speaker 1>those boxes, yeah, yeah, yeah. So what about other introductions

531
00:29:07.039 --> 00:29:10.079
<v Speaker 1>of technology do you see in the future, because I

532
00:29:10.079 --> 00:29:10.839
<v Speaker 1>have a suggestion.

533
00:29:12.680 --> 00:29:14.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm curious your suggestion before I say anything.

534
00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay, have a.

535
00:29:15.960 --> 00:29:16.960
<v Speaker 2>Better idea than I do.

536
00:29:17.240 --> 00:29:20.640
<v Speaker 1>No, it's not better, it's just an idea, but I

537
00:29:20.720 --> 00:29:26.920
<v Speaker 1>think there it's hard on TV to follow the ball

538
00:29:27.039 --> 00:29:30.079
<v Speaker 1>once it's hit, especially when they take that weird angle

539
00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:34.200
<v Speaker 1>from the back left corner. But like you, you hear

540
00:29:34.279 --> 00:29:37.279
<v Speaker 1>the ball hit, You kind of hear a pop when

541
00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:39.759
<v Speaker 1>it hits the screen, but you don't see it, and

542
00:29:39.799 --> 00:29:41.960
<v Speaker 1>then all of a sudden, there's like a beat later

543
00:29:42.079 --> 00:29:44.799
<v Speaker 1>and the ball's fly. Now you see a virtual ball flying.

544
00:29:45.960 --> 00:29:51.200
<v Speaker 1>My suggestion would be to have like a sound effect

545
00:29:52.039 --> 00:29:57.960
<v Speaker 1>for when it goes from actual to virtual, like when

546
00:29:58.000 --> 00:30:01.759
<v Speaker 1>the ball hits the screen, to hear a type of

547
00:30:01.799 --> 00:30:05.759
<v Speaker 1>sound right, so that you know, okay, But also there's

548
00:30:05.799 --> 00:30:09.640
<v Speaker 1>a mark on the screen where it hit, because obviously

549
00:30:09.759 --> 00:30:12.160
<v Speaker 1>the driver gonna it's gonna be lower on the screen

550
00:30:12.200 --> 00:30:14.119
<v Speaker 1>and then when they hit a wedge. I mean, this

551
00:30:14.160 --> 00:30:16.920
<v Speaker 1>thing is sixty feet tall, and you know they're hitting

552
00:30:17.119 --> 00:30:19.240
<v Speaker 1>wedges that probably.

553
00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:21.119
<v Speaker 2>Could hit the roof getting close.

554
00:30:21.519 --> 00:30:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you know it's like where did it hit

555
00:30:24.039 --> 00:30:26.480
<v Speaker 1>on the screen? What angle are they taking? So I

556
00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:28.799
<v Speaker 1>have a better idea. I mean, I'm not saying to

557
00:30:29.200 --> 00:30:33.480
<v Speaker 1>have the tracker line the top tracer line follow the

558
00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:37.279
<v Speaker 1>ball from when it hits, but to have that moment

559
00:30:37.880 --> 00:30:44.759
<v Speaker 1>from actual to virtual I think would enhance it a bit. Yeah,

560
00:30:44.799 --> 00:30:45.880
<v Speaker 1>I think my two cents.

561
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<v Speaker 2>I think there's gonna be a lot that they'll be

562
00:30:48.119 --> 00:30:51.720
<v Speaker 2>able to learn and grow from it. I think, you know,

563
00:30:51.920 --> 00:30:54.640
<v Speaker 2>multiple times throughout the season there were slight adjustments within

564
00:30:54.720 --> 00:30:58.440
<v Speaker 2>production and also kind of in venue activation and the

565
00:30:58.480 --> 00:31:01.720
<v Speaker 2>way it worked. I give a lot of credits over

566
00:31:01.920 --> 00:31:04.119
<v Speaker 2>down there at TGL. They've got a lot of really

567
00:31:04.119 --> 00:31:07.240
<v Speaker 2>bright minds that have a lot of opportunities. Jeff Newbarthur

568
00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:11.839
<v Speaker 2>runs production obviously in league for years and put on

569
00:31:11.880 --> 00:31:15.480
<v Speaker 2>all the matches throughout their creation and has a lot

570
00:31:15.519 --> 00:31:18.119
<v Speaker 2>of experience in that and excited to see kind of

571
00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:21.559
<v Speaker 2>what that team brings to life coming into season two.

572
00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:24.720
<v Speaker 1>Well it maybe mine may not have been that good

573
00:31:24.720 --> 00:31:26.319
<v Speaker 1>of an idea because you didn't write it down.

574
00:31:28.039 --> 00:31:30.079
<v Speaker 2>This is recorded, so I didn't have to write it down.

575
00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:40.039
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I think we need to get back to our

576
00:31:40.079 --> 00:31:44.519
<v Speaker 1>own virtual setups now. That was really awesome, and congratulations

577
00:31:44.920 --> 00:31:47.079
<v Speaker 1>on being involved in all of that. It was fun

578
00:31:47.119 --> 00:31:50.039
<v Speaker 1>to see. And on the cover of this episode you'll

579
00:31:50.039 --> 00:31:51.759
<v Speaker 1>see a photo have been with a couple of the

580
00:31:51.799 --> 00:31:56.880
<v Speaker 1>players from a TGL event. Let's let's now talk more

581
00:31:56.960 --> 00:32:02.680
<v Speaker 1>about how we can play and press ACTE virtually with

582
00:32:02.799 --> 00:32:08.000
<v Speaker 1>our own in home setup. Where do you start when

583
00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:10.960
<v Speaker 1>someone's saying I want to do a simulator at my house,

584
00:32:11.640 --> 00:32:14.519
<v Speaker 1>how do you start that? Where's this conversation begin?

585
00:32:15.519 --> 00:32:17.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean there's a couple of kind of parameters

586
00:32:17.640 --> 00:32:20.759
<v Speaker 2>that we just want to understand, right. It really comes

587
00:32:20.799 --> 00:32:25.359
<v Speaker 2>down to a few things. One the size of the room.

588
00:32:25.799 --> 00:32:29.799
<v Speaker 2>That sounds like it may be obvious, but certain simulators

589
00:32:29.799 --> 00:32:34.279
<v Speaker 2>and launch binder technologies require different depths to the screen

590
00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:38.640
<v Speaker 2>depth from where you make contact. So for at first glance,

591
00:32:39.000 --> 00:32:42.279
<v Speaker 2>knowing how big your room is, you eliminate X number

592
00:32:42.319 --> 00:32:46.920
<v Speaker 2>of options. So room sizes is really important.

593
00:32:46.720 --> 00:32:50.000
<v Speaker 1>And I would suspect that most important is the height

594
00:32:50.039 --> 00:32:50.640
<v Speaker 1>of the ceiling.

595
00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:55.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean the heights nine feet minimum. But outside

596
00:32:55.480 --> 00:32:58.000
<v Speaker 2>of that, really any of the launch monitors work. If

597
00:32:58.000 --> 00:33:02.559
<v Speaker 2>you have that height. It really becomes more of the depth,

598
00:33:02.640 --> 00:33:05.359
<v Speaker 2>the amount of space from the launch monitor to the

599
00:33:05.400 --> 00:33:09.640
<v Speaker 2>screen and the hit location of the screen. So that

600
00:33:09.759 --> 00:33:13.319
<v Speaker 2>part of it's kind of an important factor. And then second,

601
00:33:13.319 --> 00:33:15.319
<v Speaker 2>what are you looking to get from it? I mean,

602
00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:18.920
<v Speaker 2>in our opinion kind of being an agnostic partner that

603
00:33:19.039 --> 00:33:22.000
<v Speaker 2>studies and looks at all the different technologies. Are you

604
00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:24.920
<v Speaker 2>looking to have it more of a social thing and

605
00:33:24.960 --> 00:33:28.000
<v Speaker 2>play games with friends. Are you looking to just practice

606
00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:30.319
<v Speaker 2>and you want as many ball metrics as possible to

607
00:33:30.519 --> 00:33:32.920
<v Speaker 2>be that kid who gets a D one scholarship never

608
00:33:32.960 --> 00:33:35.799
<v Speaker 2>playing outdoors, or are you looking to play the best

609
00:33:35.880 --> 00:33:38.640
<v Speaker 2>quality of pebble beach that you can like? It really

610
00:33:38.720 --> 00:33:41.720
<v Speaker 2>kind of depends on what your use cases because the

611
00:33:41.759 --> 00:33:46.920
<v Speaker 2>different technologies specialize in different things. And then third, ultimately

612
00:33:47.000 --> 00:33:50.000
<v Speaker 2>is price point. What budget do you have and how

613
00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:53.440
<v Speaker 2>do we create the best solution for you, your family, whatever

614
00:33:53.480 --> 00:33:56.000
<v Speaker 2>your situation is. So I think when we have those

615
00:33:56.079 --> 00:33:58.200
<v Speaker 2>kind of three, it's a really good starting point to

616
00:33:58.279 --> 00:34:01.000
<v Speaker 2>then put you in the right bundle at least to

617
00:34:01.039 --> 00:34:03.799
<v Speaker 2>start a conversation around and kind of work on it

618
00:34:03.839 --> 00:34:04.200
<v Speaker 2>from there.

619
00:34:05.880 --> 00:34:07.839
<v Speaker 1>And it doesn't have to be indoors.

620
00:34:08.159 --> 00:34:10.800
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't. That's another question. You may bring that up. Fred.

621
00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:12.920
<v Speaker 2>It's a lot of these units. I mean, we see

622
00:34:12.960 --> 00:34:15.559
<v Speaker 2>every pro guy with one of these or gals on

623
00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:19.400
<v Speaker 2>the range when they're warming up. A lot of these

624
00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:21.360
<v Speaker 2>you could put behind you and hit into a net

625
00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:25.079
<v Speaker 2>in your backyard, you can play in your garage. I mean,

626
00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:27.960
<v Speaker 2>there's endless options when you really think about it. But again,

627
00:34:28.000 --> 00:34:29.760
<v Speaker 2>that'd be another thing to note because some of the

628
00:34:29.800 --> 00:34:33.440
<v Speaker 2>units maybe aren't as good outdoors versus indoors, et cetera.

629
00:34:33.559 --> 00:34:36.079
<v Speaker 2>So it really just depends on again what your use

630
00:34:36.119 --> 00:34:37.519
<v Speaker 2>case is ultimately.

631
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<v Speaker 1>And when I walk in the door saying I want

632
00:34:40.079 --> 00:34:45.199
<v Speaker 1>to do in home simulator, and I'm thinking it's going

633
00:34:45.280 --> 00:34:49.599
<v Speaker 1>to be to help my swing mechanics, to help my swing,

634
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<v Speaker 1>but also for social I want to invite people over

635
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<v Speaker 1>and make a night of it. Things like that, Where

636
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<v Speaker 1>do we start do we start on? Okay, how much?

637
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<v Speaker 1>What's your budget?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a really key key point. I mean, ultimately

639
00:35:03.320 --> 00:35:04.960
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of going to take you also to things

640
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<v Speaker 2>like quality, really quality of what shows up on the screen. Right.

641
00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:13.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean you can go into Best Buy tomorrow and

642
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<v Speaker 2>say I want a fifty five inch TV to watch movies,

643
00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:17.960
<v Speaker 2>and there's going to be a price range from you know,

644
00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:21.639
<v Speaker 2>two hundred and fifty dollars to three thousand dollars. So

645
00:35:22.360 --> 00:35:24.840
<v Speaker 2>ultimately just comes down to some of those things that

646
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<v Speaker 2>are important to you as the consumer. And then they're

647
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<v Speaker 2>small features, right. I mean some of them have built

648
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<v Speaker 2>in screens into the unit. That's a nice feature. Some

649
00:35:33.599 --> 00:35:38.639
<v Speaker 2>of them have better accessibility with iOS and iPad devices

650
00:35:38.679 --> 00:35:40.639
<v Speaker 2>if you did want to be more mobile. So it

651
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<v Speaker 2>starts getting a little bit more technical from there. But

652
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<v Speaker 2>I would say once we know those kind of things,

653
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<v Speaker 2>we've got a starting point for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would think that the starting point is the

655
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<v Speaker 1>most important, because this guy's the limit on how far

656
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<v Speaker 1>you can go in price. You can just keep going

657
00:35:55.760 --> 00:35:59.719
<v Speaker 1>and going. But what should I have in my mind

658
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<v Speaker 1>as a base amount? I'm going to start with For

659
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<v Speaker 1>a room in my house, it's got nine foot ceilings

660
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<v Speaker 1>and the room is twenty by that's a big room.

661
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<v Speaker 1>Twelve twelve by eighteen room, kind of a standard sized room,

662
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<v Speaker 1>I guess, with a nine foot ceiling. So we need

663
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<v Speaker 1>to know what would be the base amount we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about as opposed. You know, do I turn around and

665
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<v Speaker 1>walk out the store right now, or it's like, okay,

666
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<v Speaker 1>you got me, Now let's work from there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean base to get in with everything you

668
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<v Speaker 2>need to be able to play that Now. Granted we

669
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<v Speaker 2>don't sell your iPad or.

670
00:36:40.119 --> 00:36:42.239
<v Speaker 1>They're my golf clubs. I don't need my golf clubs either.

671
00:36:42.400 --> 00:36:44.239
<v Speaker 2>We do sell your golf club I'm sure you do.

672
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<v Speaker 1>But let's just.

673
00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:49.159
<v Speaker 2>Put out of it. If we get you the enclosure,

674
00:36:49.400 --> 00:36:54.119
<v Speaker 2>the screen, the turf, the projector the side net so

675
00:36:55.199 --> 00:36:59.679
<v Speaker 2>kids not hitting a hozzle into your window, the side net,

676
00:36:59.840 --> 00:37:02.639
<v Speaker 2>and then the actual launch monitor itself, we're starting at

677
00:37:02.679 --> 00:37:08.440
<v Speaker 2>about thirty five hundred bucks. Oh that's not bad, No, yeah,

678
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<v Speaker 2>I mean that. This is the exciting thing too. For

679
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<v Speaker 2>as we talked about this and where we're really trying

680
00:37:13.039 --> 00:37:15.559
<v Speaker 2>to get put our foot on the gas and be

681
00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:18.280
<v Speaker 2>bullish on it is the prices have massively come down

682
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<v Speaker 2>really over the last four or five years as mass

683
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<v Speaker 2>adoption has happened. More and more companies are entering this

684
00:37:24.320 --> 00:37:27.960
<v Speaker 2>space and therefore the competitive nature of it has created

685
00:37:27.960 --> 00:37:31.159
<v Speaker 2>a bit of a reduction in price. So it's I

686
00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:34.239
<v Speaker 2>think the mentality of a consumer probably thinks it's fifty

687
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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars to put.

688
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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, that's where I thought.

689
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<v Speaker 2>You go.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, when you said thirty five about one hundred, it's

691
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<v Speaker 1>like thirty five thousand, I am makes sense?

692
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, thirty five hundred. You you can bet on

693
00:37:47.239 --> 00:37:51.400
<v Speaker 2>the low end and play golf courses and have fun

694
00:37:51.440 --> 00:37:53.559
<v Speaker 2>in your house, and that's hitting into a screen with

695
00:37:53.719 --> 00:37:55.400
<v Speaker 2>a projector everything.

696
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<v Speaker 1>I've been a big fan here on Golf Smarter with

697
00:37:58.840 --> 00:38:02.440
<v Speaker 1>the Rahapsodo products. They're great people, and it's a great

698
00:38:02.480 --> 00:38:06.639
<v Speaker 1>product and the quality. I just happened to see a

699
00:38:06.719 --> 00:38:11.360
<v Speaker 1>video on YouTube recently a guy comparing the track man

700
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<v Speaker 1>versus a rap soda, and he's talking about you want

701
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<v Speaker 1>to spend five thousand or you want to spend seven

702
00:38:19.559 --> 00:38:25.480
<v Speaker 1>hundred and the accuracy. He tried multiple shots with three

703
00:38:25.480 --> 00:38:30.119
<v Speaker 1>different clubs and the accuracy was so close it was

704
00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:33.800
<v Speaker 1>unless you're teaching. If this is just a consumer product,

705
00:38:33.800 --> 00:38:37.360
<v Speaker 1>I want to get better. The Rap soda really held

706
00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:41.760
<v Speaker 1>up well at a very compelling price point.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. The rhap Sodo MLM two, which is probably what

708
00:38:45.639 --> 00:38:48.880
<v Speaker 2>you're talking about, is I mean, it's a fantastic price

709
00:38:48.960 --> 00:38:53.119
<v Speaker 2>point a little under seven hundred dollars, unbelievable quality. It's

710
00:38:53.159 --> 00:38:55.199
<v Speaker 2>got a cameras you're able to kind of go back

711
00:38:55.239 --> 00:38:58.039
<v Speaker 2>and loop a little bit of video feed of how

712
00:38:58.039 --> 00:39:01.880
<v Speaker 2>your swing win and then yeah, the accuracies is fantastic.

713
00:39:02.360 --> 00:39:06.760
<v Speaker 2>I think again, when you're paying up, it's different functionality

714
00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:08.639
<v Speaker 2>and features that may or may not be important to

715
00:39:08.679 --> 00:39:12.199
<v Speaker 2>the consumer. So, for instance, some of the higher end

716
00:39:12.199 --> 00:39:14.920
<v Speaker 2>ones might have better quality graphic cards, so when you're

717
00:39:14.920 --> 00:39:18.159
<v Speaker 2>actually hitting into a screen, it's the difference in seeing

718
00:39:18.199 --> 00:39:20.679
<v Speaker 2>the tree blow in the wind and you know, making

719
00:39:20.719 --> 00:39:24.239
<v Speaker 2>a lot more realistic feeling maybe versus a little bit

720
00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:27.719
<v Speaker 2>lower quality graphic. There's small nuances like that that come

721
00:39:27.760 --> 00:39:31.760
<v Speaker 2>into play. There's some small additive ball in club metrics

722
00:39:31.920 --> 00:39:35.760
<v Speaker 2>that certain avid golfers might want to see, angle of attack,

723
00:39:36.079 --> 00:39:38.480
<v Speaker 2>some of these other metrics that are important to their

724
00:39:38.519 --> 00:39:40.960
<v Speaker 2>game that you don't always get with every unit. So

725
00:39:41.039 --> 00:39:44.480
<v Speaker 2>again that's what I'm going with it. There's options for everybody.

726
00:39:44.639 --> 00:39:47.480
<v Speaker 2>It really just comes down to which of those features

727
00:39:47.480 --> 00:39:49.719
<v Speaker 2>and benefits are most important to figure budget.

728
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<v Speaker 1>My son has a putt and green out in front

729
00:39:53.159 --> 00:39:57.280
<v Speaker 1>of his house, fenced in, and he's got two kids,

730
00:39:57.360 --> 00:39:59.440
<v Speaker 1>four and six and a half years old, and just

731
00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:02.639
<v Speaker 1>last week he gave them each their own golf bag

732
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<v Speaker 1>that had a driver, a seven iron, and a putter,

733
00:40:07.159 --> 00:40:10.519
<v Speaker 1>right these small clubs, and immediately they pulled they each

734
00:40:11.039 --> 00:40:13.599
<v Speaker 1>pulled out the driver and the seven iron and wanted

735
00:40:13.639 --> 00:40:16.519
<v Speaker 1>to start swinging away with it. But it's like, no, no, no,

736
00:40:16.639 --> 00:40:19.280
<v Speaker 1>you're going to damage the You're going to damage the

737
00:40:19.320 --> 00:40:21.119
<v Speaker 1>putting green if you hit with that. You can't do that.

738
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<v Speaker 1>And they still don't know what they're doing. They just

739
00:40:23.000 --> 00:40:26.679
<v Speaker 1>like the big the heft of it, and we're trying

740
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<v Speaker 1>to get them to use the putter. So this is

741
00:40:29.920 --> 00:40:32.079
<v Speaker 1>the kind of thing for somebody who has kids, and

742
00:40:32.119 --> 00:40:34.400
<v Speaker 1>it's like, well, I've got kids now and I'm not

743
00:40:34.400 --> 00:40:37.480
<v Speaker 1>going to play be able to play golf anymore. Oh wait,

744
00:40:37.719 --> 00:40:41.360
<v Speaker 1>here's an opportunity. So the price point like that for

745
00:40:41.519 --> 00:40:43.320
<v Speaker 1>him to start and to have kids be able to

746
00:40:43.400 --> 00:40:46.400
<v Speaker 1>hit in the balls and have games with that, interactive games,

747
00:40:46.840 --> 00:40:49.199
<v Speaker 1>that's a pretty compelling argument.

748
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<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent. I mean, it's a there's there's different

749
00:40:54.159 --> 00:40:56.559
<v Speaker 2>technologies again in the launch bars that have different things

750
00:40:56.599 --> 00:40:59.400
<v Speaker 2>for kids. You know, if you've been to Top Golf Day,

751
00:40:59.440 --> 00:41:01.960
<v Speaker 2>that partnership with with Angry Birds. Some of the other

752
00:41:02.880 --> 00:41:07.960
<v Speaker 2>functionality and launch monitors have different cool partnerships to be

753
00:41:07.960 --> 00:41:09.960
<v Speaker 2>able to entice the kid to play. You can play

754
00:41:10.320 --> 00:41:12.639
<v Speaker 2>on top of a skyscraper, you can play out in

755
00:41:12.679 --> 00:41:15.039
<v Speaker 2>a desert hitting at dinosaurs, right, I mean, there's like

756
00:41:15.079 --> 00:41:21.679
<v Speaker 2>different gamify the driving range or make it fun for kids.

757
00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:25.800
<v Speaker 2>So that part's cool. They've they've definitely gotten better on putting,

758
00:41:25.920 --> 00:41:28.360
<v Speaker 2>so a lot of those different launch monitors have like

759
00:41:28.400 --> 00:41:32.199
<v Speaker 2>pup putt courses and things of that nature. So it's

760
00:41:32.239 --> 00:41:36.559
<v Speaker 2>really kind of becoming a family environment if that's again

761
00:41:36.639 --> 00:41:38.760
<v Speaker 2>what you're looking to do with it. And I'm just

762
00:41:38.840 --> 00:41:41.000
<v Speaker 2>to take a step back, I'm being remiss to not

763
00:41:41.119 --> 00:41:46.119
<v Speaker 2>call it out A screen, a projector sounds like a

764
00:41:46.159 --> 00:41:48.320
<v Speaker 2>home theater to me. So when you're not playing, you

765
00:41:48.320 --> 00:41:51.639
<v Speaker 2>can throw you know, whatever you want to watch, and

766
00:41:51.679 --> 00:41:54.159
<v Speaker 2>then you're sitting there, you're the cool house that kids

767
00:41:54.239 --> 00:41:55.800
<v Speaker 2>want to go to because now you basically have a

768
00:41:55.800 --> 00:41:59.400
<v Speaker 2>built in movie theater in your house. So to me,

769
00:41:59.559 --> 00:42:02.320
<v Speaker 2>there's there's so many cool opportunities for the whole family

770
00:42:02.920 --> 00:42:05.239
<v Speaker 2>to be able to get the opportunity or the benefits

771
00:42:05.280 --> 00:42:07.559
<v Speaker 2>of it. So it's not just it's a both a

772
00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:10.159
<v Speaker 2>Father's Day and Mother's Day and Christmas gift for the kids.

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00:42:10.199 --> 00:42:15.760
<v Speaker 1>Whoever is right, So tell me why I should be

774
00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:19.800
<v Speaker 1>calling PGA Superstore if I'm interested in putting an in

775
00:42:19.880 --> 00:42:23.920
<v Speaker 1>home simulator versus any other person that claims to be

776
00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:27.559
<v Speaker 1>doing golf simulated materials and setups.

777
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean, first and foremost kind of where we started, right,

778
00:42:31.079 --> 00:42:33.599
<v Speaker 2>the name on the door, the brand, the trust that

779
00:42:33.639 --> 00:42:36.159
<v Speaker 2>you have in us. It's a lot of the people

780
00:42:36.199 --> 00:42:38.119
<v Speaker 2>that are in this space. It's kind of more of

781
00:42:38.159 --> 00:42:40.840
<v Speaker 2>your one off shops that do just this. The way

782
00:42:40.840 --> 00:42:42.760
<v Speaker 2>I kind of equate it to is, would you rather

783
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<v Speaker 2>go to a car dealership, test drive the car, see

784
00:42:45.719 --> 00:42:48.960
<v Speaker 2>the car in person, open the doors, all that stuff,

785
00:42:49.079 --> 00:42:51.360
<v Speaker 2>or do you want to go online to carvon and

786
00:42:51.440 --> 00:42:53.360
<v Speaker 2>just have somebody come drop it off of your doorstep

787
00:42:53.400 --> 00:42:56.159
<v Speaker 2>and hopefully it's the exact car you wanted. I mean,

788
00:42:56.159 --> 00:42:59.480
<v Speaker 2>we are generally speaking talking at a reasonably higher end

789
00:42:59.679 --> 00:43:02.639
<v Speaker 2>price point for a product. Yeah, it starts at thirty

790
00:43:02.679 --> 00:43:04.920
<v Speaker 2>five hundred, but you know, as we said earlier, it's

791
00:43:04.960 --> 00:43:06.920
<v Speaker 2>easy that it could creep up and get a little

792
00:43:06.960 --> 00:43:10.000
<v Speaker 2>bit higher. So to have a trusted partner that you

793
00:43:10.039 --> 00:43:12.840
<v Speaker 2>can go to We're located in almost thirty states and

794
00:43:12.880 --> 00:43:16.199
<v Speaker 2>growing now, so hopefully it's located close enough to you

795
00:43:16.199 --> 00:43:18.480
<v Speaker 2>where you can actually go in person see the product,

796
00:43:18.559 --> 00:43:21.480
<v Speaker 2>feel the product. We're actually working right now by the

797
00:43:21.559 --> 00:43:23.480
<v Speaker 2>end of the year to be able to demo and

798
00:43:23.599 --> 00:43:26.559
<v Speaker 2>actually feel and see the end to end experience in

799
00:43:26.599 --> 00:43:29.559
<v Speaker 2>your home in our stores. So it gives you that

800
00:43:29.639 --> 00:43:32.679
<v Speaker 2>opportunity you talk to any of these players, including the

801
00:43:32.719 --> 00:43:35.960
<v Speaker 2>manufacturers of the Launch monitor. There's nowhere in the US

802
00:43:36.039 --> 00:43:38.119
<v Speaker 2>unless you've got a country club or something that might

803
00:43:38.199 --> 00:43:40.719
<v Speaker 2>have a build out where you're actually able to test

804
00:43:40.719 --> 00:43:42.760
<v Speaker 2>and demo like you do golf clubs in our store,

805
00:43:43.119 --> 00:43:46.199
<v Speaker 2>but for the simulator side of things. So we're really

806
00:43:46.239 --> 00:43:48.559
<v Speaker 2>excited about a lot what's coming. But I just start

807
00:43:48.599 --> 00:43:51.000
<v Speaker 2>first and foremost with the experience and service level in

808
00:43:51.000 --> 00:43:53.679
<v Speaker 2>our stores and the trusted partner on our doors. Hopefully

809
00:43:53.719 --> 00:43:56.559
<v Speaker 2>those two combined with there's no better place to go

810
00:43:56.679 --> 00:43:59.119
<v Speaker 2>for your high purchase needs like an inome zim.

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<v Speaker 1>Awesome, Ben, this has really been fascinating. I love to

812
00:44:04.079 --> 00:44:07.320
<v Speaker 1>get your insights as you were at TGL and hear

813
00:44:07.400 --> 00:44:10.119
<v Speaker 1>what was going on there, but learning more about how

814
00:44:10.159 --> 00:44:12.199
<v Speaker 1>to set up an in home simulator has been really

815
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<v Speaker 1>fascinating as well. I appreciate your time and your insights awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Prey Well, thank you for the time today. It's been fun.