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<v Speaker 1>Hey everybody, and welcome to Everything's Political. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Taya Shoemake. You can also find us online at Everything's

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<v Speaker 1>Political dot substack dot com. Shout out to Magicman Joe Strecker,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bruce Willis of podcast producers.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody likes you.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody hates you.

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<v Speaker 2>You gonna lose smile cough men.

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<v Speaker 1>I love his movies. Bruce Willis was born on this

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<v Speaker 1>day in nineteen fifty five. He is seventy years old.

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<v Speaker 1>A fellow Pisces.

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<v Speaker 3>Could I love him anymore?

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<v Speaker 1>And when I think of Bruce Willis, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think of others like Tom Selleck or Sam Elliott and

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<v Speaker 1>just men that evoke awesome traits. Right, we're gonna talk

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit about this today. Masculine traits are not

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<v Speaker 1>like those men I just mentioned. It's nothing that they

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<v Speaker 1>do in their movies, the action or the guns or

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<v Speaker 1>the fighting or any of that. It's a quiet strength,

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<v Speaker 1>the quiet comfortableness in one's own skin.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what they evoke.

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<v Speaker 1>Masculine traits are not toxic naturally now the way some

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<v Speaker 1>men use them. Sure, you could slap that label on it,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, but I could say the same thing about women.

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<v Speaker 3>Aren't we all about equity here, Joe.

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<v Speaker 1>Or is that really just a ruse, a political ruse.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a rhetorical question. So let's do this little tit

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<v Speaker 1>for tat no pun intended. We could say the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing about this toxic femininity, way too much of it

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<v Speaker 1>running this country. And because of the imbalance we have

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<v Speaker 1>a situation here. Western civilization is in peril on many

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<v Speaker 1>fronts our female trade. It's toxic generally in nature.

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<v Speaker 4>No, of course not.

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<v Speaker 3>We need them.

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<v Speaker 1>Society cannot survive without them. It's the way they're used

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<v Speaker 1>that is absolutely toxic. So keep that in mind when

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<v Speaker 1>someone says toxic masculinity bull crap, that's just feminism's ruse

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<v Speaker 1>to keep men down and edify women. And look, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the lie. There are several lies women bought into. And

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<v Speaker 1>the lie is that we have to tear down our

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<v Speaker 1>men in order to edify women. That's a lie, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to get into that today with our guest.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to talk to him about it, and

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully he'll help us assess the imbalance of male versus

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<v Speaker 1>female energy. Why we're not working together and supplementing we

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to replace men with women. We can't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Society cannot survive without that either. So let's talk to

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<v Speaker 1>him and Bruce take us out into this interview.

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<v Speaker 3>Will you be.

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<v Speaker 4>Same with us?

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<v Speaker 3>Today is Edward Bartlett.

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<v Speaker 1>He is the president of DAVIA, Domestic Abuse and Violence

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<v Speaker 1>International Alliance, and ed thank you so much for being

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<v Speaker 1>here this morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it is my pleasure to you, and yeah, I've

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<v Speaker 2>been looking forward to our discussion.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us about the mission of DAVIA first.

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<v Speaker 2>So the first piece of information here is that there

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<v Speaker 2>have been hundreds, literally hundreds and hundreds of studies on

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<v Speaker 2>domestic violence and who is the perpetrator, who's the victim?

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<v Speaker 2>If I told you that those studies consistently around the

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<v Speaker 2>world show that this is an equal opportunity problem. Men

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<v Speaker 2>are just as likely as women to be victims of

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<v Speaker 2>domestic violence. So our mission, the mission of the Domestic

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<v Speaker 2>Abuse and Violence International Alliance is that I'll just be

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<v Speaker 2>very candid with you. This has become a point in

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<v Speaker 2>the culture wars because feminists used this issue consistently to

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<v Speaker 2>stereotype and i'll say, vilify men as abusers. Not just

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<v Speaker 2>in this country, this is a global problem. So the

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<v Speaker 2>domestic use of violence International Alliance. We have one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and eighty members member organizations and sixty sixty eight countries

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<v Speaker 2>around the world, so we are very active. I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>I meant to say thirty eight countries around the world,

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<v Speaker 2>so we're very active internationally. We also do connect with

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<v Speaker 2>the Unitedations as well. Well.

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<v Speaker 3>We certainly need it.

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<v Speaker 1>This has been such a long time and just FYI,

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<v Speaker 1>I escaped feminism by the hair of my chinny chin chin,

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<v Speaker 1>by the grace of God. I should say, I've never

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<v Speaker 1>understood this manic pendulum shift, and I don't know when

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<v Speaker 1>it started. Maybe a good a question. A better question

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<v Speaker 1>to you is when did Davia form and when did

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<v Speaker 1>you all notice that the pendulum was shifting to the

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<v Speaker 1>dysfunctional side.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we have been noticing this misrepresentation of the truth

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<v Speaker 2>literally going back since nineteen ninety four. That's the year

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<v Speaker 2>that the US Violence Against Women Act was enacted at

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<v Speaker 2>the behest of our good friend Joe Biden, who was

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<v Speaker 2>champion on the Violence Against Women Act. So obviously, just

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<v Speaker 2>by the name itself, that tells you something about the bias,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's created a narrative it's become a very powerful narrative.

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<v Speaker 2>The narrative plays on people's emotions very powerfully. So Davia

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<v Speaker 2>was established three years ago to address this problem on

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<v Speaker 2>a global basis.

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<v Speaker 1>So what we said in the beginning, as I intro

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<v Speaker 1>the interview, you know, I believe there are no toxic

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<v Speaker 1>traits from men or women, rather how we use them,

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<v Speaker 1>and it is inequitable.

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<v Speaker 3>I love the way you put that, because.

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<v Speaker 1>For every time I hear, oh, that's toxic masculinity, I

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<v Speaker 1>can say the same thing for femininity. I can say

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<v Speaker 1>there are toxic feminine traits that are being used in

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<v Speaker 1>that manner. And so I agree that the narrative has

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<v Speaker 1>shaped our bias when we see a news story to

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<v Speaker 1>put the blame on the men. And what shocks me

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<v Speaker 1>is that there is this feminist death wish complex. Can

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<v Speaker 1>you enlighten us a little bit about that?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, absolutely yes, And that's actually the title of the

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<v Speaker 2>press release we put out earlier this week. It's the

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<v Speaker 2>full title is kill All Men, Revealing the Feminist death

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<v Speaker 2>wish Complex. So, of course feminists present themselves as being peaceful.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we're promoting you know, good, only good things,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, on and on and on. But when you

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<v Speaker 2>begin to scratch the surface, you begin to realize it's

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<v Speaker 2>not just that feminism is promoting an abortion on demand

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<v Speaker 2>around the world. The problems and the concerned with feminism

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<v Speaker 2>go much much deeper, and this is just one example

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<v Speaker 2>of those. So the press release was designed to educate

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<v Speaker 2>and alert people around the world that the feminist ideology

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<v Speaker 2>for years has been saying we need to kill all men.

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<v Speaker 2>And they don't say that in a joking or a

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<v Speaker 2>euphemistic way. Unfortunately, they really mean it. I'll just I'll

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<v Speaker 2>just give one example. In the United States, the former

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<v Speaker 2>deputy editor of huff Posts, Emily McCombs. This was one

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<v Speaker 2>of her tweets for New Year's Day resolutions. Quote cultivate

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<v Speaker 2>female friendships number two, band together to kill all men.

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<v Speaker 2>End quote. So you see these were exact words cropping

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<v Speaker 2>up over and over again. And if I may, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>give you just one more example. This is from a

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<v Speaker 2>law professor. Her name is Mary Ann Franks. She teaches

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<v Speaker 2>at George Washington University in Washington, d c. Quote. Get

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<v Speaker 2>ready for this quote. Society would be better off as

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<v Speaker 2>a whole if more women were willing to engage in

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<v Speaker 2>justified violence against men. To that end, women's justified violence

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<v Speaker 2>against men should be encouraged and publicized. End quote.

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<v Speaker 3>So they would like to legalize violence.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's so turned around. It's difficult to wrap

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<v Speaker 1>my head around the proclivity. And it's really indicative of

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<v Speaker 1>the leftist political ideology. If you don't agree with me,

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<v Speaker 1>I have the right to violence, where we see that everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a classical liberal in nature, right, I go back

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<v Speaker 1>to the founding values and principles. But this just seems

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<v Speaker 1>to be mental illness, and I'm trying to find the

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<v Speaker 1>origin of the narrative. Certainly the nineteen ninety four the

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<v Speaker 1>Act that you mentioned from Joe Biden, that had a

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<v Speaker 1>lot to do with it, but I think it starts

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<v Speaker 1>earlier than that. So what are some of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that we can do?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, first of all, I'll share with you I have

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<v Speaker 2>that same sense of is this really happening? Is this

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<v Speaker 2>really possible to be happening in the United States of

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<v Speaker 2>America or elsewhere in the globe. I shared that sense

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<v Speaker 2>of disbelief. But yes, you know, everything in this press

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<v Speaker 2>release has been referenced to links and so forth. I

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<v Speaker 2>think the key point to emphasize here feminism is based

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<v Speaker 2>on neo Marxist ideology. Anybody who's read about Marxism, you

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<v Speaker 2>know that this has been a disastrous ideology anywhere it's

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<v Speaker 2>been implemented. It's been said that one hundred million people

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<v Speaker 2>died at the hands of Marxist communist socialist ideology. We're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about unparalleled social calamities, human rights disasters. Again, it's

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<v Speaker 2>totally mind boggling. So when we realize that feminism is

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<v Speaker 2>based on neo Marxist ideology, and I can explain why

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to go down that road, but bottom

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<v Speaker 2>line is, when you look at the history of Marxism

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<v Speaker 2>in the past, you know, one hundred plus years, and

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<v Speaker 2>you see how disastrous and harmful it's been. In a way,

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<v Speaker 2>it is no surprise to now hear that feminists are

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<v Speaker 2>sort of talking the same destruct using the same destructive language,

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<v Speaker 2>devisive strategies to polarize male and female, to break up

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<v Speaker 2>the nuclear family, on and on a ghost.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we just answered part of the question is

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<v Speaker 1>part of what we can do is a better education system.

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<v Speaker 1>And boy, that's a whole other you know, topic, a

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<v Speaker 1>big umbrella. But people don't recognize the Marxism and they

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<v Speaker 1>don't recognize it because we're not taught Marxism in school.

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<v Speaker 3>I was taught.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't taught Marxism until college. And I think we

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<v Speaker 1>need to start a lot earlier than that. So part

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<v Speaker 1>of the solution is, in my opinion, could be, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we need to set examples, whether it's I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>can start with animal Farm, that's an eighth grade book.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start there, and you know, and then it just

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<v Speaker 1>keeps getting better. But so toward that end, could you

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<v Speaker 1>inform us please on the Marxist origins of feminism.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, certainly so. Karl Marx himself said, and these are

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<v Speaker 2>almost exact words. The nuclear family is oppressive to women.

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<v Speaker 2>Think about that. And so is it any surprise that

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<v Speaker 2>feminists have been pushing, for example, the transgender agenda, have

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<v Speaker 2>been pushing for no fault divorce, have been you know put,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean in so many different ways almost you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just an amazing way array the strategies to make

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<v Speaker 2>marriage and the family a less and less appealing lifestyle

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<v Speaker 2>options to too many Americans. So it's no surprise that

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<v Speaker 2>marriage rates have fallen in the US and globally, it's

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<v Speaker 2>no surprise that fertility rates in particular have plummeted in

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<v Speaker 2>the last twenty thirty years in the US and internationally.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you probably know the replacement rate, which is

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<v Speaker 2>the number of children per mother or per woman you

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<v Speaker 2>need to have to just maintain a stable population, is

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<v Speaker 2>two point one, right, which makes sense, of course. So

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<v Speaker 2>the United States, last I looked, we are at one

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<v Speaker 2>point six, so we're already caught in a downward spiral.

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<v Speaker 2>But who's talking about this fact that our civilization is

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<v Speaker 2>kind of disappearing before our very eyes. Who's say, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>nobody's talking about this like it's a crisis. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's a crisis that you know, our numbers are disappearing

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<v Speaker 2>before us. So this is just one outgrowth of this

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<v Speaker 2>ideology that you know, the family is an oppressive institution

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<v Speaker 2>to women. So I hope I haven't gone off too

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<v Speaker 2>much on a tangent here because there's so much this

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<v Speaker 2>is such a rich topic of discussion, But yes, this

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<v Speaker 2>is clearly rooted in Marxist ideology. There's a book titled

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<v Speaker 2>Read Feminism, Read Feminism, which I've read, written by a feminist.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll add that detailed description of the history from feminism

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<v Speaker 2>and showing how this is again based on Marxist ideology.

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<v Speaker 3>Again I don't understand.

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up in a fairly large Italian family, and

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<v Speaker 1>I remember being in second or third grade. The teacher

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<v Speaker 1>went around the room and asked what everybody wanted to be?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay and astronaut, doctor, so lots of great answers.

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<v Speaker 1>She got to me and I said I want to

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't articulate at this at the time because I

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<v Speaker 1>thinking is not in my family. I don't know where

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<v Speaker 1>you came from, sweetie, but in my family, the moms

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<v Speaker 1>are edified, and we don't have to tear down our

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to show you a book. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if you can see it on the camera. Yes, this

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<v Speaker 2>is titled End to the End of Women, How smashing

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<v Speaker 2>the patriarchy has destroyed us. This is written by a

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<v Speaker 2>a very powerful book because she basically making the point

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<v Speaker 2>that you just said is that feminism has driven women

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<v Speaker 2>away from their biological and from their call it their

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<v Speaker 2>biological and social identity to fulfill this Marxist you know,

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<v Speaker 2>this Marxist stereotype or Marxist dream. And I think you

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<v Speaker 2>is this mental illness? And the answer is yes, And

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<v Speaker 2>we know that scientifically. There is actually a study done

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<v Speaker 2>mental condition? All right? And ask to all ages and

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<v Speaker 2>races and so forth. Well, guess which group had fifty

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<v Speaker 2>six percent answered yes to that question? It was young

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<v Speaker 2>white females. Young white females, fifty six percent answered yes

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<v Speaker 2>to that question. Whereas if you look at all the

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<v Speaker 2>all the other groups were substance substantially lower than that

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<v Speaker 2>fifty six percent. So we really need to start scratching

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<v Speaker 2>our heads about what does it say when fifty six

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<v Speaker 2>percent of our young female population, of course they identify

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<v Speaker 2>as feminists. What does that say about, you know, colleges?

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<v Speaker 2>What does that say about our society, and you know

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<v Speaker 2>why why people seek some people have a lot of trouble,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, having a having a thoughtful logical discussion like

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that would mean you would you would have to

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<v Speaker 3>I mean feminism to me, and I've.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been on this crusade to change the definition of

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to change the definition.

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<v Speaker 1>Feminism to me is when a woman is fully comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>in their own skin for everything they are and everything

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<v Speaker 1>they're not. Right in biblical terms, and men we would

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<v Speaker 1>call it meek, that quiet strength, that quiet confidence, and

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<v Speaker 1>yet can step outside to defend if they need to defend,

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<v Speaker 1>provide when they need to provide, et cetera. Right, those

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<v Speaker 1>are those are the roles that built Western civilization. It's

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<v Speaker 1>and guess what that's okay, And I'm sure it's in

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<v Speaker 1>the minority. And you might know this the percentages. Some

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<v Speaker 1>people will say, but what about all the male abusers

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<v Speaker 1>that do use their traits in a negative way, And

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<v Speaker 1>your numbers are saying that's really not the minority.

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<v Speaker 3>Would that be accurate?

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, the Centers for Disease Control, which does very good

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<v Speaker 2>surveys on this issue. They find that actually each year

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<v Speaker 2>there's slightly more male victims of physical domestic violence each

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<v Speaker 2>year than female victims. So yeah, I mean scientifically, this

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<v Speaker 2>is not an arguable point. It's just known and again

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<v Speaker 2>not just the US, other countries as well. So we

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<v Speaker 2>do have a mental health crisis. We do have a

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<v Speaker 2>crisis of identity. And I ascribe a lot of this

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<v Speaker 2>to the Marxist vision. Again, so when you and I

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<v Speaker 2>say equality or gender equality, our thinking is equal rights, right,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what the Fourteenth Amendment is about, equal rights. No,

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<v Speaker 2>the Marxist thinking is uniform outcomes. When they say gender equality,

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<v Speaker 2>the uniform outcome meaning you would have the same proportion

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<v Speaker 2>of male and female lawmakers. Now, they never talk about

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<v Speaker 2>male and female truck drivers, or male and female electricians,

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<v Speaker 2>or male and female deep deep minors where you know,

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<v Speaker 2>which are very different, a very you know, like these

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<v Speaker 2>are often life threatening occupations. So they don't think they're

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<v Speaker 2>not thinking of that. But again that that's the Marxist mindset.

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<v Speaker 2>When you change the basic concept of gender equality into uniform.

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<v Speaker 1>Outcomes, and we do that with everything because you know

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<v Speaker 1>Marx is pervasive now, but again no one recognizes it. Interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>so let me ask you this, and in this equation

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<v Speaker 1>of solutions, what is your suggestion to men.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's a great question, and I think I have

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<v Speaker 2>a good answer for you. So I would have two

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<v Speaker 2>points of advice, especially to your male listeners. First of all,

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<v Speaker 2>be proud of your masculinity. That's God given, and you

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<v Speaker 2>know that's just inherently that's something good. The second point

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<v Speaker 2>I would I would say, is more specific to the

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<v Speaker 2>point you're raising, is speak the truth and always speak

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<v Speaker 2>the truth. Don't be afraid to speak the truth. So

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<v Speaker 2>when I, for example, when we go to the United

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<v Speaker 2>Nations and meet with missions from different countries, we always

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<v Speaker 2>talk about the research shows domestic violence is an equal

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity problem, and if you want, I'll show you all

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<v Speaker 2>the studies. Okay, so we're right up front about that.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't don't hide that. But let me if I

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<v Speaker 2>can go beyond that. And this is just very timely

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<v Speaker 2>because just last week we were in New York City,

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<v Speaker 2>we released a what we believe is a historic document

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<v Speaker 2>called the Declaration for Men in book, the New York

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<v Speaker 2>Declaration for Men and Boys, let's call it. This is

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<v Speaker 2>the fulfillment of the Beijing Declaration. Do you remember that

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<v Speaker 2>Beijing Declaration that came out thirty years ago as a

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<v Speaker 2>cornerstone of women's rights, And I've read through it and

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<v Speaker 2>over and over again. It talks about gender equality. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>so we know that in fact, men are lagging in

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<v Speaker 2>twelve different areas like education, lifespan partire treatment by the

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<v Speaker 2>legal system, homelessness, and the list goes on and on.

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<v Speaker 2>But those issues are simply for boting. They're simply it's

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<v Speaker 2>like they don't even exist. When you go to the

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<v Speaker 2>in the US, the issues are just don't exist. So

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<v Speaker 2>we put together this is called the New York Declaration

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<v Speaker 2>for Men and Boys, which is designed as a fulfillment

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<v Speaker 2>of the Beijing Declaration that again talked repeatedly about gender equality.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is the other side of gender equality that's

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<v Speaker 2>been ignored for the past thirty years. So to answer

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<v Speaker 2>your question a little bit more directly, we have this

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<v Speaker 2>this declaration. It's posted on the internet again, it's called

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<v Speaker 2>the New York Declaration for Men and Boys. It just

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<v Speaker 2>came out last week. We're publicizing it because we think

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<v Speaker 2>this is historic. We think is this will change the narrative.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you've heard, you know the phrase the men

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<v Speaker 2>have all the power oppressive patriarchy. Well, we have just

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<v Speaker 2>shown by facts and figures, by speaking the truth, there

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<v Speaker 2>is no sense thing as the patriarchy. I mean, if

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<v Speaker 2>there really was a patriarchy, how is it they would

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<v Speaker 2>allow men to be dying five years earlier than women.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, on and on and on. It's just nonsensical.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is sort of our latest development to address

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<v Speaker 1>That is fantastic New York Declaration of Men and Boys.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and that's on. Is that on? You all have

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<v Speaker 2>We actually have a partner organization called the International Council

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<v Speaker 2>for Men and Boys, and it's on the website of

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<v Speaker 2>the International Council for Men and Boys.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, thank you for that.

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<v Speaker 1>I will absolutely print that out and I'm sure I'll

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<v Speaker 1>have occasion to read it often. Let me ask you this,

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<v Speaker 1>how receptive is the UN to your efforts.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we have had face meetings to this point with

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<v Speaker 2>I think twelve or fourteen missions, including countries in Africa

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<v Speaker 2>and Europe. And I'll tell you. The most interesting was

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<v Speaker 2>our meetings with the US Mission and the Russian mission,

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<v Speaker 2>and we met with them, of course separate meetings, but

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<v Speaker 2>by coincidence on the same day. They were both very

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<v Speaker 2>receptive and really interested in what I'm telling you. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>we told to those staffers, both the US staffers and

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<v Speaker 2>the Russian staffers, and we were just we were I'll

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<v Speaker 2>be honest, we were blown away by the very positive response,

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<v Speaker 2>but from other missions as well. So you know, we've

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<v Speaker 2>been asked to come back. And just last week we

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<v Speaker 2>were in New York again, I told you, and we

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<v Speaker 2>had meetings with the director of gender for a Caribbean

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<v Speaker 2>island called Antigua and Barbuda, and they were extremely interested

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<v Speaker 2>in what we were saying and saying, yes, we've been

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<v Speaker 2>We've needed to have this kind of versations for a

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's fantastic. I'm so grateful for you all. Well, look,

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<v Speaker 1>society's kind of like China's policy about no girls, right

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<v Speaker 1>we have to abort all the baby. Well they've seen

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<v Speaker 1>consequences for that right now. This maybe has taken a

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<v Speaker 1>little longer, but I feel like we're finally seeing the

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<v Speaker 1>consequences of the fact that we're not just not letting

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<v Speaker 1>men be men, right, that's bad enough. That's denying them

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<v Speaker 1>the same rights that the feminists want. That's what's so

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<v Speaker 1>ironic about it is that the women are doing the

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<v Speaker 1>very thing of which they're accusing the men.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Sawlensky on one. Whether they know that or not

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<v Speaker 1>is a different question.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you hear about the this is just the news

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<v Speaker 2>yesterday the hospital in New Jersey that after an infant

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<v Speaker 2>is delivered literally within hours, they go to the parents saying,

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<v Speaker 2>is your infant transgender? Is? I mean, this defies credibility

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<v Speaker 2>or believability, but this is actually happening in the New

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<v Speaker 2>Jersey hospital. But I mentioned that now because this is

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<v Speaker 2>the transgender agenda is designed to separate children from their

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<v Speaker 2>own parents. And that's that's just a perfect example of

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<v Speaker 2>trying to basically condition the parents that think, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe my five hour child is lesbian. Right, Really, that

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<v Speaker 1>To your point, it defies logic and belief, absolutely nuts.

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<v Speaker 1>The you know you mentioned the LGBTQ. Ironically, an ancillary

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<v Speaker 1>effect of that is well to that book The End

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<v Speaker 1>of Women, you know, because now all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>anybody can be a woman, And I've said that about

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<v Speaker 1>political things. But in the past, where if everybody's a Nazi,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody's a Nazi. If everyone's a racist, nobody's right. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>so if anybody can be a woman, how degrading to

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<v Speaker 1>a woman is that? I mean, I take such offense

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<v Speaker 1>at that, because again we're equally different. But I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to bring up there was a book by Nora Vincent,

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<v Speaker 1>with men, right bars, conventions, et cetera. She wrote a

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<v Speaker 1>book I can't remember the name of it, but at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the day she came up with the

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<v Speaker 1>conclusion that, you know what, men aren't so bad. But

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<v Speaker 1>she went into it totally snowed and totally against men,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's going to prove that men are just scoundrels

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<v Speaker 1>and they're out there on the prow and all of

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<v Speaker 1>this other stuff. And she came out at the end, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>men aren't so bad, but women.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So it's always.

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<v Speaker 1>Crazy any suggestions that as far as you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the political penna, even the cultural pendulum, it shifts. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>it never shifts to the middle or never. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it always seems to be one or the other extreme.

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<v Speaker 3>What is your outlook for this?

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<v Speaker 2>So I follow these issues not just in the US,

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<v Speaker 2>but internationally, and I'll just mention in Britain, in the

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<v Speaker 2>United Kingdom, I'm seeing a growing polarization of the sexes.

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<v Speaker 2>More and more words like misogynists are being used, not

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<v Speaker 2>just sort of in private conversations, but are being used

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<v Speaker 2>by government officials to say, we have an epidemic of misogyny.

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<v Speaker 2>But you read the so called report, No there's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there may be a couple anecdotal examples, but of course

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<v Speaker 2>there's no widespread epidemic of misogyny. Some would say, but

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<v Speaker 2>there isn't an epic epidemic of mass which of course

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<v Speaker 2>is the opposite. And since this press release we were

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<v Speaker 2>talking about a few minutes ago about kill all men,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of suggest well, is that pretty hateful for a

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<v Speaker 2>group of women to be advocating to kill all men?

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, but the point I'm trying to make is

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<v Speaker 2>in the short term, at least in some countries, I

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<v Speaker 2>am worried about a growing polarization and vilification of men.

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<v Speaker 2>And I see these very hurtful, really and unfair, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just not scientifically based words being thrown out there as

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<v Speaker 2>if they're the the you know, the utter truth. So

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know about the US. I'm far more optimistic

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<v Speaker 2>for the US, just because, as you know, DEI, diversity

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<v Speaker 2>equity inclusion programs have been banned in the federal government.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, those programs are overtly discriminatory against white men,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I think we are seeing movement in the

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<v Speaker 2>right direction overall in the US. You may have heard

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<v Speaker 2>jd Vance at the recent SEAPAC conference here at Washingfield

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<v Speaker 2>and Washington, d C. He spoke us specifically two men saying,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, young men, you know, don't be troubled by

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<v Speaker 2>these these negative stereotypes that are being floated out there.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not fair. And he actually said, we're looking at

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<v Speaker 2>policy approaches to erectify this. So to answer your question,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it depends very much on the specific country,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's partly why we do these press releases to

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<v Speaker 2>sort of put out the other side of the story

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<v Speaker 2>that you know is not as widely publicized. But again,

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<v Speaker 2>everything we say we document with citations and links URL links.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, at some point and I do, because

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<v Speaker 1>we have freedom of expression here, freedom.

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<v Speaker 3>Of speech, well you know all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>The backlash I think can be more immediate between you

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<v Speaker 1>and I.

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<v Speaker 3>My listeners know this. I've been accused of being a misogynist.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh congratulations, even as a woman, right.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's just it's simply as a counteract to the

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<v Speaker 1>ridiculous nature of things going on. It's just like hard

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<v Speaker 1>to comprehend. But at some point there has to be

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<v Speaker 1>a backlash of not just men kind of defending themselves

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<v Speaker 1>speaking truth to your point, but women. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>defend the men in my life who I love, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's a great thing, and I think that

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<v Speaker 1>can happen in this country. But I think the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that the most malign creatures nowadays, and I think this

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<v Speaker 1>is worldwide, is are the white males. I would contend,

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<v Speaker 1>although I don't have figures to back this up, that

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<v Speaker 1>second only to them would our stay at home moms.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, if I could put this an international perspective,

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<v Speaker 2>I think if we were to go to Israel, we

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<v Speaker 2>would clearly see that there is this overt hostility of

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<v Speaker 2>between Hamas and Israelis, and and I would say it's

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<v Speaker 2>more than hostility, it's a vert hatred. And why is that? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>once again the Israel has been portrayed as the quote oppressors.

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<v Speaker 2>Does that sound like a familiar Marxist term, and the

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<v Speaker 2>and the people in hamas sort of pigeonholed as the oppressed.

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<v Speaker 2>So once again we see this Marxist duality being uh

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<v Speaker 2>uh promoted there in some countries, Christians are under a

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<v Speaker 2>great deal of attack as well. But again Christians are

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<v Speaker 2>seen as the you know, as the oppressor ideology or

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<v Speaker 2>oppress or religion. Yeah, I know. So, so we're we're

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<v Speaker 2>facing a global Marxist ideology around the world, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's all about divide and conquer.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yes, I mean the fact that Christians go into

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<v Speaker 1>other countries and try to help, and yet they're the oppressors.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>But because you know, history, the revisionist history tells us

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<v Speaker 1>something different.

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<v Speaker 3>They seek out the right there sought out as the

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<v Speaker 3>bad guys.

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<v Speaker 2>But if I can go back to this New York

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<v Speaker 2>Declaration for Men and Boys that we released just last week,

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<v Speaker 2>we have found that our strongest supporters are women. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and well it's not just because women have you know, husbands,

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<v Speaker 2>and brothers and sons, and so I think it goes

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<v Speaker 2>beyond that. I think there's a sense of hey, we're

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<v Speaker 2>all in this boat together, we sink or swim together,

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<v Speaker 2>and we have to reach out. And actually, I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to read a quote for you know. We actually on

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<v Speaker 2>our website we have a couple of quotes. This is

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<v Speaker 2>from a woman named Lynn Crabtree who lives in England,

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<v Speaker 2>and i'll quote we hereby express our unequivocal support for

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<v Speaker 2>the New York Declaration for Men and Boys and it's

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<v Speaker 2>mission to promote fairness, equity and justice for all. So

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<v Speaker 2>and there's been other very nice quotes like that. So

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<v Speaker 2>the point I'm making is we see this New York

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<v Speaker 2>Declaration for Men and Boys as a building block or

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<v Speaker 2>a bridge between the sexes because women so much identify

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<v Speaker 2>with these principles. It is the it is the fulfillment

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<v Speaker 2>of the Beijing Declaration, and it's and we're affirming the

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<v Speaker 2>conceptive gender equality. We're just not going with the Marxist

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<v Speaker 2>idea Marxist vision of what gender equality is supposed to mean.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's instructive just for our listeners. When you

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<v Speaker 1>see the the narrative go oppressor and victim, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>dive into that. Don't just believe what you hear, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>unearth the context behind it or under it, to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure what validity remains and what doesn't. Ed I could

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<v Speaker 1>talk to you for three days, and I I so

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate what you guys are doing. And I think I

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<v Speaker 1>think more women than we know would agree with miss

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<v Speaker 1>Crabtree because it's consistent and that's okay.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, that works.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I'd say it's not only okay, I'd say,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, viva la difidants. I mean, this is wonderful.

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<v Speaker 2>This is this is what brings spark to life and

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<v Speaker 2>makes life. You know, it just enriches our experience as

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<v Speaker 2>human means.

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<v Speaker 1>Edward Bartlett, I can't thank you enough for being with

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<v Speaker 1>us today.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just been such a joy and pleasure. Davia.

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<v Speaker 1>In the the can you give us the name of

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<v Speaker 1>the parent company again?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure? So that it's the Domestic Abuse and Violence International Alliance, DAVIA,

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<v Speaker 2>and our partner organization is the International Council for Men

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<v Speaker 2>and Boys. Web address www dot Menandboys dot net.

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<v Speaker 3>That is easy enough. We will refer to that. We'll

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<v Speaker 3>put it on the website.

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<v Speaker 1>And we will drive as much traffic and promotion to

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<v Speaker 1>your cause and Dobby's cause as we possibly can.

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<v Speaker 2>Greatly appreciate it, and I really enjoyed the conversation as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so excited that this group exists, Joe, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>tell you because this has been brewing for a long time.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree with him.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a crisis, you know, in this in this culture

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<v Speaker 1>of logical fallacy speak, where we make these sweeping generalizations

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<v Speaker 1>that because one guy did something bad one day, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we all men suck. That's not true, and

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<v Speaker 1>we have done such a disservice to not just young men.

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<v Speaker 1>That's bad enough, because again we are I say women.

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<v Speaker 1>We they whatever the feminists are doing to the men,

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<v Speaker 1>what they think has been done to them. Now there

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<v Speaker 1>are outliers that everywhere. But the sweeping generalization crap has

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<v Speaker 1>got to stop because it is a crisis. Western civilization

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<v Speaker 1>will end when men end. You may not like it,

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<v Speaker 1>you may wish it were different, but that's the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>And you guys have heard me say we need to

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<v Speaker 1>step in front of our men when they are attacked.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I don't like that either, because I think men

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<v Speaker 1>step up when any kind of attack occurs, but we

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<v Speaker 1>need to help them do it, in my opinion, with

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<v Speaker 1>the men you love, and maybe with the men that

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<v Speaker 1>you don't, we've.

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<v Speaker 3>Got to stop this.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's pervasive, and to his point, it's just another

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<v Speaker 1>step of the cultural Marxism that has fractured society, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's ruined many a men. I mean, just look at

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<v Speaker 1>the Daniel Penny incident, Joe. He was protecting people, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a man's natural instinct against an aggressor. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>a man does. Nothing wrong with that. You want to

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<v Speaker 1>look at the circumstances, fine, but Daniel Penny was not

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<v Speaker 1>the aggressor there. He was protecting others against an aggressor.

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<v Speaker 1>And every woman on that train was grateful. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what woman wasn't grateful the woman on the Pennsylvania train

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<v Speaker 1>who was raped while men flipped out their fricking cameras

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<v Speaker 1>and videotaped it. Because guess what, that was the start

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<v Speaker 1>of the slippery slope? Ladies, are you going to jump

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<v Speaker 1>into that situation. I'd like to think I would have

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<v Speaker 1>tried something that I would have likely gotten hurt.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know what, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't just sit there and watch that so very excited

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<v Speaker 1>for DAVIA again Domestic Abuse and Violence International Alliance, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're recently coined New York Declaration of Men and Boys.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it. Let's do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's allow men to be who they were created to be,

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<v Speaker 1>just like we want to be who we were created

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<v Speaker 1>to be.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, that's consistent. Okay, I'm going to stop there, because

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<v Speaker 3>I would just go on forever.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to thank you all for listening. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>as always to magic Man Joe Strecker. Until next time,

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<v Speaker 1>who will stand at either hand and keep the bridge

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<v Speaker 1>with me?

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<v Speaker 3>Have a great day.
