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<v Speaker 1>It's Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm w BZY Boston's Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, thanks very much, Dan Watkins. As we move

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<v Speaker 2>into our first talk hour of the week, we had

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<v Speaker 2>a guest scheduled for tonight. Who's going to join us

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<v Speaker 2>tomorrow night. I'm a little disappointed, but suffice it to

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<v Speaker 2>say there were some travel issues, and tomorrow night, I

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<v Speaker 2>think all of you will be really enjoy my guest,

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<v Speaker 2>Boston Attorney James Roosevelt. Jim Roosevelt, who I've known for

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<v Speaker 2>a long time. He is a lifelong Democrat, the grandson

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<v Speaker 2>of the late great President Franklin Delano Roosevelt, who actually

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<v Speaker 2>signed the Social Security Act into law back in nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>thirty five at the height of the Great Depression. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>Jim Roosevelt has served as an Associate Commissioner of the

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<v Speaker 2>Social Security Administration during the Clinton administration in the nineteen nineties.

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<v Speaker 2>And we'll see what his perspective on this is. There

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<v Speaker 2>was a great piece today, I thought in the Boston Globe,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think you know all of you know that

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<v Speaker 2>there are days in the Globe when I'm not as

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<v Speaker 2>thrilled with it as normal. But Sean Murphy wrote, I

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<v Speaker 2>thought a really great piece today on the Business Section,

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<v Speaker 2>front page of the Business Section, which is the D section,

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<v Speaker 2>digging into social security, and Sean dealt with some of

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<v Speaker 2>the concerns that people have with sole security and a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of it is really interesting to me. And I

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<v Speaker 2>just want to hit a couple of the highlights from

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<v Speaker 2>Seawan's article, and I'd like to invite a conversation. Know

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<v Speaker 2>that there's a lot of people who are trying to

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<v Speaker 2>raise this as a political issue. I don't see it

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<v Speaker 2>as a political issue, nor should it be a political issue.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what success Elon Musk and his band

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<v Speaker 2>of merry people will have. I do know that Musk

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<v Speaker 2>was at an event yesterday in Wisconsin. There's a fairly

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<v Speaker 2>heated political race going on in Wisconsin, and Elon Musk

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<v Speaker 2>made some comments, and we have some of those comments

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<v Speaker 2>which which we're more than happy to share with you

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<v Speaker 2>to get the conversation going. We also have some some

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<v Speaker 2>other articles which which again we can we can get to.

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<v Speaker 2>So for example, Musk yesterday, we're I here, yeah, let

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<v Speaker 2>me this was Elon Musk yesterday talking about well this

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<v Speaker 2>is this is Musk cut number twenty two and before

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<v Speaker 2>before we go to that. Let me let me just

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<v Speaker 2>say this Social Security I have a view of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Some people call it an entitlement program. I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>an entitlement program at one level. But it's also a

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<v Speaker 2>contract between people like me and you. I'm taking SO

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<v Speaker 2>Security benefits, uh, because they spent my entire life contributing

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<v Speaker 2>to Social Security and through SO Security to medicure and

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<v Speaker 2>all of that has accounted for, you know, tens of thousands,

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<v Speaker 2>if not hundreds of thousands of dollars. If you look

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<v Speaker 2>at your paychecks, h or if you look at your

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<v Speaker 2>your your W two's, or if you keep your W

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<v Speaker 2>twos from you years past. Uh, if you are on

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<v Speaker 2>Social Security, that's a contract. Uh. It's not a contract

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<v Speaker 2>like signed by a baseball player or a movie star.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a contract or that the union head signs on

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<v Speaker 2>behalf of a union. It's a contract that exists between you,

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<v Speaker 2>an employee who has paid your taxes and has contributed

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<v Speaker 2>to this SO security system. And the contract essentially says this, look,

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<v Speaker 2>you contribute during your working life. Now there are others

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<v Speaker 2>who will benefit from it, and Sean Murphy, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>certainly talks about those today. You know, individuals who find

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<v Speaker 2>themselves being disabled, they can benefit from social security. Children

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<v Speaker 2>of people who have passed away early, they can contribute.

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<v Speaker 2>They can benefit from social security. But when you think

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<v Speaker 2>of people with you know, people with disabilities, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 2>So we can we get all of that, okay u.

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<v Speaker 2>But the backbone of social security is the money that

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<v Speaker 2>working Americans had paid. Now, when so security first started

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen thirty five and people were eligible in nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>thirty five to retire it, I assume it was the

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<v Speaker 2>age of sixty five. There weren't a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>making into the age of sixty five. Life expectancies were

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<v Speaker 2>a lot shorter than in this country. But those who

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<v Speaker 2>did make it were able to take get a SOB

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<v Speaker 2>security check. It wasn't a big check, but it was something,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly in the midst of the Great Depression that eventually,

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<v Speaker 2>I think historians would argue, and maybe I would argue,

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<v Speaker 2>was the Depression was ended sadly by the onset of

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<v Speaker 2>World War I two. But that story for another day.

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<v Speaker 2>So those of us who baby boomers who are now

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<v Speaker 2>coming into the security system, we've paid in a long

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<v Speaker 2>long time. You have to pay in for the equivalent

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<v Speaker 2>of ten years four quarters. Okay, I think everybody knows that. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're somebody who is in a different category and

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<v Speaker 2>you have disabilities, yeah you're gonna be You're gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>taken care of by SO Security. Again, you're not going

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<v Speaker 2>to become a millionaire. I don't think there's anyone who

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<v Speaker 2>thinks that. But at least you won't be out on

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<v Speaker 2>the street, you know, in lines looking looking for apples.

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<v Speaker 2>So I view it as a contract, and if you've

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<v Speaker 2>paid into it, yeah, you your benefits should not and

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<v Speaker 2>will not be cut. This is what Elon Musk said yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>Cut number twenty two, Please rob cut number twenty two.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess it'll be helpful because so I just stated

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<v Speaker 3>as crisply and clearly as possible that those will well

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely ensure that people get their Social Security, make sure

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<v Speaker 3>they get the Social Security, make sure they get the Medicaid,

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<v Speaker 3>and will not be cutting any legitimate payments whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 4>Crystal Claire, Yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean, look, SO Security third rail of American politics. Whenever

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<v Speaker 2>a politician has said that he or she wants to

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<v Speaker 2>cut Social Security, they lose a lot of very reliable

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<v Speaker 2>and dependent and dependable voters. Okay, do I think that

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<v Speaker 2>they may raise, as they have in the past, raise

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<v Speaker 2>through time and age for so security by a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of months. Yeah, yeah, they could happen. Do I think

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<v Speaker 2>that there could be some other things that are done

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<v Speaker 2>around the margins? Maybe? Maybe, But I just think that

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<v Speaker 2>to whip people into a frenzy on this is unfair.

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<v Speaker 2>Now there will be again if you haven't had a

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<v Speaker 2>chance to look at the column written by Sean Murphy,

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<v Speaker 2>who does a great job. He talks about there will

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<v Speaker 2>be an effort to make people get an identification verification process. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>that's if we want to keep the system solvent. I

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<v Speaker 2>think we got to go through that, and there has

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<v Speaker 2>to be a way in which organizations and communities can

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<v Speaker 2>help citizens who do not have access to the internet

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<v Speaker 2>to do that. In the column today he talks about that,

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<v Speaker 2>talks about a number of things. I just want to

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<v Speaker 2>open up the conversation if you have a concern or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Sean Murphy has laid it out and I

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<v Speaker 2>want to give him every credit for having done this,

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<v Speaker 2>because we're going to quote from his column and tomorrow

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<v Speaker 2>we'll have Jim Roosevelt with us at nine o'clock. But

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<v Speaker 2>in the meantime, it's me in you six one, seven, two, five,

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<v Speaker 2>four ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>Raise a question. I'll try to give you a straight answer.

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<v Speaker 2>If I can't give you a straight answer, I'll tell

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<v Speaker 2>you I don't know the answer and we'll be able

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<v Speaker 2>to pick it up tomorrow Night with Jim Roosevelt. Social Security. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>let's not freak people out. People who are on SO

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<v Speaker 2>security and who are depending upon SO security. We're all

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<v Speaker 2>dealing with increased prices, and we have been dealing with

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<v Speaker 2>increased prices for a couple of years now dramatically. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So let's let's try to calm some people down. And

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to join the conversation, your SO security

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<v Speaker 2>check next month will arrive in April, it will arrive

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<v Speaker 2>in May, It'll arrive in June, July, August, and September,

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<v Speaker 2>and there won't be reductions, and there will be a

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<v Speaker 2>col increase, a cost of living adjustment next next October.

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<v Speaker 2>Will there be some economies affected, Yes, some offices closed, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>some employees laid off. Yes, join the conversation. My name

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<v Speaker 2>is Dan Ray and this is Nights. I'd love to

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<v Speaker 2>have you join us.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Night Side with Dan Ray Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're talking about social security and I'd like to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about it in a rational way in which people

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<v Speaker 2>are not And again I highly recommend reading Sean Murphy's

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<v Speaker 2>piece in the Boston Globe today. I thought it was

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<v Speaker 2>very clear you're going to have to probably at some point,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're going to become a new soci security recipient,

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<v Speaker 2>your identification is going to have to be verified. Now again,

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<v Speaker 2>they have made some exceptions for people pop who are

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<v Speaker 2>elderly or are disabled. They still be able. It says

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<v Speaker 2>some current recipients may be able to do so without

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<v Speaker 2>verifying their identity by using their banks automatic enrollment service.

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<v Speaker 2>When this identification verified, identity verification required. According to Sean Murphy,

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<v Speaker 2>when you first apply for your benefit, you must verify

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<v Speaker 2>your identity. That's not new, and of course makes perfect sense.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're a current recipient, you may have to verify

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<v Speaker 2>your identity if you change your direct deposit banking information.

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<v Speaker 2>Some current recipients, however, may be able to do so

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<v Speaker 2>without verifying their identity by using their banks automatic enrollment service.

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<v Speaker 2>So again, all of this, I think all of this

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be Okay. The goal here is to

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<v Speaker 2>eliminate people who might be receiving Social Security benefits inappropriately.

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<v Speaker 2>If feel like join a conversation, feel free six point

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<v Speaker 2>seven two five thirty or six one seven thirty, then

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<v Speaker 2>first this hour on nights side. Welcome.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't dan. I'm surprised social Security is lostes this long.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, but then maybe it's moument. And you mentioned

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<v Speaker 5>court the age. The age goes up months at a time.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm probably wrong in this situation, but I understand

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<v Speaker 5>you pay social Security if you work forty, if stay

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<v Speaker 5>fifty forty sixty grand a year or whatever. But if

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<v Speaker 5>it may have over one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars,

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<v Speaker 5>they don't take any more social Security audio only. That

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<v Speaker 5>doesn't make sense. Why don't we raise that amount of

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<v Speaker 5>you know, try that if you wake one hundred seventy

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<v Speaker 5>five thousand dollars a year, you pay those security taxes

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<v Speaker 5>on the one five to the one seventy five.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, well that's something that Congress could certainly do,

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<v Speaker 2>and what Congress has done in the past. Social Security

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<v Speaker 2>for many many years was capped at a certain level,

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<v Speaker 2>and then as inflation kind of came along. In the

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighties, they there was a big so Security Reform

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<v Speaker 2>Act with Ronald Reagan and Tip O'Neil, and one of

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<v Speaker 2>the things is they did raise the cap a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>so security recipients now are paying Medicare tax. There comes

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<v Speaker 2>a point in time where the tax has become unreasonable.

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<v Speaker 2>So security has been funded. It's gonna it's it's solvent.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe through at this point twenty thirty four, they

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they have enough money. And sometimes what you

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<v Speaker 2>have to do is look at it and say, they're

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<v Speaker 2>never going to raise the retirement aged at like seventy

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<v Speaker 2>five or eighty. So don't worry about that, Okay, I

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<v Speaker 2>think right now, and I could be wrong. I see

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<v Speaker 2>them to be correct that I don't have it in

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<v Speaker 2>front of me. I think it's like sixty seven or

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<v Speaker 2>sixty six and ten months or something thing like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But Americans are living longer, so that's one thing you

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<v Speaker 2>can you could raise. You could say, anybody that makes

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<v Speaker 2>more than a million dollars a year, let's take all

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<v Speaker 2>of their excess money and and and and can make

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<v Speaker 2>make it contributed to social security. I don't think that

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<v Speaker 2>Congress has the stomach for that, and I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>the American people do either.

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<v Speaker 5>How many people may go over one hundred twenty year,

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<v Speaker 2>There are a lot of people. Well, let me ask

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<v Speaker 2>sporting event on television like a basketball, hockey, football, or

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<v Speaker 2>a baseball game, every one of those individuals making more

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<v Speaker 2>than a half a million. I think the major league

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<v Speaker 2>minimum now is somewhere around six hundred thousand dollars, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's the lowest minimum in the country. So you can

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<v Speaker 2>take all the pro athletes, I mean, but you can't

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<v Speaker 2>do that. You can't say we're going to tax all

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<v Speaker 2>the pro athletes everything in excess.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you'll you'll be Okay, how old do you feel.

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<v Speaker 5>For this way? I was. I was in Latin school

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<v Speaker 5>and yet the time you were going there.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, are you retired?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you getting so security?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you mean?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>You either you are? You are? Did you work? Did

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<v Speaker 2>you to get Social Security as a retirement? You have

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<v Speaker 2>to work what they call ten quarters? It worked forty quarters?

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<v Speaker 2>Excuse me, basically contribute for ten years. I assume you did.

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<v Speaker 4>That right, Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, And did you did you get an increase

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<v Speaker 2>in your SO security a couple of years ago when

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<v Speaker 2>inflation was running in about nine percent?

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<v Speaker 5>I work a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you've got a big increase. You get it. You

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<v Speaker 2>get a nine percent increase, whether you know it or not.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, you know. So.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's okay, You've got to be okay. I

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<v Speaker 2>just I think a lot of people are worrying about this,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I do you do you think there's any

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<v Speaker 2>fraud in social security?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, I don't want to see quarter on the I

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<v Speaker 5>mean yeah, I would think those fraud and everything else. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So if they can find some fraud and get rid

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<v Speaker 2>of it, you know, I want to see the proof.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't get me wrong, but I think that Hey, let's

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<v Speaker 2>see what happens. I am not worried about them taking

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<v Speaker 2>my SO security check away, and you shouldn't either, though.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, No, First of all, did thank you for talking

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<v Speaker 5>to me. I'll let you go one lo comment you

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<v Speaker 5>said it wouldn't it be? Just man, I don't want

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<v Speaker 5>to confuse the issue. If you make one hundred and

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<v Speaker 5>twenty five thousand dollars, Yeah, there's a cutoff perviot here. Well,

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<v Speaker 5>you can make a hound. They don't touch one of those.

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<v Speaker 5>Every said they don't tach within in a month. But

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<v Speaker 5>shouldn't that be kind of I don't even a congos,

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<v Speaker 5>and I don't want to keep feeding myself, but shouldn't

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<v Speaker 5>that be kind of a little I have one thing

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<v Speaker 5>between the age and you know, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Guess they'll they'll raise that up a little bit. That's

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<v Speaker 2>going to get raised up. But if you're making one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and twenty five thousand dollars and all of a

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<v Speaker 2>sudden you make one hundred and fifty thousand dollars, you

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<v Speaker 2>know your federal taxes are going to probably whack you

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<v Speaker 2>for about a third of the difference. So you probably

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<v Speaker 2>go from one twenty five to one fifty. I'll bet

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<v Speaker 2>you that's an increase of eight thousand in federal taxes.

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<v Speaker 2>So now you get back another couple of thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 2>dollars on for sold security. I mean, making one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and twenty five thousand dollars or one hundred fifty thousand dollars,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not going to become a millionaire.

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<v Speaker 5>Fill I mean on that side, I unfortunately I understand

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<v Speaker 5>that I finally got it out right. Thanks for that,

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<v Speaker 5>I guess style audios.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks, touch to you later, good night, take a quick break,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not I don't want to short change Rick and Dover.

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<v Speaker 2>He's up next. And then I got Joe and Lynn.

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<v Speaker 2>I got some room for you both at six one, seven, two, five,

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<v Speaker 2>four to ten thirty and at six one, seven, nine

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<v Speaker 2>three one ten thirty. The purpose tonight is to basically

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<v Speaker 2>calm people down. I mean, I could be a lot more.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess scary uh and tell you well, you never know.

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<v Speaker 2>They might elimitate No, no, they're not going to eliminate

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<v Speaker 2>Social Security. I don't think that any benefits that people

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<v Speaker 2>are receiving now legitimately are going to be taken away

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<v Speaker 2>from them. And I hope that if there are new

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<v Speaker 2>people who are going to have to get a certified

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<v Speaker 2>new people signing up certified federal account, that it's done

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<v Speaker 2>in such a way that it's relatively easy. And look,

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<v Speaker 2>every politician, if they're smart, no, none of them, most

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<v Speaker 2>of them really aren't. But every politician could could volunteer

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<v Speaker 2>to set up Saturday sessions at public libraries in their

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<v Speaker 2>districts in which they would have people there to help

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<v Speaker 2>people who need that help in lieu of social Security offices.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see this is this is there are there are

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<v Speaker 2>options here joined the conversation back right after the news

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<v Speaker 2>at the bottom of the hour.

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<v Speaker 1>It's nice with Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's get back to the call. It's going

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<v Speaker 2>to go to a Rick in Dover. Rick, welcome back.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you sir?

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<v Speaker 6>Hey? How you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Dah doing great? What's what you're taking all of this? Rick?

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<v Speaker 6>I gotta say, this is the first time I enjoyed

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<v Speaker 6>your opening and the comment of a first call. You're

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<v Speaker 6>a spot on as far as I'm concerned.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you. I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 6>It was great hearing it.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish I wish that that was not that there

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<v Speaker 2>have been other times, but that's okay. I just uh,

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<v Speaker 2>I think we're putting people into a bit of a panic.

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<v Speaker 2>And did you reach n Murphy's piece in the Globe

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<v Speaker 2>today by any chance or no? Now?

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<v Speaker 6>But I'm on Social Security and I got to go

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<v Speaker 6>in and I prove I'm alive in the next couple

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<v Speaker 6>of days.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let me ask how long have you been on

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<v Speaker 2>Social Security?

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<v Speaker 7>Oh?

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<v Speaker 6>Probably five years?

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<v Speaker 2>Five years and you never got you never got your

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<v Speaker 2>identification verified.

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<v Speaker 6>I had to go in like one or two times.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but now.

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<v Speaker 6>All of a sudden, it's a new thing. And I

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<v Speaker 6>called them because I read the White House, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>press release and stuff. And first it says that you

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<v Speaker 6>don't have to come in if you're already getting it.

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<v Speaker 6>Da da da da da, unless it's a regular schedule review.

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<v Speaker 6>They do those like every two years. But then at

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<v Speaker 6>the bottom it said, oh, yeah, but you've really got

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<v Speaker 6>to prove your live though. So I called him and

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<v Speaker 6>you know, question him. And first the person that answered said, oh,

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<v Speaker 6>you don't have to come in. You know you're you're good.

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<v Speaker 6>And then I said, well, why is it say this

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<v Speaker 6>down on the press release, and then she went and

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<v Speaker 6>talked to the supervisor. I guess it made me an appointment.

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<v Speaker 6>So I'm going in the next couple of days to

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<v Speaker 6>prove them alive and breathing and who I am. And

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<v Speaker 6>of course from firstus here to get every form idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'll tell you I was able several years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm not the smartest guy. On terms of the computer,

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<v Speaker 2>I was able to essentially upload a driver's license or

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<v Speaker 2>I forget if it was a birth certificate from my

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<v Speaker 2>phone or from my computer. I guess it was UH.

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<v Speaker 2>And I also took a picture of myself and I

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<v Speaker 2>have a SOB security number. I've never had to go

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<v Speaker 2>through this. I did it electronically about four or five

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<v Speaker 2>years ago. I'm surprised that that you didn't do it

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<v Speaker 2>back then. Let me ask you this, do you have

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<v Speaker 2>a SOB security account? Like can you go on to

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<v Speaker 2>you know, so security dot gov?

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<v Speaker 6>And I tried that every time it wouldn't let me

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<v Speaker 6>do it. But I mean I got to check every month,

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<v Speaker 6>no no review.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but there's let me see if I can help

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<v Speaker 2>you out here for a seconds, just for for for

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<v Speaker 2>for second here, Okay, I'm not the smartest guy in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of so in terms of computers. I want you

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<v Speaker 2>to know that I I don't get the lingo or

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<v Speaker 2>anything like that. I'm probably something either. Yeah, I mean, so,

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<v Speaker 2>so I go to uh an item here a website

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<v Speaker 2>which is s s a dot gov slash my account.

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<v Speaker 5>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Have you have you tried that that website or not?

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<v Speaker 6>I tried. I tried it and then they said, oh

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<v Speaker 6>I got a duplicate or count or something, so it

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<v Speaker 6>wouldn't let me log in, because supposedly when I try

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<v Speaker 6>to log in once, it wouldn't let me do it,

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<v Speaker 6>and now won't let me do it at all. I'm

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<v Speaker 6>gonna try to fix it in the next couple of days.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so let me tell you again, if you if

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<v Speaker 2>you well, if you write this down, it might help

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<v Speaker 2>you a little bit. I don't know what what office

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<v Speaker 2>are you going to? Are you living Dover? So how

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<v Speaker 2>far do you have to go?

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<v Speaker 6>I'm only going to Portsmouth, so it's not a big deal.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. So so you know you're in You're in Dover,

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<v Speaker 2>New Hampshire, right, Okay, I thought you were in Dover, Massachusetts. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so it isn't a big deal.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you go s s a dot gov, slash

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<v Speaker 2>my account. Okay, there's a sign in button. So I

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<v Speaker 2>clicked the signing button, uh, and it says I can

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<v Speaker 2>sign in with log in dot gov or I can

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<v Speaker 2>sign in with I d dot me or signing with

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<v Speaker 2>my SoC security user game okay, user name. So I

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<v Speaker 2>I go to.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm trying it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well when I go to all right, now I

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<v Speaker 2>get it. I go to secure dot log in dot gov.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's my email address, and my password is right there.

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<v Speaker 2>It says show password. I know what my password is,

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<v Speaker 2>so they they've kept my password and I submit it

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<v Speaker 2>and all of a sudden, they want to send me

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<v Speaker 2>a one time code. Okay, and my phone is across

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<v Speaker 2>the room here.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh so hold on, Rick, I don't worry about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I know I'm going to help you out. Man. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to help you out. I want to.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm gonna have them do that because I'm going over there.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So I went, I grabbed my phone, which I was charging.

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<v Speaker 2>You're still there, Rick, yeah, good, Okay, So I got

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<v Speaker 2>a log in number here. I'm not going to tell

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<v Speaker 2>you what the log in number is, but I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to put it in. It's a six six number code.

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<v Speaker 2>Boom boom boom boom boom. Okay, I got my code.

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<v Speaker 2>Here we go, okyeah, yep, uh huh okay. Do not

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<v Speaker 2>use spaces or capital letters. Okay. Okay, so that.

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<v Speaker 6>Any is in capital and.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, oh yeah, this is.

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<v Speaker 2>Why they did that. I don't know. Okay, well you

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<v Speaker 2>might be right. So now I okay, now my one

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<v Speaker 2>time code, here's another one.

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<v Speaker 8>Here we go, uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, point no, no, no, I'm proving you point. Here

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<v Speaker 2>we go.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh my god, go ahead, I'm in.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree to terms of service. Just a little check.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree. Next, Here we go next, and I'm looking. Welcome, Daniel.

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<v Speaker 2>You last signed in on January seventh, at twelve twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five pm Eastern time. I got my benefits summary, I

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<v Speaker 2>got my SO security payment here. I'm not on Medicare

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<v Speaker 2>because I have my wife's coverage and I'm enrolled in

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<v Speaker 2>medica here. You got to enroll in Medicare when you

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<v Speaker 2>turn seventy, right, believe me on that. And then if

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<v Speaker 2>i'd like, I can get my Social Security statement, which

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<v Speaker 2>is going to tell me that I can look at

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<v Speaker 2>everything that I have contributed to my SO security you know,

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<v Speaker 2>how forever, how long I've worked. Okay, Yeah, so here's that.

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<v Speaker 6>Which one? Which one? Are they talking about cutting Medicare

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<v Speaker 6>or Medicaid.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no cut on Medicare. Musk just said that. And again,

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<v Speaker 2>now you know, if you want to assume that the

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<v Speaker 2>guy is a uh, you know, total liar, Okay, and

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<v Speaker 2>again I'm looking at.

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<v Speaker 6>A scheme last week.

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<v Speaker 4>But.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, he has said that in the past, Okay, and

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<v Speaker 2>what what I believe he meant by that? Was if

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<v Speaker 2>you pay you to so security Rick for your entire life,

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<v Speaker 2>and you die at sixty five before you've taken so security,

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<v Speaker 2>you know you're you don't get the door because you're dead. No,

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<v Speaker 2>look right, you know so so to some extent there

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<v Speaker 2>Now conversely, there was one year, you know, when George

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<v Speaker 2>Steinberner died when there was no estate tax. So Steinberner's

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<v Speaker 2>estate was not taxed. So there are those sort of anomalies.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, look, I wish you're best of luck. Do

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<v Speaker 2>me a favor. Let me know how you make out tomorrow. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I thanks Dan, thank you, thank you very much, my friend.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk to you later.

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<v Speaker 6>Good night, bye bye, good night.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just here to try to help, that's all. Let

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<v Speaker 2>me go next to Joe. Joe joins us from Lynn Joe.

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<v Speaker 2>Next time, Dan, Joe.

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<v Speaker 8>It's crazy. Yeah, I get so security. I worked a

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<v Speaker 8>little bit but the company folded. But I get it

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<v Speaker 8>from my father who died. I'm his you know, disabled son.

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<v Speaker 8>Now I don't know whether I have to go.

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<v Speaker 2>In at what at what age did your dad die?

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<v Speaker 2>How old were you?

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<v Speaker 8>Uh see, it was how he died and I was

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<v Speaker 8>no How.

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<v Speaker 2>Old were you Joe, Joe, Yeah, just tell me how

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<v Speaker 2>old you were.

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<v Speaker 8>I think I was.

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<v Speaker 2>A prosimately, Joe would work. Were you six or seven?

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<v Speaker 2>Were you fifteen? Were you twenty? How old were you?

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<v Speaker 8>No, he died a few years ago. When he died, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Was in my Joe, this is a real simple question, Joe,

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<v Speaker 2>This is a really simple question. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>I just told you I was in my seventy if

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<v Speaker 8>he died around nineteen ninety.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So you were in your seventies and nineteen nineties,

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<v Speaker 2>so now you what one hundred?

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<v Speaker 8>No, I'm seventy eight. I was. I probably got the

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<v Speaker 8>dates mixed up. Nineteen ninety okay, So what's okay?

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<v Speaker 2>So you have been on Social Security? You're for most

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<v Speaker 2>of your life because because you're you've been disabled. Correct

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<v Speaker 2>you're blind?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Now do you get You don't get a big

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<v Speaker 2>check for that, I assume, But what does it help you?

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<v Speaker 8>No? I only get like thirteen hundred a month, that's all.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. Have you ever worked and contributed to Social Yes?

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<v Speaker 8>I did when I was in Philadelphia for about a

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<v Speaker 8>couple of months and the company folded.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so you've worked for two months. You worked for

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<v Speaker 2>two months so how much money do you think you

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<v Speaker 2>contributed to Social Security in those two months?

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<v Speaker 8>God, I honestly don't know. That was in the seventies

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<v Speaker 8>of sixties. I really don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Fifty bucks, fifty bucks, sixty bucks.

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<v Speaker 8>Maybe about hundred bucks. Yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So you've been on so security now disability for a

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<v Speaker 2>little over fifty.

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<v Speaker 8>Years, yeah, around that, yeah, okay, and you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Making thirteen hundred a month, so that probably works out

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<v Speaker 2>to about I don't know, fifteen thousand a year.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, you know, around that, yes, Lily, proximately.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So if you've been on it for fifty years,

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<v Speaker 2>you probably made you probably had about three quarters of

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<v Speaker 2>a million dollars in benefits, which, again, over the course

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<v Speaker 2>of a lifetime, you've got a whole lot of money.

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<v Speaker 2>But you if you paid in like maybe two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>dollars and you've benefited about seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's a lot of folks who and so security

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<v Speaker 2>is kind of an insurance system. I never suffered from

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<v Speaker 2>a disability, and I would never trade places with you,

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<v Speaker 2>my friend.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, but I know you've said that to me before.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well I believe it. I mean, I can't of

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<v Speaker 2>imagine how difficult your life has been. You know, I

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<v Speaker 2>know you're doing a fighter and I'm not patronizing you.

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<v Speaker 2>All I'm just telling you is that this is a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of an insurance program when it basically says

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<v Speaker 2>to us, Look, if something happened to me, if I

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<v Speaker 2>fell off a roof, you know, fifty years ago or whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>I would have been in your situation. But so I

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<v Speaker 2>probably contributed more to Social Security than I've taken get out,

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<v Speaker 2>and if I live long enough, maybe I'll end up

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<v Speaker 2>taking out a little bit more. But obviously they've had

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<v Speaker 2>the use of the money. So it's there's an insurance

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<v Speaker 2>aspect to it, there's a retirement aspect to it, and

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<v Speaker 2>do me a fav I just don't want you to

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<v Speaker 2>be worried you're so security better, No I'm not.

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<v Speaker 8>Because I've heard Eli. I heard him say that the

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<v Speaker 8>Social Security should increase. I just hope he does it

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<v Speaker 8>right and get gets rid of the fraud, because a

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<v Speaker 8>lot of those calls are fraud. I know I called

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<v Speaker 8>in a few years ago when I had to switch

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<v Speaker 8>my bank, and I don't know about now. If I

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<v Speaker 8>ever have to switch a bank, I may have to

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<v Speaker 8>go into the office. I don't know. I hope not.

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<v Speaker 8>So that's a that's a lot of work.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, I'm going to let you go. I

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<v Speaker 2>thank you for calling and uh and thank god we

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<v Speaker 2>have so security for folks.

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<v Speaker 8>And good and good luck dealing with I want to

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<v Speaker 8>wish Rick good luck. I hope he gets it straightened out.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolute thanks, Joe, appreciate it. Thank you much. We'll be

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<v Speaker 2>back right after this quick break on nightside. Feel fraid

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<v Speaker 2>to join the car. I can carry this into the

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<v Speaker 2>next hour if you want, but that's your decision. The

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<v Speaker 2>audience decides what we talk about. Six one, seven, two, five, four,

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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty six one seven, nine, three, one, ten thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>If you have a question, I'll try to help you.

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<v Speaker 2>I would really suggest that if you get a moment today,

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<v Speaker 2>go onto the Boston Globe website and look up the

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<v Speaker 2>article written by Sean Murphy, who's he really writes great

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<v Speaker 2>stuff for the Globe. And his article is the byline

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<v Speaker 2>is what's called the fine print that says digging into

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<v Speaker 2>social Security, and he did dig into it. And tomorrow

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<v Speaker 2>I will have Jim Roosevelt on the grandson of Franklin

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<v Speaker 2>Roosevelt who signed President Franklin Rosevelt, who signed the Social

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<v Speaker 2>Security Bill. I just want people. I don't want people

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<v Speaker 2>to go to bed. There's enough things to worry about.

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<v Speaker 2>You can worry about nuclear war, you can worry about

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of things, but don't worry about social security

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<v Speaker 2>at this point. Okay, Trump maybe in many respects a

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<v Speaker 2>little out there, but he's not going to mess with

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<v Speaker 2>soil security in my opinion and by basically his statements,

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<v Speaker 2>unless he wants to prove himself. He has said repeatedly,

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<v Speaker 2>and Elon Musk has said repeatedly, they're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>mess with social security or medic here. Back on Nightside

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<v Speaker 2>after this, You're on.

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<v Speaker 1>Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>By the worry, By the way, I also received an

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<v Speaker 2>email from so Security telling me that I had just

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<v Speaker 2>signed into my account and if if someone else had

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<v Speaker 2>signed it in my account, I should notify them again.

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<v Speaker 2>If if it wasn't, you weset your password, uh and

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<v Speaker 2>change your authentication methods immediately.

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<v Speaker 8>It worked.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't have to do that. Next up, let's go to

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<v Speaker 2>Paul and Need and Paul and You are next on Nightside. Welcome,

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks very much, for checking in and go ahead, Paul, Oh.

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<v Speaker 4>You Dan, I know you, I know you have a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of listeners that are retire and city state government

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<v Speaker 4>workers and they get pensions from the government or the

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<v Speaker 4>city of the state.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 4>And are you aware of the recent social security fairness.

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<v Speaker 2>That that has just been changed in March. As a

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<v Speaker 2>matter of fact, I have a good friend of mine

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<v Speaker 2>who worked for the City of Boston, one of the

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<v Speaker 2>facilities in the City of Boston, and that has that

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<v Speaker 2>has been changed and there was some back back social

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<v Speaker 2>security payments given by the government. Yes.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's Bill h R. Eighty two and it was

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<v Speaker 4>passed on January fifth, and it's the Social Security Fairness

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<v Speaker 4>Act which eliminates the windfall petition. Yes, correct, Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 4>years teachers, police officers.

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<v Speaker 2>And anyone anyone who worked. Yeah, they they got. The

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<v Speaker 2>argument was that they they they probably had qualified for

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<v Speaker 2>a state pension or and they should not get a

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<v Speaker 2>second pension. But if they had worked ten quarters in

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<v Speaker 2>the private sector, I think they they certainly should need

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<v Speaker 2>to get two pensions.

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<v Speaker 4>The government worker was penalized in other words.

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<v Speaker 2>Well he was he or she was, assuming that they

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<v Speaker 2>had that they had also worked the requisite number of quarters,

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<v Speaker 2>which I believe is forty quarters or ten years correct

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<v Speaker 2>in the private sector. So if somebody worked for let's

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<v Speaker 2>say the MBTA and they retired at the age of fifty,

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<v Speaker 2>they got it. You know, they could get a pension

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<v Speaker 2>at the NBTA, by the way, as early as forty

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<v Speaker 2>two back in the day, they retired at the age

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<v Speaker 2>of fifty, and then they went and worked in another

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<v Speaker 2>job for ten years they had they could only get one.

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<v Speaker 2>One was offset against the other. No, I agree with that,

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<v Speaker 2>gled you pointed that out.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's a wonderful thing that that passed. I know

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<v Speaker 4>John Kerry when he was in the Senate, he worked

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<v Speaker 4>hard on that to try to get that eliminated, the

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<v Speaker 4>windflaw petition. But I think there was the Federation the

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<v Speaker 4>teachers that were the leader in getting this done.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah again it yep, it's done and it was it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's the law and it went into effect in early March. Paul,

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate it. I just got to go a couple

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<v Speaker 2>more here. I want to try to sneak you. Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you for sharing that great, great information. Thank you. Next up,

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<v Speaker 2>Sandy is an effort. Sandy, you were Next time nightside.

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<v Speaker 6>Go right ahead, Well, hi Dan, how are you good?

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<v Speaker 2>Sandy? What's your take on tonight?

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<v Speaker 7>My take is also what you were trying to help

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<v Speaker 7>the gentleman out as far as on making sure all

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<v Speaker 7>your paperwork and photo it ts are verified in the

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<v Speaker 7>government's system. I did get a notice I think around

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<v Speaker 7>November of last year to make sure I do that

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<v Speaker 7>by like January or something, and so I did everything right.

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<v Speaker 7>The only challenge was trying to upload your driver's license

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<v Speaker 7>because you have to up to upload your Social Security

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<v Speaker 7>card and your driver slice. And I even put my

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<v Speaker 7>image on like where I had a table met that

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<v Speaker 7>was black because they say do it on a dark background,

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<v Speaker 7>So that was challenging for me. Coincidentally, I don't know

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<v Speaker 7>where where in this system, I came across an eight

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<v Speaker 7>hundred number, called that number, and I took a chance,

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<v Speaker 7>you know how, you're at the right place at the

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<v Speaker 7>right time. I was there in home, and I left

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<v Speaker 7>the voice now you know, like a callback, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>to call me back. I'bby darn. It's a really nice woman.

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<v Speaker 7>I forget her, asked me, but her first name is Michelle.

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<v Speaker 7>She called me back within thirty minutes. She sent me,

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<v Speaker 7>and she sent me in and what do you call it?

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<v Speaker 7>And like an encrypt.

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<v Speaker 2>Encrypted encrypted message.

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<v Speaker 7>Yep, okay, sure, sorry, my coat's bowing on me. And

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<v Speaker 7>I was able to upload my driver's lie and image

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<v Speaker 7>of it that way, and I'm all set. But those

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<v Speaker 7>who can do that or you know, find it intimidating

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<v Speaker 7>because I'm pretty pcy literal. But those who and I'm

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<v Speaker 7>seventy three so and I'm blessed. But those who are

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<v Speaker 7>are unable or intimidated about uploading information or maybe not

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<v Speaker 7>be comfortable doing that, they can actually go to the

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<v Speaker 7>local post office that will help them upload such documentary.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's great information. I didn't know that. Yeah, No,

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<v Speaker 2>that's great information. Yeah, I think that's yeah. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>I know that you get passports now at your post office.

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<v Speaker 2>It used to be that you had to go into

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<v Speaker 2>the federal building downtown. So there's ways to do this

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<v Speaker 2>and make it less stressful. And I hope that's what

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<v Speaker 2>the Trump administration is trying to do here. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>make any sense to make it tougher on people, make

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<v Speaker 2>it easier on people who are truly eligible to be

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<v Speaker 2>Social Security recipients, and eliminate the fraudsters. I don't have

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<v Speaker 2>a problem with eliminating the fraudsters, and I want.

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<v Speaker 4>To make me either else.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, great, Hey, thanks so much, Sandy.

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<v Speaker 4>I got a screw it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I got the ten. Thanks so much for calling.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate that. That's a good short. So we've done

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<v Speaker 2>this hour what I wanted to do, and i'd like

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<v Speaker 2>to continue into the next hour. I got Jack on

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<v Speaker 2>the cape. Jack, stay there if you like it. A

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<v Speaker 2>couple more folks want to join, we'll we'll go deeper

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<v Speaker 2>into this into the next hour. Six one, seven, two, five, four,

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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty or six one, seven, nine, three, one, ten

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<v Speaker 2>thirty Back on night Side.