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but I'm still on the field. I mean, I'm not
really injured. I'm just really tired. I went to I
don't know, and I just I went to bed late
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me just do that, okay. Marking myself safe on Facebook
from getting arrested for ramming Customs and Border Patrol officer
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But we are now over two hundred arrests by Customs
and Border Patrol immigration enforcement operations in Charlotte, over two hundred,
and as I mentioned yesterday, I feel the need to
point this out once again that you know, when you
see these videos of you've got you know, border patrol
agent breaking a window and that's the beginning of the video,
you don't know what occurred before the beginning of the video.
And that is not a blanket defense of every single
Border patrol officer in every single instance, merely pointing out
that that viral video that's tugging on all your feels
may not actually prove the thing that you want it
to prove, based on your prior biases. Okay, So we
have a couple of stories. Apparently we're up to now
four for people who have been arrested. These are American
citizens who have been arrested for using their cars in
ways to try to either harm border patrol officers or
to impede them. So the Charlotte Observer with the headline,
man documenting border patrol in Charlotte arrested and freed Tuesday
from FBI office. Okay, so he was questioned by the FBI.
This person. Federal Immigration agents arrested a man who documented
their activities in Charlotte on Tuesday, his friends told the
Charlotte Observer. So the observers leading with this story, this
narrative is coming from him and his friends and his lawyer,
who he actually did not know he had. He had
not hired a lawyer, but there was a lawyer hanging
out outside the facility and was saying he could represent
him or something. But the guy who was inside the
facility after being arrested did not know this because he
did not have this man hired as his attorney. Okay,
So this individual, his name is Joshua Long. He was
freed from an FBI office six hours after being taken
into custody, which is actually not very long. If you've
ever been taken into custody, six hours is not too bad. Now.
I know that that might be very very long by
Mecklenburg County judicial standards here, but in the grands game
of things, six hours is not a very long time.
I'm not even sure that they finished the paperwork on
this guy before he got turned loose. It all happened
yesterday afternoon at the parking lot of the East Way
Crossing shopping Center. I know it will. I know that place. Well,
that was my old stomping grounds back in two thousand
and five. Not that I did any stomping there. Well,
there was this one time I got mad when I
went into the pizzeria and they were all out of zeppels. Anyway,
the man's lawyer said that he is concerned because the
FBI won't let him visit his client, and details are sparse.
So again note the narrative. You know, American citizen merely
documenting something going on, you know, picked up by the
jack booted fascists and thrown into the dungeon, not allowed
to talk to a lawyer. His lawyer when in fact,
there is a different accusation that the DHS is making
against this individual. It's not simply documenting number one and
number two. Like I said, the guy didn't even know
this lawyer was outside because he wasn't his lawyer. Here
is what Joshua Long's partner, Gabrielle Sorge or Sorgye or Sorgee,
I don't know. This is what Gabrielle told the Observer
that Joshua Long was trying to quote deter agents from
terrorizing our community. Okay, so note the difference because deterring
is not exactly the same as documenting, right, those things
are not automatically the same thing. It's not quite the
same unless you believe that simply videotaping somebody is going
to deter them from engaging in their operations. And sometimes, yes,
when you're videotaping, somebody could deter some sort of action. However,
I'm not sure if you've seen this, but CBP does
not seem to be deterred by these activity. They are not.
They are continuing to walk around and do whatever they're doing,
and they're actually walking around with video cameras themselves. So
I'm not sure if everybody has got their stories straight
on this yet. As to what exactly Joshua Long was
doing now, his friend Lucy Selby said that they were
all watching agents and alerting neighbors. Okay, So you're blasting
out information about an ongoing federal investigation. Okay. So I
guess that's more likely to be classified as deterrence, right,
like you're trying to deter or impede or obstruct. That's
a good word for it too. They followed agents into
the parking lot and then agents blocked them in with
their vehicles, she said. So this is all from their perspective, okay.
In response to an inquiry from the Charlotta an unsigned
media relations email from the US Department of Homeland Security
alleged that Long was arrested quote for vehicular assault against
a federal agent. Now Long says that's not true. He
didn't do nothing wrong. He was released from the FBI
office in Southwest Charlotte around six thirty pm, where he
was embraced as if he had been held in ah
in like an Iranian prison or a Hamas tunnel for
the last two years. He was embraced outside by supporters
and loved ones and He said in an interview that
he was charged with simple assault on a federal officer.
So he was charged, So note you have to go.
I'm on page two. It just says man documenting border
patrol in Charlotte arrested freed Tuesday from FBI office he
was charged. That headline could just as easily read man
charged with assault on federal official, because that's what he
was charged with. Even he acknowledges he was charged with that.
Federal officers accused him of skimming their car. That's not
even in quotes. So the observer is they're they're the
ones that are constructing this description skimming their car. I'm
assuming that means like sideswiping it or does that mean
something else? I don't know in like in vehicular assault
circles in the in the vehicular assault community, does skimming
mean something? I'm not up with the lingo there. They
say he skimmed the CBB car when he was trying
to evade them, but Long said he was following the
agents to alert people that they were in the area,
which is not that's not actually addressing it. That's it's
not a denial. But he says he didn't do nothing.
Officers started coming after him, and he started driving aggressively,
they say, or Long said. Long said they were driving aggressively,
and he just tried to maneuver around them when he
got cornered in a dead end, and he said agents
eventually pointed a gun at him and pulled him from
his vehicle and arrested him on the ground. Now, any
law enforcement officer that just heard me read this description
knows this pattern. When describing the thing that got you arrested.
You are never the villain, right, always the hero or
the victim. This is a narcissism. So this is what
you are doing when you're when you try to tell
the story in your most favorable light. I was out
there being a hero. I was out there just trying
to document and alert people. I was following the training
that I got from the Communist Comrades an Indivisible Charlotte
at that church training session. That's all I was doing.
And then they started driving after me and I tried
to get around them. They got all aggressive, and I
was just trying to get away and I just didn't
want to do anything wrong, and then they just arrested me.
A friend who watched the incident, said Long never scraped
the agency's vehicle or the agent's vehicle. So you know
he's impartial because he's one of his friends, and so
we know that. Okay, now we'll get to the lawyer here,
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read them. This is well now just bounced hang on
a second. Uh okay, so this is from Allan. If
this were happening forty years ago with border patrol roundups,
even Charlotte Democrats would have approved. Yeah. I made the
point like this, this used to happen in America. I
remember seeing this in TV shows, on the news, in
movies when I was growing up, like that, you know,
immigration would come into some sweatshop, terrible condition workplace, and
you know all of the illegal aliens would try to
run out the back door and stuff. I mean, I
know it's a TV show or movie, but this was
everybody understood that this is what enforcement looks like. But
now suicidal empathy has taken over. So no, the Hellian says,
we have to hammer home that we should enforce as
we go so we do not end up in messes
like this. It is this messy because of decades of
half but enforcement Okay, yeah, no, it's it's what I
keep saying, like the decisions of the last forty years
and the ignoring of the issue, the deflection, deflection of
the issue, the refusal to address it right that has
led us to this point. This is what it looks
like when you ignore the problem for decades, you ignore
the will of your voters for decades. This is what
it ends up looking like. But we've got, you know,
lefties that are out there rolling around and trying to
impede the work of these border patrol agents. And from
this story the Observer about this guy Joshua Long who
got arrested. Here's what the story says. I'm like halfway
through this lengthy piece. I think it's like four it's
two and a half pages, almost three pages long. Halfway through,
more than halfway through, you finally get this information. For
most of the afternoon and early evening, he sat handcuff
in an interview room. He said he spoke with FBI
agents to convey his point of view on the incident.
He said, Okay, first off, don't ever talk to the
FBI without a lawyer. Okay, did you learn nothing from
the law fair against Donald Trump and his entire orbit
of advisors and such. Right, don't talk to the FBI
if they come to if they come asking you questions
about something, get a lawyer number one. Number two, The
fact that he talked with the FBI indicates that whatever
Miranda writes, they read him, and I'm assuming that they did.
He waived them and spoke to the FBI. So it
doesn't seem like he ever asked for a lawyer, Right,
it doesn't seem like that. If you're sitting there, you know,
the FBI is like what happened because he said he
says in the piece that the FBI would talk to
the Border Patrol guys and they would come back and
talk to him, and they were trying to figure out
what exactly happened. So they were interviewing everybody. Well, if
you were worried, you should have had a lawyer there,
or you waived your rights, in which case then like
you're talking freely to the FBI. Did you get a
phone call? So like all this outrage, like, oh my gosh,
he was detained and all this. Yeah, but he he
agreed to talk with them. He was released after the
agents went between him and Border Patrol for information about
what happened. He was greeted outside by his attorney, Xavier T. Dijanon,
and his partner and friends who were there when he
was arrested. The lawyer says, I'm feeling horrified. Then an
innocent person was held for six hours and disappeared from
the world. It was the first time the attorney and
long had met that day. Wait, so how is it
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the martyrs of the anti CBP protesting, Joshua Long, got arrested.
Customs and Border Patrols say that he sideswiped their vehicle
while trying to trying to interfere with their operation over
in East Charlotte. He and his friend, who claims to
have witnessed the whole thing, say he did nothing wrong.
He sat for an interview with the FBI when they
When they did arrest him, and bring him in. The
FBI conducted the interviews and then they charged him. So
they charged him. He doesn't ever tell the observer or
the paper doesn't report whether or not he was offered
a phone call, whether he claimed his right to remain silent,
if he ever asked for a lawyer. But there was
a lawyer outside the FBI facility, Xavier T. De Jannon
And when he was released, Joshua Long was released quote,
it was the first time the attorney and Long had
met that day. Had they ever met before? Did he
know there was a lawyer out front? No, An FBI
agent told the lawyer outside that people arrested could not
see their lawyers. He had waited to see Joshua Long
since three point fifty outside the FBI office on Microsoft Way.
Long said he was not told that a lawyer was
looking to meet with him. He would have requested to
see the lawyer if he had known that. Okay, did
you ask for a phone call? Did you ask for
a lawyer? Did you agree to answer questions without a
lawyer present? He's got a court date in May now.
Someone with the FBI informed him that the agency will
not be allowing lawyers to visit with people facing such
arrests until they have been questioned and processed. That's according
to the lawyer. He says, that's what the FBI told him. Charlotte.
FBI spokesperson Shelley Lynch said in a short statement that
the FBI is adhering to the law, but they do
not include that short statement in their story, So I
don't know exactly what the FBI said, but that does
seem to be problematic. I kind of feel like you
should probably be, you know, reading people their rights, and
if somebody says I want a lawyer, they should have
a lawyer, even if they don't know that some guy
out front is a lawyer and is like, I'll represent you,
I'll represent you. The lawyer says. Criminal defendant's access to
counsel is one of the most fundamental rights in this country.
So if a criminal defense attorney cannot visit someone who
has been accused of a crime while they're being questioned investigated,
then their fundamental rights are being violated. There are, of course,
instances where the right to counsel can be limited, but
in this situation, I don't even have a police report,
a case number, a booking number, and investigation open. One
of the best follow up questions. Here's a free journalism tip,
but it works very well in all sorts of discussions
on stuff. Best follow up question usually you can ask
if if you don't have any follow ups already planned
and ready to go, how so, just ask how so so?
When this lawyer guy is saying to the reporter that
there are, of course instances where the right to count
so can be limited, you could ask, how so explain
that give me one of those instances? Is this one
of the instances? So? I don't know, and nobody else does.
It doesn't even seem like the reporters that covered the
story understand all of the law that's at play and
what all occurred. Meanwhile, court records provide details about a
man who Customs and Border Protection agents alleged was following
them in Charlotte and then hit one agent with his car.
This guy's name is Christobo Maltos. He followed agents as
they conducted stops and arrests on Monday, According to a
criminal complaint filed in the US District Court of Western
North Carolina District, he reversed when agents first tried to
make contact with him Maltos later resumed following them, and
three Border patrol cars and five agents surrounded him. The
agents asked him him for thirty seconds to roll down
his window. According to the court documents, one officer quote
leaned over the hood of the vehicle on the front
driver's side. Then Maltos's car moved forward about thirty feet
and its side mirror struck an officer. That's what they
allege occurred. Then the car reversed slowly and officers smashed
the driver's side window, opening the door and removing Maltos.
This was all captured on body camera. Agent said they
read Maltos his miranda rights, which he waved, and he
eventually admitted yes, he did move the vehicle forward in
first gear, but he claimed he was in shock and
was just trying to get away. See, I was just
trying to evade arrest. I was just trying to flee
the scene. But he did not admit striking the officer.
Maltos is charged with felony assault, resisting arrest, and impeding
a federal officer. There's another named miguel An hell Garcia Martinez.
He faces the same charge. After federal agents alleged that
he weaponized his vehicle against them in the University City
area on Sunday. And this is probably the video that
you saw of the sprinter van jumping over medians, crossing
over into traffic, getting chased out and then eventually boxed
in and the driver arrested. And there's a woman facing
the same charge as Martinez and Maltos. She was released
from jail Monday following her hearing. Details about her case
remained scant because her criminal complaint remained under seal yesterday,
but family and community members told The Observer she was
arrested at a Sunday morning protest outside the Department of
Homeland Securities Charlotte office. Martinez, Maltos, and this woman face
a maximum sentence of eight years in prison and a
quarter million dollar fine if they are convicted. Maltos and
the woman were released on twenty five thousand dollars unsecured bonds.
Martinez has a detention hearing this afternoon. All right, if
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jump over to the phones. John, Welcome to the program.
Speaker 2: Hello John, Hey sir, Hey, I want to get a
little clarity and use your magnificent mind to see it.
You can help me here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's tottering me up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the nighte goes in better. Uh huh, all right,
yesterday you were indicating, yes, you came in illegally, just
no questions asked, You're ready to be deported or should
be deported.
Speaker 1: That's the law.
Speaker 2: Just slot out you came here illegally. That's it.
Speaker 1: That's well, that's the law. But that's the law.
Speaker 2: Well okay, yeah, I know that's the law. So you know,
people scream for comprehensive immigration reform. But if we ignore
that and just say that, okay, what does that look like?
Are we going to bend for the next two years,
four years, five years, eight years, round up and try
and find every single person and verify their their status
immigration status if we hold to the law.
Speaker 1: So is your what we're going to do? I mean,
my preference is that we follow the law. Or if
you don't like the law and you don't want to
follow it, then you repeal that law. Those are the
options that those are the options in a society that
is founded on law.
Speaker 2: Sure, okay, all right, So what does that law look like?
What would you see that law looking like?
Speaker 1: Well, there's there's many prongs to it. Right, You've got
your workplace enforcement that like you got you know your
ways to verify, e verify and all of that. So
you've got those types of checks and such. You do
have a cooperation through a two eighty seven G program.
For example, when somebody gets arrested, they end up at
the jail, you run them through the ICE database, you
get them ount that.
Speaker 2: Way, right, So there's you're a dancing around the edges though,
But I'm saying.
Speaker 1: No, I'm telling you there are also there are many
different ways that enforcing the law is done. And you
do it in the workplace, you do it in the
you do it in the jails. There are many ways
that you go about enforcing that law.
Speaker 2: Right exactly. But the point being, you're doing nothing except
going still going down the path of if you're here illegally,
that's it. Why that's you're gone. Right now, I'm going
to use a mechanism of not allowing you to work here,
so hopefully you'll self deport.
Speaker 1: But right, that's the law. But that's the law. And again,
as we discussed yesterday, if you want people to be
able to come into the country to work in your
construction company, then you do a work visa program, just
like we have for the agricultural workers.
Speaker 2: Right, And so in the meantime, while we're trying to
get that law and whatever that takes, that law's still
not going to cover the people that are here illegally.
You know, they came twenty thirty, forty years ago. We're
still going to after them at some point. We're going
to get them, is your point, right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, if they if they cross paths with enforcement agents. Yeah,
whether that's whether that's a good policy that Look, that's
the law.
Speaker 2: Well, no, I'm asking you.
Speaker 1: No, you're asking me. You're asking me to ignore the law.
You're saying, isn't it better if we just ignore these laws?
Speaker 2: The law. I'm asking you to write the law. You've
now got the pending page.
Speaker 1: Look, hey, hey, hey, John. I have been advocating for
immigration overhaul for twenty five years, and nobody has done it.
And that's why we are in the position we are in.
Speaker 2: I agree, right, and I agree that we should be
doing it right now. We should be handling that law.
And what does that look like? That's what I'm my question.
Speaker 1: I just gave you one. I gave you one example
of what it would look like, work being more work.
I just said work. The one that you asked about
yesterday was about the construction field, and I said, just
as I just did now work visas for that industry.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: By the way, I got a lot of I have
in my hands here. I've got text messages from probably
half a dozen people in your field, in your industry
that are adamant against your position on this.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not defending my field. I'm defending common sense.
And what do we do? How do we write this
and make comprehensive immigration a non issue? How do we
fix it?
Speaker 1: You first start, as I told you yesterday, You first
start with closing the border, right so, and we've got
that done, closing the border, keeping it closed, and then
you do the enforcement mechanisms in the interior. That's what
we're seeing, and that's that is what we are seeing.
I got to run, John, I appreciate the call. Like again,
I've given all of my thoughts on what immigration should
look like over twenty five years. We are not at
that point. All right, that'll do it for this episode.
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