1 00:00:04,879 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: What's going on. Thank you so much for listening to 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,640 this podcast. It is heard live every day from noon 3 00:00:09,679 --> 00:00:12,519 to three on WBT Radio in Charlotte. And if you 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,719 want exclusive content like invitations to events, the weekly live stream, 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,239 my daily show prep with all the links, become a patron, 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,600 go to dpeakclendershow dot com. Make sure you hit the 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,160 subscribe button. Get every episode for free right to your 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,719 smartphone or tablet. And again, thank you so much for 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,640 your support. I gotta tell you I'm playing injured today people, 10 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,560 but I'm still on the field. I mean, I'm not 11 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,119 really injured. I'm just really tired. I went to I 12 00:00:37,119 --> 00:00:38,799 don't know, and I just I went to bed late 13 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,719 last night and then for some reason, woke up at 14 00:00:42,719 --> 00:00:48,960 like four forty this morning, fed the cat, and then 15 00:00:49,039 --> 00:00:51,759 just didn't go back to sleep. So if you're looking 16 00:00:51,799 --> 00:00:54,960 to take advantage of me in my weekend condition, hey, 17 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,159 this is your opportunity. Oh hang on a second, let 18 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:04,120 me just do that, okay. Marking myself safe on Facebook 19 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:08,159 from getting arrested for ramming Customs and Border Patrol officer 20 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,040 vehicles there we go. Just wanted to make sure in 21 00:01:10,079 --> 00:01:15,000 case anybody in the Facebook world was worried if I 22 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:20,959 had found myself detained after attempting to commit the hicular 23 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:26,079 assault on government officials. So seven four five, seven eleven 24 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,920 ten is the phone number, and it's also the WBT 25 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:35,719 text line driven by Liberty Buick GMC. And we got 26 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:41,519 Stacy Matthews today third hour from RedState dot com. We're 27 00:01:41,519 --> 00:01:45,799 going to talk Epstein files. We're going to talk about 28 00:01:46,079 --> 00:01:49,640 the censure votes and the I don't like what they 29 00:01:49,719 --> 00:01:53,120 did votes in the Congress. We got all that on deck. 30 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:59,680 But we are now over two hundred arrests by Customs 31 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:06,799 and Border Patrol immigration enforcement operations in Charlotte, over two hundred, 32 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,759 and as I mentioned yesterday, I feel the need to 33 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,520 point this out once again that you know, when you 34 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:18,319 see these videos of you've got you know, border patrol 35 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,840 agent breaking a window and that's the beginning of the video, 36 00:02:23,039 --> 00:02:26,520 you don't know what occurred before the beginning of the video. 37 00:02:26,719 --> 00:02:29,520 And that is not a blanket defense of every single 38 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:34,479 Border patrol officer in every single instance, merely pointing out 39 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:38,000 that that viral video that's tugging on all your feels 40 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,840 may not actually prove the thing that you want it 41 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:49,080 to prove, based on your prior biases. Okay, So we 42 00:02:49,159 --> 00:02:51,439 have a couple of stories. Apparently we're up to now 43 00:02:51,599 --> 00:02:59,159 four for people who have been arrested. These are American 44 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:04,879 citizens who have been arrested for using their cars in 45 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:09,400 ways to try to either harm border patrol officers or 46 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:17,240 to impede them. So the Charlotte Observer with the headline, 47 00:03:17,319 --> 00:03:22,960 man documenting border patrol in Charlotte arrested and freed Tuesday 48 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:29,120 from FBI office. Okay, so he was questioned by the FBI. 49 00:03:29,319 --> 00:03:34,560 This person. Federal Immigration agents arrested a man who documented 50 00:03:34,599 --> 00:03:38,479 their activities in Charlotte on Tuesday, his friends told the 51 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:43,400 Charlotte Observer. So the observers leading with this story, this 52 00:03:43,639 --> 00:03:49,400 narrative is coming from him and his friends and his lawyer, 53 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:53,479 who he actually did not know he had. He had 54 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,360 not hired a lawyer, but there was a lawyer hanging 55 00:03:56,400 --> 00:04:00,759 out outside the facility and was saying he could represent 56 00:04:00,879 --> 00:04:04,039 him or something. But the guy who was inside the 57 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:08,240 facility after being arrested did not know this because he 58 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:12,039 did not have this man hired as his attorney. Okay, 59 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:17,680 So this individual, his name is Joshua Long. He was 60 00:04:17,759 --> 00:04:23,680 freed from an FBI office six hours after being taken 61 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:28,879 into custody, which is actually not very long. If you've 62 00:04:28,879 --> 00:04:34,360 ever been taken into custody, six hours is not too bad. Now. 63 00:04:34,399 --> 00:04:37,399 I know that that might be very very long by 64 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:42,639 Mecklenburg County judicial standards here, but in the grands game 65 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,839 of things, six hours is not a very long time. 66 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,439 I'm not even sure that they finished the paperwork on 67 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:53,720 this guy before he got turned loose. It all happened 68 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,279 yesterday afternoon at the parking lot of the East Way 69 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:01,759 Crossing shopping Center. I know it will. I know that place. Well, 70 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,800 that was my old stomping grounds back in two thousand 71 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:08,079 and five. Not that I did any stomping there. Well, 72 00:05:08,079 --> 00:05:10,319 there was this one time I got mad when I 73 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,720 went into the pizzeria and they were all out of zeppels. Anyway, 74 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,480 the man's lawyer said that he is concerned because the 75 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:23,079 FBI won't let him visit his client, and details are sparse. 76 00:05:25,199 --> 00:05:31,519 So again note the narrative. You know, American citizen merely 77 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:35,800 documenting something going on, you know, picked up by the 78 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:41,480 jack booted fascists and thrown into the dungeon, not allowed 79 00:05:41,519 --> 00:05:48,360 to talk to a lawyer. His lawyer when in fact, 80 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:52,120 there is a different accusation that the DHS is making 81 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,959 against this individual. It's not simply documenting number one and 82 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,319 number two. Like I said, the guy didn't even know 83 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:03,319 this lawyer was outside because he wasn't his lawyer. Here 84 00:06:03,399 --> 00:06:12,639 is what Joshua Long's partner, Gabrielle Sorge or Sorgye or Sorgee, 85 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,720 I don't know. This is what Gabrielle told the Observer 86 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:21,959 that Joshua Long was trying to quote deter agents from 87 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:31,240 terrorizing our community. Okay, so note the difference because deterring 88 00:06:32,439 --> 00:06:37,199 is not exactly the same as documenting, right, those things 89 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,959 are not automatically the same thing. It's not quite the 90 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:46,120 same unless you believe that simply videotaping somebody is going 91 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:50,120 to deter them from engaging in their operations. And sometimes, yes, 92 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:54,120 when you're videotaping, somebody could deter some sort of action. However, 93 00:06:55,079 --> 00:06:57,839 I'm not sure if you've seen this, but CBP does 94 00:06:57,879 --> 00:07:01,360 not seem to be deterred by these activity. They are not. 95 00:07:02,879 --> 00:07:06,199 They are continuing to walk around and do whatever they're doing, 96 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:10,639 and they're actually walking around with video cameras themselves. So 97 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,959 I'm not sure if everybody has got their stories straight 98 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,480 on this yet. As to what exactly Joshua Long was 99 00:07:17,519 --> 00:07:22,759 doing now, his friend Lucy Selby said that they were 100 00:07:22,839 --> 00:07:31,439 all watching agents and alerting neighbors. Okay, So you're blasting 101 00:07:31,439 --> 00:07:36,000 out information about an ongoing federal investigation. Okay. So I 102 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,680 guess that's more likely to be classified as deterrence, right, 103 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:44,120 like you're trying to deter or impede or obstruct. That's 104 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:47,639 a good word for it too. They followed agents into 105 00:07:47,639 --> 00:07:51,000 the parking lot and then agents blocked them in with 106 00:07:51,079 --> 00:07:56,360 their vehicles, she said. So this is all from their perspective, okay. 107 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:02,040 In response to an inquiry from the Charlotta an unsigned 108 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,720 media relations email from the US Department of Homeland Security 109 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:10,839 alleged that Long was arrested quote for vehicular assault against 110 00:08:10,879 --> 00:08:16,079 a federal agent. Now Long says that's not true. He 111 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:20,279 didn't do nothing wrong. He was released from the FBI 112 00:08:20,439 --> 00:08:26,319 office in Southwest Charlotte around six thirty pm, where he 113 00:08:26,439 --> 00:08:30,560 was embraced as if he had been held in ah 114 00:08:31,759 --> 00:08:35,919 in like an Iranian prison or a Hamas tunnel for 115 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,679 the last two years. He was embraced outside by supporters 116 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,679 and loved ones and He said in an interview that 117 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,799 he was charged with simple assault on a federal officer. 118 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,279 So he was charged, So note you have to go. 119 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:55,519 I'm on page two. It just says man documenting border 120 00:08:55,559 --> 00:09:00,080 patrol in Charlotte arrested freed Tuesday from FBI office he 121 00:09:00,159 --> 00:09:05,240 was charged. That headline could just as easily read man 122 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:09,679 charged with assault on federal official, because that's what he 123 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,799 was charged with. Even he acknowledges he was charged with that. 124 00:09:14,399 --> 00:09:19,480 Federal officers accused him of skimming their car. That's not 125 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,639 even in quotes. So the observer is they're they're the 126 00:09:22,639 --> 00:09:30,320 ones that are constructing this description skimming their car. I'm 127 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:35,159 assuming that means like sideswiping it or does that mean 128 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,440 something else? I don't know in like in vehicular assault 129 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:43,159 circles in the in the vehicular assault community, does skimming 130 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:47,639 mean something? I'm not up with the lingo there. They 131 00:09:47,639 --> 00:09:51,000 say he skimmed the CBB car when he was trying 132 00:09:51,039 --> 00:09:54,279 to evade them, but Long said he was following the 133 00:09:54,399 --> 00:09:57,759 agents to alert people that they were in the area, 134 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,519 which is not that's not actually addressing it. That's it's 135 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,399 not a denial. But he says he didn't do nothing. 136 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:08,519 Officers started coming after him, and he started driving aggressively, 137 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:12,200 they say, or Long said. Long said they were driving aggressively, 138 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,759 and he just tried to maneuver around them when he 139 00:10:15,799 --> 00:10:19,080 got cornered in a dead end, and he said agents 140 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,879 eventually pointed a gun at him and pulled him from 141 00:10:21,919 --> 00:10:26,440 his vehicle and arrested him on the ground. Now, any 142 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,919 law enforcement officer that just heard me read this description 143 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:37,039 knows this pattern. When describing the thing that got you arrested. 144 00:10:37,639 --> 00:10:41,679 You are never the villain, right, always the hero or 145 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:47,679 the victim. This is a narcissism. So this is what 146 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,720 you are doing when you're when you try to tell 147 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,200 the story in your most favorable light. I was out 148 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,879 there being a hero. I was out there just trying 149 00:10:54,919 --> 00:10:58,519 to document and alert people. I was following the training 150 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:02,759 that I got from the Communist Comrades an Indivisible Charlotte 151 00:11:02,799 --> 00:11:06,879 at that church training session. That's all I was doing. 152 00:11:06,919 --> 00:11:09,799 And then they started driving after me and I tried 153 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:11,840 to get around them. They got all aggressive, and I 154 00:11:11,879 --> 00:11:14,080 was just trying to get away and I just didn't 155 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,320 want to do anything wrong, and then they just arrested me. 156 00:11:18,159 --> 00:11:21,759 A friend who watched the incident, said Long never scraped 157 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:26,320 the agency's vehicle or the agent's vehicle. So you know 158 00:11:26,399 --> 00:11:30,960 he's impartial because he's one of his friends, and so 159 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:35,679 we know that. Okay, now we'll get to the lawyer here, 160 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,759 because the lawyer's story is also a little as the 161 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,440 kids would say, sus. You know, stories are powerful. They 162 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:46,080 help us make sense of things, to understand experiences. 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If 183 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,720 this were happening forty years ago with border patrol roundups, 184 00:12:59,759 --> 00:13:03,399 even Charlotte Democrats would have approved. Yeah. I made the 185 00:13:03,399 --> 00:13:06,759 point like this, this used to happen in America. I 186 00:13:06,799 --> 00:13:11,639 remember seeing this in TV shows, on the news, in 187 00:13:11,759 --> 00:13:16,120 movies when I was growing up, like that, you know, 188 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:21,240 immigration would come into some sweatshop, terrible condition workplace, and 189 00:13:21,279 --> 00:13:23,000 you know all of the illegal aliens would try to 190 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,159 run out the back door and stuff. I mean, I 191 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,200 know it's a TV show or movie, but this was 192 00:13:27,759 --> 00:13:31,799 everybody understood that this is what enforcement looks like. But 193 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:39,039 now suicidal empathy has taken over. So no, the Hellian says, 194 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,600 we have to hammer home that we should enforce as 195 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,519 we go so we do not end up in messes 196 00:13:45,639 --> 00:13:49,759 like this. It is this messy because of decades of 197 00:13:49,879 --> 00:13:57,519 half but enforcement Okay, yeah, no, it's it's what I 198 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,759 keep saying, like the decisions of the last forty years 199 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:05,879 and the ignoring of the issue, the deflection, deflection of 200 00:14:05,919 --> 00:14:10,360 the issue, the refusal to address it right that has 201 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,159 led us to this point. This is what it looks 202 00:14:13,279 --> 00:14:17,279 like when you ignore the problem for decades, you ignore 203 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:21,759 the will of your voters for decades. This is what 204 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:26,399 it ends up looking like. But we've got, you know, 205 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:30,120 lefties that are out there rolling around and trying to 206 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:35,360 impede the work of these border patrol agents. And from 207 00:14:35,399 --> 00:14:38,799 this story the Observer about this guy Joshua Long who 208 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:44,960 got arrested. Here's what the story says. I'm like halfway 209 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,919 through this lengthy piece. I think it's like four it's 210 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,399 two and a half pages, almost three pages long. Halfway through, 211 00:14:52,399 --> 00:14:55,799 more than halfway through, you finally get this information. For 212 00:14:55,879 --> 00:15:00,000 most of the afternoon and early evening, he sat handcuff 213 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:04,519 in an interview room. He said he spoke with FBI 214 00:15:04,679 --> 00:15:08,000 agents to convey his point of view on the incident. 215 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:13,000 He said, Okay, first off, don't ever talk to the 216 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,360 FBI without a lawyer. Okay, did you learn nothing from 217 00:15:16,399 --> 00:15:20,480 the law fair against Donald Trump and his entire orbit 218 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:25,159 of advisors and such. Right, don't talk to the FBI 219 00:15:25,559 --> 00:15:27,679 if they come to if they come asking you questions 220 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:33,559 about something, get a lawyer number one. Number two, The 221 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:38,480 fact that he talked with the FBI indicates that whatever 222 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,279 Miranda writes, they read him, and I'm assuming that they did. 223 00:15:42,919 --> 00:15:49,480 He waived them and spoke to the FBI. So it 224 00:15:49,519 --> 00:15:53,320 doesn't seem like he ever asked for a lawyer, Right, 225 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:55,720 it doesn't seem like that. If you're sitting there, you know, 226 00:15:55,759 --> 00:15:59,080 the FBI is like what happened because he said he 227 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:02,120 says in the piece that the FBI would talk to 228 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,679 the Border Patrol guys and they would come back and 229 00:16:04,679 --> 00:16:06,480 talk to him, and they were trying to figure out 230 00:16:06,519 --> 00:16:11,679 what exactly happened. So they were interviewing everybody. Well, if 231 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,679 you were worried, you should have had a lawyer there, 232 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:18,200 or you waived your rights, in which case then like 233 00:16:18,279 --> 00:16:21,399 you're talking freely to the FBI. Did you get a 234 00:16:21,399 --> 00:16:23,960 phone call? So like all this outrage, like, oh my gosh, 235 00:16:24,039 --> 00:16:26,480 he was detained and all this. Yeah, but he he 236 00:16:26,559 --> 00:16:30,519 agreed to talk with them. He was released after the 237 00:16:30,519 --> 00:16:34,000 agents went between him and Border Patrol for information about 238 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:40,720 what happened. He was greeted outside by his attorney, Xavier T. Dijanon, 239 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,200 and his partner and friends who were there when he 240 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:48,480 was arrested. The lawyer says, I'm feeling horrified. Then an 241 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,759 innocent person was held for six hours and disappeared from 242 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:55,799 the world. It was the first time the attorney and 243 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,639 long had met that day. Wait, so how is it 244 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:06,200 his attorney? Then? 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He and his friend, who claims to 272 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,200 have witnessed the whole thing, say he did nothing wrong. 273 00:18:49,319 --> 00:18:52,000 He sat for an interview with the FBI when they 274 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,400 When they did arrest him, and bring him in. The 275 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:58,440 FBI conducted the interviews and then they charged him. So 276 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:02,119 they charged him. He doesn't ever tell the observer or 277 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,839 the paper doesn't report whether or not he was offered 278 00:19:04,839 --> 00:19:10,400 a phone call, whether he claimed his right to remain silent, 279 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,680 if he ever asked for a lawyer. But there was 280 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:19,759 a lawyer outside the FBI facility, Xavier T. De Jannon 281 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:26,559 And when he was released, Joshua Long was released quote, 282 00:19:26,599 --> 00:19:30,480 it was the first time the attorney and Long had 283 00:19:30,519 --> 00:19:35,880 met that day. Had they ever met before? Did he 284 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,920 know there was a lawyer out front? No, An FBI 285 00:19:39,039 --> 00:19:43,359 agent told the lawyer outside that people arrested could not 286 00:19:43,559 --> 00:19:47,680 see their lawyers. He had waited to see Joshua Long 287 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:51,319 since three point fifty outside the FBI office on Microsoft Way. 288 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,079 Long said he was not told that a lawyer was 289 00:19:55,079 --> 00:19:57,759 looking to meet with him. He would have requested to 290 00:19:57,839 --> 00:20:03,880 see the lawyer if he had known that. Okay, did 291 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:05,839 you ask for a phone call? Did you ask for 292 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,640 a lawyer? Did you agree to answer questions without a 293 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:14,640 lawyer present? He's got a court date in May now. 294 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,759 Someone with the FBI informed him that the agency will 295 00:20:17,759 --> 00:20:20,720 not be allowing lawyers to visit with people facing such 296 00:20:20,839 --> 00:20:24,920 arrests until they have been questioned and processed. That's according 297 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:29,039 to the lawyer. He says, that's what the FBI told him. Charlotte. 298 00:20:29,079 --> 00:20:32,759 FBI spokesperson Shelley Lynch said in a short statement that 299 00:20:32,799 --> 00:20:36,839 the FBI is adhering to the law, but they do 300 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,400 not include that short statement in their story, So I 301 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,279 don't know exactly what the FBI said, but that does 302 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:46,839 seem to be problematic. I kind of feel like you 303 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:50,039 should probably be, you know, reading people their rights, and 304 00:20:50,079 --> 00:20:52,599 if somebody says I want a lawyer, they should have 305 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,920 a lawyer, even if they don't know that some guy 306 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,519 out front is a lawyer and is like, I'll represent you, 307 00:20:58,559 --> 00:21:04,279 I'll represent you. The lawyer says. Criminal defendant's access to 308 00:21:04,319 --> 00:21:06,720 counsel is one of the most fundamental rights in this country. 309 00:21:06,799 --> 00:21:09,440 So if a criminal defense attorney cannot visit someone who 310 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:13,519 has been accused of a crime while they're being questioned investigated, 311 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,920 then their fundamental rights are being violated. There are, of course, 312 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:22,680 instances where the right to counsel can be limited, but 313 00:21:22,759 --> 00:21:25,720 in this situation, I don't even have a police report, 314 00:21:25,799 --> 00:21:31,039 a case number, a booking number, and investigation open. One 315 00:21:31,079 --> 00:21:34,680 of the best follow up questions. Here's a free journalism tip, 316 00:21:35,559 --> 00:21:38,119 but it works very well in all sorts of discussions 317 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:43,240 on stuff. Best follow up question usually you can ask 318 00:21:43,319 --> 00:21:46,000 if if you don't have any follow ups already planned 319 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:53,079 and ready to go, how so, just ask how so so? 320 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,680 When this lawyer guy is saying to the reporter that 321 00:21:56,759 --> 00:21:59,960 there are, of course instances where the right to count 322 00:22:00,079 --> 00:22:06,440 so can be limited, you could ask, how so explain 323 00:22:06,519 --> 00:22:10,599 that give me one of those instances? Is this one 324 00:22:10,599 --> 00:22:15,599 of the instances? So? I don't know, and nobody else does. 325 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,720 It doesn't even seem like the reporters that covered the 326 00:22:17,759 --> 00:22:21,839 story understand all of the law that's at play and 327 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:27,359 what all occurred. Meanwhile, court records provide details about a 328 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:31,000 man who Customs and Border Protection agents alleged was following 329 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,319 them in Charlotte and then hit one agent with his car. 330 00:22:35,319 --> 00:22:40,119 This guy's name is Christobo Maltos. He followed agents as 331 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,039 they conducted stops and arrests on Monday, According to a 332 00:22:43,039 --> 00:22:46,720 criminal complaint filed in the US District Court of Western 333 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,880 North Carolina District, he reversed when agents first tried to 334 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:55,400 make contact with him Maltos later resumed following them, and 335 00:22:55,519 --> 00:22:59,079 three Border patrol cars and five agents surrounded him. The 336 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,839 agents asked him him for thirty seconds to roll down 337 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,839 his window. According to the court documents, one officer quote 338 00:23:06,079 --> 00:23:08,039 leaned over the hood of the vehicle on the front 339 00:23:08,079 --> 00:23:13,079 driver's side. Then Maltos's car moved forward about thirty feet 340 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:17,960 and its side mirror struck an officer. That's what they 341 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:22,839 allege occurred. Then the car reversed slowly and officers smashed 342 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,640 the driver's side window, opening the door and removing Maltos. 343 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:31,640 This was all captured on body camera. Agent said they 344 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:36,279 read Maltos his miranda rights, which he waved, and he 345 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,839 eventually admitted yes, he did move the vehicle forward in 346 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,920 first gear, but he claimed he was in shock and 347 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,680 was just trying to get away. See, I was just 348 00:23:45,799 --> 00:23:47,920 trying to evade arrest. I was just trying to flee 349 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,920 the scene. But he did not admit striking the officer. 350 00:23:53,279 --> 00:23:56,799 Maltos is charged with felony assault, resisting arrest, and impeding 351 00:23:56,839 --> 00:24:04,119 a federal officer. There's another named miguel An hell Garcia Martinez. 352 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,920 He faces the same charge. After federal agents alleged that 353 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,680 he weaponized his vehicle against them in the University City 354 00:24:11,759 --> 00:24:13,920 area on Sunday. And this is probably the video that 355 00:24:14,039 --> 00:24:17,839 you saw of the sprinter van jumping over medians, crossing 356 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,279 over into traffic, getting chased out and then eventually boxed 357 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:25,160 in and the driver arrested. And there's a woman facing 358 00:24:25,279 --> 00:24:29,599 the same charge as Martinez and Maltos. She was released 359 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:33,839 from jail Monday following her hearing. Details about her case 360 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:38,440 remained scant because her criminal complaint remained under seal yesterday, 361 00:24:38,759 --> 00:24:41,359 but family and community members told The Observer she was 362 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,720 arrested at a Sunday morning protest outside the Department of 363 00:24:44,759 --> 00:24:50,240 Homeland Securities Charlotte office. Martinez, Maltos, and this woman face 364 00:24:50,279 --> 00:24:52,960 a maximum sentence of eight years in prison and a 365 00:24:53,079 --> 00:24:56,880 quarter million dollar fine if they are convicted. Maltos and 366 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,920 the woman were released on twenty five thousand dollars unsecured bonds. 367 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:04,200 Martinez has a detention hearing this afternoon. 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All right, let me 389 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,480 jump over to the phones. John, Welcome to the program. 390 00:26:13,559 --> 00:26:17,079 Speaker 2: Hello John, Hey sir, Hey, I want to get a 391 00:26:17,079 --> 00:26:19,920 little clarity and use your magnificent mind to see it. 392 00:26:20,039 --> 00:26:21,000 You can help me here. 393 00:26:21,279 --> 00:26:22,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's tottering me up. 394 00:26:25,759 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, the nighte goes in better. Uh huh, all right, 395 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,799 yesterday you were indicating, yes, you came in illegally, just 396 00:26:35,319 --> 00:26:41,039 no questions asked, You're ready to be deported or should 397 00:26:41,079 --> 00:26:41,559 be deported. 398 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 1: That's the law. 399 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 2: Just slot out you came here illegally. That's it. 400 00:26:46,279 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 1: That's well, that's the law. But that's the law. 401 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:52,559 Speaker 2: Well okay, yeah, I know that's the law. So you know, 402 00:26:52,599 --> 00:26:58,319 people scream for comprehensive immigration reform. But if we ignore 403 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,519 that and just say that, okay, what does that look like? 404 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,559 Are we going to bend for the next two years, 405 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,599 four years, five years, eight years, round up and try 406 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:13,400 and find every single person and verify their their status 407 00:27:13,519 --> 00:27:16,319 immigration status if we hold to the law. 408 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: So is your what we're going to do? I mean, 409 00:27:19,799 --> 00:27:22,559 my preference is that we follow the law. Or if 410 00:27:22,599 --> 00:27:24,160 you don't like the law and you don't want to 411 00:27:24,319 --> 00:27:27,880 follow it, then you repeal that law. Those are the 412 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,640 options that those are the options in a society that 413 00:27:30,799 --> 00:27:32,279 is founded on law. 414 00:27:32,759 --> 00:27:35,279 Speaker 2: Sure, okay, all right, So what does that law look like? 415 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,039 What would you see that law looking like? 416 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: Well, there's there's many prongs to it. Right, You've got 417 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:44,200 your workplace enforcement that like you got you know your 418 00:27:44,279 --> 00:27:46,359 ways to verify, e verify and all of that. So 419 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:50,000 you've got those types of checks and such. You do 420 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,559 have a cooperation through a two eighty seven G program. 421 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,400 For example, when somebody gets arrested, they end up at 422 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,000 the jail, you run them through the ICE database, you 423 00:27:59,079 --> 00:27:59,680 get them ount that. 424 00:27:59,759 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 2: Way, right, So there's you're a dancing around the edges though, 425 00:28:02,599 --> 00:28:04,559 But I'm saying. 426 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 1: No, I'm telling you there are also there are many 427 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,960 different ways that enforcing the law is done. And you 428 00:28:11,079 --> 00:28:12,920 do it in the workplace, you do it in the 429 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,720 you do it in the jails. There are many ways 430 00:28:16,799 --> 00:28:18,519 that you go about enforcing that law. 431 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 2: Right exactly. But the point being, you're doing nothing except 432 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,480 going still going down the path of if you're here illegally, 433 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,039 that's it. Why that's you're gone. Right now, I'm going 434 00:28:30,079 --> 00:28:33,720 to use a mechanism of not allowing you to work here, 435 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,279 so hopefully you'll self deport. 436 00:28:35,759 --> 00:28:38,839 Speaker 1: But right, that's the law. But that's the law. And again, 437 00:28:39,559 --> 00:28:42,920 as we discussed yesterday, if you want people to be 438 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,680 able to come into the country to work in your 439 00:28:45,799 --> 00:28:50,759 construction company, then you do a work visa program, just 440 00:28:50,839 --> 00:28:52,759 like we have for the agricultural workers. 441 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 2: Right, And so in the meantime, while we're trying to 442 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,960 get that law and whatever that takes, that law's still 443 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,680 not going to cover the people that are here illegally. 444 00:29:03,319 --> 00:29:05,720 You know, they came twenty thirty, forty years ago. We're 445 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,039 still going to after them at some point. We're going 446 00:29:08,119 --> 00:29:10,799 to get them, is your point, right? 447 00:29:11,519 --> 00:29:15,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, if they if they cross paths with enforcement agents. Yeah, 448 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,799 whether that's whether that's a good policy that Look, that's 449 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:21,400 the law. 450 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 2: Well, no, I'm asking you. 451 00:29:24,119 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: No, you're asking me. You're asking me to ignore the law. 452 00:29:27,319 --> 00:29:30,319 You're saying, isn't it better if we just ignore these laws? 453 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,599 Speaker 2: The law. I'm asking you to write the law. You've 454 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:33,759 now got the pending page. 455 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,559 Speaker 1: Look, hey, hey, hey, John. I have been advocating for 456 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:43,079 immigration overhaul for twenty five years, and nobody has done it. 457 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,000 And that's why we are in the position we are in. 458 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,519 Speaker 2: I agree, right, and I agree that we should be 459 00:29:48,599 --> 00:29:51,240 doing it right now. We should be handling that law. 460 00:29:51,279 --> 00:29:53,359 And what does that look like? That's what I'm my question. 461 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,599 Speaker 1: I just gave you one. I gave you one example 462 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,359 of what it would look like, work being more work. 463 00:29:58,839 --> 00:30:00,839 I just said work. The one that you asked about 464 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,799 yesterday was about the construction field, and I said, just 465 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,799 as I just did now work visas for that industry. 466 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:07,799 Speaker 2: Right. 467 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: By the way, I got a lot of I have 468 00:30:10,839 --> 00:30:15,079 in my hands here. I've got text messages from probably 469 00:30:15,119 --> 00:30:17,839 half a dozen people in your field, in your industry 470 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,599 that are adamant against your position on this. 471 00:30:22,519 --> 00:30:27,079 Speaker 2: Well, I'm not defending my field. I'm defending common sense. 472 00:30:27,119 --> 00:30:29,799 And what do we do? How do we write this 473 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,440 and make comprehensive immigration a non issue? How do we 474 00:30:33,559 --> 00:30:33,880 fix it? 475 00:30:34,119 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: You first start, as I told you yesterday, You first 476 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,559 start with closing the border, right so, and we've got 477 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,440 that done, closing the border, keeping it closed, and then 478 00:30:43,519 --> 00:30:47,680 you do the enforcement mechanisms in the interior. That's what 479 00:30:47,759 --> 00:30:49,799 we're seeing, and that's that is what we are seeing. 480 00:30:49,839 --> 00:30:53,160 I got to run, John, I appreciate the call. Like again, 481 00:30:53,279 --> 00:30:57,119 I've given all of my thoughts on what immigration should 482 00:30:57,119 --> 00:30:59,559 look like over twenty five years. We are not at 483 00:30:59,599 --> 00:31:03,519 that point. All right, that'll do it for this episode. 484 00:31:03,559 --> 00:31:05,599 Thank you so much for listening. I could not do 485 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,799 the show without your support and the support of the 486 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,880 businesses that advertise on the podcast. So if you'd like, 487 00:31:11,079 --> 00:31:13,079 please support them too and tell them you heard it here. 488 00:31:13,279 --> 00:31:15,759 You can also become a patron at my patreon page 489 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,480 or go to thepetecleanershow dot com. 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