Speaker 1: Some new incredibly disturbing reporting from the New York Times
Speaker 1: detailing how detainees have been treated by the Trump regime's
Speaker 1: Immigration Customs Enforcement Agency. And when you read it, it's abusive,
Speaker 1: violent treatment, months in detention, moved from facility to facility
Speaker 1: to thwart the ability of these detainees to be able
Speaker 1: to find some legal recourse. Beaten by agents. deporting plane
Speaker 1: loads of deportees to third countries with which they have
Speaker 1: zero connection, like Liberia and Equatorial Guinea. When they're released
Speaker 1: in these third countries, they are put into the custody
Speaker 1: with armed guards watching them, so they're really not even
Speaker 1: free in these places that they are going. Some other
Speaker 1: incredibly horrific accounting of psychological torture from ICE officials while
Speaker 1: here on United States soil... tying up pregnant women, their
Speaker 1: hands and ankles tied together like cattle. Psychological warfare, moving
Speaker 1: more than six times, eight months in detention, moving from
Speaker 1: facility to facility, kept in detention centers with 50 people
Speaker 1: sharing one toilet, being held for days in cold rooms
Speaker 1: called the freezer.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is the type of stories that we
Speaker 2: are reading.
Speaker 1: And this is the norm, people. This is the norm
Speaker 1: for detainees. when they are being processed like animals by ICE.
Speaker 1: And there is a congresswoman who is facing criminal prosecution
Speaker 1: by the Trump DOJ, having been weaponized because why not
Speaker 1: scare into silence members of Congress by prosecuting them for
Speaker 1: doing their jobs? Think about how powerful it is. The
Speaker 1: chilling effect on members of Congress, Republicans and Democrats, let's
Speaker 1: be clear, who would speak out, who would go and
Speaker 1: do oversight, which is their legal and official responsibility to do,
Speaker 1: but they're not doing it because they are seeing one
Speaker 1: lone member of Congress, LaMonica McIver, being prosecuted for doing
Speaker 1: her job. And when I tell you that she saw
Speaker 1: before it was en vogue, for people to see the
Speaker 1: horrors of these detention facilities. She saw what was going
Speaker 1: on at Delaney Hall in May of 2025, and she
Speaker 1: went with two of her colleagues from the Congress to
Speaker 1: go and conduct oversight. Her legal responsibility, her official responsibility.
Speaker 2: She went and she did it.
Speaker 1: And for that, she's being punished because of a vengeful,
Speaker 1: vindictive Trump administration. that doesn't hesitate to weaponize its Department
Speaker 1: of Justice to silence critics and opponents, especially women of color.
Speaker 2: I want you to think about this.
Speaker 1: Congresswoman McIver is pregnant with her second child. In just
Speaker 1: a few months, she will be out on maternity leave.
Speaker 1: She is battling the, what I call, most powerful law
Speaker 1: firm in the world, the Department of Justice.
Speaker 2: She has a young child at home, a little.
Speaker 1: Girl, And I can't imagine the stress. You want to
Speaker 1: talk about psychological torture? That's what they're trying to exact
Speaker 1: on Congresswoman McIver. And yet, what does she do? She
Speaker 1: gets up every day and she goes and she does
Speaker 1: her job. And she does it well. And that must
Speaker 1: piss off the Trump administration. It must make them so
Speaker 1: mad that she's not hiding in the corner, cowering out
Speaker 1: of fear. She is standing up, speaking out, and doing
Speaker 1: her damn job every single day. And again, for that
Speaker 1: This DOJ is unrelenting. The trial court judge and federal
Speaker 1: court presiding over her criminal case denied her motion to dismiss.
Speaker 1: She appealed to the Third Circuit. She just got a
Speaker 1: ruling last week and a split vote. And unfortunately, her
Speaker 1: prosecution continues. So the prospect, the specter of a jury
Speaker 1: trial is now looming for Congresswoman McIver. But there is
Speaker 1: no alternative, right? Because the truth The truth is on
Speaker 1: her side. We saw what happened outside of Delaney Hall
Speaker 1: in May of 2025. We saw the chaos, the confusion,
Speaker 1: the calamity, the crowd, the shoving that was happening, not
Speaker 1: by the congresswoman, but by CBP, ICE, and other federal agents.
Speaker 2: It was chaos.
Speaker 1: And in the midst of that chaos, how in the
Speaker 1: world does the Trump administration say, that she assaulted federal officers.
Speaker 1: What I find to be incredibly remarkable is if Congresswoman
Speaker 1: McIver was such a threat, such a threat to these
Speaker 1: federal agents, why then take her on a guided escorted
Speaker 1: tour of Delaney Hall for two and a half hours
Speaker 1: after she allegedly assaulted federal officers? Why?
Speaker 2: Because she didn't do anything wrong in the first instance. Why?
Speaker 1: Because this administration is full of shit. And that's a
Speaker 1: legal concept. What a waste of time, energy, resources, money
Speaker 1: to prosecute a sitting member of Congress. And no, it's
Speaker 1: not a coincidence that she's a Democrat. And no, it's
Speaker 1: not a coincidence that she's Black and female. That is
Speaker 1: the defendant du jour of this particular Trump DOJ. This
Speaker 1: will all come back to blow up in their faces.
Speaker 1: But in the meantime, Congresswoman LaMonica McIver forges ahead, kicking ass,
Speaker 1: taking names, and doing her job exceptionally well. Because that's
Speaker 1: all she's ever known, and that's all she will continue
Speaker 1: to do. I invited her to sit down to talk
Speaker 1: about the latest of her case, but to focus on
Speaker 1: what she focuses on, which are the people, Americans, detainees.
Speaker 1: And why it's so critically, critically important to stay the course,
Speaker 1: even when the headwinds are strong and even when it
Speaker 1: seems like the deck is stacked against you.
Speaker 2: Take a listen.
Speaker 1: Joining me now for an incredibly important update and conversation
Speaker 1: is Congresswoman LaMonica McIver, representing New Jersey's 10th congressional district.
Speaker 2: Congresswoman, it's good to see you.
Speaker 1: I always wish you and I could have conversations under
Speaker 1: better circumstances, but you and I are realists, right? So
Speaker 1: we got to face the realities of what's going on here.
Speaker 1: The latest update being that the Third Circuit Court of
Speaker 1: Appeals declining to dismiss the indictment against you, three pending charges,
Speaker 1: two were upheld in terms of the denial of your
Speaker 1: motion to dismiss from the trial court level, and then
Speaker 1: a third being sent back for some more factual and
Speaker 1: kind of other like legal developments. But clearly not something
Speaker 1: you wanted to get from the Third Circuit.
Speaker 3: Absolutely. Well, first of all, it's good to see you, Katie.
Speaker 3: It's always good to be on with you to chat.
Speaker 3: I mean, definitely the opinion was not what we expected.
Speaker 3: It's not what I hoped and prayed for, obviously. And
Speaker 3: it's just honestly exhausting that this is still going on.
Speaker 3: It feels like it's been 20 years of battling this,
Speaker 3: but it's been over a year of dealing with this.
Speaker 3: And it's just unfortunate and just crazy that This is
Speaker 3: the focus of the Department of Justice right now, what
Speaker 3: they're focused on, literally trying to send me to jail
Speaker 3: for 17 years. And so definitely, you know, just just unbelievable. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know, look, I read and I hear the exposure
Speaker 1: in this case, 17 years in prison for you doing
Speaker 1: your job, conducting congressional oversight over a detention facility, which
Speaker 1: you are legally allowed.
Speaker 2: To do, despite what the Trump administration would like to say.
Speaker 1: You know, Congresswoman, I'm going to speak bluntly, as I
Speaker 1: always do, you are pregnant with your second child.
Speaker 2: You are due imminently.
Speaker 1: You have a child at home who is young. I mean,
Speaker 1: I want people to understand that this is obviously something
Speaker 1: that weighs heavily on you as you continue to do
Speaker 1: your duties as a representative of your district.
Speaker 2: But I mean, this has got to weigh on you
Speaker 2: so heavily.
Speaker 3: Absolutely. I mean, it's tiring, right? It's like I said,
Speaker 3: the only thing I can say to describe it is
Speaker 3: it's exhausting and it's disheartening to know that I'm being
Speaker 3: prosecuted for doing my job and having to raise the dollars,
Speaker 3: having to, you know, meet with lawyers all the time,
Speaker 3: fight this case for over a year now while being
Speaker 3: a mom, which Katie, you know, that's a taxing job
Speaker 3: by itself, you know, and then expecting the child as well.
Speaker 3: It's just, it's really, really just crazy. to be dealing
Speaker 3: with all of this. But at the same time, my
Speaker 3: joy is still intact, Katie. I'm still working, still doing
Speaker 3: my job, still serving the people of the 10th. We've
Speaker 3: had a successful, you know, a year in district, bringing
Speaker 3: back dollars to the district and standing up and fighting
Speaker 3: for the people that I represent despite all of it.
Speaker 3: And I'm sure that's not what this administration wanted me
Speaker 3: to do to keep flying high and keep keeping my
Speaker 3: head up, you know, through all of this, but I am,
Speaker 3: and I'm going to continue to do so and continue
Speaker 3: to fight and protect the people that, you know, God
Speaker 3: has assigned to me to protect.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're being humble here. I want to make
Speaker 1: sure people understand the numbers. Over $ 10 million you have
Speaker 1: brought back to your district, despite everything that the administration
Speaker 1: is throwing at you, including these outrageous criminal charges. More
Speaker 1: than $ 10 million you have brought back to your district
Speaker 1: for community projects. If this administration... worked half as hard
Speaker 1: as you to be able to deliver for the American people.
Speaker 1: I mean, gosh, we'd get a lot more done, but
Speaker 1: the reality is the weapon of the Department of Justice
Speaker 1: has now been well documented.
Speaker 2: It has been well seen by even a layperson, right?
Speaker 2: You don't have to be a.
Speaker 1: Lawyer to see what is happening here, number one. this
Speaker 1: administration targeting Black women, especially Black women in power, you,
Speaker 1: Tish James, Lisa Cook, and others. Number one, but number two,
Speaker 1: you remain the only member of Congress who is being
Speaker 1: prosecuted by Trump's DOJ.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, crazy. But at the same time, their
Speaker 3: agenda is never about helping the American people. It is
Speaker 3: about cruelty, chaos, and getting back at anyone who does
Speaker 3: not agree with them. They're critics. And this is what
Speaker 3: they've really been focused on. I mean, if they focused,
Speaker 3: if they put all the energy in prosecuting me and
Speaker 3: to helping the American people, we would have free health care. Literally,
Speaker 3: things would be affordable. There would be more housing. I mean,
Speaker 3: you name it. We can go on and on. But literally,
Speaker 3: they're truly focused on cruelty. And that is why there's
Speaker 3: such an emphasis on hurting Black and brown people, especially
Speaker 3: Black and brown women. I mean, from literally the cuts
Speaker 3: and rollbacks of maternal health care, more Black women are
Speaker 3: You know, giving birth from 300,000 plus Black women being
Speaker 3: driven out of the federal workforce to the individual attacks
Speaker 3: that you've mentioned already. It's horrible. But also even down
Speaker 3: to immigration, right? Immigration is a part of their, you know, desire,
Speaker 3: their racial racist desires. And this is why they're so
Speaker 3: focused on Black and brown immigrants. And while you go
Speaker 3: to these detention centers and that's all you see there
Speaker 3: is Black and brown immigrants there, right? who are, most
Speaker 3: of them are here legally, by the way. And it
Speaker 3: is just awful to, you know, know that they're doing this,
Speaker 3: that they're, you know, implementing cruelty laws. on people and
Speaker 3: your tax dollars are paying for this. Like this is
Speaker 3: not a freebie of cruelty. This is cruelty that is
Speaker 3: being sponsored by the American people. Delaney Hall itself, Katie,
Speaker 3: has a $ 2 billion contract with the government. Just imagine
Speaker 3: what that can pay for to literally do this. You know,
Speaker 3: it's awful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I want to talk about some of these
Speaker 1: immigration issues in a second, but I want to focus
Speaker 1: on something as well, which is affordability has recently become
Speaker 1: kind of a big catch word in a lot of
Speaker 1: the stuff leading up to November. But affordability and an
Speaker 1: understanding of what the regular population Working class American needs
Speaker 1: has been your focus even before you came to Congress.
Speaker 2: And I think people need to know this.
Speaker 1: That is not only been a hallmark of your time
Speaker 1: as a freshman in Congress, one of the youngest members
Speaker 1: in Congress coming out of especially your district. But that's
Speaker 1: been your hallmark, this idea of affordability and the understanding
Speaker 1: that everyday working Americans need an administration and a government
Speaker 1: that understands why it's there in the first place.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's one of the main reasons I came to Congress,
Speaker 3: to be honest with you. I mean, starting off at
Speaker 3: the local level, you know, Katie, you know, I served
Speaker 3: on the city council here in the city of Newark
Speaker 3: for two terms. And you really get to understand locally
Speaker 3: when you are literally boots on the ground, what people
Speaker 3: are battling from high rent prices to groceries, to healthcare,
Speaker 3: to childcare, expenses. These are things that are impacting people
Speaker 3: every day. And even now as a Congresswoman with 18
Speaker 3: cities now, I hear that from place to place of
Speaker 3: just how hard it is to survive, to wake up
Speaker 3: every day. You have career people with degrees who are
Speaker 3: working two to three jobs every just to make ends meet.
Speaker 3: And that is literally where, why I came to Congress
Speaker 3: to get more out of the federal government for people.
Speaker 3: And literally I find myself just one trying to keep
Speaker 3: myself out of jail for 17 years, but also, you know,
Speaker 3: keeping the things that we had, the crumbs that we have,
Speaker 3: that they're trying to snatch away. That wasn't enough in
Speaker 3: the first place. So it's, it's just disheartening to know
Speaker 3: that the American people are struggling and we have a
Speaker 3: president who An administration that's focused on everything else except
Speaker 3: for making Americans' lives better and affordable for them.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about immigration. You've mentioned it so far. You
Speaker 1: mentioned Delaney Hall. That obviously is the epicenter of the
Speaker 1: federal charges that you're facing. One thing that I think
Speaker 1: that doesn't get reported enough and I think is important
Speaker 1: to underscore right now, Congresswoman, is this. When you went
Speaker 1: to Delaney Hall, this was in May of 2025. We
Speaker 1: sit here, obviously more than a year later, and you've
Speaker 1: been suffering under these ridiculous charges. But a lot of
Speaker 1: people knew something was wrong with immigration last year.
Speaker 2: And they saw it.
Speaker 1: But I really feel like 2026 is when people started
Speaker 1: to really pay attention when we saw these huge immigration,
Speaker 1: you know, enforcement surges happening in different cities. And then
Speaker 1: we saw the deaths of the murders of people like
Speaker 1: Renee Nicole Goode and Alex Pratt in the streets. But
Speaker 1: the stuff that's happening in the streets is one thing.
Speaker 1: It's the stuff happening behind the walls of these detention
Speaker 1: facilities that we don't get to see because there's no
Speaker 1: transparency from this government. You are, are literally the tip
Speaker 1: of spear going out to Delaney in May of 2025.
Speaker 2: With two of your colleagues from Congress.
Speaker 1: And when you're there, you are able to see firsthand,
Speaker 1: and this is back in May, this is before they
Speaker 1: even got their big bullshit bill funding and even got
Speaker 1: even more money to be able to do this. Tell
Speaker 1: the people what you saw in the two and a
Speaker 1: half hours you were inside Delaney Hall even last year.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, once again, it's crazy to think that
Speaker 3: was 2025, right? Literally, it was just a couple of
Speaker 3: months after Trump was sworn into office. And Delaney Hall,
Speaker 3: which Katie, a lot of people don't know, it was
Speaker 3: one of the first huge detention centers to open up
Speaker 3: underneath Trump 2.0. And when we went there, awful. Conditions
Speaker 3: were awful. No access to food. The place literally looked
Speaker 3: like an empty warehouse, even though it operated as a
Speaker 3: halfway house, they called them here in the city years ago.
Speaker 3: But I mean, the phones were not working. At that point,
Speaker 3: we spoke to detainees who told us that they did
Speaker 3: not get access to medical care. They had been there
Speaker 3: for a couple of weeks and literally had not had
Speaker 3: their regular medication. I mean, people telling us, hey, I'm
Speaker 3: going to approve student visa. I'm going to approve a
Speaker 3: work permit. I don't know why I'm here. Like my
Speaker 3: paperwork is active. Literally no access to a lawyer, no
Speaker 3: access to court. This those were the things that we
Speaker 3: were hearing at the time in Delaney in May of
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five. And since then, it has escalated even
Speaker 3: more out of this facility from them having a riot there,
Speaker 3: from detainees escaping because they were not being fed, to
Speaker 3: literally at this point, we're at three deaths there, Katie,
Speaker 3: folks who have died from not getting medical attention there.
Speaker 3: Two pregnant women miscarried at this location because they denied
Speaker 3: them access of OBGYN care. Multiple detainees reporting sexual assaults.
Speaker 3: literally reporting abuses, retaliation, and once again, still moldy food,
Speaker 3: still no access to medical care. These are things that
Speaker 3: we're still hearing to this day. And I look at
Speaker 3: all of the things that have happened since May 2025,
Speaker 3: and it makes me kind of angry at the same
Speaker 3: time because it's like, I warned everyone May 2025 that
Speaker 3: this is what is happening at a place like Delaney.
Speaker 3: And even my other two colleagues who were with me
Speaker 3: that day Literally, we've been saying since day one, before
Speaker 3: it became popular.
Speaker 2: Katie, that- That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: They need to be abolished. These detention centers should not
Speaker 3: be open. Funding cruelty. And literally, I've said that for
Speaker 3: over a year. And it's like, now that everyone gets
Speaker 3: the opportunity to go to these places, see what's happening,
Speaker 3: other deaths happening across the country, them murdering people in
Speaker 3: broad daylight in the middle of the street, causing havoc
Speaker 3: and chaos on the American people. Now it's like, oh yeah,
Speaker 3: this is really- Yeah, it's been effed up. It's just
Speaker 3: that I had to be the first one along with
Speaker 3: my two colleagues that day to experience it. And now
Speaker 3: I'm paying the price for, you know, uncovering this cruelty.
Speaker 3: That's why they try. That's why they're trying to criminalize
Speaker 3: oversight and do this to me. Because they want to
Speaker 3: continue to operate in the dark. And that is why
Speaker 3: oversight is so important. And we try to explain this
Speaker 3: to the American people. And even I try to explain
Speaker 3: this to other members of Congress. This is what this
Speaker 3: is our job. This is what we should be doing,
Speaker 3: because literally we get to uncover the cruelty that is
Speaker 3: happening at these places. And that's why unannounced visits are
Speaker 3: so important to Katie, because you get to see these
Speaker 3: places in real time. They don't get to clean up
Speaker 3: and scrub up for you to come and give you
Speaker 3: a shiny visit. I want to see what detainees are
Speaker 3: going through each and every day. And that's why we
Speaker 3: showed up to Delaney in the first place last May
Speaker 3: to do that, to see what was happening to people
Speaker 3: under our watch and underneath the American people's watch. And
Speaker 3: the American people deserve to know what is happening and
Speaker 3: what they're paying for. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And what does it say that the Trump administration still
Speaker 1: doesn't want members of Congress to go in trying to
Speaker 1: throw up all these BS restrictions to access?
Speaker 2: And I want to underscore this.
Speaker 1: It is your job. It is your job as a
Speaker 1: member of Congress to conduct oversight. And oversight includes physically going.
Speaker 1: I mean, people think, well, you're supposed to just stay
Speaker 1: in D.C. You're supposed to stay in the Capitol and
Speaker 1: never go. You're going to go to where the issues
Speaker 1: are happening. It is your job to go and conduct oversight.
Speaker 1: If you didn't go, I'd be mad. I'd be mad
Speaker 1: as somebody who's in your jurisdiction, a constituent saying, what
Speaker 1: the hell are you doing? Why are you not making
Speaker 1: sure that things are going right by these people or
Speaker 1: they're doing their jobs the way you're supposed to do it?
Speaker 2: The numbers are appalling.
Speaker 1: And the 500 days since Trump was inaugurated on January 20th, 2025,
Speaker 1: until early June, at least 52 people have died. Those
Speaker 1: are just the numbers that we can actually get official, right?
Speaker 1: ICE has admitted that 52 people have died in ICE custody.
Speaker 1: And yet when you were back there in May of 2025,
Speaker 1: and by the way, footnote, and you don't even have
Speaker 1: to respond to this, if you were such a physical
Speaker 1: threat of harm to anybody, I don't know why they
Speaker 1: let you hang out there for two and a half
Speaker 1: hours inside that facility.
Speaker 3: Makes you kind of wonder. And took me on a
Speaker 3: tour after that.
Speaker 2: Take you on a guided tour.
Speaker 1: If you're such a threat physically, people are in fear
Speaker 1: of their safety. Not sure why they let you hang
Speaker 1: out there for an additional two and a half hours,
Speaker 1: but we'll deal with that when time comes. But now
Speaker 1: the New York Times yesterday with some more reporting about
Speaker 1: deporting people to third countries they don't even have any
Speaker 1: association to, Liberia, Equatorial Guinea, but then saying That is
Speaker 1: psychological warfare, moving these detainees from place to place. One
Speaker 1: guy was moved in eight months to six different places.
Speaker 1: Deportees reporting they're constantly moved, kept in detention centers where
Speaker 1: up to 50 people share a single toilet, held in
Speaker 1: painfully cold room without beds called the freezer, tying up
Speaker 1: pregnant women with their hands and ankles like cattle. And
Speaker 1: that is the stuff that you are trying to expose
Speaker 1: that this administration is doing now. And instead of changing
Speaker 1: their ways, they weaponize the Department of Justice and they
Speaker 1: go after you to prosecute you to do what? To
Speaker 1: shut you up, to silence you, and to make other
Speaker 1: peoples of Congress too scared to say anything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly it. And all of those reports, just
Speaker 3: like the SOS letter that came out of Delaney Hall,
Speaker 3: these are all true accounts. Because I know, I've seen
Speaker 3: them myself, and I've spoken to detainees personally about these things.
Speaker 3: And not to mention, Katie- The point that you mentioned
Speaker 3: about some of the things that folks reported in the
Speaker 3: New York Times yesterday.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 3: There are so many people in Delaney itself who have
Speaker 3: literally are so depressed and their backs are against the wall.
Speaker 3: They've done nothing. They have no criminal record where they
Speaker 3: have signed volunteer deportation agreements with the government.
Speaker 2: They're desperate.
Speaker 1: They're desperate or they're being duped into doing it.
Speaker 2: Desperate or duped is the way I look at it, right?
Speaker 3: Or that they want to change their conditions to get
Speaker 3: out of there because who wants to be caged in
Speaker 3: detention when you've done nothing wrong and you can possibly
Speaker 3: die at these places and you're being mistreated every day.
Speaker 3: You're going to say, look, send me back to my
Speaker 3: country of origin, hopefully. Do you know that there's so
Speaker 3: many people who are still waiting for I mean, they've
Speaker 3: been transferred three to four times since signing an agreement
Speaker 3: to end up back at Delaney Hall waiting and waiting.
Speaker 3: Because at the end of the day, Katie, what is
Speaker 3: this all about? It's about money and cruelty. And these
Speaker 3: people are getting so much money from people. holding detainees,
Speaker 3: from deporting more folks, for detaining more people. They're making money.
Speaker 3: This is a business. And this same business like GEO Group,
Speaker 3: who operates Delaney, they're the same people who pour millions
Speaker 3: of dollars back into Republican campaigns. And they fund campaigns.
Speaker 3: They funded the president's campaign.
Speaker 2: Big lobby.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a big business. And so it's also following
Speaker 3: the dollars about all of this as well, which I
Speaker 3: keep pointing out to people. So it's just it's horrible.
Speaker 3: It's horrible that for so long, Americans have talked about
Speaker 3: other countries and how they implement cruelty and how folks
Speaker 3: are treated in their countries. And literally, we have become
Speaker 3: one of those countries because one, Donald Trump is mistreating
Speaker 3: the American people each and every day. But secondly, look
Speaker 3: what we're doing to these folks in detention centers, literally
Speaker 3: inserting cruelty and chaos on them every day and killing them.
Speaker 3: Killing them, Katie. This is underneath the watch of the
Speaker 3: federal government. It's horrible and disheartening. And we should be
Speaker 3: better than this as a country. And that's why this
Speaker 3: should matter to everyone, because it's horrible. It's inhumane. And
Speaker 3: in Donald Trump's world and Republicans, it's not Christian like
Speaker 3: for sure. No Bible ever told them to do any
Speaker 3: of this. And it's horrible, hard, just horrible to watch.
Speaker 1: Look, you know, you're just doing your job when you
Speaker 1: went to Delaney. It's a part of your ability. You
Speaker 1: are so immune from prosecution because you're doing your job.
Speaker 1: As a lawyer, respectfully, I understand judges, they get it
Speaker 1: wrong sometimes. But, you know, people need to understand that.
Speaker 1: that a criminal prosecution has very serious consequences. Congress is
Speaker 1: not made up of just Democrats, though. Congress is made
Speaker 1: up of Republicans as well. In fact, they have the
Speaker 1: power trifecta right now in the Senate, the House, and
Speaker 1: the Oval Office. So all of the bad stuff that
Speaker 1: we are seeing right now as Americans is the Republicans'
Speaker 1: responsibility because if Democrats were in the majority, that would
Speaker 1: be a different situation. There is something that I read
Speaker 1: in a piece that came out A few months ago,
Speaker 1: that was just incredible. The support that you are getting
Speaker 1: from some of your fellow female Democratic women is pretty impressive.
Speaker 1: But you were asked something about your Republican colleagues, and
Speaker 1: I want to make sure people hear this. One Republican
Speaker 1: congresswoman recently pulled you aside and asked if the charges
Speaker 1: were still happening. When you said yes, the woman said,
Speaker 1: that's some BS. You were stunned, according to this piece.
Speaker 1: I wanted to say, why don't you say.
Speaker 2: That out loud?
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean... You know, Republicans, if they would actually
Speaker 1: do their job, would be looking at the same consequences, right?
Speaker 1: If you go and you do your job, you're going
Speaker 1: to get punished. Of course, this DOJ would never do
Speaker 1: that against a Republican. But why is it that your
Speaker 1: Republican colleagues are not stepping up and saying, this is
Speaker 1: some BS out loud publicly?
Speaker 2: Because it is. Why are they not doing this?
Speaker 3: Well, one... I'm happy you bring up the point, which
Speaker 3: I always say, this is not just about LaMonica McIver.
Speaker 3: This is about every member of Congress being able to
Speaker 3: do their job. And while it looks nice that, you know,
Speaker 3: Republicans are in charge and, you know, they feel protected and,
Speaker 3: you know, above all else, they won't be in charge forever. Like,
Speaker 3: you know, and at the end of the day, you know,
Speaker 3: this can happen to them as well, you know, literally.
Speaker 3: And so they should give a damn about it. They
Speaker 3: should be protected. their right to do their job, not
Speaker 3: for themselves, but for the people they represent, number one,
Speaker 3: because they're their voices in the halls of Congress and
Speaker 3: they should be protecting that right. Secondly, I think one,
Speaker 3: this woman who's a nice woman, I mean, a nice lady,
Speaker 3: but when she said that to me, I literally, my
Speaker 3: mouth was on the floor. Like I was blown away.
Speaker 3: I'm like, what? Like, are you talking to me? I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 3: this is some BS. You know, you guys should say that,
Speaker 3: you know? But at the same time, they just don't
Speaker 3: have the courage or the balls to do it. Katie,
Speaker 3: they are scared to death. They're literally on marching orders
Speaker 3: to carry out whatever the agenda is of the president.
Speaker 3: And they're scared to speak up, scared to speak up
Speaker 3: for their residents. Knowing some of this stuff that is happening,
Speaker 3: most of it is wrong and it's hurting their districts individually.
Speaker 3: But for God's sake, are they going to say anything?
Speaker 3: I mean, no, they're not. All it takes is literally saying,
Speaker 3: a good 10 to 15 of them to bound together
Speaker 3: to say, this is going to stop today. And they
Speaker 3: do not have the courage to do so. And that's
Speaker 3: something that is lacking in today's leadership is courage. And
Speaker 3: you need courage to be able to lead, period. But
Speaker 3: specifically in times that we're in right now with this
Speaker 3: very vicious administration, you have to stand up. It comes
Speaker 3: with personal sacrifice. I know that very well, Katie. But
Speaker 3: at the same time, you're sworn in. to an oath
Speaker 3: to protect people and represent them. And that is something
Speaker 3: that we have to take into account, right, as members
Speaker 3: of Congress or anybody in any leadership role, you have
Speaker 3: to step up to the plate. And, you know, everyone's
Speaker 3: just not built for that, you know, and that's why
Speaker 3: they should not be in leadership because this is a
Speaker 3: test to people having enough, you know, braveness, right, and
Speaker 3: courage to really lead and do what they need to
Speaker 3: do for the American people. And When she told me that,
Speaker 3: I just was like, wow, like you can say that
Speaker 3: to me. You can have a straight face and enough
Speaker 3: like courage to say that to me privately of what
Speaker 3: I'm going through. But you can't say that publicly. I mean,
Speaker 3: I just it honestly was a shocker, but I can
Speaker 3: understand why they are so scared. It's a tough battle.
Speaker 3: You know, it's a tough battle, but I'll do it
Speaker 3: all over again, Katie, because that's what I signed up
Speaker 3: to do. And I take my job really seriously.
Speaker 1: Well, you, as always, show a level of grace despite
Speaker 1: hardship that most people couldn't endure, especially this long, especially
Speaker 1: being pregnant with your second child, especially always continuing to
Speaker 1: keep your head down and doing the job that your
Speaker 1: constituents elected you to do. The perversion of justice that
Speaker 1: has happened under this administration, I speak out against every day.
Speaker 1: but this is especially an abomination. This is especially an
Speaker 1: abuse of power. One member of your staff who's incredible,
Speaker 1: she said with regards to this outcome from the Third Circuit,
Speaker 1: Congresswoman McIver was first, but she will not be the last,
Speaker 1: and these protections are more critical than ever. Fantastic words
Speaker 1: for everybody to understand and hear because they're trying to
Speaker 1: use you as a test case and they will fail
Speaker 1: miserably because the truth is on your side. We've seen
Speaker 1: what happened that day. We know why you were there
Speaker 1: and you shouldn't be criminally prosecuted for doing your job.
Speaker 1: Congresswoman LaMonica McIver, I support you. I stand with you.
Speaker 1: I know so many others do. And I'm grateful that
Speaker 1: you have your voice and you continue to use it.
Speaker 1: Thank you for joining me today.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Katie. And as always, thank you for what
Speaker 3: you do. Folks don't say thank you enough to the
Speaker 3: media who is brave enough to put out the truth
Speaker 3: and the facts. And I'm super grateful for you and
Speaker 3: for your advocacy and even all your work around the
Speaker 3: Epstein files in the case. I mean, bravo. Thank you
Speaker 3: for what you're doing. Don't ever think that we're not
Speaker 3: grateful for you for the work that you do and
Speaker 3: the sacrifices that you make. Thank you. It's always good
Speaker 3: to see you.
Speaker 2: It's good to see you. Katie Fang here.
Speaker 1: We launched the Katie Fang News Channel in partnership with
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Speaker 1: So if you're a fellow truth teller, hit that subscribe
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Speaker 1: can build a high information America together. Some exclusive reporting
Speaker 1: from the Washington Post this weekend about how the Pentagon
Speaker 1: under Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth has secretly installed conservative
Speaker 1: influencers in order to promote, to peddle, and to try
Speaker 1: to sell to the American people not only Hegseth's ridiculous
Speaker 1: policies that are pursuing a war on woke agenda, but
Speaker 1: to also try to gin up support for convicted felon
Speaker 1: Donald Trump's illegal war against Iran and other absurdities that
Speaker 1: he perpetrates on the American people on a daily basis. Now,
Speaker 1: according to this reporting from the Washington Post, it identified
Speaker 1: some specific people that apparently have never been disclosed by
Speaker 1: the Pentagon or the Department of Defense having government roles
Speaker 1: within this Trump administration. One example is a guy by
Speaker 1: the name of Rob Maness, a retired Air Force colonel,
Speaker 1: a guy named Kurt Schlichter, a retired Army colonel. Now,
Speaker 1: the Washington Post looked at records at the Pentagon, and
Speaker 1: apparently these two men in particular have.
Speaker 2: Active official records.
Speaker 1: Government email addresses, and they are also assigned within the
Speaker 1: Pentagon to the office of Anthony Tata, the Undersecretary of
Speaker 1: Defense for Personnel and Readiness. There's another guy who previously
Speaker 1: was appearing to have an email address and an assignment
Speaker 1: to Tata's office as well. His name is is Thomas Anderson,
Speaker 1: a retired Army colonel and also a conservative influencer.
Speaker 2: If you go to X, you can see him writing.
Speaker 2: He's an attorney.
Speaker 1: Apparently, he writes under a pen name. But then when
Speaker 1: the Washington Post checked the Pentagon records late last week,
Speaker 1: apparently his name no longer appears listed as a part
Speaker 1: of Pentagon employment. Now, here's what's really important. We know
Speaker 1: that Secretary of Defense Hegseth has cracked down on access
Speaker 1: to the Pentagon and the DOD. If you'll recall, the
Speaker 1: Pentagon overhauled who would be able to obtain a press
Speaker 1: pass and required kind of like a blood oath. People
Speaker 1: in the press had to sign a piece of paper
Speaker 1: indicating that they would agree to restrictions and limitations that
Speaker 1: previously did not exist and it also contained threats of
Speaker 1: prosecution etc for disclosure of classified information etc listen we
Speaker 1: all know that the classified documents etc that there's laws
Speaker 1: that pertains to it but kind of in this campaign
Speaker 1: of intimidation and coercion that we've seen implemented by this
Speaker 1: administration hexup was taking it a little bit even further
Speaker 1: at the pentagon and the dod and several several legacy
Speaker 1: media institutions refused to sign that memorandum. So instead, you
Speaker 1: get people like, I don't know, Laura Loomer, for example,
Speaker 1: at the Pentagon, right? So what's outrageous about this, though,
Speaker 1: is multi, I guess, fold.
Speaker 2: One, if.
Speaker 1: This is a Department of Defense that has sworn to
Speaker 1: uphold the laws and to defend our country and really
Speaker 1: should be nonpartisan, the employment of conservative influencers.
Speaker 2: Blows that shit out of the water, right?
Speaker 1: How can you be nonpartisan if you're hiring conservative influencers
Speaker 1: to peddle policy, positive policy pushing, right? And then number two,
Speaker 1: for a Department of Defense that has committed itself to
Speaker 1: measures of transparency, how transparent are you being if you're
Speaker 1: never disclosing that these people are on the payroll? And
Speaker 1: that's the other thing. So according to this Washington Post piece,
Speaker 1: You can either be a special government employee or a
Speaker 1: highly qualified expert. This guy Schlichter, and we're going to
Speaker 1: get into him and menace in a second. Schlichter is
Speaker 1: a quote, highly qualified expert in what nobody has any idea.
Speaker 1: Special government employees are limited by law to specific 130
Speaker 1: days only at any 365 day period. Highly qualified experts
Speaker 1: can work full or part time with or without compensation.
Speaker 1: Right now, who knows? how they're getting paid, how much
Speaker 1: they're getting paid. I sincerely doubt they're working for free, right?
Speaker 1: So does that mean that my taxpayer money is going
Speaker 1: to fund a conservative influencer who's being paid with my
Speaker 1: taxpayer money to push kegs breath and convicted felon Donald
Speaker 1: Trump's bullshit? This Tata guy, the Undersecretary of Defense for
Speaker 1: Personnel and Readiness, apparently has, quote, taken on a number
Speaker 1: of culture war issues. including scrutinizing war colleges for, quote,
Speaker 1: woke ideology and reviewing how the Biden administration adopted COVID
Speaker 1: vaccine mandates for U.S.
Speaker 2: Troops. Because that's the concern.
Speaker 1: Like a legal war against Iran, a billion dollars a day,
Speaker 1: more than 18 active service members dead as a result
Speaker 1: of this illegal war.
Speaker 2: That's your concern. National security issues.
Speaker 1: I mean, the problems abound for our country, both domestic
Speaker 1: and international, and those that implicate our armed forces. And
Speaker 1: yet the concern is scrutinizing war colleges for woke ideology
Speaker 1: and COVID vaccine mandates. I mean, this is the priorities
Speaker 1: that have been put into place when you have a
Speaker 1: cabinet member like Pete Hegseth. And I wrote about him
Speaker 1: in my Substack this weekend, this absurd idea that he's
Speaker 1: exploring Iran to be the president of the United States.
Speaker 1: The idiot of war, Pete Hegseth.
Speaker 2: Now, here's what's interesting, too.
Speaker 1: Another conservative influencer by the name of Jennica Pounds went
Speaker 1: on social media and accused a member of the State
Speaker 1: Department in the Trump administration of trying to entrap her
Speaker 1: in order to publish government secrets. But then that State
Speaker 1: Department official, Sarah Rogers, comes out. She's the undersecretary of
Speaker 1: state for public diplomacy. She comes out on social media.
Speaker 1: Why any of these assholes are going out on social
Speaker 1: media of all places to be doing this is beyond me.
Speaker 1: And apparently she says, I'm the official who reached out
Speaker 1: to Jennica Pounds. And and Rogers says, I posted the
Speaker 1: documents myself. It was not a trap. And then Pounds
Speaker 1: later says, I regret making a public spectacle and pulling
Speaker 1: people I respect into the swirl. Sarah Rogers is nominated
Speaker 1: by Felon Trump to lead the U.S. Agency for Global Media,
Speaker 1: which oversees Voice of America and other government-funded media.
Speaker 2: This is how messy these people are.
Speaker 1: Not only the conservative influencer pounds, but then you actually
Speaker 1: have the Undersecretary of State for Public Diplomacy being this
Speaker 1: messy on social media publicly. You don't think this is
Speaker 1: humiliating on the global stage for our country?
Speaker 2: Now, listen to this.
Speaker 1: Apparently, though, As a result of all of this, the
Speaker 1: Pentagon had to disclose, and Jenica Pounds also disclosed, that
Speaker 1: she works as a special government.
Speaker 2: Employee for the Department of Defense. So you had another one.
Speaker 1: They're like cockroaches. Turn on the lights, they're all going
Speaker 1: to scatter. But they're all coming out. All coming out
Speaker 1: of the woodwork. So we find out now we have
Speaker 1: this other influencer by the name of Jenica Pounds, right?
Speaker 1: She's been working for the Department of Defense since July. Again,
Speaker 1: am I paying as an American taxpayer? Are you as
Speaker 1: an American taxpayer paying for this woman to be there
Speaker 1: peddling the bullshit from this administration? Now, just in May
Speaker 1: of this year, Rob Maness, Kurt Schlechter, and this Anderson person,
Speaker 1: what's their first name?
Speaker 2: Thomas Anderson.
Speaker 1: They went on behalf of the Pentagon's Senior Service College
Speaker 1: Task Force and they went to the Army War College.
Speaker 1: And when they were there, they had the goal of
Speaker 1: rooting out ideology deemed toxic or woke.
Speaker 2: And that's according to Pete Kegsbroth.
Speaker 1: So they met with students and professors at the Army
Speaker 1: War College and asked them questions like, how do you
Speaker 1: think Kegsbroth is doing? How do you think General Dan
Speaker 1: Cain is doing? You know, Cain is the chair of
Speaker 1: the Joint Chiefs of Staff. WAPO reporting that some students
Speaker 1: were uncertain about how candid they could be with their answers.
Speaker 1: because they feared negative consequences if the administration found out
Speaker 1: that they were criticizing the administration and didn't like their answers.
Speaker 1: This is the Army War College. This is the climate
Speaker 1: of fear that has been generated, where you don't feel
Speaker 1: comfortable being able to speak out in any way about
Speaker 1: the performance of government officials, which we know is piss poor, right?
Speaker 1: Highly disqualifying conduct. And yet, The fish rots from the
Speaker 1: head down, so we're not surprised because it goes chomp down.
Speaker 2: Another person familiar with this.
Speaker 1: Visit to War College tells WAPO that the task force members, Schlichter, Maness,
Speaker 1: and Anderson, had concerns about the syllabus for a class
Speaker 1: that focused on how military officers communicate with Congress. So
Speaker 1: let's look at some examples of Maness and Schlichter specifically.
Speaker 1: I went to their Twitter pages or profiles, whatever, sparing
Speaker 1: you having to go do with it.
Speaker 2: And let me tell you something. It's kind of interesting.
Speaker 1: So let's start with this Maness guy. So when you
Speaker 1: go to Maness, he's posting all sorts of crazy caca,
Speaker 1: including his pinned post. As you see on your screen
Speaker 1: right now, I stand with President Trump, Team Trump 2024.
Speaker 1: And this is as far back as August 1st of 2023.
Speaker 1: Don't forget, kids, regime media is still fake news. That's
Speaker 1: the post right below it. But then I want to
Speaker 1: scroll down a little bit because this is the one.
Speaker 1: On August 30th, he says, criticism of the fact that
Speaker 1: a statue of Stonewall Jackson was being removed from Virginia's
Speaker 1: Capitol Square says, He said, it is past time to
Speaker 1: reinstall the Reconciliation Monument in Arlington Cemetery. And he tags
Speaker 1: Pete Kagsbreath and says, save America's history for our children's sake.
Speaker 1: Do you want to know what the Reconciliation Monument in
Speaker 1: Arlington Cemetery is? It's a memorial in Arlington that commemorated
Speaker 1: members of the armed forces of the Confederate States of
Speaker 1: America who died during the American Civil War. In 2022,
Speaker 1: the naming commission recommended that the memorial be removed. Then-Secretary
Speaker 1: of Defense Lloyd Austin agreed. Arlington National made plans to
Speaker 1: remove and relocate it. It was removed in December of 2023.
Speaker 1: In 2025, of course, Pete Kagsbreath said the monument would
Speaker 1: be returned and put on display in 2027.
Speaker 2: So folks, that's Rob Maness.
Speaker 1: WAPO also including in its piece in an article published
Speaker 1: last month by the conservative Daily Caller, Maness argued that
Speaker 1: Hex's team needs to root out, quote, disloyal career employees
Speaker 1: in the Department of Defense and laments careerists who treat
Speaker 1: the Pentagon as their permanent fiefdom. So we all know
Speaker 1: what this guy's all about. This Kurt Schlichter guy is
Speaker 1: also a columnist with the conservative town hall. On August 6th,
Speaker 1: he published a column calling Trump a hero for finally
Speaker 1: fighting back against Iran. I wonder how fellow veterans feel
Speaker 1: about the fact that he's saying that with 18, at
Speaker 1: least 18 active service members dead as a result of
Speaker 1: this illegal war. Praising Trump, he said, Trump could have
Speaker 1: waltzed into the midterms, dragging Republicans behind him towards success,
Speaker 1: but he had the courage to do what was necessary
Speaker 1: to stop these bastards before they made it impossible to
Speaker 1: prevent them from getting a nuclear bomb.
Speaker 3: Ha, ha, ha.
Speaker 1: The joke is on Schlichter. Does he know what the
Speaker 1: status is of the nuclear capabilities of Iran? How's that
Speaker 1: Strait of Hormuz working out for you? On August 14th
Speaker 1: on Twitter, Schlichter posts this. We are lucky to have
Speaker 1: Pete Hegseth tagging Pete in an incredibly ass-kissing way. Thomas Anderson,
Speaker 1: frequent critic of journalists, fellow veterans, and others opposing the
Speaker 1: Trump administration, defending Hegseth's efforts to overhaul military affairs. Okay,
Speaker 1: what else do we see from Kurt Schlichter? On August 27th,
Speaker 1: he posts good news. on a repost from James Tallarico,
Speaker 1: who said, breaking, Liam Tadeo was just deported by ICE.
Speaker 1: For those of you that don't know, Liam Tadeo was
Speaker 1: a five-year-old child who was arrested when he was with
Speaker 1: his father. And they were arrested by ICE in Texas,
Speaker 1: and he and his father were detained on August 16th,
Speaker 1: held at the disgusting Dilley detention facility, and then he
Speaker 1: was deported to Mexico. And the video was jarring, as always,
Speaker 1: seeing a five-year-old child crying, Um, anyway, it's just, yeah.
Speaker 1: So Schlichter is the kind of person who says good
Speaker 1: in response to that. I mean, these are the people, again,
Speaker 1: would love to know how much money are we paying them?
Speaker 1: I don't know which one is worse, huh? Are we
Speaker 1: using our, is our money being used to pay these people? Um,
Speaker 1: while people who have opposing viewpoints get punished, which I'm
Speaker 1: going to get to in a second, or if they're
Speaker 1: not getting paid, how fuck do you have to be
Speaker 1: in the head to be doing this for free? In
Speaker 1: the meantime, Air Force Major Jason Watson, who has publicly
Speaker 1: expressed his disgust for the Trump administration, 14 months ago,
Speaker 1: wrote on an anonymous Substack channel about felon Trump, called him, quote,
Speaker 1: a greedy, unintelligent, narcissistic, pathological liar, traitor, and coward.
Speaker 2: Sounds pretty accurate to me. I detect no lies.
Speaker 1: And then in July, outside the U.S. Capitol, as you know,
Speaker 1: he was arrested for For protesting on the steps of
Speaker 1: the Capitol, he held a sign stating impeach, convict, remove.
Speaker 1: Last week, 10 counts revealed of military charges filed against
Speaker 1: him covering six incidents. The Substack post I just referenced,
Speaker 1: two media interviews, the Capitol steps protest, and two accusation
Speaker 1: of dissipating orders involving personal travel and his more recent
Speaker 1: uniform requirements because he wore his uniform when he was
Speaker 1: doing some of these things. The Air Force said he
Speaker 1: made improperly contemptuous remarks about the president and engaged in
Speaker 1: dereliction of duty and conduct unbecoming of an officer. Now,
Speaker 1: here's what was so rich, folks. In a statement last month,
Speaker 1: Air Force Secretary Troy Mink said, the investigation of Watson
Speaker 1: is driven by concerns over conduct that could, quote, undermine
Speaker 1: the nonpartisan nature of our military, end quote. undermine the
Speaker 1: nonpartisan nature of our military? Is it nonpartisan to hire
Speaker 1: conservative influencers to work for the Pentagon and the Department
Speaker 1: of Defense? To sing praises of Pete Hegseth? To sing
Speaker 1: praises of convicted felon Donald Trump? To push on social
Speaker 1: media ideas that what they, as in Trump and Hegseth,
Speaker 1: are doing are good and for the betterment of the
Speaker 1: American people? Does that sound like quote, nonpartisan nature of
Speaker 1: our military. I submit to you, it is not. The
Speaker 1: hypocrisy is rank. Now, putting aside whether Major Watson in
Speaker 1: uniform should be doing what he is doing, I do
Speaker 1: think the hypocrisy should be called out.
Speaker 2: What we're doing here.
Speaker 1: Apparently, cases rising to, quote, contemptuous language charges are almost
Speaker 1: unheard of, according to a lawyer who deals with these
Speaker 1: types of stuff, a military lawyer. He said it's very
Speaker 1: rare to see these charges, but it's just as rare
Speaker 1: to see an officer make these kinds of comments in
Speaker 1: such an open forum. But the thought is that Major
Speaker 1: Watson got to the point of such desperation to express
Speaker 1: how he felt about what was going on, not only
Speaker 1: to his country, but to his fellow officers. He felt
Speaker 1: compelled to do this. A graduate of the U.S. Air
Speaker 1: Force Academy, Major Watson entered active duty in 2009, serving
Speaker 1: in Alaska, the southwestern U.S., the Pacific Rim, Europe, and
Speaker 1: the Middle East. He's also served as a logistics readiness
Speaker 1: officer stationed in Poland with the NATO integration unit. I mean,
Speaker 1: I have to tell you, Major Watson said, Trump has
Speaker 1: failed us. Not only is he a failure as a president,
Speaker 1: he is flagrantly violating the Constitution, breaking the law, engaging
Speaker 1: in rampant corruption and is killing Americans. Again, no lies detected.
Speaker 1: I salute Major Watson for his bravery and his courage,
Speaker 1: knowing that this was probably going to be the result,
Speaker 1: him being charged.
Speaker 2: He was technically arrested. for that protest on the U.S.
Speaker 1: Capitol steps. But those charges, as we know, were dropped
Speaker 1: the next day. U.S. Capitol Police arrested him and then
Speaker 1: those charges against him were dropped by U.S.
Speaker 2: Capitol Police. But of course, he's now being charged by
Speaker 2: the Air Force. You know, we have to understand that.
Speaker 1: It is okay to not agree with what is happening
Speaker 1: to our country right now and that the First Amendment
Speaker 1: exists for us to be able to express that. If
Speaker 1: these conservative influencers want to use, under the guise of
Speaker 1: the First Amendment, use their social media platforms, whatever they
Speaker 1: have to be able to express their support, that is
Speaker 1: their legal and constitutional prerogative. But being a part of,
Speaker 1: an employee of, the Department of Defense, the Pentagon, that's
Speaker 1: not right. And I'll bet you, as more and more
Speaker 1: digging is done, we're going to find out that more
Speaker 1: and more money, time, energy, and resources is being put
Speaker 1: into having these type of conservative influencers out there. But
Speaker 1: you know what the good news is? This is a
Speaker 1: sign of Trump's desperation. This is a sign of Hegseth's
Speaker 1: abject humiliation and desperation.
Speaker 3: Both of them.
Speaker 1: Because why would you need to have to hire conservative
Speaker 1: influencers if things were going swimmingly well? Why would you
Speaker 1: have to hire conservative influencers, especially of this.
Speaker 2: Ilk, Schlichter and Maness and others?
Speaker 1: Why have to hire them if things were so great?
Speaker 1: If your popularity was so high, if your polling, if
Speaker 1: your approval polling was so fantastic, fell in Trump and
Speaker 1: Pete Keg's breath. If you guys were doing so great
Speaker 1: by your armed forces and your veterans and your active
Speaker 1: service members, why hire social influencers that are conservative, that
Speaker 1: are just going to sit there and pitch the bullshit
Speaker 1: to the masses? Number one, we're not fucking reading it
Speaker 1: and we don't buy it. But number two, it just
Speaker 1: goes to show you reek of desperation, Trump and Hexath.
Speaker 1: Reek like stinky ass pheromone maxing reeking is what you do.
Speaker 1: It's kind of delicious at the end of the day
Speaker 1: if you think about it. Not the stinky ass reeking
Speaker 1: of desperation, but this idea that they are fucking desperate.
Speaker 1: So desperate that they would have to hire these losers
Speaker 1: to have to do it.
Speaker 2: Amazing.
Speaker 1: Be mad, be outraged, you man of credibility. We'll stick
Speaker 1: on this one as well. This is an important story.
Speaker 1: I am off to rattle some Todd Blanche cages.
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