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Speaker 1: What is going on? Clippers fans, fans of your fifth

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seed in the Western Conference playoffs. Welcome to season three,

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episode sixty two of Clips and Dip. I am Chuck

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Mockler with Adam Osend and William Updyke. If you're new

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to the show, welcome. We talk about the Clippers pretty

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much exclusively. Some times we talk about the movie sixty

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five and how that's good, and sometimes we talk about

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other things. But welcome if you're listening to on audio

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and you'd like to see our faces so you can

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see who's saying these mean things about your team if

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you're a Nuggets fan, or these nice things about your

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team if you're a Clippers fan. Can find us at

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YouTube dot com slash at Clippers Podcast. We're gonna talk

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about what the heck happened to Golden State. We're gonna

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give you a large preview of the Clippers versus Nuggets series.

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But before we get into all of that, fella, how

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are we feeling after a roller coaster of a weekend

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but thankfully ended with the Clippers as the five seed. Adam,

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We'll start with you, because you haven't really said anything

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about the Clipper season lately. You've been kind of dormant

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with your content.

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Speaker 2: Underground, like a Ninja turnal. I thought that game yesterday

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put a real exclamation point on what was a very

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successful and one of the more memorable Clipper seasons for

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all the right reasons. I think everybody's going to look

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back on this season fondly, just like the twenty eighteen

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twenty nineteen season. It's one of those years where and

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just to have that memory of how the last game

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was played with stakes, with it being that exceptional of

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a game credit to Golden State two, that was just

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that's an ald timer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I can't think of a more exciting

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final regular season game. Will How are you doing as

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we wake up officially the fifth seed?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing great. And you know, I think that it's

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tough to judge what success is in the NBA, and

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I think a lot of people, media included, like there's

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really only one sort of definition or into that. But

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I think, you know, regardless of what happens, like this

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regular season was an absolute success. We smashed every wind

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projection Vegas. We somehow managed to fight our way into

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the top five, even though seating doesn't matter. But it's

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just I don't know, man, it's been a long time.

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I'm glad that you brought up that eighteen nineteen season

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because this has got to be like one of the

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most top to bottom like likable rosters that I've I've

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gotten to enjoy as a Clippers fan. Like the the

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vibes are incredible, and you know, we had some peaks

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and valleys. Of course in two and three. I thought

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that year where Kawhi ended up going down with twenty

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one or twenty one, twenty two, I don't know, years

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kind of blend together, but like that one, the first

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it was really cool the first year with Nick Patum,

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that one was really locked in and I really liked

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what was going on there. But this was just this

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just felt really special, just felt just felt really different,

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and this was kind of the perfect way. I just

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I can't believe this team went out on the wind

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streak that they did. And even as you know the

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ups and downs that we've had following them, you know

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what this team looked like coming out of the All

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Star Break versus how they ended this regular season is

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just just really incredible. So great stuff, just all around

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great stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, hell yeah, I like this is Joseph Fry Awards

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sent me the stat this morning, he said, for the broadcast.

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So this was a directive from Josephry Award to get

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this stat to the peoples. Funnily enough, it is not

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about Russ, he said after blowing the Sun's game on

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March fourth, which is Will what you were just talking

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about coming out of the All Star break not looking good.

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The Clips go eighteen and three first and offensive rating

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fourth and defensive rating first. In net. This end to

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the season is the best momentum. It's the best vibes, Adam,

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you mentioned eighteen nineteen. We talked about this a little

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bit on Clippers talk, but this is the eighteen nineteen

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feeling with a in no disrespect to the guys who

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are on the eighteen nineteen team, a lot better roster

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than that eighteen nineteen team with two guys playing. I mean,

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we talk about We're gonna talk about the series in

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the next segment, but we talked about, you know, like

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which team has the best player on the court. You know,

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who's the best player between two teams, that's who's gonna win.

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We'll get into that later, but I'm loving the eighteen

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nineteen vibe comp But the ceiling is higher than that team,

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which makes everyone that much more excited for this this postseason.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they can take this much further. That team got

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all the praise in the world, rightfully so for taking

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the best team ever to six games in the first

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round series. Oh yeah, they.

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Speaker 3: Overpeaking them both at home too, like on on Golden

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thing about it. They could not manage to get a

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win at Staples, but they won in like the craziest environment.

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Speaker 2: The biggest comeback in the history of the playoffs, down

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thirty one in Game two. That's the lasting memory above

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all with that squad, Pat bev and Montrez Harald screaming

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as they were walking off the court, Like that team

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was awesome. This team we'll see ultimately how it ends,

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but this regular season was was special.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Before we get into kind of favorite moments and

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regular season awards real quick, I had this question, who

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was your player of the game from the Warriors game?

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Because there's a lot of ways you could look at it.

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There was obviously three guys who did ninety the offense

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and stuff like that, But there was some spirited back

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and forth because a lot of guys did exactly what

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they were supposed to do really well. It's hard to

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not think James Harden for his overtime performance. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: Me, it was James Harden, Like it's just clear, it's

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just clear, you know how essential he is. And you know,

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we've talked about this on here, but it's like forever

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gonna be the sliding doors moment for me, where if

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we have given up that same haul for James Harden

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instead of Paul George, I think that things would have

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looked a lot different.

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Speaker 1: And don't torture yourself, man, we're.

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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, and and and I mean it's just you know,

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he is uh he is the system of the full

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croum that kind of makes everything work about it. That's

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not nothing against Kawhi. That's you know, I'm not I'm

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not knocking Kawhi as being like the best player on

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the team, but he is huge to like how everything

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sort of orbits and you know, looking at Zoo's season,

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it's it's damn near impossible for a season like that

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to happen without James Harden there as well. So you know,

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if you have Zoo is a key contributor in a

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playoff game, like how long ago, it's not even that

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long ago, we were like, when is Zoo gonna even

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be able to close games? Like and not that we

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doubted his ability, but like that, that was where he

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was in the rotation. That was how he was viewed by,

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you know, both the coaching staff and his peers. And

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I don't think that that happens without Harden. So I

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guess we are talking about one game. But yeah, it's

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hard for me to not think about the context of

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all that because Zoo was one of the most important

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players in that game. So I do think it's wrong.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was like a joy spiral as the opposite

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of a doom spiral. That was cool to see. Uh yeah,

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I'm taking hard too out him. You're taking hard.

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Speaker 2: He scored twelve or thirteen points and overtime.

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Speaker 1: Field goal in overtime. Who is the loser of the

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game for the probably Bogey. Probably that's a hater. I'm

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not a Bogie hater, but okay, well.

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Speaker 3: I mean a mirror coffee was he was, Yeah, it's

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probably Bogey or Simmons or coffee.

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Speaker 1: Shout out Chris dun though, who hit all four of

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his shots in a game where Draymond Green also hit threes,

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which thank god we had our own version of that

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counter there. But Kristn was phenomenal in that game and

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gave me more confidence about what he's gonna do in

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the playoffs outside of just shooting. Okay, favorite moment from

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the regular season, Adam, you go first, It could be anything.

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Speaker 2: I mean, outside of them winning that game that just happened.

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Speaker 1: It could be anything that's part of the regular season.

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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously the easy answer is the game that

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just happened. That's that's the best moment. But all right,

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I'll try to dig d for for here. I don't

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know the Cleveland game.

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Speaker 1: To me, that's what I say.

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Speaker 2: The Kawhi fadeaway spitting fade away on Evan Mobley might

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have been my favorite moment of the season right there.

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And Bogey going eight for eight in that game.

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Speaker 1: I lost because I thought he was gonna go oh

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for eight. I said, there's no way he makes all right, Well,

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do you need more time to think of one before

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you two years since Adam The Cavs one the Cabs

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one was a good game, The Cavs one.

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Speaker 3: I mean we went to one that one as fans,

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so it was like extra, It was like extra kind

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of special, but it was just you know, they they

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had turned a corner and were clearly looking better. There

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were still questions about Kawhi. There were still questions about

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how real it was. I kind of was having some

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flashbacks to like the twenty one what was it the

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twenty one and six stretch where they looked really really

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good last year for that for that period of time

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linked into linked into the playoffs obviously. So yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: One for me. I think I'm going completely fair. My

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family was here for that game and they were like, Wow,

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the Clippers are an offensive juggernaut, and at the time

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I was like, I don't know, but you just saw

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the best game of the regular season to that point.

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basically from being off, because there was a lot of

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weird energy, not weird, we all had no idea what

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it was going to look like. It was the long

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run up. It was we'd heard him talking about you

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might want to get out there, all that good stuff

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he played, and how excited everyone was because I think

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deflection or something, a good defensive play, and it felt

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just like, oh shit, okay, like maybe we did do

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this right. Maybe we played everything right like we were

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supposed to. That was probably mine other than the first

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KI back to back, No, that wasn't my favorite moment

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of the season. It was good and cool, but I wasn't.

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Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I'll give an honorable mention the opening weekend

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when in Denver, where normal I think dropped twenty two

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in the fourth quarter and Mike Malone afterwards city kicked

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our ass.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good one. There's a lot of good moments.

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Speaker 3: And I know the low point too, the worst thing,

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the worst point in the season, the.

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Speaker 1: First game, No.

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Speaker 2: Any Phoenix game pick.

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Speaker 3: It was a lot for me. It was still the

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loss of the Trailblazers.

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Speaker 2: Now like thirty six games though, that one really.

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Speaker 1: You hate Portland. I think that's something we learned. They stay.

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They just don't think Judy Green played that game.

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Speaker 3: They had no business losing that game at home.

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Speaker 1: That I mean, you're not wrong about that. We're gonna

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do a whole episode in the off season of low points,

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so we'll say, well, our low points for that regular

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season awards, will who is your most valuable player for

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the Clippers this season? James Arner, fair, Adam, these are

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some of these are pretty honorable mention.

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Speaker 3: No, Norm Powell because he really before especially before Kawhi

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was back in the lineup, he really carried a lot

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for this team like that. You know, we don't have

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this success. We don't get we don't sniff fifty wins

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if if you know, Kawhi is still out to start

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the season and Norm isn't lighting, Yeah, isn't like, isn't

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having a career, isn't having an absolute career year offensively?

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Player of the Game awards. Adam, who is your MVP

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of the season? And maybe honorable mention, let's throw it in.

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Speaker 2: It's James Harden. But it's it's close between him and

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Viza Zubas because of how good Zoo's been on the

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defensive end. I give the edge to James because I

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think it's harder to be competent on offense. That's easier

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for things to just totally fall apart.

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Speaker 3: There's not a lot of guys who have done what

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James Harden has done in his career.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like his system holding things together. Even when people say, well,

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what do you mean they're twenty second in offense. Well,

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if you looked at on off numbers when James was

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actually on the floor, they were basically like a middle

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of the pack offense at worst when he was on

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the floor. So he did his part. He was the

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main reason. While it's close, norm as an argument to

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more dependent on James than James is of them and

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his defense. At times this season there were multiple games

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guys in the fourth corner of the second half of

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that game last night, he locked up Jimmy Butler on

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a possession like he has had some really good defensive moments.

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defense on the season, like they were. And James Harden's

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such a bad defender.

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Speaker 1: How does that? Yeah, Like, how are we able to

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Speaker 2: It's almost like it's easier to cover up for those things,

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just like with Luka, Doncis and Kyrie going into the

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playoffs last year, like the last month and a half,

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Dallas had the best defense in the league. It's like

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everybody's saying, well, their food on defense. Well, you can

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still be a good enough defense even with guys that

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individually aren't great offensively though. There's just more scheme, there's

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more moving parts, and James was the glue to hold

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together an offense to be just good enough to be

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four games above five hundred before Kawhi played a game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the other part with Harden, to that.

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Speaker 3: More complicated offense went out the window towards the end

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of towards the end of last night's.

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Speaker 1: Game, we didn't need it. The other thing with Harden too,

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is Harden came in before the season started because Kawhi

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was going to be out. Harden was default the MVP

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just from the off court stuff. Well on court, but

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like he was the young guys at Rico Hines, the

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ASU workout like Harden came in and set not to

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use a very la to He set an intention for

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this season very early with his leadership and it and

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it carried over and Zubot's honorable mention from my part

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two just an incredible elite from him. But as to you,

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guys both pointed out like a lot of that's because

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of Harden and everyone else other than really Kawhi in

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terms of the starters is dependents as dependent Harden or

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a point guards as anyone's ever been. Most improved player,

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Adam will go to you because this one, I think

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has a couple interesting options. Also put your thoughts at

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Clippers Potter at Clippers podcast on YouTube.

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Speaker 2: I I get irked when I think about a Vista

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Zubots being called most improved player because I think he

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could have been doing this for years.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he I'll think he could do this

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without Harden or a Harden ass point guard if I'm

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being honest.

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Speaker 2: The scoring part, well, what he's able to do in

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the post with both hands, the hook shots like a

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Visa Zubos can get into his bag. I do think

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he can iso and he has shown that off plenty

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this year. This is not just a rim runner that

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is running high, pick and roll and catching lobs. He

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had the most hook shots in the forty years in

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an NBA season. Uh, he is extremely skilled. He didn't

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develop it all last summer. All of a sudden, he's

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been like this. He has said as much. He said

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he has more in his bag that he's had for

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a long time. And he's not even showing off yet.

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While I think, yes, he's dependent on getting the basketball

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because he can't bring it up the floor.

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Speaker 1: They don't let him bring it up the floor.

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Speaker 2: I think to this point he well afterward Apple Mason

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plumb let less to do this stuff. Uh, I think

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a beasta zoobots. If he got the same amount of

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touches last year or in past years, he could be

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right where he is right now. I don't think this

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is some late bloomer that all of a sudden figured

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it out. I think this is a guy who had

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a skill set and the only way to get better

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in certain ways like passing out of double teams is

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if you actually get the reps, if you actually have

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the ball in your hands, to develop that. He's gotten

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that and he has shown growth in that area. Exponentially,

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not because I think like he had an offseason to

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do so it's just you have to get in game

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reps and he finally got it. But if he got

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those in game rephs last year when he was twenty

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six and twenty seven, I think he could have been

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doing the exact same stuff. But I get it. A

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lot of people are going to look at him as

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most improved player, but he's been a top five rim

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protector in the league since like twenty nineteen. Like I

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remember looking at those numbers then defensive field goal percentage

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within six feet of the rim, he was right there

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with Throe Ygobert. I just I think it's more to

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do with opportunity with him, I'm gonna go with I

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don't know. I'll say norm because the first half of

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the season, I think he did show a lot of more,

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a lot more on ball juice than I think people

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realized he had. Not that he was running pick and

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roll or anything like that, but he could create a

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little bit more for himself than I think people realized,

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including myself, Like he could it wasn't just all catch

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and shoot stuff. It wasn't just all quick D H

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O stuff. He could create a little bit more than

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people gave him credit for, and defensively he was better.

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He hasn't been as good since Fast All Star brod

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of the Year. He was better on that and defensively then,

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and all the talking points were going into the season.

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He's got to get back to playing like he was

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in Toronto, and I think for the most part he did.

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Since he came back from the multiple injuries post All

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Star Break, he hasn't been very good defensively. He needs

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to get back to where he was. But I'll go norm,

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I guess.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well you're going norm to Yeah.

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Speaker 3: To me, there's one answer and one answer only. Kawhi

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Leonard came back from injury.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, h tell me what?

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Speaker 3: Tell me how he looked at the beginning of the season.

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Tell me the end of this season.

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Speaker 1: Do you say that that.

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Speaker 3: Was the would you say that's the guy that we're

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looking at right now? Look, I joke, but seriously, I

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mean this was kind of unprecedented that, like, with how

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long the situation had gone on. I mean, I think

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it was fair to have some concerns, and I think

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the way that they handled that. I give a lot

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of kudos to his team and the medical staff, because

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like the way that they brought him back seems to

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have so far have been the best way they've done it.

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And that's even taking into account last year where he

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came out from injury played six to five games. Looked

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incredible then, but just the way that he just if

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you hear the conversation about Kawhi right now, I mean

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it was, you know, six months ago, people were like,

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maybe this guy should retire in not this fear, but

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the larger, the larger national media. And now you know,

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after after a big game like this, he's getting comped

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again to the player that he wasn't twenty nineteen, the

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player that he was with the Spurs. Like it's it's

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unreal the level that he's still at. And even me

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a huge Kawi optimist, you know that, No, at the

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beginning of this season, I was not ready to say

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that this is still a top five, top three guy

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in like in this league. I was not ready to

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say that. And now I can pretty comfortably say that you.

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Speaker 1: Have eaten those words you did not say exactly well,

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I had eaten the previous and I kind of threw

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it out. I like the Kawhi Leonard pick my heart,

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says Zoo, because it's I love seeing it. I love

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seeing how the respect he's getting.

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Speaker 3: Answer, you're gonna play Adam's monologue when doesn't win, When

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Zoo doesn't win any major NBA award, they'll be like, well,

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listen to this guy. He covers the team for five

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hours a day, and he's saying he's not most improved.

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Why would we do?

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Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's disrespectful. I think it's

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disrespectful to think this guy all of a sudden turned

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into a completely different player this year. He has been

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good for a long time. We've seen all the flashes,

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the thirty thirty on his side, I've just dud and like.

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Speaker 3: I see centers knockdown threes and in empty chords. That

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doesn't mean, like, would they not be improved as shooters

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if they have more touches in game, like, it's still

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an improvement.

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Speaker 2: I get. It's the most obvious answer. I just think

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it was always there.

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Speaker 1: I got what I got. Two options that are not

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obvious that I was too afraid to really say Bogie

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because the beginning of his season was not good and

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he had his worship like it was really not I

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like that a lot. I like that one a lot. Also,

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thank you Terrence Man by the way, wonderful, wonderful to

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have him on the team. Shame that, you know he's

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longer with the team, but it did work out. I

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think for both sides. Really, I wasna say Bogie or

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Chris Dunn, because Chris Dunn was on a really bad

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team last year and was contributing for the most part.

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But now he helped be a pretty big part of

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one of the best defenses in the league and is

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taking twice as many threes as he's ever taken per

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game three. It's not that many, but he's he hit

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him at like a thirty four percent clip or something

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like that. Yes, it was skewed by the last ten

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games a little bit, but I appreciate the improvement that

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he's had this year, also with being a safety valve

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for James Harden, because when he was first kind of

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trying to be that other ball handler, we were all

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a little worried as to why Ben Simmons was now

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the second best ballhandler on the team already. I think

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Chris Dun's got better with some of those responsibilities. I've

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appreciated his improvement on this team.

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Speaker 3: I like the bogie pick a lot. I think that's

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a great one.

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Speaker 1: It made it easy because he had such a shit.

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Speaker 3: Christan and is a situation where like that's isn't that

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kind of the same skill set that he's had though, Yeah,

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he's got I mean, and he will get a chance

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to do it in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Because it's like the Amir thing too, right, We've seen

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a mirror be good in flashes, but then, like when

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Amir gets extended time, it starts to taper off a

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little bit, that kind of thing. All right, we got

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two more defensive player of the Year for the Clippers.

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Is it offensive to give it to Avitza zoubats Adam

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your thoughts?

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Speaker 2: No, that's that's accurate. Like, if he's up for defensive

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player of the year in the entire league, he should

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probably win Defensive player of the Year on the Clippers alone.

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Speaker 1: Hey, you would think some people might say, Chris, don't.

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Some people are mad we traded kpj.

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Speaker 2: Oh God, I heard that.

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Speaker 1: I got into an argument with I had to stop.

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I was like, why are you worried about this?

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Speaker 2: I was listening to that earlier today at the gym. Yeah,

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the episode he did last night.

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Speaker 1: It's like, why are you still wish we had KPJ? Though? Man, why.

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Speaker 2: Their nuts? I've seen some of that around too.

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Speaker 1: Damn hell of a season. We won fifty games, but

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oo do I wish KPJ was still go outside? All right?

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So Zoo? Will you picking Zoo too? Yeah, it's hard

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to not pick.

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Speaker 3: Chris Down is great, is a great honorable mention. But

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Zoo is Banker like it's.

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Speaker 1: He's the guy. He's the guy six Man of the

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Year for the Clippers. I guess both a bit of

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a weird one. You can choose. Yeah, Bugy's good.

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Speaker 2: It's KPg. They shouldn't have got rid of it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't really answer this one.

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Speaker 2: Bogie has been shooting fucking fifty percent for three Yeah,

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the last twenty four games been phenomenal.

474
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Speaker 1: It's probably Bogey. I don't know who else it would be.

475
00:25:14,079 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 2: It's bogged in them.

476
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:21,079
Speaker 1: In terms of importance. I think Batom is close to

477
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,640
that because this roster without Batoomb in a playoff, since.

478
00:25:25,559 --> 00:25:26,400
Speaker 2: He's also been here.

479
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 3: We got some looks at that last night.

480
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see Batoom he's.

481
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,759
Speaker 1: Been here longer. Yeah, but I mean Bogie's been huge.

482
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:40,079
Speaker 2: For this The Batoo's been shooting fucking fifty five percent

483
00:25:40,079 --> 00:25:40,680
for three to two.

484
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

485
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 2: Well, the other thing about this year, I think.

486
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,839
Speaker 1: Uh, I think one guy shooting one hundred percent, but

487
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:53,359
it's only because he made one. Uh what the hell

488
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,920
was I just gonna say, I still made it. The

489
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,400
other thing with Bogie two that's incredibly valuable that Tyler

490
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,079
talked about and being surprised by was his ability to

491
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,240
do stuff other than score. He can run the pick

492
00:26:04,279 --> 00:26:06,039
and roll, you can kind of put the ball on

493
00:26:06,039 --> 00:26:08,599
the floor. He can do that stuff, which again kind

494
00:26:08,599 --> 00:26:12,240
of helps that release valve situation for James Harden. So yeah,

495
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:13,880
I think it's it's probably Bogy.

496
00:26:14,079 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 2: But but Toomb's an infinitely better defender.

497
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 1: I mean, you're an infinitely better defender too. But he

498
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:21,440
wasn't brought here.

499
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:25,039
Speaker 2: To this whole like, why can't Bogey guard Jimmy Butler?

500
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,759
Why can't Bogy guard Lebron? Like this whole conversation of

501
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,759
he's getting picked on, He's like, yeah, he can't guard

502
00:26:31,799 --> 00:26:32,559
those guys.

503
00:26:32,799 --> 00:26:34,839
Speaker 1: I thought he was the Lebron stopper. I thought we

504
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,359
traded for the one guy who was gonna stop Lebron

505
00:26:37,559 --> 00:26:37,960
and Gy.

506
00:26:38,039 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 2: Honest, I just don't. I don't understand, like the conversation,

507
00:26:45,079 --> 00:26:47,440
the over analysis with Bogey has been going on for

508
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:48,839
far too long, and I don't like it.

509
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 1: I don't know what.

510
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 2: Well, Yes, I brought this up originally with Chuck when

511
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,000
he was going after his three point shooting and I

512
00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:58,359
was like.

513
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,319
Speaker 1: I just said it was down for the time being,

514
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:01,079
which it was.

515
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,839
Speaker 2: You were going hard at Bogey?

516
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,079
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I was.

517
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 2: I was we pick him for like a back to back.

518
00:27:08,559 --> 00:27:10,400
You're like, are you sure you want to pick Bogy

519
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,079
to be good two games for a row games?

520
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 1: It's a lot of games.

521
00:27:14,279 --> 00:27:18,599
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, four games he's friendly receipt fire happened.

522
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,519
Speaker 1: Now he's good at shooting, he's still bad at defense.

523
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:22,519
That's how it goes.

524
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,599
Speaker 2: He's bad against guys like Jimmy Butler and Lebron, Like,

525
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,240
who is he good against? How many games? Wait, how

526
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,920
many games we've been like, oh man, Bogey got cooked tonight.

527
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,720
They were picking on him. It's been like two games

528
00:27:36,759 --> 00:27:37,680
the Lakers game.

529
00:27:37,799 --> 00:27:42,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's not exactly. Yeah, I'm not saying he's

530
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,240
not like a stalwart. He's not why we have the

531
00:27:44,279 --> 00:27:45,240
fourth best he's.

532
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 2: Not, but the whole like, oh, this is a real

533
00:27:47,759 --> 00:27:50,680
glaring issue. It's like, I got news for you. Yeah,

534
00:27:50,759 --> 00:27:54,119
if teams have their best player like Jimmy Butler, Lebron

535
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:55,759
on Bogey, it's gonna be a problem.

536
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,519
Speaker 1: Well, it's like theris. It's like the christun shooting thing, right,

537
00:27:58,599 --> 00:28:02,079
Like no player is perfect. So people are gonna say, like, oh,

538
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,440
I hope Chris Dunk can hit his shots, and you're like, yeah,

539
00:28:05,519 --> 00:28:07,799
I do too, I hope Bogie can play some.

540
00:28:11,279 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 2: But it's not. Yeah, I think you're asking again how

541
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,200
many games we come out of him? And like, Bogie

542
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:24,279
got coked on defense? Where are all those examples? The

543
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,960
examples are two guys that, of course he's gonna get

544
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:31,880
coached by. So I don't know, I'm not overly worried,

545
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,759
but I don't like the soft switching.

546
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 1: Sure it's not Yeah, it's not helping a defender like Bogie.

547
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, what is the point? Uh yeah?

548
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 1: All right? Anything else about this regular season coach of

549
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,279
the Year for the Clippers, I'm just kidding. Anything else.

550
00:28:55,559 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 3: Van Gunny deserves a pretty honorable well, it's.

551
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,839
Speaker 1: Not undefeated coach Brian Shots, coach of the year.

552
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:05,799
Speaker 3: Uh, I mean honorable mention as well, Like it's obviously

553
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,160
you can't. I mean, obviously we should get some new.

554
00:29:09,079 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: On Monday in the day after clinching the five seed.

555
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,640
You know what, what if what if we took a

556
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,680
page out of the Nuggets book. We're about to play them,

557
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,880
They're undefeated and it's coaching fire.

558
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 3: It's yeah, it's obviously tied, But I mean, doesn't it

559
00:29:25,039 --> 00:29:27,480
seem like the coaching staff was especially strong this year.

560
00:29:27,519 --> 00:29:29,799
Not that it's been like bullshit other years, but it was.

561
00:29:30,079 --> 00:29:33,400
It came together this year. Honestly.

562
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,839
Speaker 2: One of the best reasons though, or one of the

563
00:29:35,839 --> 00:29:38,440
best things about our best parts about the Clippers going

564
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:44,359
on this winning streak is the b Shaw stuff died down. Yeah,

565
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:46,079
that was getting pretty.

566
00:29:46,039 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: That was the craziest That and the KPJ stuff were

567
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:55,240
the two craziest things that A not insignificant amount of

568
00:29:55,319 --> 00:29:58,039
Clippers Twitter people were entertaining.

569
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 2: And like h Gouig makes them worse.

570
00:30:02,839 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 1: Yes, also that, yeah, Kawhi makes them worse. Crowd All right,

571
00:30:07,519 --> 00:30:09,759
that about wraps it up for our regular season thoughts.

572
00:30:09,799 --> 00:30:12,680
Let us know your picks. If you invented some awards,

573
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,519
let us know at Clippers pot or at Clippers Podcast

574
00:30:15,599 --> 00:30:18,480
on YouTube. Coming up, we're doing a Clippers Verse Nuggets

575
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series preview Game one twelve thirty pm this Saturday. If

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you're listening to us on audio, there's gonna be some

577
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audio breaks, So there's some ads coming up in three

578
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to what.

579
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Speaker 3: All right, welcome back into clips and did it's over?

580
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,279
We've come to the end of the regular season. We

581
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,119
just gave you the highlights and a couple of low

582
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,119
lights from that season. But now looking ahead to this

583
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,880
first round matchup against the Nuggets, I think, you know,

584
00:30:46,119 --> 00:30:48,519
this is probably one of the more favorable of the

585
00:30:48,559 --> 00:30:50,960
matchups for what we could have got for what we

586
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,240
were looking at in the standings. That doesn't, by any

587
00:30:53,279 --> 00:30:57,000
means make it an easy series. But Adam, what are you?

588
00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,640
What are you looking forward to? Here? As they in

589
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:00,400
this game one?

590
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:00,759
Speaker 1: What?

591
00:31:00,759 --> 00:31:03,079
Speaker 3: What? What is going to be setting the tone for

592
00:31:03,119 --> 00:31:03,519
the rest of this.

593
00:31:03,559 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 2: Year in Denver is definitely the Larry David Gift where

594
00:31:06,519 --> 00:31:12,000
he's like, you know, yeah it is. They are flawed.

595
00:31:12,359 --> 00:31:14,799
They also have the best player in the league. Their

596
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,599
flawed roster, yeah, also happens to have a guy who

597
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:23,680
has won three regular season MVPs. It really could before,

598
00:31:23,799 --> 00:31:25,759
but I think SGA is gonna win just because team

599
00:31:25,839 --> 00:31:28,200
record is so much better. Hey, he's won of the

600
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:32,960
finals MVP in less than two years. He's arguably he

601
00:31:33,039 --> 00:31:35,079
said he's playing the best basketball.

602
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:35,319
Speaker 1: Of his career.

603
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 2: He said that, Well, games be where he puts up

604
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:44,880
a sixty point triple double. But yeah, that game kind

605
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,519
of exemplifies what he's been dealing with and what can

606
00:31:47,559 --> 00:31:50,119
happen with the Denver Nuggets. They haven't been beating very

607
00:31:50,119 --> 00:31:55,119
good teams as of late. They won that game against

608
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:56,880
Houston yesterday when we.

609
00:31:56,839 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: Thought what the hell was that?

610
00:31:59,559 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 2: I thought he Houston was going to be for real.

611
00:32:01,759 --> 00:32:04,079
I thought they were gonna play hard in that game. Yeah,

612
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,799
they said they were playing their guys and it really

613
00:32:07,839 --> 00:32:13,519
wasn't that close. I I need to know how good

614
00:32:13,599 --> 00:32:17,480
Jamal Murray is with his hamstring, because he was playing

615
00:32:17,559 --> 00:32:18,079
much better.

616
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: That is what I had to haggle. No haggle on here.

617
00:32:22,119 --> 00:32:25,000
The Clippers are healthier than the Nuggets coming into this series.

618
00:32:29,359 --> 00:32:31,400
The Batom question mark is what gets me.

619
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,599
Speaker 2: Need that Batoom update law.

620
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: Because that's that's huge for the Clips.

621
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 2: But I think I would still go no haggle because

622
00:32:40,559 --> 00:32:43,039
Aaron Gordon has been banged up this year. Jamal has

623
00:32:43,039 --> 00:32:46,079
been banged up this year. Those are two of their

624
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,839
top four guys that have really been hurt and Jamal.

625
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,480
There was a lot of talk at the beginning of

626
00:32:51,519 --> 00:32:54,039
the season, like is he lost two steps? Is he

627
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,279
no longer the same guy at all?

628
00:32:57,039 --> 00:32:59,079
Speaker 1: Two steps for a nightmare?

629
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 2: Yeah? Uh, he looked pretty slow, but then he started

630
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,160
to cook over the last few months. But now he's

631
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,440
got a handy issue. I don't know, if he doesn't

632
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,240
have a ton of bursts, a ton of pop Chris Dunn,

633
00:33:12,599 --> 00:33:16,359
that'll make life easier for him guarding him. I just

634
00:33:17,079 --> 00:33:19,200
this is a team that we talked about it a

635
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:24,880
little bit last night, But is their offense good enough

636
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:29,440
to make up for, you know, a pretty poor defensive

637
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,119
team that we saw this year, like because the Clippers

638
00:33:33,119 --> 00:33:35,079
offense with Kawhi is very good.

639
00:33:35,519 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 1: So that's what's crazy too, is they haven't seen Kawhi

640
00:33:37,759 --> 00:33:40,319
all year two and two against the Nuggets in the

641
00:33:40,359 --> 00:33:43,400
regular season, they never saw Kawai. He could have played

642
00:33:43,519 --> 00:33:45,000
one of them, it was a back to back or

643
00:33:45,079 --> 00:33:47,200
something when he was back, but he just he didn't

644
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:47,839
play that one it.

645
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 2: Was the fires in southern California that he had played.

646
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: He went back home right, Good for him, But yeah,

647
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:58,160
they haven't they haven't seen Yeah.

648
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 3: Also, I think like from a health perspect to the

649
00:34:01,759 --> 00:34:04,799
locker room over there in Denver, maybe it's stabilized, but

650
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:06,920
it seems like it was in a lot of disorder

651
00:34:07,599 --> 00:34:11,679
all season long. I mean that certainly led to Malone's firing,

652
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,599
and like teams just on, the team was just unable

653
00:34:15,599 --> 00:34:17,519
to get on the same page really on either end

654
00:34:17,559 --> 00:34:22,039
of the floor, despite you know, despite the coaching staff

655
00:34:22,039 --> 00:34:24,079
trying to get stuff together. So I do think that's

656
00:34:24,119 --> 00:34:26,199
like a factor in health too. I mean Clippers are

657
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,039
coming in with a lot of momentum right now. They're

658
00:34:29,079 --> 00:34:33,159
definitely rolling. Things seem good, and yes, you absolutely have

659
00:34:33,159 --> 00:34:35,599
to worry about the batum thing. I mean that completely

660
00:34:35,639 --> 00:34:40,960
tanks this team's death. They're in a really good spot

661
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,039
right now. I mean Denver is was like kind of

662
00:34:43,079 --> 00:34:45,280
on a little bit of a landslide before getting a

663
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:46,920
couple of wins. I mean I think they've lost what

664
00:34:47,039 --> 00:34:52,119
like five straight, so yeah, kind of different teams. So

665
00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:54,519
I would know haggle that I would say the Clippers

666
00:34:54,559 --> 00:34:55,239
are the are.

667
00:34:55,119 --> 00:34:57,599
Speaker 1: The healthier team with one giant question mark that we'll

668
00:34:57,639 --> 00:34:59,679
hopefully get some more news on in the next couple

669
00:34:59,679 --> 00:35:03,039
of days. Yeah, the Clipper or the Nuggets. Excuse me,

670
00:35:03,199 --> 00:35:06,280
there's some small sample sized theater here for those of

671
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,320
you interested in such things three and oh since the

672
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,280
coaching change, and in those three games top five and

673
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,679
points per game sixth the net rating. So if you

674
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,400
love a small theater, this is the place for you.

675
00:35:18,519 --> 00:35:21,519
Which again I have no idea what to make of that, right, Like.

676
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:29,039
Speaker 3: This is like that third theater that's just like it's

677
00:35:29,119 --> 00:35:30,639
just like a TV with like.

678
00:35:32,679 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: The and I they're lucky that screen is still there

679
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,519
after I saw that movie. Let's just say that. But

680
00:35:39,559 --> 00:35:42,559
how about like, because the small sample size is weird, right, like, Adam,

681
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,719
what do we make of this new not new look

682
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,360
because it's the same guys, but they're they're rotate minutes

683
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:53,000
like it That is a bit of a scary question

684
00:35:53,039 --> 00:35:54,519
mark to looming. I don't know.

685
00:35:55,519 --> 00:35:59,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not going to change schemes. A lot of

686
00:35:59,159 --> 00:35:59,639
it is.

687
00:35:59,599 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: Just go go away forget.

688
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:07,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you look at on off numbers with Jokic

689
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,960
on the court, off the court and their offensive rating,

690
00:36:11,639 --> 00:36:14,239
they literally go with him off the court from a

691
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,559
one toh four offensive rating to like a one twenty two.

692
00:36:18,039 --> 00:36:21,639
Speaker 2: When Jokic is on the floor, they go from worse

693
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,039
offensive rating than the thirtieth team in the league to

694
00:36:25,159 --> 00:36:27,559
be the best offensive team when he's on the court.

695
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,039
So so much of it is just dependent on his

696
00:36:30,119 --> 00:36:33,840
Jokic playing and how many minutes and he saves them.

697
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,519
And you know, I think that's part of the reason

698
00:36:36,519 --> 00:36:39,320
Mike Malone got fired. What are you doing to help

699
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,679
the non Jokic minutes? Is this really just Jokic running

700
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,119
this team? Uh at for better and for worse or

701
00:36:47,159 --> 00:36:48,800
for fair or nod that. I think that's part of

702
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,159
the reasoning behind what happens. David Adam is gonna still

703
00:36:52,159 --> 00:36:53,639
carry on with a lot of the same stuff that

704
00:36:53,679 --> 00:36:57,639
we're doing, but rotations and lineups could be different. Who

705
00:36:57,639 --> 00:36:59,840
he plays and for how many minutes? Now, because all

706
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:03,000
the talk was Russell Westbrook playing too much was a

707
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,480
big point of contention in the locker room. According to

708
00:37:05,519 --> 00:37:08,599
that article from The Athletic. I think it was Sam

709
00:37:08,639 --> 00:37:09,760
A mccaby.

710
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:11,559
Speaker 1: Rush.

711
00:37:15,039 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 2: So does David Adaman find his guys that he likes

712
00:37:23,519 --> 00:37:27,800
that he relies upon Jalen Pickett supposedly will play more now.

713
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,119
I don't know. Peyton Watson does he play more now?

714
00:37:32,679 --> 00:37:35,360
But Russ actually had a really good game yesterday and

715
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:40,440
there went over Houston, So there are more unknowns. I

716
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,400
would say if I had to guess if the firing

717
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:47,280
will help Denver or not, I think it will slightly

718
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,079
just to light a fire underneath guys, and that logic

719
00:37:51,159 --> 00:37:53,320
of the reason to do it that late in the season,

720
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,519
to try to squeeze whatever juice they have left out

721
00:37:57,519 --> 00:38:01,159
of this team in this era by just saying, look,

722
00:38:01,199 --> 00:38:03,280
have a sense of urgency out there because you didn't.

723
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:07,039
You didn't have that, we're playing with maximum effort and

724
00:38:07,119 --> 00:38:09,920
now they might, and that that could do a lot

725
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,480
because the guys, the guys know now it falls on them,

726
00:38:13,639 --> 00:38:15,079
like you got rid of the head coach, you got

727
00:38:15,159 --> 00:38:18,760
rid of the GM. If you fail, it is going

728
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,559
to look like this is on the players completely.

729
00:38:22,639 --> 00:38:25,679
Speaker 1: That's a good call. I like that perspective of it.

730
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 3: And we talk about like gamesmanship or like hiding stuff

731
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,800
or showing stuff off of the playoffs, Is there anything

732
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,519
more dangerous than like a team that you really know

733
00:38:35,639 --> 00:38:38,320
almost nothing about, like they you know, they've seen, they've

734
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,760
seen the lineups and stuff in practice, but like we've

735
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,000
seen so little of this on the court. You know,

736
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,119
is that is that an advantage in a way that

737
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,719
you know, maybe it wouldn't have been if if you

738
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,280
know it's BLOWNA is still.

739
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: Ye and Yokic is gonna play. I mean, he pretty

740
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,320
much averages forty minutes a game in the playoffs, so

741
00:38:56,599 --> 00:38:58,840
he's going to play forty which alleviates a lot of

742
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:03,239
that Jokic on off numbers time. Adam, you were tweeting

743
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,840
this stat out. I've seen it in a bunch. Zubots

744
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:11,719
versus Jokic is going to be fun. I don't know

745
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,039
fun is the right word to watch for the neutral fan.

746
00:39:14,119 --> 00:39:15,880
It will be fun to watch. It will be incredibly

747
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:20,480
stressful for for everybody else involved with this game. Zubots

748
00:39:20,679 --> 00:39:23,960
is the most common primary defender on Jokic over the

749
00:39:24,039 --> 00:39:28,599
last five years, including playoffs, sixty nine plays forty seven

750
00:39:28,639 --> 00:39:31,440
points point six y eight points per possession, so he's

751
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,920
covered him the most in isolation, and he's had the

752
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,719
best points per possession on Jokic now he.

753
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 2: Is into this season. That does not include the four

754
00:39:39,519 --> 00:39:40,400
games this year.

755
00:39:40,639 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 1: He is still Nikola Jokic, He's gonna have at least

756
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:51,360
one triple double in this playoff series. He probably will,

757
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:58,039
But Zoo has also had his best defensive year. He's

758
00:39:58,079 --> 00:40:02,400
had good defensive years before a this is the best

759
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:06,199
defensive basketball of eats. Zubots been playing thankfully heading into

760
00:40:06,199 --> 00:40:08,039
an opponent who he's guarded quite a bit.

761
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,199
Speaker 2: I honestly, I kind of agree with Luca's hand about this.

762
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:17,400
I don't know if Zubots is that different defensively. I

763
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,559
think there's better guys around him with Chris Dunn being

764
00:40:20,599 --> 00:40:23,880
there and DJ. I think his rim protection has been

765
00:40:24,199 --> 00:40:27,039
just about like it has been this year for a while.

766
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:31,599
Speaker 1: All right, Not trying to disrespect too, but it feels

767
00:40:31,599 --> 00:40:33,880
good going into this matchup. Is the other is the

768
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:34,800
main point of this.

769
00:40:36,039 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 2: I I just don't know. It's like Zoo is peaking

770
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,679
on defense now and this is the right time to

771
00:40:40,679 --> 00:40:43,159
have him against Jokic. I think it's gonna be pretty

772
00:40:43,199 --> 00:40:46,920
much the same how it has looked against Jokic with Zoo. Uh.

773
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,800
I don't think those numbers are going to hold because

774
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,280
Jokic is that good. The isolation points for possession stuff,

775
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,599
I think it's really going to be a game plan decision.

776
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,679
Are they just gonna play him straight up with the

777
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,719
beatsa zubots and not double at all and say you

778
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,400
got him one on one and we're good. And because

779
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,719
that's the old not let him be able to do both,

780
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,320
not let him be able to cook you offensively and

781
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:20,519
also get everybody else involved and having those meaty triple doubles.

782
00:41:22,039 --> 00:41:26,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, we can't, sag off. It's the same battle we

783
00:41:26,639 --> 00:41:29,519
had with Luca right every single player this series. Let

784
00:41:29,599 --> 00:41:32,159
him get the triple double, let him score sixty five.

785
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:33,079
What's it going to be.

786
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:41,079
Speaker 2: But at least with Jokic in theory, you may have

787
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,280
the best guy in the league to guard him one

788
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,599
on one. You could say it's Gobert. He's been there

789
00:41:46,639 --> 00:41:49,119
at times, but he also got cooked in that one

790
00:41:49,159 --> 00:41:51,199
game last year in that series. But they did end

791
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:52,400
up winning the Timberwolves.

792
00:41:52,519 --> 00:41:55,280
Speaker 1: That felt like the end of like that was brutal.

793
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 3: That was.

794
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

795
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 2: Traditionally though, the Timberwolves have gotten the best of Denver

796
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,599
because they've been able to slow down Jokic and Gobert

797
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,760
is a part of that. But one on one ISO defender,

798
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:11,639
you might have the best guy for that unlike with Luca,

799
00:42:11,639 --> 00:42:13,519
It's like, I don't know who the best guy is

800
00:42:13,519 --> 00:42:17,519
for that because he's getting so many screens, Like it's hard.

801
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: Kawhi Yah.

802
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, they set so many screens for him, and you

803
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:29,000
match up Hunts so well. If it's in the post

804
00:42:29,039 --> 00:42:32,320
against Jokis in a one on one situation, I'll take

805
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,840
my chances with the Visa Zubots. He's still gonna lose

806
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,719
a ton of those battles. But you know, I think

807
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,760
the best the best way to slow down Jokic is

808
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,159
to make him work on the other end, obviously, and.

809
00:42:42,119 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: The other part of the side of that too, Like

810
00:42:44,199 --> 00:42:45,800
Will you and I were kind of talking about this.

811
00:42:46,039 --> 00:42:49,280
We have a point of attack guy and done. We

812
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,880
have Kawhi at the four, and then you have Zoo

813
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,320
at the five. So you have three guys right there

814
00:42:55,559 --> 00:42:58,880
at every part of the court who are pretty elite

815
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:00,880
at defending. And so if we are just doing one

816
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,000
on one with Zoomer Shokus, we still have those two

817
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,199
guys out there making life hell for whatever actions they're

818
00:43:06,199 --> 00:43:06,639
trying to do.

819
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, absolutely, And I think that versatility is you

820
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,599
know what has helped hide some of the you know,

821
00:43:13,679 --> 00:43:18,920
the defensive inadequacies of having multiple guards out there being

822
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,199
a little bit smaller positionally, with the exception of Beata

823
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,320
Zoo huts. So I you know, maybe that's something that

824
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,599
changes in the playoffs. I just don't know that Denver

825
00:43:27,679 --> 00:43:31,119
has the personnel to really like to really hurt that

826
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:35,119
or alter that or mismatch Hunt to a degree where

827
00:43:35,119 --> 00:43:38,519
it would be, you know, like significantly worse overall than

828
00:43:38,519 --> 00:43:39,760
it was during the regular season.

829
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then the other side of the ball with Zoo,

830
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,400
is Zoo's going to get doubled. I was trying to

831
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,639
find stats on how often the Nuggets send double teams.

832
00:43:48,679 --> 00:43:50,400
No one keeps those stats.

833
00:43:50,119 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 3: Which seems like a great thing for the Clippers exactly.

834
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 1: So, like, I guess this particular defense.

835
00:43:55,559 --> 00:43:57,320
Speaker 3: Like if you have to throw a double at Zoo,

836
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:58,920
I'm sorry, I just think this is going to be

837
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:00,960
a really long series for Denver.

838
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, at his passing has been phenomenal. I'm on board

839
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,880
with I'm not on board with them doublings, but if

840
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,880
they're going to it's like, hey, okay, against this particular defense,

841
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,000
I feel I don't a playoff confident. I guess that's

842
00:44:15,039 --> 00:44:16,199
how I feel about it.

843
00:44:16,199 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 2: It's like if if they dared to double with Aaron Gordon,

844
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,559
who should be on Kawhi Leonard a ton z Who's

845
00:44:22,559 --> 00:44:26,800
gonna find him? Yeah, I would think there's still gonna

846
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,039
be times where Jokis is gonna take up that challenge

847
00:44:29,039 --> 00:44:30,119
of playing him one on one.

848
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:31,199
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they have.

849
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,639
Speaker 2: They have had battles like years, Like three years ago

850
00:44:35,199 --> 00:44:38,119
is when I think if each Zubots had his thirty

851
00:44:38,159 --> 00:44:41,960
four point highest scoring game in a loss. Jokic had forty,

852
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,679
but it was a really tight contest and Zoom was

853
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,760
showing off crazy crap in that game, like of how

854
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,079
good he could be, and it was like, Wow, I

855
00:44:50,079 --> 00:44:51,199
didn't know he had it in him.

856
00:44:51,199 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: This was three years ago. That was a crazy game.

857
00:44:55,159 --> 00:44:59,079
Speaker 2: He's always got en up for Jokic. He also like

858
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,840
he's been featured at times because I think even back

859
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,119
then they were like make him work. We have to

860
00:45:05,159 --> 00:45:08,280
make Jokic work on the defensive end, and Zubos was

861
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,960
doing so then, so I think it has to be

862
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,400
the same strategy. The best way to slow down Jokic

863
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,960
in his offense is to make him work on defense,

864
00:45:17,519 --> 00:45:21,679
and they should try to isolate Zubos against him as

865
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,480
much as they can in the post.

866
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, and run the pick and roll. Make him move

867
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,280
around in defense too, like, make them make decisions. That's

868
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,960
even that's more fatigue stuff you gotta worry about. Because

869
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,360
who's also kind of to the next point, Like it's

870
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:41,599
Brawn guarding Harden. Christian Brown like think so longer guy

871
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,400
for sure like has the the reach to do it.

872
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:49,920
But I feel a lot better about Harden and Zoo

873
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,039
in a pick and roll than I do about Christian

874
00:45:52,039 --> 00:45:54,960
Brown and Nikola Jokic defending that pick and roll. Yeah,

875
00:45:55,519 --> 00:45:58,039
long term over the series, that's.

876
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 2: A good point, Like people speculated the reason Harden has

877
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,639
a pretty good win percentage head to head against Jokic,

878
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:08,400
and it's a team game and stuff, but he does

879
00:46:08,559 --> 00:46:11,679
put him in a lot of actions he does. He

880
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,440
does run that pick and roll to perfection. Is there

881
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,159
something to that where there's a cumulative effect as the

882
00:46:17,199 --> 00:46:21,360
game goes along? Yokic is just you can tire him out.

883
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 3: I mean I think that's true of anybody though, like

884
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:31,199
especially with even someone without the other way too, right, Yeah.

885
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 2: Jokic in particular is not known for his defense. Yes,

886
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,360
him having to work on the defensive end is like

887
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,519
he can he could be on skates at times.

888
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:45,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good call. And then Done versus Murray.

889
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,920
I'm excited for this matchup. A lot hinges on this matchup.

890
00:46:49,039 --> 00:46:52,719
The refs, unfortunately, play kind of a large part in

891
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,639
how this is going to go. For Chris Done. Sometimes

892
00:46:54,679 --> 00:46:57,000
it gets a little handsy and the fowls are like,

893
00:46:57,119 --> 00:47:00,920
can't be doing that this early in the game. But

894
00:47:01,039 --> 00:47:03,360
I like, we don't know how. I mean, Murray looked

895
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:07,280
good the other night. Chris Duhn is, you know, ascended

896
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:11,119
to a level of perimeter defense that, due to minutes restrictions,

897
00:47:11,119 --> 00:47:15,280
will keep him off the NBA teams. But like, this

898
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:19,480
is gonna be a really pivotal part of the game,

899
00:47:19,519 --> 00:47:23,199
and I think I like, call me a homer. I

900
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,519
like Chris Dune's chances at making things difficult.

901
00:47:27,119 --> 00:47:28,760
Speaker 2: I do like the guys they have to throw at

902
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:35,280
Jamal Murray. Between him and DJ, I think they match

903
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,960
up pretty decently against this team as well as you

904
00:47:38,039 --> 00:47:40,280
can for going up against a team with the best

905
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:44,760
player in the NBA, you may have the best guy

906
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:48,840
to guard him and Jamal Murray. I it feels like

907
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:50,719
Chris Doun's the perfect guy for him.

908
00:47:50,639 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 1: And on the other side of the ball. Last ten games,

909
00:47:54,639 --> 00:47:58,599
Chris Duns shooting fIF three, so they're gonna leave him open.

910
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,840
That is going to happen. Can he hit thirty five

911
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,760
percent of his threes or whatever he's saying. He made

912
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,719
good decisions out of the short role. Yesterday he had

913
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:11,960
a couple feeds to Zoo that was nice, like a lot. Also,

914
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,519
aside from the we need James Hard and Kawhi Leonard,

915
00:48:14,599 --> 00:48:17,519
it beats you wants to score and play like they

916
00:48:17,519 --> 00:48:20,559
have been. Dunn's decision making, which has been good for

917
00:48:20,599 --> 00:48:22,320
the most part all season, is going to have to

918
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:26,159
continue to be good.

919
00:48:27,079 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 2: Chris Dunn and his three point shooting is something that

920
00:48:32,039 --> 00:48:34,639
is so pivotal. It makes me feel like if he's

921
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:40,719
hitting threes at a decent enough rate, this Clippers team

922
00:48:41,159 --> 00:48:44,000
goes super nova, like they are so difficult to beat

923
00:48:44,039 --> 00:48:47,880
dead because they've been getting by plenty of times this

924
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:48,880
season with him not.

925
00:48:49,199 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a lot of that.

926
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 2: Funnily enough, were they they could still find a way

927
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:01,599
to win if he's hitting the way he has been.

928
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,440
And it's been like this for like a month and

929
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,679
a half where he's been better from the outside and

930
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:13,480
that was a playoff game yesterday Intensive Purposes. That was Yeah,

931
00:49:13,639 --> 00:49:16,079
those they've been in the pressure cooker for a while

932
00:49:16,079 --> 00:49:19,519
and he has performed really well so and I remember

933
00:49:19,559 --> 00:49:22,320
when he was going through the deep funk with his shooting,

934
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:23,719
he said, well, I'm glad to get it out of

935
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:29,000
my system now and maybe he can kind of be

936
00:49:29,119 --> 00:49:30,960
like it's a new season type.

937
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: Of thing, you know, where Will How are you feeling

938
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:38,039
because there's a narrative springing up too that you know,

939
00:49:38,159 --> 00:49:44,159
Aaron Gordon has the size to stay with Kawhi and

940
00:49:44,199 --> 00:49:47,239
he's you know, he's he's obviously who they're going to

941
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:51,599
put on Kawhi. I cannot see anybody else on Kawhi. Leonard,

942
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:53,920
how do you feel about Kuhi? Rescord?

943
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 3: That's a tough batch up. That's an incredibly physical I mean,

944
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:01,840
if people are are of the opinion that you know,

945
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,159
Kawuhi isn't the true power forward and should be at

946
00:50:04,159 --> 00:50:07,280
the three, I think that's like, that's probably your your

947
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,920
rallying call is is a matchup like that? But I

948
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:13,000
feel confident about it. I think that Kauai, especially the

949
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,159
way that he's moving right now, is going to be

950
00:50:16,199 --> 00:50:18,480
a lot better it's going to be a lot better

951
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,280
prepared to sort of take advantage of that situation when

952
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,119
he can create space in terms of like posting up

953
00:50:24,199 --> 00:50:26,719
and kind of getting to his you know, normal sort

954
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,760
of mid range game. I think I don't know some

955
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:33,679
of that stuff. I think he has the physicality, and

956
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:38,639
I actually think being like slightly smaller it can be

957
00:50:38,679 --> 00:50:40,639
an advantage for him. Just the way that he puts

958
00:50:40,639 --> 00:50:43,440
his body into guys. You know, it gets you off balance,

959
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,159
it kind of gets you, it gets you moving. And

960
00:50:46,199 --> 00:50:48,159
a lot of those shots for Kawhi, you know, I mean,

961
00:50:48,559 --> 00:50:50,920
unfortunately didn't end up pinning the game winner last night,

962
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,880
but they're so automatic that like I wonder, does it

963
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,840
even matter whose hand or how tall the hand is

964
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:58,440
in your face at a sort of like at a

965
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,480
certain point, like that stuff is just it's like so

966
00:51:01,119 --> 00:51:03,360
drilled into you. It's such a part of your identity.

967
00:51:03,519 --> 00:51:06,039
I mean, the bigger thing isn't Yeah, it isn't the

968
00:51:06,039 --> 00:51:08,880
shots me. It's like creating the space. And in my head,

969
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,159
I think that I think that he's going to be

970
00:51:11,159 --> 00:51:13,679
able to create that space in a one on one scenario,

971
00:51:14,599 --> 00:51:16,519
not that it'll be easy, and like he you know,

972
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:18,360
like I said, I do expect it to be a

973
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:22,239
really physical matchup for him, uh on the on the

974
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,199
offensive side of the floor. But I I like it.

975
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,000
I mean, I you know, I like it.

976
00:51:27,599 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 1: He's I like what you said about you're you're more

977
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,679
worried about creating the space than if the SHOT's going

978
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:33,199
to go in. I think that's a great point. And

979
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,159
that you also said like one on one because they'll

980
00:51:35,199 --> 00:51:37,480
send doubles at Kawhi. We've seen that a little more.

981
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:42,360
Sees it as the winning streak. Kept going, Yeah, Adam,

982
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:47,559
how do you feel about the Gordon Leonard uh?

983
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:50,079
Speaker 2: I long said, I think he's the best defender in

984
00:51:50,079 --> 00:51:50,440
the league.

985
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,760
Speaker 1: And why I actually Wiggins was a good Kawhi guy.

986
00:51:53,800 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 2: Grant, Yeah, Wigan is good Jeremy Grant. But over the

987
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,119
last few year I pull a receipt on myself from

988
00:52:02,119 --> 00:52:04,599
twenty twenty three earlier saying like this would be such

989
00:52:04,639 --> 00:52:08,719
a scary matchup because he's so good on Kawhi, Aaron Gordon,

990
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:13,800
and he is. But I also always say, like what

991
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:18,679
Will was saying, Kawhi looks through defenders like it's just

992
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:23,400
about with Kawhi, it's getting to his spot. Can you

993
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,760
stop him from getting to his spot, because once he

994
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,719
gets there, he's automatic. Once he gets to his sweet

995
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,760
spots on the floor, you get a hand in his face.

996
00:52:32,199 --> 00:52:35,719
It doesn't really affect him much. But Aaron Gordon is

997
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:37,920
one of those guys that's quick enough while being that

998
00:52:38,159 --> 00:52:41,639
big to stop Kawhi from bullying him, that he can

999
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,039
stop him at times from getting to his spot. I

1000
00:52:44,079 --> 00:52:45,920
know a lot of people have said this season, Aaron

1001
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,719
Gordon's defense hasn't been that good. I've seen that a

1002
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,760
lot of that. I didn't feel like that in the

1003
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:55,599
games against Denver when he played, but he also I

1004
00:52:55,639 --> 00:52:58,800
remember he came back from a calf injury and his

1005
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,800
first game back it into a dome. I remember against

1006
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,280
the Clippers. We were like Clippers luck Eric Gordon gets

1007
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,960
healthy against us, and he didn't look great in that game,

1008
00:53:07,519 --> 00:53:10,239
but he was coming off an injury. I still feel

1009
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,000
like he's going to be very good on that end.

1010
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,920
But Kawhi is good enough to handle anybody when he's

1011
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:21,199
in his own it doesn't really affect him. But in

1012
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:24,199
a series on the margins, like if the difference is

1013
00:53:24,639 --> 00:53:27,000
you know, Kawhi is no longer shooting fifty one percent

1014
00:53:27,079 --> 00:53:29,920
from the field and now he's at forty seven percent,

1015
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,199
which is still really good, but that's a four percent

1016
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:40,559
difference that could swing a series like that. Could We'll see.

1017
00:53:40,639 --> 00:53:44,960
I think I'm interested to see how much the Clippers

1018
00:53:45,039 --> 00:53:48,840
are matchup hunting out there, and because there are a

1019
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:53,039
lot of options, Like I don't think Christian Brown is

1020
00:53:53,039 --> 00:53:55,079
a good option for a guy like Kawhi because he

1021
00:53:55,119 --> 00:53:57,519
can't bully him. Obviously, Jamal Murray's going to be out

1022
00:53:57,519 --> 00:54:00,519
there too. He doesn't want to guard Kawhi, So could

1023
00:54:00,559 --> 00:54:02,239
he can he get.

1024
00:54:02,079 --> 00:54:07,559
Speaker 3: These switches, you know, or Junior? So that's I mean,

1025
00:54:07,599 --> 00:54:09,320
that's another thing that as to comment. I mean, we've

1026
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,480
just listed three guys that are like, okay, yeah, none

1027
00:54:11,519 --> 00:54:17,000
of these guys want anything to do with Kauhi, like.

1028
00:54:15,519 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 2: Like Defens, and those are guys that are playing thirty

1029
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:19,400
plus minutes happen.

1030
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 1: And Gordon will also try and wear him out on

1031
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,480
the offensive end, you know what I mean, Like Gordon

1032
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:26,960
will try and put his body into him when he

1033
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,519
gets the ball, stuff like that. When Gordon is on

1034
00:54:29,559 --> 00:54:31,679
the offensive end, that's obviously not going to happen very

1035
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:33,719
much because that's not who they necessarily want to have

1036
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,320
the ball in their hands on offense, but that'll be

1037
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,880
something to check out too. And Jokic leads the league

1038
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:40,800
in screen assists, so there's gonna be a lot of

1039
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:42,679
bumping around for the Clippers.

1040
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 2: He finds Gordon as a rim runner in the dunkers

1041
00:54:46,519 --> 00:54:48,760
spot with eyes on the back of his head that

1042
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:55,000
connections god tier uh. Gordon has shot forty four from

1043
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,320
three though this season. Is that going to translate? He's

1044
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,000
had a career year from three. He's only played about

1045
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,960
fifty games because he's been hurt, but he has been

1046
00:55:04,039 --> 00:55:08,360
lights out from three. That's what I worry about most

1047
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:11,239
because if Kawhi is guarding him on the other end,

1048
00:55:11,599 --> 00:55:14,599
which you would think, they'd put Kawhi on him a lot,

1049
00:55:14,679 --> 00:55:16,719
unless late in games. They could have a bunch of

1050
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:22,039
Maul Murray at times. But if Kawhi could actually sag

1051
00:55:22,119 --> 00:55:25,360
off of him and give him some space, that'd be

1052
00:55:25,639 --> 00:55:28,559
huge for the Clippers. But I don't know if you

1053
00:55:28,599 --> 00:55:30,639
can do that right now with Aaron Gordon. He's been

1054
00:55:30,639 --> 00:55:31,920
too go automatic from three?

1055
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:33,679
Speaker 1: Is that what they have we done that in the

1056
00:55:33,679 --> 00:55:34,840
past with ag.

1057
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,639
Speaker 2: I think they have played off of they have given

1058
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:44,039
him some of those shots yeah, everyone, he's turned in.

1059
00:55:44,199 --> 00:55:47,000
I mean, he's a different guy than he was in Orlando, obviously,

1060
00:55:47,039 --> 00:55:50,039
but this is his year from three. Out of all

1061
00:55:50,079 --> 00:55:54,079
the decently shooting years, he's had good years, but this

1062
00:55:54,119 --> 00:55:57,440
is forty four percent from three, Like shit.

1063
00:55:58,159 --> 00:56:01,599
Speaker 1: I mean, after are we speaking of three points? Are

1064
00:56:01,599 --> 00:56:03,840
we worried the Clippers are gonna cool off? They're shooting

1065
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:07,480
forty two as a team over the last ten games

1066
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:11,079
while taking the second fewest in the league during that

1067
00:56:11,159 --> 00:56:13,599
stretch per game over the last ten games.

1068
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 2: I mean, you can go even further, Like I've been

1069
00:56:16,519 --> 00:56:19,119
watching this for a while, twenty one games. Since they're

1070
00:56:19,159 --> 00:56:23,519
eight and three, they're at forty three percent from three games.

1071
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,639
That's best in the league. What I worry about most

1072
00:56:26,679 --> 00:56:29,159
is during that time, teams were only shooting thirty four

1073
00:56:29,199 --> 00:56:32,320
percent against them from three. Both those things happening at

1074
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:33,920
the same time is worrisome to me.

1075
00:56:37,679 --> 00:56:39,760
Speaker 1: And Chris Dunn has helped that too a little bit

1076
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,239
with his just incredible.

1077
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 2: Chris Dunn has helped Nico has helped, Bogie, has helped

1078
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:48,599
Kawhi has been shooting like forty four percent over that

1079
00:56:48,639 --> 00:56:49,239
time from three.

1080
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 1: Then we keep talking about Nico and I keep just

1081
00:56:54,199 --> 00:56:59,480
needing craving an update because bench versus bench fully healthy

1082
00:56:59,519 --> 00:57:01,880
bench first bench will correct me if I'm wrong. The

1083
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:03,960
Clippers have a much better bench, right like just.

1084
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:06,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd say so.

1085
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:12,599
Speaker 1: Feel exaccurate, But no, Nick patom I would say the

1086
00:57:12,639 --> 00:57:18,440
Clippers still have a better bench, but it's not as

1087
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:20,559
pretty about you still got you got to rely even

1088
00:57:20,599 --> 00:57:23,400
more on Kawhi, Harden and Zuta to do whatever they're

1089
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,400
gonna do without Nick Patuma there.

1090
00:57:26,639 --> 00:57:30,039
Speaker 2: I think the main problem is it's not so much

1091
00:57:30,159 --> 00:57:32,800
like the raw numbers. Obviously with Nico, it's not like

1092
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,159
he's getting fifteen points off the bench or anything like that,

1093
00:57:36,079 --> 00:57:38,519
but he makes so many different lineups work for you.

1094
00:57:38,679 --> 00:57:41,679
He's the lynchpin to making all these bench lineup work.

1095
00:57:42,639 --> 00:57:45,119
And that's what worries me, because they had been running

1096
00:57:45,119 --> 00:57:51,559
that Kawhi, Nico, Ben Simmons DJ Bogie lineup and having

1097
00:57:51,639 --> 00:57:55,159
success with that, and that was starting second quarters and

1098
00:57:55,199 --> 00:57:57,320
fourth quarters over the last couple of weeks and it

1099
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:00,840
had been good for them, and then last night they

1100
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,679
just of course, James Harden never left the game in

1101
00:58:03,719 --> 00:58:05,760
the second half. He played the rest of the game

1102
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:09,159
into overtimes, so he was kind of the replacement with

1103
00:58:09,239 --> 00:58:12,840
the rest of those guys for Nico Batoom. But that's

1104
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:16,119
not going to be sustainable, you know, the entire playoffs

1105
00:58:16,199 --> 00:58:18,719
or even throughout an entire series. Like Harden can't play

1106
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:23,400
every second half. I don't think every game of the playoffs.

1107
00:58:23,679 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: We don't think. We don't know, but we don't think

1108
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:27,679
that there.

1109
00:58:27,519 --> 00:58:29,679
Speaker 2: Will be some wore he plays the entire second half,

1110
00:58:29,679 --> 00:58:31,280
but I don't think he can play the entire second

1111
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:32,239
half every game.

1112
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're looking at a bench unit of Westbrook Pickett,

1113
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:40,800
Peyton Watson, DeAndre First, Derek Jones, Junior Bogie Batoum, and

1114
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:45,840
Ben Simmons who has not played incredibly inspiring basketball to

1115
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:49,880
close the season, which I'm hoping that changes too because

1116
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:50,639
there's no Nico.

1117
00:58:51,559 --> 00:58:54,199
Speaker 3: Wait are you are you just writing Offseagi?

1118
00:58:55,519 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 1: Oh, I guess I must be.

1119
00:58:56,559 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think enough he'll he'll play a

1120
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:04,920
lot more backup center than DeAndre I mean Andre's.

1121
00:59:06,079 --> 00:59:08,639
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, that must.

1122
00:59:08,679 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 2: Julian Strath have been playing because coming into the season,

1123
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:13,800
a lot of the top was he's a big X

1124
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,840
factor for them, But I don't think. I don't know

1125
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:18,880
if that's one of the criticisms of Mike Malone not

1126
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:19,639
playing him more.

1127
00:59:20,039 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 1: He here's his last handful of games ten minutes, zero minutes, eleven,

1128
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:26,480
eleven to one, and then he must have been hurt

1129
00:59:26,519 --> 00:59:29,239
because he had five or six games and no minutes

1130
00:59:29,239 --> 00:59:29,519
at all.

1131
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:32,719
Speaker 2: He's got it on the outs.

1132
00:59:33,199 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, And Peyton Watson has been has been decent for

1133
00:59:36,039 --> 00:59:39,320
the Nuggets too. You've been Yeah, he's solid, He's I mean,

1134
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:41,320
he's a He's averaged in like nine or ten against

1135
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:44,079
the Clippers and the you know again small sample size

1136
00:59:44,119 --> 00:59:44,760
that they've played.

1137
00:59:45,599 --> 00:59:47,719
Speaker 2: Has not been hurt to one of the other guys

1138
00:59:47,719 --> 00:59:50,000
that guards Kawhi and James Harden at times?

1139
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:53,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, has not? She been hurt too, because he's effectively

1140
00:59:53,519 --> 00:59:55,639
stopped playing since April second.

1141
00:59:56,679 --> 00:59:57,239
Speaker 2: Interesting.

1142
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 1: See, this is why it's so weird because they have

1143
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:06,280
a new coach, like you know what I mean, there's

1144
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:09,079
some interesting question marks and this he had an ankle spring.

1145
01:00:09,079 --> 01:00:09,519
I don't know.

1146
01:00:10,159 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 2: Unpredictability is not something you love going into a playoffs series.

1147
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 1: Exactly like we played the MAVs fifty years in a row.

1148
01:00:18,079 --> 01:00:20,519
We said, hey, welcome to the playoff preview. Listen to

1149
01:00:20,559 --> 01:00:22,760
our one from two years ago or one from last year.

1150
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:24,800
Here's what we gotta do. The Nuggets are a bit

1151
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:27,199
of a wild card, which does give me some pause

1152
01:00:28,119 --> 01:00:30,679
for this series because they're a wild card with a

1153
01:00:30,719 --> 01:00:33,920
guy who can put up fifty five fifteen to twelve.

1154
01:00:34,039 --> 01:00:38,719
Speaker 2: Right, there is a very well known the most what

1155
01:00:39,199 --> 01:00:41,159
they have is very well known.

1156
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they have another wildcard in Russell Westbrook, who

1157
01:00:44,639 --> 01:00:47,679
will be playing for either team sometimes during the same game.

1158
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:51,000
And the home and the home court advantage is huge

1159
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:54,239
for Denver. You gotta ball, man.

1160
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:57,039
Speaker 2: If the Rockets one that gave yesterday, the Clippers would

1161
01:00:57,079 --> 01:00:58,119
have had home court.

1162
01:00:58,519 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 1: I know it's crazy and how much I don't know.

1163
01:01:04,719 --> 01:01:09,599
People were bummed out with Norm yesterday and his recent performances, But.

1164
01:01:10,199 --> 01:01:12,159
Speaker 2: I like the fourth quarter. Though he had a couple

1165
01:01:12,119 --> 01:01:13,239
of shots.

1166
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 1: He had clutch shots late in the second and third quarter.

1167
01:01:16,039 --> 01:01:19,639
Speaker 2: Two. I was looking this up earlier the last two

1168
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:24,519
years and fourth quarters and this is high volume as

1169
01:01:24,599 --> 01:01:27,360
much as you can for a fourth quarter. He is

1170
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:30,800
shooting almost fifty percent from three the last two seasons

1171
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:31,559
and fourth quarters.

1172
01:01:32,199 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 1: Can't say is not clutch.

1173
01:01:34,679 --> 01:01:35,639
Speaker 2: That's crazy.

1174
01:01:36,079 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 1: Can't say it's not clutch. Oh, this game one is

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going to be terrifying. It happens on Saturday at twelve

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thirty two. Thirds of this podcast will be in the

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Bay Area celebrating a friend's birthday. So there's probably gonna

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be uh, there's gonna be maybe a pregame hang, and

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there's gonna be for sure a hang on Sunday to

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talk Game two. Now, the most important segment of the

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season so far. Who is our player of the game

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for Game one? And for those of you new to

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this podcasts, there might be some new listeners. Hello, we

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hope we're representing Clippers fandom. Well, we are not allowed

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to pick Kawhi, Leonard avitza Zebat, storm Power, James Harden

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because those are too obvious and it's too easy. So

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that's what we do. Adam, you go first.

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Speaker 2: I'm calling it. I'm going Nikova soon.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the energy we need.

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, he's playing.

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Speaker 1: He has to play. He really, Nuggets fans, if you're listening,

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he is so important to how this Clippers team plays basketball.

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He really is.

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Speaker 2: Like, if they didn't have him for this series, I

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don't think it would be quite a challenge. Yeah, I agree,

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they Nico, he's their second best option against Joki.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, we haven't even talked about Drew you benks yet.

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Speaker 2: Who.

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Speaker 1: I was not the only person to think that he

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was Australian. Just there's I was proof of that. I

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thought he was from Australia. Couldn't tell you why never

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even played there? Uh, Will, who.

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Speaker 3: Is your player of the game, Bogey Redemption arc.

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Speaker 1: Ar get right into the basket? Yeah.

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Speaker 3: No, I think our success in this series doesn't hinge

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on on Bogey obviously, but him having a good him,

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him having an efficient game. Uh, first game out I

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think would be would be really nice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: His stealing one from Denver game one would be, Uh,

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would be pretty feel pretty darn good.

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Speaker 1: Just gotta split, that's all. Like, just split these first

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two games. We're feeling pretty good after that. I'm gonna go.

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We haven't even talked about this guy that much. Derek

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Jones Jr.

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Speaker 3: We haven't talked about him enough.

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Speaker 1: The athleticism is there. He's another defender who is very

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comfortable guarding number one options. He can guard multiple positions.

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I'm feeling Derek Jones Junior. Adam.

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Speaker 2: That reminded me that first game against Denver that we

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spoke of earlier with that norm crazy fourth quarter. He

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was on Jokic some. I believe in the fourth quarter

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that Jokic play at the end where he double plushed

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that three pointer. I think DJ put him in that spot.

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He will see minutes on Jokics here and there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he will be It's also like there's gonna

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be some starting lineup mix ups I think for the

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Clippers in this series, based historically on what we've seen

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with Tylu and how playoff series go, I would be

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surprised if we see the same starting lineup for the

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whole thing.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, I've been calling my shot all year. I think

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Nico's gonna end up in the starting lineup against certain

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teams in a playoff series. One of those teams, I said,

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was Denver. What that could mean? Things are going bad? Oh?

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Speaker 1: That means we're down? Oh too in some of these scenarios, absolutely.

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Speaker 2: But I'd much other have that than in a mustless situation.

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Is PJ in the starting lineup?

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Speaker 1: Hey, you put up more shot than Paul George did

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in that second half. Okay, out of that, get the

1241
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bad memories out. Let us know what you think is

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01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:44,320
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01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:46,440
of the Nuggets who are just joining us for this

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01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:50,519
playoff series leave some friendly reviews for this podcast?

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01:05:50,719 --> 01:05:53,119
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01:05:53,159 --> 01:05:56,239
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01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:58,639
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01:05:58,639 --> 01:06:00,440
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1253
01:06:07,599 --> 01:06:11,639
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1254
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tuned for that. But however you listen or watch, you know,

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Speaker 1: You absolutely do. Adam the first playoff edition of this

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Please give these Clippers fans one positive thing as they

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get into this week ahead.

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Speaker 3: Of game one.

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Speaker 2: Unlike the Denver Nuggets, the Clippers have already won a

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playoff game. Basically, Okay, Yeah, that was a I think

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we'll over use the word epic. That was epic. There's

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like four or five Hall of Famers in that game,

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which you call and State and the Clippers. That was incredible.

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And the week off for Nico Batoom to get healthy

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and get right is much needed. Did well all, I

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know some people were crazy enough to want to be

1268
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in the play and so they could get Houston in

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the first round. And I'm not even sure if that

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would be a better matchup than Denver, But did we

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all collectively, you know, have a cyb of relief just

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knowing we'd have some time off. You've said, some time

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to depress, get to relax, calm before the storm.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, even if you like the Rockets better as a matchup,

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you have to factor in the rest. You have to

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01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:28,119
factor in the rest thing. You have to win a

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playing game. You have a day off, and then the

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series starts against a much younger, very physical team. Like

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it's not a great recipe.

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Speaker 1: Kawhi was going to go into the game against the

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Rockets with like one hundred minutes played over three days

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or sing played forty seven minutes yesterday. I saw someone

1283
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critiquing that Kawhi looked a little slow at the end

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01:07:49,079 --> 01:07:51,440
of the game, and I was like, look at the

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column to the right of their names in the box score,

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and forty seven minutes will do that. That was a wonderful,

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01:07:59,719 --> 01:08:02,199
potitive thing. Adam, Thank you for that. The Clippers are we.

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Speaker 3: Gotta get on that zoo conditioning.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they need Tresley Company a conditioning coach. All right.

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That about wraps it up. We might be with you

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live later on in the week. Here's to a great

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game one. Here's to the Clippers in six. Yeah. I

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hope everyone has a great weekend. As always, let's go Clips.