WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:02.839 This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to kf 2 00:00:02.879 --> 00:00:05.200 I A M six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show 3 00:00:05.240 --> 00:00:08.560 on demand on the iHeartRadio app. We did not mention 4 00:00:09.400 --> 00:00:12.480 that today is day one of the conclave. 5 00:00:13.240 --> 00:00:14.560 I thought it was Wednesday. 6 00:00:14.640 --> 00:00:17.120 Oh, you're right, it is. What the hell am I 7 00:00:17.199 --> 00:00:17.719 talking about? 8 00:00:17.839 --> 00:00:18.239 That's all right? 9 00:00:18.239 --> 00:00:18.879 You know, I'm gonna go on. 10 00:00:19.039 --> 00:00:19.719 Stop over there. 11 00:00:21.120 --> 00:00:21.640 It's soup. 12 00:00:22.559 --> 00:00:23.120 Do you want some? 13 00:00:23.359 --> 00:00:23.399 No? 14 00:00:23.760 --> 00:00:27.920 Okay, no alcohol in that soup? Right, okay? 15 00:00:28.000 --> 00:00:33.079 So today is the first day of conclave. Wednesday I saw, 16 00:00:33.159 --> 00:00:37.359 like handle you do a little. He's had a very 17 00:00:37.359 --> 00:00:42.200 good career. I'll take it. So Wednesday is the beginning 18 00:00:42.240 --> 00:00:45.840 of Conklin, shut up, we'll talk about it Wednesday. 19 00:00:45.880 --> 00:00:46.000 Then. 20 00:00:46.079 --> 00:00:48.200 Look now we're all ready to go. We're ready on 21 00:00:48.200 --> 00:00:56.840 a Monday for Wednesday. What the hell, let's do the swamp. 22 00:00:58.159 --> 00:01:01.000 I'm not kissing that here. 23 00:01:01.039 --> 00:01:04.480 We got the real problem is that our leaders are done. 24 00:01:04.519 --> 00:01:05.799 The other side never quits. 25 00:01:05.879 --> 00:01:09.640 So what I'm not going anywhere? 26 00:01:09.760 --> 00:01:12.120 So now you train the squaw. 27 00:01:12.200 --> 00:01:14.480 I can imagine what can be and be unburdened by 28 00:01:14.480 --> 00:01:15.040 what has been. 29 00:01:15.200 --> 00:01:18.719 You know, Americans have always been going president, but they're 30 00:01:18.760 --> 00:01:19.280 not stupid. 31 00:01:19.359 --> 00:01:22.040 A political flunder is when a politician actually tells the 32 00:01:22.040 --> 00:01:24.959 truth whether people voted for you were not swamp watch, 33 00:01:25.200 --> 00:01:27.120 They're all, well, let's let's go. 34 00:01:27.200 --> 00:01:28.680 What just go on? 35 00:01:28.840 --> 00:01:31.719 If I do decide to have a drink at eleven 36 00:01:31.719 --> 00:01:35.760 oh seven am and the conclave is what I decided 37 00:01:35.760 --> 00:01:39.280 to talk about, I think there's bigger, bigger fish to fry. 38 00:01:39.400 --> 00:01:41.519 Well, I was gonna let it happen. Oh you were, yeah, 39 00:01:41.560 --> 00:01:43.079 Well that's why I asked what was in the cup? 40 00:01:44.000 --> 00:01:45.719 Is if something was going down. I didn't want to 41 00:01:45.719 --> 00:01:47.120 be the I didn't want to be the one to 42 00:01:47.239 --> 00:01:49.079 like derail it right. 43 00:01:48.959 --> 00:01:50.959 Away for two reasons. 44 00:01:51.040 --> 00:01:53.760 One for the sheer entertainment of what was about to happen, 45 00:01:54.319 --> 00:01:56.519 and second, I didn't want it to be said so 46 00:01:56.719 --> 00:01:57.400 jarring to you. 47 00:01:57.519 --> 00:01:58.680 I wanted you to feel. 48 00:01:58.400 --> 00:02:00.920 Like this was a comfortable place, say space, Yeah, I 49 00:02:00.920 --> 00:02:01.560 appreciate that. 50 00:02:01.599 --> 00:02:04.400 Good Lord. Let's do this in reverse order. 51 00:02:04.400 --> 00:02:07.239 The President just wrapped up an Oval Office event where 52 00:02:07.280 --> 00:02:10.120 he talked about the NFL Draft is coming to Washington, 53 00:02:10.199 --> 00:02:12.759 d C. He made the announcement with Roger Goodell, the 54 00:02:12.759 --> 00:02:15.680 head of the NFL, and the commissioner, I should say 55 00:02:15.919 --> 00:02:19.560 same thing, and then the owner of the Washington Commanders, 56 00:02:19.879 --> 00:02:22.360 and they gave him the whole you know, number forty 57 00:02:22.360 --> 00:02:25.360 seven jersey and everything for the Washington Commanders. Muriel Bowser, 58 00:02:25.479 --> 00:02:28.159 the mayor of d C, was up there. I don't 59 00:02:28.159 --> 00:02:29.400 think she wanted to be, but. 60 00:02:29.360 --> 00:02:31.680 She was there, and I said it to you. I'll 61 00:02:31.719 --> 00:02:36.000 say it to you off here. And I don't like 62 00:02:36.080 --> 00:02:40.360 the optics of an adult in power looking like a 63 00:02:40.400 --> 00:02:43.759 petulant teenager, because it would be not cool for them 64 00:02:43.800 --> 00:02:46.520 to be delighted to be in the presence of the 65 00:02:46.520 --> 00:02:49.159 President of the United States, no matter who that president is. 66 00:02:49.319 --> 00:02:50.560 In the office. Yeah. 67 00:02:51.159 --> 00:02:54.280 Yeah, And I think that the both parties need to 68 00:02:54.280 --> 00:02:56.439 get over that. You need to get over the we 69 00:02:56.560 --> 00:02:58.759 on both sides. We didn't even talk about this last week, 70 00:02:58.840 --> 00:03:02.039 but the hug that Gretchen Whitmer gave to President Trump 71 00:03:02.120 --> 00:03:03.719 when he got off of Air Force when he was 72 00:03:03.759 --> 00:03:05.439 doing his one hundred days. 73 00:03:05.680 --> 00:03:07.159 He saw the headline I did not click. 74 00:03:07.879 --> 00:03:15.520 There's articles abound about political hugs that have gone awry, 75 00:03:16.039 --> 00:03:20.639 where one person from one party extends some sort of 76 00:03:20.719 --> 00:03:23.520 warm welcome to someone from the other party and it 77 00:03:23.759 --> 00:03:27.520 just torpedoes their career when it shouldn't and it goes 78 00:03:27.800 --> 00:03:29.960 I mean it probably goes back decades. But the one 79 00:03:29.960 --> 00:03:32.560 of the earlier ones that I saw was Governor Rick 80 00:03:32.560 --> 00:03:35.400 Scott when he was the governor of Florida, welcoming Barack 81 00:03:35.479 --> 00:03:38.560 Obama with just a hug and he just introduced he 82 00:03:38.639 --> 00:03:40.919 was introducing him at some speech he was giving some event, 83 00:03:41.159 --> 00:03:42.599 ladies and gentlemen, the presidents. 84 00:03:42.719 --> 00:03:45.680 I mean, just not a d about it. It just 85 00:03:46.199 --> 00:03:47.400 announced the president. 86 00:03:47.879 --> 00:03:50.360 And then everybody thought Rick Scott had turned tables and 87 00:03:50.479 --> 00:03:51.479 was like, oh, you're not. 88 00:03:51.599 --> 00:03:53.680 You're a Republican name only, and you can't. 89 00:03:54.240 --> 00:03:56.800 That's the kind of stuff that's that's the kind of 90 00:03:56.840 --> 00:04:00.439 stuff that is going to destroy it this country is 91 00:04:00.680 --> 00:04:04.039 the little tiny divisions like that, These what should be 92 00:04:05.000 --> 00:04:10.039 cordial interactions between people, others want to see them absolutely 93 00:04:10.120 --> 00:04:11.360 laced with vitriol and. 94 00:04:11.439 --> 00:04:14.680 Fangs and fists. That's not how we get things done. 95 00:04:14.800 --> 00:04:17.480 Just because you disagree with somebody doesn't mean they're an 96 00:04:17.519 --> 00:04:22.199 evil person. Yeah, you know, and you get you don't 97 00:04:22.240 --> 00:04:26.120 get far with that kind of thinking of not treating 98 00:04:26.160 --> 00:04:29.839 people like they're humans and just seeing where you find where. 99 00:04:29.600 --> 00:04:31.800 You differ on both sides. 100 00:04:31.959 --> 00:04:34.560 That's the thing is yeah, all right, So at that 101 00:04:34.720 --> 00:04:37.680 event at the Oval office. Just a few minutes ago, 102 00:04:37.839 --> 00:04:42.000 President Trump was asked about about this Alcatraz thing. He 103 00:04:42.000 --> 00:04:44.560 tweeted over the weekend he wants to reopen bigger, better, 104 00:04:44.720 --> 00:04:46.480 beautifuller Alcatraz. 105 00:04:46.600 --> 00:04:51.879 Nobody's ever escaped from Alcatraz and just represented something strong 106 00:04:52.000 --> 00:04:53.720 having to do with law and order. We need law 107 00:04:53.720 --> 00:04:56.639 and order in this country, and so we're going to 108 00:04:57.480 --> 00:04:59.199 look at it. Some of the people up here are 109 00:04:59.199 --> 00:05:02.800 going to be working very hard on that, and we 110 00:05:02.839 --> 00:05:03.879 had a little conversation. 111 00:05:03.959 --> 00:05:05.360 I think it's going to be very interesting. 112 00:05:05.399 --> 00:05:08.720 We'll see if we can bring it back in large 113 00:05:08.759 --> 00:05:12.040 form add a lot, but I think it represents something 114 00:05:12.319 --> 00:05:15.519 right now. It's a big hulk that's sitting there, rusting 115 00:05:15.600 --> 00:05:16.199 and rotting. 116 00:05:17.800 --> 00:05:19.120 Very uh. 117 00:05:19.480 --> 00:05:21.480 You look at it, it's sort of you saw that 118 00:05:21.519 --> 00:05:24.519 picture that was put out. It's sort of amazing, But 119 00:05:24.839 --> 00:05:29.279 it sort of represents something that's both horrible and beautiful 120 00:05:29.480 --> 00:05:32.759 and strong and miserable weak. 121 00:05:33.399 --> 00:05:34.800 It's got a lot of it's got. 122 00:05:34.680 --> 00:05:36.839 A lot of qualities that are interesting, and I think 123 00:05:36.879 --> 00:05:38.639 they make a point. 124 00:05:38.759 --> 00:05:42.600 And I think that's exactly what I determined to be 125 00:05:42.879 --> 00:05:46.399 his motivation when we talked about this in the first hour, 126 00:05:46.720 --> 00:05:49.120 is it is a symbol of when law and order 127 00:05:49.240 --> 00:05:51.480 meant something and it was awful, and you went to prison, 128 00:05:51.480 --> 00:05:54.360 it was awful, and we've moved away from that. The 129 00:05:54.399 --> 00:05:56.879 way he opens it with no one escaped Alcatraz, it 130 00:05:56.920 --> 00:05:59.920 sounds like we're suffering through some sort of national escape 131 00:06:00.720 --> 00:06:04.120 epidemic of people escaping prisons. That's clearly not the case. 132 00:06:05.120 --> 00:06:09.720 But prisons have become lighter and kinder and softer, and 133 00:06:10.160 --> 00:06:15.000 sending people to prison has become more soft. Whether you're 134 00:06:15.040 --> 00:06:21.600 looking at other diversion programs and things. They don't throw 135 00:06:21.639 --> 00:06:23.639 the book at you nearly the way you used to 136 00:06:23.720 --> 00:06:25.560 think they threw the book at you. And I think 137 00:06:25.600 --> 00:06:28.040 that he's talking about that, and hearkening back to times 138 00:06:28.040 --> 00:06:30.120 when law and order really did mean something and it 139 00:06:30.160 --> 00:06:32.680 was strong in this country, And I think that's what 140 00:06:32.759 --> 00:06:37.079 he's saying. Turning Alcatraz into a workable prison is not 141 00:06:37.199 --> 00:06:41.879 a workable idea. However, logistically it's just not feasible to 142 00:06:41.959 --> 00:06:45.600 do so. It wasn't feasible to do so in nineteen 143 00:06:45.720 --> 00:06:48.720 sixty two when it closed its doors, and it's certainly 144 00:06:49.000 --> 00:06:52.279 a complete tear down now. The money it would cost 145 00:06:52.519 --> 00:06:55.279 not to run things there, but just to get things 146 00:06:55.319 --> 00:06:58.560 back up and running is punitive at best. That's why 147 00:06:58.639 --> 00:07:00.680 it's like the high speed rail. Well, that's about how 148 00:07:00.720 --> 00:07:04.160 much sense it makes now you get it. Really, it's true. 149 00:07:04.560 --> 00:07:08.439 Well, and the difference between that between those two is 150 00:07:08.480 --> 00:07:13.279 that Alcatraz currently makes money. They don't have to house people, 151 00:07:13.319 --> 00:07:15.319 they don't have to bring in food and water, they 152 00:07:15.360 --> 00:07:17.879 don't have to transport prisoners back and forth. It's just 153 00:07:18.000 --> 00:07:20.759 tourists that brings in millions of dollars every year. I 154 00:07:20.759 --> 00:07:24.240 don't know why you would scuttle that just for the 155 00:07:24.319 --> 00:07:27.240 symbol that it is. The other big deal that came 156 00:07:27.240 --> 00:07:30.160 out over the weekend is President Trump sat down with 157 00:07:30.360 --> 00:07:34.959 Kristen Welker from Meet the Press and was asked specifically 158 00:07:35.000 --> 00:07:37.920 about the immigration issues that are going on, the court 159 00:07:38.040 --> 00:07:43.839 fights that are surrounding, specifically the Kilmar Abrego Garcia case. 160 00:07:44.240 --> 00:07:46.720 This is the guy from Maryland sent to El Salvador. 161 00:07:46.959 --> 00:07:51.639 Was he sent unintentionally? Like the Trump administration has said, 162 00:07:51.839 --> 00:07:54.000 Do they have the power to get him back? Can 163 00:07:54.040 --> 00:07:56.240 they be compelled by the Supreme Court to get him back? 164 00:07:56.399 --> 00:07:59.199 Your Secretary of State says, everyone who's here citizens and 165 00:07:59.279 --> 00:08:02.399 non citizens to serve due process. Do you agree? I 166 00:08:02.399 --> 00:08:05.959 don't know. I'm not a lawyer. I don't know. Well, 167 00:08:05.959 --> 00:08:07.439 the Fifth Amendment, I don't know. 168 00:08:07.480 --> 00:08:10.839 It seems it seems it might say that. But if 169 00:08:10.879 --> 00:08:12.879 you're talking about that, then we'd have to have a 170 00:08:12.959 --> 00:08:15.360 million or two million or three million trials. 171 00:08:15.680 --> 00:08:18.000 Uh, you're never going to pick Yes, you're never going 172 00:08:18.079 --> 00:08:20.319 to pin this guy down now, certainly. 173 00:08:19.879 --> 00:08:24.439 Not on the minushav a constitution. Who is coming at 174 00:08:24.439 --> 00:08:27.920 this president to me? See? To me, that is just 175 00:08:28.120 --> 00:08:30.160 such easy gotcha. 176 00:08:29.839 --> 00:08:31.399 Journalism on her part. 177 00:08:31.720 --> 00:08:36.480 Yeah, I mean, you're gonna confront this president with the Constitution, 178 00:08:36.600 --> 00:08:39.159 and I understand the argument, Well, he's the president. Sorry, 179 00:08:39.159 --> 00:08:42.679 I won't do that. That's disrespectful. Well, he is the president 180 00:08:42.720 --> 00:08:44.759 of the United States. He should be well versed on 181 00:08:44.799 --> 00:08:48.679 the Constitution. Yes, let's let's go deeper into the should 182 00:08:48.759 --> 00:08:51.960 be bucket because it is vast, But that's not what 183 00:08:52.000 --> 00:08:57.320 we have. So let's readjust let's pivot accordingly. To come 184 00:08:57.360 --> 00:08:59.879 at this president with a constitution and to try to 185 00:09:00.000 --> 00:09:03.919 ail him down on what he thinks about the interpretation 186 00:09:04.080 --> 00:09:08.360 of the Constitution is an easy gotcha question that you're 187 00:09:08.399 --> 00:09:10.159 going to get the answer of. Well, I don't know, 188 00:09:10.519 --> 00:09:12.600 Maybe we throw it out of course you're going to 189 00:09:12.679 --> 00:09:16.759 get that. That's not clever, that's not and you've generated 190 00:09:16.799 --> 00:09:18.720 the headlines. You've generated the headlines, and that's it. 191 00:09:20.320 --> 00:09:20.600 Again. 192 00:09:20.639 --> 00:09:24.200 It's like, I don't go to this president for somebody 193 00:09:24.240 --> 00:09:26.200 to break down the Constitution for me and what it 194 00:09:26.200 --> 00:09:28.399 means in twenty twenty five and what parts should be 195 00:09:28.480 --> 00:09:30.879 upheld and what should we take a closer look at. 196 00:09:31.480 --> 00:09:35.600 That's not for this guy to decide. Unfortunately, this guy 197 00:09:35.720 --> 00:09:38.320 is the president. But come on, I think we all 198 00:09:38.360 --> 00:09:40.840 know what we're going to get when we go to 199 00:09:40.879 --> 00:09:44.080 that well up next? Are we seeing the end of 200 00:09:44.120 --> 00:09:47.440 American pop culture? Are we in the bad parts right now? 201 00:09:47.679 --> 00:09:50.600 This is the darkness before the lights finally go out. 202 00:09:50.799 --> 00:09:54.159 When was the golden era of pop culture in America? 203 00:09:54.279 --> 00:09:54.360 Uh? 204 00:09:54.399 --> 00:09:55.200 Huh. 205 00:09:55.919 --> 00:09:57.320 I think it depends on how old you are. 206 00:09:57.960 --> 00:10:03.480 If you're sixty, then the late sixties, probably early seventies 207 00:10:03.559 --> 00:10:06.720 was the epitome of pop culture post war, you know. 208 00:10:07.919 --> 00:10:10.240 If you're younger than that, eighties, I don't know. I 209 00:10:10.320 --> 00:10:12.039 think it depends on when you were alive. 210 00:10:12.240 --> 00:10:16.519 Yeah, you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from 211 00:10:16.679 --> 00:10:18.240 KFI AM six forty. 212 00:10:19.480 --> 00:10:22.600 Did you hear Warren Buffett's sound clip of him saying 213 00:10:22.639 --> 00:10:23.759 it's time to hang it up. 214 00:10:24.159 --> 00:10:25.879 It sounds like it's time to hang out. 215 00:10:26.120 --> 00:10:30.120 Yeah, that was exactly my thought as well. My goodness, 216 00:10:30.600 --> 00:10:33.960 I mean, what a what a run? What ain't freaking run? 217 00:10:34.000 --> 00:10:36.320 Ninety four? Two ninety two? 218 00:10:37.200 --> 00:10:43.879 Well, well potatoes, Patatas six decades, my god. 219 00:10:45.080 --> 00:10:46.320 Running Berkshire Hathaway. 220 00:10:47.480 --> 00:10:51.279 Bottom of the hour, we'll talk about telephone etiquette. Landlines 221 00:10:51.399 --> 00:10:53.799 are coming back because we need to teach kids how 222 00:10:53.840 --> 00:10:54.480 to use. 223 00:10:54.360 --> 00:10:57.440 The telephone telephone, telephone. 224 00:10:58.840 --> 00:11:03.799 Why is it that they need a physical phone to 225 00:11:03.879 --> 00:11:05.240 learn etiquette. 226 00:11:04.720 --> 00:11:09.039 With I don't know, because we're big, dumb animals and 227 00:11:10.159 --> 00:11:12.639 there are weird triggers like that, Or it's the people 228 00:11:12.639 --> 00:11:15.799 who are teaching telephone etiquette feel like that was the 229 00:11:15.879 --> 00:11:17.960 last time we had good telephone etiquette. 230 00:11:17.960 --> 00:11:20.759 So maybe that's why. Maybe that's why. 231 00:11:21.000 --> 00:11:23.960 Maybe it's like teaching somebody to drive, but doing it 232 00:11:24.000 --> 00:11:27.080 on a stick shift as opposed to an automatic transmission. 233 00:11:27.279 --> 00:11:27.799 It's funny. 234 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:31.399 Older people are delightful on the telephone, aren't they. Yeah, 235 00:11:31.440 --> 00:11:35.960 they really are, more so I think than even in person. 236 00:11:36.600 --> 00:11:40.039 People that are of an older generation are delightful on 237 00:11:40.080 --> 00:11:40.480 the phone. 238 00:11:40.840 --> 00:11:42.200 How old would you say. 239 00:11:42.639 --> 00:11:48.799 I would say seventies, sixties, seventies. There's like there's different 240 00:11:48.879 --> 00:11:54.480 bar for behavior. You're awful on the telephone, I know, 241 00:11:54.960 --> 00:11:59.039 because there's two Okay, what do you that's not fair. 242 00:11:59.480 --> 00:12:01.720 First of all, I have no idea because I don't 243 00:12:01.720 --> 00:12:04.840 spend much time on the phone. I say, since there 244 00:12:04.919 --> 00:12:07.000 was something going on over there, So I decided to 245 00:12:07.360 --> 00:12:08.639 throw this little bait in the water. 246 00:12:08.840 --> 00:12:12.200 If you text me on a Sunday morning, and then 247 00:12:12.600 --> 00:12:15.960 if you were to have called me, there's two reasons 248 00:12:15.960 --> 00:12:18.840 why you would call me something awful. That's why I 249 00:12:18.919 --> 00:12:23.559 just text you. I know that's something awful has happened, 250 00:12:24.879 --> 00:12:27.679 or I'm not going to be to work, yes, and 251 00:12:27.919 --> 00:12:31.360 because awful that happened, So that's going to be an 252 00:12:32.039 --> 00:12:34.480 that's gonna be an awful phone call. Most of I 253 00:12:34.519 --> 00:12:36.279 shouldn't even say most of the time. A lot of 254 00:12:36.279 --> 00:12:37.759 the times that's my from me. 255 00:12:37.879 --> 00:12:39.320 Yeah, So when you pick up the phone for me, 256 00:12:39.519 --> 00:12:44.559 it's most likely what I hear is this, Yes. 257 00:12:45.840 --> 00:12:46.320 What is it? 258 00:12:46.559 --> 00:12:50.440 Yeah, that's because something has happened. When you called me 259 00:12:50.519 --> 00:12:52.240 last week, the last time you called me is because 260 00:12:52.240 --> 00:12:55.840 you started a fire right then. I didn't even answer 261 00:12:55.919 --> 00:12:59.639 the phone. Which would have been bad, I assumed had 262 00:12:59.639 --> 00:13:00.879 you start it an actual fire. 263 00:13:00.919 --> 00:13:02.679 That was the only reason I called you when I 264 00:13:02.679 --> 00:13:06.919 started the fire in the home was because you had 265 00:13:07.320 --> 00:13:09.720 talked earlier in the day about how I was kind 266 00:13:09.720 --> 00:13:11.320 of in a mood where I was going to set 267 00:13:11.360 --> 00:13:13.440 something on fire, or are you going to set the 268 00:13:13.440 --> 00:13:16.440 building on fire? Or you had made some mention about fire, 269 00:13:17.000 --> 00:13:19.200 and I was like, you're crazy, what are you talking about? 270 00:13:19.240 --> 00:13:21.559 I'm fine, And then I went home and promptly started 271 00:13:21.559 --> 00:13:24.960 a fire. So I wanted you to have the payoff 272 00:13:25.039 --> 00:13:26.440 of your premonition. 273 00:13:28.120 --> 00:13:35.120 There's an article in The Atlantic magazine about the end 274 00:13:35.679 --> 00:13:39.960 of American pop culture, and there's an interesting way to 275 00:13:40.039 --> 00:13:43.759 look at this argument that we are right now in 276 00:13:43.759 --> 00:13:46.919 one of the worst eras when it comes to pop 277 00:13:47.080 --> 00:13:49.559 American specific American pop culture. 278 00:13:49.559 --> 00:13:51.799 Well, you think about pop culture, what do you think 279 00:13:51.840 --> 00:13:57.799 about You think about music, trends, fashion, right, my movies, 280 00:13:57.919 --> 00:14:02.000 things like that. A lot of it is meme culture, 281 00:14:02.360 --> 00:14:05.600 a lot of it's TikTok culture. Right, It's just changed. 282 00:14:06.360 --> 00:14:07.919 It's changed from what we remember. 283 00:14:08.399 --> 00:14:11.320 But is it good? We can can you put a 284 00:14:11.399 --> 00:14:14.159 value like that? That's what I mean. 285 00:14:14.279 --> 00:14:20.559 Yeah, we like to think about when we have celebrated 286 00:14:20.639 --> 00:14:25.320 eighties and nineties entertainment movies, TV shows and things like that, 287 00:14:26.000 --> 00:14:29.120 there were there was a very different attitude towards those 288 00:14:29.159 --> 00:14:32.799 things because there was a built in waiting period. Whether 289 00:14:32.840 --> 00:14:34.519 it was a TV show like you said, last week, 290 00:14:34.600 --> 00:14:36.840 we talked about did you see what happened on Seinfeld 291 00:14:36.919 --> 00:14:39.320 last night? That was the discussion every Friday at school 292 00:14:39.399 --> 00:14:41.519 or at college or at work. What did you watch 293 00:14:41.519 --> 00:14:43.799 Seinfeld last night? Of course I watched Seinfeld last night. 294 00:14:43.840 --> 00:14:46.879 Of course it was hilarious. But now it's have you 295 00:14:46.960 --> 00:14:51.480 seen this entire season of did you sit on your. 296 00:14:51.519 --> 00:14:53.679 Couch for nine hours? Like I did? 297 00:14:53.759 --> 00:14:56.159 On Sunday? Oh? 298 00:14:56.240 --> 00:14:59.720 Man plays into so many different ills of society, doesn't 299 00:14:59.759 --> 00:15:00.279 it well? 300 00:15:00.320 --> 00:15:01.919 And I think that there was a we had a 301 00:15:01.919 --> 00:15:04.039 different attitude back then. If you had, it was the 302 00:15:04.039 --> 00:15:08.799 delayed gratification of whatever. The album didn't come out until June. 303 00:15:09.039 --> 00:15:11.240 You knew when it was coming out. They didn't preview 304 00:15:11.279 --> 00:15:13.919 it with singles at least that were available to you. 305 00:15:13.919 --> 00:15:16.120 You could hear it on the radio, but you couldn't 306 00:15:16.159 --> 00:15:18.639 go out and buy that single necessarily before the big 307 00:15:18.679 --> 00:15:19.399 album came out. 308 00:15:19.440 --> 00:15:19.679 Whatever. 309 00:15:20.120 --> 00:15:25.600 The anticipation is a fantastic feeling. Look no further than 310 00:15:25.679 --> 00:15:31.559 Carly Simon. But anticipation is something nobody feels anymore because 311 00:15:31.559 --> 00:15:35.799 we're instantly gratified with everything right, there is no anticipation. 312 00:15:36.399 --> 00:15:42.000 The only anticipation that remains really is maybe waiting to 313 00:15:42.000 --> 00:15:43.600 go on a trip if that's your thing. 314 00:15:43.639 --> 00:15:46.519 If you're into travel, sure, the countdown to your vacation. 315 00:15:46.720 --> 00:15:49.360 Everything else is just it's right here, you want it now, 316 00:15:49.399 --> 00:15:51.840 you got it, your tomorrow. 317 00:15:52.080 --> 00:15:58.039 They also describe the explosion of creativity and creative expression 318 00:15:58.679 --> 00:16:03.039 in the United States right now. More than five hundred 319 00:16:03.080 --> 00:16:07.279 scripted TV shows get made every single year, and get this, 320 00:16:07.759 --> 00:16:15.960 streaming services add about one hundred thousand songs every single Well, what. 321 00:16:15.919 --> 00:16:18.480 Does that mean for the quality? Right, let's talk about 322 00:16:18.480 --> 00:16:19.120 it when we come back. 323 00:16:20.240 --> 00:16:23.679 You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI 324 00:16:23.919 --> 00:16:24.799 AM six forty. 325 00:16:24.960 --> 00:16:27.240 I know you think you bested me. Oh okay, but 326 00:16:27.399 --> 00:16:29.919 I will raise the bar to women who like cars. 327 00:16:30.600 --> 00:16:32.519 This is for you, right, there's such a thing. 328 00:16:32.799 --> 00:16:36.840 Dozens. That's a funny word in this context. Dozens of 329 00:16:36.919 --> 00:16:39.960 women gathered over the weekend in Dubai to take part 330 00:16:40.000 --> 00:16:43.480 in a car rally organized by the area's first ever 331 00:16:43.600 --> 00:16:50.840 all female supercar owners club, the Arabian Gazelles thirty women. 332 00:16:53.639 --> 00:16:57.440 In the Old Country. You got thirty women into cars? Well, 333 00:16:57.480 --> 00:17:01.840 I mean they're not They're not allowed, you know. Yeah, 334 00:17:02.039 --> 00:17:04.279 the whole bears that we were talking about. 335 00:17:04.279 --> 00:17:08.480 This article from Spencer Cornhabra the worst ever era of 336 00:17:08.519 --> 00:17:11.519 American pop culture and just in terms of are we 337 00:17:11.960 --> 00:17:14.720 you know, movies all sound the same, TV shows all 338 00:17:14.759 --> 00:17:16.920 sound the same. Art is the same as it used 339 00:17:16.960 --> 00:17:19.400 to be, and a lot of times the people that 340 00:17:19.480 --> 00:17:22.599 produce that kind of entertainment for us are relying on 341 00:17:22.720 --> 00:17:25.480 the old things to bring us back. I mean, they 342 00:17:25.599 --> 00:17:28.559 just re released was it, Phantom Menace, one of the 343 00:17:28.559 --> 00:17:30.799 Star Wars movies, and it made millions of dollars at 344 00:17:30.839 --> 00:17:33.279 the box office. Everybody's seen that. We've all seen it. 345 00:17:33.400 --> 00:17:37.200 We've all seen it, and we still will pay money 346 00:17:37.279 --> 00:17:39.640 for the things that we've seen before. They also, I 347 00:17:39.680 --> 00:17:43.079 had mentioned that there's about one hundred thousand songs reportedly 348 00:17:43.640 --> 00:17:48.519 every day added to streaming services, and I found this interesting. 349 00:17:48.599 --> 00:17:52.240 In twenty twenty four, new releases accounted for a little 350 00:17:52.279 --> 00:17:55.000 more than a quarter of all of the albums. 351 00:17:54.519 --> 00:17:56.039 Consumed in the United States. 352 00:17:56.079 --> 00:17:58.880 Just a quarter that every year a greater and greater 353 00:17:58.960 --> 00:18:01.599 percentage of the album that are streamed online would be 354 00:18:01.640 --> 00:18:05.079 considered catalog music means at least eighteen months old. 355 00:18:05.839 --> 00:18:12.000 Well. In three twelve CE, the Roman Senate ordered the 356 00:18:12.039 --> 00:18:17.240 construction of a monument called the Arch of Constantine. It 357 00:18:17.359 --> 00:18:22.920 incorporated pieces from older monuments built in more glorious times 358 00:18:22.960 --> 00:18:26.559 for the empire, which had begun its centuary a century's 359 00:18:26.640 --> 00:18:32.240 long decline. This is a metaphor for modern culture. The 360 00:18:32.359 --> 00:18:37.680 Arch is the TV and film industry enamored of reboots, 361 00:18:37.920 --> 00:18:42.839 spin offs, the formulaic genre. Fair like you were talking about. 362 00:18:43.880 --> 00:18:46.279 I love this one line where he talks about Broadway 363 00:18:46.359 --> 00:18:51.920 theaters subsist on stunt cast revivals of old war horses. 364 00:18:52.160 --> 00:18:58.200 One of those that's going on right now is Glengarry 365 00:18:58.279 --> 00:19:03.720 Glenn Ross. Ye asked that includes stand up comedians at 366 00:19:03.880 --> 00:19:06.759 Academy Award winning actors. It's not just a bunch of 367 00:19:06.920 --> 00:19:09.400 up and coming actors that you used to see on Broadway. 368 00:19:09.440 --> 00:19:13.680 These are people that are kind of crossing genres their 369 00:19:13.759 --> 00:19:21.240 word stunt cast in these shows. Does this mean that 370 00:19:21.279 --> 00:19:24.359 we're declining? Does it mean we hit a slow spot 371 00:19:24.440 --> 00:19:25.480 when it comes to innovation? 372 00:19:25.640 --> 00:19:29.839 I'm sure we are at the end of creativity. Have 373 00:19:29.960 --> 00:19:31.839 we done all of the things? 374 00:19:32.759 --> 00:19:40.599 If it's possible, and if artificial intelligence continues to progress 375 00:19:40.680 --> 00:19:45.680 at the level that it does, we're really screwed because 376 00:19:45.920 --> 00:19:49.400 no one's going to want to even put brain energy. 377 00:19:49.440 --> 00:19:51.599 They're not going to want to put the calories into 378 00:19:52.559 --> 00:19:56.480 thinking about creative endeavors. If all we have to do 379 00:19:56.799 --> 00:19:59.559 is simply ask Ai to make something for us. 380 00:19:59.440 --> 00:20:01.920 I think the we're going to see the pendulum swing here. 381 00:20:02.279 --> 00:20:04.680 You and I were talking off the air. I was 382 00:20:05.000 --> 00:20:10.880 lamenting about the decline of production in radio. It could 383 00:20:10.880 --> 00:20:14.960 be podcasts, it could be radio news, what have you. 384 00:20:15.000 --> 00:20:18.279 When I started, there were a lot of reporters and 385 00:20:18.359 --> 00:20:22.440 anchors that were obsessed and it was so much fun 386 00:20:22.440 --> 00:20:26.000 to listen to when it came to production elements, whether 387 00:20:26.039 --> 00:20:28.880 it was just an ear of sound, of taking ambient 388 00:20:29.000 --> 00:20:31.559 sound that runs under a sound bite and carrying it 389 00:20:31.599 --> 00:20:34.480 through your entire piece as a reporter or an anchor 390 00:20:34.559 --> 00:20:37.440 or what have you. There was so much more of that. 391 00:20:37.480 --> 00:20:40.319 It felt like we were constantly trying to one up 392 00:20:40.319 --> 00:20:44.000 each other when it came to making a pleasing sound 393 00:20:44.079 --> 00:20:47.400 for the ear, something coming out of the radio, something 394 00:20:47.400 --> 00:20:51.200 that made you go huh, you know, or just wow, 395 00:20:51.279 --> 00:20:53.920 that's a really clear sound or really good sound, or 396 00:20:54.000 --> 00:20:56.960 really well put together things like that. And now we're 397 00:20:57.039 --> 00:20:59.839 kind of in this era of just kind of bare bones. 398 00:21:00.440 --> 00:21:03.759 When you listen to even at the onset of podcasts, 399 00:21:03.799 --> 00:21:08.640 and a couple of them come to mind, the podcast 400 00:21:08.839 --> 00:21:11.480 of the man who made all those clocks in the 401 00:21:11.519 --> 00:21:14.359