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Speaker 1: X Kay Widner, welcome back to the show. It's good
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Speaker 2: Hey, it's good to be back. How's everything going.
Speaker 1: Doing really well? Working on the new documentary every single day.
Speaker 1: You might indeed be my last show for a while
Speaker 1: until I get this thing completed, So it's going to
Speaker 1: be a good one to send the people off with.
Speaker 2: Good. Yeah. I'm working on my documentary too, and looks
Speaker 2: like we'll be done around the same time period. That's interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a real I mean, the Gate Program
Speaker 1: stuff just it just kept going for a while, and
Speaker 1: more that I would look into it, the more things
Speaker 1: would unravel, and then I would have to go back
Speaker 1: and then re addit some things and add some things in,
Speaker 1: because it's just a I really think and I believe
Speaker 1: that it's the story of the past two decades.
Speaker 2: I would agree. I had Destin Barnaby on last week.
Speaker 2: She did an mk Ultra for children, a really good
Speaker 2: book in which she kind of goes into Messagers of
Speaker 2: Deception by Jacques Belllee and Communion by Whitley Strieber and
Speaker 2: kind of does a twist on it where maybe instead
Speaker 2: of it being aliens from outer space, these programs, like
Speaker 2: the Gate programs actually creating psychics and they're having psychic
Speaker 2: experiences and not really understanding what's going on. And I
Speaker 2: think that's actually the true.
Speaker 1: And it's connected to the Monroe Institute of Gateway tapes.
Speaker 1: They get these children to have these out of body experiences,
Speaker 1: go and communicate with intelligences outside of their body, and
Speaker 1: then they come back and then they don't remember anything
Speaker 1: because it felt like a dream. Yeah, it gets really
Speaker 1: and it's an explainer for almost everything it's happening.
Speaker 2: It is an explainer for everything. I mean, if you
Speaker 2: go into the Gate program, you know, you have one
Speaker 2: or two choices. You either comply or you don't comply.
Speaker 2: And what happens to a psychic kid who doesn't comply, Well,
Speaker 2: he's a very dangerous person, now, isn't he? And this
Speaker 2: might explain why there's such widespread drug use, hard drug
Speaker 2: use and by these same group of people that went
Speaker 2: to these Gate programs. I'm not saying every drug addy
Speaker 2: went to the Gate program. I'm just saying that if
Speaker 2: you don't comply with what the authorities, why what do
Speaker 2: they do with you? You know? So I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think it's amazing because in the time of the
Speaker 2: Gate programs, that's when our homeless population started rising, that's
Speaker 2: when the drug use started going up. And I just wonder, really,
Speaker 2: what's going on here, Because if you really wanted to
Speaker 2: hold down a psychic person, I would think fatonyla would
Speaker 2: be like the best thing you could do to them.
Speaker 1: It would completely numbed them out. I saw a really
Speaker 1: interesting video the other day that was talking about all
Speaker 1: of the insane asylums in the United States that started
Speaker 1: popping up in the early nineteen hundreds and went into
Speaker 1: like the mid nineteen hundreds, and this person was like,
Speaker 1: why did we need so many insane asylums? Were there
Speaker 1: really that many insane people around at that time? It
Speaker 1: seems like there's more insane people out right now and
Speaker 1: we don't have a saene asylums and there were back
Speaker 1: in the early nineteen hundreds.
Speaker 2: Well, I was living in California when Reagan got rid
Speaker 2: of the insane asylums and we were flooded with crazy people.
Speaker 2: I'm sure anybody it's my age who was living there
Speaker 2: at the time. I can remember all the crazy people.
Speaker 2: Union Square in San Francisco was just flooded with them
Speaker 2: all turning into drug addicts and things. But I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, you know, in nineteen twenty,
Speaker 2: if you were gay, you would be thrown into it
Speaker 2: insane asylum. So they were throwing everybody and in fact,
Speaker 2: what's his name, the gangster I can't remember his name now, Meyer,
Speaker 2: he had his wife. His wife was walking around in
Speaker 2: a party saying, you wouldn't believe what my husband does
Speaker 2: for a living. You wouldn't believe what my husband does
Speaker 2: for a living. Eight and a half later she would
Speaker 2: sit in sane asylum. There's a scene in Godfather where
Speaker 2: Michael Corleo's brother his wife was walking around in a
Speaker 2: party saying that, and then she disappears. So you know,
Speaker 2: they were used by the powers that be to get
Speaker 2: rid of members of families or spouses that were cooperating.
Speaker 2: But other reasons too. A lot of I believe a
Speaker 2: lot of refugees from lands that were conquered were put
Speaker 2: into the insane asylums because didn't anybody talking, So if
Speaker 2: they were labeled insane, and he told people what really
Speaker 2: happened to him, everyone would not believe them. So it
Speaker 2: kind of you get like a mark on you when
Speaker 2: you go to instante asylum. So it's really good for
Speaker 2: keeping talk you don't want talked about down out. So
Speaker 2: there's a lot of reasons why they did it, but
Speaker 2: they broke it, and then the insane people are now
Speaker 2: flooding our streets and I think, actually, we're going to
Speaker 2: have to do something about that. I don't know what,
Speaker 2: but we're going to have to do something. It's out outrageous,
Speaker 2: even in my little small town. Yeah, crazy people walking
Speaker 2: around just like mental illnesses everywhere right now.
Speaker 1: Well, that's what this lady was positing, was that the
Speaker 1: insane asylums were actually built for people that remembered the
Speaker 1: old world.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now I don't know if that's accurate or not, but
Speaker 1: I thought that it was really interesting. I mean, that
Speaker 1: would be a good way to get rid of, you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of people, because it's like what you were saying.
Speaker 1: You could literally just go and drop off your wife
Speaker 1: at one of these insane asylums, say that she's sick,
Speaker 1: and then they would take her and you would never
Speaker 1: see her again, she would just be gone, she would
Speaker 1: just disappear.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: There's even one that I saw that was like just
Speaker 1: for stupid stuff like oh it's funny, but masturbation. They
Speaker 1: would literally disturbation.
Speaker 2: Yep. That's considered mentally ill. Yep. Meanwhile, the real crazy,
Speaker 2: you know, running around doing terrible things at that same time.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you look at uh, say, Cormick McCarthy's
Speaker 2: book Blood Meridian, which is about you know, the late West,
Speaker 2: late eighteen hundreds of the West, I mean those people
Speaker 2: were vicious killers, and I mean it. You know, it's
Speaker 2: a hard book to read because he doesn't hold back
Speaker 2: on anything. He tells you exactly what it was like.
Speaker 2: And it was not fun. Let me tell you. So
Speaker 2: those people were insane, but they never went to an
Speaker 2: insane asylum.
Speaker 1: And the thing about it too, is like the architecture
Speaker 1: of a lot of these insene asylums were like in cdible,
Speaker 1: like they looked.
Speaker 2: Way out of bounds. They had like twelve to eighteen
Speaker 2: foot ceilings. Why would you want to heat a room
Speaker 2: with an eighteen foot ceiling. I mean, the entire twelve
Speaker 2: feet of the room is getting all the heat and
Speaker 2: you're not getting any So it just seems so weird
Speaker 2: that they would give them such elaborate places for insane
Speaker 2: people to live, gigantic estates that seemed to have no
Speaker 2: reason to exist, and yet they put them there. And
Speaker 2: then they tore them down after they stopped all that
Speaker 2: stuff in the nineteen sixties, and they tore down all
Speaker 2: these big buildings, like they tore down all the big
Speaker 2: buildings old buildings in the United States in the nineteen sixties.
Speaker 2: I've mentioned this before. I watched them go down when
Speaker 2: I was a kid, and my dad said that we
Speaker 2: had to get rid of the old and bring in
Speaker 2: the new. They got rid of the old, and the
Speaker 2: entire downtown area of my town just fell art, completely
Speaker 2: fall apart. Nobody went there anymore, and it's just poverty
Speaker 2: and everything. But all the nice architecture was gone and
Speaker 2: replaced with steel and glass buildings. So I know what
Speaker 2: the heck that was all about. But I saw it
Speaker 2: happen with my own eyes, and I know it happened
Speaker 2: all over the country. And another thing is is like
Speaker 2: I picked one building in my hometown, which is the
Speaker 2: town cathedral, and I went in to look at who
Speaker 2: built it, who designed it and everything. I couldn't find
Speaker 2: any records, and I searched and I searched and I searched,
Speaker 2: and I know that the Catholic Church would keep these records,
Speaker 2: but I couldn't find anything. So I can't tell you
Speaker 2: to this day anything about the history of it. And
Speaker 2: I suspect that a lot of buildings, old buildings, have
Speaker 2: very obfuscated origin stories. So do I think that there
Speaker 2: was something here before the Europeans arrived of a high
Speaker 2: quality of nature. And I think there was. I'm pretty
Speaker 2: sure there was, in fact, because I have I have
Speaker 2: an It was a digest of twelve magazines that was
Speaker 2: in eighteen fifty nine, and it was about the history
Speaker 2: of America. And in one of the magazines it says
Speaker 2: that there were stuff all over the country that the
Speaker 2: settlers found, giant stuff, giant buildings and tombs and castles,
Speaker 2: and even churches, or at least places that looked like churches.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think that there might be something to
Speaker 2: this whole theory. I don't think the Chicago World's Fair, though,
Speaker 2: is part of this theory. Chicago World's Fair were just
Speaker 2: giant plaster buildings. Most of the guys that made the
Speaker 2: buildings went on to work in Hollywood, Cecilbe to mill
Speaker 2: films that were these giant epics of Egypt and you know,
Speaker 2: Napoleon and all that, and they built these huge giant
Speaker 2: sets built just like the Chicago Fair. Everything in Chicago
Speaker 2: burned down in eighteen seventy one. Nothing survived. It was
Speaker 2: the greatest urban fire in American history. And it was
Speaker 2: vicious and outrageous and completely unexplainable. So that part of
Speaker 2: the whole thing is wrong, But there are other parts
Speaker 2: that do seem to say that there was something here already. Well.
Speaker 1: One of the most incredible insane asylums that is still
Speaker 1: standing is the trans Alleghany Lunatic Asylum in western West Virginia.
Speaker 1: This is the second largest hand cut building in the
Speaker 1: United States.
Speaker 2: So that's how much it costs to heat that thing.
Speaker 1: A fortune it we call the Fortune. It's so big
Speaker 1: that you can't even get a photo of it without
Speaker 1: having a drone, Like to get the entire building in
Speaker 1: the same shot. You can't do it. You would have
Speaker 1: to have a drone.
Speaker 2: I wonder how many people that thing housed.
Speaker 1: A lot. It's huge. I've been there before, I've been
Speaker 1: inside it. Before, and it is a very big facility.
Speaker 1: It is gigantic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty curious. I have to say, why would
Speaker 2: you build a building like that? Why don't just build
Speaker 2: something easy to build since you're just housing a bunch
Speaker 2: of crazy people. Why have all the ornamentation and the
Speaker 2: towers and the fancy front door and just don't know,
Speaker 2: it just doesn't look like anything that you would build
Speaker 2: to house crazy people. You'd want to go as cheap
Speaker 2: as possible. You don't want the rooms to be as
Speaker 2: small as possible so you could heat them easily without
Speaker 2: wasting too much money. Are the ceilings high inside that thing?
Speaker 1: Yeah? They're pretty high. Yeah, at least ten foot high
Speaker 1: each ceiling. And there used to be a bell that
Speaker 1: was in this top tower here because they used to
Speaker 1: let the insane people room around and then they would
Speaker 1: ring the bell and I would let them know when
Speaker 1: they come back into the facility.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well there you go, I mean, And they were
Speaker 2: all over the place. In my hometown too. We had
Speaker 2: one that wasn't that big, but it was big, and
Speaker 2: they tore it down in the sixties. But yeah, it's
Speaker 2: a very curious thing, and I don't understand it, and
Speaker 2: I don't get it. I really don't. Is it possible
Speaker 2: or is that many crazy people in the late eighteen
Speaker 2: hundreds and early nineteen hundreds in the United States. It's
Speaker 2: just like, you know, why.
Speaker 1: Would they be deemed insane? The only reason that they
Speaker 1: would be deemed insane is if they were talking about
Speaker 1: stuff that you didn't want them to be talking about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not like psychiatry was a gigantic profession at
Speaker 2: the time. It really didn't start tell Freud and Young
Speaker 2: in the twenties, so there was nobody analyzing these people
Speaker 2: that had any stature. So anybody that you didn't like,
Speaker 2: or anybody of a religion or a race that you
Speaker 2: didn't like, you just have them thrown in the insane
Speaker 2: South and no judges are involved. You're not arrested, you know, well,
Speaker 2: you have to go to court or anything. You're thrown in.
Speaker 2: And by whose authority I mean, even today, who has
Speaker 2: the authority to throw asuto a mental institution will have
Speaker 2: to be a court appointed psychiatrist or I guess not
Speaker 2: that I would trust that, but yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's just really weird. The whole time period from about
Speaker 2: eighteen fifty to about nineteen twenty all over the world.
Speaker 2: It's just this weird time period where everything is shifting
Speaker 2: and moving and changing, and cities are being added all
Speaker 2: across the United States, and millions of people are pouring
Speaker 2: into New York and then leaving New York and pouring
Speaker 2: out into the country, while another million pour into New
Speaker 2: York from all around the world. And there's this huge
Speaker 2: population shifts, and you know, it's like, don't understand it.
Speaker 1: Well, we got a lot of stuff happening right now.
Speaker 1: We got the Artemis to launch that I didn't even
Speaker 1: know was going to be happening. I mean, I hadn't
Speaker 1: known that NASA had been planning on going back to
Speaker 1: the They've been planning on going back to the Moon
Speaker 1: since like two thousand and four. You've been planning this
Speaker 1: forever and then it just never really happened. But this
Speaker 1: Artemis two mission doesn't Actually they're not actually landing on
Speaker 1: the Moon. They're just doing a drive by. They're doing
Speaker 1: a figure eight around the Moon. But I thought that
Speaker 1: this timing was really suspicious. They did this on April
Speaker 1: fools Day.
Speaker 2: J Yeah, Well they're gonna need it because they got
Speaker 2: to go through this thing called the Van Allen Belt
Speaker 2: and Van Allen Belt, by NASA's own assessment, is highly
Speaker 2: radioactive and will give everybody that goes through a cancer,
Speaker 2: and it will give wreck all of the instruments. This
Speaker 2: is NASA's own report. So how are they getting through
Speaker 2: twice through the Van Allen Belt without going not going
Speaker 2: to have any damage? And so I'm very suspicious of
Speaker 2: this mission and I don't buy it just because of
Speaker 2: that reason, you know. And also they're not even really
Speaker 2: getting very close to the Moon. They're like way far away,
Speaker 2: you know. The Apollo missions supposedly were like was it
Speaker 2: eight miles above the moon? This guy, this thing's gonna
Speaker 2: be way far away, but she's gonna be very convenient
Speaker 2: because in that way we don't get to see anything
Speaker 2: that's on the Moon from the distance that there they're
Speaker 2: going to be. And and none of it makes any sense.
Speaker 2: None of it makes any sense. So I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think it is an April fool joke.
Speaker 1: Actually, I thought that was so strange. On April fools
Speaker 1: are launching it, and like why would they take that date?
Speaker 1: It doesn't make any like, yeah, it's exactly what you're saying.
Speaker 1: The Van Allen radiation. But you cannot get into space
Speaker 1: from Florida. You just can't. You have to launch from
Speaker 1: the North South Pole. That's the only way to get
Speaker 1: around the radio.
Speaker 2: To get away from it. And that's why I know
Speaker 2: that that's where the secret Space program base is Antarctica.
Speaker 2: It's probably underground and you can't see it even anyway,
Speaker 2: but you can't fly over Antarctica anyway. But yeah, this
Speaker 2: is just it's just for show. They they aren't even
Speaker 2: nobody's even asking them about the Van Allen Bell. They
Speaker 2: did ask him about why you can't take cameras with you.
Speaker 2: That was a pretty funny response. They well, nineteen sixty nine,
Speaker 2: you guys got to take a camera with it. How
Speaker 2: come you guys are going to take a camera with you? So,
Speaker 2: you know, I don't believe it. I hate to say
Speaker 2: it because I really once believed in our space program.
Speaker 2: But you can tell. Somebody tells me how they're getting
Speaker 2: through the Van Allen Belt. I'm not buying this mission
Speaker 2: at all. We know, you know, It's not like we
Speaker 2: don't know it. We send Geiger counters up there all
Speaker 2: the time to do testing on the Van Allen Belt.
Speaker 2: It's hotter than exposed nuclear power plant. It's it absorbs
Speaker 2: all the radiation and outer space, so we don't have
Speaker 2: to get it, which is kind of suspicious in itself,
Speaker 2: Like how do we get so lucky that we have
Speaker 2: a belt around us that no other planet has that
Speaker 2: absorbs all the radiation coming from space? You know?
Speaker 1: Well? I read an article, yeah, shulday, I can't find
Speaker 1: it right now, but it was talking about how the
Speaker 1: astronauts there's four astronauts on this supposed rocket and apparently
Speaker 1: they're just you know, flabbergasted by seeing Earth from space
Speaker 1: or whatever, and apparently they're taking photos of it, like
Speaker 1: of Earth from space, like maybe their phones or something
Speaker 1: like that. And I was like, well, let's see those photos, Like,
Speaker 1: show us those photos. I want to see them. You
Speaker 1: know what's going on. I'm trying to find the article here,
Speaker 1: but I can't find it. It was there's been like
Speaker 1: twenty different articles that's been posted since yesterday, but it's
Speaker 1: said that that the astronauts were taking photos of Earth
Speaker 1: as they were launching in the space.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen any, haven't either.
Speaker 1: Let's see him where they at?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I should be easily transmittable, so let's do it.
Speaker 2: Let's see it. How about the Moon? You guys gonna
Speaker 2: take pictures of the Moon. Maybe with a telephoto lens,
Speaker 2: it would be nice. Get a shot of Aristarchus Crater
Speaker 2: where all the UFOs are seen all the time. Let's
Speaker 2: do that. I got a whole list of stuff I
Speaker 2: want you to take pictures of, now, honest with you,
Speaker 2: But I bet you don't get nothing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and why don't we put why don't we just
Speaker 1: put a moon rover up there? Like that's the thing
Speaker 1: that baffles me, Like, that's the easiest thing to do.
Speaker 1: If we can. If you believe that we put a
Speaker 1: rover on, then why can we not put a rover
Speaker 1: on the Moon?
Speaker 2: We can, and if it's possible to get it on Mars,
Speaker 2: and of course it's going to be possible to get
Speaker 2: it on the Moon. I guess they would say, you
Speaker 2: can't use a parachute, so they parachute to the one
Speaker 2: on Mars down because Mars has an atmosphere, so that's
Speaker 2: why it was such an easy thing to do, supposedly,
Speaker 2: But there is no atmosphere on the Moon, so you
Speaker 2: couldn't use that. You couldn't use that, but you could
Speaker 2: set a small probe. You know, something is like a
Speaker 2: couple of feet long. Right's land on the moon. Let
Speaker 2: the probe out, Let it robe around. Let's see what's
Speaker 2: going on. If they won't, you know, they already have
Speaker 2: if it's possible, if the rover technology is actually possible,
Speaker 2: you know, they have a rover on the moon.
Speaker 1: I mean that would really end the entire the b
Speaker 1: in the entire conspiracy, right, you just throw a freaking
Speaker 1: rover up there, and then it just it ends all
Speaker 1: with speculation. But they don't.
Speaker 2: Well, I was on I think George Norri's radio show
Speaker 2: one time talking about the secret space program, and a
Speaker 2: caller called in and he said that he worked at
Speaker 2: I can't remember what base it was, and he was
Speaker 2: the courier on the base. And he went from building
Speaker 2: the building, handing out mail right and receiving mail right
Speaker 2: to send. And he went to this one building. It
Speaker 2: was top secret building. The doors were always locked, so
Speaker 2: he always had like finagle the mail under the door.
Speaker 2: And one day he was delivering the mail and the
Speaker 2: door was open. It was like a garage door, right,
Speaker 2: and a steel building, and so he just walked right
Speaker 2: through the garage door and he sees one of the
Speaker 2: scientists is working, you know, can't see him, got his
Speaker 2: back to him, and he walks past a it looked
Speaker 2: just like a van, a regular van, a car van,
Speaker 2: but he didn't have any wheels or any place for
Speaker 2: the wheel. Who was sitting flat on the floor and
Speaker 2: it had you four rows and everything. And he walked
Speaker 2: up to the guy. You go, here's your mail. He said, oh, thanks,
Speaker 2: He goes, what kind of van is that? He goes, Oh,
Speaker 2: that's what we use up on the Moon, on our
Speaker 2: moon base to get around. Casually shot it and they
Speaker 2: walked out of the room. That was it. And so
Speaker 2: it would be absolutely insane that not to have a
Speaker 2: military presence on the Moon. Because his son Zeus said,
Speaker 2: you have to have the high ground, and that is
Speaker 2: definitely the high ground. So I've always you know, I've
Speaker 2: been told by people that we have a base up there,
Speaker 2: very sophisticated base, and that's why they don't put the
Speaker 2: rover up because you're going to get seen. Our ships
Speaker 2: are going to get seen, and the base is going
Speaker 2: to get seen, and we won't be able to say, oh,
Speaker 2: it's an alien base or whatever their cover story is.
Speaker 2: So m.
Speaker 1: That would makes sense I mean that was the whole
Speaker 1: purpose of the space program to begin with, was the
Speaker 1: set up military bases on.
Speaker 2: Project Horizon, it was called, and it was done by
Speaker 2: the Navy. The Navy was in charge of NASA, and uh,
Speaker 2: they built it in the sixties. That's what I was
Speaker 2: told by an upper guy in NASA, that they built
Speaker 2: it in the nineteen sixties. It's been operational ever since.
Speaker 2: A lot of these UFOs that they see going over
Speaker 2: freshwater lakes and drawing up a bunch of water. I
Speaker 2: was told that that water's gets taken back to the
Speaker 2: Moon because they don't have any water up there. And
Speaker 2: you know, they probably you know, already drilled a hole
Speaker 2: through the surface of the Moon and gone down inside
Speaker 2: and see what's inside, because the Moon is actually I
Speaker 2: think a machine, just machine, just like David. I think.
Speaker 2: I think it's we know that when full moons come
Speaker 2: the crime rates go up, so it has this influence
Speaker 2: on us, and not not just crime, but women's menstrual
Speaker 2: cycles and a lot of other things. And so I
Speaker 2: think there was it's some kind of machine consciousness.
Speaker 1: Machine that wouldn't surprise me. We got some other stuff
Speaker 1: going on here. We got Pam Bondi was fired yesterday
Speaker 1: and this is from the Guardian. Is that which I
Speaker 1: don't believe that this is true. I think that this
Speaker 1: is a cover story and what they want you to
Speaker 1: believe is that Trump fired her over the Epsteam files.
Speaker 1: And I don't think that that's true. I think that
Speaker 1: that's an entire cover story here. But I want to
Speaker 1: get your thoughts on it before I give you my
Speaker 1: but Donald Trump has fired Pambondi, US Attorney General, dismissing
Speaker 1: a loyaltess appreciate the Justice Department, but failed to please
Speaker 1: President's fixated on prosecuting political enemies and frustrated with the
Speaker 1: politically explosive release of the Jeffrey Epstein files.
Speaker 2: Well, I know he definitely wants to go after his
Speaker 2: political enemies. I don't think it's about the Epstein files
Speaker 2: at all at all, and I think that it's something
Speaker 2: we probably never know about. But she said no to him,
Speaker 2: and you can't say no to Trump. I don't know
Speaker 2: what she said no to him on, but you just
Speaker 2: can't say no to Trump. If you say no to Trump,
Speaker 2: you're no longer loyal to him. So at this stage
Speaker 2: it doesn't leave it look like he's taking advice from anybody.
Speaker 2: It's like he's just got this path and he's going
Speaker 2: on it and it's going to be hell or high water.
Speaker 2: We lost two a WAC planes. Each one costs one
Speaker 2: hundred billion and a million dollars seven hundred million dollars
Speaker 2: each one. You can't do any surveillance from the air
Speaker 2: now in the Middle East because we got those two
Speaker 2: are surveillance planes and they got knocked out. We hit
Speaker 2: a bridge and Iran today that has no strategic value
Speaker 2: that I could think of, except just to harm the civilians.
Speaker 2: And I thought we were going to do that. Apparently
Speaker 2: that now the sability he's going to bomb to the
Speaker 2: stone Age. But wait a minute. You know those people,
Speaker 2: you know, they're just innocent people. They don't need to
Speaker 2: be bombed to the stone Age for what their leaders do.
Speaker 2: And you know, let me put it to you this way.
Speaker 2: In nineteen fifty three, Iran elected a guy named most
Speaker 2: of Deck. Most of Deck was a democratically elected guy. Yes,
Speaker 2: he left a center and he was he said, we're
Speaker 2: getting screwed bridge, but stealing all of our oil and
Speaker 2: he nationalized the oil fields. Well, he was overthrown a
Speaker 2: couple of months after that, they put in the shop Iran.
Speaker 2: He was a ruthless dude who ran that country like
Speaker 2: a police state. But he kept selling the oil to
Speaker 2: British Petroleum. But then at near the end of his
Speaker 2: reign he began complaining about British petroleum, and all of
Speaker 2: a sudden he was overthrown and he put in the Ayatola.
Speaker 2: And what we have now. And you may think that
Speaker 2: Iran is keeping their oil, but they're not. They're still
Speaker 2: dealing with British petroleum. You need experts to come in
Speaker 2: to take your oil, and British Petroleum are those experts.
Speaker 2: And so what we're seeing is this, you know, this
Speaker 2: eighty year long domination of Iran by Britain and Britain's companies,
Speaker 2: whether it be Lloyd's of London who insures the ships
Speaker 2: on the streets of our moves, or the oil fields.
Speaker 2: And so Iran is being forced to break these ancient bonds.
Speaker 2: And you know, it could be a good thing for
Speaker 2: Iraq and maybe they can now keep all the oil
Speaker 2: and not have to give it away to other people.
Speaker 2: Trump saying he's going to steal Iran's well, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think that's a morally a
Speaker 2: morally appropriate chance to take. I don't think you can
Speaker 2: go to another country and steal their oil. Just don't
Speaker 2: think it's proper. So, you know, we got to worry
Speaker 2: about painting ourselves as a villain here because we could
Speaker 2: come off as the villain and we don't want to
Speaker 2: do that.
Speaker 1: Well, I think what we've been the villain since Iraq
Speaker 1: and Afghanistan in two thousand and one, the entire Middle
Speaker 1: East has done nothing but hate us. Yeah, and what
Speaker 1: is the plan here do they? Does Trump really want
Speaker 1: to try and occupy Iran like we didn't in a
Speaker 1: stand in Iraq like that didn't work out.
Speaker 2: Rad has four times the population of Iraq, Okay, Rad has.
Speaker 2: It's not a desert, it's a mountain, ninety percent mountains.
Speaker 2: One of the only countries on Earth it's like ninety
Speaker 2: percent mountains. They could hide anything in those mountains, You
Speaker 2: can do anything in those mountains. If you have an
Speaker 2: army trying to go through those mountains, they are going
Speaker 2: to get wiped out. There's a reason that Persia stood
Speaker 2: there for five thousand years. It's almost impossible to invade.
Speaker 2: I think outside of Alexander the Great, no one's ever
Speaker 2: invaded Persia successfully. So I don't think so. I don't
Speaker 2: think so, and I think it's foolhardy to even think
Speaker 2: about it. And I hear I can't confirm this, but
Speaker 2: my sources tell me that thirty generals have refused to
Speaker 2: comply with sending troops over there, and twelve of those
Speaker 2: generals have been fired in the last three days, including
Speaker 2: a member of the Joint Chief of Staff. So there's
Speaker 2: a rebellion of the USS. Gerald Ford is limping back
Speaker 2: to Cyprus. Maybe so Servia, I think because of the
Speaker 2: sailors have destroyed the plumbing system because they don't want
Speaker 2: to fight, And so he's got a rebellion, you know,
Speaker 2: inside the military itself that doesn't want to fight, and
Speaker 2: you know, and he's going to lose his base if
Speaker 2: he's not careful. I think he may have already lost
Speaker 2: his base. Not sure what his plans are. I hope
Speaker 2: he's not what Alex Jones is saying. Alex Jones is
Speaker 2: saying that he's mentally impaired and that he's early signs
Speaker 2: of senility, and that's why he's like saying one day,
Speaker 2: well we just won the war and then the next
Speaker 2: day follow him to the stone. And I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't have any simility in my family, so I've
Speaker 2: never really dealt with senile people. But Alex Jones has.
Speaker 2: His grandfather apparently was extremely, you know, sceneile. I think
Speaker 2: his grandmother too, so he got to watch it firsthand.
Speaker 2: I can't tell you. I don't know what it looks like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's awfully interesting. It seems like there either has
Speaker 1: to be some kind of screwed up, weird freaking plan
Speaker 1: that he's got or the whole thing has just been
Speaker 1: one hundred percent compromise. I mean, he completely knocked a
Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson out of his circle and came out against
Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson. You got you know, Charlie Kirk has gone.
Speaker 1: All the people that really had his ear, and if
Speaker 1: that's true that he fired a lot of those military generals,
Speaker 1: all the people that had his ear are just are
Speaker 1: just gone. Anybody that had rational thinking and critical thinking
Speaker 1: and what the American people really want are no longer
Speaker 1: in the picture.
Speaker 2: Yes, at least we have Bobby Kennedy still, and I
Speaker 2: guess that's kind of it. He didn't fire Tulsi, but
Speaker 2: the fact that he was considering firing her was really worrying,
Speaker 2: you know. And then you know, I mean the guy
Speaker 2: replaced the what's her name, Pam Bondie, he's he's even
Speaker 2: worse than she is. I mean, he's terrible. So I
Speaker 2: don't know, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was that was his lawyer, right, what was
Speaker 1: his name, Blanche?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Todd Blanche. Yeah. And so it's just it's almost
Speaker 2: like a switch got pulled at some point where he
Speaker 2: just decided that, you don't know, I hope Alex Jones's
Speaker 2: theory is not right. I really do. But I guess
Speaker 2: I've never really dealt with seeing now people I don't know,
Speaker 2: and his behavior is odd. I will say that his
Speaker 2: behavior is very odd. And he looks exhausted, his voice
Speaker 2: is exhausted, and you know, how long will it take
Speaker 2: before he realizes that maybe going into this war like
Speaker 2: he went into it is a serious mistake. I mean,
Speaker 2: if you're trying to get negotiations going with somebody else,
Speaker 2: you don't kill the people you're negotiating with. Me, that's
Speaker 2: not going to help your cause. So I don't know,
Speaker 2: it's like.
Speaker 1: It's just so weird that anybody can support, you know,
Speaker 1: attacking I Ran unprovoked. Right, That was the whole thing
Speaker 1: with Russia and Ukraine. But everybody was up in arms
Speaker 1: about in the beginning of like when did us start
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one around that area where they were like
Speaker 1: Russia just invaded Ukraine unprovoked and everyone was condemning it, right,
Speaker 1: funny think it's been going on for four years now,
Speaker 1: so it had to have been twenty twenty two. But
Speaker 1: that was the whole thing with Russia and Ukraine was like,
Speaker 1: you know, why is Russia doing this? We don't understand
Speaker 1: why they're doing this. They just came in unprovoked. Ukraine
Speaker 1: didn't attack Russia. And then so I don't understand how
Speaker 1: people can be for this war when we have essentially
Speaker 1: done the same thing to I Ran that Russia did
Speaker 1: to Ukraine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny because when the war broke out now
Speaker 2: but four weeks Agot off twenty eighth, well more than
Speaker 2: four weeks ago.
Speaker 3: The pro war crowd was incredibly bellicos And if you
Speaker 3: just said, well, can you tell me the reason, what
Speaker 3: the reason is that we're doing this innocent question?
Speaker 2: You just want another reason? Why are we doing this?
Speaker 2: There's like you have effort, you trader, You're you know,
Speaker 2: just all these names being called the other win And
Speaker 2: I just asked a simple question. I just wanted to answer.
Speaker 2: I didn't want to get called names. And it was
Speaker 2: everywhere at first. Now it's not that way anymore. Now
Speaker 2: it's starting to back off. They're not as bellicos. They're
Speaker 2: not screaming and yelling anymore, because you know, there's just
Speaker 2: this one crowd in America that just loves war and
Speaker 2: they cheer it on and cheer it on them. Pretty
Speaker 2: soon when we start not winning, because we don't win wars,
Speaker 2: then they finally have to quiet down because they see
Speaker 2: that what they were cheering on is not what they thought.
Speaker 2: But they keep getting fooled over and over again. So
Speaker 2: what's the same crowd and cheered on the warrior rock
Speaker 2: in Afghanistan and verally vocal like fifteen percent of America,
Speaker 2: and they are when they want war, man, they'll do
Speaker 2: anything they can to get it. And you know, neocons
Speaker 2: and Trump ran against neogons. Those are the ones that
Speaker 2: he hated, and now he's surrounded by him. Mark Levin's
Speaker 2: the neocon Ben Shapiro's a neocon. That that woman that
Speaker 2: gives them all the money. The husband was owned a
Speaker 2: casino in Vegas. He's a neocon. She's a neocon. Everybody's
Speaker 2: frigging neocon now, and Trump seems to be okay now
Speaker 2: be a neocon. So you know, all the promises of
Speaker 2: not getting US involved in any more foreign wars are gone,
Speaker 2: and now he's stuck in a war that frankly, if
Speaker 2: you study the geography of where he's at right now,
Speaker 2: you know there's no way out. There's no way out.
Speaker 2: We would all he can really do is just jump
Speaker 2: all the ships and he can take everybody home. But
Speaker 2: if he does that then Israel will be destroyed. So
Speaker 2: you know, what's he going to do. I don't know
Speaker 2: what he's going to do because there's no way out.
Speaker 2: There's strategically no way out except except escalate, and that
Speaker 2: would be a freaking disaster. He was met. Yahoo told
Speaker 2: him that the Iran regime would capitulate within a week
Speaker 2: of starting a campaign. No capitulation, nothing. And you know
Speaker 2: what happens is is that Israel sends in their most
Speaker 2: agents to create trouble in Iran. The mostat agents create
Speaker 2: a whole bunch of trouble. And then they come back
Speaker 2: with reports of everybody's really unhappy with the regime and everything,
Speaker 2: believing their own most agents who just want more, you know, business,
Speaker 2: so they're going to lie. And and so then you
Speaker 2: know who gets told by most of the regime is
Speaker 2: about to laugh. He tells Trump that Trump takes debate drops,
Speaker 2: the Bob waits for the regime to collapse. It doesn't drop.
Speaker 2: Then eventually he either odd purpose or accidentally kills one
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy schoolgirls who are all the children of
Speaker 2: the Revolutionary Guard, the people that he's fighting. And then
Speaker 2: when all the parents came into the school to get
Speaker 2: the bodies of their dead daughters, we hit them again.
Speaker 2: You know, that's kind of war crime. You know, I
Speaker 2: don't know, I'm not cool with it at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really unbelievable what we're doing right now. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's the way that we've been doing it since it's
Speaker 1: been i mean, look at Saddam Hussein. They look what
Speaker 1: we did to Saddam Hussin. You know, it seems like
Speaker 1: that every single time. Okay, So the whole reason that
Speaker 1: the United States was free was because the United States
Speaker 1: created its own currency. We had our own currency. So
Speaker 1: then the Bank of England needed to come in and
Speaker 1: take over the currency, so they created the Federal Reserve.
Speaker 1: Now I'm doing a very whitewashed version of this just quickly.
Speaker 1: So then whenever we got on the Federal Reserve, that
Speaker 1: means that we were part of the Bank of England.
Speaker 1: Right now, that was the whole thing. That why the
Speaker 1: United States was so popular is because we had our
Speaker 1: we created our own money source. Now, when any country
Speaker 1: is starting to do that, When then any country wants
Speaker 1: to try and break away from the US dollar being
Speaker 1: the federally backed reserve currency and they want to get
Speaker 1: off that and create their own currency, we go in
Speaker 1: and we bomb them. We go to war with them.
Speaker 2: The first thing we did when we invaded, we went
Speaker 2: to the banks and took them over. The first thing
Speaker 2: we did. We didn't go to the oil fields, it
Speaker 2: didn't go anywhere else. We went. We established the new
Speaker 2: banking system in Iraq. And Iran has free of the
Speaker 2: banking system, as are every one of our enemies. And
Speaker 2: so each one must be stomped into the ground, you know,
Speaker 2: And we can't shake our own banking system. No matter
Speaker 2: what we did, we can't shake it. So yeah, and
Speaker 2: so the war really is against the British financial system
Speaker 2: that got established and is spreading its tendrils out all
Speaker 2: over the world. And we are, unfortunately the duped army
Speaker 2: for that banking system. And we die and they get
Speaker 2: rich and they control the world. They control all the
Speaker 2: assets and everything. And you know, there's going to be
Speaker 2: a this when the strains of horror mouz are going
Speaker 2: to be closed here. There's going to be a fertilizer crisis.
Speaker 2: There's going to be oil crisis. And it's still early spring.
Speaker 2: I highly suggest if you can grow your own food
Speaker 2: in someplace, you know, I suggest you start taking care
Speaker 2: of your family, because I think it's going to get
Speaker 2: really nasty here. And it's almost as if they don't
Speaker 2: care about us anymore. I thought that Trump did care
Speaker 2: about us. We're not sure anymore.
Speaker 1: And guess what Germany did in nineteen twenty four. Okay,
Speaker 1: Germany created their own currency. They had their own currency
Speaker 1: up until the end of the World War two in nineteen.
Speaker 2: Fine, yeah, well that was the first thing Hitler did,
Speaker 2: was he he nationalized the banks and got him out
Speaker 2: of private hands, and yeah, that's what you have to do.
Speaker 2: But I mean, you know, Kennedy was going to do that,
Speaker 2: and uh, you know a lot of a lot of
Speaker 2: presidents tried to get us out from under it. But
Speaker 2: you just can't get out from under it no matter
Speaker 2: what we do.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I'm gonna give you this article here by
Speaker 1: that tells you the real, well the supposedly real reason
Speaker 1: Pam Bondi was fired. And I think this is really interesting.
Speaker 1: So he's firing may not have had anything to do
Speaker 1: with the Epstein files. Donald Trump reportedly felt Bondie was
Speaker 1: going to easy on his perceived enemies, which I think
Speaker 1: is another cover story. Pam Bondi is out of the
Speaker 1: Trump administration, and some insiders believe the underlying and reason
Speaker 1: is due to an old connection to California Representative Eric Swaldwell. Okay,
Speaker 1: Donald Trump fired Bondi Thursday, thrust in her out of
Speaker 1: government altogether and the private sector. Her dismissal was repeatedly
Speaker 1: supposedly to occur on Friday, but was rushed due to
Speaker 1: rampant speculation about her replacement and consume Washington Wednesday night.
Speaker 1: An unidentified senior administrative source that spoke with The Daily
Speaker 1: Mail Thursday, claimed that Bondi begged Trump to reconsider okay
Speaker 1: blah blah, blah, blah blah. It was widely believed that
Speaker 1: one of Trump's chief complaints with Bondi was her handling
Speaker 1: of the Epstein files, which remains one of the president's
Speaker 1: most enduring scandals, but the source that spoke with The
Speaker 1: Mail pointed in a different direction, positing that the sudden
Speaker 1: dismissal was in no small part because of Trump believed
Speaker 1: Bondi had previously tipped off Swadwell over the FBI's efforts
Speaker 1: to publicize decades old files related to the lawmaker's formal
Speaker 1: relationship with suspected Chinese spy Christine Frame. So this would
Speaker 1: have been because Trump was upset and he thought that
Speaker 1: he tipped off this governor that's getting ready to run
Speaker 1: for California during during an FBI investigation into him and
Speaker 1: his wife.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe that. I believe that they're wrong the
Speaker 2: same gang. So it doesn't make sense to me, Although
Speaker 2: I would not want to be friends with that creep,
Speaker 2: that's for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's several reasons. I just thought that
Speaker 1: that one was really interesting. Candice actually talked about this yesterday,
Speaker 1: but I found the article and I thought, I was,
Speaker 1: you know, throw it up there, because that's the way
Speaker 1: that they would want to frame it right and try
Speaker 1: and get the public support back on Trump. Is that
Speaker 1: Trump got rid of due to her fumbling the Epstein files, Well,
Speaker 1: why didn't you also get rid of cash matel too
Speaker 1: trying to got rid of Cashpitel as well.
Speaker 2: Oh, I would have really liked that one. I would
Speaker 2: be cheering to the top of the ceiling if Cash
Speaker 2: Hotel will go. I can't stand that guy. He's fumbled
Speaker 2: the Charlie Kirk investigation and he acts like he's gonna
Speaker 2: take it over and everything. Now he's telling everybody, oh, well,
Speaker 2: we're gonna let the authorities in Utah handle all this.
Speaker 2: It's like, come on, ridiculous. Supposedly his friend, he doesn't
Speaker 2: want to investigate it.
Speaker 1: Come on, Erica Kirk is putting more energy into investigating
Speaker 1: and going after Drewski the comedian. Then then she is
Speaker 1: looking into who killed Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 2: So she's already forgiven him. They're calling Tyler Robinson even
Speaker 2: with the with the bullet that doesn't match rifle. They're
Speaker 2: still saying he's guilty. So I got other evidence to say,
Speaker 2: why are you guys cheerleading stopping the investigation. That's what
Speaker 2: you're doing. And you know it's just like when cash
Speaker 2: Betel announced, you know, four hours after the murder that
Speaker 2: they caught the guy. Right, Well, now you just made
Speaker 2: all the evidentiary trails go cold. Why would you do that?
Speaker 2: Even if you caught the guy, you'd still be looking.
Speaker 2: You still want to do follow up. You wouldn't announce it,
Speaker 2: not until you were sure that you'd followed every lead
Speaker 2: and it turned out it wasn't the right guy. So
Speaker 2: you know, it's I'll tell you what, It's one of
Speaker 2: two things. Either tp USA did a coup ata on
Speaker 2: Charlie take over the organization because it was making one
Speaker 2: hundred million dollars a year, very very likely. But to me,
Speaker 2: when I look at these guys at Blake Neff and
Speaker 2: those other guys that are on the radio all the time,
Speaker 2: I just don't see it. These don't look like they
Speaker 2: look like they have the gusts that it's like murder.
Speaker 2: But if they have the military and intelligence community behind
Speaker 2: him in this coup d'eta, because Charlie was changing his mind,
Speaker 2: then that could be what's going on here. But I
Speaker 2: also cannot discount that all of the high weirdness around
Speaker 2: the Charlie Kirk murder is because he faked it. And
Speaker 2: I don't have any evidence except for, you know, just
Speaker 2: the high weirdness around it. Why are people unnecessarily lying,
Speaker 2: Why are people acting so strange? Why is that Mikey
Speaker 2: guy just walking away from Charlie after he gets caught
Speaker 2: talking on his phone going on here? And then also
Speaker 2: in the video of the assassination, the blood that does
Speaker 2: come out, it's thick and blobby and frankly, it looks
Speaker 2: like corn syrup, which is how you make movie blood.
Speaker 2: You just tye corn syrupt red. So that was my
Speaker 2: first clues when I saw that bloodspord. I knew that
Speaker 2: a neck one would shoot out and be thin blood
Speaker 2: because your blood thins as it goes down into the
Speaker 2: neck through all the arterial canals, and and it's just
Speaker 2: like a broughton. That was it. It was just as
Speaker 2: one little block that was it. And the other thing
Speaker 2: is a simple thing. But somebody put a mat on
Speaker 2: the floor right belowle where Charlie was a three inch mat,
Speaker 2: you know, like a like a mat for a chase
Speaker 2: lounge or something, and h that's what Charlie fell on.
Speaker 2: That was kind of convenient. But other than that, you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know what you mean. If I do not
Speaker 2: believe that Tyler Robinson fired in rifle that day. I
Speaker 2: don't believe y'all allowed a thirty yacht six. Is you're
Speaker 2: standing on the roof firing a thirty yacht six, everybody's
Speaker 2: going to look back at it, and they're going to
Speaker 2: duck because they're gonna the sound is going to be
Speaker 2: so loud, so you can't really hear it either. In
Speaker 2: all the recordings, you can't really hear this loud, striking sound.
Speaker 2: It sounds more like a twenty two frankly to me,
Speaker 2: a much smaller caliber weapon. But also, but people don't realize,
Speaker 2: is that hitman professional hitman. They prefer twenty two. That's
Speaker 2: what they prefer for a variety of different reasons. But
Speaker 2: you know, that's what that's the gun they prefer. So
Speaker 2: it's not out of bounds that it was a twenty two.
Speaker 2: But where they come from, exploding Mike could be because
Speaker 2: we have the shirt movement problem. Now. I like how
Speaker 2: I think it's Candae, it's covering the necklace, or Baron Coleman.
Speaker 2: Who's Baron Coleman. He's covering the necklace and the weird
Speaker 2: concern that everybody has for this necklace. Right, the first
Speaker 2: thing that Erica asks is versus necklace. And then when
Speaker 2: the security guy goes back to the car that took
Speaker 2: Charlie to the hospital, there the necklace is, you know,
Speaker 2: draped gracefully over a bag and it's broken, and so
Speaker 2: how did it break? The shot break it? And then
Speaker 2: you know, Eric is like celebrating that she's got the
Speaker 2: necklace and she's like waving it around and stuff. You're like,
Speaker 2: why is everybody so concerned about this necklace? What does
Speaker 2: it mean? And so it's just really just another turn
Speaker 2: of weird events that are going on in the case.
Speaker 2: Probably the weirdest true crime case that I've looked at.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is really I've looked at a lot
Speaker 2: of cases of a huge troop crime fan and I
Speaker 2: can tell you what, man, this is the weirdest case
Speaker 2: of all. And it has so many loose ends, so
Speaker 2: many strange lies that are just so unnecessary that you
Speaker 2: really got to wonder what in the world is going on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the thing right now is that the
Speaker 1: ATF can't match the bullet to the gun, and analysis
Speaker 1: from the Federal Bureau of Investigation alcoholic to background firearms explosive.
Speaker 1: ATF could not conclusively connect the bullet fragment recovered during
Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk's autopsy to the rifle found near the scene.
Speaker 1: So the FBI is now running additional tests. To lawyers
Speaker 1: for kirk associated murder said in recent court filings, Now,
Speaker 1: what's weird is that we were told in the beginning
Speaker 1: that there was no bullet. No bullet was found, the
Speaker 1: bullet had fragmented, and that's when Erica Kirk said that
Speaker 1: he had a steel neck. He had a superman neck
Speaker 1: that prevented the bullet from going through the backside, right,
Speaker 1: because cannics has seen the footage. That's whenever they kind
Speaker 1: of started panicking. Whenever she said that there was no
Speaker 1: blood because there was no exit wound, right, that's whenever
Speaker 1: they made up the story that Charlie had a superman neck.
Speaker 1: But then there was other reports from the twentieth that
Speaker 1: came out that said that there was a bullet that
Speaker 1: was found lodged in his neck. So these two stories
Speaker 1: do not compute. So which was it? Was it a fragment,
Speaker 1: did they not find a bullet? Did they find a bullet?
Speaker 1: Because this really matters, This really makes the biggest difference
Speaker 1: of all because if it was only a fragment of
Speaker 1: a bullet bhull is somehow exploded, that means that there
Speaker 1: was a fragible bullet, And a fragible bullet cannot be
Speaker 1: fired from one hundred and fifty yards expected to hit
Speaker 1: its target from a rifle. You just don't do that.
Speaker 1: Anybody that knows anything about guns and fragible bullets will
Speaker 1: tell you that you do not. One, you don't shoot
Speaker 1: a fragible bullet out of a rifle. Two, you definitely
Speaker 1: don't shoot a fragible bullet out of a rifle expecting
Speaker 1: to hit a target out one hundred and fifty yards
Speaker 1: away from the target. You just don't. You're not going
Speaker 1: to hit the target, okay, because win speed, the bullet
Speaker 1: is significantly weighs less. It's not going to hit the
Speaker 1: target that you're aiming for from a fragible bullet. So
Speaker 1: then that means that it had to have been a
Speaker 1: close up hit from like what you were saying with
Speaker 1: a twenty two that was really close to Charlie, that
Speaker 1: would be the only way that you would be able
Speaker 1: to put a fragible bullet. But then that then changes
Speaker 1: if they did find an actual bullet that was lodged
Speaker 1: in his neck. If they found a real bullet, and
Speaker 1: then the bullet still didn't match the gun that was
Speaker 1: found in the woods by the FBI. It's just so
Speaker 1: convoluted and doesn't make it. Either way you go with it,
Speaker 1: it still doesn't make any sense, and it's still not
Speaker 1: implicating of that Tyler Robinson was the one that did this.
Speaker 2: And the other thing is is where's the rest of
Speaker 2: the bullet? If you found part of the bullet and
Speaker 2: there's no exit wound, then the rest of the bullet
Speaker 2: must still be there somewhere. Why can't you go get
Speaker 2: the whole bullet and re piece it together and then
Speaker 2: you got something come out of a bullet, And then
Speaker 2: maybe they did that, But either way, it doesn't match,
Speaker 2: so it doesn't matter. Again, now I'm going to predict
Speaker 2: that the FBI is going to do their own analysis
Speaker 2: and it'll magically match. So that's still not going to
Speaker 2: help the prosecution though, because now you've got two separate
Speaker 2: law enforcement agencies at odds with each other, and so
Speaker 2: they'll have to take it to a third agency to
Speaker 2: get another analysis. So yeah, you know, it's like, I
Speaker 2: don't know, Uh, I hope that Tyler Robinson doesn't get
Speaker 2: railroaded in this because it, sir, looks like that's what
Speaker 2: they're doing. Because there was no videotape of him shooting,
Speaker 2: the videotape of him coming off the roof. It could
Speaker 2: be anybody. He disassembled the gun when he got to
Speaker 2: the chicken coop, but he left the screwdriver that he
Speaker 2: was using to disassemble the gun up on the roof.
Speaker 2: Who has his DNA on it? And so how did you?
Speaker 2: How did you? How did you get the rifle apart?
Speaker 2: It's like once the bomb dogs go sniff the place,
Speaker 2: don't find anything, which you would definitely find if a
Speaker 2: rifle had done recently fired, the bomb dogs would find it,
Speaker 2: and then the FBI come by an hour later, uh,
Speaker 2: and then just magically find it without a bout. Bob,
Speaker 2: there's walk right or to the chicken group. There it is.
Speaker 2: So you know, there's something stinky, so steaky about all
Speaker 2: of this, and that it actually kind of scares me.
Speaker 2: I gotta be honest with you, because either it's the
Speaker 2: most incredibly large conspiracy or it's a series of mistakes,
Speaker 2: which it could be. In this world, it could be
Speaker 2: a series of really bad mistakes. But the problem with
Speaker 2: it all is that the more you look at it,
Speaker 2: the more suspicious at all gets. It doesn't. The suspicion
Speaker 2: doesn't go away. It increases with every time you glance it,
Speaker 2: with every piece of evidence that you hear, with every
Speaker 2: conversation that you hear, you realize that that this thing
Speaker 2: is just so weird. And the people that are cheering
Speaker 2: on the Tddler Robinson scenario are Charlie's closest friends. Supposedly.
Speaker 2: That doesn't make any sense because if my friend, if
Speaker 2: you got shot and killed, I am definitely looking into it, okay,
Speaker 2: and nobody's going to stop me, all right. If my
Speaker 2: wife got killed, I definitely am not forgiving the guy
Speaker 2: who killed her, all right. Never. In fact, I'll lay
Speaker 2: and wait for that creep. That's what I would do.
Speaker 2: So I don't none of it makes any kind of
Speaker 2: human sense. It's almost like they're hybrids that don't understand
Speaker 2: how humans work, and so they're play acting a scenario
Speaker 2: and all the people that are real are going that's
Speaker 2: not how humans work. What's going on here started with Erica.
Speaker 1: Honestly, Yeah, it seems like that the only reason that
Speaker 1: you would do any of this stuff is because you
Speaker 1: have something to hide. And that's the whole reason why
Speaker 1: they don't replace Charlie Kirk with another person that is
Speaker 1: going to go out there and start debating all these
Speaker 1: college students, because they cannot answer the questions that these
Speaker 1: college students would have about Charlie. You know that you
Speaker 1: would get bombarded by people that would be asking NonStop
Speaker 1: questions about the investigation around Charlie Kirk's murder.
Speaker 2: That's the whole.
Speaker 1: Reason that they don't do it, because they have a
Speaker 1: bunch of things to hide. And I really do believe
Speaker 1: people can make fun of the Fort Watchuka stuff all
Speaker 1: that they want. They can make fun of Canvas's whistleblower
Speaker 1: person that said that he saw Erica Kirk the day
Speaker 1: before the assassination, and the other people that were involved
Speaker 1: on Charlie Kirk's team. I don't even know if it
Speaker 1: was that that they got upset about. It was the
Speaker 1: fact that they even brought up Fort Watchuka because Fort
Speaker 1: WATCHUKA is a top secret military base. It is the
Speaker 1: people that are trained there are technically never even supposed
Speaker 1: to have been there. That's how top secret this facility
Speaker 1: is is that it's hard to find proof even if
Speaker 1: you were stationed there, that you were ever even stationed there.
Speaker 1: That's how important this this military base is, Fort Watchuka.
Speaker 1: So I think that, I mean, the thing with Candic's
Speaker 1: was to play. I mean, it could be true, it
Speaker 1: could not be true, but I think that the thing
Speaker 1: that they were the most worried about was people figuring
Speaker 1: out what Fort Watchuka.
Speaker 2: Okay, here's what I heard. I heard. First off, Mitch
Speaker 2: Snow and Joe Kent live in the same area in
Speaker 2: Washington State, and they're both ex military, Okay, And I
Speaker 2: heard that Joe Kent told Mitch Snow to go there,
Speaker 2: and that Trump found out about it and fired. Okay,
Speaker 2: That's what I heard. That there was something going on
Speaker 2: that they were hiding from Joe Kent and he wanted
Speaker 2: to know what it was. And his friend ha already
Speaker 2: had connections there because he had gotten he was served
Speaker 2: in the Green Berets there and for what Uka. I
Speaker 2: think Joe Kent may have told him to go down
Speaker 2: there and look for your papers and see what you
Speaker 2: see going on down there, And so he was not
Speaker 2: just innocent guy like he's portraying himself. He went in
Speaker 2: there as an intel advisor and he saw the top
Speaker 2: this top meeting going on, which is probably what Joe
Speaker 2: Kent got word of. And so I think a lot
Speaker 2: more going on than we think. Remember the shows that
Speaker 2: we did about the intelligence wars, Well, I think this
Speaker 2: is what's going on here. I think we're watching an
Speaker 2: intelligent war and it's between military intelligence and the CIA,
Speaker 2: and I think that I think that I'm not sure
Speaker 2: why the military intelligence would want to get rid of
Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk, except for maybe they knew that the Iran
Speaker 2: war was coming. They didn't want a guy who was
Speaker 2: against the Iran or leading all the kids that they're
Speaker 2: going to have to draft, right, And so I think
Speaker 2: that there's a connection there too. I think the whole
Speaker 2: thing is connected. I know the Kansas is saying that
Speaker 2: Charlie and Erica were fighting, and the speculation is, of
Speaker 2: course that she's like a you know, a plant, and
Speaker 2: she was angry at Charlie for his changing stance on
Speaker 2: a certain country in the Middle East, and Charlie really
Speaker 2: was changing, and he he really was. It was a
Speaker 2: religious change. That's why they couldn't do anything about it.
Speaker 2: He realized, you know, that certain parts of the New
Speaker 2: Testament are talking about the same exact thing that he
Speaker 2: was starting to go against. And you know, then he realized,
Speaker 2: of course that October seventh could doesn't make any sense
Speaker 2: and that they must have stood down, which they did.
Speaker 2: And so, you know, are we dealing with people this ruthless?
Speaker 2: I think we are. And I think that the release
Speaker 2: of the Epstein files, the bad release that they did,
Speaker 2: that'll probably be it. It was kind of exposedly how
Speaker 2: nasty these people are. I think they want us to
Speaker 2: think that they're nasty. I think they want us to
Speaker 2: know how evil they really are, so that we were like,
Speaker 2: you know, put off by it and want to run away,
Speaker 2: you know, from it because it's so horrible, horrible, and
Speaker 2: or maybe just evil has just unleashed itself on through
Speaker 2: the world. You know. They they used to have things
Speaker 2: ways to get rid of demons. Bells were one of
Speaker 2: the ways that they got rid of demons. Demons hate bells,
Speaker 2: and we've kind of taken down all the apparatuses that
Speaker 2: we had that were kind of ways to get rid
Speaker 2: of demons. And I think we got demonic energy running
Speaker 2: loose on the planet, and I think you can It's contagious,
Speaker 2: so you can catch it if you're not careful.
Speaker 1: You shared something with me at the beginning of the
Speaker 1: show before we came on, from the Book of Revelation.
Speaker 1: I thought, this is so interesting. This is a Revelation thirteen.
Speaker 1: The anti Christ, the Beast from the Sea, suffers a
Speaker 1: seemingly fatal head wound, but is miraculously healed, mimicking Christ's
Speaker 1: resurrection to gain global worship, This event, powered by Satan,
Speaker 1: secures his role as a world dictator for forty two
Speaker 1: months three point five years before he is ultimately defeated
Speaker 1: by Jesus. Who do we know that this happened to?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then he's surrounded by evangelical Christians who believe
Speaker 2: that we're in the end times? All right? So do
Speaker 2: they can't can't they read this part of Revelation? I mean,
Speaker 2: is there anybody else in the world as a leader
Speaker 2: that's been wounded in the head and miraculously survived. I mean,
Speaker 2: they think that we're in the end Times. I've seen
Speaker 2: his spiritual advisor, PAULA White, completely lunatic, telling Trump that
Speaker 2: he was just like Jesus, that he was wounded and
Speaker 2: he rose from the dead and he's very messiah like.
Speaker 2: And Trump's said, going, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, sure right,
Speaker 2: you know, like he's totally agreeing with it. So is
Speaker 2: he being manipulated? He could be, but he's certainly acting
Speaker 2: like the Antichrist.
Speaker 1: I thought that was wild when you brought that up.
Speaker 1: I was like, Old, the.
Speaker 2: Anti Christ is probably Ai. That's Rudolph Sneider would say that.
Speaker 2: He would say that Ai is technology. Araman is this
Speaker 2: technological demon that will get loose on the Earth starting
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty. That's when he predicted one hundred years
Speaker 2: ago that Araman would return to the Earth and start
Speaker 2: taking over. And it certainly feels like some dark evil
Speaker 2: force entered into our scene around twenty twenty and has
Speaker 2: been taking over ever since.
Speaker 1: Yep, Well, we'll see where all this stuff goes. Hopefully,
Speaker 1: hopefully we just get out of Iran and you know,
Speaker 1: whatever happens.
Speaker 2: Is turning round, just turn the boats around and run.
Speaker 2: Just get out of there, get out of there, Get
Speaker 2: out of there. If it is Israel and Iran destroy
Speaker 2: each other, then that's the way it goes. It's none
Speaker 2: of our business. They hate each other, and they hate
Speaker 2: each other. We should never have gotten involved.
Speaker 1: I agree absolutely, But Jay, thanks so much for coming on.
Speaker 1: Really appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: Can you let people know where to find you online?
Speaker 2: Yeah, my reality check shows on YouTube. Just type in
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