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<v Speaker 1>Talk station, a thirty KCD talk station. Happy Friday Eve

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<v Speaker 1>made always that much happier because at this point we

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<v Speaker 1>get to talk. I heard media aviation expert Jay Ratliff,

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<v Speaker 1>who joins a program every Thursday at this time. Jay Ratlift,

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<v Speaker 1>my friend, welcome back to the morning show. It's always

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<v Speaker 1>a pleasure having you on.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, Happy Friday Eve. It's a pleasure to be here. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>And I read your posts from a few days ago

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<v Speaker 1>on the Morning Show, I believe it was yesterday, and

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<v Speaker 1>what a beautiful post it was, and you recounted your

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<v Speaker 1>life having lived at the travel lodge over the Dayton

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<v Speaker 1>International Airport for what ten years while you were honing

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<v Speaker 1>your skills as a trader, perfecting your trade strategy, which

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<v Speaker 1>is what you do for a living now. And you

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<v Speaker 1>have all these students who learn how to trade stocks

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<v Speaker 1>based upon your strategy, and you've been wildly successful. But

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<v Speaker 1>it came as a consequence of hard work. And I

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<v Speaker 1>used your post as a springboard to point that out. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you struggled, you suffered, you had your bad days, but

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<v Speaker 1>you worked your butt off and you transformed your life

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<v Speaker 1>from living in a at a travel lodge to well

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<v Speaker 1>a wildly successful, beautiful environment you're living in now. I

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<v Speaker 1>love the pictures you send from your place down in

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<v Speaker 1>at the Southern Command. But it was the point was

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<v Speaker 1>hard work paid off, and that was the point of

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<v Speaker 1>your post.

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<v Speaker 2>And it could have been hard work may not have

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<v Speaker 2>paid off. But you know when you when you recognize

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<v Speaker 2>as idea, you have one life to live. And I've

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<v Speaker 2>lost so many of my friends at such an early age.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a further reminder that, look, you're here for one shot.

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<v Speaker 2>Make the most of it. And when I see people

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<v Speaker 2>that have dreams that really could contribute to our world

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<v Speaker 2>and they back off because either they don't want it

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<v Speaker 2>bad enough or they listen to other people who say

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<v Speaker 2>it can't be done. I'm thinking a lot of the

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<v Speaker 2>problems if you listened to them all one to a bazillion,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of those problems can be solved if people

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<v Speaker 2>would follow their dreams. And you know, if it's if

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<v Speaker 2>it's if it's somebody that creates a Microsoft Bill Gates,

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<v Speaker 2>if it's somebody that creates a vaccine, if it's somebody

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<v Speaker 2>that serves as a missionary and app whatever it is,

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<v Speaker 2>if we could contribute what we're passionate about. My I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I watch people drive to work, Brian, and you do

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<v Speaker 2>all the time, the frowns going, the stiles coming back.

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<v Speaker 2>They live for that precious couple days off and then

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<v Speaker 2>live for retirement where you what average retirement you seven years,

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<v Speaker 2>You're dead. It just yeah. So I choose to take

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<v Speaker 2>a slightly different outlook on things and appreciate every day

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<v Speaker 2>that I've been given, and you know, I'm just glad

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<v Speaker 2>I was given today. And yeah, my students continue to

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<v Speaker 2>do well, and I'm very proud of them, and I

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<v Speaker 2>try to encourage them to give back as well, because

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<v Speaker 2>if you're going to start generating a lot of money,

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<v Speaker 2>that's okay, but don't lose sight of the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>you know you can be a blessing to other people

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<v Speaker 2>and do it whatever it is that you are passionate about.

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<v Speaker 2>Use what you've been given to try to affect the

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<v Speaker 2>lives positively of other people.

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<v Speaker 1>And that will bring you, oh Dari use the word joy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, real joy. And you don't sit around complaining or

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<v Speaker 2>have such hatred for a political opponent that it defines

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<v Speaker 2>your existence. And I've told so many of my friends

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<v Speaker 2>that are so anti Trump, I'm like, I get it,

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<v Speaker 2>but don't allow him to control that man controls eighty

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<v Speaker 2>percent of your life, and it's just your blood pressure

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<v Speaker 2>goes up. There's no way you should ever allow something

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<v Speaker 2>like that to happen. But when you when your life

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<v Speaker 2>is defined by hate or by you know, being that miserable,

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<v Speaker 2>I just I don't get it because I'm thinking, there's

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<v Speaker 2>such a beautiful alternative to get away from that and

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<v Speaker 2>turn to what you do. And I love my sister,

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<v Speaker 2>but my sister is kind of along the line of

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<v Speaker 2>you know, she hates Trump. She anytime something comes up,

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<v Speaker 2>I've got to hear about it, and I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 2>get it, I get it, I get it. And if

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<v Speaker 2>you try to point something out on the other side,

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<v Speaker 2>then it becomes name calling. And you never can have

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<v Speaker 2>a conversation on facts because that's where it kind of

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<v Speaker 2>goes out the window. And that's why when I heard

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<v Speaker 2>Harris's speech here recently about all the economic points without

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<v Speaker 2>any specifics. A, it sounded if you read the transcript

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<v Speaker 2>like it was a Republican and B you look at

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<v Speaker 2>the specifics, which she's not going to give until after

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<v Speaker 2>she's elected. And it's that just like every other politician,

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<v Speaker 2>sadly sometimes from both sides of the aisle. They're just

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<v Speaker 2>throwing out sand sound bites, hoping that this dry by

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<v Speaker 2>generation of social media buys the headlines and votes for her.

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<v Speaker 1>Amen. That's why I like talking to you, Jay Ratliffe.

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<v Speaker 1>You're uplifting. You got a great story, a great message.

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<v Speaker 1>You're hopeful, you're proud of what you got. You're happily

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<v Speaker 1>contently married to a beautiful woman who is your better half,

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<v Speaker 1>all things right, and you like to point that out

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<v Speaker 1>and you try to remind yourself of that every single day.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's beautiful things going on.

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<v Speaker 2>So get the motel room key from the travel lodge.

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<v Speaker 2>I have it with me everywhere I go, so I

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<v Speaker 2>refuse to forget where I came from. Brother.

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<v Speaker 1>Good for you. I appreciate your message. I just had

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<v Speaker 1>to bring that up. We'll dive into aviation issues coming

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<v Speaker 1>up next. Has some funny stories to go over with. Jay.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight thirty five. You have KCD talk station matches for

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<v Speaker 1>an accident and you're the New Richmond exit on west

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<v Speaker 1>to seventy five no delay. Southbound seventy one slows from

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<v Speaker 1>Fields Dirtle Off and onto Red Bank. Chuck ingramon fifty

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<v Speaker 1>five KRC.

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<v Speaker 2>The talk station, stupid mouth, shut.

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<v Speaker 1>Joy a forty five KRCY talks station, and the man

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<v Speaker 1>the meth. The legend is I heard media aviation expert

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<v Speaker 1>Jay Rattle if it doesn't mind a curveball every once

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<v Speaker 1>in a while. Transportation and Security Mission has this three

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<v Speaker 1>to one rule that's in place, and Jay, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>you know about this, limiting the amount of liquid you

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<v Speaker 1>can bring onto a plane to three point four ounces.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw this Swall Street Journal article by Jacob Passey

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<v Speaker 1>which pointed out that they're bringing out CT scanners and

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<v Speaker 1>using the CT scanners that allows them to determine whether

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<v Speaker 1>any given liquid is a danger or not. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you have shampoo in a bottle and it's more than

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<v Speaker 1>three point four ounces, the machine would say, not a problem,

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead. It's not explosive. So that's fine. But the

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<v Speaker 1>efficiency and effectiveness of government is in full demonstration here.

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<v Speaker 1>According to the Journal, they calculate they'll need twenty two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred CTAM machines to reach full operational capacity at all

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<v Speaker 1>our airports here, but they've only deployed about forty percent

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<v Speaker 1>of them. They have the funding, I guess, and it

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<v Speaker 1>won't they won't reach their goal until twenty forty two.

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<v Speaker 2>Sixteen years. Yeah, and by then the technology will be outdated.

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<v Speaker 2>Want to do all over again. It's a lot like

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<v Speaker 2>the puffer machines. You remember we had those for a

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<v Speaker 2>period of time. They were about one hundred and sixty

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<v Speaker 2>five thousand dollars a pop the usement nuclear power plants

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<v Speaker 2>and things. You'd step in them and they'd have that

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<v Speaker 2>little puffet of air that would go by, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was for explosive trace residue where they were trying to

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<v Speaker 2>see if any of your clothing skin had come in

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<v Speaker 2>contact with any explosive residue and it would flag and

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<v Speaker 2>then you'd be subjected to secondary security. The problem was

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<v Speaker 2>the failure rate on them was so high. It was

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<v Speaker 2>like people go through them and fail, rescan fail, and

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<v Speaker 2>then it was like, well, why do we even have them?

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<v Speaker 2>So they took all those things out eventually and came

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<v Speaker 2>in with the full body imaging scanners, which I like

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<v Speaker 2>because of the fact that they will detect powder or

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<v Speaker 2>liquid explosives it might be strapped to someone's body. The

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<v Speaker 2>magnetometers we walk through obviously we're designed simply for metal.

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<v Speaker 2>So the full body imaging scanners are the next best thing,

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<v Speaker 2>and certainly we want to speed up the security process.

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<v Speaker 2>And Brian, the technology down the road has us walking

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<v Speaker 2>through a hallway with our luggage and we would be

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<v Speaker 2>screened the entire way on both sides. So then after

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<v Speaker 2>we get to the end of the hallway, if there's

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<v Speaker 2>anything that we're carrying that is unquestionable, they simply pull

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<v Speaker 2>us off to the side and scan things, and everybody

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<v Speaker 2>else keeps walking. Because we recognize that aviation is what

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<v Speaker 2>it is, the economic engine that helps drive this country.

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<v Speaker 2>So everything we can do to make things safe and

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<v Speaker 2>certainly easier is going to be something that we're looking at.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why a lot of airlines around the world are

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<v Speaker 2>going to facial recognition technology. While we'll see it at

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<v Speaker 2>the TSA checkpoints, we'll see it at the gate area.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact that it will lead eventually to passengers boarding

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<v Speaker 2>themselves with no gate agent. That's the dream, because you

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<v Speaker 2>save money if you're an airline, if you don't have

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<v Speaker 2>to pay those people, I think you've got to have

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<v Speaker 2>somebody there. But they will have nearby customer service desks

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<v Speaker 2>to help people that might service eight or ten gates.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're moving in that direction and as far as

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<v Speaker 2>technology will allow us, in as far as the consumer

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<v Speaker 2>will allow it, We're going to continue to move in

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<v Speaker 2>that direction fair.

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<v Speaker 1>Enough, and I'm glad technology can advance like this, but

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<v Speaker 1>it just twenty forty two to unroll technology that we've

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<v Speaker 1>got already. And I appreciate that that technology also will

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<v Speaker 1>get uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Giving us a phone that's going to take sixteen years

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<v Speaker 2>to develop, that yeah, would be outdated after year eight

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<v Speaker 2>months or something else. So you hit it perfectly when

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<v Speaker 2>you started government led project, and sadly this is where

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure the CT scan manufacturer probably has a close

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<v Speaker 1>relationship with somebody in government. What do you think on that?

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<v Speaker 2>I would say probably both sides, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>And real quick for we're going to take another break

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<v Speaker 1>and get to the other topics because they're funny. Can

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<v Speaker 1>can you just explain to me how do they come

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<v Speaker 1>up with three point four ounces? Is that connected with anything?

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<v Speaker 1>It makes sense?

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<v Speaker 2>I Well, what you look at is the amount of

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<v Speaker 2>of explosives that would be needed for it to represent

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<v Speaker 2>a threat aero dynamically to the structure of the aircraft.

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<v Speaker 2>So but the problem is if you have minimal traits

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<v Speaker 2>of like ten people carrying it. Well, you've got a

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<v Speaker 2>lot more of what you need. So it's I hate

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<v Speaker 2>to say we're managing the perception of safety, but sadly

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<v Speaker 2>many times that's exactly what we're doing. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like before nine eleven we did screen check bags

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<v Speaker 2>because people thought we screen checked bags, and the thought

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<v Speaker 2>was is going to be too time consuming, too expensive,

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<v Speaker 2>No way people put up with it. You'd have to

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<v Speaker 2>check in five hours before, I mean all these things.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course after the attacks of nine to eleven

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<v Speaker 2>we did shift then, thankfully to screening every bag. But Brian,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, before nine eleven, fifty terrorists could have checked

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<v Speaker 2>in with fifty bags not even gotten on the plane

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<v Speaker 2>prior to the positive passenger bag match program we had,

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<v Speaker 2>and fifty airplanes would have came crashing out of the

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<v Speaker 2>not screening check bags at the time. So it forced

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<v Speaker 2>us through nine to eleven to take that step. Otherwise

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think they ever would have because after the

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<v Speaker 2>it was a decision all those years before we need

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<v Speaker 2>which again was a joke.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's bring it right back. We got some funny ones,

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<v Speaker 1>including a man bleeding from a hair transplant and lost

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<v Speaker 1>scissors forcing a flight to return to the gate. Though

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<v Speaker 1>first butt Herb Remoters family owned and opera. This is

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<v Speaker 1>five generations of family upper ownership and operation, and they

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<v Speaker 1>sell only the finest world class lawn equipment brands like

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<v Speaker 1>John Deere, x Mark Steele, and Hondo Power Equipment to

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<v Speaker 1>name a few I've worked with. But Herber Voters. I

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<v Speaker 1>have a wonderful contrast. Is why I'm so happy to

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<v Speaker 1>and it turns out no. I ended up with garbage

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<v Speaker 1>I had researched it. They don't know anything about what

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<v Speaker 1>time I used it, I had to take it back.

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<v Speaker 1>That was me doing all the loading and unloading and

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<v Speaker 1>putting it together, never ever going to be the case.

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<v Speaker 1>At Bud Herbert Motors, they'll deliver it to your door,

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<v Speaker 1>ready to run, ready to cut the lawn. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>use the steel power equipment, you know, the hedge clipper

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever you bought from the steel. John Deere, they're

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<v Speaker 1>having an inventory reduction sale in John Deere World class brand.

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<v Speaker 1>That one is. You can save a lot of money

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<v Speaker 1>by taking advantage of the inventory reduction sale. Where you

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<v Speaker 1>can learn more about it Budhebertmotors dot com. You know

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<v Speaker 1>Bud Herbert's old model. The most expensive tool you'll ever

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<v Speaker 1>buy is a cheap one. And don't you know it.

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<v Speaker 1>When I talked to Bud Herbert, I ended up with

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more than the lower quality models, but the

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<v Speaker 1>last mower I will ever buy. So say it the

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<v Speaker 1>Herbert family and I take confidence in that, and they

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<v Speaker 1>service what they sell. I've had them over to my

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<v Speaker 1>house to service it as well, getting the blade sharp

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<v Speaker 1>and the oil change. You can tell them, Brian said,

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<v Speaker 1>holding him over for the entire half hour. Yeah, you're

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<v Speaker 1>stuck with me, brother, No problem, we got a bleeding

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<v Speaker 1>hair transplant guy. You can't get on a plane after that.

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<v Speaker 2>Huh. No. It was an American Airlines flight I think

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen fifty eight was a flight number, to be boringly specific,

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<v Speaker 2>and they were flying from Miami to Las Vegas, and

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<v Speaker 2>and as it happens, it bleeds a little bit at

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<v Speaker 2>think the day after, so he bores the flight and

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<v Speaker 2>his forehead starts to bleed a little bit. They flight

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<v Speaker 2>attendants asked the advantage or something he could cover it

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<v Speaker 2>up with, giving him the opportunity to do so. He said,

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<v Speaker 2>need anything, And they said, no, there's a problem because

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<v Speaker 2>we can't have someone that has blood hazardous material my word,

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<v Speaker 2>have to deplane and catch a later flight. And he refused.

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<v Speaker 2>He's in Miami, Florida, says, I'm not going to do

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<v Speaker 2>it if I'm not flying. Nobody is well, okay, Now

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<v Speaker 2>everybody off the plane is removed. We do that now

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<v Speaker 2>because you don't want to have another doctor dragging down

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<v Speaker 2>Then the police are summoned and the police remove the

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<v Speaker 2>two and arrest them and away they go. But it

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<v Speaker 2>was simply it's a hazardous material. It's the same way

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<v Speaker 2>if you have a first responder that shows up somebody

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<v Speaker 2>is bleeding, they take precautions, and it's the same thing

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<v Speaker 2>with a flight crew. You simply can't have it. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Had the gate agent notice this, the gate agent probably

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<v Speaker 2>would have approached the individual saying, look, I've noticed this.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not gonna be allowed to board in this condition.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there anything that you can do, because if not,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to have to accommodate you on a later flight.

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<v Speaker 2>Never lying that individual get on the airplane. But the

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<v Speaker 2>gate areas are so chaotic, the staff is so overworked.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure they got there at the last second. They're

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<v Speaker 2>constant trading on the line of people that have already formed.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, they should have stopped the boarding process

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<v Speaker 2>and had the guy stepped to the side, but they

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<v Speaker 2>did not, and the flight attendants were forced to deal

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, okay. And even more bizarre lost scissors.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, this happened. It happened in Japan. And you've got

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<v Speaker 2>You've got the gift shops in the terminal, and one

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<v Speaker 2>of the gift shops noticed their scissors had gone missing.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you're in the sterile area of an airport. Everybody's

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<v Speaker 2>been screened, everybody's about to board airplanes. They contact the

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<v Speaker 2>airport police. We don't know what to do. Police say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we stop everything. Nobody boards any plane, no plane leaves.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got to get everybody out of the sterile area

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<v Speaker 2>back on the other side of security. Step one, Step two,

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<v Speaker 2>we've got to do a hard target search to the

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<v Speaker 2>entire terminal, seeing if the hit scissors were stolen and

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<v Speaker 2>placed somewhere under a seat, trash can, bathroom, everywhere has

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<v Speaker 2>to be checked because the thought is somebody could have

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<v Speaker 2>got them, hit them, and then rescreen, get back on

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<v Speaker 2>the other side, and then retrieve those scissors that they

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<v Speaker 2>hid and board a plane and do something bad. So

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<v Speaker 2>they go through this process of getting everybody out, They

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<v Speaker 2>do the search, they rescreen everybody, thirty one flights are canceled,

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred and ten flights are delayed before everybody's allowed

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<v Speaker 2>to finally leave, and the PS well and all of

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<v Speaker 2>that was the proper security protocol Bran. It's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>like if you and I are working at the TSA

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<v Speaker 2>checkpoint and somebody rushes by and is not screened and

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<v Speaker 2>goes into a terminal. As long as we can keep

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<v Speaker 2>an eye on that individual to make sure that they

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<v Speaker 2>did not interact with any person or did not hide

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<v Speaker 2>something somewhere. In other words, they were under constant supervision.

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<v Speaker 2>Once they're apprehended, you can remove them and nothing happens.

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<v Speaker 2>But the moment they disappear and you can't account for

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<v Speaker 2>where they were at or who they may have interacted with,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got to take the step of, Okay, we've got

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<v Speaker 2>to get everybody out, We've got to search the terminal

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<v Speaker 2>have to rescreen everybody and everything comes to a screeching halt.

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<v Speaker 2>Now the kicker here is the store that started all

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<v Speaker 2>this found the scissors the next day. Oh that's where

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<v Speaker 2>I put them. It's all for nothing. I know if

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<v Speaker 2>that person is still employed or not. But yes, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure people are not too happy to hear the PS

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<v Speaker 2>on that particular story. After going through all.

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<v Speaker 1>Of that, do the math on how much money it

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<v Speaker 1>costs collectively for every person delayed travel. You know, planes

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<v Speaker 1>being held up, YadA, YadA, YadA. It's amazing lost scissors all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right day, I'm making it up. I'm going to get emails.

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<v Speaker 2>We are not google it. It's on the internet, which

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<v Speaker 2>means it has to be true.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what Abraham Lincoln always said this part company as

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<v Speaker 1>we always doing hub delays. Jay Rattlive, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Knew that Abraham don's anything about the internet.

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<v Speaker 1>But Joe, if you read it on the internet, it's

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<v Speaker 1>true quote for.

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<v Speaker 2>Abraham Lincoln exactly. I love that the minimal issues, Brian,

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<v Speaker 2>we might see issues in Seattle and Tampa. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think anything untill later today, and I don't think the

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<v Speaker 2>delay is going to be more than thirty minutes. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's not even worth mentioning. So if you picked to day,

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<v Speaker 2>you picked probably the best day of the week to travel.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, good news from Jay Ratliff. Always a wonderful thing

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<v Speaker 1>to part company on. Good news Jay, until next week.

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<v Speaker 1>Take care of my friend. God bless you, and keep

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<v Speaker 1>up the positive attitude because it does rub off when

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<v Speaker 1>you post about it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's exactly what you're doing. So you keep up the

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<v Speaker 2>good work, brother.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks man. We'll talk eight fifty six to fifty five

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<v Speaker 1>Krcity talk station. Talk we did. Kurt Katsu was on

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<v Speaker 1>at seven thirty. Senior Policy Fellow