Speaker 1: Talk station, a thirty KCD talk station. Happy Friday Eve
Speaker 1: made always that much happier because at this point we
Speaker 1: get to talk. I heard media aviation expert Jay Ratliff,
Speaker 1: who joins a program every Thursday at this time. Jay Ratlift,
Speaker 1: my friend, welcome back to the morning show. It's always
Speaker 1: a pleasure having you on.
Speaker 2: Hey, Happy Friday Eve. It's a pleasure to be here. Well.
Speaker 1: And I read your posts from a few days ago
Speaker 1: on the Morning Show, I believe it was yesterday, and
Speaker 1: what a beautiful post it was, and you recounted your
Speaker 1: life having lived at the travel lodge over the Dayton
Speaker 1: International Airport for what ten years while you were honing
Speaker 1: your skills as a trader, perfecting your trade strategy, which
Speaker 1: is what you do for a living now. And you
Speaker 1: have all these students who learn how to trade stocks
Speaker 1: based upon your strategy, and you've been wildly successful. But
Speaker 1: it came as a consequence of hard work. And I
Speaker 1: used your post as a springboard to point that out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you struggled, you suffered, you had your bad days, but
Speaker 1: you worked your butt off and you transformed your life
Speaker 1: from living in a at a travel lodge to well
Speaker 1: a wildly successful, beautiful environment you're living in now. I
Speaker 1: love the pictures you send from your place down in
Speaker 1: at the Southern Command. But it was the point was
Speaker 1: hard work paid off, and that was the point of
Speaker 1: your post.
Speaker 2: And it could have been hard work may not have
Speaker 2: paid off. But you know when you when you recognize
Speaker 2: as idea, you have one life to live. And I've
Speaker 2: lost so many of my friends at such an early age.
Speaker 2: It's a further reminder that, look, you're here for one shot.
Speaker 2: Make the most of it. And when I see people
Speaker 2: that have dreams that really could contribute to our world
Speaker 2: and they back off because either they don't want it
Speaker 2: bad enough or they listen to other people who say
Speaker 2: it can't be done. I'm thinking a lot of the
Speaker 2: problems if you listened to them all one to a bazillion,
Speaker 2: a lot of those problems can be solved if people
Speaker 2: would follow their dreams. And you know, if it's if
Speaker 2: it's if it's somebody that creates a Microsoft Bill Gates,
Speaker 2: if it's somebody that creates a vaccine, if it's somebody
Speaker 2: that serves as a missionary and app whatever it is,
Speaker 2: if we could contribute what we're passionate about. My I mean,
Speaker 2: I watch people drive to work, Brian, and you do
Speaker 2: all the time, the frowns going, the stiles coming back.
Speaker 2: They live for that precious couple days off and then
Speaker 2: live for retirement where you what average retirement you seven years,
Speaker 2: You're dead. It just yeah. So I choose to take
Speaker 2: a slightly different outlook on things and appreciate every day
Speaker 2: that I've been given, and you know, I'm just glad
Speaker 2: I was given today. And yeah, my students continue to
Speaker 2: do well, and I'm very proud of them, and I
Speaker 2: try to encourage them to give back as well, because
Speaker 2: if you're going to start generating a lot of money,
Speaker 2: that's okay, but don't lose sight of the fact that
Speaker 2: you know you can be a blessing to other people
Speaker 2: and do it whatever it is that you are passionate about.
Speaker 2: Use what you've been given to try to affect the
Speaker 2: lives positively of other people.
Speaker 1: And that will bring you, oh Dari use the word joy.
Speaker 2: Yes, real joy. And you don't sit around complaining or
Speaker 2: have such hatred for a political opponent that it defines
Speaker 2: your existence. And I've told so many of my friends
Speaker 2: that are so anti Trump, I'm like, I get it,
Speaker 2: but don't allow him to control that man controls eighty
Speaker 2: percent of your life, and it's just your blood pressure
Speaker 2: goes up. There's no way you should ever allow something
Speaker 2: like that to happen. But when you when your life
Speaker 2: is defined by hate or by you know, being that miserable,
Speaker 2: I just I don't get it because I'm thinking, there's
Speaker 2: such a beautiful alternative to get away from that and
Speaker 2: turn to what you do. And I love my sister,
Speaker 2: but my sister is kind of along the line of
Speaker 2: you know, she hates Trump. She anytime something comes up,
Speaker 2: I've got to hear about it, and I'm like, I
Speaker 2: get it, I get it, I get it. And if
Speaker 2: you try to point something out on the other side,
Speaker 2: then it becomes name calling. And you never can have
Speaker 2: a conversation on facts because that's where it kind of
Speaker 2: goes out the window. And that's why when I heard
Speaker 2: Harris's speech here recently about all the economic points without
Speaker 2: any specifics. A, it sounded if you read the transcript
Speaker 2: like it was a Republican and B you look at
Speaker 2: the specifics, which she's not going to give until after
Speaker 2: she's elected. And it's that just like every other politician,
Speaker 2: sadly sometimes from both sides of the aisle. They're just
Speaker 2: throwing out sand sound bites, hoping that this dry by
Speaker 2: generation of social media buys the headlines and votes for her.
Speaker 1: Amen. That's why I like talking to you, Jay Ratliffe.
Speaker 1: You're uplifting. You got a great story, a great message.
Speaker 1: You're hopeful, you're proud of what you got. You're happily
Speaker 1: contently married to a beautiful woman who is your better half,
Speaker 1: all things right, and you like to point that out
Speaker 1: and you try to remind yourself of that every single day.
Speaker 1: You know, there's beautiful things going on.
Speaker 2: So get the motel room key from the travel lodge.
Speaker 2: I have it with me everywhere I go, so I
Speaker 2: refuse to forget where I came from. Brother.
Speaker 1: Good for you. I appreciate your message. I just had
Speaker 1: to bring that up. We'll dive into aviation issues coming
Speaker 1: up next. Has some funny stories to go over with. Jay.
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Speaker 1: the meth. The legend is I heard media aviation expert
Speaker 1: Jay Rattle if it doesn't mind a curveball every once
Speaker 1: in a while. Transportation and Security Mission has this three
Speaker 1: to one rule that's in place, and Jay, I'm sure
Speaker 1: you know about this, limiting the amount of liquid you
Speaker 1: can bring onto a plane to three point four ounces.
Speaker 1: I saw this Swall Street Journal article by Jacob Passey
Speaker 1: which pointed out that they're bringing out CT scanners and
Speaker 1: using the CT scanners that allows them to determine whether
Speaker 1: any given liquid is a danger or not. So if
Speaker 1: you have shampoo in a bottle and it's more than
Speaker 1: three point four ounces, the machine would say, not a problem,
Speaker 1: go ahead. It's not explosive. So that's fine. But the
Speaker 1: efficiency and effectiveness of government is in full demonstration here.
Speaker 1: According to the Journal, they calculate they'll need twenty two
Speaker 1: hundred CTAM machines to reach full operational capacity at all
Speaker 1: our airports here, but they've only deployed about forty percent
Speaker 1: of them. They have the funding, I guess, and it
Speaker 1: won't they won't reach their goal until twenty forty two.
Speaker 2: Sixteen years. Yeah, and by then the technology will be outdated.
Speaker 2: Want to do all over again. It's a lot like
Speaker 2: the puffer machines. You remember we had those for a
Speaker 2: period of time. They were about one hundred and sixty
Speaker 2: five thousand dollars a pop the usement nuclear power plants
Speaker 2: and things. You'd step in them and they'd have that
Speaker 2: little puffet of air that would go by, and it
Speaker 2: was for explosive trace residue where they were trying to
Speaker 2: see if any of your clothing skin had come in
Speaker 2: contact with any explosive residue and it would flag and
Speaker 2: then you'd be subjected to secondary security. The problem was
Speaker 2: the failure rate on them was so high. It was
Speaker 2: like people go through them and fail, rescan fail, and
Speaker 2: then it was like, well, why do we even have them?
Speaker 2: So they took all those things out eventually and came
Speaker 2: in with the full body imaging scanners, which I like
Speaker 2: because of the fact that they will detect powder or
Speaker 2: liquid explosives it might be strapped to someone's body. The
Speaker 2: magnetometers we walk through obviously we're designed simply for metal.
Speaker 2: So the full body imaging scanners are the next best thing,
Speaker 2: and certainly we want to speed up the security process.
Speaker 2: And Brian, the technology down the road has us walking
Speaker 2: through a hallway with our luggage and we would be
Speaker 2: screened the entire way on both sides. So then after
Speaker 2: we get to the end of the hallway, if there's
Speaker 2: anything that we're carrying that is unquestionable, they simply pull
Speaker 2: us off to the side and scan things, and everybody
Speaker 2: else keeps walking. Because we recognize that aviation is what
Speaker 2: it is, the economic engine that helps drive this country.
Speaker 2: So everything we can do to make things safe and
Speaker 2: certainly easier is going to be something that we're looking at.
Speaker 2: That's why a lot of airlines around the world are
Speaker 2: going to facial recognition technology. While we'll see it at
Speaker 2: the TSA checkpoints, we'll see it at the gate area.
Speaker 2: In fact that it will lead eventually to passengers boarding
Speaker 2: themselves with no gate agent. That's the dream, because you
Speaker 2: save money if you're an airline, if you don't have
Speaker 2: to pay those people, I think you've got to have
Speaker 2: somebody there. But they will have nearby customer service desks
Speaker 2: to help people that might service eight or ten gates.
Speaker 2: So we're moving in that direction and as far as
Speaker 2: technology will allow us, in as far as the consumer
Speaker 2: will allow it, We're going to continue to move in
Speaker 2: that direction fair.
Speaker 1: Enough, and I'm glad technology can advance like this, but
Speaker 1: it just twenty forty two to unroll technology that we've
Speaker 1: got already. And I appreciate that that technology also will
Speaker 1: get uh.
Speaker 2: Giving us a phone that's going to take sixteen years
Speaker 2: to develop, that yeah, would be outdated after year eight
Speaker 2: months or something else. So you hit it perfectly when
Speaker 2: you started government led project, and sadly this is where
Speaker 2: it goes.
Speaker 1: I'm sure the CT scan manufacturer probably has a close
Speaker 1: relationship with somebody in government. What do you think on that?
Speaker 2: I would say probably both sides, absolutely.
Speaker 1: And real quick for we're going to take another break
Speaker 1: and get to the other topics because they're funny. Can
Speaker 1: can you just explain to me how do they come
Speaker 1: up with three point four ounces? Is that connected with anything?
Speaker 1: It makes sense?
Speaker 2: I Well, what you look at is the amount of
Speaker 2: of explosives that would be needed for it to represent
Speaker 2: a threat aero dynamically to the structure of the aircraft.
Speaker 2: So but the problem is if you have minimal traits
Speaker 2: of like ten people carrying it. Well, you've got a
Speaker 2: lot more of what you need. So it's I hate
Speaker 2: to say we're managing the perception of safety, but sadly
Speaker 2: many times that's exactly what we're doing. And you know,
Speaker 2: it's like before nine eleven we did screen check bags
Speaker 2: because people thought we screen checked bags, and the thought
Speaker 2: was is going to be too time consuming, too expensive,
Speaker 2: No way people put up with it. You'd have to
Speaker 2: check in five hours before, I mean all these things.
Speaker 2: And of course after the attacks of nine to eleven
Speaker 2: we did shift then, thankfully to screening every bag. But Brian,
Speaker 2: you know, before nine eleven, fifty terrorists could have checked
Speaker 2: in with fifty bags not even gotten on the plane
Speaker 2: prior to the positive passenger bag match program we had,
Speaker 2: and fifty airplanes would have came crashing out of the
Speaker 2: sky with no terrace on board, simply because we were
Speaker 2: not screening check bags at the time. So it forced
Speaker 2: us through nine to eleven to take that step. Otherwise
Speaker 2: I don't think they ever would have because after the
Speaker 2: bombing of pan In one or three over lockerby Scotland,
Speaker 2: it was a decision all those years before we need
Speaker 2: to start screening check bags. They still chose not to
Speaker 2: do it and ask those three idiotic questions every time
Speaker 2: we checked in as the way to address the threat,
Speaker 2: which again was a joke.
Speaker 1: Let's bring it right back. We got some funny ones,
Speaker 1: including a man bleeding from a hair transplant and lost
Speaker 1: scissors forcing a flight to return to the gate. Though
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Speaker 1: stuck with me, brother, No problem, we got a bleeding
Speaker 1: hair transplant guy. You can't get on a plane after that.
Speaker 2: Huh. No. It was an American Airlines flight I think
Speaker 2: eighteen fifty eight was a flight number, to be boringly specific,
Speaker 2: and they were flying from Miami to Las Vegas, and
Speaker 2: apparently the man had just had a hair transplant surgery
Speaker 2: and as it happens, it bleeds a little bit at
Speaker 2: the scalp after the procedure the day of and I
Speaker 2: think the day after, so he bores the flight and
Speaker 2: his forehead starts to bleed a little bit. They flight
Speaker 2: attendants asked the advantage or something he could cover it
Speaker 2: up with, giving him the opportunity to do so. He said,
Speaker 2: I don't have anything. I'm fine, I'll be fine, don't
Speaker 2: need anything, And they said, no, there's a problem because
Speaker 2: we can't have someone that has blood hazardous material my word,
Speaker 2: not theirs bleeding from their forehead. So they told him
Speaker 2: that they since he didn't have anything to cover it
Speaker 2: up with, that he and his companion they would both
Speaker 2: have to deplane and catch a later flight. And he refused.
Speaker 2: He's in Miami, Florida, says, I'm not going to do
Speaker 2: it if I'm not flying. Nobody is well, okay, Now
Speaker 2: everybody off the plane is removed. We do that now
Speaker 2: because you don't want to have another doctor dragging down
Speaker 2: the aisle video. So they get all the passengers off first.
Speaker 2: Then the police are summoned and the police remove the
Speaker 2: two and arrest them and away they go. But it
Speaker 2: was simply it's a hazardous material. It's the same way
Speaker 2: if you have a first responder that shows up somebody
Speaker 2: is bleeding, they take precautions, and it's the same thing
Speaker 2: with a flight crew. You simply can't have it. Now.
Speaker 2: Had the gate agent notice this, the gate agent probably
Speaker 2: would have approached the individual saying, look, I've noticed this.
Speaker 2: You're not gonna be allowed to board in this condition.
Speaker 2: Is there anything that you can do, because if not,
Speaker 2: we're going to have to accommodate you on a later flight.
Speaker 2: Never lying that individual get on the airplane. But the
Speaker 2: gate areas are so chaotic, the staff is so overworked.
Speaker 2: I'm sure they got there at the last second. They're
Speaker 2: constant trading on the line of people that have already formed.
Speaker 2: And you know, they should have stopped the boarding process
Speaker 2: and had the guy stepped to the side, but they
Speaker 2: did not, and the flight attendants were forced to deal
Speaker 2: with it.
Speaker 1: Wow, okay. And even more bizarre lost scissors.
Speaker 2: Yep, this happened. It happened in Japan. And you've got
Speaker 2: You've got the gift shops in the terminal, and one
Speaker 2: of the gift shops noticed their scissors had gone missing.
Speaker 2: Now you're in the sterile area of an airport. Everybody's
Speaker 2: been screened, everybody's about to board airplanes. They contact the
Speaker 2: airport police. We don't know what to do. Police say, Okay,
Speaker 2: we stop everything. Nobody boards any plane, no plane leaves.
Speaker 2: We've got to get everybody out of the sterile area
Speaker 2: back on the other side of security. Step one, Step two,
Speaker 2: we've got to do a hard target search to the
Speaker 2: entire terminal, seeing if the hit scissors were stolen and
Speaker 2: placed somewhere under a seat, trash can, bathroom, everywhere has
Speaker 2: to be checked because the thought is somebody could have
Speaker 2: got them, hit them, and then rescreen, get back on
Speaker 2: the other side, and then retrieve those scissors that they
Speaker 2: hid and board a plane and do something bad. So
Speaker 2: they go through this process of getting everybody out, They
Speaker 2: do the search, they rescreen everybody, thirty one flights are canceled,
Speaker 2: two hundred and ten flights are delayed before everybody's allowed
Speaker 2: to finally leave, and the PS well and all of
Speaker 2: that was the proper security protocol Bran. It's a lot
Speaker 2: like if you and I are working at the TSA
Speaker 2: checkpoint and somebody rushes by and is not screened and
Speaker 2: goes into a terminal. As long as we can keep
Speaker 2: an eye on that individual to make sure that they
Speaker 2: did not interact with any person or did not hide
Speaker 2: something somewhere. In other words, they were under constant supervision.
Speaker 2: Once they're apprehended, you can remove them and nothing happens.
Speaker 2: But the moment they disappear and you can't account for
Speaker 2: where they were at or who they may have interacted with,
Speaker 2: you've got to take the step of, Okay, we've got
Speaker 2: to get everybody out, We've got to search the terminal
Speaker 2: have to rescreen everybody and everything comes to a screeching halt.
Speaker 2: Now the kicker here is the store that started all
Speaker 2: this found the scissors the next day. Oh that's where
Speaker 2: I put them. It's all for nothing. I know if
Speaker 2: that person is still employed or not. But yes, I'm
Speaker 2: sure people are not too happy to hear the PS
Speaker 2: on that particular story. After going through all.
Speaker 1: Of that, do the math on how much money it
Speaker 1: costs collectively for every person delayed travel. You know, planes
Speaker 1: being held up, YadA, YadA, YadA. It's amazing lost scissors all.
Speaker 2: Right day, I'm making it up. I'm going to get emails.
Speaker 2: We are not google it. It's on the internet, which
Speaker 2: means it has to be true.
Speaker 1: That's what Abraham Lincoln always said this part company as
Speaker 1: we always doing hub delays. Jay Rattlive, I.
Speaker 2: Knew that Abraham don's anything about the internet.
Speaker 1: But Joe, if you read it on the internet, it's
Speaker 1: true quote for.
Speaker 2: Abraham Lincoln exactly. I love that the minimal issues, Brian,
Speaker 2: we might see issues in Seattle and Tampa. I don't
Speaker 2: think anything untill later today, and I don't think the
Speaker 2: delay is going to be more than thirty minutes. So
Speaker 2: it's not even worth mentioning. So if you picked to day,
Speaker 2: you picked probably the best day of the week to travel.
Speaker 1: Yeah, good news from Jay Ratliff. Always a wonderful thing
Speaker 1: to part company on. Good news Jay, until next week.
Speaker 1: Take care of my friend. God bless you, and keep
Speaker 1: up the positive attitude because it does rub off when
Speaker 1: you post about it.
Speaker 2: It's exactly what you're doing. So you keep up the
Speaker 2: good work, brother.
Speaker 1: Thanks man. We'll talk eight fifty six to fifty five
Speaker 1: Krcity talk station. Talk we did. Kurt Katsu was on
Speaker 1: at seven thirty. Senior Policy Fellow