Speaker 1: Ready, get ready for.
Speaker 2: January thirty one, twenty twenty five, allegedly according to that
Speaker 2: thing we call a calendar. And yes, I'm still alive,
Speaker 2: and we are live here on a Frisday night, a
Speaker 2: little bit after eight pm Eastern on o'chelly dot com.
Speaker 2: This is the o'celly effect, and we're open to your
Speaker 2: calls and possibly your diseased mind, because it seems like
Speaker 2: everybody's is, including mine. I'm not going to speak for
Speaker 2: my cosppte, but everybody seems to have a diseased mind
Speaker 2: at this point. I don't know if you know this,
Speaker 2: but apparently, according to some people in our government, the
Speaker 2: ready for this one Hamas is making what condom bombs. Now, okay,
Speaker 2: this is news to me. I know they do make bombs.
Speaker 2: They make and they do their thing, and you might
Speaker 2: have your opinions on it, but I wasn't aware they
Speaker 2: were making condom bombs. But President Trump apparently said they're
Speaker 2: taking condom money fifty million dollars and making it into
Speaker 2: for condoms and making it into bombs. He did say
Speaker 2: that I'm going to break down what actually happened, but
Speaker 2: I'm not going to be a mainstream means media stooge,
Speaker 2: hold on, because these people are asking questions that don't
Speaker 2: need to be asked and doing what following up on
Speaker 2: all the wrong things, the usual moments of outrage, you know,
Speaker 2: getting mad at well ge. He keeps saying, DEI for
Speaker 2: the plane crash? Yeah, that's stupid, But how stupid is it?
Speaker 2: What's going on elsewise? And also, if you guys want
Speaker 2: to ask a real revealing question, do it stop screwing
Speaker 2: around now they don't want to do that. Let's be honest.
Speaker 2: The corporate media has now gotten in line and decided
Speaker 2: that they're going to normalize everything that's does accept the
Speaker 2: irrelevant stuff. So what are we left with the headlines
Speaker 2: of the executive orders that now don't say what the
Speaker 2: mainstream is telling you. They said, But is that unusual? No,
Speaker 2: because you were supposed to follow the science, you were
Speaker 2: supposed to trust the Biden administration. How come nobody and
Speaker 2: I do mean nobody, not the Fox media people, not
Speaker 2: the you know, the MSNBC outrage and I think Rachel
Speaker 2: Maddow has gone back to five days a week broadcast.
Speaker 2: You know, none of them ask the relevant question that
Speaker 2: all of America should actually be asking. Not you know, Hey,
Speaker 2: what the hell? Why did Biden pardon everybody? No, No,
Speaker 2: let's get on the pardons in a minute. Forget that.
Speaker 2: Here's the deal. If you can accept that Joe Biden
Speaker 2: was not capable of running the executive branch of the government,
Speaker 2: or at least not completely capable and incapable of a
Speaker 2: whole lot of complex things because he wasn't communicating in
Speaker 2: a complex way various days of the week live on
Speaker 2: TV during a debate. If you can accept that he
Speaker 2: was impaired and you know that, and you know he
Speaker 2: got too old? Ay, when did that happen? And b
Speaker 2: how about this big question? If he wasn't in charge,
Speaker 2: who was? See, that's the thing. Was it Kamala? Apparently not?
Speaker 2: Because I had this funny feeling that things would have
Speaker 2: went differently if Kamala was actually calling the shots. So
Speaker 2: who was the shot caller?
Speaker 3: Just?
Speaker 2: I mean, is anybody going to ask that question? Actually?
Speaker 2: I don't think so, you know why, because it's relevant,
Speaker 2: it's important. It would actually reveal something. How is it
Speaker 2: that the president went on autopilot but the executive branch
Speaker 2: continued to do complex things? Now, don't bother to ask
Speaker 2: that question? And on those pardons a gift handed to
Speaker 2: the Trump humping lovers of that side of the equation, which,
Speaker 2: by the way, face this fact, no matter who you are,
Speaker 2: that's more than half the country, you know, according to
Speaker 2: the votes, and according to what I see, it's way
Speaker 2: more than half the country. The craziness that people say, oh,
Speaker 2: Trump's gonna get you know, the old Trump's gonna get busted,
Speaker 2: wet dream that they've had for the past I don't know,
Speaker 2: ten years, not going to happen because nobody wants it
Speaker 2: to happen. Not really. And here's the deal. Biden gives
Speaker 2: out pardons right to a whole bunch of people, whether
Speaker 2: it's Anthony Fauci, a whole bunch of senators, his whole family. Well,
Speaker 2: here's an interesting thing. You can't plead the fifth Now,
Speaker 2: if you've been pardoned for a crime, you have no
Speaker 2: no risk of guess what, self incrimination in various procedures. Okay,
Speaker 2: which means that calling somebody is a witness who's been
Speaker 2: pardoned for a crime. You know, they do this all
Speaker 2: the time, usually in rico cases. How come nobody is
Speaker 2: pressing for Well, now, that means we can get you
Speaker 2: to tell us the truth about things. No, they can
Speaker 2: still decline to answer and refuse. Yeah, but because they
Speaker 2: don't have use of their Fifth Amendment privilege because it
Speaker 2: does not apply at this point, doesn't that mean and
Speaker 2: nobody's asking this question either. And I'm not a legal
Speaker 2: you know, scholar, I'm not a lawyer, but I'm wondering
Speaker 2: why nobody's even asking a lawyer or a legal scholar.
Speaker 2: Excuse me. But if that's the case, can't I call
Speaker 2: somebody as a witness and when they refuse to testify,
Speaker 2: I can then say they're obstructing justice, refusing to cooperate
Speaker 2: with the court, therefore in contempt, therefore committing perjury if
Speaker 2: they say something other than you know, hello, opportunities handed
Speaker 2: to people here, And all you're concerned about is well
Speaker 2: they finally let the j six people go. Well, he
Speaker 2: wrote executive orders that demand now DEI will be removed.
Speaker 2: None of the substantive issues, none of the actual lock
Speaker 2: these people up that need to be locked up, not
Speaker 2: on either side of the equation. I said this when
Speaker 2: they went after Trump too. I said, how come they
Speaker 2: don't go out for stuff that's publicly demonstrable that is
Speaker 2: problematic for somebody to do in his position. Well, they don't.
Speaker 2: They went after nonsense. They went after loose, bad evidence.
Speaker 2: They went after stuff that a county prosecutor in no name, county,
Speaker 2: whatever the hell in the middle of the country would
Speaker 2: have known better than to bother going after even the
Speaker 2: local guy who owns two car dealerships. They wouldn't have
Speaker 2: gone after a guy for this because they would have
Speaker 2: found something better and a slam dunk at least portion
Speaker 2: of a case. But no, they didn't do that. You
Speaker 2: know why because at the end of the day, nobody
Speaker 2: wants to bust the other side. It will reveal the
Speaker 2: wrong things, interesting facts. See, if you start to pick
Speaker 2: at the scab, the real real scab, of the foreign
Speaker 2: interests that paid off certain people in office, and I
Speaker 2: say again, find me a representative in the House or
Speaker 2: a senator who serves I don't know, more than two
Speaker 2: terms and does not drastically increase their fortunes. Find me one, okay,
Speaker 2: maybe three terms in the House. I'll say, you know
Speaker 2: you got you gotta three terms in the House and
Speaker 2: two terms as a senator. Find me one who does
Speaker 2: not walk in there with whatever and come out greatly enriched.
Speaker 2: And oh, by the Biden, anybody keep track of the
Speaker 2: latest Nancy Pelosi stock trading strategy, Because here's the thing.
Speaker 2: Nancy and Paul Pelosi, a genius out there, came up
Speaker 2: with a way to sort of track their trades. And
Speaker 2: if you track their trades and you use, you know, secondhand,
Speaker 2: their ability, their insider trading knowledge, you too can make
Speaker 2: a fast buck. Apparently, I'm learning all kinds of weird
Speaker 2: stuff this week. And on top of it, somebody shuffled
Speaker 2: me an Instagram audio of guess what, Cliff Carter right,
Speaker 2: lbj's making the statement that, gee, you know, I'm having
Speaker 2: arguments with Linden because Lyndon was still alive at this
Speaker 2: point this tape was made. I'm having arguments with Linden
Speaker 2: because he never should have sent Mac Wallace to kill JFK.
Speaker 2: Now that's what's on the tape. It is allegedly an
Speaker 2: authentic tape of Cliff Carter talking to I think Billy Celesties,
Speaker 2: who was a con artist, full of craps, somebody who
Speaker 2: claimed to take a whole lot of secrets to his
Speaker 2: grave one time, testified to a wild array of a
Speaker 2: whole bunch of people that LBJ, in one way or another,
Speaker 2: participated in having killed, including his own sister, JFK. Henry Marshall,
Speaker 2: a list of other nameable names who you know, at
Speaker 2: the end of the day was involved in the swirl
Speaker 2: of continually evolving hyperbole. Let's call it and bs because
Speaker 2: he was a con artist and a liar, but he did.
Speaker 2: You know, con artists and liars can't get through a
Speaker 2: whole day by lying about everything. So sometimes more often
Speaker 2: than a broken clock, they do tell you some truths,
Speaker 2: but you always got to sort through it, you know,
Speaker 2: much like that lady who was supposedly lbj's mistress, right
Speaker 2: or well, one of the many that he bagged. Of course,
Speaker 2: usually it was secretaries or whoever. You could get to
Speaker 2: sit still loging up and he could grab by the
Speaker 2: ears like you like to grab hound dogs. But anyway,
Speaker 2: one of the women that he had a couple of
Speaker 2: rounds with and probably fathered one of her children. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Matdeline Duncan Brown. You know, she made some claims that
Speaker 2: line up with Billy celesties, But then again, her whole life,
Speaker 2: her claims kept evolving, and you know, even outside of
Speaker 2: the LBJ affair affairs, whatever you want to call them,
Speaker 2: And meanwhile, she was just another stop along the LBJ
Speaker 2: train where he wanted to land or make stops here
Speaker 2: and there, not just in Texas, but elsewhere. You know,
Speaker 2: that woman made a lot of claims on tape that
Speaker 2: contradict each other, and at certain points try to put
Speaker 2: everybody in the world at a party, you know, before
Speaker 2: and after the assassination, I believe, but the pre assassination
Speaker 2: party is the one everybody focuses on. And at the
Speaker 2: end of the day, I mean she went to her grave,
Speaker 2: you know, still be in charge with check fraud and
Speaker 2: stuff like well into what her eighties. Anyway, old ladies
Speaker 2: with their stories, sometimes they're not always accurate. Sometimes you know,
Speaker 2: it's benign, other times it's not. Anyway, point is that swirrel.
Speaker 2: I'm listening to this tape recently and talking to serious
Speaker 2: people about what does this mean and what can we
Speaker 2: do with it because nobody can authenticate it. It can't
Speaker 2: be tracked down. Nobody's got the original, you know, just
Speaker 2: like everything else on the internet, in our government and
Speaker 2: in the media. So if you want to call in
Speaker 2: and talk about this or any other topic, and god
Speaker 2: knows what's on b Pete's mind after you listen to
Speaker 2: my little rant, but I had to get to it.
Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, more to speak about regarding
Speaker 2: this condoms and Moss. I want to get your impression
Speaker 2: about that, be Pete before you know, at some point
Speaker 2: in your opening remarks here. But I want to have
Speaker 2: fun with the audience. Three one nine five two seven
Speaker 2: five zero one six. I already saw preemptively that our
Speaker 2: friend Jimmy James had bought into the Jennifer Aniston breaking
Speaker 2: up the Obama's rumor, which is hilarious but doesn't appear
Speaker 2: to have legs anyways, Jennifer Aniston just straight talk. I'd
Speaker 2: go there, but you know, just just to see to
Speaker 2: look on her face, because she has an odd sort
Speaker 2: of face. Anyway, I'm digging Jennifer Aniston, but not when
Speaker 2: she was younger. When she got older, I liked her,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Anyways, it is what it is.
Speaker 2: It was what it was, and it's gonna be what
Speaker 2: it's gonna be. Three one nine five two seven five
Speaker 2: zero one six. That's the number to call, and you
Speaker 2: can talk about this or anything else you like, and
Speaker 2: I'll save my analysis of the condom bombs and humas
Speaker 2: for later on in the show, because there is a
Speaker 2: truth there that we can dispense with in thirty seconds.
Speaker 2: But you know, why bother with that? Why let a
Speaker 2: good line of BS and a good BS story get
Speaker 2: in the way of things like facts, whether they be
Speaker 2: alternative or not. We definitely live in a new age
Speaker 2: and it is strange. Bet Pete. I don't know how
Speaker 2: you're feeling about all this, but man, it's getting weird.
Speaker 2: It's getting weirder out there, it's getting weirder in here.
Speaker 2: And finally, I'm recovering enough that next week we'll have
Speaker 2: Mike Swanson on. Some of my regular scheduled guests are
Speaker 2: going to return finally, and I am looking for brand
Speaker 2: new material and fresh discussions about topics I have never
Speaker 2: covered before on this show. And I think it's time
Speaker 2: to change up a lot of things, include maybe my
Speaker 2: opinion is about some people, places and things. But you know,
Speaker 2: you just about feel like you're gonna die from the
Speaker 2: mystery illness. It'll get to you. And also I talked
Speaker 2: to Chris Graves off air, which I didn't think I
Speaker 2: was gonna do, but I did, and you know, it
Speaker 2: is what it is it was what it was gonna be,
Speaker 2: what it's gonna be. But we shall see. So what's
Speaker 2: on your mind this week? My friend, my co host,
Speaker 2: and I'll check the phone lines while you load up
Speaker 2: for bear here today.
Speaker 3: You know you're sure you want to stop?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 5: If you go another seven minutes, you'll have a solid
Speaker 5: twenty five minute rand.
Speaker 3: Really, Yeah, you've been, yeah, visiting, watching the clock going.
Speaker 3: Is he gonna take a freaking breath?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 2: My well, see now, my recording time says I only
Speaker 2: went thirteen minutes and forty seconds. Impossible, that's what it
Speaker 2: says intro and all thirteen minutes and forty seconds that's
Speaker 2: what was recorded.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, then my clock, i'll see.
Speaker 2: Well it says twenty it says twenty three after on
Speaker 2: my on my clock. That's you know, lined up to
Speaker 2: everybody else's clock. But but we started late, about ten
Speaker 2: minutes later almost, So now we're important.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm allowing you five minutes in there that I
Speaker 5: guess you didn't have anyway, I'm.
Speaker 2: Sorry, it's been a while since I get I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: It's been a while since I could string together a
Speaker 2: couple of good sentences. And I like to rant so
Speaker 2: my apologies, my friend, please could go big.
Speaker 3: It's your show you talked about to want.
Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, it's your show too. Oh last week's last
Speaker 2: week's podcast. By the way, I am going to release
Speaker 2: that that show we did with Nature Boy. I don't know,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe you want to catch up with people
Speaker 2: on that too. I forgot to mention it. But anyway,
Speaker 2: let me shut up and let you take the floor.
Speaker 5: Please, Well, you're you're behind on the partners bit. There
Speaker 5: was some coverage by Jonathan Turley and a couple of
Speaker 5: others when they issued when Biden issued to partons preemptively.
Speaker 3: Basically the only time it's been done before is when
Speaker 3: Nixon was pardoned, right, it was at first specific crime.
Speaker 5: And nobody ever took it to court because nobody wanted
Speaker 5: to charge him with anything. In this case, all these
Speaker 5: preemptives for Fauci and Biden's brother, his sister, his sister
Speaker 5: in law. Hunter's pardon covers whatever he was accused of.
Speaker 3: I don't know that he covers the things he wasn't
Speaker 3: brought charges on.
Speaker 5: Basically, a pardoner's supposed to be for an offense. So
Speaker 5: what they're saying is is that, yeah, they contested in court.
Speaker 5: Comer and the rest of them in the Congress. They're
Speaker 5: going to start.
Speaker 3: He wants to get ahold of Biden's tax records. They
Speaker 3: say they've got a total of thirty million dollars that
Speaker 3: they brought in that never was taxes were never paid on. Okay,
Speaker 3: any pardon.
Speaker 5: That's given on a federal level doesn't cover state crimes,
Speaker 5: so somebody could go after him for state tax evasion
Speaker 5: or something like that. Okay, that way, but the pardon
Speaker 5: itself is supposed to be for something that was done.
Speaker 5: You're pardoning something that happened, So when you do it preemptively,
Speaker 5: it's not a pardon. What specifically are you partning now
Speaker 5: when it comes to the Fifth Amendment thing if you
Speaker 5: accept a pardon.
Speaker 2: Well, really really quick question, I'm sorry, really quick question
Speaker 2: about this because I know you're correct, But I've seen
Speaker 2: before again observing mob cases right where effectively they can't
Speaker 2: itemize all the crimes committed by the mobster. Right like
Speaker 2: in the case of like say Sammy the Bull Gravano,
Speaker 2: they can name all the murders if they're lucky, right,
Speaker 2: there's thirty murders, but they don't necessarily have every assault
Speaker 2: yarde down right, where you know, every broken kneecap can
Speaker 2: be accounted for every dollar.
Speaker 3: Usually in those cases when they issue.
Speaker 5: It's not a pardon, they are immune from prosecution to
Speaker 5: anything that they would testify to as long as they
Speaker 5: are truthful. Right, So that's when they come up with
Speaker 5: the oh, yeah, and I bumped this guy off back
Speaker 5: in eighty six. Who was, you know, trying to get
Speaker 5: in in our numbers game and he was causing too
Speaker 5: much of a stink. Or we had an associate that
Speaker 5: had done some stupid things and we decided to you know,
Speaker 5: lessen our overhead.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this guy, this guy we kept in the
Speaker 2: trunk of a car for the weekend. I forgot about him,
Speaker 2: but we did let him go. So technically it would
Speaker 2: be kidnapping, et cetera. Right, I get all that. And
Speaker 2: that's an immunity agreement, which is again different than and
Speaker 2: then a pardon, because a pardon wipes it clear. The
Speaker 2: immunity agreement just says you can't be prosecuted, right, good, all.
Speaker 3: Pardon doesn't wipe it clear.
Speaker 5: A pardon simply sets aside any penalty for the crime involved.
Speaker 5: It wipes the penalty away. You're still prosecuted. You're still
Speaker 5: a felon, you know, on a federal charges. Depending on
Speaker 5: what the charge, this could be a federal misdemeanor, but
Speaker 5: most federal charges when it comes things like that, are felony.
Speaker 3: So you can't buy a gun blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: Right, so any baalty of being a felon is gone,
Speaker 2: but you're still a felon, right, I mean, like you
Speaker 2: know all the stuff where they say you can't.
Speaker 5: You know, one of the guys on the J six
Speaker 5: they ask him, you know, now as you've had your pardon,
Speaker 5: what are you gonna do? He said, I'm gonna do
Speaker 5: the American thing. I'm We'll go out and buy plenty
Speaker 5: of guns. Okay, Well, because his right has been restored
Speaker 5: through the part. And usually if you're a convicted felon,
Speaker 5: you can't on a firearm in a lot of places, in.
Speaker 2: A lot of places in Georgia, it doesn't matter because
Speaker 2: you don't need to prove even who you are. You know,
Speaker 2: all you need to do is prove that you're an adult.
Speaker 2: And you know what I mean, that's it, right, So
Speaker 2: convicted felons, technically, in certain ways can go make casual
Speaker 2: purchases of firearms in certain places, and it's a legal purchase.
Speaker 2: But you can't get yourself run through the thing and
Speaker 2: make one of those registered purchases if you're a felon
Speaker 2: in most places. Right, So there's one of those things
Speaker 2: where it's a little dicey and there is a difference.
Speaker 2: But usually, I mean, even if you have, if you
Speaker 2: have a pardon in hand, it's very simple to attach
Speaker 2: an immunity agreement to it, right, So, I mean it's
Speaker 2: not that hard. I don't know technically, I didn't look
Speaker 2: at all these pardons, but go ahead.
Speaker 5: The immunity agreement keeps you from being prosecuted for what
Speaker 5: it is you're testifying too. Right, it's a totally different
Speaker 5: thing than a part.
Speaker 3: There are two. They're not even apples and oranges. There
Speaker 3: are apples and pliers, rightly different things.
Speaker 2: I skipped an operation there when I was theoretically discussing
Speaker 2: you could bring somebody in to have them testify, because
Speaker 2: you can bring them in and say, look, you've got
Speaker 2: a pardon on this crime, so we can ask you
Speaker 2: about this crime. And you know, also absolute immunity can
Speaker 2: be attached to that, right, Well.
Speaker 3: Not absolute immunity.
Speaker 5: If you have a pardon, it's if somebody pardon me
Speaker 5: for something, all right, they call before Congress, all right,
Speaker 5: well how did this work?
Speaker 3: How did you funnel the money? What did you do
Speaker 3: with all these LLCs?
Speaker 5: If you accepted the pardon, you no longer have a
Speaker 5: Fifth Amendment protection from self incrimination. If you don't testify,
Speaker 5: they hold you in contempt, which is they can go
Speaker 5: after you that way.
Speaker 3: It's a congressional thing. But if it's in a court
Speaker 3: of law and they hold you in contempt, they can
Speaker 3: throw you in jail, plain and simple.
Speaker 2: Well, technically speaking, they can put you in jail in
Speaker 2: Congress too. They have a little cell there and they
Speaker 2: have people to do that. But it's difficult and it's
Speaker 2: not something that I don't think has been done in
Speaker 2: a very long time.
Speaker 3: Right, Congress can't hold you in jail if Congress. If
Speaker 3: you go before Congress and they.
Speaker 5: Hold you in contempt of Congress, then you go through
Speaker 5: a court hearing for that contempt, and then that's when
Speaker 5: you're giving your punishment. Rogerstone, who was Steve Bannon. They
Speaker 5: refused to testify, they were held in contempt.
Speaker 3: They actually had a court hearing, right, and they, yes,
Speaker 3: I didn't go because of presidential immunity or confidential discussions
Speaker 3: between the president and his advisors comes under executive privilege.
Speaker 2: Whatever their justification was for not testifying. But then when
Speaker 2: Stone went before that hearing, they convicted him of witness tampering, right,
Speaker 2: and intimidation. And that stemmed from the original contempt thing. Right,
Speaker 2: that was part of that, wasn't it. Right.
Speaker 3: So you know, when it comes to pardons, a pardon
Speaker 3: is a good thing.
Speaker 5: There's two When Joe Biden pardoned all of the federal
Speaker 5: death row prisoners, right, there were two that refused it.
Speaker 5: One of them, I don't know what the other one's
Speaker 5: reason was. The first guy that refused it said, no,
Speaker 5: I'm not taking a pardon because I'm innocent. I haven't
Speaker 5: done anything, and if I accept this pardon, my appeals
Speaker 5: go out the window.
Speaker 2: Well, a lady from the J six group, Yeah, a
Speaker 2: lady from the J six group did the same thing.
Speaker 2: I don't want to pardon exactly. Yeah. So okay, So yeah, you.
Speaker 5: Know, pardons. You can talk about pardons left and right.
Speaker 5: The funny thing is about this is before Trump's first
Speaker 5: term was over with and everybody's campaigning for the election
Speaker 5: in twenty twenty, A lot of the pundits and all
Speaker 5: were making a comment where you know, uh, Trump could
Speaker 5: just come up and pardon his son and pardons this.
Speaker 5: And Trump ended up pardoning was it his his was
Speaker 5: it was either no, it was either his son or
Speaker 5: his daughters in law parent. Maybe it was Ivanka's husband's
Speaker 5: dad or something. One of them got pardoned towards.
Speaker 3: The end of it.
Speaker 5: But they were talking about him pardoning his son and
Speaker 5: he could pardon himself and all this other thing, right,
Speaker 5: And you know, just four years later, that's exactly what
Speaker 5: happened with Biden. Biden has has pardoned more people than
Speaker 5: all of the other presidents combined.
Speaker 2: Has he really? Because I mean there have been blizzards,
Speaker 2: you know, storms of pardons from different presidents on their
Speaker 2: way out the door. But I wasn't aware your number here. Yeah, yes, Carter.
Speaker 5: I don't know how many people came under Carter's pardon
Speaker 5: of all the draft dodgers, but from what I understand,
Speaker 5: Biden's total was more than all the other presidents combined.
Speaker 2: I mean, because that's a lot considering the amount of
Speaker 2: people that Clinton pardoned on the way out quietly, and
Speaker 2: one of the bushes issued a pretty good, you know,
Speaker 2: huge explosion excuse me of pardons on the way out
Speaker 2: the door.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Biden was going like twelve hundred and a whack
Speaker 5: oh okay, because all of the federal death row prisoners,
Speaker 5: another group of twelve hundred his family.
Speaker 3: And that's the funny thing.
Speaker 5: You know, Basically, when you issue pardons like that, you're
Speaker 5: pretty much admitting, well, these people did something, but we
Speaker 5: don't need to talk about it.
Speaker 3: Their pardons. Well, there's that.
Speaker 2: There's that. There's also the idea of defense. Let's let's
Speaker 2: be you know, objective, right, there's the idea of defense
Speaker 2: where you know that there's been declarations that we're gonna
Speaker 2: go after all these people because he had he included
Speaker 2: Congress people, he included I mean, it's it's such a
Speaker 2: wide array. I'm surprised I didn't get one, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. At some point here it was like,
Speaker 2: let me just preemptively. And that's the weirdest thing about
Speaker 2: this to me, is preemptibly as I don't know if
Speaker 2: it's the only case ever, but Nixon's old thing was,
Speaker 2: you know, he's being pardoned for any crimes he has
Speaker 2: committed or you know, could possibly have committed. Even it
Speaker 2: was sort of like, even, shit, we don't know about uh,
Speaker 2: we're gonna pardon Nixon for right, like whatever, all of
Speaker 2: his crimes against the United States, forget it, they're gone,
Speaker 2: which was pretty wild considering his only real legal battle
Speaker 2: at that point was fighting the tapes. You know, because
Speaker 2: impeachment again not a criminal situation. You don't need a
Speaker 2: pardon from an impeachment, although it does kind of stop
Speaker 2: an impeachment because what's the point. But either way, right,
Speaker 2: I mean, so that was an unusual circumstance. But what's
Speaker 2: funny to me is again it's like exactly the thing
Speaker 2: that they were saying that Trump was gonna do Biden does.
Speaker 2: This is why, I say, you know, not a big difference. Also,
Speaker 2: funny thing about the executive order, which I know we're
Speaker 2: gonna have to cover, you know, the major one about
Speaker 2: MLKJFK and RK before we're done here tonight and probably
Speaker 2: again and again over the next few weeks, based on
Speaker 2: what happens. But please continue.
Speaker 5: Well, it just it's gonna I don't know whether it's
Speaker 5: gonna come from congressional testimony or if some state ag
Speaker 5: is going to take it upon himself to haul one
Speaker 5: of them in the court, get somebody indicted in front
Speaker 5: of grand jury. But the parton issue is going to
Speaker 5: eventually end up in court with one of them, because
Speaker 5: if they go through this congressional hearing, I mean, they're
Speaker 5: looking at thirty million dollars that Coxes were never paid
Speaker 5: off and if they can link somebody to it. The
Speaker 5: thing was Trump's crew was talking about, oh, you know,
Speaker 5: we can't wait till we get in and we get
Speaker 5: Joe Biden in court and blah blah blah and Liz
Speaker 5: Cheney for talking to somebody without their attorney president and
Speaker 5: convincing them to fire their attorney and hire an attorney
Speaker 5: that she recommended. And she's not supposed to talk to
Speaker 5: witnesses and a congressional hearing, you know, unless our lawyer's present.
Speaker 5: So the preemptive the January sixth committee that was pardoned
Speaker 5: by Biden was to cover a few things that went
Speaker 5: on with like Liz Cheney and Adam Schiff and a
Speaker 5: few of the other ones, some really shady things that
Speaker 5: were going on. They and they also he included people
Speaker 5: that testified for the committee. So that covers the political
Speaker 5: aid that had second hand knowledge of Trump trying to
Speaker 5: commander a vehicle that you know is impossible for him
Speaker 5: to do because there's a separator between the driver in
Speaker 5: the compartment.
Speaker 2: That Oh, that was that was, Yeah, that was that
Speaker 2: whole story about him trying to grab the steering wheel
Speaker 2: right like, you know during the thing to turn the car.
Speaker 3: Around hand hearsay evidence.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm just recounting the alleged story, right. That
Speaker 2: was that thing that happened where he wanted to turn
Speaker 2: the car, which, by the way, Danny, I see you
Speaker 2: on the phone line, and we're going to get to
Speaker 2: you first. I see you there. But I just want
Speaker 2: to let Bpete finish this. And I'm reminding people of
Speaker 2: different things as we go, but yeah, continue, So there's
Speaker 2: about that.
Speaker 5: So you know, the January sixth committee thing was something
Speaker 5: that Biden came up with to cover some people that
Speaker 5: were basically covering his butt before he went out the
Speaker 5: door on the the condom thing looking through records of
Speaker 5: support that's been sent to Goza in the Middle East.
Speaker 2: That's not as serious an issue as these other things
Speaker 2: we're going.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, it is a serious issue. Fifty one million
Speaker 5: dollars for condoms. Now, but you think about this, our government,
Speaker 5: our state governments and progressive left, they started pushing putting
Speaker 5: condoms in grade schools.
Speaker 3: Gotta have free condoms.
Speaker 5: These kids are doing nothing but going out there in
Speaker 5: Fornic Cayton, and you know they need to be safe
Speaker 5: and they could catch AIDS or something.
Speaker 3: So we need to give out these condoms.
Speaker 5: There's not a country in the world that we haven't
Speaker 5: sent some form of aid to. And I'll bet you
Speaker 5: if you check the records, you're gonna find out we
Speaker 5: have provided enough condoms for this world three times over see.
Speaker 2: But I did check the records, Okay, but I did
Speaker 2: check the records on this particular thing. He's got a
Speaker 2: whole bunch of things wrong here. First of all, it's
Speaker 2: sixty million dollars, not fifty. Okay, it's more money. First
Speaker 2: of all. Secondly, this is a thing. This is one
Speaker 2: of those many, many programs, and you can complain about
Speaker 2: it any which way you want that sends a contraception
Speaker 2: to various countries. It's not specifically for Hamas or for Palestine,
Speaker 2: or this is we sent condoms there. Oh no, I'm
Speaker 2: just telling you what the reality is. This is we
Speaker 2: send rubbers everywhere, okay, just like we'll send you know,
Speaker 2: planned parenthood, which we exported that for many years. Like
Speaker 2: it or not, that's one of the things that this
Speaker 2: government did. And fifty million dollars is you know, a
Speaker 2: squirt of piss in the bucket versus the rest of
Speaker 2: you know, what goes on with government waste and stupid
Speaker 2: things that we send across, you know, to other countries.
Speaker 2: But forget that, Let's forget about all the judgments. None
Speaker 2: of this money actually went to Hamas or Palestine. This
Speaker 2: money was sent and ostensibly and condoms literally were physically
Speaker 2: sent to certain places depending on what was more expedient.
Speaker 2: They exported condoms to many countries. How that has to
Speaker 2: do with I mean, he's alleging that they somehow took
Speaker 2: the condom money and built bombs with it.
Speaker 5: There's no no, they actually used the condoms in making
Speaker 5: the bombs.
Speaker 3: They take the condoms and they saw a clip of this.
Speaker 5: They take the condoms and fill them up like balloons
Speaker 5: with helio and attach the bombs to it, and it's
Speaker 5: that's how they can float it over the fifth on
Speaker 5: the border.
Speaker 2: Do you not see this, You really take this seriously,
Speaker 2: like this is something of significance.
Speaker 3: Oh, I have to understand. These guys are in the
Speaker 3: Middle East.
Speaker 5: You don't waste any type of usable item when it
Speaker 5: comes to warfare.
Speaker 2: I know, I saw I saw videos recently about how
Speaker 2: you can use condoms to create very good host things
Speaker 2: for your house and your outside garden. Knows and everything.
Speaker 2: I saw videos on this this week.
Speaker 3: Yeah, helium, and you don't.
Speaker 5: I mean, maybe there's a balloon shortage over there, who knows,
Speaker 5: But all these think about it.
Speaker 3: Amasa sitting there going yo, obie, what are we gonna do?
Speaker 3: We got ninety two cases of condoms over there. We
Speaker 3: can only use so many, so what are we gonna do?
Speaker 3: They're free. The US figures that's going to solve all
Speaker 3: the world's problems.
Speaker 5: My cousin over at the tar he's sitting on thirty
Speaker 5: cases of them and don't know what to do.
Speaker 3: What can we do? So they get they get creative.
Speaker 5: They use them as helium balloons to float stuff over the.
Speaker 7: Fence and do you know their damage. It's a legit thing.
Speaker 7: It's when you hear about it in the news, it's
Speaker 7: like we sent fifty one million dollars worth of condoms.
Speaker 7: That's a lot of damn condoms.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know what it costs to make
Speaker 3: a condom what three cents?
Speaker 2: Well spread out across various nations, I mean, how many
Speaker 2: you know condoms? Did Hamas actually end.
Speaker 3: Up met condoms?
Speaker 5: We have sent a country in Africa, the Middle East,
Speaker 5: South America, Asia?
Speaker 3: Just I mean, are we keeping the condom company in
Speaker 3: business with.
Speaker 2: All these I guarantee you some congressperson owns cheap ass
Speaker 2: condom company brand Act that has the government contract on this.
Speaker 2: I'm sure that. So somebody has a whole business based
Speaker 2: on the fact that they are the condom company for
Speaker 2: the US government. Probably out there in the world. I'd
Speaker 2: love it if somebody would send me one. There's literally
Speaker 2: a condom that is stamped like you know, US government issue.
Speaker 2: There's guaranteed a government issue condom. Here's the sad thing, though,
Speaker 2: is these cheap condom companies. If I was working with
Speaker 2: explosives and looking for materials, I would not work with
Speaker 2: them because you know, one thing you want to make
Speaker 2: sure of is that your materials are you know, have
Speaker 2: some efficacy. If you're working with explosives, I would not
Speaker 2: work with the cheap rubbers man. I would go Trojan.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just saying, And who knows, maybe they're
Speaker 2: subsidizing Trojan to some degree.
Speaker 5: Good, you have a fail safe measure. You're using nine
Speaker 5: of them. You can afford for two of them to
Speaker 5: have ten hoole leagues in them and go down. Be
Speaker 5: it practical here we got to do somebody's condoms. Hey,
Speaker 5: let's tournament in balloons. You got to give them credit
Speaker 5: for creativity.
Speaker 2: You can't see how this is a land affable thing
Speaker 2: to even concern yourself with. Even if let's just say,
Speaker 2: you know, the least of the problems is how many
Speaker 2: condoms Hamas got to make helium bombs out of them?
Speaker 2: I mean, really, you can't see that that's a minor
Speaker 2: issue that like is not worthy of.
Speaker 5: The issue came about when they decided to cut that.
Speaker 3: How could you cut these condoms to gouz that they
Speaker 3: need them?
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 3: The only I.
Speaker 5: Don't understand the left's fascination with giving out free condoms
Speaker 5: for everything. Schools.
Speaker 3: Just put them in all the health departments.
Speaker 5: If somebody wants a condom, there should be no reason
Speaker 5: that they can't find one for free.
Speaker 2: But the sad thing is I think they get a
Speaker 2: lot more mileage out of a bag of rice. And
Speaker 2: the other sad thing is there's actually no evidence to
Speaker 2: show that this stuff went to Hamas or even Palestine,
Speaker 2: like they're not even these.
Speaker 3: There videos out there. Okay, all right, So do you
Speaker 3: think it's just all made up? No?
Speaker 2: I think it's one of those cartoony things that is
Speaker 2: not of any great significance even if it was true,
Speaker 2: which it doesn't appear to be true.
Speaker 5: Great significance until you're talking about cutting government spending. Let's
Speaker 5: quit sending fifty one million dollars worth of condoms to
Speaker 5: the Middle East?
Speaker 2: How about to anywhere? I don't care where it goes.
Speaker 2: There's no need for this. But still, the point is
Speaker 2: that among the many things that this government pisses away
Speaker 2: money on, this would not be even near the top
Speaker 2: of my list for a major funding and be really
Speaker 2: dangerous stuff that's getting distributed. I mean, I'm thinking to myself,
Speaker 2: you know, the guns getting run into Mexico is much
Speaker 2: you know, remember the Fast and Furious or whatever it
Speaker 2: was they called that? What was it Fast and Furious?
Speaker 5: Was that the name of it that's when they were
Speaker 5: walking guns across the bord so that they could track them,
Speaker 5: to keep a trace on them to see where they
Speaker 5: end up. And they end up at a crime scene
Speaker 5: where a border officer was killed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, handing over guns to yeah.
Speaker 3: And the holder and all of them.
Speaker 5: Then nobody went to jail on that when a couple
Speaker 5: of guys got shifted around the FBI and the ATF
Speaker 5: and that was it and it went away.
Speaker 2: Well, I guarantee you there's a lot more fast and
Speaker 2: furious programs than there is major dangerous condom programs out there.
Speaker 2: You know, in our government waste list, I'm just saying.
Speaker 3: Band Paul has a list every year of all the
Speaker 3: pork that's out there. That's ridiculous.
Speaker 5: You know, they're checking the sexuality of common swamp news
Speaker 5: in Rhodesia.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay.
Speaker 5: This is just an example, and it's a good example
Speaker 5: because it's typical of.
Speaker 3: The crap that money just we spit.
Speaker 5: We blow so much money in aid to foreign countries.
Speaker 5: The fifty one million for condoms is a good example
Speaker 5: of the trivial crap that we waste fifty one million
Speaker 5: dollars on it. It's perfect for a news story, Yeah,
Speaker 5: because it's gonna catch everybody's attention.
Speaker 2: But I'd rather have ten of those condom programs than
Speaker 2: probably one of any of these other twenty thousand things
Speaker 2: that we're sending money, Like you're talking about where it's
Speaker 2: like we're going to test the mating habits of this
Speaker 2: creature where we can only prove there's two of them
Speaker 2: that actually exist, you know, these two mutations. We're going
Speaker 2: to follow them and see if they mate for the
Speaker 2: next five years. And they're giving out a million dollar
Speaker 2: grant for that, you know what I mean. There's freaking
Speaker 2: one hundred of those, you know that you can find
Speaker 2: with no problem. I'm so much less worried about the
Speaker 2: rubbers than I am about weapons, chemicals, you know, crazy
Speaker 2: stuff that we've allowed to happen. Oh, by the way,
Speaker 2: you know the Chinese lab thing, maybe it's a whole
Speaker 2: lot more legit than we thought, you know, or than
Speaker 2: we were allowed to think in public. Right, Remember, people
Speaker 2: like me were getting banned for even mentioning the Wuhan lab.
Speaker 2: You know, maybe there was actually a little more to
Speaker 2: it because we had an inside guy on that. Oops.
Speaker 5: Really, I mean, you know, see little thing on that
Speaker 5: you know back when COVID hit, we discussed it and
Speaker 5: I was talking about what was going on at University.
Speaker 3: Of North Carolina and the labs up there. Ralph Barrett, Right.
Speaker 5: That's why when Fauci got his pardon, Biden did the
Speaker 5: same thing he did with Hunter. He backdated it back
Speaker 5: to twenty fourteen. And that's when the Obama administration put
Speaker 5: a stop to any type of viral testing and.
Speaker 3: Or what they call it gain of function.
Speaker 5: They put a stop to all gain of function research
Speaker 5: on these viruses. So what happened was the Wuhan lady
Speaker 5: that ended up getting sick of disappearing.
Speaker 3: She was over here when they stopped the funding.
Speaker 5: She took the samples of viruses back to Wuhan, and
Speaker 5: then Echo Health Alliance who was in the group with
Speaker 5: Fauci and Barrick in his lab, and there was another lab.
Speaker 5: I want to say it was in Jersey, but there's
Speaker 5: another one in a college.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised to.
Speaker 5: Take money giving it to Echo Health Alliance, which turned
Speaker 5: around and gave it to Wuhan. That's all been documented.
Speaker 5: So they backdated Fauci's pardon to back then because in
Speaker 5: them funding it and getting around the cutoff here in
Speaker 5: the States, they could hold them accountable for it. There's
Speaker 5: no way in hell anybody is going to prove to
Speaker 5: me that this thing did not come from the Wuhan lab.
Speaker 5: They tried to file a patent on it, and they
Speaker 5: went to DARPA and said, we have this program. We
Speaker 5: want money to study this because we're able to do
Speaker 5: this with gain a function and DARPA turned them down.
Speaker 5: And that's when they cranked up the damn gas in
Speaker 5: Wuhan and said, Okay, if they're not going to fund it,
Speaker 5: we'll use the Echo Health Alliance to funnel the money
Speaker 5: through to get it to China. Right, that virus came
Speaker 5: out of that damn lab, but nobody there's no proof
Speaker 5: whatsoever that it ever jumped from one species to another
Speaker 5: and into humans.
Speaker 2: Now I'm not going with the wet market thing either,
Speaker 2: but wet markets are dangerous, but that's not what happened here.
Speaker 5: In the case of it coming that would be a
Speaker 5: case of it coming from one species and jumping usually
Speaker 5: don't jump direct. They have to go from the species
Speaker 5: that have it to a species that's more compatible to humans,
Speaker 5: and then from there it makes the jump to humans.
Speaker 3: You never get a direct jump, yeah, but from intermediary.
Speaker 2: But it does happen. I mean that intermediary could be
Speaker 2: a flea or a tick. I mean just saying, and
Speaker 2: so it's not that hard to have it happen.
Speaker 8: Now.
Speaker 2: The funny thing to me is and the reason why
Speaker 2: nobody is going to actually seriously pursue fauci is as follows,
Speaker 2: every part of the paradigm has their mits on him,
Speaker 2: their fingerprints on him. You know, he was Trump's guy.
Speaker 2: So not saying that Trump was knowledgeable, but during Trump's
Speaker 2: tenure he.
Speaker 5: Oh, he wasn't Trump's guy. When the virus broke, He's
Speaker 5: position at the UH for Allergies and whatever the sex
Speaker 5: of US Healthcare, Faucians already in place. So when it
Speaker 5: came out, Faucan became the spokesman because that was his
Speaker 5: job as the director of this of Center of Infectious Disease.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no kidding, I'm agreeing with you that what I'm
Speaker 2: saying is that you mean to tell me that he
Speaker 2: stopped his criminal activity when you know, Trump got in
Speaker 2: office and then restarted it when when Biden got in
Speaker 2: I don't think so, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: Oh, what I'm saying is he had been doing this
Speaker 5: since the Obama administration. Sure, I when virus hit, they
Speaker 5: have the head of a center for infectious disease, which
Speaker 5: is Fauci be the spokesman for it.
Speaker 2: Okay, but you got to go even you got to
Speaker 2: go even further than that, to be honest, right, because
Speaker 2: he's way back even before Obama, remember, because Fauci's been
Speaker 2: around and involved in all kinds of shady disease shit
Speaker 2: since the nineteen eighties.
Speaker 3: Sorry, go ahead, Yes, he's been there forever. That's what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. He's not Trump's guy.
Speaker 5: He is the government's guy. Yes, he's been in position
Speaker 5: running that thing back during the age crisis.
Speaker 2: Okay, But my point is not Okay, before then. I'm
Speaker 2: not saying Trump selected him. What I'm trying to say
Speaker 2: is that he's still there. In other words, he's still
Speaker 2: there and operating during the Trump administration with the Trump
Speaker 2: administration still there. So the point is that going back
Speaker 2: to I don't know, maybe uh hw Bush and then
Speaker 2: Clinton and then Bush and then you know what I'm mean.
Speaker 2: In other words, he's been there the whole time. Yeah. Good.
Speaker 5: To my point, I was only pointing out that he
Speaker 5: wasn't Trump's guy, He's his own guy. He's been in
Speaker 5: that position so long that I mean, through what five presidents.
Speaker 2: But he's guy, right.
Speaker 5: But what he was doing Obama in twenty fourteen, when
Speaker 5: they found out what happened with some of these other
Speaker 5: viruses and some of the outbreaks that they had, that's
Speaker 5: when he put a stop to all federal funding of
Speaker 5: no federal funding for gain of function research. So all
Speaker 5: Fauci did you know? Fauci was so ingrained with all
Speaker 5: these labs and things from over the years.
Speaker 3: He went through his crap.
Speaker 5: During the AIGE crisis when they were trying to come
Speaker 5: out with AIDS vaccines, he simply said, fine, you go
Speaker 5: back to China, take.
Speaker 3: The samples with you. We're going to get a hold
Speaker 3: of so and so. We're going to start.
Speaker 5: Sending him money. He'll get the money to you. I mean,
Speaker 5: it's like a Rico case. And it's been going on
Speaker 5: since then.
Speaker 3: So I pardoned him.
Speaker 5: He had to go back to that date of twenty fourteen,
Speaker 5: because that's when that is when what Fauci was doing
Speaker 5: became illegal uptil then it was legal. It became illegal
Speaker 5: in twenty fourteen. Okay, so going back to there, he
Speaker 5: thinks he's got him covered. The thing is, Fauci hasn't
Speaker 5: been accused of a crime. He hasn't been convicted of
Speaker 5: a crime. I don't see where.
Speaker 3: And I pointed this out on Facebook and in the
Speaker 3: room one time. If you go and get the Big
Speaker 3: Black Book of Communism, or going even Wikipedia and look
Speaker 3: at the number of deaths attributed to certain things, now
Speaker 3: I think holds the record.
Speaker 5: And then you've got Stalin, and then you've got Hitler, Fauchi.
Speaker 5: Hitler was accused of six million Jews. Auci's responsible for
Speaker 5: over seven million deaths. Well, my argument, he's got a
Speaker 5: bigger kill count than Hitler.
Speaker 2: Well, the best, the best kill count attributable to a
Speaker 2: single group, in my estimation, is the medical industrial complex,
Speaker 2: through medical misadventure, misdirection and poisoning, intentional and otherwise that
Speaker 2: they have done to people. Uh, you know, the the
Speaker 2: practice of medicine in the twentieth century has actually killed
Speaker 2: more people than all of America's wars combined, if you
Speaker 2: go numerically. In my estimation, this is my my supposition
Speaker 2: and bottom line on Fauci is I'm trying to make
Speaker 2: this one single point, and it's not going to be owned.
Speaker 2: Nobody's going to want to own this point, because that's
Speaker 2: the unfortunate position I'm in, is that this guy operated
Speaker 2: under both sides of the paradigm. He operated under both
Speaker 2: sides of the equation, and they can't give ownership of
Speaker 2: him and his activities, in my mind, to the Democrats alone.
Speaker 2: They can't give his you know, ownership of his criminal
Speaker 2: and horrible and immoral activity to just the Republicans. They
Speaker 2: can't do it either way because in my mind, they
Speaker 2: both have their fingerprints on them. This is just me.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm crazy, but look, we've gone pretty deep into
Speaker 2: the show, and I want to get to Danny, and
Speaker 2: we got another wireless caller and anybody else who wants
Speaker 2: to join us. I want to get him in because
Speaker 2: I'm sure they have thoughts and I'm sure they might
Speaker 2: have other things to bring up here today. So what
Speaker 2: do you say? You want to get to them? Or
Speaker 2: you got a couple more points you want to hit
Speaker 2: before we do it.
Speaker 3: No, let's let's get to them. I've kind of lost
Speaker 3: track of his Yeah, said this out and then we
Speaker 3: talk about it for ten minutes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm bad about that. I'm like, okay, let's break
Speaker 2: it up, you know, let's break it down. Let's break
Speaker 2: it down. I'm sorry, that's always my fault. But let's
Speaker 2: get to these guys and we'll get to some more quicker,
Speaker 2: more punch your points hopefully as we go, and I'll
Speaker 2: try not to slow things down. Danny. Danny, I think
Speaker 2: this is you on the phone right.
Speaker 8: It sure is how you do, and I'm glad to
Speaker 8: hear that you sound more ener, Jenny.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I finally got Yeah, I finally got my legs
Speaker 2: back under me a little bit, and we're gonna we're
Speaker 2: gonna get back to work here because I've been out
Speaker 2: and down way too long and I'm not even gonna
Speaker 2: go into the details anymore. It's been quite a battle
Speaker 2: with a variety of mystery illnesses. And that's that. So, Danny,
Speaker 2: how are you this week and what's on your mind?
Speaker 2: And are you observing some of the same things I'm
Speaker 2: observing because I got another thing to talk about on
Speaker 2: the news organization, which I finally figured out Maria Heller
Speaker 2: just really quick, Danny. And it's amazing because you're more
Speaker 2: of on the liberal side or the Democrat side of things.
Speaker 2: In my mind, I could be wrong about that, but
Speaker 2: that's you.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: And what I find amazing is that Maria Heller, who
Speaker 2: I talk to all the time, and I finally did
Speaker 2: a hell in high water with this week after Skip Too,
Speaker 2: which is unusual because I wasn't talking to anybody with
Speaker 2: energy really anyway, Maria has had this constant thing of
Speaker 2: Trump's people are starting to abandon him, and I say
Speaker 2: to her, how can you even say that he's gaining
Speaker 2: momentum among the general population. Among his own people, they're
Speaker 2: you know, ironclad, they're with him, and so far I
Speaker 2: see him actually gaining momentum among supporters in general. In
Speaker 2: the general population. I say all the time. It could
Speaker 2: because I live in Georgia. It could because generally I'm
Speaker 2: surrounded in the South. I don't know, but my general
Speaker 2: sense of things is that no matter what Trump does,
Speaker 2: he's gaining momentum. Whether I like it or not. Whether
Speaker 2: I think it's sane, irrational or not, is irrelevant. The
Speaker 2: truth is that he's gaining momentum so much so that
Speaker 2: even the corporate media has normalized a whole lot of
Speaker 2: things that they would have been bitching about for hours
Speaker 2: on end in the past. They're no longer doing that.
Speaker 2: They're trying to hold on tight. And oh, by the way,
Speaker 2: I'm going to apply for one of those press credentials
Speaker 2: because they're going to open up press credentials for the
Speaker 2: White House to podcasters and stuff. I'm applying just just
Speaker 2: so you guys know. And if I can get there,
Speaker 2: I'm going to figure out a way. I mean, somebody's
Speaker 2: going to have to give me a ride to DC.
Speaker 2: We're going. We're staying in a hotel room and hopefully
Speaker 2: I'll get some crowdfunding because I want to be in
Speaker 2: the White House press room if I can get there.
Speaker 2: But anyway, put that aside. Things are changing in weird
Speaker 2: ways all over the place. But one of the weirdest
Speaker 2: things is the supposedly anti Trump corporate media, whether you
Speaker 2: like it or not, or you recognize it or not,
Speaker 2: is folding in his favor. And it seems like the
Speaker 2: majority of the American public, at least the people that
Speaker 2: are making noise, are also folding in his favor. So
Speaker 2: I don't understand where Maria and a whole lot of
Speaker 2: these other people are getting. Oh his own people are
Speaker 2: starting to abandon them. They're starting to turn on them,
Speaker 2: they realize they've been had, and I'm like, no, they don't.
Speaker 2: He's gaining momentum in exactly the opposite direction. Well, I
Speaker 2: finally found the news outlet that she's listening to, and
Speaker 2: it's the Midas Group on like you know, on everything,
Speaker 2: podcasts and YouTube and everywhere. Right, the Midas Group has
Speaker 2: this idea, you know, they're they're doing the critique. They're
Speaker 2: hitting him hard and criticizing everything he says and does,
Speaker 2: and then putting out the idea that he's losing support.
Speaker 2: And outside of one poll recently, his popularity dipped the
Speaker 2: little you know, quite honestly, and I don't believe polls either.
Speaker 2: Generally speaking, I see overwhelmingly that he's gaining momentum in
Speaker 2: the American public, in the American psyche, in corporate, electronic
Speaker 2: and other media. The guy is like it or not,
Speaker 2: whether you think it's rational or sane or not, is
Speaker 2: gaining popularity, is gaining support, not losing it. That's my mind,
Speaker 2: and that's my mind versus Maria. And I keep trying
Speaker 2: to figure it out, and I finally figured it out.
Speaker 2: It's this very very weird fringe perspective out there from
Speaker 2: these people that are still actually anti Trump, uh and
Speaker 2: and are you know, basically they have a growing network,
Speaker 2: which by the way, features just a very quiet sideline.
Speaker 2: They actually have Michael Cohen's podcast as part of their network,
Speaker 2: so you know, the guy who was a Trump's former
Speaker 2: a fixer lawyer guy. But they're not basing their whole
Speaker 2: thing on him, they're doing active reporting against him. Yeah,
Speaker 2: good and Bannon.
Speaker 5: Came out and made some comments about Elon Musk and
Speaker 5: then so he helped that Elon Musk had too much
Speaker 5: power and he was going to see what he could
Speaker 5: do to, you know, knock him.
Speaker 3: Down a few So they've taken a few things said
Speaker 3: by people like that.
Speaker 5: And yeah, he may have lost some support of people
Speaker 5: who supported him in the past, but as people like
Speaker 5: Michael Cohen, so it.
Speaker 3: Doesn't really matter, right. You know, he did better in
Speaker 3: every demographic.
Speaker 5: He pulled in more higher numbers for most of demographics,
Speaker 5: including minorities, than anybody in a Republican has done since Reagan.
Speaker 5: So you know, he he he accomplished something with this election.
Speaker 5: He showed the Democrats it's.
Speaker 3: Not so much that it's not so much that people
Speaker 3: are for Trump.
Speaker 5: This election was a reflection that people are tired of
Speaker 5: the Democrat crap.
Speaker 3: Okay that we've put for the past four years. That's
Speaker 3: what That's what this election came down to.
Speaker 2: Agreed on the election. My point is that even since
Speaker 2: the election, the trend has continued in Trump's favor. It's
Speaker 2: beyond November that he is still by Jim.
Speaker 3: You're talking about the media.
Speaker 5: The problem is companies like CNN and MSNBC with whole
Speaker 5: hog everything we could do to go against Trump. The
Speaker 5: ones that are the worst of it right now are
Speaker 5: MSNBC and n PR. There's individuals on NPR that whenever
Speaker 5: they mentioned Trump, they have to mention that he's been
Speaker 5: convicted or uh, he has.
Speaker 3: And this is the funny thing.
Speaker 5: Most media it's against Trump, will do a story about
Speaker 5: Trump and point out, well.
Speaker 3: He has no evidence for this, but he said it anyway.
Speaker 5: You know, he's he's been convicted, blah blah blah, like
Speaker 5: this DEI thing. You know, has no evidence of it,
Speaker 5: but he makes a statement anyway. I never heard that
Speaker 5: with Democrats.
Speaker 2: You and I make this going to make this real
Speaker 2: clear here you and I diverge in an extreme sense.
Speaker 2: Here because to my mind, their whole whole hog against
Speaker 2: him was all bs because he was a content generator
Speaker 2: for years. Here now they have switched actually to normal.
Speaker 5: You can be a content generator, but what was the
Speaker 5: content that he was generating on MSNBC and CBS and NBC.
Speaker 5: It was all negative. They carried as much negative stuff
Speaker 5: as they could. So, yes, he was a content generator,
Speaker 5: and they loved it because he gave him a chance
Speaker 5: to come out and say all the things that they
Speaker 5: found wrong with him. Okay, he just got tired of
Speaker 5: that and they quit listening to it, and they've gone
Speaker 5: to alternative media to get their their positions. Fox News
Speaker 5: started going downhill during the Biden when when towards the
Speaker 5: end of Trump, Fox started losing viewers. Now Fox has
Speaker 5: more viewers because of the cycle. I mean, it's all cyclic,
Speaker 5: the Cycle book.
Speaker 3: You can watch it.
Speaker 5: You could watch the waves of things going up and
Speaker 5: down when it comes to viewership.
Speaker 3: The people have just gotten tired this.
Speaker 5: If nothing else, this last election settled in a lot
Speaker 5: of people's minds that they've been handed bullshit for the
Speaker 5: past ten years by the mainstream media, and it has
Speaker 5: allowed these other forms of media Axios, and they mentioned
Speaker 5: a couple other during the press conference the other day
Speaker 5: where they've issued credentials.
Speaker 3: It's because people are getting their their news from different sources,
Speaker 3: and it's a good thing.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 5: You've got people leaving established companies that they've been with
Speaker 5: for years to go to sub stack to put out
Speaker 5: their own stuff because they found out they have a
Speaker 5: way of doing it now and they can make it
Speaker 5: profitable for themselves.
Speaker 3: Don Lemon tried to do it and it didn't work.
Speaker 5: Don Lemon tried to work a deal with Musk and
Speaker 5: must found out how much a bullshit artist he was
Speaker 5: and nix the whole thing.
Speaker 3: So Lemon's, you know, left out in the cold.
Speaker 1: Are you on?
Speaker 9: You know me?
Speaker 5: Man A Costa just left CNN rather than take a
Speaker 5: midnight slot. He's going to try to do the same thing,
Speaker 5: Jake Tapper.
Speaker 8: In my view.
Speaker 2: In my view, what you have here, though, is you've
Speaker 2: bought into what I think is a gigantic scam because
Speaker 2: the reality is they were just after what was ratings
Speaker 2: and it worked for a little while, and now because
Speaker 2: popularity is shifting. I tell you, I'm watching this happen,
Speaker 2: they're giving legitimacy airtime to everything that if they really
Speaker 2: were against this guy, they would have continued in the
Speaker 2: other direction. It's a business thing, and my mind is
Speaker 2: that this was never really the truth. This was always
Speaker 2: the BS to give you the controlled opposition. That's why
Speaker 2: they infiltrated and co opted all of what was alternative media,
Speaker 2: because they turned it around and turned it into the
Speaker 2: Trump circus. And that's all there is. There is no
Speaker 2: alternative media now, okay. But the weird thing is these
Speaker 2: MITUS guys are actually on the side of going after
Speaker 2: him and attacking him for real, and they're pushing the
Speaker 2: idea that we're winning. We're actually you know, Trump is
Speaker 2: losing support, he's losing momentum, and I see zero evidence
Speaker 2: for that. So I'm just saying my point is different
Speaker 2: than yours. But Danny, please, I wanted to get to
Speaker 2: you next. I didn't want to have this. I mean,
Speaker 2: this is the old thing. I can't seem to get
Speaker 2: anybody to see my point of view because I'm crazy.
Speaker 2: I have a different point of view on this whole
Speaker 2: you know, false media paradigm. It's BS. It's very much
Speaker 2: like I see the two party system as one party.
Speaker 2: Nobody wants to go with me on that either. But Danny,
Speaker 2: by all means you had some things in mind, and
Speaker 2: we kept you on old a long time, so please
Speaker 2: go ahead.
Speaker 8: And yeah, yeah, Well, I think you both get some
Speaker 8: points to a right. I mean, it's the irregularity of
Speaker 8: the regular cycle or wed you go on cycles. Right now,
Speaker 8: we're still two weeks in, even though there's a honeymoon
Speaker 8: stage with a lot of people kind of wait and
Speaker 8: see attitude with balls and place. I will agree with
Speaker 8: a lot of your more mainstream media has been shell
Speaker 8: shock because you know the model of CNN and MSNBC,
Speaker 8: they kind of followed the Fox model kind of attacked
Speaker 8: and you know, throw anything out there and then get
Speaker 8: a narrative and get everybody worked up. And that didn't
Speaker 8: work out, and they're fighting for ratings. I mean there's
Speaker 8: there's business decisions, but I your first part of what
Speaker 8: you were talking about, ranting about some of the just
Speaker 8: some of the stuff coming out, they jump to administration,
Speaker 8: the talking points. I think it's a distraction. I mean
Speaker 8: I saw somebody do the math that the whole condom
Speaker 8: issue that would be two thousand condos per every palace
Speaker 8: in over fifteen years old I mean, it's just it's just,
Speaker 8: you know, I don't doubt that they sent them, but
Speaker 8: it's unless I see any evidence otherwise. But I mean,
Speaker 8: it's just it's just they're always throwing insane stuff, and
Speaker 8: that's what we're talking about. But we're not talking about that.
Speaker 8: There's children's star being and bombs keep flowing at a
Speaker 8: much higher cost of our tax dollars. But something that
Speaker 8: happened that I caught two weeks ago, it really reminded
Speaker 8: me of California conservative politics, and I'm going back to
Speaker 8: the seventies. And after I heard two quotes, one from
Speaker 8: Trump and then one from Mike Johnson, I also ran
Speaker 8: across an obituary of Rush Limbaugh's first attorney in California,
Speaker 8: who is a longtime friend and I have actually have
Speaker 8: a relationship with them, And it's kind of going back
Speaker 8: to seeing certain things evolved in some of the old arguments.
Speaker 8: But Trump went out there and he was talking about
Speaker 8: the fires and the water and a lot of outrageous
Speaker 8: stuff can but he's mentioned about protecting the delta smelt.
Speaker 2: Oh the smell.
Speaker 8: Smelt. You heard that, And Mike Johnson said the same
Speaker 8: talking point. Well, I'm very familiar with a lot of
Speaker 8: the watershes of central northern of all of California.
Speaker 2: You know, since you're in California and you're talking about
Speaker 2: these things just really quick, I was wondering if you
Speaker 2: noticed the Q drop this week, Uh that supposedly Trump
Speaker 2: is going to turn on the water in California, or
Speaker 2: he did turn on the water and he put out
Speaker 2: the fire's que put this Q dropout? Did you see that?
Speaker 8: I don't follow que, but I did. I did hear
Speaker 8: the whole. He did hear his statement about sending in
Speaker 8: the military one which never happened too. There was actually
Speaker 8: some federal water project that was shut down for three
Speaker 8: days for repairs, and then they turned it on. And
Speaker 8: Trump's you know, he's gonna take a victory of It's
Speaker 8: just it's just Trump being Trump. He just can say
Speaker 8: it and get away.
Speaker 2: With it, Okay. So he took credit. He took credit
Speaker 2: for turning on some sort of federal water reserve. I
Speaker 2: wasn't sure. I was asking you, because you're in California,
Speaker 2: about the story of what happened. Yeah.
Speaker 8: My daughter, who's way far more conservative than I am.
Speaker 8: She works for the water the waterboard right in California shorts.
Speaker 8: For now, she's works for a different apartment in the
Speaker 8: state of California. But I mean, if if she had
Speaker 8: any notion that Trump run in the military and turned
Speaker 8: on the water because they had to shut down which
Speaker 8: number one, she would be telling me all about it. Well,
Speaker 8: it's all made up. The dota smell is a real
Speaker 8: interesting issue because going back to Russia's attorney, I'm going
Speaker 8: back to when I was a child. I mean, I
Speaker 8: was like probably twelve weave old. Water is this has
Speaker 8: always been a big issue in California. You go back
Speaker 8: to watch the movie Chinatown. But down where I live
Speaker 8: here in the San Jaque in Sacramento Valley, there was
Speaker 8: an issue in the seventies because after Rayton got an office,
Speaker 8: Jerry Brown got in it. Prior to Jerry Brown's father,
Speaker 8: he did a lot of water projects in the state
Speaker 8: of California, and then there was one issue called the
Speaker 8: peripheral canal, and the peripheral canal was going to die.
Speaker 8: And there are already projects that were made that were
Speaker 8: constructed prior to that were very successful for farming, especially
Speaker 8: for farming. But the big issues they're trying to find
Speaker 8: a narrative to defeat it. One of the narratives all
Speaker 8: this water was going to go to southern California, which
Speaker 8: was mainly going to go to farming, to farmland. And
Speaker 8: I've always been the people where I come from. They'd
Speaker 8: probably punched him in the face for that. I was
Speaker 8: always for those water projects. Because that water is ninety
Speaker 8: nine percent going out to the ocean. We can divert
Speaker 8: some of that water to use the farmland where when
Speaker 8: we do have cycles of drought and rain, it's very
Speaker 8: productive and food is cheap. Everybody needs to eat. I
Speaker 8: see the importance of it. That's another part of it.
Speaker 8: But the interesting thing is is that there was a rally.
Speaker 8: I remember my father. There was a whole bunch of people.
Speaker 8: They were very conservative. They were fighting this whole peripheral
Speaker 8: canal to One of the people who emerged, if you know,
Speaker 8: the guy that had known him for a number of years,
Speaker 8: was this attorney who was rustling most attorneys who had
Speaker 8: a relationship. He was a nice guy, liked him. He
Speaker 8: was very conservative. He was kind of chemi clownish, but
Speaker 8: semi is serious. He if he was in a room,
Speaker 8: he was going to grab the mic, and you know,
Speaker 8: he was you know he was going to mention one
Speaker 8: of these types. And I remember my father having promised, well,
Speaker 8: he's definitely he's campaigning to become a judge, you know.
Speaker 8: I know that was my first knowledge of him, and
Speaker 8: ended up ended up. We went to the ended up
Speaker 8: going to the same church. We went to the same
Speaker 8: Catholic church in the small town there. Matter of fact,
Speaker 8: we electured. And this was in the eighties and the
Speaker 8: early nineties. I meaning that one Sunday he'd actually did
Speaker 8: the readings the Old and New Testament before the priest
Speaker 8: read the Gospel, and the next weekend I would do
Speaker 8: the readings. But the interesting thing about Chris and I
Speaker 8: used to laugh, I never would do this because he
Speaker 8: would have through the cow is that he would always
Speaker 8: try to sometimes if he had a conservative talking point,
Speaker 8: he would try to do a little mini sermon about
Speaker 8: the reading. It was almost comical what he was doing.
Speaker 2: One of those guys, Yeah, squeezes it into every conversation.
Speaker 2: So look, xact, Danny, I want to I want to
Speaker 2: get around a couple other callers. So is there a
Speaker 2: is there a big punchline to.
Speaker 8: This or about all my thoughts, all my thoughts that
Speaker 8: I'll go back to the Delta Smelt where I was
Speaker 8: going with them. The police bring other under other callers,
Speaker 8: and I appreciate you give.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to get to the Delta Smelt, but
Speaker 2: you were telling this fascinating story and I didn't want
Speaker 2: to cut you off, but I want to get around
Speaker 2: everybody before. All right, cool, Danny, hold on, and uh,
Speaker 2: I think we got Harlan here. I think that's Harlan.
Speaker 4: Ye without four d chest in their heart cast the
Speaker 4: first stone.
Speaker 2: There you go, it is Harlan. How you doing, man?
Speaker 2: How you doing? Sorry? I got callers backed up now
Speaker 2: I didn't have any and Danny started and now we
Speaker 2: got many, so go ahead.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'm doing all right. I've got several poems.
Speaker 4: I was trying to go down the lists quick as
Speaker 4: possible to kind of, you know, go along with some
Speaker 4: of the stuff that they was talking about. Yeah, locking
Speaker 4: up Sorris, what you was talking about own the people,
Speaker 4: you know, back in off of Trump. Well, I won't
Speaker 4: say that. That is onees and that's the mightiest Touch network.
Speaker 4: I believe you're talking about it, and they are far left.
Speaker 2: That's it, you know, I mean, if.
Speaker 4: Trump come out and cheered cancer. If you know, I
Speaker 4: mean Trump was fairly to the left yourself. But if
Speaker 4: he pulled up, if he had the Secret Service, go
Speaker 4: get every one of those hosts, bring them to the
Speaker 4: White House, and him saying, you write my policy. You know,
Speaker 4: whatever you say, I'll do everything I can to get
Speaker 4: it done. He can swap to a Democrat, and I
Speaker 4: believe they'd still be bitching and complaining about him calling
Speaker 4: him race.
Speaker 2: Absolutely sure, now you're on correct about them, Yes, go ahead.
Speaker 4: Well with that, Ben said, And I'm not saying everything
Speaker 4: that they say is completely you know, stupid or a liar.
Speaker 4: You know, it's this propaganda. But with that being said,
Speaker 4: I watched a lot of the comments on Twitter. It
Speaker 4: was like finding you know, a you know, internet porn
Speaker 4: for the first time, just watching all these people that
Speaker 4: was given and legitimate, fact based criticism from probably a
Speaker 4: couple of weeks after the election to probably and I'm
Speaker 4: not saying that it's still not going on, but since
Speaker 4: Elon's kind of calmed down on the you know, the
Speaker 4: screw you in the face, you know comments and all
Speaker 4: these these a gimmicks and you know, so forth and
Speaker 4: so on, it you don't see it as much as
Speaker 4: what you was. But I sat and watched for hours
Speaker 4: every day and I shared you know, quite a bit
Speaker 4: of this on Twitter, but I watched for hours. When
Speaker 4: you see somebody give criticism or say no, I didn't
Speaker 4: vote this, well when you went and clicked on it, well,
Speaker 4: it wasn't somebody like back in twenty seventeen that you
Speaker 4: could tell they was as far left Nutter, you know,
Speaker 4: on average as they could be. These people had maga
Speaker 4: all over their profiles, Magaga in their pictures, Maga, Maga, magga.
Speaker 4: So I would say that there is there's something legitimate
Speaker 4: to what those folks are saying. I'm not saying the
Speaker 4: blowing and complete out of proportion. And I also think
Speaker 4: that's where you know they've come in hitting it pretty hard.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: It's also you know, criticism, you know some of his
Speaker 4: cabinet pics and some of the lower cabinet picks, especially
Speaker 4: you know in the health positions. You know, that was
Speaker 4: all you know, certified Javis it sam like. But I
Speaker 4: will say to the think there's something other too.
Speaker 2: That really okay, because I'm taking it as you know,
Speaker 2: they have some legitimate criticisms, but then they follow it
Speaker 2: up with Trump is losing support and I'm going where
Speaker 2: I don't see it, and maybe they are seeing something
Speaker 2: that I don't. And fine, I mean there's like thirty
Speaker 2: talk shows on this network. You know I'm exaggerating here.
Speaker 2: Here's probably like ten. But either way, I mean it's
Speaker 2: a network people again that does include Michael Cohen if
Speaker 2: I remember, right, and uh, I'll go find the link.
Speaker 2: But I mean, to me, it's like this is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, uh but but to me it's if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 4: but there's this this left wing guy that lives there
Speaker 4: in the site well, you know, right up the road
Speaker 4: from me, and he's basically, you know, seems like some
Speaker 4: of the left wing version of me. His mate Tennessee Brandough.
Speaker 4: I like love his stuff. You know, there's a lot
Speaker 4: of it that I say, he's just kicking ships, but
Speaker 4: you know there's a lot of stuff. You know, he's
Speaker 4: rootying his hearts in the right spot, but you know
Speaker 4: he will push the you know, the problem and if
Speaker 4: there's a lot of people on the right, you know,
Speaker 4: does you know the same thing. But one more thing
Speaker 4: I want to make sure to put in here is
Speaker 4: I think this heavy hitting trying like don Jeffery said
Speaker 4: last week he'd done more there in a week, you know,
Speaker 4: of trying to keep promises. Then he did the whole
Speaker 4: four years that he was there beforeward. But I think
Speaker 4: some of the criticism has kind of you know, kicked
Speaker 4: up in gear quicker than what he probably would have No, lay.
Speaker 2: No, I look, I have to admit that. Yeah, when
Speaker 2: it when it comes down to him following through on
Speaker 2: some of his campaign promises. He did follow through on some,
Speaker 2: and he is feigning to follow through on others like
Speaker 2: the JFK RFK MLK you know, executive order. Uh, it's
Speaker 2: not really what people are saying. It is on either
Speaker 2: side of the equation. They're not recognizing the language how
Speaker 2: this is actually working, and everybody's doing the hopium dance,
Speaker 2: you know where it's like, well, I'm hoping that he's
Speaker 2: going to fail because he's a pull of crap and
Speaker 2: they're going with good points on that, and then there's
Speaker 2: other people going, well, I'm hoping he's going to follow
Speaker 2: through on this, and they're going with some good possibility
Speaker 2: points on that, and it's like it's like a roar
Speaker 2: shock test, see what you want to see out of league,
Speaker 2: But you know.
Speaker 1: Why.
Speaker 4: I mean, I am, you know, one of the people
Speaker 4: that's like, you know, I'm not gonna sit here and
Speaker 4: be one of these complex shit eaters. If he does
Speaker 4: something good, I'm not gonna say, well, well that nothing,
Speaker 4: blah blah blah. But you know, I've seen a lot
Speaker 4: of stuff already that I figures far for the course.
Speaker 4: But as much positive we can get out of him,
Speaker 4: I'm awful. I mean, I'm open to changing my opinion.
Speaker 4: I don't think that, you know, I'm I'm gonna be
Speaker 4: getting you know, myga hat anytime soon. But you know,
Speaker 4: I hope we can get something good at him. Hell,
Speaker 4: I hope we'd get something good out of Obama, I
Speaker 4: mean Biden. I mean, you know, two wicks you could
Speaker 4: see you know, you might as well not even hope
Speaker 4: friends thing, And well four years later, I wasn't wrong
Speaker 4: on that. But I mean, I hope we can get
Speaker 4: something good out of him. But there is something to
Speaker 4: what you're saying. I've seen this when they give him
Speaker 4: the town hall seeing and they turned his Facebook back
Speaker 4: on again. Know, I mean, it's kind of you know,
Speaker 4: I didn't think that he could win a couple of
Speaker 4: states and the overwhelming numbers, that you said it months
Speaker 4: ago that you thought that he was going to be
Speaker 4: the next one, that he was quote selected. And there's
Speaker 4: a lot of things, you know, caunterfiling in that category.
Speaker 4: You know the force you in that direction.
Speaker 2: There you go, So, Arlen, any other points you want
Speaker 2: to get to, because I know Jimmy James is waiting
Speaker 2: on the line a couple other people too. I want
Speaker 2: to get to everybody if we can.
Speaker 4: Uh, well, you know maybe sometime, you know, tonight, I've
Speaker 4: probably been on the listening for about thirty five minutes.
Speaker 4: I kind of like to have your opinion on this
Speaker 4: new JFK stuff. And if anybody's got anything, you know,
Speaker 4: to say about the plane and helicopter crash up in DC, well.
Speaker 2: I'll leave the plane in helicopter crash there anybody else
Speaker 2: who wants to grab it the JFK thing, I say, look,
Speaker 2: you got to wait and see, because it looks like
Speaker 2: to me there is enough loopholes in there that we
Speaker 2: can have just to repeat where he basically says, look,
Speaker 2: I did what I could and we get nothing accomplished.
Speaker 2: And that's even looking at the minimum possibility of maybe
Speaker 2: getting the ARRB stuff out there. Finally, that's not even
Speaker 2: the rest of the sentiment which a lot of people
Speaker 2: have run with that he wants transparency. He hasn't provided
Speaker 2: the tools or the demands that would be necessary to
Speaker 2: get that done. But does it mean now that all
Speaker 2: the people he put in place couldn't get it done.
Speaker 2: I don't know. This is this is a new situation
Speaker 2: where things could go.
Speaker 4: In And one more yeah, I did listen to a
Speaker 4: video of Piers Morgan a few days ago. It was
Speaker 4: about thirty five match long. He had the Michael Franz
Speaker 4: Asia believe his name, you know, the mobster and everybody
Speaker 4: says on YouTube and one JFK researcher I can't remember's name,
Speaker 4: you would probably know him seeing him and a guy
Speaker 4: named Mike Baker, and it seemed like Mike Baker was
Speaker 4: something you know that always you know, it's he used
Speaker 4: to be see I d you know, everything's finding Dandy
Speaker 4: and blah blah blah, and Oswald could have did all this,
Speaker 4: but that that video was on YouTube and it was
Speaker 4: pretty good, and I know Jimmy's probably fared up and out.
Speaker 4: As I mentioned something other about the crash, I will
Speaker 4: say this, these left wing n others are trunning in
Speaker 4: the comments everywhere, trying to blame out on Trump. I mean,
Speaker 4: there's a lot of stuff you can blame Trump for,
Speaker 4: but everything can't. They just thought, yeah, you know, and
Speaker 4: I don't see how in the hell he could have
Speaker 4: done anything, and he just been he's been there to
Speaker 4: less than two weeks and they're blaming that on him.
Speaker 4: I think that's just total just waitful, just being shit
Speaker 4: aiders and just looking for something other, you know, some
Speaker 4: kind of just something to throwback.
Speaker 2: Well, ultimately, I think you don't know who to blame
Speaker 2: for the plan. But I think at the end end
Speaker 2: of the day, there's no way to blame Trump for it.
Speaker 2: If that's what people are doing, that's just stupid.
Speaker 4: But you can go ahead and hand it over to Jimmy.
Speaker 2: I'll think, listen, excellent, Well, hang on, let's get over
Speaker 2: to Jimmy James. See what he wants to add in here.
Speaker 2: But again, I say, the plane crash not his fault.
Speaker 2: I mean, you want to talk about he's got you know,
Speaker 2: no FAA guy here or whatever. He fired a guy. Still,
Speaker 2: I say that comes down to an operational issue, and
Speaker 2: I think the facts are not even close to known.
Speaker 2: You know this this These things hit the water and
Speaker 2: and nobody knows what really happened for a while. I
Speaker 2: think that's normal. It shouldn't take years for them to
Speaker 2: figure it out. But you're not going to know it instantaneously.
Speaker 2: You know, people are used to instant gratification. You're not
Speaker 2: going to know it. And pointing the finger of Trump
Speaker 2: on this is not good. It's just stupid. It just
Speaker 2: points to you. You just want to point a finger
Speaker 2: at somebody. Uh, And I wouldn't do that, even to
Speaker 2: him anyways. I see we can get Jimmy on Jimmy
Speaker 2: can you hear me? Yes?
Speaker 10: Can you hear me? I?
Speaker 2: Sure again? So the floor is yours, sir.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 10: Well, we've come a long long way. On the show,
Speaker 10: lots of topics were broached.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, what do you got?
Speaker 10: Well, I wanted to get into I wanted more information
Speaker 10: on that JFK related tape that your time out in
Speaker 10: the beginning. But if there's another guy waiting, I might
Speaker 10: as well get to them first. Well, no, one hangs up.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what. It's no big deal. Everybody
Speaker 2: in order. People have come and gone already off of
Speaker 2: the line on the line, so it is what it is.
Speaker 2: I'm going to get back around to Danny at some
Speaker 2: point too, but I'll get you the link to this
Speaker 2: beard alleged tape. Now, again, I don't necessarily claim this
Speaker 2: is authentic or anything else. It is legendarily. It was
Speaker 2: described by Billy Celesties years ago, but was supposedly literally
Speaker 2: buried in a hole somewhere and probably would never see
Speaker 2: the light of day. And suddenly this guy's got it
Speaker 2: up on Instagram, and I'm just saying it's a weird tape.
Speaker 2: If somebody could authenticate this, this throws a weird wrench
Speaker 2: into certain things and makes it seem like Cliff Carter
Speaker 2: thought that mack Wallace was dispatched to kill JFK, which
Speaker 2: would be very weird. But I don't know if that
Speaker 2: means anything directly evidentiary. You know, would Cliff Carter have
Speaker 2: known about that directly? He should have been in the network.
Speaker 2: But then again, Cliff Carter was all kinds of wanting
Speaker 2: to point dirty sticks of JFK at certain points in
Speaker 2: private conversations because he knew he had been putting jeopardy,
Speaker 2: let's say, by LBJ and his activities and his criminal networking.
Speaker 2: So I don't know what to make of it, even
Speaker 2: if it is legit, and I'm not saying it's legit,
Speaker 2: but I put the link in the room. If you
Speaker 2: want to investigate it yourself, yeah.
Speaker 10: I would look, I am going to listen to that.
Speaker 10: I mean, I've already heard like a two hour phone
Speaker 10: call between almost all the people you mentioned in the
Speaker 10: LBJ having a legal jam session. I wonder if that
Speaker 10: someone didn't just take some of the audio from that
Speaker 10: monkey with it. Well, can I just think it's a
Speaker 10: bunch of horseship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, generally speaking, I would default to you know, the
Speaker 2: LBJ did a thing is no good. But the problem
Speaker 2: is if this is Cliff Carter speaking to Billy Celesties,
Speaker 2: He's saying some pretty damning things and she's having a
Speaker 2: private conversation with another you know, dirty dealer in the situation.
Speaker 2: I mean, Celestis was uh, you know, a con man
Speaker 2: of various attributes and definitely seemed to have some inside
Speaker 2: knowledge about some of the well the murders that that
Speaker 2: might have been committed at the behest Or in the
Speaker 2: name of Lyndon Baines Johnson, which you know, as you
Speaker 2: well know that that whole thing about that uh you
Speaker 2: know that testimony he gave where he lists all these
Speaker 2: people that supposedly LBJ had killed, right, including his own sister,
Speaker 2: including uh, you know, like I said that Henry Marshall,
Speaker 2: the agriculture guy, all these different people and I and I.
Speaker 2: The Henry Marshall thing, as you well know, is that
Speaker 2: famous case that Mac Wallace was let go on, right,
Speaker 2: you know, plus the the other thing where mac Wallace
Speaker 2: was involved in the murder of that golf pro which
Speaker 2: was connected to Joe Sepha Johnson, and it's all weird
Speaker 2: nexus that opens up. But he literally says on this tape,
Speaker 2: if it is indeed him, that he's got a problem
Speaker 2: with Lyndon, who was still alive at the time the
Speaker 2: tape was made, that you know, I can't believe that
Speaker 2: he sent him to kill he sent Mac to kill
Speaker 2: the president. So you know, it's pretty wild statement to
Speaker 2: be making. I'm not saying anything else about it except
Speaker 2: that here's this piece of audio that somebody alleges is
Speaker 2: a confession from one of Johnson's inside people. That's all.
Speaker 10: Man, man, that's so well, it's been put force and
Speaker 10: we'll have to deal with it. Rick, did you get
Speaker 10: that little stippet of that David Ferry audio I sent
Speaker 10: you that was a few minutes long, a different audio
Speaker 10: than the other known one.
Speaker 2: Uh No, I meant to actually right back to you
Speaker 2: and ask you to he send it because I don't
Speaker 2: have the audio clip. I have the text that you
Speaker 2: sent me, but not the audio clip.
Speaker 10: Away sent it. It's one thing it does. This is
Speaker 10: from the late sixties. One thing it does is absolutely
Speaker 10: verified that the other tape was indeed David Ferry. Some
Speaker 10: people were even denying that, but absolutely was, because the
Speaker 10: voices are the same. It's interesting to hear him scared,
Speaker 10: he's in a panic that tape from the early sixties.
Speaker 10: You know, everyone talks about how different he sounded than
Speaker 10: what they expected. They said, well, he sounds authoritative, he
Speaker 10: sounds like, you know, nothing like Joe Peshi. And then
Speaker 10: the difference of him speaking during the garrison prove you
Speaker 10: could tell the man was scared, he was frantic, he
Speaker 10: was panicked. It's just interesting. I already send it to you.
Speaker 10: It's kind of interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, please do. David Ferry died in sixty seven, right
Speaker 2: early sixty seven, So I mean when you look back
Speaker 2: at the very few audio recordings I've ever heard of him,
Speaker 2: and you ask people who've actually, you know, knew the guy,
Speaker 2: they would tell you that, you know, he was definitely
Speaker 2: given to emotional outbursts and things, so you never knew
Speaker 2: what you were going to get as far as the
Speaker 2: way he might sound on a tape, because I've asked
Speaker 2: people about that. But I don't know what to make
Speaker 2: of this audio until I hear it that you sent me. Obviously,
Speaker 2: but I did, I didn't get the audio, so yeah,
Speaker 2: please resend it. Sometimes I don't know. Attachments don't come
Speaker 2: in my emails. I don't know what's going on there,
Speaker 2: but you know, welcome to google Land. Anything else you
Speaker 2: want to add there. Jimmy Well, I was.
Speaker 10: Listening to everyone's Trump analysish I'd say, not even two
Speaker 10: weeks in, I'm impressed before he actually started doing anything.
Speaker 10: I refuse to sing his praises per se, as I said,
Speaker 10: I said, I'll have to see so far, so good.
Speaker 10: The polar opposite to Biden. Obviously he's pretty hands on.
Speaker 10: God knows he has a lot of energy. We'll see,
Speaker 10: you know, like I said, six months if I'll hear
Speaker 10: a lot more about JFK documents. Well, you'll see just
Speaker 10: how you call me a Trump lover. We'll see in
Speaker 10: six months how much love there is if things aren't
Speaker 10: done the way they ought to be done.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll be impressed if anybody actually turns on him,
Speaker 2: because I have just seen people, not necessarily you, but
Speaker 2: people in general, have just done nothing but make excuses
Speaker 2: for everything he's done. As far as I'm concerned, even
Speaker 2: when it's something that they care about, they have basically
Speaker 2: turned around and made excuses or contorted, you know, in
Speaker 2: one way or another to twist it around like, well,
Speaker 2: that's not really his fault because you know whatever, that's
Speaker 2: what they've usually done. So I'll be impressed to see
Speaker 2: anybody actually change an opinion based on you know what,
Speaker 2: this guy didn't follow through on X y Z, you know,
Speaker 2: and if he does, then he does. I mean, you
Speaker 2: got to you gotta give credit where credit's due. I'm
Speaker 2: not going to deny reality. If he actually gets things done, great,
Speaker 2: We're clearly not going to see grocery prices stop. We're
Speaker 2: clearly not going to see you know, the Ukraine situation
Speaker 2: instantly ended because that didn't happen. But you know, but
Speaker 2: these were things that you had to be realistic about
Speaker 2: to begin with, as far as I'm concerned. So, you know,
Speaker 2: was he going to be able to stop the war
Speaker 2: in Ukraine overnight? I don't see how that was possible
Speaker 2: to begin with. But he did make that promise too.
Speaker 2: So let's see. He says he's got the solution, you know,
Speaker 2: for the Palestinian thing. He's going to send him to
Speaker 2: what Egypt and Jordan? Right? I think he said they're
Speaker 2: going to take these guys from there and we're going
Speaker 2: to clear it out, and we'll see if that happens,
Speaker 2: you know. But again I got that we'll see attitude
Speaker 2: here and JFK stuff. I can see a lot of
Speaker 2: holes there that all these intelligence community worms can wriggle through.
Speaker 2: Let's see if they do.
Speaker 10: Because that the Executive A Order looked fine and dandy,
Speaker 10: right till I got to the last paragraph to started
Speaker 10: reading all the little footnotes, this and this exclusion, this
Speaker 10: and that exclusion, blah blah blah. I was like, well,
Speaker 10: clearly Trump didn't write this thing. This needs to be written.
Speaker 10: But in fact, it doesn't even matter how the thing's written.
Speaker 10: It's all gonna depend on him pushing for those documents
Speaker 10: to be released. He'll either do it or not.
Speaker 2: Well, what did I say? You know his new guys,
Speaker 2: whatever you think of them, right, it's going to be
Speaker 2: up to them to actually enact this stuff, right. So,
Speaker 2: you know, his new guys, whether they're crazy, unconventional, they
Speaker 2: don't know how things work or they do, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: If they start pushing things the right way and get
Speaker 2: the right people on their team, then they'll accomplish this stuff. Right.
Speaker 2: Because as far as I was always told, well, the
Speaker 2: president has the right to declassify anything he wants. He
Speaker 2: could always go that route, couldn't he. So boom, get
Speaker 2: it done or don't you know? Yeah there you Yeah, I.
Speaker 10: Get to deal with the other two cases. But JFK,
Speaker 10: I didn't even see a need for no two week
Speaker 10: wait to come up with a scheme. What are you
Speaker 10: talking about. There's a scheme put in place in the
Speaker 10: early nineties, Now do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I said. And as far as the
Speaker 2: MLK and RFK thing go, though, there's no teeth to it,
Speaker 2: there's no like you know, this is how because when
Speaker 2: you lay these things out, Jimmy, you know you got
Speaker 2: to give directions it's got to get done this way
Speaker 2: or by this person, and he just generally says, well,
Speaker 2: I think it's time that people know these things. But
Speaker 2: that's real general kind of you know, that's a nice
Speaker 2: sentiment in all. But you didn't give an order, did you.
Speaker 2: You gave a statement, a sentiment, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And you know he didn't write this up because it
Speaker 2: would have been a lot simpler.
Speaker 10: Work, right, ceremonial Like, yes, I wish this would happen.
Speaker 10: It's gonna have to come down to like RFK Junior.
Speaker 10: I think I hope he could stick in there and
Speaker 10: see this thing through, at least as far as the records.
Speaker 2: Because wouldn't it be nice if we actually got transparency?
Speaker 2: I mean I would have to change a whole lot
Speaker 2: of my opinion about Trump if he brought us into
Speaker 2: an age of actual transparency, you know, because this is
Speaker 2: one of my key issues with this government. No transparency,
Speaker 2: the fact that they lie to us, the fact that
Speaker 2: they continuously withhold information that should be in our hands.
Speaker 2: This is one of my How can I turn around
Speaker 2: and say the guy who gave that to me is
Speaker 2: all bad?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 11: Yeah?
Speaker 10: I mean, what can you do. These guys, There's no
Speaker 10: one on earth that I'm going to go with one
Speaker 10: hundred percent. But if I can agree with them sixty
Speaker 10: percent of the time, I guess not bad.
Speaker 2: All right, me, hang on, let's see if we can
Speaker 2: get back around to everybody before I go to Danny
Speaker 2: real fast, b Pete, do you want to drop in anything?
Speaker 2: Maybe we should take a quick break, get one break
Speaker 2: in at least during let me see what time is
Speaker 2: it anyway, Yeah, get one quick break in and then
Speaker 2: try and get everybody back in on the calls. What
Speaker 2: do you think?
Speaker 5: Yeah, in reference to the JFK thing, I think it's
Speaker 5: just gonna be a case of okay, let's hurry up
Speaker 5: and wait.
Speaker 3: You know, it's like being in the army. We're just
Speaker 3: gonna wait and see what comes out of it. You see,
Speaker 3: if Trump stands by his promise, right, I.
Speaker 2: Mean, if twenty seventeen is an indicator, though, we're gonna
Speaker 2: get you know bs, and you know it's gonna be
Speaker 2: like hanging out the red you know, the red cape
Speaker 2: in front of the bull. Right, come on, come on,
Speaker 2: come on, Ola, you know what I mean. That's pretty
Speaker 2: much what he did to was last time. I mean,
Speaker 2: I've characterized it this way. Trump kicked the can down
Speaker 2: the road, and then the Biden people tried to remove
Speaker 2: the can from the road regarding this, and that's what
Speaker 2: we got so far, Okay, in this almost it's going
Speaker 2: to be nearly ten years now, you know, eight years
Speaker 2: anyway of anticipation, because we were waiting for this stuff
Speaker 2: since the nineties. You recall, I'm sure, be Pete, the
Speaker 2: refrain from everybody twenty seventeen when it comes, you know, good.
Speaker 3: Trump's executive order.
Speaker 5: I thought it was nice he gave the pen that
Speaker 5: he used to sign the executive order to our kids.
Speaker 2: Sure.
Speaker 5: What I find fascinating is the way the Kennedy family
Speaker 5: is reacting to it, saying on our string and bloody
Speaker 5: murder about releasing anything. And I'm sitting there thinking, you know,
Speaker 5: just because they're family members, who the hell gives them
Speaker 5: the right to tell the rest of the nation. No,
Speaker 5: you don't deserve to know what went on.
Speaker 3: It just kills me.
Speaker 2: That's always been a bizarre point for me, b Pete,
Speaker 2: is the resistance from the Kennedy family to allow for
Speaker 2: a lot of releases or new information or I mean,
Speaker 2: for God's sake, even taped interviews with you know, intimate
Speaker 2: interviews with Jackie. Oh, they have withheld you know.
Speaker 4: What I mean?
Speaker 5: Uh, I wonder if the theory out there that Jackie
Speaker 5: knocked him off for running around behind his back is
Speaker 5: actually true. I mean, I can't imagine the Kennedy's thinking
Speaker 5: that they are so privileged that they can hold up
Speaker 5: information from I mean, the greatest unsolved murderer in the
Speaker 5: history of the United States.
Speaker 2: Yeah. See. Now, the only addendum I would add there
Speaker 2: is that I am less likely to believe the scorned
Speaker 2: woman theory than I am to believe that somehow his brother,
Speaker 2: in one way or another, either directly or indirectly, caused
Speaker 2: this circumstance to occur. If he's somehow responsible, they may
Speaker 2: not want this situation. Let's just say he did something
Speaker 2: that really did cause his brother to get killed. That
Speaker 2: would be a reason for the Kennedy family to want
Speaker 2: to keep it covered up. And then again, maybe there's
Speaker 2: something ugly are there that we don't know about that
Speaker 2: went on that you know, you'd have to pen on
Speaker 2: the Kennedys. Sorry God, think of any.
Speaker 3: Other murder case in the history of the United States.
Speaker 5: I can't think of one where the family had this
Speaker 5: much influence on information being released, or a murder that
Speaker 5: happened in Dallas.
Speaker 3: I mean, what was even in his home state?
Speaker 5: You know, any other murder case out there, they put
Speaker 5: out what they can. I mean there's an active investigation. Yes,
Speaker 5: they don't let certain things out because there's things that
Speaker 5: only the perpetrator may have knowledge of, and it helps
Speaker 5: them capture somebody. But in this case, anybody that was
Speaker 5: involved in it, there's got to be just a handful
Speaker 5: of people left. The rest of them have got to
Speaker 5: be dead, right, So what is it that the Kennedys
Speaker 5: think that they are so special that they can keep
Speaker 5: government information? This is government information, government of the United States.
Speaker 5: Where they get off thinking that they can control the
Speaker 5: release of this shit. I'd love to have a talk
Speaker 5: with Caroline Kennedy for about thirty minutes and tell her
Speaker 5: exactly what I think of her privileged ask.
Speaker 2: Well, even worse than that, in my opinion, is the
Speaker 2: fact that not only is there this family privilege, so
Speaker 2: to speak, but sadly we have to face the fact
Speaker 2: that this is the only true crime murder case I've
Speaker 2: ever seen in any place at any time, where the
Speaker 2: suspect pool never narrows. In all other cases, they narrow
Speaker 2: it over time, new technology, new information, It narrows over time.
Speaker 2: You eliminate people. This thing intentionally, it seems to me,
Speaker 2: is constantly expanding its universe of suspects and suspect organizations,
Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. Anyway, let's take that break and
Speaker 2: come back after this and get back around to everybody's
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Speaker 3: Truth about the JAFA assassination.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, what do you want to know Judy.
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Speaker 2: Really, I imagine I could claim I have four wheels.
Speaker 2: It doesn't make me a wagon.
Speaker 3: But okay, Oswald was on the building and I'm trying
Speaker 3: to prevent the murder of John Kennedy.
Speaker 10: Come on now, has a real effort on the day
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Speaker 2: So I'm not even gonna bother to give out the
Speaker 2: phone number because we're gonna get right to it and
Speaker 2: finish up with the callers. Here on a Friday night,
Speaker 2: live Friarsday night, and here we go. It is what
Speaker 2: it is, and welcome to it. Betpte. Anything you want
Speaker 2: to say before we get back to the callers.
Speaker 3: No, no, let's go ahead and bring them back. We
Speaker 3: don't have a lot of time left.
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, so we got let's see. First, up is
Speaker 2: Danny in excuse me in order, I'm having these hiccup
Speaker 2: issues anyway, Danny, you want to tell us about that smell?
Speaker 8: Go ahead, man, Yeah, I'll get to the smell. I'll
Speaker 8: try to wrap up without going too much into personal stories. Okay.
Speaker 8: After the Crypheral Canal was defeated in the seventies, then
Speaker 8: then another water project that came up was the Oudern Dam,
Speaker 8: which was kind of east of Sacramento. Water is a
Speaker 8: huge issue that area is plaster in Eldorada County, and
Speaker 8: I guarantee it's far more conservative in the metro areas
Speaker 8: of some parts of California. But in the sixties they
Speaker 8: had a lot of retro fifteen laws due to earthquake peers.
Speaker 8: Matter of fact, I they tore down a high high school,
Speaker 8: three store high school in the town I lived in
Speaker 8: because it was considered not safe for earthquakes. Well, the
Speaker 8: folks there didn't want the damn in their backyards, so
Speaker 8: they got on board with the earthquake laws to stop
Speaker 8: that damby and built. But in the area I grew up,
Speaker 8: the farming community that was quite conservative. All these farmers
Speaker 8: and the citizens had bumper stickers that said build it,
Speaker 8: damn it.
Speaker 2: Okay, after that was.
Speaker 8: Defeated, they put in they wanted to build these tunnels.
Speaker 8: It was another peripheral canal basically from the seventies. And
Speaker 8: this fight's been going on fifty years of lawsuits. All
Speaker 8: those people that wanted to build it, damn it because
Speaker 8: in his importance of water and the need for it
Speaker 8: for farming and agriculture and you know, residents, they'd got
Speaker 8: all kinds of stopped, you know, saved the delta and
Speaker 8: what happened was is the small amount of conservative and
Speaker 8: locals not in my backyard. They had to go to
Speaker 8: a lot of the environmentalists because you had the Wild
Speaker 8: Species Act and one of the issues was the delta smelt.
Speaker 8: So the delta smelt would have been probably extinct, but
Speaker 8: because of the Environmental Species Act, that saved the smell.
Speaker 8: But they used those laws to stop the tunnels being built.
Speaker 8: Now you go one hundred miles south of where that
Speaker 8: area is where the delta smelt, where the tunnels are,
Speaker 8: You've got farmers there that because when we were in
Speaker 8: a seven year drought, they literally couldn't get enough water
Speaker 8: for their orchards and their farms. So I mean, we
Speaker 8: got all these sucking out to bring it up to speed.
Speaker 8: Donald Trump signed an executive order a call them for
Speaker 8: an energy emergency, and I read through it. It was
Speaker 8: two weeks ago. There was about five environmental law that
Speaker 8: were connected to especially to the California in the western
Speaker 8: western west coast, and there was a lot of language
Speaker 8: in there that talked about easy emminent to name, and
Speaker 8: it was some military like a military and I can't
Speaker 8: quote it off the top of my head. So what
Speaker 8: I find interesting is that then it becomes not in
Speaker 8: my backyard. You'll use whatever you can't tactic to stop
Speaker 8: growth or development that needs things to make common sense.
Speaker 8: And another thing, within the few days of Trump taking office,
Speaker 8: there was ice rails in near Bakersfield and parn County
Speaker 8: and they're having a lot of nose shows and businesses
Speaker 8: and picked up. And that's a very conservative part of California,
Speaker 8: and I find it interesting that's also where the former
Speaker 8: Speaker of the House McCarthy was from, a Republican and
Speaker 8: I'm seeing a lot of languages is kind of reminding
Speaker 8: with it was the sun in California, Conservative Steven Miller types.
Speaker 8: I wonder if that those ice rates was a revenge
Speaker 8: factor on McCarthy, because I know Steven Miller was not
Speaker 8: a fan of McCarthy and also Matt Gates. So I've
Speaker 8: just kind of kind of put it in a kind
Speaker 8: of speed version of kind of what I've been kind
Speaker 8: of observing was going on. And that delta snow comment.
Speaker 8: So a lot of this goes back to a lot
Speaker 8: of California politics, the conservatives wanting to get their agenda,
Speaker 8: but also used in some of the left wherever they
Speaker 8: can use you know, whatever tools in their tool bag,
Speaker 8: if that makes sense.
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's going to be an interesting thing
Speaker 2: because what's going to happen with the agriculture and with
Speaker 2: all these people not showing up, you know, to work.
Speaker 2: I think it's going to affect the food supply pretty directly.
Speaker 2: And you're going to see more than just the problems
Speaker 2: with the chickens in the eggs in California. But anyway,
Speaker 2: we'll have to just stay tuned and see. I guess Meanwhile, Harlan,
Speaker 2: I got back around to you.
Speaker 4: Well, I'll try to make you as quick as possible
Speaker 4: and drop some points us you can move on on
Speaker 4: down the line. I asked earlier, probably three or four
Speaker 4: days ago. I saw some of the same means a
Speaker 4: few posts about what Danny was talking about about how
Speaker 4: people wasn't showing up for work in California and you
Speaker 4: know the fruit was rotten in the field, and I mean,
Speaker 4: you know, shit, Trump had been there for two days.
Speaker 4: I don't see all it was gonna rot to, especially
Speaker 4: with most of this stuff. He can set in your refrigerator,
Speaker 4: you know, for two months and it's all right. But
Speaker 4: you know, the trucking company that I worked for a
Speaker 4: lot of y'are A freight is too and out of
Speaker 4: California now right now it's not running as much out
Speaker 4: of slain Us while the freg's down around you know,
Speaker 4: Yuma coming up from Mexico, therey. But there is some there,
Speaker 4: you know, still coming out of Burger sip here and there.
Speaker 4: But they said that they didn't know anything about it.
Speaker 4: Jesus Folks is tuned in. You know Trump fans one
Speaker 4: of them. You know, he's a Trump realist. You know,
Speaker 4: he praises him when he does good, and you know
Speaker 4: he you know, he complains when he don't. But if
Speaker 4: that's what I've heard on that issue, you know, speaking
Speaker 4: about other immigration, I don't think I've got to wait
Speaker 4: to see attitude. I don't think it's gonna be as
Speaker 4: bad as what some people thinks it's going to be.
Speaker 4: If they can get the criminals, fine, I'm not for
Speaker 4: loading wand up. It's been here fifteen years, not been
Speaker 4: in trouble and sending him back and then start flying
Speaker 4: other people in that is, you know, got on some
Speaker 4: visa griff, some kind of visa gimmick you know, from
Speaker 4: another country, just to replace somebody's been here, and it's
Speaker 4: you know, just trying to live like everybody else. But
Speaker 4: if we don't do something now you know they're thirty
Speaker 4: to fifty million illegals, we'll be sitting down the road
Speaker 4: five ten years and we'll have forty to sixty. It's
Speaker 4: gonna have to stop. You're gonna have to get some
Speaker 4: kind of program I own to try to get these
Speaker 4: people digest it's inn and the ones that don't need
Speaker 4: to be here, they need to beg you. And I
Speaker 4: think you know, all these that run in during the
Speaker 4: Biden administrations would be the first ones to go back.
Speaker 4: I'm passing over on the Jimmy and I'll catch you
Speaker 4: guys next week if I can make it. I've been
Speaker 4: covered up the last few weeks. I've not been anywhere
Speaker 4: were I've had enough stone signal that.
Speaker 2: I could call in fair enough, fair enough. Appreciate you, Harlan,
Speaker 2: and uh you know yeah, I have always said I
Speaker 2: would love to see one side of the equation or
Speaker 2: the other try to solve this because my whole life
Speaker 2: I've heard about this immigration issue. And guess what, neither side,
Speaker 2: no matter how much power they have or don't have,
Speaker 2: ever seems to make a real effort to solve it.
Speaker 2: You gotta say one thing, at least something is happening,
Speaker 2: so we'll see if it's the right something or if
Speaker 2: it backfires, because you know, if people don't show up
Speaker 2: for work and they don't pick the vegetables and all that, yeah,
Speaker 2: we're gonna have problems. And some people probably out of
Speaker 2: fear immediately because they don't realize how fast things do
Speaker 2: and don't happen. Some people probably did run away and
Speaker 2: decide to go hide. But I don't know if that
Speaker 2: reporting is accurate at this point either. I don't know
Speaker 2: if any of it is. It's hard to trust anything
Speaker 2: coming out of any reports. Jimmy, it looks like you're
Speaker 2: gonna get the final caller spot here tonight, so go ahead.
Speaker 10: I really much say except good show.
Speaker 7: Everyone.
Speaker 10: I have a good weekend.
Speaker 2: Piece absolutely, Jimmy, appreciate you for calling in. Appreciate it,
Speaker 2: Harlan and Danny also for joining us. Be Pete. How
Speaker 2: about the final word from you, my friend?
Speaker 5: Well, another one that can I guess we'll do it
Speaker 5: again next week. In the meantime, everybody go to a
Speaker 5: Shelly dot com and get.
Speaker 3: The donate button, send a little something something to the man.
Speaker 3: Every little bit helps. Other than that, appreciate everybody calling in,
Speaker 3: and we'll do it again Friday.
Speaker 2: Much appreciate it. And since I have a minute, yeah,
Speaker 2: I do appreciate you asking for that, be Pete, because
Speaker 2: it has been essential to keeping me going here. And
Speaker 2: thankfully I've gotten myself back to operational. Wasn't sure if
Speaker 2: I was going to check out there for a little while,
Speaker 2: but but we're back. And I did say I was
Speaker 2: gonna mention the whole Chris Graves thing, wound up talking
Speaker 2: to him off air, but I guess I'll get to
Speaker 2: that another time because I've only got like two minutes here,
Speaker 2: so not enough time to work with. But coming up
Speaker 2: apparently next week Aaron Frowns will have t Krulos with him,
Speaker 2: but this week the Age of Transitions will be on
Speaker 2: just following this show. So thanks for everybody for calling in.
Speaker 2: Let me see who's on the line still by the way,
Speaker 2: maybe just you know what, let's go back around to
Speaker 2: Danny real fast. Danny, you know about this thing with the.
Speaker 8: Sure I'd like to give you a really good source
Speaker 8: for information of you know, California, not just politics. It's
Speaker 8: called calmatters dot org. Generally it's really good journalists, investigative journalism.
Speaker 8: If you want to know more about California politics for
Speaker 8: a long time, there's a guy named Dan Walters. He's
Speaker 8: been around for sometimes forever, and he's he's pretty balanced.
Speaker 8: I mean, he goes after everybody, you know, liberal conservative,
Speaker 8: he's he really cares about issues in California. So I
Speaker 8: think there's a he goes back to a lot of
Speaker 8: I think Stephen Miller has got a lot of the
Speaker 8: you're gonna see what making connection to me is a
Speaker 8: lot of California, the conservative politics, the administration.
Speaker 2: There you go, Thanks Danny, thank you for that reference.
Speaker 2: And b Pete one last time, man, I really appreciate
Speaker 2: you for doing this with me. I hope everybody takes
Speaker 2: a listen to that third Rail discussion. I think we
Speaker 2: had an interesting time on with nature Boy this past week.
Speaker 2: We didn't do this show in order to do his
Speaker 2: live What did you think of that, by the way,
Speaker 2: just a quick.
Speaker 3: Thought, Well, I thought it went well. I enjoyed it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely right. I mean it was kind of cool
Speaker 2: to be the guests as opposed to having to run
Speaker 2: the show. And I think that's the first time I
Speaker 2: brought a co host with me in a long time anyway,
Speaker 2: and I was really I was like, yeah, I got
Speaker 2: to bring be Pete with me. Man, since we're doing
Speaker 2: this on a Friday, you know, I'm canceling the show
Speaker 2: he looks forward to every week. So you know, I
Speaker 2: thought that was great and I I really do hope
Speaker 2: you enjoyed it, because I think that was an interesting
Speaker 2: little look at things, having a nature boy of all people,
Speaker 2: kind of interview us. Right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it went very well and I was looking at
Speaker 3: some of the comments in his chat that was going on.
Speaker 3: They seem to have enjoyed it as well, So it was, yeah,
Speaker 3: well worth it and I'd love doing it again.
Speaker 2: Excellent, Ny, Maybe we'll listen. We are available to do
Speaker 2: guest spots. We'd rather not do it on a Friday night,
Speaker 2: but I'd be more than happy to, you know, if
Speaker 2: I can get be Pete to set aside some time
Speaker 2: bring him along with me on any of these shows.
Speaker 2: If you guys want to invite us, we are available,
Speaker 2: just so you know. Anyway, that's that. So no matter
Speaker 2: who you are, when you are where you are, just
Speaker 2: remember I am merely o'celly and everybody who listens to
Speaker 2: participates in does anything with his network. After all, you
Speaker 2: are indeed the effect. Have a good night, sa