Speaker 1: Typically a Friday staple on the program, but Chris Camaradnie
Speaker 1: Liven Studio stops by on this Wednesday afternoon for the
Speaker 1: three o'clock hour. So you did watch Can Hardly Wait
Speaker 1: lately recently, didn't you? Because that's this track is on
Speaker 1: that soundtrack, I believe.
Speaker 2: I think Graduate is on a different third hit, but
Speaker 2: I mean they're all bangers.
Speaker 1: Spence, so we were talking about this during the break.
Speaker 1: Porter yesterday asked the question on air that honestly blew
Speaker 1: my mind a little bit, so shout out to him
Speaker 1: because I randomly the algorithm on Spotify was like, you're
Speaker 1: in the mood to listen to Interstay love song by
Speaker 1: Stone Temple Pilots today, Boom, here you go. And I
Speaker 1: probably haven't heard that song in five or six years.
Speaker 1: So I was like, oh, I like this song. This
Speaker 1: is a good song. Stp fine, not great. So I
Speaker 1: did the Spotify I know you you and Will Hardy
Speaker 1: Apple Music. I did the Spotify thing where you can
Speaker 1: pull up the song and then just go to the
Speaker 1: radio station that will play other songs like that one,
Speaker 1: and the algorithm tells you what you like. And it
Speaker 1: was littered with nineties one hit Wonders, there was a
Speaker 1: ton of Pearl Jam, there was Nirvana, stp and and
Speaker 1: a little bit of Third Eye Blind as well. And
Speaker 1: so when Porter brought that up, like how has this
Speaker 1: music aged, I honestly don't know the answer, because I
Speaker 1: don't know how many youngs are like Rocking Ram these days.
Speaker 2: That's a good point. I would say that the nineties
Speaker 2: were probably are probably overlooked in terms of what are
Speaker 2: conceived to be oldies now. I would imagine the youngs
Speaker 2: have their fair share of eighties music for the Michael
Speaker 2: Jackson's the all that stuff. Probably the seventies as well.
Speaker 2: I don't know. That's a great question. I know that
Speaker 2: some youngs, like my youngest sister in law love's nineties
Speaker 2: hip hop. How how old?
Speaker 1: How twenty three?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that resonates. But like if we're talking about,
Speaker 2: you know, going to a coffee shop in the Avenues,
Speaker 2: I don't know if one of the baristas there is like,
Speaker 2: you know, crushing b sides of a Third Eye Blind
Speaker 2: or you know depeche.
Speaker 1: Mode Cafe on First a excellent spot, great spot, great breakfast, Breedo,
Speaker 1: they can work on the wrapping of the brito. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna say that if you get like the extra
Speaker 1: cream cheese and stuff, and.
Speaker 2: They're not.
Speaker 1: But no, it was actually making me think. And I'm
Speaker 1: a little bit older than you, but you appreciate the
Speaker 1: nineties first of all, Nineties hip hop is by far
Speaker 1: the best decade. It's not even close. And if there
Speaker 1: is another close decade, it's actually probably the eighties not
Speaker 1: moving forward. So I'm glad to hear your sister in
Speaker 1: law appreciates it. But you're a fan of the You're
Speaker 1: a fan of the nineties, even though that you know
Speaker 1: you're a older millennial. The best decade, decade? What do
Speaker 1: you say? Off? Everything was great, Everything was good, love it.
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, I listened to the Rewatchables podcast Bill Simmons,
Speaker 2: Kyle brand did Wayne's World, Oh Nice, and that is
Speaker 2: you know, a top five movie for me all time.
Speaker 2: And Kyle Brandt of the NFL Network is you know
Speaker 2: a famous on on camera face And he told a
Speaker 2: story how he got to interview the stars of Bohemian Rhapsody,
Speaker 2: the movie starring Romy Malick like for some reason, they
Speaker 2: went on NFL Network when the movie was coming out,
Speaker 2: and he asked them what their relationship was to like
Speaker 2: that song, and they were like, oh, we all learned
Speaker 2: of it from Wayne's World, just like I did. And
Speaker 2: I know that's a song from the eighties and Wayne's
Speaker 2: World is a movie from the nineties. But yeah, man,
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm on a tangent here, but watch Wayne's World.
Speaker 2: To me, it's the most quotable movie of all time.
Speaker 1: It's got to be up there. I want the ck
Speaker 1: tangents all hour Man. And by the way, the most
Speaker 1: gen x thing I'll say on the show today, Kyle
Speaker 1: Brandt for me is Kyle Brant from the Real World,
Speaker 1: Real Real World, Chicago, not from the NFL network. Okay,
Speaker 1: Kyle Brant was on the Real World like twenty.
Speaker 2: Years ago, and he was a soap opera guy. He was. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's right, yep.
Speaker 1: But no, I mean, did you watch the Real World
Speaker 1: back in the day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I watched Real World Seattle, San francisc Seattle was good.
Speaker 2: I was always a Real World guy. Over road Rules,
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 1: Road Rules came later.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then they did like a Real World versus
Speaker 2: road Rules type thing. I mean for MTV used to
Speaker 2: be really cool. Oh yeah, like I'm telling you it was.
Speaker 2: I would get home from school, and I would go
Speaker 2: watch Total Requests Live TRL Carson Daily three thirty pm. Absolutely,
Speaker 2: and you know, you wanted to see what was going
Speaker 2: to be the top video of the day, and so
Speaker 2: often it was you know, your poppy in syncs, Christina Aguileras.
Speaker 2: But every once in a while you had, you know,
Speaker 2: a curveball and then you had a blink Win eighty
Speaker 2: two or a green day or something, and it was
Speaker 2: it used to it was a vibe, as the kids say,
Speaker 2: back in the.
Speaker 1: Day, MTV for a number of years ruled and it's
Speaker 1: our generation, the generation now. First of all, I don't watch,
Speaker 1: you know, anything outside of YouTube or their phones, but
Speaker 1: you know TRL and I got to say, Real World
Speaker 1: Road Rules Challenge. I loved it.
Speaker 2: Yeah that great. Yeah, VH one Behind the Music nice,
Speaker 2: like bring that back for real though, Yes, like that
Speaker 2: was almost like sixty minutes like for musical talent yep,
Speaker 2: very fascinating stuff. Yeah, I would love them to a
Speaker 2: different channel. But like stuff like that we need more
Speaker 2: of now.
Speaker 1: I totally agree there's not a lot of that out there,
Speaker 1: and maybe there's some on YouTube that haven't discovered yet
Speaker 1: because I need to maybe uh.
Speaker 2: Might as well just go back and rewatch stuff because
Speaker 2: we're so inundated with information that I'm sure we've forgotten
Speaker 2: a billion things that we once knew, no doubt.
Speaker 1: But nineties, okay, we're on the same page. Things of age, well, movies,
Speaker 1: music and such. YouTube television is where we're able to
Speaker 1: watch the lads today. Let's do a little bit on
Speaker 1: the lads.
Speaker 2: C K no on YouTube, not YouTube TV. It is
Speaker 2: streaming on YouTube, but it's not on YouTube TV.
Speaker 1: So RSL conk CAF Champions Cup in about one hour
Speaker 1: twenty minutes streaming on YouTube.
Speaker 2: And you can watch it on two b which is
Speaker 2: a free app. Okay, but there's other there's other conker
Speaker 2: CAF games on tonight. So Messi's playing, so they get
Speaker 2: the main draw. I see. I think Seattle's in Honduras
Speaker 2: or Guatemala, and there's there's a bunch of matches tonight.
Speaker 2: I know last night you were grinding tape on on
Speaker 2: rapids LAFC. But tonight, when the star is front and center,
Speaker 2: everybody else's secondary.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and look there's no debate. I mean, obviously I've
Speaker 1: talked about this before. When when you have a signing
Speaker 1: like Lino Messi, I mean, I draw the parallel to Beckham,
Speaker 1: even though worldwide there's really no comparison. I mean, hell,
Speaker 1: Trey came on the show and compared them to Jesus. Okay.
Speaker 1: So that's where the.
Speaker 2: Message to some people that literally is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's what I'm saying, Like, I don't think
Speaker 1: and I'll only speak for myself. I've been overseas and
Speaker 1: attended games in the EPL, and when you do that,
Speaker 1: you open yourself up to an entire new world. On
Speaker 1: a number of different reasons. First of all, you say, oh,
Speaker 1: soccer can look like that all. Do you respect MLS
Speaker 1: thirty years old, a dumb.
Speaker 2: Weird league and the and only getting dumber. Yes in
Speaker 2: some areas.
Speaker 1: Quality of play improving, certainly, but a league that is
Speaker 1: just dumb in so many in its own way it
Speaker 1: is it is, and the quality improving. But when you
Speaker 1: actually see what it looks like in the Premiership, and
Speaker 1: you know, I've never been to like Bundesliga, La Liga
Speaker 1: or whatever, but I've seen it on television, you realize
Speaker 1: that soccer can look like that and that's why it
Speaker 1: is the world's game. But you also realize that I
Speaker 1: don't think many of us in this country have an
Speaker 1: accurate idea of just how big this game is and
Speaker 1: how massively popular these players are when you actually leave
Speaker 1: our borders. I'm not sure that we really have proper content.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the easiest comp would be our American
Speaker 2: football because that runs the show in this country and
Speaker 2: probably will forever. But yeah, I mean it's it's still
Speaker 2: insane to me. I think Miami's playing another MLS team
Speaker 2: in conker Caf tonight, but like it's still hilarious that
Speaker 2: Messi brought his buddies to Miami and brought another great
Speaker 2: Argentine who he played with at Barcelona to their head
Speaker 2: coach too. So it's like it's Messi's show and MLS
Speaker 2: and you're right, like the star power that he wields
Speaker 2: is I mean, Lebron, Kobe Michael, those are those are
Speaker 2: the guys. I mean, did we like, who is the
Speaker 2: most famous American football player? Is it Brady?
Speaker 1: I'm sure, yeah, it's probably still Tom Brady. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: like currently active. No, I'm saying, like in our in
Speaker 1: our lifetime, yeah, it's probably Brady. I mean I think.
Speaker 2: If Tom Brady goes to Peru or if he goes
Speaker 2: to gabone or if he goes to Sri Lanka, nobody's
Speaker 2: freaking out if they seem more.
Speaker 1: Right on the streets. Right in the NFL, you know,
Speaker 1: there are rumors that they're going to try to expand
Speaker 1: internationally Mexico City and Europe and such. I don't like
Speaker 1: why it's never been embraced overseas. I think it's a
Speaker 1: very uniquely American Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well everything else.
Speaker 1: But they don't need it. They don't, you know, like
Speaker 1: the NFL doesn't. The NBA very much needs international revenue
Speaker 1: streams to kind of offset the domestic apathy. That's a
Speaker 1: great word right to the product during the regular season
Speaker 1: where players just don't really seem to care at all.
Speaker 1: Did you watch one second of All Star Weekend?
Speaker 2: I did not have you ever? Oh yeah, so you
Speaker 2: to fan. Back back in the day when I was
Speaker 2: single and sad and didn't have much of a life,
Speaker 2: I would you know, fire up a you know, Kraft
Speaker 2: mac and Cheese and watch the.
Speaker 1: Dunk contest Antinoe Pizza.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or or you know, during my super sad days,
Speaker 2: I would go to Cafe Rio and get a giant
Speaker 2: two thousand calorie salad and you know, watch a dunk contest,
Speaker 2: but it hasn't been. I mean, it's ironic that they
Speaker 2: had it in San Francisco, which is the last time
Speaker 2: I thought the dunk contest was worth a damn twenty
Speaker 2: five years ago, when I was like fifteen years.
Speaker 1: And that dunk contest was something else.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, and now it's all gimmicks and
Speaker 2: you know it's fine, you don't. We don't need to
Speaker 2: go over NBA All Star hot takes by c K today.
Speaker 1: Now, I am honestly wondering, as somebody who makes his
Speaker 1: living in the world sports, if it even resonated with you,
Speaker 1: I guy, I should.
Speaker 2: Turn this on. I mean, is it shallow to say
Speaker 2: that if there were star talent in the dunk contest
Speaker 2: that I would probably tune in?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: I mean, look, Matt, that that to me is more
Speaker 2: intriguing than the game.
Speaker 1: Well, and it's one of the things that's changed. And
Speaker 1: I hate to put all of this on Lebron. It
Speaker 1: sounds like I am and Mac McClung is a tremendously
Speaker 1: talented dunker, but he's a G League player that most
Speaker 1: people have never heard of, and he looks like your
Speaker 1: little brother's friend that came over to try to steal
Speaker 1: your uncrustables. He just looks like a dude. But Lebron
Speaker 1: I think was kind because Kobe won the dunk contest.
Speaker 1: He may have won a toy.
Speaker 2: He was really young though, right that was it was
Speaker 2: before he got famous.
Speaker 1: Well, sure, but he did win it twice, and I
Speaker 1: do think the second time he wanted he was kind
Speaker 1: of evolving into one of the better players and league.
Speaker 1: I think the first time he was in it, he
Speaker 1: was a rookie to your point, the same rookie that
Speaker 1: airballed like five three share in Salt Lake. But I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, when Lebron kind of burst on the scene.
Speaker 1: I can remember when you know, people who covered the
Speaker 1: league we're talking about. It was almost like this right
Speaker 1: of passage. Mike did it, Kobe did it, and now
Speaker 1: it's Lebron's turn because he's dunking on people, so he
Speaker 1: has to be able to dunk in a dunk contest.
Speaker 1: Really well, he never had any interest.
Speaker 2: He never he wanted Brons too. Smart man, he was
Speaker 2: never going to open himself up to potentially lose on
Speaker 2: that stage, and they probably wouldn't have let him lose.
Speaker 1: Is that smart? Though, or is it weak.
Speaker 2: I mean, it depends. Pete Man, it's a dunk contest.
Speaker 2: I I agree with you. I'm just telling you through
Speaker 2: the lens of how the current modern player thinks. And
Speaker 2: everybody blames Lebron. At the end of the day, everything's
Speaker 2: about money. You're going, how are you going to be
Speaker 2: the most marketable to brands? Don't put yourself in any
Speaker 2: sort of precarious position publicly, privately, even on something, as
Speaker 2: you know, inconsequential as a dunk contest. That's that's the way.
Speaker 2: That's the way most professional players are, especially in the.
Speaker 1: NBA, and it's the way they are now. And I
Speaker 1: just need to stop being like, hey, it used to
Speaker 1: be different. And the reason why I continue to bring
Speaker 1: this up topically it's different than the Pro Bowl because
Speaker 1: I've had a few guests like, hey, well what about
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. Nobody watches the Pro Bowl. Here's the difference.
Speaker 1: The Pro Bowl has never been good. It was never good,
Speaker 1: it was never competitive. The All Star Game, for like
Speaker 1: thirty years, was the best pickup basketball game in the
Speaker 1: world because the best players showed up and they played
Speaker 1: hard and they tried to win. And so when you
Speaker 1: juxtaposed the two products. Now it's maybe it's just a
Speaker 1: selfish thing that I missed this game that I used
Speaker 1: to love, and now because I turned it on, I
Speaker 1: watched it and it was it wasn't just the format
Speaker 1: and the games that were frustrating. It was the television presentation.
Speaker 1: We got thirty minutes of Kevin Hart making fun of
Speaker 1: Shaq's turtleneck. What am I watching?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And if you're a player, Chris, and you play a game,
Speaker 1: and you play hard for about fifteen minutes to try
Speaker 1: to win, and then they come over the side and
Speaker 1: say they say, hey, okay, you're gonna have to sit
Speaker 1: here now for twenty or thirty minutes. Kevin Hart stand up.
Speaker 1: They interviewed Jokic and then like, hey, what'd you do
Speaker 1: during the break? He's like, I got tight.
Speaker 2: That's how you get hurt exactly. Yeah. No, I don't
Speaker 2: know how people didn't think that through. Yeah, that is
Speaker 2: the quintessential, Like, if you're going to play, play otherwise,
Speaker 2: do not do that because the chances of you getting
Speaker 2: a muscle pull or a tweak or something are so
Speaker 2: much higher if you play for fifteen or twenty minutes
Speaker 2: then have to sit for an hour and a half
Speaker 2: and then play again.
Speaker 1: One hundred percent. And any pickup soccer player knows this.
Speaker 1: You don't have to be a high level athlete. Kevin
Speaker 1: Hart funny, yes or no.
Speaker 2: Kevin Hart was funny on forty year old virgin See,
Speaker 2: But like as a stand up I don't think, yeah, no, I'm.
Speaker 1: The stand up stuff is like there are two.
Speaker 2: He's he's really good at making money in Hollywood.
Speaker 1: He works his tail. I respect his grind and I
Speaker 1: respect anybody who works as that's what people.
Speaker 2: Want to listen to. The drive about is are Kevin
Speaker 2: Heart takes.
Speaker 1: Well in the grind and they respect my grind? Last night,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm kind of the Kevin the local sports
Speaker 1: soccer radio scene. It's not a big deal, but I
Speaker 1: respect the grind. The stand up is horrible, and to
Speaker 1: force feed that to people I think was really blind
Speaker 1: and misguided. Like there were a couple of funny moments
Speaker 1: here there, but not near enough. And I'm not tuned
Speaker 1: in to watch a stand up comedy show. There are
Speaker 1: two stand up comics that make me feel old and
Speaker 1: not be able to relate to young people. Kevin Hart
Speaker 1: and Pete Davidson. Pete Davidson has never said anything funny
Speaker 1: in the entire.
Speaker 2: He's good in movies. He's good in movies. Fing of
Speaker 2: Staten Islands, No, hey, come on, let's go there.
Speaker 1: No, No, I'm not watching King of Staten Island because
Speaker 1: Pete Davidson is so he's people not when it comes
Speaker 1: to Pete Davidson, because this is a disconnect. I've never
Speaker 1: heard him say anything that's funny. I've never seen him
Speaker 1: do an impression that's clever. I have no idea why
Speaker 1: he was on SNL. I think he's a total hack.
Speaker 1: When it comes to Kevin hart and Pete Davidson.
Speaker 2: On my man, there's got to be one. There's got
Speaker 2: to be one Pete Davidson type. What do you think
Speaker 2: got more viewership the SNL fifty or the All Star.
Speaker 1: Game SNL fifty?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Did you watch by the way.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's good, right, absolutely, see, it was awesome.
Speaker 2: I got I got choked up during Sandler's song Man,
Speaker 2: that was great. Sandler nobody carries I think the weight
Speaker 2: of the people that brought him along the way Sandler
Speaker 2: does to this day, Like the way he talks about
Speaker 2: guys like Farley and Hartman and just those guys like
Speaker 2: you can tell that it still weighs on him thirty
Speaker 2: thirty five years later. And it's cool because I mean,
Speaker 2: here we are talking about SNL and sports talk radio,
Speaker 2: which is totally fine. Peyton Manning, Peyton Manning was.
Speaker 1: There Drive two to six man Yeah, you know the.
Speaker 2: Gotta feel some air. Yeah. I I the SNL fifty
Speaker 2: was amazing. And if you gave me the two options
Speaker 2: between watching a team of who who was on the
Speaker 2: George no, no offense to your guy Kyante. If you
Speaker 2: gave me the chance to watch Kiante George play Victor
Speaker 2: wembin Yama or watch SNL fifty, I'll take SNL fifty
Speaker 2: ten times out of ten.
Speaker 1: Hard to argue with that, and I think the numbers
Speaker 1: would back you up. Best SNL cast member of all time.
Speaker 1: You have a hot take on that. You can throw
Speaker 1: a few names out there.
Speaker 2: I mean, my generation was I got I had Farrell
Speaker 2: was my generation, so I'll go Ferrell. But like, I'm
Speaker 2: old enough that my friend's siblings bought the old best
Speaker 2: of VHS tapes of like Farley and Dana Carvey and
Speaker 2: Mike Meyers, so we would watch those on VHS because
Speaker 2: we missed that era, like and I mean some of
Speaker 2: some of those sketches, man just kill me still. I
Speaker 2: mean it's they're so amazing. But I'll go Ferrell because
Speaker 2: that was my wheelhouse.
Speaker 1: See to me, it's Farley. Yeah, you know that's because
Speaker 1: that's my era. The Dana Carvey, Adam Sandler, Al Frankin,
Speaker 1: tim Meadows, tim Meadows, wild underrated, Phil Hartman, wildly underrated.
Speaker 2: Rest in People.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, and you brought this up off air, which I
Speaker 1: think is spot on. And actually there's a sports parallel
Speaker 1: because whichever generation you came up in, that's who you
Speaker 1: think the best SNL cast is. Like, you know, I'll
Speaker 1: have even parents or family members talk about Eddie Murphy
Speaker 1: and talk about and yeah that, and it's hard to
Speaker 1: argue with that. I don't think a lot of it
Speaker 1: has aged super well and it doesn't land the way
Speaker 1: with me that it did with them. But there are
Speaker 1: back to not relating to the youngs. There are plenty
Speaker 1: of youngs that don't think Adam Sandler is funny because,
Speaker 1: in their defense, he has made a lot of really
Speaker 1: bad movies over the past. But here's what I love
Speaker 1: about him. I think he doesn't really give a rip
Speaker 1: like he employs his family, he employs his friends. He's
Speaker 1: made hundreds of millions of dollars with his company. Is
Speaker 1: at Happy.
Speaker 2: Madison pickup basketball players great? Well, I mean, I mean
Speaker 2: gets involved in great pickup games.
Speaker 1: I think, living a life like Adam Sandler, it seems
Speaker 1: very appealing to me.
Speaker 2: As if there are legit Sandler haters in the world.
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, man, We're in a world of pain
Speaker 2: and on a multitude of reasons. But everybody just needs
Speaker 2: to calm.
Speaker 1: Down, yes, and just enjoy the thing that's in front
Speaker 1: of you for what it is, unless it's the All
Speaker 1: Star Game, because it's horrible.
Speaker 2: That's called the transition, kids.
Speaker 1: It is and we'll catch a break. But coming up next,
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Speaker 1: to a soccer game? Down in Central America.
Speaker 2: I have no mcl got to go cover that run
Speaker 2: the goat and he said it was insane. That was
Speaker 2: our guy, mcl He's good man, had some kids and
Speaker 2: just live in the dream. We miss him, Michael C.
Speaker 2: Lewis for the uninitiated, good people, I can remember.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have Bill on today. Actually, I think the
Speaker 1: first game that Bill called in Central America, he was
Speaker 1: with Donny. Yeah, and Donny was like, dude, just walk
Speaker 1: up the stairs, don't look left or right. Yep, let's
Speaker 1: get to the broadcast booth and let's stay safe and
Speaker 1: during the broadcast, and we'll get Bill to tell these stories.
Speaker 1: If I remember correctly, the fans were throwing like batteries
Speaker 1: at them.
Speaker 2: Cool as they were trying. Yeah, I mean it just
Speaker 2: means more.
Speaker 1: Cool. He says, could do some damage at some point.
Speaker 2: I mean that Bill's already miss Midwest man.
Speaker 1: No, that's fair. Bill can take a couple of batteries
Speaker 1: to the dome. Uh. In any college hoops these days,
Speaker 1: you watch any college basketball.
Speaker 2: You'll be proud of me. I watch some of both
Speaker 2: of the Kansas losses to our local teams this week.
Speaker 1: Wildly, and Kansas did not lead for one second while
Speaker 1: they were here in state.
Speaker 2: So my take is Kansas sucks because I watched I
Speaker 2: had to cover them when they were here in the
Speaker 2: tournament last year, and that their big guy is probably
Speaker 2: gonna make a lot of money playing like at Real
Speaker 2: Madrid or something, but like, our guy is not giving
Speaker 2: more than like fifty percent effort out there. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: he was like that last year, and I feel like
Speaker 2: they have worse players this year. But like they lost
Speaker 2: to Utah, and you can correct me if I'm wrong,
Speaker 2: but Utah is playing a style of basketball that's like
Speaker 2: me and like church ball in like eighth grade, where
Speaker 2: you just dribble it around and you know, lift up
Speaker 2: your plant leg too soon and then look to throw
Speaker 2: it to somebody. Because they were they were doing some
Speaker 2: wild stuff and the fact that they got away with
Speaker 2: the win good for them.
Speaker 1: Your take on Kansas, I feel like is correct, okay,
Speaker 1: because and I don't want to come across as if
Speaker 1: I'm diminishing a really good win for Utah. Quad one
Speaker 1: win and then BYU dog walked him. I mean, at
Speaker 1: one point he was a thirty eight point game. It
Speaker 1: is tied for the biggest defeat Bill self has ever
Speaker 1: suffered to Kansas. But like the defense for Kansas in
Speaker 1: both games, quite frankly against Utahn, BYU was atrocious. Now
Speaker 1: to Bill Self's credit, he talked about it after the game.
Speaker 1: But like Trevin Nell, who plays for Brigham.
Speaker 2: Y guy, I know you have a bone to pick
Speaker 2: with I don't have.
Speaker 1: A bone to pick with him. Why would I have
Speaker 1: a bone to pick with Trevinell? It's just Chris.
Speaker 2: If I think he's a battleful guy, maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: No, I think he went to Woodscrosska thing. Look, he
Speaker 1: can shoot the you know what out of the basketball.
Speaker 1: He is an elite shooter. Yeah, but if he couldn't
Speaker 1: shoot it, he'd be in his fourth year blogging about
Speaker 1: BYU basketball for KASL.
Speaker 2: Because as lots of people around here that do that exactly.
Speaker 1: Because he's like twenty seven, but that's what he can do,
Speaker 1: and they like ignored him Kansas.
Speaker 2: There was no no closeouts.
Speaker 1: Zero closeouts good good term, take away the airspace, get
Speaker 1: up in him, make him uncomfortable on the scout. I
Speaker 1: didn't report for Kansas. When it comes to number twenty
Speaker 1: one on BYU, the one thing you can't let him
Speaker 1: do is shoot it from the outside, and that's the
Speaker 1: only thing they let him do.
Speaker 2: I mean, it seems like they let everybody shoot from
Speaker 2: the outset.
Speaker 1: But that's the thing. Like, I don't know what the
Speaker 1: game plan was, or if the players were just like
Speaker 1: screw it and ignore the game plan like.
Speaker 2: They were, Like we went to Kubby's last night. We
Speaker 2: went too hard. We had a Sprinkle milkshake, feeling a
Speaker 2: little bloated, don't know where I'm.
Speaker 1: Going, little swig after party, and ultimately didn't have.
Speaker 2: The energy like, Okay, here's one for you.
Speaker 1: I was stunned at how poorly Kansas was defensively.
Speaker 2: Richie Saunders really good future pro?
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably Europe. Okay, but I think he's BYU's best player.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's their best pro.
Speaker 2: Probst can he be Sam Merril?
Speaker 1: I don't think he can shoot it like Sam can
Speaker 1: shoot it.
Speaker 2: Because nobody really saw Sam's my guy. Yeah, covered Sam
Speaker 2: in high school. Boe Braves, Yep. A lot of people
Speaker 2: were like Sam will make millions of dollars in Europe
Speaker 2: and now he is a rotational player on the best
Speaker 2: team in the league.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so, it's a good it's a good COLMP
Speaker 1: because the interesting thing is Richie is a better athlete
Speaker 1: than Sam is, and Richie up until like last year,
Speaker 1: was only like an energy guy that didn't shoot it
Speaker 1: very well. So he's clearly put in the work because
Speaker 1: he is a knockdown shooter. Maybe a fringe NBA guy,
Speaker 1: but he is six or five and he is a
Speaker 1: good athlete, but he doesn't shoot it the way Sam
Speaker 1: shoots it. My old thing with Sam was like if
Speaker 1: he can find a way to get a little stronger
Speaker 1: and and and improve his release time, like you have
Speaker 1: a co then he has a shot because he's knocked down.
Speaker 1: My concern with him was what was going to happen
Speaker 1: with Sam Merril is ultimately what happened with Jimmer Ferdad,
Speaker 1: which is Jimmer three inches taller. But Jimmer is and
Speaker 1: always has been a ball in hand, shoot it off
Speaker 1: the dribble guy. He was never a great catch and
Speaker 1: shoot guy. But when he played at By you Dave said,
Speaker 1: you've got the ball, You've got the greenness of green lights,
Speaker 1: so dear thing. So whenever Jimmer would go to the
Speaker 1: G League and played against lesser players where he had
Speaker 1: the ball in his hand, he was good. Then he
Speaker 1: went to the pros, he could never get his shot off,
Speaker 1: and so my concern with Sam was like, will he
Speaker 1: be able to get that shot off? If he can,
Speaker 1: he's got a shot and he deserves a lot of
Speaker 1: credit because he's worked his tail off and instead of
Speaker 1: just being a spot up shooter, you know, he can
Speaker 1: shoot a little bit off the bounce. Richie might be
Speaker 1: what he's best player right now though?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a good Richie Saunders tangent, and we
Speaker 2: just went on.
Speaker 1: I like Richie, he's a good player.
Speaker 2: Yeah, local kid.
Speaker 1: Where where do you go to high school?
Speaker 2: Shoot? I want to say PG somewhere in there. It
Speaker 2: feels like somewhere American Fork. Maybe it feels like somewhere
Speaker 2: down there. Well, Mark wanted him to go to Kentucky.
Speaker 2: Oh really yeah, and Richie decided to stay here. Did
Speaker 2: anybody follow Mark to Kentucky? Oh? Yes, number two Jackson Robins.
Speaker 1: Jackson Robinson, look at you, good pull. But now the
Speaker 1: reports were that Mark wanted Dallen Hall and Richie Saunders
Speaker 1: to follow him to Kentucky and they both decided to
Speaker 1: stay down at BYU. And I do not have a
Speaker 1: bone to pick with Trevinell. I'm just saying it's amazing
Speaker 1: to watch a player who only does one thing be
Speaker 1: allowed to do that thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, makes sense.
Speaker 1: It's like just leave shack open at the rim. Yeah,
Speaker 1: get a dunkit.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: College football, you ready for it?
Speaker 2: I'm ready. What are we mad about?
Speaker 1: Well, we're not mad about anything. But for the second
Speaker 1: time in just a few months, the SEC and the
Speaker 1: Big ten are having meetings this week in New Orleans
Speaker 1: about the proposed changes they want to scheduling partnerships the
Speaker 1: CFP format. According to your guys Stuart Mendel, I love
Speaker 1: it when Stewart is grumpy because he'll he'll just come
Speaker 1: off on people.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So what he wrote is the expectation is that these
Speaker 1: two conferences want the CFP to expand a sixty to
Speaker 1: fourteen or sixteen, and then they get four auto bids each,
Speaker 1: Big twelve acc get two each, and I think that
Speaker 1: leaves one for the G five schools and maybe three
Speaker 1: at large bids something like that.
Speaker 2: Either one or three, depending on if it's fourteen or sixteen.
Speaker 1: There it is. So what do you make of this?
Speaker 1: Do you think this is something that's going to come
Speaker 1: to Fruich and potentially in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2: What's what's the golden rule, Spence? I know with the
Speaker 2: gold Yeah, it's this is always going to be an
Speaker 2: evolving reality. They're never going to settle on anything because
Speaker 2: nobody's ever going to be happy. And the more games
Speaker 2: they play, the more money they make. It is as
Speaker 2: simple as that. You don't need to go on Reddit
Speaker 2: and look for any sort of conspiracy theory or mystery
Speaker 2: box to open. It's not that the Big ten and
Speaker 2: the SEC can throw their weight around because they make
Speaker 2: the most money and they have the strongest, you know,
Speaker 2: media partnership deals with these huge conglomerates, and more games
Speaker 2: means more money. That's it, bottom line, That's all it is. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, are they wrong?
Speaker 1: Are they wrong that more games may mean more money?
Speaker 2: Are they wrong in basically hijacking this next iteration and
Speaker 2: what it could look like because if we're if we're
Speaker 2: going beyond, I mean, if if the Big ten had
Speaker 2: top four team last year, like you're talking about, like
Speaker 2: Iowa in the playoff, nobody wanted to watch Iowa play.
Speaker 2: I think top four would have been like a in
Speaker 2: the SEC, it was like a four way tie between
Speaker 2: like Mississippi and Arkansas and you know, all these teams,
Speaker 2: So there's always going to be somebody that's mad. But
Speaker 2: we are a country of addicts. We are obsessed with
Speaker 2: our entertainment, and we will be mad about it, and
Speaker 2: we will watch it and then we will complain about
Speaker 2: it because that's what we do. And it's never been
Speaker 2: easier to watch things and complain about things.
Speaker 1: How much time you spent on Reddit, I don't spend.
Speaker 2: I never got into it, and my buddies were really
Speaker 2: big into it, and I was always kind of skeptical
Speaker 2: and I don't really understand the format all that well,
Speaker 2: Like you have to click the minus and the plus,
Speaker 2: and I don't know, I'm not very smart when it
Speaker 2: comes to it's got to be pretty streamlined for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you strike me as a Reddit guy. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna lie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm full of surprises.
Speaker 1: I mean I'm not. That's not like a compliment or
Speaker 1: I'm not knocking on you just strike me as somebody
Speaker 1: And like, I don't use it much. The only time
Speaker 1: I use it is if I'm doing a Google search
Speaker 1: and a Reddit threat is like, oh that looks kind
Speaker 1: of interesting.
Speaker 2: I'm the same way I don't.
Speaker 1: Like following any wormholes. I don't like going down any wormholes.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's a dangerous, a dangerous path to follow.
Speaker 1: Then the next thing, you know, I'm going to be
Speaker 1: talking about vaccines and transgender athletes on air. I don't
Speaker 1: want to go down any of those rabbit holes. That's
Speaker 1: just me.
Speaker 2: I don't want you to go down those rabbit holes either.
Speaker 1: Have you ever followed a rabbit hole to the place
Speaker 1: where you don't feel like you're in a anymore? No,
Speaker 1: I'm not What about the dark web? To spend time
Speaker 1: in the dark.
Speaker 2: Web ever, not for one second.
Speaker 1: I don't even know how to access it.
Speaker 2: I don't either. I'm more about like watching can't hardly
Speaker 2: wait for the for the million at the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or a college football expanded CFP where it's diluted
Speaker 1: the regular season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, put on Paul finebombs. See what he's saying.
Speaker 2: You know that those are my people and that's my
Speaker 2: that's my gig.
Speaker 1: So yeah, what I do I mean, if I could
Speaker 1: stretch little bit, Yeah, you can stretch. From a sports
Speaker 1: socc radio standpoint, I do feel like four auto bids
Speaker 1: for each of these leagues does dilude the regular season,
Speaker 1: which to me is what makes college football specially correct.
Speaker 2: The regular season will not mean anything. Conference championship weekend
Speaker 2: will be gone, and frankly, I don't think that matters
Speaker 2: all that much, like it was already on its last legs. Anyways,
Speaker 2: do get rid of it. In this iteration, you'll prioritize
Speaker 2: the conference records and that's it. The Wetzel Forty Doallinger
Speaker 2: podcast did a really good job this week diving into it,
Speaker 2: and Forty had an epic rant. I recommend people who
Speaker 2: know Pat Forty, who is you know, one of the
Speaker 2: luminaries in our business right of the show. Yeah, he
Speaker 2: did not mince words when talking about this potential iteration
Speaker 2: coming to fruition. They'll have to rethink things. The regular
Speaker 2: season will I don't think it'll mean like non conference
Speaker 2: games will not mean a thing like other than bragging rights,
Speaker 2: because in this format you will primarily go on the
Speaker 2: basis of conference records and listen, man, Would people tune
Speaker 2: in to watch Utah play Ole Miss in a first
Speaker 2: round game in a theoretical playoff, Yes they were, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Would people tune in to watch Iowa play Miami? Yeah,
Speaker 2: we're talking about We're talking about schools that have significant
Speaker 2: followings that are going to be involved more. And that's
Speaker 2: that's just the bottom line. Like we're talking about fan
Speaker 2: bases that are part of cultures that are ingratiated in
Speaker 2: the sport at a level that you know, some other
Speaker 2: programs in other parts of the country frankly aren't. And
Speaker 2: I say that being a West Coast kid, being having
Speaker 2: a a understanding of what the West Coast bias is
Speaker 2: against us, but can't complain.
Speaker 1: Well, you can't deal with you can't.
Speaker 2: Okay, you can come, but at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: you're still going to watch it, So get off your
Speaker 2: high horse.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just you know, I try, I guess in
Speaker 1: a way trying to hold on to what makes college
Speaker 1: football or college football is. And maybe I need to
Speaker 1: go the way of my All Star take where it's
Speaker 1: like Alan Iverson is not walking through that door to
Speaker 1: try to hang thirty on you in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: Instead you get to see Donovan Mitchell not care about
Speaker 1: being you know where he is. Even though I think
Speaker 1: being named an NBA All Star should mean something. I
Speaker 1: think that's something you should wear with pride and show
Speaker 1: up and do your job and do it to the
Speaker 1: best of your abilities. But if we're I guess where
Speaker 1: I'm at with it is if we're simply moving, step
Speaker 1: by step, slowly towards this eventuality that we all believe
Speaker 1: we're moving towards. Rip the band aid man, like, let's
Speaker 1: just get on with it. I agree, But what do
Speaker 1: you think stopping it?
Speaker 2: My guess is the ability to milk as much money
Speaker 2: along the way. Things don't happen, you know, massive change
Speaker 2: doesn't happen overnight. Like remember the BCS and how people
Speaker 2: were so pissed off about it. Never in a million
Speaker 2: years did we think back then we were going to
Speaker 2: see a four team playoff. Then we got it, and
Speaker 2: then never in a million years did we think, oh,
Speaker 2: some other teams might have a chance to play for
Speaker 2: national championship. We finally got it. This is just the
Speaker 2: can is just going to be kicked down the road,
Speaker 2: and you know, the powers that be are going to
Speaker 2: make more money and eventually, to your point, we'll get
Speaker 2: to this you know, proposed super conference whatever we're going
Speaker 2: to call it, and we're going to watch it and
Speaker 2: people will be left out and they will be sad.
Speaker 2: And the people that are in will say nin or niner?
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, well you're Look, I know you're not wrong.
Speaker 1: I understand, and I'm a grown up.
Speaker 2: Am I acting too much of like a fatalist like you.
Speaker 1: Like, you're not wrong, But it's kind of like doing
Speaker 1: this job every day. I can't crack the mic and
Speaker 1: be like, hey, guys, get over it. Jazz are rebuilding,
Speaker 1: so just go over And I'm like, go home. If
Speaker 1: I could, I would.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be cool.
Speaker 1: But you've got to dig into this in a way
Speaker 1: that isn't as reductive as you just made it, even
Speaker 1: though you're not wrong. So here, let me stretch. Okay,
Speaker 1: let me try this. We're in about the softmore, we're
Speaker 1: in the Big twelve footprint. If you're not in the
Speaker 1: SEC in the Big ten, do you have reason to
Speaker 1: be concerned? Even if you're a program like the university
Speaker 1: for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't have any power to wield in this scenario,
Speaker 2: and the two conferences that wield all the power are
Speaker 2: throwing their weight around. I don't. I mean, maybe there
Speaker 2: will be an explosion of talent in the Big twelve,
Speaker 2: and maybe Dion's buffs will start ten to zero, and
Speaker 2: maybe Utah will write the ship and BYU Devin Dampier,
Speaker 2: Devin Dampier and Jake Retslov will be a Heisman Trophy candidate,
Speaker 2: and Iowa State will pick up where they left off,
Speaker 2: and so on and so forth. I don't you have
Speaker 2: to they have to show it to the country first,
Speaker 2: otherwise they're they just don't have the clout built in
Speaker 2: that these other teams and other conferences do fair or not. Yeah, like.
Speaker 1: It.
Speaker 2: I understand that nobody wants to watch, you know, Minnesota
Speaker 2: have a great year and then get into the playoff
Speaker 2: out here at least, and maybe some people do. But
Speaker 2: the reality is they're part of the They're part They're
Speaker 2: part of the club, and a lot of people aren't.
Speaker 1: Do you think that the sport is in trouble at all?
Speaker 1: In any way? She don't know, because at some point,
Speaker 1: whether it's the NBA and the apathy or college football
Speaker 1: and the disorganization, the only thing that will affect change
Speaker 1: if you're not in the room is enough people not
Speaker 1: tuning in to affect their bottom line.
Speaker 2: College football, to me is the most like international club soccer. Though,
Speaker 2: like you're talking about where people grew up, where they
Speaker 2: went to school, they are you are celeb rating a
Speaker 2: sport that is always going to be in lockstep with
Speaker 2: your perceived best years of your life, and that carves
Speaker 2: out a special place in the hearts of fans, and
Speaker 2: I just don't really see that evaporating. It is funny though,
Speaker 2: Like as we've talked about in the past, like when
Speaker 2: that proposed super conference over in Europe was put on
Speaker 2: the table and basically everybody, all the fans of the
Speaker 2: teams that would have been included, were like, this is bs.
Speaker 2: We're going to storm the field and like say like,
Speaker 2: we won't let you play games because this is unfair
Speaker 2: to the little to the little guys here in this country.
Speaker 2: We're just like, eh see you, good luck. We are
Speaker 2: a we are a have and have not country when
Speaker 2: it comes to a lot of things, but in sports especially.
Speaker 1: You know what, and if I'm leaning into some altruistic approach,
Speaker 1: I apologize. One of the reasons I've always wanted to.
Speaker 1: You know, I played sports as long as I could,
Speaker 1: and then in my career I've done a bunch of
Speaker 1: different things all around sports and entertainment. Before I got
Speaker 1: into radio, I worked for the Olympics, I was with
Speaker 1: Disney's wide world of sports for a little bit, then
Speaker 1: got into radio. And one of the reasons you know,
Speaker 1: I've always wanted to stay around it is it seemed
Speaker 1: to be one of the portions of our ecosystem in
Speaker 1: this country. It isn't simply just run like a Fortune
Speaker 1: five hundred company.
Speaker 2: It was, yeah, it was. It was a safe space.
Speaker 1: Well, and look, I grew up with VC guys. These
Speaker 1: guys are sharks, okay, and I never had any interest
Speaker 1: to me, what does VC mean thenure capitalists? These guys
Speaker 1: are sharks, man, and I never had any interest of
Speaker 1: hopping on the train to go to Grand Central at
Speaker 1: six thirty am, to work on Wall Street for fourteen
Speaker 1: hours a day until you got yours and then telling
Speaker 1: everybody to go bleep themselves at the age of thirty
Speaker 1: five because you bought an island. Maybe I should have
Speaker 1: questioned my life.
Speaker 2: Choice two do that for us?
Speaker 1: Probably? Well for me, man, Like I'm turning forty seven next,
Speaker 1: yek bro, So like this is the deal.
Speaker 2: I turned thirty nine this year, so you're still so yeah,
Speaker 2: I have so much.
Speaker 1: You know what, It's not too late for you, okay,
Speaker 1: if you want to be a VC bro, We're gonna
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to cut the hair, You're gonna have
Speaker 1: to wear like a suit. I'm telling you, I saw
Speaker 1: my high school friends grind for like a decade, to
Speaker 1: the point where I'd go visit them in Midtown. Like
Speaker 1: four of them, yes, like four of them shacked up
Speaker 1: in this little apartment. You know, they all essentially have
Speaker 1: a closet of sleep in. But these are like Yale MBA's,
Speaker 1: these are Harvard And there's like Ivy League Brooks brother
Speaker 1: wearing me if I chose an alternate reality way back
Speaker 1: in the day before I chose fun over that sure,
Speaker 1: And they all kind of said the same thing. We
Speaker 1: just know we have to do this for like eight
Speaker 1: to ten years and then we're good, right, And so
Speaker 1: I understand, and I'm a grown up about front facing
Speaker 1: revenue generating businesses. But like if sports has now only
Speaker 1: leaned into capitalism because Adam Silver runs the NBA like
Speaker 1: a fortune five hundred company the way that David Stern
Speaker 1: didn't necessarily and David knew was a business, but he
Speaker 1: cared about fan relations and the product and the consumer
Speaker 1: and the way the sport was covered. And there is
Speaker 1: this feel around pro basketball though they're simply, as Jason
Speaker 1: Kidds sat out loud two years ago, millionaires cheering for
Speaker 1: each other and they don't give a rip out of
Speaker 1: anything else.
Speaker 2: Well, you can see where they're coming from if you
Speaker 2: look at the current landscape of even professional sporting events.
Speaker 2: Why is it now more than ever that companies have
Speaker 2: a stranglehold on several one hundred, sometimes thousands of tickets
Speaker 2: at these things where it's like, hey, we have this suite, well,
Speaker 2: we have this suite, we have that sue because they
Speaker 2: have money. They have money to throw around, Whereas like,
Speaker 2: if you go to a jazz game, there are going
Speaker 2: to be people in the upper deck who love the jazz,
Speaker 2: have probably cheered for the jazz their whole life. And
Speaker 2: is it are they ever going to be presented with
Speaker 2: an opportunity to sit in a catered suite with R
Speaker 2: and R barbecue or Cubbies or Cafe Rio or whatever,
Speaker 2: cup pop Like No, man, Like, we we are trending
Speaker 2: that direction because now more than ever, a lot of
Speaker 2: rich companies have a lot of money to throw around,
Speaker 2: and they're going to probably write it off as oh,
Speaker 2: this is a business expense. We'll we'll take some people there,
Speaker 2: and we'll have our suite, and we'll have our multiple suites,
Speaker 2: and then we'll have our floor seats and so on
Speaker 2: and so forth. Like next time you go to a
Speaker 2: jazz game, like look who's Look who's down there? And
Speaker 2: who's down there? Like the last fifteen years, viven't people
Speaker 2: qual tricks people obviously now with Ryan Smith owning the
Speaker 2: jazz like, it's it is not hard to see where
Speaker 2: this thing is going, and it is. I don't know,
Speaker 2: maybe back I mean you used to go to jazz
Speaker 2: games back in the day. Maybe they once again.
Speaker 1: I still go to jazz games.
Speaker 2: I mean like, hey, he put you up to that.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like, does the doc exist in this
Speaker 2: generation of jazz fandom.
Speaker 1: I don't think so. No, It's it's look, it's a
Speaker 1: very depressing yet fair point trucks and Tesla's a lot
Speaker 1: of bedazzled jeans and spraight straight brim hats with dudes.
Speaker 1: It probably should leave the straight brim'. Is there anything
Speaker 1: more awkward than seeing like a dude in his mid
Speaker 1: fifties that is clearly holding on with steroids and fake
Speaker 1: tanning and bedazzle jeans and really tight shirts and a
Speaker 1: straight build baseball hat.
Speaker 2: It's like, it's like, dude, why do you want to
Speaker 2: look like me?
Speaker 1: It's really awkward.
Speaker 2: It's like I don't need a spray tan, but you
Speaker 2: don't need to look like me. Just look like yourself.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's a bad look, but it's look, man, I
Speaker 1: can't cover it like this. I just I can't do
Speaker 1: the thing where even though there's part of me that
Speaker 1: understands your point and believes that you're telling the truth,
Speaker 1: this is supposed to be the toy isle of life,
Speaker 1: and I can't just crack a microphone every day and say, hey, guys,
Speaker 1: just so you know, the ownership groups of the team
Speaker 1: that you love care about one thing, and that's creating
Speaker 1: shareholder value for their investors. Okay, good night, talk to
Speaker 1: you tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Like it can't be a we talk about all your
Speaker 2: last week, Spence. We did, We covered, we covered Isaiah.
Speaker 2: Maybe next week we can talk about Kyle Philipowski.
Speaker 1: Flip as we call.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Okay, So if you're a if you're a Jazz fan
Speaker 1: right now, if you're a football fan right now, and
Speaker 1: you're tuned into the program, okay, and you have suddenly become.
Speaker 2: Like this mfort again acutely.
Speaker 1: Aware that it doesn't matter how much you love this team,
Speaker 1: doesn't matter how much you want to see them do well,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what you invest in this team. The
Speaker 1: people in charge don't give a rip about you, and
Speaker 1: the people running these leagues only care about one thing,
Speaker 1: and that's creating shareholder value for their investors. What's what's
Speaker 1: going through your mind? If that's all that really there is,
Speaker 1: there's no reason to give a rip about any of it.
Speaker 2: Quite frankly, well, if you are as if you are
Speaker 2: a Utah sports fan, meaning that if you are a
Speaker 2: universe Utah or BYU sports fan, be happy because within
Speaker 2: the last thirty years you've been able to cheer on
Speaker 2: very good teams in a multitude of sports at a
Speaker 2: level that a lot of other colleges in this country
Speaker 2: don't ever reach, especially at your level. If you're a
Speaker 2: pro fan, if you're a fan of the Jazz or RSL,
Speaker 2: You've watched your your soccer team hosts hoist a title.
Speaker 2: You've watched your basketball team make the playoffs like twenty
Speaker 2: five out of thirty years. Like sorry, like again, I'm
Speaker 2: going to continue to beat this drum like you want
Speaker 2: to be. You want to know who's sad? Spence Charlotte
Speaker 2: Hornets fans like, come on, if you have no reason
Speaker 2: to be sad as a sports fan in Utah, you
Speaker 2: really don't.
Speaker 1: Well, But based off this conversation, you have no reason
Speaker 1: to be happy if you're a sports fan anywhere.
Speaker 2: The truth is always in the middle.
Speaker 1: It's so sad, I might as well start a radio
Speaker 1: show covering tech bros. Raising funds to start an app
Speaker 1: in San Francisco.
Speaker 2: No, what you're gonna do is you're gonna turn on
Speaker 2: the concer calf match on your laptop on Juice Man
Speaker 2: in thirty minutes, and you're gonna see what the shape
Speaker 2: looks like.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I like when RSL is playing.
Speaker 1: I enjoy the soccers, of course, you know, it's great.
Speaker 2: It takes up so much time. We need a distraction,
Speaker 2: and it can be bad, and it often is bad.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's good. Yeah, but what are we gonna do? Man,
Speaker 2: We're almost forty and forty, Like, what are we doing?
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm close to fifty broll coming up next month.
Speaker 1: I'll be much closer to fifty than i'm to forty.
Speaker 1: That's okay, I'm hanging in yeah, doing all right? All right, dude, Well.
Speaker 2: What's your prediction for the match tonight? One to one draw,
Speaker 2: bring home a point. My guy Diogo scores on a
Speaker 2: free kick. Free kick?
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, what do you think the what do
Speaker 1: you think the formation will be? I read you the
Speaker 1: starting eleven. They have four defenders.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it'll be I mean they'll go four two
Speaker 2: three one.
Speaker 1: Or two three one.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because our guy Forrester is the only striker. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're gonna bring in a striker before the start of
Speaker 1: the season.
Speaker 2: Well, the guy that they trade for that was going
Speaker 2: to be like the ideal replacement for Chichio decided he
Speaker 2: didn't want to come to Salt Lake and he was
Speaker 2: he was offended by the by the by the trades.
Speaker 2: Elias Manuel Oh I did not know. Yeah. Tom Bogert
Speaker 2: reported today that Elias Manuel did not understand the trade
Speaker 2: mechanisms within MLS and was unhappy when the Red Bulls
Speaker 2: decided to trade him.
Speaker 1: So translation, he didn't want to live.
Speaker 2: In Utah, he said, according to a statement provided to
Speaker 2: him provided to Tom by him, he has lots of
Speaker 2: respect for RSL, but he didn't want to be traded right, yeah.
Speaker 1: All right man, Well, illuminating stuff.
Speaker 2: Okay, the sun's coming out. We're good man, everybody's good.
Speaker 1: We might get fifty degrees this weekend. You to go
Speaker 1: golfing if there's a spot. The rotator cuff is ready.
Speaker 1: I can swing your cloth a right man. Six weeks
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