WEBVTT

1
00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:03.520
<v Speaker 1>Typically a Friday staple on the program, but Chris Camaradnie

2
00:00:03.520 --> 00:00:06.280
<v Speaker 1>Liven Studio stops by on this Wednesday afternoon for the

3
00:00:06.320 --> 00:00:09.919
<v Speaker 1>three o'clock hour. So you did watch Can Hardly Wait

4
00:00:10.359 --> 00:00:13.279
<v Speaker 1>lately recently, didn't you? Because that's this track is on

5
00:00:13.320 --> 00:00:14.359
<v Speaker 1>that soundtrack, I believe.

6
00:00:14.439 --> 00:00:19.679
<v Speaker 2>I think Graduate is on a different third hit, but

7
00:00:19.800 --> 00:00:21.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean they're all bangers.

8
00:00:21.640 --> 00:00:24.199
<v Speaker 1>Spence, so we were talking about this during the break.

9
00:00:24.280 --> 00:00:26.960
<v Speaker 1>Porter yesterday asked the question on air that honestly blew

10
00:00:27.000 --> 00:00:29.879
<v Speaker 1>my mind a little bit, so shout out to him

11
00:00:30.399 --> 00:00:34.920
<v Speaker 1>because I randomly the algorithm on Spotify was like, you're

12
00:00:34.920 --> 00:00:36.880
<v Speaker 1>in the mood to listen to Interstay love song by

13
00:00:36.880 --> 00:00:39.479
<v Speaker 1>Stone Temple Pilots today, Boom, here you go. And I

14
00:00:39.520 --> 00:00:41.359
<v Speaker 1>probably haven't heard that song in five or six years.

15
00:00:41.359 --> 00:00:43.159
<v Speaker 1>So I was like, oh, I like this song. This

16
00:00:43.240 --> 00:00:47.200
<v Speaker 1>is a good song. Stp fine, not great. So I

17
00:00:47.200 --> 00:00:49.200
<v Speaker 1>did the Spotify I know you you and Will Hardy

18
00:00:49.240 --> 00:00:53.240
<v Speaker 1>Apple Music. I did the Spotify thing where you can

19
00:00:53.320 --> 00:00:54.640
<v Speaker 1>pull up the song and then just go to the

20
00:00:54.759 --> 00:00:58.079
<v Speaker 1>radio station that will play other songs like that one,

21
00:00:58.520 --> 00:01:01.200
<v Speaker 1>and the algorithm tells you what you like. And it

22
00:01:01.280 --> 00:01:03.759
<v Speaker 1>was littered with nineties one hit Wonders, there was a

23
00:01:03.799 --> 00:01:07.560
<v Speaker 1>ton of Pearl Jam, there was Nirvana, stp and and

24
00:01:08.079 --> 00:01:10.280
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of Third Eye Blind as well. And

25
00:01:10.400 --> 00:01:12.879
<v Speaker 1>so when Porter brought that up, like how has this

26
00:01:13.000 --> 00:01:16.319
<v Speaker 1>music aged, I honestly don't know the answer, because I

27
00:01:16.319 --> 00:01:19.239
<v Speaker 1>don't know how many youngs are like Rocking Ram these days.

28
00:01:19.280 --> 00:01:21.840
<v Speaker 2>That's a good point. I would say that the nineties

29
00:01:22.000 --> 00:01:26.000
<v Speaker 2>were probably are probably overlooked in terms of what are

30
00:01:26.040 --> 00:01:28.640
<v Speaker 2>conceived to be oldies now. I would imagine the youngs

31
00:01:29.159 --> 00:01:33.519
<v Speaker 2>have their fair share of eighties music for the Michael

32
00:01:33.599 --> 00:01:37.000
<v Speaker 2>Jackson's the all that stuff. Probably the seventies as well.

33
00:01:37.359 --> 00:01:40.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. That's a great question. I know that

34
00:01:40.280 --> 00:01:43.760
<v Speaker 2>some youngs, like my youngest sister in law love's nineties

35
00:01:43.840 --> 00:01:45.439
<v Speaker 2>hip hop. How how old?

36
00:01:45.599 --> 00:01:47.319
<v Speaker 1>How twenty three?

37
00:01:47.519 --> 00:01:51.959
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so that resonates. But like if we're talking about,

38
00:01:52.120 --> 00:01:54.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, going to a coffee shop in the Avenues,

39
00:01:54.920 --> 00:01:57.319
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if one of the baristas there is like,

40
00:01:57.959 --> 00:02:02.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, crushing b sides of a Third Eye Blind

41
00:02:02.680 --> 00:02:04.680
<v Speaker 2>or you know depeche.

42
00:02:04.359 --> 00:02:09.039
<v Speaker 1>Mode Cafe on First a excellent spot, great spot, great breakfast, Breedo,

43
00:02:09.560 --> 00:02:11.479
<v Speaker 1>they can work on the wrapping of the brito. I'm

44
00:02:11.520 --> 00:02:13.159
<v Speaker 1>just gonna say that if you get like the extra

45
00:02:13.280 --> 00:02:14.319
<v Speaker 1>cream cheese and stuff, and.

46
00:02:15.840 --> 00:02:16.159
<v Speaker 2>They're not.

47
00:02:16.919 --> 00:02:19.000
<v Speaker 1>But no, it was actually making me think. And I'm

48
00:02:19.000 --> 00:02:20.639
<v Speaker 1>a little bit older than you, but you appreciate the

49
00:02:20.680 --> 00:02:24.680
<v Speaker 1>nineties first of all, Nineties hip hop is by far

50
00:02:24.960 --> 00:02:27.000
<v Speaker 1>the best decade. It's not even close. And if there

51
00:02:27.080 --> 00:02:29.360
<v Speaker 1>is another close decade, it's actually probably the eighties not

52
00:02:29.439 --> 00:02:31.560
<v Speaker 1>moving forward. So I'm glad to hear your sister in

53
00:02:31.639 --> 00:02:34.120
<v Speaker 1>law appreciates it. But you're a fan of the You're

54
00:02:34.120 --> 00:02:35.879
<v Speaker 1>a fan of the nineties, even though that you know

55
00:02:35.960 --> 00:02:38.960
<v Speaker 1>you're a older millennial. The best decade, decade? What do

56
00:02:39.039 --> 00:02:41.599
<v Speaker 1>you say? Off? Everything was great, Everything was good, love it.

57
00:02:44.120 --> 00:02:48.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, listen, I listened to the Rewatchables podcast Bill Simmons,

58
00:02:49.039 --> 00:02:51.639
<v Speaker 2>Kyle brand did Wayne's World, Oh Nice, and that is

59
00:02:51.840 --> 00:02:53.879
<v Speaker 2>you know, a top five movie for me all time.

60
00:02:54.639 --> 00:02:58.960
<v Speaker 2>And Kyle Brandt of the NFL Network is you know

61
00:02:59.520 --> 00:03:03.000
<v Speaker 2>a famous on on camera face And he told a

62
00:03:03.039 --> 00:03:09.599
<v Speaker 2>story how he got to interview the stars of Bohemian Rhapsody,

63
00:03:09.680 --> 00:03:12.479
<v Speaker 2>the movie starring Romy Malick like for some reason, they

64
00:03:12.479 --> 00:03:14.599
<v Speaker 2>went on NFL Network when the movie was coming out,

65
00:03:14.879 --> 00:03:17.000
<v Speaker 2>and he asked them what their relationship was to like

66
00:03:17.039 --> 00:03:19.879
<v Speaker 2>that song, and they were like, oh, we all learned

67
00:03:19.919 --> 00:03:22.319
<v Speaker 2>of it from Wayne's World, just like I did. And

68
00:03:22.400 --> 00:03:24.439
<v Speaker 2>I know that's a song from the eighties and Wayne's

69
00:03:24.479 --> 00:03:28.400
<v Speaker 2>World is a movie from the nineties. But yeah, man,

70
00:03:29.639 --> 00:03:31.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm on a tangent here, but watch Wayne's World.

71
00:03:32.599 --> 00:03:34.599
<v Speaker 2>To me, it's the most quotable movie of all time.

72
00:03:34.680 --> 00:03:36.159
<v Speaker 1>It's got to be up there. I want the ck

73
00:03:36.280 --> 00:03:38.360
<v Speaker 1>tangents all hour Man. And by the way, the most

74
00:03:38.400 --> 00:03:40.960
<v Speaker 1>gen x thing I'll say on the show today, Kyle

75
00:03:41.000 --> 00:03:44.000
<v Speaker 1>Brandt for me is Kyle Brant from the Real World,

76
00:03:44.240 --> 00:03:47.680
<v Speaker 1>Real Real World, Chicago, not from the NFL network. Okay,

77
00:03:47.759 --> 00:03:50.080
<v Speaker 1>Kyle Brant was on the Real World like twenty.

78
00:03:49.919 --> 00:03:53.039
<v Speaker 2>Years ago, and he was a soap opera guy. He was. Yeah,

79
00:03:53.039 --> 00:03:53.759
<v Speaker 2>that's right, yep.

80
00:03:54.159 --> 00:03:56.080
<v Speaker 1>But no, I mean, did you watch the Real World

81
00:03:56.159 --> 00:03:56.759
<v Speaker 1>back in the day.

82
00:03:56.840 --> 00:04:00.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I watched Real World Seattle, San francisc Seattle was good.

83
00:04:00.520 --> 00:04:02.879
<v Speaker 2>I was always a Real World guy. Over road Rules,

84
00:04:02.919 --> 00:04:03.120
<v Speaker 2>I was.

85
00:04:04.280 --> 00:04:05.240
<v Speaker 1>Road Rules came later.

86
00:04:05.280 --> 00:04:07.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then they did like a Real World versus

87
00:04:07.879 --> 00:04:12.919
<v Speaker 2>road Rules type thing. I mean for MTV used to

88
00:04:13.000 --> 00:04:15.719
<v Speaker 2>be really cool. Oh yeah, like I'm telling you it was.

89
00:04:16.319 --> 00:04:19.680
<v Speaker 2>I would get home from school, and I would go

90
00:04:20.160 --> 00:04:25.759
<v Speaker 2>watch Total Requests Live TRL Carson Daily three thirty pm. Absolutely,

91
00:04:25.839 --> 00:04:28.360
<v Speaker 2>and you know, you wanted to see what was going

92
00:04:28.399 --> 00:04:30.199
<v Speaker 2>to be the top video of the day, and so

93
00:04:30.360 --> 00:04:34.199
<v Speaker 2>often it was you know, your poppy in syncs, Christina Aguileras.

94
00:04:34.240 --> 00:04:36.040
<v Speaker 2>But every once in a while you had, you know,

95
00:04:36.079 --> 00:04:38.079
<v Speaker 2>a curveball and then you had a blink Win eighty

96
00:04:38.120 --> 00:04:40.439
<v Speaker 2>two or a green day or something, and it was

97
00:04:41.040 --> 00:04:43.199
<v Speaker 2>it used to it was a vibe, as the kids say,

98
00:04:43.240 --> 00:04:43.639
<v Speaker 2>back in the.

99
00:04:43.680 --> 00:04:46.959
<v Speaker 1>Day, MTV for a number of years ruled and it's

100
00:04:47.000 --> 00:04:50.240
<v Speaker 1>our generation, the generation now. First of all, I don't watch,

101
00:04:50.399 --> 00:04:52.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, anything outside of YouTube or their phones, but

102
00:04:53.360 --> 00:04:56.120
<v Speaker 1>you know TRL and I got to say, Real World

103
00:04:56.279 --> 00:04:58.879
<v Speaker 1>Road Rules Challenge. I loved it.

104
00:04:59.000 --> 00:05:03.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah that great. Yeah, VH one Behind the Music nice,

105
00:05:04.040 --> 00:05:06.439
<v Speaker 2>like bring that back for real though, Yes, like that

106
00:05:06.639 --> 00:05:11.759
<v Speaker 2>was almost like sixty minutes like for musical talent yep,

107
00:05:11.959 --> 00:05:15.160
<v Speaker 2>very fascinating stuff. Yeah, I would love them to a

108
00:05:15.160 --> 00:05:17.279
<v Speaker 2>different channel. But like stuff like that we need more

109
00:05:17.319 --> 00:05:17.720
<v Speaker 2>of now.

110
00:05:17.800 --> 00:05:20.000
<v Speaker 1>I totally agree there's not a lot of that out there,

111
00:05:20.040 --> 00:05:22.439
<v Speaker 1>and maybe there's some on YouTube that haven't discovered yet

112
00:05:22.879 --> 00:05:24.439
<v Speaker 1>because I need to maybe uh.

113
00:05:24.920 --> 00:05:26.839
<v Speaker 2>Might as well just go back and rewatch stuff because

114
00:05:27.399 --> 00:05:30.399
<v Speaker 2>we're so inundated with information that I'm sure we've forgotten

115
00:05:31.279 --> 00:05:33.319
<v Speaker 2>a billion things that we once knew, no doubt.

116
00:05:33.319 --> 00:05:37.319
<v Speaker 1>But nineties, okay, we're on the same page. Things of age, well, movies,

117
00:05:37.399 --> 00:05:40.519
<v Speaker 1>music and such. YouTube television is where we're able to

118
00:05:40.519 --> 00:05:42.399
<v Speaker 1>watch the lads today. Let's do a little bit on

119
00:05:42.439 --> 00:05:42.800
<v Speaker 1>the lads.

120
00:05:42.839 --> 00:05:46.800
<v Speaker 2>C K no on YouTube, not YouTube TV. It is

121
00:05:46.879 --> 00:05:50.279
<v Speaker 2>streaming on YouTube, but it's not on YouTube TV.

122
00:05:50.519 --> 00:05:54.199
<v Speaker 1>So RSL conk CAF Champions Cup in about one hour

123
00:05:54.279 --> 00:05:57.079
<v Speaker 1>twenty minutes streaming on YouTube.

124
00:05:56.560 --> 00:05:58.720
<v Speaker 2>And you can watch it on two b which is

125
00:05:58.759 --> 00:06:02.560
<v Speaker 2>a free app. Okay, but there's other there's other conker

126
00:06:02.639 --> 00:06:06.279
<v Speaker 2>CAF games on tonight. So Messi's playing, so they get

127
00:06:06.279 --> 00:06:09.360
<v Speaker 2>the main draw. I see. I think Seattle's in Honduras

128
00:06:09.439 --> 00:06:11.639
<v Speaker 2>or Guatemala, and there's there's a bunch of matches tonight.

129
00:06:11.680 --> 00:06:13.879
<v Speaker 2>I know last night you were grinding tape on on

130
00:06:14.199 --> 00:06:19.800
<v Speaker 2>rapids LAFC. But tonight, when the star is front and center,

131
00:06:19.959 --> 00:06:21.319
<v Speaker 2>everybody else's secondary.

132
00:06:21.480 --> 00:06:24.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and look there's no debate. I mean, obviously I've

133
00:06:24.519 --> 00:06:28.040
<v Speaker 1>talked about this before. When when you have a signing

134
00:06:28.120 --> 00:06:30.560
<v Speaker 1>like Lino Messi, I mean, I draw the parallel to Beckham,

135
00:06:30.720 --> 00:06:34.800
<v Speaker 1>even though worldwide there's really no comparison. I mean, hell,

136
00:06:34.920 --> 00:06:37.319
<v Speaker 1>Trey came on the show and compared them to Jesus. Okay.

137
00:06:37.399 --> 00:06:38.279
<v Speaker 1>So that's where the.

138
00:06:38.240 --> 00:06:40.360
<v Speaker 2>Message to some people that literally is.

139
00:06:40.360 --> 00:06:42.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that's what I'm saying, Like, I don't think

140
00:06:42.560 --> 00:06:45.560
<v Speaker 1>and I'll only speak for myself. I've been overseas and

141
00:06:45.600 --> 00:06:48.160
<v Speaker 1>attended games in the EPL, and when you do that,

142
00:06:48.439 --> 00:06:50.759
<v Speaker 1>you open yourself up to an entire new world. On

143
00:06:50.800 --> 00:06:53.279
<v Speaker 1>a number of different reasons. First of all, you say, oh,

144
00:06:53.439 --> 00:06:56.639
<v Speaker 1>soccer can look like that all. Do you respect MLS

145
00:06:56.879 --> 00:06:58.319
<v Speaker 1>thirty years old, a dumb.

146
00:06:58.160 --> 00:07:01.720
<v Speaker 2>Weird league and the and only getting dumber. Yes in

147
00:07:02.000 --> 00:07:02.839
<v Speaker 2>some areas.

148
00:07:02.959 --> 00:07:05.639
<v Speaker 1>Quality of play improving, certainly, but a league that is

149
00:07:05.680 --> 00:07:07.800
<v Speaker 1>just dumb in so many in its own way it

150
00:07:07.839 --> 00:07:10.399
<v Speaker 1>is it is, and the quality improving. But when you

151
00:07:10.519 --> 00:07:13.439
<v Speaker 1>actually see what it looks like in the Premiership, and

152
00:07:13.600 --> 00:07:15.519
<v Speaker 1>you know, I've never been to like Bundesliga, La Liga

153
00:07:15.600 --> 00:07:18.240
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, but I've seen it on television, you realize

154
00:07:18.240 --> 00:07:20.360
<v Speaker 1>that soccer can look like that and that's why it

155
00:07:20.399 --> 00:07:23.399
<v Speaker 1>is the world's game. But you also realize that I

156
00:07:23.480 --> 00:07:25.720
<v Speaker 1>don't think many of us in this country have an

157
00:07:25.800 --> 00:07:30.160
<v Speaker 1>accurate idea of just how big this game is and

158
00:07:30.199 --> 00:07:33.439
<v Speaker 1>how massively popular these players are when you actually leave

159
00:07:33.439 --> 00:07:35.759
<v Speaker 1>our borders. I'm not sure that we really have proper content.

160
00:07:35.800 --> 00:07:38.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean the easiest comp would be our American

161
00:07:38.879 --> 00:07:41.560
<v Speaker 2>football because that runs the show in this country and

162
00:07:41.720 --> 00:07:45.920
<v Speaker 2>probably will forever. But yeah, I mean it's it's still

163
00:07:45.920 --> 00:07:49.199
<v Speaker 2>insane to me. I think Miami's playing another MLS team

164
00:07:49.319 --> 00:07:52.839
<v Speaker 2>in conker Caf tonight, but like it's still hilarious that

165
00:07:52.920 --> 00:07:57.199
<v Speaker 2>Messi brought his buddies to Miami and brought another great

166
00:07:57.319 --> 00:08:00.439
<v Speaker 2>Argentine who he played with at Barcelona to their head

167
00:08:00.439 --> 00:08:03.240
<v Speaker 2>coach too. So it's like it's Messi's show and MLS

168
00:08:03.279 --> 00:08:05.959
<v Speaker 2>and you're right, like the star power that he wields

169
00:08:06.160 --> 00:08:13.519
<v Speaker 2>is I mean, Lebron, Kobe Michael, those are those are

170
00:08:13.560 --> 00:08:16.000
<v Speaker 2>the guys. I mean, did we like, who is the

171
00:08:16.040 --> 00:08:18.839
<v Speaker 2>most famous American football player? Is it Brady?

172
00:08:19.519 --> 00:08:21.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure, yeah, it's probably still Tom Brady. Yeah, but

173
00:08:22.079 --> 00:08:24.879
<v Speaker 1>like currently active. No, I'm saying, like in our in

174
00:08:24.920 --> 00:08:28.279
<v Speaker 1>our lifetime, yeah, it's probably Brady. I mean I think.

175
00:08:27.639 --> 00:08:32.360
<v Speaker 2>If Tom Brady goes to Peru or if he goes

176
00:08:32.440 --> 00:08:36.600
<v Speaker 2>to gabone or if he goes to Sri Lanka, nobody's

177
00:08:36.879 --> 00:08:38.240
<v Speaker 2>freaking out if they seem more.

178
00:08:38.200 --> 00:08:40.440
<v Speaker 1>Right on the streets. Right in the NFL, you know,

179
00:08:40.559 --> 00:08:42.559
<v Speaker 1>there are rumors that they're going to try to expand

180
00:08:42.600 --> 00:08:46.480
<v Speaker 1>internationally Mexico City and Europe and such. I don't like

181
00:08:46.559 --> 00:08:49.720
<v Speaker 1>why it's never been embraced overseas. I think it's a

182
00:08:49.799 --> 00:08:51.600
<v Speaker 1>very uniquely American Yeah.

183
00:08:51.559 --> 00:08:52.279
<v Speaker 2>Well everything else.

184
00:08:52.320 --> 00:08:54.159
<v Speaker 1>But they don't need it. They don't, you know, like

185
00:08:54.240 --> 00:08:57.639
<v Speaker 1>the NFL doesn't. The NBA very much needs international revenue

186
00:08:57.679 --> 00:09:02.360
<v Speaker 1>streams to kind of offset the domestic apathy. That's a

187
00:09:02.360 --> 00:09:04.720
<v Speaker 1>great word right to the product during the regular season

188
00:09:04.759 --> 00:09:07.120
<v Speaker 1>where players just don't really seem to care at all.

189
00:09:07.159 --> 00:09:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Did you watch one second of All Star Weekend?

190
00:09:09.000 --> 00:09:11.120
<v Speaker 2>I did not have you ever? Oh yeah, so you

191
00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:12.919
<v Speaker 2>to fan. Back back in the day when I was

192
00:09:12.960 --> 00:09:16.039
<v Speaker 2>single and sad and didn't have much of a life,

193
00:09:16.639 --> 00:09:18.759
<v Speaker 2>I would you know, fire up a you know, Kraft

194
00:09:18.759 --> 00:09:19.759
<v Speaker 2>mac and Cheese and watch the.

195
00:09:19.799 --> 00:09:23.799
<v Speaker 1>Dunk contest Antinoe Pizza.

196
00:09:24.279 --> 00:09:28.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, or or you know, during my super sad days,

197
00:09:28.480 --> 00:09:30.639
<v Speaker 2>I would go to Cafe Rio and get a giant

198
00:09:30.960 --> 00:09:34.240
<v Speaker 2>two thousand calorie salad and you know, watch a dunk contest,

199
00:09:34.440 --> 00:09:37.879
<v Speaker 2>but it hasn't been. I mean, it's ironic that they

200
00:09:37.919 --> 00:09:40.240
<v Speaker 2>had it in San Francisco, which is the last time

201
00:09:40.399 --> 00:09:42.960
<v Speaker 2>I thought the dunk contest was worth a damn twenty

202
00:09:42.960 --> 00:09:44.960
<v Speaker 2>five years ago, when I was like fifteen years.

203
00:09:45.120 --> 00:09:46.799
<v Speaker 1>And that dunk contest was something else.

204
00:09:46.840 --> 00:09:51.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I mean, and now it's all gimmicks and

205
00:09:51.879 --> 00:09:53.840
<v Speaker 2>you know it's fine, you don't. We don't need to

206
00:09:53.840 --> 00:09:56.559
<v Speaker 2>go over NBA All Star hot takes by c K today.

207
00:09:56.559 --> 00:09:59.240
<v Speaker 1>Now, I am honestly wondering, as somebody who makes his

208
00:09:59.320 --> 00:10:01.679
<v Speaker 1>living in the world sports, if it even resonated with you,

209
00:10:01.799 --> 00:10:02.639
<v Speaker 1>I guy, I should.

210
00:10:02.360 --> 00:10:06.039
<v Speaker 2>Turn this on. I mean, is it shallow to say

211
00:10:06.039 --> 00:10:08.799
<v Speaker 2>that if there were star talent in the dunk contest

212
00:10:08.840 --> 00:10:10.240
<v Speaker 2>that I would probably tune in?

213
00:10:10.919 --> 00:10:11.080
<v Speaker 1>No?

214
00:10:11.320 --> 00:10:13.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, Matt, that that to me is more

215
00:10:13.360 --> 00:10:14.320
<v Speaker 2>intriguing than the game.

216
00:10:14.440 --> 00:10:16.519
<v Speaker 1>Well, and it's one of the things that's changed. And

217
00:10:16.559 --> 00:10:18.679
<v Speaker 1>I hate to put all of this on Lebron. It

218
00:10:18.720 --> 00:10:22.399
<v Speaker 1>sounds like I am and Mac McClung is a tremendously

219
00:10:22.519 --> 00:10:25.360
<v Speaker 1>talented dunker, but he's a G League player that most

220
00:10:25.360 --> 00:10:27.360
<v Speaker 1>people have never heard of, and he looks like your

221
00:10:27.360 --> 00:10:29.279
<v Speaker 1>little brother's friend that came over to try to steal

222
00:10:29.320 --> 00:10:34.080
<v Speaker 1>your uncrustables. He just looks like a dude. But Lebron

223
00:10:34.120 --> 00:10:36.960
<v Speaker 1>I think was kind because Kobe won the dunk contest.

224
00:10:37.039 --> 00:10:37.799
<v Speaker 1>He may have won a toy.

225
00:10:37.840 --> 00:10:39.720
<v Speaker 2>He was really young though, right that was it was

226
00:10:39.799 --> 00:10:40.960
<v Speaker 2>before he got famous.

227
00:10:41.240 --> 00:10:44.360
<v Speaker 1>Well, sure, but he did win it twice, and I

228
00:10:44.399 --> 00:10:46.639
<v Speaker 1>do think the second time he wanted he was kind

229
00:10:46.639 --> 00:10:48.440
<v Speaker 1>of evolving into one of the better players and league.

230
00:10:48.480 --> 00:10:49.799
<v Speaker 1>I think the first time he was in it, he

231
00:10:49.840 --> 00:10:51.960
<v Speaker 1>was a rookie to your point, the same rookie that

232
00:10:52.000 --> 00:10:55.360
<v Speaker 1>airballed like five three share in Salt Lake. But I mean,

233
00:10:56.279 --> 00:10:58.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, when Lebron kind of burst on the scene.

234
00:10:58.559 --> 00:11:01.080
<v Speaker 1>I can remember when you know, people who covered the

235
00:11:01.159 --> 00:11:03.240
<v Speaker 1>league we're talking about. It was almost like this right

236
00:11:03.360 --> 00:11:07.120
<v Speaker 1>of passage. Mike did it, Kobe did it, and now

237
00:11:07.159 --> 00:11:09.840
<v Speaker 1>it's Lebron's turn because he's dunking on people, so he

238
00:11:09.879 --> 00:11:11.799
<v Speaker 1>has to be able to dunk in a dunk contest.

239
00:11:11.840 --> 00:11:14.440
<v Speaker 1>Really well, he never had any interest.

240
00:11:14.519 --> 00:11:17.039
<v Speaker 2>He never he wanted Brons too. Smart man, he was

241
00:11:17.120 --> 00:11:20.120
<v Speaker 2>never going to open himself up to potentially lose on

242
00:11:20.159 --> 00:11:22.679
<v Speaker 2>that stage, and they probably wouldn't have let him lose.

243
00:11:22.879 --> 00:11:24.399
<v Speaker 1>Is that smart? Though, or is it weak.

244
00:11:25.320 --> 00:11:29.240
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it depends. Pete Man, it's a dunk contest.

245
00:11:29.320 --> 00:11:31.440
<v Speaker 2>I I agree with you. I'm just telling you through

246
00:11:31.440 --> 00:11:34.159
<v Speaker 2>the lens of how the current modern player thinks. And

247
00:11:34.519 --> 00:11:38.320
<v Speaker 2>everybody blames Lebron. At the end of the day, everything's

248
00:11:38.320 --> 00:11:40.840
<v Speaker 2>about money. You're going, how are you going to be

249
00:11:40.879 --> 00:11:46.639
<v Speaker 2>the most marketable to brands? Don't put yourself in any

250
00:11:46.679 --> 00:11:51.840
<v Speaker 2>sort of precarious position publicly, privately, even on something, as

251
00:11:52.600 --> 00:11:56.399
<v Speaker 2>you know, inconsequential as a dunk contest. That's that's the way.

252
00:11:56.559 --> 00:11:59.759
<v Speaker 2>That's the way most professional players are, especially in the.

253
00:11:59.759 --> 00:12:02.360
<v Speaker 1>NBA, and it's the way they are now. And I

254
00:12:02.559 --> 00:12:05.000
<v Speaker 1>just need to stop being like, hey, it used to

255
00:12:05.039 --> 00:12:07.919
<v Speaker 1>be different. And the reason why I continue to bring

256
00:12:07.960 --> 00:12:09.960
<v Speaker 1>this up topically it's different than the Pro Bowl because

257
00:12:09.960 --> 00:12:11.480
<v Speaker 1>I've had a few guests like, hey, well what about

258
00:12:11.519 --> 00:12:13.559
<v Speaker 1>the Pro Bowl. Nobody watches the Pro Bowl. Here's the difference.

259
00:12:13.600 --> 00:12:16.120
<v Speaker 1>The Pro Bowl has never been good. It was never good,

260
00:12:16.159 --> 00:12:18.879
<v Speaker 1>it was never competitive. The All Star Game, for like

261
00:12:18.960 --> 00:12:21.600
<v Speaker 1>thirty years, was the best pickup basketball game in the

262
00:12:21.639 --> 00:12:24.000
<v Speaker 1>world because the best players showed up and they played

263
00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:26.440
<v Speaker 1>hard and they tried to win. And so when you

264
00:12:26.559 --> 00:12:29.679
<v Speaker 1>juxtaposed the two products. Now it's maybe it's just a

265
00:12:29.720 --> 00:12:31.840
<v Speaker 1>selfish thing that I missed this game that I used

266
00:12:31.840 --> 00:12:34.919
<v Speaker 1>to love, and now because I turned it on, I

267
00:12:35.039 --> 00:12:40.639
<v Speaker 1>watched it and it was it wasn't just the format

268
00:12:40.679 --> 00:12:44.639
<v Speaker 1>and the games that were frustrating. It was the television presentation.

269
00:12:44.720 --> 00:12:47.360
<v Speaker 1>We got thirty minutes of Kevin Hart making fun of

270
00:12:47.440 --> 00:12:50.279
<v Speaker 1>Shaq's turtleneck. What am I watching?

271
00:12:50.600 --> 00:12:50.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

272
00:12:51.159 --> 00:12:53.879
<v Speaker 1>And if you're a player, Chris, and you play a game,

273
00:12:53.919 --> 00:12:55.919
<v Speaker 1>and you play hard for about fifteen minutes to try

274
00:12:55.919 --> 00:12:58.799
<v Speaker 1>to win, and then they come over the side and

275
00:12:58.879 --> 00:13:01.320
<v Speaker 1>say they say, hey, okay, you're gonna have to sit

276
00:13:01.399 --> 00:13:04.639
<v Speaker 1>here now for twenty or thirty minutes. Kevin Hart stand up.

277
00:13:04.840 --> 00:13:06.840
<v Speaker 1>They interviewed Jokic and then like, hey, what'd you do

278
00:13:06.919 --> 00:13:08.240
<v Speaker 1>during the break? He's like, I got tight.

279
00:13:08.320 --> 00:13:11.440
<v Speaker 2>That's how you get hurt exactly. Yeah. No, I don't

280
00:13:11.480 --> 00:13:14.279
<v Speaker 2>know how people didn't think that through. Yeah, that is

281
00:13:14.320 --> 00:13:18.639
<v Speaker 2>the quintessential, Like, if you're going to play, play otherwise,

282
00:13:18.759 --> 00:13:21.200
<v Speaker 2>do not do that because the chances of you getting

283
00:13:21.240 --> 00:13:24.120
<v Speaker 2>a muscle pull or a tweak or something are so

284
00:13:24.279 --> 00:13:27.240
<v Speaker 2>much higher if you play for fifteen or twenty minutes

285
00:13:27.240 --> 00:13:28.519
<v Speaker 2>then have to sit for an hour and a half

286
00:13:28.559 --> 00:13:29.360
<v Speaker 2>and then play again.

287
00:13:29.200 --> 00:13:32.879
<v Speaker 1>One hundred percent. And any pickup soccer player knows this.

288
00:13:32.919 --> 00:13:35.240
<v Speaker 1>You don't have to be a high level athlete. Kevin

289
00:13:35.279 --> 00:13:36.600
<v Speaker 1>Hart funny, yes or no.

290
00:13:38.679 --> 00:13:41.720
<v Speaker 2>Kevin Hart was funny on forty year old virgin See,

291
00:13:42.039 --> 00:13:46.919
<v Speaker 2>But like as a stand up I don't think, yeah, no, I'm.

292
00:13:45.679 --> 00:13:49.279
<v Speaker 1>The stand up stuff is like there are two.

293
00:13:48.720 --> 00:13:51.799
<v Speaker 2>He's he's really good at making money in Hollywood.

294
00:13:51.840 --> 00:13:54.120
<v Speaker 1>He works his tail. I respect his grind and I

295
00:13:54.200 --> 00:13:56.480
<v Speaker 1>respect anybody who works as that's what people.

296
00:13:56.279 --> 00:13:58.080
<v Speaker 2>Want to listen to. The drive about is are Kevin

297
00:13:58.080 --> 00:13:58.759
<v Speaker 2>Heart takes.

298
00:13:58.559 --> 00:14:01.080
<v Speaker 1>Well in the grind and they respect my grind? Last night,

299
00:14:01.120 --> 00:14:03.159
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm kind of the Kevin the local sports

300
00:14:03.200 --> 00:14:05.440
<v Speaker 1>soccer radio scene. It's not a big deal, but I

301
00:14:05.480 --> 00:14:09.120
<v Speaker 1>respect the grind. The stand up is horrible, and to

302
00:14:09.360 --> 00:14:11.799
<v Speaker 1>force feed that to people I think was really blind

303
00:14:11.799 --> 00:14:14.440
<v Speaker 1>and misguided. Like there were a couple of funny moments

304
00:14:14.480 --> 00:14:16.519
<v Speaker 1>here there, but not near enough. And I'm not tuned

305
00:14:16.559 --> 00:14:18.799
<v Speaker 1>in to watch a stand up comedy show. There are

306
00:14:18.799 --> 00:14:21.120
<v Speaker 1>two stand up comics that make me feel old and

307
00:14:21.120 --> 00:14:23.279
<v Speaker 1>not be able to relate to young people. Kevin Hart

308
00:14:23.440 --> 00:14:26.799
<v Speaker 1>and Pete Davidson. Pete Davidson has never said anything funny

309
00:14:26.919 --> 00:14:29.080
<v Speaker 1>in the entire.

310
00:14:29.840 --> 00:14:32.720
<v Speaker 2>He's good in movies. He's good in movies. Fing of

311
00:14:32.720 --> 00:14:35.440
<v Speaker 2>Staten Islands, No, hey, come on, let's go there.

312
00:14:35.519 --> 00:14:39.399
<v Speaker 1>No, No, I'm not watching King of Staten Island because

313
00:14:39.440 --> 00:14:44.399
<v Speaker 1>Pete Davidson is so he's people not when it comes

314
00:14:44.440 --> 00:14:47.360
<v Speaker 1>to Pete Davidson, because this is a disconnect. I've never

315
00:14:47.720 --> 00:14:50.159
<v Speaker 1>heard him say anything that's funny. I've never seen him

316
00:14:50.159 --> 00:14:53.080
<v Speaker 1>do an impression that's clever. I have no idea why

317
00:14:53.120 --> 00:14:54.960
<v Speaker 1>he was on SNL. I think he's a total hack.

318
00:14:55.159 --> 00:14:57.639
<v Speaker 1>When it comes to Kevin hart and Pete Davidson.

319
00:14:57.279 --> 00:14:59.639
<v Speaker 2>On my man, there's got to be one. There's got

320
00:14:59.679 --> 00:15:01.879
<v Speaker 2>to be one Pete Davidson type. What do you think

321
00:15:01.919 --> 00:15:04.480
<v Speaker 2>got more viewership the SNL fifty or the All Star.

322
00:15:04.320 --> 00:15:05.240
<v Speaker 1>Game SNL fifty?

323
00:15:05.320 --> 00:15:05.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

324
00:15:05.559 --> 00:15:06.679
<v Speaker 1>Did you watch by the way.

325
00:15:06.559 --> 00:15:09.159
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, it's good, right, absolutely, see, it was awesome.

326
00:15:09.240 --> 00:15:11.360
<v Speaker 2>I got I got choked up during Sandler's song Man,

327
00:15:11.480 --> 00:15:17.039
<v Speaker 2>that was great. Sandler nobody carries I think the weight

328
00:15:17.240 --> 00:15:20.879
<v Speaker 2>of the people that brought him along the way Sandler

329
00:15:20.919 --> 00:15:24.320
<v Speaker 2>does to this day, Like the way he talks about

330
00:15:24.399 --> 00:15:28.440
<v Speaker 2>guys like Farley and Hartman and just those guys like

331
00:15:28.480 --> 00:15:30.360
<v Speaker 2>you can tell that it still weighs on him thirty

332
00:15:30.440 --> 00:15:35.039
<v Speaker 2>thirty five years later. And it's cool because I mean,

333
00:15:35.120 --> 00:15:37.320
<v Speaker 2>here we are talking about SNL and sports talk radio,

334
00:15:37.360 --> 00:15:39.720
<v Speaker 2>which is totally fine. Peyton Manning, Peyton Manning was.

335
00:15:39.720 --> 00:15:42.039
<v Speaker 1>There Drive two to six man Yeah, you know the.

336
00:15:42.480 --> 00:15:47.039
<v Speaker 2>Gotta feel some air. Yeah. I I the SNL fifty

337
00:15:47.120 --> 00:15:50.799
<v Speaker 2>was amazing. And if you gave me the two options

338
00:15:50.840 --> 00:15:57.879
<v Speaker 2>between watching a team of who who was on the

339
00:15:58.639 --> 00:16:02.039
<v Speaker 2>George no, no offense to your guy Kyante. If you

340
00:16:02.039 --> 00:16:07.000
<v Speaker 2>gave me the chance to watch Kiante George play Victor

341
00:16:07.000 --> 00:16:10.360
<v Speaker 2>wembin Yama or watch SNL fifty, I'll take SNL fifty

342
00:16:10.879 --> 00:16:11.879
<v Speaker 2>ten times out of ten.

343
00:16:12.679 --> 00:16:14.360
<v Speaker 1>Hard to argue with that, and I think the numbers

344
00:16:14.399 --> 00:16:18.000
<v Speaker 1>would back you up. Best SNL cast member of all time.

345
00:16:18.039 --> 00:16:19.720
<v Speaker 1>You have a hot take on that. You can throw

346
00:16:19.759 --> 00:16:20.600
<v Speaker 1>a few names out there.

347
00:16:20.679 --> 00:16:24.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean, my generation was I got I had Farrell

348
00:16:24.559 --> 00:16:27.960
<v Speaker 2>was my generation, so I'll go Ferrell. But like, I'm

349
00:16:28.000 --> 00:16:33.559
<v Speaker 2>old enough that my friend's siblings bought the old best

350
00:16:33.679 --> 00:16:37.879
<v Speaker 2>of VHS tapes of like Farley and Dana Carvey and

351
00:16:37.919 --> 00:16:41.759
<v Speaker 2>Mike Meyers, so we would watch those on VHS because

352
00:16:42.879 --> 00:16:45.799
<v Speaker 2>we missed that era, like and I mean some of

353
00:16:46.000 --> 00:16:48.080
<v Speaker 2>some of those sketches, man just kill me still. I

354
00:16:48.120 --> 00:16:51.039
<v Speaker 2>mean it's they're so amazing. But I'll go Ferrell because

355
00:16:51.080 --> 00:16:52.200
<v Speaker 2>that was my wheelhouse.

356
00:16:52.360 --> 00:16:54.720
<v Speaker 1>See to me, it's Farley. Yeah, you know that's because

357
00:16:54.759 --> 00:16:57.960
<v Speaker 1>that's my era. The Dana Carvey, Adam Sandler, Al Frankin,

358
00:16:57.960 --> 00:17:03.159
<v Speaker 1>tim Meadows, tim Meadows, wild underrated, Phil Hartman, wildly underrated.

359
00:17:02.679 --> 00:17:03.240
<v Speaker 2>Rest in People.

360
00:17:03.279 --> 00:17:05.880
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, and you brought this up off air, which I

361
00:17:05.880 --> 00:17:08.519
<v Speaker 1>think is spot on. And actually there's a sports parallel

362
00:17:08.559 --> 00:17:13.200
<v Speaker 1>because whichever generation you came up in, that's who you

363
00:17:13.240 --> 00:17:16.559
<v Speaker 1>think the best SNL cast is. Like, you know, I'll

364
00:17:16.599 --> 00:17:20.160
<v Speaker 1>have even parents or family members talk about Eddie Murphy

365
00:17:20.200 --> 00:17:24.200
<v Speaker 1>and talk about and yeah that, and it's hard to

366
00:17:24.279 --> 00:17:26.519
<v Speaker 1>argue with that. I don't think a lot of it

367
00:17:26.559 --> 00:17:29.079
<v Speaker 1>has aged super well and it doesn't land the way

368
00:17:29.079 --> 00:17:31.640
<v Speaker 1>with me that it did with them. But there are

369
00:17:32.039 --> 00:17:34.519
<v Speaker 1>back to not relating to the youngs. There are plenty

370
00:17:34.519 --> 00:17:37.119
<v Speaker 1>of youngs that don't think Adam Sandler is funny because,

371
00:17:37.480 --> 00:17:40.279
<v Speaker 1>in their defense, he has made a lot of really

372
00:17:40.319 --> 00:17:43.039
<v Speaker 1>bad movies over the past. But here's what I love

373
00:17:43.079 --> 00:17:46.200
<v Speaker 1>about him. I think he doesn't really give a rip

374
00:17:46.480 --> 00:17:49.839
<v Speaker 1>like he employs his family, he employs his friends. He's

375
00:17:49.880 --> 00:17:52.359
<v Speaker 1>made hundreds of millions of dollars with his company. Is

376
00:17:52.400 --> 00:17:53.079
<v Speaker 1>at Happy.

377
00:17:52.799 --> 00:17:57.440
<v Speaker 2>Madison pickup basketball players great? Well, I mean, I mean

378
00:17:57.640 --> 00:18:00.880
<v Speaker 2>gets involved in great pickup games.

379
00:18:01.599 --> 00:18:04.000
<v Speaker 1>I think, living a life like Adam Sandler, it seems

380
00:18:04.079 --> 00:18:04.799
<v Speaker 1>very appealing to me.

381
00:18:06.400 --> 00:18:11.119
<v Speaker 2>As if there are legit Sandler haters in the world.

382
00:18:12.039 --> 00:18:15.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean, listen, man, We're in a world of pain

383
00:18:15.720 --> 00:18:18.359
<v Speaker 2>and on a multitude of reasons. But everybody just needs

384
00:18:18.400 --> 00:18:18.960
<v Speaker 2>to calm.

385
00:18:18.759 --> 00:18:21.119
<v Speaker 1>Down, yes, and just enjoy the thing that's in front

386
00:18:21.119 --> 00:18:23.079
<v Speaker 1>of you for what it is, unless it's the All

387
00:18:23.079 --> 00:18:24.279
<v Speaker 1>Star Game, because it's horrible.

388
00:18:25.079 --> 00:18:26.640
<v Speaker 2>That's called the transition, kids.

389
00:18:26.440 --> 00:18:28.440
<v Speaker 1>It is and we'll catch a break. But coming up next,

390
00:18:28.519 --> 00:18:30.799
<v Speaker 1>we'll move on from this stuff because there are college

391
00:18:30.799 --> 00:18:33.880
<v Speaker 1>football topics to talk about today, with Christopher Camaradie, the

392
00:18:34.519 --> 00:18:37.559
<v Speaker 1>Big ten in the SEC currently meeting in New Orleans

393
00:18:38.039 --> 00:18:41.160
<v Speaker 1>plotting a hostile takeover. Is that traumatic, Well, we'll tell you

394
00:18:41.200 --> 00:18:42.640
<v Speaker 1>about it coming up next. Brought to you by our

395
00:18:42.680 --> 00:18:44.599
<v Speaker 1>good friends at Prize Picks. It is the best place

396
00:18:44.640 --> 00:18:47.039
<v Speaker 1>to get a real money sports action. With over ten

397
00:18:47.039 --> 00:18:49.599
<v Speaker 1>million members and billions of dollars in awarded winnings. Prize

398
00:18:49.599 --> 00:18:53.240
<v Speaker 1>Picks has made daily fantasy sports accessible to all. All

399
00:18:53.240 --> 00:18:54.759
<v Speaker 1>you do is pick more or less on at least

400
00:18:54.759 --> 00:18:56.680
<v Speaker 1>two players. For shots went up to one thousand times

401
00:18:56.720 --> 00:18:58.319
<v Speaker 1>your cash. You can run your game all season a

402
00:18:58.319 --> 00:19:00.079
<v Speaker 1>long on prize picks. You can run up to one

403
00:19:00.079 --> 00:19:02.240
<v Speaker 1>thousand times your money on prize Picks with the second

404
00:19:02.279 --> 00:19:05.880
<v Speaker 1>half of the basketball season starting tonight. Best wait, best

405
00:19:05.880 --> 00:19:08.920
<v Speaker 1>way to get action on sports in more than thirty states,

406
00:19:08.920 --> 00:19:12.720
<v Speaker 1>including California, Texas, Georgia, Florida, and Utah. Download that prize

407
00:19:12.720 --> 00:19:15.759
<v Speaker 1>picks out today. Use the promo code ESPN seven hundred.

408
00:19:15.759 --> 00:19:19.279
<v Speaker 1>You get fifty dollars instantly when you play just five dollars.

409
00:19:19.359 --> 00:19:21.880
<v Speaker 1>Don't even need to win to receive that fifty dollars bonus.

410
00:19:21.880 --> 00:19:25.599
<v Speaker 1>It's guaranteed. Morke coming up next on a Wednesday, right

411
00:19:25.640 --> 00:19:31.519
<v Speaker 1>here on ESPN seven hundred, about an hour away from

412
00:19:31.680 --> 00:19:35.680
<v Speaker 1>first kick. I know you guys are pumped. I know

413
00:19:35.720 --> 00:19:37.799
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to sports Soccer radio in February, you

414
00:19:37.839 --> 00:19:42.839
<v Speaker 1>want to talk Conker Cap Champions Cup rsl Aradianto first

415
00:19:42.920 --> 00:19:47.960
<v Speaker 1>round aggregate comes into play here. Have you ever been

416
00:19:47.960 --> 00:19:49.640
<v Speaker 1>to a soccer game? Down in Central America.

417
00:19:49.759 --> 00:19:52.359
<v Speaker 2>I have no mcl got to go cover that run

418
00:19:52.759 --> 00:19:56.279
<v Speaker 2>the goat and he said it was insane. That was

419
00:19:56.319 --> 00:20:01.160
<v Speaker 2>our guy, mcl He's good man, had some kids and

420
00:20:01.599 --> 00:20:04.759
<v Speaker 2>just live in the dream. We miss him, Michael C.

421
00:20:04.880 --> 00:20:09.000
<v Speaker 2>Lewis for the uninitiated, good people, I can remember.

422
00:20:09.039 --> 00:20:11.599
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna have Bill on today. Actually, I think the

423
00:20:11.640 --> 00:20:15.960
<v Speaker 1>first game that Bill called in Central America, he was

424
00:20:16.000 --> 00:20:19.400
<v Speaker 1>with Donny. Yeah, and Donny was like, dude, just walk

425
00:20:19.480 --> 00:20:22.039
<v Speaker 1>up the stairs, don't look left or right. Yep, let's

426
00:20:22.079 --> 00:20:25.200
<v Speaker 1>get to the broadcast booth and let's stay safe and

427
00:20:25.319 --> 00:20:27.839
<v Speaker 1>during the broadcast, and we'll get Bill to tell these stories.

428
00:20:27.880 --> 00:20:32.480
<v Speaker 1>If I remember correctly, the fans were throwing like batteries

429
00:20:32.519 --> 00:20:33.079
<v Speaker 1>at them.

430
00:20:32.920 --> 00:20:36.440
<v Speaker 2>Cool as they were trying. Yeah, I mean it just

431
00:20:36.519 --> 00:20:37.279
<v Speaker 2>means more.

432
00:20:38.799 --> 00:20:41.960
<v Speaker 1>Cool. He says, could do some damage at some point.

433
00:20:42.039 --> 00:20:45.759
<v Speaker 2>I mean that Bill's already miss Midwest man.

434
00:20:45.839 --> 00:20:47.799
<v Speaker 1>No, that's fair. Bill can take a couple of batteries

435
00:20:47.839 --> 00:20:51.240
<v Speaker 1>to the dome. Uh. In any college hoops these days,

436
00:20:51.240 --> 00:20:52.920
<v Speaker 1>you watch any college basketball.

437
00:20:52.480 --> 00:20:55.440
<v Speaker 2>You'll be proud of me. I watch some of both

438
00:20:55.480 --> 00:20:59.559
<v Speaker 2>of the Kansas losses to our local teams this week.

439
00:20:59.440 --> 00:21:03.519
<v Speaker 1>Wildly, and Kansas did not lead for one second while

440
00:21:03.519 --> 00:21:04.319
<v Speaker 1>they were here in state.

441
00:21:04.440 --> 00:21:10.559
<v Speaker 2>So my take is Kansas sucks because I watched I

442
00:21:10.599 --> 00:21:12.000
<v Speaker 2>had to cover them when they were here in the

443
00:21:12.000 --> 00:21:16.119
<v Speaker 2>tournament last year, and that their big guy is probably

444
00:21:16.160 --> 00:21:18.240
<v Speaker 2>gonna make a lot of money playing like at Real

445
00:21:18.279 --> 00:21:22.119
<v Speaker 2>Madrid or something, but like, our guy is not giving

446
00:21:22.279 --> 00:21:25.240
<v Speaker 2>more than like fifty percent effort out there. Yeah, and

447
00:21:25.720 --> 00:21:28.160
<v Speaker 2>he was like that last year, and I feel like

448
00:21:28.200 --> 00:21:31.160
<v Speaker 2>they have worse players this year. But like they lost

449
00:21:31.160 --> 00:21:33.039
<v Speaker 2>to Utah, and you can correct me if I'm wrong,

450
00:21:33.640 --> 00:21:36.680
<v Speaker 2>but Utah is playing a style of basketball that's like

451
00:21:36.839 --> 00:21:39.440
<v Speaker 2>me and like church ball in like eighth grade, where

452
00:21:39.480 --> 00:21:41.880
<v Speaker 2>you just dribble it around and you know, lift up

453
00:21:41.920 --> 00:21:43.640
<v Speaker 2>your plant leg too soon and then look to throw

454
00:21:43.680 --> 00:21:45.839
<v Speaker 2>it to somebody. Because they were they were doing some

455
00:21:46.200 --> 00:21:48.559
<v Speaker 2>wild stuff and the fact that they got away with

456
00:21:48.599 --> 00:21:49.519
<v Speaker 2>the win good for them.

457
00:21:50.039 --> 00:21:53.599
<v Speaker 1>Your take on Kansas, I feel like is correct, okay,

458
00:21:53.759 --> 00:21:56.720
<v Speaker 1>because and I don't want to come across as if

459
00:21:56.759 --> 00:22:00.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm diminishing a really good win for Utah. Quad one

460
00:22:00.240 --> 00:22:03.880
<v Speaker 1>win and then BYU dog walked him. I mean, at

461
00:22:03.880 --> 00:22:05.880
<v Speaker 1>one point he was a thirty eight point game. It

462
00:22:06.000 --> 00:22:08.200
<v Speaker 1>is tied for the biggest defeat Bill self has ever

463
00:22:08.240 --> 00:22:14.279
<v Speaker 1>suffered to Kansas. But like the defense for Kansas in

464
00:22:14.319 --> 00:22:18.079
<v Speaker 1>both games, quite frankly against Utahn, BYU was atrocious. Now

465
00:22:18.160 --> 00:22:20.519
<v Speaker 1>to Bill Self's credit, he talked about it after the game.

466
00:22:21.079 --> 00:22:23.440
<v Speaker 1>But like Trevin Nell, who plays for Brigham.

467
00:22:23.160 --> 00:22:25.640
<v Speaker 2>Y guy, I know you have a bone to pick

468
00:22:25.680 --> 00:22:27.200
<v Speaker 2>with I don't have.

469
00:22:27.160 --> 00:22:29.000
<v Speaker 1>A bone to pick with him. Why would I have

470
00:22:29.039 --> 00:22:31.359
<v Speaker 1>a bone to pick with Trevinell? It's just Chris.

471
00:22:31.400 --> 00:22:34.279
<v Speaker 2>If I think he's a battleful guy, maybe I'm wrong.

472
00:22:34.480 --> 00:22:36.799
<v Speaker 1>No, I think he went to Woodscrosska thing. Look, he

473
00:22:36.839 --> 00:22:38.960
<v Speaker 1>can shoot the you know what out of the basketball.

474
00:22:39.000 --> 00:22:41.480
<v Speaker 1>He is an elite shooter. Yeah, but if he couldn't

475
00:22:41.480 --> 00:22:43.599
<v Speaker 1>shoot it, he'd be in his fourth year blogging about

476
00:22:43.599 --> 00:22:45.359
<v Speaker 1>BYU basketball for KASL.

477
00:22:45.039 --> 00:22:47.359
<v Speaker 2>Because as lots of people around here that do that exactly.

478
00:22:47.079 --> 00:22:49.319
<v Speaker 1>Because he's like twenty seven, but that's what he can do,

479
00:22:49.519 --> 00:22:52.160
<v Speaker 1>and they like ignored him Kansas.

480
00:22:52.359 --> 00:22:54.799
<v Speaker 2>There was no no closeouts.

481
00:22:54.440 --> 00:22:57.839
<v Speaker 1>Zero closeouts good good term, take away the airspace, get

482
00:22:57.880 --> 00:23:00.079
<v Speaker 1>up in him, make him uncomfortable on the scout. I

483
00:23:00.079 --> 00:23:02.920
<v Speaker 1>didn't report for Kansas. When it comes to number twenty

484
00:23:02.920 --> 00:23:05.960
<v Speaker 1>one on BYU, the one thing you can't let him

485
00:23:06.000 --> 00:23:07.759
<v Speaker 1>do is shoot it from the outside, and that's the

486
00:23:07.799 --> 00:23:08.960
<v Speaker 1>only thing they let him do.

487
00:23:09.079 --> 00:23:11.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it seems like they let everybody shoot from

488
00:23:11.200 --> 00:23:11.519
<v Speaker 2>the outset.

489
00:23:11.519 --> 00:23:13.119
<v Speaker 1>But that's the thing. Like, I don't know what the

490
00:23:13.160 --> 00:23:15.400
<v Speaker 1>game plan was, or if the players were just like

491
00:23:15.519 --> 00:23:17.759
<v Speaker 1>screw it and ignore the game plan like.

492
00:23:17.880 --> 00:23:20.200
<v Speaker 2>They were, Like we went to Kubby's last night. We

493
00:23:20.240 --> 00:23:25.240
<v Speaker 2>went too hard. We had a Sprinkle milkshake, feeling a

494
00:23:25.279 --> 00:23:27.119
<v Speaker 2>little bloated, don't know where I'm.

495
00:23:26.960 --> 00:23:29.759
<v Speaker 1>Going, little swig after party, and ultimately didn't have.

496
00:23:29.680 --> 00:23:31.519
<v Speaker 2>The energy like, Okay, here's one for you.

497
00:23:31.599 --> 00:23:34.160
<v Speaker 1>I was stunned at how poorly Kansas was defensively.

498
00:23:34.359 --> 00:23:36.319
<v Speaker 2>Richie Saunders really good future pro?

499
00:23:36.599 --> 00:23:40.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, probably Europe. Okay, but I think he's BYU's best player.

500
00:23:41.200 --> 00:23:42.599
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's their best pro.

501
00:23:42.599 --> 00:23:44.279
<v Speaker 2>Probst can he be Sam Merril?

502
00:23:45.240 --> 00:23:46.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he can shoot it like Sam can

503
00:23:46.759 --> 00:23:47.200
<v Speaker 1>shoot it.

504
00:23:47.160 --> 00:23:50.640
<v Speaker 2>Because nobody really saw Sam's my guy. Yeah, covered Sam

505
00:23:50.640 --> 00:23:54.039
<v Speaker 2>in high school. Boe Braves, Yep. A lot of people

506
00:23:54.079 --> 00:23:57.720
<v Speaker 2>were like Sam will make millions of dollars in Europe

507
00:23:58.119 --> 00:24:00.440
<v Speaker 2>and now he is a rotational player on the best

508
00:24:00.440 --> 00:24:01.000
<v Speaker 2>team in the league.

509
00:24:01.119 --> 00:24:04.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's so, it's a good it's a good COLMP

510
00:24:04.319 --> 00:24:06.359
<v Speaker 1>because the interesting thing is Richie is a better athlete

511
00:24:06.400 --> 00:24:09.559
<v Speaker 1>than Sam is, and Richie up until like last year,

512
00:24:09.759 --> 00:24:12.039
<v Speaker 1>was only like an energy guy that didn't shoot it

513
00:24:12.119 --> 00:24:14.359
<v Speaker 1>very well. So he's clearly put in the work because

514
00:24:14.359 --> 00:24:17.519
<v Speaker 1>he is a knockdown shooter. Maybe a fringe NBA guy,

515
00:24:17.519 --> 00:24:19.359
<v Speaker 1>but he is six or five and he is a

516
00:24:19.359 --> 00:24:21.319
<v Speaker 1>good athlete, but he doesn't shoot it the way Sam

517
00:24:21.319 --> 00:24:24.079
<v Speaker 1>shoots it. My old thing with Sam was like if

518
00:24:24.079 --> 00:24:25.799
<v Speaker 1>he can find a way to get a little stronger

519
00:24:26.440 --> 00:24:30.519
<v Speaker 1>and and and improve his release time, like you have

520
00:24:30.599 --> 00:24:33.680
<v Speaker 1>a co then he has a shot because he's knocked down.

521
00:24:33.720 --> 00:24:36.440
<v Speaker 1>My concern with him was what was going to happen

522
00:24:36.480 --> 00:24:38.880
<v Speaker 1>with Sam Merril is ultimately what happened with Jimmer Ferdad,

523
00:24:39.480 --> 00:24:43.920
<v Speaker 1>which is Jimmer three inches taller. But Jimmer is and

524
00:24:43.960 --> 00:24:46.160
<v Speaker 1>always has been a ball in hand, shoot it off

525
00:24:46.200 --> 00:24:48.000
<v Speaker 1>the dribble guy. He was never a great catch and

526
00:24:48.000 --> 00:24:50.519
<v Speaker 1>shoot guy. But when he played at By you Dave said,

527
00:24:50.640 --> 00:24:52.640
<v Speaker 1>you've got the ball, You've got the greenness of green lights,

528
00:24:52.640 --> 00:24:55.319
<v Speaker 1>so dear thing. So whenever Jimmer would go to the

529
00:24:55.359 --> 00:24:57.799
<v Speaker 1>G League and played against lesser players where he had

530
00:24:57.799 --> 00:24:59.759
<v Speaker 1>the ball in his hand, he was good. Then he

531
00:24:59.799 --> 00:25:02.440
<v Speaker 1>went to the pros, he could never get his shot off,

532
00:25:03.160 --> 00:25:06.160
<v Speaker 1>and so my concern with Sam was like, will he

533
00:25:06.240 --> 00:25:07.839
<v Speaker 1>be able to get that shot off? If he can,

534
00:25:07.920 --> 00:25:10.559
<v Speaker 1>he's got a shot and he deserves a lot of

535
00:25:10.599 --> 00:25:13.519
<v Speaker 1>credit because he's worked his tail off and instead of

536
00:25:13.559 --> 00:25:15.599
<v Speaker 1>just being a spot up shooter, you know, he can

537
00:25:15.640 --> 00:25:18.839
<v Speaker 1>shoot a little bit off the bounce. Richie might be

538
00:25:19.000 --> 00:25:20.359
<v Speaker 1>what he's best player right now though?

539
00:25:20.400 --> 00:25:23.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was a good Richie Saunders tangent, and we

540
00:25:23.200 --> 00:25:23.640
<v Speaker 2>just went on.

541
00:25:23.759 --> 00:25:25.079
<v Speaker 1>I like Richie, he's a good player.

542
00:25:25.160 --> 00:25:25.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, local kid.

543
00:25:26.240 --> 00:25:27.480
<v Speaker 1>Where where do you go to high school?

544
00:25:27.880 --> 00:25:30.759
<v Speaker 2>Shoot? I want to say PG somewhere in there. It

545
00:25:30.759 --> 00:25:33.279
<v Speaker 2>feels like somewhere American Fork. Maybe it feels like somewhere

546
00:25:33.279 --> 00:25:35.759
<v Speaker 2>down there. Well, Mark wanted him to go to Kentucky.

547
00:25:35.920 --> 00:25:37.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh really yeah, and Richie decided to stay here. Did

548
00:25:38.000 --> 00:25:43.960
<v Speaker 2>anybody follow Mark to Kentucky? Oh? Yes, number two Jackson Robins.

549
00:25:43.720 --> 00:25:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Jackson Robinson, look at you, good pull. But now the

550
00:25:47.000 --> 00:25:50.799
<v Speaker 1>reports were that Mark wanted Dallen Hall and Richie Saunders

551
00:25:50.839 --> 00:25:52.799
<v Speaker 1>to follow him to Kentucky and they both decided to

552
00:25:52.799 --> 00:25:55.279
<v Speaker 1>stay down at BYU. And I do not have a

553
00:25:55.279 --> 00:25:57.519
<v Speaker 1>bone to pick with Trevinell. I'm just saying it's amazing

554
00:25:57.640 --> 00:25:59.640
<v Speaker 1>to watch a player who only does one thing be

555
00:25:59.680 --> 00:26:00.680
<v Speaker 1>allowed to do that thing.

556
00:26:00.759 --> 00:26:01.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, makes sense.

557
00:26:01.960 --> 00:26:04.079
<v Speaker 1>It's like just leave shack open at the rim. Yeah,

558
00:26:04.279 --> 00:26:04.839
<v Speaker 1>get a dunkit.

559
00:26:04.960 --> 00:26:06.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

560
00:26:06.440 --> 00:26:07.640
<v Speaker 1>College football, you ready for it?

561
00:26:07.680 --> 00:26:09.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm ready. What are we mad about?

562
00:26:10.000 --> 00:26:13.319
<v Speaker 1>Well, we're not mad about anything. But for the second

563
00:26:13.319 --> 00:26:16.359
<v Speaker 1>time in just a few months, the SEC and the

564
00:26:16.359 --> 00:26:19.119
<v Speaker 1>Big ten are having meetings this week in New Orleans

565
00:26:19.160 --> 00:26:23.839
<v Speaker 1>about the proposed changes they want to scheduling partnerships the

566
00:26:23.880 --> 00:26:27.759
<v Speaker 1>CFP format. According to your guys Stuart Mendel, I love

567
00:26:27.759 --> 00:26:30.519
<v Speaker 1>it when Stewart is grumpy because he'll he'll just come

568
00:26:30.640 --> 00:26:31.440
<v Speaker 1>off on people.

569
00:26:31.599 --> 00:26:32.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

570
00:26:32.440 --> 00:26:35.720
<v Speaker 1>So what he wrote is the expectation is that these

571
00:26:35.759 --> 00:26:39.559
<v Speaker 1>two conferences want the CFP to expand a sixty to

572
00:26:39.599 --> 00:26:43.640
<v Speaker 1>fourteen or sixteen, and then they get four auto bids each,

573
00:26:44.200 --> 00:26:47.359
<v Speaker 1>Big twelve acc get two each, and I think that

574
00:26:47.440 --> 00:26:49.839
<v Speaker 1>leaves one for the G five schools and maybe three

575
00:26:49.880 --> 00:26:51.519
<v Speaker 1>at large bids something like that.

576
00:26:51.440 --> 00:26:53.920
<v Speaker 2>Either one or three, depending on if it's fourteen or sixteen.

577
00:26:53.960 --> 00:26:56.680
<v Speaker 1>There it is. So what do you make of this?

578
00:26:56.759 --> 00:26:58.880
<v Speaker 1>Do you think this is something that's going to come

579
00:26:58.920 --> 00:27:01.559
<v Speaker 1>to Fruich and potentially in twenty twenty six.

580
00:27:01.640 --> 00:27:04.519
<v Speaker 2>What's what's the golden rule, Spence? I know with the

581
00:27:04.559 --> 00:27:08.559
<v Speaker 2>gold Yeah, it's this is always going to be an

582
00:27:08.559 --> 00:27:12.319
<v Speaker 2>evolving reality. They're never going to settle on anything because

583
00:27:12.319 --> 00:27:14.920
<v Speaker 2>nobody's ever going to be happy. And the more games

584
00:27:14.960 --> 00:27:17.640
<v Speaker 2>they play, the more money they make. It is as

585
00:27:17.640 --> 00:27:20.079
<v Speaker 2>simple as that. You don't need to go on Reddit

586
00:27:20.480 --> 00:27:23.759
<v Speaker 2>and look for any sort of conspiracy theory or mystery

587
00:27:23.799 --> 00:27:26.720
<v Speaker 2>box to open. It's not that the Big ten and

588
00:27:26.759 --> 00:27:30.279
<v Speaker 2>the SEC can throw their weight around because they make

589
00:27:30.319 --> 00:27:32.640
<v Speaker 2>the most money and they have the strongest, you know,

590
00:27:32.920 --> 00:27:36.960
<v Speaker 2>media partnership deals with these huge conglomerates, and more games

591
00:27:37.039 --> 00:27:40.160
<v Speaker 2>means more money. That's it, bottom line, That's all it is. Yeah,

592
00:27:40.720 --> 00:27:41.559
<v Speaker 2>I mean, are they wrong?

593
00:27:43.119 --> 00:27:45.440
<v Speaker 1>Are they wrong that more games may mean more money?

594
00:27:45.519 --> 00:27:51.599
<v Speaker 2>Are they wrong in basically hijacking this next iteration and

595
00:27:51.640 --> 00:27:55.359
<v Speaker 2>what it could look like because if we're if we're

596
00:27:55.400 --> 00:28:01.359
<v Speaker 2>going beyond, I mean, if if the Big ten had

597
00:28:01.519 --> 00:28:03.960
<v Speaker 2>top four team last year, like you're talking about, like

598
00:28:04.039 --> 00:28:07.319
<v Speaker 2>Iowa in the playoff, nobody wanted to watch Iowa play.

599
00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:09.599
<v Speaker 2>I think top four would have been like a in

600
00:28:09.640 --> 00:28:14.200
<v Speaker 2>the SEC, it was like a four way tie between

601
00:28:14.240 --> 00:28:17.200
<v Speaker 2>like Mississippi and Arkansas and you know, all these teams,

602
00:28:17.279 --> 00:28:19.279
<v Speaker 2>So there's always going to be somebody that's mad. But

603
00:28:20.599 --> 00:28:25.359
<v Speaker 2>we are a country of addicts. We are obsessed with

604
00:28:25.519 --> 00:28:28.640
<v Speaker 2>our entertainment, and we will be mad about it, and

605
00:28:28.680 --> 00:28:30.559
<v Speaker 2>we will watch it and then we will complain about

606
00:28:30.559 --> 00:28:32.400
<v Speaker 2>it because that's what we do. And it's never been

607
00:28:32.440 --> 00:28:35.480
<v Speaker 2>easier to watch things and complain about things.

608
00:28:35.960 --> 00:28:38.319
<v Speaker 1>How much time you spent on Reddit, I don't spend.

609
00:28:39.559 --> 00:28:41.880
<v Speaker 2>I never got into it, and my buddies were really

610
00:28:41.920 --> 00:28:44.960
<v Speaker 2>big into it, and I was always kind of skeptical

611
00:28:45.279 --> 00:28:48.039
<v Speaker 2>and I don't really understand the format all that well,

612
00:28:48.039 --> 00:28:50.440
<v Speaker 2>Like you have to click the minus and the plus,

613
00:28:50.480 --> 00:28:53.440
<v Speaker 2>and I don't know, I'm not very smart when it

614
00:28:53.480 --> 00:28:55.599
<v Speaker 2>comes to it's got to be pretty streamlined for me.

615
00:28:55.799 --> 00:28:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you strike me as a Reddit guy. I'm not

616
00:28:57.440 --> 00:28:57.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna lie.

617
00:28:57.960 --> 00:28:59.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I'm full of surprises.

618
00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:02.799
<v Speaker 1>I mean I'm not. That's not like a compliment or

619
00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:04.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm not knocking on you just strike me as somebody

620
00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:07.480
<v Speaker 1>And like, I don't use it much. The only time

621
00:29:07.480 --> 00:29:09.400
<v Speaker 1>I use it is if I'm doing a Google search

622
00:29:09.680 --> 00:29:11.279
<v Speaker 1>and a Reddit threat is like, oh that looks kind

623
00:29:11.319 --> 00:29:11.839
<v Speaker 1>of interesting.

624
00:29:12.160 --> 00:29:13.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm the same way I don't.

625
00:29:13.720 --> 00:29:17.680
<v Speaker 1>Like following any wormholes. I don't like going down any wormholes.

626
00:29:17.720 --> 00:29:21.480
<v Speaker 1>I feel like that's a dangerous, a dangerous path to follow.

627
00:29:21.519 --> 00:29:23.119
<v Speaker 1>Then the next thing, you know, I'm going to be

628
00:29:23.160 --> 00:29:26.400
<v Speaker 1>talking about vaccines and transgender athletes on air. I don't

629
00:29:26.440 --> 00:29:28.480
<v Speaker 1>want to go down any of those rabbit holes. That's

630
00:29:28.519 --> 00:29:28.759
<v Speaker 1>just me.

631
00:29:29.519 --> 00:29:31.240
<v Speaker 2>I don't want you to go down those rabbit holes either.

632
00:29:31.720 --> 00:29:34.200
<v Speaker 1>Have you ever followed a rabbit hole to the place

633
00:29:34.240 --> 00:29:36.200
<v Speaker 1>where you don't feel like you're in a anymore? No,

634
00:29:36.440 --> 00:29:38.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm not What about the dark web? To spend time

635
00:29:38.680 --> 00:29:39.200
<v Speaker 1>in the dark.

636
00:29:39.039 --> 00:29:40.799
<v Speaker 2>Web ever, not for one second.

637
00:29:40.799 --> 00:29:42.079
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know how to access it.

638
00:29:42.119 --> 00:29:44.319
<v Speaker 2>I don't either. I'm more about like watching can't hardly

639
00:29:44.359 --> 00:29:45.880
<v Speaker 2>wait for the for the million at the time.

640
00:29:45.960 --> 00:29:49.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, or a college football expanded CFP where it's diluted

641
00:29:49.839 --> 00:29:50.599
<v Speaker 1>the regular season.

642
00:29:50.720 --> 00:29:54.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, put on Paul finebombs. See what he's saying.

643
00:29:54.480 --> 00:29:56.799
<v Speaker 2>You know that those are my people and that's my

644
00:29:57.000 --> 00:29:57.519
<v Speaker 2>that's my gig.

645
00:29:57.559 --> 00:29:59.400
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, what I do I mean, if I could

646
00:29:59.559 --> 00:30:01.759
<v Speaker 1>stretch little bit, Yeah, you can stretch. From a sports

647
00:30:01.759 --> 00:30:05.319
<v Speaker 1>socc radio standpoint, I do feel like four auto bids

648
00:30:05.319 --> 00:30:07.720
<v Speaker 1>for each of these leagues does dilude the regular season,

649
00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:10.079
<v Speaker 1>which to me is what makes college football specially correct.

650
00:30:10.359 --> 00:30:13.839
<v Speaker 2>The regular season will not mean anything. Conference championship weekend

651
00:30:13.839 --> 00:30:16.920
<v Speaker 2>will be gone, and frankly, I don't think that matters

652
00:30:16.960 --> 00:30:21.480
<v Speaker 2>all that much, like it was already on its last legs. Anyways,

653
00:30:21.960 --> 00:30:25.480
<v Speaker 2>do get rid of it. In this iteration, you'll prioritize

654
00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:32.720
<v Speaker 2>the conference records and that's it. The Wetzel Forty Doallinger

655
00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:35.119
<v Speaker 2>podcast did a really good job this week diving into it,

656
00:30:35.160 --> 00:30:38.559
<v Speaker 2>and Forty had an epic rant. I recommend people who

657
00:30:38.880 --> 00:30:40.799
<v Speaker 2>know Pat Forty, who is you know, one of the

658
00:30:41.359 --> 00:30:44.440
<v Speaker 2>luminaries in our business right of the show. Yeah, he

659
00:30:44.519 --> 00:30:47.519
<v Speaker 2>did not mince words when talking about this potential iteration

660
00:30:47.640 --> 00:30:53.079
<v Speaker 2>coming to fruition. They'll have to rethink things. The regular

661
00:30:53.079 --> 00:30:57.000
<v Speaker 2>season will I don't think it'll mean like non conference

662
00:30:57.039 --> 00:30:59.920
<v Speaker 2>games will not mean a thing like other than bragging rights,

663
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:05.400
<v Speaker 2>because in this format you will primarily go on the

664
00:31:05.839 --> 00:31:12.119
<v Speaker 2>basis of conference records and listen, man, Would people tune

665
00:31:12.160 --> 00:31:16.039
<v Speaker 2>in to watch Utah play Ole Miss in a first

666
00:31:16.119 --> 00:31:20.839
<v Speaker 2>round game in a theoretical playoff, Yes they were, Yeah.

667
00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:24.200
<v Speaker 2>Would people tune in to watch Iowa play Miami? Yeah,

668
00:31:25.240 --> 00:31:29.599
<v Speaker 2>we're talking about We're talking about schools that have significant

669
00:31:29.599 --> 00:31:32.240
<v Speaker 2>followings that are going to be involved more. And that's

670
00:31:32.599 --> 00:31:35.519
<v Speaker 2>that's just the bottom line. Like we're talking about fan

671
00:31:35.559 --> 00:31:39.319
<v Speaker 2>bases that are part of cultures that are ingratiated in

672
00:31:39.359 --> 00:31:42.440
<v Speaker 2>the sport at a level that you know, some other

673
00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:44.799
<v Speaker 2>programs in other parts of the country frankly aren't. And

674
00:31:44.920 --> 00:31:48.200
<v Speaker 2>I say that being a West Coast kid, being having

675
00:31:48.759 --> 00:31:53.039
<v Speaker 2>a a understanding of what the West Coast bias is

676
00:31:53.119 --> 00:31:56.759
<v Speaker 2>against us, but can't complain.

677
00:31:57.200 --> 00:31:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Well, you can't deal with you can't.

678
00:31:59.000 --> 00:32:02.160
<v Speaker 2>Okay, you can come, but at the end of the day,

679
00:32:02.200 --> 00:32:04.319
<v Speaker 2>you're still going to watch it, So get off your

680
00:32:04.359 --> 00:32:04.880
<v Speaker 2>high horse.

681
00:32:05.720 --> 00:32:08.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's just you know, I try, I guess in

682
00:32:08.400 --> 00:32:10.359
<v Speaker 1>a way trying to hold on to what makes college

683
00:32:10.359 --> 00:32:13.039
<v Speaker 1>football or college football is. And maybe I need to

684
00:32:13.079 --> 00:32:14.880
<v Speaker 1>go the way of my All Star take where it's

685
00:32:14.920 --> 00:32:18.000
<v Speaker 1>like Alan Iverson is not walking through that door to

686
00:32:18.039 --> 00:32:19.880
<v Speaker 1>try to hang thirty on you in the fourth quarter.

687
00:32:20.720 --> 00:32:22.960
<v Speaker 1>Instead you get to see Donovan Mitchell not care about

688
00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:25.279
<v Speaker 1>being you know where he is. Even though I think

689
00:32:25.319 --> 00:32:28.079
<v Speaker 1>being named an NBA All Star should mean something. I

690
00:32:28.119 --> 00:32:30.000
<v Speaker 1>think that's something you should wear with pride and show

691
00:32:30.039 --> 00:32:31.160
<v Speaker 1>up and do your job and do it to the

692
00:32:31.200 --> 00:32:35.480
<v Speaker 1>best of your abilities. But if we're I guess where

693
00:32:35.480 --> 00:32:38.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm at with it is if we're simply moving, step

694
00:32:38.880 --> 00:32:42.039
<v Speaker 1>by step, slowly towards this eventuality that we all believe

695
00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:45.559
<v Speaker 1>we're moving towards. Rip the band aid man, like, let's

696
00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:47.839
<v Speaker 1>just get on with it. I agree, But what do

697
00:32:47.880 --> 00:32:48.640
<v Speaker 1>you think stopping it?

698
00:32:51.559 --> 00:32:55.440
<v Speaker 2>My guess is the ability to milk as much money

699
00:32:56.279 --> 00:33:01.079
<v Speaker 2>along the way. Things don't happen, you know, massive change

700
00:33:01.119 --> 00:33:04.559
<v Speaker 2>doesn't happen overnight. Like remember the BCS and how people

701
00:33:04.599 --> 00:33:07.160
<v Speaker 2>were so pissed off about it. Never in a million

702
00:33:07.240 --> 00:33:09.160
<v Speaker 2>years did we think back then we were going to

703
00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:11.720
<v Speaker 2>see a four team playoff. Then we got it, and

704
00:33:11.759 --> 00:33:14.039
<v Speaker 2>then never in a million years did we think, oh,

705
00:33:14.200 --> 00:33:15.920
<v Speaker 2>some other teams might have a chance to play for

706
00:33:16.119 --> 00:33:19.160
<v Speaker 2>national championship. We finally got it. This is just the

707
00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:21.079
<v Speaker 2>can is just going to be kicked down the road,

708
00:33:21.720 --> 00:33:23.839
<v Speaker 2>and you know, the powers that be are going to

709
00:33:23.839 --> 00:33:27.079
<v Speaker 2>make more money and eventually, to your point, we'll get

710
00:33:27.160 --> 00:33:32.559
<v Speaker 2>to this you know, proposed super conference whatever we're going

711
00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:34.880
<v Speaker 2>to call it, and we're going to watch it and

712
00:33:34.920 --> 00:33:36.599
<v Speaker 2>people will be left out and they will be sad.

713
00:33:36.599 --> 00:33:41.839
<v Speaker 2>And the people that are in will say nin or niner?

714
00:33:43.960 --> 00:33:46.759
<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, well you're Look, I know you're not wrong.

715
00:33:47.480 --> 00:33:49.400
<v Speaker 1>I understand, and I'm a grown up.

716
00:33:49.799 --> 00:33:52.599
<v Speaker 2>Am I acting too much of like a fatalist like you.

717
00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:56.119
<v Speaker 1>Like, you're not wrong, But it's kind of like doing

718
00:33:56.119 --> 00:33:58.920
<v Speaker 1>this job every day. I can't crack the mic and

719
00:33:58.960 --> 00:34:02.119
<v Speaker 1>be like, hey, guys, get over it. Jazz are rebuilding,

720
00:34:02.279 --> 00:34:04.400
<v Speaker 1>so just go over And I'm like, go home. If

721
00:34:04.440 --> 00:34:05.359
<v Speaker 1>I could, I would.

722
00:34:05.440 --> 00:34:06.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that would be cool.

723
00:34:06.440 --> 00:34:08.519
<v Speaker 1>But you've got to dig into this in a way

724
00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:11.440
<v Speaker 1>that isn't as reductive as you just made it, even

725
00:34:11.480 --> 00:34:14.400
<v Speaker 1>though you're not wrong. So here, let me stretch. Okay,

726
00:34:14.480 --> 00:34:17.079
<v Speaker 1>let me try this. We're in about the softmore, we're

727
00:34:17.119 --> 00:34:20.440
<v Speaker 1>in the Big twelve footprint. If you're not in the

728
00:34:20.480 --> 00:34:23.440
<v Speaker 1>SEC in the Big ten, do you have reason to

729
00:34:23.480 --> 00:34:25.599
<v Speaker 1>be concerned? Even if you're a program like the university

730
00:34:25.800 --> 00:34:26.159
<v Speaker 1>for sure.

731
00:34:26.559 --> 00:34:30.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you don't have any power to wield in this scenario,

732
00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:36.119
<v Speaker 2>and the two conferences that wield all the power are

733
00:34:36.159 --> 00:34:39.960
<v Speaker 2>throwing their weight around. I don't. I mean, maybe there

734
00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:44.840
<v Speaker 2>will be an explosion of talent in the Big twelve,

735
00:34:44.880 --> 00:34:48.159
<v Speaker 2>and maybe Dion's buffs will start ten to zero, and

736
00:34:48.239 --> 00:34:51.159
<v Speaker 2>maybe Utah will write the ship and BYU Devin Dampier,

737
00:34:51.480 --> 00:34:55.079
<v Speaker 2>Devin Dampier and Jake Retslov will be a Heisman Trophy candidate,

738
00:34:55.159 --> 00:34:58.480
<v Speaker 2>and Iowa State will pick up where they left off,

739
00:34:58.519 --> 00:35:02.039
<v Speaker 2>and so on and so forth. I don't you have

740
00:35:02.119 --> 00:35:04.639
<v Speaker 2>to they have to show it to the country first,

741
00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:08.760
<v Speaker 2>otherwise they're they just don't have the clout built in

742
00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:12.639
<v Speaker 2>that these other teams and other conferences do fair or not. Yeah, like.

743
00:35:14.239 --> 00:35:14.280
<v Speaker 1>It.

744
00:35:14.719 --> 00:35:20.440
<v Speaker 2>I understand that nobody wants to watch, you know, Minnesota

745
00:35:20.880 --> 00:35:23.360
<v Speaker 2>have a great year and then get into the playoff

746
00:35:23.599 --> 00:35:26.280
<v Speaker 2>out here at least, and maybe some people do. But

747
00:35:26.480 --> 00:35:29.119
<v Speaker 2>the reality is they're part of the They're part They're

748
00:35:29.159 --> 00:35:30.960
<v Speaker 2>part of the club, and a lot of people aren't.

749
00:35:31.400 --> 00:35:34.119
<v Speaker 1>Do you think that the sport is in trouble at all?

750
00:35:34.239 --> 00:35:37.440
<v Speaker 1>In any way? She don't know, because at some point,

751
00:35:37.800 --> 00:35:40.760
<v Speaker 1>whether it's the NBA and the apathy or college football

752
00:35:40.760 --> 00:35:45.079
<v Speaker 1>and the disorganization, the only thing that will affect change

753
00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:47.519
<v Speaker 1>if you're not in the room is enough people not

754
00:35:47.639 --> 00:35:49.000
<v Speaker 1>tuning in to affect their bottom line.

755
00:35:49.079 --> 00:35:52.880
<v Speaker 2>College football, to me is the most like international club soccer. Though,

756
00:35:53.320 --> 00:35:56.159
<v Speaker 2>like you're talking about where people grew up, where they

757
00:35:56.199 --> 00:36:00.519
<v Speaker 2>went to school, they are you are celeb rating a

758
00:36:00.639 --> 00:36:04.000
<v Speaker 2>sport that is always going to be in lockstep with

759
00:36:04.719 --> 00:36:08.719
<v Speaker 2>your perceived best years of your life, and that carves

760
00:36:08.719 --> 00:36:11.039
<v Speaker 2>out a special place in the hearts of fans, and

761
00:36:12.239 --> 00:36:17.039
<v Speaker 2>I just don't really see that evaporating. It is funny though,

762
00:36:17.119 --> 00:36:19.760
<v Speaker 2>Like as we've talked about in the past, like when

763
00:36:19.800 --> 00:36:23.719
<v Speaker 2>that proposed super conference over in Europe was put on

764
00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:26.960
<v Speaker 2>the table and basically everybody, all the fans of the

765
00:36:27.000 --> 00:36:29.599
<v Speaker 2>teams that would have been included, were like, this is bs.

766
00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:32.480
<v Speaker 2>We're going to storm the field and like say like,

767
00:36:32.880 --> 00:36:35.320
<v Speaker 2>we won't let you play games because this is unfair

768
00:36:35.360 --> 00:36:37.920
<v Speaker 2>to the little to the little guys here in this country.

769
00:36:37.960 --> 00:36:41.199
<v Speaker 2>We're just like, eh see you, good luck. We are

770
00:36:41.280 --> 00:36:45.519
<v Speaker 2>a we are a have and have not country when

771
00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:48.880
<v Speaker 2>it comes to a lot of things, but in sports especially.

772
00:36:48.519 --> 00:36:53.039
<v Speaker 1>You know what, and if I'm leaning into some altruistic approach,

773
00:36:53.079 --> 00:36:56.480
<v Speaker 1>I apologize. One of the reasons I've always wanted to.

774
00:36:57.079 --> 00:36:59.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, I played sports as long as I could,

775
00:36:59.840 --> 00:37:02.239
<v Speaker 1>and then in my career I've done a bunch of

776
00:37:02.280 --> 00:37:04.840
<v Speaker 1>different things all around sports and entertainment. Before I got

777
00:37:04.880 --> 00:37:06.719
<v Speaker 1>into radio, I worked for the Olympics, I was with

778
00:37:06.760 --> 00:37:08.519
<v Speaker 1>Disney's wide world of sports for a little bit, then

779
00:37:08.559 --> 00:37:11.239
<v Speaker 1>got into radio. And one of the reasons you know,

780
00:37:11.280 --> 00:37:14.480
<v Speaker 1>I've always wanted to stay around it is it seemed

781
00:37:14.519 --> 00:37:18.480
<v Speaker 1>to be one of the portions of our ecosystem in

782
00:37:18.480 --> 00:37:22.239
<v Speaker 1>this country. It isn't simply just run like a Fortune

783
00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:23.199
<v Speaker 1>five hundred company.

784
00:37:23.320 --> 00:37:25.519
<v Speaker 2>It was, yeah, it was. It was a safe space.

785
00:37:25.599 --> 00:37:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Well, and look, I grew up with VC guys. These

786
00:37:27.440 --> 00:37:29.679
<v Speaker 1>guys are sharks, okay, and I never had any interest

787
00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:33.039
<v Speaker 1>to me, what does VC mean thenure capitalists? These guys

788
00:37:33.079 --> 00:37:35.559
<v Speaker 1>are sharks, man, and I never had any interest of

789
00:37:35.880 --> 00:37:39.360
<v Speaker 1>hopping on the train to go to Grand Central at

790
00:37:39.400 --> 00:37:41.760
<v Speaker 1>six thirty am, to work on Wall Street for fourteen

791
00:37:41.800 --> 00:37:44.039
<v Speaker 1>hours a day until you got yours and then telling

792
00:37:44.039 --> 00:37:46.960
<v Speaker 1>everybody to go bleep themselves at the age of thirty

793
00:37:46.960 --> 00:37:49.239
<v Speaker 1>five because you bought an island. Maybe I should have

794
00:37:49.440 --> 00:37:50.239
<v Speaker 1>questioned my life.

795
00:37:50.159 --> 00:37:51.760
<v Speaker 2>Choice two do that for us?

796
00:37:51.800 --> 00:37:54.800
<v Speaker 1>Probably? Well for me, man, Like I'm turning forty seven next,

797
00:37:54.880 --> 00:37:56.679
<v Speaker 1>yek bro, So like this is the deal.

798
00:37:56.760 --> 00:38:00.440
<v Speaker 2>I turned thirty nine this year, so you're still so yeah,

799
00:38:00.639 --> 00:38:01.440
<v Speaker 2>I have so much.

800
00:38:02.519 --> 00:38:05.360
<v Speaker 1>You know what, It's not too late for you, okay,

801
00:38:05.400 --> 00:38:07.360
<v Speaker 1>if you want to be a VC bro, We're gonna

802
00:38:07.559 --> 00:38:10.159
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have to cut the hair, You're gonna have

803
00:38:10.159 --> 00:38:13.480
<v Speaker 1>to wear like a suit. I'm telling you, I saw

804
00:38:13.800 --> 00:38:17.679
<v Speaker 1>my high school friends grind for like a decade, to

805
00:38:17.719 --> 00:38:19.920
<v Speaker 1>the point where I'd go visit them in Midtown. Like

806
00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:22.760
<v Speaker 1>four of them, yes, like four of them shacked up

807
00:38:22.760 --> 00:38:24.800
<v Speaker 1>in this little apartment. You know, they all essentially have

808
00:38:24.800 --> 00:38:27.719
<v Speaker 1>a closet of sleep in. But these are like Yale MBA's,

809
00:38:27.719 --> 00:38:30.480
<v Speaker 1>these are Harvard And there's like Ivy League Brooks brother

810
00:38:30.599 --> 00:38:34.000
<v Speaker 1>wearing me if I chose an alternate reality way back

811
00:38:34.039 --> 00:38:36.440
<v Speaker 1>in the day before I chose fun over that sure,

812
00:38:36.840 --> 00:38:38.599
<v Speaker 1>And they all kind of said the same thing. We

813
00:38:38.639 --> 00:38:39.880
<v Speaker 1>just know we have to do this for like eight

814
00:38:39.880 --> 00:38:42.440
<v Speaker 1>to ten years and then we're good, right, And so

815
00:38:42.719 --> 00:38:46.119
<v Speaker 1>I understand, and I'm a grown up about front facing

816
00:38:46.199 --> 00:38:50.920
<v Speaker 1>revenue generating businesses. But like if sports has now only

817
00:38:51.039 --> 00:38:54.440
<v Speaker 1>leaned into capitalism because Adam Silver runs the NBA like

818
00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:56.599
<v Speaker 1>a fortune five hundred company the way that David Stern

819
00:38:56.639 --> 00:38:59.599
<v Speaker 1>didn't necessarily and David knew was a business, but he

820
00:38:59.679 --> 00:39:02.639
<v Speaker 1>cared about fan relations and the product and the consumer

821
00:39:02.719 --> 00:39:05.079
<v Speaker 1>and the way the sport was covered. And there is

822
00:39:05.119 --> 00:39:09.400
<v Speaker 1>this feel around pro basketball though they're simply, as Jason

823
00:39:09.519 --> 00:39:12.559
<v Speaker 1>Kidds sat out loud two years ago, millionaires cheering for

824
00:39:12.599 --> 00:39:14.400
<v Speaker 1>each other and they don't give a rip out of

825
00:39:14.400 --> 00:39:14.960
<v Speaker 1>anything else.

826
00:39:16.079 --> 00:39:19.599
<v Speaker 2>Well, you can see where they're coming from if you

827
00:39:19.599 --> 00:39:24.039
<v Speaker 2>look at the current landscape of even professional sporting events.

828
00:39:24.199 --> 00:39:27.679
<v Speaker 2>Why is it now more than ever that companies have

829
00:39:27.800 --> 00:39:33.280
<v Speaker 2>a stranglehold on several one hundred, sometimes thousands of tickets

830
00:39:33.320 --> 00:39:36.920
<v Speaker 2>at these things where it's like, hey, we have this suite, well,

831
00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:38.880
<v Speaker 2>we have this suite, we have that sue because they

832
00:39:38.920 --> 00:39:41.079
<v Speaker 2>have money. They have money to throw around, Whereas like,

833
00:39:41.119 --> 00:39:43.679
<v Speaker 2>if you go to a jazz game, there are going

834
00:39:43.719 --> 00:39:47.079
<v Speaker 2>to be people in the upper deck who love the jazz,

835
00:39:47.119 --> 00:39:49.719
<v Speaker 2>have probably cheered for the jazz their whole life. And

836
00:39:50.840 --> 00:39:53.159
<v Speaker 2>is it are they ever going to be presented with

837
00:39:53.199 --> 00:39:56.199
<v Speaker 2>an opportunity to sit in a catered suite with R

838
00:39:56.239 --> 00:40:02.679
<v Speaker 2>and R barbecue or Cubbies or Cafe Rio or whatever,

839
00:40:02.760 --> 00:40:06.039
<v Speaker 2>cup pop Like No, man, Like, we we are trending

840
00:40:06.039 --> 00:40:10.239
<v Speaker 2>that direction because now more than ever, a lot of

841
00:40:10.440 --> 00:40:12.519
<v Speaker 2>rich companies have a lot of money to throw around,

842
00:40:12.599 --> 00:40:15.920
<v Speaker 2>and they're going to probably write it off as oh,

843
00:40:16.000 --> 00:40:18.760
<v Speaker 2>this is a business expense. We'll we'll take some people there,

844
00:40:18.800 --> 00:40:21.320
<v Speaker 2>and we'll have our suite, and we'll have our multiple suites,

845
00:40:21.320 --> 00:40:22.880
<v Speaker 2>and then we'll have our floor seats and so on

846
00:40:22.920 --> 00:40:25.440
<v Speaker 2>and so forth. Like next time you go to a

847
00:40:25.519 --> 00:40:27.679
<v Speaker 2>jazz game, like look who's Look who's down there? And

848
00:40:27.840 --> 00:40:31.320
<v Speaker 2>who's down there? Like the last fifteen years, viven't people

849
00:40:33.400 --> 00:40:35.719
<v Speaker 2>qual tricks people obviously now with Ryan Smith owning the

850
00:40:35.800 --> 00:40:38.400
<v Speaker 2>jazz like, it's it is not hard to see where

851
00:40:38.400 --> 00:40:42.119
<v Speaker 2>this thing is going, and it is. I don't know,

852
00:40:42.519 --> 00:40:44.239
<v Speaker 2>maybe back I mean you used to go to jazz

853
00:40:44.280 --> 00:40:45.800
<v Speaker 2>games back in the day. Maybe they once again.

854
00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:47.000
<v Speaker 1>I still go to jazz games.

855
00:40:47.039 --> 00:40:48.559
<v Speaker 2>I mean like, hey, he put you up to that.

856
00:40:49.920 --> 00:40:53.559
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying, like, does the doc exist in this

857
00:40:54.000 --> 00:40:55.599
<v Speaker 2>generation of jazz fandom.

858
00:40:56.039 --> 00:40:58.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. No, It's it's look, it's a

859
00:40:59.000 --> 00:41:03.280
<v Speaker 1>very depressing yet fair point trucks and Tesla's a lot

860
00:41:03.360 --> 00:41:06.760
<v Speaker 1>of bedazzled jeans and spraight straight brim hats with dudes.

861
00:41:06.800 --> 00:41:10.320
<v Speaker 1>It probably should leave the straight brim'. Is there anything

862
00:41:10.320 --> 00:41:12.039
<v Speaker 1>more awkward than seeing like a dude in his mid

863
00:41:12.079 --> 00:41:15.559
<v Speaker 1>fifties that is clearly holding on with steroids and fake

864
00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:18.199
<v Speaker 1>tanning and bedazzle jeans and really tight shirts and a

865
00:41:18.199 --> 00:41:19.719
<v Speaker 1>straight build baseball hat.

866
00:41:19.719 --> 00:41:21.280
<v Speaker 2>It's like, it's like, dude, why do you want to

867
00:41:21.280 --> 00:41:21.760
<v Speaker 2>look like me?

868
00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:22.960
<v Speaker 1>It's really awkward.

869
00:41:23.039 --> 00:41:24.280
<v Speaker 2>It's like I don't need a spray tan, but you

870
00:41:24.280 --> 00:41:25.840
<v Speaker 2>don't need to look like me. Just look like yourself.

871
00:41:25.880 --> 00:41:31.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah it's a bad look, but it's look, man, I

872
00:41:31.159 --> 00:41:34.000
<v Speaker 1>can't cover it like this. I just I can't do

873
00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:37.280
<v Speaker 1>the thing where even though there's part of me that

874
00:41:37.400 --> 00:41:40.320
<v Speaker 1>understands your point and believes that you're telling the truth,

875
00:41:41.440 --> 00:41:44.519
<v Speaker 1>this is supposed to be the toy isle of life,

876
00:41:44.639 --> 00:41:47.679
<v Speaker 1>and I can't just crack a microphone every day and say, hey, guys,

877
00:41:47.800 --> 00:41:50.840
<v Speaker 1>just so you know, the ownership groups of the team

878
00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:52.920
<v Speaker 1>that you love care about one thing, and that's creating

879
00:41:53.000 --> 00:41:56.920
<v Speaker 1>shareholder value for their investors. Okay, good night, talk to

880
00:41:56.920 --> 00:41:57.280
<v Speaker 1>you tomorrow.

881
00:41:57.360 --> 00:42:01.320
<v Speaker 2>Like it can't be a we talk about all your

882
00:42:01.400 --> 00:42:05.000
<v Speaker 2>last week, Spence. We did, We covered, we covered Isaiah.

883
00:42:05.320 --> 00:42:10.199
<v Speaker 2>Maybe next week we can talk about Kyle Philipowski.

884
00:42:10.119 --> 00:42:11.199
<v Speaker 1>Flip as we call.

885
00:42:11.360 --> 00:42:11.679
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

886
00:42:13.159 --> 00:42:16.199
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So if you're a if you're a Jazz fan

887
00:42:16.280 --> 00:42:18.480
<v Speaker 1>right now, if you're a football fan right now, and

888
00:42:18.519 --> 00:42:22.199
<v Speaker 1>you're tuned into the program, okay, and you have suddenly become.

889
00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:24.800
<v Speaker 2>Like this mfort again acutely.

890
00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:29.320
<v Speaker 1>Aware that it doesn't matter how much you love this team,

891
00:42:29.719 --> 00:42:31.679
<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter how much you want to see them do well,

892
00:42:31.679 --> 00:42:34.719
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter what you invest in this team. The

893
00:42:34.760 --> 00:42:37.199
<v Speaker 1>people in charge don't give a rip about you, and

894
00:42:37.239 --> 00:42:39.599
<v Speaker 1>the people running these leagues only care about one thing,

895
00:42:39.599 --> 00:42:44.840
<v Speaker 1>and that's creating shareholder value for their investors. What's what's

896
00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:48.519
<v Speaker 1>going through your mind? If that's all that really there is,

897
00:42:49.440 --> 00:42:52.639
<v Speaker 1>there's no reason to give a rip about any of it.

898
00:42:52.719 --> 00:42:56.480
<v Speaker 2>Quite frankly, well, if you are as if you are

899
00:42:56.480 --> 00:42:59.559
<v Speaker 2>a Utah sports fan, meaning that if you are a

900
00:42:59.679 --> 00:43:04.480
<v Speaker 2>universe Utah or BYU sports fan, be happy because within

901
00:43:04.519 --> 00:43:07.000
<v Speaker 2>the last thirty years you've been able to cheer on

902
00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:09.920
<v Speaker 2>very good teams in a multitude of sports at a

903
00:43:10.000 --> 00:43:12.800
<v Speaker 2>level that a lot of other colleges in this country

904
00:43:12.840 --> 00:43:15.440
<v Speaker 2>don't ever reach, especially at your level. If you're a

905
00:43:15.519 --> 00:43:19.159
<v Speaker 2>pro fan, if you're a fan of the Jazz or RSL,

906
00:43:19.519 --> 00:43:22.960
<v Speaker 2>You've watched your your soccer team hosts hoist a title.

907
00:43:23.440 --> 00:43:26.719
<v Speaker 2>You've watched your basketball team make the playoffs like twenty

908
00:43:26.760 --> 00:43:30.840
<v Speaker 2>five out of thirty years. Like sorry, like again, I'm

909
00:43:30.880 --> 00:43:33.880
<v Speaker 2>going to continue to beat this drum like you want

910
00:43:33.880 --> 00:43:36.400
<v Speaker 2>to be. You want to know who's sad? Spence Charlotte

911
00:43:36.480 --> 00:43:40.079
<v Speaker 2>Hornets fans like, come on, if you have no reason

912
00:43:40.119 --> 00:43:41.800
<v Speaker 2>to be sad as a sports fan in Utah, you

913
00:43:41.840 --> 00:43:42.320
<v Speaker 2>really don't.

914
00:43:43.159 --> 00:43:46.360
<v Speaker 1>Well, But based off this conversation, you have no reason

915
00:43:46.360 --> 00:43:48.079
<v Speaker 1>to be happy if you're a sports fan anywhere.

916
00:43:48.119 --> 00:43:49.400
<v Speaker 2>The truth is always in the middle.

917
00:43:51.079 --> 00:43:53.239
<v Speaker 1>It's so sad, I might as well start a radio

918
00:43:53.280 --> 00:43:56.360
<v Speaker 1>show covering tech bros. Raising funds to start an app

919
00:43:56.400 --> 00:43:57.320
<v Speaker 1>in San Francisco.

920
00:43:57.599 --> 00:44:00.280
<v Speaker 2>No, what you're gonna do is you're gonna turn on

921
00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:03.440
<v Speaker 2>the concer calf match on your laptop on Juice Man

922
00:44:03.679 --> 00:44:05.719
<v Speaker 2>in thirty minutes, and you're gonna see what the shape

923
00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:06.079
<v Speaker 2>looks like.

924
00:44:06.159 --> 00:44:08.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna lie. I like when RSL is playing.

925
00:44:08.920 --> 00:44:11.679
<v Speaker 1>I enjoy the soccers, of course, you know, it's great.

926
00:44:11.760 --> 00:44:15.360
<v Speaker 2>It takes up so much time. We need a distraction,

927
00:44:15.719 --> 00:44:17.679
<v Speaker 2>and it can be bad, and it often is bad.

928
00:44:17.719 --> 00:44:20.880
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes it's good. Yeah, but what are we gonna do? Man,

929
00:44:20.920 --> 00:44:23.480
<v Speaker 2>We're almost forty and forty, Like, what are we doing?

930
00:44:23.519 --> 00:44:26.719
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I'm close to fifty broll coming up next month.

931
00:44:26.760 --> 00:44:28.480
<v Speaker 1>I'll be much closer to fifty than i'm to forty.

932
00:44:28.559 --> 00:44:33.159
<v Speaker 1>That's okay, I'm hanging in yeah, doing all right? All right, dude, Well.

933
00:44:33.039 --> 00:44:36.840
<v Speaker 2>What's your prediction for the match tonight? One to one draw,

934
00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:40.679
<v Speaker 2>bring home a point. My guy Diogo scores on a

935
00:44:41.119 --> 00:44:41.960
<v Speaker 2>free kick. Free kick?

936
00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:44.199
<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, what do you think the what do

937
00:44:44.280 --> 00:44:46.559
<v Speaker 1>you think the formation will be? I read you the

938
00:44:46.639 --> 00:44:48.199
<v Speaker 1>starting eleven. They have four defenders.

939
00:44:48.280 --> 00:44:51.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so it'll be I mean they'll go four two

940
00:44:51.920 --> 00:44:52.719
<v Speaker 2>three one.

941
00:44:52.639 --> 00:44:53.400
<v Speaker 1>Or two three one.

942
00:44:53.480 --> 00:44:53.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

943
00:44:53.719 --> 00:44:56.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because our guy Forrester is the only striker. Yeah,

944
00:44:56.880 --> 00:44:58.480
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna bring in a striker before the start of

945
00:44:58.480 --> 00:44:58.880
<v Speaker 1>the season.

946
00:44:59.039 --> 00:45:00.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, the guy that they trade for that was going

947
00:45:00.960 --> 00:45:03.880
<v Speaker 2>to be like the ideal replacement for Chichio decided he

948
00:45:03.920 --> 00:45:05.480
<v Speaker 2>didn't want to come to Salt Lake and he was

949
00:45:05.599 --> 00:45:08.599
<v Speaker 2>he was offended by the by the by the trades.

950
00:45:10.039 --> 00:45:13.239
<v Speaker 2>Elias Manuel Oh I did not know. Yeah. Tom Bogert

951
00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:16.920
<v Speaker 2>reported today that Elias Manuel did not understand the trade

952
00:45:16.960 --> 00:45:20.880
<v Speaker 2>mechanisms within MLS and was unhappy when the Red Bulls

953
00:45:20.880 --> 00:45:21.960
<v Speaker 2>decided to trade him.

954
00:45:22.039 --> 00:45:23.840
<v Speaker 1>So translation, he didn't want to live.

955
00:45:23.719 --> 00:45:28.199
<v Speaker 2>In Utah, he said, according to a statement provided to

956
00:45:28.320 --> 00:45:31.239
<v Speaker 2>him provided to Tom by him, he has lots of

957
00:45:31.280 --> 00:45:36.519
<v Speaker 2>respect for RSL, but he didn't want to be traded right, yeah.

958
00:45:37.000 --> 00:45:39.920
<v Speaker 1>All right man, Well, illuminating stuff.

959
00:45:40.039 --> 00:45:42.519
<v Speaker 2>Okay, the sun's coming out. We're good man, everybody's good.

960
00:45:42.519 --> 00:45:44.280
<v Speaker 1>We might get fifty degrees this weekend. You to go

961
00:45:44.320 --> 00:45:47.719
<v Speaker 1>golfing if there's a spot. The rotator cuff is ready.

962
00:45:47.719 --> 00:45:49.360
<v Speaker 1>I can swing your cloth a right man. Six weeks

963
00:45:49.360 --> 00:45:52.280
<v Speaker 1>of PT. Let's get you out This show. Christopher com

964
00:45:52.360 --> 00:45:54.880
<v Speaker 1>Rodnie from The Athletic brought to you today by our

965
00:45:54.880 --> 00:45:57.480
<v Speaker 1>good friends at Burt Brothers. Check him out. With over

966
00:45:57.519 --> 00:46:00.920
<v Speaker 1>thirty years of experience in nearly thirty loke, Burt Brothers

967
00:46:00.920 --> 00:46:04.719
<v Speaker 1>ASC certified technicians bring expertise and professionalism to every interaction

968
00:46:05.400 --> 00:46:08.679
<v Speaker 1>industry leading warranties and low price tied guarantees. Our good

969
00:46:08.719 --> 00:46:10.800
<v Speaker 1>friends at Burt Brothers is a one stop shop for

970
00:46:10.840 --> 00:46:13.599
<v Speaker 1>all reliable repairs and maintenance, from tires and alignments to

971
00:46:13.639 --> 00:46:16.840
<v Speaker 1>fluids and breaks, offering a full range of automotive services

972
00:46:16.840 --> 00:46:20.280
<v Speaker 1>tailored to meet your needs. Now offering value tire options

973
00:46:20.320 --> 00:46:22.880
<v Speaker 1>such as Americas and some attires starting at just sixty

974
00:46:22.920 --> 00:46:25.840
<v Speaker 1>nine dollars with warranties that go up to seventy thousand miles.

975
00:46:26.199 --> 00:46:28.360
<v Speaker 1>As one of the few Triple A certified shops in Utah.

976
00:46:28.360 --> 00:46:32.079
<v Speaker 1>Burt Brothers upholds the highest standards in automotive service. Stop

977
00:46:32.119 --> 00:46:35.239
<v Speaker 1>by Burt Brothers your Tirebusters' locations or schedule and appointment

978
00:46:35.239 --> 00:46:37.760
<v Speaker 1>today to experience the trusted service that has made them

979
00:46:37.760 --> 00:46:40.400
<v Speaker 1>a Utah favorite for over three decades. Burt Brothers doing

980
00:46:40.440 --> 00:46:43.119
<v Speaker 1>it better since day one. Check them out online at

981
00:46:43.119 --> 00:46:44.239
<v Speaker 1>Burt Brothers dot com