WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.320 --> 00:00:03.000 So I turned off my pistol and it is silent, 2 00:00:04.120 --> 00:00:06.799 and I'm like looking, I'm trying, I'm like stucking a 3 00:00:06.799 --> 00:00:08.960 little bit to each side, trying to figure out what. 4 00:00:10.599 --> 00:00:15.320 In the hell is going on. And all of a sudden, 5 00:00:15.599 --> 00:00:16.839 it sounds. 6 00:00:17.879 --> 00:00:20.079 Like you loaded up an eighteen wheeler and let it 7 00:00:20.120 --> 00:00:25.160 loose down the side of the mountain, branches, breaking, crashing, 8 00:00:26.280 --> 00:00:27.960 thundering noises. 9 00:00:27.559 --> 00:00:31.800 Which were the footsteps, I assume now just boom boom, 10 00:00:31.800 --> 00:00:33.039 boom boom down. 11 00:00:32.840 --> 00:00:37.399 The side of the mountains, but just paving a trail. Man, 12 00:00:38.600 --> 00:00:40.159 I've never heard anything like that. 13 00:01:13.959 --> 00:01:16.319 This is Bigfoot Crossroads. My name is Matt, and I 14 00:01:16.359 --> 00:01:19.439 am joined by Micah. Mike reached out to me recently 15 00:01:19.640 --> 00:01:26.879 with some interesting experiences he's had in Idaho, and him 16 00:01:26.920 --> 00:01:30.840 and I both but especially him, are hoping that maybe 17 00:01:30.879 --> 00:01:34.319 somebody listening will be able to shed a little light 18 00:01:34.400 --> 00:01:39.400 on his experience and maybe give him something to relate to, 19 00:01:40.000 --> 00:01:42.640 which is something a lot of us are looking for 20 00:01:42.680 --> 00:01:46.879 whenever we witness these things. Micah, thanks for joining me 21 00:01:46.879 --> 00:01:48.000 on Bigfoot Crossroads. 22 00:01:48.799 --> 00:01:50.760 Hey, Matt, thanks for having me. It's a pleasure. 23 00:01:51.000 --> 00:01:54.560 Yeah, absolutely, So take us through that day what you 24 00:01:54.599 --> 00:01:56.120 were doing and everything that happened. 25 00:01:56.560 --> 00:02:02.879 Okay, So first encounter was in twenty fourteen. It was 26 00:02:02.920 --> 00:02:08.159 either March or April. I sorry, fifteen twenty fifteen, March 27 00:02:08.199 --> 00:02:09.199 or April twenty fifteen. 28 00:02:09.840 --> 00:02:11.199 I was a senior in high school. 29 00:02:12.719 --> 00:02:15.120 Had a buddy and I that we would go out 30 00:02:15.159 --> 00:02:18.280 and we would go coyote hunting near the area I 31 00:02:18.400 --> 00:02:21.919 still currently live in, not far from the Boise area, 32 00:02:22.159 --> 00:02:26.360 and we would go out coyote hunting, just out on 33 00:02:26.400 --> 00:02:28.919 the local ranches. We had a couple guys that would 34 00:02:28.919 --> 00:02:31.439 give us fifty bucks a coyote for two eighteen year 35 00:02:31.439 --> 00:02:33.039 old kids for an evening. 36 00:02:33.080 --> 00:02:34.800 That it was a great past time in a way 37 00:02:34.840 --> 00:02:35.759 to have a little cash. 38 00:02:36.080 --> 00:02:36.319 Yeah. 39 00:02:37.639 --> 00:02:41.680 But we both grew up in Valley County, which is 40 00:02:41.680 --> 00:02:44.680 about two hours north of where I live now, Valley County, Idaho. 41 00:02:45.120 --> 00:02:47.680 I'm not going to use his name. I haven't talked 42 00:02:47.680 --> 00:02:50.159 to him about this. I don't have permission to use 43 00:02:50.159 --> 00:02:50.520 his name. 44 00:02:51.080 --> 00:02:51.719 No problem. 45 00:02:51.919 --> 00:02:55.240 Anyways, we were from a similar area growing up, and 46 00:02:55.400 --> 00:02:58.000 so we got permission from our parents. Our homework was 47 00:02:58.039 --> 00:03:00.400 all done, we didn't have tests or anything, so we 48 00:03:00.439 --> 00:03:03.680 got to skip school on a Friday and skip town 49 00:03:03.719 --> 00:03:07.719 and go wolf hunting. For a weekend in Idaho. They 50 00:03:07.759 --> 00:03:13.319 had just recently, like in like five years before that, 51 00:03:13.439 --> 00:03:16.280 I think like late two thousands, they had just reintroduced 52 00:03:16.360 --> 00:03:22.159 wolves in the area in Idaho, and they run rampant. 53 00:03:22.840 --> 00:03:26.159 Especially those first few years. It was nuts. Fish and 54 00:03:26.199 --> 00:03:27.800 game didn't want to say they existed. 55 00:03:27.840 --> 00:03:31.120 People were having cows killed, sheep were being killed, the 56 00:03:31.199 --> 00:03:32.080 elk herds. 57 00:03:32.520 --> 00:03:34.840 I grew up in a really small town. The elk 58 00:03:34.960 --> 00:03:38.039 used to be on the golf course in town at night. Wow. 59 00:03:38.360 --> 00:03:42.439 And once they reintroduced the wolves, they were just gone done. 60 00:03:42.879 --> 00:03:47.000 They were not anywhere they were normally seen once they 61 00:03:47.039 --> 00:03:47.919 reintroduced wolves. 62 00:03:48.039 --> 00:03:48.319 Wow. 63 00:03:48.599 --> 00:03:51.319 And I'm sure they worked over the all Kurds pretty 64 00:03:51.319 --> 00:03:54.520 good anyway. So we went up to just outside of 65 00:03:54.520 --> 00:03:59.680 a town called McCall, Idaho. He had this old jeep, 66 00:03:59.719 --> 00:04:02.599 this old two door jeep, and we called it the 67 00:04:02.919 --> 00:04:04.759 I think we called it the war wagon because that 68 00:04:04.759 --> 00:04:05.840 thing would go anywhere. 69 00:04:05.879 --> 00:04:08.520 It was awesome. And we were. 70 00:04:08.360 --> 00:04:12.840 Kind of cruising these little mountain back roads and there 71 00:04:12.879 --> 00:04:16.959 was a sheep herder in the area. They've been having 72 00:04:16.959 --> 00:04:19.800 problems with wolves for a long time apparently, and my 73 00:04:19.839 --> 00:04:23.639 buddy knew him. The sheep herder had talked to my 74 00:04:23.680 --> 00:04:27.319 buddy's dad two weeks before we went up for this 75 00:04:27.360 --> 00:04:31.240 little hunting weekend and said that he'd lost three of 76 00:04:31.279 --> 00:04:34.879 his guard dogs to a wolf till a single wolf. 77 00:04:35.680 --> 00:04:37.279 That had been coming in and killing his sheep. 78 00:04:37.360 --> 00:04:40.519 I didn't connect all this until a couple of years later, 79 00:04:41.680 --> 00:04:44.720 but he said that one huge black. 80 00:04:44.399 --> 00:04:46.759 Wolf had come in and killed three of his guard dogs. 81 00:04:47.240 --> 00:04:51.279 For a reference that that was a Great Pyrenees and 82 00:04:51.360 --> 00:04:55.360 two Anatolian shepherds. So these are not small dogs that 83 00:04:55.399 --> 00:04:56.199 are being killed. 84 00:04:56.360 --> 00:04:58.519 No, no, not at all. 85 00:04:58.800 --> 00:05:03.120 And something just destroyed those three dogs. So not only 86 00:05:03.199 --> 00:05:05.600 is he losing sheep, he's now lost his guard dogs. 87 00:05:05.879 --> 00:05:09.879 And this guy is not happy this This sheep hurder anyway. 88 00:05:10.000 --> 00:05:15.120 So we are cursing these little back roads, and he 89 00:05:15.240 --> 00:05:19.240 had a spot where he had heard that there was 90 00:05:19.639 --> 00:05:22.920 wolves in this little valley a few weeks prior. 91 00:05:23.839 --> 00:05:25.079 So we stopped and we hike. 92 00:05:25.519 --> 00:05:28.160 It's probably only a quarter mile hike from this little 93 00:05:28.240 --> 00:05:29.959 road up to the top of the ridge where we. 94 00:05:29.920 --> 00:05:31.519 Can kind of see down into the valley. 95 00:05:32.000 --> 00:05:35.399 We come up over this ridge and we sit there 96 00:05:35.439 --> 00:05:37.600 and we're just kind of listening, getting used to the 97 00:05:37.639 --> 00:05:43.480 sounds around us. And my buddy's sitting next to me. 98 00:05:43.639 --> 00:05:46.639 I see him slowly like sit upright, like if you 99 00:05:46.639 --> 00:05:48.560 were sit bolt upright in slow motion. 100 00:05:49.439 --> 00:05:50.240 That's what he did. 101 00:05:50.439 --> 00:05:54.639 And he nudges me and says three seventy right at 102 00:05:54.680 --> 00:05:55.879 the edge of the woodline. 103 00:05:55.959 --> 00:05:57.800 I'm like, okay, So he said three hundred and seventy 104 00:05:57.879 --> 00:06:00.199 yards right at the edge of clearing in front of us. 105 00:06:00.360 --> 00:06:04.240 On the opposite side, it had come out not all 106 00:06:04.279 --> 00:06:08.879 the way across this little meadow, but it was about 107 00:06:08.920 --> 00:06:11.079 three quarters of the way across coming out of the 108 00:06:11.079 --> 00:06:13.800 woodline and looked like it was crossing to the other side. 109 00:06:14.319 --> 00:06:15.519 It's on all fours. 110 00:06:17.959 --> 00:06:21.040 It is black as black can be, which I didn't 111 00:06:21.079 --> 00:06:25.560 think anything of it, again because we had black wolves 112 00:06:25.560 --> 00:06:29.800 in the area. I don't know, I think, I don't remember. 113 00:06:29.839 --> 00:06:34.600 I looked at one point and there's a Canadian gray 114 00:06:34.680 --> 00:06:38.199 wolf timberwolf hybrid that can be black, and the things 115 00:06:38.240 --> 00:06:39.160 are freaking huge. 116 00:06:40.240 --> 00:06:42.040 There's a picture of a. 117 00:06:41.920 --> 00:06:44.759 Guy up in a town called Grangeville, which is about 118 00:06:44.759 --> 00:06:48.000 four four hours north from where we were. 119 00:06:48.319 --> 00:06:50.360 He's holding a wolf under the front legs. 120 00:06:50.360 --> 00:06:52.879 The guy six foot two, by the way, He's holding 121 00:06:52.920 --> 00:06:55.199 a black wolf under its front legs and the back 122 00:06:55.240 --> 00:06:56.600 feet are still touching the ground. 123 00:06:57.680 --> 00:06:59.399 Yeah, so they were big wolves. 124 00:07:00.079 --> 00:07:02.480 So in my mind, I'm thinking, this is just one 125 00:07:02.519 --> 00:07:05.560 of these huge black wolves. 126 00:07:05.560 --> 00:07:07.040 Cool, we're going to get a shot on it. We're 127 00:07:07.079 --> 00:07:10.199 going to get to go home with a wolf. And 128 00:07:10.800 --> 00:07:13.240 something that we would do when we were kyote hunting 129 00:07:13.439 --> 00:07:14.199 is he had a. 130 00:07:15.680 --> 00:07:21.199 Two two three bolt action that his dad had a 131 00:07:21.199 --> 00:07:23.879 surpresser on, a fully legal. He had the documents, he 132 00:07:23.920 --> 00:07:26.800 had the tax stamps, everything, and that thing was a 133 00:07:26.839 --> 00:07:28.040 coyote killing machine. 134 00:07:28.959 --> 00:07:29.759 That gun was. 135 00:07:31.079 --> 00:07:34.279 But what we would do is usually he would take 136 00:07:34.319 --> 00:07:37.199 the first shot and then if he missed, I was 137 00:07:37.439 --> 00:07:40.160 scoped on the same animal, and if he missed, I 138 00:07:40.160 --> 00:07:41.959 would do a follow up shot. 139 00:07:42.160 --> 00:07:44.240 And we had a pretty good success rate with that. 140 00:07:45.879 --> 00:07:48.439 But this time we had decided to switch and I 141 00:07:48.519 --> 00:07:52.040 was going to shoot first. I had an unsuppressed two 142 00:07:52.160 --> 00:07:58.519 twenty three and so I my buddy ranges him and 143 00:07:58.519 --> 00:08:00.000 he says, all right, he's at three seventy four. 144 00:08:00.800 --> 00:08:01.600 That's not exact. 145 00:08:01.639 --> 00:08:03.319 I think it was three hundred and seventy four yards 146 00:08:03.360 --> 00:08:06.360 because we'd been practicing shooting like three hundred to four 147 00:08:06.399 --> 00:08:10.800 hundred on coyotes recently, and we had pretty good success. 148 00:08:11.759 --> 00:08:15.480 So I'm like, all right, So I said, take my breast. 149 00:08:15.519 --> 00:08:17.560 You know, I'm on my little, my little shooting stand, 150 00:08:17.639 --> 00:08:22.959 my tripod. I take my breath and I fired I 151 00:08:23.199 --> 00:08:26.480 and I don't know if I missed or if it 152 00:08:26.519 --> 00:08:27.439 the shot had. 153 00:08:27.279 --> 00:08:29.560 No effect or what, but it didn't know we were there. 154 00:08:30.600 --> 00:08:33.519 It's just kind of at a slow. 155 00:08:34.600 --> 00:08:36.559 Not quite a trot, but it's just moving at a 156 00:08:36.600 --> 00:08:38.360 pretty good little pace across this. 157 00:08:39.120 --> 00:08:40.399 Clearing, not in a hurry. 158 00:08:41.480 --> 00:08:43.200 And I don't know if I missed or if the 159 00:08:43.240 --> 00:08:48.799 shot had no effect, but this thing was gone before 160 00:08:48.879 --> 00:08:54.360 my buddy could take a follow up shot. And it covered. 161 00:08:55.440 --> 00:09:02.360 Probably seventy yards in two seconds three seconds. 162 00:09:02.600 --> 00:09:03.000 Wow. 163 00:09:03.759 --> 00:09:06.120 I mean, I I don't even know how to describe 164 00:09:06.120 --> 00:09:08.360 how fast this thing. I've never seen anything like it 165 00:09:08.399 --> 00:09:15.240 in my life. I was unbelievably fast. And I kind 166 00:09:15.240 --> 00:09:19.080 of looked at my buddy and I was like that 167 00:09:19.080 --> 00:09:21.360 that thing's gone already, and he goes, dude, I didn't 168 00:09:21.360 --> 00:09:23.360 even I couldn't even keep it in the scope to. 169 00:09:23.320 --> 00:09:24.480 Track it for a follow up. 170 00:09:25.080 --> 00:09:29.240 And he he was a ridiculously good shot and he 171 00:09:29.360 --> 00:09:33.240 couldn't couldn't do it. So we're like, all right, well, 172 00:09:33.240 --> 00:09:36.200 that was weird, and we just shot the unsuppressed rifle first, 173 00:09:36.240 --> 00:09:37.600 So we're going to go to a different. 174 00:09:37.279 --> 00:09:37.879 Spot, you know. 175 00:09:39.360 --> 00:09:42.080 So we did, and we ended up going to like 176 00:09:42.120 --> 00:09:45.440 a completely different valley like four miles away and got 177 00:09:45.480 --> 00:09:49.159 a couple of coyotes and nothing crazy. But that that 178 00:09:49.279 --> 00:09:52.759 kind of wraps up that encounter except for the next day. 179 00:09:53.559 --> 00:09:55.399 We went back trying to see, if you know, maybe 180 00:09:55.399 --> 00:09:58.080 we'll get lucky, and this thing comes back through and 181 00:09:58.519 --> 00:10:01.440 like I said in the email, there it was a 182 00:10:01.919 --> 00:10:04.440 tree stump that this thing had walked in front of. 183 00:10:06.200 --> 00:10:07.799 I did not realize it at the time. 184 00:10:07.840 --> 00:10:12.240 I'm not a big dude, I'm only five nine, But 185 00:10:12.360 --> 00:10:15.279 when I walked up to that stump it was. 186 00:10:16.799 --> 00:10:19.080 It is not really a stump. It was a cutoff tree. 187 00:10:20.399 --> 00:10:25.480 That tree cut was just below like my belly button area. 188 00:10:25.559 --> 00:10:29.399 There was daylight between that thing and the stump under 189 00:10:29.440 --> 00:10:29.960 its chet. 190 00:10:30.679 --> 00:10:31.159 Geez. 191 00:10:31.480 --> 00:10:35.159 So I mean again, you're talking three and a half. 192 00:10:35.080 --> 00:10:38.559 Feet maybe four feet to the bottom of the stomach, 193 00:10:39.240 --> 00:10:41.679 which is like four. 194 00:10:41.440 --> 00:10:44.600 And a half five feet at the shoulder. Yeah. I 195 00:10:44.600 --> 00:10:47.440 don't know if any wolf that gets that big. No. 196 00:10:48.360 --> 00:10:49.159 I walked up to. 197 00:10:49.159 --> 00:10:51.879 It and I'm kind of looking at the stump, and 198 00:10:51.919 --> 00:10:53.759 I turned and looked at my buddy, and I can 199 00:10:53.799 --> 00:10:55.200 tell he's thinking the same thing. 200 00:10:56.399 --> 00:11:00.519 And I'm like, did you there was daylight between that 201 00:11:00.639 --> 00:11:02.080 and the stump? Right that wolf? 202 00:11:02.080 --> 00:11:05.000 And he goes, yeah, that's the biggest damn wolf I've 203 00:11:05.039 --> 00:11:08.240 ever seen. And that's and that was the end of it, 204 00:11:08.279 --> 00:11:10.399 because we were like, well, it was just a big 205 00:11:10.440 --> 00:11:14.720 friggin wolf, you know, just a freaking big wolf. 206 00:11:14.919 --> 00:11:18.200 Like, I don't know if any species that gets that big. 207 00:11:18.360 --> 00:11:21.399 I mean, I assume that whenever you fired, both of 208 00:11:21.440 --> 00:11:23.200 you had your scopes on it, right. 209 00:11:23.879 --> 00:11:26.200 Yep, just like we did when we were coyote hunting. 210 00:11:26.679 --> 00:11:30.799 I mean, did you see any physical reaction from being hit? 211 00:11:32.399 --> 00:11:34.679 No, That's why I don't know if I missed or 212 00:11:35.039 --> 00:11:36.200 if the shot had no effect. 213 00:11:36.279 --> 00:11:39.440 You know, after listening to some podcasts, I've heard that 214 00:11:39.480 --> 00:11:42.279 these things are you know, whatever you want. 215 00:11:42.080 --> 00:11:44.039 To call it, whether it's bulletproof or the bullets just 216 00:11:44.080 --> 00:11:46.639 don't do anything. But I don't know. 217 00:11:46.840 --> 00:11:50.120 I mean, I've taken shots at really similar ranges on 218 00:11:50.200 --> 00:11:52.039 coyotes which were a lot smaller than. 219 00:11:51.960 --> 00:11:56.639 This thing, and I'd rolled them. Yeah, So I don't know. 220 00:11:57.039 --> 00:11:58.759 Like I said, I don't know if I missed or 221 00:11:58.759 --> 00:12:01.120 if it just didn't do anything, but it was gone 222 00:12:01.799 --> 00:12:03.679 before my buddy could even figure it out and get 223 00:12:03.759 --> 00:12:05.600 a follow up shot. And we, like I said we 224 00:12:05.679 --> 00:12:09.879 would coyote hunt, we would both be scoped in and 225 00:12:09.960 --> 00:12:11.799 as soon as we figured out if he missed or not, 226 00:12:11.840 --> 00:12:16.039 because usually he shot the suppressed rifle first, and if 227 00:12:16.039 --> 00:12:18.960 he missed, I would follow up on it. And we'd 228 00:12:18.960 --> 00:12:22.879 done it many times in whatever order and successfully. 229 00:12:23.120 --> 00:12:27.440 And it was gone and I'm gone before he could 230 00:12:27.480 --> 00:12:28.000 do anything. 231 00:12:29.399 --> 00:12:31.480 Did everything about it seem normal? 232 00:12:31.559 --> 00:12:31.639 Like? 233 00:12:31.679 --> 00:12:34.360 Did it look normal in appearance? From what you could tell? 234 00:12:35.240 --> 00:12:40.480 I was so excited to see a wolf that I didn't, shamefully, 235 00:12:40.519 --> 00:12:41.440 I didn't look. 236 00:12:41.279 --> 00:12:45.679 Super closely, but it, I mean it was. It didn't 237 00:12:45.679 --> 00:12:49.120 seem all that out of the normal. It was big, 238 00:12:49.159 --> 00:12:50.840 it was on all floors, it had. 239 00:12:50.679 --> 00:12:57.679 A tail, it had wolf type ears. I mean it 240 00:12:57.759 --> 00:13:00.200 looked like a mass. 241 00:13:00.080 --> 00:13:03.159 Of black wolves and just solid black. 242 00:13:03.320 --> 00:13:07.080 Jeah, I mean black as black can be in my 243 00:13:07.240 --> 00:13:11.279 in my scope, the it was blacker than the black 244 00:13:11.320 --> 00:13:12.080 of my crosst. 245 00:13:12.480 --> 00:13:16.679 Yeah, which is also something that I've heard witnesses mentioned before, 246 00:13:16.960 --> 00:13:19.480 is how dark of a black it was. 247 00:13:20.039 --> 00:13:22.799 Yeah, that's that part's for real. I can tell you 248 00:13:22.840 --> 00:13:23.240 that much. 249 00:13:23.600 --> 00:13:26.600 And then the speed that it left the area. I mean, 250 00:13:26.639 --> 00:13:29.399 typically the larger something is, the slower it is. 251 00:13:29.440 --> 00:13:31.559 You know what I mean, Man, you would think so, 252 00:13:32.440 --> 00:13:36.279 I've never seen anything moved the way this thing did. 253 00:13:36.879 --> 00:13:38.360 Not an animal, not a human. 254 00:13:38.960 --> 00:13:43.679 It was unbelievable. Like I said, it was seventy yards ish. 255 00:13:44.919 --> 00:13:45.720 It was nuts. 256 00:13:47.000 --> 00:13:50.320 You're an experienced coyote hunter at that point, and you've 257 00:13:50.320 --> 00:13:54.600 had the ability to, you know, take double shots previously. 258 00:13:54.759 --> 00:13:57.039 You're used to the movements, You're used to the speed. 259 00:13:58.399 --> 00:14:00.559 I mean, that's what I tell people. You know, over 260 00:14:00.639 --> 00:14:04.200 and over again. You were the one that was there 261 00:14:04.399 --> 00:14:07.559 and witnessed it and experienced everything. You would know better 262 00:14:07.600 --> 00:14:08.480 than anyone else. 263 00:14:09.000 --> 00:14:11.840 If my friend hadn't been here, I would have thought 264 00:14:11.879 --> 00:14:12.519 I imagined it. 265 00:14:13.360 --> 00:14:14.360 That's how fast it was. 266 00:14:14.720 --> 00:14:18.320 No noises or anything like that. Obviously, whenever you went 267 00:14:18.399 --> 00:14:20.159 back the next day, you didn't see any signs of 268 00:14:20.159 --> 00:14:21.039 blood or anything. 269 00:14:21.639 --> 00:14:24.679 No, no signs of blood. I didn't really hear noises. 270 00:14:24.720 --> 00:14:27.960 But like I said, we were three one hundred and 271 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:31.480 seventy five yards away. Yeah, so I don't think I mean, 272 00:14:31.519 --> 00:14:34.519 if there was noise that we could hear from that far, 273 00:14:36.080 --> 00:14:37.000 it would have been. 274 00:14:36.840 --> 00:14:40.399 A hell of a racket. But no, there was no noise, 275 00:14:40.519 --> 00:14:41.960 there was no blood, nothing. 276 00:14:42.799 --> 00:14:45.840 Do you happen to know if the property owner had 277 00:14:45.840 --> 00:14:47.279 any more problems after that? 278 00:14:47.759 --> 00:14:48.960 The sheep hurder was. 279 00:14:50.519 --> 00:14:53.200 His land where he ran his sheep was like, I 280 00:14:53.200 --> 00:14:56.559 think a mile away as the crow flies. So we 281 00:14:56.559 --> 00:14:58.759 were close to the property, but we were actually on 282 00:14:58.919 --> 00:15:00.639 public land during that incident. 283 00:15:00.919 --> 00:15:04.039 But you never heard anything from him afterwards. 284 00:15:04.240 --> 00:15:08.279 No, because we graduated in May and then I'm still 285 00:15:08.320 --> 00:15:10.759 friends with the guy, but I don't see the guy 286 00:15:10.799 --> 00:15:11.320 that I was with. 287 00:15:11.440 --> 00:15:13.360 I'm still friends with him, but we don't see each 288 00:15:13.360 --> 00:15:16.120 other super often. Yeah, so we just. 289 00:15:16.120 --> 00:15:17.879 Kind of it was a big black wolf and we 290 00:15:17.960 --> 00:15:20.840 missed and that sucks And how was that? 291 00:15:22.000 --> 00:15:22.240 Dog? 292 00:15:22.360 --> 00:15:26.159 Man? Is not my field of expertise, I would say, 293 00:15:27.559 --> 00:15:29.519 but it's something that I have talked to people about, 294 00:15:29.840 --> 00:15:33.679 and I have talked to several people who have reported 295 00:15:34.320 --> 00:15:42.679 seeing what you're describing a large black wolf except supersized. Yeah, 296 00:15:42.720 --> 00:15:47.840 and you're probably the third or fourth person that I've 297 00:15:47.879 --> 00:15:52.559 talked to that has witnessed something like this from all 298 00:15:52.600 --> 00:15:57.240 over the United States. So it's definitely something at this point. Yeah, 299 00:15:57.240 --> 00:16:00.840 I would definitely say that. I can't say, you know, 300 00:16:00.879 --> 00:16:02.159 you didn't see it stand up. 301 00:16:02.120 --> 00:16:04.639 Or anything not that I saw. 302 00:16:04.840 --> 00:16:06.919 No, Yeah, I can't say that it was a dog 303 00:16:07.039 --> 00:16:11.080 man as people describe a dog man being on two legs. Yeah, 304 00:16:11.200 --> 00:16:13.200 they say they can go on all fours and stand 305 00:16:13.279 --> 00:16:17.159 up on two legs and vice versa. So I mean, 306 00:16:17.159 --> 00:16:19.639 it's definitely a possibility, but it's definitely something. Like I 307 00:16:19.679 --> 00:16:22.519 said that, I've talked to other people who have said 308 00:16:22.559 --> 00:16:25.799 that they've seen the same thing. So there's something out there. Yeah, 309 00:16:25.879 --> 00:16:31.000 that's being seen by people that in all descriptions of 310 00:16:31.080 --> 00:16:32.240 a giant black wolf. 311 00:16:32.440 --> 00:16:33.200 Oh, that's for sure. 312 00:16:33.759 --> 00:16:36.120 I honestly, if that thing had stood up on two legs, 313 00:16:36.120 --> 00:16:37.720 I probably would have had a heart attack. As big 314 00:16:37.720 --> 00:16:41.320 as it was. I mean, I had a coworker that 315 00:16:41.399 --> 00:16:45.960 had two two big, great dings, Like one of them 316 00:16:46.000 --> 00:16:49.200 could stand just normally in front of me and barely 317 00:16:49.240 --> 00:16:50.960 tip his head back, and we were nosed to know 318 00:16:51.200 --> 00:16:55.480 he was a big dog. Yeah, and this this whatever 319 00:16:55.600 --> 00:17:00.799 I shot at dwarfed that great dane. 320 00:17:01.399 --> 00:17:01.600 Yeah. 321 00:17:01.720 --> 00:17:04.200 One guy I talked to described it as at first 322 00:17:04.279 --> 00:17:06.920 he thought he was looking at a black cow out 323 00:17:06.920 --> 00:17:10.119 in the field. But it wasn't moving like a cow. 324 00:17:10.519 --> 00:17:12.480 And then it kind of turned its body where he 325 00:17:12.480 --> 00:17:15.599 could see its silhouette better and realized that it was 326 00:17:15.640 --> 00:17:16.359 a canine. 327 00:17:16.640 --> 00:17:19.559 Yeah, this this thing was broadside to us. There was 328 00:17:19.599 --> 00:17:22.519 never a question that it was a wolf. I mean 329 00:17:22.559 --> 00:17:24.319 it was as a hunter. 330 00:17:25.400 --> 00:17:29.319 This is like almost a picture perfect shot. He's he's 331 00:17:29.359 --> 00:17:29.880 he is. 332 00:17:29.799 --> 00:17:34.960 Coming from like my three o'clock towards my nine o'clock. 333 00:17:35.119 --> 00:17:38.279 I've got the wind in my face where he's ranged. 334 00:17:38.400 --> 00:17:41.640 He's just tutulu and along this clear. 335 00:17:41.759 --> 00:17:44.559 I mean, it was perfect. I don't know. 336 00:17:44.640 --> 00:17:47.640 I don't again, I don't know if I don't know 337 00:17:47.759 --> 00:17:51.680 how I missed, if I missed. I saw that shot 338 00:17:51.759 --> 00:17:54.160 in my sleep for weeks after that. 339 00:17:55.759 --> 00:17:58.279 Because I wanted a black wolf. I was going to 340 00:17:58.319 --> 00:18:03.480 get it mounted. I wanted that black wolf. 341 00:18:04.160 --> 00:18:07.880 The moment that we realized, like holy cow, that was 342 00:18:07.920 --> 00:18:10.799 the biggest damn wolf we've ever seen, because my buddy's 343 00:18:10.839 --> 00:18:13.640 a little bit taller than me, and when we walked 344 00:18:13.720 --> 00:18:18.720 up on that cut tree and realized how tall that 345 00:18:18.720 --> 00:18:22.160 thing was at the shoulders, we were like, holy crap. 346 00:18:23.119 --> 00:18:28.279 So the shot is something that's what triggered me and 347 00:18:28.319 --> 00:18:33.960 triggered memories within myself. I had this friend. He passed 348 00:18:34.000 --> 00:18:36.759 away whenever we were young, but we were best friends 349 00:18:36.759 --> 00:18:39.759 in high school. Spent a lot of time together, a 350 00:18:39.759 --> 00:18:43.279 lot of time talking. He was Native American and his 351 00:18:43.359 --> 00:18:45.920 family had some land that they would go hunting on. 352 00:18:46.039 --> 00:18:49.279 They had a cabin there and they'd go deer hunting 353 00:18:49.319 --> 00:18:53.160 every year and on this property, which I have been to. 354 00:18:53.680 --> 00:18:55.680 It's a pretty crazy place. 355 00:18:55.440 --> 00:18:55.599 But. 356 00:18:57.960 --> 00:19:02.359 They would see a large black cat. They described it 357 00:19:02.400 --> 00:19:06.960 as a panther. Yeah, And I know he even had 358 00:19:07.000 --> 00:19:09.519 his brother talk to me about it. One time. His 359 00:19:09.720 --> 00:19:13.519 father and his brother both had taken shots at this 360 00:19:13.640 --> 00:19:18.119 thing while deer hunting on the property. And I mean 361 00:19:18.160 --> 00:19:20.799 both of these guys were crack shots, you know, especially 362 00:19:20.880 --> 00:19:23.680 his dad had been hunting for years and years and 363 00:19:23.759 --> 00:19:30.319 years and years, and same reaction, you know, absolutely swear 364 00:19:30.400 --> 00:19:33.200 up and down. They hit it, had it dead to rights, 365 00:19:33.359 --> 00:19:36.079 and it didn't even flinch. It would just run off. 366 00:19:36.680 --> 00:19:41.359 Yeah, and that's exactly what happened with this thing. And 367 00:19:41.559 --> 00:19:44.200 my buddy was like, did you hit it? And I 368 00:19:44.279 --> 00:19:48.519 was like, you've seen me make that shot. I made 369 00:19:48.519 --> 00:19:51.759 that shot. It was less than a week prior. It 370 00:19:51.839 --> 00:19:55.039 was the Saturday before we'd gone kyote hunting and we'd 371 00:19:55.079 --> 00:19:58.400 gotten three of them, and I made that almost exactly 372 00:19:58.480 --> 00:20:02.240 the same shot on a coyote, which is, you know, 373 00:20:02.279 --> 00:20:06.200 the the coyotes in Idaho aren't huge. There're fifty sixty pounds, 374 00:20:07.200 --> 00:20:09.319 so it's a lot smaller than this thing was. 375 00:20:10.440 --> 00:20:13.240 And I don't I don't know. I don't know if 376 00:20:13.240 --> 00:20:13.839 I'll ever. 377 00:20:13.720 --> 00:20:17.960 Know to not even flinch or anything. I mean, yeah, 378 00:20:18.000 --> 00:20:21.079 whenever you miss a shot, you usually know that you 379 00:20:21.200 --> 00:20:22.640 missed it, you know what I. 380 00:20:22.599 --> 00:20:25.720 Mean, absolutely, I do. Once you've taken enough shots, you're like, 381 00:20:25.839 --> 00:20:27.880 can't I pulled that? Na miss? 382 00:20:28.119 --> 00:20:28.640 Yeah? 383 00:20:28.640 --> 00:20:29.160 I was low? 384 00:20:29.240 --> 00:20:31.880 You know you can usually you can usually call where 385 00:20:31.880 --> 00:20:34.079 the shot goes if you if you spend the amount 386 00:20:34.079 --> 00:20:36.640 of time behind the scope. And man, I just don't know. 387 00:20:37.200 --> 00:20:41.000 Maybe somebody will be listening that we'll be able to say, yeah, 388 00:20:41.039 --> 00:20:42.000 that happened to me too. 389 00:20:42.400 --> 00:20:44.880 I would love it if somebody else from Idaho's had 390 00:20:44.920 --> 00:20:45.920 something like that happened. 391 00:20:46.519 --> 00:20:52.759 I can say that I have heard mention that some 392 00:20:52.960 --> 00:20:55.839 of the natives up around Idaho do talk about a 393 00:20:55.839 --> 00:20:56.720 dog man creature. 394 00:20:57.200 --> 00:21:00.599 Really, Yeah, if you hear anything in the future, I 395 00:21:00.599 --> 00:21:01.599 would love to hear it. 396 00:21:01.680 --> 00:21:05.720 Yeah, for sure. I'll definitely put you into contact with 397 00:21:05.759 --> 00:21:06.200 some people. 398 00:21:06.400 --> 00:21:07.200 I appreciate that. 399 00:21:08.599 --> 00:21:11.759 So, but this wasn't your only strange encounter. 400 00:21:11.799 --> 00:21:12.559 No, it was not. 401 00:21:13.160 --> 00:21:17.000