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<v Speaker 1>You see, something's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>What? What's going to happen?

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<v Speaker 1>What?

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the Occult Rejects. Our guest today is Heather

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<v Speaker 2>l Arnold, the researcher and owner of Ancient Aruba Tours

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<v Speaker 2>and the author of Forthcoming of the Forthcoming, The Islands

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<v Speaker 2>of the Giants, the Lost Race of Giants of Aruba,

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<v Speaker 2>can Boner and Corocco. I'm saying that correctly. I screw

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<v Speaker 2>that up a serious universe. A Syracuse University graduate and

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<v Speaker 2>former TV industry professional, Heather has spent the past several

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<v Speaker 2>years combining colonial archives archaeological reports in the caves of

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<v Speaker 2>the ABC Islands for evidence of a long forgotten race

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<v Speaker 2>of elongated skull giants. And she's here to share what

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<v Speaker 2>she's uncovered. But before we get to her, we will

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<v Speaker 2>talk to the other rejects and introduce them first. Heidi.

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<v Speaker 2>We got Heidi Love Unfiltered Rise Podcast, The Morman Slayer.

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<v Speaker 2>What is going on?

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<v Speaker 3>Not much?

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<v Speaker 4>Not much.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm so happy to be here, especially with friends.

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<v Speaker 6>I love it. It's gonna be awesome, Heather. I'm so

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<v Speaker 6>excited to hear from you. So I'm excited for this show.

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<v Speaker 6>And find me at the Unfiltered Rise Everywhere podcasts are served.

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<v Speaker 2>Awesome and thank you so much. Ready and now next

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<v Speaker 2>week got Julia from Cosmic Peach. What is going on?

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<v Speaker 4>Julia?

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<v Speaker 7>Hey, Nick, thanks for having me. I'm really excited about

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<v Speaker 7>this one. It's one of my favorite subjects to talk about.

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<v Speaker 7>And thanks for allowing me to be a part of

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<v Speaker 7>the Occult Reject so I can meet awesome guests like

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<v Speaker 7>this because this subject is definitely, like I said, one

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<v Speaker 7>of my absolute fav topics. So excited for the show.

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<v Speaker 7>Cosmic Peach podcast wherever you listen to podcasts and yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, thank you for joining us, Julia, and I

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<v Speaker 2>assume like when I have top notch researches with me

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<v Speaker 2>on the show, I got to bring the heat good guests,

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<v Speaker 2>so you know it works out. Yeah, thank you. And

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<v Speaker 2>we got Tim Constantine joining us today. Very exciting. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>very happy he made it with us from sixth Censory Podcasts.

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<v Speaker 2>Please Tim, let everybody know where they can find your

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<v Speaker 2>amazing work.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey Nick, thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 8>Always good to be here on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>I love this show.

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<v Speaker 8>I love being a part of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Hell yoh, thank you, thank you, thank you for real.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, you can find me at sixth Sensory Podcast I

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<v Speaker 8>spell it Out six Spotify, YouTube, Patreon and some other places.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, Heather Arnold, thanks for being here.

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<v Speaker 8>I love your work and like I told you before,

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<v Speaker 8>but I also love your energy, so I'm really looking

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<v Speaker 8>forward to this.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Thank you man, thanks for joining us, Tim,

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<v Speaker 2>and finally to Heather. Please, Heather, let everybody know like

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<v Speaker 2>what you would like to plug, where they can find

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<v Speaker 2>you or whatever you'd like to promote.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much. Thank you for having me. It's

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<v Speaker 1>great meeting all of you. It's nice to have this format.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe I've ever had this many people on

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast before before, so I kind of I like

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<v Speaker 1>it because it'll be something new for me. I am.

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<v Speaker 1>I have been here now all together for eight years.

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<v Speaker 1>I have been studying the giants, however, for now going

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<v Speaker 1>on it has to be eighteen years. I have an

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<v Speaker 1>amazing daughter who is half a Ruben and half American,

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<v Speaker 1>and I currently do tours following in the footsteps of

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<v Speaker 1>the giants called Ancient Aruba tours. They'refore our private tours.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're ever in Aruba, you can contact me

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<v Speaker 1>through social media. I have My exicot is Heather l Arnold,

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<v Speaker 1>my Facebook is Heather l Arnold, and my Instagram is

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<v Speaker 1>Heather l Arnold. So you can find me on all

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<v Speaker 1>three of those platforms and you can contact me there

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<v Speaker 1>via a private message and we can arrange tours. I've

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<v Speaker 1>done many tours with people that have seen my podcast

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<v Speaker 1>on x and see my podcast on YouTube and et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're ever in Aruba, or you know someone

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<v Speaker 1>coming to a Aruba and they're very interested in archaeological tours,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't just do the sites of the Giants. I

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<v Speaker 1>also show other strange, bizarre, sometimes creepy sites that I

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<v Speaker 1>have to do with death and burials and things of

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<v Speaker 1>that nature that no tour will take you to. So

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<v Speaker 1>and I would love to say it here, but if

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<v Speaker 1>I say it and then some other tour company hears me,

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna take all of my tour stops. But it

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<v Speaker 1>it's an excellent tour and if anyone would like to

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<v Speaker 1>join me for a private tour, police feel free. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>I am currently writing my book The Islands of the Giants,

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<v Speaker 1>The Lost Race of Giants of Aruba, Boner and Cira

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<v Speaker 1>South And if you follow me on my social media.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you'll know more about my writings. And I look

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<v Speaker 1>forward to seeing you in Aruba and telling you about

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<v Speaker 1>the giants.

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<v Speaker 2>Awesome, that's good for you. That's some crazy stuff. So

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I like to get into it. What was

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<v Speaker 2>it that got into giants studying this?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a great question. So I came to Aruba

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<v Speaker 1>and I was here on a vacation, and I started

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<v Speaker 1>doing some hikes and looking at the petroglyphs and the

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<v Speaker 1>pictographs here, and I noticed something very strange, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>that they were similar to drawings that are seen all

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<v Speaker 1>over the world and including out west, including in Europe,

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<v Speaker 1>South America, even so ones on Easter Island so far

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<v Speaker 1>away Japan even has similar drawings. And so that struck

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<v Speaker 1>me as odd. And then I tried to delve into

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<v Speaker 1>the history that is taught to the kids here in

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<v Speaker 1>school about Aruba, what is the ancient history, And they

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<v Speaker 1>don't really go into much ancient history. They kind of

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<v Speaker 1>start the history at the time the Vespucci came to

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<v Speaker 1>the island, which is where I then started my to

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<v Speaker 1>do my research. So it's interesting because they say, like

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<v Speaker 1>Aruba was founded in fourteen ninety nine, which is when

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<v Speaker 1>Vespucci first set foot on this island with several of

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<v Speaker 1>his men, after he took a ship here from the

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<v Speaker 1>mainland of what is now Venezuela. We are currently sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>miles by the way off the coast of Venezuela, so

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<v Speaker 1>I can actually see Venezuela from here. And so once

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<v Speaker 1>I began to realize that why is there no history

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<v Speaker 1>before Vespucci came? It doesn't even make sense. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I realized that the kids in school are taught that

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<v Speaker 1>Aruba was called the useless Island because it's so arid.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a desert island. You can't grow anything here, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't have livestock. Of course that's changed and there have

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<v Speaker 1>been methods to change that, but at the time that

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<v Speaker 1>was the name, which I thought was very odd, because

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<v Speaker 1>Aruba has gold, and a lot of gold, some of

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<v Speaker 1>the most gold of anywhere in the Caribbean, and other

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<v Speaker 1>not just gold, semi precious stones are found here, crystals.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a whole mountain called Crystal Mountain here that's been

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<v Speaker 1>raped in pillaged, sadly, but nonetheless you can still find

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<v Speaker 1>some gems if you look around. And so then I said, no,

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<v Speaker 1>there's got to be something hidden, There's something going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Why are they calling it the useless island? Why was

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<v Speaker 1>Vespucci so infested to come to this little, tiny island.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't make sense, especially when you're already in South America.

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<v Speaker 1>Why why are you coming up to these islands? And

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<v Speaker 1>so then as I did more and more research, I

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<v Speaker 1>started with Vespucci and I started reading his letters that

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<v Speaker 1>he wrote after he first came to Aruba, and there

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<v Speaker 1>is where he tells that he details in details, specific

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<v Speaker 1>detail of all the places he's visiting on his journey,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's very specific in his descriptions. He is he

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<v Speaker 1>takes with him on his journey, by the way, top scientists, philosophers, uh, doctors,

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<v Speaker 1>people who are experts in flora and fauna, people who

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<v Speaker 1>would we we would consider today anthropologists. So he's he's

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<v Speaker 1>considering these also research missions, you know, not just probably

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<v Speaker 1>looking for treasure, which of course he most likely one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent was, but also trying to report back about

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<v Speaker 1>these all these strange cultures he's coming across that are

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<v Speaker 1>so foreign to the Europeans at that time, and he

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<v Speaker 1>had just left an island incidentally, in his writings. You

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<v Speaker 1>can actually get this book. It's called Letters from the

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<v Speaker 1>New World. And he had just left an island where

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<v Speaker 1>he saw it's off the coast of Venezuela closer actually yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it's actually closer to Colombia. And he had seen a

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<v Speaker 1>human being spun around on a spit over a fire,

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<v Speaker 1>being prepared to be eaten, and he details it very much.

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<v Speaker 1>So he details what people are eating, where people are wearing,

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<v Speaker 1>what they are even their their sexual practices. He's very

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<v Speaker 1>involved in detailing these people and so he does. He

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<v Speaker 1>details that and then the next thing, the next place

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<v Speaker 1>he goes is Aruba, so he and interestingly after his

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<v Speaker 1>encounter with the giants, he encountered the giants in Aruba,

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<v Speaker 1>and he details it. But after that encounter he said

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<v Speaker 1>that he thought he was going to die the day

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<v Speaker 1>he met the giants, because that's how big they were, informidable.

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<v Speaker 1>And yet he had just come from an island where

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<v Speaker 1>someone was being a human was being cooked over a

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<v Speaker 1>fire on a spit, but that he wasn't nervous about that,

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<v Speaker 1>but the giants really really scared him. And he details

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<v Speaker 1>in grape depth about coming to the island from mainland Venezuela, which,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, for a backstory, which would be a

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<v Speaker 1>whole wonderful, amazing book if I had the time. Columbus

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<v Speaker 1>was actually the first person to hear about Aruba. He

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<v Speaker 1>heard about Aruba from the mainland Arawak, from Venezuela, and

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<v Speaker 1>they told Columbus that there was gold in Aruba and

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<v Speaker 1>that there were giants. So when he went back to Europe,

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<v Speaker 1>Columbus he told the Medici brothers, they were the ones

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<v Speaker 1>financing all of these journeys. Oh, you know, next time,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to go to Aruba and we're gonna They're okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to have a little problem with giants, but

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<v Speaker 1>there's gold there. And so what America Vespucci did is

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<v Speaker 1>he married one of the Medici daughters and basically framed

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<v Speaker 1>Columbus and said he embezzled money from them, and he

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<v Speaker 1>and Margo Vespucci was awarded the permit to come to

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<v Speaker 1>the New World. So he was he actually, you know

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<v Speaker 1>that you have to think about what went on there,

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<v Speaker 1>but that could be a whole other book and a

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<v Speaker 1>whole drama in and of itself to something interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>You said the Medici family, correct, Sorry to interrupt, you

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<v Speaker 2>said the Medici family. I'm sorry you said the Medici

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<v Speaker 2>is correct. Yes, I just recently had covered a Marsilio Ficino.

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<v Speaker 2>He was kind of like a I mean, I would

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<v Speaker 2>say he's gonna cult this an alchemist and he was

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<v Speaker 2>also a Catholic priest at one point, and he the

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<v Speaker 2>only reason he got to where he was going is

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<v Speaker 2>because of the Medici family funded him. His father worked

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<v Speaker 2>for the Medici family, so he was able to, like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they gave him money to open up school

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<v Speaker 2>and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, very interesting. You know, there's still powerful to this day,

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<v Speaker 1>there's still an active family. There's still powerful with one

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<v Speaker 1>of the wealthiest families ever on earth in modern times. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>so they So when Vespucci came, he came to he

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<v Speaker 1>had a smaller ship. He left the bigger ship over

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<v Speaker 1>in the mainland of South America and came over to

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<v Speaker 1>Aruba and immediately noticed footprints in the sand, giant footprints

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<v Speaker 1>in the sand. And of course the men were intrigued.

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<v Speaker 1>They already had heard that there were giants on the island.

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<v Speaker 1>The people on the mainland told him that there were giants,

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<v Speaker 1>but they were generally peaceful unless they felt threatened, and

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<v Speaker 1>then they were not peaceful anymore. And he also heard,

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<v Speaker 1>interestingly that they worshiped the sun, which is very interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>and so he came over. He sees the footprints, and

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<v Speaker 1>he and the team they start to follow the footprints

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<v Speaker 1>and they come across these women, and there is an

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<v Speaker 1>two teenage girls. And the men are shocked at the

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<v Speaker 1>size of even the teenage girls. He describes them as giants,

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<v Speaker 1>that they were naked, that they seemed wild, they couldn't speak.

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<v Speaker 1>They were drinking brackish water, which is interesting because if

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<v Speaker 1>you live in a place like a Ruba, drinking brackish

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<v Speaker 1>do because you're losing so much salt constantly in this

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<v Speaker 1>tremendous heat. So he then follows the women and the

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<v Speaker 1>girls into their village and so they have this full

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<v Speaker 1>blown village, which I know exactly where Vespucci came in

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<v Speaker 1>on the island. I know exactly where the village was.

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<v Speaker 1>I know there's pottery still there, most advanced pottery I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever seen in my life. And I could go on

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<v Speaker 1>about that site. That site is just incredible and so

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<v Speaker 1>then he's the men are like, okay, let's steal the

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<v Speaker 1>two teenage girls and bring them back to Europe because

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<v Speaker 1>they're so you know, they're giants, they're giant girls. So

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<v Speaker 1>as they're coming up with this plan, all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>thirty six men come into the camp and they have

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<v Speaker 1>these massive weapons, weapons so large. He goes on to

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<v Speaker 1>describe them and says, I can't I wouldn't even be

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<v Speaker 1>able to hold them, to carry them, to pick them

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<v Speaker 1>up myself. They're trying to imagine what could these weapons

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<v Speaker 1>even before what were they doing. And the men were

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<v Speaker 1>so large, he said, even if they were kneeling and

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<v Speaker 1>I were standing, they would still be taller than me.

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<v Speaker 1>So they immediately abort mission on stealing the girls, and

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<v Speaker 1>they decide to just go back to the boat. They're

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<v Speaker 1>so terrified they don't want to do more any further.

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<v Speaker 1>They forgot about the gold. So as they're going back

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<v Speaker 1>to the ship, right behind them are the giants. And

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<v Speaker 1>the giants are so tall that even when the men

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<v Speaker 1>get back on the ship, they're still walking in the water.

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<v Speaker 1>The giants are still walking in the water and above

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<v Speaker 1>the water because they're so tall. So Vespucci gets so

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<v Speaker 1>freaked out he orders his men to shoot off cannons

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<v Speaker 1>to scare them, and that was the only way they retreated.

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<v Speaker 1>And at the end of this letter he's writing, he says,

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<v Speaker 1>so I call this island the Islands of the Giants

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<v Speaker 1>due to the large statued people who live there. And

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<v Speaker 1>so that was the beginning of me realizing, wow, this

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<v Speaker 1>this was called the island of the giants. So then

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<v Speaker 1>I found a map from fifteen o two cawed. The

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<v Speaker 1>map is Mundi and it's by one de la Cosa,

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<v Speaker 1>and on the map it actually has Aruba noted as

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<v Speaker 1>the island of the giants. And so the giants weren't

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<v Speaker 1>just here in Aruba, though, they were also in Bonaire

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<v Speaker 1>and Curasau, which are all three islands were one island

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<v Speaker 1>that were torn apart by a series of three mega

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<v Speaker 1>tsunamis starting in five hundred BC to thirty five hundred BC.

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<v Speaker 1>And so these mega tsunamis geologically show that the islands

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<v Speaker 1>were once one and now are consequently three different islands.

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<v Speaker 1>And so these giants were on all three islands. They

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<v Speaker 1>had elongated skulls, massive bodies, massive bones, big teeth, They

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<v Speaker 1>were big people. They were not skinny people, and they

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<v Speaker 1>were not like NBA players. They were very large, heavy people.

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<v Speaker 1>Their bones are much thicker than ours. Their teeth were

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<v Speaker 1>different than ours. They had shovel shaped teeth. Their heads

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<v Speaker 1>were naturally elongated, as proven in the archaeological reports, because

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<v Speaker 1>not only did they find a fetus that had an

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<v Speaker 1>elongated skull, and it takes at least six months to

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<v Speaker 1>make a fetus elongated. If the fetus does not is

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<v Speaker 1>not born with an elongated skull, if you're just doing

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<v Speaker 1>head binding, the headboarding and all that, you would have

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<v Speaker 1>to wait six months for the skull to form into

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<v Speaker 1>that egg shape for example. But this fetus already had

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<v Speaker 1>an elongated skull and there was no evidence of head

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<v Speaker 1>binding had with the headboards. No, the archaeologists were searching

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<v Speaker 1>for it. They wanted they wanted to find evidence that

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<v Speaker 1>this wasn't a natural occurrence because they couldn't believe these

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<v Speaker 1>people were born with elongated skulls. They had very very

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<v Speaker 1>complex rituals of death. Their their their rituals of death

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<v Speaker 1>to me far exceed their rituals of life. I think

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<v Speaker 1>they solely focused on the afterlife. And yeah, they have

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<v Speaker 1>tons of evidence still here right in front of our faces.

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<v Speaker 1>People will be on a beach and not realize they're

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<v Speaker 1>right behind a median burial ground with like hundreds of

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<v Speaker 1>bodies of giants through still in the ground, which is

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<v Speaker 1>even more incredible. And there's actually even a giant skeleton

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<v Speaker 1>on display on the island of Bonair in their archaeology

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<v Speaker 1>museum right now to this day. I just recently saw

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<v Speaker 1>it a year ago. I tried to check up on

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<v Speaker 1>it every now and then, and the government admits it

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<v Speaker 1>was a giant. So that's how I got into the giants.

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<v Speaker 1>It drew me in just from learning about the history

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<v Speaker 1>of Aruba, putting together a tour company, which I had

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<v Speaker 1>another tour company before that was more Jeeps and Harley Davidson's,

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<v Speaker 1>and through that tour company and trying to put together

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<v Speaker 1>an accurate tour is when I just came across all

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<v Speaker 1>this information. And the more I unraveled a mystery, another

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<v Speaker 1>mystery occurred, and another mystery occurred, and it got me

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<v Speaker 1>so intrigued and wondering, you know, what more is it

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<v Speaker 1>to about the giants, about their rituals and their burials,

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<v Speaker 1>and to know that even though the giants were here

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<v Speaker 1>probably about seven five thousand to seven thousand years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>They still left a lot of evidence on these islands

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<v Speaker 1>that is still you can still uncover and explore and

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<v Speaker 1>learn about.

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<v Speaker 7>Was there some kind of an extinction event, like what

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<v Speaker 7>happened like what happened to the giants?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's a good question. So in two thousand and

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<v Speaker 1>two there was a report done by geneticists here on

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<v Speaker 1>the island where they chose only certain people to test.

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<v Speaker 1>And these people had to because a group, it is

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<v Speaker 1>a very our place. They didn't have a large slave presence,

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<v Speaker 1>so there weren't a lot of genetic people with different

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<v Speaker 1>genomes coming in and mixing with the population. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a very closed island in that sense, so the genetics

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<v Speaker 1>of the people are pretty intactoo when they were basically

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<v Speaker 1>here before amergo Vespucci. So they did an analysis of

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<v Speaker 1>people who only had from going back to their great

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<v Speaker 1>great great grandmother. No one could have left the island.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone had to be on the island have all Reuben heritage,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they came up with a pretty good sample

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<v Speaker 1>size of people and they tested their genetics and they

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<v Speaker 1>found that they had an ad mixture of an ancient

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<v Speaker 1>DNA that they could not specifically attach to any one

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<v Speaker 1>group of people, and it was the conclusion of the

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<v Speaker 1>geneticist that this was the basically the genetics of the giants,

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<v Speaker 1>of this archaic race of people that were here before

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<v Speaker 1>more mainland people from Venezuela than eventually came over. And

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<v Speaker 1>so what this means and what I've determined, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's pretty much accurate, is that the giants began

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<v Speaker 1>to die out. There's a berthing chamber not far from

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<v Speaker 1>here of where the giants were giving birth, and you

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<v Speaker 1>can see on the wall the ticks of how many

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<v Speaker 1>births they had, and they didn't have a lot of berths.

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<v Speaker 1>I think because they were giants having babies. I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of complications involved with giants having babies,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were clearly the dominant, elite class of people

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<v Speaker 1>ruling on the island. I think eventually what happened was

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<v Speaker 1>they were dying out and they began to breed with

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<v Speaker 1>the average statuted people on the island who had a

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<v Speaker 1>later period, people who had come from Venezuela, Colombia, the

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<v Speaker 1>northern coastline of South America. And because of that, that

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<v Speaker 1>is why I believe the ancient DNA is still alive

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<v Speaker 1>in the people because it was a matter of survival.

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<v Speaker 1>They rather than die out, they just made it themselves

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<v Speaker 1>out and then became average statue. But you can still

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<v Speaker 1>talk to people on the island who will tell you

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<v Speaker 1>about uncles from a long time ago who were giants.

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<v Speaker 1>There were huge people, and they have big hands and

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<v Speaker 1>big jaws, and everything about them was big. As a

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<v Speaker 1>matter of fact, one of my friends told me a

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<v Speaker 1>story about a great uncle she had who was a boxer.

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<v Speaker 1>He was so big. He was a boxer in South America,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was so powerful he ended up killing someone

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<v Speaker 1>in the ring and they couldn't let him box anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>and she swore he was a giant. And you'll hear

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<v Speaker 1>stories about people from people here who are a real

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<v Speaker 1>old time of Rubens, who tell you the stories about

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<v Speaker 1>how they had this one person in their family who

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<v Speaker 1>was just massive. So maybe there was some genetic recall

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<v Speaker 1>that occurred and the giant came out more predominantly. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, but it's pretty interesting. So I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>what happened to the giants. I think it makes the

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<v Speaker 1>most sense.

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<v Speaker 5>Was there a birthing area shaped like a honeycomb.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm curious, Well, I guess you could say that because

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<v Speaker 1>it's in a cave system. I'm actually looking right at

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<v Speaker 1>the cave system. It's a cave system with many caves.

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<v Speaker 1>Each cave had a specific function. One cave had burials,

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<v Speaker 1>and the burials were very bizarre. There was a giant

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the burial, and then the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the people were like spokes in a wheel coming out.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll also see that type of description of a burial

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<v Speaker 1>from the mounds. I know you have spoken, I believe

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<v Speaker 1>to Gregory Little, and he also has mentioned in some

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<v Speaker 1>of these mounds they found remains of giants and they

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<v Speaker 1>were buried like spokes in a wheel, with one central

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<v Speaker 1>burial that occurs there. Then you have one part of

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<v Speaker 1>the key where they were actually living. You can see

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<v Speaker 1>those oyster shells and conch shells and all extinct fossils

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<v Speaker 1>of shell life that wasn't no longer exist but did

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<v Speaker 1>at the time of the giants. And then you'll see

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of caves with drawings, all sorts of drawings,

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<v Speaker 1>and in those caves are just drawings. And then in

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<v Speaker 1>the birthing chamber it's just the birthing chamber. So you'll

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<v Speaker 1>see there's a drawing of a mother and she, excuse me,

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<v Speaker 1>she has a veil, and she has a baby in

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<v Speaker 1>her stomach, and she there's a cup mark cut out

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<v Speaker 1>of the stone of the limestone of where her belly

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<v Speaker 1>button would be, which and also of her eye, and

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<v Speaker 1>then next to her are all these slashes. And due

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<v Speaker 1>to the analysis of that one specific petroglyph of this

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<v Speaker 1>veiled woman with the baby, I found a report done

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<v Speaker 1>by Harvard in nineteen seventy one who came to these

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<v Speaker 1>caves to look at them. They were actually studying the

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<v Speaker 1>extinct shell life that they had found in the one

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<v Speaker 1>cave that was being habitated by the giants, and they

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<v Speaker 1>recognized this petrock glyph as being something that's found worldwide,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they immediately called it the pregnant mother glyph.

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<v Speaker 1>And after I researched that further, I found that there's

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<v Speaker 1>drawings of this pregnant woman globally, including as far away

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<v Speaker 1>as Japan. So so to me, I think it's one percent

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<v Speaker 1>of burial chamber. It makes sense. It's secluded, it's hard

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<v Speaker 1>to get to. It was a matriarchal society, as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that they were very protective of their

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<v Speaker 1>their births, especially if this is an elite class. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure they had a lot of enemies. So so you

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<v Speaker 1>could say that it was like a honeycomb because it

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<v Speaker 1>is in a cave system, and are all parts of

420
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<v Speaker 1>the cave that you can go around and crawl through.

421
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<v Speaker 6>It's very I know this is random, but is there

422
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<v Speaker 6>any pictures of Pazuzu in that room?

423
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<v Speaker 5>I'm sorry, Like any deities, Like any deities.

424
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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's the closest thing to understanding what the drug.

425
00:25:18.079 --> 00:25:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Most of them are geometric patterns. To be honest, there's

426
00:25:20.960 --> 00:25:24.079
<v Speaker 1>nothing that she is the only specific like you can

427
00:25:24.119 --> 00:25:28.880
<v Speaker 1>tell she's a human or human like and and she's

428
00:25:29.000 --> 00:25:31.079
<v Speaker 1>you could right away you could tell it's a it's

429
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<v Speaker 1>a human like form. But other than that, it's a

430
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<v Speaker 1>lot of geometric patterns. Nothing that you could specifically say

431
00:25:39.960 --> 00:25:44.599
<v Speaker 1>is a figure or something that you can attribute to

432
00:25:44.759 --> 00:25:47.960
<v Speaker 1>another type of drunk. It's kind of geometric patterns which

433
00:25:47.960 --> 00:25:51.160
<v Speaker 1>you've probably seen globally as well. It's kind of that

434
00:25:51.240 --> 00:25:59.599
<v Speaker 1>repetitive geometric patterns of the swatsticker, but the old right

435
00:26:00.319 --> 00:26:04.960
<v Speaker 1>way of the drawing and then a lot of dots,

436
00:26:05.000 --> 00:26:09.480
<v Speaker 1>and you know, things like of that nature, diamond shapes,

437
00:26:09.839 --> 00:26:12.720
<v Speaker 1>wavy lines, things like that type of thing. It's a

438
00:26:13.079 --> 00:26:17.720
<v Speaker 1>a rather complex petroglyphs site. And sadly, since I've been

439
00:26:17.720 --> 00:26:21.079
<v Speaker 1>going there, now a lot of tours go there. I

440
00:26:21.119 --> 00:26:24.240
<v Speaker 1>don't take tours there because it's such a dangerous hike.

441
00:26:24.400 --> 00:26:26.519
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I can't even believe tours go there. I

442
00:26:26.759 --> 00:26:30.240
<v Speaker 1>would not want that liability. But they take tours up there,

443
00:26:30.279 --> 00:26:33.400
<v Speaker 1>and now everyone breathing and everything now has degraded the

444
00:26:33.480 --> 00:26:36.720
<v Speaker 1>quality of the drawings, which is really a shame. And

445
00:26:36.759 --> 00:26:40.440
<v Speaker 1>now someone has begun amateur excavating in the caves I

446
00:26:40.480 --> 00:26:41.799
<v Speaker 1>guess looking for giants.

447
00:26:42.359 --> 00:26:42.559
<v Speaker 4>Uh.

448
00:26:42.599 --> 00:26:45.640
<v Speaker 1>And then there's some like some like voodoo going on

449
00:26:45.839 --> 00:26:49.880
<v Speaker 1>in there, and so it's like it's just very very sad.

450
00:26:50.000 --> 00:26:55.519
<v Speaker 1>So I'm yees, it's yeah, Ruba doesn't protect it. There's

451
00:26:55.519 --> 00:26:59.119
<v Speaker 1>nothing I can do. And so that's that's gonna inevitably

452
00:26:59.160 --> 00:27:01.599
<v Speaker 1>happen to sites that are protected. Sadly.

453
00:27:02.680 --> 00:27:05.079
<v Speaker 4>I have a quick question. Do you know about the

454
00:27:05.480 --> 00:27:09.759
<v Speaker 4>Patagonian giants that were reported by European explorers for like

455
00:27:09.839 --> 00:27:14.680
<v Speaker 4>three hundred years of interactions? Would these giants be in

456
00:27:14.799 --> 00:27:17.279
<v Speaker 4>any way related to them, or is there sort of

457
00:27:17.359 --> 00:27:20.599
<v Speaker 4>a network between these different civilizations.

458
00:27:21.480 --> 00:27:24.720
<v Speaker 1>That's a great question because you know the proximity. We're

459
00:27:24.799 --> 00:27:29.440
<v Speaker 1>right by South America. I always tend to think, like

460
00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:32.240
<v Speaker 1>I think all of the giants might have had some

461
00:27:32.279 --> 00:27:35.640
<v Speaker 1>sort of genetic connection. I mean, they were just so strange.

462
00:27:36.839 --> 00:27:39.440
<v Speaker 1>A lot of them had red hair. The giants here,

463
00:27:39.599 --> 00:27:43.960
<v Speaker 1>the archaeological reports show, were light skin and light hair.

464
00:27:44.160 --> 00:27:49.279
<v Speaker 1>They were not Native American. And that's a pattern. You

465
00:27:49.359 --> 00:27:51.680
<v Speaker 1>find a lot with these giants that they're not their

466
00:27:51.799 --> 00:27:54.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of light skin, light hair. I believe the Patagonian

467
00:27:54.559 --> 00:27:59.839
<v Speaker 1>giants were worth the same, even Darwin. Charles Darwin met

468
00:27:59.839 --> 00:28:03.519
<v Speaker 1>with the Patagonian giants, and that's why people it's so frustrating.

469
00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:06.680
<v Speaker 1>People say, why is there a suppression of the giants

470
00:28:07.319 --> 00:28:10.039
<v Speaker 1>and I you know, and people always say, oh, it's

471
00:28:10.079 --> 00:28:13.400
<v Speaker 1>because of Darwinism, you know Charles. Now everyone's a Charles

472
00:28:13.480 --> 00:28:16.240
<v Speaker 1>Darwin fan trying to protect Charles Darwin. I mean, it

473
00:28:16.240 --> 00:28:20.440
<v Speaker 1>doesn't even make sense because Charles Darwin writes about I've

474
00:28:20.480 --> 00:28:23.519
<v Speaker 1>read his writings. He writes about the Patagonian giants, and

475
00:28:23.559 --> 00:28:27.000
<v Speaker 1>he is amazed that the genetics of the giants and

476
00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:29.400
<v Speaker 1>how it seems to be a whole different race of

477
00:28:29.440 --> 00:28:34.200
<v Speaker 1>people different from homo sapien sapien, and so he's mystified

478
00:28:34.240 --> 00:28:37.799
<v Speaker 1>by it and he accepts it, and that's something that

479
00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:40.119
<v Speaker 1>he was intrigued by. It was one of the most

480
00:28:40.160 --> 00:28:44.200
<v Speaker 1>fascinating parts, he said, of his research with studying the giants.

481
00:28:44.240 --> 00:28:47.519
<v Speaker 1>So it's clearly not anything to do with, you know,

482
00:28:47.640 --> 00:28:51.839
<v Speaker 1>standing for Charles Darwin. But I think for sure there

483
00:28:51.880 --> 00:28:54.319
<v Speaker 1>in my mind there has to be some sort of

484
00:28:54.400 --> 00:28:58.839
<v Speaker 1>genetic connection because they're all contemporaneous to one another. So

485
00:28:59.440 --> 00:29:02.119
<v Speaker 1>to me, I think they were they were connected, but

486
00:29:02.279 --> 00:29:06.559
<v Speaker 1>I don't have any proof, but just a hunch based

487
00:29:06.559 --> 00:29:08.440
<v Speaker 1>off of my knowledge.

488
00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:10.839
<v Speaker 8>I think they were definitely connected. I mean, I'm looking

489
00:29:10.880 --> 00:29:13.640
<v Speaker 8>at you, said, Vespucci came to your island in fourteen

490
00:29:13.759 --> 00:29:18.759
<v Speaker 8>ninety nine, and in my research, I found that these

491
00:29:18.799 --> 00:29:20.680
<v Speaker 8>giants were like pretty much all up and down the

492
00:29:20.720 --> 00:29:24.519
<v Speaker 8>coast there of South America. I've got a list here.

493
00:29:24.559 --> 00:29:26.319
<v Speaker 8>This is from an episode I never put out, so

494
00:29:26.359 --> 00:29:29.240
<v Speaker 8>I just pulled it up. But it's like Pigafetta was

495
00:29:29.240 --> 00:29:32.920
<v Speaker 8>in the fifteen twenties, he recorded a giant Magellan same

496
00:29:32.960 --> 00:29:37.119
<v Speaker 8>time period recorded a giant Sebastian Munster fifteen forty four,

497
00:29:37.680 --> 00:29:42.200
<v Speaker 8>recorded one Thomas Cavendish fifteen eighty seven, Subalt de Wert

498
00:29:42.359 --> 00:29:45.279
<v Speaker 8>fifteen sixty seven. And it just the list just keeps

499
00:29:45.319 --> 00:29:48.400
<v Speaker 8>going on and then and even into the seventeen hundreds.

500
00:29:48.440 --> 00:29:51.880
<v Speaker 8>Even the speaking of Darwin. The people who really really

501
00:29:51.880 --> 00:29:55.640
<v Speaker 8>pushed for Darwin the most, the Royal Society, the British

502
00:29:55.720 --> 00:29:59.640
<v Speaker 8>Rule Society. They even said that, you know, the existence

503
00:29:59.640 --> 00:30:02.119
<v Speaker 8>of giant it is confirmed in like a seventeen sixty

504
00:30:02.160 --> 00:30:06.799
<v Speaker 8>six paper that they published. So it was all on

505
00:30:06.799 --> 00:30:09.039
<v Speaker 8>that coast. There's got to be a connection. But I

506
00:30:09.039 --> 00:30:11.480
<v Speaker 8>think you're definitely in a honeypot there. I think those

507
00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:14.720
<v Speaker 8>islands there is like I don't know, like there's a

508
00:30:14.720 --> 00:30:18.319
<v Speaker 8>book called History and Conquest of Mexico that deals with

509
00:30:18.359 --> 00:30:20.519
<v Speaker 8>your area of the world because they came through there.

510
00:30:20.880 --> 00:30:23.799
<v Speaker 8>I'm sure you know about that, Yes, yes, but what

511
00:30:23.839 --> 00:30:28.960
<v Speaker 8>about other islands nearby? Is there like untapped giant research

512
00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:30.440
<v Speaker 8>to be done?

513
00:30:30.759 --> 00:30:35.799
<v Speaker 1>Yes, And I just started doing that. It's almost overwhelming.

514
00:30:35.920 --> 00:30:39.400
<v Speaker 1>So I just came across the paper last week, I

515
00:30:39.400 --> 00:30:40.680
<v Speaker 1>think it was last week or a week and a

516
00:30:40.720 --> 00:30:48.279
<v Speaker 1>half ago, of these different figures found all across the Caribbean,

517
00:30:48.880 --> 00:30:54.200
<v Speaker 1>and the most fascinating figurines are from Martinique and Saint Lucia.

518
00:30:54.279 --> 00:30:58.839
<v Speaker 1>We also have very strange figurines here, I mean very strange,

519
00:30:59.480 --> 00:31:03.920
<v Speaker 1>with three fingers and strange eyes. They don't appear to

520
00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:08.039
<v Speaker 1>be human, but they're human like they have like they're

521
00:31:08.240 --> 00:31:14.720
<v Speaker 1>they're in a kneeling position. Yes, it's right, exactly. That's

522
00:31:14.839 --> 00:31:17.599
<v Speaker 1>when I saw those those mummies. It's a and you

523
00:31:17.640 --> 00:31:20.319
<v Speaker 1>know Peru is not far from here. I mean when

524
00:31:20.359 --> 00:31:22.319
<v Speaker 1>I saw those mummies, I was like, my god, the

525
00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:25.400
<v Speaker 1>statues here all have three fingers. I mean it just

526
00:31:25.599 --> 00:31:28.680
<v Speaker 1>was like, now the story is getting even crazy or crazier,

527
00:31:28.839 --> 00:31:31.079
<v Speaker 1>like it just doesn't stop at giants. You know, there

528
00:31:31.079 --> 00:31:35.440
<v Speaker 1>were it was a genetic soup here and yeah, so

529
00:31:35.880 --> 00:31:39.000
<v Speaker 1>now I came across all these pictures in the archaeological

530
00:31:39.039 --> 00:31:42.519
<v Speaker 1>record of what I've been to Easter Island that they

531
00:31:42.559 --> 00:31:46.279
<v Speaker 1>look like moi, I mean elongated skulls. They have their

532
00:31:46.319 --> 00:31:48.680
<v Speaker 1>hands in the same position, which is, you know, on

533
00:31:48.759 --> 00:31:53.559
<v Speaker 1>their bellies. It's interesting. One of the figurines almost looks Olmec,

534
00:31:53.759 --> 00:31:58.920
<v Speaker 1>which is very strange, and another has a hump on

535
00:31:59.000 --> 00:32:04.559
<v Speaker 1>its back, which is quite interesting because the prime the

536
00:32:04.599 --> 00:32:10.519
<v Speaker 1>most prominent burial in one of the largest Caribbean ancient cemeteries,

537
00:32:10.559 --> 00:32:12.960
<v Speaker 1>which is here in Aruba. It's called Melmuk. It's the

538
00:32:12.960 --> 00:32:16.599
<v Speaker 1>Malmuk Cemetery. It's a protected area, thank goodness. But it's

539
00:32:17.599 --> 00:32:20.599
<v Speaker 1>filled with shell middens with ancient bodies in them that

540
00:32:20.720 --> 00:32:24.559
<v Speaker 1>during the pandemic that were just leveled and big mansions

541
00:32:24.599 --> 00:32:28.880
<v Speaker 1>built there. So sadly no one is maintaining these sites

542
00:32:28.960 --> 00:32:35.559
<v Speaker 1>and they're slowly being to destroyed. But the central burial

543
00:32:35.720 --> 00:32:39.000
<v Speaker 1>is a female and she's also considered the oldest one

544
00:32:40.039 --> 00:32:44.240
<v Speaker 1>in the entire group of all the burials are only

545
00:32:44.279 --> 00:32:47.440
<v Speaker 1>on Earth seventy two burials, but stopped there because they just,

546
00:32:48.039 --> 00:32:51.079
<v Speaker 1>I guess ran out of funding or time or But

547
00:32:51.160 --> 00:32:54.799
<v Speaker 1>there is hundreds of more bodies buried in that cemetery,

548
00:32:55.000 --> 00:32:57.799
<v Speaker 1>and she was the most complex burial, so they determined

549
00:32:57.799 --> 00:33:01.599
<v Speaker 1>her to be the leader of the entire tribe. And

550
00:33:01.799 --> 00:33:06.000
<v Speaker 1>she also had a hump back. She had a hump

551
00:33:06.039 --> 00:33:09.599
<v Speaker 1>on her back, and she was given the most elite

552
00:33:09.599 --> 00:33:14.200
<v Speaker 1>burial with grave gifts and huge shells of sea turtles

553
00:33:14.319 --> 00:33:18.039
<v Speaker 1>on her and she was elevated on a platform in

554
00:33:18.079 --> 00:33:22.519
<v Speaker 1>the center of the entire cemetery, and so it was

555
00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:25.559
<v Speaker 1>interesting to see this figurine in Saint Lucia that also

556
00:33:25.640 --> 00:33:29.400
<v Speaker 1>had this hump back. So I wonder, now, you know,

557
00:33:29.920 --> 00:33:33.119
<v Speaker 1>do the other islands also hold these secrets of the giants.

558
00:33:33.160 --> 00:33:37.079
<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine them just staying here in Aruba, now

559
00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:40.039
<v Speaker 1>in Bonaire end in Currousel, but I do know. And

560
00:33:40.119 --> 00:33:44.640
<v Speaker 1>the archaeologist archaeologists have stated that there was a breakaway

561
00:33:44.680 --> 00:33:48.000
<v Speaker 1>civilization of the giants in two and they moved to

562
00:33:48.079 --> 00:33:52.200
<v Speaker 1>two locations. The one location was at the caves in Cuba,

563
00:33:52.920 --> 00:33:55.279
<v Speaker 1>which I love to go to. They found the same

564
00:33:55.319 --> 00:33:59.599
<v Speaker 1>type of burials with the central burial and then the

565
00:33:59.640 --> 00:34:03.319
<v Speaker 1>other people like spokes in the wheel. Also, the giants

566
00:34:03.319 --> 00:34:07.839
<v Speaker 1>were obsessed with Isosceles triangles, I mean crazy obsessed on

567
00:34:07.880 --> 00:34:11.159
<v Speaker 1>their tools. Today you could still see they would etch

568
00:34:11.239 --> 00:34:14.719
<v Speaker 1>in Isosceles triangles. Their burials were in the forms of

569
00:34:14.719 --> 00:34:18.440
<v Speaker 1>Isosceles triangles. So when they went to these caves in Cuba,

570
00:34:18.480 --> 00:34:21.360
<v Speaker 1>they saw the same thing, these burials in the shape

571
00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:26.800
<v Speaker 1>of Isosceles triangles. And they also determined that the skeletons

572
00:34:26.840 --> 00:34:29.920
<v Speaker 1>were the same with the elongated skull and the giant bones,

573
00:34:30.400 --> 00:34:33.760
<v Speaker 1>and they found the same situation in Colombia, a small,

574
00:34:33.840 --> 00:34:37.079
<v Speaker 1>small area of Columbia. So I think in the archaeologists

575
00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:41.320
<v Speaker 1>believed these were two breakaway civilizations that started here and

576
00:34:41.360 --> 00:34:43.159
<v Speaker 1>down here in a roof of bone, air cures out

577
00:34:43.239 --> 00:34:46.599
<v Speaker 1>and then branched off to these other locations. But there's

578
00:34:46.639 --> 00:34:51.000
<v Speaker 1>so much work to be done in these other Caribbean islands,

579
00:34:51.039 --> 00:34:53.880
<v Speaker 1>and sadly, you know, there's not a lot of archaeology

580
00:34:53.960 --> 00:34:56.920
<v Speaker 1>being done. There's a lot of the I mean, it's

581
00:34:57.000 --> 00:35:01.280
<v Speaker 1>taken me years to amass all the archaeological reports, field notes,

582
00:35:01.599 --> 00:35:05.719
<v Speaker 1>photographs of the giants, a lot of money, a lot

583
00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:08.400
<v Speaker 1>of time I've had to go with. Interestingly, a lot

584
00:35:08.440 --> 00:35:12.559
<v Speaker 1>of these archaeological reports are in medical libraries at universities,

585
00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:15.719
<v Speaker 1>so which is quite interesting to me. I mean, why

586
00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:18.400
<v Speaker 1>if these giants aren't real, why do you have books

587
00:35:18.719 --> 00:35:21.519
<v Speaker 1>archaeological reports on the giants in a medical life, right,

588
00:35:21.599 --> 00:35:25.480
<v Speaker 1>I've met of medical universities. It doesn't make sense.

589
00:35:25.559 --> 00:35:27.199
<v Speaker 4>So throwing people off the trail.

590
00:35:28.159 --> 00:35:30.639
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, well, I think I think they want to

591
00:35:30.760 --> 00:35:34.039
<v Speaker 1>educate people about the giants personally. I think they want

592
00:35:34.079 --> 00:35:36.800
<v Speaker 1>them to know, yeah, look, there were giants too, you know.

593
00:35:36.920 --> 00:35:41.000
<v Speaker 1>But the fact is like, I mean, why they're so

594
00:35:41.159 --> 00:35:43.719
<v Speaker 1>hard to get these reports. I mean they're so hard

595
00:35:43.800 --> 00:35:47.119
<v Speaker 1>and it's cost me money or in an amount of time.

596
00:35:47.599 --> 00:35:51.679
<v Speaker 1>I think that now I'm way over one hundred archaeological reports.

597
00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:56.039
<v Speaker 1>So so yeah, it's it's it's interesting that it's almost

598
00:35:56.079 --> 00:35:59.199
<v Speaker 1>been Yeah, yeah, to throw people off the trail, for sure.

599
00:35:59.199 --> 00:36:01.000
<v Speaker 1>But also I think to hide these things in plain

600
00:36:01.119 --> 00:36:03.559
<v Speaker 1>sight as well. So I would love to do more

601
00:36:03.639 --> 00:36:06.480
<v Speaker 1>research on the other islands and looking at their artifacts

602
00:36:06.519 --> 00:36:09.679
<v Speaker 1>as the first step, but each island has such a

603
00:36:09.760 --> 00:36:14.800
<v Speaker 1>complicated story, you know, with archaeology and how much you

604
00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:19.800
<v Speaker 1>can research, and so then I'll my main focus will

605
00:36:19.800 --> 00:36:22.360
<v Speaker 1>always be these three islands, and then I will always

606
00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:25.320
<v Speaker 1>try to find more information on the other islands too

607
00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:28.400
<v Speaker 1>as I can. But it's such a big job, and

608
00:36:28.440 --> 00:36:30.800
<v Speaker 1>I believe I'm the only person in the Caribbean studying

609
00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:36.400
<v Speaker 1>the giants, but through my research, I'm learning more about

610
00:36:36.440 --> 00:36:40.039
<v Speaker 1>the other giants that or potential giants that existed in

611
00:36:40.079 --> 00:36:41.039
<v Speaker 1>the islands as well.

612
00:36:42.159 --> 00:36:43.840
<v Speaker 3>I have a question for you.

613
00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:48.679
<v Speaker 7>So you do the tours, you live there, obviously you've

614
00:36:48.679 --> 00:36:52.320
<v Speaker 7>been studying it for a very long time, but can

615
00:36:52.400 --> 00:36:56.880
<v Speaker 7>you explain, like when you go to these sites. Is

616
00:36:56.880 --> 00:37:00.440
<v Speaker 7>there a feeling like do you get any vibe? Like

617
00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:04.880
<v Speaker 7>is it a dark feeling? Is it like a astounding

618
00:37:05.639 --> 00:37:08.639
<v Speaker 7>kind of like, oh my god, these things were here

619
00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:12.320
<v Speaker 7>and like I'm marking amongst like the remains of you

620
00:37:12.360 --> 00:37:14.119
<v Speaker 7>know what, what does it feel like?

621
00:37:14.119 --> 00:37:15.519
<v Speaker 3>Like, what's what's that like?

622
00:37:16.760 --> 00:37:19.360
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, I have to tell you one of the

623
00:37:19.400 --> 00:37:22.199
<v Speaker 1>sites that for sure is haunted. I mean, you know,

624
00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:25.840
<v Speaker 1>the land is haunted. It's funny because now they're building

625
00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:30.480
<v Speaker 1>a house in this one area that is I've had

626
00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:35.840
<v Speaker 1>the craziest, spookiest like wig out like crazy, like I

627
00:37:35.880 --> 00:37:38.440
<v Speaker 1>got to get out of here experience. I mean, really scary.

628
00:37:38.480 --> 00:37:41.679
<v Speaker 1>You get really nervous, especially if you're by yourself. You know,

629
00:37:41.760 --> 00:37:43.840
<v Speaker 1>you could get in your head. But it's a very

630
00:37:43.880 --> 00:37:47.159
<v Speaker 1>strange feeling. And there's a couple of places generally associated

631
00:37:47.159 --> 00:37:51.000
<v Speaker 1>with the caves. And there's this one area. I mean

632
00:37:51.239 --> 00:37:53.599
<v Speaker 1>I was at the beach and there are these little

633
00:37:53.840 --> 00:37:56.039
<v Speaker 1>beach huts set up, and I was the only person

634
00:37:56.119 --> 00:37:59.320
<v Speaker 1>at the beach and I'm sitting there just relaxing. I'm

635
00:37:59.320 --> 00:38:01.519
<v Speaker 1>not even listening to music, just looking at the water,

636
00:38:01.639 --> 00:38:03.559
<v Speaker 1>and you know, and and all of a sudden I

637
00:38:03.599 --> 00:38:06.599
<v Speaker 1>heard like a knocking on the side of the wall

638
00:38:06.760 --> 00:38:11.119
<v Speaker 1>of the beach hut, and I was like, so I

639
00:38:11.119 --> 00:38:13.840
<v Speaker 1>thought it was the wind, and then there was one

640
00:38:13.880 --> 00:38:15.719
<v Speaker 1>on the other side, and then one on the other side.

641
00:38:15.760 --> 00:38:19.079
<v Speaker 1>So I jump up. I'm running around and looking looking,

642
00:38:19.079 --> 00:38:21.119
<v Speaker 1>but there's no one there. I mean, I'm in the

643
00:38:21.119 --> 00:38:24.760
<v Speaker 1>middle of nowhere. And then I would sit down, and

644
00:38:24.760 --> 00:38:27.480
<v Speaker 1>then knocking would happen again, and then I'd get up

645
00:38:27.480 --> 00:38:29.519
<v Speaker 1>and run around, and then it would go away, and

646
00:38:29.559 --> 00:38:31.679
<v Speaker 1>then it was knocking on all sides. I was like, Oh,

647
00:38:31.719 --> 00:38:34.880
<v Speaker 1>my gosh, this place is haunted. And since then I

648
00:38:34.960 --> 00:38:38.119
<v Speaker 1>have met many families in a Ruba, actually, and I

649
00:38:38.199 --> 00:38:41.320
<v Speaker 1>interviewed a couple of them and recorded it who told

650
00:38:41.400 --> 00:38:43.880
<v Speaker 1>me about that exact site and that they had they

651
00:38:43.960 --> 00:38:49.440
<v Speaker 1>saw very tall ghosts, very tall shadows. They didn't even

652
00:38:49.480 --> 00:38:52.360
<v Speaker 1>know anything about the giants, and they were just telling

653
00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:54.920
<v Speaker 1>me the ghost encounters that they had had and that

654
00:38:54.960 --> 00:38:57.519
<v Speaker 1>they were the first thing say, they were so tall,

655
00:38:58.079 --> 00:38:59.960
<v Speaker 1>And I said, do you know this island was called

656
00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:02.320
<v Speaker 1>the Islands of the Giants? You know that it was

657
00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:05.599
<v Speaker 1>probably the ghost of the giants. And not far from

658
00:39:05.599 --> 00:39:07.760
<v Speaker 1>there as a house that when I was moving here,

659
00:39:07.800 --> 00:39:09.840
<v Speaker 1>I thought, oh, it's such a beautiful home. I would

660
00:39:09.840 --> 00:39:14.079
<v Speaker 1>love to rent it. And it came up when I

661
00:39:14.119 --> 00:39:15.760
<v Speaker 1>was still living in New York. It came up for

662
00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:18.239
<v Speaker 1>a rental and then it like it was rented right

663
00:39:18.239 --> 00:39:20.239
<v Speaker 1>away because it was so cheap, which was another I

664
00:39:20.320 --> 00:39:22.840
<v Speaker 1>was a wiceest house, so cheap, But then it went

665
00:39:22.920 --> 00:39:25.039
<v Speaker 1>right back on the market, and then it went off

666
00:39:25.280 --> 00:39:27.880
<v Speaker 1>the market. And so once I got here, I realized

667
00:39:27.880 --> 00:39:31.800
<v Speaker 1>the problem was that the house is haunted, that that

668
00:39:31.960 --> 00:39:36.280
<v Speaker 1>people were hearing babies crying and knocking and things were falling,

669
00:39:36.519 --> 00:39:39.719
<v Speaker 1>and so they could never keep people in the house.

670
00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:42.679
<v Speaker 1>And now it's totally abandoned, and next to it now

671
00:39:42.679 --> 00:39:44.760
<v Speaker 1>they're starting to build a new house. And I said

672
00:39:44.800 --> 00:39:47.679
<v Speaker 1>to my friend that that house isn't going to make

673
00:39:47.719 --> 00:39:50.599
<v Speaker 1>it either, because it's the land that's haunted. It's not

674
00:39:50.679 --> 00:39:54.039
<v Speaker 1>the house, it's the actual land. So there's that place.

675
00:39:54.199 --> 00:39:57.360
<v Speaker 1>And then yeah, there's another cave that in that cave

676
00:39:57.480 --> 00:39:59.920
<v Speaker 1>actually specifically also it's a height you have to climb

677
00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:02.000
<v Speaker 1>up into the cave. All these caves are at the

678
00:40:02.000 --> 00:40:06.320
<v Speaker 1>top of giant, giant limestone bluffs and you have to

679
00:40:06.519 --> 00:40:10.719
<v Speaker 1>climb up them. It's very difficult and very dangerous. And

680
00:40:10.840 --> 00:40:14.880
<v Speaker 1>as you're walking to go to begin your ascent, you

681
00:40:15.719 --> 00:40:19.320
<v Speaker 1>feel someone behind you all the time. And the crazy

682
00:40:19.360 --> 00:40:22.519
<v Speaker 1>part is I was meeting someone to start the hike

683
00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:24.960
<v Speaker 1>and they were late, so I figured, well, I'll just

684
00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:27.360
<v Speaker 1>go to the base of the cave and then just

685
00:40:27.400 --> 00:40:29.760
<v Speaker 1>wait and then we'll walk together because it's dangerous and

686
00:40:29.800 --> 00:40:32.119
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to do it alone in case one

687
00:40:32.159 --> 00:40:34.679
<v Speaker 1>of us falls or I fall, and then I'll be

688
00:40:34.679 --> 00:40:38.320
<v Speaker 1>stuck up there. So as I was walking, I kept

689
00:40:38.400 --> 00:40:41.800
<v Speaker 1>sitting looking behind me, thanking, someone's behind me, Someone's behind me.

690
00:40:41.840 --> 00:40:44.960
<v Speaker 1>And then my friend came and he said, and I said,

691
00:40:44.960 --> 00:40:47.039
<v Speaker 1>did you feel like where? He said? It took me

692
00:40:47.039 --> 00:40:49.239
<v Speaker 1>so long because I kept going back and thinking like

693
00:40:49.280 --> 00:40:52.800
<v Speaker 1>someone was hiding behind me. And then a friend actually

694
00:40:52.840 --> 00:40:55.320
<v Speaker 1>came from the Netherlands recently and he said, have you

695
00:40:55.400 --> 00:40:58.800
<v Speaker 1>been to that cave? It's really creepy. Always feels like

696
00:40:59.119 --> 00:41:02.840
<v Speaker 1>people watching you. And so, yeah, that cave is really

697
00:41:02.840 --> 00:41:06.400
<v Speaker 1>weird because in that cave was found three burials of

698
00:41:06.519 --> 00:41:10.760
<v Speaker 1>three females and two monkeys, and the monkeys, which are

699
00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:15.599
<v Speaker 1>not indigenous to Aruba, were given elite burials, which is

700
00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:20.480
<v Speaker 1>very strange, and by elpe burial basically what would happen.

701
00:41:20.519 --> 00:41:23.719
<v Speaker 1>These people were obsessed with death. This was a massive

702
00:41:23.840 --> 00:41:27.239
<v Speaker 1>culture of death because the cemetery where they eventually would

703
00:41:27.239 --> 00:41:30.039
<v Speaker 1>bury all the bodies is most of the year covered

704
00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:33.760
<v Speaker 1>with water, so it's only about a couple of maybe

705
00:41:33.880 --> 00:41:36.840
<v Speaker 1>five weeks of the year that you can bury bodies

706
00:41:36.840 --> 00:41:40.760
<v Speaker 1>in that cemetery. They so if you died in December,

707
00:41:40.920 --> 00:41:43.599
<v Speaker 1>which is rainy season, I mean, what are you going

708
00:41:43.679 --> 00:41:46.760
<v Speaker 1>to do? You're not going in that graveyard. So they would,

709
00:41:47.119 --> 00:41:51.480
<v Speaker 1>I believe, And now studying cultures that are similar in

710
00:41:51.559 --> 00:41:57.559
<v Speaker 1>proximity and culture to the ritual to the giants, I

711
00:41:57.639 --> 00:42:01.519
<v Speaker 1>believe they kept the bodies out and let them be

712
00:42:01.559 --> 00:42:04.760
<v Speaker 1>eaten by you know, animals such as like the PARSI

713
00:42:04.960 --> 00:42:07.880
<v Speaker 1>do was there a tower of death when they put

714
00:42:07.880 --> 00:42:10.280
<v Speaker 1>the bodies at the top and with the vultures in India,

715
00:42:10.320 --> 00:42:13.760
<v Speaker 1>they let them eat the bodies. I think that's what happened,

716
00:42:14.039 --> 00:42:17.880
<v Speaker 1>because after the body became skeletal, they would take were

717
00:42:18.039 --> 00:42:21.960
<v Speaker 1>this island is filled with manganese and they would take

718
00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:25.320
<v Speaker 1>the locally sourced manganese and make it into a paste

719
00:42:25.559 --> 00:42:29.400
<v Speaker 1>and cover all the elongated part of the skull with

720
00:42:29.559 --> 00:42:35.480
<v Speaker 1>this okra color and the monkeys also had this okra

721
00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:38.199
<v Speaker 1>on their skulls. It was so crazy. They were so

722
00:42:38.320 --> 00:42:41.800
<v Speaker 1>these monkeys were giving like these elite barrows with these

723
00:42:41.840 --> 00:42:44.480
<v Speaker 1>three women. One was like an older woman, like a

724
00:42:44.519 --> 00:42:48.559
<v Speaker 1>mother maybe, and then the two were younger females. And

725
00:42:48.679 --> 00:42:51.840
<v Speaker 1>it's believed because it's a matriarchal society, and if they

726
00:42:51.840 --> 00:42:55.519
<v Speaker 1>were a shaman, for example, they probably couldn't be around men,

727
00:42:56.159 --> 00:43:00.239
<v Speaker 1>and perhaps they were training the monkeys to assist them.

728
00:43:00.679 --> 00:43:03.400
<v Speaker 1>I've been to India and if you go to Kudurajo

729
00:43:03.679 --> 00:43:06.400
<v Speaker 1>on the temples in India, you will see the devadasis,

730
00:43:06.519 --> 00:43:09.440
<v Speaker 1>the Deva dassis where the holy women. They were women

731
00:43:09.519 --> 00:43:13.199
<v Speaker 1>that only the priests could interact with. They couldn't be

732
00:43:13.239 --> 00:43:17.719
<v Speaker 1>around men. They had to be chased, chase chaste, and

733
00:43:18.000 --> 00:43:21.320
<v Speaker 1>they the only thing that could assist them were these

734
00:43:21.559 --> 00:43:24.599
<v Speaker 1>trained monkeys. And you'll see on the reliefs on these

735
00:43:24.639 --> 00:43:28.039
<v Speaker 1>temples the women are getting like the ready to do

736
00:43:28.079 --> 00:43:30.559
<v Speaker 1>a dance or ritual dance, but they're putting on their

737
00:43:30.599 --> 00:43:33.760
<v Speaker 1>makeup and the monkey will be holding like a palette

738
00:43:33.800 --> 00:43:37.360
<v Speaker 1>of makeup or a makeup brush, or helping them put

739
00:43:37.400 --> 00:43:41.880
<v Speaker 1>bells on their ankles. So I immediately and in ancient Egypt.

740
00:43:41.880 --> 00:43:45.400
<v Speaker 1>It's the same. Also also in Peru, monkeys were used

741
00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:49.519
<v Speaker 1>for the females to help them assist in their female

742
00:43:49.639 --> 00:43:52.199
<v Speaker 1>duties because they couldn't really be seen by anyone else

743
00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:55.320
<v Speaker 1>because there was everyone's so afraid someone would take their power,

744
00:43:55.840 --> 00:43:58.280
<v Speaker 1>and so the monkey was really became a part of

745
00:43:58.360 --> 00:44:03.000
<v Speaker 1>their family. There were there's actually another burial there also,

746
00:44:03.079 --> 00:44:06.639
<v Speaker 1>so it could be there are three monkeys there, there

747
00:44:06.639 --> 00:44:09.880
<v Speaker 1>were only female. They all are filled with okra. The

748
00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:12.519
<v Speaker 1>entire opening of the cave is filled with opra. And

749
00:44:12.519 --> 00:44:15.559
<v Speaker 1>I have pictures of this on my Instagram, on my Facebook,

750
00:44:16.280 --> 00:44:19.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I posted it on X and

751
00:44:20.079 --> 00:44:23.320
<v Speaker 1>you'll see the entire front of the cave it's just red,

752
00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:27.840
<v Speaker 1>this red okra. It's also a summer solstice marker. On

753
00:44:27.960 --> 00:44:30.920
<v Speaker 1>the summer solstice morning, the sun will come up and

754
00:44:31.079 --> 00:44:35.039
<v Speaker 1>shine of its light right on the main grave, the

755
00:44:35.079 --> 00:44:38.440
<v Speaker 1>main burial of the central female. And it was there

756
00:44:38.440 --> 00:44:43.039
<v Speaker 1>where she was with a monkey as well. So that's

757
00:44:43.119 --> 00:44:47.199
<v Speaker 1>another eerie place. And then we've also been photos when

758
00:44:47.239 --> 00:44:49.920
<v Speaker 1>I've gotten home and looked at my phots, strange lights,

759
00:44:50.559 --> 00:44:56.159
<v Speaker 1>strange orbs, orbs that look like bar codes, orbs that

760
00:44:56.400 --> 00:45:00.360
<v Speaker 1>like are rainbow orbs, but in a circle. Very strange.

761
00:45:00.400 --> 00:45:02.920
<v Speaker 1>I've never experienced that, and I've been to very strange places,

762
00:45:02.920 --> 00:45:06.519
<v Speaker 1>for example, like the megalithic chambers of New York and

763
00:45:06.639 --> 00:45:10.360
<v Speaker 1>New England, which have very strange, strange things going on

764
00:45:10.440 --> 00:45:13.079
<v Speaker 1>in there. I mean, I've had all my equipment during

765
00:45:13.159 --> 00:45:17.639
<v Speaker 1>their batteries drain, my phone, dream, my watch stop. It's

766
00:45:17.679 --> 00:45:20.840
<v Speaker 1>just very strange things. But the strangest stuff I've had

767
00:45:20.920 --> 00:45:22.679
<v Speaker 1>happen is here in Aruba.

768
00:45:23.679 --> 00:45:27.519
<v Speaker 8>That's what Frince Zimmerman talks about with the paranormal activity

769
00:45:27.519 --> 00:45:28.599
<v Speaker 8>connected to mounds.

770
00:45:29.760 --> 00:45:33.000
<v Speaker 1>What about these caves though, you talked about these caves

771
00:45:33.039 --> 00:45:33.480
<v Speaker 1>in Cuba.

772
00:45:33.559 --> 00:45:36.840
<v Speaker 8>That's very interesting. I've heard there's tunnels from the caves

773
00:45:36.840 --> 00:45:39.760
<v Speaker 8>in Cuba to Florida. Do you think you guys have

774
00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:41.440
<v Speaker 8>those down there in Aruba?

775
00:45:41.519 --> 00:45:44.960
<v Speaker 1>The tunnels to the very funny you say that, yes,

776
00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:47.280
<v Speaker 1>as a matter of fact. Some of another creepy, weird story.

777
00:45:47.679 --> 00:45:51.000
<v Speaker 1>So there is in the National Park there's a cave

778
00:45:51.039 --> 00:45:52.800
<v Speaker 1>that I've been dying to go to, but it's a

779
00:45:52.840 --> 00:45:56.239
<v Speaker 1>privately owned cave. So anyone who owned property was in

780
00:45:56.320 --> 00:45:58.679
<v Speaker 1>the National Park before it became a national park, with

781
00:45:58.840 --> 00:46:02.079
<v Speaker 1>grandfathered inn so they got to keep their land, and

782
00:46:02.199 --> 00:46:04.840
<v Speaker 1>so a lot of people eventually ended up just selling

783
00:46:04.880 --> 00:46:08.480
<v Speaker 1>it to the government because it's such a very difficult

784
00:46:08.519 --> 00:46:11.960
<v Speaker 1>place to try to function. It's very remote, the dirt road,

785
00:46:12.639 --> 00:46:17.000
<v Speaker 1>no water, no service, is nothing. So so eventually, but

786
00:46:17.119 --> 00:46:21.199
<v Speaker 1>this cave still remains in private hands and it is closed.

787
00:46:22.039 --> 00:46:25.639
<v Speaker 1>And this is called This cave incidentally is called the

788
00:46:25.639 --> 00:46:30.559
<v Speaker 1>Tunnel of Love. And the story and it's in the newspapers.

789
00:46:30.559 --> 00:46:32.239
<v Speaker 1>You can look it up. You have to do a

790
00:46:32.239 --> 00:46:35.119
<v Speaker 1>lot of digging. I had the article, but I'll try

791
00:46:35.159 --> 00:46:37.960
<v Speaker 1>to find it and post it. This cave was very

792
00:46:38.000 --> 00:46:42.480
<v Speaker 1>strange because an entire boy Scout group went with a

793
00:46:42.760 --> 00:46:46.400
<v Speaker 1>I believe was a Dutch researcher Aruba Bonarakure style part

794
00:46:46.400 --> 00:46:48.920
<v Speaker 1>of the Kingdom of the Netherlands. So there's a lot

795
00:46:48.960 --> 00:46:52.519
<v Speaker 1>of the history is connected to the Dutch in terms

796
00:46:52.559 --> 00:46:56.440
<v Speaker 1>of their investigations. And so they took a boy Scout

797
00:46:56.440 --> 00:47:00.400
<v Speaker 1>group to the Tunnel of Love, which is called blue

798
00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:03.480
<v Speaker 1>it's like the ancient name, but then they called the

799
00:47:03.480 --> 00:47:06.679
<v Speaker 1>tunnel look. So anyway, they parked outside, they were in

800
00:47:06.760 --> 00:47:08.960
<v Speaker 1>these school buses, and they all went in the cave

801
00:47:09.039 --> 00:47:12.599
<v Speaker 1>and they never came out again. And they have in

802
00:47:12.639 --> 00:47:15.679
<v Speaker 1>the in the report in the newspaper, just the school

803
00:47:15.679 --> 00:47:19.079
<v Speaker 1>buses still lined up, and no one came out of

804
00:47:19.119 --> 00:47:22.880
<v Speaker 1>the caves ever, and they never found them. They even

805
00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:23.639
<v Speaker 1>had stre.

806
00:47:24.519 --> 00:47:30.159
<v Speaker 3>Come on what yes, I have.

807
00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:32.519
<v Speaker 1>To look up the article. It was in the local newspaper.

808
00:47:33.119 --> 00:47:36.000
<v Speaker 3>Disappeared trace.

809
00:47:36.519 --> 00:47:40.320
<v Speaker 1>The creepiest part is seeing just the school buses parked outside.

810
00:47:40.519 --> 00:47:42.840
<v Speaker 3>Hell yeah, why strange.

811
00:47:43.199 --> 00:47:47.079
<v Speaker 1>So that cave has been closed ever since. So it

812
00:47:47.199 --> 00:47:50.960
<v Speaker 1>is rumor that that cave goes all the way to Venezuela,

813
00:47:51.079 --> 00:47:53.599
<v Speaker 1>that you can actually walk in that cave. Now, I

814
00:47:53.679 --> 00:47:56.079
<v Speaker 1>told this story on a podcast and I used to

815
00:47:56.159 --> 00:47:58.360
<v Speaker 1>date the head of my ex boy here is the

816
00:47:58.360 --> 00:48:01.320
<v Speaker 1>head of archaeology here in Aruba. So just so you know,

817
00:48:01.440 --> 00:48:03.599
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the stuff I tell you, he's told

818
00:48:03.719 --> 00:48:06.760
<v Speaker 1>me but doesn't want to tell it himself because he's

819
00:48:06.800 --> 00:48:11.679
<v Speaker 1>an archaeologist, so he doesn't want to taint his halo,

820
00:48:12.280 --> 00:48:18.920
<v Speaker 1>so he put funnel information to me. And so now

821
00:48:19.400 --> 00:48:21.800
<v Speaker 1>it's so crazy. So now he's telling us So he

822
00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:23.880
<v Speaker 1>was on a punt. Now he's starting to do podcasts,

823
00:48:23.880 --> 00:48:27.280
<v Speaker 1>but he does h'm locally okay, that's nice, But now

824
00:48:27.320 --> 00:48:30.480
<v Speaker 1>he's using my information and acting like it's you know.

825
00:48:30.840 --> 00:48:35.199
<v Speaker 1>So now he's telling people that that cave did go

826
00:48:35.239 --> 00:48:38.400
<v Speaker 1>to Venezuela. So just recently he admitted that that cave

827
00:48:38.440 --> 00:48:42.519
<v Speaker 1>went to Venezuela after everyone saying, no, that's a story,

828
00:48:42.559 --> 00:48:44.639
<v Speaker 1>it's a myth. And then people started saying, well, what

829
00:48:44.639 --> 00:48:46.760
<v Speaker 1>about the boy Scouts? Where did they go? What happened

830
00:48:46.800 --> 00:48:49.320
<v Speaker 1>to the boy Scouts? I mean they didn't disappear. It

831
00:48:49.360 --> 00:48:52.239
<v Speaker 1>could also be a portal. I mean, who knows, you know, I.

832
00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:56.320
<v Speaker 7>Means, all right, that's another question I was going to

833
00:48:56.440 --> 00:48:59.679
<v Speaker 7>ask you, Actually, you know it could be portal. But

834
00:48:59.840 --> 00:49:03.119
<v Speaker 7>do you think that there are pockets of these let's

835
00:49:03.199 --> 00:49:06.239
<v Speaker 7>just say, survivors that went underground?

836
00:49:07.119 --> 00:49:12.039
<v Speaker 1>Do you think that too? Because okay, this is another

837
00:49:12.119 --> 00:49:15.599
<v Speaker 1>crazy story, so an altar. I swear, I swear you

838
00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:17.800
<v Speaker 1>could look it up. This is in the new This

839
00:49:17.880 --> 00:49:21.199
<v Speaker 1>one's in the news. This one was on television here

840
00:49:21.239 --> 00:49:25.159
<v Speaker 1>on the news. So there's a guy here who was

841
00:49:25.239 --> 00:49:28.360
<v Speaker 1>a firefighter and he wanted to be in the Guinness

842
00:49:28.400 --> 00:49:31.800
<v Speaker 1>Book of World Records. So right before the pandemic, I believe,

843
00:49:31.880 --> 00:49:34.800
<v Speaker 1>and even I think, going into the pandemic, he went

844
00:49:34.960 --> 00:49:38.039
<v Speaker 1>and lived in a cave. So he lived in this

845
00:49:38.159 --> 00:49:42.280
<v Speaker 1>cave for one hundred days. And this cave is very complex,

846
00:49:42.320 --> 00:49:45.639
<v Speaker 1>another complex with all these different rooms and stuff. But

847
00:49:45.719 --> 00:49:48.400
<v Speaker 1>he was in one of the primary rooms because there

848
00:49:48.440 --> 00:49:50.760
<v Speaker 1>was a hole so he could get oxygen. But the

849
00:49:50.760 --> 00:49:54.039
<v Speaker 1>rest of it you would probably you know, lose oxygen

850
00:49:54.159 --> 00:49:58.880
<v Speaker 1>very quickly. So at night he was obviously sleeping in

851
00:49:58.920 --> 00:50:01.440
<v Speaker 1>the cave and there were people people posted outside to

852
00:50:01.639 --> 00:50:04.800
<v Speaker 1>like make sure he wasn't cheating, essentially because he was

853
00:50:04.840 --> 00:50:06.840
<v Speaker 1>trying to get into the Guinness Brooke of World Records.

854
00:50:06.840 --> 00:50:09.159
<v Speaker 1>But I don't, I don't actually know what happened. Then

855
00:50:09.199 --> 00:50:12.239
<v Speaker 1>there was some sort of controversy, but eventually he did

856
00:50:12.280 --> 00:50:15.119
<v Speaker 1>not get into the Innisbrook of World Records. But when

857
00:50:15.159 --> 00:50:17.400
<v Speaker 1>he came out, first of all, he looked horrible. I mean,

858
00:50:17.440 --> 00:50:18.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't, I mean, it was all there was by

859
00:50:19.039 --> 00:50:20.960
<v Speaker 1>the guy. I mean he looked like, I mean, he

860
00:50:21.000 --> 00:50:23.239
<v Speaker 1>was a healthy guy, he was a firefighter. He came out,

861
00:50:23.280 --> 00:50:25.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it looked like he looked like a ghost,

862
00:50:25.400 --> 00:50:29.320
<v Speaker 1>to be honest. And he told the story, and I

863
00:50:29.360 --> 00:50:32.320
<v Speaker 1>have it. I've actually posted about on my Facebook several

864
00:50:32.360 --> 00:50:38.400
<v Speaker 1>times about his fighting every night with bigfoots, with these

865
00:50:38.519 --> 00:50:43.079
<v Speaker 1>giant bigfoots that would come and like and he has

866
00:50:43.119 --> 00:50:45.280
<v Speaker 1>a video of them, and he tried to get a

867
00:50:45.360 --> 00:50:47.599
<v Speaker 1>video of them, and he had it was on the news.

868
00:50:47.639 --> 00:50:51.119
<v Speaker 1>Here he it was like this creature. And they would

869
00:50:51.119 --> 00:50:55.280
<v Speaker 1>take him to a room with other bigfoots where even

870
00:50:55.320 --> 00:50:57.920
<v Speaker 1>though it was black, there was a light in the

871
00:50:57.960 --> 00:51:01.840
<v Speaker 1>center and they would tell him messages like telepathically, like

872
00:51:01.920 --> 00:51:05.079
<v Speaker 1>all these messages, and he kept saying, stop taking me.

873
00:51:05.159 --> 00:51:06.840
<v Speaker 1>And there's like we were going to keep you. And

874
00:51:06.840 --> 00:51:09.000
<v Speaker 1>they were threatened. They were they were quite aggressive. They

875
00:51:09.039 --> 00:51:11.079
<v Speaker 1>wanted him to leave, especially, they wanted him out of

876
00:51:11.119 --> 00:51:17.840
<v Speaker 1>the cave. So interestingly, there is a cave system, another

877
00:51:17.920 --> 00:51:20.639
<v Speaker 1>cave system not far from there, of a series of

878
00:51:20.719 --> 00:51:26.519
<v Speaker 1>three caves, and in every cave are these giant paintings ancient.

879
00:51:26.800 --> 00:51:30.039
<v Speaker 1>They're they're been termined to be determined archaeologically to be

880
00:51:30.159 --> 00:51:35.599
<v Speaker 1>archaic at least seven thousand years old of bigfoot, giant bigfoot.

881
00:51:35.800 --> 00:51:38.800
<v Speaker 1>Well all this giant with their arms, you could see

882
00:51:38.800 --> 00:51:41.880
<v Speaker 1>their hair. How they made this so and and and

883
00:51:42.119 --> 00:51:45.719
<v Speaker 1>it's at the at the mouths of these three caves.

884
00:51:46.360 --> 00:51:49.320
<v Speaker 1>So one of the bigfoot is reaching out trying to

885
00:51:49.360 --> 00:51:54.679
<v Speaker 1>grab you. It's very It's another place with eerie, creepy feelings.

886
00:51:54.760 --> 00:51:57.320
<v Speaker 1>You'll get a very strange, heavy feeling when you go

887
00:51:57.400 --> 00:52:01.239
<v Speaker 1>to this cave. It's very it's nerve wracking, it's a

888
00:52:01.320 --> 00:52:05.320
<v Speaker 1>strange place. It's protected by a giant beehive of killer bees.

889
00:52:05.400 --> 00:52:09.239
<v Speaker 1>It's very strange. And all over lining all three of

890
00:52:09.280 --> 00:52:11.840
<v Speaker 1>the caves are these giant paintings of these bigfoots, and

891
00:52:11.840 --> 00:52:15.719
<v Speaker 1>I have photos of them on my social media, as

892
00:52:15.719 --> 00:52:19.559
<v Speaker 1>well as a screenshot of the video that was shown

893
00:52:19.599 --> 00:52:22.960
<v Speaker 1>on the news channel here of the video the man

894
00:52:23.000 --> 00:52:24.760
<v Speaker 1>took when he was living in the cave of the

895
00:52:25.000 --> 00:52:29.480
<v Speaker 1>strange Bigfoot. He was fighting every night. So I'm only

896
00:52:29.599 --> 00:52:32.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm always wondering is there connection between the giants? Did

897
00:52:32.320 --> 00:52:38.480
<v Speaker 1>they go into ground and become these like strange bolers.

898
00:52:39.159 --> 00:52:42.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but it's a very interesting correlation between

899
00:52:42.960 --> 00:52:46.719
<v Speaker 1>him seeing these creatures and he didn't know about those caves.

900
00:52:46.719 --> 00:52:48.800
<v Speaker 1>Most people in the room but don't know about the

901
00:52:48.800 --> 00:52:51.360
<v Speaker 1>caves with the drawings of the bigfoots, which is good

902
00:52:51.400 --> 00:52:53.320
<v Speaker 1>because you want to keep it that way. Because although

903
00:52:53.320 --> 00:52:56.360
<v Speaker 1>it's in the National Park, last time I went, there's

904
00:52:56.440 --> 00:52:58.280
<v Speaker 1>now graffiti on the walls, etc.

905
00:52:58.760 --> 00:53:02.679
<v Speaker 8>So there's a case in Russia that I looked at

906
00:53:02.760 --> 00:53:06.400
<v Speaker 8>it's called the Russian wood Goblins, and it's the same

907
00:53:06.440 --> 00:53:07.039
<v Speaker 8>sort of thing.

908
00:53:07.199 --> 00:53:08.440
<v Speaker 1>There's also portals too.

909
00:53:08.559 --> 00:53:11.559
<v Speaker 8>Going back to that, but there's it's a weird section

910
00:53:11.639 --> 00:53:14.800
<v Speaker 8>of Russia where they see these big foot like creatures.

911
00:53:15.679 --> 00:53:19.920
<v Speaker 8>There's Dolmens in the area, and there's cases of missing time,

912
00:53:20.000 --> 00:53:22.320
<v Speaker 8>and there's cases of people who go into a portal

913
00:53:22.920 --> 00:53:25.960
<v Speaker 8>and don't return for twenty years. But you also have

914
00:53:26.079 --> 00:53:28.599
<v Speaker 8>the bigfoot aspect of it too and the dolmens. But

915
00:53:29.000 --> 00:53:31.159
<v Speaker 8>I was gonna ask you are there dolmens around?

916
00:53:31.880 --> 00:53:36.760
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I found I've mapped now I think I'm up

917
00:53:36.800 --> 00:53:40.119
<v Speaker 1>to thirteen on the island. A lot of them are

918
00:53:40.159 --> 00:53:43.840
<v Speaker 1>on private property, so it's just depends on someone saying,

919
00:53:43.880 --> 00:53:46.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, I think, or they don't even realize that

920
00:53:46.400 --> 00:53:49.159
<v Speaker 1>they're always looking at this stone, and until I start

921
00:53:49.199 --> 00:53:51.440
<v Speaker 1>posting things and they see my work, then they all

922
00:53:51.440 --> 00:53:52.920
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden say, hey, I think I have a

923
00:53:52.960 --> 00:53:57.239
<v Speaker 1>strange stone on my property too. So when since I've

924
00:53:57.280 --> 00:53:59.320
<v Speaker 1>moved back here, I've been saying that people have been

925
00:53:59.320 --> 00:54:02.400
<v Speaker 1>so gracious and invited me onto their property and allowed

926
00:54:02.400 --> 00:54:05.079
<v Speaker 1>me to at least take photos. I don't say where

927
00:54:05.119 --> 00:54:07.719
<v Speaker 1>the stones are, especially if it's private property. But I

928
00:54:07.760 --> 00:54:12.039
<v Speaker 1>do have them mapped. I have them mapped on Google Earth.

929
00:54:12.480 --> 00:54:16.639
<v Speaker 1>And incidentally, all of the balance stones and dolman we

930
00:54:16.760 --> 00:54:20.760
<v Speaker 1>have here, and the balance stones in particular, all form

931
00:54:20.960 --> 00:54:25.239
<v Speaker 1>a pattern and they go from northwest to southeast intersection,

932
00:54:25.760 --> 00:54:30.800
<v Speaker 1>inter secting the island in three parallel lines. And this

933
00:54:30.880 --> 00:54:34.679
<v Speaker 1>is a pattern that was also noted by the archaeologists

934
00:54:34.719 --> 00:54:38.079
<v Speaker 1>as where the petroglyph sites are. So if you and

935
00:54:38.159 --> 00:54:41.599
<v Speaker 1>they did map all the Petrocliff sites, they also follow

936
00:54:41.639 --> 00:54:46.400
<v Speaker 1>a northwest to southeast pattern. These dolmen and standing stones

937
00:54:46.440 --> 00:54:51.280
<v Speaker 1>and balanced stones also follow a northwest to northeast pattern.

938
00:54:51.320 --> 00:54:55.639
<v Speaker 1>They connect each other. And also in the burials, the

939
00:54:55.719 --> 00:54:59.679
<v Speaker 1>people were facing from northwest to southeast. That's how they

940
00:54:59.679 --> 00:55:05.719
<v Speaker 1>were married. So the fault lines of Aruba also run

941
00:55:05.960 --> 00:55:09.719
<v Speaker 1>northwest to southeast. So I think there is a we

942
00:55:09.760 --> 00:55:11.960
<v Speaker 1>have trip. I mean, we have an earthquake just a

943
00:55:12.000 --> 00:55:13.760
<v Speaker 1>couple of days ago. We are in a very hot,

944
00:55:13.840 --> 00:55:18.960
<v Speaker 1>hot seismic zone here in Aruba, and there was just

945
00:55:19.000 --> 00:55:21.239
<v Speaker 1>a I don't know if you heard about an earthquake

946
00:55:21.280 --> 00:55:25.760
<v Speaker 1>in Bogata, Columbia, and we felt it here so and

947
00:55:25.800 --> 00:55:28.760
<v Speaker 1>that was like a six point something earthquake. So we're

948
00:55:28.760 --> 00:55:33.840
<v Speaker 1>in a very hot sizemic zone. So it's it's not

949
00:55:34.280 --> 00:55:37.880
<v Speaker 1>the first place on Earth where these dolmen and mound

950
00:55:37.960 --> 00:55:41.920
<v Speaker 1>stones have been coordinating with fault lines. We see this

951
00:55:42.079 --> 00:55:48.280
<v Speaker 1>also with the in uh Salem, New York. I don't

952
00:55:48.320 --> 00:55:50.360
<v Speaker 1>know if you have ever in North Salem, New York.

953
00:55:50.400 --> 00:55:53.599
<v Speaker 1>There is this balanced stone. It's like pink granite, and

954
00:55:53.639 --> 00:55:58.320
<v Speaker 1>it's on these three little tiny quartz stones. And it's

955
00:55:58.440 --> 00:56:02.800
<v Speaker 1>also right next to a fault line. And if you

956
00:56:02.920 --> 00:56:06.440
<v Speaker 1>are to listen to the legends of the Native Americans

957
00:56:06.599 --> 00:56:11.360
<v Speaker 1>in for example, Arizona, the Zooni for example, they will

958
00:56:11.400 --> 00:56:15.280
<v Speaker 1>tell you that those fault lines are portals. That's what

959
00:56:16.519 --> 00:56:19.559
<v Speaker 1>initiates the portal to begin and give the power to

960
00:56:19.599 --> 00:56:25.559
<v Speaker 1>the portal. So and and the archaeologist told me at

961
00:56:25.599 --> 00:56:28.079
<v Speaker 1>one site. We have another site here called the Io

962
00:56:28.199 --> 00:56:32.119
<v Speaker 1>Rock Formation, which is just strange rocks, all rocks balanced.

963
00:56:32.159 --> 00:56:36.599
<v Speaker 1>And I also petroglys there that he told me because

964
00:56:36.639 --> 00:56:38.960
<v Speaker 1>I was I was saying at an Airbnb before I

965
00:56:39.039 --> 00:56:41.760
<v Speaker 1>moved there, right at the base of this Io Rock formation,

966
00:56:41.840 --> 00:56:46.840
<v Speaker 1>because it's so beautiful, very remote. But I kept having nightmares,

967
00:56:47.159 --> 00:56:51.039
<v Speaker 1>like every night, having nightmares. And I had him over

968
00:56:51.079 --> 00:56:53.280
<v Speaker 1>for dinner, and I said, you know, nice, so many

969
00:56:53.400 --> 00:56:56.679
<v Speaker 1>nights I'm walking around with stage. I'm freaking out over here.

970
00:56:57.119 --> 00:56:59.239
<v Speaker 1>And he goes, well, what do you expect your next

971
00:56:59.320 --> 00:57:02.800
<v Speaker 1>to eight port? And it's a summer solstice and this

972
00:57:02.920 --> 00:57:07.679
<v Speaker 1>is a scientists, Well yeah, archaelgists, And so I said,

973
00:57:08.079 --> 00:57:10.360
<v Speaker 1>what do you mean. He goes, yeah, you said. Some

974
00:57:10.440 --> 00:57:12.840
<v Speaker 1>of them come in like you can bring you here,

975
00:57:13.039 --> 00:57:16.440
<v Speaker 1>come in, some go out, and some go both ways

976
00:57:16.719 --> 00:57:20.719
<v Speaker 1>and out. And he said there's probably things coming in

977
00:57:20.760 --> 00:57:22.639
<v Speaker 1>and out and they're just giving you a hard time

978
00:57:22.679 --> 00:57:26.039
<v Speaker 1>as you're sleeping. So I never stayed in that house again.

979
00:57:26.320 --> 00:57:28.239
<v Speaker 1>That was the last time I stayed in that house.

980
00:57:28.280 --> 00:57:31.880
<v Speaker 1>It was too much. I mean, the nightmares were so

981
00:57:32.000 --> 00:57:34.320
<v Speaker 1>vivid you would wake up and still be thinking about

982
00:57:34.320 --> 00:57:37.280
<v Speaker 1>the nightmare the next day. It was just too overwhelming

983
00:57:37.320 --> 00:57:41.000
<v Speaker 1>for me. So yes, I think, for sure there are

984
00:57:41.280 --> 00:57:44.679
<v Speaker 1>many portals on this island, and I think that there

985
00:57:44.840 --> 00:57:47.639
<v Speaker 1>was a way that the giants knew how to harness

986
00:57:47.679 --> 00:57:50.840
<v Speaker 1>that energy in a way that we still don't know

987
00:57:51.320 --> 00:57:52.599
<v Speaker 1>what to do or how to do it.

988
00:57:52.719 --> 00:57:57.320
<v Speaker 7>Sadly, Well, there's a lot of you know, depictions of giants,

989
00:57:57.320 --> 00:58:02.400
<v Speaker 7>in my opinion, in ancient egypt hieroglyphics, uh with like

990
00:58:02.519 --> 00:58:05.679
<v Speaker 7>huge people and then like a tiny person standing next

991
00:58:05.719 --> 00:58:06.039
<v Speaker 7>to them.

992
00:58:07.320 --> 00:58:07.559
<v Speaker 1>You know.

993
00:58:07.679 --> 00:58:12.079
<v Speaker 7>Akanatin was like supposedly a god king with this elongated skull,

994
00:58:12.679 --> 00:58:16.280
<v Speaker 7>big eyes, kind of like some weird pooch belly thing,

995
00:58:16.480 --> 00:58:20.159
<v Speaker 7>kind of like the hump back. It's just like weird anatomy.

996
00:58:20.440 --> 00:58:22.920
<v Speaker 7>And so I think that it's everywhere. I think that

997
00:58:22.960 --> 00:58:25.199
<v Speaker 7>there were little pockets of it all over the place.

998
00:58:25.199 --> 00:58:28.000
<v Speaker 7>But you know, the Egyptians, I feel like we're silly

999
00:58:28.000 --> 00:58:32.960
<v Speaker 7>with portals and magic and all kinds of stuff. So

1000
00:58:33.559 --> 00:58:36.599
<v Speaker 7>if they were into it, I would assume that most

1001
00:58:36.599 --> 00:58:42.119
<v Speaker 7>of the giant races had some type of knowledge information

1002
00:58:43.280 --> 00:58:46.559
<v Speaker 7>something they knew what was up basically, and it's been

1003
00:58:47.840 --> 00:58:50.400
<v Speaker 7>you know, forgotten to us, Like why can't we why

1004
00:58:50.440 --> 00:58:53.639
<v Speaker 7>don't we know how to do this stuff? Like how

1005
00:58:53.679 --> 00:58:56.960
<v Speaker 7>did they figure it out? Like where did they come from? Basically?

1006
00:58:57.079 --> 00:58:57.760
<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean.

1007
00:58:58.360 --> 00:59:01.159
<v Speaker 4>Here's a couple of lose that I pick up. If

1008
00:59:01.199 --> 00:59:05.320
<v Speaker 4>you think about the shape of Akinatn, compare that to

1009
00:59:05.519 --> 00:59:09.039
<v Speaker 4>kind of the shape of the MOI. Right, the big

1010
00:59:09.079 --> 00:59:13.239
<v Speaker 4>giant heads on Easter Island, they got the same pooch belly.

1011
00:59:13.599 --> 00:59:17.199
<v Speaker 4>They got the same elongated features and all sorts of

1012
00:59:17.239 --> 00:59:21.599
<v Speaker 4>other things. It's very similar. And what they were practicing

1013
00:59:21.920 --> 00:59:24.719
<v Speaker 4>is what Greg Little calls the path of Soul's religion.

1014
00:59:25.400 --> 00:59:28.199
<v Speaker 4>And so this goes into the caves, this goes into

1015
00:59:28.239 --> 00:59:30.719
<v Speaker 4>all these other things that had to do with the stars.

1016
00:59:31.719 --> 00:59:34.440
<v Speaker 4>This was a fully formed religion that maybe we just

1017
00:59:34.480 --> 00:59:37.679
<v Speaker 4>don't fully understand today. But it seems like this is

1018
00:59:37.719 --> 00:59:40.800
<v Speaker 4>the crossover between giants and people and this sort of

1019
00:59:40.880 --> 00:59:44.920
<v Speaker 4>astral realm type existence. And again, they're always obsessed with death.

1020
00:59:46.239 --> 00:59:50.880
<v Speaker 1>Really, the islands here are called the Antilles, So I

1021
00:59:50.960 --> 00:59:54.440
<v Speaker 1>am in the Lesser Antilles. Above me is the Greater Antilles.

1022
00:59:54.960 --> 00:59:57.199
<v Speaker 1>So the Antilles means of Atlantis.

1023
00:59:57.800 --> 01:00:02.280
<v Speaker 3>So I believe I was waiting for you to say that.

1024
01:00:02.639 --> 01:00:07.400
<v Speaker 1>These islands were believed to be the remnants of Atlantis

1025
01:00:07.440 --> 01:00:10.800
<v Speaker 1>after the flood event or whatever occurred. I think it

1026
01:00:10.880 --> 01:00:15.159
<v Speaker 1>was a flood event. And so if you're now with

1027
01:00:15.239 --> 01:00:19.079
<v Speaker 1>all this information coming out about the Pyramids and these

1028
01:00:21.320 --> 01:00:24.400
<v Speaker 1>scans of what's going on beneath the Pyramids, which we've

1029
01:00:24.440 --> 01:00:27.880
<v Speaker 1>all heard about for so long, and thankfully science is

1030
01:00:27.880 --> 01:00:31.440
<v Speaker 1>now catching up, and if you think that maybe the

1031
01:00:31.599 --> 01:00:37.239
<v Speaker 1>Egyptians were an offshoot of the survivors of Atlantis. Then

1032
01:00:37.320 --> 01:00:41.320
<v Speaker 1>perhaps the giants are all connected to these original people

1033
01:00:41.400 --> 01:00:45.119
<v Speaker 1>of Atlantis, in which case that would make sense that

1034
01:00:45.400 --> 01:00:49.519
<v Speaker 1>the giants here would also be manipulating portals and also

1035
01:00:49.599 --> 01:00:52.639
<v Speaker 1>obsessed with death and going to the path of souls.

1036
01:00:52.800 --> 01:00:56.719
<v Speaker 1>There's a petroglyph here that it's I think of one

1037
01:00:56.800 --> 01:01:00.920
<v Speaker 1>hundred percent it's demonstrating the path of souls. And I

1038
01:01:01.000 --> 01:01:03.960
<v Speaker 1>actually was going to talk to Gregory about it, because

1039
01:01:04.400 --> 01:01:06.039
<v Speaker 1>I did. I went there on a night hike to

1040
01:01:06.119 --> 01:01:09.159
<v Speaker 1>check it out to see if it aligned with Orion. Uh,

1041
01:01:09.199 --> 01:01:13.119
<v Speaker 1>it's I believe it's a petroglyph of Orion and it's

1042
01:01:13.199 --> 01:01:18.679
<v Speaker 1>showing the Milky Way and different planets. It's it's a huge,

1043
01:01:18.800 --> 01:01:23.119
<v Speaker 1>huge petrical panel, and it's in a very secluded area.

1044
01:01:23.199 --> 01:01:25.639
<v Speaker 1>It's also protected. It's in the National Park. But it

1045
01:01:25.679 --> 01:01:29.000
<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean that something couldn't happen God forbid. But it

1046
01:01:29.079 --> 01:01:32.320
<v Speaker 1>is also I believe it is showing the path of souls.

1047
01:01:32.360 --> 01:01:35.440
<v Speaker 1>And since there was such an obsession here with death.

1048
01:01:35.559 --> 01:01:38.159
<v Speaker 1>As a matter of fact, just to go back to

1049
01:01:38.280 --> 01:01:42.079
<v Speaker 1>their obsession with death, the power of the giants didn't

1050
01:01:42.440 --> 01:01:45.880
<v Speaker 1>die when they died. The giants, the power of the

1051
01:01:45.920 --> 01:01:50.599
<v Speaker 1>giants was maintained in their bones, so they really worshiped

1052
01:01:50.599 --> 01:01:51.840
<v Speaker 1>the bones.

1053
01:01:51.840 --> 01:01:56.639
<v Speaker 5>And so obsessed.

1054
01:01:56.920 --> 01:02:00.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they and they know they didn't practice cannibalism, they

1055
01:02:00.239 --> 01:02:03.519
<v Speaker 1>didn't do human sacrifice, they didn't even really do cremation

1056
01:02:04.840 --> 01:02:09.000
<v Speaker 1>because they were obsessed with keeping the bones. And so

1057
01:02:09.079 --> 01:02:12.320
<v Speaker 1>the Path of the Souls had kind of that concept

1058
01:02:13.199 --> 01:02:16.239
<v Speaker 1>of that belief system, which is so ancient and so

1059
01:02:16.440 --> 01:02:20.239
<v Speaker 1>prevalent in archaic cultures, I think was also going on

1060
01:02:20.360 --> 01:02:23.760
<v Speaker 1>here as well. And I think this petroglyph panel one

1061
01:02:23.800 --> 01:02:26.760
<v Speaker 1>hundred percent dictates that with and it was connected to.

1062
01:02:26.760 --> 01:02:29.320
<v Speaker 3>Orion that graverard you mentioned.

1063
01:02:29.440 --> 01:02:32.039
<v Speaker 4>You said that it was a sky burial and that

1064
01:02:32.119 --> 01:02:34.280
<v Speaker 4>in December, there's no way they could get to it.

1065
01:02:34.599 --> 01:02:36.760
<v Speaker 4>Part of the Path of Soul's religion is the leap

1066
01:02:36.840 --> 01:02:39.679
<v Speaker 4>over water, so maybe they did go out there during

1067
01:02:39.760 --> 01:02:43.440
<v Speaker 4>December during the time period that they use for the

1068
01:02:43.840 --> 01:02:46.639
<v Speaker 4>start of this journey, right at that spot.

1069
01:02:46.880 --> 01:02:50.440
<v Speaker 1>So yes, that's true. Yeah, there's a lot of water here,

1070
01:02:50.519 --> 01:02:53.280
<v Speaker 1>So that's a very good observation. That could definitely be

1071
01:02:53.400 --> 01:02:56.559
<v Speaker 1>something too, that that is the whole Path of the Souls.

1072
01:02:56.760 --> 01:03:00.400
<v Speaker 1>Is this the whole year long path of the goals

1073
01:03:00.480 --> 01:03:03.360
<v Speaker 1>and of this and that is part of it, as

1074
01:03:03.400 --> 01:03:06.360
<v Speaker 1>well as this preservation of the bones and then the

1075
01:03:06.400 --> 01:03:10.559
<v Speaker 1>painting of the bones and the deliberate way they would

1076
01:03:10.840 --> 01:03:14.840
<v Speaker 1>bury the people in the form of Isosceles triangles. They

1077
01:03:14.880 --> 01:03:19.159
<v Speaker 1>were so obsessed with Isosceles triangles that even some of

1078
01:03:19.199 --> 01:03:23.800
<v Speaker 1>the major sites on the island formed giant geoglyphs of

1079
01:03:23.800 --> 01:03:30.440
<v Speaker 1>Isosceles triangles. All their tools have little triangles on Isoceles triangles.

1080
01:03:30.480 --> 01:03:33.280
<v Speaker 1>Where we uh, we had a group of a student

1081
01:03:33.400 --> 01:03:38.480
<v Speaker 1>archaeologists here doing a dig at the giant site where

1082
01:03:38.599 --> 01:03:44.480
<v Speaker 1>Spuci met the giants, and I went with U. I

1083
01:03:44.480 --> 01:03:46.679
<v Speaker 1>saw the site, but then I went with the archaeologists

1084
01:03:46.719 --> 01:03:51.079
<v Speaker 1>that actually were cleaning some of the artifacts and categorizing

1085
01:03:51.119 --> 01:03:56.800
<v Speaker 1>them as part of you know, volunteering my time, and yeah,

1086
01:03:56.840 --> 01:04:00.239
<v Speaker 1>it was It was interesting because every single tool we

1087
01:04:00.320 --> 01:04:04.199
<v Speaker 1>picked up had these Isoceles triangles on them. Everything. There's

1088
01:04:04.239 --> 01:04:09.679
<v Speaker 1>stone tools, there's shell tools. So yeah, I think there

1089
01:04:09.800 --> 01:04:13.800
<v Speaker 1>is also connection with Isoceles triangles and these ancient cultures

1090
01:04:13.840 --> 01:04:16.119
<v Speaker 1>as well. I don't know if it has to do

1091
01:04:16.239 --> 01:04:22.320
<v Speaker 1>with Triangularum, which I have hypothesized, because Triangularum, which is

1092
01:04:22.320 --> 01:04:28.880
<v Speaker 1>a south a southern hemisphere constellation, can actually because I

1093
01:04:28.960 --> 01:04:31.639
<v Speaker 1>live right by the equator, I essentially live on the equator.

1094
01:04:31.760 --> 01:04:36.360
<v Speaker 1>So there's about a couple of day period at this

1095
01:04:36.559 --> 01:04:40.239
<v Speaker 1>time of year, for just about an hour where you

1096
01:04:40.280 --> 01:04:43.760
<v Speaker 1>can see at dusk Triangularum. Some it leaps over the

1097
01:04:43.760 --> 01:04:46.960
<v Speaker 1>equator and you can see very very very close to

1098
01:04:47.119 --> 01:04:50.880
<v Speaker 1>the to the to the line of sight, and then

1099
01:04:50.920 --> 01:04:52.960
<v Speaker 1>it just dips below and then you don't see it.

1100
01:04:53.239 --> 01:04:56.760
<v Speaker 1>So I almost wonder was there a connection between Triangularum

1101
01:04:56.800 --> 01:05:01.760
<v Speaker 1>and these isoceless This obsession was Absosceles Isoceles triangles, because

1102
01:05:01.800 --> 01:05:04.280
<v Speaker 1>that's what connects all these sites to the ones here

1103
01:05:04.320 --> 01:05:08.760
<v Speaker 1>in the Caribbean. Are these Isoceles triangle the burials and

1104
01:05:08.880 --> 01:05:12.679
<v Speaker 1>the tool marks and the way that the stones are

1105
01:05:12.719 --> 01:05:15.639
<v Speaker 1>set up there. There are stone monoliths and megalists are

1106
01:05:15.679 --> 01:05:18.840
<v Speaker 1>also set up in the form of Isoceles triangles. So

1107
01:05:18.880 --> 01:05:24.079
<v Speaker 1>the waves, yes, that could be too exactly, Yes, it

1108
01:05:24.159 --> 01:05:25.440
<v Speaker 1>could be something with energy.

1109
01:05:25.639 --> 01:05:27.679
<v Speaker 2>It actually brings me to a question that was trying

1110
01:05:27.679 --> 01:05:29.519
<v Speaker 2>to get back to, but I didn't want to interrupt.

1111
01:05:29.880 --> 01:05:32.480
<v Speaker 2>About going back to the caves. You said some of

1112
01:05:32.519 --> 01:05:34.400
<v Speaker 2>them had certain purposes. Was there any of them that

1113
01:05:34.480 --> 01:05:37.000
<v Speaker 2>might have been known for like healing or anything? Like that.

1114
01:05:38.920 --> 01:05:42.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't specifically see any evidence of that. I would

1115
01:05:42.239 --> 01:05:44.920
<v Speaker 1>have to assume because I'm sure some of the caves

1116
01:05:44.920 --> 01:05:49.639
<v Speaker 1>have certain harmonics. But I know that by the giant

1117
01:05:49.679 --> 01:05:53.480
<v Speaker 1>skeletons that were found hallucinogens, there was a mushroom that

1118
01:05:53.519 --> 01:05:57.239
<v Speaker 1>they were growing here that I promise you every a

1119
01:05:57.360 --> 01:06:00.679
<v Speaker 1>Reuben is trying to figure out what mushroom had. I

1120
01:06:00.679 --> 01:06:04.199
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I think it's extinct because no one's come

1121
01:06:04.280 --> 01:06:07.159
<v Speaker 1>up with it as far as I know, and I

1122
01:06:07.199 --> 01:06:11.760
<v Speaker 1>would hope I would know. But they were definitely using hallucinogens.

1123
01:06:11.880 --> 01:06:15.280
<v Speaker 1>So they were making a tea, so that was what

1124
01:06:15.360 --> 01:06:18.679
<v Speaker 1>they could determine the archaeologist, and that's in the archaeological report.

1125
01:06:19.039 --> 01:06:22.760
<v Speaker 1>There was also a plant that also is not here anymore,

1126
01:06:24.000 --> 01:06:27.719
<v Speaker 1>that they were making a hallucinogenic drink with. So it

1127
01:06:27.760 --> 01:06:31.079
<v Speaker 1>wasn't ayahuasca, but I'm assuming it's something along those lines,

1128
01:06:31.480 --> 01:06:34.239
<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure that they were. Of course, this would

1129
01:06:34.280 --> 01:06:37.400
<v Speaker 1>only be the shaman, This wouldn't be the general population

1130
01:06:37.559 --> 01:06:40.119
<v Speaker 1>was involved in these things at all. These First of all,

1131
01:06:40.159 --> 01:06:43.519
<v Speaker 1>the caves, most of them are so completely inaccessible and

1132
01:06:43.679 --> 01:06:45.840
<v Speaker 1>hidden from plain sight. I mean, you could walk by

1133
01:06:45.880 --> 01:06:48.320
<v Speaker 1>it one hundred times in a day and never even

1134
01:06:48.360 --> 01:06:52.000
<v Speaker 1>see that there were a cave system above you. So

1135
01:06:52.400 --> 01:06:55.760
<v Speaker 1>they were very secretive. And I think they probably did

1136
01:06:55.800 --> 01:07:00.480
<v Speaker 1>do something with psychedelics in these caves, and if that

1137
01:07:00.559 --> 01:07:02.880
<v Speaker 1>had something to do with healing, I would assume it would.

1138
01:07:02.920 --> 01:07:06.199
<v Speaker 1>But other than that, I don't see any or in

1139
01:07:06.239 --> 01:07:09.280
<v Speaker 1>the archaeological report, in my own investigations, anything that could

1140
01:07:09.360 --> 01:07:11.920
<v Speaker 1>really point you to that. But I mean, it would

1141
01:07:11.960 --> 01:07:15.239
<v Speaker 1>be safe to assume if they're using hallucinogens, there's something

1142
01:07:15.320 --> 01:07:18.960
<v Speaker 1>that's going on that's spiritual of a spiritual level. Not

1143
01:07:18.960 --> 01:07:21.679
<v Speaker 1>sure if it's healing, but maybe the messages that they

1144
01:07:21.679 --> 01:07:23.840
<v Speaker 1>got were healing to the people.

1145
01:07:25.079 --> 01:07:27.320
<v Speaker 2>The reason I ask is I just wonder if sometimes

1146
01:07:27.320 --> 01:07:29.159
<v Speaker 2>some of the stuff written on the walls is more

1147
01:07:29.199 --> 01:07:32.039
<v Speaker 2>of like especially with like the spiral waves, if it's

1148
01:07:32.079 --> 01:07:34.880
<v Speaker 2>more of like telling you the frequency to play the use.

1149
01:07:35.280 --> 01:07:38.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, there is a in New Jersey. There

1150
01:07:38.840 --> 01:07:41.679
<v Speaker 1>was a group it's off it's on the part of

1151
01:07:41.719 --> 01:07:45.039
<v Speaker 1>Princeton University that is stettying the harmonics of the caves.

1152
01:07:45.480 --> 01:07:47.880
<v Speaker 1>And I actually wrote them a letter because I wanted

1153
01:07:47.920 --> 01:07:50.639
<v Speaker 1>them to come to Aruba and test the harmonics of

1154
01:07:50.679 --> 01:07:53.079
<v Speaker 1>the caves to see if they were at because they

1155
01:07:53.079 --> 01:07:55.800
<v Speaker 1>were finding that certain caves with all these with all

1156
01:07:55.880 --> 01:07:59.599
<v Speaker 1>the petroglyphs, we're hitting certain at certain tones that would

1157
01:07:59.599 --> 01:08:03.559
<v Speaker 1>like we've heerate and shake almost the whole cave. And

1158
01:08:03.679 --> 01:08:06.239
<v Speaker 1>so I wanted them to come to test it, but

1159
01:08:07.079 --> 01:08:09.079
<v Speaker 1>they were too busy and they were in another part

1160
01:08:09.079 --> 01:08:11.639
<v Speaker 1>of the world, and I never followed up with it again.

1161
01:08:11.719 --> 01:08:13.840
<v Speaker 4>But if you look up, if you look up the

1162
01:08:13.920 --> 01:08:19.159
<v Speaker 4>Helmholtz frequency, they have very easy to follow formulas to

1163
01:08:19.199 --> 01:08:22.119
<v Speaker 4>where you can measure that just by taking the dimensions

1164
01:08:22.119 --> 01:08:26.159
<v Speaker 4>of a room, so you can actually frequency yourself. Yeah,

1165
01:08:26.199 --> 01:08:29.439
<v Speaker 4>what is it called Helmholtz frequency?

1166
01:08:29.640 --> 01:08:34.359
<v Speaker 1>Okay, thank you, Yeah, it's great information. Thank you. I'm

1167
01:08:34.359 --> 01:08:36.760
<v Speaker 1>going to try it. I will definitely try it because

1168
01:08:37.000 --> 01:08:39.560
<v Speaker 1>I've been wondering that for years about the harmonics of

1169
01:08:39.640 --> 01:08:43.319
<v Speaker 1>the caves. I know, in certain areas, especially the one

1170
01:08:43.319 --> 01:08:46.000
<v Speaker 1>cave with the bigfoots, if you clap at one area,

1171
01:08:46.119 --> 01:08:48.840
<v Speaker 1>you'll hear it in another part of the cave. So

1172
01:08:49.039 --> 01:08:51.039
<v Speaker 1>you won't even hit sorry, you won't even hear it

1173
01:08:51.119 --> 01:08:54.479
<v Speaker 1>so much like by you, but you'll hear it really loud,

1174
01:08:54.600 --> 01:08:56.920
<v Speaker 1>really far away, in like another part of the cave.

1175
01:08:57.079 --> 01:09:01.319
<v Speaker 1>So that's you know, That's really got me thinking about

1176
01:09:01.319 --> 01:09:04.800
<v Speaker 1>the harmonics of the caves so and what the frequency

1177
01:09:04.840 --> 01:09:07.079
<v Speaker 1>would be. So, yeah, for sure that could be that.

1178
01:09:07.159 --> 01:09:10.760
<v Speaker 1>It could be the harmonics as well. That's something to

1179
01:09:10.760 --> 01:09:12.840
<v Speaker 1>think about and more research has to be done.

1180
01:09:13.359 --> 01:09:13.560
<v Speaker 2>Well.

1181
01:09:13.720 --> 01:09:19.039
<v Speaker 4>Usually usually with big open spaces, it's a much lower frequency,

1182
01:09:19.159 --> 01:09:22.960
<v Speaker 4>so you're talking like four hertz or whatever. But most

1183
01:09:23.000 --> 01:09:25.399
<v Speaker 4>of these sites, like the Dolmens and stuff like that

1184
01:09:25.520 --> 01:09:28.199
<v Speaker 4>up in New Grange and all these other places, they're

1185
01:09:28.239 --> 01:09:32.399
<v Speaker 4>all around the four hertz range. And so what they

1186
01:09:32.479 --> 01:09:35.800
<v Speaker 4>say is that once you hit that Helmholtz residence, then

1187
01:09:36.279 --> 01:09:39.000
<v Speaker 4>that's when people start really tripping out. So you've got

1188
01:09:39.000 --> 01:09:43.119
<v Speaker 4>that combination of a lot of really powerful hallucinogens going

1189
01:09:43.159 --> 01:09:44.239
<v Speaker 4>on in that same area.

1190
01:09:44.800 --> 01:09:47.800
<v Speaker 1>Wow, very interesting. Now I'll have to check it out.

1191
01:09:47.840 --> 01:09:51.159
<v Speaker 1>Thank you. That's definitely something to look at, and it's

1192
01:09:51.199 --> 01:09:54.960
<v Speaker 1>definitely another component, I think, another layer.

1193
01:09:56.199 --> 01:09:59.680
<v Speaker 3>The hieroglyphics or whatever.

1194
01:09:59.720 --> 01:10:02.319
<v Speaker 7>The piction that you mentioned in the one cave that

1195
01:10:02.359 --> 01:10:06.159
<v Speaker 7>had like the Milky Way and everything, it sounds like

1196
01:10:06.279 --> 01:10:10.720
<v Speaker 7>the opening to the movie Prometheus, like they left these

1197
01:10:11.239 --> 01:10:13.880
<v Speaker 7>you know, they left these sigils and stuff for us

1198
01:10:13.920 --> 01:10:16.800
<v Speaker 7>to find, and you know they they end up finding

1199
01:10:16.840 --> 01:10:19.880
<v Speaker 7>these giant people. But anyway, so it made me think

1200
01:10:19.880 --> 01:10:23.479
<v Speaker 7>of this. There are a lot of islands kind of

1201
01:10:23.600 --> 01:10:30.159
<v Speaker 7>like Aruba that have legends of giants that I have studied.

1202
01:10:31.119 --> 01:10:34.159
<v Speaker 7>You're obviously the authority on the Aruba side of things,

1203
01:10:34.159 --> 01:10:36.399
<v Speaker 7>but I know that there are other islands with legends

1204
01:10:36.399 --> 01:10:39.239
<v Speaker 7>of giants. But they also report a high amount of

1205
01:10:39.359 --> 01:10:44.720
<v Speaker 7>UFO activity. And they also report like things flying in

1206
01:10:44.760 --> 01:10:49.680
<v Speaker 7>and out of the water and disappearing, just weird stuff

1207
01:10:49.720 --> 01:10:52.520
<v Speaker 7>like that. I'm not a huge alien person, but I

1208
01:10:52.560 --> 01:10:55.479
<v Speaker 7>do believe that there's some weird stuff that people are seeing.

1209
01:10:56.319 --> 01:10:59.039
<v Speaker 7>So what about Aruba, Like, are people seeing stuff coming

1210
01:10:59.119 --> 01:10:59.680
<v Speaker 7>up out.

1211
01:10:59.479 --> 01:11:00.119
<v Speaker 1>Of the water?

1212
01:11:00.279 --> 01:11:04.199
<v Speaker 7>Is there any weird lights in the sky stuff? Like,

1213
01:11:04.319 --> 01:11:05.640
<v Speaker 7>what's what's going on with that?

1214
01:11:07.119 --> 01:11:09.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we see UFOs all the time. All the time.

1215
01:11:09.760 --> 01:11:13.399
<v Speaker 1>We see them. We see them. I was like in

1216
01:11:13.439 --> 01:11:18.399
<v Speaker 1>the daytime even I was with my my ex father

1217
01:11:18.439 --> 01:11:20.920
<v Speaker 1>in law. My ex husband is a ruben so I

1218
01:11:21.039 --> 01:11:23.159
<v Speaker 1>was with him when you know, before my daughter was born,

1219
01:11:23.239 --> 01:11:25.760
<v Speaker 1>and I had a high balcony and we were sitting

1220
01:11:25.800 --> 01:11:28.880
<v Speaker 1>on the balcony during the day and there were all

1221
01:11:28.920 --> 01:11:32.920
<v Speaker 1>these strange lights like moving and getting together. I mean

1222
01:11:32.880 --> 01:11:34.439
<v Speaker 1>it was during the day, so it was just so

1223
01:11:34.640 --> 01:11:37.760
<v Speaker 1>jaring and I had just moved to Ruba, So I thought,

1224
01:11:37.960 --> 01:11:40.439
<v Speaker 1>was this a thing? I don't know? So, I mean,

1225
01:11:40.479 --> 01:11:43.039
<v Speaker 1>I thought, because we have military bases around us. We

1226
01:11:43.079 --> 01:11:45.520
<v Speaker 1>have the Dutch military here, we have the US Air

1227
01:11:45.560 --> 01:11:48.479
<v Speaker 1>Force as a base in Currouseu. So I thought, maybe

1228
01:11:48.560 --> 01:11:53.279
<v Speaker 1>this is military maneuvers. And I said to him, I said,

1229
01:11:53.319 --> 01:11:56.640
<v Speaker 1>what are those lights? And he looked at me like

1230
01:11:56.640 --> 01:11:59.479
<v Speaker 1>like a ghost, like he saw a ghost. He had

1231
01:11:59.520 --> 01:12:03.079
<v Speaker 1>no idea. Yeah, he couldn't explain it. I've never seen

1232
01:12:03.119 --> 01:12:06.279
<v Speaker 1>anything like that. I have heard from people that I've

1233
01:12:06.399 --> 01:12:11.439
<v Speaker 1>interviewed personally by specifically the rock formations, the balance stones,

1234
01:12:11.479 --> 01:12:14.840
<v Speaker 1>one of the largest balance stones that I've ever seen

1235
01:12:14.920 --> 01:12:19.039
<v Speaker 1>my whole life. The man is he's a respected man

1236
01:12:19.079 --> 01:12:21.840
<v Speaker 1>in the community. He's, you know, in his sixties. He's

1237
01:12:21.920 --> 01:12:24.920
<v Speaker 1>got me. He's not crazy. He told me. When I

1238
01:12:24.960 --> 01:12:27.359
<v Speaker 1>was a kid, we would see lights coming out of

1239
01:12:27.399 --> 01:12:30.319
<v Speaker 1>there going in there. The lights would sometimes would be

1240
01:12:30.359 --> 01:12:32.680
<v Speaker 1>so bright. We always thought they were just portals. We

1241
01:12:32.960 --> 01:12:37.039
<v Speaker 1>didn't know if they were UFOs, he said. Sometimes the

1242
01:12:37.119 --> 01:12:40.239
<v Speaker 1>lights would dance. The other site I told you about

1243
01:12:40.319 --> 01:12:43.000
<v Speaker 1>where the house was that and where I was on

1244
01:12:43.039 --> 01:12:46.800
<v Speaker 1>the beach with the knocking. I interviewed people there, like

1245
01:12:46.920 --> 01:12:49.359
<v Speaker 1>old school of Rubens, and they tell me all the

1246
01:12:49.399 --> 01:12:52.159
<v Speaker 1>times they would they called them the dancing lights. They

1247
01:12:52.159 --> 01:12:56.239
<v Speaker 1>would just see lights moving across the sand and they

1248
01:12:56.239 --> 01:12:58.920
<v Speaker 1>were scared. They didn't know they were scared, but they

1249
01:12:59.039 --> 01:13:01.199
<v Speaker 1>didn't try to ter act with the lights. Because this

1250
01:13:01.319 --> 01:13:05.199
<v Speaker 1>is also deeply Catholic country. So it's interesting because you

1251
01:13:05.279 --> 01:13:11.199
<v Speaker 1>have all these strange phenomenon and all this crazy ancient

1252
01:13:12.319 --> 01:13:16.520
<v Speaker 1>magic really occurring on the island, coupled with society that's

1253
01:13:16.680 --> 01:13:21.119
<v Speaker 1>very Christian and so but to them, you know, they

1254
01:13:21.199 --> 01:13:25.840
<v Speaker 1>also hold their indigenous qualities, so they try to mesh

1255
01:13:26.000 --> 01:13:33.439
<v Speaker 1>the Catholicism with There are supernatural experiences, so they saw,

1256
01:13:33.560 --> 01:13:35.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, they and they didn't attribute any of this

1257
01:13:35.600 --> 01:13:38.119
<v Speaker 1>to God or angels or anything. They attributed it right

1258
01:13:38.119 --> 01:13:41.000
<v Speaker 1>away to something supernatural. They knew right away. They thought

1259
01:13:41.000 --> 01:13:44.640
<v Speaker 1>it was UFOs. They thought it was something alien or

1260
01:13:45.039 --> 01:13:49.079
<v Speaker 1>they didn't connect it to ghosts, and they just assumed.

1261
01:13:49.199 --> 01:13:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Then we also have strange and eye witnessed that too,

1262
01:13:52.199 --> 01:13:56.960
<v Speaker 1>strange like strange like little tornadoes but there's no wind

1263
01:13:57.520 --> 01:14:02.039
<v Speaker 1>and there's none. Yeah, really remote parts of the island,

1264
01:14:02.079 --> 01:14:04.279
<v Speaker 1>particularly the same part of the island where I told

1265
01:14:04.279 --> 01:14:06.520
<v Speaker 1>you with the house that no one would rent that

1266
01:14:06.560 --> 01:14:09.479
<v Speaker 1>part of the island. Yeah, I saw it and I

1267
01:14:09.560 --> 01:14:11.199
<v Speaker 1>was with my friend and I said, what is in

1268
01:14:11.239 --> 01:14:14.199
<v Speaker 1>front of us? And we were like, oh my god.

1269
01:14:14.359 --> 01:14:17.079
<v Speaker 1>We couldn't believe it. There was no way, there was

1270
01:14:17.119 --> 01:14:19.199
<v Speaker 1>no there was nothing. We don't know how this thing

1271
01:14:19.239 --> 01:14:21.319
<v Speaker 1>could whip up. It was like in the Mummy, the

1272
01:14:21.359 --> 01:14:23.039
<v Speaker 1>movie The Mummy, I don't know, if you know, and

1273
01:14:23.159 --> 01:14:24.960
<v Speaker 1>they whip up they.

1274
01:14:24.479 --> 01:14:26.920
<v Speaker 3>Always the sand, the sand and.

1275
01:14:26.920 --> 01:14:29.439
<v Speaker 1>The engulf sea. I mean, it was like that was

1276
01:14:29.560 --> 01:14:32.840
<v Speaker 1>It's very strange. And that's another common phenomenon seen on

1277
01:14:32.880 --> 01:14:36.520
<v Speaker 1>the island, particularly at these ancient sites. And that's what's

1278
01:14:37.000 --> 01:14:40.680
<v Speaker 1>what's important to remember. These aren't happening in the middle

1279
01:14:40.720 --> 01:14:44.720
<v Speaker 1>of the capital of Aruba or by the tourist area.

1280
01:14:44.800 --> 01:14:49.319
<v Speaker 1>These are specifically happening at these ancient sites that are

1281
01:14:49.960 --> 01:14:54.399
<v Speaker 1>filled with archaic knowledge and artifacts and history, et cetera.

1282
01:14:54.560 --> 01:14:57.560
<v Speaker 4>So there is do you have any Do you have

1283
01:14:57.600 --> 01:14:58.960
<v Speaker 4>any dowsers on the island?

1284
01:15:00.680 --> 01:15:03.600
<v Speaker 1>No, but I have thought about trying to pick up

1285
01:15:03.680 --> 01:15:07.439
<v Speaker 1>that that hobby just to see if I could I

1286
01:15:07.439 --> 01:15:10.600
<v Speaker 1>have had I don't know, if you know. Tim Walter

1287
01:15:15.039 --> 01:15:19.239
<v Speaker 1>Scott Walter here and he was, you know, he wanted

1288
01:15:19.279 --> 01:15:21.319
<v Speaker 1>to check. I took him to some sites as well.

1289
01:15:22.359 --> 01:15:24.760
<v Speaker 1>But uh, and I know that he knows Dowsers. He

1290
01:15:24.800 --> 01:15:27.199
<v Speaker 1>had asked the same question, but I haven't had as

1291
01:15:27.199 --> 01:15:29.399
<v Speaker 1>far as I know. No doubt Dawsers have been here,

1292
01:15:29.439 --> 01:15:31.439
<v Speaker 1>but that would be another interesting angle.

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01:15:32.960 --> 01:15:36.039
<v Speaker 7>I find it highly interesting that there's an air Force

1294
01:15:36.079 --> 01:15:40.159
<v Speaker 7>base out there. Sorry Nick, go ahead, No, no, no, I mean,

1295
01:15:40.199 --> 01:15:42.840
<v Speaker 7>I just think the military knows what the f is

1296
01:15:42.960 --> 01:15:46.560
<v Speaker 7>up and they try to get themselves as close to

1297
01:15:46.640 --> 01:15:47.880
<v Speaker 7>it as they possibly can.

1298
01:15:48.399 --> 01:15:50.800
<v Speaker 1>And they say it's not a military base.

1299
01:15:50.600 --> 01:15:51.000
<v Speaker 2>It's just.

1300
01:15:54.000 --> 01:15:55.600
<v Speaker 3>They're doing a kind of ship.

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01:15:56.039 --> 01:15:58.640
<v Speaker 1>Are you that When I have to do my passports off,

1302
01:15:58.640 --> 01:16:00.359
<v Speaker 1>I have to go to US embassy, and the US

1303
01:16:00.399 --> 01:16:03.760
<v Speaker 1>Embassy is in the curre of South, so you know,

1304
01:16:03.960 --> 01:16:06.159
<v Speaker 1>and it would make sense if you're gonna have the ambassy,

1305
01:16:06.199 --> 01:16:08.640
<v Speaker 1>you want some military presence. I'm sure that was the

1306
01:16:08.640 --> 01:16:11.279
<v Speaker 1>deal that they made. And so they have a military

1307
01:16:11.359 --> 01:16:14.720
<v Speaker 1>base that they have one that is known, and I

1308
01:16:14.720 --> 01:16:17.359
<v Speaker 1>believe it's the I don't know what it is, but

1309
01:16:17.560 --> 01:16:19.720
<v Speaker 1>if they work with the Dutch Marines, because we also

1310
01:16:19.760 --> 01:16:22.439
<v Speaker 1>have the Dutch Marines here and then we have US

1311
01:16:22.640 --> 01:16:25.520
<v Speaker 1>Coastcard down here. We have US Navy down here.

1312
01:16:27.359 --> 01:16:27.560
<v Speaker 8>Yes.

1313
01:16:30.000 --> 01:16:32.840
<v Speaker 1>And so you know when I landed when I went

1314
01:16:32.880 --> 01:16:35.880
<v Speaker 1>to kersl last time, it was a year ago, and

1315
01:16:36.039 --> 01:16:38.159
<v Speaker 1>I realized, oh my god, why there are all these

1316
01:16:38.479 --> 01:16:43.119
<v Speaker 1>US like air Force planes here? And then I realized, wow,

1317
01:16:43.119 --> 01:16:45.560
<v Speaker 1>it's a US air Force base. And they did research. Well,

1318
01:16:45.560 --> 01:16:47.880
<v Speaker 1>it's not an air Force base. It's a part of

1319
01:16:47.920 --> 01:16:49.760
<v Speaker 1>the night. They all these fancy things, but it's an

1320
01:16:49.760 --> 01:16:52.640
<v Speaker 1>air Force base. Of course you land, you're going to

1321
01:16:52.640 --> 01:16:55.560
<v Speaker 1>see you Wow, there's all these US air Force jets there.

1322
01:16:55.600 --> 01:16:58.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean, what are they doing? Then? They just sight seeing?

1323
01:16:58.399 --> 01:17:00.439
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they're like the cat Church.

1324
01:17:00.840 --> 01:17:02.560
<v Speaker 8>Nick knows what I'm talking about. They want to put

1325
01:17:02.560 --> 01:17:07.359
<v Speaker 8>their bases right on top of the ancient sites, just like.

1326
01:17:08.279 --> 01:17:13.439
<v Speaker 1>Agree at Alta Vista. At Alta Vista Chapel, they put

1327
01:17:13.439 --> 01:17:16.760
<v Speaker 1>it exactly on top of an ancient site that was

1328
01:17:16.800 --> 01:17:19.600
<v Speaker 1>a religious site to the giants. As a matter of fact,

1329
01:17:19.600 --> 01:17:22.520
<v Speaker 1>the giants kept like burning down the churches that were

1330
01:17:22.319 --> 01:17:25.239
<v Speaker 1>Then the priests talk about this and they write about

1331
01:17:25.239 --> 01:17:29.760
<v Speaker 1>it that and they're frustration. The priests are frustrated because

1332
01:17:29.800 --> 01:17:33.319
<v Speaker 1>they cannot keep these churches intact, because the giants keep

1333
01:17:33.319 --> 01:17:37.079
<v Speaker 1>burning them down, and uh, I think that's another part

1334
01:17:37.119 --> 01:17:40.039
<v Speaker 1>too of the demise of the giants. Sadly, a lot

1335
01:17:40.039 --> 01:17:42.199
<v Speaker 1>of them I think probably got killed because they were

1336
01:17:42.239 --> 01:17:45.399
<v Speaker 1>just getting in the way of everything that the plans

1337
01:17:45.399 --> 01:17:49.880
<v Speaker 1>that the Europeans have for the islands. And we're cooperating,

1338
01:17:50.279 --> 01:17:52.359
<v Speaker 1>but we do have an ancient site. It's one of

1339
01:17:52.399 --> 01:17:55.039
<v Speaker 1>the most ancient sites on the on the island down

1340
01:17:55.119 --> 01:17:57.560
<v Speaker 1>on top of it, as well as another ancient site

1341
01:17:57.600 --> 01:17:59.319
<v Speaker 1>that I'm going to go to on the solstice where

1342
01:17:59.359 --> 01:18:04.000
<v Speaker 1>they alsound burials, and another ancient site where there are burials.

1343
01:18:04.039 --> 01:18:07.560
<v Speaker 1>There are three Catholic churches on all three of those sites,

1344
01:18:07.600 --> 01:18:10.680
<v Speaker 1>and everything has been desecrated, everything.

1345
01:18:10.479 --> 01:18:12.640
<v Speaker 5>Just like Italy. Yep, just like Italy.

1346
01:18:13.119 --> 01:18:15.840
<v Speaker 7>Tim knows what's up. I was gonna mention that too.

1347
01:18:15.920 --> 01:18:17.640
<v Speaker 7>I mean, of course, so you got to have your

1348
01:18:17.680 --> 01:18:20.520
<v Speaker 7>military presence and then you also have to follow that

1349
01:18:20.640 --> 01:18:25.560
<v Speaker 7>up with like some kind of religious institution, mostly Catholic,

1350
01:18:25.960 --> 01:18:30.079
<v Speaker 7>is what I've found. But wow, may I mean, Heather,

1351
01:18:30.199 --> 01:18:33.399
<v Speaker 7>You're kicking my ass. I had no idea about some

1352
01:18:33.479 --> 01:18:36.279
<v Speaker 7>of this stuff. You're amazing, girl, This is crazy.

1353
01:18:37.119 --> 01:18:39.760
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate the opportunity to share it. You know, you

1354
01:18:39.840 --> 01:18:42.840
<v Speaker 1>spend all these hours of your life researching something and

1355
01:18:42.880 --> 01:18:44.680
<v Speaker 1>then you know, I'll try to talk to my family

1356
01:18:44.720 --> 01:18:47.680
<v Speaker 1>about it. In their eyes, just glass arena to be

1357
01:18:47.720 --> 01:18:51.439
<v Speaker 1>around certain people and who appreciate it. So I'm really

1358
01:18:51.520 --> 01:18:52.880
<v Speaker 1>enjoying speaking with you all.

1359
01:18:53.800 --> 01:18:58.600
<v Speaker 6>Is there a lot of lapis lazuli around in that area,

1360
01:18:58.760 --> 01:19:02.479
<v Speaker 6>like that's in any of the caves or like on

1361
01:19:02.520 --> 01:19:03.560
<v Speaker 6>the I have.

1362
01:19:03.720 --> 01:19:06.760
<v Speaker 1>Heard that there is lapis, I have not seen any.

1363
01:19:06.840 --> 01:19:10.720
<v Speaker 1>We do have greenstone, for sure, we have gold. The

1364
01:19:10.760 --> 01:19:14.239
<v Speaker 1>whole island is filled with gold, tons, tons and tons

1365
01:19:14.279 --> 01:19:17.960
<v Speaker 1>of quartz crystal. As a matter of fact, the archaeologists

1366
01:19:17.960 --> 01:19:21.600
<v Speaker 1>determined that all of the ancient rituals of the giants

1367
01:19:21.600 --> 01:19:26.520
<v Speaker 1>were done on quartz crystal. So on the mountain we

1368
01:19:26.600 --> 01:19:30.720
<v Speaker 1>have called crystal, it's literally called crystal saro crystal, which

1369
01:19:30.760 --> 01:19:35.920
<v Speaker 1>is pappimental for crystal crystal mountain. There were burials in there.

1370
01:19:36.000 --> 01:19:41.199
<v Speaker 1>You can still find ruby, rose cord, You could find rubies.

1371
01:19:42.520 --> 01:19:47.119
<v Speaker 1>So there are some semi precious stones here for sure. Yeah,

1372
01:19:47.239 --> 01:19:52.720
<v Speaker 1>so uh that they say Also Onyx is here and interestingly,

1373
01:19:53.039 --> 01:19:55.439
<v Speaker 1>and this is now three times it came up. It

1374
01:19:55.479 --> 01:19:58.279
<v Speaker 1>came up in the archaeological reports. It came up and

1375
01:19:58.359 --> 01:20:00.640
<v Speaker 1>some of the exploring I've done, and it came up

1376
01:20:00.640 --> 01:20:05.479
<v Speaker 1>when these amateur archaeologists came here, the student archaeologists, and

1377
01:20:05.560 --> 01:20:08.800
<v Speaker 1>I was helping them cleaning the artifacts all three times.

1378
01:20:08.840 --> 01:20:12.279
<v Speaker 1>In some of these anti burials they had inart part

1379
01:20:12.319 --> 01:20:17.119
<v Speaker 1>of the grave gifts, they found pieces of green glass, So,

1380
01:20:17.840 --> 01:20:21.039
<v Speaker 1>which is very odd because that would mean that what

1381
01:20:21.039 --> 01:20:23.399
<v Speaker 1>would they do? How were they making glass? They had

1382
01:20:23.439 --> 01:20:28.000
<v Speaker 1>to get to such a high temperature. I have found

1383
01:20:28.000 --> 01:20:31.199
<v Speaker 1>some of their ovens that they had. They were very

1384
01:20:31.199 --> 01:20:34.439
<v Speaker 1>interesting ovens. They would put them. They would take a

1385
01:20:34.760 --> 01:20:37.600
<v Speaker 1>giant stone and just I don't know how because these

1386
01:20:37.600 --> 01:20:40.119
<v Speaker 1>stones are diar right when the you know it's it's

1387
01:20:40.159 --> 01:20:42.279
<v Speaker 1>it's a hard stone. Everyone's, oh, it's only seven on

1388
01:20:42.319 --> 01:20:44.039
<v Speaker 1>the moorstale. Well, then you try to put a hole

1389
01:20:44.079 --> 01:20:46.479
<v Speaker 1>in the direct. So they would put these holes in

1390
01:20:46.560 --> 01:20:49.560
<v Speaker 1>the diaryte and it's like a tunnel and you could

1391
01:20:49.600 --> 01:20:51.800
<v Speaker 1>see the black you know they had they got it

1392
01:20:51.920 --> 01:20:54.159
<v Speaker 1>so hot. I don't know how they did it, but

1393
01:20:55.000 --> 01:20:58.880
<v Speaker 1>if they were making glass, that's that just blows my mind.

1394
01:20:58.920 --> 01:21:01.960
<v Speaker 1>And and three burial sites there were pieces and it's

1395
01:21:02.000 --> 01:21:06.279
<v Speaker 1>always green. So the archaeologist told me she thought was

1396
01:21:06.319 --> 01:21:10.560
<v Speaker 1>polished jade, which would be even crazier if there was jade,

1397
01:21:11.159 --> 01:21:14.399
<v Speaker 1>because the I mean, but you think, okay, the Maya

1398
01:21:14.720 --> 01:21:16.119
<v Speaker 1>had jade, and that's.

1399
01:21:15.880 --> 01:21:16.800
<v Speaker 5>In South America.

1400
01:21:16.960 --> 01:21:19.479
<v Speaker 1>Maybe they were trading with, you know, the Maya. Were

1401
01:21:19.479 --> 01:21:22.560
<v Speaker 1>they the Maya? I don't know, because they're also One

1402
01:21:22.560 --> 01:21:26.800
<v Speaker 1>of the caves in Bonaire has drawings in it, and

1403
01:21:26.920 --> 01:21:32.840
<v Speaker 1>an archaeologist from Florida State University who was an expert

1404
01:21:33.000 --> 01:21:38.479
<v Speaker 1>on proto Mayan and Mayan writing came to Bonair and

1405
01:21:38.600 --> 01:21:40.479
<v Speaker 1>wrote and it was in the I have the article.

1406
01:21:40.560 --> 01:21:43.920
<v Speaker 1>It's in the Miami Herald. In nineteen seventy he wrote

1407
01:21:43.960 --> 01:21:47.800
<v Speaker 1>an article stating that he believed that the drawings, the

1408
01:21:47.840 --> 01:21:51.880
<v Speaker 1>writing in the cave and Bonair was proto Mayan and

1409
01:21:51.920 --> 01:21:54.880
<v Speaker 1>he was shocked at how far the Mayans had come

1410
01:21:54.920 --> 01:21:58.760
<v Speaker 1>and how prolific they had come. While he was kicked

1411
01:21:58.800 --> 01:22:02.600
<v Speaker 1>out of the college, they threatened to take away his

1412
01:22:02.720 --> 01:22:07.079
<v Speaker 1>license to teach unless he wrote a retraction, which I

1413
01:22:07.119 --> 01:22:12.039
<v Speaker 1>also have that in the Miami Herald, apologizing for saying

1414
01:22:12.079 --> 01:22:15.720
<v Speaker 1>that they were proto Mayan drawings and that they could

1415
01:22:15.760 --> 01:22:18.119
<v Speaker 1>not have been my enjoys. Meanwhile, this was an expert.

1416
01:22:18.119 --> 01:22:19.960
<v Speaker 1>There was the only guy in the whole world at

1417
01:22:19.960 --> 01:22:21.920
<v Speaker 1>that time who could read proto Mayan.

1418
01:22:22.560 --> 01:22:28.920
<v Speaker 7>And but he's an idiot apparently because he just I guess.

1419
01:22:30.319 --> 01:22:31.399
<v Speaker 1>They just moved.

1420
01:22:31.720 --> 01:22:35.439
<v Speaker 4>They just proved that the Mayans were the inspiration behind

1421
01:22:35.479 --> 01:22:38.840
<v Speaker 4>the Mississippian culture. They have the artifacts to prove it.

1422
01:22:39.159 --> 01:22:41.000
<v Speaker 4>They were going up through the Gulf.

1423
01:22:41.520 --> 01:22:45.760
<v Speaker 8>Yes, of course, they were in Georgia.

1424
01:22:45.920 --> 01:22:46.159
<v Speaker 4>Yes.

1425
01:22:46.159 --> 01:22:49.560
<v Speaker 1>And they were in Georgia exactly, Yes, and they and

1426
01:22:49.600 --> 01:22:52.319
<v Speaker 1>they even were in Arizona. There are places in Arizona

1427
01:22:52.319 --> 01:22:54.600
<v Speaker 1>where you see petrogliss and you're right away. I was

1428
01:22:55.159 --> 01:22:58.000
<v Speaker 1>with my friend Jeff Woolwine hiking out there. I said,

1429
01:22:58.000 --> 01:23:00.840
<v Speaker 1>this looks Mayan because I had us come from Easter

1430
01:23:00.960 --> 01:23:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Island and Peru, and you know, you see all these drawings,

1431
01:23:05.039 --> 01:23:12.159
<v Speaker 1>it's the same, It's the same. Yeah, Utah as well, exactly.

1432
01:23:12.319 --> 01:23:14.239
<v Speaker 1>So I think the Maya were one of the most

1433
01:23:14.279 --> 01:23:18.800
<v Speaker 1>prolific ancient societies ever on the planet. And it's I

1434
01:23:19.039 --> 01:23:20.880
<v Speaker 1>don't know why people are afraid to say that.

1435
01:23:21.960 --> 01:23:25.079
<v Speaker 8>There's this guy, he's a he's a blogger and I

1436
01:23:25.239 --> 01:23:25.760
<v Speaker 8>have to look.

1437
01:23:25.680 --> 01:23:26.159
<v Speaker 2>Up his name.

1438
01:23:26.560 --> 01:23:27.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm blanking on it.

1439
01:23:27.439 --> 01:23:30.159
<v Speaker 8>But he's been talking about the Mayans in the South

1440
01:23:30.239 --> 01:23:34.720
<v Speaker 8>and Alabama, Georgia in that region. But he's been completely

1441
01:23:34.760 --> 01:23:37.359
<v Speaker 8>shut off from the archaeological world. I mean, he's got

1442
01:23:37.399 --> 01:23:40.600
<v Speaker 8>death He says he received death threats on his blog

1443
01:23:40.640 --> 01:23:44.319
<v Speaker 8>all the time. Still they're still like over here, they're

1444
01:23:44.359 --> 01:23:46.319
<v Speaker 8>still suppressing it.

1445
01:23:46.319 --> 01:23:49.800
<v Speaker 1>It's just unbelievable because it is a major component. It's

1446
01:23:49.840 --> 01:23:52.920
<v Speaker 1>another piece to the story. And you know how much

1447
01:23:53.000 --> 01:23:55.800
<v Speaker 1>interaction with the giants having this the Maya where they

1448
01:23:56.119 --> 01:23:59.039
<v Speaker 1>the same people, you know, because when you I mean

1449
01:23:59.079 --> 01:24:02.000
<v Speaker 1>I just went to and you can see these Mayan temples.

1450
01:24:02.039 --> 01:24:05.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean there are giants all over those temples, giant heads,

1451
01:24:05.680 --> 01:24:10.560
<v Speaker 1>giant faces, giant bodies, giant temples, giant pyramids, you know everything.

1452
01:24:10.720 --> 01:24:12.960
<v Speaker 3>They disappear all at the same time.

1453
01:24:13.159 --> 01:24:16.640
<v Speaker 7>That'd another question that I'd love to know the answer

1454
01:24:16.680 --> 01:24:18.800
<v Speaker 7>to because if they were so tight, you know, it's

1455
01:24:18.840 --> 01:24:21.840
<v Speaker 7>like their best these or whatever, and they are all

1456
01:24:22.039 --> 01:24:27.319
<v Speaker 7>just disappearing, like with little denote trace of where they went.

1457
01:24:27.439 --> 01:24:28.880
<v Speaker 7>I mean, what are you what are your thoughts on

1458
01:24:29.039 --> 01:24:33.319
<v Speaker 7>like ancient technology and stuff, because I do believe that

1459
01:24:33.600 --> 01:24:36.880
<v Speaker 7>some of the giants had ancient technology.

1460
01:24:37.119 --> 01:24:39.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean to move the stones that they've moved. If

1461
01:24:39.960 --> 01:24:41.800
<v Speaker 1>you see the size of these stones, I mean, they're

1462
01:24:42.199 --> 01:24:45.840
<v Speaker 1>bigger than cars, and I can't even I don't. And

1463
01:24:46.000 --> 01:24:51.479
<v Speaker 1>every stone here, especially the balanced stones, are pointed on

1464
01:24:51.479 --> 01:24:56.039
<v Speaker 1>one end and pointing to something. They're always arranged in

1465
01:24:56.079 --> 01:24:59.359
<v Speaker 1>a very specific and deliberate manner so that it's either

1466
01:24:59.399 --> 01:25:01.920
<v Speaker 1>pointed to a burial. And this was also noted in

1467
01:25:01.960 --> 01:25:06.920
<v Speaker 1>the archaeological report that these stones and the petroglyphs were

1468
01:25:06.920 --> 01:25:10.119
<v Speaker 1>always pointing you to something. So sometimes the stones were

1469
01:25:10.159 --> 01:25:13.000
<v Speaker 1>pointing you to a balanced stones supporting you to a mountain.

1470
01:25:13.079 --> 01:25:16.640
<v Speaker 1>For example, right outside my window, I have an extinct volcano.

1471
01:25:17.880 --> 01:25:22.520
<v Speaker 1>A lot of the focus was towards that volcano. And

1472
01:25:22.600 --> 01:25:24.800
<v Speaker 1>some of the stones are pointing to burials, some of

1473
01:25:24.840 --> 01:25:27.920
<v Speaker 1>them are pointing to caves, some of them are pointing

1474
01:25:27.960 --> 01:25:31.439
<v Speaker 1>to other petroglyphs sites or other balanced stones, and some

1475
01:25:31.479 --> 01:25:34.560
<v Speaker 1>of them are pointing to specific areas where they want

1476
01:25:34.600 --> 01:25:38.920
<v Speaker 1>you to look at specific times, for example, the equinox, sunrise,

1477
01:25:39.000 --> 01:25:46.000
<v Speaker 1>or sunset. A lot of the solar alignments that occur

1478
01:25:46.119 --> 01:25:49.479
<v Speaker 1>on the island are usually at sunset and at sunrise

1479
01:25:49.680 --> 01:25:52.560
<v Speaker 1>because those are the most distinct times of the day

1480
01:25:52.600 --> 01:25:55.239
<v Speaker 1>when the sun is actually moving. We don't have much

1481
01:25:55.279 --> 01:25:58.600
<v Speaker 1>movement of the sun here because we're on the equator,

1482
01:25:58.640 --> 01:26:02.399
<v Speaker 1>but at the equinoxes you will see the sun move

1483
01:26:02.680 --> 01:26:05.359
<v Speaker 1>and it's specifically at sunrise and sunset, so a lot

1484
01:26:05.399 --> 01:26:08.840
<v Speaker 1>of those stones also there. The site I'm going to

1485
01:26:08.920 --> 01:26:14.439
<v Speaker 1>go to on Saturday for the solstice has a slit.

1486
01:26:14.760 --> 01:26:18.000
<v Speaker 1>It's a it's a it's a rock shelter. It's totally hidden.

1487
01:26:18.880 --> 01:26:21.880
<v Speaker 1>It's a rock shelter with drawings all around, but on

1488
01:26:21.880 --> 01:26:24.680
<v Speaker 1>one wall there's only one drawing, and it's of a

1489
01:26:24.720 --> 01:26:29.279
<v Speaker 1>man and or a human running, like you could tell

1490
01:26:29.319 --> 01:26:33.159
<v Speaker 1>he's in the state of running. And as the summer

1491
01:26:33.520 --> 01:26:37.439
<v Speaker 1>the sunset sun cuts through this slit that they've made

1492
01:26:37.520 --> 01:26:42.119
<v Speaker 1>in the stone, and it slowly, slowly, slowly engulfts the

1493
01:26:42.199 --> 01:26:46.039
<v Speaker 1>man so until he's like, oh, totally in light and

1494
01:26:46.079 --> 01:26:48.880
<v Speaker 1>in the light, and then he's in the in total blackness.

1495
01:26:49.159 --> 01:26:53.039
<v Speaker 1>It's such a bizarre, strange petroglyphs. I always feel like

1496
01:26:53.079 --> 01:26:55.680
<v Speaker 1>it's either the beginning of the opening of a portal,

1497
01:26:55.800 --> 01:26:58.119
<v Speaker 1>just the way the stones are and how you can't

1498
01:26:58.159 --> 01:26:59.880
<v Speaker 1>see it when you have to really know where this

1499
01:27:00.039 --> 01:27:02.479
<v Speaker 1>site is, a bunch of burials were found at the

1500
01:27:02.520 --> 01:27:06.960
<v Speaker 1>base of this stone structure, so I think, yeah, I

1501
01:27:07.000 --> 01:27:09.760
<v Speaker 1>think that could denote a portal as well. I don't know.

1502
01:27:10.000 --> 01:27:12.359
<v Speaker 4>But if you got a drum, bring it with you.

1503
01:27:13.520 --> 01:27:17.119
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I've thought about that, right, Yeah, Yeah, that's a

1504
01:27:17.159 --> 01:27:20.479
<v Speaker 1>good point. Yeah. I actually I have a friend who

1505
01:27:20.520 --> 01:27:23.239
<v Speaker 1>has a really nice drum. I shouldn't invite them. It's

1506
01:27:23.319 --> 01:27:25.600
<v Speaker 1>just hard, do you know, when to try to disclose

1507
01:27:25.640 --> 01:27:30.119
<v Speaker 1>these places to too many people because they're now protected,

1508
01:27:30.439 --> 01:27:33.319
<v Speaker 1>So it's you know, you get very nervous and people

1509
01:27:33.359 --> 01:27:36.359
<v Speaker 1>are so savvy nowadays. You give a couple of hints

1510
01:27:36.359 --> 01:27:39.159
<v Speaker 1>and they can find it. So I try to be

1511
01:27:39.479 --> 01:27:42.079
<v Speaker 1>very cautious about who I bring to those sites. But

1512
01:27:42.520 --> 01:27:45.800
<v Speaker 1>that one I've never posted about because I don't it's

1513
01:27:45.800 --> 01:27:49.119
<v Speaker 1>an unprotected area. But it's an amazing thing to see

1514
01:27:49.239 --> 01:27:50.359
<v Speaker 1>at the solstice.

1515
01:27:51.079 --> 01:27:55.279
<v Speaker 4>We have some standing stones or dolmens up here. They

1516
01:27:55.319 --> 01:28:01.520
<v Speaker 4>call them glacial erratics. Yeah, these nine hundred pounds boulders

1517
01:28:01.600 --> 01:28:04.000
<v Speaker 4>got dropped in the middle of an island in a lake,

1518
01:28:04.159 --> 01:28:08.079
<v Speaker 4>on top of three rocks, all on top of three rocks.

1519
01:28:08.359 --> 01:28:09.479
<v Speaker 1>Where are you based out.

1520
01:28:09.319 --> 01:28:11.119
<v Speaker 4>Of I'm in Wisconsin.

1521
01:28:11.760 --> 01:28:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh, yes, Wisconsin has a lot. Yes. As a matter

1522
01:28:15.000 --> 01:28:18.000
<v Speaker 1>of fact, I am on social media. I forget which

1523
01:28:18.039 --> 01:28:21.479
<v Speaker 1>one of the platforms it was. I posted those pictures

1524
01:28:21.520 --> 01:28:24.600
<v Speaker 1>to an archaeol, a group of archaeologists, and they all

1525
01:28:24.600 --> 01:28:28.119
<v Speaker 1>told me they were glacial erratics. I said, no, but

1526
01:28:28.319 --> 01:28:31.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm in a Ruba. There were no glaciers here, so

1527
01:28:31.680 --> 01:28:33.560
<v Speaker 1>we have to come up with something else. What's going

1528
01:28:33.640 --> 01:28:37.159
<v Speaker 1>to be next? What's the next? Excuse? Everything's a glacial erratic?

1529
01:28:37.800 --> 01:28:41.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, come on, the glaciers were that intelligent, and

1530
01:28:41.960 --> 01:28:45.680
<v Speaker 1>they would put them specifically in a certain direction, facing

1531
01:28:45.720 --> 01:28:47.880
<v Speaker 1>the solstice, next to a fault line.

1532
01:28:48.000 --> 01:28:51.800
<v Speaker 4>Come on, over and over and over and over again.

1533
01:28:51.920 --> 01:28:55.119
<v Speaker 1>Right exactly? I mean, and then and then like you said,

1534
01:28:55.159 --> 01:28:58.079
<v Speaker 1>like two like a couple of little pointy stones, and

1535
01:28:58.119 --> 01:29:02.239
<v Speaker 1>then there's giant sixty time bowl. It's really ridiculous.

1536
01:29:02.239 --> 01:29:05.840
<v Speaker 4>Well, in my area, one of them had ogum writing

1537
01:29:05.920 --> 01:29:10.039
<v Speaker 4>on it. Oh yes, interesting from Ireland, and it said.

1538
01:29:10.000 --> 01:29:14.640
<v Speaker 1>B L Ball, Oh ball, right.

1539
01:29:14.560 --> 01:29:20.960
<v Speaker 4>Because the Celtic people were mercenaries for the Canaanite Phoenicians,

1540
01:29:21.279 --> 01:29:23.760
<v Speaker 4>so they were worshiping Ball. And it's like the only

1541
01:29:23.800 --> 01:29:25.960
<v Speaker 4>way any of this makes sense is if you actually

1542
01:29:26.199 --> 01:29:30.640
<v Speaker 4>declare that those h copper minds up in Michigan are real.

1543
01:29:31.800 --> 01:29:32.640
<v Speaker 4>They'll never do that.

1544
01:29:33.239 --> 01:29:36.399
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, there's no way. I mean that, and then

1545
01:29:36.800 --> 01:29:38.920
<v Speaker 1>think of how far away the copper has been found

1546
01:29:38.960 --> 01:29:44.000
<v Speaker 1>globally all over the world, this copper was transported, So yeah,

1547
01:29:44.039 --> 01:29:46.560
<v Speaker 1>that's interesting. Have you seen those? Have you been to

1548
01:29:46.640 --> 01:29:47.840
<v Speaker 1>those stones? You?

1549
01:29:47.880 --> 01:29:50.920
<v Speaker 4>I really want to, I mean, uh, I mean you

1550
01:29:50.960 --> 01:29:53.640
<v Speaker 4>said this Saturday, so maybe I'll head up there.

1551
01:29:54.039 --> 01:29:54.279
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

1552
01:29:54.359 --> 01:29:57.239
<v Speaker 1>It's definitely if you have stuff like that in your backyard,

1553
01:29:57.279 --> 01:29:59.880
<v Speaker 1>you should totally check it out. It'll change your life,

1554
01:30:00.119 --> 01:30:02.439
<v Speaker 1>you know. I mean, when I lived in New York,

1555
01:30:02.520 --> 01:30:05.479
<v Speaker 1>I would I I've seen like so I tried to

1556
01:30:05.479 --> 01:30:08.000
<v Speaker 1>see as many megalithic chambers as I could. I'm going

1557
01:30:08.039 --> 01:30:09.960
<v Speaker 1>back to New York actually next week, and I plan

1558
01:30:10.039 --> 01:30:14.079
<v Speaker 1>on seeing a couple more. And yeah, it's so cool

1559
01:30:14.119 --> 01:30:16.840
<v Speaker 1>to like have these sites right in your backyard. And

1560
01:30:17.319 --> 01:30:20.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, and then I always said, if the chambers,

1561
01:30:20.479 --> 01:30:22.920
<v Speaker 1>especially in the megalithic chambers in New York and New England,

1562
01:30:22.920 --> 01:30:25.800
<v Speaker 1>if they got popular and the archaelogists got involved, there

1563
01:30:25.840 --> 01:30:28.079
<v Speaker 1>would just be like a velvet rope in front of

1564
01:30:28.119 --> 01:30:30.039
<v Speaker 1>it and we would just be looking in. You know,

1565
01:30:30.199 --> 01:30:32.760
<v Speaker 1>let's enjoy this while we can still go in it

1566
01:30:32.840 --> 01:30:37.239
<v Speaker 1>and feel the energy and explore it. But the archaelogists

1567
01:30:37.239 --> 01:30:41.920
<v Speaker 1>will never touch those sites either. It's never ever, but yeah,

1568
01:30:42.039 --> 01:30:43.800
<v Speaker 1>you should check it out. I'd love to hear about

1569
01:30:43.840 --> 01:30:44.680
<v Speaker 1>what you find out.

1570
01:30:45.760 --> 01:30:46.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, definitely will.

1571
01:30:47.479 --> 01:30:50.079
<v Speaker 8>So somebody sent me this and I got to read

1572
01:30:50.079 --> 01:30:52.279
<v Speaker 8>this because I want to run it by. They said,

1573
01:30:53.199 --> 01:30:55.279
<v Speaker 8>I once had the honor of being allowed to take

1574
01:30:55.279 --> 01:30:57.680
<v Speaker 8>a stone from the cliffs side next to Serpent Mound,

1575
01:30:58.680 --> 01:31:02.079
<v Speaker 8>and it amazed people for years as the red sandstone

1576
01:31:02.119 --> 01:31:05.680
<v Speaker 8>held a magnetic charge. To this day it makes a

1577
01:31:05.720 --> 01:31:09.760
<v Speaker 8>compass wiggle, though the charge has faded. So I thought

1578
01:31:09.840 --> 01:31:14.359
<v Speaker 8>that's interesting, and I was going to ask you anyway

1579
01:31:14.399 --> 01:31:17.880
<v Speaker 8>about Serpent Mount but as you were talking about Ruba,

1580
01:31:17.920 --> 01:31:19.479
<v Speaker 8>it reminded me of this message.

1581
01:31:19.920 --> 01:31:23.319
<v Speaker 1>You know, I've been to Chaco Canyon at the summer

1582
01:31:23.399 --> 01:31:27.319
<v Speaker 1>solstice sunrise at Casa Rin Kanata Kiva and they only

1583
01:31:27.399 --> 01:31:31.279
<v Speaker 1>let in one hundred people. Literally one hundred people, not

1584
01:31:31.319 --> 01:31:33.520
<v Speaker 1>one hundred cars. One hundred people that count you in

1585
01:31:33.560 --> 01:31:34.960
<v Speaker 1>the car. You have to get there at one o'clock

1586
01:31:35.000 --> 01:31:36.960
<v Speaker 1>in the morning because the line of cars and you

1587
01:31:37.000 --> 01:31:39.079
<v Speaker 1>want to be the first or the second one, make

1588
01:31:39.119 --> 01:31:41.840
<v Speaker 1>sure you get in. So I've seen it twice and

1589
01:31:41.880 --> 01:31:46.000
<v Speaker 1>I brought it with me a trimeter and as the

1590
01:31:46.159 --> 01:31:49.920
<v Speaker 1>sun was rising, there was a strawberry moon was setting

1591
01:31:50.079 --> 01:31:53.239
<v Speaker 1>and the sun was rising. I had the trimeter and

1592
01:31:53.319 --> 01:31:56.000
<v Speaker 1>this is an experiment I saw on YouTube someone do,

1593
01:31:56.439 --> 01:31:59.560
<v Speaker 1>so I recreated it as soon as the sun was rising,

1594
01:32:00.119 --> 01:32:02.880
<v Speaker 1>had it on the stone of the side, and the

1595
01:32:03.000 --> 01:32:07.079
<v Speaker 1>meter was going crazy all of the my compass I

1596
01:32:07.119 --> 01:32:10.119
<v Speaker 1>had old school compass, same things. Everything was fine until

1597
01:32:10.159 --> 01:32:12.840
<v Speaker 1>the sun started to come up and started to rise,

1598
01:32:13.159 --> 01:32:16.079
<v Speaker 1>and then the light event occurred at Casa rin Kanata kiva,

1599
01:32:16.159 --> 01:32:19.640
<v Speaker 1>which is where the sun goes through one square and

1600
01:32:19.680 --> 01:32:21.920
<v Speaker 1>then it and there's tea pillars there. I don't know

1601
01:32:21.960 --> 01:32:25.920
<v Speaker 1>if you've ever looked at that kiva, but it goes

1602
01:32:25.960 --> 01:32:28.479
<v Speaker 1>through one square and then it follows and then it

1603
01:32:29.239 --> 01:32:32.199
<v Speaker 1>lights up another one of the windows and then the

1604
01:32:32.199 --> 01:32:35.359
<v Speaker 1>whole thing goes away and it's it's amazing. But at

1605
01:32:35.359 --> 01:32:39.199
<v Speaker 1>that moment, the trimeter and my compass were going crazy.

1606
01:32:39.239 --> 01:32:42.760
<v Speaker 1>And that's sandstone, so it's the same same concept. So yeah,

1607
01:32:42.800 --> 01:32:45.159
<v Speaker 1>it's I think one hundred percent hold to charge because

1608
01:32:45.159 --> 01:32:46.439
<v Speaker 1>I noticed it. I saw it.

1609
01:32:47.199 --> 01:32:48.000
<v Speaker 2>So I was just.

1610
01:32:48.000 --> 01:32:52.439
<v Speaker 4>Listening today about Goldbecky Tepee and they found other sites

1611
01:32:52.920 --> 01:32:56.319
<v Speaker 4>that have those exact kind of tea pillars that now

1612
01:32:56.439 --> 01:33:01.479
<v Speaker 4>align perfectly with the summer solstice. So there's groups of

1613
01:33:01.479 --> 01:33:03.800
<v Speaker 4>people that are heading up there for that. But I

1614
01:33:03.800 --> 01:33:06.439
<v Speaker 4>guarantee it's got the same sort of electromagnetic event.

1615
01:33:07.000 --> 01:33:10.159
<v Speaker 1>I think so too. I think these sites get energized

1616
01:33:10.239 --> 01:33:13.399
<v Speaker 1>at that time the stone there's this combination of light

1617
01:33:13.520 --> 01:33:17.439
<v Speaker 1>and stone and the intensity of the light at that

1618
01:33:17.520 --> 01:33:22.199
<v Speaker 1>time too. I don't know. It has to be something

1619
01:33:22.239 --> 01:33:26.439
<v Speaker 1>because I witnessed it firsthand at Jock o'kenyon. And even

1620
01:33:26.520 --> 01:33:29.039
<v Speaker 1>when you go like every summer solstice we would visit

1621
01:33:29.279 --> 01:33:32.560
<v Speaker 1>a megalithic chamber, winter solstice, we would go to the

1622
01:33:32.600 --> 01:33:36.119
<v Speaker 1>winter solstice megalithic chamber where are all these alignments, And

1623
01:33:36.840 --> 01:33:39.840
<v Speaker 1>there's a feeling that you get that stays with you

1624
01:33:39.960 --> 01:33:42.640
<v Speaker 1>for days after you go to those sites on those

1625
01:33:42.640 --> 01:33:47.760
<v Speaker 1>specific celestial events, which it's very positive. As a matter

1626
01:33:47.800 --> 01:33:49.279
<v Speaker 1>of fact, when I lived in New York, if my

1627
01:33:49.399 --> 01:33:51.560
<v Speaker 1>daughter and I were ill, we would drive up to

1628
01:33:51.680 --> 01:33:53.600
<v Speaker 1>I would drive up to the chambers and just sit

1629
01:33:53.640 --> 01:33:56.039
<v Speaker 1>in the chambers with her to just try to just

1630
01:33:56.119 --> 01:33:58.760
<v Speaker 1>get the energy of the stones and try to heal.

1631
01:33:58.960 --> 01:34:02.399
<v Speaker 1>I mean, and it works. I mean, it does work.

1632
01:34:02.479 --> 01:34:05.279
<v Speaker 1>It's not like working like taking night quill, but it's

1633
01:34:05.319 --> 01:34:09.239
<v Speaker 1>definitely working like alleviating your symptoms and getting you better faster.

1634
01:34:09.479 --> 01:34:15.319
<v Speaker 1>But and and it's very spiritual and energetic too. So yeah,

1635
01:34:15.399 --> 01:34:17.680
<v Speaker 1>I think there's I think, like, you know, just going

1636
01:34:17.680 --> 01:34:20.439
<v Speaker 1>back to the earlier discussion, there's definitely a healing that's

1637
01:34:20.479 --> 01:34:22.199
<v Speaker 1>involved with this light and Stone.

1638
01:34:22.319 --> 01:34:26.680
<v Speaker 2>I think I'm actually I'm supposed to, uh, you know,

1639
01:34:26.880 --> 01:34:30.079
<v Speaker 2>I spoke to somebody today. I forgot his name. Some

1640
01:34:30.119 --> 01:34:32.479
<v Speaker 2>guy is supposed to be pretty much following around and

1641
01:34:32.600 --> 01:34:35.279
<v Speaker 2>like filming stuff at Mount Pilot. I'm gonna be going

1642
01:34:35.279 --> 01:34:38.359
<v Speaker 2>to a Mountain Pilot for the Solstice. And he was

1643
01:34:38.399 --> 01:34:39.680
<v Speaker 2>telling me the same thing that if you have the

1644
01:34:39.760 --> 01:34:42.159
<v Speaker 2>chance to like take off your your shoes and actually

1645
01:34:42.239 --> 01:34:45.319
<v Speaker 2>stand on that ship for a minute, she's're supposed to

1646
01:34:45.359 --> 01:34:49.119
<v Speaker 2>actually heal you. But yeah, I'm able to go there

1647
01:34:49.159 --> 01:34:51.920
<v Speaker 2>for the summer solstice. Will be there tomorrow at this point,

1648
01:34:51.960 --> 01:34:54.159
<v Speaker 2>actually at this time, will be there. I think you

1649
01:34:54.199 --> 01:34:58.000
<v Speaker 2>mentioned Scott Walter from what I was told, he's supposed

1650
01:34:58.039 --> 01:35:00.600
<v Speaker 2>to be there and I'm something I don't know specific,

1651
01:35:00.880 --> 01:35:04.119
<v Speaker 2>something he's doing Tuesday. I'm supposed to film him actually

1652
01:35:04.119 --> 01:35:06.359
<v Speaker 2>doing something. Oh wow, yeah Mount Pilot.

1653
01:35:06.439 --> 01:35:09.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Yeah, he's a Summit.

1654
01:35:09.520 --> 01:35:12.439
<v Speaker 2>Now, yeah, because yeah, the Cosmic Summit. Yeah, yeah, that's what. Yeah,

1655
01:35:12.680 --> 01:35:14.000
<v Speaker 2>I should have just said that, the proably would have

1656
01:35:14.000 --> 01:35:14.479
<v Speaker 2>made more sense.

1657
01:35:14.920 --> 01:35:18.000
<v Speaker 8>Is it Violet Mountain in outside of West of Salem,

1658
01:35:18.079 --> 01:35:18.840
<v Speaker 8>North Carolina.

1659
01:35:19.680 --> 01:35:21.279
<v Speaker 2>I think it's in Greensboro. I don't know where.

1660
01:35:21.640 --> 01:35:23.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, yeah, then that's.

1661
01:35:23.439 --> 01:35:25.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm coming from Greenville. I have no I I just

1662
01:35:25.039 --> 01:35:26.680
<v Speaker 2>to know where I'm going on the GPS.

1663
01:35:27.359 --> 01:35:30.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah that's I think he's there now at the

1664
01:35:30.840 --> 01:35:33.239
<v Speaker 1>Cosmic Summit, so that would make sense. So yeah, so

1665
01:35:33.279 --> 01:35:36.520
<v Speaker 1>you'll see Scott. Yeah, he was here last year. I

1666
01:35:36.560 --> 01:35:40.560
<v Speaker 1>think it was with Haley, his girlfriend. So they were

1667
01:35:40.600 --> 01:35:43.680
<v Speaker 1>here and we hung out for like I guess we're

1668
01:35:43.680 --> 01:35:46.680
<v Speaker 1>here for five days. But I took him to some sites.

1669
01:35:46.760 --> 01:35:49.399
<v Speaker 1>He was blown away. He was really impressed.

1670
01:35:50.039 --> 01:35:52.159
<v Speaker 2>I think he's supposed to do something about the Knights Templars.

1671
01:35:52.279 --> 01:35:54.159
<v Speaker 2>I could be wrong. Again, this is what the person's

1672
01:35:54.199 --> 01:35:55.479
<v Speaker 2>telling me. You know who knows.

1673
01:35:55.760 --> 01:35:58.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's wrapped up with the Knights Templar. There were

1674
01:35:58.479 --> 01:36:01.039
<v Speaker 1>no there, I don't. I mean, we have a rescousion

1675
01:36:01.159 --> 01:36:04.439
<v Speaker 1>society here, the rescoushion of the Freemasons have so many

1676
01:36:04.640 --> 01:36:10.199
<v Speaker 1>of their lodges and the meeting places here. The whole

1677
01:36:10.199 --> 01:36:16.399
<v Speaker 1>island is riddled with secret societies. He wanted to try

1678
01:36:16.439 --> 01:36:19.039
<v Speaker 1>to tie the Templars into it. I don't know if

1679
01:36:19.039 --> 01:36:21.520
<v Speaker 1>he ever came up with it. I don't study enough

1680
01:36:21.560 --> 01:36:23.640
<v Speaker 1>about the Templars. If they come up, they come up,

1681
01:36:23.680 --> 01:36:27.920
<v Speaker 1>but I don't dismiss it. But it is interesting that

1682
01:36:28.000 --> 01:36:31.279
<v Speaker 1>we also have and he is a Freemason, so that's

1683
01:36:31.359 --> 01:36:32.279
<v Speaker 1>also interesting.

1684
01:36:32.800 --> 01:36:36.399
<v Speaker 8>Well, secret societies have a way of just finding these places.

1685
01:36:36.000 --> 01:36:41.119
<v Speaker 1>Don't they exactly exactly, especially with giant bones exactly.

1686
01:36:41.560 --> 01:36:42.960
<v Speaker 8>They're funny.

1687
01:36:43.000 --> 01:36:46.079
<v Speaker 1>Hear about giant bones. There's a secret society involved too.

1688
01:36:46.840 --> 01:36:49.720
<v Speaker 4>The Knights Templar were the ones who started the Order

1689
01:36:49.760 --> 01:36:53.520
<v Speaker 4>of the Golden Circle, yes, after the Civil War, and

1690
01:36:53.600 --> 01:36:55.880
<v Speaker 4>they went down to Aruba as well. So you've got

1691
01:36:55.880 --> 01:37:01.279
<v Speaker 4>that huge connection of like the fleeg Southeritors the Caribbean.

1692
01:37:02.159 --> 01:37:07.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we have what these freemason I guess, I don't

1693
01:37:07.920 --> 01:37:10.560
<v Speaker 1>know what you call it a meeting house. I don't

1694
01:37:10.560 --> 01:37:14.680
<v Speaker 1>know the technical term. We have lodge, Yes, thank you.

1695
01:37:14.720 --> 01:37:18.720
<v Speaker 1>They're the highest order, like the Temple of the Sun.

1696
01:37:18.920 --> 01:37:22.319
<v Speaker 1>So I guess that's thirty third degree in higher So

1697
01:37:22.920 --> 01:37:25.199
<v Speaker 1>we have Yeah, I have one right by my house.

1698
01:37:25.199 --> 01:37:27.680
<v Speaker 1>They're scattered all over the island. I think we have

1699
01:37:27.800 --> 01:37:31.560
<v Speaker 1>six of them. And then right on the beach is

1700
01:37:31.600 --> 01:37:36.880
<v Speaker 1>the Rescrution Lodge. And my ex boyfriend, who was an archaeologist,

1701
01:37:36.960 --> 01:37:41.239
<v Speaker 1>is a rescrusion. So it's interesting that the archaeologist is

1702
01:37:41.239 --> 01:37:45.279
<v Speaker 1>the rescrution. Don't forget Anthony Fauci's also a rescrution. So

1703
01:37:46.319 --> 01:37:51.199
<v Speaker 1>interesting how these gatekeepers seem to always be in our

1704
01:37:51.239 --> 01:37:55.279
<v Speaker 1>face and really determining what we can hear, what we

1705
01:37:55.319 --> 01:37:58.079
<v Speaker 1>can learn, and what we can know. So it's a

1706
01:37:58.159 --> 01:37:59.239
<v Speaker 1>strange connection.

1707
01:37:59.479 --> 01:38:03.079
<v Speaker 5>But yeah, very aspect of life, yes, for sure.

1708
01:38:03.399 --> 01:38:08.720
<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's always a gatekeeper. So yeah, So the archaeologist,

1709
01:38:08.760 --> 01:38:11.399
<v Speaker 1>he is an active rescutionion. His father was the president

1710
01:38:11.520 --> 01:38:16.640
<v Speaker 1>of the Rescritioni Society. He was the Caribbean Islands only pathologist,

1711
01:38:17.640 --> 01:38:21.600
<v Speaker 1>which is also interesting. So he would also do autopsies

1712
01:38:21.640 --> 01:38:26.319
<v Speaker 1>on the ancient skeletons that they found. So I always

1713
01:38:26.319 --> 01:38:28.359
<v Speaker 1>tried to get a lot of information out of them,

1714
01:38:28.800 --> 01:38:31.720
<v Speaker 1>thankfully from the archaeologists, I did. From the father, he's

1715
01:38:31.760 --> 01:38:34.479
<v Speaker 1>a little older, he's in his eighties this late eighties,

1716
01:38:34.520 --> 01:38:37.520
<v Speaker 1>so his mind was a little bit all over the place.

1717
01:38:37.600 --> 01:38:40.880
<v Speaker 1>But if you go in their house, it's filled with

1718
01:38:41.000 --> 01:38:47.399
<v Speaker 1>rescution symbolism and poems, and they're really it's like going

1719
01:38:47.439 --> 01:38:50.760
<v Speaker 1>into like the house of the lodge of RESCRUTIONI, I

1720
01:38:50.800 --> 01:38:53.920
<v Speaker 1>mean os all over the place. Is very odd, but

1721
01:38:54.600 --> 01:38:58.079
<v Speaker 1>it's interesting because that is that really defines who they are.

1722
01:38:58.319 --> 01:39:00.760
<v Speaker 1>You know that that's the place from which they come.

1723
01:39:01.359 --> 01:39:05.680
<v Speaker 1>And so so that's actually the scary part about it.

1724
01:39:05.840 --> 01:39:07.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, how much more do they know that we

1725
01:39:07.920 --> 01:39:08.319
<v Speaker 1>don't know?

1726
01:39:09.000 --> 01:39:10.479
<v Speaker 2>Some thing I want to I want to ask. This

1727
01:39:10.520 --> 01:39:13.079
<v Speaker 2>is such a random, weird question. And it's only because

1728
01:39:13.079 --> 01:39:17.159
<v Speaker 2>it was something that I noticed myself seeing because I

1729
01:39:17.199 --> 01:39:18.880
<v Speaker 2>stopped at a bunch of lodges when I lived in

1730
01:39:18.920 --> 01:39:22.600
<v Speaker 2>Long Island, when I lived in New York Island, me too,

1731
01:39:23.239 --> 01:39:24.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh whereabouts, if you don't mind me asking?

1732
01:39:25.399 --> 01:39:27.640
<v Speaker 1>No, sure, I grew up in Sayville and.

1733
01:39:28.279 --> 01:39:34.840
<v Speaker 2>I went to Connect question. Oh my god, wow.

1734
01:39:35.239 --> 01:39:37.720
<v Speaker 1>And then and then I moved to Seaford. So I

1735
01:39:37.800 --> 01:39:40.000
<v Speaker 1>moved here from Seaford from County.

1736
01:39:40.359 --> 01:39:43.159
<v Speaker 2>Well, all right, but uh, from going to all these

1737
01:39:43.159 --> 01:39:46.600
<v Speaker 2>Masonic lodges. This is gonna sound weird, but I somehow

1738
01:39:46.640 --> 01:39:50.239
<v Speaker 2>noticed it and then started googling other lodges, and I

1739
01:39:50.279 --> 01:39:52.720
<v Speaker 2>would start to even notice and another reason why I'm

1740
01:39:52.720 --> 01:39:54.760
<v Speaker 2>asking this because I'm assuming in a ruber it's only

1741
01:39:54.800 --> 01:39:57.239
<v Speaker 2>so big, there's only so many people there. I started

1742
01:39:57.279 --> 01:39:59.600
<v Speaker 2>noticing like maybe you'd find a town that would have

1743
01:39:59.640 --> 01:40:02.159
<v Speaker 2>like three or four lodges, which is a little weird,

1744
01:40:02.319 --> 01:40:05.319
<v Speaker 2>and for some reason, neither right next door or within

1745
01:40:05.439 --> 01:40:08.239
<v Speaker 2>blocks away there's a funeral home. And it's like, what

1746
01:40:08.279 --> 01:40:10.399
<v Speaker 2>do you need five funeral homes for when there's only

1747
01:40:10.520 --> 01:40:12.119
<v Speaker 2>a thousand people in the fucking town.

1748
01:40:12.399 --> 01:40:15.239
<v Speaker 1>Yes. Do you know by the lodge that's very close

1749
01:40:15.279 --> 01:40:17.960
<v Speaker 1>to my house, there are two funeral homes, each other

1750
01:40:18.479 --> 01:40:22.439
<v Speaker 1>literally next door to it. Literally their other lodge has

1751
01:40:22.479 --> 01:40:26.119
<v Speaker 1>a cremate, a crematorium. Yo.

1752
01:40:26.199 --> 01:40:28.760
<v Speaker 2>I covered over one hundred of them on the United States,

1753
01:40:28.800 --> 01:40:31.640
<v Speaker 2>all have a funeral home, either walking distance or right

1754
01:40:31.640 --> 01:40:32.039
<v Speaker 2>next door.

1755
01:40:32.119 --> 01:40:35.600
<v Speaker 1>Cremation was just legalized on this island. So this is

1756
01:40:35.640 --> 01:40:39.319
<v Speaker 1>a Catholic country, right, so they're not allowed to cremate

1757
01:40:39.359 --> 01:40:44.159
<v Speaker 1>the human body. They only had the cremation the crematorium

1758
01:40:44.199 --> 01:40:49.279
<v Speaker 1>set up for animals. But now they have a huge

1759
01:40:49.399 --> 01:40:52.079
<v Speaker 1>bulge because they're running out of space to bury the bodies.

1760
01:40:52.520 --> 01:40:55.359
<v Speaker 1>And you can't bury bodies in the ground here in Aruba.

1761
01:40:55.479 --> 01:40:58.840
<v Speaker 1>They have to be in like New Orleans. You know,

1762
01:40:58.920 --> 01:41:01.479
<v Speaker 1>they have to be above grind, and they're running out

1763
01:41:01.520 --> 01:41:05.720
<v Speaker 1>of rooms. So now people prefer to just cremate the bodies.

1764
01:41:05.760 --> 01:41:08.520
<v Speaker 1>So now all these crematoriums are cropping up, and there

1765
01:41:08.600 --> 01:41:11.520
<v Speaker 1>are Masonic temples literally on the same block.

1766
01:41:11.800 --> 01:41:15.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what I noticed, I was like filming a bunch

1767
01:41:15.239 --> 01:41:17.520
<v Speaker 2>of FM because I was just I was trying to

1768
01:41:17.560 --> 01:41:20.680
<v Speaker 2>see like that, the architecture, just anything about these buildings

1769
01:41:20.720 --> 01:41:23.399
<v Speaker 2>are significant. And as I was editing all of them.

1770
01:41:24.119 --> 01:41:25.840
<v Speaker 2>As I'm editing all of them, I'm like, yo, like

1771
01:41:25.960 --> 01:41:27.640
<v Speaker 2>or even as I'm walking, I'm like, yo, at a

1772
01:41:27.680 --> 01:41:29.840
<v Speaker 2>funeral home, Wasn't there a funeral home over by so

1773
01:41:29.880 --> 01:41:31.039
<v Speaker 2>and so on? As I saw it, going through all

1774
01:41:31.039 --> 01:41:33.159
<v Speaker 2>the footage, I'm like, why is there a funeral home

1775
01:41:33.199 --> 01:41:34.880
<v Speaker 2>home next to these Masonic lodges?

1776
01:41:35.520 --> 01:41:36.600
<v Speaker 1>That's exactly Yeah.

1777
01:41:36.600 --> 01:41:39.039
<v Speaker 2>I just started googling lodges and then the funeral homes

1778
01:41:39.039 --> 01:41:41.000
<v Speaker 2>in the area, and I'm like, right next to each other.

1779
01:41:41.520 --> 01:41:44.119
<v Speaker 1>They're right next to each other. Yes, yes, same here.

1780
01:41:44.479 --> 01:41:47.319
<v Speaker 1>And and it's a ruma. It's so far away, it's

1781
01:41:47.479 --> 01:41:49.439
<v Speaker 1>over two thousand miles away. It's the same.

1782
01:41:50.800 --> 01:41:53.520
<v Speaker 4>It's a final destination for all these human traffickings.

1783
01:41:53.640 --> 01:41:57.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's part of the tunnel system, is connecting all

1784
01:41:57.600 --> 01:41:58.359
<v Speaker 2>those things.

1785
01:41:58.680 --> 01:42:02.359
<v Speaker 1>Yes, right, exactly, Yeah, that's very interesting absolution.

1786
01:42:02.560 --> 01:42:04.600
<v Speaker 2>Yes, the funeral home, that's cool. I was just like,

1787
01:42:04.640 --> 01:42:06.680
<v Speaker 2>what's the odds you're even going to realize that? But

1788
01:42:06.720 --> 01:42:07.159
<v Speaker 2>that's great.

1789
01:42:07.279 --> 01:42:09.840
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, once you said, because you said, like you said,

1790
01:42:09.840 --> 01:42:12.960
<v Speaker 1>it's a small island. So right away the first one

1791
01:42:12.960 --> 01:42:13.960
<v Speaker 1>I picked, why.

1792
01:42:13.880 --> 01:42:16.000
<v Speaker 2>Do we need Why do we need ten funeral homes?

1793
01:42:17.520 --> 01:42:22.439
<v Speaker 1>It's very because and it's funny because there are only

1794
01:42:22.479 --> 01:42:24.920
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and ten thousand people on the island, Like

1795
01:42:25.000 --> 01:42:26.079
<v Speaker 1>how many people are dying?

1796
01:42:26.159 --> 01:42:27.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's right. It's like, yo, if you need that many,

1797
01:42:28.000 --> 01:42:29.760
<v Speaker 2>you're going to go extinct. I guess, right.

1798
01:42:32.119 --> 01:42:35.800
<v Speaker 1>Exactly. I mean why there's so many doesn't even make sense.

1799
01:42:36.279 --> 01:42:38.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's why I'm always saying, how do these

1800
01:42:38.000 --> 01:42:40.479
<v Speaker 1>things stay in business? I mean there's one person who

1801
01:42:40.520 --> 01:42:42.520
<v Speaker 1>dies a month. I mean, you know, thank god.

1802
01:42:42.680 --> 01:42:46.640
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, yeah, I mean did I ask you rub question?

1803
01:42:47.279 --> 01:42:48.000
<v Speaker 1>Sure? Please?

1804
01:42:48.680 --> 01:42:53.359
<v Speaker 4>What about that case about kurk Vander whatever? The guy

1805
01:42:53.399 --> 01:42:54.359
<v Speaker 4>what was what.

1806
01:42:54.279 --> 01:43:00.199
<v Speaker 1>Was you're in vander suit? Yes? Yeah, it's crazy. His

1807
01:43:00.239 --> 01:43:03.199
<v Speaker 1>mother taught at my daughter's school. She was an art teacher.

1808
01:43:03.359 --> 01:43:05.479
<v Speaker 1>He went to my daughter's school. I mean, this was

1809
01:43:05.560 --> 01:43:08.239
<v Speaker 1>like a yeah, no, he was His father was believed

1810
01:43:08.279 --> 01:43:12.520
<v Speaker 1>to be a freemason as well, and so yeah, I mean,

1811
01:43:13.479 --> 01:43:16.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It still haunts the island to this day.

1812
01:43:17.359 --> 01:43:20.439
<v Speaker 1>I don't think she's alive at all. You know, at

1813
01:43:20.439 --> 01:43:23.520
<v Speaker 1>this point, I think, you know, something terrible did happen

1814
01:43:23.600 --> 01:43:27.600
<v Speaker 1>to her, and I think involves human trafficking. Aruba is

1815
01:43:27.640 --> 01:43:30.880
<v Speaker 1>a human trafficking hub. If you look on the CIA

1816
01:43:31.039 --> 01:43:34.760
<v Speaker 1>or State Department website, it's one of the first warnings

1817
01:43:34.800 --> 01:43:39.960
<v Speaker 1>that they give, especially for young people putting drugs in

1818
01:43:40.000 --> 01:43:45.600
<v Speaker 1>your drinks at these clubs serving underage people. Aruba has

1819
01:43:45.640 --> 01:43:48.640
<v Speaker 1>one of the lowest ages of consent in the entire globe.

1820
01:43:48.680 --> 01:43:52.239
<v Speaker 1>It's fifteen years old. So you have to like with

1821
01:43:52.279 --> 01:43:55.479
<v Speaker 1>my daughter, I have teenage daughter. I mean, I don't care.

1822
01:43:55.600 --> 01:43:58.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm so strict with her. I don't care at all.

1823
01:43:58.560 --> 01:44:00.600
<v Speaker 1>I said, when you get to be my age, you

1824
01:44:00.640 --> 01:44:04.359
<v Speaker 1>will understand exactly why I'm being the strict with you.

1825
01:44:04.560 --> 01:44:08.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, I'm very very conservative with her. You know,

1826
01:44:08.760 --> 01:44:11.079
<v Speaker 1>some of her friends are going out and drinking already.

1827
01:44:11.119 --> 01:44:14.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, they also have no drinking age. Essentially, So

1828
01:44:16.520 --> 01:44:20.359
<v Speaker 1>it's a yeah, it's a it's definitely a place where

1829
01:44:20.399 --> 01:44:22.000
<v Speaker 1>you have to watch out. As a matter of fact,

1830
01:44:22.039 --> 01:44:25.960
<v Speaker 1>I had friends come into town and you know, friends

1831
01:44:25.960 --> 01:44:28.439
<v Speaker 1>of friends, and I saw them and they said, oh,

1832
01:44:28.479 --> 01:44:31.399
<v Speaker 1>our kids are they're teenagers. Oh they're going to this club.

1833
01:44:31.399 --> 01:44:33.960
<v Speaker 1>In this club, I'm like, tell them be careful, especially

1834
01:44:33.960 --> 01:44:36.680
<v Speaker 1>the girls. You got to if you forget, you leave

1835
01:44:36.720 --> 01:44:39.000
<v Speaker 1>your drink and you go to the bathroom, you come back,

1836
01:44:39.079 --> 01:44:41.439
<v Speaker 1>throw away the drink. Don't worry about the money, don't

1837
01:44:41.600 --> 01:44:45.159
<v Speaker 1>you know. That's a thing that happens here. A lot

1838
01:44:45.199 --> 01:44:48.680
<v Speaker 1>of these guys would work with the bartenders, so they

1839
01:44:48.720 --> 01:44:51.199
<v Speaker 1>knew where to bring in the girls and then where

1840
01:44:51.199 --> 01:44:54.119
<v Speaker 1>they could drug them. They could film snuff films like

1841
01:44:54.199 --> 01:44:55.039
<v Speaker 1>a lot of evil.

1842
01:44:55.079 --> 01:44:57.000
<v Speaker 6>You got to get a can you just got to

1843
01:44:57.039 --> 01:45:00.479
<v Speaker 6>get something that's like literally skilleder something.

1844
01:45:00.680 --> 01:45:03.920
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's probably those two.

1845
01:45:04.520 --> 01:45:08.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly, because it's an it's an operation here. It's

1846
01:45:08.279 --> 01:45:14.600
<v Speaker 1>a it's a very organized operation. So and and they're powerful,

1847
01:45:14.840 --> 01:45:17.239
<v Speaker 1>so you have to really and the law isn't on

1848
01:45:17.279 --> 01:45:20.439
<v Speaker 1>your side. I mean, if you're fifteen years old, and yeah,

1849
01:45:20.600 --> 01:45:23.560
<v Speaker 1>that's it. That's the age of consent. That's it. It's

1850
01:45:23.600 --> 01:45:26.319
<v Speaker 1>literally I think it's the youngest age of a consent

1851
01:45:26.720 --> 01:45:29.600
<v Speaker 1>except for like one of the Arabic nations or something.

1852
01:45:29.680 --> 01:45:33.479
<v Speaker 1>It's like really, but that's something that you know, you

1853
01:45:33.560 --> 01:45:36.319
<v Speaker 1>have to think about too. So that's that case still

1854
01:45:36.359 --> 01:45:38.760
<v Speaker 1>haunts the island. It will always haunt the island.

1855
01:45:39.199 --> 01:45:44.640
<v Speaker 8>Is it like a government secret societies and they're all

1856
01:45:44.680 --> 01:45:45.439
<v Speaker 8>working together?

1857
01:45:46.720 --> 01:45:50.680
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think yeah, a lot of the government officials

1858
01:45:50.760 --> 01:45:53.359
<v Speaker 1>are in the secret society, so I would I would

1859
01:45:53.399 --> 01:45:56.960
<v Speaker 1>say yes. Also, you know, I mean we're right by

1860
01:45:57.000 --> 01:46:02.560
<v Speaker 1>South America, you know, by cartel activity, drug activity. It's

1861
01:46:02.760 --> 01:46:06.039
<v Speaker 1>it's a major jumping off point for all things like

1862
01:46:06.239 --> 01:46:08.920
<v Speaker 1>really evil in the world. Sadly, so at the.

1863
01:46:09.319 --> 01:46:14.359
<v Speaker 4>Thirty second degree of freemasonry makes you a brother with

1864
01:46:14.600 --> 01:46:18.159
<v Speaker 4>all of the pirates at sea. They've been behind drug

1865
01:46:18.399 --> 01:46:22.239
<v Speaker 4>trafficking operations, human trafficking operation since the beginning.

1866
01:46:22.880 --> 01:46:27.079
<v Speaker 2>You know, there's another weird question, but sorry, like kind

1867
01:46:27.079 --> 01:46:30.039
<v Speaker 2>of it's on the same thing. But rotary club you

1868
01:46:30.079 --> 01:46:31.119
<v Speaker 2>have you noticed any of those?

1869
01:46:32.319 --> 01:46:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Of course, we have a rotary club.

1870
01:46:34.079 --> 01:46:36.920
<v Speaker 2>You gotta have your boats. They have boats in there

1871
01:46:36.960 --> 01:46:37.399
<v Speaker 2>from me.

1872
01:46:38.840 --> 01:46:42.000
<v Speaker 1>Anyways, in the in the center of the town and

1873
01:46:42.159 --> 01:46:43.920
<v Speaker 1>around yourself. I have a picture of it. It's on

1874
01:46:43.920 --> 01:46:47.239
<v Speaker 1>my social media, a picture of me standing in front

1875
01:46:47.319 --> 01:46:52.159
<v Speaker 1>of a monolithic stone that they took from one of

1876
01:46:52.199 --> 01:46:55.199
<v Speaker 1>the rock formations here where there were two monoliths. One

1877
01:46:55.239 --> 01:46:57.960
<v Speaker 1>is on the ground broken and the other one they took.

1878
01:46:58.159 --> 01:47:01.520
<v Speaker 1>They literally took. I even asked the arch i'llgist and

1879
01:47:01.560 --> 01:47:03.720
<v Speaker 1>they put it in the center of town. And that's

1880
01:47:03.760 --> 01:47:07.359
<v Speaker 1>their like monument, the Rotary Club monument. Is this ancient

1881
01:47:07.479 --> 01:47:10.720
<v Speaker 1>stone that they took from this temple complex here in

1882
01:47:10.760 --> 01:47:14.760
<v Speaker 1>the Ruba moved it. So, yes, the Rotary Club of

1883
01:47:14.960 --> 01:47:15.880
<v Speaker 1>Aruba is here.

1884
01:47:16.439 --> 01:47:19.199
<v Speaker 2>Lions Club too. Let's throw that club as well, if you.

1885
01:47:19.119 --> 01:47:24.079
<v Speaker 1>Don't, of course, yes we do.

1886
01:47:25.920 --> 01:47:28.960
<v Speaker 4>Spot They probably all come down from the States and

1887
01:47:29.039 --> 01:47:31.000
<v Speaker 4>do whatever they want to down there, have the big

1888
01:47:31.039 --> 01:47:33.680
<v Speaker 4>conference whatever it's anything.

1889
01:47:33.560 --> 01:47:38.439
<v Speaker 6>A big sigil, yeah, whatever.

1890
01:47:38.560 --> 01:47:41.920
<v Speaker 3>Exactly in the giant bones they.

1891
01:47:41.880 --> 01:47:46.560
<v Speaker 2>Set right, well, wonder if that has something to do

1892
01:47:46.600 --> 01:47:52.920
<v Speaker 2>with it. Absolutely odd fellows have like bones in their temples.

1893
01:47:53.119 --> 01:47:56.439
<v Speaker 6>Supposed you know, the help in the marrow and all

1894
01:47:56.479 --> 01:47:57.319
<v Speaker 6>that saying.

1895
01:47:58.000 --> 01:47:59.920
<v Speaker 5>You know, that's a path.

1896
01:48:00.159 --> 01:48:02.560
<v Speaker 4>It's always been a sex cult. That's what they're doing

1897
01:48:02.560 --> 01:48:07.000
<v Speaker 4>in there. They're doing strange stuff with those bones.

1898
01:48:07.039 --> 01:48:11.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you I know it's interesting that, you know,

1899
01:48:11.239 --> 01:48:14.119
<v Speaker 1>we're on an island that had giant giant.

1900
01:48:13.880 --> 01:48:15.199
<v Speaker 5>I call it a boner.

1901
01:48:16.079 --> 01:48:20.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I had to do it. At least a female

1902
01:48:20.800 --> 01:48:21.439
<v Speaker 2>could get away with that.

1903
01:48:21.680 --> 01:48:28.199
<v Speaker 5>Sorry, I'm gonna say it, but I was waiting for you, Julia.

1904
01:48:29.399 --> 01:48:32.560
<v Speaker 7>You know, I am the foulest one.

1905
01:48:35.079 --> 01:48:37.399
<v Speaker 8>You got to wonder too, if any of this stuff

1906
01:48:37.479 --> 01:48:40.760
<v Speaker 8>is a remnant of like so, so Julia talked about

1907
01:48:40.800 --> 01:48:45.159
<v Speaker 8>like maybe the Egyptians were Atlanteans, and then he let's

1908
01:48:45.159 --> 01:48:48.720
<v Speaker 8>talks about the Canaanite Phoenicians coming over here. So like

1909
01:48:48.760 --> 01:48:53.319
<v Speaker 8>if and that's all in the Mediterranean, You've got like Egypt,

1910
01:48:53.880 --> 01:48:57.920
<v Speaker 8>Middle East, and Mesopotamia all meet right there on that sea.

1911
01:48:58.560 --> 01:49:00.439
<v Speaker 8>And we know that they were coming over here.

1912
01:49:01.119 --> 01:49:01.760
<v Speaker 1>We're starting to.

1913
01:49:01.760 --> 01:49:03.920
<v Speaker 8>Find all those ships and everything else. They were coming

1914
01:49:04.000 --> 01:49:06.199
<v Speaker 8>in the copper mines. Of course, they were coming over here.

1915
01:49:06.239 --> 01:49:09.159
<v Speaker 8>So did they come and did they bring their pagan

1916
01:49:09.399 --> 01:49:11.920
<v Speaker 8>religion with them? And is there a remnant of that

1917
01:49:12.159 --> 01:49:14.079
<v Speaker 8>still lingering on these islands?

1918
01:49:15.039 --> 01:49:17.760
<v Speaker 1>That's yeah, that's a great that's a great question. Yeah,

1919
01:49:17.800 --> 01:49:20.319
<v Speaker 1>for sure, because they were definitely over here. I mean,

1920
01:49:20.640 --> 01:49:22.960
<v Speaker 1>we know for sure that people were traveling by boat.

1921
01:49:23.520 --> 01:49:26.520
<v Speaker 1>So that's very that's very possible.

1922
01:49:26.680 --> 01:49:31.000
<v Speaker 6>Yes, continue, the elites really liked to go on Onalysis's

1923
01:49:31.079 --> 01:49:34.199
<v Speaker 6>boat and hide out the logs as well.

1924
01:49:34.279 --> 01:49:34.479
<v Speaker 1>Well.

1925
01:49:34.680 --> 01:49:38.079
<v Speaker 4>The Pathive Soul's religion was transmitted by the Manoans, and

1926
01:49:38.119 --> 01:49:42.279
<v Speaker 4>the Manoan civilization really took that the religion everywhere they went,

1927
01:49:42.439 --> 01:49:44.640
<v Speaker 4>and so you find a lot of it in North

1928
01:49:44.640 --> 01:49:48.319
<v Speaker 4>America and probably with the with the giants as well,

1929
01:49:48.439 --> 01:49:50.960
<v Speaker 4>So I mean that's probably where they picked it up from.

1930
01:49:51.279 --> 01:49:54.720
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, the Manoans had an island with filled with caves

1931
01:49:54.760 --> 01:49:55.319
<v Speaker 8>beneath it.

1932
01:49:56.239 --> 01:50:03.199
<v Speaker 1>Oh that, Yeah, I didn't know that. That's Amazingians.

1933
01:50:03.520 --> 01:50:04.520
<v Speaker 4>It's the same group.

1934
01:50:04.640 --> 01:50:05.079
<v Speaker 2>They just.

1935
01:50:07.680 --> 01:50:11.600
<v Speaker 7>It's definitely the same group because even in Peru, the

1936
01:50:11.680 --> 01:50:14.520
<v Speaker 7>elongated giant skulls that they found.

1937
01:50:14.239 --> 01:50:16.560
<v Speaker 3>In Peru, they're all redheaded.

1938
01:50:17.359 --> 01:50:20.039
<v Speaker 7>You know, it's like, why do they all have similar

1939
01:50:20.680 --> 01:50:25.479
<v Speaker 7>physical features? But are you guys big Donovan fans at all?

1940
01:50:25.560 --> 01:50:27.760
<v Speaker 7>Do you listen to Donovan.

1941
01:50:28.720 --> 01:50:32.000
<v Speaker 3>Head listen to you? Do you know that Atlantis?

1942
01:50:32.199 --> 01:50:33.399
<v Speaker 2>Yes?

1943
01:50:33.840 --> 01:50:38.079
<v Speaker 7>They literally he literally talks about how Atlantis knew, you know,

1944
01:50:38.319 --> 01:50:41.760
<v Speaker 7>it could foresee its fate. So it sent out ships

1945
01:50:41.800 --> 01:50:45.119
<v Speaker 7>in seven different directions and they made little capital cities

1946
01:50:45.279 --> 01:50:48.760
<v Speaker 7>all over the world, and they spread their culture and

1947
01:50:48.840 --> 01:50:51.640
<v Speaker 7>their anyways. I know it's just a song, but I

1948
01:50:51.720 --> 01:50:53.880
<v Speaker 7>really do think something like that happened.

1949
01:50:53.920 --> 01:50:55.239
<v Speaker 3>I think that they they.

1950
01:50:55.079 --> 01:50:59.359
<v Speaker 7>Set up like workshops all over the place, and you

1951
01:50:59.479 --> 01:51:01.520
<v Speaker 7>know they did that.

1952
01:51:01.680 --> 01:51:04.439
<v Speaker 4>Theory is confirmed. That's the real problem is like the

1953
01:51:04.439 --> 01:51:06.640
<v Speaker 4>more you know about this stuff and you see how

1954
01:51:06.680 --> 01:51:10.840
<v Speaker 4>it all spread out, it's all these very similar motifs

1955
01:51:10.920 --> 01:51:13.039
<v Speaker 4>being transmitted all the way across the world.

1956
01:51:13.119 --> 01:51:15.680
<v Speaker 1>That had to be that and something that no one's

1957
01:51:15.720 --> 01:51:18.199
<v Speaker 1>bringing up with the Naska mummies, you know, the ones

1958
01:51:18.239 --> 01:51:20.359
<v Speaker 1>that that I don't know. I think you guys did

1959
01:51:20.359 --> 01:51:23.880
<v Speaker 1>a show about the mummies, the three fingered Maska mummies

1960
01:51:24.840 --> 01:51:28.560
<v Speaker 1>that they had these implants, right, they have these implants.

1961
01:51:28.600 --> 01:51:35.159
<v Speaker 1>The pokis, the elongated skulls of Paracas also had implants,

1962
01:51:35.199 --> 01:51:38.119
<v Speaker 1>And I'm wondering is there a connection? And I no

1963
01:51:38.119 --> 01:51:40.479
<v Speaker 1>one has brought that up, but I know I believe it's.

1964
01:51:40.520 --> 01:51:44.800
<v Speaker 1>Doctor Stephen Greer is now down in Peru and he's

1965
01:51:44.880 --> 01:51:49.159
<v Speaker 1>doing testing on the implants. The metal of the implants

1966
01:51:49.439 --> 01:51:54.960
<v Speaker 1>in the Colombian sphere that just crash landed that has

1967
01:51:55.039 --> 01:51:59.760
<v Speaker 1>all that strange writing on it that they've deciphered in

1968
01:52:00.439 --> 01:52:04.319
<v Speaker 1>to have some like message about higher consciousness. He's he's

1969
01:52:04.359 --> 01:52:08.239
<v Speaker 1>going down there with NASA scientists to study the metal

1970
01:52:08.399 --> 01:52:11.640
<v Speaker 1>of the sphere and also the metal of the implants

1971
01:52:11.680 --> 01:52:16.159
<v Speaker 1>of the Nasca mummies. So I would love if you

1972
01:52:16.159 --> 01:52:19.000
<v Speaker 1>would also connect it, if it could be connected to

1973
01:52:19.039 --> 01:52:23.560
<v Speaker 1>the implants in the elongated skulls of the Parakas mummies,

1974
01:52:23.600 --> 01:52:26.800
<v Speaker 1>because it's the same thing. I mean, I saw those

1975
01:52:26.880 --> 01:52:30.079
<v Speaker 1>and when I was in Lima, Peru, I saw the skulls.

1976
01:52:30.119 --> 01:52:32.199
<v Speaker 1>I have pictures of it actually my social media of

1977
01:52:32.239 --> 01:52:35.439
<v Speaker 1>the of the implants in their in their heads and

1978
01:52:35.479 --> 01:52:39.119
<v Speaker 1>their teeth and their the back of their head. I

1979
01:52:39.119 --> 01:52:42.520
<v Speaker 1>mean it's bizarre. I mean implants that are totally healed

1980
01:52:42.640 --> 01:52:46.680
<v Speaker 1>and completely stuck if fused into the bone. It's just

1981
01:52:47.239 --> 01:52:49.680
<v Speaker 1>absolutely bizarre. And I kept trying to figure out what

1982
01:52:49.800 --> 01:52:51.359
<v Speaker 1>would be the purpose.

1983
01:52:51.520 --> 01:52:54.119
<v Speaker 5>Of school voice the skull technology.

1984
01:52:54.279 --> 01:52:57.079
<v Speaker 1>Yes, right, exactly.

1985
01:52:57.439 --> 01:53:00.319
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's like I mean those earphones now and you

1986
01:53:00.319 --> 01:53:02.000
<v Speaker 6>can buy like, yeah, it's a real.

1987
01:53:02.319 --> 01:53:07.279
<v Speaker 4>Think about the Aztec piercings, right, the Aztecs had piercings

1988
01:53:07.319 --> 01:53:09.880
<v Speaker 4>all over that could have been a memory of that

1989
01:53:09.960 --> 01:53:11.720
<v Speaker 4>same sort of implant.

1990
01:53:11.560 --> 01:53:17.479
<v Speaker 7>Like an homage, right, like something that they had consciousness.

1991
01:53:17.560 --> 01:53:25.920
<v Speaker 5>What if it's their consciousness. So interesting, very interesting, weird. Yeah,

1992
01:53:26.000 --> 01:53:27.000
<v Speaker 5>that's crazy cool.

1993
01:53:28.520 --> 01:53:30.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, anybody were using the.

1994
01:53:30.079 --> 01:53:33.680
<v Speaker 8>Copper for that too, just like connecting like they were.

1995
01:53:33.840 --> 01:53:36.960
<v Speaker 8>They think that they were putting copper on top of

1996
01:53:37.000 --> 01:53:39.800
<v Speaker 8>the mounds over here in North America. And it's a

1997
01:53:39.840 --> 01:53:42.840
<v Speaker 8>similar concept, I think to the tips of the pyramids,

1998
01:53:42.840 --> 01:53:45.439
<v Speaker 8>because the pyramid tips used to be different or coated

1999
01:53:45.479 --> 01:53:47.960
<v Speaker 8>in gold or some substance, and it was able to

2000
01:53:49.560 --> 01:53:52.079
<v Speaker 8>signals and frequencies and all that were able to travel.

2001
01:53:53.520 --> 01:53:58.039
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, exactly, I agree.

2002
01:53:58.359 --> 01:54:00.720
<v Speaker 5>Very interesting one of these.

2003
01:54:00.800 --> 01:54:03.920
<v Speaker 6>I was trying to look while you were speaking about

2004
01:54:03.960 --> 01:54:07.720
<v Speaker 6>the Isosceles triangle because it was driving me insane, and

2005
01:54:07.800 --> 01:54:09.760
<v Speaker 6>so I was just trying to like go down a

2006
01:54:09.800 --> 01:54:13.560
<v Speaker 6>little rabbit hole there. And it does talk about the

2007
01:54:13.600 --> 01:54:19.399
<v Speaker 6>connection between worlds with this representation on occultism, So that

2008
01:54:19.439 --> 01:54:22.520
<v Speaker 6>would make a whole lot of sense if you're if

2009
01:54:22.520 --> 01:54:25.640
<v Speaker 6>you've got you know, something in you to store and

2010
01:54:25.800 --> 01:54:28.159
<v Speaker 6>the connection to the higher realm.

2011
01:54:28.359 --> 01:54:30.239
<v Speaker 5>That was what I was talking about. I didn't know

2012
01:54:30.399 --> 01:54:33.199
<v Speaker 5>right implants, So that's yeah, Yeah.

2013
01:54:33.159 --> 01:54:35.800
<v Speaker 1>The implants are fascinating to me. I can't wait to

2014
01:54:35.840 --> 01:54:37.479
<v Speaker 1>hear I hope we hear the results.

2015
01:54:37.560 --> 01:54:41.399
<v Speaker 5>You know, you never really agreer. He can't be trusted.

2016
01:54:42.079 --> 01:54:47.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean that's a rabbit hole, and we never

2017
01:54:47.159 --> 01:54:50.000
<v Speaker 1>hear anything about it again, and you won't even go.

2018
01:54:50.199 --> 01:54:53.920
<v Speaker 6>You know, they're doing all these big hearings right now,

2019
01:54:54.000 --> 01:54:56.239
<v Speaker 6>and he's like, I'm sorry, I have a sniffle, I

2020
01:54:56.279 --> 01:54:58.520
<v Speaker 6>can't come. And then they showed him at some like

2021
01:54:58.720 --> 01:55:02.399
<v Speaker 6>place where he was taught wucking and they're like, clearly.

2022
01:55:02.039 --> 01:55:05.119
<v Speaker 5>You're not sick, and they just have been doing this

2023
01:55:05.199 --> 01:55:05.600
<v Speaker 5>on and on.

2024
01:55:05.880 --> 01:55:12.039
<v Speaker 1>Exactly. Yes, it was very disheartening, but someone Yeah, you

2025
01:55:12.159 --> 01:55:14.600
<v Speaker 1>never know, but most likely we'll never find out.

2026
01:55:16.479 --> 01:55:20.279
<v Speaker 2>Hope you can compare it. It would be great. I'm sorry,

2027
01:55:20.439 --> 01:55:21.560
<v Speaker 2>So I hope you do, so you can at least

2028
01:55:21.560 --> 01:55:22.800
<v Speaker 2>compare it to your stuff. That would be great.

2029
01:55:23.000 --> 01:55:23.920
<v Speaker 5>Yes, exactly.

2030
01:55:24.840 --> 01:55:25.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's what.

2031
01:55:25.520 --> 01:55:29.159
<v Speaker 6>Maybe they'll leak out something and we can run with it. Yeah,

2032
01:55:29.960 --> 01:55:32.319
<v Speaker 6>and we can figure it out the hell of us.

2033
01:55:32.880 --> 01:55:36.439
<v Speaker 6>You us, everybody just go on a mission. Yeah, anybody

2034
01:55:36.439 --> 01:55:36.880
<v Speaker 6>out there?

2035
01:55:38.760 --> 01:55:39.319
<v Speaker 1>Exactly.

2036
01:55:40.359 --> 01:55:42.800
<v Speaker 2>Yes, did anybody have any other questions? I guess, Well,

2037
01:55:42.800 --> 01:55:44.680
<v Speaker 2>it's almost too hot. Was actually a little longer.

2038
01:55:44.479 --> 01:55:46.199
<v Speaker 5>Than I thought it great, Yeah, yeah, I was.

2039
01:55:46.439 --> 01:55:48.000
<v Speaker 2>If anything, maybe get you back on in the future.

2040
01:55:48.039 --> 01:55:50.479
<v Speaker 5>Put down a rabbit hole with your ice aucles triangle.

2041
01:55:50.560 --> 01:55:56.359
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, yeah, I was really surprised to hear as much

2042
01:55:56.399 --> 01:55:58.920
<v Speaker 2>as I did, and I was surprised how much I

2043
01:55:58.920 --> 01:56:01.079
<v Speaker 2>guess you were into other things that we talked about.

2044
01:56:01.479 --> 01:56:03.279
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't expecting all that.

2045
01:56:03.520 --> 01:56:07.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, definitely. So yeah, anytime, I'd love to come

2046
01:56:07.319 --> 01:56:10.319
<v Speaker 1>back on. Yeah, it's just fun. It's great speaking with

2047
01:56:10.359 --> 01:56:13.840
<v Speaker 1>you all. You're very knowledgeable, and I appreciate.

2048
01:56:13.279 --> 01:56:14.640
<v Speaker 2>It, of course, No, thank you.

2049
01:56:14.640 --> 01:56:17.479
<v Speaker 6>It's nice to decompress, right with, like you said, with

2050
01:56:17.560 --> 01:56:19.840
<v Speaker 6>other people that get it, because like my family just.

2051
01:56:19.800 --> 01:56:23.920
<v Speaker 5>Looks at me like I have out of my ears exactly.

2052
01:56:24.279 --> 01:56:27.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I don't even try to explain it anymore. You know,

2053
01:56:27.279 --> 01:56:30.039
<v Speaker 1>it's anyway everything I say comes true anyway.

2054
01:56:30.119 --> 01:56:33.680
<v Speaker 5>So there you think, Well, you got a good track record.

2055
01:56:33.720 --> 01:56:40.479
<v Speaker 2>There you go. Sorry, No, you're good, all right. Yeah,

2056
01:56:40.479 --> 01:56:42.439
<v Speaker 2>so I guess we'll wrap it up now. I'll let

2057
01:56:42.479 --> 01:56:44.840
<v Speaker 2>everybody plug their shows again and then heather on, we're done.

2058
01:56:44.840 --> 01:56:47.680
<v Speaker 2>You can you let everybody know where they can find you, Julia,

2059
01:56:47.960 --> 01:56:49.840
<v Speaker 2>what is up? Please? Let everybody know again where they

2060
01:56:49.840 --> 01:56:50.760
<v Speaker 2>can find you. Amazing work.

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01:56:52.279 --> 01:56:55.520
<v Speaker 7>Some asshole also known as my husband is mowing the

2062
01:56:55.600 --> 01:56:57.920
<v Speaker 7>grass right now, so I hope you can't hear it,

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01:56:58.000 --> 01:57:02.520
<v Speaker 7>but a cosmic Peach podcast wherever you listen to podcasts. Heather,

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<v Speaker 7>it was so amazing to meet you and to listen

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<v Speaker 7>to your amazing research.

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<v Speaker 5>I was away.

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<v Speaker 3>You kicked my.

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<v Speaker 7>Ass today, loved it, loved every minute of it. Thanks

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<v Speaker 7>so much, Nick for letting me be a part of

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<v Speaker 7>this one.

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<v Speaker 2>Hell yeah no, this was again, like everything that you

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<v Speaker 2>just said was mind blowing. And thank you for joining us.

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<v Speaker 2>And tell Kolby, I said, what's up? And I miss him?

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<v Speaker 6>Hi, I will, I'll tell him he's an asshole for

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<v Speaker 6>Juliet No, just kidding. No, I am Heidy, love of

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<v Speaker 6>the Unfiltered Rise. I'm everywhere podcasts are served. I'm happy

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<v Speaker 6>to be part of the occult rejects. Happy to be

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<v Speaker 6>here as always. And Heather, you were just fascinating. I

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<v Speaker 6>appreciate you so much, Thank you, thank.

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<v Speaker 2>You, Thank you very much, Heidi for joining it. I

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate it. And we got Tim Constantine from sixth Century

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<v Speaker 2>Podcasts what was going on?

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, hey, happy to be here again.

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<v Speaker 8>This was great. My podcast, sixth Centsury Podcast is on Spotify, app,

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<v Speaker 8>with YouTube and Patreon. Thanks Nick, thanks all the other

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<v Speaker 8>rejects here. Everybody brought something awesome to the table, especially Heather.

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<v Speaker 1>Heather, thank you.

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<v Speaker 8>This was great.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you yeah, definitely, thank you very much Tim for

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<v Speaker 2>making it. I was excited when I saw you pop up,

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<v Speaker 2>so I appreciate it and we got Headless Giant.

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<v Speaker 4>You can find me in just a little while. We're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna go live on the Headless Magical mail Bag. If

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<v Speaker 4>you have a scary or occult story, or if you

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<v Speaker 4>have a mall dream, if you've got a dream about

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<v Speaker 4>a mall that's like post apocalyptic, I want to hear

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<v Speaker 4>about it.

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<v Speaker 1>You send me an email at.

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<v Speaker 4>Headless Giant Podcast at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you, Yes, Headless Giant Podcast. That's it. There's

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<v Speaker 2>no ciphering, no just decrypting anything steady. Thank you so much,

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<v Speaker 2>Neflix and finally, Heather, please again, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Like everybody said, you blow our minds. There was so

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<v Speaker 2>many things I did not think we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about that we did and it was amazing and we

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<v Speaker 2>got to have you back on in the few CUCA. Heather,

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<v Speaker 2>please let everybody know where they can fund you.

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff great. Thank you so much, You're so great. Being here.

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<v Speaker 1>Please follow me on all social platforms at Heather l Arnold.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you are coming to Aruba, I know someone

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<v Speaker 1>coming to Aruba. I do give tours and you can

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<v Speaker 1>contact me on my social media. My tour company is

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<v Speaker 1>called Ancient Aruba Tours.

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<v Speaker 2>Awesome and thank you again so much, and thank you

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<v Speaker 2>all for joining me as well. And that is the

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<v Speaker 2>end of another record reject until the next one. Everybody

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<v Speaker 2>be well later.
