Speaker 1: In the eend, the eend in the name relative Natti,
Speaker 1: the name.
Speaker 2: M again.
Speaker 3: And reporting, we got some want or something growing on
Speaker 3: out here.
Speaker 2: Do you think like that?
Speaker 3: Go O, know it did. My vendor light came on
Speaker 3: and I did that. But they went and they running
Speaker 3: across the yard. Not a good sight or nothing.
Speaker 2: I looked like a man.
Speaker 3: I don't know what it was across the yard.
Speaker 4: It seems to be a big foot leaning against a
Speaker 4: tree in a wooden area. I have seen.
Speaker 5: Plenty of people with big feet, but not bigfoot.
Speaker 2: Tree minds and rush.
Speaker 6: He sees about a seven and seven and a half
Speaker 6: foot tall sasquatch looking back at him, and that.
Speaker 2: Kind of looks like a wolf, but not like a
Speaker 2: neighborhood dog. Pick these stores for what they are and
Speaker 2: hopes that maybe I, if it's out there, don't show me. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and says he might have caught the mythical Cuba cabra
Speaker 2: creature terrorizing his chickens. It's like a grunt and a knock.
Speaker 4: It's like a oh.
Speaker 2: I think there's kind of a cultural tendency for people
Speaker 2: to want to make big Foot a quote unquote monster.
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Speaker 2: crypto researcher. There is allowed name. Let's see. Hopefully it's
Speaker 2: not too many of the name off here. But you
Speaker 2: know what, I might need my glasses on this one here,
Speaker 2: hold on, yeah, because I'm going blind, I'm getting I'm
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Speaker 2: never heard of him?
Speaker 7: Uh, Chad Lewis, Adam Davies, Bartonley h David Weatherly Uh.
Speaker 2: Oh in this name. I know this name so well.
Speaker 2: I know who the guy is, but I'm probably Butcher's name,
Speaker 2: trying to pronounce it. Al Jander, I don't know, I
Speaker 2: don't know. Yeah, I've seen him on documentaries and everything.
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Speaker 2: this is by Kenny Irish. There is an introduction by
Speaker 2: for those who know mister Ronald Murphy. I think Ronald
Speaker 2: is based out of I could be wrong. I want
Speaker 2: to say Kentucky or Tennessee, one of the surrounding states,
Speaker 2: somewhere around there. But yeah, it's a pretty good The
Speaker 2: only part I read was the chapter about me. I
Speaker 2: want to see how it came out. So, yeah, that
Speaker 2: was cool. Were you surprised, Well, no, I knew I was.
Speaker 2: I knew I was going to be in there because
Speaker 2: he sent me all the questions that he wanted me
Speaker 2: to respond to, and then plus he added my bio
Speaker 2: in there, so I knew I was going to be
Speaker 2: in there.
Speaker 8: Were surprised by what you read about yourself?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I didn't know I did that or see that,
Speaker 2: or yeah, I just.
Speaker 9: Was it just a paragraph for the sever pages?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, my well yeah, my chapter starts from page
Speaker 2: fifty seven up to sixty eight, so there's a few
Speaker 2: page design Yeah. So yeah, so yeah that was pretty cool.
Speaker 2: You know, there's another gentleman who did something I believe
Speaker 2: he did along similar lines. I'm not gonna try to
Speaker 2: remember his name, but on Facebook and even on Instagram
Speaker 2: he goes by the big Foot, the Bigfoot Influencer. I
Speaker 2: think that was part of the name of his book
Speaker 2: as well. Bigfoot Influencers is a book as well where
Speaker 2: it talks about various people behind research and all that
Speaker 2: good stuff. So yeah, so yeah, enough of that. Like
Speaker 2: I told, for those who tuned in last night, if
Speaker 2: you're here again, it looks like we have there's actually
Speaker 2: there's actually a couple of different ones on here that
Speaker 2: I'm not recognizing. Uh well, actually I yeh t w
Speaker 2: t oh Justice Fike, you for subscribing. Yeah, Robert Gandovin
Speaker 2: I know him and Sasquatch's secret for those who don't know, Yes,
Speaker 2: that's Nikky. She's on the chat too. So yeah, so
Speaker 2: m here, yeah, yeah, I have How would how is Henry?
Speaker 2: By the way, he's good.
Speaker 4: He's good. He still has shows and occasionally you'll come
Speaker 4: on my show.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, last time, I mean last time I've ever
Speaker 2: seen any of the thing from him is like, you know,
Speaker 2: he'll react to some of my post on occasions, but
Speaker 2: that's about it. I haven't spoken to him in a
Speaker 2: long time. Yeah, because back when we used to be
Speaker 2: on looking for Bigfoot News Hour podcast and uh with
Speaker 2: the what's the kid's name?
Speaker 4: Sean?
Speaker 2: Remember was it Shawn.
Speaker 4: Sean, wasn't it?
Speaker 2: No? I don't think it was Shane Shane. Yeah. I
Speaker 2: had a figure second think maybe it's somewhere close to Sean,
Speaker 2: but yeah, Shane Shane Bradbury. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You
Speaker 2: know why he stopped doing that all together? If I
Speaker 2: recall correctly, I think he met a girl. And yeah,
Speaker 2: he met a girl. I think that was a big
Speaker 2: part of it, and he didn't want I guess he
Speaker 2: didn't want no connection to fall back or like you know, like, hey,
Speaker 2: I'm involved with Bigfoot podcast. You know I'm gonna leave
Speaker 2: us alone so I could be with this girl. Basically,
Speaker 2: I think it is what happened. Yeah, let's see who
Speaker 2: else we got here. I'm just looking over to the
Speaker 2: light chat. For those who are on the love Chat.
Speaker 2: One of questions, if you have any questions whatsoever, don't
Speaker 2: don't hesitate to throw them out there. Well, I mean
Speaker 2: I'll read off the question and you know, and we'll
Speaker 2: try our best to address it and uh and go
Speaker 2: from there. But since we are just getting into this,
Speaker 2: so I haven't really dealt with Nicky in a long time.
Speaker 2: She's been busy with her own podcast, and and I'm
Speaker 2: sure some of you guys are followers and subscribers to her.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I want to welcome you guys here. Awesome
Speaker 2: to have you. But like I told Nikky earlier, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna probably put her excuse me, I'm gonna put her
Speaker 2: on on the spot. I just want to ask her
Speaker 2: if she can kind of pill us in what's the
Speaker 2: latest gossip of what she's been digging into lately about.
Speaker 10: You know, it's a big community comes around, it's a
Speaker 10: big revolving so a lot of old hoaxes and a
Speaker 10: lot of old photos videos get pulled back into the
Speaker 10: community with a whole new storyline, with the whole new.
Speaker 4: Place that you know it happened at. So it happens.
Speaker 4: It happens all the time. And and I just try
Speaker 4: to tell Nope, that's not what that is. That is
Speaker 4: our favorite Sonny Vader at it again. He's constantly having
Speaker 4: out there of that blue looking sasquatch he has, and
Speaker 4: you know, the same ones come up over and over again,
Speaker 4: Mark Anders and and a bunch of others, and it's
Speaker 4: just about I try to let them know, you know, hey, Nope,
Speaker 4: that's not what that is. And I have documents to
Speaker 4: prove that. I'm just like the mission BCD. You know
Speaker 4: that one happened where it's a it's a far off
Speaker 4: view and it kind of looks like this sasquatch is
Speaker 4: stepping off of a log far off and people just
Speaker 4: have a you know, love that that video. But it's
Speaker 4: not a sasquatch. I'm sad to say it's Brandon Polock
Speaker 4: was out there gathering firewood. And we know that because
Speaker 4: he said that was him. He confirmed it with him,
Speaker 4: he confirmed where his boat was in regards to that area,
Speaker 4: and our own Thomas Steinberg. If those of you who
Speaker 4: are out there who don't know who Thomas Stemberg are,
Speaker 4: he is. He is a great kind of this researcher
Speaker 4: mission in BC Canada, and he tracked it down. He
Speaker 4: tracked the guy down and got the full statement and
Speaker 4: proved that, you know, that was a guy not a sasquatch.
Speaker 4: So well, that constantly comes up, and our own Rick
Speaker 4: Dyer is back at it again.
Speaker 2: Are you.
Speaker 4: I had I interviewed Rick. I was one of the
Speaker 4: first to interview Rick Dyer about his hoaxes and had
Speaker 4: him on the year after that, but he swore he
Speaker 4: was he was done, you know, he was done with
Speaker 4: the bigfoot stuff, this and that, And then TikTok came
Speaker 4: along and he started up again talking about all of
Speaker 4: his nonsense. And about a week ago I think now
Speaker 4: he says that he has he got his team Team
Speaker 4: Tracker back in full swing and he's already caught Bigfoot
Speaker 4: on a trail cam. Oh my, that's going to be
Speaker 4: something that we're going to have to keep an eye
Speaker 4: out for here in the near future. Is that he
Speaker 4: made several let's say, interesting comments trying to make it
Speaker 4: seem like they caught it. Really he has another Bigfoot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you.
Speaker 4: Go ahead.
Speaker 2: Oh I'm sorry. I was just gonna say, well, what's
Speaker 2: going to hurt him? If? I mean, it just goes
Speaker 2: for anybody that's likes to pull fast one. And I hope,
Speaker 2: you know, the hoax people, there might be an opportunity
Speaker 2: or a time where you might actually capture the real deal.
Speaker 2: But if you try to go to show for people,
Speaker 2: if you get if you develop a history of coaching,
Speaker 2: you know, it's like crying wolf, who's gonna believe you, you know, right,
Speaker 2: you know, that's the way I look at it. I mean,
Speaker 2: what if he does capture the real deal? And no,
Speaker 2: you know, for those who do know him, like us,
Speaker 2: because he's been hoped since two thousand and eight, you know,
Speaker 2: two thousand and eight up to twenty twelve, and then
Speaker 2: of course back in round what fourteen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's going on and throughout that. But yeah, he's
Speaker 4: confessed to all that. Of course, he says he really
Speaker 4: had a big foot, but it was taken by the
Speaker 4: men in black, Okay, So what they did was, you know,
Speaker 4: put that costume in the freezer and froze it and
Speaker 4: that's how that all happened. But he says there really
Speaker 4: was one. We found one of the you know, on
Speaker 4: the side of the creek there, and he says that
Speaker 4: pretty much about all of his hoaxes though. But behind
Speaker 4: the scenes, behind my original interview with him, after it
Speaker 4: was over and in the back, he confessed that it
Speaker 4: was all bullshit. He told us everything was bullshit and
Speaker 4: that he can get anybody, you know, to believe him. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm fifty eighty grand on that first folks. He made
Speaker 4: one hundred and over, one hundred and fifty sixty thousand
Speaker 4: on the second hoax. And it's business. And if you're
Speaker 4: willing to pay people you know.
Speaker 2: Today, oh yeah, that's.
Speaker 4: Your your hard earned money.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't really be given that to something like that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that one of the things you talked about.
Speaker 2: Like a lot of these what we're we've been familiar with.
Speaker 2: We've seen them on and off over the years. The
Speaker 2: name one or two. One of the ones I see
Speaker 2: repeating and come around again is the Beacon Bigfoot. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that shoal today at my news feed from a group
Speaker 2: that was posted and somebody shared this and and I
Speaker 2: simply commented, that's from a movie that's not real. That's
Speaker 2: all cost him blah blah blah, And they're like, oh
Speaker 2: what movie. Then I shared them a couple of my
Speaker 2: old screenshots of the one was from an article with
Speaker 2: the pictures, and then I showed him some other stuff. Okay,
Speaker 2: the people that saw that like, oh, well, thank you
Speaker 2: for sharing this, you know. Yeah what there was something
Speaker 2: else too, Maybe it'll come to me in a little bit,
Speaker 2: But there was another thing that was posted or I
Speaker 2: seen in resurface.
Speaker 4: Yeah, come back around and everything, you know, I took
Speaker 4: a deep dive into that Beacon Bigfoot hoax and found
Speaker 4: out that it was Ron English who actually did that film,
Speaker 4: and it was just a student film for his son
Speaker 4: and with the family of Bigfoot, you know, of stuffed bigfoots. Okay,
Speaker 4: they were all fake and they just posed them out
Speaker 4: there in the wilderness and took a bunch of shots.
Speaker 4: And now people think there's a baby Bigfoot on mama's back.
Speaker 4: You know, I have pictures of it, you know, display
Speaker 4: case display, you know, at one of his expos because
Speaker 4: he he's a pop pop artist in New York and
Speaker 4: he has them out on display. So yeah, but people
Speaker 4: don't want to believe that. No, that's a baby, that's nope.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that well that reminds me, well you said, you see, yeah,
Speaker 2: he's got pictures of them in display cases. Well, you know,
Speaker 2: there's other images of all the Bigfoot characters using those
Speaker 2: images of film. Are also there's scenes of them in
Speaker 2: like a building, in an office or or like a
Speaker 2: studio area kind of you know. Yeah, so yeah, people
Speaker 2: need to see that too. But but talk about a
Speaker 2: Bigfoot with a baby, Oh, go ahead.
Speaker 4: People, there'll still be people won't believe it. Oh, that
Speaker 4: looks that's not right or and I'm like, no, that's
Speaker 4: the same one. That's the same thing. He's got the
Speaker 4: whole family, mom, dad, the juvenile that everybody calls chaka when.
Speaker 4: And then there's another with the mom and the baby
Speaker 4: on the back, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well talk about yeah what was it? Was it
Speaker 2: the Independence Day or whatever? That one little video clip
Speaker 2: they show what appears to be a big foot holding
Speaker 2: running with its baby in its arms from behind the rock. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's another one. I see that one popping up a
Speaker 2: lot lately too. And uh huh.
Speaker 4: I was just gonna say that one got recent traction
Speaker 4: because of thinker Funker and to say the whole thing
Speaker 4: is real.
Speaker 2: What he's saying that was real. Yeah, all right, this
Speaker 2: is just my quick two cents on that one. I mean,
Speaker 2: I've watched that video clip numerous times. But to me,
Speaker 2: there's a red there's a red flag, and that red
Speaker 2: flag to me is okay may or. First of all,
Speaker 2: maybe that big put was trying to hide and panic
Speaker 2: and decided I'm going to get up and run. To me,
Speaker 2: it was like a movie scene, like action. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: now time to be seen. Let's go run and show
Speaker 2: myself off. That's what I get from that. That's the
Speaker 2: vibe I get from that.
Speaker 4: So if you really look at the film, you can
Speaker 4: see the camera lead off before the Bigfoot even starts
Speaker 4: to run right, well, you know, kind of indicates that.
Speaker 4: And somebody you brought it to my attention that they
Speaker 4: can see me the velcrow right here on the front
Speaker 4: of the Bigfoot where the hand is supposed to be
Speaker 4: for the baby, right, and it does. It looks like
Speaker 4: a strip of velcrow right here on the on the front.
Speaker 4: And oh there's a yeah, that are red flags about
Speaker 4: that thing?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that one there. I mean, as far as taking it,
Speaker 2: I don't know to pick that up it was. It's blurry.
Speaker 2: It's kind of blurry for me to really notice all that.
Speaker 2: So I don't know. That's interesting that somebody was able
Speaker 2: to on their own pick that out. I don't know. Interesting. Well,
Speaker 2: let's see TWT I have. I've had trail cameras out
Speaker 2: for twelve years. Never a hit put out vintage thirty
Speaker 2: five millimeters mechanical cameras with fish line trip wire at
Speaker 2: seven feet nothing for a year. Huh Okay, that's interesting.
Speaker 2: I mean, well, well, you know what me and David
Speaker 2: talk about sometimes when we go out there, when we
Speaker 2: do investigations and stuff. I mean, we're always testing out
Speaker 2: new equipment. We're trying things out, but we want to
Speaker 2: have you know, we we try to come up with ideas,
Speaker 2: see what might work and what if anything produces. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we hear the different vocalizations and stuff out there. But look,
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, if there's an idea, if it's
Speaker 2: something within our ability, I'm sure, you know, if we
Speaker 2: come up with it again, if we're able to do it,
Speaker 2: I'm sure we'll try it if it sounds like a
Speaker 2: good idea. But in like in the area we're camping
Speaker 2: and investigating now, you know, we definitely plan on doing
Speaker 2: some uh some stakeouts and out in the woods. You know,
Speaker 2: it depends on who all wants to participate. If we
Speaker 2: can set up in teams, you know, I'm sure we're
Speaker 2: gonna have some people sitting back at base camp, you know, uh,
Speaker 2: but anyone else that wants to participate in that, like,
Speaker 2: you know, if there's other couples or anyone that wants
Speaker 2: a team up with somebody, you know, we won't be
Speaker 2: too far apart, but spread out enough in a certain
Speaker 2: general area and you know, see what we might pick
Speaker 2: up and record. You know, we'll have our fermerals, our
Speaker 2: night vision audio equipment, you know, you know kind of
Speaker 2: do you know that kind of thing, because you know,
Speaker 2: I've never actually done a natural stakeout in the woods before.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, most of the time, most of
Speaker 2: the stuff I've ever done at night was maybe do
Speaker 2: a group hike at night or uh just basically stay
Speaker 2: at stay around the base camp itself, you know, they
Speaker 2: just listen. But but yeah, I would like to get
Speaker 2: out more away from the camp area and get actually
Speaker 2: more a little a little further into the woods, you know,
Speaker 2: because you know, everything we hear sounds like it's not
Speaker 2: that far off. So let's put ourselves out there where
Speaker 2: we're hearing everything, you know, and see what might turn
Speaker 2: up or if anything gets curious enough to come in closer.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we need at least two man teams to go
Speaker 5: out to be mind, I think be perfect.
Speaker 9: At least at least two man teams or women.
Speaker 5: And yeah, the more teams who have out there and
Speaker 5: more coverage, so you know, the better success might have
Speaker 5: on coming up with something or at least something a little different.
Speaker 5: After after dark, especially all hours of the night like
Speaker 5: that by himself, bears or anything like that. But you know,
Speaker 5: we do have the snakes and everything else that come
Speaker 5: out after night pretty much when they're prowling around hunting
Speaker 5: for the prey and everything. But two man teams that
Speaker 5: where everybody's comfortable and just stagger out. We have scattered
Speaker 5: out to throughout. You know, we're gonna put everybody and
Speaker 5: stuff like that. But I think it'll be interesting to
Speaker 5: be something different to do and try.
Speaker 2: Oh for sure. I think the big starting point, David,
Speaker 2: is at the gate where where the park lot is
Speaker 2: at the gate. Maybe go up on that little ridgeline there.
Speaker 2: I think that general area right there might be a
Speaker 2: good starting point conservating. That's where was it Paul what's
Speaker 2: what's his name, Paul his white Yeah, yeah, sure, yeah
Speaker 2: where she had said she seen what she saw there,
Speaker 2: and of course yeah, so yeah, Nikki, you give you
Speaker 2: a little background on there. During our back camp out,
Speaker 2: our last camp out back in October, there was you know,
Speaker 2: we had our normal average group there, but it was
Speaker 2: like probably the last day a lot of us were
Speaker 2: packing up leaving the couple. There was a couple that
Speaker 2: came down from Pennsylvania. They came down a little later,
Speaker 2: so they were there, still there for another night or two. However, Yeah,
Speaker 2: the couple they decided to go down towards the gate
Speaker 2: and they wanted to I guess they want to go
Speaker 2: walk into a little hike down to the where the
Speaker 2: lake is in the area, and uh, well I didn't.
Speaker 2: I didn't learn about this until I think like later
Speaker 2: that day or the next day. But long story short,
Speaker 2: the couple came back and started talking to David and
Speaker 2: Melissa because apparently Paul's wife, Cheryl, thought she saw a
Speaker 2: bear as soon as they were pulling into the little
Speaker 2: park gravel park lot by the gate that leads.
Speaker 9: To the lake.
Speaker 2: She was looking over her shoulder. From what I recall
Speaker 2: and the way she worded it, she was looking over
Speaker 2: her shoulder as her husband was parking and over at
Speaker 2: the gate She's looking at what she saw was a
Speaker 2: bear by the tree, and all of a sudden she
Speaker 2: saw it run across the forest road into the woods
Speaker 2: on the other side. Quote on two feet you know,
Speaker 2: and for the record, this woman has she doesn't have
Speaker 2: much understanding or regulation regulation of how wildlife operates, how
Speaker 2: they maneuver, so I guess, David, if you want to
Speaker 2: kind of collaborate on this, because the other one that
Speaker 2: got to talking to her them later that day.
Speaker 5: Yeah, uh yeah, real quick, I just showed them where
Speaker 5: the gate was where they need to park to walk
Speaker 5: about maybe three quarters of a mile to the lake,
Speaker 5: which is a gravel road surrounded by the George.
Speaker 9: Warston the National Forest. As you go to the lake.
Speaker 5: We just got finished packing up man tolist them and
Speaker 5: they had come back from that walk and we stopped
Speaker 5: by to say just say bye to them and stuff,
Speaker 5: and her husband, uh, Paul says, yeah, well we just
Speaker 5: back there and we've seen a bear when we was
Speaker 5: pulling up the parking area and uh, she got to
Speaker 5: describing it. His wife did, and she was looking over
Speaker 5: her shoulder after the cab of the vehicle where the
Speaker 5: truck they were had they were driving in and seen
Speaker 5: him by the tree, and she was getting out of.
Speaker 9: The cab of the vehicle.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 9: It took off.
Speaker 5: Running across the gravel road from once from her left
Speaker 5: to her right and went down to a ravine to
Speaker 5: where there's a stream bed, and she her first impressions
Speaker 5: was it was a bear. Now she got nervous. She
Speaker 5: told her husbands she had just seen a bear run
Speaker 5: across the road. He got what he needed to get
Speaker 5: for protection wise, but they went on to continue to
Speaker 5: make the hike and when they come back, they when
Speaker 5: we met up with them when I was ready to leave,
Speaker 5: they gave us that little bit of description, and I
Speaker 5: just happened to ask her. I says, when they ran
Speaker 5: across the road, wasn't on four legs?
Speaker 9: Or two? She says two? And then her her husband
Speaker 9: looked up.
Speaker 5: And said, you didn't tell me that part was running
Speaker 5: on two legs, And she said, yeah, it just run
Speaker 5: on two legs. It probably covers roll about maybe three
Speaker 5: or four steps. Then I got to looking at her
Speaker 5: and I said, sure it was on two legs. She
Speaker 5: said yeah. And the bears don't run on two legs.
Speaker 5: I mean, they can stand up, they could semi hobble
Speaker 5: on two legs, but they can't run like a person
Speaker 5: on two legs. And when they do it's only for
Speaker 5: a short distance. When they do, you run on two
Speaker 5: legs because you know they don't have to stride.
Speaker 9: They don't have the hip structure to be able to
Speaker 9: have that heat that human does.
Speaker 5: They go from side side when they walk and you
Speaker 5: see in the affairs and all that other stuff, and
Speaker 5: they have bars for entertainment. And then she got this
Speaker 5: grid look on her face, and he got to asking
Speaker 5: her more questions, got a little bit more descriptive about
Speaker 5: what she had seen to where you just seen. She
Speaker 5: became flush because now she can't believe what she thought
Speaker 5: she may have seen may not have been what she.
Speaker 9: Thought she had seen.
Speaker 5: And we can only go about what she was saying
Speaker 5: as far as that, but I could tell by her
Speaker 5: expression that she's now had she.
Speaker 9: It phaced her?
Speaker 5: Is what had done? Now a little bit of background
Speaker 5: on them, I think she's either FBI retired.
Speaker 9: FBI wanted her to.
Speaker 5: But against She says she wasn't well versed on wildlife
Speaker 5: and a lot of their behavior and stuff. But now her
Speaker 5: husband's in the Bigfoot research and stuff like that, and
Speaker 5: I think he might be part of the FBI too,
Speaker 5: or retired.
Speaker 9: They both might be retired. I can't remember about that aspect.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I know he's military. I know he's former military.
Speaker 5: Military you are, and he's level headed about stuff like that.
Speaker 5: I mean, he's not one to go running around looking
Speaker 5: at every bush to send it's a big foot or
Speaker 5: every shadow stuff like that.
Speaker 9: I mean, he MutS proof too.
Speaker 5: He wants to keep logic behind it like we all
Speaker 5: do out there and stuff, because if you don't have
Speaker 5: to defend the proof, you have nothing. But if you
Speaker 5: think you find stuff, you gotta work backwards. He'd come
Speaker 5: to a conclusion, was it or was it not? A
Speaker 5: lot of times you may come up with well, we
Speaker 5: still don't know. But she couldn't get over that. I mean,
Speaker 5: she really became flushed after she had told us that
Speaker 5: story and said, well, I don't think it was a
Speaker 5: bear's running on two legs. And they went back that
Speaker 5: evening and said they could find any tracks and stuff
Speaker 5: because it wasn't that far from the gate, maybe twenty
Speaker 5: five thirty yards from the gate where she's seen across
Speaker 5: the road, and they looked down in the ravine, but
Speaker 5: they didn't find anything like that.
Speaker 9: But now that evening they've heard something. They've been there.
Speaker 9: I think it was the second or third night there
Speaker 9: we had left.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they had something camp.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, by their camp where the where they had
Speaker 5: their trailer up on the ridge line where Daniel had
Speaker 5: walked earlier as far as that part, but they couldn't
Speaker 5: describe what I mean.
Speaker 9: It could be anything. We got deer, we got beer,
Speaker 9: We've got a lot of stuff back there.
Speaker 5: But that made him a little uncomfortable that even though
Speaker 5: it's forth what they're hearing, because they really couldn't say
Speaker 5: it sounded familiar, it was different, and that's all you know.
Speaker 5: They could go by as far as that. But it's
Speaker 5: just amazing as some things come about out of the
Speaker 5: blue and we're all packed up and ready to go.
Speaker 5: We just spent a week out there, and it's all
Speaker 5: primitive out there. You don't have a lot of people.
Speaker 5: It's not like some of these other lakes and stuff.
Speaker 5: We have a lot of traffic in and out, people
Speaker 5: camping and whatnot. Very few people come back here at
Speaker 5: the camp. It's not an open area where the general
Speaker 5: public can drive through, so it's pretty seclusive back there.
Speaker 5: You do have some people that come, but a lot
Speaker 5: of people come back on horseback ride. But it's not
Speaker 5: like Ilkhorn Lake to where it's open to the public.
Speaker 5: They got a big lake and people go down there
Speaker 5: to swim and fish and all that other stuff. And
Speaker 5: there's a major difference between the two areas. That's why
Speaker 5: I like that area too. It's more seclusive. But that
Speaker 5: was an interesting story that they told us the stuff
Speaker 5: and just still talking about it the day. But I
Speaker 5: wish you just had more information to go by more
Speaker 5: about I mean, that's what happens, you know, things pop
Speaker 5: up spur the moment and you just try to get
Speaker 5: you know, compile the information. That's it happens, and hopefully
Speaker 5: at least to something. But again that's the area that
Speaker 5: where Daniels talking about where they gave it is. Uh,
Speaker 5: have that as an ending point at the gate and
Speaker 5: the branch off in the teams back in there because
Speaker 5: there's two ridge lines actually got the one to the
Speaker 5: left and then the one to the right. You got
Speaker 5: that little well, it's pretty big stream bed that runs
Speaker 5: back on the right hand side, and there's another ridge
Speaker 5: up there on the right hand side. So if we
Speaker 5: could saturate that area with at least three teams, one
Speaker 5: up on the ridge line there, one go further to
Speaker 5: the right across the stream bed up on the other
Speaker 5: ridge line, and then send another team down where the
Speaker 5: road crosses a stream bed that intersects with the road.
Speaker 5: And that's a pretty good area maybe I don't know what,
Speaker 5: ten minute walk, fifteen minute walk from the gate and uh,
Speaker 5: set somebody up down in that area, having like a triangle,
Speaker 5: three point triangle, et ceter that area. I think it'd
Speaker 5: be pretty interesting to see what we can come up
Speaker 5: with that evening.
Speaker 9: Maybe do it a couple of nights, you know, as
Speaker 9: far as.
Speaker 2: That, Oh absolutely, oh for sure.
Speaker 5: But we gotta have the people. But yeah, I would
Speaker 5: like to have somebody back at base camp. Uh yeah,
Speaker 5: I mean, if nothing else, just to watch the camp,
Speaker 5: because you do have some thieves that come back here
Speaker 5: and now and try to rape places. But we get
Speaker 5: into communication aspect. I would get with Daniel more on
Speaker 5: that as far as setting up a relay from base
Speaker 5: camp and then one up there by the gate that
Speaker 5: way off because the radio transmissions don't communicate through rock
Speaker 5: and ridgelines and stuff. That way, if somebody's further down
Speaker 5: the road, if they need to transmit, they could transmit
Speaker 5: to somebody by the vehicles or the gate in that area,
Speaker 5: and then they got a clear link between there on
Speaker 5: base camp.
Speaker 9: That we triangle is what it is.
Speaker 5: That way, you got full coverage as far as being
Speaker 5: able to communicate with each other at that.
Speaker 4: One point is where it gets kind of spotty.
Speaker 9: That's the rocks.
Speaker 5: So yeah, we'll go out and test all that anywhere.
Speaker 5: We're going to do it because you need to go
Speaker 5: out and test it. You got to be prepared forgot
Speaker 5: the best to set up that triangulation for clear communications
Speaker 5: with everybody further out may not hear a base camp.
Speaker 5: Base camp can't hear further out, but they can hear
Speaker 5: that middle person. They can relay information as need be.
Speaker 5: But we'll talk about all that later for as a Oh,
Speaker 5: for sure, I think we need to do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, David, you just made me think of something else too.
Speaker 2: One of the things we could do out there too,
Speaker 2: because you know, when you approach to the lake area,
Speaker 2: you know you're coming up to the top of the
Speaker 2: little hill and you're overlooking you got the lake there,
Speaker 2: and then off to you far right, it's a lot
Speaker 2: of open ground up you know, you know, you've got
Speaker 2: the whole I mean, you're surrounded by all the on
Speaker 2: the forest here, but there's a lot of open area
Speaker 2: up there by that lake. I think that would be
Speaker 2: a good area if one is set up right there
Speaker 2: just kind of hang out and chill relax with pair
Speaker 2: of all mics, with our thermals and all our good
Speaker 2: you know, give them other gadgets. I think there'll be
Speaker 2: a good, good location where audio will be picked up,
Speaker 2: like if anything vocalizing in that surrounding general area, I
Speaker 2: think we'll be able to pick it up really good
Speaker 2: out there because you know, got the whole open area
Speaker 2: and the lakes down below. Right there, we're overlooking the
Speaker 2: lake and everything. That might be another auction we can
Speaker 2: consider doing too, so especially getting position. Who knows what
Speaker 2: might show come around there when the light when the
Speaker 2: sun goes down, because we know people don't go back
Speaker 2: there at night. But you know, if we're camping in
Speaker 2: the area, we could have the whole lake for ourselves
Speaker 2: back there, you know, so.
Speaker 5: Well we have to check it out. I'd be a
Speaker 5: good feeding area for deer too. And of course if
Speaker 5: you've got feeding area for deer in an other wildlife in.
Speaker 9: That area, because they know that's where they can go to.
Speaker 9: Uh did their hunting right as far as that.
Speaker 2: So yeah, the other thing too, you know, with with
Speaker 2: Ryl's story and what she claimed the scene and after
Speaker 2: we got the understanding, okay, what she saw was on
Speaker 2: two feet. I feel that that area was credible. I mean,
Speaker 2: not not the area, but her story. I feel like
Speaker 2: there's truth there because giving the history that I've learned
Speaker 2: from others in that area or have been through the
Speaker 2: area or in the surrounding area, because that general area
Speaker 2: out there, there's mountain lion sightings. I've heard from multiple sources.
Speaker 2: I've shown I've been shown images from people, uh that
Speaker 2: have found trackways out there in that area. And then
Speaker 2: the bear. Not to mention, bear hunters have seen what
Speaker 2: they described as Harry bike eidel, you know, being sure
Speaker 2: peaking in and out behind trees, staring at them while
Speaker 2: they're out there in the woods. So I mean, I mean,
Speaker 2: come on, now, bear hunters, of all people, bear hunters
Speaker 2: are going to know it bear. I mean that's the
Speaker 2: way I was. Yeah, they're not going to mistake in
Speaker 2: a big foot for a bear. I mean, I mean,
Speaker 2: if if that was the case, they shouldn't bear hunting,
Speaker 2: you know. But so, I mean, this kind of to
Speaker 2: me adds some I feel like it adds credibility to
Speaker 2: what's happening and what's going on in this area, because
Speaker 2: we both know it's not far from West Virginia. You know,
Speaker 2: it's it's really not entirely far from West Virginia at all.
Speaker 2: And as you mentioned, it's it's fairly remote, you know.
Speaker 2: So I mean, well then you got you got the
Speaker 2: people too, Like.
Speaker 5: I'll tell Naked too is when listen. First, we've we've
Speaker 5: always been interested in paranormal We both had paranormal experiences
Speaker 5: growing up and.
Speaker 9: Stuff like that. We've always been interested in cryptis on
Speaker 9: the side.
Speaker 5: The stuff that we met Dan, you know about five
Speaker 5: years ago, we got worked up with them, Uh give
Speaker 5: us opportunity to go out and learn more about the
Speaker 5: crypt of that aspect of Bigfoot and such. And when
Speaker 5: we put on Facebook that we got involved with this
Speaker 5: group to go out and do this, we knew it
Speaker 5: was gonna get flag or feedback. I mean that's fine.
Speaker 5: You know, people's gonna you're gonna have your nay theeries.
Speaker 5: I mean I haven't seen one yet, but you're gonna
Speaker 5: have those's gonna make fun of it. We're gonna have
Speaker 5: those that take it serious. Well, when you put something
Speaker 5: back down on Facebook, you get your little comments down
Speaker 5: in the section, stuff like that, some you know whatever.
Speaker 5: But when you get two private messages off of that
Speaker 5: post and they get with you privately so other people
Speaker 5: can't see it. I think that leads a lot of
Speaker 5: credence to it too. They can they couldn't say exactly
Speaker 5: what they saw, but they gave a description of what
Speaker 5: they saw that made them very uncomfortable. And again, their
Speaker 5: their their country. Folks back here. They know bear they
Speaker 5: know all the you know, the uh foxes and and
Speaker 5: types of wildlife we have around here, coyotes and stuff
Speaker 5: like that. But for them to send you a private
Speaker 5: message so they don't put them sales out there, I
Speaker 5: think that leads a lot more credis to the possibility
Speaker 5: of something being around out there that people really are
Speaker 5: not open to talk about all that much.
Speaker 9: I mean, that's just another aspect. Well look at it too.
Speaker 5: People want to get with you privately and they don't
Speaker 5: want to be out there in the open talking about it.
Speaker 5: I think it just gets a bit more credibility to
Speaker 5: what may be going on. So that's why I look at.
Speaker 2: It, and yeah, absolutely, With that being said, one thing
Speaker 2: I would make mentioned. It seems like there's some big
Speaker 2: activity kind of stuck the flare up in Virginia itself.
Speaker 2: Within a week's time. I've had two separate reports recently.
Speaker 2: One individual has been trying to get in touch with me.
Speaker 2: They finally reached out to me and they sent me
Speaker 2: it might as well be a book. What the email
Speaker 2: they sent me with the details and the information they
Speaker 2: sent me. I mean, you probably write a book from
Speaker 2: this story.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 2: However, probably about a week before that was another story
Speaker 2: of a sighting. Now keep I re mind you the location.
Speaker 2: It is down southwest Virginia, but it's in Virginia. But
Speaker 2: the locations are probably no more than a half hour
Speaker 2: or forty five minutes apart on the north you know,
Speaker 2: again is southwest Virginia. So there is other reports, uh,
Speaker 2: like the one the one gentleman who I met his
Speaker 2: fiance She works at the bank that I go to. Uh,
Speaker 2: he's been reaching out to me more. He emails me
Speaker 2: when he's able to, and he's doing classes and got
Speaker 2: a lot going on. Uh. He has agreed when the
Speaker 2: time comes, I told him, give me the time, give
Speaker 2: me the date, what would work for you that he
Speaker 2: will talk about what he's done, you know, what he's
Speaker 2: seen over in the area that we've been working in.
Speaker 2: He's he named all these locations and it's right outside
Speaker 2: of where it's it well, more specifically, it's in between
Speaker 2: where my main research is and almost by where we've
Speaker 2: been campern At investig recently. So it's kind of like
Speaker 2: along those lines. It's almost in between all that that's
Speaker 2: all interconnected, so exactly, and not to mention, uh Dave,
Speaker 2: Dave who came out and you know, they came up
Speaker 2: and spent the day with us at camp, him and
Speaker 2: his buddy. Yeah, they heard that weird scream of that
Speaker 2: vocals that nobody understood what it was or recognized. Uh
Speaker 2: so that there was over there. What's the area called again, brady.
Speaker 9: Wine Brandywine area?
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, So yeah, like I was talking about, this
Speaker 2: is kind of like, you know, you got the Alaskan
Speaker 2: Triangle the review to time. Well, you know, I kind
Speaker 2: of like I'm developing this cluster of a lot of
Speaker 2: activity that either what I've experienced and all the little
Speaker 2: notes and reports from other people, it's all happening within
Speaker 2: a certain perimeter here in Virginia. It seems like there's
Speaker 2: a I don't know, maybe it's not quite a triangle,
Speaker 2: but it almost looks like if you look at each
Speaker 2: location and draw a line between it. It kind of
Speaker 2: does draw like almost a triangle, like there's a there's
Speaker 2: a pattern here this area is there's something going on here,
Speaker 2: you know, you know so I don't know. That to me,
Speaker 2: that makes it interesting.
Speaker 5: Two things that struck me from that, when Dave came
Speaker 5: out and I came back from the house to get
Speaker 5: more firewood stuff for us, he was there. I didn't
Speaker 5: know he was coming. I get the impression he took
Speaker 5: his time to come meet with Daniel to tell his
Speaker 5: story because something happened that made him uncomfortable. Yeah, he
Speaker 5: left his group to be able to do that. But
Speaker 5: the people in the group, one, maybe two, but at
Speaker 5: least one of them was retired law enforcement, and whatever
Speaker 5: happened struck him in such a way that now he
Speaker 5: wants to try to find out what it is. Because
Speaker 5: you know, most retired, most people of retired have level heads.
Speaker 5: You know, they know about investigation and know what to
Speaker 5: look for and how to rule things out. But whatever
Speaker 5: happened for a Dave to take his time out to
Speaker 5: come meet with you and then get one of the
Speaker 5: guys to Davis with us retired law enforcement, now he's
Speaker 5: hooked into trying to figure out what was it that transpired.
Speaker 9: That they can't explain right? And I find that I
Speaker 9: find that interesting as far as that aspect.
Speaker 5: So that's two things that's you know, that jumps out
Speaker 5: at me on that to where.
Speaker 9: It keeps the interest there.
Speaker 5: You know what's going on out there, you know, and
Speaker 5: we're all looking for answers and with stuff I guess
Speaker 5: just keeps coming forward. It just makes you want to
Speaker 5: keep getting out there to research, do your own investigations.
Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely, absolutely real quick to answer, Harold Dtton, This
Speaker 2: is Donald for those who don't know, his name is
Speaker 2: Donald Denton. But Harold, to answer your question. The two
Speaker 2: most reported sightings that I got in southwest Virginia. One
Speaker 2: was probably down around that's the area. It begins with a.
Speaker 2: I used to deliver down there quite a bit with
Speaker 2: my old company.
Speaker 4: H Man.
Speaker 2: I'll have to come back to you because I have
Speaker 2: having the hardest time today remembering locations. I know where
Speaker 2: it is. But uh, yes, thank you, Josh, thank you Abingdon. Yes,
Speaker 2: uh one of the reports were really just on the
Speaker 2: western part of Abington, thank you. Abington, Virginia is where
Speaker 2: I used to go down to all the time to deliver.
Speaker 2: But yeah, if for those who know Abad in Virginia,
Speaker 2: you guys know how royal and how wooded and country
Speaker 2: it is out there. One of the reports were right
Speaker 2: in that general area.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: The other location was probably a little bit south of Abington,
Speaker 2: a little bit from the south of Air, which is
Speaker 2: both of these location are south of Taswell, Virginia and
Speaker 2: Taswell Virginia has had reported sightings in some other weird,
Speaker 2: strange activity over the years. There's the old report where
Speaker 2: supposed you a gentleman has shot and wounded a big
Speaker 2: foot where it got drug off by another big foot,
Speaker 2: and supposed the MB showed up at that location.
Speaker 9: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I haven't really looked into that story in a long time,
Speaker 2: but yeah, the whole southwest Virginia has got some history.
Speaker 2: It's some weird crap goes on down there. But as
Speaker 2: far as the two sightings, this is recently. This is
Speaker 2: within a week apart, a week apart. And locations if
Speaker 2: you look on a map of these two locations, I
Speaker 2: have all the information and exact locations, but I don't
Speaker 2: have none of that with me. But I can recall
Speaker 2: that they were probably between thirty to forty five minutes apart,
Speaker 2: you know, as far as location wise, So yeah, Abington, Virginia.
Speaker 2: I will say that much. Abington, Virginia is the main
Speaker 2: general area where the one takes place. So the other location,
Speaker 2: let me, I'm starting to fin plant the area for
Speaker 2: those who know Route fifty, I figures is it Route
Speaker 2: fifty Yeah, run from North Carolina all the way down
Speaker 2: to across Virginia down to over towards the Abington, Virginia area.
Speaker 2: So that's another location. It's either fifty or fifty five.
Speaker 2: I'm probably getting that mixed up a little bit. Anyway,
Speaker 2: it's southwest Virginia or near the Abington location, so absolutely. Yeah. Damascus, yes,
Speaker 2: thank you. Damascus. Is that runs through there that connects
Speaker 2: over to Aberdeen. That's right, Yes, Damascus. You guys are awesome,
Speaker 2: you guys. You guys know these areas and memorize things
Speaker 2: because thank you Damascus. Yes, Damascus is an abdue well,
Speaker 2: Damascus is a little slightly north of Abingdon, right off
Speaker 2: of eighty one. So good deal. Yeah, thank you guys
Speaker 2: for jumping in on that. You guys on the lad
Speaker 2: Jack Rock. You guys kicked the butt. So yeah, so yeah, yeah, Damascus.
Speaker 2: Actually I thought that was north of Avonton. I Chrits
Speaker 2: warned it was north. Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe I'm getting
Speaker 2: things switched up because oh well, but they're all there
Speaker 2: close together. They're all in that little cluster a good deal. Hey,
Speaker 2: let's switch gears for a second here, Nikki. This one
Speaker 2: thing I haven't I haven't talked to you about in
Speaker 2: a while, and I know you showed me pictures of
Speaker 2: this over in uh. I think it was only a
Speaker 2: year maybe two years ago. You did a camp out
Speaker 2: in was it Washington State? Was it?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, I went and had my first Daniel Sasquatch
Speaker 4: dig there at Saint Helens in Washington.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: We camped down right there with Thomas Steamberg, Rent Dill,
Speaker 4: Jay Birch, Michael Gallaher, a couple other people showed up
Speaker 4: and it was great. It was a great time. Five days.
Speaker 4: On Saturday Mountain, which was the last night, that got
Speaker 4: a little crazy when all the big guys had already left.
Speaker 4: Why why does that that's a whole thing right there.
Speaker 4: Why does stuff happen on the last night when all
Speaker 4: your cameras are full, all the batteries are dead, everybody's gone.
Speaker 4: You know, all the trail cameras have been pulled down,
Speaker 4: no video was nothing was recording. You know, got kind
Speaker 4: of crazy.
Speaker 2: Well, that's the way the cookie crumbled because, like you said,
Speaker 2: some of the people had already left and broke camp
Speaker 2: and you're there with whatever. How many people will left,
Speaker 2: so the the area that can't become less intimidating for
Speaker 2: those who might want to venture in, to get curious,
Speaker 2: to come out.
Speaker 9: Curiosity.
Speaker 5: Yeah, when everything quiet down, after all the activity and stuff,
Speaker 5: even things out there, they may want to come in.
Speaker 4: It was there, but I think I don't know, it
Speaker 4: seemed pretty dead for the first four days, and then
Speaker 4: that last night we were hearing grunts and and uh
Speaker 4: motion And then something walked up to my tent that
Speaker 4: night and chot at me, and uh, I don't know
Speaker 4: what animal does that without sniffing, scratching, making any other
Speaker 4: kind of noises. And of course that's the first time
Speaker 4: that's ever happened to me. And you never know how
Speaker 4: you're going to react to something like that. Like I'm
Speaker 4: pretty I go out there in the dark and walk
Speaker 4: around and all this stuff. But when that unknown thing
Speaker 4: walked right to where my head was on my you know,
Speaker 4: from the other side of the tent, and went like that.
Speaker 4: I froze, I dead, froze, couldn't move, you know. The
Speaker 4: bear spray was gone because brand had let me borrowed.
Speaker 4: I had flown there, so everything I had I had
Speaker 4: borrowed from somebody. So when he left that day, he
Speaker 4: had taken his bear sprays with him, so I didn't
Speaker 4: have any protection. I didn't. My initial thought is that
Speaker 4: we left the garbage out and then we had a
Speaker 4: big bear in the camp. But I don't know of
Speaker 4: a bear that gets into the garbage and does to
Speaker 4: make a mess, or doesn't eat the sugar cubes on
Speaker 4: the table or the cookies that were left out, or
Speaker 4: destroy the whole table. Because we left stuff out. The
Speaker 4: only thing that was licked clean were the foil packets
Speaker 4: that we had cooked meat in that night.
Speaker 2: Ha ha interesting. Wow.
Speaker 4: The bipedal walk up to my tent and then the
Speaker 4: chaw and then it stood back up and it walked
Speaker 4: back to the garbage.
Speaker 2: M Now, when everyone else left, who was all there
Speaker 2: besides you that was left over? It was it just
Speaker 2: you and a couple others or one.
Speaker 4: Four of us still there? It was me and one
Speaker 4: tent and the and the tent. I it wasn't real tent.
Speaker 4: It was one of those ice houses where the bottom
Speaker 4: is there's no bottom. Oh yeah, yeah, Well I'm also
Speaker 4: thinking something was going to reach its hand up underneath
Speaker 4: the camp. Yeah, I was frozen. And then right next
Speaker 4: to me was Jennifer excuse me, Jennifer Watkins. And then
Speaker 4: there were a little bit of trees, and beyond that
Speaker 4: was oh my god, I forgot his name, another guy.
Speaker 4: And directly across from me was Jay Birch and his
Speaker 4: wife in their little mini trailer. They had one of
Speaker 4: those little mini nothing but you walk in and there's
Speaker 4: a little bed type trailer.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, one, but like was it like a teardrop camper.
Speaker 4: One of the older and older model, uh.
Speaker 2: Little, yeah, a little mini vintage camper. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I knew where everybody was because his trailer door made
Speaker 4: wanted noise when it opened, So I knew they were
Speaker 4: in there, you know. And I knew jen was right
Speaker 4: next to me because I could hear her and oh
Speaker 4: it almost his name almost came to me, Dakota. Dakota
Speaker 4: had a sleep apnea machine out there, and so I
Speaker 4: knew where he was, and we didn't have our radios on.
Speaker 4: Everything was dead. We had been out there for five
Speaker 4: days already. All of our cells and our power sources
Speaker 4: were pretty much dead. And my phone was almost maxed out.
Speaker 4: I had twenty minutes left, it said to record on
Speaker 4: there or fifteen or something. And after that I did
Speaker 4: manage to try to get my phone, which was charging
Speaker 4: far from me, of course, and I recorded three videos
Speaker 4: of me and my tent like Blair Witch Project with the.
Speaker 2: The tent. In thought every.
Speaker 4: And so I have three. I did not sleep that
Speaker 4: whole night. I heard, I listened to this thing walk
Speaker 4: around the camp, It went down to the creek, it
Speaker 4: came out, and finally about four or five in the morning,
Speaker 4: everything got quiet. I fell asleep, the sun started to
Speaker 4: come up, everybody started to get up. We came out.
Speaker 4: We all, uh well, the three of us in the
Speaker 4: tents had experiences that night, but the trailer no nothing
Speaker 4: from the trailer, and we walked to where the creek was.
Speaker 4: You could see the whole area was wet where something
Speaker 4: had come in and out of that water.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, I had one hundred.
Speaker 4: Percent thought, I'm gonna wake up, I'm going to find
Speaker 4: that garbage just strewn everywhere, and it wasn't It was
Speaker 4: just a few foil packets out of there, and I'm like,
Speaker 4: there's an open box of sugar cubes sitting right there
Speaker 4: on the table, and cookies and a bunch of other crap.
Speaker 4: Because we were so tired, everybody just went to bed.
Speaker 4: We didn't even think about picking up nothing. We hadn't
Speaker 4: seen any animals all week, so we got complacent and
Speaker 4: we left that garbage sitting out there full. And I
Speaker 4: also remembered hearing the pretzel bag. There was a brand
Speaker 4: new bag of pretzels sitting in the back of Jay's
Speaker 4: truck bed okay, in the back of the bed, and
Speaker 4: I remember seeing them there because I thought, ooh, in
Speaker 4: the morning, I'm gonna grab those pretzels so I can
Speaker 4: take them with me and Jen back to a hotel
Speaker 4: because we were gonna we had a hotel. And then
Speaker 4: the next morning we were both flying out of Seattle
Speaker 4: and I heard something poking at that bag. As a
Speaker 4: matter of fact, I have that bag somewhere here. They
Speaker 4: saved it. It was unmistakably that bag was Somebody was
Speaker 4: messing with that bag, and it was all the way
Speaker 4: in the back of the cab, in the back of
Speaker 4: the bed of the truck.
Speaker 2: Huh uh.
Speaker 4: But not opened, not messed with. There wasn't any fingerprints
Speaker 4: on it. There wasn't. It was just the bad they're
Speaker 4: sitting there, not crushed or messed with.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you think if there was a raccoon or
Speaker 2: even a bear they were shred of that thing or open,
Speaker 2: I would have hurt something.
Speaker 4: And if it was a bear that came up to
Speaker 4: my tent, where was the snorts, where was a you
Speaker 4: know what? Where was that? There was none of that
Speaker 4: something We've all been camping and in the tent and
Speaker 4: you somebody's on the other side of the tent. You
Speaker 4: can feel that or see kind of feel that darkness
Speaker 4: that comes towards the tent. That's what happened, you know.
Speaker 4: I could feel that something was had walked up and stopped,
Speaker 4: and it felt like an eternity. It was probably just
Speaker 4: a few seconds, but then it leaned down to where
Speaker 4: my head was on a cot and right where my
Speaker 4: head was is when it and it just stayed there,
Speaker 4: stayed there, and then it got back up and then
Speaker 4: it went off to the thing. And I was petrified.
Speaker 9: M Now night, wasn't it? You remember what about what
Speaker 9: time that was?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I have all that documented. You can find all
Speaker 4: those videos on my channel, Sasquat's Secret. If you go
Speaker 4: to the video section, you'll find the night the what
Speaker 4: did I call it? I don't know if I did
Speaker 4: call it the Sasquatch Player Night videos or something. All
Speaker 4: the times we time because every time I was talking
Speaker 4: to the video, I was uh, indicating what time it was,
Speaker 4: So I have a pretty good timeline of exactly when
Speaker 4: stuff was happening. And Jen, at one point I heard something.
Speaker 4: There was a big so one of those black toes
Speaker 4: the yellow tops on it, in the middle of Yeah,
Speaker 4: in the middle of our two tents had extra sleeping
Speaker 4: bag in there. Well, Jen had got it out and
Speaker 4: she had left the empty toe just in between our tent.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 4: At some point I thought I heard her moving her
Speaker 4: suitcase because it sounded like something dropped, and I thought, oh,
Speaker 4: what she doing moving her suitcase right now? And she
Speaker 4: thought the same thing of me the next day when
Speaker 4: I said did you move your suitcase that line? She goes, no,
Speaker 4: But I thought you moved your suitcase. And that's when
Speaker 4: we dawned on us. That we weren't hearing the suitcase.
Speaker 4: We were hearing that tod Bean drop. And Dakota later said
Speaker 4: that something moved his tent, that something had shook his tent,
Speaker 4: and that he wasn't really there for Bigfoot. He was
Speaker 4: one of our cooks. He was freaking out. He just
Speaker 4: he zoned it out and he put his seatbap on
Speaker 4: and he was out. You know, he didn't want anything
Speaker 4: to do with that miss And I had heard some
Speaker 4: murmuring or something like that. So I never heard any
Speaker 4: mumble or anything like that. Just I know something was
Speaker 4: going to the garbage. And the next day, Yes, we
Speaker 4: saw some footprints.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just about to break that up because
Speaker 2: you shared with be those footprints.
Speaker 7: If I recall and remember correctly from what I've seen,
Speaker 7: I would have to go back and look at that,
Speaker 7: back at what you said to you.
Speaker 2: But you know, my first and this was Loot. When
Speaker 2: I first glanced at him, okay, oh, they got those
Speaker 2: are bears. But then I started looking at the full images.
Speaker 2: Then then what I was paying attention to. When I
Speaker 2: started focusing more, Wait a minute, don't look like bear tracks.
Speaker 2: Those look more humanoid.
Speaker 4: But they look like they were small. They were maybe
Speaker 4: nine nine inches I think ten.
Speaker 2: What do you know of right? What you would know?
Speaker 8: Think?
Speaker 2: Okay, that you know that would probably be about a
Speaker 2: three hundred pounds bear if it wasn't bear. But they
Speaker 2: did look very humanoid. But because when I first looked down, yeah,
Speaker 2: I would think it's there. But then I started questioning
Speaker 2: my mind, like no, wait a minute, yeah.
Speaker 4: And then I had one where it was a wet track,
Speaker 4: so wet from when it came out of the water. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I wonder if I have those right here? Hold on,
Speaker 4: let me Oh wait, you can't do it that way
Speaker 4: because oh maybe I can. Let me see how far
Speaker 4: down this goes. Oh no, I don't have it there.
Speaker 4: How can I do this? Let me go to here,
Speaker 4: hm hm m m and those would be shindig Oh
Speaker 4: my god.
Speaker 3: Here?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, are you able to pull them up on here?
Speaker 2: We'll do.
Speaker 4: But let me see if I can.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to find where I put.
Speaker 2: Them, because if you do a free share of them
Speaker 2: on here, I don't know, well, I don't know if
Speaker 2: is there anything I can't remember. I haven't had the
Speaker 2: deal in a while, so it'll pop.
Speaker 4: Up down at the bottom, just like somebody's coming into
Speaker 4: your show and.
Speaker 2: Then oh I've got here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not not coming up. Hold on h.
Speaker 2: M hm hmmm, and.
Speaker 4: My pictures aren't coming out. Mhm m.
Speaker 2: Hey real quick, Well, Nikki's looking for that, David. I
Speaker 2: want to ask you real quick, the first initial gate
Speaker 2: out there by where we camp at, uh, is that
Speaker 2: gate currently locked up right now? Till when? Up till April?
Speaker 2: They don't open that up to label right.
Speaker 5: I'm thinking until April fifteenth. Okay, I know it's I
Speaker 5: came from April first or April fifteenth. I have to
Speaker 5: look at that email I got from the Park Service.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I was trying to do some research. I
Speaker 2: was going on to the forest Service area for that location,
Speaker 2: and I was gonna trying to find learn all the
Speaker 2: information I can about that area as far as when
Speaker 2: the gates open it. I couldn't find. No, they don't
Speaker 2: specify location information on are on the on the Department
Speaker 2: of Gaining Indeficialies, nothing, you know.
Speaker 5: Like that's what I had to send them an email
Speaker 5: as the content. Yeah, the gates only closed for vehicle traffic.
Speaker 5: It's open all right.
Speaker 2: That's long war, right right, Like I told you. That's
Speaker 2: what happened the first year I ever camped there, several
Speaker 2: years ago. I had to That's what I had to do.
Speaker 2: I had to park up there at the overlook area
Speaker 2: and hike all myself down to the camp area where
Speaker 2: we were camp from there, which I don't mind doing that.
Speaker 2: But the reason I'm asking, I just want to make
Speaker 2: sure because this weekend I'm gonna have some free time
Speaker 2: to come a weekend, I want to camp somewhere. It's
Speaker 2: suppusn't to be in the fifties during the day. Anyway,
Speaker 2: I'm considering trying out my car for the first time.
Speaker 2: Like I say, you know, I've been considering doing some
Speaker 2: car camping. So I'm considering car camping. But then again,
Speaker 2: I might just throw up the tent. I might eat
Speaker 2: one of my small tents. I got a very small tent.
Speaker 2: I might throw out. And uh, but I want to
Speaker 2: go camping somewhere if I have to go up from
Speaker 2: you know, up around the El Corner area, but which
Speaker 2: is totally fine for me. But so yeah, I would camp.
Speaker 2: I considered camping if nobody was to mess with my stuff,
Speaker 2: I'm mess with you know. I would park at the
Speaker 2: overlook area and just camp car camp right there. You know,
Speaker 2: that's something I consider doing, you know, and there's plenty
Speaker 2: of woods for me to walk in from there. But uh,
Speaker 2: you know, if I was to go into one area,
Speaker 2: but I don't know. I'm still trying to figure out where,
Speaker 2: you know, where I want to go, because my plan
Speaker 2: is as soon as I get off of work Friday
Speaker 2: is to head out, you know, because Caden is going
Speaker 2: to be Uh the plan is he's supposed to go
Speaker 2: to his other grand mother's house for the weekend. So yeah,
Speaker 2: it's Friday when I leave work, I want to go
Speaker 2: somewhere because I get off right at Free so so
Speaker 2: I might I'm trying to figure out where I want
Speaker 2: to go. But then again, I mean I got the
Speaker 2: Coal Road. The Coal Road, that's that's not far from
Speaker 2: me either, so I might go down. Maybe I might
Speaker 2: go down that are just for the heck of it.
Speaker 2: You know, I haven't been down that area and camped
Speaker 2: in a while. So last time I was when I
Speaker 2: was with Julie. We actually we use our hammock tents.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, uh, I don't know. I'll play it. By
Speaker 2: year out, I'll be looking a little bit closer so
Speaker 2: I'll figure something out by then.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I don't know why loading is just empty.
Speaker 4: It's like a white I probably have too much stuff
Speaker 4: open right now.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. This is interesting. On the live Chare Dishes
Speaker 2: for Life said, I've had items completely disappear for hours
Speaker 2: and then reappear back where I left them out alone
Speaker 2: by myself. That's interesting. Hmmm mm hmm. I can't say
Speaker 2: I've very had ever had that happen.
Speaker 9: Yeah, hm, well, the hell that happened, but none out
Speaker 9: in the woods.
Speaker 2: Yeah it will happen. Wow. Interesting yeah, mm hmmmm. Harold Dan,
Speaker 2: stop talking about trucks focused on the podcast, not just joking.
Speaker 4: Maybe I think my Google somewhere let me check my driver.
Speaker 4: Oh I shouldn't have gone to.
Speaker 2: Photos instead.
Speaker 9: Mhm.
Speaker 2: Yeah. If I do decide to go down towards the
Speaker 2: Falk Running area, I might just uh I might just
Speaker 2: do that. I might. I might park at the gate
Speaker 2: there at the overlook area, and uh I might I
Speaker 2: might try to set something up there, and you know,
Speaker 2: during the off season when that gates closes. I mean,
Speaker 2: do you do you think people will ride down there
Speaker 2: or you.
Speaker 9: Know, I don't know.
Speaker 5: Because a lot of people know that gates closed back here,
Speaker 5: a lot of people.
Speaker 9: Are going and some people.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that's like anywhere else areas like that,
Speaker 5: probably more so because knowing that nobody's will be going
Speaker 5: back there and may go back here for more interfarious reasons.
Speaker 2: Right, That's that's my concern, because like if I go
Speaker 2: back here, I don't need a roof raft going over
Speaker 2: there in parking near me and doing their whatever they
Speaker 2: do because they know they're private back there and nobody's
Speaker 2: gonna see them do their whatever exactly.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I to say that, but yeah, I
Speaker 5: mean when when you go alone like that, Uh, I
Speaker 5: don't know.
Speaker 9: I mean I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's other area. Yeah, there's other areas
Speaker 2: out there that I know of. Uh, there's like I said,
Speaker 2: there's other areas in the surrounding era I know of that.
Speaker 2: I can't that before, not in that particular area, but
Speaker 2: not far from there. I can't at other locations where
Speaker 2: a buddy mine and Singer's Glenn took me out where
Speaker 2: you basically well the one area you would have to
Speaker 2: drive all the way up this tall mountain and then
Speaker 2: it drops way down in there's a little hollow area
Speaker 2: and it is very I mean, just being in there
Speaker 2: alone is spooky enough. This one particular era that I'm
Speaker 2: thinking of on the top of my head, I've actually
Speaker 2: got chased out well, I shouldn't say chased out of there.
Speaker 2: I was more or less I felt intimidated to jump
Speaker 2: out of there. It was a location where me and
Speaker 2: my buddy that I used to work with again he
Speaker 2: lives in the Singers Glen, and he took me the ear.
Speaker 2: Me and him camp there together one night and uh yeah,
Speaker 2: we heard a grunt, you know, and he's like, dude,
Speaker 2: that's a bear, and so we started banging our jugs
Speaker 2: and buckets and everything, making all kinds of noise. Never
Speaker 2: heard nothing again that night. Well, I'm sure short you
Speaker 2: know it was. It was an interesting experience. I ended
Speaker 2: up going back out there like a week later, maybe
Speaker 2: you know, a week or so later, to camp by myself.
Speaker 2: I wanted to know more about the area. I want
Speaker 2: to see what was out there, you know, because this
Speaker 2: same this particular location was the area where he told
Speaker 2: me that now he's camped there several times, but one
Speaker 2: of the times he had camped there, he had a
Speaker 2: young couple that were leaving out the area from where
Speaker 2: they were camping and saw he set up, they felt
Speaker 2: like they had to come by him and tell them
Speaker 2: why they were leaving. Well, apparently the young couple told
Speaker 2: them they heard his stream above above them from where
Speaker 2: they were camping. That they had no idea what it was,
Speaker 2: but they also had these several large rocks thrown into
Speaker 2: their campsite that that scared them enough to get out
Speaker 2: of there, and so they shared their information with him. Well,
Speaker 2: he learned about where they were camping at, and so
Speaker 2: he investigated it area. He was curious, well, what the
Speaker 2: heck was going on at their campsite, but he he
Speaker 2: told me, he said he went up above where their
Speaker 2: campsite was because he knew exactly where their camping at.
Speaker 2: He went under the hill up behind them, and it
Speaker 2: brought then it brought him over to it like the
Speaker 2: power line area where there was kind of like a
Speaker 2: clearing up there, but above where they're camping, he saw
Speaker 2: a whole bunch of you know, where there was a
Speaker 2: lot of rocks stuff, and he noticed there were some
Speaker 2: that were missing, and he grabbed some that were similar
Speaker 2: to the size that were missing and attempted to throw
Speaker 2: them down towards where their campsite was. And you know,
Speaker 2: he was back then, he was in his I don't know,
Speaker 2: this was several years ago. He was in his early
Speaker 2: at the mid sixties back then. But he threw the
Speaker 2: rocks best he can down to the campsite. He says,
Speaker 2: rocks might have thrown. He said, he might have made
Speaker 2: it halfway down there. If that. So, whatever was throwing
Speaker 2: him down there, it had some strength throw them all
Speaker 2: the way down into their campslite. So, yeah, these young
Speaker 2: couple had some large rocks thrown from up the top
Speaker 2: of that ridge all the way down into the campsite.
Speaker 2: And heard his scream well after attempting throwing a rock
Speaker 2: or two down there, and he could have made you know,
Speaker 2: like I said, his rock throws were making it maybe halfway.
Speaker 2: But while he was up there, he told me he's
Speaker 2: a Daniel. He said, I heard his guard awful scream
Speaker 2: out in those woods up across from where I was
Speaker 2: investigating this people's campsite. Well, he said, the way he
Speaker 2: described it, he said it sounded like a monkey or
Speaker 2: chimpanzee of some store or whatever. He said, it sounded
Speaker 2: very He described it as sounding very primate like, which
Speaker 2: I found very interesting. He said, I didn't know what
Speaker 2: it was, but that's the only way I know how
Speaker 2: to describe what I heard. It sounded like a monkey
Speaker 2: or Champanzee screaming, you know. And I don't know. After
Speaker 2: hearing that, and attempted to throw the rocks down towards
Speaker 2: that campsite, and he couldn't make it that far. You know,
Speaker 2: he didn't know what to think, so he got out
Speaker 2: of there. And so he feels like there's something going
Speaker 2: on in that area. And to kind of give you
Speaker 2: a rundown of where this area is. If you're off
Speaker 2: a route two fifty nine instead of turning down what's
Speaker 2: that route and brings it down to uh, that will
Speaker 2: lead you to the hog Grend Road. If you bypass
Speaker 2: that and continue ahead to west. If you go past
Speaker 2: that little store on the right, up a little way,
Speaker 2: there's a split off. I don't know. I think I
Speaker 2: want to say it's called North River Road or some
Speaker 2: other road. Uh, yeah, I think that's it. Yeah, he says, yeah,
Speaker 2: if you drive down that way, which this is the
Speaker 2: era where he's me and him camp that you drive
Speaker 2: all the way down there, pars like some houses. There's
Speaker 2: some trailers down there. Then it runs all the way
Speaker 2: out there. Uh. When we get down to a certain point,
Speaker 2: if you keep straight, he said, it will lead you
Speaker 2: to uh the Little Germany River it's called. But we
Speaker 2: split off to the left where you got to cross
Speaker 2: there's a creek to start leading and going up the mountain,
Speaker 2: you gotta there's a concrete pad where the creek runs
Speaker 2: through it. You got to drive through that, and then
Speaker 2: then it slowly starts taking you up the mountain. And
Speaker 2: once you get to the top of the mountain, you
Speaker 2: come to the power line clearing and you continue on
Speaker 2: and it drops you back down into this hollow. That's
Speaker 2: where we were at.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 2: Because the first night, like I said, when he took
Speaker 2: you there, we camp there. We had this grunt real
Speaker 2: close to camp, you know, at nighttime and uh yeah,
Speaker 2: which he declared, yeah, that was that was a bear.
Speaker 2: But the night I camped there, which I've shared this
Speaker 2: a few times, I kept there by myself, you know.
Speaker 2: And now he's sur named this area. He nicknamed this
Speaker 2: area Whispering Hollow for the very fact that the power
Speaker 2: lines that run over top of you, over top of
Speaker 2: the trees at nighttime, when the cool air settles down,
Speaker 2: it comes, it comes down into the lower area the
Speaker 2: power lines. You know, if you ever hear to listen
Speaker 2: to power lines, they have like a snap, crackle and
Speaker 2: pop kind of sound, and then they all kind of
Speaker 2: weird noises. And sometimes when the cool air settles in
Speaker 2: and you hear the power lines, it sounds like whispering voices,
Speaker 2: which was, you know, I found interesting. And he told
Speaker 2: me he says that area becomes very eerie, And uh,
Speaker 2: I mean I kind of slightly experienced a little of
Speaker 2: that when I camp there with him, but it was
Speaker 2: a lot more intense when I was by myself because
Speaker 2: it was very dark, the fog settled in and I'm
Speaker 2: sitting there at my campsite. You know, I have my tent,
Speaker 2: I have some lights set up, and I have my
Speaker 2: side arms sitting next to me, and it's dead quiet.
Speaker 2: You're not hearing a sound at all. The first thing
Speaker 2: I hear off to my left, up behind me was
Speaker 2: just what sounded like a very loud snap of a
Speaker 2: big tree limb, like all you hear is crack. I
Speaker 2: was like, oh shit, it's probably a bear moving in
Speaker 2: on me. So what do I do. I you know,
Speaker 2: I react, thinking it's a bear. I start making noise.
Speaker 2: I start banging stuff, making loud noise, and I think
Speaker 2: I even shouted once or twice, you know, while I
Speaker 2: was banging stuff. Then I put stuff down and I
Speaker 2: sat there. I was kind of like on alert, and
Speaker 2: I wasn't hearing nothing, and probably about maybe within five
Speaker 2: minutes or so, directly behind my my tent where I
Speaker 2: was camped at. It sounds like it was probably I
Speaker 2: don't know, I'm guessing it wasn't far. But what I
Speaker 2: heard next was another a loud crack of a tree
Speaker 2: or a limb loud, but it sounded so close it
Speaker 2: sounded like it was directly behind me. The first thing
Speaker 2: I do, I grabbed my spotlight and my sidearm and
Speaker 2: I'm pointing in the direction I'm pulling the trigger on
Speaker 2: the spotlight to try to see if I could see anything.
Speaker 2: And I mind you, my spotlight Apparently it wasn't charged
Speaker 2: up enough because when as soon as I pulled the
Speaker 2: trigger on the switch on the spotlight, it shuts right off.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh ship, you know, I had nothing
Speaker 2: to project out in the light. But when I when
Speaker 2: it did turn on to work. You wantn't see it
Speaker 2: much because it was fog. All you see when the
Speaker 2: light hit the back behind the woods, all you see
Speaker 2: was really dense, thick fog. And I was like, I
Speaker 2: try to pull, pull the pull the switch to the
Speaker 2: trigger on the spotlight. Again it goes off, I said, rap,
Speaker 2: I said, I hadn't you know. I mean, I'm not
Speaker 2: seeing nothing. I don't know. All I know is whatever
Speaker 2: was making those cracks. And then you know, you not
Speaker 2: hear no wind and nothing all you hear in these
Speaker 2: loud tree cracks, you know. So I felt intimidated. I
Speaker 2: was like, I don't know what's out there. I can't
Speaker 2: see what's out there. Uh, something's off something, there's something
Speaker 2: moving around. It's off a bowl, it's getting off close
Speaker 2: to me. And I threw my most valuables in my
Speaker 2: vehicle and left my tent and everything there again, threw
Speaker 2: my most valuables in my vehicle, jumped in there and
Speaker 2: took off, came back over the top of the mountain,
Speaker 2: got back into town. When I got into the phone
Speaker 2: service and.
Speaker 9: How far away where are you from the power line?
Speaker 2: The power lines, Oh, they were right over above me.
Speaker 5: Yeah, aside from the tree cracking and stuff like that. Uh,
Speaker 5: power lines will play havoc on your psyche because of
Speaker 5: the amount of power that they're generating.
Speaker 2: Right, Oh, I get that. I get that. But these
Speaker 2: were like clearly, like very close sounds of something like
Speaker 2: a big tree being cracked and half a side.
Speaker 9: Yeah. Aside from that, I understanding everything else.
Speaker 5: The way you were feeling and discomfort depending on the
Speaker 5: amount of power and how big the paralynes were place
Speaker 5: havoc with your psyche as far as that, because your
Speaker 5: body can actually feel it, and then you're hearing the
Speaker 5: tree cracking just probably amplify that feeling within itself, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like I said, I didn't know what
Speaker 2: to think of it. I mean, if it was at bear,
Speaker 2: it was awful bold, It wasn't shy. I mean, I
Speaker 2: mean I made the noise from after the first crack
Speaker 2: of the tree I heard, and you know, I didn't
Speaker 2: know what to think, especially hearing it right behind my
Speaker 2: tent that the second time, Yeah, put me on edge.
Speaker 2: I felt very vulnerable.
Speaker 9: I mean, yeah, the cracking didn't sound natural, I know,
Speaker 9: just breaking olden stress and all that other stuff.
Speaker 2: Because like I said, it was no wind no sound.
Speaker 2: It was dead silent up to here and no two cracks.
Speaker 2: And I didn't know what to think. I like I said,
Speaker 2: even though I had my side on my head, I
Speaker 2: had a forty four, not a forty four. I had
Speaker 2: a forty five with me that time, and which is
Speaker 2: a pretty good knockdown thing. But I just felt intimidated.
Speaker 2: I just, I guess again, feeling vulnerable and not knowing
Speaker 2: what it really was. I just didn't want to stand
Speaker 2: and hang around to find out if it was something
Speaker 2: that I didn't want to deal with it, you know,
Speaker 2: sodated anybody. Oh yeah, because I mean I was by myself.
Speaker 2: If I if I had somebody else with me, perhaps
Speaker 2: maybe it would have felt a little different. But because
Speaker 2: I was by myself during that time, yeah, I just
Speaker 2: didn't want to find out what it was because it
Speaker 2: was I didn't know if it you know, if it
Speaker 2: was something causing that. I just didn't want to find out.
Speaker 2: You know, it could have been something that could have.
Speaker 9: Harmed me, you know, and learn to make sure you
Speaker 9: get all your equipment charges up.
Speaker 2: But that's what gets me because yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 2: mean that power. That's that's another thing I thought about too.
Speaker 2: Because I was like I, you know, I grew up
Speaker 2: there was all my stuff charge you know. Uh no,
Speaker 2: now you don't know me. Now, I keep extra power
Speaker 2: sources to keep charging my stuff up. But I was
Speaker 2: just out there for one night. Yeah, because you.
Speaker 7: Know it's funny when I got when I left that area,
Speaker 7: I left my The only thing that was left near
Speaker 7: there was my tent.
Speaker 2: I came back about two weeks later. Of course my
Speaker 2: tent was untouched, nothing messed with it, so I was
Speaker 2: able to pack up my tent, you know. But yeah,
Speaker 2: because when I got back, that's the area. Yeah, I'd
Speaker 2: love to take you guys out there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I grew up in Fox Trin.
Speaker 2: I grew up in fol run there right, and I
Speaker 2: would I have a.
Speaker 8: Feeling I know where you're talking about that I would
Speaker 8: have to see it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it depends on how high the water. The one
Speaker 2: area you have to enter to come up the mountain,
Speaker 2: Like I said, there's a concrete uh slab where you
Speaker 2: have to drop down and drive through the creek to
Speaker 2: come up back onto the road. Well, yeah, you guys,
Speaker 2: see my car I drive right now. I don't know
Speaker 2: how that would handle through that little bit. I mean uh,
Speaker 2: last time we have a Toyota, oh yeah, and a
Speaker 2: Dodge Yeah. So yeah this time of year.
Speaker 5: As to say, even back at Slate Lake that the
Speaker 5: weather we've had, I mean the clearance you got on
Speaker 5: the bomb of your car. Uh, just been careful going
Speaker 5: back here and you wouldn't bottle Mountain get stuck. Oh yeah,
Speaker 5: very We have't been back there since the camp. I
Speaker 5: don't know that role might have been washed down any
Speaker 5: due to the weather and stuff right now.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean I've driven into Yeah, I've driven
Speaker 2: in small cars before out on the fourth Roads before,
Speaker 2: you know. I mean, you know, like out there where
Speaker 2: we camp that in October. I think that road, I
Speaker 2: think my car would be okay. But again, I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's not a state they can road, so I wouldn't.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm saying pretense because the way that's laid
Speaker 5: out back here is it does.
Speaker 9: Wash out a lot.
Speaker 5: And if you were turning back here, you's seeing that
Speaker 5: big mound of gravel on the side of the road
Speaker 5: just off to the side. Yeah, they use that to
Speaker 5: repair the roads with a lot. That's why they keep
Speaker 5: so much back there.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, that's.
Speaker 5: What that's for they're trying to keep a level out
Speaker 5: and graded as much as possible, so they do get
Speaker 5: a lot of washouts to cause to the lay of
Speaker 5: the land.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's kind of up around at Elkhorn Lake
Speaker 2: on the on the fourth road. Ears that are not
Speaker 2: paid they have. I mean, the worst case scenario when
Speaker 2: when you get a lot of rain is you got
Speaker 2: a lot more potholes to oble roads and stuff. But
Speaker 2: you know, but overall, yeah, I mean, because I'm up
Speaker 2: around elk One Lake, I mean I've seen so many
Speaker 2: small little cars people ride through those and they're a
Speaker 2: little handed, like I you know, I drive a Honda now,
Speaker 2: so but I've seen so many people riding through there
Speaker 2: like it's like a racetrack, which I was like, man,
Speaker 2: they're gonna mess up their cars, you know, driving that fast,
Speaker 2: you know, but especially if they hit them a pothole
Speaker 2: at the wrong angle, you know. So but yeah, interesting. So, yeah, Nikki,
Speaker 2: you were able to find those images.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're down there at the bottom.
Speaker 2: Oh down here at the bottom. Hold on, I'm not
Speaker 2: seeing no way to pull them up.
Speaker 4: You just click on it.
Speaker 2: Uh wait, where do I click on it? What do
Speaker 2: you mean? I don't see nothing showing up on my end.
Speaker 4: You don't see them down at the bottom where my
Speaker 4: face is. And then next two.
Speaker 2: Uh no, all I see if I click on your
Speaker 2: like if I click on your name or your picture.
Speaker 4: If so, it's on its own. It's all by itself,
Speaker 4: like as.
Speaker 2: If Oh yeah, I got I got it right here.
Speaker 4: Yeah there you go, there we go.
Speaker 2: Okay, I was.
Speaker 4: Coming out of the creek and yeah, I didn't the
Speaker 4: tape measure with me. Like I said, we were getting
Speaker 4: ready to leave and everything was just a mess and
Speaker 4: that morning.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it does look a little wet.
Speaker 4: Where there shouldn't be no way, so it didn't rate,
Speaker 4: you know, there wasn't anything.
Speaker 10: There was a weird kid mark, and then uh we
Speaker 10: thought maybe something feed there because it kind of trickled
Speaker 10: down back to that creek.
Speaker 2: Right. That is interesting though, that's weird. I mean that
Speaker 2: in person, that's what it looked like, Like it look
Speaker 2: like a stream of wetness or like it looked like
Speaker 2: a like almost like scraped to ground.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like a scrape originally and then wetness
Speaker 4: and then it was crazy. Let me see if I
Speaker 4: can find because I know what I'm looking at It's
Speaker 4: so horrible. How pictures of footprints don't look as good as.
Speaker 2: You see in person. Oh, trust me. I say that
Speaker 2: all the time because I see stuff that you can
Speaker 2: see clearly in person, but pictures, pictures and stuff like
Speaker 2: tracks never do justice. I get that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, corner where was walked up, This was the corner
Speaker 4: of that I was at. And yeah, you can't you
Speaker 4: can't see what I see. Okay, so this is let
Speaker 4: me move to the next one, this one. If you
Speaker 4: look at the right side, you can see the toads yep,
Speaker 4: right there, they're very round. And where that big rock
Speaker 4: is that is kind of like where the mid Tarsl
Speaker 4: break would be.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, and.
Speaker 4: Then it goes a little further down. But that's my phone,
Speaker 4: my phone, somebody's phone, I don't know above it. So
Speaker 4: it was small, there was They were not big feet
Speaker 4: walking around barefoot out there.
Speaker 2: Uh, there's a possibility it made have been a young
Speaker 2: adolescence that was curious, because they say a lot of
Speaker 2: the young ones are more mischievous and curious than anything else.
Speaker 4: Now, Jenson saw bigger footprints on the other side of
Speaker 4: the truck. I don't have those pictures but uh so
Speaker 4: she was. You know, we were thinking, well maybe it
Speaker 4: was an adult looking out of you know, over a
Speaker 4: juvenile possibility anyway, right, hmmm, yeah, See these just don't
Speaker 4: look they're not great. It really hard there to find
Speaker 4: footprints because of the terrain and the substrate, right, It's
Speaker 4: just really that was our I think that was one
Speaker 4: of our feet. We were testing to see how hard
Speaker 4: we could make a print.
Speaker 5: Right now, Was that a normal step or did you
Speaker 5: try to put some weight on it to make it print?
Speaker 4: To put weight on for that one right there? Yeah,
Speaker 4: we stomped like a stomp, you know it was and
Speaker 4: there was little bits of wetness everywhere when we didn't
Speaker 4: know what that was huh, far away from you know,
Speaker 4: because that was just right there next to the Also
Speaker 4: that night I had heard we had all our chairs,
Speaker 4: you know, in a circle, because you know, when you
Speaker 4: get together with everybody, you huddle around the camp fire.
Speaker 4: So we had we had like all our chairs around there,
Speaker 4: and all the chairs were kind of bumped around and
Speaker 4: not in that circle form, you know. Look, they were
Speaker 4: just all over and I could hear something going in
Speaker 4: between them. Huh, I'm back, this was me talking. Oh,
Speaker 4: he's a yeah, let's see, oh ca see look at
Speaker 4: we had foil. There's the back of the truck to
Speaker 4: the right. Back there in that truck was where those
Speaker 4: pretzels were, and he was preparing meats and stuff. That's
Speaker 4: Dakoda right there. He's the chef. He's a barbecue guy.
Speaker 4: We ate really good while we were there, I mean,
Speaker 4: pekanya and all kinds of great, great barbecued meats. And
Speaker 4: he was, you know, using that whole foil method out
Speaker 4: there on his smoker. He took his smoker and h
Speaker 4: Thomas steam Burg. There's Mike and Jay Birch's wife, Manda.
Speaker 4: We did some interviewing.
Speaker 2: Usual.
Speaker 4: Let's see.
Speaker 2: So there was a lake in the area where you
Speaker 2: guys are at.
Speaker 4: Yeah, down, yeah, a little a little ways, a couple
Speaker 4: of miles down there was a there was a lake.
Speaker 4: But it is beautiful for sure, really beautiful out there.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 5: Going back to that truck right quick, they had those
Speaker 5: prestls in the bed of it.
Speaker 9: That's an Almo truck, right yeah, like those.
Speaker 5: Eyes ram thinking you have to have to be able
Speaker 5: to reach over to the bed of the truck just
Speaker 5: to manipulate the back of prestels.
Speaker 9: That's a long reason, yea.
Speaker 5: Even for a big man to be able to lean
Speaker 5: over to do that that long arm.
Speaker 2: Right like me, I'm six foot tall. Still, like even
Speaker 2: like standing up against your truck, David, Yeah, you would
Speaker 2: have to kind of like reach down, like. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: is a good reason because the way you pick up
Speaker 2: trucks set up or now like yours.
Speaker 4: Okay, you see where the oil bottle is right well
Speaker 4: to the right of that is like a mustard bottle
Speaker 4: or something down there by the the end of the
Speaker 4: four okay, yeah, right behind that is where that pretzel
Speaker 4: bag is.
Speaker 5: Okay, I ain't got that kind of long arms without
Speaker 5: getting to.
Speaker 9: Pull it to me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all this stuff was pretty much not there. And
Speaker 4: but all the stuff on this table that was right
Speaker 4: next diet, it's good for them, No, go ahead, watch.
Speaker 9: That's making me hungry.
Speaker 4: L He made us meat loaf out there that was
Speaker 4: like to die for it.
Speaker 9: Yeah, as best we can, wow.
Speaker 4: Se if we can still see that back there.
Speaker 2: Camping?
Speaker 4: Okay, see the table back there, how messy it was,
Speaker 4: how we had a bunch of crap on there. That
Speaker 4: stuff stained out there all night and it wasn't it
Speaker 4: wasn't knocked over. It wasn't nothing was touched. There was cookies, open,
Speaker 4: sugar cubes. Nothing.
Speaker 5: There's Jen with Bear's been opportunistic. I don't think that
Speaker 5: was the barebacker. It had to be something else.
Speaker 4: I just and Jen can tell you too. I think
Speaker 4: we both thought we were gonna wake up to having
Speaker 4: a mess out there, and all that stuff was still there.
Speaker 4: It was just there.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: Interesting thing is there was a game camera laying on
Speaker 4: the table in the far corner. Yeah, down the game
Speaker 4: camera and it was sitting there on the table.
Speaker 2: Wow, was it activated or just sitting there?
Speaker 4: No, we had taken it down already.
Speaker 2: It was oh okay, it's.
Speaker 4: A weird thing that happened. And and oh you can almost
Speaker 4: see the pretzels there now behind that bottle. It's a
Speaker 4: light blue. It's a very light blue. Yeah, package back there. Anyway,
Speaker 4: it was, you know, interesting little trip for sure.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but you know, well, definitely get we got
Speaker 2: to get you out here to Virginia. I know you've
Speaker 2: been out here in the Virginia with your aunt that
Speaker 2: come out to my event, but you need to come
Speaker 2: out cancel with us one day for sure.
Speaker 4: You know, it's just hard when traveling, you know, and
Speaker 4: having to borrow gear and everything and not having your
Speaker 4: own stuff, and.
Speaker 2: Right, oh I get that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because so last year I ended up having the
Speaker 4: shindig up in British Columbia. So I flew to Calgary
Speaker 4: and Mike, who who I just pointed out a while ago,
Speaker 4: picked me up in Calgary and we drove across the
Speaker 4: Canadian Rockies all the way to British Columbia to Sasquatch
Speaker 4: Provincial Park, where we stayed for five nights there. And
Speaker 4: that was amazing, a lot, a lot of history. We
Speaker 4: went to the Chapman Farm, we went to the famous
Speaker 4: oh my gosh, what's his name? I can't think of
Speaker 4: his name now?
Speaker 2: Well who was he?
Speaker 4: Well, the boy, the Squatch boy, what was his name?
Speaker 4: Oh my god? Helped me out, Jim again, think any more.
Speaker 4: I've been up since for three to thirty this morning.
Speaker 2: Oh my.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I had the early shift today. So we did
Speaker 4: all that. It was wonderful experience. I got taken around
Speaker 4: all over and this coming July, I really want to
Speaker 4: get to Bluff Creek, Jacko, thank you Jacko. Yeah. I
Speaker 4: got to go to the rail railroad tracks right to
Speaker 4: where he was supposedly climbing the side of the wall
Speaker 4: there the mountain. But all that is on my channel
Speaker 4: as well, if you want to see all that has
Speaker 4: been documented. And I want to go to Bluff Creek.
Speaker 4: I want to go to Bluff Creek, but I want
Speaker 4: to drive. It's take me three days to drive you,
Speaker 4: so I can have my gear with me. But we'll
Speaker 4: see if I can make that happen. I also want
Speaker 4: to go to Whitehall this year.
Speaker 2: Ah yeah, yeah, so.
Speaker 4: I got a couple of things in the works, but
Speaker 4: I don't know if we'll have to see it's soon
Speaker 4: to say if I can make it happen.
Speaker 2: Well, for future reference, if you ever want to join
Speaker 2: one of our campus we hold them every spring and fall,
Speaker 2: usually around May in September. So if you ever want
Speaker 2: to plan ahead and it's like, okay, Daniel, I want
Speaker 2: to come to your spring or fall. Came about one
Speaker 2: of the dates, you know, just let me know and
Speaker 2: I'll throw them out there for you.
Speaker 4: Cool, absolutely, thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so yeah, sounds pretty adventurous. You've been getting around,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yet you know that was the whole point of me,
Speaker 4: is trying to go to all these popular places. I
Speaker 4: want to go to the LBL one time.
Speaker 2: I want to.
Speaker 4: I almost had an opportunity to go to Florida, but
Speaker 4: it was just such late notice that I couldn't make
Speaker 4: that happen because I was saving all my money for Canada. Right,
Speaker 4: I just have to kind of pick and choose. Right now,
Speaker 4: you know where I want to go?
Speaker 2: Now correct me if I'm wrong. You go. When you
Speaker 2: go off on these adventures, you go by yourself.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: The Javier stays home.
Speaker 4: Don't he eats camping?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 7: He didn't.
Speaker 2: He ever do camping when he was in the marine.
Speaker 2: She's a marine. He should love the camp.
Speaker 4: That's why he hates it. He goes. They made me
Speaker 4: camp for twenty six years. I ain't never camping again.
Speaker 9: He yeah, not a different time of camping though.
Speaker 2: Yeah he might. That's what I'm saying. He might actually
Speaker 2: like doing what you do.
Speaker 4: Took him once and that was enough because I had
Speaker 4: and I had planned to go over to the Mogian
Speaker 4: Remend Blue camp out. And yeah, he took me to
Speaker 4: that because he knew my heart was in it. I
Speaker 4: was so ready to go, and he says, I'll take
Speaker 4: emergency leave. I'll take you out there, and so he did.
Speaker 4: He took some emergency leave. He took me out there,
Speaker 4: and he could not wait to get out of there.
Speaker 4: He wow, he himself, Okay, he made friends with all
Speaker 4: my friends, but he still couldn't wait to leave. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he's like, no. I looked at him. I go, you
Speaker 4: don't ever want to come to one of these again, right,
Speaker 4: And he goes, no, it was just that's not his
Speaker 4: cup of tea, you know, So I understand that. So
Speaker 4: it's okay, it's my gig my gear. You know. I
Speaker 4: go out camping up there in the mountains, and yeah,
Speaker 4: I do a lot of day trips, so I don't
Speaker 4: have to stay the night a lot by myself, just
Speaker 4: for safety reasons and stuff. But right I have, you know,
Speaker 4: I have a good couple of good spots out there
Speaker 4: that I'm finally comfortable staying the night. And now just
Speaker 4: wait for the snow to melt because it's blocked in
Speaker 4: right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, you know, I know, I'm assuming both of
Speaker 2: you and your husband both have concealed carrier permits and
Speaker 2: everything the background.
Speaker 4: He does, of course, but I don't. Yeah, he trying
Speaker 4: to get me to do mine, but I don't have
Speaker 4: it now.
Speaker 2: The reason the reason I was asking or bringing that up,
Speaker 2: because I know, because of your background and the military background,
Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys like have certain like
Speaker 2: I know some states like here in Virginia, I have
Speaker 2: to pay attention to, like if I travel, what states
Speaker 2: allow me to have it in their states and whatnot?
Speaker 2: You know, So I didn't know if you had one,
Speaker 2: and if you bring it with you out west out
Speaker 2: there up northwest like you go to, I don't know
Speaker 2: if they, like I know, the gun laws are completely
Speaker 2: different than they already on the East coast, you know, to.
Speaker 4: Be taking bear spray around, you know, I couldn't take
Speaker 4: any Canada, of course, nothing. So I was borrowing from people.
Speaker 4: And then here in Texas we can open carry and
Speaker 4: we can have our you know, license or whatever. But
Speaker 4: I I don't hunt. I don't investigate here in Texas.
Speaker 4: I investigate in New Mexico. So I travel to New
Speaker 4: Mexico a couple hours. I'm right on the border. I'm
Speaker 4: literally right a mile from New Mexico, a mile from
Speaker 4: Mexico on the little squiggly lines that's where I.
Speaker 2: Ah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I go up to New Mexico and you
Speaker 4: can't have guns there. So and then a lot I
Speaker 4: kind of bordered the Indian reservation. So that's another reason
Speaker 4: I can't have a weapon there. Because I.
Speaker 2: Was gonna say, you're also I'm assuming you're not far
Speaker 2: from Oklahoma as well, are you?
Speaker 4: Yeah? No, I am far far from Oklahoma.
Speaker 2: Oh you are, Okay, Okay, I'm just trying to picture
Speaker 2: there because for the reason I bring that up, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: because Shane Carpenter and uh who is Shane Carpenter and
Speaker 2: Brian Hulan. I hope I ain't getting two names. I
Speaker 2: know they've done a lot of investigations and uh camp
Speaker 2: outs of their own in Oklahoma, and they've had a
Speaker 2: lot of kivy there in the past.
Speaker 4: You know, from what I re call, all of East
Speaker 4: Texas is squatchy, all the way up into Oklahoma and Arkansas.
Speaker 4: You know, yeah, yeah, that's all squatchy. But that's two
Speaker 4: days drive for me. Remember, Texas is really big.
Speaker 10: It is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, You're right, it is. And I've never been down there,
Speaker 2: but you know, I can imagine so.
Speaker 4: One drive to San Antonio.
Speaker 2: Yeah, being on the talking about the eastern part of Texas,
Speaker 2: I know there's been a lot of there's a lot
Speaker 2: of big foot research along that ear too, especially in
Speaker 2: the southeastern parts of Texas. Uh. Back from when I
Speaker 2: used to you know, I associate with Baldimar and there's
Speaker 2: others that actually do research and stuff down there that
Speaker 2: have big reports from those areas.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you are uh huh the Big Thicket area.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's good.
Speaker 4: National preserve or something. And then you've got that whole
Speaker 4: Houston area down there.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: I can't remember the name of it now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to think is it one of the
Speaker 2: one of the rivers down there or somewhere near a
Speaker 2: water source? I know Baltimore Baltimore had pointed it out
Speaker 2: and I've seen it on documentaries. But is there supposedly
Speaker 2: some of the river beds down there that have old
Speaker 2: dinosaur tracks fossilized into the river beds or creek beds
Speaker 2: down there? Yep, Yeah, I always thought that was pretty interesting. Yeah. Uh,
Speaker 2: I don't know. There's ferries or fosts where if some
Speaker 2: people believe that there's something still run around down there,
Speaker 2: do you believe that could be possible or is that.
Speaker 4: Just I don't know, were there to be what dinosaur.
Speaker 2: Bigfoot or anything large. Yeah, I mean, I guess foot,
Speaker 2: but I've heard rumors in in the past where people
Speaker 2: think that there could be some kind of remaining large
Speaker 2: I don't know, living dinosaur possible today. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't think. I don't know, Yeah, for sure, I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't think so anymore. I think I've already discovered that.
Speaker 4: You know, they do say that the chupacabras all in
Speaker 4: that area too, but everything points to that they're just
Speaker 4: seeing mangy you know, koy dogs and coyotes and wolves
Speaker 4: and stuff.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Mm hm, of course. You know, you you ever watched
Speaker 2: documentaries about you know, I watched a lot about Alaska,
Speaker 2: the Alaska Triangle, uh, you know, big foot reports, And
Speaker 2: of course there was one documentary I watched which I
Speaker 2: found very interesting where the scientists and so, you know,
Speaker 2: they they they measure movement off of their sonars and
Speaker 2: stuff off or whatever they call it. But something is
Speaker 2: causing these I don't know, cause I don't know the
Speaker 2: right way to put it. But there's rumors that maybe
Speaker 2: there's a possibility that there's something large enough as a
Speaker 2: mammos that may still remain up there. Because they have
Speaker 2: found Willie mammittt tucks up there years ago. I don't
Speaker 2: know if that's any possibility of I mean, I would figure.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know Alaska has a lot of world
Speaker 2: in this that probably people have never stepped foot on yet.
Speaker 2: But you think a mammoth, something as large as what
Speaker 2: a mammog would be, somebody would have something like that.
Speaker 4: But I don't think I think that's a possibility anymore either.
Speaker 4: I do know that they are going to create mammis
Speaker 4: right now. They are creating mammos. They have the DNA
Speaker 4: sequenced and they're gonna make a baby.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean that's right. They have found full
Speaker 2: intact remains of a small ones, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they have the whole sequence for that.
Speaker 2: Wow, that would be interesting.
Speaker 4: I think there's that now. You know, we always say
Speaker 4: that up there in Alaska, Canada, that the Sasquatch are
Speaker 4: probably a lot larger in those areas because it's colder,
Speaker 4: it's a colder area, harsher climate. They're probably bigger, they're
Speaker 4: you know, more hair, longer, bigger coats, just like we
Speaker 4: Florida they have coats because it's why.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well that and you would think that that, you know,
Speaker 7: there's should be, assuming that there should be plenty of
Speaker 7: food source for them.
Speaker 2: They shribe and live healthy up there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, bigger animals, you know.
Speaker 2: Right, Look the moose, the elk, the bear, the massive
Speaker 2: up there. I mean yeah, I mean they don't smell.
Speaker 2: They don't sell small calibers for nothing. I mean large
Speaker 2: caliber rifles and shotguns up there in Alaska for nothing. Uh.
Speaker 2: Here's something I want to bring up. When you mentioned
Speaker 2: you're talking about possibly going to investigate LBL Land between
Speaker 2: the Lakes the YouTube, the hunter mentioned this is coming
Speaker 2: from him, but he said there's no evidence from LAMB
Speaker 2: between the Lakes he believes or thanks are it's all
Speaker 2: made up. What's your take on that?
Speaker 4: I think it's possibility there there. I don't I haven't
Speaker 4: studied the witness statements for that area, so I don't
Speaker 4: know where all the witnesses are seeing this thing. I
Speaker 4: don't know, you know. But as before I go into
Speaker 4: an area and then you start really investigating and seeing
Speaker 4: what's going on and stuff like that and getting the
Speaker 4: actual sightings. The claim is is that the LBL area
Speaker 4: is too well populated. It has far too many people
Speaker 4: in that area recreation wise for there to for their
Speaker 4: to be able to sustain a bigfoot in that area.
Speaker 4: That's pretty much the claim. But sightings happen. Sightings happen
Speaker 4: all over the place. You know, not all of them
Speaker 4: going to be hoaxed made up. So you just have
Speaker 4: to check it out. You know, maybe you're in the
Speaker 4: right place at the right time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, that's anywhere right. I mean, it's like
Speaker 2: you know, in my main researcher I can tell you.
Speaker 2: I mean I've had my experiences there, but to find
Speaker 2: evidence period what we would considered evidence personally, I mean,
Speaker 2: it's here to miss. I've gotten into these years numero
Speaker 2: times and I find nothing. I mean I found things
Speaker 2: that could be possibilities, but never anything to me that
Speaker 2: would be definitive or like, hey, I can say this
Speaker 2: is what this is or what I believe this could
Speaker 2: truly be. But you know, it depends on the time
Speaker 2: of day, time of year. I mean, if tracks I
Speaker 2: used to find tracks all the time, they just really
Speaker 2: slowed down for me. I have you know, I'm always
Speaker 2: looking and there's tracks be found. I tually like I'm
Speaker 2: gonna find them because I feel like I'm very observant
Speaker 2: when it comes to tracks. You know.
Speaker 4: But Jennifer Watkins, who was just in the chat a
Speaker 4: little while ago, She's like, Hawkeye man, things in the
Speaker 4: track that I just walk over, you know, Like right, yeah,
Speaker 4: I was just there. But I'm truly to the point
Speaker 4: in this journey of mine where I don't think we're
Speaker 4: gonna go out and find them. I think they find
Speaker 4: I think who is We need to go out there
Speaker 4: and make ourselves available, you know, put ourselves in situations
Speaker 4: where they might run into us. And that's how it's
Speaker 4: gonna happen. Because I just don't think we're going to
Speaker 4: find them. They We need to draw them into wherever
Speaker 4: we are, to our campsites or wherever whatever we have
Speaker 4: going on, make things interesting for them to draw them in.
Speaker 4: Brent Dill has his little light experiment where you know,
Speaker 4: he goes out and he puts up a string of
Speaker 4: lights out in the darkness and we just sit out
Speaker 4: there and wait, you know, and see if something comes
Speaker 4: to investigate it.
Speaker 2: Now, I had tried that back in twenty thirteen, well thirteen,
Speaker 2: uh yeah, we were out the twenty thirteen times. I
Speaker 2: recall this one area to bring up his name, mister
Speaker 2: Fred Canny, me and him for camp in this one
Speaker 2: area where we got whooped at one night, real close
Speaker 2: to camp. Well, this very safe here, huh go ahead?
Speaker 4: Was it thirty feet tall?
Speaker 2: Now we didn't see what whooped that does, but we
Speaker 2: heard it very clear as day. He was sitting next
Speaker 2: to me. Yeah, we had two small little dome tents
Speaker 2: and well we had Yeah, we had the fire going.
Speaker 2: It was probably about ten o'clock or so at night.
Speaker 2: We're sitting there. His jeep. He had his old jeep
Speaker 2: that he used to have, his old or whatever I
Speaker 2: forget his old, big, old military jeep and he had
Speaker 2: a trailer hooked up to it. Now I recall he
Speaker 2: had his he had his uh pair of ball Mike
Speaker 2: sitting on top of the jeep. So I was like, okay,
Speaker 2: he's got set where it's recording and picking up anything
Speaker 2: that we might hear. Well out of nowhere we got
Speaker 2: who I mean like three or four times, maybe five
Speaker 2: times from what I recall, and it's like whoa. I'm
Speaker 2: standing up, I said, Fred, are you hearing this?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I hear it. It's like it sounds like it's happening
Speaker 2: on the other side of his jeep. And after we
Speaker 2: heard that, it's like, oh, man, Like I was excited because, like,
Speaker 2: I know, we have that recording. Long story short, No,
Speaker 2: his device was never set on record. It wasn't doing nothing.
Speaker 2: It was just sitting on his being dead. I was like,
Speaker 2: are you shitting me? You know what that was back
Speaker 2: in twenty thirteen. Long story short, I've camped in the
Speaker 2: same location multiple times now. I've camped in with just
Speaker 2: me and my daughter. We're sitting here at camp and
Speaker 2: I'm actually there was one time I actually had it
Speaker 2: on Dadia if we listened to it. It was one
Speaker 2: where Brianna was sitting in a chair up against the
Speaker 2: tank and I'm recording the video at nighttime and I'm
Speaker 2: talking and even in the middle of my top, you
Speaker 2: can hear this knock, like right there behind our camp,
Speaker 2: and it stops to me in my tracks. I was like,
Speaker 2: that was a knock, you know, And Brianna heard it too,
Speaker 2: And after playing back to the video, I was like,
Speaker 2: oh cool, I captured it.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 2: It was loud enough to where it got picked up
Speaker 2: on the recording. And again, I had a cheap I
Speaker 2: had back in twenty thirteen. I had a cheap junkie phone,
Speaker 2: but it still picked up the audio, you know. And
Speaker 2: so I thought that was interesting because you know, there's
Speaker 2: I feel like there's something that passes through or goes
Speaker 2: through this area because David, Melissa, this spot that I'm
Speaker 2: talking about, this is up by Elkow Lake. This is
Speaker 2: the very next point, remember the first time we all
Speaker 2: can't out, well, not the first spot, the one spot
Speaker 2: we can't out, real close to the river. If you
Speaker 2: go cross that bridge, that next camp spot immediately on
Speaker 2: your right hand side is basically across from that one
Speaker 2: camp spot where we were at. That's where all this
Speaker 2: was taking place. But uh yeah, and it's basically behind
Speaker 2: the other, like you know, the other camp spot where
Speaker 2: we had the first big group camp out. If you
Speaker 2: go through the woods, it's actually right there in that
Speaker 2: cluster right there, it's behind it's way behind.
Speaker 9: The campsite, you know.
Speaker 2: So I know there's like there's been definitely some movement
Speaker 2: and some activity in that location. And but that whole
Speaker 2: general area that keep in mind. I tell people I
Speaker 2: had which I need to get a new one put together,
Speaker 2: the other ones lost or gone. But I had a
Speaker 2: full map system of the whole location and I used
Speaker 2: to document every time I would have an experience or
Speaker 2: hear something, whatever it might be. I always documented it
Speaker 2: on my geographics now, but uh so, yeah, that area,
Speaker 2: there was definitely something there, regardless of what we know
Speaker 2: about Fred Canny, and I've can do with him several times.
Speaker 2: I've been out the woods with them several times, so
Speaker 2: I know what I've experienced when I was out there,
Speaker 2: you know. So, but you know, there's there's definitely something
Speaker 2: that goes on out there, you know. And you know,
Speaker 2: like I said, we've been out there. We may not
Speaker 2: hear nothing or experience nothing, but like NICKI stated earlier,
Speaker 2: it's about being in the right place at the right time.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: You can't guarantee activity or anything anytime. It's just we
Speaker 2: hope for it. We can only hope for it.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 5: But yeah, going going back to the Obo right quick
Speaker 5: for for Nikki, there's a lot of history there, uh
Speaker 5: to research if you ever do make that trip. Way
Speaker 5: back in the day, people did used to live back
Speaker 5: here early nights somewhere thereabouts. The government came in and
Speaker 5: moved everybody else because the government built bunkers and stuff
Speaker 5: back there. Doing what they the government did back her
Speaker 5: way back in the early days. But anyway, seven April
Speaker 5: nineteen eighty two, look his story up when you get
Speaker 5: a chance to see what you make of it. A
Speaker 5: family was found murdered in an RV on the LBL,
Speaker 5: and investigation went on for years, and one of the
Speaker 5: children's bodies actually found up in a tree.
Speaker 9: Research that.
Speaker 5: Look it up, make your own conclusions what you might
Speaker 5: think about it. But it's something interesting. Since we're all
Speaker 5: into this anyway, you know, coming up with answers and
Speaker 5: going out looking for things. I don't think they ever
Speaker 5: really find out who did it or how or what
Speaker 5: people speculate. Dog man, Yeah, I know you heard a
Speaker 5: dog man. I don't think there's wild cats in that.
Speaker 9: Part of Kentucky. I was raised to Kentucky.
Speaker 5: I've never known any and this is southern Kentucky LBL.
Speaker 5: But I've never heard of any mountain lion or a
Speaker 5: thing like that that would do that. I mean, I
Speaker 5: think they could certainly drag a child up in a tree,
Speaker 5: but I think it might have been a family for
Speaker 5: I believe. So some was found inside the RB that
Speaker 5: was murdered and bodies tore apart, and then one of
Speaker 5: the children was actually found up in a tree. So
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm just towing that out there. If you
Speaker 5: go down there to want to do your own research investigations,
Speaker 5: see what that's about. Down there is a lot of
Speaker 5: history at the LBL, A lot mm.
Speaker 2: Interesting streaking.
Speaker 9: Yeah, very.
Speaker 2: I'm just curious because I have this comment posted up
Speaker 2: on the screen. The Hunter he said, I'm out in
Speaker 2: the woods a lot and didn't hear all this stuff.
Speaker 2: Love to know the area you're in so I can
Speaker 2: go and check it out myself. But the Hunter, if
Speaker 2: you're listening, I'm just curious to know where you're located.
Speaker 2: Where are you from? Are you willing to share your
Speaker 2: full identity? You are safe with us, share away. So Melissa,
Speaker 2: did you get your permanent tattoo from radiation yet? William
Speaker 2: night Hawks asking not yet.
Speaker 8: I go on March third, where they're going to do
Speaker 8: the CT simulation and that's where I'll get the tatting done.
Speaker 8: Oh a week later when I'm supposed to start Marshall
Speaker 8: radiation treatments.
Speaker 2: Okay, so gotcha, Nicki. If you have any questions, NICKI
Speaker 2: might know some questions for you. She's a nurse.
Speaker 5: Give you here to midnight Internet research and the stuff.
Speaker 5: You're driving me crazy.
Speaker 4: Pa, I work with Terry.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, Oh lord, well, Nikki provides some territory of
Speaker 2: food with me. I'm a diabetic, help me eat healthier.
Speaker 2: I know, right, I enjoined the quarter quarter cheese, French
Speaker 2: fries and Dr Pepper Oh mine. Ah, so yeah, you
Speaker 2: know I gotta get That's another one, Nikki. Have you
Speaker 2: ever met William Nighthawks before? I spoke with him before,
Speaker 2: I don't believe. So, oh yeah, you would love him.
Speaker 2: He's also Native American. Uh, and he is full of
Speaker 2: information and knowledge. To have you on with him, Uh.
Speaker 4: The strangest podcast channel thing down so I could go
Speaker 4: look it up later.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's a walk con dictionary.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he has a lot of information. He Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: like his mind. You bring up a subject, He'll tell
Speaker 2: you anything you want to know about it. It's like
Speaker 2: he knows you know. Uh, he's full of knowledge and wisdom. Uh.
Speaker 2: He knows a lot of history of Native American. You know. Again,
Speaker 2: he's Native American himself. On Facebook. You find him on Facebook,
Speaker 2: it goes by, you know. His name is William Nighthawk
Speaker 2: on Facebook. So yeah, he's a very incredible guy. Uh.
Speaker 2: He lives local to us and hopefully he's up to it.
Speaker 2: You know, William, if you're listening, you know I've said
Speaker 2: this before. Even if you can spend a day out
Speaker 2: there when you when we do a group camp out
Speaker 2: in May, it'll be a lot better conditions and warmer
Speaker 2: weather if you can come out, you and your what
Speaker 2: you and Stacey come out. Oh, he spent the day
Speaker 2: with us. We would love to have you know, so
Speaker 2: you gout. You know that, you guys, We really want
Speaker 2: you guys out there. It would be great to have
Speaker 2: you guys there and you know, you know, come around,
Speaker 2: sit around the fire, shoot the ship and you know,
Speaker 2: and you know, Uh gave her to bring their donuts and.
Speaker 9: You know that Daniel dagnavit.
Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't give Nikki don't know the background the
Speaker 2: story behind the donuts. David. So they're retired, but they
Speaker 2: worked at Christy Kreme, you know, for exercise, you know,
Speaker 2: you know, fined money. But I joked with David because
Speaker 2: you know, I went in there one day and I
Speaker 2: caught him wearing an apron, so you know, he has
Speaker 2: his manhood estate. So I and at the last camp
Speaker 2: I presented him with a new apron it's a big
Speaker 2: but holding that, don't it?
Speaker 9: So?
Speaker 2: You know, so maybe he'll wear it at the next camp.
Speaker 2: I don't know. There we go, Hey, Melissa, hold it
Speaker 2: up one more time. There we go. That's the apron
Speaker 2: I got for David David's donuts. That yeah, did you
Speaker 2: have that special? What's that? Do you have?
Speaker 4: That made special?
Speaker 2: I designed it? Uh yeah, I presented the image up
Speaker 2: on well. I ordered it through Amazon. Yeah yeah, uh oh.
Speaker 2: Williams said, I will need a ride to camp out.
Speaker 2: My legs are not pretty enough to hitch hike. What
Speaker 2: about Stacy? I mean, Tracy doesn't Tracy. Tracy can drive
Speaker 2: you out there, can't she? But so if you're if
Speaker 2: you're able to get out there, we'll find a way
Speaker 2: to get you out there.
Speaker 6: William so, oh yeah, oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Hey Santra Piper, I know that name.
Speaker 4: Yeah, in Florida. She follows me everywhere I go and
Speaker 4: I'll love her.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm offended because she used to follow me.
Speaker 11: I'm just joking because I haven't done a live video
Speaker 11: in a long time, so that's why some names I've
Speaker 11: I recognize names, and I just haven't seen.
Speaker 2: YouTube names in a while. So it's all good. Yeah
Speaker 2: mm hmmm, oh man, So yeah, I know I actually thinking.
Speaker 2: I mean, May is not that far away, and I'm
Speaker 2: excited for us to get back out there. You know.
Speaker 2: But like I said, this weekend, I'm looking at the weekend,
Speaker 2: I'm looking at the weather, and I'm itching to get
Speaker 2: back out here. I don't care if it's for just
Speaker 2: overnight or whatever, but I'm watching the weather and the temperatures.
Speaker 2: Like I said, I'm determined to go out there this weekend.
Speaker 2: As soon as I get up at work Friday, head out,
Speaker 2: camp out somewhere, you know, just to be out there,
Speaker 2: you know, you know, you never know. I like I said,
Speaker 2: I have a pinpointed a location where I was going
Speaker 2: to go. I may go out in my main research
Speaker 2: area and just camp out, you know, for the weekend.
Speaker 2: See how it plays out. The one thing I could,
Speaker 2: you know, I have to look at is ah, shoot,
Speaker 2: I love my train, I know, like I said, I
Speaker 2: gotta play it by year, you know, I'm watching the
Speaker 2: temperate temperatures is supposed to be this whole com of week.
Speaker 2: It's supposed to be in between the fifties the mid fifties,
Speaker 2: you know. So but well, I'll figure it out because
Speaker 2: I've been, you know, looking for every opportunity to get
Speaker 2: up to go camp agame. Like I said, I don't
Speaker 2: care if this for a week or weekend, whatever it is.
Speaker 2: But uh so William William Knighthawk said, I can't bring
Speaker 2: Stacy my wife. She said my wife. Oh well, I
Speaker 2: meant Tracy, not Stacy. He said, I can't brink Stacy,
Speaker 2: my wife was divorced. Me. What she don't know, what
Speaker 2: she don't know won't hurt her. I'm sorry. I didn't
Speaker 2: mean to say Tracy. I mean Stacy. I meant Tracy. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we won't. We won't say nothing. William. Uh yeah. It's
Speaker 2: funny if they come up there together and I say, hey, Stacey,
Speaker 2: I mean Tracy, Like, who's Stacey? Lord? I am yeah.
Speaker 2: I am bad with dames. You gonna forgive me. I
Speaker 2: am bad with names. Oh Lord, tell you what we've
Speaker 2: been reaching on. We've been on here for over two
Speaker 2: hours and we've had a good, steady group of followers
Speaker 2: on here, listeners. So that's awesome. Uh. If you're new
Speaker 2: to this YouTube channel, I do encourage you to send
Speaker 2: us so you know, at least subscribe, because what I
Speaker 2: do for those who don't know. I am the host
Speaker 2: of ECBR Bigfoot Radio, which the online radio is all
Speaker 2: strictly audio, and people miss me doing the live podcasts.
Speaker 2: So now we're doing a live podcast where I will
Speaker 2: upload all this to the radio platform and I am
Speaker 2: working on continue to do this as live video podcast.
Speaker 2: And I appreciate those who are tuning in. This is
Speaker 2: great and in the near future, if you're not follow
Speaker 2: if you don't know what's been going on, I'll touch
Speaker 2: base on a couple things. Ripwick, we are fielding a
Speaker 2: bigfoot series starting in May. It will be called Bigfoot Explorers,
Speaker 2: so we encourage you to follow and subscribe to the
Speaker 2: YouTube channel. So yeah, well we're looking forward to that.
Speaker 2: And the answer quick question is David bringing Melinda uh William.
Speaker 9: It's not my.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's a girl from Dunky Donuts, not Christy Kreen.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Sandra. Sandra said, I have an awesome laugh. Awesome. Well,
Speaker 2: I'm glad I can bring some joy to some people
Speaker 2: with my laugh. I always thought I had a goofy
Speaker 2: sign and laugh, but I laughed the way I laugh anyway,
Speaker 2: So it's whatever. Thank you. H My company does a
Speaker 2: lot of work in Virginia, oh, what kind of work
Speaker 2: do you do? I'm curious. Oh yeah, I love to
Speaker 2: hear about your What kind of work does your company do?
Speaker 2: You know what? My company does a lot of work
Speaker 2: in Virginia because I work here in Virginia. So good deal.
Speaker 2: My company, the company I work for right now, we work.
Speaker 2: They have branches and location and warehouse and factories in
Speaker 2: so many different countries. I can't keep up with it.
Speaker 2: I've just recently learned about some of their vocations, like
Speaker 2: holy crap, oh custom would work? Okay, yeah, William Knighthawk said,
Speaker 2: I love you guys. I love laughing. Laughing is the
Speaker 2: best medicine. H good deal with that. Fune bombs. Oh
Speaker 2: my gosh, was that you nikky niggy always have something
Speaker 2: silly stuff? Wood you would peck? I love it? Oh man,
Speaker 2: We got Woody woodpecker showing up on our front porch
Speaker 2: every morning along with the blue jays, because Woody woodpecker
Speaker 2: is one of the thieve and birds that love to
Speaker 2: eat the bird the cat food out on the front
Speaker 2: of porch. Yeah yeah, lordy, lordy, lordy. If it ain't
Speaker 2: the skunks and the raccoon stealing the cat food, it's
Speaker 2: the birds in the morning.
Speaker 6: Yeah, oh yeah, we outs away.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we do get occasionally, we do get a
Speaker 2: passam at big giant possum that will come around every
Speaker 2: once in a while, but most of the time it's
Speaker 2: the raccoons or the skunks late at night they come around.
Speaker 2: We have a lot of skunks that come around, but
Speaker 2: they're slowly starting to diminish in their quantities because Dad
Speaker 2: sets up us trap in the backyard. We hate the
Speaker 2: skunks around here. One they stink up the area. Two
Speaker 2: they will they are hogs when it comes to the cafoo.
Speaker 2: So Dad will traffic skunks and and yeah, all the
Speaker 2: good stuff, you know.
Speaker 8: But it's mating season right now for the skunks. They
Speaker 8: need all the protein they can get with that cat food.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, well that means, say, well, the temperatures warming up.
Speaker 2: I'm starting to you know, because the temperas are warming
Speaker 2: up enough for them to come out and about now,
Speaker 2: so they're more I see them on the sides of
Speaker 2: the road because they're being hit left and right, you know.
Speaker 2: So because when the temperatures become a certain you know,
Speaker 2: when they get warmer, like they are starting to get now. Uh, yeah,
Speaker 2: they're more. They're on the move more and more down
Speaker 2: So yeah, so uh okay, so tell you what. We're
Speaker 2: coming to an end as much as I want to
Speaker 2: keep going, guys, I want to ask Nikki if there's
Speaker 2: anything that she wants to throw out there for the listeners,
Speaker 2: anything that she wants to throw out there that she
Speaker 2: wants the listeners to know.
Speaker 9: Well, thank you.
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Speaker 2: Nice. Nice. I'm gonna respond to the question to pop
Speaker 2: up your YouTube user Dishizzle for Life is asking when
Speaker 2: I am coming back from Pennsylvania again. I'm actually going
Speaker 2: to be there the first week in June. The Forest
Speaker 2: County Bigfoot Festival happening June sixth and seventh and Marionville, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2: I will be one of the guest speakers for that event. However,
Speaker 2: they get me scheduled to speak on Sunday, which I
Speaker 2: ain't crazy about that because I have my reasons, because
Speaker 2: you know, the main day of the event, most of
Speaker 2: everybody's going to be there on Saturday. But they got
Speaker 2: me scheduled on Sunday. So Yes, come out Sunday, June
Speaker 2: June sixth, seventh, and eighth, So I'll be there on
Speaker 2: the eighth speaking in Marionville, Pennsylvania. However, my I'm scheduled
Speaker 2: to speak at twelve noon on June eighth, and one
Speaker 2: of the things I am currently planning right now. They
Speaker 2: got me booked for a hotel from the first two
Speaker 2: nights and then Sunday after I'm done speaking, There is
Speaker 2: a location where I will be camping out for at
Speaker 2: least two nights. At least two nights. It's about forty
Speaker 2: minutes from Marionville, Pennsylvania, so it's in a primitive location.
Speaker 2: I mapped up the location and it's about barely about
Speaker 2: a mile from a cool waterfall that I learned about.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'll be doing some camping up there the
Speaker 2: first week of June again the Forest County Big Festival
Speaker 2: June sixth, seventh, and eighth, and Marionville, Pennsylvania, I'm speaking
Speaker 2: on the eighth. Also, in the month of August, I
Speaker 2: am will be returning back to Pennsylvania. I'll be participating
Speaker 2: and speaking at one of the Fayette County Bigfoot Research
Speaker 2: Groupe events at the Hiller at Patty Hillman Pass Hillman Park,
Speaker 2: which is located in the Hiller, PA. So I'll be
Speaker 2: speaking there. So yeah, I'll be in Fayette County, Pennsylvania, Marionville, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2: As of right now, those are only two times I'll
Speaker 2: be in Pennsylvania. That could be changed, that could change.
Speaker 2: It all depends, but yeah, look for me in Marionville,
Speaker 2: Pennsylvania again. I'll be speaking on the eighth and again
Speaker 2: in August. The dates, I don't have the top I
Speaker 2: think it's August twelve. I don't have the dates in
Speaker 2: front of me right off the top of my head.
Speaker 2: But if you want to make the trip down to Virginia,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you happening in June twentieth and twenty first,
Speaker 2: and where's k Virginia is the annual East cd O
Speaker 2: Virginia Big for Conference. We have several guest speakers, we
Speaker 2: have all kinds of vendors, Big brit themed, all kinds
Speaker 2: and means. Also happening at our event right here in
Speaker 2: Virginia is the Medieval Renaissance group will be doing demos
Speaker 2: and battles. So yeah, absolutely. Oh crap, I'm glad I
Speaker 2: got my camera turned off because I just dropped my
Speaker 2: phone off the tripod. Yeah so, but yeah, So if
Speaker 2: you want more information on my events and appearance, follow
Speaker 2: me on Facebook. I'm Daniel Binla and you can look
Speaker 2: up I'll try to update some information on my website.
Speaker 2: My website is e CBR founder dot com. If you
Speaker 2: want information regarding the ecb R O Virginia Bigfoot Conference,
Speaker 2: go to www dot ecb R spy. I'm saying it
Speaker 2: wrong www VA Bigfoot con dot com. Uh, that's worth
Speaker 2: of the event in Virginia. So and d Change for
Speaker 2: Life is saying you should check out the MICR State
Speaker 2: Forest and the State Forest is very interesting that you
Speaker 2: mentioned that because the couple that came down from Pennsylvania
Speaker 2: last year. Paul is actually that's the main area that
Speaker 2: he researches. So I've heard some interesting things about the location.
Speaker 2: Perhaps I will have to check that out in the
Speaker 2: near future, but I'll have more time to play around
Speaker 2: after probably towards the end of May, I'll have more
Speaker 2: of a schedule. I'll have some paid time off. I'll
Speaker 2: have the about two weeks paid time off towards the
Speaker 2: end of May, so I can make a little bit
Speaker 2: more flexibility on my schedule by then. But right now,
Speaker 2: I have to watch things for the time being. So absolutely,
Speaker 2: if you want any other information, send me an email.
Speaker 2: Uh ecbro ninety eight at gmail dot com. Again, that's E. C.
Speaker 2: B r O ninety eight at gmail dot com. And
Speaker 2: again I'm gonna repeat myself. If you're new to this
Speaker 2: YouTube channel, please feel free to subscribe because we plan
Speaker 2: on going to live at least once a week, maybe
Speaker 2: twice a week like we did this week. So, uh, David, Melissa,
Speaker 2: do you guys have any other things, any other information
Speaker 2: you want to share out there? Now?
Speaker 5: I think we're I'm good right now, good talking of
Speaker 5: making tonight. Definitely say what people about and what experienced
Speaker 5: a little bit. I've seen a couple of your other
Speaker 5: podcasts in the past and I found very interesting and stuff.
Speaker 5: And we try to spread ourselves out and watch several
Speaker 5: different podcasts, you know, between working schedules.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot out there.
Speaker 9: Yeah, we try to limit now.
Speaker 5: I try to stay with the ones is more on
Speaker 5: my mind, that logical, realistic. I can't get out there
Speaker 5: with all the Outlander stuff. That's not helping the calls
Speaker 5: when when you do that, right, I agree?
Speaker 2: Awesome, Oh absolutely, Nikki, thank you for coming on. I mean,
Speaker 2: we definitely have to have you on again, as long
Speaker 2: as you don't mind our craziness. Fun. It was fun
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 4: You could always have a good show. We can always
Speaker 4: do that.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely absolutely. I only try to I'll try
Speaker 2: to give you guys enough time in advanced you know,
Speaker 2: because like I said, Nikki, I know you cover a
Speaker 2: lot of topics and stuff on your podcast, and you know,
Speaker 2: so I love what you do. Uh, you know, because
Speaker 2: there's been I mean we've been on podcasts together in
Speaker 2: the past, and you know we've covered all kinds of
Speaker 2: different topics. Nothing, right, we come back to certain topics,
Speaker 2: you know, some things need to be brought back up.
Speaker 9: As you know, you know, and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 4: Stacks of shows that I've done. I haven't even filed
Speaker 4: this stuff away yet. And but I've really taken the show,
Speaker 4: you know, to a different level than when I first started,
Speaker 4: but ran it still is Bigfoot, you know. So it's
Speaker 4: hard to come up with new topics and trying to
Speaker 4: turn things around and think of things in different ways.
Speaker 4: So matter of fact, that was my show for last
Speaker 4: Sunday was brainstorming Bigfoot. We were thinking about, you know,
Speaker 4: what people wanted to hear from future shows, and I
Speaker 4: got a lot of good suggestions and we'll see what
Speaker 4: I come up with tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Very awesome, very awesome and Dishizzle for life. I'll check
Speaker 2: your email shortly. I've seen a notification pop up on
Speaker 2: my screen. They sent me an email, So yeah, thanks
Speaker 2: for tuning in tonight the Sisual for Life. Yeah, I'll
Speaker 2: be glad to talk with you and learn more about
Speaker 2: you as well. But yeah, there's so much going on
Speaker 2: coming up in the following months. I mean, we got
Speaker 2: our Bigfoot camp out group investigation in May, where our
Speaker 2: filming for our Bigfoot Explorers series right here on YouTube
Speaker 2: we'll be I'll be uploading all the video footage on
Speaker 2: their I'm excited for that, you know. Like I said,
Speaker 2: the speaking engagements that I'm involved with, I'm looking forward
Speaker 2: to meeting all kinds of people. Over the years, I
Speaker 2: met so many to other like minded people. I've gained
Speaker 2: new fans and followers through that, you know, doing such
Speaker 2: a thing. So you know, I can only be in
Speaker 2: so many places at once. So you know, I know
Speaker 2: a lot of people want me to investigate in their state.
Speaker 2: It's not always easy, you know, in time, I'll eventually
Speaker 2: get to some of these locations. Our main focus is
Speaker 2: right here in our home state of Virginia, because there's
Speaker 2: a lot to focus on right here alone, and we
Speaker 2: want to share the information with the public over time.
Speaker 2: We know what's here. There's a lot of strangest and
Speaker 2: I know for a fact, I will tell you big
Speaker 2: put does exist here in Virginia, not just from our
Speaker 2: own experiences. But you know, you can't dismiss all the
Speaker 2: reports and stories and the sightings that we hear and
Speaker 2: learn about here in Virginia alone, because they continue to
Speaker 2: grow and more and more people starting to come forward
Speaker 2: as they have over the years, so so yeah, guys,
Speaker 2: thank you again and uh you know, so next time,
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