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Speaker 2: This is Big Fight Weekend.

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Speaker 1: Now Here is your host, TJ. Leaves Ah. It is

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October and we are ready to go with another edition

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of the Big Fight Weekend Preview. Hello there, I am

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the somewhat competent host, TJ.

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Speaker 2: Reeves.

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Speaker 1: He is our insider.

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Speaker 1: Hello Dan Rayfield, as I.

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Speaker 3: Come the way of the pod listens from Atlanta, Georgia.

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You come from your home in Northern Virginia. It doesn't

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matter though where we are, as long as the preview pod,

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the recap pod is there for the peeps, for the savages.

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Speaker 1: They don't care where we are. We gonna be on

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Pluto for all they care.

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Speaker 3: Hello Dan Rayfield, Welcome into another edition as we get

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ready for some more action this weekend and in advance

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of the undisputed light heavyweight world title fight. You talked

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to one Dmitri b vol which they're going to have

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a chance to hear on the pod.

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Speaker 1: How are you feeling? How are you feeling as we

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go to the weekend.

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Speaker 4: I'm good, I'm looking forward to a couple of the fights,

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but I'm certainly much more excited for next weekend.

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Speaker 2: Let's be honest, wetfoit.

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Speaker 3: No doubt, no doubt with that card. Okay, follow, Subscribe, Apple, Spreaker, Spotify,

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his boxing interviews, his great coverage of the sport for

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twenty five years. In whatever order you want to spiff

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Speaker 1: Do it.

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Speaker 3: Ratus review US. It does help us out with the algorithms. Again,

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tremendous audience. We want it to grow, We want more

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people to find out about it. So thank you, thank you.

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All Right, so we're going to get into the preview mode.

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We've got Dmitri v Bull. We've got some news. In fact,

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you've got some explaining to do about why the Gervonte

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Speaker 1: Stand By audience stand by. That's coming later in the show.

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Speaker 3: But first, all right, so we have a world title

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fight and we need to disclaim to the audience. Number One,

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we're releasing this podcast a little earlier on Thursday evening

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than what we typically do because we've got the unified

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or is it unified? Ray Field have explained it a

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moment middleway title fight with Janabec and Mikaylovich in Australia.

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So if you're hearing us on Friday morning in your

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normal routine, that fight has already likely happened, depending on

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how early you're listening in the United States, it certainly

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happened very early Friday. Ray Phiel and I are good,

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am I right, Big Dan?

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Speaker 4: But we ain't.

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Speaker 3: We ain't good enough to tell you what happened in

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the Janabec fight early on Friday morning on the preview pot.

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Speaker 1: We're not that good.

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Speaker 3: So that fight is happening early Friday morning, our time,

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Friday night in Sydney, Australia. So we're gonna talk briefly

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about it here because we suppose, do we not? Most

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of the audience when you hear the pod is going

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to know the result. So what's the point in us

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going on for ten minutes about what might happen, because

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most of you, you're feeling me, Big Dan, already know

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what happened in the fight.

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Speaker 1: All right. Nonetheless, that's gonna lead the show off.

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Speaker 2: Here.

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Speaker 3: Just take the audience through it for a couple of

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minutes here on how this thing ended up in Australia.

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We'll give it a little preview, and then they more

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than likely know what happened.

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Speaker 4: Go all right, So, I mean, the long story short

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is they were supposed to fight in the ESPN plus

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Main July rather in Las Vegas, and everybody was there

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and ready to go for the fight. They'd done the

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press conference, and then two nights before the fight, Jenebec

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fainted in his weight cutting process. The way that his

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manager Agus Klemus described this, he was within zero point

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eight pounds of making one hundred and sixty pounds the

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night before the weigh in, and it was very, very

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very hot in Las Vegas, and he went for a

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walk without water and he fainted. And in other words,

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his point was if he hadn't done that, he's still

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had half a day. Basically, they'll get down another point

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eight pounds. He would have done it, but when he

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passed out, they ended up canceling the fight. So he

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didn't make he didn't make the weight, he never went

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to the way and the fight was canceled. And you

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have Andre Mkalovich, his opponent, the mandatory in the ib

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from New Zealand, who had traveled seven thousand miles to

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Las Vegas. There he pissed off because his opportunity to

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fight for the unified world title as well as his

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purse was now gone. And janebec then, you know, within

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a couple of weeks notified the organizations that he was

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going to stay at and middle wait and the IBF

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then ordered another purse bid. When No Limit Boxing, which

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is Mcalavich's promoter and Top Prank, could not make a deal,

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the purspit occurred. No Limit Boxing won the pursepit for

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three hundred and fifty thousand dollars, beat Top Rank shockingly

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by one thousand dollars, which is minuscule in any kind

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of purse bid situation. So on twenty nine days noticed

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this fight was made and it's now in Australia. Now

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Mikalovich is from news. You know, he's a Russian, but

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he's grew up his whole life in New Zealand, so's

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he's not unused to being in Australia, so he's really

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it's his promotion, his his home area, so to speak.

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mentioned about is that the unified titlele Now, Mikalovich's people

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did a very smart thing in my opinion, which is

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as the IBF mandatory fight. They were like, you know what,

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we don't care. We're not fighting for the WBO. And

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the reason was not because he doesn't want to be

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a unified champion, but they felt like from a strategic

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point of view, it was much much more made much

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more sense to do it for just the IBF because

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that would put intense pressure on Channebeck to go through

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and have to go through with a day of the

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fight wait check in the morning, where under IBF rules,

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if you're fighting in an IBF championship fight, you cannot

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gain more than ten pounds at a certain point before

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you know on the morning of the fight, so it

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puts a lot of pressure on you after the way

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in In a unified fight though, that rule is waived,

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so it was going to just be for the IBF. Now,

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on Thursday morning, Eastern time, I got a note from

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one of the people I deal with on a regular

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basis from the WBO explaining what they had done, which

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is they agreed to sanction the fight for the WBO

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belt and Mkalovich's team is on board with it. The

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Janebec team is on board with it, so the WBO says,

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and they have agreed to respect the IBF rules and

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they will still have the morning of weight check even

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in a unified fight. So by the time you're hearing

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this will know because as we're taping this, the weight

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Speaker 1: So because of the difference right in Australia, right right.

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Speaker 4: There's always a chance that Jannebec, who had the big

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problems making no weight the last time, is going to

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struggle to make the ten pounds inside the distance. Now,

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I don't think that would be caused for the fight

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to be canceled. That would probably come down to strictly

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a financial situation. But it's been a very chippy build

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up as short as it's been. They watched the press conference,

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Mikalovich was talking a lot of shit. He basically when

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asked by the moderator, my good pal Ben Damon from Australia,

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if he had anything in conclusion to say directly to Janebec.

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sitting on his chair on their stage, and he said,

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I'm gonna kill you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I've heard a lot of shit at press cards. I

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don't know if I ever actually heard another tell a

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man to his face, I'm going to kill you.

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Speaker 1: I mean he was looking he was looking right his way.

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Speaker 4: I know I was looking at him. So that was

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a little bit off putting. I don't condone or like

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Speaker 1: So you've explained it thoroughly.

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Speaker 3: You explained it thoroughly, and again we're not gonna spend

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Speaker 1: The result has happened. Whatever happened happened.

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Speaker 4: I just want to get the exact quote because I

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just looked in the article that I wrote, so you

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can read the story on my subject. I'm gonna fucking

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kill you is what I'm gonna say. There you go.

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a chip on his shoulder, but he was entertaining at

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Speaker 3: And maybe and maybe he did great. This is the

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fun part of what we do, and maybe he got

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bulldozed by Kazakh style.

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Speaker 1: We don't know.

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Speaker 3: While we're doing the preview, and it's early morning Friday,

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and you probably already know the result. I will say this,

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you and I will do the live bet US Boxing

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We'll talk more about whatever happened in this fight. It'll

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be over with by then live, but here in the

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Thursday night some of you heard this, but Friday, most

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the result of what happened in that title fight. All right,

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so that's not the only world title fight. We fast

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forward to Saturday night and the Queensbury card, and you

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US TV. You were mentioning that with Frank on ESPN Plus.

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Nick Ball defends his featherweight championship. Is WBA Featherweight Championship

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Speaker 1: To with this.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so well, first of all, on the janemickfight. If

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you're hearing it before the fight, that's The stream starts

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you know, I'm all excited about Nick Ball. He's exciting.

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He's in these excellent fights. He's been in a series.

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He's been in about like four four excellent fights in

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a row that I've watched, and now this is going

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to be the first title defense. And at that moment,

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there was nothing set for American TV, and Frank was like, well,

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is where someone's in trouble in the end. I'm not

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sure why it took so long, because normally these things

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are just a matter of fact, but it wasn't done.

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Now it is, this fight hard will stream again on

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ESPN Plus on Saturday, two o'clock Eastern time. You know,

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channels in the UK, but here in America we'll get

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to see this fight. Also, this is Nick Ball making

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the first defense of his WBA featherweight title against Ronnie Rios,

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a very solid veteran who has fought for the Jinger

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Middleway title twice. Perhaps a little bit long in the tooth,

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but Nick Ball, after a series of very tough fights,

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is going home to Liverpool, England have the homecoming fight

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against a reputable veteran butterfight where Nick probably should be

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the significant favor. I haven't seen the odds. I'm sure

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we'll get to that for US show. In any event, Look,

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if you, if you, if you like boxing, how do

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you not like watching Nick Ball fight?

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Speaker 1: Right? TJ.

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Speaker 4: This is a guy who just brings it. He's like

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a little fire hydrant, marches forward, throws a million punches.

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to brawl it out and try to get on the

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inside and just fight to like, you know, tooth and

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nail for every inch of space in that ring. You know,

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I had a little bit of a tough luck situation.

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He looked when he got the title eliminator fight that

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Scored a knockdown and won a very clear decision, almost

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a shoutout on two score cards against Isaac Dogbay, a

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good veteran former junior Featherwick title Older got the opportunity

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then to fight for the WBC title in March against

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ray Vargas. Really good fight. That was one of one

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of the read season cards in March, and he fought

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to a split draw. A lot of people thought that

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nick Ball won the fight. I happen to think that

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ray Varius did just enough to eke it out. But

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I can't really, you know, argue too much, particularly when

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you look at the fact that that nick Ball scored

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knockdowns against Vargas in the eighth and the eleventh round.

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But then whatever your thoughts were about that, they delivered

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another title fight for him, and that was on the

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five versus five card that Troom versus Frank Warren. This

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was on June first, back in Riat and he put

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on another tremendous battle with ray Ford, who was making

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his first defense, and it was a heck of a fight.

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call in the Vargas fight and turned out to be

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a draw, he got to close call against ray Ford.

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It was a split decision and he won very close

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one to fifteen one thirteen on all three cards, but

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two for Nick one ray Ford, so really good fight.

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And then now he goes home for the first offense

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against Ronnie Rios. I mean, I'm sure there'll be a

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big crowd in Liverpool, which has not had a ton

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of champions in recent years, but there's been some and

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that fans turned out. And look, Rios is thirty four

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and four. He's been stopped in his three of the

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four loss seas he's thirty four, he hasn't really been

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the most active in the world, although he did fight

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one fight earlier in the year and he got a

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fifth round knockout. He hadn't didn't fight at all in

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twenty twenty three, lost in his second opportunity to fair

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world title in June of twenty twenty two, got knocked

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out by m j Akmadaliav in challenging for that title.

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That was a twelfth round knockout. That was a pretty

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rough way to go and he had to go back,

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you know, a few years before that in twenty seventeen

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and one of his losses he lost a unanimous decision

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against Ray Vargas. So they have that you know, common opponent,

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but he lost somewhat lopsidedly in the Ray Vargus fight

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back in twenty seventeen for the WBC title. But you

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know what, you can do a lot worse with opponents

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than Ronnie Rios. I have one thing I can tell

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you about Ronnie Rios, having watched him for many, many years.

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You know, I can't say exactly what will happen TODJ.

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But he'll he'll come to fight and he'll give it

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an effort.

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Speaker 3: So I guess we and Nick Ball the same way.

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Is going to get in the pocket, as we like

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to say, or get in the kitchen and look to

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brawl with you. So I'm intrigued to see what happens

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on Saturday afternoon US time, Satday night in Liverpool. Featherweight

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division has been interesting. Let's see, let's see what Ball

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looks like in front of the home folk.

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Speaker 4: This is sort of like the quintessential first defense fighter

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wins the title. They give him a hometown fight. They

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don't match him with the absolute number one contender. They're

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not matching him with a bum or anything like that.

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But they're matching him with a guy that he's supposed

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to be a heavy favorite against but a guy that

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will probably call him to put on a show and

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they'll kind of, you know, thrill the fans at home,

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and you know, Frank's putting a bunch of you know,

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Liverpoolish area fighters on the undercard to help build up

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the area.

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Speaker 1: Anyway.

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Speaker 4: Epitome of a first defense for a guy. And then

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I'm very very confident we'll see Nick if he wins

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back in a significant fight, you know, in his next bout.

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Speaker 3: All right, So again that's the Queensberry card on Saturday afternoon,

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and that leads us to what is next, which is

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the WBA light heavyweight champion Dmitri Bvol undefeated about to

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fight his fellow Russian unbeaten unified heavyweight champion Archer better

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By should I qualified again? We all we hope they're

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fighting in Saudi Arabia twice delayed this showdown fight that's upcoming,

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but you don't have to wait for next week. And

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the whole build up in the press conference is no

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you got a chance to hear Dmitri Bevl right now

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on this podcast with our own Dan Rayfield. Let's go

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to that in the preview mode.

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Speaker 4: Well, it is my great pleasure to welcome back to

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our podcast. For this episode, it's none other than the

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WBA Light Heavyweight Champion, Dmitri Bevo. Dmitri, we're here to

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talk about you have a big, huge fight, a historic fight,

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a fight that I know you have wanted for a

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very long time.

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Speaker 1: It is here.

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Speaker 4: You'll be fighting against Arthur Better BEV, who is the

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lineal champion also has the other three titles that you

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would like to own for the undisputed light heavyweight Championship.

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It will take place October twelfth on a Read Season card,

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the card that opens the new Read Season festival in Riad,

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Saudi Arabia in the United States. The fight is live

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on ESPN Plus. Thank you very much my understanding. As

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you went directly from your press conference with better BV

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that was in London, directly to Read to finish out

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your training camp in Saudi Arabia, how has that been

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going for you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, everything was good. We came here, we.

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Speaker 5: Already start training, we are going to nice gym and

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we have a nice mood. Everything is good now.

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Speaker 4: As I mentioned, Dimitri, I know how significant this fight

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has been. It's a fight that you and your opponent,

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Arthur Better BF have both wanted for a while. You

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both have held versions of the light heavyweight title for

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quite a while, and now this is to settle the

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issue of who is number one. So my main question

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to start off with is what would it mean to

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you to become the first ever four belt light heavyweight champion,

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the undisputed champ, the lineal champ, have no more belts

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to collect you?

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Speaker 2: Sure it could be first. It wasn't Roy Jones before

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in two thousand fall.

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Speaker 4: Maybe well you'll you'll be the first one. I'm going

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to get to a question about Roy Jones, but you'll

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be the first or he if he wins of the

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four belts. Time to have all the four.

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Speaker 2: Belts that time it was three belts. Yeah, yes, sir, okay, okay, okay.

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You know it means a lot. It means.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's just the final step in my career.

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I'm in boxing since nineteen ninety six and all this

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journey was for what was for for this to get

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this chance and to win, and I will try to

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do all my best.

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Speaker 2: Of course, it means a lot.

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Speaker 5: I don't want to even think about it, to be

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because when I start thinking about it, I have a

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goose bump. I'm just trying to think about only the

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fight only because the fight also is really exciting for

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me because he's the most dangerous fighter with one hundred

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percent KO and for me, it's exciting to try my

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skills against this guy.

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Speaker 2: And I'm trying to think about this not about belts.

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Speaker 4: Well, like you mentioned Roy Jones, so I have to

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ask you about the historical nature of the fight. When

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Roy Jones became the undisputed light heavyweight champion, that was

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still when it was three belts that were considered to

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be undisputed. There was the fourth belt, but nobody thought

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you had to have that to be called the undisputed champ.

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And so when he did that, it was nineteen ninety

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nine against Reggie Johnson, and he unified the three belts. Dmitri,

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that is twenty five years ago. It hasn't happened since.

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So when I tell you that, what do you think

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about the nature of that historical aspect of this fight

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that one of you two guys is about to accomplish.

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Speaker 5: Of course, I'm thinking that it's amazing that I could

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be a part of the history. I could mark my

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name and the history. Of course, it's amazing. It's a

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bonus for fighters who's working hard, because it's just kind

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of a luck. You know, a lot of fighters are

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working hard, but the luck is not giving them the

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chance like this. But I got it, and I'm so

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appreciate to universe to I don't know, but I appreciate

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to be the part of historical fight.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm certainly glad that it's happening, but it was

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supposed to have happened, as you know, on June first,

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and unfortunately your opponent, Arthur better Be I've suffered a

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knee injury. He was forced to postpone the fight, and

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I'm wondering. You know, you were hard in training, he

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was hard in training. You're getting ready for the fight.

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How was it to deal with just mentally, to like

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know the work you'd put in and all of a

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sudden it's it's delayed again. You've been waiting for it

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for a long time, and you've got to now go

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through another couple of months and start over again really

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preparing for the fight.

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Speaker 5: To be honest, I'm trying to think positive about everything.

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What's happening with me at that time. I just okay,

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he injured it. This is sport. This is boxing, it's

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professional sport. It could be laid this. I just need

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to not be stuck in this point. I have to

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move forward and I will give this chance again. And

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I got another fight. I checked my skills and I

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trained more. Maybe it's it's for better.

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Speaker 4: So like you said, you went through and you fought anyway.

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You stayed active. They were able to get you into

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opponent for that June first card. They just you know,

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instead of being in the main event, they moved you

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down some of those other fights, took pressent over that,

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and you scored a pretty impressive six round knockout against

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Maliku's in not I just wonder before you got into

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the fight, when you knew that the fight between yourself

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and Arthur was postponed. At any time, did you consider

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not fighting and not risking the fight, because you never

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know what's going to happen when the bell rings. You

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could get injured, you could get cut, you could lose,

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and there goes the undisputed fight.

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Speaker 5: To Don, didn't worry too much about it because I

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just was focused on the fight on my leak to guest,

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and I didn't know what in his head. He could

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be very serious to this fight or put he could

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even win win. Yeah, because he's young, he's he never lost.

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And I didn't think too much about better beef fights

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that time. When I realized that the fight is the postponed,

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I just forget, forgot about better beef and I was

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thinking about Malik, and I didn't have anything in my mind.

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This is how I'm trying to think always. If you

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were thinking about Maleiku, about the bitter beef, about somebody else,

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you were just fighting in your head against the three

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two guys.

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Speaker 2: You know you should do it. You should think about

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only one.

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Speaker 4: So when you fought, when you fought my league, I mean,

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you got your first knockout since twenty eighteen, you had

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gone nine fights without a knockout. I've seen you score

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some very nice knockouts. I wonder how satisfying it was

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it to get back in a knockout on your record,

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And were you at all sort of ever concerned that

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you'd been, you know, such a while without getting a knockout.

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 5: You know, you know I was trying to I'm sorry,

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somebody was calling.

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Speaker 2: You know. I didn't think too much about about knockouts.

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Speaker 5: I was just focused more about to be winner of

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each fight which I got, and to be active and

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to be available for the chance when I give it,

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when I have it. I just have to be ready

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for the chance, like like this time, I got a chance,

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and I'm ready. I have my belt, I have my health,

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and I can I can fight.

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Speaker 2: I didn't worry about knockouts or not no cuts.

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Speaker 4: You did mention a minute ago about how you know

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you wanted to test your skills against him, especially because

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he is a fighter who has one hundred percent knockout percentage.

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He's knocked out all twenty opponents that he has faced

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as the professional. Now, I know you haven't been hit

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by him yet, but I assume you're familiar with the record.

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I guess you probably have watched at least a little

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bit of him on video. I just wonder before you

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face him, when you see that knockout, the number of knockouts,

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he asked, how do you in your mind assess his

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power between that and maybe what you have seen if

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you've watched any videos of him.

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Speaker 5: He's really strong. He born to be strong. You know,

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some people are born with good speed, with good movements,

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with good something. But he born just strong guy. It's

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not even about his punch. His body is strong. If

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you look at him, how he moves, how he is,

476
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,960
how he's wrestling, when he's.

477
00:23:02,559 --> 00:23:05,519
Speaker 2: In the clinch, you can see that he's just strong.

478
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:10,599
Speaker 5: And and what you I just need to deal with this.

479
00:23:11,079 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 4: I've watched him push ups on his fingertips. You can

480
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:14,119
tell he's strong.

481
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, he's doing a lot of things which shows

482
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:20,400
that he's strong.

483
00:23:20,519 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 2: But you could you could see it just on the

484
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:23,880
ring that he's strong.

485
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 4: So of all the all the fighters you have faced

486
00:23:26,039 --> 00:23:28,319
and Demitia, you have faced a lot of outstanding fighters

487
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,519
in your career. Who has hit you the hardest so far?

488
00:23:34,799 --> 00:23:37,000
I think maybe like Joe Smith comes to mind.

489
00:23:37,039 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 5: Maybe you know, there is a different strong punches, you know,

490
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,119
like with the With.

491
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:47,079
Speaker 2: The Smith, it's like.

492
00:23:48,519 --> 00:23:55,079
Speaker 5: Heavy, just heavy punches, you know, slow heavy, but it's hurting.

493
00:23:55,559 --> 00:24:01,079
With Pascal, he's more explos close, if you know, and

494
00:24:01,519 --> 00:24:06,920
sharp sharp sharp stone with better beefs.

495
00:24:07,559 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 2: He's just not like heavy. He's just like stones.

496
00:24:13,039 --> 00:24:16,839
Speaker 5: His arms like some concrete arms.

497
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 4: It looks like so he you know, we know how

498
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,720
good he is because we've seen him also against top opponents.

499
00:24:23,279 --> 00:24:25,200
You have the common opponent of Joe Smith, who we

500
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,400
knocked out very easily. You know what, you went very

501
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,519
deep into that fight. But he is thirty nine years old.

502
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:35,200
He has been more inactive than you and I wonder

503
00:24:35,279 --> 00:24:38,240
and he's had injury issues. Have you noticed any slippage

504
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,240
in him or do you expect to see the meet

505
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,599
an Arthur better Beef at the absolute top of his

506
00:24:43,599 --> 00:24:45,279
game when you get in the ring with him.

507
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 5: Of course, I'm trying to think about that he will

508
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:54,400
be in the best shape because it's.

509
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 2: Just respects to the opponent.

510
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 4: Okay, fair enough, I want to ask you, I mean,

511
00:24:59,559 --> 00:25:01,839
this was of interesting to me. Is just not that

512
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,119
long ago. We had Canelo Alvarez. He fought his fight,

513
00:25:05,599 --> 00:25:10,200
defended the super middleweight title against Berlanga on September fourteenth,

514
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,240
and what he said after that fight was he wanted

515
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:13,880
to stay in the super middleweight division. He didn't have

516
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,240
any desire to go back to light heavyweight, except if

517
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,680
you were to beat Arthur Better Biev to get a

518
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,240
shot at you for the undisputed title in a rematch. Obviously,

519
00:25:23,319 --> 00:25:25,319
I know you got a very significant fight that's sitting

520
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:26,640
right in front of you. But in the back of

521
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,319
your mind, I know there was conversations about you and

522
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,720
Canelo having a rematch. At one point it didn't happen.

523
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,480
Are you open to a rematch if you're the victor

524
00:25:34,559 --> 00:25:36,839
in this fight and doing it in defense of your

525
00:25:36,839 --> 00:25:39,880
titles at one hundred and seventy five pounds.

526
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 5: You know, we didn't talk with him at all about

527
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,400
pretty much. We didn't have any conversations. He didn't have

528
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:53,640
any conversations with our team, but he.

529
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,640
Speaker 2: Was talking about it. And now it's the same.

530
00:25:56,319 --> 00:26:01,599
Speaker 5: She's saying, But ooh, I need to fight against Bitter

531
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,799
B and then we will see some options.

532
00:26:05,559 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 2: What will happen. I hope I will win.

533
00:26:08,519 --> 00:26:10,759
Speaker 5: I will try to do all my best, but now

534
00:26:10,799 --> 00:26:14,759
I'm focused on Bitter B fight for the Canala. I'm

535
00:26:14,799 --> 00:26:20,240
open for everybody who wants to make big fights.

536
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 2: I was opened before and I will be open after.

537
00:26:24,079 --> 00:26:27,079
Speaker 4: Also, my recollection, Demetri is that when you were open

538
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,400
to that before, though he wanted to fight you at

539
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,359
one hundred and seventy five, your thought was, you know what,

540
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:32,839
I'd like to fight him again, but do it at

541
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,079
one hundred and sixty eight to try to become the

542
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,200
undisputed champ in the one sixty eight well way class.

543
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,440
So when you say you're open to it, are you

544
00:26:40,519 --> 00:26:42,480
open to it at one hundred and seventy five pounds?

545
00:26:44,559 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 5: Doesn't matter, you know, one hundred and seventy five, one

546
00:26:48,559 --> 00:26:52,119
sixty I was talking about this on media. Yeah, I

547
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:56,279
prefer to fight one six state for his belt. But

548
00:26:56,839 --> 00:27:05,799
how we all know, how how how do you am

549
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,920
making in boxing? There were no negotiations at all.

550
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 2: You know, you're saying on the.

551
00:27:13,559 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 5: On the media that you want to fight once sixteed,

552
00:27:16,519 --> 00:27:20,079
but let's let's talk about one seventy five. This is

553
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:25,079
our offer for you or something. We didn't have this,

554
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,160
We didn't discuss, discuss anything.

555
00:27:28,279 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 2: And it just just nothing. We just now it's useless

556
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:35,200
to talk about it.

557
00:27:35,279 --> 00:27:37,799
Speaker 4: You know, now, when I when a when a fighter

558
00:27:37,799 --> 00:27:40,599
becomes the undisputed champion, I know you have every intention

559
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,880
of doing that by beating better Be because you got

560
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,680
all the belts. You also got all the mandatories and

561
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,440
all the other guys that you that the organizations want

562
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,480
you to fight, and you'll be you'll be uh at

563
00:27:51,519 --> 00:27:53,359
some point. I guess you have you know, a very

564
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,119
deep group of opponents because you've got other guys with

565
00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:00,000
interim and regular titles that David Morrell and Bwatzi who

566
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,200
just got an interim title, and obviously David Benavitez is there.

567
00:28:03,519 --> 00:28:05,599
When you look at the landscape of your weight class,

568
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,039
besides yourself and better bef, who do you think stands

569
00:28:09,079 --> 00:28:11,799
out as guys that could you know, be a challenge

570
00:28:11,799 --> 00:28:13,400
to you at some point in the future.

571
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 5: These names to which you say, of course, all these guys,

572
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:23,920
it could be my opponents in the future, just the

573
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:28,200
one of the best fighters in our weight division, in

574
00:28:28,279 --> 00:28:30,680
our weight class, of course it could be.

575
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,079
Speaker 4: So I want to just wrap up with this. When

576
00:28:33,079 --> 00:28:35,359
I think about the match between yourself and better Bev

577
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,839
and the way that it might go h looking at

578
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,480
it from the outside, I think the general thought from

579
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,160
many people is, you know, as we've talked about Arthur

580
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:48,160
Better BV, just a massive puncher, great knockout artist, really strong,

581
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,039
as you saw talked about. And then there's Dmitri Bevil

582
00:28:52,079 --> 00:28:54,480
can punch a little bit, certainly, but but really more

583
00:28:54,519 --> 00:28:58,079
well known for just great skills, good defense, you know,

584
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:02,279
quick hands, and that it's like whichever guy can impose

585
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,160
their style that it would come down to either he

586
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,279
can knock you out or dmitriy Vivo can out box him.

587
00:29:08,559 --> 00:29:10,799
I wonder your thoughts about how you think that the

588
00:29:10,839 --> 00:29:14,279
fight goes, and if that description you know is the

589
00:29:14,279 --> 00:29:15,960
same as what you think the way the fight will go.

590
00:29:16,319 --> 00:29:21,160
Your skills and great boxing ability against his tremendous punching power.

591
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:24,119
Speaker 2: Uh.

592
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 5: You know, in my head a lot of different scenarios

593
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:33,720
and that which you said, he could knock me out

594
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,920
or I could out boxing. Of course there is also

595
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:43,319
uh and everything could happen. This is boxing. But the

596
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:48,039
main thing that I have to be the best version

597
00:29:48,079 --> 00:29:53,119
of dmitriy Vivo. I cannot create anything new, just be realistic.

598
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:57,319
He cannot create anything new for this short time.

599
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:00,279
Speaker 2: We will us.

600
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 5: Be ourself and doing and we'll win that one who's

601
00:30:07,119 --> 00:30:11,319
more focus and who feels himself.

602
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 4: Better in this At this day, I understand that.

603
00:30:15,839 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 2: Well.

604
00:30:16,039 --> 00:30:18,279
Speaker 4: I have to tell you, Demetria, I've been saying this

605
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,400
for a long time, ever since this fight was made

606
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,160
that to me, this is the best boxing match on

607
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,279
the boxing calendar for the entire year of twenty twenty four,

608
00:30:27,319 --> 00:30:29,759
and there's been a lot of tremendous matchups, so I'm

609
00:30:29,759 --> 00:30:31,359
really looking forward to it. I wish you the best

610
00:30:31,359 --> 00:30:33,319
of luck in the fight, and I really thank you

611
00:30:33,359 --> 00:30:34,599
for doing this today. I appreciate it.

612
00:30:35,519 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 2: Thank you so much.

613
00:30:36,279 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 3: Then that more than what's our appetite for this undisputed

614
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,960
title fight, I always ask you this because I like

615
00:30:45,039 --> 00:30:47,119
the extra benefit of all right, you got to take

616
00:30:47,119 --> 00:30:48,720
a look at him and see him a little bit there.

617
00:30:48,759 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: What do you think? What do you think about what

618
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,839
you saw in advance a fight week for these guys.

619
00:30:53,319 --> 00:30:55,279
Speaker 4: Dmitri Bieble has dialed in for this fight. I mean,

620
00:30:55,319 --> 00:30:57,640
I can tell I've interviewed Dimiti Bibo numerous times over

621
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:01,240
the years, dialed in ready to go. Always a pleasure

622
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,599
to interview. But I did sense not a bad way,

623
00:31:04,799 --> 00:31:06,680
because he's always a gentleman in terms of what he's

624
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,240
doing his media. But I definitely could sense a little

625
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,759
bit of an edge there, Like like we did the

626
00:31:12,759 --> 00:31:15,359
interview obviously this week, so he's, you know, he's a

627
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,599
full week plus before the actual fight, but he's already

628
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,960
seems like he's got his game face on, so to speak.

629
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,200
And you know, I thought that the thing that struck

630
00:31:25,279 --> 00:31:26,640
me was one of the questions when I asked them,

631
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,519
people could hear that when we were talking about the

632
00:31:28,599 --> 00:31:31,240
historical nature of the fight, which is, if he wins

633
00:31:31,839 --> 00:31:33,680
or whoever wins, is going to be the first four

634
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:38,279
belt light heavyweight undisputed champion ever and the first undisputed

635
00:31:38,319 --> 00:31:41,160
champion period going back to the three belt timeframe when

636
00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:44,640
Roy Jones accomplished that in nineteen ninety nine to unify

637
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,839
the three belts against Reggie Johnson. And you could tell

638
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,960
when looking at him when I asked him about what

639
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,240
his thoughts were about that that biopole. I won't say

640
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,240
he got choked up, but it was like it was

641
00:31:55,279 --> 00:31:59,640
like whoa, Like he's trying to process that I have

642
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,839
a chance to do something that has only been done,

643
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,319
hasn't been done in twenty five years, and when it

644
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,039
was done was by one of the greatest fighters in

645
00:32:08,039 --> 00:32:10,519
the history of the sport, Roy Jones Junior. So the

646
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,720
magnitude of the history is not lost on Dimitian Bible.

647
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,519
Even though he says, I'm trying to put it out

648
00:32:15,519 --> 00:32:16,799
of my mind because if I keep thinking about it,

649
00:32:16,799 --> 00:32:18,960
I'm gonna, you know, I get the goosebumps stuff. So

650
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:21,839
they these guys know what a big deal this say is.

651
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,200
And you know, as he said, you know, sometimes it's

652
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:25,519
lost on us because we just want to see a

653
00:32:25,559 --> 00:32:29,480
good fight. This man, and better Be presumably also who's

654
00:32:29,519 --> 00:32:32,839
older than him as well, has worked to this moment

655
00:32:33,519 --> 00:32:37,480
for his entire life, since he's picked up gloves when

656
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,599
he was like six years old. And everything comes down

657
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,559
to ding ding what happens on October twelfth. Everything you

658
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,960
work for, your whole life is down to that one fight,

659
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,119
that one you know less than an hour to see

660
00:32:50,119 --> 00:32:52,480
if you can solidify your legacy for all time.

661
00:32:52,599 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 3: And and as you said, they will be the back

662
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,319
half of the question. Roy Jones did it in ninety nine,

663
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:04,079
and twenty five years later, Blank did it again. Unless dear,

664
00:33:04,119 --> 00:33:05,599
oh god, am I going to bring it up, unless

665
00:33:05,599 --> 00:33:08,359
it's a draw, or unless it doesn't we're gett We're

666
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:08,880
not gonna do that.

667
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:09,559
Speaker 1: We're not gonna do.

668
00:33:09,519 --> 00:33:11,559
Speaker 4: We got twenty where we were getting to a fight

669
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,480
that we wanted to see in terms of an unisputed

670
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,279
four belt title fight. A couple years ago, you know,

671
00:33:15,759 --> 00:33:18,039
Charlot and Castania did fight to a draw, and that

672
00:33:18,079 --> 00:33:19,920
they did the re thata what the draw sucked? Anyway?

673
00:33:20,079 --> 00:33:22,559
Speaker 3: All right, So that's next week. Good stuff there with

674
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,599
Dimitri Bevill. Let's get to some news. Let's get to

675
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:31,519
some nostalgia, Raphael Travonte Davis is in fact fighting Lamont Roach.

676
00:33:31,759 --> 00:33:34,000
It is in fact in December, on a different day

677
00:33:34,079 --> 00:33:37,039
than what you were talking about. But what in the

678
00:33:37,079 --> 00:33:39,519
wide wide world of sports is going on here? Because

679
00:33:39,519 --> 00:33:41,880
you sold me, you were selling it and I was

680
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:47,240
buying it that this fight has Washington d C sizzle?

681
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,880
Why is the fight in Houston, Texas? According to your reporting?

682
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,200
What is going on here?

683
00:33:52,319 --> 00:33:52,839
Speaker 1: What is up?

684
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,359
Speaker 4: Well, the fight's gonna take place December fourteenth, which was

685
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,200
always a possibility. What I reported on was there was

686
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,799
also the possibility that they were to go on December

687
00:34:00,839 --> 00:34:03,920
twenty first, The fourteenth was always one of the dates

688
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,720
they were looking at. And yes, this is a Washington

689
00:34:07,759 --> 00:34:11,280
d C fight obviously, because Gervonte Davis is immensely popular

690
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,559
in the district. He comes from Baltimore. So that's our region.

691
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,599
I say our because I live here, you know, I live.

692
00:34:18,039 --> 00:34:20,679
We call it the DMV the District Maryland, Virginia. I

693
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,079
live in the V for Virginia. You know. Gervante is

694
00:34:24,119 --> 00:34:26,440
from the M the Maryland, and Lamont is from the

695
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,199
d D the district. When he fought here against Hector Leias, Carcia.

696
00:34:30,199 --> 00:34:32,920
It was a huge event against an unknown opponent, had

697
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,559
no ties to Washington, did the biggest gate in the

698
00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:37,079
history of the Capitol One Arena, almost five point two

699
00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:39,679
million dollars, better than a Rolling Stones concert, which was

700
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,480
the previous record. Arena has been there for you know,

701
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,079
probably close to twenty five or thirty years anyway, So

702
00:34:46,519 --> 00:34:49,440
they could have done this fight on December twenty first

703
00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:53,320
at the Capitol One Arena which was available. But the

704
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,519
PBC people think this is my reporting from what I

705
00:34:55,599 --> 00:34:57,719
am told by different folks that are involved with the event,

706
00:34:58,199 --> 00:34:59,960
They would have loved to do the fight in Washington

707
00:35:01,599 --> 00:35:03,639
because of the fact that it's a great rivalry fight.

708
00:35:03,679 --> 00:35:06,000
They fought each other as amateurs. Roach has his own

709
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,400
fan base here in the district. He drew a nice

710
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,360
crab when he had a defense here back a couple

711
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:14,679
of months ago. However, they really finally, you know, when

712
00:35:14,679 --> 00:35:16,039
you got to make a decision, you got to make

713
00:35:16,079 --> 00:35:17,760
a decision, and with a lot of money on the line.

714
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,320
For the amount of money that's going to be involved

715
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,199
in this fight, I think two things came into play.

716
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,320
I know two things came into play. One they didn't

717
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,039
love the fact that it was so close to Christmas,

718
00:35:26,599 --> 00:35:28,159
but more than that, because I think they would have

719
00:35:28,199 --> 00:35:31,239
done that. More than that, they were a little They

720
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,000
understandably they didn't want to put a second pay per

721
00:35:34,079 --> 00:35:36,840
view on December twenty first, because remember that's the same

722
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,599
date as the rematch between Tyson Fury and Alexander Usak.

723
00:35:40,599 --> 00:35:43,480
Now that fight's taking place in Saudi Arabia. The first

724
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,039
fight that took place earlier in the year in Saudi

725
00:35:45,039 --> 00:35:47,920
Arabia did terrible on pay per view in America, right,

726
00:35:48,159 --> 00:35:51,320
But they still they didn't want to go up against that,

727
00:35:52,199 --> 00:35:55,480
maybe out of some respect for boxing fans, which I doubt,

728
00:35:55,519 --> 00:35:58,599
but still it's maybe possible. But I think also they realize,

729
00:35:58,639 --> 00:36:02,599
you know what, when the Saudist Turkey al Chic in

730
00:36:02,639 --> 00:36:05,760
particular was a force that lowered the price on some

731
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,360
pay per views. Remember they're doing this the Bevault Better

732
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,079
BF fight not in America but around the rest of

733
00:36:11,079 --> 00:36:13,760
the world for the full cardjoinly like fifteen bucks the

734
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,800
rest of the card fifteen bucks in America, even though

735
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,800
the main events on ESPN Plus they did a much

736
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,440
lesser price point for the Anthony Joshua fight that just

737
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:26,000
took place against Dania Dubois. That was twenty bucks in America,

738
00:36:26,039 --> 00:36:28,280
and I feel like, you know, if Turkey felt like

739
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,400
he was being competed with on the same day where

740
00:36:31,519 --> 00:36:34,119
PBC has its model where they're charging seventy five or

741
00:36:34,159 --> 00:36:36,280
eighty dollars for a fight, and now you got the

742
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,239
same day, you got a serious fight. Like you know,

743
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,000
fury U sick too, he might say fuck it and

744
00:36:42,039 --> 00:36:43,920
also charge twenty bucks, and then it puts them in

745
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,760
a real bad spot. So they you know, they they

746
00:36:47,039 --> 00:36:49,199
made the only decision that they could in my opinion,

747
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,840
for all those different reasons. And they're going on the fourteenth.

748
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,440
Now you say, well, when I'd just go in the

749
00:36:53,519 --> 00:36:55,840
DC area on the fourteenth, Well, they wanted to be

750
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,000
a Capital One arena, which was the primary arena in

751
00:36:58,039 --> 00:37:00,960
this area, and that that day is taken up by

752
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,400
a Washington Capital's NHL game against the Buffalo Sabers. Now,

753
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,800
if it's a concert, if it's some other event, you

754
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,440
can sometimes work things out, maybe pay them to move

755
00:37:09,519 --> 00:37:12,400
do something like that. You're not paying the NHL.

756
00:37:12,519 --> 00:37:14,639
Speaker 1: That's the NHL playing that I agree with you.

757
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,079
Speaker 4: I mean the Wizards of the NBA and the Capitals

758
00:37:17,119 --> 00:37:19,280
of the NHL are the primary tenants of the building

759
00:37:19,519 --> 00:37:21,880
and it's their season they're not getting so they go

760
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,400
to Houston to the Toyota Center, where I've covered fights before.

761
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:26,960
One of the great fights they ever covered, by the way,

762
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,039
two thousand and nine Fight of the Year, the first

763
00:37:29,039 --> 00:37:32,320
fight between Juan Manuel Marquez and Houston's own Wan Dias.

764
00:37:32,679 --> 00:37:35,679
Gervante has wanted to fight in Houston. They were thinking

765
00:37:35,679 --> 00:37:37,599
about doing the Frank Martin fight in Houston before it

766
00:37:37,599 --> 00:37:40,320
wound up in Las Vegas. Tank loves the fact that

767
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,599
he can sell a ton of tickets and go and play,

768
00:37:42,639 --> 00:37:45,639
you know, do his stuff in all different cities. When

769
00:37:45,679 --> 00:37:47,559
I thought about this, TJ and this is a very

770
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,719
significant thing in my mind. The last American star level

771
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,920
fighter that really traveled the country and fought all over

772
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,880
the place, not just in New York, not just in Vegas,

773
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,000
not just in LA was Roy Jones. Roy fought in Florida.

774
00:38:01,119 --> 00:38:03,039
Roy fought in New York, he fought in LA he

775
00:38:03,079 --> 00:38:05,599
fought in Vegas, he fought in Portland, Oregon, he fought

776
00:38:05,599 --> 00:38:08,480
in Mississippi. I mean, he fought all over the United States.

777
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,960
He fought in the Connecticut casinos. Right, Hank has done

778
00:38:12,039 --> 00:38:16,519
business in London, New York, Los Angeles, Las Vegas, Atlanta.

779
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,239
You know, he's traveled all over Baltimore, Washington, and so

780
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,800
Houston is appealing to him. I apparently he has family there.

781
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,840
There's obviously a big African American community there. It kind

782
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,880
of touches a lot of bases that he wants to touch.

783
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,639
So they're going in Houston on December fourteenth. It's a

784
00:38:31,639 --> 00:38:33,760
PBC pay per view. It has not been announced yet.

785
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,440
Tank alluded on his Instagram to being in Houston. Did

786
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:40,039
not name the opponent, but I've talked to multiple sources

787
00:38:40,079 --> 00:38:42,280
who are directly involved with this event. It will be

788
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,440
Lamont Roach. It will be December fourteenth, it will be

789
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,079
the Toyota Center in Houston. It will be a PBC

790
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,800
on Prime pay per view. End of story.

791
00:38:50,199 --> 00:38:53,079
Speaker 3: There you go from mister Rayfield with the explanation and

792
00:38:53,159 --> 00:38:55,639
just one more note and we're moving on. This also

793
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,360
keeps them off the December twenty first date. And this

794
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:02,039
is not a thing to just dismiss. The college football

795
00:39:02,079 --> 00:39:04,559
Playoff for the first time ever, is expanded and they've

796
00:39:04,599 --> 00:39:08,039
got four playoff games throughout the day, the afternoon and

797
00:39:08,079 --> 00:39:11,519
that night, and there are two NFL games being played,

798
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,079
including the Chiefs with Patrick Mahomes, and that is a

799
00:39:15,159 --> 00:39:18,639
factor on how much attention span are you going to

800
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,360
draw away from all the football fans for a boxing

801
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,719
pay per view if you're on that date for two

802
00:39:25,119 --> 00:39:28,719
So that's another I didn't I mean, is another thing

803
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,679
they considered, especially with what they're going to charge. And

804
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,760
so now it's on the fourteenth. So well explained on that,

805
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,920
all right, quickly, A couple of more things. The Hall

806
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,280
of Fame ballots are out for the class of twenty

807
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:39,760
twenty five.

808
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:41,679
Speaker 1: Some guy named Paqiao.

809
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 3: I think he's getting in. It's his first year of eligibility.

810
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,440
What else of note from the Hall of Fame ballot release?

811
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 2: Real quick?

812
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 4: So yeah, a few years ago they changed the eligibility

813
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,280
rules from being or not retired because some guys don't

814
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,840
necessarily retire, but having had your last fight after five years,

815
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,039
now now it's down to three years. So many is

816
00:40:02,199 --> 00:40:04,840
now in that in that time frame where his last

817
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,480
fight was three years ago. So obviously, Uh, he will

818
00:40:07,519 --> 00:40:10,400
be a first ballot induction. Uh, it's I don't know.

819
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,239
They don't release the percentages when the Hall of Fame

820
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:16,159
announces the inductees. But you know, I gotta believe he's

821
00:40:16,199 --> 00:40:18,639
going to be as close to uh, you know, at

822
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,719
you know, one hundred percent as anybody could get. I

823
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,639
mean if you're not, if you're a voter in the

824
00:40:22,639 --> 00:40:25,239
Boxing Hall of Fame and you're not voting for any

825
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,519
pakaut for the Hall of Fame, then you should go

826
00:40:27,559 --> 00:40:30,360
fuck yourself. Yes, I mean that's just the reality.

827
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,079
Speaker 3: I thought I was gonna say it the more polite way.

828
00:40:32,119 --> 00:40:35,639
You shouldn't be a voter, but youre abrasive, abrupt ray

829
00:40:35,639 --> 00:40:36,239
Field way.

830
00:40:36,159 --> 00:40:36,639
Speaker 1: Which I like.

831
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,760
Speaker 4: I mean, Look, he's he's he's his locked automatic.

832
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 1: He's a first ballot, unanimous Hall of Famer, has.

833
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,079
Speaker 4: To be eight division world champion, one of the biggest

834
00:40:44,119 --> 00:40:45,519
draws in the history of the sport, one of those

835
00:40:45,559 --> 00:40:48,320
popular fighters in the great fight time and again, a

836
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,760
resume that's longer than your arm. Uh, you'll fight everybody,

837
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,039
even in the losses. He fought top guys. I mean,

838
00:40:54,159 --> 00:40:58,119
just there's there's there's no other definition. He's as Hall

839
00:40:58,159 --> 00:41:00,440
of Fame as as any great you can think of,

840
00:41:00,519 --> 00:41:02,039
you know, whether you want talk about Mohammad Ali or

841
00:41:02,079 --> 00:41:05,320
sugar Atte Robinson or his more contemporaries like Floyd Mayweather

842
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,079
would beat him, of course, or you know, any of

843
00:41:07,079 --> 00:41:09,639
the other greats of the modern times. Anyway, So he's

844
00:41:09,679 --> 00:41:12,199
the biggest name on the ballot, and I must be

845
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:16,039
honest with you, I'm very disappointed with the others who

846
00:41:16,039 --> 00:41:18,159
are on the ballot for the first time. It's a

847
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,639
very weak first class of group of guys. I will

848
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,639
definitely be voting for Manny Pacio and my other selections

849
00:41:24,679 --> 00:41:27,320
when I get the ballot was put out when they

850
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,960
announced to the first time once. I actually am waiting

851
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,039
to get my paper ballot in the mail, which were

852
00:41:32,039 --> 00:41:34,800
mailed out Monday, so today is Thursday. I should have

853
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,880
it hopefully by tomorrow or Saturday, and then you have

854
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:39,599
to fill him out, send him back, and they'll announce

855
00:41:39,639 --> 00:41:43,800
the results sometime in early December. So I'll be voting first.

856
00:41:44,079 --> 00:41:45,760
I'll be voting for the holdovers that have been on

857
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,840
the ballot, so the other first timers, and it's not

858
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,320
a disrespect to them, but I don't feel like any

859
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,400
of them touches the box of like your first ballot

860
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:53,679
Hall of Famer, or even a Hall of Famer at

861
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,880
all for that matter. One of them and I wouldn't

862
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:58,920
even put this guy on the ballot. And that's Lucian Butte,

863
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,239
Lucian Bute's former super mid away title holder from Canada,

864
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,079
where he became a big star. When he finally stepped

865
00:42:05,159 --> 00:42:07,239
up to fight a top notch guy uh in a

866
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,559
fight that I was ringside for in in Nottingham, England,

867
00:42:11,039 --> 00:42:14,239
Carl Frotch knocked him the fuck out, Uh, you know

868
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:15,920
he and then he had a foul drug test later.

869
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,239
I mean, just there's no there's nothing on his record

870
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,239
that would indicate should be a Hall of Famer. That's ridiculous.

871
00:42:22,519 --> 00:42:26,039
The other two are are guys who have more of

872
00:42:26,039 --> 00:42:28,360
a case, but I still don't think more of a

873
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,599
case to be on the ballot before such guys who've

874
00:42:31,639 --> 00:42:34,400
been overlooked for years and years and years, guys I've

875
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,360
advocated to be on the ballot. And again I'm not

876
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,800
even saying I would vote for them, but I very

877
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:43,840
strongly believe fighters like Chris Bird and Vernon Forrest, Marlin Starling,

878
00:42:44,039 --> 00:42:45,719
this three, off the top of my head, should be

879
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,440
on the bout. If you don't know about them, go

880
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,320
look them up. Not that complicated, but the two the

881
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,519
other and they only put you know, three or four

882
00:42:53,559 --> 00:42:56,079
guys on the ballot each year. The other two besides

883
00:42:56,119 --> 00:42:59,920
Boute they've had is Mikey Garcia, who won four title

884
00:43:00,159 --> 00:43:04,440
in four weight classes, junior welterweight, lightweight, junior lightweight, and featherweight.

885
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,920
But it's one of the softest. If there's such thing

886
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,320
as being a champion in four division, that's a soft

887
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,719
way getting there. Mikey had it in a soft way.

888
00:43:12,199 --> 00:43:13,800
The only one I can think of that was softer

889
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,559
was Adrian Broner. In terms of four division champions, doesn't

890
00:43:17,599 --> 00:43:20,119
really have a defining victory in my mind, unless you

891
00:43:20,199 --> 00:43:23,400
count a unification victory against Robert Easter, who never really

892
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:27,320
went beyond his lightweights, you know, and now is basically retired.

893
00:43:27,519 --> 00:43:29,119
And the other one is Sean Porter, who was a

894
00:43:29,199 --> 00:43:31,559
very popular figure and you know it was in some

895
00:43:31,639 --> 00:43:35,320
excellent fights, two times welterweight title holder. But that's your

896
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,159
first that's your group of first ballot guys. That to me,

897
00:43:38,599 --> 00:43:40,239
I was I was sort of like, wow, that's not

898
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,840
the deepest thing I've ever seen in my life. And

899
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:44,400
then some of the other folks that added. I won't

900
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,519
go through the entire list because everybody is, uh, you

901
00:43:46,519 --> 00:43:48,920
know there's a bunch of categories. There's six different categories,

902
00:43:49,199 --> 00:43:51,719
but in the women's you got yes to get Chavez

903
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,239
from Mexico two division title holder as well as the

904
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:58,599
Canadian two division titleder Jessica RACOUSEI TJ. I've said it before,

905
00:43:58,639 --> 00:44:02,639
I'm gonna say it again. The women's category is something

906
00:44:02,679 --> 00:44:05,519
that does Hall of Fame rightfully added a few years ago.

907
00:44:05,599 --> 00:44:08,079
It should be there. There's plenty of excellent women who

908
00:44:08,119 --> 00:44:10,199
aren't that conversation to be in the Hall of Fame,

909
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,320
and I have endorsed that, and I applaud that, and

910
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,719
I'm glad that there's a women's category. However, in the

911
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:19,559
past few years since the category was created, we have

912
00:44:19,679 --> 00:44:23,519
now exhausted the legitimate candidates to be voted in. So

913
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:28,599
Laila Ali and Christy Martin and Lucia Reiker and etc. Etc.

914
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,599
They have already been elected, and now it's to the

915
00:44:31,599 --> 00:44:34,960
point where the group of women that they're adding are

916
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,119
just ridiculous. In my opinion, to be Hall of Fame

917
00:44:37,199 --> 00:44:39,119
doesn't mean they're not good fighters, doesn't mean they're not

918
00:44:39,199 --> 00:44:41,519
nice people, but at the level to be a Hall

919
00:44:41,559 --> 00:44:44,880
of Famer to me is absolutely preposterous. And they insist

920
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,440
on electing two. I feel like they can do one

921
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,280
and do it every other year and space it out

922
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,440
because we're in a period of time right now where

923
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:55,159
those who are becoming eligible is preposterous, and we're going.

924
00:44:55,079 --> 00:44:58,519
Speaker 3: To Inderjeck can Iderjeck, you kick the ones before them

925
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,840
as well. Is another point on this with all halls

926
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,039
of fame. If you're putting people on the ballot and

927
00:45:04,079 --> 00:45:06,519
saying we've got to have two of them for whatever

928
00:45:06,559 --> 00:45:09,800
your motivations are, you're taining the ones you've put in

929
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,320
before by comparing them to somebody who doesn't deserve to

930
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,239
be there. I'm just saying, in general terms.

931
00:45:14,079 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, you're right. And so what's gonna happen is

932
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,559
we're gonna go through a few years where there's going

933
00:45:18,559 --> 00:45:21,639
to be women from the modern category elected that have

934
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,239
no business being in all of fame, and we will

935
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,320
get to a point in a few years when their

936
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,400
careers have petered out where we'll see another crop of

937
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,960
outstanding women who do deserve it, people like Amanda Serrano

938
00:45:33,039 --> 00:45:35,880
and Katie Taylor and Claressa's Shields yep, you know, and

939
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,519
maybe Sinisa Strada and certainly Cecilia Bretcuss and I mean,

940
00:45:39,519 --> 00:45:42,159
I could go on. There's those types of women who

941
00:45:42,199 --> 00:45:45,760
have achievements that are way beyond the others that are there.

942
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:49,239
So I'm very, very very down on the whole scenario

943
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,800
with women at the moment. And then among some of

944
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,559
the other folks that are on there are non participants,

945
00:45:53,599 --> 00:45:57,840
which is like you know, the trainers, the cutmen, the promoters,

946
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,760
the managers, et cetera. You have the American referee Kenny Bayliss,

947
00:46:02,039 --> 00:46:04,039
who to me is a lock. I mean, to me,

948
00:46:04,119 --> 00:46:06,079
he was one of the if not the best referee

949
00:46:06,119 --> 00:46:08,639
in the entire sport of boxing for him several years

950
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,679
and now is retired. You have a guy who's actually

951
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,440
been a good friend of mine for many, many years,

952
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,119
Russ Anber, who is a well known cutman and trainer

953
00:46:17,119 --> 00:46:19,559
from Canada who's worked with a million guys trained guys.

954
00:46:19,559 --> 00:46:22,800
He is the creator and founder of a rival boxing year.

955
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:24,760
We may see them on their gloves and robes and trunks,

956
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:28,800
et cetera. That's another guy, the Italian promoter SALVADORC. Kirkie,

957
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,039
who has kept alive boxing Italy for decades, him and

958
00:46:31,119 --> 00:46:34,719
his family. And I'll just go through the observer category

959
00:46:35,679 --> 00:46:37,400
two of the One of the people in the observer

960
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:42,079
category is who I've sat next to for countless big

961
00:46:42,119 --> 00:46:44,320
time championship fights, A man who has been a friend

962
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,480
of mine for over twenty years, who was to me

963
00:46:47,639 --> 00:46:49,400
a lock for the Hall of Fame. I'll vote for him,

964
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,199
without a warl without a chat over it out is

965
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,599
my man, Kevin Ioli. I mean, who for decades was

966
00:46:55,639 --> 00:46:58,719
the boxer reporter for the Las Vegas Review Journal. After

967
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,960
that span about I don't know fifty in eighteen years

968
00:47:01,119 --> 00:47:03,519
as the boxing writer for Yahoo Sports now is like

969
00:47:03,559 --> 00:47:05,800
me doing his own thing. But Kevin is a first

970
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:10,760
class journalist also amen very known as an MMA journalist

971
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,760
as well as boxing. But uh, that's that's Uh, he's

972
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:14,239
on the Eternal.

973
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,280
Speaker 3: We've got Kevin on the podcast a couple of times

974
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:21,320
previously before tremendous uh insight historian of the sport put

975
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:22,639
him in, put him in.

976
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 4: He'll uh, he'll be he's on the ballot for the

977
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:26,960
first time this year, and uh, you know. And then

978
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:28,960
they have some other categories, which are rough ones because

979
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,760
it's there's not a lot to You got to do

980
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,599
some homework if you're gonna have pioneers and women's trailblazers

981
00:47:33,639 --> 00:47:36,599
and late year old timers. So uh, but those are

982
00:47:36,639 --> 00:47:38,079
the main the main attractions.

983
00:47:38,079 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 3: Well, I know you'll come back strong with what your

984
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:41,920
ballad is at a later date and what you did

985
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,639
and the and the announcement for the Hall of Fame.

986
00:47:44,679 --> 00:47:46,400
Mark a couple more items quickly, because then I want

987
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:47,920
to get to the nostalgia, which is a couple of

988
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:52,400
fascinating fights with Felix Trinidad and uh and Floyd Mayweather.

989
00:47:52,599 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 1: All right, uh, welter waits.

990
00:47:55,039 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 3: I'm in Atlanta as we do the podcast for Thursday

991
00:47:58,079 --> 00:48:00,639
Night Football for the Buccaneers and the Atlanta Falcons, part

992
00:48:00,679 --> 00:48:02,800
of my radio duties with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

993
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: One of many hats that I wear, by the way.

994
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:08,039
Speaker 3: Uh. And and an Atlanta area fighter Brian Norman, who

995
00:48:08,039 --> 00:48:10,440
has the WBO welterweight title. He's been elevated as the

996
00:48:10,519 --> 00:48:13,880
champ was to be fighting in November, it's now not happening.

997
00:48:14,039 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 1: What's what's up?

998
00:48:15,559 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 4: So he was scheduled to fight Derek Wavis in his

999
00:48:18,039 --> 00:48:21,039
first defense on the undercart of the Keishaw Davis Norfolk,

1000
00:48:21,119 --> 00:48:23,960
Virginia homecoming fight that you mentioned that is gonna be

1001
00:48:24,119 --> 00:48:26,159
November eighth, that's a ESPN Plus card. He was in

1002
00:48:26,159 --> 00:48:30,000
the co feature and remember there was all that back

1003
00:48:30,039 --> 00:48:32,239
and forth, is he gonna is he gonna do the deal?

1004
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,400
And is he gonna fight Jeron Ennis for the unification?

1005
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,719
Obviously that didn't happen anyway. So he was scheduled to

1006
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:40,480
do this fight, and he had had hand surgery back

1007
00:48:40,519 --> 00:48:43,639
in the summertime and everything seemed okay. When he got

1008
00:48:43,679 --> 00:48:45,880
back into training not that long ago, Uh, the hand

1009
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,199
was given him some problems and so they basically pulled

1010
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,199
him layoff. He doesn't need from what I'm told and

1011
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:54,320
talking to the top Rank and talking to to Brian's manager,

1012
00:48:54,599 --> 00:48:56,639
he doesn't need another surgery, but he needs to rest

1013
00:48:56,639 --> 00:48:59,400
it and uh maybe dolo rehab, so let it he

1014
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,239
Also that is off. So Coprank is now trying to

1015
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:06,639
put together another co feature for that card, and they're

1016
00:49:06,679 --> 00:49:09,039
saying they're going to try to reschedule the Norman Quavis

1017
00:49:09,079 --> 00:49:11,039
fight and most like you will see in the early

1018
00:49:11,079 --> 00:49:13,239
part of twenty twenty five when Brian is ready to

1019
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:13,679
come back.

1020
00:49:14,039 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 3: All right, let's hope he gets healed up. And again

1021
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,480
that would have created an even bigger mess with Jeron

1022
00:49:18,519 --> 00:49:20,599
Boots Inns had he been the opponent.

1023
00:49:20,519 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 1: And then there's an injury. So there we go.

1024
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,559
Speaker 3: Welcome to boxing, all right. One other note, what's going

1025
00:49:25,599 --> 00:49:30,400
on here with the WBO and their junior middleweight title

1026
00:49:31,079 --> 00:49:35,599
as it relates to Terrence Clawford. Explain with Sebastian Fundora,

1027
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,239
Terrence Clawford and what is the WBO up to here?

1028
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 2: Real quick?

1029
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,599
Speaker 4: Well, there has been a lot of reporting that I

1030
00:49:41,639 --> 00:49:43,880
haven't reported because it's just not been accurate. In my

1031
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,519
opinion from what I have been told and who I've

1032
00:49:46,559 --> 00:49:48,440
talked to, is there was a lot of discussion that

1033
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:50,599
it was going to be a fight, first of all,

1034
00:49:50,599 --> 00:49:51,960
at the end of this year, which was never true.

1035
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:55,239
But now they've said early next year between Fandora and

1036
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:59,440
Eryl Spence. Fandora of course at the WBOWBC title holder

1037
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,719
at one hundred at the four pounds. Spence hasn't fought

1038
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,639
since he lost in the welterweight undisputed fight against Crawford

1039
00:50:05,119 --> 00:50:10,119
in July of last year. Anyway, the Fandora team wants

1040
00:50:10,119 --> 00:50:13,960
to fight Crawford. When Crawford fought the Madrama fight in August,

1041
00:50:14,159 --> 00:50:16,800
he moved up to junior middle eight, he defeated Madrumov.

1042
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,400
He won the WBA title from Madama, what was less

1043
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,960
of a big deal, but still there was. In addition

1044
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,760
to winning the WBA title, the WBO had made its

1045
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:29,320
interim title available in that fight, and Terrence Crawford won

1046
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,599
the fight, and so therefore not only is a WBA

1047
00:50:31,679 --> 00:50:34,719
title holder, he also now holds the WBO interim title,

1048
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,519
and the WBO while they'll approve interim titles from time

1049
00:50:37,559 --> 00:50:39,920
to time, they're pretty militant about making sure you get

1050
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:41,760
rid of them as quick as possible, So they take

1051
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,280
the guy who wins that title, and as soon as

1052
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,239
possible they will order the fight against the full champion.

1053
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:51,800
So the Fondora side and the Crawford side apparently have

1054
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,000
been interested in seeing what they can do about doing

1055
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,480
Crawford against Vondora, because remember the Crawford is won at

1056
00:50:57,519 --> 00:51:00,400
Canelo Canelo Canelo, that seems like it's not happening. So

1057
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,400
if he's going to have a fallback plan, you got

1058
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,639
to figure out what else their is. So for Crawford,

1059
00:51:04,639 --> 00:51:08,000
it's appetizing and appealing to him to go and get

1060
00:51:08,039 --> 00:51:10,519
a guy that you can win two titles off of

1061
00:51:10,559 --> 00:51:13,480
in the same night, so they had ordered that fight,

1062
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,960
and on Tuesday of this week, the WBO granted them

1063
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,679
a ten day extension. Now that's not entirely unusual for

1064
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:21,840
an extension to be granted, but I was a little

1065
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,559
surprised that the reason that the extension was granted was

1066
00:51:24,599 --> 00:51:27,920
because the Crawford's side, his lawyer. They went to the

1067
00:51:28,039 --> 00:51:30,719
WBO and asked for the extension, which tells me that

1068
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,199
they're at least interested in the fight, right And Samson Lukewitz,

1069
00:51:33,199 --> 00:51:35,960
who is the promoter for fron Dora, he you know,

1070
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,039
you got to both sides have to kind of agree

1071
00:51:38,079 --> 00:51:40,280
if they're going to do an extension. He agreed to

1072
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,599
the extension and told me, and I presume he also

1073
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,760
told the WBO that okay, we'll have the extension and

1074
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,199
we'll talk about it. We'll try to make a deal,

1075
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,159
but no more delays. If you can't we don't make

1076
00:51:49,159 --> 00:51:51,079
a deal in ten days, we're going to a purspit.

1077
00:51:51,159 --> 00:51:53,679
And he says that day of the backing of PBC

1078
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:57,280
to do a purspid, Crawford obviously has the backing of

1079
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,559
the Saudi Arabians and Turkey, so you know, they obviously

1080
00:52:00,599 --> 00:52:02,239
have the money. If it's a fight that is interesting

1081
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:05,360
to them, but we'll see. I think there's a chance

1082
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:09,400
that Crawford and Fondora will fight. I never really believed

1083
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,639
that Errol Spence deal was done. You know, it may

1084
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,760
be an option for Ferndor if the Crawford fight isn't made,

1085
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,519
but they're going to exhaust all avenues to try to

1086
00:52:18,559 --> 00:52:21,159
do a Crawford fight before they look at Spence. So

1087
00:52:21,199 --> 00:52:22,920
we'll find out with the next ten days or so

1088
00:52:23,039 --> 00:52:23,840
what they end up doing.

1089
00:52:24,599 --> 00:52:28,760
Speaker 3: All right, stay tuned for the junior middleweight division, and

1090
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:32,199
that leads us to nostalgia before we're done. It was

1091
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,960
twenty years ago earlier this week on Wednesday, the second

1092
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,880
as we released this podcast Thursday night into Friday, that

1093
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,559
Felix Trinidad ended a brief two and a half year

1094
00:52:41,639 --> 00:52:48,320
retirement and font Ricardo majorga at Madison Square Garden and

1095
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,280
Rocus Environment and you were right there. What do you

1096
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:53,239
remember twenty years later about that one?

1097
00:52:53,519 --> 00:52:55,760
Speaker 1: As we go on the way back, TJ.

1098
00:52:56,119 --> 00:52:59,280
Speaker 4: One of the great joys of my career covering boxing

1099
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:03,000
has been covering Felix Trinidad fights at Madison Square Garden.

1100
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:05,920
There's just there was nothing like that. I mean, they

1101
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,559
were big events, but it was more than just the

1102
00:53:08,599 --> 00:53:13,880
electricity and the excitement is just a pure joy of

1103
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:17,079
the fans and of Trinidad. It was such a pleasant,

1104
00:53:17,159 --> 00:53:20,519
pleasurable experience to be there, so much fun. You know,

1105
00:53:20,599 --> 00:53:23,400
he really loved the crowd and with this fight of

1106
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:27,000
him as popular a fighter as you could get with

1107
00:53:27,119 --> 00:53:29,320
his people, coming out of a two and a half

1108
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:33,199
year retirement and making the comeback against the ultimate villain

1109
00:53:33,199 --> 00:53:36,199
opponent in Ricardo Majorga, who had been a top champion

1110
00:53:36,199 --> 00:53:38,880
at welterweight that won a title at junior middleweight, was

1111
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,639
always in good fights, but usually lost in the fights

1112
00:53:41,639 --> 00:53:44,519
when he stepped up. Remember he had been Trinidad I'm

1113
00:53:44,559 --> 00:53:48,039
talking about, had been defeated by Bernard Hopkins by knockout

1114
00:53:48,079 --> 00:53:51,320
in the undisputed middleway title fight that culminated the tournament,

1115
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,400
which we spoke about on the anniversary.

1116
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 1: Because it was last week, last week he had.

1117
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,800
Speaker 4: He came back several months after that did a homecoming

1118
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,719
fight in Puerto Rico, which which was the last fight

1119
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,719
on his HBO contract against the former title holder, has

1120
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:04,480
Seen Sharifi.

1121
00:54:04,519 --> 00:54:05,639
Speaker 2: He moved, you.

1122
00:54:05,559 --> 00:54:07,119
Speaker 4: Know, he went and did that fight in Puerto Rico,

1123
00:54:07,159 --> 00:54:09,880
and then he retired, and all through the two and

1124
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,400
a half years, everybody kept asking when's Tito coming back,

1125
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,440
When's Tito coming back? And he finally came back. Against

1126
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:17,880
my argue, they put the fight at Madison Square Garden.

1127
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:19,519
It wasn't a title fight or anything, but it was

1128
00:54:19,599 --> 00:54:22,039
just a just a chance to see Trinidad back in

1129
00:54:22,119 --> 00:54:25,960
action and some of the great atmospheres. I've talked a

1130
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:29,000
lot in the past about the atmosphere at Madison Square

1131
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:33,119
Garden when Tito fought William Joppi in the middleweight title.

1132
00:54:33,199 --> 00:54:35,719
The first the semi final of that tournament was as

1133
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,119
exceptional as anything I've ever been in. But not that

1134
00:54:38,159 --> 00:54:40,599
far behind is this fight against Ricardo Moraga. I have

1135
00:54:40,679 --> 00:54:44,440
this lasting image in my mind of when the first

1136
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:48,159
bell rang. You don't see this often the entire crowd

1137
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,400
rose at the first bell. Usually they rise at the

1138
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:54,199
beginning of the twelfth round, there's a knockdown or some

1139
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:57,239
massively exciting moment in the fight, but you don't really

1140
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,239
see even with all the excitement, you don't see the

1141
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:01,679
whole crowd. And by the way, you're talking, like seventeen

1142
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,360
eighteen thousand people at the garden just a rock and place.

1143
00:55:04,639 --> 00:55:07,679
Everybody stood up and was just so excited to be there,

1144
00:55:08,039 --> 00:55:09,840
and it turned out to be as expected. One hell

1145
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:13,360
of a fight. Our man, the late Greatete's Smoger, the referee.

1146
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,000
You always know you're gonna get a good fight because

1147
00:55:15,039 --> 00:55:18,519
he lets the guys go, and this was dramatic. He

1148
00:55:18,599 --> 00:55:21,760
knocked him down. My Orga went down three different times

1149
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,880
in the eighth round. Trinidad had touched his glove down

1150
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,599
in the third round. He had taken some shots, but

1151
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:31,239
he definitely overpowered my Orga. And when he finally went down,

1152
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,719
I just have the image of Smoger standing over him

1153
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,519
with the dramatic wave of the hand. The fight's over

1154
00:55:36,559 --> 00:55:39,440
and the fucking place went absolutely bananas. I mean it

1155
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:43,320
just I wish I say this often about different times,

1156
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,719
with the experience of being in these great atmospheres of

1157
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:49,280
these big fights. I wish every boxing fan at some

1158
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,960
point could experience what it's like to be there, and

1159
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,039
from myself, not only to be there, but in the

1160
00:55:55,039 --> 00:55:57,039
case of this fight and lots of the fights I

1161
00:55:57,079 --> 00:55:59,280
talk about, I'm sitting five feet from the ring, so

1162
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:01,320
it's like and more exciting.

1163
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,119
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, we had a couple of we had

1164
00:56:03,119 --> 00:56:05,800
to come against a couple of recent examples, with Dubois

1165
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:09,440
scoring the early knockdown with Joshua and Wembley Stadium on

1166
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,920
one hand is stunned. But there's crowd roaring in that moment,

1167
00:56:13,199 --> 00:56:17,119
or Canelo dropping Edgar Berlanga back two or three weeks

1168
00:56:17,159 --> 00:56:19,760
ago and the crowdy erupts in Vegas, and you were

1169
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:23,239
right there ringside for that. You have those moments, and

1170
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,000
in this case, one of the great's, a Hall of Famer,

1171
00:56:25,039 --> 00:56:26,000
Trinidad gets the ko.

1172
00:56:26,079 --> 00:56:28,280
Speaker 4: And so Trinidad kept on going after that, and he

1173
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,719
came back in his next fight, whereas my orga was

1174
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,320
tailor made for him, he picked Winky right. So I

1175
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,519
always give him props for being willing to take on

1176
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the tough guys. But that was the worst style match.

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Speaker 3: They would say it correctly, Saint Pete Florida, Saint Pete's

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Winky Wright put him to sleep after that.

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Speaker 1: But still what a night.

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Speaker 4: But so here's the point though, Also so that night

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when he came back and front Majorga was the last

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win of Tito's career, and what a way to have

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00:56:53,119 --> 00:56:54,880
his last win, because then he lost in a one

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00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:58,239
sided fashion to Winky Right retired again and then came

1185
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,000
out of retirement like in our three years almost three

1186
00:57:00,039 --> 00:57:03,000
years later and fought the ill advised fight of the

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two legends against Roy Jones, who scored a win over

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him in a light heavyweight fight. And so Trinidad lost

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those two fights. But that my orga fight. I mean,

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go you tell you tue it up, because I actually

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00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,119
when I knew we were gonna the reason it came

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00:57:16,199 --> 00:57:17,599
up in my mind was I'm looking up the dates,

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and I put the poster at the poster, I put

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the program picture in my newsletter from my show and

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Tell section. And when I did that, I went on

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YouTube and I actually watched this fight again. Dude, this

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is a great fucking fight. I mean, Tito Trinidad in myga,

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don King doing his thing, Smoger doing his thing. I mean,

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it's a I mean, I wish I could go back

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and bottle that because that's how fucking good.

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Speaker 1: It was great nostalgia, allright. One more real quick.

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Speaker 3: Twenty six years ago, as we released the podcast October three,

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nineteen ninety eight, a young Floyd Mayweather fighting Gennaro Hernandez,

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and Floyd was devastating that night tell me more because

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00:57:55,559 --> 00:57:57,119
this was this was kind of the precursor of what

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00:57:57,159 --> 00:57:59,519
we were going to see for years and really a

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00:57:59,519 --> 00:58:01,840
couple of days ads to come with Floyd Mayweather right

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real quick.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, Look, Floyd was a great prospect. He had got

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a bronze medal in the Olympics. A lot of people

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thought he got robbed badly in the Olympics, which I

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00:58:08,719 --> 00:58:11,079
thought he did also probably should have been the gold

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medal winner. Nonetheless, you know, he had, you know, a

1214
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huge upside. Everybody thought he's a tremendous prospect. But at

1215
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this point in his first couple of years as a professional,

1216
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,599
you know, Top rank did its job. They matched him appropriately,

1217
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:25,440
they built them up, and they did his thing. They

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00:58:25,599 --> 00:58:28,559
let him develop, But he still had never fought anybody

1219
00:58:28,719 --> 00:58:31,400
of even remote consequence. He'd been on television, he fought

1220
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on ABC and ESPN and on some undercards of pay

1221
00:58:34,599 --> 00:58:36,639
per views, and they were getting his name out there,

1222
00:58:36,639 --> 00:58:39,840
getting him exposure. Obviously, people knew because his father had

1223
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:42,480
fought Sugar Ray Leonard, his uncle Roger been a two

1224
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:44,639
time world champion. He had been in the Olympics, so

1225
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he was getting plenty of exposure, plenty of attention and

1226
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,840
had plenty people talking about him. But the moment of

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00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,599
truth game when he stepped up, is well, is this

1228
00:58:52,639 --> 00:58:54,840
too much for young Floyd? Is he buying off more

1229
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,039
than he can chew? Because Jenn r Handez may have

1230
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been a little bit older at that time, but he

1231
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,599
was a massively back to champion one hundred and thirty pounds.

1232
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He only had one loss going into this fight, and

1233
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that one loss was because he got his nose broken

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00:59:07,239 --> 00:59:09,760
badly by Oscar de la Hoya. But that wasn't a

1235
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lightweight fight. He had moved up to fight Oscar in

1236
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:14,639
a title fight at lightweight and so in his more

1237
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natural division where he dominated and then a title holder

1238
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:23,559
on multiple occasions. You know, he's now Like the general

1239
00:59:23,639 --> 00:59:27,599
concept was Floyd is taking this too soon in his career.

1240
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You know, think about what people saying in retrospective out

1241
00:59:30,639 --> 00:59:33,800
Fernando Vargas taken on Tito Trinidad. They say, oh, it's

1242
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:35,360
too early for him to do that. While he proved

1243
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:38,480
that didn't it wasn't because I mean, in that case,

1244
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maybe it was because Vargas got knocked out and took

1245
00:59:41,079 --> 00:59:42,880
a real rough night and they were Olympic teammates. There

1246
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:47,039
was a lot of conversation about that, but Gennaro had

1247
00:59:47,039 --> 00:59:48,840
no chance against Floyd. You could tell from the opening

1248
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bell Floyd was faster, Floyd was stronger. Floyd was just

1249
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dazzling offensively and defensively. He gave Jennia Hernandez an absolute

1250
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fucking beat down, and Rudy Hernandez, who's still one of

1251
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the great trainers in boxing today, best known at the

1252
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:05,840
moment as the trainer from day one for a Jonto

1253
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:09,320
Nakatani who's on a grand run right now. In any event,

1254
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Rudy Hernandez stopped that fight after the eighth round. Gennaro

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had taken absolute pounding. Gennaro retired after that fight, never

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01:00:16,679 --> 01:00:19,599
fought again, very sadly. You know, he had a cancer.

1257
01:00:19,639 --> 01:00:23,000
He died many years ago. He was just a tremendous guy.

1258
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Matter of fact, people I think sometimes don't remember this

1259
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or they forget about it. But Floyd Mayweather had so

1260
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much respect for Hernandez that he paid for Gennaro's funeral.

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Speaker 1: How about that he passed the way.

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01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 4: So that was a tremendous performance from a young Floyd

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01:00:37,639 --> 01:00:40,280
who again stepped up to fight his first Legit opponent

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of his career, and it was the first world title

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that Floyd won at one hundred and thirty pounds, which

1266
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he went on and defended just a couple of months later.

1267
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:48,960
Matter of fact, he won this fight we're talking about

1268
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on the anniversary October of nineteen ninety eight. He was

1269
01:00:52,679 --> 01:00:55,239
he talked about activity all the time, DJ he was

1270
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:57,239
back in the ring. This was an HBO main event

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01:00:57,239 --> 01:01:00,480
against Genera Hernandez. He was back in the ring December

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nineteenth of nineteen ninety eight, six weeks later against angel Anfreddi,

1273
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,639
who was the number one contender, and he smoked him

1274
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in two rounds. People forget that Floyd Mayweather back then,

1275
01:01:10,119 --> 01:01:12,480
pretty boy Floyd. He was a badass. At one hundred

1276
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:14,320
and thirty pounds, he was knocking guys out and doing

1277
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:17,559
devastating things to guys, and he defended that title many times.

1278
01:01:17,599 --> 01:01:19,320
And then of course he moved up and went on

1279
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to win world titles in a total of five different

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weight classes. Became money. Mayweather began the pay per view attraction,

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01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,360
the biggest star in the sport, the biggest money earner.

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Speaker 1: In the sport.

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01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 4: But the first of all those world titles that he

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01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:33,960
won in five different weight classes was this night against

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01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:38,960
Sennara Hernandez. An absolutely spectacular performance from then pretty boy.

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Speaker 3: Love it, love all the nosalgia and by the way,

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we acknowledge and noad the Thrilla in Manila earlier this

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01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:46,760
week forty nine years we got to do something around

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01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:49,840
the fiftieth Anniversario Ali Fraser three.

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Speaker 1: It's one of those that.

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01:01:52,039 --> 01:01:54,119
Speaker 3: For all time here it is fifty years later. You

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01:01:54,239 --> 01:01:56,639
know about that fight. If you say thriller in Manila,

1293
01:01:56,679 --> 01:02:00,280
you know what that is with Ali and Fraser. Busy show,

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my friend excellent work, including getting Dmitri bvol on the

1295
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:07,760
podcast again. This came out earlier on Thursday night because

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01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:11,079
we were aware of the Janabec fight, etc. A lot

1297
01:02:11,119 --> 01:02:13,840
of you already know what happened in that fight. Ray

1298
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:15,519
Phiel and I will be talking about it on the

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01:02:15,519 --> 01:02:18,239
bet US Boxing show at one Eastern time, briefly at

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01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:20,000
the top of the show because the fight will have

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happened Saturday or Friday morning US time, so we're live

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01:02:24,119 --> 01:02:26,679
at one Eastern time handicapping the nick Ball fight.

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Speaker 1: Look forward to doing that, and then.

1304
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:31,719
Speaker 3: You and I will be back with a recap podcast

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01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,400
off the weekend, and look towards next weekend, the Undisputed

1306
01:02:34,719 --> 01:02:37,920
light heavyweight showdown in Saudi Arabia.

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Speaker 1: Coming at the end of next weekend. For now, though,

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01:02:40,039 --> 01:02:41,480
I think we're good, Dan, Are we good? Are we

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01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:42,280
ready to get out of here?

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01:02:43,119 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 4: I think we're good.

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01:02:44,159 --> 01:02:45,039
Speaker 1: I think we arguing.

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01:02:46,079 --> 01:02:49,559
Speaker 3: Thank you, make sure you follow, subscribe, Apple, Spreaker, Spotify,

1313
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:52,280
Spotify for finding us here on the Big Fight Weekend

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preview for Dan Rayphiel, I'm merely TJ Reeves.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy the fights this weekend.