WEBVTT 1 00:00:28.640 --> 00:00:34.159 Welcome to the Great Detectives of Old Time Radio from 2 00:00:34.479 --> 00:00:39.560 Voice Idaho. This is your host, Adam Graham. In a moment, 3 00:00:39.600 --> 00:00:44.200 we're going to bring you this week's episode of Dragnet. 4 00:00:44.399 --> 00:00:47.399 But first I do want to encourage you. If you're 5 00:00:47.600 --> 00:00:53.079 enjoying the podcast, please follow us using your favorite podcast software, 6 00:00:53.840 --> 00:00:57.039 and today's program is brought you apart by the financial 7 00:00:57.039 --> 00:01:00.359 support of our listeners. You can support the show by 8 00:01:00.439 --> 00:01:04.840 meiling a donation to Adam Graham Peelbox one five nine 9 00:01:05.000 --> 00:01:10.439 one three. That's Peelbox one five nine thirteen Boise Idaho 10 00:01:10.680 --> 00:01:13.879 eight three seven one five, and you can also become 11 00:01:14.120 --> 00:01:17.400 one of our ongoing Patreon supporters for as little as 12 00:01:17.439 --> 00:01:22.239 two dollars per month. Just go to Patreon dot Great 13 00:01:22.319 --> 00:01:28.959 Detectives dot net. But now, from March twenty seventh, nineteen 14 00:01:29.959 --> 00:01:33.000 fifty two, here is the Big Rose. 15 00:01:41.400 --> 00:01:44.280 The story you were about to hear is true. The 16 00:01:44.400 --> 00:01:55.280 names have been changed to protect the innocent. You're a 17 00:01:55.280 --> 00:01:59.560 detective sergeant. You're assigned a homicide detail. A thirty eight 18 00:01:59.599 --> 00:02:02.920 year old woman disappears. She leaves her sister and her 19 00:02:02.920 --> 00:02:07.480 four children behind. There's evidence of foul play. Your job 20 00:02:07.680 --> 00:02:08.080 find her. 21 00:02:18.000 --> 00:02:21.759 Drag mat the documented drama of an actual crime. For 22 00:02:21.919 --> 00:02:24.560 the next thirty minutes, in cooperation with the Los Angeles 23 00:02:24.599 --> 00:02:27.639 Police Department, you will travel step by step on the 24 00:02:27.639 --> 00:02:30.280 side of the law through an actual case transcribed from 25 00:02:30.280 --> 00:02:34.879 official police violence, from beginning to end, from crime to punishment. 26 00:02:35.199 --> 00:02:37.879 Dragnet is the story of your police force in action. 27 00:02:42.199 --> 00:02:45.199 It was Monday, June third, was overcast in Los Angeles. 28 00:02:45.199 --> 00:02:47.319 We were working the day watch out of homicide detail. 29 00:02:47.560 --> 00:02:50.520 My partner's aid, Jacob's the boss's that brown, Chief of detectives. 30 00:02:50.520 --> 00:02:52.360 My name is Friday. I was on the way back 31 00:02:52.400 --> 00:02:54.560 from communications and it was eight fifteen am when I 32 00:02:54.560 --> 00:02:58.680 got to Room forty two homicide. Joe, let's do I Brian? 33 00:02:58.960 --> 00:03:00.879 You seen Ed went all a minute, said he'd be 34 00:03:00.960 --> 00:03:06.080 right by. Oh thank you. I don't see anything in 35 00:03:06.080 --> 00:03:08.400 the book. Nothing new, huh, not much pretty slow. 36 00:03:09.199 --> 00:03:11.039 Now's your mother, Joe? Or she wasn't feeling too well? 37 00:03:11.159 --> 00:03:13.000 No, she's not. As a matter of fact, doctor says 38 00:03:13.039 --> 00:03:14.599 to anemia. It's gonna take a little time to get 39 00:03:14.599 --> 00:03:16.840 over it. I guess I'm sorry to hear it. I 40 00:03:16.840 --> 00:03:18.400 gotta do some checking down at the auto desk. 41 00:03:18.439 --> 00:03:19.800 If I get any calls, I hadn't to switch it 42 00:03:19.840 --> 00:03:20.360 down there with you. 43 00:03:20.439 --> 00:03:23.479 Yeah, sure will, Brian, thanks you bet you? Oh, excuse 44 00:03:23.520 --> 00:03:23.840 me for. 45 00:03:24.000 --> 00:03:25.840 Me, Tom all right? 46 00:03:25.960 --> 00:03:26.680 Ed, what'd they give you? 47 00:03:26.800 --> 00:03:29.000 Missing report? Woman? How about the Ma'm no. 48 00:03:29.000 --> 00:03:31.039 It's nothing, not the missing report there. 49 00:03:31.080 --> 00:03:34.240 Yeah, it's all here. Someone out on sixty fourth Street 50 00:03:34.319 --> 00:03:36.159 names Rose Baker. It's been gone about a week. 51 00:03:38.439 --> 00:03:42.520 Last scene Tuesday, May twenty seven pm. Who's this? It 52 00:03:42.599 --> 00:03:45.400 made the report Carl Shelton, Who's he's her boyfriend. 53 00:03:45.800 --> 00:03:48.240 Miss Baker's husband died about five years ago. It's been 54 00:03:48.280 --> 00:03:49.919 running around quite a bit since then. Had a lot 55 00:03:49.919 --> 00:03:50.520 of man trouble. 56 00:03:51.039 --> 00:03:52.000 She disappeared before then. 57 00:03:52.080 --> 00:03:54.840 Huh yeah, half dozen times. Never been gone this long though. 58 00:03:55.120 --> 00:03:57.680 Holmes took this report from Shelton. He gathered Miss Baker's 59 00:03:57.719 --> 00:03:59.439 not too stable. She's going to drink quite a bit. 60 00:03:59.560 --> 00:04:01.560 Doesn't see to care anything for her home or kids. 61 00:04:02.039 --> 00:04:04.479 Seeing here she has four children. They're living with her aunt, 62 00:04:04.599 --> 00:04:07.000 missus Baker's sister. It's kind of a funny arrangement in there. 63 00:04:07.080 --> 00:04:09.240 Yeah, Baker. Woman packed her bags and walked out of 64 00:04:09.240 --> 00:04:11.280 the house about a year ago. Her sister's been taking 65 00:04:11.280 --> 00:04:13.280 care of the kids ever since. My mother comes back 66 00:04:13.319 --> 00:04:14.360 for a visit once in a while. 67 00:04:15.120 --> 00:04:17.199 Miss address we've got on missus Baker. It's the same 68 00:04:17.240 --> 00:04:18.879 address as her boyfriend, Carl Shelton. 69 00:04:19.000 --> 00:04:21.639 Yeah, that's right. They both have apartments in the same building. 70 00:04:22.680 --> 00:04:24.680 This a recent picture of miss Baker supposed to. 71 00:04:24.680 --> 00:04:26.480 Be Yeah, nice looking woman. 72 00:04:26.560 --> 00:04:29.639 Huh. Sister's listed here as the last person who saw Well, 73 00:04:29.680 --> 00:04:30.480 how's that Baker? 74 00:04:30.480 --> 00:04:30.680 Woman? 75 00:04:30.720 --> 00:04:31.839 Still wasn't living at home, was she? 76 00:04:31.920 --> 00:04:33.839 According to the sister, missus Baker came over to the 77 00:04:33.839 --> 00:04:35.920 house to see her the night she disappeared, sometime around 78 00:04:35.959 --> 00:04:38.120 eight o'clock. Two of them had some business to talk over. 79 00:04:38.920 --> 00:04:40.759 Seems the sister had a check for four hundred dollars 80 00:04:40.800 --> 00:04:43.120 she got from selling some furniture. Claimed the kids had 81 00:04:43.120 --> 00:04:44.639 been sick, she had doctor bills to pay. 82 00:04:45.079 --> 00:04:46.959 Missus Baker's sister took care of things to that extent. 83 00:04:47.079 --> 00:04:49.560 Apparently, anyway, after the sister got the check for selling 84 00:04:49.600 --> 00:04:52.439 the furniture, Miss Baker wanted half the money. Sister said, 85 00:04:52.439 --> 00:04:53.920 that's why she came to see her that night. Two 86 00:04:53.920 --> 00:04:55.079 of them got in the car and went out to 87 00:04:55.079 --> 00:04:56.279 find somebody to cash a check. 88 00:04:56.839 --> 00:05:00.160 One drink of water, no, no thanks, Then you get 89 00:05:00.160 --> 00:05:02.079 a four hundred dollar check cash at eight o'clock at night? 90 00:05:02.079 --> 00:05:04.680 Would you know, sister sitting miss Dickon, did somebody good 91 00:05:04.720 --> 00:05:07.160 cash at farm? Turned out the person couldn't cash it. 92 00:05:07.639 --> 00:05:09.879 Sister stopped at the bar for glass of beer as 93 00:05:09.879 --> 00:05:11.319 a Baker took a car and went to look up 94 00:05:11.360 --> 00:05:13.519 somebody else she thought could cash it. That was it. 95 00:05:13.560 --> 00:05:15.279 Miss Baker hadn't been seen since. 96 00:05:15.519 --> 00:05:16.720 Who was is somebody else? 97 00:05:17.199 --> 00:05:19.920 Well? I did? Sister claimed she doesn't know. Miss Baker 98 00:05:19.920 --> 00:05:20.600 didn't tell her. 99 00:05:20.959 --> 00:05:23.360 Sounds like missus Baker wanted the whole check, wouldn't you say? 100 00:05:23.560 --> 00:05:25.839 That's what the sister figured, and Miss Baker didn't come back. 101 00:05:26.120 --> 00:05:28.040 She finished the glass of beer, left the barn, started 102 00:05:28.040 --> 00:05:30.000 walking home. Two blocks from the house, she found her 103 00:05:30.000 --> 00:05:32.079 car park and it was time to Miss Baker. Car 104 00:05:32.160 --> 00:05:34.079 keys were in the glove compartment. So it's a sister's 105 00:05:34.120 --> 00:05:35.879 share of the money. Two hundred dollars in cash. 106 00:05:36.000 --> 00:05:37.800 Well, how about the firm that issued the check? They 107 00:05:37.800 --> 00:05:38.720 get it back canceled? 108 00:05:38.800 --> 00:05:41.000 Yeah, a couple of days ago. Miss Baker's endorsement on 109 00:05:41.040 --> 00:05:41.360 the back. 110 00:05:42.120 --> 00:05:43.600 Yeah sounds pretty wild, isn't it. 111 00:05:43.639 --> 00:05:45.879 The whole thing does talk to half dozen people who 112 00:05:45.879 --> 00:05:47.959 saw miss Baker that night. None of their stories gibed 113 00:05:48.079 --> 00:05:51.240 Hony mean. Her boyfriend, Carl Shelton, he claims Miss Baker 114 00:05:51.240 --> 00:05:52.439 told him she was going out of town for a 115 00:05:52.439 --> 00:05:53.519 few days with a girlfriend. 116 00:05:53.639 --> 00:05:54.319 They check it out. 117 00:05:54.560 --> 00:05:57.240 Yeah, girlfriend didn't know anything about it. Then they talked 118 00:05:57.240 --> 00:05:59.240 to a woman who works with Miss Baker. She said, yeah, 119 00:05:59.240 --> 00:06:01.720 the Baker woman was planning a trip. Miss Baker mentioned 120 00:06:01.720 --> 00:06:03.839 anything about it to her sister. No, sister said, Miss 121 00:06:03.879 --> 00:06:06.079 Baker told her just the opposite, said she was getting 122 00:06:06.079 --> 00:06:08.199 out of her apartment into a new place. She's going 123 00:06:08.240 --> 00:06:09.959 to spend the next couple of days moving. They checked 124 00:06:10.000 --> 00:06:12.720 the boyfriend. Shelton said, if Miss Baker was moving was 125 00:06:12.759 --> 00:06:13.240 new to him. 126 00:06:13.399 --> 00:06:15.399 Either she's a liar or one of her friends are huh. 127 00:06:15.240 --> 00:06:18.600 It's all Baltic stuff. No two stories anywhere near like, what. 128 00:06:18.560 --> 00:06:19.959 Do they figure for a motive? They got a line 129 00:06:20.000 --> 00:06:21.240 on anybody who might have wondered out of the. 130 00:06:21.199 --> 00:06:24.319 Way, big field to pick from. She fought with Carl Shelton, 131 00:06:24.319 --> 00:06:25.959 she fought with his sister, some of the people she 132 00:06:26.040 --> 00:06:28.360 worked with. She had three four other men around town 133 00:06:28.399 --> 00:06:29.879 on the string too. Any one of them could have 134 00:06:29.879 --> 00:06:30.879 wanted her out of the way. 135 00:06:31.040 --> 00:06:32.879 All our relative has been checked out, all our friends 136 00:06:32.879 --> 00:06:34.199 places she'd be most likely to go. 137 00:06:34.319 --> 00:06:35.720 I'll check not a trace of or nothing. 138 00:06:36.600 --> 00:06:38.199 I guess we better start moving on. It a lot 139 00:06:38.199 --> 00:06:39.879 of ground to cover. See if we can't straighten out 140 00:06:39.920 --> 00:06:40.600 some of those stories. 141 00:06:40.720 --> 00:06:45.000 One thing's sure, somebody's Lyne. 142 00:06:45.920 --> 00:06:48.639 Eight thirty five am. Before we left the City Hall, 143 00:06:48.680 --> 00:06:50.959 we checked with Sergeant Holmes and Missing Persons who had 144 00:06:50.959 --> 00:06:54.399 taken the report on Rose Baker's disappearance. He had nothing 145 00:06:54.439 --> 00:06:56.519 to add to what was in the report with what 146 00:06:56.519 --> 00:06:59.399 he'd already told ed. First on the interview list was 147 00:06:59.399 --> 00:07:02.279 the sister of the missing woman, Bernice Maron. She was 148 00:07:02.319 --> 00:07:05.199 employed as a saleswoman for a grocery supply firm. We 149 00:07:05.279 --> 00:07:07.000 called at the home where Miss Maron lived with her 150 00:07:07.000 --> 00:07:09.800 four nieces and nephews, but there was no answer. The 151 00:07:09.839 --> 00:07:12.120 next door neighbor told us that Miss Marron was working, 152 00:07:12.519 --> 00:07:14.519 that she usually didn't get home until four or fifteen 153 00:07:14.560 --> 00:07:17.279 or four thirty in the afternoon. In the meantime, we 154 00:07:17.319 --> 00:07:19.079 figured we might as well check the next name on 155 00:07:19.120 --> 00:07:22.319 the list, Missus Baker's boyfriend, Carl Shelton. We'd already checked 156 00:07:22.360 --> 00:07:23.879 him through our and I and he had no record. 157 00:07:24.360 --> 00:07:26.680 We drove out to his address, a three story apartment 158 00:07:26.720 --> 00:07:29.720 house on sixty fourth Street. Shelton's apartment was on the 159 00:07:29.759 --> 00:07:32.480 main floor rear. He answered the door in his bathrobe 160 00:07:32.480 --> 00:07:34.639 and slippers. He told us that he was employed at 161 00:07:34.680 --> 00:07:37.240 one of the local oil refineries, and that this particular 162 00:07:37.319 --> 00:07:39.759 week he was working the graveyard shift eleven at night 163 00:07:39.839 --> 00:07:42.079 until seven in the morning. He showed us back to 164 00:07:42.079 --> 00:07:44.600 a small kitchen at the rear of the apartment. While 165 00:07:44.600 --> 00:07:46.639 we questioned him, he fixed a percolator of coffee and 166 00:07:46.639 --> 00:07:47.439 put it on the stove. 167 00:07:48.800 --> 00:07:50.839 You're sure about miss Baker's plans are and she never 168 00:07:50.839 --> 00:07:52.680 mentioned anything to you about moving out of the apartment 169 00:07:52.680 --> 00:07:53.199 house here, you know. 170 00:07:53.240 --> 00:07:56.160 And never somebody's handing you a line there. If Rosie 171 00:07:56.160 --> 00:07:57.560 was going to move, she'd tell me about it. 172 00:07:57.680 --> 00:07:58.079 This minute. 173 00:07:58.120 --> 00:07:59.040 I gotta get that coffee. 174 00:07:59.120 --> 00:07:59.720 Looks about that? 175 00:08:02.000 --> 00:08:03.160 He always watch some java. 176 00:08:03.399 --> 00:08:05.319 Got an old potfully, Yeah, Noah, and I'll thank you. 177 00:08:08.160 --> 00:08:09.720 How long did you say you've known miss Baker? 178 00:08:12.000 --> 00:08:14.240 About a year year and a half. You got along 179 00:08:14.279 --> 00:08:18.000 pretty good, she'd right from the start. Sure don't understand 180 00:08:18.040 --> 00:08:18.959 her taken off like this. 181 00:08:19.639 --> 00:08:21.639 Miss Baker ever talked to you much about the family, 182 00:08:22.079 --> 00:08:25.079 her sister, four children. I mean, did you see them regularly? 183 00:08:25.160 --> 00:08:26.519 Seemed to get along with them allright to you. 184 00:08:27.360 --> 00:08:29.480 I don't think i'd know that. Rosie never had much 185 00:08:29.480 --> 00:08:31.639 to say about him. The only thing I could gather 186 00:08:31.759 --> 00:08:33.519 was that she just got sick of the routine, you know, 187 00:08:34.759 --> 00:08:37.120 keeping up a house, doing the wash, mopping dust, and 188 00:08:37.240 --> 00:08:38.279 taking care of four kids. 189 00:08:38.320 --> 00:08:39.039 She just checked out. 190 00:08:39.080 --> 00:08:41.960 That's all her sister beniee takeover. You ask me. She 191 00:08:41.960 --> 00:08:43.879 never should have had a family to begin with. Rosie 192 00:08:43.879 --> 00:08:46.080 isn't the kind. She's a party girl, likes a good time, 193 00:08:46.120 --> 00:08:46.639 you know what I mean. 194 00:08:47.120 --> 00:08:48.200 Something I don't understand. 195 00:08:48.240 --> 00:08:48.639 Shelton. 196 00:08:48.840 --> 00:08:50.519 You said a minute ago you couldn't figure out miss 197 00:08:50.600 --> 00:08:53.000 Baker's going off like this when you filed a missing 198 00:08:53.039 --> 00:08:54.720 report on her. You said she was planning a trip 199 00:08:54.720 --> 00:08:55.200 out of town. 200 00:08:55.440 --> 00:08:56.159 Yeah, that's right. 201 00:08:56.399 --> 00:08:58.320 Well, isn't it possible she might have taken off without 202 00:08:58.320 --> 00:08:59.799 telling you? No, I don't think so. 203 00:09:00.159 --> 00:09:02.360 She'd have told me she's planning a trip, all right, 204 00:09:02.399 --> 00:09:03.879 But she wasn't going to leave till the next night, 205 00:09:03.879 --> 00:09:06.799 Wednesday night. She's going to pick up this girlfriend of hers, Iris, 206 00:09:06.799 --> 00:09:07.919 and the two of them were going to take the 207 00:09:07.919 --> 00:09:09.360 bus down to Laguna for a couple of days. 208 00:09:09.600 --> 00:09:12.080 Well, it's our understanding this girlfriend Iris didn't know anything 209 00:09:12.080 --> 00:09:13.840 about the trip. Can you explain that? 210 00:09:14.519 --> 00:09:14.639 Oh? 211 00:09:14.679 --> 00:09:16.639 I guess Rosie forgot to tell her. I can't figure 212 00:09:16.639 --> 00:09:19.720 these women sometimes. Maybe she was gonna phone her Wednesday morning. 213 00:09:19.759 --> 00:09:21.600 She knew Iris could get away almost anytime. 214 00:09:21.679 --> 00:09:23.320 And you think it's possible she might have gone down 215 00:09:23.320 --> 00:09:24.279 to Laguna by herself. 216 00:09:24.639 --> 00:09:27.039 No, that's not like Rosie. Besides, before I went in 217 00:09:27.080 --> 00:09:28.919 a reporter missing, I called a couple of places down 218 00:09:29.000 --> 00:09:31.399 Laguna where Rosie usually stops that they hadn't seen her. 219 00:09:31.440 --> 00:09:33.000 Possible she might have gone some other place. 220 00:09:33.200 --> 00:09:35.879 No, without telling me. No, desides, she wouldn't go alone. 221 00:09:35.919 --> 00:09:36.960 I know that, Sheldon. 222 00:09:37.039 --> 00:09:39.320 We understand missus Baker was friendly with two or three 223 00:09:39.320 --> 00:09:41.440 other men around town. You think it's possible she might 224 00:09:41.440 --> 00:09:45.960 have gone someplace with one of them. 225 00:09:44.440 --> 00:09:48.480 Sheldon, No, No, I can't buy that. If it was 226 00:09:48.519 --> 00:09:50.200 eight months ago, i'd say maybe, but not not. 227 00:09:50.360 --> 00:09:50.679 Why not? 228 00:09:51.320 --> 00:09:53.240 We had it out, that's all, it was all settled. 229 00:09:53.240 --> 00:09:55.720 She wouldn't do anything like that. Again, pretty sure about that? 230 00:09:55.759 --> 00:09:58.799 I am yeah, positive. I didn't get it at all. 231 00:09:58.799 --> 00:10:01.000 She wouldn't do that. To me and off just packing 232 00:10:01.039 --> 00:10:03.600 up and leaving. Rosie wouldn't do that to me. She's 233 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:09.120 got four children. Yeah, she did it to them. 234 00:10:09.240 --> 00:10:11.759 We questioned Carl Shelton for another half hour, but he 235 00:10:11.799 --> 00:10:13.240 failed to come up with anything in the way of 236 00:10:13.240 --> 00:10:16.279 a definite lead. Ten forty a m. We drove to 237 00:10:16.320 --> 00:10:19.000 the home of the missing woman's girlfriend and Iris Kirby. 238 00:10:19.799 --> 00:10:22.279 Two things she was pretty definite about. She knew nothing 239 00:10:22.320 --> 00:10:24.600 about an out of town trip Missus Baker was supposed 240 00:10:24.600 --> 00:10:26.759 to have planned for the two of them, and secondly, 241 00:10:26.840 --> 00:10:29.200 she had no use for Carl Shelton. She told us 242 00:10:29.240 --> 00:10:31.519 that Shelton was her ex boyfriend and that she had 243 00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:34.159 introduced him to Rose Baker, and that shortly after that 244 00:10:34.200 --> 00:10:37.360 he dropped her. A few weeks later, Shelton began to 245 00:10:37.440 --> 00:10:40.559 keep steady company with Missus Baker. Outside of her personal 246 00:10:40.639 --> 00:10:43.120 grievance against Shelton, Iris Kirby had nothing to offer in 247 00:10:43.120 --> 00:10:44.879 the way of a lead to the whereabouts of her friend. 248 00:10:45.519 --> 00:10:47.320 Eleven thirty a m. We got in the car and 249 00:10:47.360 --> 00:10:49.159 headed for the factory in the south end of town 250 00:10:49.159 --> 00:10:51.879 where Rose Baker was employed. We stopped off in the 251 00:10:51.879 --> 00:10:53.639 way for lunch, a bowl of soup and a sandwich. 252 00:10:53.919 --> 00:10:56.559 Had had a cheeseburger and a piece of pie before 253 00:10:56.600 --> 00:10:58.159 we left. We checked the office to see if there 254 00:10:58.159 --> 00:11:01.519 were anny calls. Nothing. The place where missus Baker worked 255 00:11:01.519 --> 00:11:04.039 was on Santa Fe Avenue, a one story building covering 256 00:11:04.080 --> 00:11:07.559 almost half a block. They manufactured men's work clothes, shirts, 257 00:11:07.600 --> 00:11:10.720 and overalls. We checked with a personnel office. We asked 258 00:11:10.759 --> 00:11:12.840 if Rose Baker had any friends that she worked with. 259 00:11:13.240 --> 00:11:14.879 We were told that there was a Mildred Dunn who 260 00:11:14.919 --> 00:11:17.279 was a fairly close friend of the Baker. Woman ed 261 00:11:17.279 --> 00:11:19.000 and I waited in the office while they sent down 262 00:11:19.039 --> 00:11:20.240 to the plant for Mildred Dunn. 263 00:11:20.879 --> 00:11:24.360 Miss Dunn, that's right, police officers. My name's Jacobs. Is 264 00:11:24.399 --> 00:11:25.559 my partner starting Friday. 265 00:11:25.720 --> 00:11:26.519 How do you do are you? 266 00:11:26.559 --> 00:11:28.440 I'd like to ask a few questions about Rose Baker, 267 00:11:28.480 --> 00:11:30.600 missus Dunn. I understand you're pretty close friend to hers. 268 00:11:30.679 --> 00:11:33.399 Yes, that's right. I've known Rose ever since she came here. 269 00:11:33.799 --> 00:11:35.200 She worked on the machine next to me. 270 00:11:36.000 --> 00:11:38.600 She come home yet No, not yet. You remember miss 271 00:11:38.679 --> 00:11:40.879 Baker saying anything you about taking a trip, Miss done 272 00:11:40.879 --> 00:11:42.159 mean just before she disappeared. 273 00:11:42.360 --> 00:11:44.240 Yes, she did. She'd been looking forward to it. 274 00:11:44.679 --> 00:11:46.480 That's probably where she is, don't you think off on 275 00:11:46.519 --> 00:11:46.879 her trip? 276 00:11:47.039 --> 00:11:49.240 Oh we don't know, ma'am. Did you mention anything definite 277 00:11:49.240 --> 00:11:51.000 about the trip to you? Where she was going when 278 00:11:51.080 --> 00:11:52.440 she was leaving, Well, I. 279 00:11:52.360 --> 00:11:53.879 Think she was going to Laguna Beach. 280 00:11:54.360 --> 00:11:55.159 It's hard to tell. 281 00:11:55.200 --> 00:11:57.879 She's always kidding around, Rose is. Once she said she 282 00:11:57.919 --> 00:12:00.879 was going to fly to Switzerland for a vacation, Sam Fritz. 283 00:12:01.240 --> 00:12:03.759 She's always kidding around like that. Oh, that's so like 284 00:12:03.840 --> 00:12:05.720 Once when she had a date with Fred, she said 285 00:12:05.720 --> 00:12:08.039 she was going to the pump room in Chicago, you know, 286 00:12:08.399 --> 00:12:09.080 just being funny. 287 00:12:09.240 --> 00:12:11.519 I see who is this Fred? Missus dune fell. 288 00:12:11.360 --> 00:12:13.639 In the shipping department. Fred Lyons nice fella. 289 00:12:13.919 --> 00:12:15.519 He and Missus Baker so much of each other. 290 00:12:15.679 --> 00:12:17.960 They used to, yes, quite a bit. I don't know 291 00:12:17.960 --> 00:12:20.279 if they were serious about each other. I thought they 292 00:12:20.320 --> 00:12:22.440 were till a last month or so. Maybe they had 293 00:12:22.440 --> 00:12:24.399 a tip or something. Maybe Rose got tired of him. 294 00:12:24.440 --> 00:12:25.840 I don't know, but you do to think the two 295 00:12:25.879 --> 00:12:27.039 of 'em were serious at one time. 296 00:12:27.120 --> 00:12:29.120 Oh yes, it wasn't more than a month ago, and 297 00:12:29.240 --> 00:12:31.000 all of a sudden they weren't sweet on each other. 298 00:12:31.279 --> 00:12:32.639 Least Rose wasn't about him. 299 00:12:32.720 --> 00:12:34.559 She told me that I guess we. 300 00:12:34.600 --> 00:12:35.320 Better check on him. 301 00:12:35.399 --> 00:12:35.480 Ed. 302 00:12:36.080 --> 00:12:37.720 Is this Fred Lyons working to day? Do you know? 303 00:12:37.799 --> 00:12:37.960 Ma'am? 304 00:12:38.240 --> 00:12:38.399 Oh? 305 00:12:38.480 --> 00:12:40.480 No, he quit last Tuesday. 306 00:12:42.080 --> 00:12:44.919 One fifteen pm. We finished questioning, Mildred done and we 307 00:12:45.000 --> 00:12:47.279 went back to the personnel office to get Fred Lyons's 308 00:12:47.320 --> 00:12:50.759 description the last known address. We checked out the address, 309 00:12:50.759 --> 00:12:53.200 but Lyons had moved out the previous Tuesday and left 310 00:12:53.200 --> 00:12:56.960 no forwarding address. We questioned the landlady, looked over his rooms, 311 00:12:57.080 --> 00:12:59.200 checked through the neighborhood, and talked to everybody he knew. 312 00:12:59.639 --> 00:13:02.279 We found nothing to indicate that Lyons had anything directly 313 00:13:02.320 --> 00:13:05.200 to do with Rose Baker's disappearance, but we did find 314 00:13:05.240 --> 00:13:07.360 out that he knew missus Baker and that he thought 315 00:13:07.440 --> 00:13:09.480 quite a bit of her. We went back to the office. 316 00:13:09.480 --> 00:13:11.919 Gott a broadcast and an apb on Lions. 317 00:13:12.039 --> 00:13:13.559 I want to check the book, Josie. If we got 318 00:13:13.600 --> 00:13:14.279 any light calls? 319 00:13:14.519 --> 00:13:15.279 Yeah? 320 00:13:15.320 --> 00:13:20.480 Oh yeah, right, homicide Jacob, that's right? All I sure? 321 00:13:21.240 --> 00:13:24.879 Where was that? All right? Thank you got something? Yeah? 322 00:13:25.000 --> 00:13:27.600 Hollywood Division, woman's purse fond the bacont lot out there, 323 00:13:27.679 --> 00:13:30.399 high school kid founded a lot of identification inside. Yeah, 324 00:13:30.519 --> 00:13:36.159 Rose Baker. Three point fifteen pm. 325 00:13:36.480 --> 00:13:38.759 The purse was brought downtown to the crime lab for 326 00:13:38.799 --> 00:13:42.159 detailed examination. Brian and Barrett from Homicide went out to 327 00:13:42.159 --> 00:13:44.559 interview the boy who found the purse and to check 328 00:13:44.559 --> 00:13:47.480 the neighborhood where it was discovered. Meantime, Ed and I 329 00:13:47.559 --> 00:13:49.799 drove out to talk to the missing woman's sister, thirty 330 00:13:49.799 --> 00:13:53.399 six years old, Bernie Marrin. She and her sister's four 331 00:13:53.480 --> 00:13:55.679 children lived in a five room stuck out house just 332 00:13:55.720 --> 00:13:59.240 off Exposition Boulevard. We got there shortly after Miss Maron 333 00:13:59.279 --> 00:14:02.519 returned home her job. Her two older nephews were out 334 00:14:02.519 --> 00:14:04.879 in front cutting the lawn. She showed us into a 335 00:14:04.919 --> 00:14:07.360 neatly kept living room where we interviewed her. She was 336 00:14:07.360 --> 00:14:10.039 a plain looking woman, brown haired, gray eyes. She showed 337 00:14:10.080 --> 00:14:12.080 little concern about her sister's disappearance. 338 00:14:12.639 --> 00:14:14.240 I gave up trying to keep track of her a 339 00:14:14.240 --> 00:14:16.360 long time ago. Sorry, and I haven't any idea where 340 00:14:16.399 --> 00:14:18.279 she's gone. I used to worry about her. 341 00:14:18.279 --> 00:14:20.120 I don't you know how about that person of hers 342 00:14:20.120 --> 00:14:22.120 that was found the sapronym Miss Mariam. Wouldn't you say 343 00:14:22.120 --> 00:14:23.159 that makes it a little unusual? 344 00:14:23.200 --> 00:14:25.960 An I don't think so. She loses things all the time. 345 00:14:26.679 --> 00:14:27.840 I don't know what she does. 346 00:14:27.720 --> 00:14:29.879 When she goes off of those things. I don't want 347 00:14:29.879 --> 00:14:32.440 to know. It's drunk and does a lot of fooling around. 348 00:14:32.440 --> 00:14:34.960 I suppose she's lost two or three persons the same way. 349 00:14:35.200 --> 00:14:37.360 What about last Tuesday, the night she disappeared, you know, 350 00:14:37.399 --> 00:14:38.320 so she'd been bringing in. 351 00:14:38.919 --> 00:14:40.759 Yeah, I got the idea she'd had a couple of 352 00:14:40.840 --> 00:14:43.159 highballs before she came over. She wasn't drunk, but she 353 00:14:43.200 --> 00:14:45.919 wasn't feeling any pain. I will say, would you excuse me? 354 00:14:45.919 --> 00:14:47.440 I want to yell with the kids out there? Yes, 355 00:14:47.480 --> 00:14:54.039 ma'am right right, that's enough of that playing around out there. 356 00:14:54.120 --> 00:14:55.679 Let's decided person that lawn more. 357 00:14:55.799 --> 00:14:58.559 Huh okay, no. 358 00:14:58.720 --> 00:15:01.200 Better, hurry up. You still got the backyard, you do, remember? 359 00:15:01.399 --> 00:15:01.600 Yah? 360 00:15:03.000 --> 00:15:04.559 Well, a good thing that came out of that married 361 00:15:04.600 --> 00:15:07.799 sergeant throws kids out there. There's two more besides Frank 362 00:15:07.840 --> 00:15:10.519 and Bobby. The girls, my nieces. One's nine, one, seven, 363 00:15:11.080 --> 00:15:14.279 marvelous kids. Girls are just as pretty as pictures. I'm 364 00:15:14.279 --> 00:15:15.799 glad I have a chance to take care of them. 365 00:15:15.840 --> 00:15:18.639 I guess I just like kids. I can't understand it 366 00:15:18.639 --> 00:15:21.559 when people don't appreciate them. I don't have a family 367 00:15:21.600 --> 00:15:22.080 of my own. 368 00:15:22.120 --> 00:15:24.080 Oh, I see, miss Marin, when you were with your 369 00:15:24.080 --> 00:15:26.200 sister last Tuesday night, you say she didn't mention anything 370 00:15:26.200 --> 00:15:27.720 at all about taking that trip out of town. 371 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:29.000 No, just the opposite. 372 00:15:29.039 --> 00:15:31.279 Like I told you, she said she was moving out 373 00:15:31.279 --> 00:15:33.200 of her apartment into a new place. That's why she 374 00:15:33.279 --> 00:15:33.879 needed the money. 375 00:15:33.919 --> 00:15:34.200 M m. 376 00:15:34.440 --> 00:15:36.519 Well, what's the story about this money your sister came 377 00:15:36.559 --> 00:15:38.279 to pick up, Miss Mann. I don't think I quite 378 00:15:38.320 --> 00:15:38.919 got that clear. 379 00:15:39.240 --> 00:15:41.519 Well, we had this baby grand piano my mother gave 380 00:15:41.600 --> 00:15:44.080 Rose to me just before she died. Kids have been 381 00:15:44.200 --> 00:15:46.240 sick the last couple of months, one thing and another. 382 00:15:46.519 --> 00:15:48.200 I needed a little money to catch up on some 383 00:15:48.320 --> 00:15:50.840 doctor bills, so I sold the piano and I needed 384 00:15:50.879 --> 00:15:52.440 to do it, but the bills had to be paid. 385 00:15:53.519 --> 00:15:53.679 Well. 386 00:15:53.759 --> 00:15:56.600 Rose found out about it somehow, and she wanted half 387 00:15:56.600 --> 00:15:58.759 of the money I got for the piano. She wanted 388 00:15:58.759 --> 00:16:01.759 the money for herself, and she wasn't even willing to 389 00:16:01.759 --> 00:16:03.279 pay for her own kids doctor bills. 390 00:16:03.840 --> 00:16:05.639 It'd be different if I was charging her to take 391 00:16:05.679 --> 00:16:06.320 care of the kids. 392 00:16:06.320 --> 00:16:08.519 I just do it because I like them. 393 00:16:08.559 --> 00:16:10.279 Well, anyway, she found out about it and I had 394 00:16:10.279 --> 00:16:11.320 to split the check with her. 395 00:16:11.480 --> 00:16:12.919 The whole thing was for four hundred dollars. 396 00:16:13.080 --> 00:16:15.200 I understand your sister got the check cash that night. 397 00:16:15.200 --> 00:16:16.360 That correct, Yeah, that's right. 398 00:16:16.399 --> 00:16:18.080 It was eight o'clock at night. But Rose said she 399 00:16:18.120 --> 00:16:20.879 knew somebody who'd cash it. She wanted the money that 400 00:16:21.080 --> 00:16:23.320 night and save an argument. We got in the car 401 00:16:23.360 --> 00:16:25.519