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<v Speaker 1>Hey, you guys, what is happening and what is caught

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<v Speaker 1>out that glass? Baby? You know what time it is,

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<v Speaker 1>because we are about to feel it. Welcome to the

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<v Speaker 1>Premedious Lens Podcast, the place where the conversations are always

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<v Speaker 1>in lightning. I am your host, Doc Brown, and here

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<v Speaker 1>we like to use the allegory of the Prometheus Lens

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<v Speaker 1>to take a second look at everything. Hey, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>cut the intro shore on this one. Guys. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a conversation that I had with Jesse Speaks. It's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a rough cut and I didn't do an intro

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<v Speaker 1>for it, So here you go. I slapped it together.

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<v Speaker 1>Sit back, relax and enjoy the journey. Guys. On the

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<v Speaker 1>disclaimer to the fair season, karens out there, Oh dam

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<v Speaker 1>you all guests on the show, we do not reflect

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<v Speaker 1>the opinions of the host. The purpose of the show

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<v Speaker 1>is to have an interesting conversations, stretch our minds and

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<v Speaker 1>grow not what we want. If you are looking for

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<v Speaker 1>an echo chamber, you were listener discretion. He's advised.

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<v Speaker 2>If you talk about extremes, acknowledge the crime.

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<v Speaker 1>We were guilty from the sun.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't fear the questions.

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<v Speaker 1>They fear the.

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<v Speaker 3>Fuck so we see the fue just to see through smokings.

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<v Speaker 3>They call it trusting and they s but by it

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't have to be the dark and only show was real.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Jesse, I'm about to blow your mind, bro.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's see it all of the Trump stuff

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<v Speaker 1>where he's been talking about, you know, taking Greenland and Canada,

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<v Speaker 1>in Mexico and Venezuela. Uh. I talked to a guy

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<v Speaker 1>recently that told me that even if it's unbeknownst to Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>he is ushering in uh the Book of Revelation because

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<v Speaker 1>it talks about the b system and he had the

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<v Speaker 1>ten horns, right, so they got this technique map that

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<v Speaker 1>these technocrats are trying to bring together ten nations, and

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<v Speaker 1>the North American nation they're trying to form is all

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<v Speaker 1>of the country is that Trump's been talking about taking

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<v Speaker 1>over here recently.

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<v Speaker 2>Holy, this is gonna be good. All right, let's on second, slagging.

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<v Speaker 1>Sound from there.

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<v Speaker 2>If you don't know, now, you know that's crazy, bro?

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<v Speaker 2>How how it all just kind of keeps fold unfolding

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<v Speaker 2>the way it does? Man? He getting out of it. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>You're you're a part of the story, bro.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>The only The only thing I know from my experience

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<v Speaker 4>and the little that I looked into, the reason that Trump,

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<v Speaker 4>at least what I understand, the reason he was going

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<v Speaker 4>for Greenland is because a lot of the weaponry, artillery

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<v Speaker 4>and everything on the other side there, they're not able

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<v Speaker 4>to actually cross the ocean because they don't have enough

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<v Speaker 4>whether it's fuel or enough weaponry to get to us

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<v Speaker 4>in America. So their whole idea, I thought, was to

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<v Speaker 4>try to take over Greenland so they have a starting position,

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<v Speaker 4>like a platform to then eventually be able to reach

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<v Speaker 4>to the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>At least that's what I understanding of it is, and.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why Trump quickly went in there and was like,

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<v Speaker 4>hang on, hold up, we're gonna go ahead and take

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<v Speaker 4>Greenland now before they all started going at it, because

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<v Speaker 4>you already know that China's eyeballs were looking at it,

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<v Speaker 4>and everybody else on the other side. Russia was even

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<v Speaker 4>looking at it too, and it was like, everyone's got

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<v Speaker 4>to get there quick. If you're planning on taking out

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<v Speaker 4>the United States, you need Greenland. Please, to my understanding, man,

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<v Speaker 4>how do you feel about that? Have you read that

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<v Speaker 4>too in the news?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And I see what he's saying too. But of course,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean there's always alterior motives and multifaceted you know

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<v Speaker 1>angles with things. It's never just one. But I can

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<v Speaker 1>definitely see the security thing because it's so close to Russia,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's kind of like the buffer between US and Russia.

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<v Speaker 1>So if there is intercontinentent missiles coming, they can blast

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<v Speaker 1>them out before they get too close to us, you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know, right.

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<v Speaker 1>But of course there's you know, natural resources and things

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<v Speaker 1>like that in Greenland. I'm sure he'd like to get

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<v Speaker 1>a hold of. But finly, fear was as if we

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<v Speaker 1>did that, then the other countries of the world would

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<v Speaker 1>have been like, okay, America's doing it. It's okay for them,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're going to do it. So China they wanted

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<v Speaker 1>Taiwan forever, so then they would just go ahead and

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<v Speaker 1>in Baye Taiwan and take it, because the United States

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<v Speaker 1>took Greenland, and the same thing with Russia and the

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<v Speaker 1>whole what's that country's name again, a Ukraine? Ukraine. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all the other world leaders be like, okay, it's okay

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<v Speaker 1>for America to do it, so it's okay for the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of us too.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a very strategic scary game man, because you think

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<v Speaker 4>it's just oh, just go in there, do what you

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<v Speaker 4>got to do, buckle down and hold the fort, and

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<v Speaker 4>it's like, that's not how it goes. There's so many,

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<v Speaker 4>like you said, levels to it. Each one of those

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<v Speaker 4>variables hasn't you know, you do you change one percent

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<v Speaker 4>by the time it gets to the end, that whole

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<v Speaker 4>trajectory could be anything at that point and a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of people's and people's lives are at stake, livelihood's economies

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<v Speaker 4>are at steak, the trade systems at stake.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's why I'm just a barber broo and a

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<v Speaker 4>content creator. Man, I'm gonna I know my lane too,

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<v Speaker 4>but I also see where it's like how it kind

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<v Speaker 4>of plays out, and it's scary, bro you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, like you're talking to me and you before

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<v Speaker 1>we started recording, we have a Christian lens, so we

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<v Speaker 1>actually get to look at some of these things, not

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<v Speaker 1>just carnally but through you know, spiritual warfare kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And just like that video we watched, Revelation talks about

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<v Speaker 1>the Beast systems coming with ten horns, you know, horns

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<v Speaker 1>or a symbol for authority. So it's talking about ten kings. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what's happening. They're trying to form these ten nations.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's kind of, you know, going along with the Bible.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm a firm believer of Deuteronomy thirty two, where

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<v Speaker 1>it talks about the nations were divided amongst the maday

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<v Speaker 1>hi iloheem the sons of God. And Psalm's eighty nine

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<v Speaker 1>talks about how long will you rule unjustly show partiality

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<v Speaker 1>to the wicked? You know, you desire to live the

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<v Speaker 1>eternal life, but you shall die and fall like any prince.

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<v Speaker 1>So you have world leaders, but you have spiritual filling

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<v Speaker 1>sons of God that are ruling over the nations and

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<v Speaker 1>whispering into the year of at these world leaders.

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<v Speaker 4>I believe, no, dude, I have one hundred hundred percent believe.

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<v Speaker 4>But I just get an interview with Gabe parole Man.

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<v Speaker 4>He's a kid, He's not a kid. He's a young man.

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<v Speaker 4>And he died and he went to heaven for eighteen days,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, like you know, when you die here, eighteen

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<v Speaker 4>days in heaven ain't nothing. But like he died and

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<v Speaker 4>he was in a coma and while he was there

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<v Speaker 4>he basically said that he saw the third Heaven, and

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<v Speaker 4>on his way to the third heaven where God is,

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<v Speaker 4>he said he passed the second heaven, and when he

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<v Speaker 4>was there he was able to see the spiritual warfare.

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<v Speaker 4>And when you look back to Earth, is exactly what

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<v Speaker 4>you just said. He said he saw all of these.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I guess we almost can say high ranking

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<v Speaker 4>spiritual authorities that are in on the world leaders or

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<v Speaker 4>on the leaders themselves, whispering in their ears telling them

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<v Speaker 4>what to do and what not to do, and everything's

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<v Speaker 4>going to play out the way it is man, So

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<v Speaker 4>that just goes to show man. That's like just confirmation

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<v Speaker 4>on that. And this is coming from somebody who literally

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<v Speaker 4>died and when to heaven and came back.

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<v Speaker 2>To tell us this.

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<v Speaker 4>So for us to have that kind of like insight,

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<v Speaker 4>this is that spiritual insight that the world, like you said,

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<v Speaker 4>has no idea even exists unfortunately, and that's why we're

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<v Speaker 4>in this position even deeper, you know. But but as

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<v Speaker 4>long as we keep a spiritual Christian lens to this student,

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<v Speaker 4>we should be able to navigate it. And at the

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<v Speaker 4>end of the day, the mission is going down, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the world is going to end, but we can at

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<v Speaker 4>least pivot ourselves to try to save as many people

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<v Speaker 2>At least that's my insight on it. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, because it even says that that's the whole

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<v Speaker 1>reason why he tarries in delays is for the lost.

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<v Speaker 1>He's trying to hold out as long as he can

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<v Speaker 1>because he don't want to lose any of his children.

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<v Speaker 1>But even that thing that we were talking about, it's

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<v Speaker 1>so cool that you see it in the Bible, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's what Paul is talking about. You know, we battle

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<v Speaker 1>not against flesh and blood, but against rulers, so palities,

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<v Speaker 1>spiritual wickedness in high places. That's I believe who he's

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<v Speaker 1>talking about there, and we see it in the Bible

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<v Speaker 1>Zegiel twenty eight. You know, he's talking to the King

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<v Speaker 1>of Tire, condemning him. Then all of a sudden the

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<v Speaker 1>language changes. He's like, oh, you were in the garden

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<v Speaker 1>of Eden, perfect in all your ways. To iniquity was

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<v Speaker 1>found in you, and you know, talks about all this stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's talking about Satan, the spirit behind the King

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<v Speaker 1>of Tire. So I mean, yeah, you see that stuff

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<v Speaker 1>all through the Bible.

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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy. Yeah, you're definitely one percent, man. That's why.

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<v Speaker 4>Like when I was growing up, man, you when you

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<v Speaker 4>were labeled a conspiracy theorists, everyone looked at you funny.

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<v Speaker 4>But now it's like, if you're a conspiracy theorist, you're

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<v Speaker 4>actually just someone who's just rational and normal and they

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<v Speaker 4>can see the world for what it truly is. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a conspiracy theorist all day. I'm just a normal person.

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<v Speaker 4>And usually the conspiracy theorists go on their ways until

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<v Speaker 4>the truth gets revealed and then everyone you know, no

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<v Speaker 4>one ever apologizes to the conspiracy theorists, of course not.

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<v Speaker 4>But while we're there, we are trying to warn people

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<v Speaker 4>because it's not like we want to be, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it just happens to be unfolding that way, man, So

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<v Speaker 4>it's our job to do that. I feel like, man,

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<v Speaker 4>And it's really fun.

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<v Speaker 1>That movie twenty ten, What is it with the Woody

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<v Speaker 1>Harrelson where the world's coming to in the end? Is

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<v Speaker 1>that what it is?

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty ten?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think so.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Woody Harrelson is the conspiracy theorist. He's warning everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody's laughing at him and stuff. But he's that

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<v Speaker 1>crazy cook in the RV hanging out at what was

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<v Speaker 1>it that volcano park and you'll see MD or something. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of waiting for that mountain to explode. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's beautiful, he said.

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<v Speaker 2>It finally happened. I told you, Oh, man, that was

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<v Speaker 2>what he mean.

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<v Speaker 4>But man, I'm trying to think of like what else,

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<v Speaker 4>Like it's just been it's been an onslaught of things.

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<v Speaker 4>Bro So, Like I'll be honest, I like I kind

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<v Speaker 4>of step in and then I get beat down, and

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<v Speaker 4>then I try to like come to my senses and

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<v Speaker 4>then get back into the Word, and then the Holy Spirit,

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like, takes me out, has me kind of

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<v Speaker 4>like learn a little bit more spiritually before I take

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, like how you've been kind of doing

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<v Speaker 4>or you just been kind of going balls crazy? Men?

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like I've just been reaching out to different people,

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<v Speaker 1>Genesis six echoed through all these films. So I talked

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<v Speaker 1>in the day, like nineteen ninety six, nineteen ninety seven.

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<v Speaker 1>It does sounds Reglar Ryan Nicholas Cage and love story.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it's a it's a retelling of Genesis six

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<v Speaker 1>because in that story, he's an angel and he looks

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<v Speaker 1>with her, He falls from heaven, becomes human, and they

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<v Speaker 1>fall in love, you know, and then she ends up dying.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they sleep together one night and then she

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<v Speaker 1>they even try to, I think, manipulate the viewer into

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<v Speaker 1>being like that mean nasty god. He just loved her,

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<v Speaker 1>he wanted to be with her, and he took her

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<v Speaker 1>away because he's a mean, nasty god. So it's like

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<v Speaker 1>they took Genesis six, the story from the Bible, and

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<v Speaker 1>perverted it, you know, and tried to paint them in

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<v Speaker 1>a favorable light. So I had a good time going

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<v Speaker 1>through that with my you know, biblical lens and tearing

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<v Speaker 4>It's really it's actually, you know, it's kind of fun

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<v Speaker 4>when it comes to that sense because you're as a

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<v Speaker 4>thing to talk about and for you to break down

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<v Speaker 4>with the Christian lens, things that are already recorded, and

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<v Speaker 4>you know it's already been out into the open, right.

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<v Speaker 4>You said it was like nineteen sixty seven when that

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<v Speaker 4>you're like, hold up, guys, I want you all to

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<v Speaker 4>know that God, he's not the bad guy in the story.

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<v Speaker 2>And that goes through amandad. It reminds me of like,

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<v Speaker 4>A Facebook post and it was about atheists, and I

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<v Speaker 4>hit by atheist skeptics and unbelievers all the time, and

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<v Speaker 4>they always got some edgy thing to say against me

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<v Speaker 4>and what I have to say because I'm a Christian

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<v Speaker 4>and it's whatever at this point. But one of the

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<v Speaker 4>things I always thought was really fascinating is that atheists

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<v Speaker 4>always attack the Bible right, they try to discredit it all.

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<v Speaker 4>But what I was telling them, it's like, Okay, why

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<v Speaker 4>do you always come at this story if they're in

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<v Speaker 4>the story, you know, with us, Shoo, dude, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm all over the place God and Satan. Like, if

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<v Speaker 4>you tell the story of the Bible, the atheists have

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<v Speaker 4>no problem siding with Satan in the story, even though

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<v Speaker 4>they don't believe in the story. They have no problem

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<v Speaker 4>believing that Satan was still the good guy when God

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<v Speaker 4>kicked Satan out, that they had no problem believing that

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<v Speaker 4>part of the story. It's almost like they hold on

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<v Speaker 4>to the rebellion even though they don't believe in God.

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<v Speaker 4>They love the rebellion side of the story every single time.

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<v Speaker 4>And I thought that was kind of fascinating how the

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<v Speaker 4>two kind of they're like parallel to each other. You

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<v Speaker 4>don't even believe in the book, but if you did,

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<v Speaker 4>your favorite part is the part where you know Satan

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<v Speaker 4>did the worst thing possible. It's because it's the reflection.

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<v Speaker 4>It mirrors who they are as people. And man, dude,

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<v Speaker 4>if that's not a characteristic or a trait.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the spiritual warfare, whether they realize it or not.

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<v Speaker 1>I've talked to people and said that, you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>two or three things that a lot of atheists will

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<v Speaker 1>like to throw at us to try to debunk our

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<v Speaker 1>faith in kind of like a gotcha thing. But all

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<v Speaker 1>the ones that they throw at us, it's because they're

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<v Speaker 1>ignorant to the actual story and what's going on. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>for instance, they'll say, oh, well, your God is a mean,

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<v Speaker 1>genocidal god. He brought a flood and killed everything. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>your God's real I don't want no part of him

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<v Speaker 1>because he's just a genocidal maniac. And then they'll use

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<v Speaker 1>the cleansing of the Holy Land with Joshua and Caleb

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<v Speaker 1>go in. He said, kill every man, woman, child, and animal.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a genocidal maniac. And it's like, no, both of

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<v Speaker 1>those stories have to deal with the Nephelom. The fallen

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<v Speaker 1>Nephelum giants, and it said that they were so corrupt

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<v Speaker 1>that Abraham, I'm sorry that Moses I did it again.

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<v Speaker 1>Noah and his family was the only ones that were

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<v Speaker 1>to mem in Hebrew, so that means you know that

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<v Speaker 1>that means righteous or cleans. They used that to describe

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<v Speaker 1>the sacrificial animals. So he was the only one that

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<v Speaker 1>his genes were not corrupted by the fallen angels. And

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<v Speaker 1>you see that story. I don't care where you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Every single continent, every time frame, every tongue in language,

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<v Speaker 1>people group, they all have this story. Jesse, I bet

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<v Speaker 1>they might call it by a different name.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the flood story.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I remember reading about the ones in China and

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<v Speaker 4>in India, that I know for a fact they have them.

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<v Speaker 4>They might like label it a little differently, or maybe

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<v Speaker 4>the stories a slight different, but no matter what, it's

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<v Speaker 4>the family. It's a giant flood, and it's a cleansing

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<v Speaker 4>of the world every single time. That's the main emphasis. Man, dude,

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<v Speaker 4>that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>But and the gods coming down and breeding with the women,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you have it in the Olympus. Zeus came down

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<v Speaker 1>bread with so many women made Nephelim hybrid. So the

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<v Speaker 1>Naga in India came down bread with women, made another

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<v Speaker 1>demi god race. The natives in North America called them

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<v Speaker 1>the sky people came down and stole their women. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's everywhere, dude.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean I remember even reading in the Book of

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<v Speaker 4>Genesis that talks about the giants of Renown, and I

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<v Speaker 4>believe those are the Greek gods, the mythological ones. It's

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<v Speaker 4>like it's all there, bro, Like it's under different, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it looks like appears to be different categories. And to

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<v Speaker 4>the untrained eye, they're going to look at that and

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<v Speaker 4>be like, dude, it's totally different. It's really not. Though

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<v Speaker 4>they're trying to almost like keep the story alive for

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<v Speaker 4>the people like you and me and other conspiracy theorists

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<v Speaker 4>that actually see it where you can actually have something

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<v Speaker 4>to connect the dots historically speaking.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what we do. And then it's like whoa.

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<v Speaker 4>Now the Bible even became even more trustworthy because this

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<v Speaker 4>is the only one calling this crap out. Dude, it's yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>And I remember too, like, yeah, at first they do threaten,

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<v Speaker 4>they discredit the Bible because of what God being a

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<v Speaker 4>massive killer you know, men, women and children, emphasis on

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<v Speaker 4>their children, and they freak out about that. But I

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<v Speaker 4>also remember that in that story, God even showed mercy

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<v Speaker 4>or he let them, you know, like it was like,

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<v Speaker 4>hold on, we're about to send somebody to come in

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<v Speaker 4>and wipe you guys out. You need to be you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you need to be changed. Repent God is always about

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<v Speaker 4>I always feel that if I correct me, if I'm wrong,

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<v Speaker 4>but when I read the Bible, there's always a repentance

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<v Speaker 4>part of the story. And then then he wipes them

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<v Speaker 4>out if it doesn't make that if they're not changing

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<v Speaker 4>their ways. Same with Pharaoh, you harden his heart. He

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<v Speaker 4>gave them multiple chances that eventually his heart did get

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<v Speaker 4>hardened by God, because I felt like, my wife makes

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<v Speaker 4>it really cool. The cool idea about it is that

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<v Speaker 4>the reason that God even hardened Pharaoh's heart is because

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<v Speaker 4>in the timeline, eventually there will be a converging point

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<v Speaker 4>where you must choose yes or no, and then it

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<v Speaker 4>will continue on. So at that point God did harden

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<v Speaker 4>Pharaoh's heart because he was not going to change. He

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<v Speaker 4>made it to the point of the timeline where the

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<v Speaker 4>answer was going to be no, and God's like whatever

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<v Speaker 4>the blog and then that all happened. So I always

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<v Speaker 4>thought that was kind of interesting because that's another thing

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<v Speaker 4>that a lot of skeptics like to come at me with.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like, well, why did he he had no free will?

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<v Speaker 4>If God hardened his heart, It's like, no, man, he

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<v Speaker 4>had free will multiple times before that happened. And I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know, bro, It's the Bible's a dang masterpiece, bro.

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<v Speaker 1>No, yeah, and it's living. You didn't read it ten

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<v Speaker 1>twenty times and not see something. But then in God's

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<v Speaker 1>timing when you're supposed to have it, boom, it pops

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<v Speaker 1>out to you and you catch it. And there's so

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<v Speaker 1>much stuff that's just woven in there, and I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of get into it with some people sometimes because I

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<v Speaker 1>like to die again, you know, to read languages and

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<v Speaker 1>the culture of the people, and the writings of the time,

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<v Speaker 1>even their their mythology and legends, because it influenced their

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<v Speaker 2>You know, that's what you do.

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<v Speaker 1>So but I get people tell me all the time

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes I look too deep, or you know, the Bible's

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<v Speaker 1>not esoteric. And then I tell them, I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>why did Jesus always teach in parables?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, the even the followers didn't know what

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<v Speaker 1>he was talking about. They would come to him say, Rabbi,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, what is the meaning of this? And he says,

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<v Speaker 1>I speak to them in parables because the mysteries has

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<v Speaker 1>not been given. But the mysteries have been given to you.

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<v Speaker 1>And you still ask me, Rabbi, Rabbi, you know, Sam says,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the glory of God to what conceal a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But it is the glory of kings to search things out. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not detrimental.

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<v Speaker 2>To your faith.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, if you dig, you know you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to find that. He says, knock, I'll answer, seek, and

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<v Speaker 1>you shall find it's there for us. That like to

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<v Speaker 1>dig in.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, Yeah, it's purposely there for you.

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<v Speaker 4>The ones that wanted will double double down on the

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<v Speaker 4>research to you know, look into the exploration of it.

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<v Speaker 4>And I one hundred percent agree with that, bro, because

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<v Speaker 4>it's not there. It's it's it's in the open, but

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<v Speaker 4>it's not in the open. And that's the cool thing

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<v Speaker 4>about it. And I remember too, reading that when Jesus

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<v Speaker 4>spoke in parables, that it was you speaking of heavenly things.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, like these ideas are not earthly, they're not

422
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<v Speaker 4>secular ideas, Like you're not going to truly conceptionalize them

423
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<v Speaker 4>unless you have the spirit to break down. And he

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<v Speaker 4>explained it to you in a knowing.

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<v Speaker 2>With your spirit. And that's what I find to be true.

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<v Speaker 4>Man. And like when I read the like you said too, Man,

427
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<v Speaker 4>when you read the Bible, when you read the Bible

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<v Speaker 4>at eighteen years old, it's totally different than when you're

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<v Speaker 4>twenty eight or thirty eight, forty. It's like you've lived

430
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<v Speaker 4>your life, You've got family, experienced life experience, and every

431
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<v Speaker 4>time you read the Bible, a new revelation happens. And

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<v Speaker 4>I always found that to be the coolest part about it. Man,

433
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<v Speaker 4>like what we're talking about today, four months, a year

434
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<v Speaker 4>from now, we're going to.

435
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<v Speaker 2>Talk about it.

436
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<v Speaker 4>We can literally talk about the same exact thing and

437
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<v Speaker 4>be like, wow, that all was true.

438
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<v Speaker 2>We did take Greenland.

439
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<v Speaker 4>My gosh, you know, like whatever, but like it's very cool, man.

440
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<v Speaker 4>It's this is how you know you're on the right path,

441
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<v Speaker 4>because the Holy Spirit constantly wishes that you know, God

442
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<v Speaker 4>doesn't wish that anyone should perish. So the more that

443
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<v Speaker 4>you dig your teeth into the truth, the more that

444
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<v Speaker 4>you line yourself up with the right guidance, the right direction,

445
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<v Speaker 4>and you you know, you run into things like this

446
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<v Speaker 4>on the podcast man.

447
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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmm, which I've seen on Facebook or something a

448
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<v Speaker 1>while back that you was digging into the day six

449
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<v Speaker 1>man and the whole Preadamite thing. It was that a

450
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<v Speaker 1>rabbit hole that you've been going down here recently or

451
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<v Speaker 1>is that just a post that you had found on

452
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<v Speaker 1>social and was kind of sharing it out for thoughts.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me see, I think it might have been one

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<v Speaker 4>of those sharing it out for thoughts, because I do

455
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<v Speaker 4>like to kind of throw some things out there just

456
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<v Speaker 4>to see what other people are kind of where they're at.

457
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<v Speaker 2>You know, Like I know it's tough.

458
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<v Speaker 4>It's tough because there's not everyone's not on the same

459
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<v Speaker 4>spiritual maturity. You know, some people are brand new Christians

460
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<v Speaker 4>and they read stuff like that and they're like, they

461
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<v Speaker 4>see it at face value, but they don't really sink

462
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<v Speaker 4>their teeth into the truth of what it is. Like

463
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<v Speaker 4>like you're saying, whether you know the culture, you know

464
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<v Speaker 4>the background of why they might have said those things.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to find out where that one is. Though

466
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<v Speaker 2>I can't remember.

467
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<v Speaker 1>I think it was. It might have been a month

468
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<v Speaker 1>or two ago, but I had commented on it because

469
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<v Speaker 1>I had recently found some stuff that blew my mind.

470
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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, I'd read this book my entire life

471
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<v Speaker 1>and had my assumptions and thought I had stuff figured out.

472
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<v Speaker 1>But then, like you said, forty hits, and I start

473
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<v Speaker 1>reading it and I start seeing other stuff that it

474
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<v Speaker 1>hit like me, I believe firmly at this point, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>that where it talks about the creation of man, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in day six, Yes, and then afterwards it describes Adam

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<v Speaker 1>and Eve. I was always taught that that's a re

478
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<v Speaker 1>examination of the same story. They're just telling it more detail,

479
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<v Speaker 1>and it made sense to me. But then once I

480
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<v Speaker 1>actually got to read it for myself. If you go

481
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<v Speaker 1>back and you read that, it gives you the account

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<v Speaker 1>of day six and then it goes to Adam and Eve.

483
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<v Speaker 1>But it says that, you know, he pitched the clay

484
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<v Speaker 1>from the ground and created Adam. You know, he was

485
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<v Speaker 1>a lifeless being until he breathed the of life into him.

486
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<v Speaker 1>But it says that he done all these things before

487
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<v Speaker 1>there was any vegetation on the ground. Vegetation was laid

488
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<v Speaker 1>out on day three.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, so it wasn't even like really it was there,

490
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<v Speaker 4>but it wasn't there for him to consume.

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<v Speaker 1>And see, I think that I tell people because scripture

492
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<v Speaker 1>tells you that Adam is a bene high Elohim. He

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<v Speaker 1>is a son of God. And the New Testament tells us,

494
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<v Speaker 1>you know, that if we do we run the good

495
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<v Speaker 1>race and do what we need to do, then we

496
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<v Speaker 1>can become benehi Elohems. And I'm a Divine Council guy

497
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<v Speaker 1>from Mike Heiser, you know, he talks about how that

498
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<v Speaker 1>word alohem in Genesis where it says the Eloheim you know,

499
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<v Speaker 1>said let there be light, you know, and the Eloheim said,

500
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<v Speaker 1>let us create man in our image. That it was plural.

501
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<v Speaker 1>It was a divine council. But there's one supreme creator God.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that's yahweh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>But I tell people I wonder because scripture says, you

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<v Speaker 1>know that Adam was a bene high Elohem. The Book

506
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<v Speaker 1>of Job tells us, you know, he says, where were

507
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<v Speaker 1>you when I hung the stars and done this and

508
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<v Speaker 1>done that? You know, he said when the morning stars

509
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<v Speaker 1>the boneha Eloheim saying for joy at the sight of creation.

510
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<v Speaker 1>So it says that they were there watching creation. So yes,

511
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<v Speaker 1>and we see that Adam was made before there was

512
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<v Speaker 1>any vegetation on the ground. We don't know when, it's

513
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<v Speaker 1>just before and that was day three. So I postulate

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<v Speaker 1>to some people, I'm like, very interesting if Adam was

515
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<v Speaker 1>one of those beneh Eloheim, if he was on the

516
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<v Speaker 1>divine council, yes, you know, I mean kind of helped,

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<v Speaker 1>he volunteered God with creation.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean it's very possible, man, because

519
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<v Speaker 4>the more I read into it, I understand that there

520
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<v Speaker 4>is a a one, there's a hierarchy, and there is

521
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<v Speaker 4>a spiritual council. It's very similar to like even how

522
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<v Speaker 4>God explains like courtrooms and a judge and there's like

523
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<v Speaker 4>a journey, like you're watching the trials right the end game,

524
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<v Speaker 4>Like there's there's a lot of heavenly things that are

525
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<v Speaker 4>here on Earth, and I believe that's one of them.

526
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<v Speaker 4>I believe there is a council for the universe. I

527
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<v Speaker 4>believe that Satan at one point his whole job was

528
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<v Speaker 4>to be one to test God's creation, to go to

529
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<v Speaker 4>and fro from Earth or other planets or wherever he

530
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<v Speaker 4>was doing, wherever creation was. He would test creation to

531
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<v Speaker 4>the highest standard, which was God's standard. And that's why

532
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<v Speaker 4>when he fell. And this is interesting, Bro. When I

533
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<v Speaker 4>got on that podcast with Gay Piro, he was telling

534
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<v Speaker 4>me that he saw some pretty interesting stuff with it. Bro.

535
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<v Speaker 4>He told me that he was able to jump timelines

536
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<v Speaker 4>and be able to see creation, and it blew my

537
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<v Speaker 4>mind on this part. Bro, he told me that, And

538
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<v Speaker 4>it's crazy because, like, I'm a big science guy, but

539
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<v Speaker 4>I'm also a Christian. I love the Bible, so it's

540
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<v Speaker 4>interesting when people bring it together in another light. I'm like, oh, revelation.

541
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<v Speaker 4>But he was saying that the reason, you know, when

542
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<v Speaker 4>God created the heavens and the earth, the earth was formless,

543
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<v Speaker 4>shapeless in the void, right. It was just a mass

544
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<v Speaker 4>of basically water just chilling there and the world everywhere

545
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<v Speaker 4>else was in utter darkness until God showed his face

546
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<v Speaker 4>upon the depths and separated light from dark. But where

547
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<v Speaker 4>did that darkness come from? Where did it come from?

548
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<v Speaker 4>The whole thing is that he was telling me that

549
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<v Speaker 4>there was a spiritual battle that was happening in heaven

550
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<v Speaker 4>and when Satan fell, he didn't just fall to the Earth.

551
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<v Speaker 4>Instead he created a complete utter destruction to the entire

552
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<v Speaker 4>universe was in utter darkness, and that's where God came

553
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<v Speaker 4>over found Earth, which explains why the universe is fourteen

554
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<v Speaker 4>billion years older. Is like, they like to claim that

555
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<v Speaker 4>and Earth is four billion years old. Well, how is

556
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<v Speaker 4>the universe so old and the Earth is so new?

557
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<v Speaker 4>Well there's you know, there's a math to that, and

558
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<v Speaker 4>there's a lot of science to that. But the idea

559
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<v Speaker 4>here is the universe did already previously was established, except

560
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<v Speaker 4>it went into dark, utter chaos because when Satan fell

561
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<v Speaker 4>and then the Earth, God showed his face upon it

562
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<v Speaker 4>and then decided to do creation. So Satan was wandering

563
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<v Speaker 4>around the universe. Where's God where it happened? I know

564
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<v Speaker 4>he must be doing something and the last thing I

565
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<v Speaker 4>remember is he was going to create us and that

566
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<v Speaker 4>bothered him, so he was I almost think of that

567
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<v Speaker 4>almost like a like a Marvel calm, right, like he's

568
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<v Speaker 4>yelling through the universe, Yeah, like where did he put them?

569
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<v Speaker 2>And then he finds us and he's like, how do

570
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<v Speaker 2>I get to them?

571
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<v Speaker 4>Now? I need to be clever like a snake serpent,

572
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<v Speaker 4>and I need to deceive the woman who because he

573
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<v Speaker 4>knew the God's plan. So this is the other part

574
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<v Speaker 4>that's pretty crazy. Ma I don't gonna speak too much,

575
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<v Speaker 4>but when he was when Satan was deceiving the scepter,

576
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<v Speaker 4>he deceived Eve. But the reason he did it where

577
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<v Speaker 4>he did it and made her eat of the fruit

578
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<v Speaker 4>of the knowledge of good and evil. Right. The reason

579
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<v Speaker 4>that all happened, though, is because at one point when

580
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<v Speaker 4>God created earth and he created Adam and even put

581
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<v Speaker 4>them in the garden, that was a This is Gabe's

582
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<v Speaker 4>like what he saw in the timeline. He said he

583
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<v Speaker 4>saw God because in the Bible Genesis, this is that

584
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<v Speaker 4>Adam come here the footsteps of God. Right, So that

585
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<v Speaker 4>means he must be really very close and intimate with

586
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<v Speaker 4>how close he really was in the premise of the

587
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<v Speaker 4>premise of where he was.

588
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<v Speaker 2>So anyway he was.

589
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<v Speaker 4>Able to see God eat of the fruit of the

590
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<v Speaker 4>knowledge of good and evil. God was able to do it,

591
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<v Speaker 4>and he had Adam sit down and Eve sit down,

592
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<v Speaker 4>and he would eat of it and share with them

593
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<v Speaker 4>the knowledge of everything that he was doing. But the

594
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<v Speaker 4>thing was is that he used it through the filter

595
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<v Speaker 4>of God himself, right, so it was easy for them

596
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<v Speaker 4>to digest. It was safe for them to understand God's goodness.

597
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<v Speaker 4>And that was a very intimate place. It was almost

598
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<v Speaker 4>like a church. Right, these are my two creations. I

599
00:27:21.039 --> 00:27:22.880
<v Speaker 4>love you guys so much. Let me tell you some

600
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<v Speaker 4>more about what I've done, but with me explaining it.

601
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<v Speaker 4>So when Satan came in, he went to the most

602
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<v Speaker 4>sacred place. He went to the tree of knowledge of

603
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<v Speaker 4>good and evil and asked Eve because she knew about it,

604
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<v Speaker 4>because she was learning from God and her husband. But

605
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<v Speaker 4>still she was deceived and decided to eat of it.

606
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<v Speaker 4>So it ruined everything. The intimacy. What is the next

607
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<v Speaker 4>thing happen? The next thing happens is where Adam and

608
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<v Speaker 4>Eve leave? And then God's like, where are you? But

609
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<v Speaker 4>God knows everything. God knew exactly where Adam was well,

610
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<v Speaker 4>he felt Adam leave spiritually where are you? Spiritually? We

611
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<v Speaker 4>were walking together, I was teaching you things, son, I

612
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<v Speaker 4>love you. What happens to our relationship? And and Gay

613
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<v Speaker 4>believes that during that time, if Adam would have came

614
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<v Speaker 4>back to God and repented for what he's done, God

615
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<v Speaker 4>could have fixed everything. But the fact that the man

616
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<v Speaker 4>he hid and then he didn't want to even stand

617
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<v Speaker 4>before God for forgiveness.

618
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<v Speaker 2>He was just like, all right, I'm leaving, blaim the

619
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<v Speaker 2>woman gave me.

620
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<v Speaker 1>Well, even blame God, you remember, because he said the

621
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<v Speaker 1>woman that you.

622
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<v Speaker 2>Gave me gave me.

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<v Speaker 4>His mindset was already twisted, bro. So it already goes

624
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<v Speaker 4>to show like this was the fall. The fall of

625
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<v Speaker 4>man happened, you know, quite before a lot of that

626
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<v Speaker 4>because it was a mental game.

627
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<v Speaker 2>That really is what did it? Man?

628
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<v Speaker 4>He played into them very unfortunately, very nicely, and it

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<v Speaker 4>worked very well and has been killing a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>people ever since.

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<v Speaker 2>But I thought that was people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh it is, and what you were describing is

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<v Speaker 1>and I've done some shows on it with people the

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<v Speaker 1>gap theory, and they say that there's this huge gap

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<v Speaker 1>of time they believe where he says, you know, let

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<v Speaker 1>there be light, and he created the heavens and the ears,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they think there's this great, big pause. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it could been thousands, millions of years whatever, but there's

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<v Speaker 1>this gap, and then there's this rebellion in heaven in

640
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<v Speaker 1>this fight because when it gets to where He you know, creates.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember the Hebrew word, but it was what

642
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<v Speaker 1>was it now, I can't remember. I'm going to butcher it.

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<v Speaker 1>But the Hebrew word means to re establish or re create, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So they're saying, oh, he's recreating it, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's Isaiah says that God makes nothing void. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>to toe who by bo who, that's it. They call

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<v Speaker 1>it void.

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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly what.

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<v Speaker 4>Gabe was telling me bro on the podcast. But God

650
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<v Speaker 4>doesn't create anything in nothing that there's always a reason

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<v Speaker 4>behind it.

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<v Speaker 2>So Dan, dude, that's crazy, dude, That's exactly what he said.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And when I talk about it in my book,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe in the ancients did too. You read all

655
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<v Speaker 1>the legends and the extra Biblical books. It all kind

656
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<v Speaker 1>of coincides with it. Like Ezekiel twenty eight that I

657
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<v Speaker 1>mentioned earlier. You know, it's pretty unanimous that everybody believes

658
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<v Speaker 1>that they're talking about Satan. And in there it says,

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<v Speaker 1>every precious stone was your covering. Yes, and he says

660
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<v Speaker 1>barrel onyx, topaz jasper, he names all these stones. The

661
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<v Speaker 1>Masoretic texts lists nine, but the Septuagen lists twelve. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a carbon copy polaroid picture of the priestley

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<v Speaker 1>E fought, So it's painting Satan in a priestly role.

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<v Speaker 1>And then after that it says, and you defiled your sanctuaries,

665
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<v Speaker 1>So it paints him in a priestly roll. It says

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<v Speaker 1>he has a sanctuary, but he defiled it. The ancious

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<v Speaker 1>believed that the coverings that was given to Adam was

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<v Speaker 1>the skins or coverings of the nakash, and that's the

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<v Speaker 1>word in Hebrew for serpent. It camming serpent, but can

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<v Speaker 1>also mean the shining one or the one who practices divination.

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<v Speaker 1>So they believe that at the fall, Satan was stripped

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<v Speaker 1>of his priestly position and dominion that he had, and

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<v Speaker 1>his garment, his robe, his coverings was given to Adam,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's why Adam was given dominion over earth. And

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<v Speaker 1>all the rabbis trace their beginnings back to Adam that

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<v Speaker 1>he was the first king and priest over all creation.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was pretty wild.

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<v Speaker 4>The parallel to that isn't real. Damn man, I got

679
00:31:19.519 --> 00:31:21.960
<v Speaker 4>to look into that one. That sounds super deep. So

680
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<v Speaker 4>they're literally trying to reflect what Adam has already been

681
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<v Speaker 4>given dominion, you know, by the world, that he had

682
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<v Speaker 4>the dominion over the world because Satan basically lost his role.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like a lost your position, buddy, You're going to

684
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<v Speaker 4>give it to the next guy. And that's where we

685
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<v Speaker 4>had at Manday.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a mirror image of the prodigal Son, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>because if you look at the prodigal son, there's an

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<v Speaker 1>elder son right like, look you go back to job

689
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<v Speaker 1>like I was talking about, they were there at the

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<v Speaker 1>side of creation and there are sons of God. So

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about a family. Here we are the younger brother,

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<v Speaker 1>the angelic racet, you know, including Satan. The Nakash is

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<v Speaker 1>our elder other, the parable of the prodigal son, and

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<v Speaker 1>all the stories man God Jacob and esau Cain and Abel.

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<v Speaker 1>God always favors the younger son, and that's us. It's

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<v Speaker 1>telling the over all these little stories, these microcosms are

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<v Speaker 1>telling the big overall story of us, our story and

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<v Speaker 1>our struggle, our fight in the family of God against

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<v Speaker 1>our elder brother, the angelic race. And so when you

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<v Speaker 1>get to that parable of the prodigal son, yep, the

701
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<v Speaker 1>son leaves, squanders the money, and the inheritance comes back,

702
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<v Speaker 1>but the father welcomes him back with open arms, and

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<v Speaker 1>the older brother's pissed.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep, And they say, remember right, the father even put

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<v Speaker 4>on the robe over the son, didn't he He took him.

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<v Speaker 1>A robe of authority and a signet ring of authority.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, that's Satan, folks, that's the angelic host.

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<v Speaker 2>Dang, that's deep, bro. This is why the Bible is

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<v Speaker 2>so perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's awesome, dude, it is, dude.

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<v Speaker 4>It's so many hyperlinks. That's why I love you. Ever

712
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<v Speaker 4>see that little the little chart with all the hyper lynxes,

713
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<v Speaker 4>like three hundred thousand of them, It's like it's a

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<v Speaker 4>possible bro forty authorsteen hundred years. Naw, they didn't know

715
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<v Speaker 4>it was God. But man, dude, that's really good. That's

716
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<v Speaker 4>a good find. That is a really good fine. I

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<v Speaker 4>gotta look more into that myself. I might have to

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<v Speaker 4>make a post on that one.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get your address, man, and I'll send you a

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<v Speaker 1>copy of my book. I talk about all that stuff

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<v Speaker 1>in my book.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, dude, I've actually seen you.

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<v Speaker 4>You drop that, man, you were doing some book signings

724
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<v Speaker 4>and stuff like that, right, and it's a Esau, right,

725
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<v Speaker 4>it was, Yeah, the epic of Esau. There was the

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<v Speaker 4>epoch of Esau. Dude, So good that you did that. Man,

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<v Speaker 4>It's cool that you're you for me. It's like, do

728
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<v Speaker 4>you have a degree or anything in this.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm a good old boy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah no, hey, nothing wrong with that rope me too.

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<v Speaker 4>But like I think a lot of people assume that

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<v Speaker 4>you have to have all of these different degrees to

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<v Speaker 4>be able to just be fascinated with something because I

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<v Speaker 4>feel like when someone like you you do it right,

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<v Speaker 4>like you love it, and so would somebody I'm sure

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<v Speaker 4>that's a biblical scholar would love to research this stuff too.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's kind of like.

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<v Speaker 4>An overarching umbrella turn But who's going to study that

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<v Speaker 4>specific thing harder than you? You know, and you are

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<v Speaker 4>you are the what do they call it, like a

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<v Speaker 4>specialist in that particular category. So when you when you

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<v Speaker 4>were able to tie it together, not everyone's going to

743
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<v Speaker 4>be pray. It's like a Dan McCallan or something like that,

744
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<v Speaker 4>or a Wes Huff. I love west Huff. I think

745
00:34:14.239 --> 00:34:16.519
<v Speaker 4>he does really a really good job. But I do

746
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<v Speaker 4>feel like he's more overarching, you know what I mean.

747
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<v Speaker 4>He's good in a lot of different things, different fragmental

748
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<v Speaker 4>pieces of the pop hyras you know, p. Fifty two,

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<v Speaker 4>And he's really good at all that information, but you're

750
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<v Speaker 4>really good at breaking down the correlation between the two.

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<v Speaker 2>And I like the way you break it down, like

752
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<v Speaker 2>you just did it.

753
00:34:32.119 --> 00:34:34.840
<v Speaker 4>You made it simple, something complex, tied it all together

754
00:34:34.880 --> 00:34:37.519
<v Speaker 4>and simplified it. And I think that's what the world needs, man,

755
00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:41.119
<v Speaker 4>especially when we all read it a fifth grade reading level. Well, yeah,

756
00:34:41.360 --> 00:34:44.280
<v Speaker 4>as simple as possible, but as impactful as God would

757
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<v Speaker 4>want it to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I'm a big fan of Michael Heiser, and he

759
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<v Speaker 1>was a scholar, but he actually dumbed things down a

760
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<v Speaker 1>whole lot and explained him to where simple people like

761
00:34:54.199 --> 00:34:57.039
<v Speaker 1>us could understand it. And he used to jokingly say,

762
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<v Speaker 1>he said, well, I guess I'm just the gand off

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<v Speaker 1>of this story. He said. I take the knowledge, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, and bring it to middle Earth and deliver

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00:35:06.039 --> 00:35:08.280
<v Speaker 1>it to you guys. You know. So I tell people

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<v Speaker 1>I love this nerdy stuff and I'm forty year old,

767
00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:15.559
<v Speaker 1>barely graduated twelfth grade and that was twenty years ago, folks.

768
00:35:15.559 --> 00:35:18.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm no rocket scientist. I must see plus average guy.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you find something you love, man, you just

770
00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:24.119
<v Speaker 1>latch onto it. And that's what I've done. So then

771
00:35:24.679 --> 00:35:26.840
<v Speaker 1>I like looking into it and talking about it. So

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00:35:26.920 --> 00:35:29.679
<v Speaker 1>people that tune into my show and my social media

773
00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:32.119
<v Speaker 1>is and I explain these things, that's I hear a lot.

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00:35:32.159 --> 00:35:33.880
<v Speaker 1>They're like, man, I love how you break this stuff

775
00:35:33.920 --> 00:35:37.079
<v Speaker 1>down so simple that I can understand it. And I'm like, yep,

776
00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:39.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm the redneck Rosetta Stone.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I love.

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<v Speaker 4>I really do like your content a lot, man, which

779
00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:47.800
<v Speaker 4>reminds me of the people that didn't like your content.

780
00:35:48.039 --> 00:35:52.079
<v Speaker 4>I saw that posts that these people were gonna be

781
00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:54.000
<v Speaker 4>on your podcast, and they were like, you said, two

782
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<v Speaker 4>shiny Polish Christians, and that I feel like hurts. So

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<v Speaker 4>I don't mean to switch the topic so harsh like that,

784
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<v Speaker 4>but it's kind of like, I like the way that

785
00:36:03.079 --> 00:36:04.920
<v Speaker 4>you break it down, man, and I think if you're

786
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<v Speaker 4>going to talk about the Bible, I want to see

787
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<v Speaker 4>the grit. I want to see the blood, sweat and tears.

788
00:36:09.519 --> 00:36:12.159
<v Speaker 4>I want to know what I'm saved from. You know, like,

789
00:36:12.440 --> 00:36:15.480
<v Speaker 4>who is this satan? What did he really do? What

790
00:36:15.559 --> 00:36:18.719
<v Speaker 4>was his strategy? People don't like even like saying the name.

791
00:36:18.760 --> 00:36:21.440
<v Speaker 4>It's like saying Voldemort or something like, Dude, you don't

792
00:36:21.440 --> 00:36:23.719
<v Speaker 4>even know the enemy. You don't even know the tactics

793
00:36:23.719 --> 00:36:26.199
<v Speaker 4>that he's doing. If you don't know him, dude, you're

794
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<v Speaker 4>probably falling for every one.

795
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<v Speaker 2>Of his traps. You don't even know it end up.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, So like when I man, when I get those

797
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<v Speaker 4>kind of godly people, the righteous ones, is yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 4>so hard for me to like really wrap my head

799
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<v Speaker 4>around it. I'm like, how deep are you planning on

800
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<v Speaker 4>getting here? Are you doing this for book sales? Please

801
00:36:42.480 --> 00:36:44.639
<v Speaker 4>don't be doing it for book sales, you know, Like

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<v Speaker 4>I hope we're like we're trying to really talk about

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<v Speaker 4>the gospel of Jesus Christ, and it's already hard enough

804
00:36:50.039 --> 00:36:52.000
<v Speaker 4>to do that. You know, I don't want to feel

805
00:36:52.039 --> 00:36:54.840
<v Speaker 4>like there's gatekeeping involved or there's walls to climb over

806
00:36:55.199 --> 00:36:57.360
<v Speaker 4>being a Christian and simply if I were to just

807
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<v Speaker 4>use my platform and talk about the god spool solely.

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<v Speaker 2>That's already enough effort, Bro. It's it's tough. That is

809
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<v Speaker 2>a day, that is a lifetime worth of work.

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<v Speaker 4>And if people are not on your side to help

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<v Speaker 4>you promote and go, you know, you got a different branch, bro,

812
00:37:12.400 --> 00:37:15.119
<v Speaker 4>you got a different type of audience. It's a very unique,

813
00:37:15.400 --> 00:37:17.639
<v Speaker 4>very in depth I would feel audience.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's why that's what I get out of you. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>And I watch you.

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00:37:20.000 --> 00:37:23.039
<v Speaker 4>I appreciate kind of like a blurry creatures a little bit.

817
00:37:23.079 --> 00:37:24.039
<v Speaker 4>You know you ever watch them?

818
00:37:24.320 --> 00:37:24.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

819
00:37:24.719 --> 00:37:25.559
<v Speaker 2>Really good stuff too.

820
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<v Speaker 4>Man, and you guys are like my two favorites when

821
00:37:28.360 --> 00:37:30.199
<v Speaker 4>it comes to that in Demon Erasers if you.

822
00:37:30.119 --> 00:37:31.519
<v Speaker 2>Ever watched that vibe too.

823
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, me and Brian are real good friends. He actually

824
00:37:34.039 --> 00:37:36.800
<v Speaker 1>made my new logo I love Brian to death. I'm

825
00:37:36.800 --> 00:37:39.960
<v Speaker 1>actually going to California to record with a guy named

826
00:37:40.000 --> 00:37:42.480
<v Speaker 1>Apollo in May, and he was like, Man, you need

827
00:37:42.519 --> 00:37:44.679
<v Speaker 1>to come see me if you're going to be this close. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>guys and guys, I hope you enjoyed that. Here. I

829
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<v Speaker 1>got to stop you because only the cool kids can

830
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<v Speaker 1>go from here. This is an all access past exclusive

831
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<v Speaker 1>and if you are not a member, hey, man, it's easy.

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<v Speaker 1>I got links down in description. Head on over to

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00:37:59.199 --> 00:38:02.000
<v Speaker 1>the website for me at This lenspodcast dot com and

834
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<v Speaker 1>sign up for the All Accesspass and join a group

835
00:38:05.039 --> 00:38:07.800
<v Speaker 1>of like minded people like yourself that have started this

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