WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.520 This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast 2 00:00:03.640 --> 00:00:05.719 edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to 3 00:00:05.759 --> 00:00:08.240 give us a five star rating if you'd be so kind, 4 00:00:08.320 --> 00:00:11.599 and to subscribe, download, and listen to the show every 5 00:00:11.679 --> 00:00:15.599 single day on your favorite podcast platform. The good news 6 00:00:15.640 --> 00:00:17.719 to start the day, Heidig and All is going to 7 00:00:17.800 --> 00:00:21.039 co host today, and I'm so happy about that because 8 00:00:21.079 --> 00:00:24.120 when Amy and I were taking our thirtieth anniversary trip 9 00:00:24.160 --> 00:00:26.679 and we were overseas, and then, you know, we come 10 00:00:26.719 --> 00:00:30.120 out of the GOP convention and then Biden is deposed 11 00:00:30.160 --> 00:00:32.320 and Heidi was doing the show. She was kind enough 12 00:00:32.359 --> 00:00:33.960 to have me on, and Heidi we got into a 13 00:00:34.039 --> 00:00:37.759 conversation that I really wanted to follow up on. 14 00:00:37.960 --> 00:00:41.079 So great of you to co host today because we're. 15 00:00:40.880 --> 00:00:43.200 Going to obviously be talking a lot about maybe the 16 00:00:43.240 --> 00:00:46.960 most psycho presidential race in our country's history. But part 17 00:00:47.000 --> 00:00:50.359 of that is the comment you made just after the 18 00:00:50.399 --> 00:00:53.719 coup and Harris was being installed, and you made the 19 00:00:53.759 --> 00:00:56.000 comment about, wait a second, you know, and I'm paraphrasing, 20 00:00:56.119 --> 00:00:59.159 got to be really really careful here, to be focused 21 00:00:59.200 --> 00:01:01.479 on the issue and not on this falling out of 22 00:01:01.479 --> 00:01:02.560 the coconut tree stuff. 23 00:01:02.600 --> 00:01:03.280 And stuff like that. 24 00:01:03.320 --> 00:01:05.120 So I wanted to put some more meat on those 25 00:01:05.200 --> 00:01:07.120 bones and find out because I know you to be 26 00:01:08.079 --> 00:01:10.480 very attuned. I mean you also happen to be female, right, 27 00:01:11.000 --> 00:01:13.719 but very very attuned to all of that, and just 28 00:01:13.799 --> 00:01:17.719 from a woman's perspective as well as a candidate for 29 00:01:17.840 --> 00:01:21.760 governor and all of that, where you would recommend, if 30 00:01:21.760 --> 00:01:24.799 you were advising President Trump, where you would recommend drawing 31 00:01:24.879 --> 00:01:28.760 that line between the policy and the personal. So thank 32 00:01:28.799 --> 00:01:31.400 you for being here and getting your take on everything 33 00:01:31.439 --> 00:01:33.560 else today as well. And where do we start on 34 00:01:33.599 --> 00:01:36.840 that stuff? I mean, we have the Middle East completely 35 00:01:36.879 --> 00:01:40.120 on the brink now because of the Biden Harris weakness 36 00:01:40.680 --> 00:01:43.200 and then everything else that's going on locally, and I 37 00:01:43.239 --> 00:01:44.840 want to get your take on VP. You and I 38 00:01:44.879 --> 00:01:48.159 were watching together a second ago as CNN flashed up 39 00:01:48.200 --> 00:01:53.400 its headline Harris campaign says no VP choice yet and 40 00:01:54.159 --> 00:01:56.159 their joint rally is just hours away. 41 00:01:57.079 --> 00:02:02.439 Well, hello, Dan, to be here and so happy to 42 00:02:02.480 --> 00:02:03.560 be co hosting with you. 43 00:02:04.319 --> 00:02:05.560 Boy, there's a lot to talk about. 44 00:02:05.560 --> 00:02:07.760 It kept preparing earlier today and I kept having to 45 00:02:07.840 --> 00:02:10.080 change my notes because a whole other issue would come up, 46 00:02:10.080 --> 00:02:12.159 and I'm like, wait, it's like whack a mole. Right now, 47 00:02:12.159 --> 00:02:15.280 there's so much going on, but on Kamala. 48 00:02:15.439 --> 00:02:17.840 Now you're not calling her a mole, are you? Hause 49 00:02:17.879 --> 00:02:19.120 I thought no name calling. 50 00:02:19.479 --> 00:02:25.080 No, No, I'm calling her Kamala. Kamala can No, it's 51 00:02:25.120 --> 00:02:25.680 whack a mole. 52 00:02:25.680 --> 00:02:28.520 With all the issues going on, it's like you talk 53 00:02:28.560 --> 00:02:30.719 about one, then something else pops up, and today the 54 00:02:30.759 --> 00:02:33.639 news is crazy about lots of different things. 55 00:02:33.680 --> 00:02:36.639 But I do think we've. 56 00:02:36.400 --> 00:02:39.560 Got to be very careful and cautious about crossing that line, 57 00:02:39.560 --> 00:02:42.199 only because it gives fodder to the Democrats and to 58 00:02:42.360 --> 00:02:46.680 the more establishment Republicans that are anti Trump. They they 59 00:02:46.759 --> 00:02:49.000 want him to stickle, you know, all of a sudden, 60 00:02:49.039 --> 00:02:52.159 become this guy that stays right on the message and 61 00:02:52.199 --> 00:02:53.120 talks about the issue. 62 00:02:54.120 --> 00:02:54.439 Yeah. 63 00:02:54.520 --> 00:02:56.719 And I keep telling my friends who say that to me, like, 64 00:02:57.240 --> 00:03:00.000 you know, the guy's won a few times. He knows 65 00:03:00.159 --> 00:03:02.759 how to play this game. Let Trump be Trump. We 66 00:03:02.840 --> 00:03:06.000 thought him tweeting was a terrible thing in the first election, 67 00:03:06.080 --> 00:03:07.639 and it turned out that it was kind of nice 68 00:03:07.639 --> 00:03:09.960 to be able to see what was going on inside 69 00:03:10.360 --> 00:03:12.919 his head about how he wanted to lead our country. 70 00:03:13.039 --> 00:03:16.439 So I say, let Trump be Trump. Don't get too 71 00:03:16.520 --> 00:03:19.120 much in the way, but be respectful. There are so 72 00:03:19.280 --> 00:03:21.840 many things to pick on her about without having to 73 00:03:21.879 --> 00:03:25.120 go down that she's a woman path. I could go 74 00:03:25.159 --> 00:03:28.000 on and on about the issues. The border's MSS, the 75 00:03:28.479 --> 00:03:30.560 Middle East is a powder keg. The markets are in 76 00:03:30.599 --> 00:03:34.919 turmoil today, inflation's crazy, prices are high, crimes rampant, and 77 00:03:35.039 --> 00:03:37.639 a lot of that is due to her and Joe 78 00:03:37.639 --> 00:03:40.719 Biden's policy. So let's just start there, try and keep 79 00:03:40.759 --> 00:03:41.520 them on track with that. 80 00:03:42.120 --> 00:03:44.240 Yeah, and that's another thing I want to talk with 81 00:03:44.280 --> 00:03:44.560 you about. 82 00:03:44.560 --> 00:03:48.000 What work in calls as well, is you know, we 83 00:03:48.080 --> 00:03:51.039 say reflexively, now you know the Biden Harris, the Biden 84 00:03:51.039 --> 00:03:53.039 hair as set because we want to tie Harris to 85 00:03:53.080 --> 00:03:55.479 Biden as much as we can since that was a failure. 86 00:03:56.199 --> 00:03:58.960 I personally don't think she had a thing to do 87 00:03:59.000 --> 00:04:01.639 with anything. I think they just I think they ignoreder. 88 00:04:01.759 --> 00:04:03.919 I think they locked her away. And this is one 89 00:04:03.960 --> 00:04:05.879 of the reasons I want to talk with you about 90 00:04:06.240 --> 00:04:10.639 what from your perspective, you know, as somebody who's experienced 91 00:04:10.840 --> 00:04:14.319 a statewide race as a woman, etc. From your perspective, 92 00:04:14.960 --> 00:04:19.920 is everything personal off limits? Because when you look at Harris, 93 00:04:19.920 --> 00:04:22.319 I don't think there's any doubt the Biden administration locked 94 00:04:22.319 --> 00:04:22.720 her away. 95 00:04:22.959 --> 00:04:25.439 I think if they had involved her to any extent, 96 00:04:25.480 --> 00:04:26.720 it would have just made it worse. 97 00:04:27.360 --> 00:04:32.839 But I think there are really fair questions about her 98 00:04:32.959 --> 00:04:36.800 beyond policy. I'm not talking about this race nonsense. I'm 99 00:04:36.839 --> 00:04:40.480 talking about fair questions about her and her capabilities, etc. 100 00:04:40.800 --> 00:04:41.800 And I'll find a bite for you. 101 00:04:41.839 --> 00:04:43.879 I want to play this bite after the Kramer bite 102 00:04:44.279 --> 00:04:48.800 where President Trump preferred to her as a low IQ individual, 103 00:04:48.879 --> 00:04:50.439 and I want to get your take on that now. 104 00:04:50.439 --> 00:04:54.720 Of course, immediately, you know the leftist media, which is 105 00:04:54.720 --> 00:04:57.519 almost all of it, labeled that racist, just as they're 106 00:04:57.560 --> 00:05:02.439 going to label every criticism, almost every criticism of her racist. 107 00:05:02.480 --> 00:05:05.319 But speaking of the markets, Heidi, and I know you 108 00:05:05.360 --> 00:05:07.439 to be a very astute businesswoman, so we want to 109 00:05:07.439 --> 00:05:09.959 get your advice to people as well. Here is Jim 110 00:05:10.079 --> 00:05:15.480 Kramer's advice on CNBC as to impart how to deal 111 00:05:15.519 --> 00:05:17.399 with all this financial turmoil today. 112 00:05:17.959 --> 00:05:18.959 I turn the stock party. 113 00:05:19.240 --> 00:05:23.040 If you care about your paycheck with you go with Trump. 114 00:05:23.319 --> 00:05:26.680 If that's what you do, you do, Yeah, well, he 115 00:05:26.720 --> 00:05:30.240 wants to cut you to I love. 116 00:05:30.160 --> 00:05:31.959 You think we're going to be seeing that in a spot. 117 00:05:32.399 --> 00:05:32.800 I hope. 118 00:05:32.839 --> 00:05:34.639 So I think the Trump campaign should use it in 119 00:05:34.680 --> 00:05:35.879 a spot that's beautiful. 120 00:05:36.000 --> 00:05:38.639 And let me play this for you. This is Cassie 121 00:05:38.680 --> 00:05:43.199 Hans CNN, and she's claiming that Trump slamming Harris as 122 00:05:43.199 --> 00:05:46.720 a quote low IQ individual is race related. And then 123 00:05:46.720 --> 00:05:48.360 I want to get your take on two things. First, 124 00:05:48.399 --> 00:05:51.720 is it race related? But then more broadly, do you 125 00:05:51.879 --> 00:05:54.800 think this sort of thing is fair game? Should President 126 00:05:54.839 --> 00:05:56.240 Trump be going there or not? 127 00:05:56.959 --> 00:06:01.639 We're going to defeat crazy Kamala kama La. You know, 128 00:06:01.680 --> 00:06:03.639 there's about nineteen different ways of saying it. 129 00:06:03.759 --> 00:06:04.720 She only likes three. 130 00:06:04.959 --> 00:06:05.639 She was here a. 131 00:06:05.639 --> 00:06:09.160 Week ago, lots of empty seats, but the crowds you 132 00:06:09.240 --> 00:06:11.240 got was because she had entertainers. 133 00:06:11.399 --> 00:06:12.839 Q refuses to. 134 00:06:14.319 --> 00:06:15.959 Even say the words. 135 00:06:15.639 --> 00:06:20.279 Illegal alien or radical Islamic terra. She is considered more 136 00:06:20.360 --> 00:06:22.519 left wing than crazy Bernie Sanders. 137 00:06:22.519 --> 00:06:23.079 Look at her. 138 00:06:23.959 --> 00:06:24.800 She's worse than. 139 00:06:24.639 --> 00:06:29.519 Bernie, and she happens to be really a low IQ individual. 140 00:06:29.800 --> 00:06:33.079 Hey, low IQ individual. That was a selection of the 141 00:06:33.160 --> 00:06:34.040 various ways. 142 00:06:33.800 --> 00:06:36.560 In which Donald Trump is going on offense against his 143 00:06:36.680 --> 00:06:37.240 new rival. 144 00:06:37.480 --> 00:06:39.560 I mean, Megan Hay's this low IQ stuff. 145 00:06:39.600 --> 00:06:43.240 I mean, it's definitely race related, right, your take? 146 00:06:43.560 --> 00:06:46.600 That's nuts? It does not have anything to do with race. 147 00:06:47.000 --> 00:06:49.160 It has to do with her inability to have a 148 00:06:49.199 --> 00:06:53.480 coherent conversation or answer a question for the press. I mean, 149 00:06:53.560 --> 00:06:55.839 the clips that are going around are crazy to watch 150 00:06:55.920 --> 00:06:59.079 her try and articulate any kind of policy. And I 151 00:06:59.079 --> 00:07:01.959 would love for her take on her economic policy after today, 152 00:07:02.000 --> 00:07:04.240 with the markets and what's going on. Does she even 153 00:07:04.319 --> 00:07:06.759 understand what the stock market does? I know that she 154 00:07:06.920 --> 00:07:09.480 wants to with Biden if she follows his twenty five 155 00:07:09.519 --> 00:07:13.560 budget plan put a tax on unrealized gains, which today 156 00:07:13.639 --> 00:07:16.040 would be a disaster. 157 00:07:15.920 --> 00:07:17.040 For most Americans. 158 00:07:17.560 --> 00:07:20.639 So yeah, I think I think it had nothing to do. 159 00:07:20.560 --> 00:07:24.199 With race at all, commonomics. I just coined that. 160 00:07:24.160 --> 00:07:26.480 Phrase that's good better trademarket. 161 00:07:26.639 --> 00:07:27.759 Yes, absolutely. 162 00:07:27.920 --> 00:07:31.959 But then I look at this, okay, and you think, 163 00:07:32.759 --> 00:07:36.639 how could anybody utter those words that calling her a 164 00:07:36.639 --> 00:07:39.759 low IQ individual as race related? Because think about what 165 00:07:39.800 --> 00:07:43.399 the thought process must be for the person in this case. 166 00:07:43.480 --> 00:07:47.600 Cassie Hunt's saying that awful thing. So she is associating 167 00:07:48.319 --> 00:07:52.560 people of color with low IQ. I mean, how could 168 00:07:52.600 --> 00:07:55.279 a you men even get there? But the racial issue 169 00:07:55.319 --> 00:07:57.920 is clearly on the part of Cassie Hunt, not on 170 00:07:57.959 --> 00:08:01.079 the part of Donald Trump. It's the opposite when somebody 171 00:08:01.600 --> 00:08:04.120 if somebody looks at a person and I want to 172 00:08:04.160 --> 00:08:06.160 get your taken whether you think Kamala is low IQ. 173 00:08:06.720 --> 00:08:09.279 But if somebody looks at a person and says, Wow, 174 00:08:09.319 --> 00:08:12.240 I really think that person's low IQ. But I'm not 175 00:08:12.360 --> 00:08:14.680 willing to say that because of the color of their skin, 176 00:08:14.759 --> 00:08:18.160 whatever that color may be to me, that's racism. The 177 00:08:18.160 --> 00:08:20.399 opposite of racism is saying I'm going to treat you 178 00:08:20.439 --> 00:08:21.199 like everybody else. 179 00:08:22.800 --> 00:08:24.319 Yeah, so is. 180 00:08:24.279 --> 00:08:26.519 This and we're up against our break, so let's tease 181 00:08:26.519 --> 00:08:30.439 it to the other side. But should the president be 182 00:08:30.519 --> 00:08:35.000 going down this road? Is it you think fair game accurate? 183 00:08:35.159 --> 00:08:37.879 And even if it's accurate, should he tactically be going 184 00:08:37.919 --> 00:08:40.279 down this road of referring to her as low IQ? 185 00:08:41.559 --> 00:08:42.039 Is there? 186 00:08:42.960 --> 00:08:46.799 If not, is there another way to communicate concerns over 187 00:08:48.039 --> 00:08:50.000 her her intellectual processing? 188 00:08:50.759 --> 00:08:53.159 But Heidigen all kind enough to co host the show today. 189 00:08:53.159 --> 00:08:55.399 Obviously we're going to be talking about the market turmoil 190 00:08:55.440 --> 00:08:58.039 as it applies to the campaign and to your life, 191 00:08:58.200 --> 00:09:01.600 talking about whether President Trump anxious to get Heidie's take, 192 00:09:02.120 --> 00:09:04.960 whether he has the right strategy here to offer to debate, 193 00:09:05.080 --> 00:09:08.559 but only on Fox refuse the ABC debate that and 194 00:09:08.679 --> 00:09:09.039 much more. 195 00:09:09.080 --> 00:09:10.600 You're on the Dame Capless Show. 196 00:09:12.440 --> 00:09:14.840 And now back to the Dan Kaplass Show podcast. 197 00:09:15.559 --> 00:09:18.960 We have to say woke, like everybody needs to be woke, 198 00:09:21.440 --> 00:09:23.559 and you can talk about if you're the wokest or 199 00:09:23.639 --> 00:09:26.720 woke her just stay more woke than less woke. 200 00:09:27.759 --> 00:09:27.960 Yeah. 201 00:09:28.759 --> 00:09:31.480 Can we just run that like in every swing state, 202 00:09:31.840 --> 00:09:35.200 every spot until election Day? No, we can't because there's 203 00:09:35.200 --> 00:09:37.559 an even better one, Merry Christmas. Did you hear that 204 00:09:37.600 --> 00:09:40.960 one where she rails against merry Christmas. 205 00:09:41.000 --> 00:09:43.720 We can't say Merry Christmas. Don't say Merry Christmas. 206 00:09:44.399 --> 00:09:46.559 There's so many, Dan, there's so many. 207 00:09:46.720 --> 00:09:50.240 My favorite Ryan knows this is the cackling, the ongoing cackling. 208 00:09:50.919 --> 00:09:51.919 Ryan will have to play it for. 209 00:09:52.080 --> 00:09:54.039 That's the one I created with the jokers laugh. 210 00:09:56.279 --> 00:10:00.360 Yeah, but I like to sleep too, boy, So Hei, 211 00:10:00.399 --> 00:10:01.759 do you tell me before we go to the phone 212 00:10:01.799 --> 00:10:06.840 lines and start getting text in here? This President Trump 213 00:10:06.919 --> 00:10:10.360 labeling Kamala Harris as a low IQ individual. You know, 214 00:10:10.679 --> 00:10:13.600 I do think it's fair to talk about the cognitive 215 00:10:13.639 --> 00:10:17.919 capacity of a presidential candidate, and I think anybody who's 216 00:10:18.000 --> 00:10:21.120 being honest about it can recognize that there are some 217 00:10:21.279 --> 00:10:24.360 issues there with Kamala Harris. Do you think low IQ 218 00:10:24.679 --> 00:10:28.360 individual just in terms of tactics winning the election, you know, 219 00:10:29.120 --> 00:10:32.720 getting enough of the women's vote to win low IQ individual? 220 00:10:32.759 --> 00:10:34.120 Are you good with that? Would you do it a 221 00:10:34.120 --> 00:10:36.720 different way or do you just disagree with the premise. 222 00:10:37.559 --> 00:10:40.440 It's not my favorite approach, but I'm not running for 223 00:10:40.480 --> 00:10:43.759 president and Donald Trump is. So you know, I know 224 00:10:43.799 --> 00:10:47.320 I from running for governor that you talk so much, 225 00:10:47.759 --> 00:10:50.399 whether you're speed doing speeches or interviews. 226 00:10:51.039 --> 00:10:51.840 You know, just on the. 227 00:10:51.840 --> 00:10:54.639 Trail, you start to get relaxed and get into your 228 00:10:54.639 --> 00:10:57.440 groove and sometimes you say things that you wouldn't you know, 229 00:10:57.600 --> 00:11:01.360 probably have phased differently. But Donald's going to do Donald, 230 00:11:01.480 --> 00:11:03.759 So let's just, you know, call it what it is. 231 00:11:04.200 --> 00:11:07.399 And part of that with Donald doing Donald was going 232 00:11:07.440 --> 00:11:10.360 after Governor Kemp in Georgia over the weekend, right, and 233 00:11:10.759 --> 00:11:12.960 George obviously key state you have to have And I 234 00:11:13.039 --> 00:11:15.279 understand all the folks who said, wait a second, that's 235 00:11:15.320 --> 00:11:19.360 on discipline. That's crazy, why are you doing that. On 236 00:11:19.440 --> 00:11:23.480 the other hand, listen, I think part of the big 237 00:11:23.480 --> 00:11:27.600 appeal of President Trump is his authenticity. He's not just 238 00:11:27.679 --> 00:11:31.519 a typical, measured politician, and I think that's a tremendous 239 00:11:31.639 --> 00:11:34.639 contrast point with Kamala Harris, who is Lord knows what. 240 00:11:34.879 --> 00:11:38.960 So would I have preferred that he not criticize Governor Kemp? 241 00:11:39.440 --> 00:11:41.840 Yes, you know, because I desperately want to win Georgia. 242 00:11:41.919 --> 00:11:44.320 But when you look at the bigger picture, these contrasts 243 00:11:44.559 --> 00:11:49.480 string versus weakness, authentic versus fake, you know there are 244 00:11:49.559 --> 00:11:52.679 big contrasts in his favor. Let's go to beautiful Colorado Springs. 245 00:11:52.720 --> 00:11:55.279 Start with Mark. You're on with Dan Kaplis and co 246 00:11:55.360 --> 00:11:58.120 hosting today the Wonderful Heidi Ganal, How you doing. 247 00:11:57.960 --> 00:12:02.200 Mark, and find two of you. Thank you for taking 248 00:12:02.279 --> 00:12:05.320 my call. Hey, I just wanted to talk a little 249 00:12:05.360 --> 00:12:11.080 bit about the conversation on Friday with Dick Wadhams and 250 00:12:11.399 --> 00:12:14.360 Donald Trump. And here's what I see, and here's what 251 00:12:14.399 --> 00:12:16.440 I kind of feel the problem somewhat with the I'm 252 00:12:16.440 --> 00:12:18.799 a Republican Conservative, and here's what I feel as a 253 00:12:18.840 --> 00:12:23.200 problem with the Republican Party and the conversation. I felt 254 00:12:23.240 --> 00:12:24.919 like you could listen to it on the radio. Pick 255 00:12:25.559 --> 00:12:29.279 it just kind of came across that he does not 256 00:12:29.519 --> 00:12:32.080 like Donald Trump at all. He may not like the 257 00:12:32.080 --> 00:12:36.000 way he presents things and that's fine. Sometimes I wish 258 00:12:36.000 --> 00:12:38.360 he would, you know, Donald would hold back just a 259 00:12:38.360 --> 00:12:41.279 little bit. But what I just noticed like every time 260 00:12:41.320 --> 00:12:45.440 he tried to come with something positive, he was like no, 261 00:12:45.759 --> 00:12:49.320 or there was kind of a negative just connotation sound 262 00:12:49.320 --> 00:12:51.240 that would come out. And I think this is kind 263 00:12:51.240 --> 00:12:53.840 of a bigger problem I think with the Republican Party 264 00:12:54.200 --> 00:12:57.240 or someone leadership is that sometimes we look at a 265 00:12:57.960 --> 00:13:00.759 politician and if we don't like a couple of things 266 00:13:00.799 --> 00:13:02.720 with them, we're like, you know what, We're not going 267 00:13:02.799 --> 00:13:05.799 to vote for that person, or I'm just not going 268 00:13:05.840 --> 00:13:09.200 to vote at all. And where the Democrats have figured 269 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:10.960 it out, I mean it doesn't matter. They could have 270 00:13:12.080 --> 00:13:14.840 you know, hairs running like she is low IQ and everything, 271 00:13:14.879 --> 00:13:17.200 which I don't believe she's the sharpest tool in the shed, 272 00:13:18.240 --> 00:13:23.039 but they will call less around her and they will 273 00:13:23.200 --> 00:13:25.960 do everything in their power to get her elected. And 274 00:13:26.039 --> 00:13:28.960 I do like the independent thinking that Republicans have and 275 00:13:29.039 --> 00:13:32.879 concerns have. I wish we would, you know, we may 276 00:13:32.919 --> 00:13:36.360 not like everything, but I wish we would quote call 277 00:13:36.440 --> 00:13:40.799 less more around you know, our president or our governors 278 00:13:40.840 --> 00:13:41.320 that are running. 279 00:13:41.440 --> 00:13:44.360 Yeah, thank you, Mark, thank you for framing that so articulately, 280 00:13:44.639 --> 00:13:47.320 really appreciate that and want to give Heidi a chance 281 00:13:47.360 --> 00:13:49.840 to address it, but very well framed. 282 00:13:50.320 --> 00:13:52.080 He Where do you come down on that? 283 00:13:52.519 --> 00:13:52.720 Yeah? 284 00:13:52.759 --> 00:13:55.320 I agree, and I felt that running for governor, it 285 00:13:55.399 --> 00:13:56.600 was like, no, I'm not perfect. 286 00:13:56.679 --> 00:13:58.360 I'm a business person, I'm an entrepreneur. 287 00:13:58.399 --> 00:14:00.559 I care deeply about this country, and I don't have 288 00:14:00.639 --> 00:14:03.039 this all figured out. There's no rule book for running 289 00:14:03.279 --> 00:14:07.080 for president, or running for governor, or running for county commissioner. 290 00:14:07.120 --> 00:14:09.000 And so I think giving a little bit of grace 291 00:14:09.039 --> 00:14:11.879 to our candidates and understanding that it is intense. Man, 292 00:14:11.960 --> 00:14:16.000 it is hardcore, it's fun, it's crazy. But we're not 293 00:14:16.039 --> 00:14:18.759 always going to say everything the way people want us 294 00:14:19.279 --> 00:14:22.240 to say it. And we don't all agree on everything. 295 00:14:22.279 --> 00:14:24.840 That's the beauty of the Republican Party too. We're individuals. 296 00:14:25.039 --> 00:14:25.440 Yeah. 297 00:14:25.440 --> 00:14:28.080 And to Mark's point about in the case of Dick 298 00:14:28.120 --> 00:14:30.440 on Friday saying that he won't vote for Donald Trump, 299 00:14:31.120 --> 00:14:33.799 and I give you my perspective, having known Dick for 300 00:14:33.879 --> 00:14:36.480 decades now and known him as being one of the 301 00:14:36.519 --> 00:14:40.679 most deeply committed to conservative issues people I've ever met, 302 00:14:40.960 --> 00:14:43.360 and he's devoted most of his professional life to that, 303 00:14:43.559 --> 00:14:46.960 and he's won big tough races. He voted for Trump twice, 304 00:14:47.000 --> 00:14:50.120 and Dick and I disagreed on Friday, obviously, and I 305 00:14:50.200 --> 00:14:52.759 pose the obvious questions about Will not supporting him as 306 00:14:52.799 --> 00:14:56.840 helping Harris, etc. But I think the point it reached 307 00:14:56.840 --> 00:15:01.039 with Dick was that I think he's so perersddenly, deeply 308 00:15:01.080 --> 00:15:05.879 offended by President Trump's belief that the twenty twenty election 309 00:15:06.080 --> 00:15:10.240 was stolen, that Dick just can't support him, giving that 310 00:15:10.320 --> 00:15:11.960 having supported him twice before. 311 00:15:12.480 --> 00:15:15.120 And I think it's it's just reached. 312 00:15:14.879 --> 00:15:17.240 That point where it's so personally important to Dick he 313 00:15:17.559 --> 00:15:21.480 just can't go there. And you know, well, I'm going 314 00:15:21.519 --> 00:15:24.159 to support Trump, and I hope everybody else does. I 315 00:15:24.480 --> 00:15:27.600 think it is a matter of deep personal conviction for Dick, 316 00:15:27.639 --> 00:15:29.960 and I think it's very sincere on his part. I 317 00:15:29.960 --> 00:15:32.879 wish he was voting for Trump. I hope he changes 318 00:15:32.919 --> 00:15:33.960 his mind and does. 319 00:15:34.120 --> 00:15:35.600 But that's my take on it. 320 00:15:36.480 --> 00:15:38.440 Yeah, I agree with you, Dan, and I think at 321 00:15:38.440 --> 00:15:41.639 this point, though there's so much at stake in this election, 322 00:15:42.200 --> 00:15:45.720 how on earth could you let one concern keep you 323 00:15:45.720 --> 00:15:46.960 from voting for him? 324 00:15:47.000 --> 00:15:48.919 Yeah, And that's why I said to Dick, I said, 325 00:15:48.960 --> 00:15:51.440 you know what, I kind of have this fantasy of 326 00:15:51.559 --> 00:15:54.159 there you are out on the porch where nobody's looking, 327 00:15:54.279 --> 00:15:56.200 and then you're filling out your ballot and you're fill 328 00:15:56.200 --> 00:15:59.320 in that circle. Texter Dan, I'm not sure i'd call 329 00:15:59.360 --> 00:16:01.960 Kamala Lowe cue, but she sounds like she is drunk 330 00:16:02.120 --> 00:16:04.480 or impaired a lot. Listen, And I don't read that 331 00:16:04.519 --> 00:16:09.039 to do the pejorative thing, right. Did you see that 332 00:16:09.120 --> 00:16:11.799 comic the other day on with Joe Rogan who labeled 333 00:16:11.840 --> 00:16:14.759 her America's wine mom? And I'm not doing that, and 334 00:16:14.799 --> 00:16:17.279 I'm not going to use that phrase. But I think, listen, 335 00:16:17.320 --> 00:16:19.320 we're adults here. We have to be honest about what 336 00:16:19.399 --> 00:16:20.919 a lot of people are thinking. And I think there 337 00:16:20.960 --> 00:16:25.799 are a lot of people who who believe that there's 338 00:16:25.799 --> 00:16:30.039 something going on there, that there's some kind of extra 339 00:16:30.200 --> 00:16:31.480 enjoyment of life going on. 340 00:16:31.480 --> 00:16:34.440 There, extra enjoyment of life. I like that. 341 00:16:34.559 --> 00:16:36.480 DD wow. 342 00:16:37.480 --> 00:16:40.320 I think our bigger concern is how the process played out. 343 00:16:40.440 --> 00:16:44.120 That they just literally sweeped Biden out, put her in, 344 00:16:44.519 --> 00:16:49.200 anointed her the candidate, and didn't give anyone an inch 345 00:16:49.320 --> 00:16:52.320 to say anything about it, and we all went from 346 00:16:52.440 --> 00:16:52.840 she's the. 347 00:16:52.799 --> 00:16:56.480 Worst VP ever to She's the best right. 348 00:16:56.519 --> 00:17:00.279 But you My belief as to why that happened is 349 00:17:00.320 --> 00:17:02.559 that I think there's one thing you and I can 350 00:17:02.600 --> 00:17:05.599 be sure of our names. The sun rises in the 351 00:17:05.599 --> 00:17:08.400 east sets in the west. Three things. And Joe Biden 352 00:17:09.079 --> 00:17:13.200 wants Kamala Harris to lose. More broadly, Joe Biden wants 353 00:17:13.279 --> 00:17:18.000 the cabal that humiliated him and deposed him and ran 354 00:17:18.119 --> 00:17:20.759 him out of the nomination. He wants those people to lose. 355 00:17:21.799 --> 00:17:25.160 Anybody try to argue that Biden wants the people who 356 00:17:25.160 --> 00:17:27.759 took him down to succeed. So I think this was 357 00:17:27.799 --> 00:17:30.480 a Biden maneuver. I think it was a Biden maneuver 358 00:17:30.599 --> 00:17:34.039 to install Harris before the Obamas and Clooney and everybody 359 00:17:34.079 --> 00:17:36.839 else could get who they wanted, and now they're stuck 360 00:17:36.880 --> 00:17:40.920 with Harris. Which listen, could Donald Trump lose to Kamala Harris, Sure, 361 00:17:41.519 --> 00:17:43.680 but she's going to be a lot weaker than anybody 362 00:17:43.720 --> 00:17:46.119 else he would have faced, anybody in that top tier 363 00:17:46.160 --> 00:17:46.519 of theirs. 364 00:17:47.119 --> 00:17:49.440 Yeah, and it's shocking to me to see the polls 365 00:17:49.519 --> 00:17:52.440 going up for her. How on earth people can choose 366 00:17:52.480 --> 00:17:54.559 to vote for what's happening in our country right now 367 00:17:54.839 --> 00:17:55.359 shocks me. 368 00:17:55.960 --> 00:17:58.799 Yeah, But I think what we have to look forward 369 00:17:58.839 --> 00:18:01.880 to with the big smile on our is when that 370 00:18:02.000 --> 00:18:05.319 sugar high peaks, I think there's nowhere to go but down. 371 00:18:05.400 --> 00:18:08.000 She'll get a little pop now from whoever her VP is. 372 00:18:08.039 --> 00:18:10.000 But let's talk about that when we come back. There's 373 00:18:10.039 --> 00:18:12.640 to be turmoil in that front. Who will her VP be? 374 00:18:12.799 --> 00:18:14.720 You're on with heidigen All and Dan Kaplis. 375 00:18:17.799 --> 00:18:20.240 You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast. 376 00:18:21.079 --> 00:18:25.160 No longer are you necessarily keeping those private files in 377 00:18:25.279 --> 00:18:28.599 some file cabinet that's locked in the basement of the house. 378 00:18:29.720 --> 00:18:34.240 It's on your laptop and it's then therefore up here 379 00:18:34.359 --> 00:18:37.480 in this cloud that exists above us. 380 00:18:38.119 --> 00:18:41.160 Right, it's no longer in a physical place. 381 00:18:43.240 --> 00:18:44.839 And people are going to vote to put her in 382 00:18:44.960 --> 00:18:49.759 charge of like our economy and everything. So unless you're driving, 383 00:18:49.839 --> 00:18:52.119 please let's look up together and see if we can 384 00:18:52.160 --> 00:18:54.920 see the cloud. Can we see that cloud? 385 00:18:55.559 --> 00:18:58.039 All right? Let's go to Mike Davis. 386 00:18:58.119 --> 00:19:01.480 He is the founder of the Article three Foundation and 387 00:19:01.759 --> 00:19:04.039 so much more. Mike, Welcome to the Dan Kapli Show 388 00:19:04.039 --> 00:19:04.880 with Heidi Ganal. 389 00:19:06.720 --> 00:19:07.799 Connect with both of you. 390 00:19:08.160 --> 00:19:11.079 Well, thank you, Mike, appreciate you being here, and I 391 00:19:11.119 --> 00:19:14.200 know that you and Heidi have had an awful lot 392 00:19:14.200 --> 00:19:14.799 of history here. 393 00:19:14.799 --> 00:19:16.400 So Heidi, why don't you take it and run? 394 00:19:16.480 --> 00:19:16.680 Well? 395 00:19:16.720 --> 00:19:18.839 Sir, Well, Mike's so glad you could join us. I 396 00:19:18.880 --> 00:19:20.799 know you've been busy with family and took a little 397 00:19:20.799 --> 00:19:24.799 time out, but you've done some really big things on 398 00:19:24.880 --> 00:19:28.079 the judicial front. You are the chief counsel for Senator 399 00:19:28.119 --> 00:19:30.920 Grassley when he was going through the Kavanaugh nomination. You 400 00:19:30.920 --> 00:19:33.359 are a civil litigator here in Denver for a long time. 401 00:19:33.640 --> 00:19:35.480