Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZY, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: Nicole, thank you for your very kind introduction. Yep, I'm here.
Speaker 2: You know me. Morgan White Junior. Been a part of
Speaker 2: BZ since Good Grief nineteen ninety five or ninety six,
Speaker 2: and I've put together I think a strong night side
Speaker 2: show for this August first and NICOLEI you is still there?
Speaker 2: Oh oh good, Nicole. I would like to introduce you
Speaker 2: to a gentleman.
Speaker 3: All okay, Joys a live radio huh okay, there you go.
Speaker 2: I would like to introduce you to a gentleman who's
Speaker 2: been a friend of mine for decades. He has written
Speaker 2: a book about the dean of talk hosts, Jerry Williams.
Speaker 2: We all know that name, remember that name, and the
Speaker 2: book was called Burning Up the Air with Steve Elfman.
Speaker 2: They wrote it together, and he is going to be
Speaker 2: my guest for the first hour. So Alan, I want
Speaker 2: to introduce you to Nicole. And Nicole. I want to
Speaker 2: introduce you to Alan. How are you?
Speaker 3: You know better now that I get to meet you,
Speaker 3: And thank you so much for the introduction. Morgan.
Speaker 2: Oh nice, see you, Ca and Nicole. I'm looking forward
Speaker 2: to working with you obviously now, but I'll be back
Speaker 2: on Monday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday.
Speaker 3: Oh, We're going to have fun. I love that.
Speaker 2: We are going to do the best we can. And
Speaker 2: I've got a lot of interesting guests slated to be
Speaker 2: on with me. And I'm going to make a promise,
Speaker 2: and Nicole, you and Rob have to hold me to this.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm looking at Rob. We're going to do this,
Speaker 3: all right, what's up?
Speaker 2: People have said, with some consistency that I have the
Speaker 2: same old guests on. I've had allan on a number
Speaker 2: of times over the years.
Speaker 3: Consistency is a good thing, though.
Speaker 2: But I was taught that by David Brudnoy, who had
Speaker 2: me on in a regular rotation. But to combat that,
Speaker 2: I promise they have at least one guest a night
Speaker 2: side that I've never had before. Okay, And that's going
Speaker 2: to be the case tonight in the four shows next week.
Speaker 2: But you've got to hold me to that, Okay.
Speaker 3: If I if I see anything that looks amiss, I
Speaker 3: will be sure to let you know.
Speaker 2: And on that note, I will let you go away.
Speaker 3: When news people go off into the into the void
Speaker 3: where the newspeople go until where needed. Thank you, no problem,
Speaker 3: have a good show, Thank you very much.
Speaker 2: And Alan, how the heck are you?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 5: I'm well, how about you?
Speaker 2: All right? And this is not a slow news day.
Speaker 2: Over the past past twenty four hours, there have been
Speaker 2: some major news stories. And you know, I remember a
Speaker 2: statement made by Donald Trump, and this is prior to
Speaker 2: the Pennsylvania incident, but he said I will get Paul
Speaker 2: Wheeling back home within a month of me being elected.
Speaker 5: Sure he will. He can't say that anymore, No, he cannot.
Speaker 2: He cannot say that because go ahead.
Speaker 5: There are a lot of people out there in what
Speaker 5: I would call Trump World, because I think we have
Speaker 5: two different and two different worlds out there. There's a
Speaker 5: a normal world in the Trump world. Yes, And those
Speaker 5: people out there in Trump World were really uh, you know,
Speaker 5: they're kind of said, well, Joe Biden can't do this
Speaker 5: job anymore if you can't run, if you can't run
Speaker 5: for reelection, and we have to get him out that office,
Speaker 5: by God, because he can't do anything. Well, he just
Speaker 5: negotiated with seven different countries over an extended period of time. Yes,
Speaker 5: one of the greatest prisoner swaps in the past forty years.
Speaker 2: And you get you give credit where credit is due
Speaker 2: to have all those different countries, municipalities, heads of state,
Speaker 2: seven different countries were involved and freeing all of these people.
Speaker 2: Some of them were Russians, some of them were in
Speaker 2: Russian jails put thereby Putin and the rest of the poltariat.
Speaker 2: And the fact that Americans are held against their will
Speaker 2: anywhere on the planet but here in the United States
Speaker 2: is a sin. And it wasn't without his efforts. He
Speaker 2: being President Joe Biden, who get this accomplished.
Speaker 5: Shane on the same evening that he spoke to the nation,
Speaker 5: made the decision to pass the torch. He was working
Speaker 5: on this during that day, right that same day.
Speaker 2: And there are people out there. You can say negative
Speaker 2: things because as Americans that you're right say positive or
Speaker 2: negative things. But the proof is in the pudding, yep,
Speaker 2: what you see as a finished product. What was accomplished today.
Speaker 2: And I should have asked Nicole this. I'll ask Rob.
Speaker 2: The landing of the plane will be the eleven thirty tonight.
Speaker 2: I know that is a soft time, but we WBZ
Speaker 2: gonna carry that. I know there'll be a press conference
Speaker 2: right there at the airfield with the landing. Okay, Rob
Speaker 2: just whispered, he does not think that's happening. So forget that.
Speaker 2: But here's what I'm doing tonight here on Nightside, what
Speaker 2: I have planned to do and I'm still going to do.
Speaker 2: I'm going to ask you, the Night Side listeners, to
Speaker 2: call in six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty
Speaker 2: or eight eight, eight, nine to nine, ten thirty. Call
Speaker 2: in and tell me in the twenty first century, from
Speaker 2: the year two thousand to now, roughly that twenty four
Speaker 2: year period, if at one point you were a member
Speaker 2: of ex party Republican or Democrat or independent, and you
Speaker 2: have changed your affiliation, I want you to call and
Speaker 2: tell me why.
Speaker 4: So.
Speaker 2: You were a Democrat and you've decided I don't want
Speaker 2: to be a Democrat anymore. I want to be a Republican.
Speaker 2: You were a Republican and you decided I don't want
Speaker 2: to be Republican anymore. I want to be an independent.
Speaker 2: However your change occurred, call in and tell Allan and
Speaker 2: I what you personally did to make that change. Separate
Speaker 2: of that, how do you feel knowing that the people
Speaker 2: who were in a Russian jail, a Russian penitentiary, wherever
Speaker 2: they kept you, you're now getting a chance to finally
Speaker 2: get your feet back on American soil. That's the news
Speaker 2: story of the day. If you want to call in,
Speaker 2: you know the phone numbers, and we'll do this up
Speaker 2: until nine o'clock. Nine o'clock. Have something else, something special
Speaker 2: planned for you, but let me take my break. Time
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Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: Nice Sight Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: There is off for the whole week, for the rest
Speaker 2: of this week, tonight and tomorrow and all next week.
Speaker 2: I will be here obviously for tonight. Gary Tangway will
Speaker 2: be here tomorrow, and I'll be here all next week Monday, Wednesday,
Speaker 2: Thursday and Friday, except for Tuesday. Of a prior commitment
Speaker 2: on Tuesday evening. Some of you know about that, and
Speaker 2: I do believe. No, I don't want I don't want
Speaker 2: to speculate. I know a name that was mentioned, but
Speaker 2: it's not confirmed. I'll know more on Monday who will
Speaker 2: be doing Tuesday's night side. But if you want to
Speaker 2: call in, a is a line open for you. Six one, seven, two, five, fourteen,
Speaker 2: thirty eight, eight, eight, nine to nine, ten, thirty. Let's
Speaker 2: go to Harol and speak to Michael. So, Michael, I
Speaker 2: put two questions out there, how are you good?
Speaker 6: Thanks for taking Michell?
Speaker 2: Yes, Michael.
Speaker 6: What I hope doesn't happen, but I think will happen,
Speaker 6: is that the situation will be made into a political statement.
Speaker 2: Guaranteed.
Speaker 4: Hello, are you?
Speaker 2: I said guaranteed? Yes.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Well that's that's where all our political leaders get it wrong.
Speaker 6: They should just be happy, gratify these people are back, yes,
Speaker 6: and simply not make it into a particle issue. I
Speaker 6: don't know, I haven't seen the latest nerves of the
Speaker 6: latest tweets, but I expect Donald Trump to say something
Speaker 6: like if it wasn't for me, if I hadn't done this,
Speaker 6: if it wasn't for me, if I hadn't done this,
Speaker 6: this wouldn't happen. And it's just the wrong way to go.
Speaker 6: And the same we'll go for democrats to not make
Speaker 6: it a political statement. That's what's just, you know, comming
Speaker 6: the country. It's haunting the national psychology, it's turning people
Speaker 6: against each other, and just be happy these people are back.
Speaker 6: It can held against their will on Trump up stooping
Speaker 6: charges of nonsense and the Russians used it for political gain.
Speaker 6: They wanted to get back their people. And there you
Speaker 6: have it. So let me know your thoughts about the
Speaker 6: political uh ramifications and how each political time and it's
Speaker 6: current leaders. I've got to try and take credit for
Speaker 6: this and intent they want to do it.
Speaker 2: Now, Michael, before we wave goodbye to you, have you
Speaker 2: changed your party affiliation over the past twenty four or
Speaker 2: so years.
Speaker 6: Well, I'd like to say to people, I quote Bill Lee,
Speaker 6: do you remember believe the left handle for the number number?
Speaker 5: Still?
Speaker 4: Bill?
Speaker 6: But you said I linded here once, I'm so fon
Speaker 6: of the left, I'm right, and I laughed. Well, I
Speaker 6: kind of take his philosophy. I'm so fond of the left.
Speaker 6: I'm right. So that's about all I can tell you. No,
Speaker 6: I haven't changed my political leanings. If anything, I think
Speaker 6: of myself as an ultra.
Speaker 5: Libertarian David Brednoy.
Speaker 6: So that's where I lived, an ultra libertarian world, all right,
Speaker 6: as well, we are living in the twilight zone in
Speaker 6: America these days politically, then it.
Speaker 2: Michael, thank you for making your call. All right again,
Speaker 2: if you want to call in, I'll repeat the question. Yes,
Speaker 2: you can talk about the release of hostages today from
Speaker 2: Russia as well. If you were into representing Party A whichever,
Speaker 2: and you've changed, you decided for whatever reason to turn
Speaker 2: your back on Party A and jump over to Party B.
Speaker 2: There are three choices, Republican, Democrat, or Independent. I want
Speaker 2: to know if you aligned yourself with one of those
Speaker 2: parties but you felt that for whatever reason, they were
Speaker 2: falling short and you decided to switch, give me a call,
Speaker 2: Give us a call. Alan Toles is here. And for
Speaker 2: those of you who fondly remember Jerry Williams, the dean
Speaker 2: of talk shows back in the day sixties, seventies, eighties,
Speaker 2: and nineties, give us a call here on night Side.
Speaker 2: Pete in Boston, thank you for holding your next on Nightside.
Speaker 2: Hello Pete, Oh Pete? All right, Well Pete call back?
Speaker 2: So Allan only because you knew Jerry Williams so well, Hm,
Speaker 2: what would you think Jerry's opinion of the hostage A
Speaker 2: being taken and be finally being released.
Speaker 5: Well, you know, I can't really speak for Jerry obviously,
Speaker 5: but having known him on the air and having watched
Speaker 5: this play out at another time, because when I first
Speaker 5: met and worked with Jerryott was in Philadelphia, and we
Speaker 5: had four hundred and thirty five hostages in Iran in
Speaker 5: eighty and every day the drum beat was we have
Speaker 5: to bring our people home, we have to bring our
Speaker 5: people home.
Speaker 2: And it took four days to accomplish that.
Speaker 5: That's true, and because at that time Jimmy Carter was
Speaker 5: unable to do that, Jerry's position was abc anybody but Carter.
Speaker 5: And so when he saw what the choices were, the
Speaker 5: choices were Ronald Reagan and an independence John Anderson. Yes,
Speaker 5: Jerry threw his support behind John Anderson. He just couldn't
Speaker 5: bring himself to come over to that Republican dark side,
Speaker 5: so to speak. And John Andrews, since the time was
Speaker 5: not it wasn't exactly a ross throw independent race. But
Speaker 5: John Anderson got a respectable number of of votes, a
Speaker 5: good percentage. And ron Reagan became the President of the
Speaker 5: United States and was probably one of the best presidents
Speaker 5: we've ever had.
Speaker 2: Surprised a lot of people when we found out. And again,
Speaker 2: hindsight is being a Monday morning quarterback looking back over
Speaker 2: Reagan's eight years. Yeah, there was that hiccup with the
Speaker 2: Iran contra issue, but he was a great, not good
Speaker 2: great president.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, and the world would be.
Speaker 2: A little bit different because he, by his actions as president,
Speaker 2: made Russia look inward and realized that the arms race
Speaker 2: was being lost to the United States, and we prevailed.
Speaker 2: We the United States prevailed because of Ronald Reagan.
Speaker 5: Absolutely. The other interesting thing about Reagan that I appreciated
Speaker 5: most was there were bipartisan efforts to get things done.
Speaker 5: Ronald Reagan famously would sit down with SIBONEO yes, over
Speaker 5: beer and say, let's work this out whatever this happened
Speaker 5: to be. And it wasn't my side against your side.
Speaker 5: It was what could we do? What can we do
Speaker 5: together that would help the American people? And I don't
Speaker 5: know if we're ever going to get back to.
Speaker 2: That, unfortunately, that is a long way away from being
Speaker 2: a reality again.
Speaker 5: But fast forward to where we are now. I want
Speaker 5: to be your caller. So if you're asking in the
Speaker 5: past twenty four years, what did you do well, I've
Speaker 5: lived in New Hampshire, so I've always been an independent. Okay,
Speaker 5: virtue of the fact that you can be and in
Speaker 5: each primary or in each election, you can change your
Speaker 5: affiliation back and forth to suit the way you want
Speaker 5: to vote. Well in certain Republican primaries, I wanted to vote,
Speaker 5: and in certain Democrat primaries I wanted to vote. So
Speaker 5: while I've always been the independent, I bounced back and
Speaker 5: forth quite a bit. And in my lifetime, I've voted
Speaker 5: for Ronald Reagan, I've voted for George W. Bush, i
Speaker 5: voted for Barack Obama twice. And then twenty sixteen came along. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and I'm not sure if you've ever seen a Toyota
Speaker 5: commercial that's on the air now with the young lady
Speaker 5: talking to the woman from Toyota, and the woman from
Speaker 5: Toyota says, well, you wouldn't just trust anyone to help
Speaker 5: you move, would you? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, not again.
Speaker 5: That's right, he says, no. You see the picture of
Speaker 5: the moving truck demolishing her stuff, and she says no,
Speaker 5: and so the other woman says, of course not and
Speaker 5: touch tones. She says not again, not again. Well, that's
Speaker 5: that's kind of where I am, or where I was
Speaker 5: in twenty sixteen. I was not a Hillary fan. I
Speaker 5: voted for Donald Trump. Twenty twenty as a year in
Speaker 5: my life, not because of my personal situation, but as
Speaker 5: a year in the life of an American was probably
Speaker 5: the hardest and most miserable year in recent American history. Yeah,
Speaker 5: And what we needed was what we needed was a leader.
Speaker 5: What we needed was somebody to be reassuring. Instead, we
Speaker 5: had somebody who politicized the problem, COVID with being the problem,
Speaker 5: and it was. It was just horrible, and so now
Speaker 5: not again. It's kind of where I.
Speaker 2: Am good analogy am. By the way, the voice you
Speaker 2: hear is Alan Toles, who is a producer for Jerry Williams.
Speaker 2: He and Steve Elfman, another producer for Jerry Williams, wrote
Speaker 2: a book called Burning Up the Air. The book is
Speaker 2: still out there. You can get your hands on it.
Speaker 2: It's a great read. I've got to take a break
Speaker 2: and when we come back, Pete and Newton, Susan and Worcester,
Speaker 2: and an open line is available for you here on Nightside,
Speaker 2: time and temperature eight thirty eighty eight degrees.
Speaker 1: You're on Night's Side with Dan Ray on w b Z,
Speaker 1: Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: I'm Morgan White, Junior. Dan is off for the week,
Speaker 2: all right. I'm assuming he'll be back on August twelfth,
Speaker 2: But I'm here tonight and I'll be here four of
Speaker 2: the five days next week. Tonight, I'm joined by Alan
Speaker 2: Toles' First Hour, and here and I are talking a
Speaker 2: couple of major points. One the news story of the
Speaker 2: day all the hostages that were released by Russia. And
Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken, it was a total of twenty
Speaker 2: twenty one different people. There were three or four names
Speaker 2: that were primary and they are being released. And I'm
Speaker 2: going to say Evan Vershkovich wonderful pronounce yes, wonderful about
Speaker 2: pronouncing names like that. And Paul Wheeland w l A n.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 5: But he's also an Irish citizens, citizen of Ireland.
Speaker 2: And I'm sure that means one of the politicals in
Speaker 2: Ireland had to be involved with ordinating the release.
Speaker 5: Correct, Actually reading about this, it was really the German
Speaker 5: chancellor who stepped up big time and allowed somebody who
Speaker 5: was actually an assassin to be released, which let everything
Speaker 5: else flow.
Speaker 2: The Russian assassin that we the United States have behind bars. Correct, Well,
Speaker 2: it got done, that's the important thing. Correct, it got done.
Speaker 2: And let's take a phone call. Let's go to Newton
Speaker 2: and speak to Pete. Pete, welcome to night Side.
Speaker 4: Yeah, good evening, gentlemen. It's great news that the hostages
Speaker 4: of the prisoners have been released. It's great news. But
Speaker 4: what I really wanted to ask you was, I'm listening
Speaker 4: to you guys talk about different presidents and so forth.
Speaker 4: Can I ask you both? What grade on the universal
Speaker 4: grading system would you give President than Biden for the
Speaker 4: job that he's done? Well, how would you grade him
Speaker 4: for the job that he's done? I know you're both.
Speaker 4: I think you're both anti Trump, if I'm not mistaken, but.
Speaker 5: Alan correct, Yep, Well, I am anti Trump and probably
Speaker 5: give Joe Biden. Well, it's a it's a it's a
Speaker 5: tough cause because I look at my four one K
Speaker 5: in my investments, and I don't see that he's been
Speaker 5: bad with the economy. I see that he's been a
Speaker 5: victim of the supply chain. I see that while spending
Speaker 5: causes some inflation, we're it's now getting back under control.
Speaker 5: And so relative to the economy, you know, I gotta
Speaker 5: I gotta give an eighty, maybe even in eighty five
Speaker 5: in terms of being a leader, in terms of being presidential,
Speaker 5: that is somebody who you want respond for making allies
Speaker 5: around the world feel good about the United States. I
Speaker 5: got to give him a ninety five. I mean, he
Speaker 5: strengthened to NATO in a way that I personally didn't
Speaker 5: think was possible. But given the war in Ukraine, given
Speaker 5: everything that's happening, he's actually helped strengthen our alliances there
Speaker 5: in other domestic matters. You know, I think he's done
Speaker 5: a good job, not a great job, but a good job,
Speaker 5: a better job than I would have suspected his opponent
Speaker 5: would have done had he had the opportunity to do
Speaker 5: it again, just by virtue of being the person that
Speaker 5: comes in there under great duress, with some portions of
Speaker 5: the country thinking that he shouldn't even be there because
Speaker 5: the election was stolen. He did a fabulous job in
Speaker 5: starting to do the things that's to ferry to help
Speaker 5: us position ourselves again in the world as a good nation.
Speaker 4: I will be asked you a question, what about Afghanisty
Speaker 4: and the way that we exited Afghanistian and you.
Speaker 5: Have man poorly. I think it costs lives. However, to
Speaker 5: be fair, and you have to be fair. That was
Speaker 5: that was a treaty in a sense that Trump negotiated
Speaker 5: prior to leaving that it would happen in that window,
Speaker 5: and so he had no choice but to say let's
Speaker 5: get out with no.
Speaker 4: With no go ahead, I'm sorry, I'm going to answer
Speaker 4: your question.
Speaker 2: I'll give you a one sentence answer.
Speaker 4: Okay, Alan certainly has put a spin on the question. Uh.
Speaker 4: I would give him a complete failure myself. I think
Speaker 4: he's been a failure as a president. The deficit now
Speaker 4: was in the twenty five trillion dollar range, and I
Speaker 4: personally think we sent him.
Speaker 5: Can you tell me who spent more money in a
Speaker 5: four year term? Donald Trump or Joe Biden?
Speaker 4: They both spent money.
Speaker 5: I don't have the fig Can you tell me who
Speaker 5: spent a lot more?
Speaker 4: I believe that the well Biden wants to forgive student
Speaker 4: loans and all this other stuff, and that's kind a
Speaker 4: good thing. Well, I pay for my kids to go
Speaker 4: to college. Why should somebody else go for free?
Speaker 2: You know, it's hard to argue in that point, but
Speaker 2: I feel that overall, taking the monkey off the back
Speaker 2: of people who were eighteen nineteen twenty twenty one signed
Speaker 2: up for thousands of dollars so they could go to Wieman,
Speaker 2: Mary or Harvard or usc Taking that monkey off their
Speaker 2: back that's been doing nothing but advertising and growing as
Speaker 2: a figure. I think it's a good thing me.
Speaker 5: Personally, let me tell you that generation to buy houses,
Speaker 5: it is a good thing.
Speaker 4: If you don't have the money to go to Boston University,
Speaker 4: then you go to a community college. Why should I
Speaker 4: pay full freight to somebody else? Get it from up them?
Speaker 4: And I personally think Biden has been a disgrace and
Speaker 4: embarrassment on the world stage. The way he presents himself,
Speaker 4: the way he expresses himself, He's an embarrassment.
Speaker 2: All right, well, Pete, I think this is where we
Speaker 2: say we agree to disagree. But you have plenty of
Speaker 2: time to make your point. And on that note, enjoy
Speaker 2: your upcoming weekend. And I'm moving into the next caller.
Speaker 2: Thank you for your call. Pete. There goes Pete. Here
Speaker 2: comes Susan. Susan, you're next, your outside, Hi.
Speaker 7: I just want to say, have people been under a
Speaker 7: rock for three and a half years. We were told
Speaker 7: Biden strong, he's brilliant, he's wonderful. They had to cover
Speaker 7: up from the media, Kamela Harris, the whole group had
Speaker 7: to work over time to cover up what he had.
Speaker 7: He's not even in charge. You don't even know he's alive.
Speaker 7: It's the people around him. I'm glad the hostages are
Speaker 7: here because what did they give up? Because when Democrats
Speaker 7: do this, they have to give up something like they
Speaker 7: get to I ran i Comeline. It's ridiculous. And another thing,
Speaker 7: I'm hearing all these people about Trump going to the
Speaker 7: Black Quarters and all this crap. I think he did good.
Speaker 7: What Republicans would blank would do what Trump did? He
Speaker 7: got in there. He knew it was a setup, just
Speaker 7: by the first question they all had to talking for him.
Speaker 7: Trump can't get a break and that assassination attempt. Just
Speaker 7: look at the evidence they're covering up. They're all in
Speaker 7: on it from the ciav FBI of the deep state.
Speaker 6: Was a set up.
Speaker 7: They knew, an inside job and I'm gonna stick to it.
Speaker 7: They run them dead, They're gonna try again. He's written
Speaker 7: from them. And then how they were treated? Right, all
Speaker 7: these talking what's the way he's cheated? Trump? Trying to
Speaker 7: get him in jail for what? All these bombs dodges.
Speaker 7: He should be in jail. Bum dirt bag family of.
Speaker 4: His vans too?
Speaker 5: Do you like him? I love them? Answer?
Speaker 7: I ask you a question about Camilla her she had
Speaker 7: Wallas poll numbers. No one liked her, But all of
Speaker 7: a sudden, she's a and a skirt. Give me a break, it's.
Speaker 1: All yeah, yeah, I know you are old tag.
Speaker 7: She's an old pag and she's trying to be the
Speaker 7: top woman.
Speaker 5: Hey, you know what like career Tucker.
Speaker 7: Cuffin commnding, you wouldn't she being afraid of Tucker Dolson?
Speaker 5: But do you think that Trump is going to debate her?
Speaker 5: Do you think so? I'm kind of curious. Do you
Speaker 5: think he's gonna come out and debater and Peter and
Speaker 5: just really crush her?
Speaker 7: Is she the president yet?
Speaker 2: No, but she's running for the office.
Speaker 7: And yeah it's not cool she was installed.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, all right, but but Susan, that's not
Speaker 2: the question. Every four years we have a debate between
Speaker 2: the Republican and the Democrat who wants to live at
Speaker 2: sixteen hundred Pennsylvania Avenue?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 2: Are we not going to do it this year? Because
Speaker 2: Donald Trump doesn't want to debate her.
Speaker 7: He's going to debate if he can go into that
Speaker 7: jungle room, he can go anywhere. No other Republicans.
Speaker 5: What kind of jungle are you talking about?
Speaker 7: Alrighty, Jule, Okay, with all these rating awards in the
Speaker 7: press against Trump.
Speaker 2: It was a up Okay, all right, Susan, you're not
Speaker 2: repeating yourself. You've gotten your point.
Speaker 7: Across I know is a bony briudse. She swapped away
Speaker 7: to the top with Lily Brown. That's how she could
Speaker 7: always gig say.
Speaker 5: I'd like to do that, Susan.
Speaker 2: Who have a pleasant evening. Good night to you, Susan,
Speaker 2: Thank you, Oh dear, I'm gonna love your break. I'm
Speaker 2: going to try to get our last two callers on
Speaker 2: after the break, So David in San Francisco and Aaron
Speaker 2: and Wooster, you'll get your chance to chat about all
Speaker 2: these things. It's funny how neither one of those subjects
Speaker 2: fit into white. Susan called in.
Speaker 4: Of course not.
Speaker 2: I've been doing talk radio for just too many years. Anyway,
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Speaker 2: We have three people on hold. When do the best
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Speaker 2: with David in San Francisco. Good evening, David, webon nights
Speaker 2: dit Hello.
Speaker 8: Old friend, Oh Morgan, long time I was talked to. Yeah,
Speaker 8: I didn't know since uh, nineteen sixty seven, and mostly
Speaker 8: have voted for Democrats, okay, because I did not like
Speaker 8: the Republican big business party. But all right, in two
Speaker 8: thousand and two thousand and four, I didnt vote for
Speaker 8: Ralph Nader, Okay, I guess Al Gore and George W. Bush,
Speaker 8: but uh, for the most part, yeah, uh. And a
Speaker 8: couple of things here, Morgan, I'm going to thank you
Speaker 8: for sharing up Pittball trivia of the Pitball Wizard. Tommy's
Speaker 8: last day was Walker. Yeah, that's that's my last day.
Speaker 2: Oh okay.
Speaker 8: Yeah. Also a quick question is, then, are hostage crisis
Speaker 8: do you remember what day three hundred and sixty five was.
Speaker 2: I'm going to guess because it took four hundred and
Speaker 2: forty four days, that figures locked in my mind. But
Speaker 2: I'm going to guess three sixty five was the attempt
Speaker 2: by Jimmy Carter.
Speaker 8: To exactly that's the day Allay was elected?
Speaker 2: Right yep?
Speaker 8: Yeah? Is that weird to tell?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 8: They might have had a foresight of the election day
Speaker 8: the year before.
Speaker 2: And they did not weird and they did not want
Speaker 2: to release the hostages until Yeah, the election took right
Speaker 2: the election one, but the exchange of power always takes
Speaker 2: place the third of January. And I want to make
Speaker 2: sure that when the hostages were released, Jimmy Carter was
Speaker 2: out of office. Yeah.
Speaker 8: Well, you know what I heard that a rescue mission
Speaker 8: in the desert was a zaga fail.
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, it's like the Bay of
Speaker 2: Pigs in nineteen sixty or sixty one.
Speaker 8: Yeah, there you go, the best way of plans.
Speaker 2: So what do you have to say about the hostages
Speaker 2: that were finally released from Russia today?
Speaker 8: I think it's great. And whoever put that together was
Speaker 8: it should be saluted.
Speaker 2: I think it was a collaboration of a lot of
Speaker 2: fingers in the pie. Yeah.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's a big global political mooove. We'll ever put
Speaker 8: that together?
Speaker 6: Was?
Speaker 8: It has to be uh commented highly? All right, Warrian.
Speaker 8: I want to think you were taking.
Speaker 2: My call, David, and when I think you been making it.
Speaker 8: How about trivia question?
Speaker 2: Okay, who's the only person presidential question?
Speaker 4: Just for you?
Speaker 2: The only person who was president of the United States
Speaker 2: but never elected? On the news? Very good?
Speaker 8: Who is the only president that was a licensed park center?
Speaker 2: Oh? Man, I'll say Truman.
Speaker 8: I've heard of before. Actually was Abraham Lincoln.
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, he did everything. Adam Lawyer wrestler, he did everything,
Speaker 2: all right, David, Let me get the other people on.
Speaker 2: Thank you, go go go.
Speaker 8: Thank you borgon for taking a call.
Speaker 2: You're very welcome back by. Let's go to Aaron and Worcester. Aaron,
Speaker 2: you're next on night Side. Welcome aboard, Hi, thank you
Speaker 2: for having me on.
Speaker 9: Yes, sir, I noticed that one of the previous callers
Speaker 9: asked you what you thought about Biden's performance. You said
Speaker 9: he did well on the economy.
Speaker 2: If I'm not mistaken, gave specifically that. I just said
Speaker 2: a one sentence answer. I'll give him a bright.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 9: Allen said that he was doing well in the economy
Speaker 9: because of what he saw in his four oh one
Speaker 9: k and in his investments. What about the people who
Speaker 9: don't have four oh one ks and investments, who are
Speaker 9: struggling to pay their rent every month, who can't afford
Speaker 9: health care in the richest country on earth, And the
Speaker 9: fact that this has been happening under Biden, under Obama,
Speaker 9: under Trump and under Bush and all these presidents say
Speaker 9: that they're going to help poor people, but they really
Speaker 9: turn around and don't do anything for them.
Speaker 5: That's truth.
Speaker 9: What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 5: I can't argue here. I think that America is only
Speaker 5: as strong as its tweakest link, and I think we
Speaker 5: fail in trying to help folks at that level that
Speaker 5: need that kind of help.
Speaker 2: And of the fourth presidents you named, two were Republicans
Speaker 2: and two were Democrat, So.
Speaker 5: Right, if you think about it, though, right, Donald Trump
Speaker 5: gave a nice, big fat tax break to people on
Speaker 5: the upper end with little or no regard people at
Speaker 5: the bottom. Barack Obama gave us some well they'd like
Speaker 5: to call it Obamacare, the Affordable Care Act, which was
Speaker 5: one of the great things that happened over the past
Speaker 5: twenty years or so. So you know, some things could happen,
Speaker 5: not many, not many, and I wish.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I agree with you, there weren't enough things, right.
Speaker 9: You also said that Biden did a good job. You
Speaker 9: also said that Biden did a good job because he
Speaker 9: strengthened our alliances. What about strengthening our relationships with our
Speaker 9: enemies like Russia and China so we don't have World
Speaker 9: War three? What do you think about that? In my
Speaker 9: regard that it seems like he made the situation worse.
Speaker 9: Instead of working to actually cut a deal in Ukraine
Speaker 9: so more Ukrainians don't have to get killed, instead he
Speaker 9: keeps on giving him more and more money, whatever the
Speaker 9: heck that they ask for. We have a president who
Speaker 9: is not who is not engaging properly with the two
Speaker 9: other major world powers, Russia and China. He is putting
Speaker 9: us more on edge with them. Look at what he's
Speaker 9: doing to TikTok.
Speaker 5: Look at what he.
Speaker 9: Did with this war in Ukraine. We interviewed in Ukraine
Speaker 9: ten years ago with Yanikovich was overthrown in the Maidan
Speaker 9: and if you actually look at the state with the
Speaker 9: State Department had to say about that, there was a
Speaker 9: secret phone call between Victoria and Newlands and one of
Speaker 9: the other members of the State Department that sought to
Speaker 9: think about who they were going to replace when Yanikovich
Speaker 9: was overthrown in a democratically elected election ten years ago.
Speaker 9: Because we have to stick our business and absolutely everything
Speaker 9: and everything has to be a competition, whether than everye
Speaker 9: of us all working together.
Speaker 2: Obviously, you are well educated and you've got your facts
Speaker 2: and you've got a chance to share them with thirty
Speaker 2: eight states. I want to say goodbye to you, to
Speaker 2: give one more call or a chance to do what
Speaker 2: you just did. So Aaron, thank you, Alex and Natick
Speaker 2: you got about a minute best I can do.
Speaker 5: Gentlemen, thank you for having me. I really appreciate the
Speaker 5: chance just to chime in. You know, I don't have
Speaker 5: a question so much as a comment. And then just
Speaker 5: maybe you want to maybe get your guys's thought, you
Speaker 5: know about that.
Speaker 2: Oh great, he's got phone in trouble, Alex, can you
Speaker 2: hear me say it again?
Speaker 5: We can't? All right, So you know, comments like Susan's
Speaker 5: coming in onto your show, referring to a room full
Speaker 5: of black reporters as as in the jungle, a jungle jungle. Yeah,
Speaker 5: you know, I just I don't get it wrong. Sometimes
Speaker 5: I'm frightened about where we're going and whatnot. But but
Speaker 5: what's your take on on folks like that that are?
Speaker 5: You know, they're on both sides of the.
Speaker 2: Aisle, and you know what so far, Alex, let me
Speaker 2: answer you a question because I've got to let you go.
Speaker 2: You're not going to change their minds. It's like it's
Speaker 2: like Donald Trump when he said Vice President Harris's part
Speaker 2: Indian as far as he's concerned. When they open their
Speaker 2: mouth and insert their moccasins, what they say tells you
Speaker 2: all you need to know. For me to tell Susan
Speaker 2: that's just an incorrect statement on your part, it won't
Speaker 2: do any good. And Alan, I want to give you
Speaker 2: time fifteen seconds. Plug the book, go well.
Speaker 5: I wrote a book with my friend Steve Ellman called
Speaker 5: Burning Up the Air. Terry Williams and I knew each
Speaker 5: other for a good long time. Steve knew Jerry very
Speaker 5: well as well, and we wrote what was the definitive biography.
Speaker 5: So if you remember Jerry, you want to learn about him,
Speaker 5: want to know about him, find Burning Up the Air.
Speaker 2: Alan Toles, thank you very much, everybody, Next Hour. Former
Speaker 2: TV personality Aaron Murphy from Bewitched here on night Side