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<v Speaker 1>It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZY, Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Nicole, thank you for your very kind introduction. Yep, I'm here.

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<v Speaker 2>You know me. Morgan White Junior. Been a part of

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<v Speaker 2>BZ since Good Grief nineteen ninety five or ninety six,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've put together I think a strong night side

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<v Speaker 2>show for this August first and NICOLEI you is still there?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh oh good, Nicole. I would like to introduce you

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<v Speaker 2>to a gentleman.

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<v Speaker 3>All okay, Joys a live radio huh okay, there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>I would like to introduce you to a gentleman who's

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<v Speaker 2>been a friend of mine for decades. He has written

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<v Speaker 2>a book about the dean of talk hosts, Jerry Williams.

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<v Speaker 2>We all know that name, remember that name, and the

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<v Speaker 2>book was called Burning Up the Air with Steve Elfman.

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<v Speaker 2>They wrote it together, and he is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>my guest for the first hour. So Alan, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to introduce you to Nicole. And Nicole. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>introduce you to Alan. How are you?

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<v Speaker 3>You know better now that I get to meet you,

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<v Speaker 3>And thank you so much for the introduction. Morgan.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh nice, see you, Ca and Nicole. I'm looking forward

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<v Speaker 2>to working with you obviously now, but I'll be back

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<v Speaker 2>on Monday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, We're going to have fun. I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>We are going to do the best we can. And

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<v Speaker 2>I've got a lot of interesting guests slated to be

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<v Speaker 2>on with me. And I'm going to make a promise,

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<v Speaker 2>and Nicole, you and Rob have to hold me to this.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'm looking at Rob. We're going to do this,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, what's up?

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<v Speaker 2>People have said, with some consistency that I have the

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<v Speaker 2>same old guests on. I've had allan on a number

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<v Speaker 2>of times over the years.

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<v Speaker 3>Consistency is a good thing, though.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was taught that by David Brudnoy, who had

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<v Speaker 2>me on in a regular rotation. But to combat that,

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<v Speaker 2>I promise they have at least one guest a night

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<v Speaker 2>side that I've never had before. Okay, And that's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be the case tonight in the four shows next week.

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<v Speaker 2>But you've got to hold me to that, Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>If I if I see anything that looks amiss, I

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<v Speaker 3>will be sure to let you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And on that note, I will let you go away.

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<v Speaker 3>When news people go off into the into the void

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<v Speaker 3>where the newspeople go until where needed. Thank you, no problem,

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<v Speaker 3>have a good show, Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 2>And Alan, how the heck are you?

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<v Speaker 4>Well?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm well, how about you?

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<v Speaker 2>All right? And this is not a slow news day.

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<v Speaker 2>Over the past past twenty four hours, there have been

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<v Speaker 2>some major news stories. And you know, I remember a

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<v Speaker 2>statement made by Donald Trump, and this is prior to

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<v Speaker 2>the Pennsylvania incident, but he said I will get Paul

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<v Speaker 2>Wheeling back home within a month of me being elected.

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<v Speaker 5>Sure he will. He can't say that anymore, No, he cannot.

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<v Speaker 2>He cannot say that because go ahead.

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<v Speaker 5>There are a lot of people out there in what

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<v Speaker 5>I would call Trump World, because I think we have

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<v Speaker 5>two different and two different worlds out there. There's a

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<v Speaker 5>a normal world in the Trump world. Yes, And those

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<v Speaker 5>people out there in Trump World were really uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>they're kind of said, well, Joe Biden can't do this

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<v Speaker 5>job anymore if you can't run, if you can't run

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<v Speaker 5>for reelection, and we have to get him out that office,

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<v Speaker 5>by God, because he can't do anything. Well, he just

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<v Speaker 5>negotiated with seven different countries over an extended period of time. Yes,

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<v Speaker 5>one of the greatest prisoner swaps in the past forty years.

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<v Speaker 2>And you get you give credit where credit is due

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<v Speaker 2>to have all those different countries, municipalities, heads of state,

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<v Speaker 2>seven different countries were involved and freeing all of these people.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of them were Russians, some of them were in

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<v Speaker 2>Russian jails put thereby Putin and the rest of the poltariat.

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<v Speaker 2>And the fact that Americans are held against their will

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<v Speaker 2>anywhere on the planet but here in the United States

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<v Speaker 2>is a sin. And it wasn't without his efforts. He

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<v Speaker 2>being President Joe Biden, who get this accomplished.

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<v Speaker 5>Shane on the same evening that he spoke to the nation,

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<v Speaker 5>made the decision to pass the torch. He was working

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<v Speaker 5>on this during that day, right that same day.

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<v Speaker 2>And there are people out there. You can say negative

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<v Speaker 2>things because as Americans that you're right say positive or

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<v Speaker 2>negative things. But the proof is in the pudding, yep,

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<v Speaker 2>what you see as a finished product. What was accomplished today.

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<v Speaker 2>And I should have asked Nicole this. I'll ask Rob.

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<v Speaker 2>The landing of the plane will be the eleven thirty tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that is a soft time, but we WBZ

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<v Speaker 2>gonna carry that. I know there'll be a press conference

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<v Speaker 2>right there at the airfield with the landing. Okay, Rob

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<v Speaker 2>just whispered, he does not think that's happening. So forget that.

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<v Speaker 2>But here's what I'm doing tonight here on Nightside, what

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<v Speaker 2>I have planned to do and I'm still going to do.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to ask you, the Night Side listeners, to

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<v Speaker 2>call in six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty

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<v Speaker 2>or eight eight, eight, nine to nine, ten thirty. Call

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<v Speaker 2>in and tell me in the twenty first century, from

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<v Speaker 2>the year two thousand to now, roughly that twenty four

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<v Speaker 2>year period, if at one point you were a member

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<v Speaker 2>of ex party Republican or Democrat or independent, and you

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<v Speaker 2>have changed your affiliation, I want you to call and

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<v Speaker 2>tell me why.

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<v Speaker 4>So.

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<v Speaker 2>You were a Democrat and you've decided I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to be a Democrat anymore. I want to be a Republican.

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<v Speaker 2>You were a Republican and you decided I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to be Republican anymore. I want to be an independent.

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<v Speaker 2>However your change occurred, call in and tell Allan and

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<v Speaker 2>I what you personally did to make that change. Separate

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<v Speaker 2>of that, how do you feel knowing that the people

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<v Speaker 2>who were in a Russian jail, a Russian penitentiary, wherever

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<v Speaker 2>they kept you, you're now getting a chance to finally

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<v Speaker 2>get your feet back on American soil. That's the news

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<v Speaker 2>story of the day. If you want to call in,

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<v Speaker 2>you know the phone numbers, and we'll do this up

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<v Speaker 2>until nine o'clock. Nine o'clock. Have something else, something special

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<v Speaker 2>planned for you, but let me take my break. Time

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<v Speaker 2>and temperature here on WBZ eight fifteen eighty eight degrees.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>Nice Sight Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>There is off for the whole week, for the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of this week, tonight and tomorrow and all next week.

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<v Speaker 2>I will be here obviously for tonight. Gary Tangway will

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<v Speaker 2>be here tomorrow, and I'll be here all next week Monday, Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 2>Thursday and Friday, except for Tuesday. Of a prior commitment

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<v Speaker 2>on Tuesday evening. Some of you know about that, and

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<v Speaker 2>I do believe. No, I don't want I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to speculate. I know a name that was mentioned, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's not confirmed. I'll know more on Monday who will

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<v Speaker 2>be doing Tuesday's night side. But if you want to

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<v Speaker 2>call in, a is a line open for you. Six one, seven, two, five, fourteen,

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<v Speaker 2>thirty eight, eight, eight, nine to nine, ten, thirty. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>go to Harol and speak to Michael. So, Michael, I

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<v Speaker 2>put two questions out there, how are you good?

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<v Speaker 6>Thanks for taking Michell?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Michael.

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<v Speaker 6>What I hope doesn't happen, but I think will happen,

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<v Speaker 6>is that the situation will be made into a political statement.

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<v Speaker 2>Guaranteed.

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<v Speaker 4>Hello, are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I said guaranteed? Yes.

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<v Speaker 6>Well that's that's where all our political leaders get it wrong.

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<v Speaker 6>They should just be happy, gratify these people are back, yes,

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<v Speaker 6>and simply not make it into a particle issue. I

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<v Speaker 6>don't know, I haven't seen the latest nerves of the

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<v Speaker 6>latest tweets, but I expect Donald Trump to say something

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<v Speaker 6>like if it wasn't for me, if I hadn't done this,

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<v Speaker 6>if it wasn't for me, if I hadn't done this,

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<v Speaker 6>this wouldn't happen. And it's just the wrong way to go.

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<v Speaker 6>And the same we'll go for democrats to not make

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<v Speaker 6>it a political statement. That's what's just, you know, comming

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<v Speaker 6>the country. It's haunting the national psychology, it's turning people

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<v Speaker 6>against each other, and just be happy these people are back.

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<v Speaker 6>It can held against their will on Trump up stooping

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<v Speaker 6>charges of nonsense and the Russians used it for political gain.

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<v Speaker 6>They wanted to get back their people. And there you

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<v Speaker 6>have it. So let me know your thoughts about the

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<v Speaker 6>political uh ramifications and how each political time and it's

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<v Speaker 6>current leaders. I've got to try and take credit for

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<v Speaker 6>this and intent they want to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, Michael, before we wave goodbye to you, have you

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<v Speaker 2>changed your party affiliation over the past twenty four or

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I'd like to say to people, I quote Bill Lee,

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<v Speaker 6>do you remember believe the left handle for the number number?

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<v Speaker 5>Still?

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<v Speaker 4>Bill?

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<v Speaker 6>But you said I linded here once, I'm so fon

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<v Speaker 6>of the left, I'm right, and I laughed. Well, I

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<v Speaker 6>kind of take his philosophy. I'm so fond of the left.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm right. So that's about all I can tell you. No,

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<v Speaker 6>I haven't changed my political leanings. If anything, I think

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<v Speaker 6>of myself as an ultra.

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<v Speaker 5>Libertarian David Brednoy.

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<v Speaker 6>So that's where I lived, an ultra libertarian world, all right,

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<v Speaker 6>as well, we are living in the twilight zone in

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<v Speaker 6>America these days politically, then it.

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<v Speaker 2>Michael, thank you for making your call. All right again,

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to call in, I'll repeat the question. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>you can talk about the release of hostages today from

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<v Speaker 2>Russia as well. If you were into representing Party A whichever,

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<v Speaker 2>and you've changed, you decided for whatever reason to turn

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<v Speaker 2>your back on Party A and jump over to Party B.

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<v Speaker 2>There are three choices, Republican, Democrat, or Independent. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to know if you aligned yourself with one of those

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<v Speaker 2>parties but you felt that for whatever reason, they were

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<v Speaker 2>falling short and you decided to switch, give me a call,

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<v Speaker 2>Give us a call. Alan Toles is here. And for

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<v Speaker 2>those of you who fondly remember Jerry Williams, the dean

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<v Speaker 2>of talk shows back in the day sixties, seventies, eighties,

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<v Speaker 2>and nineties, give us a call here on night Side.

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<v Speaker 2>Pete in Boston, thank you for holding your next on Nightside.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello Pete, Oh Pete? All right, Well Pete call back?

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<v Speaker 2>So Allan only because you knew Jerry Williams so well, Hm,

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<v Speaker 2>what would you think Jerry's opinion of the hostage A

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<v Speaker 2>being taken and be finally being released.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, you know, I can't really speak for Jerry obviously,

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<v Speaker 5>but having known him on the air and having watched

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<v Speaker 5>this play out at another time, because when I first

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<v Speaker 5>met and worked with Jerryott was in Philadelphia, and we

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<v Speaker 5>had four hundred and thirty five hostages in Iran in

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<v Speaker 5>eighty and every day the drum beat was we have

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<v Speaker 5>to bring our people home, we have to bring our

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<v Speaker 2>And it took four days to accomplish that.

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<v Speaker 5>That's true, and because at that time Jimmy Carter was

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<v Speaker 5>unable to do that, Jerry's position was abc anybody but Carter.

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<v Speaker 5>And so when he saw what the choices were, the

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<v Speaker 5>choices were Ronald Reagan and an independence John Anderson. Yes,

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<v Speaker 5>Jerry threw his support behind John Anderson. He just couldn't

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<v Speaker 5>John Anderson got a respectable number of of votes, a

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<v Speaker 2>Surprised a lot of people when we found out. And again,

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<v Speaker 2>Reagan's eight years. Yeah, there was that hiccup with the

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely, and the world would be.

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<v Speaker 2>A little bit different because he, by his actions as president,

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<v Speaker 2>That, unfortunately, that is a long way away from being

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<v Speaker 5>But fast forward to where we are now. I want

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<v Speaker 5>virtue of the fact that you can be and in

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<v Speaker 5>forth quite a bit. And in my lifetime, I've voted

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<v Speaker 5>voted for Barack Obama twice. And then twenty sixteen came along. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>and I'm not sure if you've ever seen a Toyota

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, not again.

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<v Speaker 5>that's kind of where I am, or where I was

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<v Speaker 5>voted for Donald Trump. Twenty twenty as a year in

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<v Speaker 5>my life, not because of my personal situation, but as

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<v Speaker 5>the hardest and most miserable year in recent American history. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>And what we needed was what we needed was a leader.

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<v Speaker 5>What we needed was somebody to be reassuring. Instead, we

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<v Speaker 2>Am good analogy am. By the way, the voice you

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<v Speaker 2>hear is Alan Toles, who is a producer for Jerry Williams.

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<v Speaker 2>He and Steve Elfman, another producer for Jerry Williams, wrote

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<v Speaker 2>a book called Burning Up the Air. The book is

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<v Speaker 2>It's a great read. I've got to take a break

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<v Speaker 2>and when we come back, Pete and Newton, Susan and Worcester,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Morgan White, Junior. Dan is off for the week,

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<v Speaker 2>all right. I'm assuming he'll be back on August twelfth,

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm here tonight and I'll be here four of

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<v Speaker 2>the five days next week. Tonight, I'm joined by Alan

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<v Speaker 2>Toles' First Hour, and here and I are talking a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of major points. One the news story of the

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<v Speaker 2>day all the hostages that were released by Russia. And

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm not mistaken, it was a total of twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty one different people. There were three or four names

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<v Speaker 2>that were primary and they are being released. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to say Evan Vershkovich wonderful pronounce yes, wonderful about

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<v Speaker 4>Yep.

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<v Speaker 5>But he's also an Irish citizens, citizen of Ireland.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm sure that means one of the politicals in

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<v Speaker 2>Ireland had to be involved with ordinating the release.

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<v Speaker 5>Correct, Actually reading about this, it was really the German

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<v Speaker 5>chancellor who stepped up big time and allowed somebody who

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<v Speaker 5>was actually an assassin to be released, which let everything

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<v Speaker 5>else flow.

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<v Speaker 2>The Russian assassin that we the United States have behind bars. Correct, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>it got done, that's the important thing. Correct, it got done.

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<v Speaker 2>And let's take a phone call. Let's go to Newton

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<v Speaker 2>and speak to Pete. Pete, welcome to night Side.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, good evening, gentlemen. It's great news that the hostages

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<v Speaker 4>of the prisoners have been released. It's great news. But

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<v Speaker 4>what I really wanted to ask you was, I'm listening

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<v Speaker 4>to you guys talk about different presidents and so forth.

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<v Speaker 4>Can I ask you both? What grade on the universal

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<v Speaker 4>grading system would you give President than Biden for the

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<v Speaker 4>job that he's done? Well, how would you grade him

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<v Speaker 4>for the job that he's done? I know you're both.

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<v Speaker 4>I think you're both anti Trump, if I'm not mistaken, but.

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<v Speaker 5>Alan correct, Yep, Well, I am anti Trump and probably

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<v Speaker 5>give Joe Biden. Well, it's a it's a it's a

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<v Speaker 5>tough cause because I look at my four one K

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<v Speaker 5>causes some inflation, we're it's now getting back under control.

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<v Speaker 5>And so relative to the economy, you know, I gotta

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<v Speaker 5>I gotta give an eighty, maybe even in eighty five

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<v Speaker 5>in terms of being a leader, in terms of being presidential,

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<v Speaker 5>that is somebody who you want respond for making allies

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<v Speaker 5>around the world feel good about the United States. I

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<v Speaker 5>got to give him a ninety five. I mean, he

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<v Speaker 5>strengthened to NATO in a way that I personally didn't

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<v Speaker 5>think was possible. But given the war in Ukraine, given

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<v Speaker 5>everything that's happening, he's actually helped strengthen our alliances there

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<v Speaker 5>in other domestic matters. You know, I think he's done

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<v Speaker 5>a better job than I would have suspected his opponent

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<v Speaker 5>it again, just by virtue of being the person that

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<v Speaker 5>the country thinking that he shouldn't even be there because

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<v Speaker 5>the election was stolen. He did a fabulous job in

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<v Speaker 5>starting to do the things that's to ferry to help

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<v Speaker 4>I will be asked you a question, what about Afghanisty

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<v Speaker 4>and the way that we exited Afghanistian and you.

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<v Speaker 5>Have man poorly. I think it costs lives. However, to

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<v Speaker 5>be fair, and you have to be fair. That was

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<v Speaker 5>that was a treaty in a sense that Trump negotiated

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<v Speaker 5>prior to leaving that it would happen in that window,

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<v Speaker 5>and so he had no choice but to say let's

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<v Speaker 4>With no go ahead, I'm sorry, I'm going to answer

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Alan certainly has put a spin on the question. Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>I would give him a complete failure myself. I think

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<v Speaker 4>he's been a failure as a president. The deficit now

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<v Speaker 4>was in the twenty five trillion dollar range, and I

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<v Speaker 5>Can you tell me who spent more money in a

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<v Speaker 5>four year term? Donald Trump or Joe Biden?

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<v Speaker 4>They both spent money.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't have the fig Can you tell me who

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<v Speaker 4>I believe that the well Biden wants to forgive student

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<v Speaker 4>loans and all this other stuff, and that's kind a

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<v Speaker 4>good thing. Well, I pay for my kids to go

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's hard to argue in that point, but

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<v Speaker 2>I feel that overall, taking the monkey off the back

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<v Speaker 2>of people who were eighteen nineteen twenty twenty one signed

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<v Speaker 2>Mary or Harvard or usc Taking that monkey off their

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<v Speaker 2>back that's been doing nothing but advertising and growing as

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<v Speaker 5>Personally, let me tell you that generation to buy houses,

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<v Speaker 4>If you don't have the money to go to Boston University,

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<v Speaker 4>then you go to a community college. Why should I

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<v Speaker 4>pay full freight to somebody else? Get it from up them?

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<v Speaker 4>And I personally think Biden has been a disgrace and

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<v Speaker 4>embarrassment on the world stage. The way he presents himself,

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<v Speaker 2>All right, well, Pete, I think this is where we

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<v Speaker 2>say we agree to disagree. But you have plenty of

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<v Speaker 2>time to make your point. And on that note, enjoy

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<v Speaker 2>your upcoming weekend. And I'm moving into the next caller.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for your call. Pete. There goes Pete. Here

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<v Speaker 2>comes Susan. Susan, you're next, your outside, Hi.

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<v Speaker 7>I just want to say, have people been under a

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<v Speaker 7>to work over time to cover up what he had.

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<v Speaker 7>He's not even in charge. You don't even know he's alive.

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<v Speaker 7>It's the people around him. I'm glad the hostages are

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<v Speaker 7>here because what did they give up? Because when Democrats

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<v Speaker 7>do this, they have to give up something like they

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<v Speaker 7>get to I ran i Comeline. It's ridiculous. And another thing,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm hearing all these people about Trump going to the

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<v Speaker 7>Black Quarters and all this crap. I think he did good.

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<v Speaker 7>What Republicans would blank would do what Trump did? He

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<v Speaker 7>Trump can't get a break and that assassination attempt. Just

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<v Speaker 7>look at the evidence they're covering up. They're all in

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<v Speaker 7>on it from the ciav FBI of the deep state.

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<v Speaker 6>Was a set up.

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<v Speaker 7>They knew, an inside job and I'm gonna stick to it.

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<v Speaker 7>They run them dead, They're gonna try again. He's written

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<v Speaker 7>from them. And then how they were treated? Right, all

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<v Speaker 7>these talking what's the way he's cheated? Trump? Trying to

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<v Speaker 7>get him in jail for what? All these bombs dodges.

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<v Speaker 7>He should be in jail. Bum dirt bag family of.

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<v Speaker 4>His vans too?

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<v Speaker 5>Do you like him? I love them? Answer?

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<v Speaker 7>I ask you a question about Camilla her she had

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<v Speaker 7>Wallas poll numbers. No one liked her, But all of

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<v Speaker 7>a sudden, she's a and a skirt. Give me a break, it's.

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<v Speaker 7>She's an old pag and she's trying to be the

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<v Speaker 7>top woman.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, you know what like career Tucker.

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<v Speaker 7>Cuffin commnding, you wouldn't she being afraid of Tucker Dolson?

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<v Speaker 5>But do you think that Trump is going to debate her?

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<v Speaker 5>Do you think so? I'm kind of curious. Do you

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<v Speaker 5>think he's gonna come out and debater and Peter and

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<v Speaker 5>just really crush her?

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<v Speaker 7>Is she the president yet?

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<v Speaker 2>No, but she's running for the office.

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<v Speaker 7>And yeah it's not cool she was installed.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, all right, but but Susan, that's not

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<v Speaker 2>the question. Every four years we have a debate between

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<v Speaker 2>the Republican and the Democrat who wants to live at

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen hundred Pennsylvania Avenue?

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<v Speaker 5>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Are we not going to do it this year? Because

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump doesn't want to debate her.

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<v Speaker 7>He's going to debate if he can go into that

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<v Speaker 7>jungle room, he can go anywhere. No other Republicans.

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<v Speaker 5>What kind of jungle are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 7>Alrighty, Jule, Okay, with all these rating awards in the

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<v Speaker 7>press against Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a up Okay, all right, Susan, you're not

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<v Speaker 2>repeating yourself. You've gotten your point.

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<v Speaker 7>Across I know is a bony briudse. She swapped away

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<v Speaker 7>to the top with Lily Brown. That's how she could

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<v Speaker 7>always gig say.

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<v Speaker 5>I'd like to do that, Susan.

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<v Speaker 2>Who have a pleasant evening. Good night to you, Susan,

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Oh dear, I'm gonna love your break. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to try to get our last two callers on

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<v Speaker 2>after the break, So David in San Francisco and Aaron

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<v Speaker 2>and Wooster, you'll get your chance to chat about all

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<v Speaker 2>these things. It's funny how neither one of those subjects

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<v Speaker 2>fit into white. Susan called in.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course not.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been doing talk radio for just too many years. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>Time and temperature here eight forty six eighty eight degrees

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<v Speaker 2>of night side.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan ray Line from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>night Side Studios on w b Z Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>We have three people on hold. When do the best

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<v Speaker 2>I can to get all three of you in, beginning

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<v Speaker 2>with David in San Francisco. Good evening, David, webon nights

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<v Speaker 2>dit Hello.

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<v Speaker 8>Old friend, Oh Morgan, long time I was talked to. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>I didn't know since uh, nineteen sixty seven, and mostly

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<v Speaker 8>have voted for Democrats, okay, because I did not like

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<v Speaker 8>the Republican big business party. But all right, in two

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<v Speaker 8>thousand and two thousand and four, I didnt vote for

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<v Speaker 8>Ralph Nader, Okay, I guess Al Gore and George W. Bush,

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<v Speaker 8>but uh, for the most part, yeah, uh. And a

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<v Speaker 8>couple of things here, Morgan, I'm going to thank you

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<v Speaker 8>for sharing up Pittball trivia of the Pitball Wizard. Tommy's

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<v Speaker 8>last day was Walker. Yeah, that's that's my last day.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah. Also a quick question is, then, are hostage crisis

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<v Speaker 8>do you remember what day three hundred and sixty five was.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to guess because it took four hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>forty four days, that figures locked in my mind. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to guess three sixty five was the attempt

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<v Speaker 2>by Jimmy Carter.

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<v Speaker 8>To exactly that's the day Allay was elected?

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<v Speaker 2>Right yep?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah? Is that weird to tell?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh?

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<v Speaker 8>They might have had a foresight of the election day

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<v Speaker 8>the year before.

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<v Speaker 2>And they did not weird and they did not want

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<v Speaker 2>to release the hostages until Yeah, the election took right

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<v Speaker 2>the election one, but the exchange of power always takes

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<v Speaker 2>place the third of January. And I want to make

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<v Speaker 2>sure that when the hostages were released, Jimmy Carter was

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<v Speaker 2>out of office. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, you know what I heard that a rescue mission

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<v Speaker 8>in the desert was a zaga fail.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, you know, it's like the Bay of

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<v Speaker 2>Pigs in nineteen sixty or sixty one.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, there you go, the best way of plans.

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<v Speaker 2>So what do you have to say about the hostages

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<v Speaker 2>that were finally released from Russia today?

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<v Speaker 8>I think it's great. And whoever put that together was

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<v Speaker 8>it should be saluted.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was a collaboration of a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>fingers in the pie. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, that's a big global political mooove. We'll ever put

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<v Speaker 8>that together?

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<v Speaker 6>Was?

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<v Speaker 8>It has to be uh commented highly? All right, Warrian.

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<v Speaker 8>I want to think you were taking.

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<v Speaker 2>My call, David, and when I think you been making it.

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<v Speaker 8>How about trivia question?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, who's the only person presidential question?

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<v Speaker 4>Just for you?

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<v Speaker 2>The only person who was president of the United States

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<v Speaker 2>but never elected? On the news? Very good?

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<v Speaker 8>Who is the only president that was a licensed park center?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Man, I'll say Truman.

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<v Speaker 8>I've heard of before. Actually was Abraham Lincoln.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, okay, he did everything. Adam Lawyer wrestler, he did everything,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, David, Let me get the other people on.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, go go go.

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<v Speaker 8>Thank you borgon for taking a call.

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<v Speaker 2>You're very welcome back by. Let's go to Aaron and Worcester. Aaron,

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<v Speaker 2>you're next on night Side. Welcome aboard, Hi, thank you

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<v Speaker 2>for having me on.

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<v Speaker 9>Yes, sir, I noticed that one of the previous callers

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<v Speaker 9>asked you what you thought about Biden's performance. You said

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<v Speaker 9>he did well on the economy.

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<v Speaker 2>If I'm not mistaken, gave specifically that. I just said

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<v Speaker 2>a one sentence answer. I'll give him a bright.

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<v Speaker 5>Well.

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<v Speaker 9>Allen said that he was doing well in the economy

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<v Speaker 9>because of what he saw in his four oh one

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<v Speaker 9>k and in his investments. What about the people who

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<v Speaker 9>don't have four oh one ks and investments, who are

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<v Speaker 9>struggling to pay their rent every month, who can't afford

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<v Speaker 9>health care in the richest country on earth, And the

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<v Speaker 9>fact that this has been happening under Biden, under Obama,

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<v Speaker 9>under Trump and under Bush and all these presidents say

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<v Speaker 9>that they're going to help poor people, but they really

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<v Speaker 9>turn around and don't do anything for them.

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<v Speaker 5>That's truth.

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<v Speaker 9>What are your thoughts on that?

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<v Speaker 5>I can't argue here. I think that America is only

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<v Speaker 5>as strong as its tweakest link, and I think we

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<v Speaker 5>fail in trying to help folks at that level that

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<v Speaker 5>need that kind of help.

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<v Speaker 2>And of the fourth presidents you named, two were Republicans

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<v Speaker 2>and two were Democrat, So.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, if you think about it, though, right, Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 5>gave a nice, big fat tax break to people on

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<v Speaker 5>the upper end with little or no regard people at

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<v Speaker 5>the bottom. Barack Obama gave us some well they'd like

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<v Speaker 5>to call it Obamacare, the Affordable Care Act, which was

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<v Speaker 5>one of the great things that happened over the past

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<v Speaker 5>twenty years or so. So you know, some things could happen,

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<v Speaker 5>not many, not many, and I wish.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I agree with you, there weren't enough things, right.

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<v Speaker 9>You also said that Biden did a good job. You

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<v Speaker 9>also said that Biden did a good job because he

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<v Speaker 9>strengthened our alliances. What about strengthening our relationships with our

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<v Speaker 9>enemies like Russia and China so we don't have World

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<v Speaker 9>War three? What do you think about that? In my

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<v Speaker 9>regard that it seems like he made the situation worse.

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<v Speaker 9>Instead of working to actually cut a deal in Ukraine

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<v Speaker 9>so more Ukrainians don't have to get killed, instead he

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<v Speaker 9>keeps on giving him more and more money, whatever the

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<v Speaker 9>heck that they ask for. We have a president who

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<v Speaker 9>is not who is not engaging properly with the two

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<v Speaker 9>other major world powers, Russia and China. He is putting

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<v Speaker 9>us more on edge with them. Look at what he's

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<v Speaker 9>doing to TikTok.

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<v Speaker 5>Look at what he.

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<v Speaker 9>Did with this war in Ukraine. We interviewed in Ukraine

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<v Speaker 9>ten years ago with Yanikovich was overthrown in the Maidan

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<v Speaker 9>and if you actually look at the state with the

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<v Speaker 9>State Department had to say about that, there was a

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<v Speaker 9>secret phone call between Victoria and Newlands and one of

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<v Speaker 9>the other members of the State Department that sought to

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<v Speaker 9>think about who they were going to replace when Yanikovich

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<v Speaker 9>was overthrown in a democratically elected election ten years ago.

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<v Speaker 9>Because we have to stick our business and absolutely everything

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<v Speaker 9>and everything has to be a competition, whether than everye

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<v Speaker 9>of us all working together.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously, you are well educated and you've got your facts

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<v Speaker 2>and you've got a chance to share them with thirty

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<v Speaker 2>eight states. I want to say goodbye to you, to

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<v Speaker 2>give one more call or a chance to do what

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<v Speaker 2>you just did. So Aaron, thank you, Alex and Natick

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<v Speaker 2>you got about a minute best I can do.

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<v Speaker 5>Gentlemen, thank you for having me. I really appreciate the

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<v Speaker 5>chance just to chime in. You know, I don't have

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<v Speaker 5>a question so much as a comment. And then just

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<v Speaker 5>maybe you want to maybe get your guys's thought, you

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<v Speaker 5>know about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh great, he's got phone in trouble, Alex, can you

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<v Speaker 2>hear me say it again?

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<v Speaker 5>We can't? All right, So you know, comments like Susan's

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<v Speaker 5>coming in onto your show, referring to a room full

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<v Speaker 5>of black reporters as as in the jungle, a jungle jungle. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I just I don't get it wrong. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 5>I'm frightened about where we're going and whatnot. But but

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<v Speaker 5>what's your take on on folks like that that are?

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<v Speaker 5>You know, they're on both sides of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Aisle, and you know what so far, Alex, let me

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<v Speaker 2>answer you a question because I've got to let you go.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not going to change their minds. It's like it's

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<v Speaker 2>like Donald Trump when he said Vice President Harris's part

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<v Speaker 2>Indian as far as he's concerned. When they open their

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<v Speaker 2>mouth and insert their moccasins, what they say tells you

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<v Speaker 2>all you need to know. For me to tell Susan

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<v Speaker 2>that's just an incorrect statement on your part, it won't

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<v Speaker 2>do any good. And Alan, I want to give you

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<v Speaker 2>time fifteen seconds. Plug the book, go well.

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<v Speaker 5>I wrote a book with my friend Steve Ellman called

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<v Speaker 5>Burning Up the Air. Terry Williams and I knew each

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<v Speaker 5>other for a good long time. Steve knew Jerry very

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<v Speaker 5>well as well, and we wrote what was the definitive biography.

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<v Speaker 5>So if you remember Jerry, you want to learn about him,

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<v Speaker 5>want to know about him, find Burning Up the Air.

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<v Speaker 2>Alan Toles, thank you very much, everybody, Next Hour. Former

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<v Speaker 2>TV personality Aaron Murphy from Bewitched here on night Side